The Glenn Beck Program - NEGOTIATOR IN CHIEF: How Trump Got the Gaza Deal Done | Guests: Carol Roth & Daniel Keene | 10/9/25

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Did President Trump just pull off the impossible? Glenn and Stu discuss Trump’s success in bringing peace to the Middle East, as both Israel and Hamas have agreed to sign on to a peace deal that would initiate an immediate ceasefire and finally release hostages from October 7. Glenn argues that if Trump can find a way to fund all the essential government services, a majority of Americans will agree to cut the waste. A Texas business owner, Daniel Keene, is facing immense backlash after a comment he made regarding H-1B visas was interpreted as racist. Daniel clarifies his initial meaning, which led to his own church cutting ties with him. “You Will Own Nothing” author Carol Roth joins to expose the concerning reason the price of gold is skyrocketing. Glenn and Carol also discuss the AI bubble, which appears to be growing at an increasing rate, and how long the government can remain shut down before things start to collapse. Glenn and Stu further discuss Trump’s peace deal between Hamas and Israel, as both sides have announced they’ve officially signed an agreement. Glenn speaks with his daughter, Cheyenne Grace, to promote her upcoming Christmas film, “The Best Thing About Christmas.”  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's historically today. Now, the guy who's not going to get a Nobel Peace Prize, who actually earned one, Donald Trump, on that anniversary day, announces peace in the Middle East. Now, it's got a long way to go. but everyone involved is shocked at this. Thank you, Donald Trump. Hopefully it holds, but looks like the hostages are coming home on Monday.

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great day, man. It is. Seriously. Finally, some good news. Yeah, I know. I mean, it could go away tomorrow, but let's have faith. Can't go away tomorrow. The Blue Jays beat the Yankees. It's over. That series is over. No, we were talking about the peace in the Middle East. Wait, what happened? No, that's fantastic. What an incredible development. And who would have ever thought that you would have Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, and kind of Jordan, all in saying, we're with the United States and Israel,

we want peace here's how we get there and Hamas does it these are all things that could not have possibly existed very recently no and you know why I am convinced I mean I've talked to Donald Trump

about so many different things but the best example of this is he will not allow me to ask him a question about assassination in the future okay I've asked him are you concerned about

I don't even want to talk about it Don't talk about it. Don't talk about it. He calls into existence. He knows the power of thought. He knows the power of language. And he is, he never will call something into existence like that. Okay. You can believe him or not believe him, but he will not ever do that. He only tries to think positively about things. He's called this into existence where everybody else said, you know, State Department says, can't be. done, can't be done. Nobody wants to do this. That's too big of a, he doesn't care. He just walks in and he's like, hey, everybody, what do you say we change the game entirely? What is it going to take for all of you to recognize Israel? Israel, what is it going to take for you to stop? And Gaza, what is it going to take for you to return the hostages? Let's do that deal. I mean, it's just this big thinking where he doesn't say can't be done. He never says can't be done. And that's why he moves mountains. It's just the power of positive thinking. It's the power of your thoughts are creative. So be

careful. Choose your thoughts and change the world. And that's why he's able to cross these, you know, these lines that people just don't think things are possible. Even if, you know, we don't know how this is going to turn out. No. There's a line to be. clear. There's a million things that can go wrong with this piece. Scriptures tell us, not going to last. Right. You know what I mean? It's, you know, we don't know where this thing ends. But just the attempt, like it's the, I would say, argued the same thing with Ukraine and Russia, right? Like, he, he went in there with this idea of, I'm going to solve this. And that one has not been solved. Correct. But this is how he approaches these things.

Right. And it's not that, it's not that he can control other people. Because he can't. He can't control how Putin looks at it, et cetera, et cetera. But he doesn't say, he doesn't say, he. But he doesn't say no to big ideas. Yeah, right. You know, and that's allows him to approach those ideas. Everybody tries to nibble at the edges on everything, on everything. Look at how this guy has moved mountains. It's because he comes in, he's like, yeah, we're not doing it that way anymore.

Here's what we're going to do. You know, look at the difference in the State Department. Look at the difference in Marco Rubio. You know what I mean? Yeah. Marco Rubio is like one of the best, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, state department officials I've ever seen. Secretary of State?

Yeah. Have you ever, have you seen a better Secretary of State than him? Well, Hillary. You got to throw that, her into the conversation. It's because they're just saying what's true. They're very clear.

They don't compromise. I mean, they will compromise, but not on the principles. If these hostages are not returned on Monday or Tuesday, it'll be over. He's not going to go, okay, well, let's give you some more money. Let's do that.

No. We're not flying cash onto a tarmac. Is this his best issue? Yes. Of his entire presidency going back to the first term. Historically speaking for sure. Because I think, you know, I would, my argument would be the border probably, but, and I do think this second term, the border has been an overwhelming, unquestioned success.

but like I think the basis for what happened here was set in the first Trump term. It was. This is really something that has extended over both terms. He didn't get enough credit for it in the first term. We argued that constantly. And as soon as they came in, it was all reversed. People want war there. Yeah.

He doesn't. He doesn't want war. You're right. And people accused him of that, of course. They always say, you know, war monger and all these other things. I think he really does believe that to his core. And the only reason I think this stuff might be possible, and again, with all disclaimers aside for a moment here,

because we do know this is a very difficult road ahead on this. But the relationship... Hang on just... This is not just a difficult road. This is the moonshot of peace deals. Yeah, it's the one everyone mocks. How many times were we burning up on the launch pad? I mean, this is the moonshot hard.

And that's a, we all, we've already started to see Hamas whine about stuff. Who God only knows where this ends. But the basis for this even to be possible was set up in his first term with the improvement of relationships between these other Arab countries in the region and Israel. The fact that, I mean, you think, people are like, oh, what's Israel even giving up here? They are allowing, if this goes through, a bunch of these countries that for the past half century have attacked them every three years. Oh, don't, don't.

don't don't. It's 80 years. Thank you. Thank you. It's just since they're founding. Just since their founding have been attacked by a lot of these countries over and over again. And oftentimes in coalition with each other, they're allowing them to come in and, if this goes down the road, oversee part of their own country.

Yeah. Right? They are giving up a massive thing here. Yeah. And they only do that if they actually had some trust with these nations. And of course, trust with the United States. States to help enforce it. Here's Trump's genius.

You're exactly right. This was planted with the other countries last time with the Abraham Accords. They gained trust. But the Palestinians didn't have any trust. Because remember, we're the great Satan, you know, little Satan, blah, blah, blah. He has gotten the rest of the countries in the Middle East to say, no, they're not the little Satan. They have a right to exist.

we can coexist with them, blah, blah, blah. That's never been done. Okay, never been done. He did that last time. Remember when Qatar was attacked by Israel, okay? Mm-hmm. Just recently. Yeah.

And, and Donald Trump and everybody was like, wait, what are you doing? Donald Trump came out and read Benjamin Netanyahu, the riot act, and said, apologize. Okay. And Benjamin Netanyahu did. Okay. That's the key on this one. He, you don't, you can't take Donald Trump at the moment alone. You have to look at his strategy.

He is playing three dimensional chess. When he said that, he knew that was the key. They're now, they're all saying now that was the key. Because when he did that with Qatar and defended Qatar and said, hey, no, play nice. Everybody play nice. and Benjamin Netanyahu did apologize that separated the United States from Israel as, you know, just a little, you know, that we're all in it together. That's little Satan. We're big Satan.

It showed that the president is a fair and neutral broker and will look at both sides. And Israel isn't always right. The Middle East isn't always wrong. He showed that to them. That was the moment that the Palestinians. and said, okay, now wait a minute, maybe he is a somewhat honest broker for being the great Satan. That's what brought this to a head and brought everybody to the table and said, okay, we can trust Donald Trump. That's an amazing thing.

Yeah, this is, you know, it's unequivocal here. And this is, you know, you still have to get this over the finish line, but these are incredible accomplishments. They're accomplishments that every, I mean, it has become for as long as I've been involved in politics and world events and cared about it at all. It has been the joke. Oh, Middle East peace right around the corner. Yeah. It has been the joke that it's impossible, that it will always be promised. And, you know, again, we've got to get there.

