The Glenn Beck Program - Not American? | Guests: Merril Hoge & Dr. Peter Cummings | 11/27/18
Episode Date: November 27, 2018Hour 1 Economic trouble ahead...the Trade War has just begun and we are starting to see some major casualties?...General Motors to lay of thousands...President Trump's very progressive actions...'th...is is not American, stop with the tariffs'? ...Americans are not buying American cars...so now what?...'retool'?...the automobile as we know it, will be changing? ...Tampa Bay Beck love? ...the treasonous media?...MSNBC stunned by their own reporting?...Great Idea: Pat proposes a celebrity/migrant adoption plan? Hour 2 Peace, Love and Migrants?...targeting babies with tear gas...avoid the media's easy to swallow outrage pill(s)?...George Soros paws are all over this?...only caring when it counts (for ourselves)? ...Housing market slow down...hitting Texas as we speak ...What's up with Bitcoin?...bogus for bitcoin?...experts still standing by their predictions? ...Be on the look out for Giant cows? Hour 3 'Brainwashed: The Bad Science Behind CTE and the Plot to Destroy Football"...in studio with former NFL player Merril Hoge and Dr, Peter Cummings, Board Certified Forensic Neurologist...Hoge testified at a congressional hearing on football head injuries in 2009 and was appointed to the NFL Mild Traumatic Brain Injury Committee in 2010?...learning truth means digging deep for all the facts...settling with unsettled science...the art of addressing 'head traumas'?...results more shocking then initially thought? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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And for anybody who has been listening to me for a long time,
you hopefully remember, you know, what that felt like and what we don't want to face
again.
We are headed toward real economic trouble.
And we have a week.
window of time to accomplish an awful lot of things. Let's start with tariffageddon here. It's not going
away. The tariffs, I don't know what this is, but it's not helpful. We have been so fixated on
the never-ending stream of breaking news that we are not seeing now the major economic storm that is
coming, and it is already over the horizon. We are in a trade war, and I don't think we've begun to
see the full effects of the fallout yet. This war has just started. The bombs have barely begun
to drop, and we're about to start seeing the casualties. And unfortunately, we are scrambling
more fighters. Let's not forget what tariffs really are, America. They are not hurting
or punishing the Chinese government. They're not. They're not hurting or punishing.
the European Union or Canada.
They are hurting you.
Because tariffs actually would be more aptly described with another T word, and that is tax.
It is a tax on you.
And there is nothing conservative about this policy.
This is about as progressive and big government as you get.
Ronald Reagan said it best.
Quote, government's view of the economy would be summed up in a few short.
short phrases. If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving,
subsidize it. When the Trump administration's tariffs hurt America's farmers, he subsidized
with $12 billion in handouts. This is not the American way. They never needed a handout before this
ridiculous trade war began. Now they're being forced to live off the government, to rely
on the government to continue their own business? There is nothing conservative about any of this.
Now, according to the Tax Foundation, this trade war will result in nearly 300,000 jobs lost.
Yesterday, General Motors, the nation's largest car company, announced dramatic downsizing,
halting production at multiple plants and closing them in the U.S. in Canada.
Over 8,000 white-collar jobs are being eliminated.
More than 6,000 factory jobs gone.
Over 14,000 people in total will lose their livelihoods.
Oh, and did I mention that back in July, GM announced that the administration's trade war would cost the company $1 billion.
Now let's stick with American cars for just a second.
News from Tesla came out this morning.
they have announced their sales in China have fallen 70%.
Why?
Because we're in a trade war.
And China is taxing the crap out of everything American.
70% market share in the world's largest emerging market.
Are we insane?
Elon Musk said he's now weeks away.
just a few weeks away of bad sales before they close the doors.
Apple also had its stock in free fall 20% over the last three months.
As of this morning, they lost another 2%.
Why?
Because the president told the Wall Street Journal that he's considering slapping a tariff on iPhones.
If you want to buy an iPhone, you might want to buy one right now,
because you may not be able to afford one soon.
President said we can all afford an extra 10% on our iPhone.
No, Mr. President, we can't.
Tariffs as they stand right now are bad,
but it looks like they're going to go even higher.
But right now, they're costing Americans over $40 billion.
That is more money than Obamacare's tax bill of $34 billion.
That is $915 for every American, $2,400 per household.
And if the tariffs stay in place, it will cost you $17,300 by 2030.
Tariffs are a tax, and they are a tax on you.
Americans are already starting to lose their jobs.
Please, Mr. President, please stop with the tariff.
The workers of America are begging you. Stop with the tariffs.
It's Tuesday, November 27th.
You're listening to the Glembeck program.
It's only going to get worse with layoffs.
There's a couple of things that are going on right now.
If you look the top-selling sedans in America, the Camry, the Honda Civic, the Honda Accord,
Toyota Corolla.
the Nissan Ultima, the Centra, and they're all Japanese.
Americans are not buying sedans anymore from GM and from American car companies.
So what are they going to do?
The president says, you have to keep these jobs here.
You better open those plants back up.
Since when do we want the federal government mandating what companies do?
We don't want that.
So we have a problem that nobody is buying American sedans anymore.
Okay, so the car companies do what they should do, and that is retool.
Let's make sure we're just, we're going to concentrate on trucks and SUVs because that's what we sell.
Okay, sounds like a good business plan.
If I have stock in GM, I'm probably okay with this move.
If I'm working at GM, I'm not cool with this move.
But if I want GM to continue, I want them to cut expenses so we don't have to bail them out again or they close their doors.
The problem is the largest shareholder of GM is the labor union.
What are they going to do as a shareholder?
What are they going to do?
So American carmakers can't compete and we're giving us.
up that segment of the market.
Now, more job losses are probably coming and not from necessarily GM, but right now we are
producing 3.4 million vehicles per year than we need.
We are producing too many vehicles.
GM is about one million of that 3.2.
So that means if factories run their most efficient when they're at top performance,
reduce the size of the factories.
Also, these steel tariffs have cost the industry billions of dollars,
roughly $700 million in higher prices at GM alone.
They said a billion dollars, the number is probably closer to $700 billion.
I'm sorry, 700 million.
Ford is also saying they're getting out of the car business.
By 2020, Ford is said they will no longer sell the fiesta, the Taurus, the fusion, or focus in North America.
Only the Mustang and a crossover called Focus Active.
Tesla, he says, within single digit weeks of death, 70% decline of sales in China alone.
the guy who was the CEO of Nissan that merged or tried to make the merger with Renault,
he's now in jail.
Fiat Chrysler struggling, their CEO died.
They never achieved the merger with GM.
Volkswagen has set aside $30 billion to cover costs associated with Dieselgate.
The car companies are not in good shape.
So what's going to happen?
Well, as we told you on this program about a year ago, we had the former chair of the board of GM on.
He said GM is a different company by 2030.
It's not making cars.
It's making fleets.
And you can call them cars.
You can call them pods.
But the car as we know it is going to change over the next 12 years.
And GM is trying to get ahead of the curve.
So now what do we do?
Do we have a government that tells a private industry exactly what they have to do and what they have to make?
Or do we have a private industry making the cuts that they need to make?
Because we always say, why are we bailing these people out?
They're too big to fail.
Well, here they are saying we've got to cut or we're going to hemorrhage to death.
And there'll be nothing left, which would put America back in the state.
seat of we got a bail out GM.
Do you want the government designing cars?
The answer is no.
Do you want the government dictating
how they build them, where they build them,
when they build them, what they buy
to build them? The answer is
no. This is just the beginning.
And the tariffs are not
helping. In fact, they're making
things much, much worse.
I would tend to agree with this.
We've seen tariff rates about double since Trump took office, which is pretty amazing.
I mean, really, you know, this battle had been won.
I mean, even Obama didn't try to really go crazy with.
He did it a couple times.
And again, same thing failed massively.
We're talking $900,000 per job, quote unquote, saved in the tire industry when he tried it with tires.
But we've gone up to 3.2% from 1.6.
So, I mean, we were already ahead.
We already had higher tariffs before.
Before Trump started all this, we had higher tariffs than places like Canada and Australia.
We now have risen all the way up to about where China is.
And the proposals where he wants to go, this next level of tariffs with China would put us above Mexico,
more protectionists than Mexico.
And the policies he's proposed, if implemented, would bring us up higher than every other industrialized nation in the world.
The only one really, if you want to talk about major nations that would even be competitive with us,
the only ones even close to us would be Pakistan.
Everything else were way, way above.
The only countries that are really ahead of us are places like Bermuda and the Bahamas, isolated sort of island nations that have very specific circumstances.
But again, these are bad policies.
China also has much higher taxes in the United States.
We don't want to chase their tax rates.
It is a, again, like the president's done a lot of good things, and we've brought them up a million times.
the economy has been helped by some of these policies,
this is the reverse of it.
This is one of those times that if you support the president,
you need to beg him to get off tariffs.
You need to rise up and beg him to get off of tariffs.
He believes this to the core of his being.
It's the only thing I thought he would implement.
I didn't think he would do all of the good things that he had done.
I knew he would do this.
because this is consistent through his life.
He believes in tariffs.
Yeah.
I mean, everyone knows that Trump is, you know, before he got, before this last run,
he had bounced back and forth between parties and things like that.
He never changed this position, though.
Never.
