The Glenn Beck Program - 'One Outrage at a Time'? - 9/24/18

Episode Date: September 24, 2018

Hour 1 #MeTooMartyr to testify?... Senate Democrats Investigate a New Allegation released by the 'New Yorker Magazine'...can't back up the facts that they have published?...what we say and do can la...st centuries...the ramifications of what we say...our children will pay the price...i guess the truth is who you decide to believe? ...Learning from our past...Adams vs. Jefferson...lies and the press, even back then?    Hour 2  Outrage Culture with Heather Mac Donald...How colleges teach students to see bias where it doesn't exit?...feminist narcissism...the effort to destroy Bret Kavanaugh looks like a revenge attack on a civilization deemed too male?...what if he really was a 'skirt chaser'?...feminist are trying to take our civilization down, one nervous breakdown at a time...the death of the chaperon...America is reaping what we sowed in the 1960's...get ready a 'free speech' crisis is coming...we're divided into 3 camps?...rethinking college?   Hour 3  Post modern social justice continues to change our world?... ...Ted Cruz vs. The Anti-Texan Beto?...who won the debate?...the Jim Crow comparison game plan is backfiring? ...6 of congressional candidate's siblings endorse opponent use video to attack Ad their own brother?...'vote for our brothers opponent'...betraying our own families for politics = blind rage? ...Alyssa Milano vs. Glenn Beck?...snarky Twitter responses ...why is the media purposely ignoring the Keith Ellison's accuser?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Blaze Radio Network On Demand. Glenn back. Another allegation was lobbed at Kavanaugh last night. This one comes from Deborah Ramirez, a Yale classmate of Kavanaugh, who told the New Yorker that Kavanaugh thrust his... Thrust his penis in her face, causing her to touch it.
Starting point is 00:00:30 She claims that both of them were highly intoxicated. No. All right. First of all, the story should have never made it to print. It is telling that the New Yorker ran it while the New York Times and Washington Post have stayed away. Ramirez admits that she had spent six days, quote, assessing her memories before really, truly recalling what had happened. She also admits that there are, quote, significant gaps in her memories of the evening. Like the Ford allegation, no one can collaborate. and Kavanaugh has flat out denied it has ever happened as has many people that she said were
Starting point is 00:01:12 there they have all come out now since and said I've no recollection of this even happening it's totally out of character so how did this make it into a national publication have the rules of journalism changed or suddenly spontaneously combust no it's just that there are no real rules of journalism anymore. The real journalists have left. Advocates and torchbearers have taken their places. And in the digital world where you can assassinate
Starting point is 00:01:42 someone's character in 0.7 seconds, go ahead, try it. Google Kavanaugh. It'll take you 0.7 seconds for Google to come back with 128 million results. That's how fast it happens now. If someone can make a false
Starting point is 00:02:00 claim on Twitter, it'll be retweeted 10,000 times plus the correction if he even comes from the original poster will only get what 10 or 20 tweets maybe that's what Democrats are doing to Kavanaugh now and they know it and sadly so does Kavanaugh it's amazing what we're seeing in our country right now is this the country that you want your kids to grow up in
Starting point is 00:02:24 is this fairness no this is social justice Social justice in the postmodern world means that it doesn't matter if Kavanaugh did it. Somebody like Kavanaugh did do it. It doesn't matter if it happened to these victims because it has happened or something like it has happened to other victims. And it all balances out in the end or so they think. I just ask anybody who is so sure of themselves today. on one side or the other.
Starting point is 00:03:04 If this were happening to you, would you think this was a fair process? The left has taken this hearing and completely turned the rules upside down. The term reasonable doubt has always meant that if it exists, you have to assume the person is innocent, reasonable doubt. Well, I can't find any reason to believe. These people on Twitter yesterday were all absolutely positively sure Kavanaugh was guilty. Well, I'm not absolutely positively sure he's not. How could you possibly based on two people that their stories fall apart once it leaves them?
Starting point is 00:03:55 The left is now rewritten the definition. There's no evidence, not one single corroborating witness. to any of these claims, not one. Now that's enough to get you laughed out of a courtroom. But for some reason, the, quote, resistance wants reasonable doubt now to shift toward the accuser. Keep in mind, these are the same people, the very same people, who are supposedly for criminal justice and prison reform. Isn't it exactly the problem? Haven't we been in a society?
Starting point is 00:04:34 that will believe the white woman instead of Emmett Till, wasn't that the problem? This one white woman's testimony who claimed he touched her, he grabbed her, and he made lewd comments to her, that's why nobody went to jail. Because the reasonable doubt went to her. If reasonable doubt shifts towards the accuser,
Starting point is 00:05:06 Can you imagine how full our prisons will be? Can you imagine living under a government where reasonable doubt always sides towards the prosecution? If there is no evidence, if there are no witnesses to any of these claims, I'm sorry. But Kavanaugh must get confirmed. Now, if they have witnesses and we have reasonable doubt, he probably should be concerned. But if we can get to a point to where it's clear to all of us who are honest, then he should go away. Senate Democrats know the game they're playing. Their ultimate goal here?
Starting point is 00:05:58 It's the midterms 2020. The Supreme Court confirmation hearing is just a tool of the left used to influence another court. And that is the court of public opinion. It's Monday, September 24th. This is the Glenn Beck program. You know, this has been coming for a long time. It's just that we have to get off this train. We've accepted it from each of our parties for a while.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Do you remember when, oh, who was it from Arizona? The Mormon from Arizona, Pat, or Nevada, Nevada. What's his name? Harry Reid. Harry Reid. When Harry Reid stands up and says, You know, Romney, I got a call. Romney.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Romney, he didn't pay his taxes. Now it's out there. That was a lie. He knew it was a lie. But he knew that the press would take it and run with it. And it would get out there and it would poison the well. Our president, Raphael Cruz, was involved in the plot to assassinate Kennedy. What?
Starting point is 00:07:12 It was a lie. He knew that it was a lie. But it got into the press and it poisons the well. Kavanaugh, now, Stormy Daniels attorney is now saying that he was part of a rape gang. Now it's to a rape gang. He's part of a rape gang. It's a lie, but it'll get out and it'll destroy him. This is not the first time that this has happened, but I wanted to go back into history and see how does this play out?
Starting point is 00:07:46 Eventually, how does this play out? Well, if you go back in time, especially if you go back to the party politics, looking for the third president of the United States, who is going to be? Who's going to be president? Is it going to be Adams or is it going to be Jefferson? Now, Adams had already seen what the press can do and what pamphleteers could do. And so he comes up with the Sedition Act, which is absolutely against everything that we ever said we were foreign. America when it comes to the when it comes to the press and freedom of speech but he had enough of people just lying in the press so there was a big turmoil and Jefferson thought that
Starting point is 00:08:37 Adams had betrayed the Republic and also because he thought he was going to go to war with France and he was going to start he was going to start a foreign war and he was going to start a foreign war and he wanted nothing to do with it. So they become enemies. These friends become enemies. And during the election, the two of them start to lob charges against each other. Jefferson, or at least the people around Jefferson, he never said this because he was above it. But his campaign accused President Adams of having, quote, a hideous,
Starting point is 00:09:19 hamaphroditeical character, which neither has the force or firmness of a man nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman. So he calls Adams a haemaphrodite. So what happens? Adams, his team, responds, well, Jefferson is mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw sired by a Virginia mulatto father. So as my mind, he said, his mind. is an Indian squaw and his dad is half white and half black. It went down from the, it ended with those guys. I think Adams made the claim that if Jefferson was going to be president, all of your daughters would be raped and there would be heads on pikes all the way down the streets.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Right? Right, Pat? Yep. That's where the story usually ends, right? Even Martha Washington got involved in this. she told a clergyman of Jefferson that Jefferson was one of the most detestable of all mankind. So this is going back and forth. And that's where we think the story ends.
Starting point is 00:10:33 But in trying to find out, how does this end? How have we corrected this course before? Let me tell you a story you probably haven't heard. there was a pamphleteer. His name was James Callender. James Callender was a guy he was Scottish and he came in and he was on the side of Jefferson and he was a pamphleteer and he would pretty much say pretty much anything like Adams is a haemaphrodite. And he would print these things and pass them out. Jefferson of course was far too good of a fellow to be involved. in anything like that. He wouldn't. I don't know James Callender.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Oh, that's outrageous that you would say that. The thought was at the time that Jefferson had hired Calendar to say these things. But of course, absolutely not. 1801, the Sedition Act. Calendar's thrown in jail. He gets the stiffest penalty of any of the players of the press under John Adams. he's fined $200 and he has to go to jail for six months. So he goes and he serves his jail time.