But, like, this is as close as we've ever been. Would anyone ever say Gaza should be the wrong? Riviera. You would say no, no. Donald Trump, his vision from the beginning has been, this can be prosperous. This could be the Riviera. You just have to stop the terrorism. So he got the Middle East together and the Middle East

now says we'll rebuild. We're not rebuilding it. I don't want a dime going to rebuild that. They'll rebuild it. They'll guarantee the piece there because they'll have their money invested in it in hotels and golf courses and whatever they want to do and make it the Riviera. That changes everything, all the dynamics, because now the Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Qatar and everything else, they're going to be pouring billions of dollars into it. They're not going to want it wrecked. I mean, he's just, Just, he's brilliant.

The guy, if he doesn't get a Nobel prize, assuming this, the hostages come home next week. You know. Yeah. God only knows. But the guy deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. And I think they would just dissolve the award before they gave it to him. They would. They're like, no, no.

No, that Nobel Prize thing, that was yesterday. We don't do that anymore. We didn't pay our rent. The building's closed. Yeah. Like they're, but he will quite obviously deserve it if this happens. Have you heard what the rest of the world is saying about him? I mean, all the leaders from all over the world are like,

this is amazing. And the only reason it happened is because of Donald Trump. What is the left going to say? How do you, how do you, how do the protesters, if this ends? I mean, this is why it won't end if it doesn't. Because there is too much power that they'll be giving up on the streets of Europe and America and all over the world. How do you have the Palestinian protesters on the streets tearing our cities apart?

You don't. You don't. It's over. It's over. I mean, this is just genius from start to finish. All right, more in just a second. First, let me tell you about Simply Safe. By the way, we have a story to tell you about this Texas business owner who criticized the H-1B visas

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I think it's a seventh vote today. It's not going to pass. But is it just me? And I haven't heard anybody talk about this. I don't think, I mean, I think these shutdowns show America what government, you know, what essential government actually means. And, you know, with an exception of the air traffic controllers, which, by the way, if I were the president, I'd fire you.

You don't show up for work. You are essential to the economy, to the security, to everything in America. you, just like Reagan said, you don't strike, or I'll fire you and replace you. He's got to figure out a way to get all of the essential services paid and moving. And then I got to tell you, I would just be like, no, we're not negotiating. And I think if this president went four months and he could cover all of the essential services, no one would care. No one would care because they're getting everything.

then he could say, yeah, you know, 40% of the government's not even showing up for work. So why do we have that 40% of that government? Cut it. You could convince people that the sky doesn't, you know, fall. Planes don't fall out of the skies. But he's got to cover the essential services. Let's see, there's what else? What is Antifa is trending today online?

That's interesting that people are now like, What is Antiva? Just an idea, Glenn. It's just an idea. There's no organization. There's no real members, not a real group. It's just an idea. There's nothing you can do about it.

Might as well as to let them burn things down. So funny because the show I did last night was, you know, is Antifa just a, you know, a group of rag-tag rebels? There's no, there's no, you know, organization behind it. There's no leadership, et cetera, et cetera. and I went through some of the possible funding for Antifa and just asked the question all the way. Wait a minute. This group, we know, wrote a million dollar check to Antifa. If there's no organization, who did they make the checkout to?

What bank did they have deposited in? I also showed you last night that Fidelity and Charles Schwab, their charitable services, are giving to defense of Antifa. Now, if I had Charles Schwab or Fidelity, I would, a charity, their charity arm, I would ask, what is that? What are you doing with that? But, I mean, it's all going to come out in the wash because the president met in the White House yesterday. And he met with several people. One of them was a blaze reporter who has, you know, front-line experience with Antifa and talk to them about, you know, what they see, what connections they see. etc, et cetera, et cetera.

And I got to tell you, I think he's going to take them on. It's going to be a tough one because there's so much money involved. And when he starts going into things like Act Blue, you start peeling that onion and you just see the layers come off over and over and over again. And if he actually does that, it's going to change the world. But the left is not going to like it. They're not going to like it. But, you know, maybe we don't have the Palestinians in the streets trying to burn our cities down now and, you know, trying to kill the Jews, et cetera, et cetera.

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I want my kids to grow up in America, not India. Okay. You could read that as absolutely racist. You could read that a million different ways. Of course, nobody read that as anything other than absolutely racist. Now he has, his family has been docked. They have received death threats. The business was review bombed.

Somebody claimed to have access to millions of Indian Americans across America, tried to extort him and his family for 20,000. He deleted the post. He said, like, that's not what I mean. Now his church, I think has kicked him out of his church. What the hell is that? we wanted to have him on to explain Daniel Keene is with us now. Hello, Daniel. How are you, sir?

Good. How are you doing, Glenn? Very good. So let me ask you about the initial comment first. How did you mean that? Yeah, I certainly didn't mean it in racial terms. What I was trying to express is my opposition to the immigration policies, which is why I called out the H-1. B visa in particular. And, yeah, it just obviously was, as you mentioned, was definitely construed in racial terms.

And I was, you know, accused of having racial animosity as opposed to just wanting better, wiser immigration policy for our country. I heard somebody yesterday. I was standing by somebody, and I just overheard a conversation. And they said they live someplace here in Texas. and they have exactly the same view. And what they were saying was, you know, I grew up in this neighborhood. And it has fundamentally changed overnight.

And I'm not saying that, you know, they're deadbeats or anything else. It's just a completely different culture that is not American. And that happened before with Italians, you know, Italians moving in, et cetera, back in the past. But, you know, there should be. some desire to, you know, meld into our society and become Americans. I think the Indians do do that, but it's getting more and more rare with immigrants and certainly not happening with illegals.

Yeah, and, you know, what's interesting. I think a lot of people would find interesting is the Indians, I do know, they took no offense. They had no objection to the post. It was the sort of left-leaning Americans, and then it was foreign attacks, bought attacks on the business. So, interesting enough, you know, they didn't, they didn't, damn it as racial, as racist, and they actually have reached out to me, many of them, to voice their agreement. They see the violation of sort of the normal immigration, you know, standard of assimilation, or even a visa fraud.

And they, they too also think there needs to be reform and needs to be a pulling back on just the sheer mass amount. It's such a concentrated area, specifically here in Dallas too. Okay, so let me just go through some things. Your business was attacked.

Your family has been attacked. I mean, you have gone to this gym forever. They know you. You even talked to them for a while and, you know, after this. And everybody was cool. and then all of a sudden you lose your gym membership, you're no longer welcome here. And then the one I really want to talk to you about is your church.

What happened at your church? Yeah, oh, man. Yeah, so with the church, obviously initially, when the post went viral, it got significant traction, which when I posted it, I had 300 followers on X, not as significant. I was really just speaking to friends and people I knew. But yeah, I went viral and obviously the threats came pretty quickly.

I sort of in a panic, deleted it, you know, thinking I wasn't expecting to be a public figure overnight. So my information was accessible to people. So talking to my wife in the middle of the night, we deleted the post and I deleted the post. And following up, the church reached out to me and you would think that the church was concerned with the extortion and the threats. the accusations and the attacks in the business, but they were very, very concerned with the public image of the church being brought in to my expression of the opposition of the policies. Did you mention the Trails Church? Because let me bring them in. Did you mention the Trails Church? No, it was easily accessible that, like, I was a member. I'm a heavily involved member of

the church. I was leading Bible studies, leading community groups, coordinating services. So I was not a, I was not on staff, but I was as about as involved as a member as you could be. Okay. So they know you. Um, and they call you in and they say this is, your post was uncharitable. Okay. All right. So they interview you and it's not really, it doesn't turn out to be like, hey, let's solve this. It seems almost like an inquisition, at least the way I have read about it. Can you tell me? what happened? Yeah. Yeah, so immediately following the post, it was a phone call with three elders and me, and them expressing that they deemed it as racist and not, quote, not loving my neighbor.

And, you know, obviously my opposition to that was, which neighbor are we talking about? Because I'm acting out of love for my friends and the members of the church who are being harmed by these policies. And they, they were more concerned with how an Indian immigrant might understand what, you know, what I mean by that, with that post. So that was followed. That was a couple or about an hour and a half conversation. Then there was another phone call. And then that was on the Wednesday. And then actually, that was the Wednesday that Charlie was was assassinated. Oh my gosh. And it changed the dynamic quite a bit. It gave me some fortitude, looking at the, just the impact he had on my life and on so many others.