He was always very consistent on his belief that, you know, protectionist policies when it
comes to trade are a good idea.
Because he only sees, he only sees winning and losing.
He only sees scores.
And so when you look at the, you look at the quote,
trade imbalance, he sees that as a score. We're losing. But it's not a score. It's not.
It's not a bad thing. And if you're trying to correct that, I advise him to look at the scoreboard,
because the score, if you're scoring it the way he does, is getting worse. Yeah, the trade imbalance is
increasing through this time. And by the way, that is a function of his success. Donald Trump's
economic policies, along with the capitalist economy in general, has been doing well.
When the United States economy does well, we have a higher trade imbalance that goes back decades.
Look, the only time we've decreased in any significant way our trade imbalance over the past
30 years was the economic crisis of 2008.
Our trade imbalance went all the way, almost all the way back to zero.
Do we want to replicate that policy?
If you look at the chart of our trade imbalance and you flip it upside down, it almost exactly
matches the state of the economy.
When it's exact reverse to each other, when tariffs, or when trade imbalance gets quote
unquote worse, we have a better economy. And when the trade imbalance gets quote unquote
better, we have a worse economy. This is, this is, I mean, it's, it's, it's an unfortunate
part of his belief system. I mean, I know he seems to really understand taxes when it comes
to the economy in general, the United States. The same things are in play when you
talk about globally. We're getting hit with these tax increases. It's hurting the economy.
And I mean, you go through and look, look at the numbers. They're still small enough that this
doesn't have to destroy what he's accomplished. But if he keeps going down this road, it will destroy
it. It's exponential when it comes to the effect. It was a little terrifying what he said yesterday
about how hard he's going to hit China. And that will mean, you know, 10 to 20 percent on
Apple products.
This is just a disaster.
You got to stop.
And he was talking about it being a negotiating tactic.
He got his NAFTA renegotiation and kept all those tariffs on anyway.
He just really believes this.
And I don't know what's going to dissuade him of it.
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Great story in the Tampa Bay Times today about you.
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Glenn Beck was set to swim with sharks.
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And at the time, that's exactly what Glembeck was.
A talk radio host still new to Tampa Bay about to dive into a tank at the Florida Aquarium
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So stupid.
What the heck is wrong with me?
He remembers thinking, what am I doing?
Because I don't like swimming.
I don't like water and I certainly don't like sharks.
Then four days before his dive, two planes crashed into the World Trade Center.
Do you remember that?
And this is amazing.
This brings back a lot of memories.
and everything changed for Glenn Beck, for America,
and especially for Glenn Beck's America.
It's true.
I mean, gosh, imagine if we could have just got you in there with the sharks,
how much better everyone's life could have been.
Could have been all over.
Yeah.
We did that because remember at the time,
shark attacks were the big news in Florida.
And we're like, no, sharks are not attacking at a higher rate.
This is just media hype.
It's one of these stories every year.
It's something like this.
Remember it was clowns a couple years ago?
Remember, the clowns scare?
Yeah. And so we were going to do this. And it was a fundraiser for something. And you could, you could basically bet on how many minutes I would stay in the tank with sharks. And I remember wanting to throw up for like two weeks beforehand. I'm like, I barely swim. I don't like water at all.
You don't seem like you'd be graceful in water. I'm not. That's a prediction. Have you ever been around sharks?
No.
I was in, I don't know, the Bahamas or someplace, and you can actually swim with sharks, but they're nurse sharks.
Now, nurse sharks could break your fingers, break your hand.
They don't have sharp teeth.
They kind of, they suck in their food.
Okay.
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So they're not dangerous.
They're just sharks.
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and I went I went scuba diving and was swimming and I was down with somebody.
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They are.
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You know what I mean?
In the air.
And all of a sudden these things start coming towards you and you realize there's no way I could get away from this.
I mean, I'm toast.
I am at the bottom of the food chain now.
It's a really weird experience.
Yeah, and you have no way of doing anything.
No.
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Pat Gray is joining us.
I wanted to share this guys with you.
I got this in from my sister who saw this on a Glenn Beck group page.
It said, hello all.
I live in South Carolina.
And I live with my mom who has osteoporosis.
My mom listens to Glenn and Pat and Stu.
The boys get her through.
the life that she's currently living,
which has been pretty hard.
She has spinal fractures,
and she has lost four inches in height.
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Holy cow.
She had a very successful cleaning business.
She's always worked hard until she broke her elbow,
and this isn't helping her mood at all.
She sits in the house now,
and she listens to Pat every morning when he comes on,
and then stays glued to the TV watching Glenn.
She says, like the Messiah, which I don't think is blasphemous or really inaccurate at all.
No.
If somebody could please get this post to him, leave a comment from her.
She's going through a very hard time right now.
But if you guys would reply, I know it would make her feel a lot better.
Her name is Catherine.
Catherine, we're thinking about you.
I got this a couple of days ago.
We've been praying for you.
and you and your daughter are cherished listeners of ours.
So thank you.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for everything.
Pat Gray, welcome to the program.
How are you?
I'm good.
Real quick, I want to preview something you had on your show today.
We have coming up in hour number three.
I don't even know what this is because it's all about sports.
Have you seen the movie concussion?
Yeah, yeah.
No, I haven't seen it, but I know it.
Okay.
Yeah, really, I mean, I enjoyed the movie.
however it's a pretty one-sided telling of the concussion CTE story in the NFL and they blame the NFL for not doing what they should.
Meryl, Merrill Hodge, who was a running back for the Pittsburgh Steelers, he had to retire early because of concussions.
And you see the title of the book, Brainwashed, the bad science behind CTE and the plot to destroy football.
It's really fascinating.
And he's got a really good pathologist with him who helped him.
who helped him write.
So they debunking this?
Yeah.
Really.
And you were convinced?
They don't disagree that it's a thing.
They're just saying it's been blown way out of proportion.
Okay.
And that you don't know, because hundreds of people,
over 100 people who are not in sports,
certainly not in football,
like one-year-olds to six-year-olds have been diagnosed with CTE post, you know, after death.
Because that's the only time you can actually,
you have to open up the brain to look at it.
So you remember when I went in for studies when they were trying to figure out what was wrong with me
and one of the things the doctors came in and said,
how many times have you been hit in the head?
What are you, you know, what are you doing?
You've been in severe car accidents.
And I'm like, no.
Oh, yeah, because your brain looked like it was concussed a lot.
And I'm like nothing.
So, I mean, I don't, I mean, I don't know.
After I'm dead, you should pick through my brain.
Right.
And see if you have CTE, I wouldn't be a business.
surprised. All right. So that's coming up in hour number three of this broadcast today. You don't want
to miss that. Super interesting. You don't. So what is what is on is the border or is it the jobs or the
tariffs? What is on your mind today? The border is always on my mind. I think it's just an amazing
situation that we're lied to every day in the media about it. And they just don't care. I think the
media borders on treason. I think it's such a problem. So wait a minute, wait, wait, wait.
You were a guy who said, I don't like the, I don't like the rhetoric of the press is an enemy of people.
No, I don't.
But you're now kind of saying that?
He said bordering.
He didn't say.
He said it across the border.
I mean, they are doing.
He's climbing the fence of that border.
He's climbing the fence of that border.
Yes.
They are doing everything they can to deny reality.
I know.
It's amazing.
Everything they can.
And to show, it's amazing.
Did you guys have the reporter from MSNM?
Yeah, let's play this real quick.
Here's the unreal.
Here's the, I tweeted out last night.
This would be the last time you see this reporter on NBC.
Listen to what he said.
Because some people look at these images and they listen to the president who says it's not
women and children.
It's stone cold criminals.
So my first question is, you're in that tent camp.
Besides that family, give us the profile of who is there mostly and what are they looking for.
You're going to see a lot of families here, a lot of women and children.
But the truth is the majority of the people that are part of this caravan, especially outside,
if we can make our way all the way over there, we'll show you the majority of them are men.
So when this becomes a polarized political issue in the United States, you have people on one side that point and say there are women and children here, and that is true.
And then there are others who point and say these are men that are trying to cross the border.
And that's true, too.
from what we've seen the majority are actually men
and some of these men have not articulated that need for asylum
instead they have talked about going to the United States
for a better life and to find work
it's amazing he actually said it
three times yeah that the majority are men
now I don't think anybody has ever denied that some
children women and children are there I've never denied
I've never denied it either the vast majority however
are men yeah and and it
you hear how they are they these men are were pushing the women and children to the front
on the on the on the storming of the the gates yes they were actually pushing the women and
children it's exactly what happens with hesbalah and and uh and uh what's the moss
on the israeli border sure is exactly the same thing and the photo that you continually see
When they rushed the border like that and then had tear gas canisters fired out of them was a woman with two children, one on either side, both in diapers.
They're five years old, but for whatever reason they're in diapers.
And that's the image that everybody shows to make you think, oh my gosh, they're just firing tear gas randomly at women and children.
Well, every other person, if you look in the background is a man.
Gee, I can't believe the media found the woman with the children to take the picture of what a bad luck.
streak where they wouldn't capture the whole story
with their picture. It's so dishonest.
And I think it's hurtful to the country.
All of it is. Have you seen the, have you seen
any coverage on the
protests in Tijuana?
How about that?
What Luis Alexis Mendoza
a Mexican said
about these people. Here's what he, here's what
he shouted. And a
reporter actually from the Los Angeles Times
heard him say, this is an invasion.