Starting point is 00:11:58 He pays his $200. And when Jefferson becomes president, he pardons Calendar. Well, Callender wants to see him right away because what about my $200? And you, you know, I think you might owe me some money too. I mean, I haven't been able to work. What about the $200 and, you know, some of what do they say about combat pay? Jefferson pretends he doesn't know him. Jefferson says,
Starting point is 00:12:26 I, look, I pardon the guy. That's all he gets. So then what happens? Well, he says, look, Jefferson paid me to tell these stories. He paid me. Jefferson says, I didn't pay him. He said, she said.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I didn't pay him. Yes, he did. No, I didn't. Yes, he did. No, I didn't. Yes, he did. Unfortunately, for Jefferson, calendar had letters from Jefferson, including payments for the things he wanted
Starting point is 00:13:06 him to say. So all of a sudden, now Jefferson is exposed as this liar. He releases the letter. So what happens then? Well, the people who support Jefferson, they won't have any of it. And so they decide that they're going to start a new rumor. And so the supporters, of Jefferson who are just trying to protect the president. The supporters start circulating the rumor that Callender actually is such a bad guy. He's such bad character. You can't believe a thing he says. How do we even know those letters are true?
Starting point is 00:13:42 Because Callender is the kind of guy who abandoned his wife while she was dying of venereal disease. Callender is outraged. How dare you say that? Well, is your wife alive? No. Didn't she die? Yes. Didn't she die of some horrible disease?
Starting point is 00:14:02 Yes. But not venereal disease. And I was with her every step of the way, unless I had to work. She died of typhus. Not venereal disease. But because the supporters of Jefferson were so intent on making sure they protected their political guy, Calendar does something else. calendar releases a rumor that Thomas Jefferson had been making babies with Sally Hemings.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Now, when that failed, when that failed to catch on at the time, he immediately switched the story and said, oh, he's been making babies, he's been making passes, he's been having an affair with his neighbor's wife. So how does this end? This ends in history being changed. This ends in some lies coming back to haunt, sometimes up to a century or two later, to continue to destroy and smear. Now people will say, well, the DNA evidence,
Starting point is 00:15:32 no, no, no. the DNA evidence did not prove that. The DNA evidence proved that it was someone in the Jefferson family. But where did Kavanaugh get that rumor? He didn't make it up. That rumor was published in a newspaper, in an op-ed. But it wasn't saying that Jefferson did it. It was actually a smear to get people to not vote for Thomas.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Jefferson. But the smear originally was something that apparently people knew in the area. That Thomas Jefferson's brother was a sot. Thomas Jefferson's brother was not a good guy. And Thomas Jefferson's brother was using the slaves as breeders. The original rumor was not about Thomas Jefferson. It was about his brother. But perhaps that wasn't good enough.
Starting point is 00:16:36 for calendar. He needed to build on that. And that smear continues today. So before we all jump to our team jerseys, before we all say, I am absolutely positive, let's just remember that how we behave and what we say and what we do can last centuries
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Starting point is 00:18:58 As we continue with the Kavanaugh story, did you read the story from the New Yorker? Yes. On the new allegation. The new allegation came out last night. It seems pretty bogus to me. You can't get anybody to corroborate. any of these stories.
Starting point is 00:19:14 In fact, you have the opposite. Yeah. She names saying, no, I don't remember anything about that. Right. She names people and male and female. Friends of hers are saying, I don't remember that. And that's completely out of character for Brett Kavanaugh, many of them have said. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:29 But her friends, though, also are saying, I don't even remember this. I have no recollection of this. And those are the people that the second accuser is naming. We know the first accuser had the same problem. And the second accuser. In the story says, well, it took me a few days before I was comfortable saying that it was bread. My memory was so foggy. But after spending six days with my attorneys.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Now she's totally clear. How'd that happen? A cautionary tale when we come back. All right. So now the New Yorker has come out with a news story on Kavanaugh. And it's important that you actually read the story. This is from Rowan Farrow, so he's got credibility in this. And I, for one, am not here to tell you that Kavanaugh is innocent because I don't know him.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I'm not here to tell you that I believe the victims or throw the victims under the bus because I don't know them. All I can do is look at the facts. So let's look at the facts. Here's the latest allegation. Let me just give you some highlights of this. is from the New Yorker. Again, don't take my word for any of this. Read it yourself. The claim dates to 83-84 academic school year when Kavanaugh was a freshman at Yale. The offices of at least four Democratic senators have received information about the allegation, and at least two have
Starting point is 00:21:03 begun investigating it. Republican staffers also learned the allegation last week in conversations with the New Yorker, and they expressed concern about its potential impact on Kavanaugh's nomination. The Democrat Senate offices reviewing the allegations believe that they merit further investigation. Quote, this is another serious, credible, and disturbing allegation against Brett Kavanaugh. It should be fully investigated. Okay. So I want to, I want to, this is another serious, credible, and disturbing allegation. I don't know if this is serious.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Maybe as an allegation goes, I guess it is serious. don't know if it can be taken seriously, but it is not credible, but it is disturbing. The woman at the center of the story is Deborah Ramirez. She's 53. She attended Yale with Kavanaugh, where she studied sociology and psychology. Later, she spent years working for an organization that supports victims of domestic violence. The New Yorker contacted Ramirez after learning of her possible involvement in an incident involving Kavanaugh. The allegation was conveyed to Democratic senators by a civil rights lawyer. For Ramirez, the sudden attention has been unwelcome and prompted difficult choices.
Starting point is 00:22:27 She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with the New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh's role in the alleged incident with certainty. However, after six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, she now felt confident enough of her recollections to say that she remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party and thrust his parts into her face and caused her to touch it without consent as she pushed him away. So for the first 35 years after this incident, she wasn't certain that it was Bright Kavanaugh, but after six days with her attorneys, now she is.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Kavanaugh has already responded, said this did not happen. People who knew me at the time know that this didn't happen. I've said so. This is a smear playing in simple. Okay, so here's this is what she says. They were both freshmen at Yale. She was invited by a friend on the woman's soccer team to a dormant dorm room party. She recalled the party that it took place in a suite at Lawrence Hall in part of the, in part of Yale known as old campus, and that a small group of students decided to play a drinking game together. We were sitting in a circle.
Starting point is 00:24:00 People who would pick, people would pick who drank. rank. Ramirez was the one that was picked repeatedly. She said, I quickly became inebriated. At one point, a male student pointed a gag plastic penis at her direction. Later, she said, she was on the floor, foggy, and slurring her words, as that male student and another stood nearby. Ramirez now has identified the two male onlookers, but at her request, the New York is not naming them. Well, why? Seriously, why?
Starting point is 00:24:39 If this is about justice that this shouldn't be done to a woman, why not name all of the men who were doing this to her? That is a serious question that I think people on the left need to answer. If this isn't just a campaign against him,
Starting point is 00:24:57 and you find her credible enough, why wouldn't you out the other two men, that were involved in this. A third male student then exposed himself to her. I remember a penis being in front of my face. I knew that's not what I wanted, even in that state of mind. That's not a real penis, some of the other students said, laughing at her confusion and taunting her, one encouraging her to kiss it.
Starting point is 00:25:25 She said that she pushed the person away, touching it in the process. She was raised as a devout Catholic in Connecticut, and she said, said she was shaken. I wasn't going to touch one of those until I was married. I was embarrassed and ashamed and humiliated. She remembers Kavanaugh now, standing to her right and laughing and pulling up his pants. Brett was laughing, she said. I can still see his face and his hips coming forward like when you pull up your pants. Now, wait a minute. She is hazy. She's groggy. She doesn't remember it six days ago, she wasn't willing to say that it was Brett Kavanaugh. Now she says, I remember his face. Well, did you not remember his face seven days ago? Sincerely, another
Starting point is 00:26:16 honest question. How come you can remember it clearly now, but a week ago, you couldn't? She then said, somebody yelled down the hall. Brett Kavanaugh just put his penis in Debbie's face, she said. It was his full name. I don't think it was just Brett. And I remember hearing it and being mortified that this was out there. So did he say both names? You say you don't think it was just Brett.
Starting point is 00:26:52 You also say you know it was the first two names. yet you also said seven days ago you don't know for sure who did it, but now you recall clearly his face and not just the first name, but first and last name being shouted. She acknowledged that there are significant gaps in her memories of the evening. If she ever presents her story to the FBI or members of Senate, she will inevitably be pressed on her motivation for coming forward and question about her memory giving her drinking at the party. and yet after several days of considering the matter carefully, she said, I'm confident about the pants coming up. I'm confident that it was Brett. She said,
Starting point is 00:27:35 that's what stayed with her most forthfully is the memory of the laughter her expense from Kavanaugh and the other students. It was kind of a joke, but it was clear to me it wasn't a joke. Now, the New Yorker, now listen to this. This is journalism today.
