The Glenn Beck Program - POLL: Elites Admit Normies Have 'Too Much' Freedom | Guest: Carol Roth | 1/22/24

Episode Date: January 22, 2024

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has officially dropped out of the presidential race, and Glenn shares which Cabinet position he thinks DeSantis should get. Glenn and Stu discuss the possible outcomes of... the Republican primary with this now a two-person race. Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to examine the primary election and who Trump’s Cabinet picks will be as Glenn reads a letter from an underground Nikki Haley supporter. Former investment banker Carol Roth joins to take a victory lap after Glenn’s audience helped with some major wins. Glenn goes through some issues plaguing America, showcasing why Trump is popular. Glenn reads through a new poll that revealed a shocking number of American elites believe Americans have too much freedom, along with other radical leftist beliefs. Stu lays out the most recent polls showing where Trump and Nikki Haley stand as the New Hampshire primary is a day away.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:25 dot com. My Patriot Supply.com. Hello, you sick freak. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. There's a lot on our plate to deal with today. Ron DeSantis is out. Nikki Haley is pushing in New Hampshire. Donald Trump has officially retired the name
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Starting point is 00:04:58 no fun whatsoever. So looks like Ron DeSantis is out. Kind of a surprising move, don't you think? A little bit. Just because you'd think if he was going to do this, why not do it immediately after Iowa? You know, why wait? I guess that's the line.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And you could say, because they were arguing back and forth and deciding what to do, but this was my advice. When was it? Thursday or Friday. My advice was he should drop out now, do no more damage to his name. You don't want to look like you lost over and over and over again. Get out now. Stop the damage on the reputation. And I'm torn on that because I'm not sure what's going to happen with Donald Trump. I mean, you could make a case that he's going to go to jail. You could make the case that he's going to
Starting point is 00:05:51 make the case that he's going to hang himself with paper sheets. I mean, God only knows what these people are willing to do to stop him from being president of the United States. And I'd like to have somebody that has some delegates that can broker at the convention. Now, here's what I really would like to say today about Ron DeSantis, and that is, 47, Mr. President, listen carefully, please. Will you consider Ron DeSantis as your attorney general? I think he will do more good as attorney general even than he would as your vice president. Make him and Ron, please, if he is offered, please.
Starting point is 00:06:43 take it. Ron DeSantis has law experience up the wazoo. He's a proven fighter. He knows the deep state. If there's anyone who could go in and clean up the Justice Department and then start cleaning up all of the nightmares and return justice back to the Justice Department, I think it's Ron DeSantis. And I think if he would accept that and Donald Trump would announce that now, you would have huge momentum with Ronda Santas voters. You would also have it with Trump voters. And I think you'd begin, I think Donald Trump should start announcing his team.
Starting point is 00:07:25 And perhaps the least important one is vice president. Maybe that's me. That's interesting. He would be very good at that, I think. That would be, it's an interesting fit. You know, a lot of people are like, oh, well, they just said too many bad things about each other. That stuff gets repaired immediately.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Immediately. Yeah. I mean, the fact that he endorsed, not only, did he drop out? And the key part of this is he also endorsed Donald Trump, right? Like, there were people who were saying, well, maybe he'll endorse Nikki Haley, which is never going to happen. Never going to happen. But the fact that he could have done what Chris Christie did, right, where you drop out, you don't say anything about an endorsement. And then I guess you have 14 hamburgers or whatever Christie did after he dropped out. But you could have done that.