And so it gave me some fortitude to continue to express that I didn't think that I sinned with the post. I thought that I was honoring God and caring for my neighbor. And I was willing to kind of suffer the consequences if they wanted to continue in the meetings. And it was in that meeting that they expressed that this was church-disclose. discipline that I was in the process of, which is Baptist is a very serious thing. At the end, typically for congregationalists, you're brought before the church and you're voted to be removed and treated as a Gentile and unbeliever. And so that was very concerning that I was in the process.

I never in my life thought that I would be in the process of church discipline. And Charlie's death kind of changed the dynamic a little bit. They brought me in one more time with my wife. the insist that my wife was there. She's eight and a half weeks pregnant, or eight and a half months pregnant. I'm sorry, at that point to redo the next week. And so she observed, and with seven elders and me, and they peppered me with questions for two hours. And what were the question? The questions were in-depth nuance of my views on the issue. And I just answered them with, you know, it's not, I don't have a racial animosity. I was on staff with Campus Crusade for Christ. I worked

with international students for three years, sharing the gospel with them. I have tons of affection and love for a good dynamic of immigration policies that has a sunset and they're returning back to the country and relieving on good terms and all those things. Their concern was that just the policy itself, my position, the expression of my position was deemed as not loving towards other people. and I just wholeheartedly disavow that and don't affirm that. Made clear my views on race that I'm not racist, I don't view people with racial animosity or hatred. In fact, I think these policies actually, when done incorrectly, they lead to racial animosity. When you bring in so many people at one time into one area and you see that you talk to people and you hear about them feeling like they're losing their country, there's an there's an animosity that,

that's kind of stirred up. And there's, there's not brotherly love and affection for one another when that happens. There should be as much concern about the people who feel that way. You should have as much concern about, hey, let's sit down, let's talk about this, let's find the way. So you don't feel that way. Let's find the way to slow down or whatever it is, not stop, but to make sure that you're comfortable, they're comfortable. I mean, so what was the outcome with the church? Yeah, and certainly it's their right to express that, right? Yeah.

So the outcome was it ended with another meeting, another two-hour kind of meeting, because I'm not willing to admit that I send in this way, I am therefore not submitting to the elders, and I need to find another church. I was asked formally to leave the church. They did not bring me before the church to vote, so there wasn't, in their terms on a technicality, I wasn't technically excommunicated. I was just told with eight elders and staff that I needed to go to another church,

which I said, okay, give me, like, I'll do that, but I need to find another church. And then ultimately, they ended up making comments to the church verbally. And saying that I wasn't a member, which was news to me and my wife as well. And so we reached back out to them. We said, hey, we do want to continue to be members until we find a new church. they said that's too late. You're not a member anymore. And then I, you know, the articles were published and now I'm talking to you.

Wow. Wow. So where do you stand? Have you found a new church? We've had numerous people reach out to us, express, hey, you're welcome here, you're welcome here. And so we've got a list of great churches, I think, and great pastors who have been, even counseling me. Immediately, I kind of reached out to other pastors just to get some other perspective. Like, am I, did I send?

Did I really do something wrong? Because I don't feel like I did, and they kind of were able to counsel us, actually counsel my wife and I through the process, whereas the elders just wanted to kind of run an inquisition on me. Why do you think they did that? What, what? I mean, I think that they. are very concerned in the most charitable way possible towards them. I think they're concerned with me being a stumbling block for people to come to join the church, to come to know Christ.

And that's their primary concern. And I, I, I, and if that was the primary concern, I would not be a member of any church. There's no way any church would. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've had, you know, even in my own church, people say, well, he's a member, then I don't know what a member is. Okay. Well, don't go to church because of the members. Go because of the truth of the gospel. That's what you're there for. We're all on the path of trying to be better people, trying to get to the truth one way or another. I mean, wow, you only take the people you agree with. Yeah, that was, that was something I expressed towards the end was, it ultimately was like my final concern. and is my, the reason why I'm willing to talk about it publicly, and of course I'm being accused of, you know, sewing division and all these things after I'm a member, or not a member anymore.

But my issue that I see, and I hear these stories of people who deal with the same thing, is that the church, there are things that the church, that maybe leaders in the church value, that are, maybe they're, their landmines, and these are major sins to them, and their, and their, and they're, and they're, eyes, they're not major sins in terms of, or even sin, you want to say, in scripture. And where they overlook the clear objective sin taking place in the church, they have no problem devoting so much of time and attention and energy to something that is very within the Christian liberty area, liberty of conscience on this issue. So, Daniel, I am, I'm sorry for what you've gone through and I know you've learned an awful lot, and hopefully the church has learned something as well. But I wish you all the best of luck, and you have a right to speak your mind, peacefully, calmly, and have your own opinion. I appreciate you speaking out.

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Well, Carol Roth, welcome to the program. How are you? I'm doing great, Glenn. I'm actually celebrating my 26th wedding anniversary. raised today, so it's a blessed day. Oh, well, congratulations. Congratulations. You know, it's weird.

I'm coming up on my 26th in January. Oh, fabulous. Fabulous. It's a good amount of time to be married for sure. It is. So, Carol, let's talk a little bit about the price of gold hitting. What is it? It's over 4,000.

Over 4,000, which is nuts. And I don't think people really understand. I don't think the average, this is my guess, and I want you to correct me. I don't think the average person is buying gold. I think this gold buying is happening from sovereign funds and central banks, mainly, also Asian markets. I don't think Americans really understand what $4,000 an ounce means. Can you explain it? Yeah, absolutely.

Obviously, I think that the world, both investors and central banks are catching up to the things that you and I have been talking about for years. So, you know, we were ahead. We warned everyone. And now this is a little bit of catch-up. Interestingly, you know, as you noted, the average American is very behind in terms of what gold means. When you look at Chinese households, when you look at Indian households, there are estimates that each one of those countries' households owns about up to 30,000 tons of gold at this point, which, to put that in context, the U.S. government, owns 8,133 tons. So the Indian households, all of them combined, 27,000 tons.

Right. What we have, what we say we have, is 8100. Right. Wow. So the households in China and India are really ahead of the curve. When you look at data for the U.S., it's a little bit hard to get good data, but from what I've seen, the estimates are only about 10 to 11 percent of U.S. households.

at all have exposure to gold. Now, I know that your audience is very sophisticated and is ahead of the curve, and I would imagine blows through that number, but just shows how sort of unprepared U.S. households are, you know, in general. When you're looking at Indian and Chinese households and own gold, does that include all the gold jewelry? Yes. Yes.

Yes. That's actually particularly in India, sort of one of their preferred ways of procuring gold. So gold has shot up over $4,000 in record time, I mean, breathtaking time. Yes. What is causing that? Okay. So there are a confluence of factors, and I think the two most important factors, which, of course, are linked, are what Wall Street is now calling the debt debasement trade, which they've just caught on to and gave it a cute name, and the changing global financial order.

and those are very much linked. So I'll go and see each of that. Tell me what the, what is it, the debt debasement? What is that? They're calling it the debt debasement trade, which is just basically what you and I have been talking about, which is our unsustainable fiscal position, and what all of the money printing that we've seen over the past, you know,

17 years, what that has done to our purchasing power and how that is going to catch up to us. So as a reminder, our debt to GDP is at emerging market crisis levels. We're 120 plus percent of GDP. We're running deficits that are equivalent to a wartime level or a recession level while we still have growth, which is crazy. We have interest rate that is outpacing defense or interest payments that are outpacing defense spending.

So everyone is now finally catching. on to the fact that this is an unsustainable financial position, and it is going to be very difficult to get out of without there being some sort of additional debasement of our currency, which is a fancy way of saying a diminishment of your purchasing power. What's really crazy, there's a chart that's been going around, and they did kind of a comparison of different asset classes priced in U.S. dollars and priced in gold. So if you look from the end of September 2018 out seven years, and you look at the top 100 NASDAQ non-financial companies, it's called the NDX. In U.S. dollar terms, that is up 236%. So you think you're super rich, right?