I'd love that. We demand
respect. We
demand that our laws be followed.
Huh?
Wait, what?
The mayor of Tijuana has been wearing a Make Tijuana Great Again hat.
Try this on for a side.
Listen, this is Patricia Reyes.
She's a 62-year-old Mexican protester.
She said, we want the caravan to go.
They're invading us.
They should have come to Mexico correctly, legally.
But they came in like animals.
This is a Mexican resident.
The demonstrators held signs, no illegals, no to the invasion.
Amazing.
Have you seen any of this on TV?
No, they don't show it.
They do not show it.
The mayor said Tijuana is a place that welcomes anyone, but you have to have papers.
You must identify yourself.
Wait, you want to, your sovereignty respected?
Right.
I don't understand.
We work hard in Tijuana.
We don't get handouts.
The government shouldn't be giving these things to migrants when there are plenty of Mexicans.
in a difficult position.
Much of the protesters said the migrants should be detained and deported.
The mayor also said,
I would dare say that not all of them are migrants.
Sure, there are some good people in the caravan,
but there are many that are bad.
What a hater.
What a xenophobe.
He then said human rights are only for upstanding humans.
I don't know. That's true.
That's not true.
Christian Mendez, a Honduran, traveling with his girlfriend, said, I'm not sure what we're going to do.
We all know we want to request asylum, but we have heard about the list.
We don't know how long it's going to take.
We don't know how long there will be food for us to eat.
The Tijuana mayor also said Tijuana is a city of immigrants.
But we don't want them in this way.
Huh.
So you want them to?
come legally, perhaps. Sure.
That's weird. He said it was different with the Haitians.
They carried papers. They were in order. It wasn't a horde.
Pardon the expression.
An invasion. Pardoned. You've been pardoned.
It's truly amazing. If you were, for instance, I about lost my mind yesterday with Ms.
Cortez and her Holocaust comparisons. Oh my. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.
And then Rihanna calling it terrorism because we fired canisters of tear gas.
Okay.
Everybody who feels that way should have to accept two dozen of these migrants into their home permanently.
That's what they're asking America to do.
Here's what I think is.
It's our home.
Here's what I think is very, very reasonable.
You don't think two dozen is reasonable?
No, not necessarily.
She's got an 11,000 square foot house.
Here's what I would be happy with.
We just go back into your Twitter.
feed and we find all of the times that you were outraged when the Obama administration was tear-gassing
people on the border.
Oh, can't find it?
Shut up.
You know, go back in your Twitter feed when you were outraged that President Obama put people in cages.
Can't find it?
Shut up.
I am clear I was against that when it was happening.
I was talking about it.
To the point where we went down to the border and brought the kids Christmas presents.
Yeah, right.
And said, go home now.
go home.
I mean,
the other thing is,
I cannot take,
I cannot take the lecturing from the left
on the Jews and the,
oh man.
And the St. Louis that was turned away.
Excuse me.
They were going to an extermination camp.
That's what fate had in store for them.
If you want to talk to me about asylum,
then tell me that you have been,
leading the charge for the Christians and the Uzidis who are being exterminated and enslaved.
Oh, but nobody can talk about having helped those people.
No, right.
Well, yeah, we can.
They, they don't, they've never said anything about that's, that's an actual refugee.
How about Asia Beebe?
Are you talking about bringing her in?
because she is currently in hiding in her own country because she will not say,
I reject my faith and I accept Islam.
Nobody's taking her.
She's being passed around from country to country and nobody's taking her.
Where are you on that?
If you have said yes to those two things and you're on record,
well, then let's talk about the immigration status of these people because I know you're an honest broker.
No one in the media is an honest broker on this.
No one.
And obviously, Pat's two dozen people for Rihanna to take in is a little ridiculous.
I would advocate one per thousand square feet of your home.
Okay.
So for 11 for her.
She would take in 11.
See, it's not 12.
It's not twice ridiculous.
You know, two dozen.
You're right.
Stu, I was a little silly.
11.
Can we come to a common sense ground in the middle?
11.
We're not where Rihanna just accepts 11 migrants.
Yes.
Thanks, Pat.
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Welcome to the program.
So glad you're here.
We're going to take the media part piece by piece on the Mexican thing coming up in just a few minutes.
Also, also tonight, we're going to provide some clear evidence of who is now funding and who is now behind some of this.
We've found it through a couple of sources.
but we were interested to find that even the New York Times reported on this today,
although they didn't mention any connection to George Soros, strangely enough,
but they did provide us with the organizing NGO.
Yeah, which is pretty interesting.
We'll have all of that tonight at 5 o'clock only on the blaze.
Yeah, you won't be getting to end all the background, all the history,
all of this with the caravan.
Tonight is the show to watch.
This is all of it.
This is the show that I think shows you who has credibility.
Because we are absolutely consistent on all of it, on all of it.
We never said that George Soros was involved in this.
We said it doesn't appear to be.
We don't have any evidence of it.
However, once they hit Mexico City, these organizations have said that they're going to get involved and we'll look for that.
Well, we did.
There they are.
They're now the organizing committee, and it's George Soros money.
We're going to take it all apart for you tonight at five,
and we're going to give a quick little preview of it coming up in just a second and next hour.
I made the mistake of watching CNN a little bit this morning,
and they are still treating the migrant caravan as if it's this fever dream of the president.
It's like the headline in the New York Times today in the story you're talking about,
no clear end to chaos as migrants confront U.S. border.
And it goes through and talks about how there's not,
caravan there. Of course not. There are four caravans on their way there with as many as 10,000
total members. And it goes through the details of this. It is not a fever dream. It's not some crazy
thing. It obviously wasn't an election issue. We were past the election. And we're still,
we're still talking about it because it was a real issue before. It was a real issue before Donald
Trump. It was a real issue now. It's been a real issue this entire time. Conservatives have cared
about it the entire time. We've been consistent on it. And the, and the fact that you
want to come out here and just make it seem like this is some crazy, you know,
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You're denying reality. You're denying reality. And we'll see how far down the rabbit hole.
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Well, no one was hurt on Sunday by the tyranny of the tear gas from the U.S.
Border Patrol agents against the helpless Central American babies that were just there.
We don't know, but we don't know how they got there.
We don't know why they were five and still in diapers, but it happened.
They were just innocently trying to break through the border fence.
That's all they were trying to do.
No injuries were reported, but we have the next best thing.
We have photos, but write headlines for us.
Here's a couple of samples for you.
Photograph of children in diapers fleeing tear gas at border sparks anger.
Or this.
These children are barefoot in diapers choking on tear gas.
Yes, that's the evil U.S.
empire. The Israel of the Americas, dare I say it? If we can't catch mothers and children to lock
them up in cages, well, then we just have to do all we can to tear gas them. At least that's the
convenient narrative when you don't care about reporting on the complicated truth of the situation.
And actually, media, it ain't that complicated. You have an agenda. It was just peace-loving
migrants having a peaceful protest against the mean old bully uncle Sam who dares to enforce his
own laws about entering the country. How dare him? So do we target babies with your guess or was
there another underreported reality? Well, here is the chief U.S. patrol agent Rodney Scott. He was
there. Here's what he said. I kind of challenged that this was a peaceful protest or the majority of these
people were claiming asylum. We ended up making about 42 arrests. Only eight of those were
females and there were only a few children involved. The vast majority of the people were dealing
with are adult males. Similar to what we saw, the first wave of the caravan that came up about a
week or so ago, the group immediately started throwing rocks, a debris at our agents, taunting the
agents once our agents were assaulted. And the numbers started growing. We had two or three
agents at a time initially facing hundreds of people at a time.
They deployed tear gas to protect themselves and to protect the border.
Yeah, it doesn't really click with the Trump tear gassing baby story, does it?
I mean, there are photos.
Well, there is a photo.
What have I told you this whole border rushing incident wasn't really all that unique?
What have I told you that, hmm, the gas, the tear gassing, you know, that's not that unique.
in fact, exactly five years ago on Sunday, November 25th, five years ago,
there were some migrants that rushed the border fence at the same crossing point.
Those migrants also threw rocks and bottles at U.S. border agents under Barack Obama.
Those agents also responded by firing pepper spray back at the mob.
Oh, wait a minute.
And that was for 100.
This was for a thousand.
Yeah, there were no camera.
cameras there, no embedded reporters, no sackcloth and ashes headlines. There are pictures. We have
them. Nobody's been interested in seeing them. In fact, nobody's still interested in seeing them
in the mainstream media. There's no concern about then-President Obama allowing such a barbaric
response to innocent asylum seekers. Well, it's just that our priorities have changed since then,
I guess. I wonder how that happened.
The photos, and of course, focus on mothers and children is an attempt by the media to distill a very complex situation into an easy-to-swallow outrage pill.
Don't take it because we can tell you the facts.
The media will not.
They could, but they will not.
So let's look into this just a little deeper, shall we?
It's Tuesday.
November 27th.
You're listening to the Glembach program.
Okay, I just want to hit a couple of things.
This is what the media has said.
This is what the media claimed.
This is what the media is still claiming.
And let me just take it piece by piece.
First of all, the tear gas.
We just gave you that.
This is exactly the cages.
Everybody was outraged that Donald Trump had cages.