Starting point is 00:08:07 And, you know, that would have been a plausible thing for him to do. But he just, you know, went ahead and admitted what I think everybody knew for a long time, that Donald Trump is probably the person who's going to win this, and why not get on board now? Can we just, can we stop with this analyzing and re-analyzing Ron DeSantis and what did his team do wrong? You know, there's many things you could point out, but the biggest thing that needs to be pointed out is Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:08:39 once he was indicted, that race was over. It didn't matter how, it didn't matter if he had the dream team behind him or if he had, you know, the Keystone cops behind him. Ron DeSantis didn't have a chance to win as soon as Donald Trump was indicted. The mood of the country and the, uh, the voter changed. And people began to see Donald Trump for really who he is. He's kind of like us. If they'll do that to him, they'll do it to us. us. So he's kind of fighting for him and us at the same time. They see him as a man who has been
Starting point is 00:09:20 wronged, who could have given up, and is now on the verge of losing absolutely everything, everything. And yet what? We're going to go for somebody else? No. At this time, the American people, a majority of Republican voters see that as something that they feel, they should support because he's the guy supporting them and fighting the same fight that they're going to have to fight. So Ron didn't have a chance. Look, I think, I'm glad you brought that up because every piece of analysis I've been seeing and reading is like talking about the DeSantis campaign problems. And look, there were some. Yeah, of course. Do you want infighting at your super pack? No, you'd choose not to have that if you had the choice. However, if you think
Starting point is 00:10:10 that like, well, if everyone at the Super PAC were really good friends, he would have won in Iowa. I mean, like, that's just what are you talking about? Like, it's like everyone's analyzing the 20% of the problem when the 80% of the problem is being left unstated. 80% of the problem is that Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:10:26 is a very unique figure that has a lock on a lot of the voters in the party who got a lock on even more of them and an insurmountable amount when he got indicted. And the sort of conservative mind, you know, Jonathan Haidt going to that analysis of how conservatives think,
Starting point is 00:10:44 loyalty is a really big part of that. Fairness is a really big part of that. And a lot of people think, you know, look, Donald Trump deserves another chance here. And I don't know that that was ever able to be overcome. And to test this, Glenn, I mean, ask, you know, because I've heard this even from some people who really like Donald Trump, big Trump supporters. And it's like, okay, well, you know, Ron DeSantis, they say Ron DeSantis shouldn't have done this. He shouldn't have said this.
Starting point is 00:11:08 if his online supporters did this or that or whatever. And I get all that. And you can criticize some of that stuff fairly. But like at the end of the day, if Ronda Santos ran a perfect campaign, was he going to beat your guy? And not a single one of them would say yes. They'd all say, of course not. And they're right, most likely. I don't know that a perfect campaign could have won in this particular circumstance.
Starting point is 00:11:29 It's like arguing the best album of all time is from Beyonce and you're talking to an audience that 70% swifty. It's like it doesn't matter what you say. It doesn't matter how good Beyonce's album is. You're never going to win that argument. Look, here's the thing. No matter what he did, you know, Ron DeSantis had good numbers before the indictment. And when we were just looking at candidates, but what the Democrats did, right or wrong, I mean, it's definitely wrong, but strategy wise, right or wrong, I don't know, because I don't know what their real thought was on why to indict him, you know, for 7 billion years of prison time. But once they did that, all bets were off.
Starting point is 00:12:21 And Donald Trump has something else. And I'm not saying that Ron DeSantis doesn't have this, you know, or anybody that was running, doesn't have this. But this is in real question now from most people. Does this politician even like America? Do they like America? Donald Trump, the one thing you cannot question is he loves America, loves it. And that is kind of, it's strangely kind of a baseline.
Starting point is 00:12:54 You have to have that stone put into your foundation. And it has to be rock solid. And the one thing about Donald Trump is, you know he loves America. That's not to slight anybody else. It is to slight some of the Democrats. But it's not to slight anybody else that was running. It's just so very clear that Donald Trump is sincere in his love for America. And I think that goes a very long way.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I think so too. And look, people believe that he's going to be the guy. I mean, a lot of this is you look to a person who has done the job already. He's basically an incumbent to the Republicans, right? This is, already those advantages are built in. He's got an incredibly, you know, prominent profile, one of the most famous outside of maybe Taylor Swift, probably the most famous person in the world.