Starting point is 00:27:51 The New Yorker has not confirmed with any other eyewitness that Kavanaugh was even present at the party. In fact, the opposite. The magazine contacted several dozen classmates of Ramirez and Kavanaugh regarding the incident. Many did not respond to interview request. Others declined to comment or said they didn't attend or remember a party. A classmate of Ramirez, who declined to be identified because of the partisan battle over Kavanaugh's nomination, said that another student told him, about the incident either on the night of the party or in the next day or two.
Starting point is 00:28:28 The classmate said that he is 100% sure that he was told at the time that Kavanaugh was the student who exposed himself. He independently recalled many of the same details offered by Ramirez, including that a male student had encouraged Kavanaugh as he exposed himself. The classmate, like Ramirez, recalled the party took place in a common room in the first floor entry B of Lawrence Hall. I've known this all along. It's been on my mind all these years when his name come up.
Starting point is 00:28:56 It was a big deal. Another classmate, an emergency room doctor in California, recalled overhearing soon after the party, a female student tearfully recounting another student incident at the party involving a gag with a fake penis. You then have the ones that she actually named without naming. One of the male classmates, I don't think Brent would flash himself to Debbie or anyone for that. I have no idea, zero recollection of it. In a statement of the two male classmates who were involved in the incident, she alleged, the wife of a third male student, she said, was involved, and three other classmates.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Now, these were the people who were there in the circle. They all disputed Ramirez's count of the events. We were the people closest to Brett during the first year at Yale. He was a roommate of some of us. We spent a great deal of time with him, including the dorm where this incident allegedly took place. Some of us were also friends with Debbie Ramirez during and after the time at Yale. We can say with confidence that if that incident Debbie alleges ever occurred, we would have seen or heard about it and we did not. The behavior she describes would be completely out of character for Brett.
Starting point is 00:30:09 In addition, some of us knew Debbie long after Yale, and she described, she hadn't described this incident until Brett's Supreme Court nomination was pending. Editors from the New York contacted some of us because we are the people who would know the truth, and we told them, We never heard or saw this ever before. Another former friend said a woman, I'm best friends with this woman. We're best friends. We shared intimate details of our life. I was never told this story by her or by anyone else. It never came up.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I didn't see it. I've never heard of it happening. She was part of the larger social circle, blah, blah, blah. They went on that Debbie and I became good close friends before we arrived at Yale. She was honest and gentle, yada yada, talking about how she has attended their, their weddings and has been at weddings with the so-called accusers, attended their weddings, are not the accusers, but the perpetrators. The people are perpetrators, the people allegedly involved. And they have photographs of her taking pictures, I mean, in pictures, taking, you know, standing side by side, laughing and being with. with Brett Kavanaugh.
Starting point is 00:31:24 So what's the truth? I guess it's just who you believe. And how do you know who to believe? Well, depending on what group you're in, we can go back again in history and we can figure out how people are going to react. For instance, in 1955, it all came down to one woman's testimony.
Starting point is 00:31:52 One woman. She was a white woman. She was a seemingly nice woman. she said that a black boy came in and grabbed her by the waist, said lewd things to her, and touched her. Well, was that true? Well, the boy was Emmett Till. He was brutally murdered.
Starting point is 00:32:13 At the time, the South believed the woman. The town believed the woman. She was a woman of good standing. And in fact, this is what the mother of Emmett Till, said at the time about the accuser. It's my opinion that the guilt begins with Mrs. Bryant, and I want to see Mrs. Bryant punished her husband and any other persons that were in on this thing.
Starting point is 00:32:43 And I feel like the pressure should start from the President of the United States and be channeled all the way down to the township of Money, Mississippi. And I'm certainly of the opinion that inasmuch as my son had to die, that I don't want his death to be a vain thing. If it can further the cause of freedom, then I will say that he died a hero. Now, anyone who wants to say that these two people are just rabble rousers, remember, that's what people said about Emmett Till.
Starting point is 00:33:14 He was just a rabble rouser. For those who are defending the accuser, remember, you're on the same side as she was. you're on the same side as those who let the actual criminals go because they believed her because you have to believe her. She's a white woman. She's a woman of good standing. Little did we know at the time her motivation was her husband was beating her at the time.
Starting point is 00:33:47 She didn't confess until 2008 right before she died. We don't always just automatically believe the accuser. and we have to be careful because people have different motivations. What we have to do is look for the facts. And when there's enough facts, that's when you can move forward. So what is ransomware? Well, it's this nasty software that locks you out of your computer. And then somebody demands ransom money to restore access to it.
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Starting point is 00:35:47 Also, we have Heather McDonald joining us. She is a woman who wrote the diversity delusion, and she's written a few things about this Brett Kavanaugh thing that I think America needs to here. She is, she is somebody that really understands, I think the things that I tried to capture in the book, Addicted to Outrage. She understands that she's been there at the front lines, and maybe she can help us figure out how are we to react, what are we supposed to do, first of all, with this Brett Kavanaugh information that we have. What's the best way to react to that? but she also goes into our children and what we need to be looking for with our children and how we are to look ahead for colleges and universities.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I'm going to talk to Heather McDonald's coming up in just a second. Glenn Beck is coming live to talk about the right path forward and to make fun of the people standing in the way. He might not be able to save the country, but at least we can all go down laughing. Glenn Beck Live, the addicted to outrage tour. On tour this fall. It's Monday, September 24th. This is the Glenn Beck program. Heather McDonald was on with us a couple of weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:37:07 and I was running really late, and we ran out of time, and I was really bummed because she is, she's an amazing, amazing woman. She has the best-selling book, War on Cops. She is also with the Manhattan Institute, contributing editor for the City Journal. She also has her roots in deconstruction
Starting point is 00:37:27 and postmodernism. She's the author of the book, The Diversity Delusion, Heather McDonald, welcome back to the program. How are you? Well, thank you so much for having me on again,
Starting point is 00:37:36 Glenn. It's a real pleasure to talk to you. So we were just getting into some good conversation and we had to cut our conversation short last time. Let me pick it up because you've written
Starting point is 00:37:45 some really fascinating things about Brett Kavanaugh. Bring me up to speed and the audience up to speed on what your thoughts are on this whole map. Well, so far, Glenn, the conservative response has been a completely legitimate one, which is to say that the timing of the charges brought against Kavanaugh are completely spurious shows that this is simply intended to scuttle the nomination as opposed to getting to the truth. There's also been legitimate questions about the credibility of his accuser, Professor Ford, pointing out.
Starting point is 00:38:27 out that the, she has, for somebody who's allegedly traumatized by this allegedly searing event, she can't even remember what year it occurred, where the house was, that this party was, where she was allegedly assaulted by Kavana. Those are very legitimate points to make, but I think it ducks a more fundamental question, which is that even if it were true, what she alleged, Should that outweigh Kavanaugh's clear record in public service and the three and a half decades of life in which he has participated in the public sphere? And I argue that it shouldn't. And again, I'm just putting aside for a moment all the questions of credibility.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I think what we're seeing here is the fruition of the feminist mentality that reverses the, the order of the realm of public action, public ideas, a civilization that is seen as two male, and putting that below issues of eros and personal involvement. As far as I'm concerned, let's take this out of the current Kavanaugh situation. And imagine a hypothetical, from a liberal perspective. One of the most liberal lines of the Supreme Court was William Brennan. He massively expanded the welfare state, the defenses for criminal defendants. If he had, as a 17-year-old, engaged in some boorish, adolescent, aggressive, alcohol-fueled male behavior, would a liberal really say that that one unprecedented and unrepeated incident should undercut a lifetime of contributions to the liberal exposition
Starting point is 00:40:36 of the Constitution. And I would imagine they would say that it shouldn't. So, so, Heather, isn't it, haven't we already decided this as a society, though? Because we, we've already decided that if you are, if you are tried and convinced, of even murder. Your records are sealed because as long as you don't repeat it, what you do under, you know, 18 doesn't, it should not be held against you for the rest of your life. So I'm not saying that he's innocent or guilty. I have no idea. I don't know why we're even discussing it with the, with the amount of evidence that we have.