Well, no, they were built by the Obama administration.
In fact, Obama,
had twice as many children in cages than Donald Trump did.
He was actually reducing the number from its high under Barack Obama.
Same thing with the gassing.
We have pictures.
Hmm.
That was only for 100 people.
Wow.
If they were out of control with a thousand,
they were 10 times out of control with 100.
I mean, that's crazy.
They only had 100 back in Obama and he just threw the tear gas.
We have to be a welcoming country because we are a welcoming and they are not going to come and push the fences down or climb the walls.
Remember Jim Acosta said, Mr. President, you showed in your campaign video of protesters climbing walls and pushing down fences and that was racist.
No, Jim, that wasn't.
That was this group of people entering Mexico.
That's what that was.
President never said that.
But that's what that was.
Well, then Jim Acosta says, well, but they're hundreds and hundreds of miles away.
They're probably not even going to make it.
Well, they did.
Shockingly, how did they get here so fast?
Because you were right, they were hundreds and hundreds of miles away.
And many of them, as you pointed out, were barefoot.
Wow, barefoot.
And you made it weeks and weeks and weeks in advance.
You must be superhuman or have some assistance from someone.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
These are just good people.
They're not going to be climbing the walls.
Yes, well, they did.
They're not going to be trying to storm the gates.
Well, yes, they just did.
They're not invaders when you're a racist for even saying that.
Well, wait a minute.
That's what Mexicans who were in the streets in Mexico yesterday protesting, protesting their government's response to the migrants, which is just this,
you're going to stay here until the Americans process you.
They don't like that.
They don't like that at all.
Why should we be paying for these people?
They didn't come in peacefully.
They didn't come in the right way.
Well, wait a minute.
So are you, are the Mexicans racist against other Hispanics?
Or are they just making a point of law and order?
Well, they're only talking about this because of the election.
That's what CNN said before the election.
Well, we're talking about it now.
And so what election are we playing for?
Wrong again.
No Soros connection.
You're an anti-Semite if you even bring up Soros' name.
Well, I don't know.
You might be an anti-Semite if you like Soros or don't like Soros.
Talking about Soros does not make you an anti-Semite, either good or bad.
Anti-Semitism is hating Jews.
That's what that's all about.
I don't hate Jews.
You know, I have this really weird thing.
I think you should get to know people and judge them on the
content of their character, then you can hate them for real legitimate reasons.
Why would you just lump everybody in?
This is not a difficult distinction.
If you hate Jews because they're Jews, you're an anti-Semite.
If you hate one specific Jew because of his actions unrelated to him being Jewish or as he
seems to claim now an atheist, then you're not a Jewish.
You're not an anti-Semite.
Okay, so here's the thing.
we could have told you that George Soros was behind this whole thing.
We could have.
We didn't.
In fact, we said there's no evidence that we can find any evidence that George Soros is involved.
Now, you could assume because George Soros himself wrote in a Wall Street Journal piece,
an op-ed piece that he was going to spend $500 million on migrant.
issues. $500 million. Okay, well, maybe he was talking just solely about the European migrants. Maybe that was it.
But you could have assumed that some of it was going to go to the migrants here, but we didn't. You could
assume that he or his organizations would be funding this based on the fact that they finance the NGOs that
organized the April caravan. But we didn't assume. We said no evidence that those people are
involved at this time. However, we have heard that once they reach Mexico, if they reach Mexico,
then this organization will step in. But that is just what we've heard. They have not stepped in.
Well, today it's interesting that you open up the New York Times, and the New York Times is quoting the organizing organization, the NGO.
My gosh, it's the same NGO that was not the organizing NGO at the beginning, but is now the organizing NGO, and it's the same one that organized the rally, the caravan in April.
funded by George Soros.
You won't find the George Soros connection in the New York Times because they're all scared
to death of him.
But they do point out that they were the ones who organized the caravan last spring.
Yeah, they do point that out.
All they don't do is just say, and where do you get a lot of your financing?
Oh, George Soros organizations.
Okay.
Then we get to these.
We have to be a welcoming country.
especially for women and children.
Okay.
I like consistency.
I like consistency of thought.
Chaos is not a way to run a country, not a way to run a life.
Consistency of thought.
If one of your thoughts is inconsistent with another one of your thoughts,
one of them is wrong.
Or you are deciding to live in conflict.
conflict. Okay? Because they should all come together. Sometimes they don't, i.e., quantum mechanics.
We have to live in that state of, I don't know. It doesn't seem like it would make sense because it violates all the things we thought, but we don't know.
I can handle that kind of chaos because you're still searching for the answer.
Not when you have the answer.
For instance, we must take in women and children who are persecuted.
Really? Okay.
I believe that.
But do you?
Because if you do believe that today, could you please show me your Twitter account
where you were talking about the women and children who are Christian,
and Yazidis who have been crucified, tortured, raped up to 20 times a day.
Can you please show me where you said we must take these people in?
Because the Nazarene Fund has been saying that for a while.
We have thousands of people that have gone to other countries, including Australia.
Australia has been an amazing country.
You know how many the United States has taken?
One.
One.
These people face death, constant rape, slavery, beheadings.
We've taken one.
When Acosio Cortez said yesterday, oh, this is like the Jews.
No, it's not.
No, the Christians.
The Christians, that's like the Jews.
That's like the Jews, the Christians in the Middle East.
And you're turning them away.
You want another example?
How about the Uyghurs?
Remember the Uyghurs that we turned over?
to China. We turned them over to China. They were facing execution. We don't have to make this
about, we don't have to make this just about Christians or Uzidis or atheists. Let's make this
about Muslims. Can you show me your tweet and your Twitter feed where you are standing up to China
and helping expose the one million Muslims that have been rounded up in China merely for being
Muslim. If you can show me your Twitter feed, I can have an honest conversation with you,
because I'll show you mine. But if you only care about women and children today, if you're
only caring about the migrants and the oppressed and the, oh, the huddled masses yearning to
breathe free, today, you have no credibility. You have an agenda. You have an agenda. If you
really cared about them, we'd see that action through your own words and
works over a long period of time. Now everybody can change. So if you want to join us with the
Nazarene Fund today, you can because those people are enslaved. Inslave. We're breaking them out.
We have a guy today. You want to talk about Central America and South America? We have a guy
today that broke up a sex trafficking slavery operation. He is testifying in this
country wearing a bulletproof vest on the airplane all week until he gets off.
He has to testify against this ring.
They are very, very powerful.
Please pray for him.
He could lose his life because he was freeing slaves in countries like Honduras.
If you would like to have some credibility, join us because we're,
freeing those people.
You have no credibility.
You only have
a political agenda.
Well, they're looking for asylum.
No. According to NBC's reporter,
no, no, many of them are not.
In fact, most of them are not.
According to
the border patrol,
no, all they have to do is come to the border,
raise their hands and say, we need asylum.
that's what you have to do to get asylum.
You know who tells you that you don't have to get asylum,
that you can't do that and get asylum here in America?
You know who says that?
Drug dealers.
The cartels that are making money on being human mules.
The people who are making money smuggling people across our border.
They're the ones that tell people,
oh, no, you can't just cross the border and say you want asylum.
They're the ones.
oh, well, and the media.
Oh, and the left.
And all of the organizers for the left.
They're the ones saying that to people.
The truth is, all you have to do is come with your arms raised up and say,
I need asylum.
And you will be processed.
And I'm sorry that there is a process.
But the New York Times headline says it all.
Today, quote, no clear end to chaos.
as migrants confront U.S. border.
What have I told you for the last seven years would be the word that you need to look for?
And you'll know where to stand on the issue when you see this word because it is the author of everything that is happening trying to destroy the West.
The word is chaos.
Chaos.
Anything that adds to chaos is not good.
Thank you, New York Times.
No clear end to chaos as migrants confront the U.S. border.
For anyone who is in doubt, chaos.
That is the objective of everyone who is trying to take the West apart.
Create chaos.
It's all in their own words.
You didn't know that?
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Except not at all.
We're going to go through that coming up in just a second.
Also, I want to talk to you about looking for a lighthouse in these times and what that means
and how you can identify a lighthouse for a safe harbor because things are going to get
more and more difficult, especially because I believe, I feel the same way I felt in 2007.
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All right, I want to talk about a couple of things.
and it involves not only the border, but it also involves the economy, really everything.
As I explain in the book, Addicted Outrage, chaos is our enemy.
Anything at all that helps chaos, helps foster chaos, you've got to get away from it.
We have to be stable people.
So you're looking for a lighthouse.
If you can, you want to be the lighthouse.
Now, what does a lighthouse do?
A lighthouse is on solid footing.
It never, ever moves.
It is an alert to the boats as they are approaching rocks.
Rocks ahead.
It is also a way to navigate when the storms are really bad.
and you can't see anything.
Or if you're all twisted around and the storm has tossed your vessel and you don't know which way is north, south, east, or west, look for the lighthouse or look to the north star.
You need a polar star.
You need a lighthouse.
Better yet, be one for someone else.
Now, how do you know what a lighthouse is?
Stability.
without chaos.
Yes, well, the light is going off and on.
No, but if you time it, it's making a circle.
And it's coming back exactly the same amount of time every time.
There's no chaos in that.
Yes, it's blinking off, on, off, on.
But it's exactly the same time.
No chaos.
It's never, ever moving.