Starting point is 00:13:50 And, you know, he's a guy that people are lining up behind because most of the voters in the Republican voting populace believe he's being targeted and wronged in a major way in the fact that they're not only trying to, take away his presidency, his legacy, his future prospects, but also his life. You know, they want to take his life and throw it into prison. I think even, I think we are approaching a new time where you could go further than that. I hate to say that and I don't want to assign that to anyone.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I'm not saying that it's the Democrats or anything else, but I think there are those who hate Donald Trump so much and are sick. They're absolutely sick. and that wouldn't mind ending his life, unfortunately. That's, I mean, a dark place I don't want to go to, obviously. I know. I know you don't as well. But, like, you know, you get to that point where the question now just becomes, look,
Starting point is 00:14:49 number one, Nikki Haley has a chance to play out the string here. You know, she has a chance to try to be competitive and maybe win New Hampshire. I mean, the polls aren't particularly optimistic on that fact, but, like, she's going to get a decent percentage in that state. and, you know, have a chance to move on to South Carolina. It's her home state. She deserves the chance to play out the string. I don't want to act like it's completely over.
Starting point is 00:15:09 But, you know, for all intents and purposes, it probably is. We talked about that sort of tier one, tier two primary, right? The tier one is a normal campaign, the normal way things play out. Everyone competes to win. That one, to me, is largely over. You still have tier two, though, which is what happens to Donald Trump and what happens after if they throw them in prison. And who knows on that one?
Starting point is 00:15:33 What's interesting about Haley is there's really no reason to drop out. I don't know. Maybe I'm not going to see this the same way she does. But like if you're here, why not keep your campaign alive and just keep these delegates coming in at 25 and 30 percent? She'll probably get 25, 30 percent in most of these states. She'll be able to bank delegates. And, you know, if something happens with Donald Trump. And you have a say.
Starting point is 00:15:56 You have a say. And like, I don't know what the downside is. if she, you know, and this leaves only Ryan Binkley left, Glenn. And this, if I, and I have thought about this, I have not been able to figure out a way to do it. But if I could figure out a way to right now bet on Ryan Binkley being second place in the delegate count, I would do it. Because the most likely thing that happens here is Haley drops out. He's the only one left. And he just, and if you don't know who he is, he's running for president on the Republican side.
Starting point is 00:16:25 But he's got. That doesn't really help me knowing who he is. No, but he'll still. Is that just what he's doing currently? Right. I still have no idea who Binkley is. He is a Dallas businessman and pastor, and he's been running the whole time. But again, I don't think there's any reason for him to drop out.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And whoever isn't Donald Trump is going to get some delegates here, Haley, you'd think, would be, well, why not me? I can stick around if this thing falls apart at the top, which is possible. I mean, again, we keep talking about how serious these threats are for Donald Trump. it's not impossible that some of these legal threats wind up working out in a way that, you know, we all know we're going to the Supreme Court with him being on the ballot or not. My complete belief is that the Supreme Court will be correct on this and he will be placed on the ballot in these states. But it's not impossible that he's not. And if these things go the wrong way for Donald Trump, there has to be somebody else there.
Starting point is 00:17:18 What might happen is the party comes together and they just do something and like that's ugly. if you're Nikki Haley, you got a bunch of delegates, you at least have an argument at that table. And we're talking about the leadership of the free world here. I don't know. What part of her reputation is she really going to protect by dropping out? I don't know. I think that's going to be your calculus. I don't think she will.
