The Glenn Beck Program - Our Defense Secretary Was Hospitalized & Biden DIDN’T KNOW?! | Guest: Rep. Chip Roy | 1/8/24
Episode Date: January 8, 2024While Biden boasts his DOJ has sentenced January 6 attendees collectively to over 840 years in prison, Glenn sets the record straight on the government's horrific response to that day. What is going o...n with Biden's temper? Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to discuss the oddity of nobody knowing Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin was in the ICU, not even President Biden. Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) joins Glenn to discuss a newly proposed bipartisan budget that does nothing to fix the border. Glenn discusses the story of Colony Ridge as BlazeTV is set to release a documentary exposing the truth behind the number of illegal immigrants living in the community. Glenn and Stu discuss the good and bad of Spanish military general Francisco Franco, but one gravely outweighs the other. Stu goes through the latest 2024 election polling and what it could mean for the outcome of the presidency. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Is Stu not here yet?
It's Stu not here!
Oh, I miss Stu. Is he?
Hi, Stu.
Hey, Glenn. How's it going?
Really bad. Okay.
but at the same time pretty good.
The moot swings of President Biden are terrifying.
People say, you know, Donald Trump, I mean, he could get out of control and go for vengeance.
What the hell do you think is happening right now with Joe Biden?
Did you see the speech he gave or January 6th?
As much of it as I could take.
And I did realize watching it that the real tragedy of January 6 for the Democrats is that in an election year,
it fell on a Saturday so that no one was paying attention because this is their whole,
those is their whole idea.
Their whole campaign was to talk about January 6 constantly and that everyone missed the big
speech this weekend because no one could.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I know.
Well, I mean, there was at least one person that I've never heard of on MSNBC that
was sobbing.
He really had a hard time getting it together.
Hey, Sarah, do you have like, I don't know, the Glenn theme or something, you know,
something that's very, very stirring that you could play the MN?
NBC clip where the the anchor is talking to a Capitol police officer and powerful.
It's very powerful.
Is Michael.
No, no, not that theme.
Not that theme.
You know, Glenn's theme, that, that,
America, the beautiful kind of thing.
Oh.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
There we go.
Mail and down.
Former D.C. Metropolitan Police officer,
courage for America, council member, and author of Hold the line, the insurrection,
and one cop's battle for America's soul.
Officer Fanon, I'm going to try to get through this.
Oh, no.
Thank you for what you did three years ago today.
Look at the cop who's looking at this guy.
He's like, what the hell is happening?
What?
I'm not here. I'm invisible. I'm invisible. I'm invisible.
Okay. Well, it was a very scary, scary time on January 6th for, well, especially Ashley Babel.
but let's not talk about that.
Very, very scary thing.
And here's what the president said in his speech.
Today we gather in a new year.
There we go.
Some 246 years later,
just one day before January 6th.
A day forever shared in our memory
because it was on that day
that we nearly lost America.
Lost it all.
Lost it all. Today we're here
to answer the most important of questions.
Is democracy still America's
sacred cause.
No, the republic is.
The republic is. But, I mean, it's cute
with that democracy thing, seeing that you're president
in the United States.
And then he goes on to celebrate
sending January 6ers to prison.
Go ahead. Since that day,
more than 1,200 people
have been charged for the assault
in the capital, nearly 900 of them.
Okay, stop, stop, stop. Hold on just a second.
1,200 people have been,
convicted of assaulting the capital.
No, actually, it was trespassing.
He was trespassing.
So let's just keep that in mind.
What they were actually charged with was trespassing.
Now let's go to the second half of that after conviction.
Collectively to date, they have been sentenced to more than 840 years in prison.
Yay.
That sounds like a democracy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
More prison time.
More prison time.
Instead of calling them criminals, he's called these exerate these insurrectionists, patriots.
Okay.
Stop.
Stop.
No, they, in no court documents, in no court case, are they being convicted or tried for insurrection?
None of them, none of them have been charged and convicted of insurrection.
So where are we getting in?
all this insurrection stuff. Where is that? Where's that happening? If that's what they did,
then fine, charge them with that. And I think you could make a case for a few of the people that I saw.
You could make that case. But for the vast majority of it, you know, parading shouldn't get you a
couple of years in prison. Trespassing. Shouldn't. And then you have the attorney general going out or
the U.S. attorney who's in charge of this case going out and basically saying, we're going to charge
the people who were even outside of the Capitol.
Cut ten.
An important note when it comes to our prosecutions about those who remained outside the building.
We have used our prosecutorial discretion to primarily focus on those who entered the building
or those who engaged in violent or corrupt conduct on capital grounds.
But if a person no only entered the restricted area without authorization, they had already
committed a federal crime.
make no mistake
thousands of people occupied
in the area that they were not authorized
to be present in in the first place
okay so that is the
fence
that is outside of the capital
that was taken down by somebody
who was clearly an operative of something
so when you went past
that fence which was now laying
in the dirt and you couldn't
see and it seemed like
it was okay to go by
you were committing trespass
passing. You were outside. You weren't doing anything, but you were standing there.
You're now, and so they're going to go after, they're actually going after more people as the,
as the polling on this gets worse and worse and worse. And as the evidence gets worse and worse and
worse for the prosecution, when you start to see the tapes, I don't know, did you see what
Laura Logan did on her show. Did you see this? Really, really credible work from Laura Logan on this.
You see it, Pat, or Stu? I did not see anything from Laura Logan now. Oh, my gosh.
Lara is talking to this. She just released it, I think, on Saturday. She's talking to this woman I've
never heard of. And she was beaten and clubbed, Billy clubbed by three.
three cops, police officers from the Capitol police, in a hallway of the Capitol. And she's not
doing anything. She's trapped in the crowd. And these three police officers target her and beat
her in the head. One of the police officers takes a closed fist and hits her repeatedly five
times in the head. Then she's thrown head first into a stone wall. She doesn't even remember any
of this because the beating was so bad. Then they start beating her with Billy Clubs and stabbing
her with Billy Clubs. She's not doing anything. It's a horror show, an absolute horror show.
The whole thing is misleading too, which is amazing. I mean, the two things they wanted to get done
after the January 6th situation was one call it January 6th.
So there'd be this anniversary every year.
They could come out and have these speeches and have have like a September 11th annual event
where they could talk about the horrible tragedy that went on.
And secondarily, they wanted to use the word insurrection.
We talked about this at the very beginning.
They used that word immediately knowing that they would later on use it to take Donald Trump
off of the ballot and try to make him.
So very well.
planned and and pushed. It's like when people during COVID immediately all of them together started
saying, you know, it's like we need a great reset. Wait, where did that come from? All of a sudden,
everyone's calling for a great reset and the new normal. That's weird. Where did that come from?
Same thing happened with insurrection. And that insurrection word is crucial to the Constitution.
crucial. That's why they're taking them off these ballots in these states. And Glenn, you mentioned, like, what does he say? You know, 1,200 people have been, you know, been charged and arrested because of insurrection and all of this. And it's like, the actual stats are comical, even when it comes to this, they're having 1,240 people arrested. Now, there's 350 cases are still pending. So we don't know how those are going to turn out.
four years into it.
Yeah.
They've convicted, Glenn, 170 people of the 1,140.
Two people have been acquitted, and the rest have pleaded guilty.
Now, okay, so you have 710 people who have pleaded guilty.
Among those, only 210 have pleaded guilty to felony offenses.
So you have people, about 450 of them.
were sentenced to periods of incarceration, ranging from a handful of days to more than 20 years.
So when you look at it more specifically here, you have, you know, as you pointed out,
there are some people in this crowd that were not really just in the crowd, right?
They really did have ill intent, and there's some evidence that some of them did some really bad
things.
But generally speaking, a lot of these people are just in the area, maybe broke a rule,
broke a law and maybe deserve a slap on the wrist to some of them. But generally speaking,
you're talking about minor offenses that they pleaded guilty to without even a trial and then
also went to a place where they're not even going to prison. These are such minor offenses
that they might be a fine or probation. Look, that doesn't mean it's nothing. I'm not saying it is.
We don't, we're not trying to downplay what happened on the day. But like this idea that there's
1,200 people who tried to overturn the government is so completely insane and overblown that
you lose all context of what actually happened on January 6th.
Correct.
And let me just point out that grandma should be in jail for maybe a couple of years.
But Ray Epps, I mean, let's give him a slap on the rest.
Of course not.
Do we ever talk about that when he was actually sentenced and got, what was it, six months,
three months?
Something ridiculous?
Ray Epps has, they have him on video doing all the things they accuse others of doing and then some.
And people were like, well, what, what happened there?
That's clear what happened there.
This is a guy who's got to pay some time.
He's got to.