Starting point is 00:41:18 But even if he is guilty of this, societal law. come from us, society has already said, look, if you're underage, we're not going to hold that against you as long as you've reformed. Well, you know, there's some, if you've committed murder, I think that you are going to be tried as an adult. But if you're clearly right, Glenn, we do have different standards for juveniles. And we are not obviously obeying the law here. you know, the Senate Judiciary Committee is twisting itself into knots to try and accommodate
Starting point is 00:41:57 these last-minute accusations that are being brought forward clearly to torpedo. But even if that were not the case, if juvenile records were not sealed, to me it is simply preposterous to think that a one-time incident as a 17-year-old of aggressive sexual behavior counts more in the life of a public figure, a public intellectual who is involved in the world of ideas, that that counts more than what his contributions have been as a federal judge. And certainly, again, if we want to bring it back into a feminist perspective, which I don't think is particularly relevant, but if we want to say that a public figure, treatment of females should be influential in how we evaluate his public career.
Starting point is 00:42:57 He has been a leader in the treatment of females as clerks. He was the first judge to have an all-female class of clerks. He's had a majority of clerks. His female clerks have been unanimous in testifying to his character. And when you're a clerk for a judge, that's not an easy gig. I mean, it's pressure. you're working together late at night. I mean, if you are a dirtbag, that's the kind of scenario where it comes out, is it not?
Starting point is 00:43:28 Absolutely. You're working late nights. This is the very domain where Eros comes into play. There's plenty of room for sexual harassment, if not actual sexual involvement. And we have heard absolutely nothing. If there had been any hint of this, it would have come out. But again, Glenn, you're... you seem to be moving towards conceding that in some situations this might be relevant.
Starting point is 00:43:55 If it turned out, let's say that James Madison, one of our most important founding fathers, who was one of the prime architects of the theory of the separation of powers, one of the most important contributors to the Federalist Papers, understanding how to try to restrain government power, which was the big accomplishment of the slow patient evolution of constitutional thinking in Europe, if it turned out that he was a skirt chaser, that he had patted the butts of his domestics, again, I argue that is not relevant to his contributions to public life, and to say that it is, to say that we should actually reconsider James Madison's contributions.
Starting point is 00:44:46 and this is a pure hypothetical. Right. I don't agree. I do not agree that that takes away from his accomplishments. However, we're looking at somebody in history, and I don't think we can have revisionist history. I mean, you know, okay, if that's who he was, it's like Winston Churchill. Winston Churchill, was he a good guy or bad guy? Well, if you lived in India, he was a really bad guy.
Starting point is 00:45:09 He lived in Europe. He was a good guy. So which is he? He's both. He's both. We are both flawed and great. at times as human beings. So you just have to look at it on the balance.
Starting point is 00:45:22 You know, if, if Kavanaugh, let's say Kavanaugh has did this, I would look at this as a, something that happened in 1982 and the next thing that I'd have to do is, is there any evidence that he didn't learn from this? If he is still doing it, if he was still doing it, it would matter. but there is no evidence, not only at the two times now that they say, because another one came out last night, the two times, there doesn't seem to be any evidence at all, but it also happened 35 years ago with nothing else. The guy has lived an exemplatory life. well yeah and i guess i'm taking a very absolute out there position uh you're absolutely right i mean this this needs to be stated he has led an exemplary life uh he has been a champion
Starting point is 00:46:22 for women's rights there is apart from this completely groundless charge that came out of the new yorker which all of the people that were allegedly at the party deny uh where he was engaged in the typical drunken boorish hookup culture of, you know, sexual drunken brawling. Even so, I just think that we are, the feminists are trying to take our civilization down, Glenn. They are denying the realm of ideas in public action, which has been male in the past, and saying that the realm of eros, which is a different realm which drives men and women, insane is the realm of catholic desire, that that and women's sort of grudge matches about that should have priority, that we're reversing what I think is the order for how civilization
Starting point is 00:47:22 goes forward. And if they win on this, if they win on this, the feminist war on what is perceived as male civilization is going to become all the more extreme. So, Heather, I want you to go, we're going to take a quick break. And when you come back, I want you to go and talk about something that I read in one of your articles, I think, on the city journal, about how this event, if it did indeed happen, this event, this kind of thing is actually, you know, something that was in a way spurred on by the women's rights movement, by these, this extreme. death of chivalry and, you know, death of all kind of moral standards. I'd like you to go into that because I think that's fascinating. When we come back with Heather McDonald, author of The Diversity Delusion. So if you're trying to sell your home, now is the time to sell it.
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Starting point is 00:49:49 You said something remarkable that the most salient fact about this alleged episode is not going to be discussed. And you go in to say, this is kind of what society was pushing, wasn't it? Well, absolutely. Sexual liberation was based on a complete lie, which is that the male and female libidos are identical, that we could strip away the traditional methods that civilization has developed to tame and civilize the male libido, the ideas of male chivalry, respect for women, uh... gentlemanliness and on the female side the norms of female modesty prudence and ladylike behavior uh... we could strip away those terms we could say that they're oppressive patriarchal
Starting point is 00:50:50 uh... sexist and women and men could meet mono a mono on the sexual battlefield and everything would be great uh... and it turns out that's not the case that what we have on college campuses today is not an epidemic of rape, Pache the Feminist. What we have is a drunken hookup culture where males are now allowed to act as borsal as they want. Females try to catch up.
Starting point is 00:51:21 They drink themselves blotto precisely in order to reduce their sexual inhibitions. And there's a lot of drunken one-night stands. Males are biologizing. wired to want as much sex with as many different females as possible. Females have very different responses to sexual intercourse, biologically, hormonally. They develop feelings of intimacy and yearning for connectedness afterwards. And what happens on these college campuses after these drunken hookups, sometimes the females feel abandoned, or they can, keep up having sex with the guy and and trying to seduce him for months and then decide
Starting point is 00:52:10 after having fallen into the grips of the Title IX bureaucracy and the campus rape, massive administrative industry on a college campus, they retrospectively reclassify their experiences rape, even though they don't even usually report it, and it was largely voluntary, but what's going on now on college campuses, and the New Yorker's story about the party that Yale, Kavanaugh was allegedly at, is a perfect demonstration of what's going on, is sexual liberation having a nervous breakdown?
Starting point is 00:52:54 And now you have this bizarre situation on college campuses where virtually the same students who 30, 40 years ago, said to the adults, get out of our bedrooms, no more oversight from the college administrators, no more in loco-parentis rules. We can handle this ourselves. Now you have students asking the adult administrators to write rules for sex. Are you kidding me? Then these rules, these affirmative consent rules look like something you'd see
Starting point is 00:53:28 for buying a used car or a mortgage contract, for something that is the very realm of the inarticulate, the ambiguous, the fraud, the cathonic, and it is a very, very strange turn of events, and it results from the fact that we have denied the natural differences between the sexes, but the feminists are not willing to say sexual revolution was a mistake. They want to preserve the prerogative of maximal promiscuity for girls, and so they're responding with this bizarre, legalistic response.
Starting point is 00:54:08 And the next step clearly is having a college dean present for every drunken, coital coupling that goes on in a student dorm, so that afterwards, when this comes before the extraordinarily inadequate, but bizarrely, complicated sexual assault tribunal situations, that there can be more third-party evidence. But this is, we are reaping what we sowed in the 1960s. I find it amazing that, you know, what you just outlined was the death of the chaperone because we know human nature is human nature. And so get rid of the chaperone, get rid of everybody. then things, you know, take the course of human nature, and now we're back to more of a legalistic chaperone.
Starting point is 00:55:04 I mean, it's insane. We've made a return journey, except now it's really oppressive and quite frightening for everybody involved. That's absolutely right. And the other thing that we did, Glenn, we used to have the default for premarital sex at no. and it was not ironclad. Obviously, there were plenty of females who opted out of that default in college or elsewhere, but that no gave them power. It meant that when they were forced with an importuning male with surging hormones,
Starting point is 00:55:42 that a no did not have to be negotiated in media race. It was assumed, and the male had to persuade the female to opt out. of the no. The sexual liberation reversed that default. Now, the default for premarital sex on college and elsewhere is yes. And females have to negotiate a no. And what they find, you have even the New York Times' newly formed gender editor. The Times is so far into pursuing the left-wing feminist revolution that they now have an entire bureau devoted to the, covering alleged gender and patriarchy issues. She wrote an op-ed describing sex she had as a 19-year-old with an older man that she admits
Starting point is 00:56:33 was actually not coercive, but she didn't really want to have sex. Okay. But she went along with it because it was too hard to bargain and know out of the situation. All right. Back in just a second with Heather McDonald and the diversity delusion. when we come back. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program. You know, last week I published my book, Addicted Outrage,
Starting point is 00:57:04 and it is kind of a starter's guide into what's happening to us and into the realm of postmodernism. But it is really truly only a starter's guide. If you have read it yet, you need to pick up the diversity delusion. Heather McDonald is, you were actually, you were an academic, it was kind of into deconstruction and postmodernism. Were you not, Heather? To my great regret, I certainly was, Glenn.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I had come to college fascinated by language, and I loved very florid, just strange language of Faulkner and Melville. And deconstruction in the 70s was the hottest thing going, and it purported to be about language, and yet it had a very perverse view of how human beings communicated, and even what the self is. But I was too ignorant to be critical of it at the time. Fortunately, I eventually studied linguistics when I was in England
Starting point is 00:58:06 and went back to start my PhD under my professors in college who were the biggest exponents of deconstruction at the time and realized that everything that I'd learned was not just nonsense. It was literally madness. I wasted so much time pouring. over the works of the academic fraud Jacques Derrida trying to understand them. But it did give me one thing that I'm grateful for, though, Glenn, is that in the 1970s, I was in college before multiculturalism hit the academy. So as perverse as deconstruction was, we read the greatest
Starting point is 00:58:49 authors without anybody thinking to complain about their gonads and melanin. So I read Chaucer, Spencer, Milton, William Wordsworth, Wallace Stevens, and poured myself into the beauty of their language today. A college student is being given a license for ignorance and a license to hate by the faculty and by college administrators who are complicit in this destructive narrative that Western civilization, is the source of all racism and sexism and oppression in the world and that the greatest works of our civilization, if not world civilization, can be rejected simply on the facile ground that the authors or creators or painters or philosophers were not of the students' own gender and race.