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Starting point is 00:19:09 come out and vote for her. She's trying to play the independent thing. She has lots and lots of money from the dark side. Some of these really nefarious big donors that stand in the shadows on the left. And I don't think she's, um, I don't think she's, um, that stand in the shadows. And, uh, I don't think she's going to drop out because I think that is a contingency plan. Remember, Democrats always have win-win. You know, the left always has a win-win scenario. So we put Donald Trump goes to jail. The country puts him in jail, the justice system. And the right rises up and, you know, starts to demand justice and we're out in the streets. That's a win for the Democrats. They have Donald Trump in jail and they can make you look bad and their allies will come in and make
Starting point is 00:20:05 things even look worse. But what do you do? What do you do? You're in a lose-lose situation, right? But you've got to stand up. So what happens? Nikki Haley is, I think, a great win-win for the Democrats because she's now beholden to the money that she has received from all of these people. and if she continues on, they'll continue to spend the money to keep her campaign going, even though she's number two, because they know she'll have a real role with the delegates at the convention. Whether or not that is for Donald Trump to be in or in case Donald Trump is out, she's the obvious choice. That's the only reason why I didn't like Ronda Santis stepping out of these prime. primaries, but I guess you can still vote for Ron DeSantis.
Starting point is 00:21:04 You know, if it's if it's not close and I don't think it's going to be close with Donald Trump anymore, I think he's just going to walk away with all of it. I could be wrong, but I think he's going to walk away with all of it. It makes me nervous that Nikki Haley is going to be holding a lot of the delegates that were left on the table. And it's interesting, Glenn, if the legal situation does go the wrong way, for Trump, there is one word that you keep hearing over and over again that's going to become very key, which is suspend. Remember, these guys aren't stopping their campaigns. None of them are.
Starting point is 00:21:41 They're suspending their campaigns, meaning they can reactivate them. Usually the reason you do this is because you can still wind up finishing up with some business stuff. You can raise some money to pay some debts. You can do lots of things like that with your campaigns still open and not completely closed. here though, it might wind up being a totally different thing. If for some reason the legal situation goes the wrong way, you could see a lot of these candidates being like, all right, we still got a bunch of primaries left. I'm unsusending. I'm going to try to pick up some delegates to make a run at this. So Bobby Kennedy, you know, the guy who literally called for my execution over my disagreement with him on climate change, literally.
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Starting point is 00:24:20 and you'll save 30 bucks off your subscription to Blaze TV. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. So, apparently, Apparently, not everybody agrees with us on Nikki Haley. There is one person, and I know who they are, but they left this note on my desk, true confessions of an underground Nikki Haley supporter. He wrote, I'm writing this from a secure and heavily guarded location. I'm under 24-7 monitoring and protection, kind of like Epstein,
Starting point is 00:25:09 but I'm actually being cared for. There's a lot of debate within the Conservative Party, but unlike the Democratic Party, the Republican Party typically is open, is open to differing ideas unless you're a Nikki Haley supporter. Apparently, then straight to the gulag with you. Yeah, pretty much, pretty much, right? I mean, is that, no.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I'm writing this anonymously to save my family from embarrassment and ridicule. My name is John Doe, and I am a Nikki Haley supporter. Let me explain before you docks me. People say Nikki is a Democrat. Well, do you know who else was a Democrat up until five minutes ago? The right's favorite loud mouth, Vivek Ramaswamy.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Donald Trump was notorious hanging around the Democratic circles before switching over to the right. And iconic Republican President Ronald Reagan was on the left side as well. So Nikki is in good company. Well, no, there's actually, I mean, if you look at, the examples you gave, they all started on the left and then they moved right where Nikki, well, I don't need to. Being a Nikki Haley supporter is being like a Dallas Cowboys fan. Everybody hates her for every reasonable, a reason imaginable. You can get hate from every side. You know what she's capable of, but she just won't do it. I know what you can be, Nikki,
Starting point is 00:26:32 and I want people to see you how I see you. But don't just help yourself when you, but you don't help yourself when you appear wishy-washy on abortion and transgenderism in children. You have a successful track record, just like Ron DeSantis does. You started the campaign off strong, just like the Cowboys, but you're choking in the playoffs, Nikki. You had a decent showing in the Iowa caucus. New Hampshire and South Carolina are yours for the taking now that DeSantis is out. Just don't say anything stupid.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Please don't disappoint me. I've been disappointed in you enough this year already. That's a great endorsement there of Nikki Haley. And we all know who this is. There's somebody on our staff that show up in Nikki Haley T-shirts all the time. That's not necessarily a good endorsement. I will say it is a bit extreme to call her a Democrat. I mean, she does have a good record.