They tried to brush him off, make him disappear.
And it wouldn't go away.
So we're going to try him.
And we're going to give him a very gentle slap on the wrist.
So you.
stop that narrative and you protect him from another administration coming in and going,
oh, we're still working on this.
Why don't we really look into Mr. Epps and see what happened there?
This is a way to get him for double jeopardy.
Can't be tried second time for what he did.
So you only got six months.
This is, it's sick.
When we come back, I want to play the audio of Joe Biden,
where he got very, very angry, very angry.
And it's a little terrifying, quite honestly.
We'll talk about that in 60 seconds. Stand by.
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some might say that it's a little angry.
About 19.
We have to make our choice.
I know mine and I believe I know America's.
We'll defend the truth, not give him into the big lie.
We'll embrace the Constitution of the Declaration, not a lot.
abandoned it.
Geez.
We'll honor the sacred cause of democracy.
Not walk away from it.
No, that wasn't, that wasn't the clip.
Do we not have the clip where he just looks, I mean, he looks insane.
Do you find his, do you find the ups and downs of the emotions when he's speaking to be real?
Yes, I do.
You do.
Okay.
I'm not sure.
I'm a little torn on it.
I feel like at times he's forcing it because he's trying to be, uh,
some sort of, he's trying to like capture the energy and, I don't know.
Maybe.
He's trying to like show the emotion of that moment.
I find it, the clip I saw this weekend where he was just squinting and angry was terrifying
because I felt he, maybe he is just acting, but it was unhinged, absolutely.
unhinged.
And I don't know.
That's what happens to people with,
you know, senility.
They have wild
mood swings and get very,
very angry.
And didn't like it.
Didn't like it. Didn't like it. Didn't like it at all.
Now, here he is after the speech.
He leaves the stage. Cut 20, please.
Wow.
All right.
Jill comes out and grabs his hand
because he's staring like a deer in headlights,
and she grabs his hand and walks around the corner.
She's just escorting about.
As soon as they get around the corner, she drops his hand.
But he doddles off like he's a toddler.
Is it possible he was just walking away from the Coldplay song?
Is that a possibility?
No, that's a very good possibility.
Yeah, right.
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He's looking into helicopter.
He's looking around, like, where do I, are my toys?
Where am I going to, I got to,
is anybody in the helicopter?
I don't know.
He's walking back now.
Hey, do you know where I'm supposed to go?
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What are you looking for, sir?
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I, for one, I'm stunned.
They didn't tell him that the Secretary of Defense was in the hospital.
I was shocked.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
I'd be shocked if they told him because it would lead me to believe he was actually running the country.
You know, the question is, did Barack Obama?
Did they notify Barack Obama?
Right.
As long as they were notified Barack Obama, then we're fine.
We're fine.
You know, it's not under control.
That, that Lloyd Austin thing is, again,
disturbing.
I don't, I, I, I have never, I've never seen any of this stuff before.
I'm trying to impress if you're, if you're a new listener and you're just kind of like,
you know, coming in, you're like, well, I don't know, I want to check this out.
I mean, maybe something is going on in the country.
And especially if you're, you know, 30, 35, none of this is normal.
I just want you to know, none of this happened before 2000.
before the year 2000, none of this was going on.
I mean, corruption was, don't give you.
Corruption was always a big part, but not at this level.
And, you know, it never really saw the president kind of dawdle around,
dawdle around under, you know, giant blades that are spinning above his head where he's like,
you know, maybe I got a cupcake.
Did somebody leave a cupcake over there?
Is that my cupcake over there?
Oh, well, I wish I was.
was wearing my bathing suit.
I don't know.
Little disturbing.
Maybe.
Just a bit.
Let's see.
We have one minute.
Enough time just to play this.
This is the D.C.
Mayor, Bowser, explaining why she supports taking Trump off the ballot.
Cut seven.
Lots of conversation about the 14th Amendment nowadays,
directly connected to the actions of Donald Trump in the lead up to this day three years
ago and what he did on that.
day, January 6th. Do you think he should be barred from any ballots given his actions on January 6th?
Well, I support every state taking very aggressive action to keep him off the ballot.
No way.
He is undergoing, you know, court action across America. And I don't know that we have ever had a
situation, actually, I do know that we've never had a situation where sitting president could be a
convicted felon. And so the uncertainty that people are going to the ballot with is also unprecedented.
Is he going to be on the ballot or not? Is he going to be disqualified? Are people going to vote for someone
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
We also welcome the one, the only Pat Gray, to the program now.
And my executive producer, Steve McGere.
Hello, Stu and Pat, how are you?
Hello.
I'm actually not the only one.
There's a realtor named Pat Gray that if you Google him, he'll pop up there too.
Wow.
Yeah, I'm not the only one.
Wow.
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I'm in West Palm.
Thanks to the whole staff at 1290 WJNO for putting up with me for the next couple of days.
I'm here on some business and I will be back on Wednesday, Wednesday morning show.
So, Pat, do you think it's a big deal at all that Lloyd Austin was in intensive care?
Right?
No.
There's nothing.
Why should the president of the United States know about that?
I mean, there's no reason for him to know that the guy's in intensive care for four days.
Why would you need to know that?
Hang on just a second.
It's, you know, the president doesn't need to know.
No.
You know, because he's not making the decisions.
Let's be.
No, we just have, you know, the potential.
Was Barack Obama informed? That's what we need to find out.
Amen. Amen.
Now, we have two, you know, theaters of war that we're fighting simultaneously in right now.
Yeah.
Ukraine.
And, you know, in the Persian Gulf where I believe Iranians are still launching rockets at our ships.
Was there no time in the last seven days where somebody was.
like, you know what, let's call the Pentagon.
Let's see if we have permission to do this.
Was there no time? Really?
Yeah. No.
Huh.
Mm-mm.
Oh, that's...
And we still don't even, at least I haven't heard, the reason behind the hospitalization.
He went in for elective surgery.
Correct.
And then had complications.
What was the elective surgery?
What other complicate?
Well, it's private, his privacy.
No, I'm sorry.
When you're the defense secretary, you don't get medical...
And you could say, oh, hang on just a sec, you could say he went in for an elective surgery.
You know, you having his hemorrhoids removed.
I don't need to know about the amoroids.
But, you know, so he's going in for elective surgery.
It's no big deal.
He should be fine.
Then complications happened.
Okay, wait.
What complications?
Is he okay?
How out of it is he?
Right.
When's he going to be returning?
And, of course, the president needs to know.
No one at the White House was informed when he was brought into ICU.
And I love this.
The Deputy Secretary of Defense, who was to assume the responsibilities, she was in Puerto Rico on vacation.
So for days, she was the acting Secretary of Defense, but she didn't even know it.
You're like, I'm here in Puerto Rico.
I mean, do we have phones here?
I mean, what could I possibly do about it?
And they're like, oh, well, you know, Austin approved this.
before he had the surgery.
It's like, okay, well, sometimes things change.
Like, what if they had surrendered in the interim?
What would have happened?
It's bizarre.
What's happening in the Red Sea with the Navy, and, you know, we're shooting drones out
of the sky like Skeet, and no one needed to get permission to do it.
That just didn't happen in a week.
I mean, you want to talk about a sock puppet regime.
it must be this. Who's making the decisions?
Yeah. You know, Glenn, I talked to two people about this randomly as it was developing.
And, you know, both of their reactions were the same.
Well, I mean, you almost understand that they wouldn't tell Biden because, you know, he's out of it.
But like, well, how do people in the Pentagon not know?
And it's like, how are we not recognizing that statement is a massive problem?
Yes.
The American people are actually in a position where they think it's normal that the president of the United States just is so out of it.
they wouldn't tell him that the Secretary of Defense was in ICU.
Yeah.
With two fronts being fought right now, two.
Mm-hmm.
This is a major problem that's been going on, though, for a while.
I mean, look what happened to Mitch McConnell,
and we were never told what his deal is either.
No.
I mean, the American people have no right to know anything about our leadership.
It's amazing.
I mean, we're told that was dehydration.
He freezes twice on two separate occasions, and that's dehydration.
I've been dehydrated before.
How many times do you freeze?
A total of...
Carried the one.
None.
Zero.
Zero.
Zero times.
Zero times.
Because you carried the one and everything.
I mean, where are we now as a nation?
It's astounding.
What we're seeing is a show.
And it's becoming more and more obvious.
When the president just doesn't have to
doesn't have to be aware, notified, when our leadership can be wildly impaired, when, what's her name from
California, when they were whispering into her ear, just vote yes.
Yeah.
We're not being represented by the people we are being, what we are putting into office.
Somebody else is representing themselves, not us, themselves.
How does this happen?
There's no chain of command, none?