Starting point is 00:59:49 This is narcissism, it's closed-mindedness, and it is going to destroy our society and lead possibly to war. Well, I think we're on the verge of that now. I mean, what fascinates me is we have had these new ideas and these, or at least what most of society thinks and new ideas, the Me Too movement even, the cisgender, you know, language that's coming out, all these things. and nobody asks, wait a minute, where is that coming from?
Starting point is 01:00:25 Who's who's printing up words while we sleep? Who's changing definitions while we sleep? This virus, this postmodernist or now social justice combination, has been unleashed on us. And it is, I mean, is there much more of this to unleash on us, Heather? Well, you know, people, I've been. saying that for the last 30 years and it always gets worse. I think
Starting point is 01:00:54 our imaginations are not adequate to imagine what comes next. College now is one ruthless competition in who can be top victim. And, you know, the gays have been pushed aside because that's been
Starting point is 01:01:10 now completely legitimized, rightly, so arguably right, whatever your position is. Now it's trans, but that won't last. I mean, there's going to be some new victim category that will trump the trans category, which we now have 116 and still metastasizing versions of gender. And so what we have on college campuses are students acting out little psychodramas of oppression before an appreciative audience of deanlets and vice-provose of diversity, equity, and inclusion who use the student narcissistic bathos to expand their diminution. people have to pay attention to what's going on in college,
Starting point is 01:01:54 because as you say, Glenn, it is now in the world at large, and it is destroying meritocracy. The sciences are now being subjected to the diversity delusion. Scientific departments are being forced to hire by gender and race rather than scientific merit. It's going to take down our competitive edge, and again, it is producing division unlike anything we've seen before. Well, the diversity delusion is the name of your,
Starting point is 01:02:20 is the name of your book and it's aptly titled. It is a delusion, but I think it's a delusion also on the people who are, on the part of the people who are not involved, because we, we delude ourselves and laugh it off and say, oh, listen to these crazies. These crazies have an enormous amount of power now and are really actually at the front of the dog.
Starting point is 01:02:44 We're at the tail of the dog. And they're feeding in all kinds of crap. and and it is it's changing us and we're dismissive of it and because we're dismissive of it we don't we don't do anything but let me get to that point what do you do what do first of all i just i can under underline what you've said more uh you cannot you cannot ignore this stuff it is being funneled into the so-called real world at a at a disneyed pace by college graduates. They're taking up the corporations. They're occupying the human resources departments. They're occupying the centers of power. When Google fired a computer
Starting point is 01:03:29 engineer James DeMore in August of 2017 for daring to question in a reasoned fact-based ten-page memo, daring to challenge the feminist orthodoxy at Google, when the CEO fired him, He used the exact same language of bathos imported from the academy saying that, well, Google's employees were hurting, that James DeMore had harmed them because of writing a rational argument. This is transforming our world. What we can do, the core fallacy behind the diversity delusion, Glenn, is the idea that racism and sexism is baked into the American ideal. identity and polity, that everything that we see around us is the product of racism and sexism.
Starting point is 01:04:21 That's, you know, the most absurd instantiation of this is on college campuses, which are the most privileged, open-minded in some ways, environments in human history, and students, they are claimed that they're at existential threat. If they can believe that on a college campus, which is preposterous, they can believe it anywhere. But as long as that remains the elite's dominant narrative about America, you're going to have the free speech crisis in the name of protecting these oppressed victims, and you're going to have the assault on meritocracy. So what all of us have to do is to reject at every possible moment and opportunity the idea that Americans today remain fundamentally bigoted and racist. It is true that our history is an appalling one. We were blind for too many decades to the grotesque betrayal of our founding principles, whether it came to slavery or Jim Crow segregation.
Starting point is 01:05:32 But we have changed enormously. And Americans today are ready, more than they ever have been to be post-racial, but the diversity czars on campus and incorporations are not willing to allow us to be such. So, Heather, the one problem that you come across is we are divided now into camps. And I believe there are actually three camps. There are those on the right, a very small number, that want it their way or the highway, and they're not going to take any different. And it's really a totalitarian kind of philosophy.
Starting point is 01:06:08 then you have the antiphon, the leaders of postmodern thought that want to destroy the West. But the third group is about, I think, about 70% of the American population. And it includes independents, Democrats, and Republicans that don't really know what's going on, but they like capitalism. They like the country. They feel the same way. They might differ on policies, but they are not for all of this bull crap. Would you agree with that, or are there only two camps? 70% I think is optimistic.
Starting point is 01:06:45 I think that there are certainly people, very many people who don't agree with that, but we're in a race against time. You know, I still believe in the university's mission, as it was originally conceived. I believe in universities, I think they should be the places where we're down on our knees in gratitude for the accomplishments of our civilization, for beauty, wisdom, but it is the case that as we push more and more people to go to college as they graduate and come out into the world, they are bearing this diversity virus with them, and they are transforming the culture, and they agree.
Starting point is 01:07:23 So do you send your kids to, I and Michael Reckinwald from NYU over the weekend on our podcast, and he said, don't, I wouldn't send my kids to college. I wouldn't, he said, I fact, and never thought I'd be the person saying this. homeschool. I wouldn't put them in any school. Yeah, I mean, we're going to have to get to homeschooling for college soon and recreate the practice of the aristocracy in the 18th and 19th centuries of a tutor, you know, that would take the child on the grand tour of Europe. That would certainly be preferable to what we've got now. The other thing, obviously, that people, your listeners have to do, Glenn,
Starting point is 01:08:01 is do not even think about giving money to your alma mater unless you've given done due diligence and can be confident that it upholds the practice of disinterested, depoliticized study, and is teaching students there the due gratitude that they owe their inheritance. That's very hard to find. I mean, there's not many colleges that you can be 100% confident about University of Dallas, the St. John's campuses Hillsdale. But certainly I was going to say, I think I could do five
Starting point is 01:08:36 And you had three of them Getting close, yeah At the very least, you know, it's hard to get parents to turn down the possibility of credentializing their child But arm him before he arrives on campus And encourage him to not take the trendy courses To try and find something that will
Starting point is 01:08:59 immerse him in greatness and not, you know, creating him either the anger, false anger, or the false sense of guilt, you know, because when a student steps on campus today, all he hears about is toxic masculinity and white privilege. Those are phony ideas that are taking up precious opportunity, you know, to learn something great instead of something debasing and false. Heather McDonald, thank you so much for being on the program.
Starting point is 01:09:33 The name of the book is The Diversity, Delusion, How Race and Gender Pattering, Corrupt the University and Undermine Our Culture. It is absolutely happening. She lays it out very, very clearly, along with the steps that you should take in your own life. Thank you so much, Heather, appreciate it. I'm thrilled to welcome a new sponsor to the program, Relief Factor. excuse me relief factor is a um is a pain reliever if you will it's it actually works on uh your um your um inflammation in your body tanya and i both started taking this last year i think around christmas time and i was just at the end of my rope i just you know you get pain so
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Starting point is 01:11:50 Pat Gray, fellow Texan, do you agree with my statement that if Ted Cruz's, if Ted Cruz loses to Beto, you know, Robert Francis? Yes. That Texas is not really Texas. anymore. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:12:14 It's a, it's, it's shocking to me that this guy even has 5% in Texas. Yeah, I know. He should be, Ted should be 30, 40 points ahead of this guy. He's the anti-Texis candidate. He really is. Against guns. Uh-huh. Police. You know, against police. Just universal health care. He's four. Socialism, borders, all of it. I mean, it's just crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:40 It's crazy. and you see the polls. Do you believe the polls? There was one poll that came out last week. Yeah, that had him up by nine. Right. That had Cruz. Ted Cruz up by nine.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Yeah. It may be that people are starting to hear him speak more and now it's sinking in. Now, we can't have this guy be. Yeah, I don't care how dashing and cool he is. I mean, I just think, especially in Texas, somebody who goes on running for a Republican, that is the darling of the media, that is on Ellen and, you know, Jimmy Fallon, and they're fawning over him, and Hollywood loves him and doing fundraisers, you would think that Texans would be like, okay, all right, no. And I hope that's what's starting to happen.