Starting point is 00:27:29 She was a good governor in South Carolina generally. Again, I think she's out of step with certain things in the Republican electorate right now. as Pat will be happy to outline Pat Gray is with us and he can outline every part of this. But like, to call her a Democrat is just, you know, it's primary nonsense, right? Like, she's not a Democrat. She would be much better than Joe Biden. Well, the problem is a lot of her support in New Hampshire is coming from Democrats. And so
Starting point is 00:27:59 and a lot of her money is coming from. That's the big thing. The money is coming from there. Right. Right. But again, it's a, it's a big, difference between. Of Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis, who would you have thought six months ago would be among the final two? Yeah. Well, you know, if we were honest. Honestly, if we really would have looked at it, we would have probably said that it would be Ron DeSantis. Yeah. Down to those three. No, I'm sorry, Nikki Haley, down to those three, if we had really thought about it, because the Ron DeSantis voter is really the Donald Trump voter. None of those people are going to go,
Starting point is 00:28:37 away from Donald Trump, I think. But I mean, this whole thing, she's still around and she's in second place or whatever is a little misleading. It's like, John Kasich also quote unquote finished in second, right? Like, I mean, he didn't finish in second, but he was, he hung around longer than cruised it. We got DeSantis beat her in Iowa. Yeah, which supposedly punched his ticket to continue. Right. Which you think. Okay, well, was your ticket revoked? It was revoked. Six days later. I believe the answer to that was revoked by his donors is what it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:06 The rumor was he was talking to his donors and his donors said, look, it's not going to happen and we're not going to keep funding this. And that's when this decision was made. And that's what's weird about Nikki Haley. The Democratic donors are like, yes, we'll continue to fund you. That's the real problem with Nikki Haley is the donors that are coming from the left. Yeah. Was it donors or was there some kind of arrangement made with Trump, do you think? Is that possible that Trump has offered him a position?
Starting point is 00:29:36 either vice president or some cabinet position if he gets out right now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. First of all, I don't think Ronda Sances would take the vice president role. I'd love it if he did, but I don't think he would take it if it was offered. Should. I think he should be offered and should accept the AG role right now. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Maybe he's the attorney general. He'd clean up that mess. His background is law. He's really serious about it. He could really root out. out the deep state and do all the things that, you know, the president, you know, can't necessarily because he can't be involved with justice. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:30:18 There's a lot of candidates for that particular job. I mean, Cruz would be great at that job. Cruz would be great. And, you know, he's become much more friendly. Mike Lee would be a past. What about Chris Christie? Who's been attorney general? Yes?
Starting point is 00:30:30 Yeah. Wait, why didn't he talk about that during the campaign? I think he mentioned it once. Oh, okay. But you have to listen really carefully. Really careful. Really carefully. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:39 So who do you think he should pick for it? Because he said he came out and he said, I've already selected my running mate and people are not going to be that surprised by my selection. And he said, I don't think it's going to have that much an effect on the election. I think to me that signals
Starting point is 00:31:01 Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Oh. Well. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. Might be her. Nobody would be surprised by that. That's true. And it won't really affect the election.
Starting point is 00:31:15 It's a woman. It's somebody who's loyal, somebody that won't take the spotlight. True. We did talk about that little nugget in an article about the vice presidency where it said, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the fact that she waited as long as she did to endorse Trump was quote unquote noticed. in the inner circles of Donald Trump. So who else could it be? Christy Knoem.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I think Christy Knoem's a possibility. Possible. Because she's, look, the Christy Knoem, as Donald Trump says often about candidates, right out of central casting, right? Like she's an attractive candidate. She had more ways than one. Thank you, Pat. You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:31:56 We didn't get that. No, I just wanted to make sure that that was forced. Yeah. But also she's smart. And the other thing is, And this is not a, I don't mean this has a knock on Christy Noam, but the one thing you talk about her as a candidate for the future or as her at the top of the ticket is she's kind of boring. Like she's not like a particularly like engaging.