I mean, shouldn't that bother everybody?
Yeah.
You know, Democrats.
You know, just, hello.
Yeah, I mean, and look, we were honest, to bring up Pat's example, all of us called out the Mitch McConnell thing as completely unacceptable when it happened.
And he should not be in the Senate.
I stand by that.
It should not.
Me too.
He should be gone.
Yes.
They need to put somebody else in there.
You can't have two of those moments and continue in that job.
Nope.
It's totally separate from whether you think he's.
doing a good job or not, or whether you think he's passing bills that you like or not,
it doesn't matter.
It's the country we're talking about.
And watching the way this is going down is not only like disturbing and makes you question
all sorts of things.
It's also just utterly embarrassing.
It's embarrassing that we have a president who can't find the jet he's supposed to go on.
He can't figure out which side of the stage to walk off.
No, his wife has to come out.
and escort him off stage.
It's embarrassing.
It's embarrassing.
This is supposed to be the world's superpower we're talking about.
Not like a sketch comedy troupe.
And that's what it seems like we're sitting in the middle of right now.
Here's something from the Wall Street Journal, because this is very, very important.
The world's wealthiest person has used LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, psychedelic mushrooms,
often in private parties around the world where the attendees sign non-disclosure agreements or give up their phones to enter,
according to the people who have witnessed his drug use and others with knowledge of it.
Well, then you're in, I mean, I believe you would be in violation of your non-disclosure agreement,
but maybe that's just me.
Mosk has previously smoked marijuana in public and he said he has a prescription for the psychedelic ketamine.
So what they're talking about in this article is illegal drug use, that's a violation of federal.
policies and NASA is very concerned about it.
Okay, that that could jeopardize SpaceX billions of dollars in government contracts.
Oh, no.
This, they are coming after this guy.
Oh, big time.
Again.
Now, by the way, so you know, when Elon Musk went on to Joe Rogan a few years ago and
was smoking pot, the, the, uh, NASA came and said, hey, we're a little concerned.
you know, are you doing illegal drugs?
And he's like, you know what?
You can test me anytime.
So he does random drug screening for, I think he had to do it for three or four years
because NASA said we want to make sure that you're not on drugs when we're launching things.
So this isn't even an issue.
Why is the Wall Street Journal?
We don't care that the president is so lost on stage.
He's the guy that has to make the decision.
Or is he?
If we go to war.
And the second guy who is in that chain of command, the Secretary of Defense, he's in ICU for a week and nobody knows it.
And you're worried about the drug use that you're already testing Elon Musk for.
Otherwise, he might.
Maybe he should lose his federal funding.
My gosh, everything is upside down.
Yeah.
And we have people in office who don't even understand what kind of government.
they have been elected to.
You know, the Gene Chaheen quote over the weekend, the tweet that she sent out about Ben Franklin
saying that he said, we've got a democracy if you can keep it.
Oh, my gosh.
She did not.
Yeah, she did.
I mean, that just shows you.
In the U.S. Senate, a democracy if you can keep it.
That's not what it is.
That's not what we are.
No.
No.
That just shows you are.
either so stupid or you know exactly what you're doing.
That's what I think it is. And I think that too. You can't know that quote and think it was
democracy. No, you can't. I mean, the whole point of that quote is it's a republic and those are
hard to keep. It's incredible. It's, again, it's embarrassing and it's incredible. But there is a
concerted effort to make this into a democracy. They've been trying to get us used to that phrase
for years now.
I mean, they are really pushing it hard, really pushing it.
So tell me both of you.
There is a story here.
Yeah, J.P. Morgan, one of the big guys at J.P. Morgan Chase has just come out.
He's a strategist.
Come out and he's predicted the presidential race.
And it goes to Joe Biden.
He says, no, no, no.
his prediction goes to Joe Biden pulling out of the presidential race.
He says he's going to drop out after Super Tuesday and cite health reasons as he faces dismal poll numbers.
You buy that?
I don't think that's going to happen, but I hope it does.
I mean, it should.
Who do you want?
Who do I want?
Who do I want?
Yeah, who are they going to give it to?
Yeah, who are they not want, but who you think they're going to give it to?
I think they'd turn to Gavin Newsom.
They'll try to get Michelle Obama, but I don't know that she wants it.
I don't think she does.
And so they'll have to turn to Gavin Newsom if that happens.
And I don't think Gavin Newsom wins.
I don't think there's any way.
California is in too bad a shape, and he's overseen it all.
So I don't even know why you would consider him as an option.
It's so weird.
It's like they, I mean, there are hard.
You could find Democrats that maybe have untouched resumes and maybe think that they're good candidates.
I mean, Newsom's been terrible on everything.
He's, his entire city is falling apart.
His entire country is falling apart.
The city fell apart when he was mayor of San Francisco.
Yeah.
And he got caught.
He did a horrible job with COVID.
He got caught, by the way, having dinner when everyone else was supposed to be locked in their homes.
The other part about this that no one remembers that he had an infectious disease expert as the head of their medical establishment ready to go.
And instead of giving the job to her, this is right before COVID, he gave it to some woman who was completely unqualified because she happened to have a different skin tone.
It was a total DEI hire, according to multiple people inside the California government, to the point that she was so embarrassing when COVID started.
They had to start hiding her from the media and eventually had to basically walk her out the door because she was a catastrophe.
All of this happened in front of her eyes.
Everyone saw it go on.
And then he's like, oh, he's the leader.
Like, that's how bad their bench is.
You know what?
I have to tell you, I would hope that that is the key.
case that they could get Gavin Newsom
to run and it kind of
I can make a case. Let me do a commercial
and then I'll make the case that
maybe this is what they've been doing all along
but I'd rather have that than Michelle Obama.
Oh yeah. Because I
think Gavin Newsom could be
beaten. Michelle Obama I don't think could
be beaten and
it would be a nightmare.
Notice how you guys are all walking right
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care enough to bring
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one of their chief strategists has come out and said that he thinks that Joe Biden is going to excuse himself from the election after Super Tuesday, because I think the polling numbers are going to be so horrible.
And so that the question remains, then, who becomes the candidate?
I mean, it's not going to be Kamala Harris.
They know that's a loser.
I do think that's the most likely outcome.
However, if he were to step down, I do think Kamala Harris would be the most likely outcome.
It would be very difficult for the Democrats to say, oh, actually, you know what, we don't want a black woman.
You know, she was the first ever VP who's been in this job for multiple years.
Instead, we're going to go to Gavin Newsom, some white guy from California with a 38% approval rating.
Like, that's not an easy sell to your voting.
You're making my theory that at the convention or.
thereabouts, Michelle Obama is
drafted by the
super deliates. Because that's the only way they could get out of the Kamala Harris
problem. If you went with another African American woman, a person
of color, if you would, then you could at least say, well,
look, she's tainted by the Biden administration, which is going to be
again, difficult for them to admit. But if behind the scenes they could
admit it and then say, well, Michelle's a one of the kind, unique character that's
qualified for these times for some reason and make the pitch.
But you can't, I don't think he can go to a white dude.
I don't think you can go to a white dude and just skip over Kamala.
That would be very difficult for them.
It would make sense why he's been running the whole time.
And yet he's never announced that he's running.
Just to get his name out there, keep it in play the whole time.
I mean, it could be a decent strategy, I guess, for numskills, quite honestly.
But you could see.
that could make sense.
He's been there the whole time.
He's the guy to give the crowd to.
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Hello, Chip Roy.
How are you, sir?
Chip, are you there?
How are you, brother?
Ah, well, you know, I would be better if I thought you were bringing happy news to the table.
But the House and Senate have put together a budget that they said.
say is going to cut spending.
Boy, is it ever.
And really has nothing to do with the border, does it?
Yeah, Glenn, look.
I mean, first of all, greetings from West Des Moines, Iowa,
where it's, I think, a balmy 20 degrees outside.
But the snowstorm coming in.
But the real snowstorm coming in is coming into D.C.
That's going to hammer the American people.
Republicans doing exactly what they always do,
which is be the party of excuses.
The party that will never find a way to not capitulate
and spend more money.
that we don't have and wreck up more debt.
So what are we doing now under Speaker Johnson, right?
New Speaker, more of the same garbage.
We're going to have a bill that's $1.6,6 trillion.
That is almost, I think that's about $58 billion more
than the disastrous Nancy Pelosi omnibus bill,
the Republicans opposed the year ago.
It is $100 billion more than what we would get
if Republicans have the spine to walk onto the House floor
and send a simple,
year-long continuing resolution over to the Senate that would trigger the cuts, all be they meager
in the debt deal last summer. It would trigger cuts that we could get $1.562 trillion in spending.