But in gold terms, solid money that doesn't have its value-based, it's only up 4.7%. Oh my gosh. Wait, it gets worse. The S&P 500, up 133% over that period in dollar terms. It's down 27.6% in gold terms. And the what's called the Case Schiller Home Price Index, which is the value of homes, the way that's measured, in dollar terms up 60%. Well, I'll say, oh, you know, houses so expensive.

In gold terms, it's down 50%. In fact, right now, it takes less. gold in terms of ounces to buy the median single-family house than it has in, you know, decades and decades and decades. So it goes to show that even though we see these dollars, they're buying less and less. And now, you know, you and I've been talking about this forever, but now Wall Street is catching on, oh, that's not a great thing. And so in terms of preserving the hard-earned capital, we need something that is that, that hedge,

that neutral hedge that's going to retain its value. And that's why more investors, institutional investors, funny enough, a lot of millennials more than anyone, starting to really get into gold. You know why? Because millennials have not been trained their whole life.

Trust the system. Yes. And they see it clearly. And they look at it and they're like, well, this doesn't make any sense at all. You can't spend this. And, you know,

you're going to, you're going to wreck the dollar and everything else. They just see it without being trained over and over and over again that, oh, no, trust the system. They don't trust the system. And once you realize that system is rigged in a million different ways and the system is not telling you the truth, like, I mean, that is amazing. When you look at the stock market and you say it's actually down when you compare it in U.S. dollars to gold, what's happening is, let me explain. explain this to the audience. What all that means is gold is only going up in dollars. It's staying, it's staying stable. Yes. But it's costing you more because of inflation. The dollars are buying less.

So it looks like you're paying more, but you're really not. It looks like the stock market is going up, but it's really not. It's what it costs to get in with dollars. If you were going in with gold, you'll actually see that if it was all done in gold, the stock market is down. The price of housing is down. It's the dollar. It takes more dollars to buy than it does with gold, which holds its value.

That is that if people could understand that one thing, that changes all of the conversations of, the government's got to do something to make housing more affordable. No, they don't. They have to stabilize the dollar. They have to stop spending. so much money. Yeah, I mean, if you think of the three definitions of money, it is a medium of exchange,

you know, how you help to exchange goods, it's a unit of account, which we say things are priced in dollars, and it's supposed to be a store of value. The unit of account that you just talked about, my friend Steve Forbes has a great analogy, and he talks about other measurements. You know, imagine that your clock, you know, one day, you know, 12 o'clock, you know, means midnight and another day, three o'clock means midnight, or six inches to measure a curtain one day, and then the same measurement is like a foot, a different day. You can't have a consistent measurement if the unit of account continues to change, and that's what we've been seeing here

with the dollar. And unfortunately, it has not been to our favor, which means that when you work really hard to earn something and it's valued in a dollar, that over time, you're That work that you've put out, your productivity is worth less and less. And so what gold is meant to do, it's meant to be capital preservation. It's not a risk asset. It's not meant to take on risk and maybe go up a ton and maybe go down a ton. It's really meant to be a counterbalance to what you have earned so that you can preserve your purchasing power. You know, I've been saying this for a long time that, you know, you put your money, and I have money in the stock market, but you put your money in the stock market.

if things really go awry, go ahead. You're going to cash out for an awful lot of money, but those dollars, it's going to be paid back to you in dollars. Those dollars will be worth less, even though there's more of them stacked up than that ounce of gold or that, you know, 10 ounces of gold or whatever you had. The stock market is paid in dollars. And so as the inflation goes up, but gold, keeps its value, keeps its value, and holds it steady. So yeah, you're going to be paid more in dollars if you try to sell your gold, but that's going to continue to increase while stock markets will go down. Am I right? And it's a counterbalance. So if things were to shift,

and for some reason, you know, things were to change with the dollars, which would need, you know, a lot of different catalyst, and then your gold goes down, it's a counterbalance, which is why it's important to have that diversification in your portfolio and to have the gold hedge. What's interesting, Glenn, is just the history. We're talking about millennials, you know, they went through the Great Recession financial crisis. You know, they're kind of, you know, keyed into this. But if you think about when we came out of the 70s with this crazy inflation, we came out of the gold standard, it used to be very commonplace for a financial advisor to sit down

and say, okay, we've been through this. And so you should be putting, you know, five to 10 percent of your portfolio and gold. As the stock market took off in dollars and became this big thing and they started seeking fees, that went away. And financial advisors who don't get paid sometimes at all when you allocate to gold, stop recommending it. And now we're seeing a shift back. Now we're seeing, you know, oh, yes, you should have some of the big names out there saying even more.

Ray Dalio just came out and said 15%. Yes, we've seen from big names like that anywhere from 10 to 20. And when they surveyed high net worth investors, which are $250,000 or assets or more, they're averaging right now, 21% of their holdings in gold. So a very big flip in recent years on how this is being viewed by the people who have accumulated those dollars and are worried about that. Okay, so let me just sum up. our eyes here before we move on on to some other questions.

That is exactly what my grandfather who lived through the Depression said. What are the people with big, large amounts of money doing? I want to do that and if I would have done that, I would have been better off in the Great Depression. You just heard it. 20% or more,

right? For big dollars, they're investing in gold, 20%. You should have some. And it's interesting. Some of the portfolios we're seeing, some of that is coming, not necessarily from the equity piece, but from the fixed income piece, which is pretty interesting, too. Amazing. Okay, let me switch gears with you here in just a second. I want to talk to you a little bit about the shutdown. and I want to talk to you about the AI bubble as well. Is that real? We'll do that in 60 seconds first.

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630, central time, and you can get your tickets at turning point tour.com, first come, first serve, but I hope to see you there. I am bringing millions of dollars worth of artifacts to show what you're learning in school and what the truth is. It's going to be a fabulous talk tonight. I'm standing in for Charlie Kirk in University of North Dakota. Then I'll be back here tomorrow morning to do another show. Okay. Carol. Yes. Hey, Gle, before we move on, we spent all that time talking about the debt to basement trade. Do we want to talk about the changing global financial order piece on gold, too, or do we want to come back to that another time? I think we come back to that another time.

I mean, can you mention it sum it up in a paragraph about what bricks and everybody else's doing? Yeah, so basically, for the last 14 to 15 years, the banks around the world have not been buying our treasuries on net. They've been net selling them when you look at it altogether, and they have been replacing that with gold. And the power center for gold is starting to shift to the east. China is building up their own vault. They're building up their own trading, and they're really making that a de facto reserve currency. So if you want another piece of what's going on, central bank buying of gold used to be about 10% of the volume. It's now about China. 20% and all the suppression and the price that used to happen out of the London paper market

is now being challenged by what's going on in the east, and that's part of the reason why we have seen this move that should have happened a long time ago start to really move and accelerate. And I want to make it clear, you know, the reason why the United States became the world's powerhouse is because we lent money to Europe, and they sent us their gold. So at the end, we had this huge pile of gold, and we had the power to be able to say, we're going to base everything, we're going to do a dollar, and it's going to be based on the gold because we have all the gold. And now we have debase that money. God only knows how much gold we actually have.

I hope we have what we say we do. And the other countries now are piling gold in. So if things repeat, as they always do, especially when you're talking about mathematics, those countries that are piling up the gold are going to be the ones after the big crash to say, we're going to provide the currency or we'll just make all of the trades based in gold, which, you know, it's basically what we were doing, you know, when we had an actual dollar based in gold. All right, Carol, we're going to come back. And I want to talk to you a little bit about the shutdown, how that is affecting things.

How long can we go on this? and also the AI bubble. There's an amazing stat. There are only seven companies that are actually driving the S&P 500, and they're all AI companies. That doesn't sound good. This is Glenn Beck. What does all of that mean? More with Carol in just a second.

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I want to talk about the shutdown with her, but I want to start with the AI bubble. There's a lot of talk about the AI bubble, and I don't think people really understand because they see the stock market going up. But if you look at the S&P, that's only really seven companies that are driving the gains here. And those seven companies are all AI-based. So if it is a bubble or even if it is not a bubble, but there is some sort of shock to the system, we have not diversified. The S&P is not diversified.