Starting point is 01:13:27 They had a big debate on Friday. I know. And we're going to go over that and show the rest of the world. If Ted Cruz loses Texas, I think we as a nation may have lost Texas, and that changes things. Glenn back, Mercury. Glenn Beck is coming live to talk about the right path forward and to make fun of the people standing in the way. He might not be able to save the country, but at least we can all go down laughing. Glenn Back Live, the addicted to outrage tour, on tour this fall.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Well, nothing says the patriarchy like prospector Pete. Am I right? Right? I mean, you think of, you know, well, I'm just going to go get some gold. You think of that guy and you're like, oh my gosh. Oppression. The hierarchy. Patriarchy. Living in a wood cabin in squalor in the mid-1800s, fighting every day to achieve the American dream just with a pan.
Starting point is 01:14:26 And I'm just looking for some gold over there. You can see how many people he oppressed. Oh, my gosh. And Alpast prospector Pete, even though he's been dead for, you know, about 100, 70 years maybe You know, the old 49er is back at his old work. He is he's keeping kids on college campuses down. They don't see the hard work in isolation that goes into being an American in the ultimate wilderness.
Starting point is 01:15:00 They don't see the possibilities of achieving a dream. All they see is racism and genocide. President Jane Close, Connolly, said in his statement to the university as our diversity grew and more voices were heard. We came to know that the 1849 California Gold Rush was a time in history when the indigenous peoples of California endured subjugation, violence, and threats of genocide. Today, the spirit of inclusity is reflected in our students, faculty, staff, alumni, and community. Today's beach is not connected to that era. I will tell you this. They're so inclusive that they're going to get and push everybody who disagrees with them away and push them into a closet, or maybe they can beat them,
Starting point is 01:15:46 set them on fire or put them in jail. Recent resolution to the statue removed reads, multiple scholars have cited the California prospectors, also known as the 49ers. Don't get me started because that football team. I'm going after that football team next, but also known as the 49ers as culpable in violent and genocidal acts against the indigenous people of California. Well, I know. I killed families, whole groups of families, using my little mining tin there in the water.
Starting point is 01:16:21 I used it as a deadly frisbee. Prospectors in California perpetrated colonialization, white supremacy, racism, and exclusion ideals, not only against indigenous American communities, but also women, people of color. And dare I say it, non-Protestan communities. The document reads like a neo-Marxist rant straight out of a sociology textbook. Oh, maybe that's because it is. I talk about this in my book, Addicted to Outrage. If you haven't gotten it yet, you must get it today.
Starting point is 01:16:57 It is the beginning of your starter course of understanding not only the world we're living in and the insanity that is going around us, but how to stop it. This is one more example of postmodern social justice, and you cannot ignore it, and you cannot win if you're fighting the way we've been fighting. You must understand what it is, what the goal is, what the desire is, what the desirable outcome, not only for the whole social justice movement, but to get you personally to do. Once you understand that, you're prepared to fight and we will. win.
Starting point is 01:17:39 But this is just another example of postmodern social justice, changing everything we think we know about our world. Well, yes. It's Monday, September 24th. This is the Glenn Beck program. Did you buy any chance here, the podcast that I released Saturday, Pat? No. Would you, if you have time today, spend the time and go back and listen to that
Starting point is 01:18:08 podcast. You can find it on iTunes or Stitcher or wherever you get podcast. And listen to it. It's the Saturday podcast episode three of the Glenn Beck podcast. It's Michael Rectinwald. He is a former NYU professor. I listened to it twice over the weekend. There was so much to learn from that. And the scales fall off your eyes. You're listening to him and you're like, this is a guy who was part of the postmodern world. He was teaching it up until recently. And I, can't remember. It was one of the students seriously said that they were a like a silver wing dragonfly. And that's what they wanted on their records.
Starting point is 01:18:51 That they were a silver wing dragon or dragonfly. And the other was a large and spacious building. And you had to refer to them as a large and spacious building. When you called on them in class? Yes. You can't call a Mr. or a Mrs. He's a large.
Starting point is 01:19:06 That is a large and spacious building. Okay. All right. And he just, he thought it was funny until he realized they were serious. Then he tweeted it out. And the administration and all of his postmodern Marxist friends turned on him. And he, he was a guy who used to write white papers for communists. He was a published communist.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Wow. And he has turned in record time and is now trying to ring the bell to anybody who will listen to him. Please, if you haven't listened to the podcast from this weekend, please, do episode number three wherever you find a podcast Michael Reckinwald I'm guessing he doesn't work there anymore no he doesn't work there anymore wow yeah they actually put him on a a medical leave because they were very concerned about his mental health oh well yeah if you have a problem with somebody identifying as a silver wing dragonfly right and you you think that's unusual right you've got to go
Starting point is 01:20:01 yeah you've got you've got to go you're a haterest you got to get some rest clearly you're mentally unstable. Right. Isn't that crazy? It's unbelievable. It's crazy. It's unbelievable. So tell me about the,
Starting point is 01:20:12 the Beto debate. It happened on Friday. Yeah. Beto and Ted Cruz were debating. Give me some of the highlights. Some of the highlights to me were Cruz hitting Beto on his stance on police because he's so supportive of the kneeling at the NFL football games. Beto is.
Starting point is 01:20:35 what that supposedly represents. Right, right, right. So Cruz was kind of hitting him on those because that, there's not too many things more anti-Texan than going after police or the military. And Beto seems to do that on a pretty regular basis. So this clip is Cruz talking about how offensive Beto has been with his police comments.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Let me say right now, I think it is offensive to call police officers modern day Jim Crow. That is not. Texas. That's your time, Senator. Please, please, audience, please. No applause. What Senator Cruz said is simply untrue.
Starting point is 01:21:16 I did not call police officers modern-day Jim Crow. And I, as well as Senator Cruz and everyone here, mourn the passing of Officer Hall in Fort Worth. My uncle Raymond was a sheriff's deputy in El Paso. In fact, he was the captain of the El Paso County Jail. He's the one who, the tragic shooting death of Botham John. Botham John, you have another unarmed black man killed in this country by law enforcement. Now no member of law enforcement wants that to happen, no member of this community wants that to happen, but we've got to do something better than what we've been doing so far.
Starting point is 01:21:50 If African Americans represent 13% of the population in this country, that they represent one-third of those who are shot by law enforcement, we have something wrong. If we have the largest prison population on the face of the planet and it is disproportionately comprised of people of color we have something wrong in this country republicans and democrats should be able to work together with how would you fix it notice he doesn't say blacks in prison he says people of color yeah because a new study came out and showed this weekend that our our prisons are are made up a great deal by illegal immigrants yes yes hispanic illegal yes immigrants right um not irish like betto Not Irish.
Starting point is 01:22:34 So, yeah, so you have to say people of color if you want your, if you want a comment like that to be anywhere close to accurate. So did he say? He said he in the context of what he was saying, he kind of said that. But of course, he denies that he was talking about the police. But everybody knows when you look at the at his statement in context, yeah, he kind of did compare the police to Jim Crow laws and talked about how we're still going through Jim Crow today. It's just as bad today as it was back in the Jim Prode. That is so offensive to say to police, but also to the African American community. That is not true.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Not at all. To compare what people are going through today, even in the worst sections, to compare it to today, to the 1940s or 30s, Jim Crow laws. It's not even close to that. It's not even close. Yeah. And that's kind of. what Cruz was saying, told Beto in this clip how irresponsible it is that he's saying that about police. I believe everyone's rights should be protected, regardless of your race, regardless of your
Starting point is 01:23:44 ethnicity. But I'll tell you something. I've been to too many police funerals. I was here in Dallas when five police officers were gunned down because of irresponsible and hateful rhetoric. I was at the funeral in Houston at Second Baptist Church where Deputy Gowforth had been shot in the back of the head at a service station because of irresponsible and hateful rhetoric. Just now, Congressman O'Rourke repeated things he knows aren't true. He stated, for example, white police officers are shooting unarmed African American children. The Washington Post fact-checked that claim and conclude Congressman O'Rourke was wrong, but I'll tell you something, that rhetoric does damage. That rhetoric divides us on race. It inflames hatred. We should be bringing people
Starting point is 01:24:29 together. So here's the problem. You can hear it between the two of them. If you're just looking for a guy you like, that is likable. He just seems likable. When you listen to Ted, he sounds like he's a politician. That's the problem with Ted Cruz has been the problem with Ted Cruz for a while. I hope to God we are not the society in Texas at least that is doing a personality. Well, I just like him. I don't know. He just sounds like me. I don't care if they sound like me. I know. I know.