They won't do that because they're all in the hip pocket of all the lobbyists and they hide behind
our military. And now we're not going to get the border secure. We're going to spend $100 billion
more than we have to. We're going to increase spending over the Nancy Pelosi spending deal.
and Republicans are going to go try to sell you and the American people,
did that somehow a win?
Don't believe them.
This is what the American people are tired of.
And I'm going to call balls and strikes.
I call balls and strikes on Kevin.
I'm going to call balls and strikes on Mike as speaker.
People should call balls and strikes on me.
That's the way it works.
So, Chip, we're running out of time and options here.
I don't know if anybody in Washington has seen that.
but the Republicans, they don't care about, I mean, they are not in touch with the average American.
They're just not, at least in the ruling class of Republican circles.
They're, I don't know, in it for themselves or just completely delusional on what the country is facing now.
the border alone is such a major stress on absolutely everything from national security to the economy,
to our social fabric, to our social services.
What is the average person supposed to do at this point?
Well, I think what Republican leadership will tell you in the House and the Senate is that they're trying to negotiate a border deal right now on the back of a Ukraine spending fight.
Now, here's my problem with that.
Yet again, I'm being asked to accept in October, November,
I was asked to accept twice continuing resolutions of Nancy Bloisley's spending level.
Then I was asked to eat a National Defense Authorization Act,
which got rid of almost all of our policy changes we put in our version,
and then extended FISA for 16 months so we can have a government continue to spy on the American people.
And now I'm being asked to accept this ridiculous spending deal with no real border security measures in it.
They'll be token so that I'll get a point.
promise. Trust me, right? Trust me, Chip, we will do border security on a Ukraine deal when half of
the American people don't even want to give another dollar to Ukraine anyway, irrespective of whether
you actually got a border deal, which neither you nor I nor your listeners believe will actually
materialize. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Chip, help me out. Which one, I mean, I think they're both
a gun to the head dangerous, but which one is more pressing right now? The financial, the budget,
deal or the border?
In my view, they're actually both important, but I will take border security first.
Me too.
Here's the problem.
Here's the problem.
We can do both.
We have in our hands because of the work we did last year for all the speaker fights and
negotiations.
I don't want to set aside.
I don't want people to totally give up hope.
We fought last year and we did what we've never done before.
We passed a border security bill in HR2 that would actually do the job.
It is so good that the Wall Street.
journal today was editorializing against it, saying it was too hard, did it had things in there
about building the wall, did it have E-Verify in there? So if the Wall Street Journal is editorializing
against your border bill, it's probably a good border bill. So you've got our border bill,
which was effective. We passed it. We got it done. I know you're chuckling. You know I'm right.
I know. Hey, look, side note, it is the Chamber of Commerce Wall Street Journal
Republicans who have totally screwed our country for two decades. Because
They want their cheap labor.
They want to sit down at the Rio Grande.
They want to have a side that says no trespassing while they're going wink, wink, wink, nod,
with another sign saying help wanted come on in.
We don't give a crap whether our border's wide open.
We don't give a crap of terrorists are coming again.
We don't give a crap of cartels are empowered.
We don't give a crap if our kids are dying from fentanyl.
That's what's happening right now.
So we've got a bill that we passed that was good, bird in hand.
We should use it to negotiate and get border security.
We have a bird in hand, which is caps on spending.
They weren't the caps that Glenn Beck and Chip Roy would negotiate, but they were caps that actually now, if we were to pass a continuing resolution for the rest of this year, they would trigger $1.562 trillion, which would mean we would cut spending between $40 and $70 billion, rather than this much prosperity, which is additional $100 billion.
Can I just point out, that's not a lot of money when you're spending $4 trillion.
I mean, I, it's honestly, it's like going to, it's going to Bill Gates and saying,
Bill, your spending is out of control.
And I, I noticed you bought four new cars last year.
That, we, we got to stop spending the four new car.
Four new cars.
He's got a Boeing business jet he's running around in.
I mean, this is so ridiculous to talk about these small numbers.
being so substantial because they're not. We lost, what was it, $200, 250 billion? We just lost last year.
Just lost. Send it out to the wrong people, overpaid. What are you talking about?
Yeah, I mean, Glenn, it's absolutely ridiculous, the amount of waste and the spending. But more importantly, we're funding the very bureaucrats that are targeting you and me and undermining our freedom.
We're targeting IRA and we're funding IRAs agents from funding DOJ bureaucrats that,
go after the former president, go after you and me, go after Mark Al-Calc in Philadelphia.
We're funding a DHS to not secure the border in that smug Alejandro Marcos to sit up there on the stage
and laugh at us and blame it on Texas.
We're funding the lawyers to go to the Supreme Court and challenge Texas in court saying we can't cut razor wire.
I mean, you can't even put it into words.
I've got to be honest with you.
I'm on the ground in Iowa.
I'm meeting with voters every day, very focused voters.
And they are ready to rumble.
They are ready for a change.
They are sick and tired of what's going on in the swamp.
They want somebody new.
They want a new direction.
They want some change.
And not to get into the political side.
I'm out here,
something for Governor DeSantis, obviously.
But they want somebody who will actually do what they friggin said they would do like
Governor DeSanston in Florida.
And look, he's never flip-plots.
And I heard on your show earlier, you asked about Vivek.
I like Vivek.
He says a lot of great things.
But he's flip-flopped a million times on vaccines, on Trump, COVID generally.
I could go down a list.
Governor of Sanchez is delivered up and down.
And so Governor DeSanis cut spending.
Governor DeSanis took on vouching.
Governor DeSantis took on COVID-Therty.
He took on Disney and won.
He's now got Miami-Dade teachers unions on the run.
He got Universal School Joyce Pass.
He's got an economy booming.
That guy is actually a machine.
I've never seen anything like it.
And I've worked for good people.
You know that.
Right.
Guy is crushing it.
And he's doing great out here in Iowa.
I am a big fan of Ronda's.
I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.
A big fan of Ronda Sances.
And again, I think the only reason why Ron DeSantis is not doing real well is because people are saying, well, I'll take Donald Trump because it's Ron DeSantis.
I don't think it is the same thing.
But that I think is what people are thinking out.
Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis.
Well, hold on.
The oranges there, right?
If you want to talk about the border, Governor DeSantis has stood up.
He fought to get bills passed there when he was in the house.
He stood up to fight for good border security bills.
In 2018, Governor DeSantis was against Paul Ryan's amnesty bill.
Donald Trump was for it.
Governor DeSantis will actually fight birthright citizenship.
President Trump said in 2016 he would sign an executive order on birthright citizenship.
He didn't do it.
Donald Trump said he would build the wall and have Mexico pay for it.
He then got up and gave excuses to have, well, we have no mechanism to make them pay for it.
We didn't get a bill.
They didn't pay for it.
Ron DeSantis stood up against Fauci, shut down COVID-curity.
freaking President Trump gave Fauci a commendation on his way out of office in January of 20, of 2021.
Look, I can go down the list even further, but there's no comparison.
I mean, Governor DeSantis is the guy we've been waiting for who will deliver and he can serve for eight years.
I love President Trump for what he did to shake up the swamp.
But let's just be clear.
He did not deliver.
He didn't repeal Obamacare.
He let Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell wag him around town.
We didn't get Obamacare repealed.
Now, you and I are screwed sitting here.
high health care costs, letting insurance companies run our health care system.
And instead of actually having a health care freedom, we empowered Anthony Fauci to screw Americans.
Like, how many things do you have to fail on to then go around and say, what a great president
you were compared to a governor who's literally delivered on every single measure on the report card?
This is why President Trump will not debate Governor DeSantis.
Because Governor of Sanchez would actually clean his clock if he compared his batting record with the former president.
So let me go back to the budget, the border, everything that is happening in America now.
Americans are starting to cancel all of their streaming services.
There's a great story in my show prep today about the restaurant owner that has broke down the math that causes him to charge $16 for a BLT sandwich.
And when you read it, at first you're like $16 for a BLT.
Come on, man.
And then when you read it, you're like, okay, I'm surprised he's only charging $16 for that BLT.
Americans feel it.
They know their country is being taken.
They know the Justice Department is completely out of control.
The Pentagon didn't even have a leader for a week.
and we're starting to feel like, wow, we're at the end of this thing.
What do we do if the people in Washington don't listen to the people?
What do we do?
Well, there's a number of things.
One, we've got to elect somebody good.
I've already said my piece on that.
We've got to get a president who will do it.
Number two, we in Congress have to keep holding ourselves accountable
and the people need to keep holding us accountable to do what we said we would do in Washington.
I'm going to go back and fight this week.
I'm going to keep shining the light on it.
That's actually new.
Take hope.