It's seven AI companies. Something happens to AI, and the bottom falls out. That's the way I read it. Carol, can you talk me down from that tree? So I actually probably have, you know, somewhat good news for the first time ever. Oh, good. Thank you. You know, there's definitely truth to what we're saying,

but I do think that there's another side that make it a bit different than the dot-com bubble, at least we hope. Uh-oh, this time it's different. I never like that. Yeah, a little bit. So since April, when the stock market went a little bit crazy, what they call the magnificent seven companies, the big names out there, the Amazon and the like. Basically, those have accounted for a little over half the gains in the stock market because there is so much money being thrown at AI. You know, certainly right now, everything is an AI company because everybody wants dollars.

So if you scoop ice cream, you figured out a way to make your ice cream of, you know, better with artificial intelligence because that gets you a little bit of a bump. And we know that the valuations are nonsensical. We know a lot of money has been thrown there. And what we'd like to see is what we call a broadening of the market, which means more stocks and more sectors and more sizes of companies. not just the big guys, but the little guys to doing better. And that's a bit of a healthier market.

So we want to see that. The small cap stocks have increased significantly in 2025. So that is a good thing. We are seeing that those are captured in a different index in the S&P 500. So we are seeing a bit of that, and that's good news. Where I think this is different than the dot-com bubble is if you look at companies, you know, like Microsoft, like NVIDIA, that are, you know, do have. these crazy valuations. These are not like the companies, they're not Pets.com.

Right. These are companies that are substantially large technology companies that were worth half a trillion, trillions of dollars before AI came into the picture. And if you go back, you know, over the years, they've switched to the hot thing. First, it was the Internet of Things. That was the hot thing. And then they got a premium value for that. Then it was. the cloud, now it's AI. So my guess is that there's probably something in their pocket that's post-AI quantum computing or, you know, whatever it is. The next hot thing that if this doesn't come to fruition in the way that, you know, it may not because it is, disruption is lagging, some of the adoption is lagging, and it doesn't become, you know, this big game changer that we

think it is that at least you have these solid companies that aren't going to zero, that have a diversified base in terms of their own business, and probably have the next hot thing that is going to sustain it. So I do think it's different. Certainly from a venture capital standpoint, you know, where dollars are being allocated, they are all going to AI. They're getting crazy valuations, 60% of those companies, it's estimated are pre-revenue. They haven't even generated a dollar yet. But it's also early innings on AI. So when you think about the internet when we had the dot-com bubble, that was kind of the

first wave. And some of the companies that went out, you know, the infrastructure caught up. And now we have companies. We didn't have Tech.com, but we have chewy. We didn't have Webvan, but we have, you know, DoorDash and Instacart So we're still early innings. So I do think you're probably going to get some volatility and shifting here, but I don't think that we're looking at the same, you know, kind of meltdown that we're –

That's all I want to – I just want to be able to get 20 minutes a shut-eye, not thinking about that. The shutdown, I'm somebody who believes if he could find a way to stabilize the air traffic control, and get all of the essential stuff down, I would be happy with a government shutdown forever. You know, because I think you could make the case. If you could stabilize things, you could make the case. Hey, everybody, we got 40% of the people aren't going to work and they haven't been going to work for three months.

Have you noticed a difference? Because I haven't. Let's fire all those people. I mean, I think it would be a great experiment. But how long can we go? can we stabilize things to keep going this way? And what is this affecting? I love your idea.

It's sort of Doge 2.0, you know, as long as we can get the military and air traffic, control paid, and all of that. The stuff that people care about. Let's start with Congress. That would be a great place to start. So right now, if you look at Wall Street, you know, the investors don't seem to care. They don't seem to think that there's enough that's going on. And I think what shifts that and what changes that is if it goes on to the point in time,

and I don't have a date for you, but at the point of time, when it starts to either impact the market and or it impacts the economy in terms of consumer spending. And how will that impact? I understand spending if people aren't getting paid. Right. But the same thing with the stock market is that there is a wealth effect linked there, is that when people see their 401k is going up, you know, they feel like they're wealthier and that they're willing to go out and to make purchases.

And when they see that going down, they get concerned about that. They get concerned about the economy. The consumer is 70% of the economy, so that sentiment matters greatly. And the reality is, given our precarious financial situation that we've talked about, we cannot afford for GDP to go down. afford for capital gains collection, tax collections to go down. We cannot afford for the economy to contract and not have that same revenue base because that's going to explode the deficit. That means going to have more interest expense. It could put us into a debt spiral. So

that's the real concern is that we need to keep that. And the things that you mentioned, the air traffic control, you know, that's not going to be great for consumer sentiment if that becomes a big issue. And the other thing is that nobody wants to see the people who serve us in the military, active duty military, they don't want to see 1.3 million people not get a check. And that's coming up. That's coming up in, you know, I think a week or so. Isn't that, I mean, when a government shuts down, isn't it supposed to be on all non-essential? So this is, the military is essential. Air traffic is essential. How come that's a carve-out? Do you know? I, you know, nothing in government makes sense to me. My guess is that they will probably have some sort of tiering,

and, you know, based on the amount of money that they have available, certain things happen first, and then certain things happen second. But we know that the government's coffers aren't in a great position right now either. So, you know, they may have run those numbers. I haven't tried to do that, but I think that's, you know, how that works and they see how much money is available for all the things that they need to pay. You know, the other frustrating thing, and I've only got about four minutes and I've got a couple more questions for you, but the other frustrating thing on this is this is only a stopgack for when do we hit it again, like seven weeks? I mean, when will we get serious and actually do a budget? You see that in the horizon ever again?

You know, you're asking, you need to rationalize crazy. And I think that's the challenging part here. We have so many ways that we can write our ship and put us on a good path. The weak link is always Congress. If Congress doesn't get serious and they are right now not insented to, then whatever we do, they can just undo. So we need to find a way to hold them more accountable than just, oh, you're not going to get elected again. I think that we need to really seriously rethink the accountability of the people who are supposed to, quote, unquote, represent us, who are truly really only representing their interests and their power.

Okay, so let me talk to you about Obamacare. Obamacare, we knew, would never work. Everything that's happening right now, we said would happen in 2008, 9, 10. And even the Washington Post came out, I think it was this week or late last week, with an op-ed from the editorial board, the whole board, saying it was never going to work. it doesn't work. You know, it's a debacle. What is coming off the table are these subsidies that were given due to COVID. Now everybody is, you know, acting like that was always part of Obamacare.

It never was. We have to not just keep throwing good money after bad. This is not going to work. It's a bad system. But I don't see anybody on the left, I'm sorry, on the right, offering any kind of real strategy and people are going to be hurt when those Obamacare premiums go up. So how do we solve this? Yeah, I mean, actually you're seeing people on the right saying that we should be extending

the subsidies because they know that when people see their premiums and see them go through the roof, which, by the way, they're going to go somewhat through the roof anyway because some of this, the insurance companies have baked in and said, you know, we expect there's going to be political dysfunction, so we're just going to bake that in anyway. But, you know, because midterms are coming up, you have Republicans actually saying, oh, we should probably extend these for some period of time. But, again, that's political. That doesn't get to the heart of the issue. I mean, health care is just an absolute mess in this country.

And I've seen really great proposals. Ovik Roy has had some. really thorough proposals, but it really means, you know, uprooting and disrupting the whole system. And politically, there is the appetite to do things that are necessary to fix the problem. They want to kick the can to somebody else because, again, as we were talking about with accountability, they just want to get reelected and say that they did something and, you know, grandstand or, you know, make something up. They don't want to actually solve our problems.

And, you know, it was never going to be a. affordable care. We all knew that. We all knew we were losing our doctors. We knew that this was going to be an absolute mess. It has made it worse. And, you know, that's been a frustrating point with Republicans forever is that they identify this as an issue, but there has never been a really solid proposal while there are ones that are sitting out there from great thinkers on how we put it in place. And there just doesn't seem to be the political will. So, once again, we need to figure out a way to create that accountability. If we want these problems solved,

we cannot just assume that electing a handful of good people and a bunch of mediocre and bad people is going to fix that. Carol, thank you so much. God bless. Happy Anniversary. Oh, thank you very much. All right. You bet.

Bye-bye. Carol Roth, the author of You Will Own Nothing and a former investment banker to talk to us about the economy. And if you don't follow her, you should. If you want to really know what's going on with the economy, follow her at Carol J.S. Roth. Carol J.S. Roth on X. Or you find her at Carolroth.com slash news.