You are.
So you're looking at.
for stability.
Stability in what?
In principles.
Principles are so critical today.
For instance, on the border,
were you against the gassing this week?
Great.
Will you speak out?
And did you speak out against the gassing that was happening?
We have the pictures under Obama.
No.
Okay.
So you're not consistent.
Well, I didn't know.
Well, why not?
about the cages.
Were you against it then?
No.
Well, I didn't know.
Well, you didn't want to know because I was trying to tell everybody.
So if you and the media didn't know, that's your fault.
That's your fault.
You have compassion when it hurts your cause.
Have compassion.
Are you compassionate when it hurts?
You say you want.
refugees. Well, did you want the Christians? You know, Barack Obama made it easier if you're a woman and you were abused by your husband to come in and claim asylum. Well, how about the rape slaves over in the Middle East? Are we even talking about them? And Christians don't get all high and mighty because are you talking about the Muslims that are being enslaved in China. You need a lighthouse needs to have the stability of, for instance,
The Supreme Court is the, well, it'll be answered by the Supreme Court because that's the law of the land until it rules against you.
And then you're like, we've got to fight to say, well, we don't have to, we don't have to abide by that.
My favorite is the ones on the left who say, we have to abide by everything.
The Supreme Court does because the Supreme Court is right on everything.
And yet you praise the people who stood up against the Dred Scott decision.
No, the Supreme Court doesn't know everything.
Sometimes that group of nine people get it wrong, very, very wrong.
In the end, it is all up to us through the rule of law.
So are you for the rule of law or against the rule of law?
And here's another one for conservatives.
You need it'll be a lighthouse.
Were you for the GM bailouts?
When George Bush said, I had to violate the free market system to save a free market system,
did you say, what?
Or did you say, oh, that's great.
We're going to have, you know, a good share of GM.
I'm thrilled about that.
I know I didn't.
I canceled a million dollar contract with GM.
It was the first time GM had ever been on talk radio.
I canceled it.
I did not make any friends at GM or in the radio business when I canceled it.
But I couldn't preach to you free market.
and then come on the air and say, oh, by the way, and here's a government subsidy car, I couldn't do it.
Now, GM has paid off that debt.
They're a free company again.
Are we celebrating or as a lighthouse?
Are you wobbling?
Are you now saying, right on, Mr. President, you've got to tell them they've got to keep those factory doors open.
You've got to tell them they can't make these cuts.
You've got to be involved.
Which are you? You're not a lighthouse.
And that's the only thing that's really truly going to matter.
The only way you can help.
People say all the time, what can I do?
Be a lighthouse.
Be immovable because the ships are everywhere.
And they're going to start crashing into each other because chaos is the word of our times.
Chaos.
You must do everything you can.
can to reduce chaos.
So you have credibility to help ships come back into harbor easily and safely.
I'm concerned about these things because I've told you that there is a window that is closing.
It's twofold window.
One of them is technology.
I think we're about five years away before technology can close in on us and we may not get out.
that's a very pessimistic look, but it's one that Elon Musk, it believes.
By 2025, we could be screwed.
Maybe not, perhaps not.
And I hope that's true.
But that's a closing window.
The other one is a window that is closing much faster, and that is the economy.
When the economy goes south, people generally get a little more testy.
We're already testy.
Please prepare yourself.
I sold my house.
And, you know, people can say whatever they want, but I had a large house.
It was an expensive house.
And I think the days of large expensive houses are over.
I think the large expensive houses today, the 20,000, I wasn't this, but a
20,000 square foot house.
Those days are going, those houses are going the way of, of the Newport, Rhode Island houses, I think.
The economy is going to go south.
Banking is going to get very tough again, much tougher than it was in 2008.
Loans are going to be extremely difficult to get.
Don't overspend.
if you're looking to sell your house, sell your house right now.
Sell your house right now.
There's a story in the Wall Street Journal today.
I mean, Texas is doing really well, really well.
And the Wall Street Journal came out a couple of days ago and said,
the housing boom is over and it's beginning in Dallas.
That is what the Wall Street Journal is saying.
And I just want to thank you, Glenn, for moving us here and selecting this as a location.
You are welcome.
I love it here.
But I did, you know, I'm a big believer in renting.
I love renting.
And you bought a house for the first time.
Not the first time I ever bought a house, but down here.
I lived here for five or six years before I bought a house.
And I didn't want to.
I just, circumstances sort of made it so it was really the only thing I could do at the time.
I mean, so of course now, obviously now is going to be the time that they're going to the,
well, it always turns around.
Boom is going to come to an end.
But yeah, I mean, that's what they're saying.
I mean, you know, look, there is some evidence here.
You know, it's also on the back of a really strong economy,
and so those two things are sort of fighting it out.
They're saying that the housing market is the thing that is 16% of the economy, the housing market.
And they're saying that that is the one piece of this that's out of step with the others that are doing really well.
And the belief is that there is, there's still a good market for lower-priced homes,
but the higher-priced homes are not doing as well.
And I don't know. I mean, like, you never know with this stuff. Obviously, like there was a time in 2006 where you were saying all this stuff and really nobody believed it. I mean, that was the peak of the housing market. In 2007, they were saying, hey, Dow was going to go to 35,000. And you did not get on that bandwagon. And it went down to six. So it has come back. I have the same. I have the same feeling that I had in 06 and 07 that it's coming. It's around the corner. Can't tell you when. But it's, we're close. We're close. We're close.
enough to where I'm reevaluating
absolutely everything. And we're due.
We are due for... We're past due. Yeah.
We're due for a downturn here. I hope
it doesn't happen. I think we know we have...
Tariffs are not helping. Definitely not helping.
I mean, I don't know that they're big enough now to cause.
No.
You know, a massive collapse by themselves.
No. But if we go to... I mean, if we implement all the things that have been
proposed, this puts us higher than every single
industrialized country in the world
and the only one, I mean, if you want to talk about a major country that would be close to us,
the only one you can really talk about would be Pakistan.
Everything else, I mean, any of the typical U.S. trading partners you think about are way less,
a quarter or a third of what we would be at.
And those are the high market ones.
In fact, really, the only countries that would be ahead of us are isolated island countries
like Bermuda and the Bahamas who would have higher rates.
Now, hopefully those things don't get implemented and we don't have to deal with.
that, but that is a real danger. If they do get implemented, we're in serious, serious.
So I was talking to a few people last night and reaching out and asking for advice,
people I respect, and I said, where do you put money? Because what is, what is Bitcoin down
to today? Jeez, uh, 3662. 3662. Still considerably up from when we first started talking about it.
Yeah. I mean, you know, a lot of people, I get these messages every once in a while. Like, hey,
Bitcoin's down, but I've still made a lot of money. Thank God I listened to you guys at the
beginning. But yeah, I mean, it's still, it sucks. It's scary. Yeah, I mean, it's scary.
It's definitely scary. Why is that? I talked to Tika Tuari. He's a guy who said, it's going to be at
40,000 by the end of the year. Clearly, clearly inaccurate. Clearly not going to happen.
I talked to him recently and said, so what's the deal? He said, it's bogus. It's, this is all
bogus. Everything that is happening is because the, the big institution,
are talking it down while they're positioning themselves to open up giant trading desks into
crypto.
So is that going on?
I don't know.
Yeah.
How do you, where would you, what do you think is solid ground for investing?
I never think there's solid ground to investing.
But, you know, it depends on your outlook, right?
I mean, I don't know where you put your money if you, if your outlook is, is in the very short term.
Right.
And you look and say, well, put it in the bank.
I don't trust the banks.
The banks, remember in 2008, they changed everything.
Put you last.
The depositor is now last in the chain.
So the bank goes out.
They don't have to pay you.
They can use your money in your account to pay other bills.
They changed that after 2008.
That's not good.
I mean, look, you're down this.
You're basically Ron Swanson when it comes to this.
You've got your ATM card is a shovel that you dig up gold in your backyard.
So I don't know.
But you are, I mean, I think that if you're looking at these things, you know, there are some exciting, you know, there's exciting developments.
There's still a lot of, and the economy is still strong.
The unemployment is very low.
Wage growth is going up.
I mean, I've been concerned too.
One of the reasons they're talking about this with the housing market is that people bought a house a few years ago.
Their house price has increased considerably.
And what also has happened is interest rates have gone up now.
Yes.
So now they're stuck, they're in this house with a great interest rate that they don't think they can get again, and they're probably right.
And if they go to another house, what they get is a new mortgage with a higher rate where they get less house for the money.
So why leave?
And that's one of the things that's hurting the market.
All right.
I want to talk to you a little bit about the Palm Beach letter and a little bit about Bitcoin and learning about cryptocurrencies.
Oh, was that a commercial?
I didn't realize.
I was starting into one.
I was one on a rant.
My question was not a commercial.
but the smart crypto course, Tanya and I were sitting last night, we were talking about it.
And we looked, have you seen like $2.4?
It's like $24.
Light coin.
Wow.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I will tell you that you need to understand cryptocurrency.
You need to understand what is happening, why it's happening, why blockchain is so important,
and why these big, huge companies like Chase are getting ready to open up giant trade.
waiting desks when all of a sudden the numbers look like it's worthless?
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Glenn, back.
I really want to talk to you more about Bitcoins do because I think there's a lot there that we should
talk about.