We actually have a group of us there who are actually doing the hard work of exposing all the
garbage in these bills and making it harder for these guys to capitulate.
We'll get there.
Have hope that people like Riley Gaines are stood up to the woke establishment and people
like Scott Smith stood up to all of the abuses in Virginia.
Take hope that Chloe Cole stood up and said, you know what, these forced transition surgeries
are garbage or Mark Howx stood up to the DOJ in Philadelphia.
We should follow their lead.
the American people should stand up and reclaim their inheritance and keep pushing.
Get people elected this year who will fight.
Pay attention to who they are.
Get out there and make a difference.
And keep holding us accountable.
But also, remember, if we want to save this country, you talk about inflation,
talk about how much is how everybody's suffering.
We have got to open up American energy.
We don't talk about that enough.
The Democrats are jamming through all of their subsidies for EVs.
I don't think the American people know there is a rule they're about to embrace
that will mandate two-thirds to EVs.
B's by 2032. That will destroy the internal combustion engine. It will destroy our ability to afford
automobiles. It will crush the economy, drive the cost of goods and services up. And I just want
Republicans for one frigging moment to fight Democrats with half of the energy, half of the energy,
the Democrats fight our country and our freedom. That's what I'm going to go back to Washington.
When I fly back tomorrow, I'm going to absolutely rip into my Republican colleagues for this
debacle of a spending bill, and we're going to keep trying to force their hands.
Chip, can you give me maybe three more minutes?
Sure, of course.
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We're back with Chip Roy, representative of the great state of Texas.
Chip.
another story about the Supreme Court taking on the Donald Trump ballot case. They're taking
their own sweet time to do it. But this is something that is sweeping America. If they take
Donald Trump off the ballot, again, what do people do? Well, it's a great question. First of all,
what they're doing. And look, obviously, I'm a, I supported Donald Trump in 2016,
supported them in 2020 because there are nominee. I'll support them what they're doing against him in Colorado.
is an absolute travesty. It's politicizing the entire, you know, process. There is no conviction for
insurrection. It's all a joke. They're doing it purposely and politically. We're going to have
to start responding in kind. I'm willing, I think, I think, I think this court will strike this
down and we'll call this out for what it is. But we'll see, right? And then, you know, if they don't,
then I can assure you there's going to be then reactions, as Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick said in
Texas, I think even Governor of Sanchez has brought it up. Like, do we start saying that, you know,
Joe Biden needs to be pulled off the ballot because he's been a complete abomination,
violating our laws, violating his oath to the Constitution, endangering the American people,
aiding and abetting our enemies in the cartels who are flooding our country? So how is that not
in violation of the 14th Amendment that, you know, aiding and abetting your enemy? That's the
language in the 14th Amendment. So if we're going to play that game and adjudicate that based
on the whims of whatever a state wants to decide, as opposed to some actual conviction,
after a civil war, you know, a demonstration of insurrection after a civil war,
as was intended in the 14th Amendment, then what's good for the goose should be good for the gander,
we're going to have to fight fire with fire. Right now, let's hope and pray the court gets this
right. I think they will. But man, these are strange times. So, you know, we'll see what
happened. I assume you're like me that you'd think they will. But I think they will,
but the Democrats, again, I think they will, and that will pass. But the Democrats will use that
as C, this out of control
conservative court
you know, just has to be, we have to
have other new people on. We got to get rid of
these people. I mean, that's
what they're going to use it for. I mean, that's, that's
the political game they'll play. But then we just use it
against that. This is why we need a court.
Look, we've got a couple of our guys getting older.
You know, Sam Alito and Justice Thomas, I mean,
God bless them. There are two
most conservative justices. And,
you know, we got to replace
those guys that people at least
is good or better. Because
the three that Trump appointed were good, but they're not as good as those guys.
Like, they're not Scalia and Thomas, right? They're just not, you know, they're just okay.
Yeah. Yeah. Chip, thank you so much. Enjoy the weather in Iowa.
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And so, what is it, every month, Stu, or every other month, something like that?
Once a month?
I thought it was once a month.
Yeah, you may be once every other month, but there's a bunch of them coming in the pipeline already.
and really, really good documentaries.
This one is my take on the border.
You know, they got some problems down on the border.
That's what I hear.
That's what I hear.
This one isn't your typical, hey, let's stand down at the border and show you the
illegals crossing.
Seen it.
I know it.
Let me show you in reality what is happening to our states.
And we took Texas as an example.
we've been following, if you've been following the show, you know that I was down in Houston about a month ago for the filming of one of our Blaze originals about Colony Ridge.
Colony Ridge is the fastest growing development in Texas.
Now think of that because I don't know if you've noticed, but a lot of people are moving to Texas.
So what does it take to be the fastest growing development in Texas?
It's 30 minutes right outside of Houston.
And I got to experience firsthand not only the vast size of Colony Ridge,
which is 50% larger than Manhattan.
But I also got to see it from the sky.
I got to smell it.
Oh, it smells so good there.
the air is so garbagey.
It's really nice.
But I also took a ride with John Harris, the developer.
And I wanted to hear his side of the story.
And, well, I'll let you decide for yourself.
So are the rumors true?
Is Colony Ridge specifically targeting illegal immigrants to take up residency there in Colony Ridge?
how is this new development impacting the basic utilities,
you know, just like water, sewage, local school systems,
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Okay. I want to play a little clip of this. Now, what's interesting is Colony Ridge growing, I don't know,
a little fast, 200 lots per week. The overwhelming percentage seems to be illegals.
Maybe we don't know because nobody checks, but it's predominantly non-English speaking.
Let's put it that way.
The developer says there's about 35,000 people that live there.
Local officials say, I don't think so count again.
It's at least double that.
When the U.S. has opened its borders, where do these people go to live?
We have 8 million people inside of our country now that,
weren't here before Biden took the oath of office. There'll be 10 million by the end of next year.
And this is changing everything in Texas. And it will change everything in the voting of Texas.
I mean, even if you say, well, not this generation, but the next generation, it will. And if we lose
Texas, we lose our country. Now, you would think that our governor would be all up in arms about
this. You would think that, you know, he's doing everything he can to have.
help the border, but he received $1.4 million from the developers.
Hmm.
Now, we reached out to give Greg Abbott a chance to talk to us about it.
We called his office.
We left messages.
We sent email after email.
We text message to him.
We even sent a letter in case maybe the post office, you know, still delivers those
things.
And that's what they needed for a formal invitation to be on with us.
We did, however, speak to the...
the CEO, John Harris, and we asked him about $1.4 million in political donations. What do you get for that?
Listen. I've heard this a lot today. Everybody's on the take.
Everybody like, the cops? You think Texas DPS? No, no, no, no, not the cops, politicians,
all on the take. It's not true. What can they do for me? Like, what? Come on. Come on.
Okay. Yeah, so sure.
You'll believe this answer.
Yeah, he's, you know, he said they just gave $1.4 million to Governor Abbott because he's good.
He says, I mean, you think he's good.
And I said, I didn't give him $1.4 million.
What are you getting out of this?
But it's a fascinating look at what's going on to the border.
and this is what our country is going to turn into.
You can't import third world people and just dump them into your country
and expect that you're not going to have a third world nation.
You're going to.
Who's paying for the infrastructure?
Who's paying for the schools?
Who's paying for all of these things?
Well, they are because they got a tax ID.
Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Really? This is a third nation that we are developing right now in America, and you'll see it all. And you'll see the truth. And I think maybe for the first time on Colony Ridge, because it was really a difficult topic to tackle. You want to just pour red meat out for people. That's fine. But we found a very difficult topic to tackle.
You want to just pour red meat out for people.
That's fine.
But we found a very different story.
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We have somebody from J.P. Morgan Chase, who is one of their strategists, he has put together a list of things.
Ten surprises. And you know how much we all love surprises. Ten surprises for 2024.
One of them, the one that's getting all the attention is Biden's going to pull out of the presidential race due to poor health.
What? He's the picture of health.
you know, he's actually the picture of it.
I mean, he's not healthy as a human being,
but the picture of him looks very healthy.
So that's the one that's getting all the attention,
but there's a few others in there that you should hear
and possibly weigh yourself,
gee, does that sound like that could happen or not?
We'll have those for you coming up next hour.
And also Franco, his good points and his bad points.
Who's going to win?
Who's going to win?
America wonders scratching its head right now.
Was he a good guy or a bad guy?
We say hello and welcome back to Stu Berger, our executive producer.
Hello, Stu.
I noticed you've given me the pro-Franco side in this debate.
I thought that was the easier side.
Is it really?
I don't have many good things to say.
The main thing that I know about Generalissimo Francisco Franco is that he's still dead.
Other than that...