Starting point is 01:25:07 We're looking for somebody who will get things done in Washington that we want them to do. We're looking for people who share our principles and values. I'm looking for somebody to stand by the Constitution. Yeah, please. It's all I want. That would be nice. And Ted Cruz does that. And we all know it.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Even the Houston Chronicle, though, said that Cruz won this debate. Now, they kind of claim that Beto was more like a. just as you just said, but Cruz drew more blood, as they put it. In this knife fight, Cruz drew more blood. And there's a, we've got one other clip here about Beto talking about the unarmed black men. The tragic shooting death of Botham John, you have another unarmed black man killed in this country by law enforcement. Now, no member of law enforcement wants that to happen. No member of this community wants that to happen, but we've got to do something better than what we've been doing so far. If African Americans represent
Starting point is 01:26:01 13% of the population in this country, that they represent one third of those who are shot by law enforcement, we have something wrong. If we have the largest prison population on the face of the... So here's the amazing thing. That wasn't an act of law enforcement.
Starting point is 01:26:17 It wasn't. That was a woman who happened to work as a police officer coming home, being in the wrong place and shooting somebody. It's a strange story. It is a strange story. It's a bad story. I don't think it looks good. charged. She's also been charged with manslaughter. Right. So it's not like she's getting away with it.
Starting point is 01:26:35 She's not getting away with it. Right. And it was not in her daily job. I don't know what happened to her. I don't know what was going on in her mind at that time. She walks into an apartment. She thinks is her. There's some guy. She says, you know, stop talking. Stop moving around. What are you doing? She pulls out her gun and shoots him. That's, that's horrible. horrible for for anybody but she wasn't acting as a police officer she was acting as a citizen at that point and um and she was wrong and she should go to jail i mean just based on what i hear it does sound like manslaughter so she's being charged with manslaughter what else should we be doing that's exactly what should be happening i'm going to talk to a little bit about cryptocurrency, Tika Tuari from the Palm Beach Master Course, the Crypto Master Course. He is a guy who we've been listening to about cryptocurrency. And I have to tell you, I don't know what's happening with the economy.
Starting point is 01:27:51 I mean, Pat, you just saw a story that I saw yesterday. They're saying that in the next few months, they think the next recession is going to be a depression deeper than the Great Depression. I think that's probably true. I don't know what's going to, I don't know what's going to be the straw that breaks the camel's pack. We're just in the longest period of recovery ever, and it's insanity what's happening. And we're also in the biggest debt situation we've ever been in.
Starting point is 01:28:19 I don't mean just the country, you know, as a whole. I mean, individually, individuals too. Bitcoin. They're talking now about the dollar just taking a free fall. I don't know. I have no idea. But I do know this. The dollar in 1964, 65, was, for a $10 bill would buy you about $80 worth of stuff today.
Starting point is 01:28:43 $10 bill. What happened? We devalued our money. That's a hidden tax. Bitcoin. I want you to find out all about Bitcoin. I don't know what the future holds. But I think it's insanity for somebody to not have at least $100 in.
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Starting point is 01:29:40 and the night after that, here in Dallas at the Majestic Theater. We get your tickets now. You can find them at glenbeck.com slash tour. But then we go to Richmond, Hershey, Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, excited to be up in Cleveland, where I think they just found the next president of the United States.
Starting point is 01:29:57 Baker Mayfield? I think so. Yes. I think so. Yes. I mean, I'm not a sports fan. That was incredible. Oh, it was great. That was incredible. Except for those costumes that they wear. I don't like their costumes. The uniform?
Starting point is 01:30:11 Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yes. Those costumes. Yeah. Those costumes.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Anyway, that's November 4th. And Cleveland. We'll have costume talk, Cleveland. November 13th, Kansas City, November 14th, Evansville, Indiana, then Tulsa, Oklahoma, Tampa, Florida, and Orlando, Florida on December 1st. We cannot wait to see you. Make sure you get your tickets now at Getsville, Glenbeck.com slash tour.
Starting point is 01:30:36 You should come with us on the, on the first leg, all through Texas. I think we're just going to do a bus. Yeah, it would be fun. So you're just going to bus to San Antonio, then to Houston, then back to Dallas? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:48 It'll be fun. Yeah. Texas is a great place to see a show, and we invite you to come, and it's going to be a lot of fun. Join us. If you've never seen one of our live shows, I haven't done one.
Starting point is 01:31:00 It's been a while. Six, seven years probably. How longer than that, isn't it? I don't think I did anything since maybe 2010. Yeah, maybe 2010. So join us. It'll be, it will be interesting. And by the way, my apologies, my apologies to one man because I know he is hounded
Starting point is 01:31:23 everywhere he goes. And everywhere Colonel Sanders goes, they're like, he looks just like Glenn Beck. And I feel sorry for him. Yeah. I feel sorry for him. Yeah, I do apologies to Colonel Sanders. Everywhere I go, I'm like, it's like Colonel Sanders.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Is that Colonel Sanders? No. No. Colonel Sanders has been dead for a long time. A long time. I know that kind of, you know. We know that. We thought.
Starting point is 01:31:54 All right. We have still yet to come. We have, I want to talk to you about the, uh, the, some of the, some of the things that are happening all around the country. I want to show you how crazy the elections have gotten around the country.
Starting point is 01:32:15 And I want to make one stop in Arizona with Dr. David Brill. Have you seen this story yet? This is amazing. I think I have a different take on this than most people. So he has six brothers and sisters, Paul Gosar, who's running against Brexar. who's running against Brill. He has six brothers and sisters. And this race or this commercial opens up with them saying,
Starting point is 01:32:44 you know, he would care about health care if he wanted to really save the country. Oh, well, he'd take guns off the streets if he would really care about the country. He would do all these things. And then they introduce themselves. And they're all brothers and sisters of Paul Gosar. Yeah. And so it's a campaign ad for his opponent. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:03 They're saying, don't vote for my. Six of his 10 siblings got together and did this campaign against him. Now, Mom has commented and Mom says she is crushed by that these six have done this to their brother. Can you imagine that? Kind of shows how ugly things have gotten, doesn't it? I think families turning against themselves. Not since the 1960s. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:26 I don't think this happens since the 1860s. You know, you wonder how, you know, the Civil War had people in, in fact, families. Some would fight with the north. Some would fight with the South. And they were killing each, literally killing each other. I don't think I've seen this since then. But I have a perspective on this that I want to share with you because I think it actually backfires on Brill. And I'd love to get your thoughts on it. Next. All right. There is a, uh, there's an ad in Arizona that has come out against a, uh, Republican, Paul Gozar. And, It is a Democratic ad.
Starting point is 01:34:08 And can we play the ad, please? I want you to listen carefully. Paul Gloucester, the congressman isn't doing anything to help rural America. Paul's absolutely not working for his district. If they care about health care, they care about their children's health care. They would hold him to account. If they care about jobs, they would hold him to account. If he actually cared about people in rural Arizona,
Starting point is 01:34:35 I bet he'd be fighting for social security for better access to health care. I bet he would be researching what is the most insightful water policy to help the environment of Arizona sustain itself and be successful. And he's not listening to you and he doesn't have your interests at heart.
Starting point is 01:34:55 My name is Tim Gosar. David Gosar. Grace Gosar. Joan Gosar. Gaston Gosar. Jennifer Gosar. Paul Gosar is my brother. My brother.
Starting point is 01:35:03 And I endorse Dr. Brill. Dr. Brill wholeheartedly endorse Dr. David Brill for Congress. Jeez. Oh, wow. What's your initial reaction? It's ugliness. It's, uh, um, I,
Starting point is 01:35:23 of course it's, it's the typical tactic that if he cared about things, he would go about them exactly the way I think he should. Yes. Rather than, there's another way to do this. There's another way to care about people. There's a completely different way, another path to our goals.