Also, we're just not going to get to this.
giant cow called Knickers in Australia.
Okay.
He is as tall as Michael Jordan.
Look at this picture.
Wow.
It's this cow that makes all the other huge cows look like their babies.
Yeah.
It is just one?
It just one.
It is 76 inches tall, almost 7,000.
feet.
It weighs 3,000 pounds.
You just don't want to mess with this one.
The average cow is 58 inches and weighs 2,200.
This is over 3,076 inches.
You imagine walking up to a cow and you're looking up to it like a kid?
And all of a sudden, first time cows look menacing all of a sudden.
So when you're writing a book about football, you go right to the guy who knows everything about it, Glenn Beck.
That's the first.
The literary agents say you've got to get on the Glenn Beck program.
Number one on the press tour.
It's definitely the first stop.
I have a feeling we're not the number one stop.
But we're thrilled to have a couple of guests talking about the new book.
brainwashed the bad science behind CTE and the plot to destroy football.
Yeah, very cool.
Dr. Peter Cummings, who's a board-certifies forensic neuropathopatholic.
I'm never going to be able to.
Pathologists.
Pathologists, thank you.
And also, of course, Merrill Hodge, who everybody knows, except for Glenn, because Glenn doesn't
know anything about sports, but if he did, he would know.
Look at him in this well-tailored suit and say, you were a professional athlete.
He identifies athletes by the fashion.
No, no, no, no.
By the, by the, he has to have that one specially cut because his shirt.
shoulders are big and his waist is a little dyed easy season good good shape.
Thank you guys for doing this. This is a really interesting topic. The book Brainwashed is,
I think, really important from the perspective of it, it gives a little bit more context
into a story that people have followed very loosely, I think. I think I was joking before
we came on the air that most people's understanding of this issue starts with Will Smith was a doctor.
And Will Smith actually was not a doctor. He played the
that in a, he was in a movie.
The movie was concussion.
And I think that's set the narrative for CTE and the NFL.
So let me,
let me take this because I'm not a football fan.
And I have been following this.
I think like the average American who is not a big fan.
So let's start with,
let's start with this.
And I may be below the average American.
Okay.
CTE is caused by repeated injury to the head
because you guys are knocking heads over and over again.
the NFL knew about this.
You know, people are, you know, turning into vegetables.
They didn't care.
They hid all of this science from people.
And now people like you are out.
And we don't know if you have, do you have any of the signs of CTE?
Well, they don't know really what the signs are, symptoms are.
Okay.
So if we go back to everything that you just mentioned there, actually we are here because you're global.
And this actual message is a global.
It's not just football.
You know, I tell people, my son's first concussion ever slipped in a shower.
Okay, now it's four days before his first bowl game ever,
but he's now ineligible to play even though the concussion was not in an athletic environment
or, say, practice in football.
He slipped in a shower because for an hour I was trying to get in a bow.
Of all the things that you could have done, how did,
and he's the best athlete I've ever seen, how do you slip in a shower?
And now he can't play.
He can't play.
I mean, that's just, but concussions and head trauma happen all the time.
All the time in all kinds of environments.
It's not just an athletic environment.
So there are so many things that you said right there and you say, you know, repetitive head injuries cause it.
Okay, there's no scientific evidence of that.
But in the media, they have, they're used words like linked, cause.
There's not one piece of scientific literature that has those words in it, linked or caused.
So is there any?
Is there any statistical proof that shows this happens to more football players than the average society?
Well, the issue is this.
And the questions are asking are great because there are the same questions we asked each other.
I know Merrill is a former NFL player, but I grew up loving football.
But I banned it in my house because I didn't want my son to play it because I'd seen this narrative that was being broadcast.
And this is your expertise.
And this is my expertise, right?
So when my son became interested in football, I took it upon myself to sit down proactively and go through the science and then look at the sport and see how that had changed.
And one of the things you start to notice is this narrative now that is sort of believed that if you play football, you're inevitably going to get concussions, you're inevitably going to get CTE, you're inevitably going to become suicidal, depressed, anxious, and demented.
And that just doesn't exist scientifically.
If you actually look at the mortality studies that have been done, and this is NFL players,
so it's really hard to bring this back to youth football players because 99% of the football players in this country are not going to play beyond high school.
So you'll see that NFL players live longer.
They have longer lifespans.
They have healthier lifestyles.
They have lower rates of suicide rates and homicide rates that are a fraction of the general population.
They have arrest rates that are lower than the general population.
I told you that's not the image that you think of.
You don't know because it's that you see it on TV and they're superstars.
I mean, these are gods to us in our society.
So if you hear it, you would even think that you could explain some suicide from, I mean, people
identify with what am I going to do with my life?
If you've wanted to play football your whole life and then it's over, you can really go,
that could really screw with somebody's head, even if you're not been hit in the head.
Well, you know, I try to use this with people to make them understand that.
Now, Glenn, I know, have you been doing this for a lot of.
long, long time. Let's just say something happens to you and say you can never do radio or TV again.
You're done. Now, that right there can put you in a depressive state that transition to, you know,
what we call Chuck Knoll was the greatest man I've ever been around, greatest leader and coach.
He used to always talk to us about our life's work. He's like, men, it's not football.
Yes. You know, get your education. Use the relationships. You're going to have to do something else
and you're with your life's work. Well, when you transition from football to your life's work,
that's not easy for any football player.
And I think the more that football was your life
and the more you really worked on your life's work,
that bridge over there,
the bigger the struggle is,
the longer that can take.
And then you add the things that we know cause,
have connections with our mental health,
cancers,
and every cardiovascular disease is drugs,
alcohol, opioids, obesity, sugar,
inflammation. Those are all lifestyle choices that are scientific evidence. They contribute to all the
things I just mentioned. Well, we control those choices. Those aren't things like age or genetics
where nobody control it, control age. Nobody can really, if there's a genetic link,
knowing it's good to me, that's why I can be proactive, but I can't change my genetics.
They are my facts. But a majority of all the things that create a lot of the cognitive brain health
issues we have stems from all those things I just said drugs alcohol opioids inflammation sugar
all of those things which are a lifestyle so and again excuse me for just being a regular
lay person on this haven't paid attention but are you saying that getting hit in the head did
not um uh increase the problems with people like Muhammad Ali well I think there's a there's a difference
between that because if you look at
kind of historically at this CTE science, the first original cases were from the 20s in
boxers. And these were guys that boxed all year. And after they finished their, whatever tournament
or whatever they were doing their season, they would go box in carnivals. They would, you know,
do sideshows. So it was a constant thing. So we know that there's a real thing that happens
with boxers. It has to be. And it's been really well described in the literature. And
And there's a, you know, so if you want to bring it up to football, I mean, nobody's going to say that hitting your head is okay, one time or a hundred times.
And we do a lot of things to try to prevent that.
But that's not the same as boxing.
It's not the same as boxing.
And so if you look at the boxing population of people and what their brains kind of look like when they looked at them in the autopsies versus what the football player's brains look like, they have different pathologies in them.
And there are some people in Europe and Britain that say, you know, CTE doesn't exist outside of boxing.
The Americans are cuckoo.
You know, so we're not really sure.
And Merrill has said it so perfectly a million times,
I'm going to steal his line that with CTE,
we don't know what causes it,
and we don't know what it causes.
And I think that is where the science is right now.
And you know something that I think,
it was really the final spark that drove this book
is when I went from neuropathologists
and neuropathologists in this country and Canada,
and they all kept coming back to,
guys, we don't.
It's an observation state.
We do not know anything beyond that.
We have cases where they never played football.
We have cases where they have no history of head trauma.
They never played sports.
I'm like, well, time out.
If you have cases where you didn't even play sports
and they have this pattern and they had no history ahead trauma,
how can we only hear about football ones and sports ones?
And now people think it's only in that arena
when we have all these cases outside that arena.
And that's when the discrepancy of what science really says
versus what we see in the media was so grotesquely off that I just believe people needed all the
information to understand the science to help them with the choices that they're making with
their families and their kids.
Okay, so let me take a break.
And then we can come back in because the name of the book is brainwashed.
And the second part of it, the plot to destroy football.
So let's talk about the media and their role and the quote plot to destroy football,
kind of a heavy charge when we come back in just a second.
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We're talking to NFL great Merrill Hodge and Dr. Peter Cummings about their new book,
Brainwashed.
And we were, it's about CTE and the NFL.
and what's true and what isn't.
I did an interview with Dr. David Chow from San Diego.
He's a former head doctor of the San Diego Chargers
and now does a lot of NFL injury stuff.
And talking to him was fascinating
because it was the first exposure I ever had to any skepticism
from the idea that you go in the NFL, you get CTE.
That's pretty much what the media says.
And he said there's much more that we don't know about CTE
than we do know.
He talked about, is this true?
I mean, is it, you know, hereditary?
Is it other people in other sports and other professions?
What do we know?
What is the actual facts?
Well, let me just tell you this.
And Dr. Cummings will build on this in a much better way.
But when you start, when I ask these neuropathologists about, you know, the pattern,
since it's an observation state, you don't know what causes it.
You don't know what it causes.
And they start sharing all of these cases where, you know, they find the pattern in somebody
who never played football, you know, never had a history of concussion, never had head trauma.
There's a four-month-old and a one-year-old that have found the pattern in.
Well, right there, you can't obviously blame sports or football.