No, that's not the spirit of what we're...
looking for. Okay. That's definitely not
the spirit we're looking for. I mean, do I have to give
you some? Is that, is that, is that,
is that, is that, is that, is that what you need?
Uh, sure. I mean, he, he, he was
neutral and didn't get invaded
in World War II. He kept Spain
out of the war. Hello.
Mm-hmm. Okay.
Mm-hmm. So, he kept him out of war.
There you go. Well, so
it's a shorter segment than I expected,
but you have that going on for you, which is
nice. Well, I mean, and it's, and it's
It's not about Franco, right?
Like, this is a, specifically, it's not about Franco.
It's about this idea that the right needs to take more authoritative powers, right?
That seems to be what is enticing people into these arguments, because it's not just
Franco.
There's several other examples that people bring up as potential models for some future new right.
And I don't know.
I mean, it all seems a tad dangerous to me, you know, giving more authority to a centralized government
usually does make me feel that way.
What could possibly go wrong?
I can't imagine.
I would assume that's your side of the debate.
But I don't know.
I mean, it's it is amazing that that is where, I guess.
People are.
Yeah, it's interesting that both sides have convinced themselves they're losing all the time.
Like I was listening to, there was a story in our inner prep, which you should get, by the way,
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that talks about some guy on the far left.
I think is it Sank, one of the guys on the far left,
saying that, you know, John Fenerman,
now this is what happens.
You put a good progressive in,
and they immediately turn into Republicans.
Like, the left feels the same way we do.
Like, they all feel, everyone feels that their side is constantly failing,
and you never win anything.
And when you get two sides that believe that,
more and more extreme tactics are embraced by those sides.
It's also partially true, I think, for both sides.
Certainly much more, I think, correct for the right.
But that doesn't mean you jump to tactics that the left loves, right?
The left loves centralized government and authoritarian power.
You go that direction.
I think you end up with that spot.
That would not be good.
And by the way, Federman, I mean, he is saying some shocking things.
But you hired a guy with brain damage.
I mean, you get what you can.
get when you roll that roulette wheel. But he's he's not exactly conservative. He's not a Republican,
but he is saying unbelievable things lately. He said, he was talking about Harvard and he said,
look, I graduated 25 years ago. And of course, it was always a little pinko, but I don't even
recognize it now. Wait, what? And how are you a, Mark? What? What? What?
What? Fetterman also said that Israel is really a beacon of the kind of values,
the American values, and progressive ideals that we want to see.
In that region, it's our strongest ally.
We have a very special kind of relationship.
I don't understand how anyone can vote against the Iron Dome or want to harm Israel businesses or the nation or anything.
I never understood that.
Calling them colonizers?
Where does this come from?
I don't know.
The universities.
More and more of my colleagues are calling for a ceasefire.
It's so strange.
Why aren't you calling for Hamas to surrender?
If Hamas surrendered and turned over their guns,
all the killing and misery would end.
That's John Federman.
Not making a lot of the Pinko Bedwetters happy today,
but not exactly a Republican either.
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You know what is interesting is when you start to have conservatives say things like,
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So for some unknown reason when I said, hey, let's do a debate on the good things and the bad things about Franco,
Stu immediately said, I want to do the pro Franco stuff because he's, you're, I didn't realize this,
Stu, you're a big fan of Franco?
No, this is all fraudulent information and I would like that to be known that Glenn is.
lying as usual.
Well, that's not what America is here in right now, but we'll go with that little lie of yours.
So we looked in and I wanted to get somebody to debate the other side like Stu because, you know, he's pretty thorough.
He's a fact-based guy.
And so I thought, let's get him because the facts are, I think you'd verify this, the facts are overwhelming in Franco's favor.
I would not verify that, actually, and would feel the opposite, frankly.
Really?
Yes.
And maybe we should start, though, with why?
Why would we be debating the positives and negatives of Franco?
What would be the purpose of that and why would that occur in 2024?
A week before the Iowa caucuses, why are we talking about Franco of all people?
Well, Francisco Franco, you might remember him.
He was the head of the Spanish state.
He was what you might call a dictator.
And a lot of people now, it seems, in America are starting to say, you know, we should have somebody like Franco that just comes in and, you know, stops all this nonsense.
And I'm thinking of myself, no, no, we shouldn't have somebody like Franco.
Unfortunately, a lot of the people that are debating this and who are cozying up to the idea of an American Franco are conservatives.
And I don't, you either don't know who Franco is or I wouldn't classify you as a conservative.
But maybe that's me.
Maybe that's just me.
And I, of course, feel the opposite and feel that he was great and did a great job.
job. That's so convincing, too.
36 years of being a dictator. I think that's an appropriate amount of time.
So you're doing a great job so far. Okay. So here is the thing. Now, the, the, some of the stuff we gathered,
uh, polling, for instance, show that, you know, he's, he's not so bad to many of the people in Spain.
And in Italy, you know, neither was Mussolini. You know, as long as you went along with them.
some of this stuff comes from the Madrid Center for Sociological Research, a government research center,
showed that the majority of the Spanish public now acknowledged that Franco did both good and bad things.
Now, I'm going to ask for a definition of the word bad because I'm not sure.
I mean, the term bad, does that include exactly?
extermination camps do or not, do you think?
I typically am of the opinion that they are universally bad extermination camps.
Never a good idea.
Okay, but I mean, is that maybe, I don't know,
significantly understating the badness of extermination camps or genocide or crimes against humanity?
I consider them suboptimal, Glenn.
Suboptimal.
Okay.
All right.
Well, see, we got the right.
for, you know, the debate Franco side.
Okay.
So would you like to start or should I start?
You go ahead, Glenn.
I go ahead.
You've got that really tough task to make Franco look bad.
So I know, I know.
I know.
It's going to be hard.
Okay.
So now both sides of the debate, both good and bad Franco,
they will admit that he committed massive atrocities during the Spanish Civil War.
His nationalist raped Republican women and shaved their heads.
They rounded up half a million people and put them in 60 concentration camps.
Large portion of these prisoners did forced labor or made to fight in Franco's army.
And then, you know, he executed another 100,000 people during the war.
So right off there, I think, I don't think I'm on the Franco train.
Really?
Yeah.
The train is an interesting use there.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, but as you, again, I will.
attempt my best here, but Franco did at least when you're thinking of the Spanish people,
or at least half of them, specifically, he did keep them out of World War II by kind of
remaining neutral. Now, some might note that you didn't get invaded and you were less likely
to be invaded by Hitler when you did things that Hitler didn't mind all that much, which is not,
you know, necessarily a positive. But I'm telling you it's a positive that, hey, he remained
neutral in World War II and didn't get invaded.
Okay. All right.
Okay. You know, but he was busy there for a while in his own civil war.
And the public affairs officer for Franco's forces told an American reporter, quote,
you know what's wrong with Spain?
Modern plumbing.
In healthier times, spiritually healthier, you understand.
The plague and pestilence, they could be counted on to thin the Spanish
masses. Now with modern sewage disposal, people just multiply too fast. And the masses are no better
than animals, you understand. You can't expect them not to become infected with a virus of
Bolshevism. After all, rats and lice carry the plague. So he had a really good understanding
of a servant to the people, you know? Sure. Well, you could say that. However, we've
all become so indoors these days. I mean, like, you know, when it's 32 degrees, we don't even go out
to outhouses anymore. The outdoor plumbing was a better approach. Was it? Yes, much better.
And I think we should go back to that. So get rid of modernity like toilets. Yeah,
modernity. That's an interesting word. I feel like we use that with some Russian figures over the past
few years that they are saying get rid of modernity as well. And some Christian nationalists, too.
Well, what you're not talking about, of course, is the fact that foreign investment was encouraged and tourism was promoted.
And by 1962, per capita income for the nation's 33 million people reached $300 per year.
Holy cow.
Holy cow.
So, I mean, I noticed you didn't point that out when you, because I mean, imagine how a high it would have went if we could still go to outhouses.
Probably could have doubled that number.
Well, let me, let me just, I hate to throw a monkey wrench into the deal, but I wasn't really concentrating on the tourism.
Okay.
Because after, after the war, Franco was responsible for the torture, murderer, and, and covert burial of an additional 114,000 Spanish citizens.
He just, he just targeted people, Republican loyalists, atheists, Jews, intellectuals, liberals, liberals,
academics, Protestants. I mean, but you didn't see the Protestants. I mean,
whew. You know? Anarchist, freemasons, socialists,
Catalan and Basque nationalists, communists, homosexuals, and trade unionists. So, and they just,
they opened up mass graves all around Spain and relatives, you know, couldn't mark the grave or
anything else. They just dumped them in and just covered them with dirt. So, well, I would say what you
want, but we wouldn't have this Basque nationalist problem. It wasn't for all this indoor plumbing.