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Hello, America. Welcome to the program. We want to talk about this is not just a

Gaza peace deal. This is actual peace in the Middle East if this comes through.

It's something that's never ever been done before and shocking, shocking in its

scope, assuming that it takes hold. You know, already the opposition party in Israel is saying that Donald Trump deserves a Nobel Prize. I mean, you know, the worst thing you could say is, he only get it for the prize. Give him the freaking prize. Yeah, whatever.

I mean, it was harder than opening a cracker jack box, which I think is all that Obama had to do to get a Nobel Prize. This is historic what was announced last night. and he's already on to something else. I've never seen a president like this. We'll talk about that and so much more this hour. Stand by First, Real Estate Agents I Trust, when you list your home for sale,

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I have very little belief that they are typically able to do such things. That being said, they probably also, you know, one of the things, a friend of mine pointed this out to me, we were going over all of this. And he said, one thing to think about is that this is like not the B team of Hamas, but like the R team Hamas, they've killed so many of the leadership. These are people making decisions that were not at the top of this organization

and had those ridiculous ideological beliefs that would lead you to October 7th. That's not to mean that Hamas, these people that are left are like, hey, you want to invite him over for Thanksgiving. But I do think there is a, there's a possibility here that they're like, you know, maybe this life isn't for us.

Maybe like, you know, taking... It would be nice if that were true. I don't know if that's true, but it would be really nice. I do think that there might be a little bit lower ideological commitment potentially, and also the idea that some of these people might be able to make this deal and escape to another third country and live life there in a different way. So the breaking news that just was announced, Israel, their parliament or their cabinet just met and approved phase one of the deal. And Hamas has just come out and said they accept phase one of the deal. that means the hostages will be released either this weekend or Monday.

Any remaining hostage will be released. I mean, just that. Just that is a remarkable. If that occurs, it is a massive achievement. Yes. So far, it is already the greatest opportunity we've had. And only possible because of his dedication to this idea. And his deal making, not just his.

vision, but his ability to work all of the parties and find out what all the parties need and make it happen. You know, we're not talking about peace between Gaza, you know, Hamas and Israel. We're talking about peace in the Middle East. Yeah. It's bigger. It's bigger than just Israel. I mean, it's Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Jordan to some extent and Turkey.

All of them getting together and saying, you know what? we'll rebuild Gaza. We want to make it into a very prosperous kind of area. I mean, think of places in Saudi Arabia that are so prosperous. That's the way Gaza could be. So they're all getting together in the saying, we will rebuild,

we'll oversee, we'll try to make everything, you know, keep everything held. They're going to put their money into it, which means they have a lot to lose if things go awry. And they all are saying, we can coexist with Israel.

That, that, that, that, that, Three years ago, did you think that was even possible? Yeah, and, you know, look, there are a lot of places you can go and find nonstop criticism of Donald Trump. That they'll say terrible things and everything he does is the worst thing ever.

Also, there are plenty of places you can go where you find that everything he does is the greatest thing of all time. I hope you realize that that's not what we do here. I mean, and I said this, and you said this as well when we, when this was an unveiled. Sometimes you can get people are critical of the way Trump handles these situations sometimes and sometimes there's arguments on that Sometimes it's not the best approach like I you know we were critical of him for example of how we handled Canada I think like you know probably cost Pollyev that election and I I think that's a really bad thing I do too That being said this is a great example of where his instincts worked perfectly This is all set up over a long period of foundational stuff from his first term with the decision he made to kind of

come out and just announce the agreement with Netanyahu. We agreed. We agreed to this peace deal. Now, in theory, we have no position to agree between these two parties, but he came out and said, we agree. And instead, all of the focus had been, look at all the bad things Israel is doing. Look at how bad they are. They're so evil. They're so bad. And he came out and said, we've agreed with Israel. Now we just need Hamas. And so the world's attention was like, well, what's Hamas going to say? Finally, he was able to focus the attention in the appropriate place to the party that is holding the hostages to say, hey, how about asking if they want a freaking ceasefire for once? He was able to do that in a way that I think only Donald Trump could achieve, which leads to this over a long foundation.

And here's another thing. You know, this guy has walked through wall after wall after wall of fire. Everybody calling him everything. Nazi every day. Here's a guy who, you know, in a time period where in the whole world is like, the Jews control everything. Donald Trump is run by the Jews. He not only kept his relationship with Israel solid and helped them when he thought they were right.

But when they were wrong, in his view, he chastised them. He knew how to do it and still hold their respect and gain the respect of places like Qatar and say, so Qatar, when he chastised Benjamin Netanyahu and Benjamin Netanyahu had to, I think, apologize to some degree about what they did in Qatar.

That's when the Middle East went, wait a minute, he's not being controlled by the Jews. You know what I mean? That should be a really big wake-up call to everybody who thinks that Donald Trump is just being controlled by the Jews. No, no, no, no, he's not. He does what he thinks is right and he'll chastise both sides and he'll support either side when they're right to get to a deal. That's good for everybody. This deal could be amazing.

I don't have any faith. And it's not because of this deal. I happened to. I read the end of the book, so I know how this ends. This is not going to, you know, this is a, you skipped ahead? I skipped ahead. I skipped ahead. So, you know, this isn't the-

Don't ruin anything. Don't. No spoiler alerts. Let's just say this might last for, you know, a week. It might last for a thousand years. I don't know, but, you know, we're going to be in this situation again. And we all know that. We all know that.

But let's take and celebrate peace while we can. And the hostage is coming back. that is massive, massive, and due to Donald Trump. I mean, today, if you don't like Donald Trump, fine, fine. But how do you take this one apart? Honestly, how do you not claim this is a massive victory for the whole world? Well, I can tell you that a lot of the people on the left are rooting for it to collapse, which is a shockingly revealing moment.

I mean, they are, you know, they're not going to be out there. Like, we hope this collapses. But you know, they hope it collapses. They don't want to give Trump credit for it. And they'd rather have this continue. They'd rather have this war go on than admit that the reason it's ending is because Donald Trump was able to negotiate this deal. That is central.

I think anybody who has played politics with the Palestinian, you know, all that stuff and all the stuff on the streets. That has been a very effective tool for them. And so I would agree, they don't want that tool to be taken away. You think the Hamas wing of the party wants this, of the Democratic Party? You think you think Rashida Talibs all thrilled about Donald Trump's efforts here? I think we're going to hear from Ilan Omar about how wonderful. But those are extremist. I know. I mean that, though. But I think this is a very revealing dividing line on the left, right? If there is anything that is ever going to have. happen that Donald Trump can be given credit for, that you think this would be clear.

Like, John Federman, I mean, Federman's obviously been pretty good on this issue. But Federman came out and gave a statement that, like, should be basic, basic. Like, hey, this is good. I really hope this works. Like, it was, you know, Donald Trump did a good job on this. That's the type of stuff that should be obvious for everyone to be able to get on board with. That's what Tip O'Neill would have done. Everybody always says, Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan, they got together.

They disagreed. They fought hard, but they had dinner. Yeah, because. Tip O'Neill could say that was good. That was good. What he just did was good for all of us. That worked well, good. I'm glad that happened. Right. You should be glad that happened. I mean, we should all be rooting for the success here.

Even if what the, you know, like I rooted, again, and we have all sorts of criticisms of the way Barack Obama, you know, dealt with the Middle East. But like, really? Yeah, plenty of them. And we went over them over and over again. And plenty of issues with specifically the way he went after

Osama bin Laden. But on the day that it happened, really happy about it. Very happy. Very happy that we were able to do it. Now, look, it's our military that does it. We can go through all. They can say all this stuff too. They can say, oh, well, the real reason is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But like, we can still be happy that this occurred. And you could still be excited and give credit where credit is due. This is a win for all humankind, for humanity, for life. Stopping Hamas from torturing, you know, torturing kidnap victims. stopping the bloodshed that was happening because of the war on both sides. That is a win. Having the possibility of a stable Middle East, at least for a while, that's a win. That's a win all the way around.