Right. But what was interesting in some of the literature, like, and even the science papers,
if you read the science papers, there's clarity there, too, that they don't know.
They say it 100 of times in the paper, we don't know, we don't know.
but there's people who wrote the paper are the ones that are in the media giving you the quotes
where, oh, I got to believe everybody has this that's played football.
How is it that you, because didn't you earlier say we don't even know really what it is?
You don't know, I mean, what are the symptoms?
Nobody knows.
Science hasn't been able to get that answer yet.
So how do we know what, you know, when you say babies had it?
How do we know if there's no set of?
Good question.
There's outside in the kind of football world CTE papers.
And this is something you touched on a second ago, the voices of skepticism.
When I started this journey for myself, you know, I thought it was Don Quixote swinging at windmills.
You know, am I the only person that sees that this isn't matching up?
And that's not how you started.
That's not how I started.
I started with not wanting my kid to even watch football on TV.
So when I started doing some research on my own, looking at these papers up,
I've found people like Dr. Chowell, who's a fantastic guy.
We've talked a couple of times.
And I found out that, you know, a lot of the people,
majority of the people in my neurot trauma world,
feel the same way I do,
have the same opinion that I have about this.
And so one of the things we try to talk about in this book
is try to show that research that's out there
that contradicts a lot of the things that we've taken
to be truth about CTE.
So when you start looking, you find these cases
of people who have never played football
that have CTE.
like this one epilepsy case series that had a one-year-old, a four-month-old,
I think two one-year-olds.
You know, how do they have?
And this, they die.
They have temporal lobe resections.
They take out a piece of temporal lobe out of their brains.
And you look at them under the microscope for this protein tau, which we all have.
It's a normal protein that helps stabilize nerve cells.
But if something happens to the nerve cell, the tau becomes what's called hyperphosphorylated.
A lot of phosphate groups get stuck on and it gets sticky.
and so they found this same pattern in these children
and in all of the epileptic cases that they looked at
who had never played contact sports.
So when you start looking at these cases
and you have to say, well, did they even have symptoms of CTE
or what we think may be symptoms of CTE?
They didn't.
So we haven't been able to figure any of that out yet in science.
All we know is we have this pattern.
And like I said, we don't know what causes it
and we don't know what it causes.
Well, there's a lot of money at stake.
for, you know, against the NFL.
The NFL is spending a lot of money to try to help people along.
Are they not?
Actually, but see, the NHL and the NFL have already settled.
So, like, people ask me, well, what will NFL players say about your book?
I'm like, wouldn't you want to know the truth?
I mean, at the end of the day, wouldn't you want to know all of the facts, everything,
somebody to do the work and explain it to you?
And then, listen, I'm not telling you to like football.
I'm not telling you how you should change your mind.
I'm just asking you to open your mind to all of the information.
You use it how you want.
Well, the settlement for NH& NFL is done.
Now, people don't know, it's settled with unsettled science.
The science is not confirmed one way or the other.
They just settled.
So this has no bearing on it.
The NFL got nailed a billion dollars.
That billion dollars is for players and health issues,
cognitive health issues,
which is I could go do a whole other show on just how much,
money's going to be sitting there going to waste when it could go to other things that were football
related and the nchale did the same thing so it's over so this is not going to change any of that then i
can't go back to go back to court away we wrote the read the book brainwash and i think we've got
make them prove the science before we settle right because nobody can prove the science that's just
a problem you can't prove it because there's no science there for it but being just settled um
so it doesn't affect any of that no your your main motivation for
for writing the book is families, kids, my passion for kids, my passion for youth football.
That's why I went in 2009, I was the first person, player, coach, parent, dad, that stood in front
of Congress and go listen.
My career ended because this in 1994, we changed what we do in the NFL.
This is 2009 that I'm in front of Congress.
We're doing stuff in the NFL, NCAA.
99% of our football players are ages 8 to 18, and we're doing nothing there.
let's establish a protocol and actually what I challenged him to do with all of sports
because what I'd found out even to that point I've been implementing a head trauma protocol
in my youth program for years that if we do these things
if you son or daughter has any type of head trauma in any environment do the one thing
that's most important remove them from that environment and don't let them return if you
just do that so your son's never showered and you know that that is that's a great point
It's a humor side, but a realistic one.
It could happen anywhere in our life.
So wouldn't it be better to know about it?
So you remove them.
And you know what?
Evaluate them.
If you need to get them to a neuropathologist or a medical professional to be evaluated
before they return to that activity, that's the best thing and safest thing you can do for your kids.
So at least do that for them.
So that's why I went to Congress.
Can we do that?
Can we get a protocol to really help create a safer environment for our kids when they're being active?
It's fascinating, too.
I think I'm going to talk to him about that shower.
I don't know.
The way they've gone after the NFL, I think, has been interesting in this.
Because the way they portray it is this doctor from Nigeria comes up.
He discovers this, goes the NFL, proves it to them.
They ignore it because they want money.
Now, in reality, they have some of the top doctors there.
There was disagreement at the time and still is to some level.
Not to some level.
There seems to be a lot.
Major disagreement.
But was there a time that they didn't act fast enough?
Did they slow play this at all?
Well, here's where you, you, my, actually, my career and my history is interwoven in all of those people.
Dr. Rune, Dr. Lovell were the first group of doctors to ever do cognitive testing in 1991.
Before any neuropathologists, neurologist, and the world was even thinking of doing something like that for sports.
Wow.
Because Chuck Null challenged them to give him subjective and objective information, not just one, give me two.
That's why that test was created.
30 seconds here before we go.
Okay.
If you look at my career, what they got nailed for, it was not.
reacting quick enough.
It wasn't like they're hiding stuff and they just
choose. They didn't react fast enough.
They didn't get the cognitive test established
quick enough. It wasn't like they knew
something that everybody else. It's not
like the tobacco industry. Nothing like that.
Okay, so let's get into what they
did know and the press and how
this has all been spun
when we come back.
There's a new book called Brainwashed
the bad science behind
CTE and the plot to
destroy football. The author
Here's Merrill Hodge.
Hodge.
I always do.
You do it every time.
My ancestors when I see him.
Just put a D in there.
Come on.
And Peter Cummings, who is a board-certified forensic neuropathologist.
They've been studying CTE.
You are, Merrill, you're one of the first people that were going through cognitive testing with the NFL back in the early 90s.
There's one part of this, the plot to destroy football.
Plot is a pretty heavy word.
Is it a plot to destroy football?
If you look at,
I'll just give you one example.
We were just talking about how you can have some type of head trauma.
We joke about my son,
slips in a shower, okay?
Thanksgiving, I watch a seven-year-old
crawl under a coffee table and try to get out too soon,
boom, cracks his head, cuts his head open.
So you know it can have a car accident,
wheeled sports across the board.
They got legislation in California to band tackle football
until age 14.
Now, you can still box at age eight,
MMA fight at age eight.
You can play soccer, lacrosse, every other contact sport.
Why would you just single out football in five different states?
There's no scientific evidence whatsoever that contact sports or contact activities,
wields sports, jumping on trampolines, having pillow fights, being a kid,
living life, being active, has ever caused development issues in our younger age,
later in life. There's no scientific evidence of that. They have none of that, so why would
you target this, that? Why would you bring that legislation to any state with no scientific evidence
whatsoever? And if you really say, well, we're care about kids, why aren't you doing it for all
sports? Why aren't you doing it? Yeah, especially boxing. I mean, boxing is so much.
MMA. I mean, it's so clear that you're getting punched in the face. That's the point.
Exactly. That's punch somebody in the head. Yeah. So until they're not, they'll not,
out. Hello. And then in boxing,
they do the right thing and they remove them and don't let them box
again. I'm like, well, in case what?
You don't have, that is the
objective there. So when like all
of that is exclude, you have to ask the people,
what are you doing? What's your purpose?
What's the motivation there? I mean, I think part of it
football gets targeted because
you know, science, health,
food reporting is worse than even, we've
complained about political bias and reporting all the time.
But the science and health reporting
is worse, I think. The media is
terrible doing this. And so I
think because it's, you know, there's a Will Smith movie out there, you know? I mean, there's all
this momentum. As soon as it gets into the zeitgeist, it's over. Yeah. And that's why,
is that why football is targeted? Is there some other reason why they think? Well, listen, we've
done some interviews with the media and we talk, we have this conversation. Okay, listen, why? Why do you
keep bringing? Like, people keep wanting to bring back the NFL. They kind of keep circling back to
the NFL. I didn't write the book for the NFL. It has nothing to do about the NFL. Other than my
career is in or wind there and I can tell you the truth about everything and they would literally
say to us because it's the big ticket. I said, what I'm talking about. So ignore all of the true facts
that you're sending to the people who read you or read your stuff or listen to you. Forget giving
them all the truth and all the information. You're going to circle and keep targeting football because
it's the big ticket. I mean, to me that's just a grotesque abuse of your journalistic lack of skills.
It's also a misread, I think, of who people really are.
Yes, the NFL is an interesting story, but are you going to play,
are you going to let your kids play football?
Yes or no is something that all of us have to deal with.
Whether that football player or that football player have CTE in their life and they've
been screwed by somebody in the NFL, that's not affecting me.
Right.
But I know in my family, are we going to let, are we going to let,
are we going to let, you know, our son play football, your family going to play football?