Starting point is 01:35:43 One of them that was talking about the environment. I mean, how many times have we heard this in our own families? Somebody like that. And she was talking about, you know, if he really cared about the environment in Arizona, I don't think that that's Arizona that she's sitting in. That looked an awful lot to me like Colorado. And so I don't, I don't,
Starting point is 01:36:03 I don't think she was sitting in Arizona. But beside the fact, I think this is going to play the opposite way. Because I think maybe I'm old-fashioned and I just don't know anymore. I think there's a lot of us who have put up with this in our own family or our own in-laws for quite some time. You know, we all have either family or in-laws who are those pretentious, holier than thou liberals that talk down to us, treat us like garbage. I mean, I remember I had a situation in my in-law family where it was during the Reagan administration. So it was not your current in-law family. No.
Starting point is 01:37:01 No. And we don't need to go. We didn't need to go into this path. But it was during the Reagan administration. And she was just going on and on and on and on about Ronald Reagan and how evil he was and how could you vote for him. And I'm trying to be nice. And I'm like, look, you know, I got to the point where I said, you know, this is, this is my house. Stop.
Starting point is 01:37:27 Stop right now. You're a guest in my home. stop it right now. No. And I think people have been in those situations where, you know, the family disagrees and there's this split and it's really sad. And I, for one, this would make me want to vote for him. Go, sir.
Starting point is 01:37:48 I would actually look at that and go, oh, dear, God, brother, you've got, I know what your, I know what your whole life has been like. Yeah. I know what a nightmare of your Thanksgiving gatherings. Oh my gosh. And the fact that mom came out and spoke against the siblings that did this. Yeah. I mean, when mom comes out and says, I'm ashamed and I'm heartbroken that they would do this, that's saying something.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Yeah. I mean, how can I hold them up to be, oh, the great moral standard? Really? You've just broken your mother's heart. Is there anything worse that you can do? And he's handled it pretty well, actually. You just said, you know, I love my brothers and sisters. but they're big anti-Trump people.
Starting point is 01:38:32 That's a pretty calm, pretty reasoned, measured response to what they're doing to it. When you put your politics over your family and over your mother, that is, I just, I don't even know what to say. My sisters don't all agree with everything that I say. My one sister, she's a, you know, a hippie and, you know, she's not actually. actually, but she doesn't, you know, she doesn't agree with everything I say. I don't agree with everything she says. We get along, you know, and if we didn't, I can't imagine. But if you ran for office, she certainly wouldn't campaign against you.
Starting point is 01:39:16 No. No. It's one thing to say, look, you don't know my brother. My brother is a hot head nightmare, whatever. Yeah. Okay. My brother has secrets in his past. and we as a family want to you to know.
Starting point is 01:39:30 That's one thing. That's one thing. But when you just disagree ideologically. What difference than... That's awful. What makes your opinion more important, you're playing on the family name. That's just wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:45 It's wrong. And I, again, I don't know. I think that they are going to... You think people will go the opposite direction because of that ad. it'll backfire on them. You don't? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Things are so contentious and we're such, you know, team choosers now. And if you're on one team, you just can't, you can't support the other team no matter what. So I don't know. I hope so. So what's it going to be? Somebody asked me this last week. They said, okay, so your thesis is that we're addicted to outrage. Yes, we are.
Starting point is 01:40:24 And we're addicted to politics and we just can't. I mean, we'll betray our families. We'll betray our families for our politics. There's no reason in that. I mean, you know, that's just, that's just blind rage on what's what's happening. And we both feel it. They said, so what's the bottom? Because everybody has to hit a bottom.
Starting point is 01:40:50 And I said, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what the bottom is. Because the bottom that we're headed for is a crash of biblical proportions. You know? Yeah. It's this financial wreckage that is just going to leave all of us blind. And when that happens, I don't think we wake up.
Starting point is 01:41:11 I think we go deeper. I think we're, we are then the people saying, no, no, no, I need a handout. I need, I need the government. Oh, I think so, too. I don't think we, I think if we don't hit bottom before a crash, when we do crash, we destroy it all. And, you know, we're in this area of nastiness to each other. Like, you know, over the weekend, you tweeted out a legitimate question to Alyssa Milano.
Starting point is 01:41:39 You asked her a genuine question. Yeah. And she came back with nothing but snarkiness. They just, it can't. Well, here's what. So, so she had, she had posted something along the lines that, let me see, here it is. Let me see if I can go back to her original. tweet. Because wasn't she
Starting point is 01:41:57 was it was about the Kavanaugh thing, right? Yeah. And she said, you know, she fully believes him. I fully believe him. The accuser. Right. I fully believe her. I fully believe her. Yeah. And so I tweeted. Why? I asked this with all sincerity and do not wish to fight as I do want the bad guys to go to jail and my daughter's never to face this. But I don't want my son or my daughters to live in a world without reason or evidence. That world is why many innocent blacks have gone to prison. That's great. Reasonable.
Starting point is 01:42:28 It's wrong with that. Yeah. So she writes, so Glenn Beck, you want prison reform and an FBI investigation of Kavanaugh starting to sound like a progressive. Welcome to the resistance. No. No, that's not what I said. And you didn't answer the question.
Starting point is 01:42:43 So I wrote back, why respond to a sincere inquiry with a red meat response? I do think prison reform is needed and I have for many years. Please respond. sincerely, I am for, I should say, I am neither for or against Kavanaugh. I am for truth, justice, and decency. If the rolls would reverse, would your position reverse as well? The roles have reversed. We've got a clear indication of that already with Keith Ellison.
Starting point is 01:43:16 They don't believe anything that the accuser says. Five percent of Democrats believe the accuser in the case of Keith Ellison. Why? Because he's a Democrat. Brett Kavanaugh is a Republican, so they wholeheartedly believe his accuser. But she has, when it comes to Keith Ellison, she has evidence. Yeah. She has witnesses.
Starting point is 01:43:36 She has people that have corroborated what she has said. Correct. She has her, I think it's her son that has corroborated it. She has text messages. She has emails. She has a video. She has all of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:49 And they don't believe her at all. They don't believe her. And these two accusers have nothing. I mean, it's just, it's, it's amazing. It's really hard to stay calm. Mm-hmm. But we have to, we have to be the reasonable ones where the others who are starting to wake up say, I don't want to be with those people, because those people are, those people are jerks.
Starting point is 01:44:12 Those people don't make any sense. They're mean. They're angry. I want to be over with these people. And I don't know how many people we can get. But if you, if you don't, if you don't. If we don't start to develop a group where decent people can gather, be safe from all of this insanity, not slash each other's throat, not be about vindictiveness and venom, but be about reason and truth and science. If we can be those people, we're the ones remaining standing because the other two sides will kill each other.
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Starting point is 01:47:15 from an open-minded source right Melissa Milano Glenn Beck is not for truth or justice a few minutes ago on his radio show he just compared Brett Kavanaugh to Emmett Till Did I do that?
Starting point is 01:47:29 No. No, you did not. I did not. No. That's disgusting. A young black kid accused of rape and brutally killed because of racism and fear, not comparable. Wait a minute. Hold it.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Wait, I didn't compare and I don't compare. But you're saying, Emmett Till, a young black kid accused of rape and brutally killed because of racism and fear. Well, this is a older white guy that is also being accused basically of rape and his career is being killed. Now, yes, it's not the same, and I'm not comparing them, but they're both accused of rape. And in the Emmett Till, this is where I did draw the comparison. Whenever we just listen to a popular voice or the voice that is convenient, in this case, with Emmett Till, it was a white woman. and the white woman was part of the power and she was part of the, you know, the system down in the south. They listen to her.
Starting point is 01:48:36 Do we have time, Sarah, to play Emmett Till's mother? This is what she said. Right after they killed and they're trying to find the people that were responsible. And the accuser, a white woman, comes out and says he, he tried to touch me and he put his arms around my waist and said nasty things to me. His mother said that wasn't true, but everyone was listening to the white woman who had no evidence, just her word. Listen to what Emmett Till's mother said.
Starting point is 01:49:08 It's my opinion that the guilt begins with Mrs. Bryant, and I want to see Mrs. Bryant punished her husband and any other persons that were in on this thing. and I feel like the pressure should start from the President of the United States and be channeled all the way down to the township of Money, Mississippi. And I'm certainly of the opinion that inasmuch as my son had to die, that I don't want his debt to be a vain thing. If it can further the cause of freedom, then I will say that he died a hero. Further the cause of freedom.
Starting point is 01:49:45 So what is she saying it would be he would die then? a just death. If he furthered the cause of freedom. Well, if you want to see what further the cause of freedom, look at all of the facts. Take emotion out of it. Take your own political agenda, no matter what it is, out of it. Look at the facts.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Don't just take one voice of an accuser and put more stock into that accuser's voice because she's either saying the things that you like or want to hear, or she's standing up against somebody that you don't like. That's not justice. If we are going to say that Emmett Till died for a reason, we must then look at facts of every case. Glenn, back. Mercury.

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