Everyone should be happy. I don't care if you like the president or not. Everyone should be happy that mankind put one on the chalkboard for all of mankind today. This is a huge, I've never seen. This is on the good side. side. Never seen this one before. Didn't see this one coming. I mean, we should all be able to say, wow. And thank you. Because he's the, I really truly believe when it comes to negotiating things like this, there is nobody better. I mean, that's what he does for a living. And he knows it. He knows

how to read a room. He knows how to read people. He knows how to work it. And this is evidence of it. And he will do things that are so out of the norm that it resets everybody's thinking. I mean, you know, I mentioned that. If he wouldn't have done that, if he wouldn't have done that, we wouldn't have all the Middle East signing onto a peace deal. What would every, look, presidents I respect, what would they have done in the situation like Trump was with Netanyahu? Their advisors would have said, look, this is great.

You guys are together on this. Let's go to Hamas. We'll talk to them. We'll see if we can get something done. We don't want to ruin it by announcing it publicly. And like, there are times where that tactic might not work, but it worked really well here. He forced them to basically say, no, we don't want to ceasefire or, okay, we'll go along with us. And by the way, you go down that list.

There's a lot of stuff. This is Hamas never, ever having control of this region ever again is built into this agreement. Now, they've only talked about, you know, they're only on phase one here. So we don't know that we get all of the stuff. stuff. But like, there's a lot here that really improves the lives of Israelis, of Palestinians. Arab Israelis in the region, you know, Palestinians, other Arabs in the region. Saudi Arabia, everybody. And not to mention just globally, right, this is a positive development. Look at what this does. That's Turkey. So that separates Turkey from Syria, which is, you know,

right in bed with Iran. I mean, think about how this boxes. if you have the entire Middle East now operating with Israel and saying they have a right to exist, think about what that means for this block now to Iran. Iran doesn't mind being a pariah, but now everyone is officially saying, I'll do business with them. We will choose Israel over these guys. That's a big statement in that world. Big deal. All right.

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Ten seconds. I'm up on my way to North Dakota today. I'm filling in for Charlie Kirk. I was supposed to do this with Charlie. And then Charlie died and they asked me if I would just go do it myself. So I'm speaking in the University of, I think it's University of North Dakota and really excited to be there. I am bringing all kinds of history. I mean, you can argue with me all you want, but how do you argue with the actual text and the actual documents?

I mean, go ahead, try. So I'll be teaching things that you do not learn in school, good and bad about America. We'll do that today. And then I'll be back here tomorrow. Can I play something for you that I heard this morning? Can you play this song for me as I set it up? So I come in this morning and I'm checking, you know, what's trending and everything else. And on Instagram, go ahead, play it.

On Instagram, I hear this. Back again. I love soul. Shady's back. Tell a friend. And I. I asked Sarah to come in. What's the app that you use?

Chazam. Chazam. I asked her, come in with Shazam, and can you tell me what song this is? Nothing. I go to ChachyPT. What song is this? Nothing. And it's called Eminem.

I can't remember. Something, but it's an M&M song. Listen. It's Eminem without me. It's without, without me by Eminem. And I'm like, who is this? It's AI. I mean, the thing of this, it's a soulless program making soul.

It's soul. It's incredible. How is this happening? It's like good too. It's like really good. I like it better than the original. Yeah, I went down this rabbit hole today of these AI songs where like, you know, they put, I don't know, the VG's and, no, Ray Charles and Van Halen together. And it was unbelievable.

It's like, how is that happening? We all said, no, it'll never be able to do music because that requires a soul and, I don't know. Here's soul music by AI. That should. You're in the creative. of industry, you should be like, oh, that's a problem. I know, I don't know what to think about it. Because, I mean, part of the charm of this stuff is the stories of how it's made and how they

come up with it and how it was inspired. And like, you know, you watch a behind the music documentary about how these things came. If this story is, I typed it into AI. It's like a bad documentary. I mean, this is where I go on the idea of prompting. It still requires somebody to go, what would it sound like if I took that song made it into a 1950 soul song, 1960s soul song. And what would that sound like? Yeah, that's, again, a boring story, though, right? I mean, it's an interesting thought.

It's an interesting 30 seconds of thinking. No, it's incredible. And Eminem's got to love this because I got to believe, I mean, if this stuff catches up, you got to pay him royalties. Who? Who's paying, if it's AI, whoever produced this? Well, maybe. Whoever typed in, I got a buy me out. At the very At least it probably directs people to stream his song a bunch more times. I mean, it's amazing. It's amazing. All right. Stand by last half hour of the Glenn Beck program.

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Cheyenne Grace. Thanks for having me. Yeah, you're welcome, Shire. She loves it. Thanks for letting me visit you. Yeah, yeah. She's always like, she came in and she's like, I'm going to vomit blood. No, I was like, dude, I feel like I'll have a throw.

But it's, you know, you, your mom said, when did you come into town? Tuesday? Tuesday, absolutely on Tuesday. And your mom and I were out doing some stuff, and she said, Shian comes in a couple hours. And I had forgotten that you were flying in that day. And, I mean, you. My stomach just jumped. I was so excited. I miss you so much. Miss you. Yeah. It's been like a good month and a half since I moved.

I know. I know. It's been a time, you know? You were there with Charlie Kirk when? I was, yeah. My friends and I went to the event to go and just kind of see what the environment was like, because we've seen it all over TikTok, like all of his events. And we just wanted to see what the vibe was like. And then things just took a really big turn. And it was really scary and we're getting through it.

And it's difficult. And, you know, all of our hearts are just with Charlie's family and his team. And everyone who was close to him knew him. Anyway, it's just, it's terrible. So many people feel like they knew him, even though they didn't. I mean, because you kind of feel that way, don't you? Did you ever meet Charlie? I met him once.

And he was very kind. But like you watch him, he was so personal and personable and so real that I think a lot of people, even though they never met him, they kind of felt like they were friends. You know, they knew him. Yeah, for sure. That's what a lot of people were saying around like my area was just like, I feel like I lost someone that was close to me. And I feel like social media has a way of doing that. If you follow someone for a long time, you feel like you know them with a lot of like your audience as well. Like I feel like a lot of people are very, oh, I feel like I know them, you know? And that's just, that's the special part.

about, you know, being able to share stuff on social media is you create this special connection, but it's so hard when you lose someone like that. Devastating thing to go through. Yeah. There has to be something better to talk about than that again. I just, it's such a traumatic thing. And what are you up to? Well, hang on before that.

Let me ask you. How are you dealing with my trip today? I'm going to fill in for charge. Yeah, I'm okay. In North Dakota. When, when you told me two weeks ago, it was right after everything happened two, three weeks ago. However, a couple weeks ago. Instantly got very nervous because it was the two days after it happened.

But I was like, are you crazy? And then, you know, I was touching base with some of your team yesterday and just talking about because I got and reached out to talking about, you know, no, you're still nervous. And I was just saying, you know, it doesn't really leave you when stuff like that happens. And when your family is kind of going into that position as well, like, that's scary. And also the fact that I have an event tonight and I'm going to be on stage while you're there is just, you know. It's scary. But, you know, you're going to do great.

You're going to do great. So you, there is the movie that you worked on. your very first time on screen. Can we play a little bit of this? It's a movie called The Best Thing About Christmas. Hey, are you going to one more song? And she plays a young daughter who is a... Aspiring music artist.

Yeah. And she dies pretty quickly. Oh, I'm not supposed to say that. She doesn't die? What are you talking about? But... I don't know. Alan, if you're watching this. So sorry.

You come on my show, you get what you get. Dude. So this is being actually labeled as a musical, which I think is really unfair, because it's not a music. You're not breaking out in song. It's like this. And it's different type. It's not musical sounding music.

It's more of, yeah. It's like this. Yeah. So when is this coming out? So we don't have a final release date yet. because the movie's still in post-production. We're about to get the final film. But if you would like to stay updated with when it's going to come out,

you can go and follow the film at The Best Thing About Christmas Movie on their socials, and then the website is the best to be out Christmas movie.com. I thought you were going to announce today. I think you did too, some real information, but they were going to make an announcement here soon on something that just happened. Yeah. And so I think that's really exciting. Are they going to announce the end of the movie?