That's something we all deal with.
Right.
And you both dealt with it too.
Right.
And I'm going to tell you this.
People ask me that, you know, like, they asked me, were you surprised at what you found
when I went on the journey?
Because listen, I went on there with a headline, but I have great connections,
relationship.
I was, it didn't make sense to me.
The numbers don't add up.
I've played in the NFL.
I go to NFL alumni events all the time.
There's hundreds of NFL, former NFL players.
in their 60, 70, 80s.
We just had three pass away here in the last month, late 80s, early 90s.
I mean, that's played back in the 50s and 60s when you couldn't even drink water,
you're considered soft, okay?
Plastic helmets.
And so the quest to find out really the truth of it, I was actually more shocked than I thought
that how uncertain they were with everything and all these cases that existed outside of sports.
But it did make me think because they asked the follow-up question,
if I'd have found out the opposite.
Had I found out the opposite,
I'd have pulled my son out of football immediately.
I'd have ripped him out of football that second.
If I really thought this had anything to do with it.
Because you're putting even more than your money where your mouth is here.
Yeah, because the same place as your kids.
Right.
And you're doing the same thing.
That's why you got you as a doctor into this.
Right.
And the same thing.
If I had felt for one second that there was enough information there to keep my kid from playing football,
I'd be screaming this from a top of a mountain.
You know, but I found the opposite.
And Merrill touched on an interesting point of his,
NFL alumni friends, there have been a number of studies from some big universities like Mayo
and Vanderbilt that have followed football players for 50 years after high school careers
and, I mean, hundreds of them and found that they don't have any increased risk of dementia,
Parkinson's disease, ALS, or any of these things we think you're going to get from playing football.
They did find, they compared them to athletes that didn't play football,
and they also compared them to band members and members of Gleet Club.
And I think the highest rate of dementia is actually in the clarinet players.
That makes sense, though.
It does.
I mean, you're taking up the clarinet.
You're like, there's something wrong with you.
There's my next book, band clarinets.
But it's interesting that because, I mean, some of these studies when you're talking about life expectancy
show that baseball players have shorter lives than football players, which, again, you wouldn't,
people would not think that.
But the science is the science.
And, you know, you want to look at it with an honest eye and get out of the media's sort of
firestorms about these things.
And it doesn't seem that a lot of people are able to do.
do that, especially when you're making a decision about your kids.
That's emotional.
Yeah.
People get emotional.
So it's got to be tough for you, Merrill, because your son can't play.
You just said, you're one of the best athletes I've ever seen.
He gets a concussion from slipping in the shower.
He now can't play.
He was quarterback.
Right.
Right.
So you've got, it's got to be a double whammy to you because you're like, this isn't even true.
He came back, though.
He came back.
Yeah, he comes back and play.
but based on when he got the concussion, he couldn't play because it was four days before the game.
So that's why he couldn't play.
Oh, okay.
So that's just the proper protocol in place.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's why I talk about, we've been playing football for nearly 100 years.
And if I said to a family, when would be the best time for your kids to be active and involved in sports?
If you didn't say today, based on protocols, treatments, therapies, equipment, instruction, and rules, if you are extremely uninformed, if you, you, you are extremely uninformed, if you, if you didn't, you.
You picked the 90 up to this last 10?
Yeah.
You're going to inform.
Because they have made major improvements, right?
Not just in the equipment as well.
Listen, when I retired, I was in intensive care, and I remember somebody telling me a NASCAR helmet's better than that football helmet you had on.
I said, well, A, why and B, why don't we wear a NASCAR helmets?
They're like a NASCAR helmet's meant to absorb impact.
It's got to withstand one car accident.
So you've got to get rid of that helmet or it's probably going to be.
Football helmets are meant to withstand impact.
our helmets today are absorb and deflect impact.
So there's no concussion-proof helmet.
That's not what I'm saying.
But the technology in the protection and how we go about playing.
And if you do have hit trauma, we do something about it now.
And there's treatments and therapies that they do for you to help heal your brain
so that you return back in a safer environment and a better healthy environment.
That's exciting stuff.
But we don't hear that because of a headline that is still in the attention that the science can't back.
I remember a headline, and I don't even know if this is true.
I remember a headline that said rugby players don't have this problem.
And they were saying that it's because of the technology of the NFL, the NFL,
that it makes you more willing to really go for it because you know you're protected.
And so it gives you a false sense of security.
Is there anything to rugby players?
Well, they've found it in rugby players.
They found it with the CTE pattern in rugby players, soccer players.
or, you know, European football players.
The interesting thing about rugby, though, was that was an inspiration for a lot of rule changes.
And that's something else that a lot of parents don't know about.
And I was completely ignorant of rule changes in football when I started out with this.
I can just read the science papers.
I went to USA football.
I went to Pop Warner.
I wanted to know what they were doing, even if there was a slightest risk, how are we improving the game to account for this?
When we don't know, let's do something proactive.
So when he started, the rugby style tackling became a really big popular thing.
Because when I grew up in Maine, we didn't have a, we were in a kind of low-income town,
and we didn't have a youth football team until I was like in seventh or eighth grade.
But we played morning, noon, and night on the playground and without equipment tackling.
And nobody got hurt.
We're not knowing at the time, but we were using rugby-style tackling of wrapping somebody up,
pulling them down.
You kind of learned that technique on your own.
But that was a big inspiration for some of the techniques that are being used in
taught now in football, where we did have a situation where because we had this great equipment
that the helmet became a weapon and people were launching into players and trying to get that
out of the game when we learn more about safety. So rugby has been a bit of an inspiration for football.
So the name of the book is brainwashed. If you are thinking about whether or not your kids should
play in football and maybe even shower, or if, you know, perhaps even more like,
if your wife is saying, I don't want him to play football, and you want to back it up with the facts that it's not so bad.
Brainwashed is the name of the book.
Bad science behind CTE and the plot to destroy football.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you for your work.
This was awesome.
Yeah, thank you.
And thanks for setting it straight for the right reasons.
Yeah.
That's about the kids.
Thank you.
All right.
I had a mom come up to me and say,
A long time ago before I started this and say,
my son wants to play football.
What am I going to do?
You know, I explained to me why you let your son play.
So we had the conversation, and she comes back
the next year. He's, oh, he's playing football. It's great.
We're a football family. We love it. And the best thing is he's showering every day now.
That's the big motivation for sports for parents.
It's just to get the kids to shower for once.
All right. Thanks, guys. We appreciate it.
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So I want to give a plug to something that 90s.
99% of America, if not more, cannot appreciate.
But I'm giving a plug because I want you to find a place like this.
For the last couple of years, we brought our Christmas tree up in a place by the ranch.
It's in Petersburg, Utah.
And it's called Adams Acres.
And we drive at least an hour to get there.
And we go get a tree, anyplace else.
But we found this place a couple of years ago, and it's run by a family.
and the kids are out, the parents are there, the grandparents were there, and they're all working the farm.
And it was just this idea.
We wanted to do something as a family that would last.
And so we decided to do a tree farm.
They didn't know what they were doing.
And they were like, oh, this is a lot bigger job than we thought it was.
They opened it up a couple of years ago.
And it is just, it's like walking into what's a wonderful life.
Really?
Yeah, it's just this normal, really cool family that are, the kids are so nice.
I bought a 10-foot blue spruce, $60.
Oh, my God.
$60.
That is not the price around the country.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, no, it's not.
But anyway, go find a, don't go to the Home Depot or whatever.
Go find a tree lot.
Go find a tree farm.
You know, we go out and we cut the tree down.
when I say we, Rafe cuts the tree.
And it's just so much better.
Now, warning, the trees look smaller out on a tree farm than they do in your house.
So you're Clark W. Gorswald basically.
So, yes.
Yes, a little bit.
A little bit.
Yeah.
Well, I was trying to help pick out the trees.
And my wife kept saying, that's a Johnny Bradtree.
That's a Johnny Bradtree.
Okay.
Well, yeah, it also will fit at the house.
We bought this tree, and it was a great tree, but it's not a Charlie Brown tree and had to cut like a lot of it.
Well, if we cut the back part of this off, we can put it up here next to the wall.
The last time I had a real tree, which a few years ago, we had it, you know, over time, it dries out a little bit.
It was one of those that no matter how much water you put in, it just kept drying out.
And I had to saw all the branches off to get it out of the house.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, it hurts.
It sucked.
It was embarrassing.
and, you know, I just, I'm not a scientist.
I could not get it to, I could not get it figured out.
I have a friend who put it into a bucket of water and put miracle grow in it, just dumped
miracle grow in it.
It grew roots.
Really?
Yeah.
Grew roots.
They planted it.
That's fantastic.
We should plant this thing.
We're putting miracle grow.
I don't, I can't imagine that works, but it did for them.
I'm putting a bunch of miracle grow in that thing.
We'll plant it.
But I, we have to make a.
a pact with the family that we don't cut it down again.
You imagine it's like, the tree would be like,
and then every Christmas I just heal,
and every Christmas they come and cut me up again.
It's like you're fishing and just keep pulling the same fish out of the water.
It's like, okay, okay, come on.
Pick on somebody else.
It's your fault.
It's a little lure.
Stop going after it, you moron.
It's not a real worm.
Stop trying to eat it.
It's a long lesson.
We have to learn us fish.
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