And I think Franco nailed that, by the way. But you did mention an interesting word there,
communist. You see, he was an anti-communist. He was an anti-socialist. He opposed a lot of the
things that we oppose today, which somehow is supposed to be a reason enough to love the guy.
And that's why I'm making this positive argument for Franco.
But he did oppose communist. It's true. He did oppose socialist. Of course, I don't want to point out some of the other figures in Europe at the time who also hit that standard and maybe are not thought of so positively.
Wow, it sounds like you're not convinced he's a good guy.
What? No, I just told you he's against communists.
Let me see if I can flip Stu on this one. You know, the children from Republican families were taken.
and they weren't killed.
They were just abducted, renamed, and given to supporters of the Franco regime.
An estimated 300,000 babies were also stolen from hospitals and undesirable parents.
And then they were sold to approved families.
Have you heard any of the dumb names, parents are naming kids these days?
They should be captured and renamed.
That's the only way we could save our society today.
Yes.
And Franco is one of the few people who knew that.
And I'll tell you this, Glenn.
He did promote strong Spanish national identity and culture.
And this seems to be honestly what people...
But he was kidnapping babies.
Seems to be...
Yeah, sure.
And opposing indoor plumbing.
But it seems to be what people do like, just like me, who's arguing the pro-Franco side,
is that he did have a bit of a...
He had a nationalist streak, which has some.
equivalent here in the modern movement on the right.
And also he did promote, he did love Spanish culture and he did not like people undercutting that.
And so he used the centralized power of the state that he held for 36 years.
Right.
He used that power to enforce some things that maybe you might like.
And if he did that, shouldn't we just embrace it?
But wait.
Beyond having martial law for 10 years, while he was, of course, busy talking about how great Spain was,
he was also dumping bodies in a massive grave.
He was stealing babies and taking children, killing their parents,
and then taking the children and adopting them into pro-Franco family.
think that makes me, as a nationalist, it would make me love Spain maybe a little less.
Hmm. Well, I mean, that's, uh, if you had a good, a good name, then maybe you'd change your
opinion once the government aside you your new name, um, which was much, much better than your old
name. I will say though, um, you know, Glenn, once he aged, see, here's the thing, you know,
People look at this and say, look, did Franco do some bad things? Sure, some people will say that. But they will also note that it was a trying time, a difficult period after the war. And the country was collapsing. He needed to act in that way. And once he aged, he did release and relax some of those rules. Police, you know, beating people over the head for no apparent reason declined by like, I don't know, 13 percent or something.
And he did allow some free market reforms.
Now, some would point out, hey, maybe you just put the free market reforms in because they're good.
And you don't just wait for 30 years of a dictatorship before you do some of those things.
But, hey, later on in life, you know, he aged and he calmed a little bit.
And isn't that wonderful?
Well, still didn't allow any freedom of the press.
But also, he, I mean, employment, if you, if you were,
were unemployed, you could get a job if you were a Franco supporter, but people were required to get
a certificate of good behavior from local officials so you could get a job, which kind of
sounds like what we don't want to happen here. Well, I mean, some would say that. There's certain
people out there who would make claims. I think I'm just going to, I think while you're making
very good points, I think I'm just going to leave it at this.
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Yes, yes.
Well, Stu, I mean, I thought you made a lot of good points on Franco.
Because there's a lot of them out there, as you well know.
Well, you know, I'm a passionate supporter, apparently, of Franco.
So.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know that you almost, you almost slipped there and said Hitler.
No, I, well, no, I didn't.
But I know what you mean.
Too many similarities there to be ignored.
I don't.
Look, we had a lot right, I think, in this country, you know?
And I feel like we're at the point where we want to throw a lot of the things that we did correctly out the window because we perceive this as a period of things not going our way.
That's not a good, like, there's a reason why we've been a country that's been this powerful for a long time.
And those principles are the ones that got us here.
And it just feels like if we were to go back and embrace them a little bit, maybe we wouldn't need to have a 40-year dictatorship.
I don't know. Those can be fun.
For the dictators, usually.
What's happening to us right now,
and the reason why Franco people are starting to say,
you know, we need maybe a nationalist and a religious dictator.
No, we don't.
You know, we need one as much as Iran needs one.
Oh, wait a minute, they already have one.
Oh, I'm sorry.
So some other country other than Iran.
We don't need that.
We shouldn't want that.
That's a very grave danger to anyone and everyone, because that's a dictatorship that just can eliminate those who they deem problems.
I don't want that on the left.
I don't want that on the right.
I don't want it here, there or anywhere, Sam, I am.
The reason why this is happening is because things are becoming uncontrollable.
The government has gone so far awry that people believe.
believe that only an unconstitutional dictator can save the country. And that's not true. All you have to
do is return to the Constitution. If you return to the Constitution, all of it comes back.
Now, you can't give everybody the freedom that they think they have now, like I have the right
to go in and loot stores. No, no. That won't stop until.
you start enforcing the local laws and the laws of the Constitution.
Once you do that, we fix ourselves.
People are overthinking all of this stuff.
I mean, you're going to need a very, very unpopular president or a president during a war.
That's why everybody wants a war so much.
That is able to do things under a War Powers Act, which is terrifying to me.
I would much rather have a president come in and just say, I'm a one-term president, but I am going to put everything on the table.
And I'm going to get rid of this huge administrative state.
It's gone.
I don't want it.
It's not constitutional.
Once you get past some of those things, it's amazing how you fix your town, you fix your state, you fix your country.
I don't understand why, especially conservatives are talking about Francisco Franco.
He was an evil dictator that didn't do some bad.
He committed atrocities.
And every dictator commits atrocities because they force people into compliance.
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It is a head-to-head match.
I mean, it is going to come in.
Buy a nose, I predict.
This race for the GOP nomination.
is just thrilling, exciting, and nail-biting all the way to the end.
We have our first contest to see when they all step into the ring, which one is going to come out as a victor?
And my man for color here, which is really kind of racist, is Steve Bregere, otherwise known as Stu.
And Stu, what do you looking at at this big matchout on the mat in Iowa?
It is amazing. We're seven days away, one week from Iowa. And it doesn't feel that way, does it?
No. No. I mean, I think there's the sort of belief that we are in a primary that doesn't really exist, right? Like that Trump is running away with it and, you know, in a few weeks, we will know that. It's as exciting as the Biden primary.
Yeah. That has nothing to do with the voters. The same thing with the Trump thing. I mean, you got to go out.
and vote, but it seems like it's just going to happen.
And then the nail biter is, is he going to end up in prison?
Right.
I think that's where people see the real contest taking shape.
But I think that's partially why it does matter what happens in these early states,
because the second place primary is important when you have one of the two major parties
trying to throw the other guy in prison, right?
Like, yeah, well, we haven't, we haven't really had.
that kind of El Salvadorian kind of feel to our presidential elections.
That's true.
We haven't.
We haven't really done much of that.
So I started kind of a new morning update podcast called State of the Race, which is on the
Studez America feed if you go there and wherever you get your podcast.
And we're going to go through all of this every day because I think in a few weeks we might
find out that Trump runs away with this and there's nothing to worry about about going to
prison or being thrown off ballots and that stuff all clears itself out.
We don't have to worry about this.
which would be great.
I mean, you know, I mean, if you don't have to worry about democracy crumbling in front of your eyes,
that would be a positive.
It'll be surprising, but it would be great.
Yeah.
And you have a situation where, look, DeSantis is, do you think it's a, would you say it's a must-win,
Iowa for DeSantis?
Or do you think he can show a strong second and, you know, stay together enough to keep the race going?
I don't know.
I mean, I, I mean, I would say, yeah.
because it doesn't look like he's going to win in New Hampshire, does it?
No, he's currently in fourth in the polling in New Hampshire.
Yeah.
And he's probably not going to win in South Carolina.
So, yeah, I would say he's got to win one of them.
Yeah.
Now, if he wins Iowa, right, that's where you depend on the bump to change some of these secondary states.
But if, you know, if, and we just really, it's interesting because we all complain about the polls.
Everybody, you know, the polls are annoying.
They don't always tell us the truth, and we know that situation.
However, in a world where we have a lack of polling, which is this one, we have nothing really right now from these states that's updated.
We have the situation with the Real Clear Politics average, which is what people throw out all the time.
And Real Clear Politics does a good job.
Averaging polls is a good idea rather than taking one individual poll.
That's all true.
However, the most recent result from Iowa in the Real Clear Politics average is December 18th.
That's when it ended.
So you have a poll that's over three weeks old.
As Iowa gets close, we don't know.
Like, is it possible that DeSantis has made a move?