Is that how they're going to, is that we're going to do? Like, how much of it is going to give away when they make the announcement? Are they just going to tell the entire? I didn't think they were planning to give it away at all. Oh, really? I think that already covered that. Wow. No, yeah.

Because that's an interesting strategy. That's kind of the whole thing. Yeah, actually. You know, how this family, you know. He's actually Luke's father. But, yeah. That was in the trailer, if I remember right. You're the

You are the worst How do you even have this job? I don't know I really don't know He's really bad at keeping secrets Yes Really bad Can we focus on her for a minute?

No Why do you This always happens You're not invited again Okay all right Last time I checked I was having a pretty good sleep last night And I was like I gotta get up for dad's show And now here I am

So she has been, she's been trying out for shows, you know, professional. Yeah, been trying. But you know what? Getting callbacks. You were going to spend most of your time. Getting rejected. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how you do that.

But. It's hard, you know, but we do it. We do it. But there's a difference between being rejected for a show like that and then not being, and being rejected by like McDonald's. Don't stop. Are we really about to talk about what? What's happening?

Okay. Okay. So I just, so I just moved to you, Tom, right? Okay. And for some reason, I can't get a job to save my life. Really? I have applied. She's like, like, she will take any job.

I will take anything. I don't care. Like, I am flexible. Like, I can do whatever. I can juggle. I don't know. Well, I can't juggle. Well, you're in movies.

You have, you had a best-selling album. No, she will wash the dishes. No, I swear. She'll flip burgers. My dream job right now? Mm-hmm. is to be a barista at Dutch Bros. Dutch Bros.

I want to work at Dutch Bros. So bad. I don't know why. Every single time I'm at the window, I pull up, and they're like, hey, girl. I'm like, hey. And we vibe so on. I'm like, I need to work there. So if Dutch Bros is listening.

The thing rejected you at two locations. Two locations. I've applied for like 10 jobs. I've gotten no responses. But for some reason, I'm like, I can sing. I can dance. Wait, hire me, please. Thanks.

Is it possible that they see your last name and then it's like... No, she doesn't... No, I have to use it. Well, actually, no, I have to use my legal. See, that's the problem. That's the problem. Everywhere else she's like, you know, she's... I think you were like six and you're like, I'm not using your name, dad.

I'm not using it because I know what that's going to do for my career. This is what happens. People ask me what I do. I say I work at Dutch bros. That's what I say. No, I'm literally like, that's my cover. I'm like, I don't know, I'm a barista. No, yeah.

The only place that has actually... reached out to me to reject me is Starbucks. And I'm like, oh, that's nice. That's very nice. Yeah, but I was like, you're rejecting me? Really? I'm like, I'm like, you're a number one fan. Well, we will give me you the address again of where people can follow the movie.

So if you want to follow up on the movie, their website is the best thing about Christmas movie.com. And then you can find all of their socials on Facebook and Instagram at the best thing about Christmas movie. It's a really uplifting. It's kind of, it's kind of, it's kind of, tell us more about the movie. Yeah.

I want to know more. And please, please spoil more. It's kind of like a wonderful life that you enjoy the movie, but it's such a great message. Oh, cool. It's really a great. That was an amazing clip. I feel like there's definitely the risk of, uh, in one of those scenes, because it, for people who couldn't see it, you're on stage like a bar and you're, you're nervous and you're,

you're, you're trying to say. There's definitely potential for that scene to look cheesy and sound cheesy. It didn't, though. That was, that was great. That's actually the first scene that I filmed when I stepped on set. They were like, they were like, all right. Day one, walk on the set. First time, never acting, no film experience, nothing.

They were like, day one is our biggest day. And I was like, barf. And so I go on and those are like real nerves because I'm singing in front of like probably 50 people that I have never met. And I'm like, I hope you like this. And they're all actors and everybody else. And they're like, go ahead, show us what you got. Yeah, well, this is the same thing they did with, in Rocky 4 when Ivan Drago comes out from under the ground. And he had never been in front of these people.

There's a giant crowd there going crazy. It's supposed to be a Vegas boxing match. So you may be the next Dolf Lundgren. Wow. Wow. The guns are out. All right. Thanks, Shia.

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You never know where that thing's been. More Glenn Beck. In a Jeff. If Dutch bros, Paul's. Put them right through. I mean, I have a daughter who wants to work. She's such a hard worker. She is so good.

And she's always the one that like seeks out the, you know, the loner and is like, come on. Yeah, let's go. And she wants to work. She doesn't want to live off dad. And I like want to support that. So if you're fan of the show and you work for any of these companies she listed off, like Dutch Bros is her dream, I think.

But she, I mean, she will work her butt off and you'll make me so very happy. Because she's like, I don't want you paying for my rent and stuff. And I'm like, honey, I don't want you either. We agree. We agree. We are sympathetic on that one. And if you're at Dutch Bros. And you see the last name back and you're concerned, like all the milkshakes will get stolen.

That's not like, that's not her. That doesn't, that's like. She won't steal them. Dad has to come and drink them. Yeah, you're talking about doubling your balance sheet here. I don't know. Gloly to drive through all the time. By the way, we were talking earlier about this AI music.

Yeah. And it reminded me that Rolling Stone has released the top 250 songs of the 2000s of this century. Top 250. We are at a quarter century. Yeah, quarter century. Oh, my gosh. I know. It seems impossible.

Yeah, it does. And I was kind of shocked at how many of them I had never heard of in my entire life. and I you realize like first of all obviously getting very old and you realize that this is it's culture's passing me by no you know not only that we are getting old but do you remember back in the 90s we would go will we even be alive by 2030 how old will we be I seem like so far away and it still does so let's see how many we know so I let me start at number 11 because he's been in the news lately bad bunny bad bunny number 11 Ningo flow Nango flow and Jowell and Jowell and Randy.

I don't know any of those. The song is Safera. Oh, that's one song. S-A-F-A-E-R-A? There you go. I assume, again, we're talking in different language. Shianne in here. She probably would know all this.

Frank Ocean at number 10 with thinking about you. Oh, thinking about you. Not about you. And by the way, also not thinking. Thinking. Thinking about you. Uh-huh.

Number nine, this one 100% deserves to be in this list. And I fully mean this and back it. I totally do. Britney Spears toxic. One of the greatest songs of all time. Number nine in the 2000s. It's maybe the one Britney Spears that I have blocked out. I don't remember that one.

You're kidding me. It's one of the greatest songs of all time. Totally deserves to be there. Number eight, radio tech, idiotech, which. Uh, yeah. Radiohead. Never. I certainly know.

Radiohead? What did I say? Radiohead. Yeah. Radiohead. Okay. Radio tech. Sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. backwards. I don't really even remember that song in particular, but whatever.

Number seven, Kendrick Lamar, all right. Ooh. Huge fan of that. One of the best? Number six. That's the best we can do. That is from 2015. Number six from 2010. Robin, dancing on my own. Ooh, and she was. Number six. Number five, you may have heard of her, Taylor Swift, all too well from 2012.

But I can't place that. I'm sure I've heard it because my daughter listens to her constantly. You could play Taylor Swift all day long, and I would not reckon. Something familiar there. Nope. Not at all. And I'm happy to say, I have not missed that part of my life. Really?

I'm not going to look back and go, I should have listened to more Taylor Swift. Number four, and I think this deserves to be in this conversation, the White Stripes Seven Nation Army. I mean, it's constantly played at every sporting event. And, you know, that's why I don't know it. You definitely know that song. 100% know that song. Number three, Beyonce, featuring Jay-Z Crazy in Love from 2003. Number two, the yeah, yeah, yeah's, and their hit, Maps.

Ah. If you remember that. Why have Google Maps? Is that? It's the same same exact song. Yeah, same exact song. And number one, you've heard the song. the next available opportunity, turn around.

That's my favorite part of maps. Really? Yeah. Okay. That is, yeah, yeah. It's just a GPS voice. It's just a GPS voice. It's actually singing in.

Number one, the number one song. Of the last 25 years. 25 years. Missy Elliott, get your freak on. Which is number one. This list is going to be dug up in a thousand years. And they're going to go, do we need to dig any further? This is why their society collapsed.

Re-Berry it again. Stop digging. Start burying. Excuse me. Historians, we have the answer. We know what happened to their civilization. We know what happened to their civilization.