Is it possible Haley's made a move?
Is it possible Haley now is in second place in Iowa?
And DeSantis is in third.
You know, it's hard to know.
We don't have anything updated at this point.
So in this world where we don't know, even the basics, it seems like,
it would be, it's one of those situations.
You have to watch these other indicators.
You're seeing Nikki Haley.
Bailey's upping the spending all over these early states.
She's got the cash, Glenn.
I mean, she really is funneling.
Of course, she's taking it from Democrats.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
I mean, it really is happening where she's taking a ton of money and dumping it into these races,
now really leading the spending in a place like Iowa, which has not been the case for most of the campaign.
And DeSantis, like, again, we've talked about DeSantis a lot.
We really like Ron DeSantis.
I think he'd be a really good president if he were to win.
I do, too.
That being said, you know, this is his time he needs to make the move.
And three weeks in Iowa is a lifetime, right?
I mean, it's a lot of time to see where this movement is happening.
And we haven't seen any updated polling.
I assume we're going to get one more Des Moines Register poll here before the election actually happens.
And that's kind of a big pollster in the state.
We will see if we get that.
But right now, it's been shocking.
I mean, we keep getting these national polls.
Hey, here's where the race stands nationally, which means nothing.
Right? These things, these aren't even elections that happen on the same day. The caucuses and primaries happen weeks apart from each other. A national poll gives you nothing but a general sense.
Give me the polls that you have from Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina. Anything you have and then tell me the date they were last taken.
Okay. Yeah. I mean, you go to the polling has been less interesting in Iowa, where the race has seemed pretty stagnant.
for a while. Again, these are
going back a few weeks
here, but if you look at
the
the polls for
Iowa, you have a situation where you're about
51% to Donald Trump
on average.
Rhonda Santas is about 19%.
Nikki Haley is about 16%.
And after that, you have, you know,
Ramoswami, about six. You have
Christi, about three.
Asa Hutchinson, who's still in the race.
People don't seem to be
interested in his candidacy.
Right.
But he's interested in it.
Yeah.
That's kind of...
And that's what counts.
That's really what counts.
Good for you, Aza.
Yeah.
But yeah, he is, he is at zero.
It's legitimately at zero.
Now, those again are the averages of the race.
If you look at where those polls have been taking place, a couple of them were mid-December.
Some of them are early December.
You know, more than a month old.
And while it would be an unprecedented thing for Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley to be able to unseat Trump in Iowa in this short of a window, we have seen massive surprises before.
I mean, Howard Dean was up by 20 and 30 points.
Rick Santorum was way, way back in this race.
You know, Ted Cruz, even going into the polling going into election or caucus day in Iowa still showed that Cruz was in.
not going to win in 2016, and then he wound up winning.
You know, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and John Edwards were all really tight in the Iowa
caucuses leading up to that day.
So there are surprises, and they happen pretty frequently in Iowa, late in elections.
This is just a different situation, right?
You have a president running who's an incumbent, basically, a guy who is running as the standard
bear for the party and has been for eight years.
this is different than a Howard Dean who was kind of coming out of nowhere, right?
So that needs to be acknowledged.
This, the only way that Iowa becomes a surprise on the GOP is if people were saying they were going to vote for Donald Trump because they didn't want any backlash from the right.
But they actually go in behind closed doors and they vote for somebody else.
I don't see that happening, but that's the only, that's the only thing I could imagine.
If you were to say, how does Ron DeSantis have a success in Iowa, where you would say, let's just say he wins or loses by two points, right? A very, very close race that comes down to the wire.
That I think would be seen as a real overperform for our expectations for DeSantis and that might propel him forward.
How close does he need to be? If he's down now by, on the average of 30 some odd points,
If he's in single digits, is that enough to make a big statement for DeSantis and maybe propel the campaign forward?
Or does he need to get closer than that?
Well, if he's the big winner of the night and he's, you know, eight points behind, that is huge.
That would change the dynamics, I think.
Be better if he were closer or actually won.
If he actually wins, that will be a big thing.
That would be huge, right?
That would change the I think thing.
the direction of the campaign.
Yeah, I agree.
And New Hampshire is interesting as well.
Haley is closer in New Hampshire than DeSantis is in Iowa, if you believe the polls.
And again, they're not really updated.
One other interesting thing is one pollster has shown very close results between Haley and Trump in New Hampshire.
Now, this isn't shown everywhere.
You know, most of the other polls are not nearly as.
positive where you see
you know
at best low
double digit leads
for Trump if you're if you're
Haley and you're you know like one poll
showed
the uh 14 point lead
for Trump over Haley 44 to 30
which is closer than it's been for a while
however American research group which isn't a
isn't a terrible pollster or a great pollster
somewhere in the middle
has shown two polls in a row with Trump up only by four
in New Hampshire
over Nikki Haley.
The most recent one is December 27th through January 3rd.
So the most recent poll we have in any early state.
And that shows Trump at 37, Haley at 33, Christy at 10, Desantis 5, Ramoswami, 4, Hutchinson actually showing up at 1%.
Congratulations to Ace on that one.
So what is, Haley would have to win there?
Where is DeSantis again?
Only at 5%.
So even a win in Iowa, it's difficult to see how DeSantis could make a big impact in a state like New Hampshire.
Now, maybe.
Why is he performing so poorly in New Hampshire?
I don't know.
I mean, he's, look, New Hampshire's a moderate state.
Maybe isn't as in love with the conservative credentials of Aranda Santis.
That's not entirely surprising, I suppose.
However, you know, you feel like if New Hampshire's taking the Haley route as the,
non-Trump option, where Christie is still in the race as well doing, you know, okay, I guess,
double digits in this bowl. You wonder if, if Iowa is going to be very competitive,
does that translate into support for DeSantis in South Carolina? I mean, he, I think he's basically
skipping completely New Hampshire in his mind. His path to victory doesn't matter what happens
to him in New Hampshire. He's going to go right to South Carolina and hope a bump from Iowa
translates there. We have a more conservative voting base, but a pretty pro-Trump voting base and a voting base who has Nikki Haley as their former governor. So it's a very complicated path forward for DeSantis, even with a good showing in Iowa. Not impossible, but really a tough hurdle to hear. Well, with a great track record, which DeSantis has, and a great conservative message, which he has, he hasn't been able to convince the American people.
yet that he's better than Trump. Why is he better than Trump? That's what he had to do on the road.
And I'm not sure that he has ever hit that to America's, or at least conservatives, satisfaction.
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You know, we've been talking about
where this goes
in the last weeks
as we get to the Republican
fight for the nomination
and a big Democratic battle
between Joe Biden,
Mary and Williamson,
and Dean Phillips.
Who knows which way that will go?
Could go any direction.
I think,
are you the same place I am
where it just feels like
anything could happen.
Like, I feel like we could go anywhere from Donald Trump winning the election easily to
Donald Trump is in prison, from Joe Biden somehow winning the election to Joe Biden not even
being the candidate and someone else, like we discussed earlier, maybe Kamala Harris or
Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama or who knows who could be the candidate.
I feel like it's changing on a day-to-day basis.
this is why we kind of started this new podcast state of the race.
It's on the Studeau's America feed.
If you,
wherever you get your podcast,
you can get it every morning.
You know,
with a like a 10 minute or so update on just the things that are happening
that you need to know about that the media is not going to tell you.
And trying to give you some perspective on that because you constantly get this information
from the mainstream media and you know it's not true.
But why is it in true?
What is really going on behind the scenes?
is what are these candidates thinking, you know, within their internal walls as far as where this campaign is going?
And, of course, telling us, you know, where we're going to go in the future with this stuff.
So this is going to happen on the Studez America feed.
It's called State of the Race.
The first episode's up there today.
If you want to go check that out.
We also have some stuff coming up on the YouTube channel, Studez America, YouTube channel.
Today is a little bit of a new commercial from Chris Christie that I think.
I think you're going to enjoy.
So that's going to be actually posted here in just minutes at YouTube.com slash Studeau's America,
something new I think will want to share with people who maybe aren't huge fans of Chris Christie.
I guess that's enough we could say there.
Coming in the next couple of weeks, I mean, this has been one of the strangest times I think I can ever remember.
We've been covering elections, Glenn and I together, since going back to the 2000,
George W. Bush Al Gore election.
You know, we're old.
And we go way back to those days.
just doing the show together and watching this all develop.
This is the strangest one we've ever covered because, you know, I think half the people are just
uninterested in it because they feel like it's a foregone conclusion.
Some people are passionately interested and it's turning them completely insane.
We're going to try to go in between those two here over the next couple of weeks and just give you
what actually matters.
So check it out on the Sudeau's America Feed and right here on the Glenn Beck program.
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