Starting point is 00:32:19 It's not going to happen. She's smart but refined and kind of like just lays things out. But she's not a camera seeker. And that's when people talk about Vivek Ramoswamy for this role, like Vivek loves being in front of the camera, loves fighting. with everybody. And I don't, that's not usually the profile that Trump goes for in these positions. So I don't know. Maybe he will this time. The other person that was he doesn't, hang on just a second. He does not need somebody who has personal problems and names to be dragged out. Just he doesn't need that. I don't know. It's the type of thing that
Starting point is 00:32:56 Trump completely can overcome. This is a criticism of known, but made me made by some people. But it's like, I don't know. I mean, it kind of puts her in a position where, certainly loyalty is more likely in a situation like that. Let me put it that way. Another person who I think, if you take out the identity politics of this and you just say, like we always talk about not caring about skin color or gender, right? If you take all that out, you know, J.D. Vance is a really interesting candidate for that role. He's super smart. He can argue with anybody. He knows the media. Ohio. He's famous in his own right. It's a somewhat, I mean, I don't think Trump's got to have any sharp. will be surprised. People would be surprised by that. You're right. I agree with you. You'd make a great candidate, but that would be a surprising candidate. Donald Trump said, you're not, people will not be that surprised when I announce and it will never really, it will never have that big of an effect on who I choose. So he's not going to choose a game changer and he's going to choose somebody that everybody go, oh yeah, that makes sense. I don't think J.D. Vance is in that category.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Yeah. Our friend Yaku Boyans is saying that he's hearing Ben Carson being tossed around. I have heard that tossed around. Yeah. I don't like that. That would not be surprising. It wouldn't. Because it couldn't get anybody more quiet. But I think it would be bad. Yeah, I do too. I do think that loyalty is going to be the number one thing he thinks about, right? Because he believes. And I think Carson's would fit that bill. Right. I would be anyone who you would say, easy test. If you put that person in the same situation as Mike Pence, would they agree with Mike Pence or not? And if the answer is yes, they would agree with Mike Pence, I don't think there's any chance
Starting point is 00:34:43 they get this job. Right. I just fundamentally, this is the most like life-changing moment in his political career, right? Maybe his entire life that he believes he was wronged at. Again, putting aside whether he was wrong. But like, you know, if he believes that, why would he choose someone who would go down that same road. And I feel like that's going to be his number one. He's going to say a lot of things, Glenn. I think it's tough to read the tea leaves with Donald Trump because he likes the drama.
Starting point is 00:35:09 He likes, I know. I know. The reality show part of him loves him talking to one candidate. Look, it looks like I'm going to fire you, but then I'm going to fire you. Like he loves doing that. So it's hard to know with him. He is when he announces there will be music. He'll say, and my selection is, and then dun dun, bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum. Camber top! Whoa! I did not see that coming at all! He does like that drama. He does. He does like that drama.
Starting point is 00:35:40 So anytime he says something like, you're not going to be surprised, like, who knows if he's trying to throw people off the scent, whether he's even made the decision or not? I don't think you can trust anything he says to the media, especially in these moments. But when you look at trying to break it down, you know, I think a lot of these candidates do fall. I don't, Nikki Haley to me, doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I don't see why he would do that. The only thing, the, some of the analysis I've read by people who are, you know, on the inside of the Trump world, say the one thing he would do to choose someone like Haley would be if he was convinced it was the only chance he could win. Like if he got to the plate where he believed he was behind and he saw Haley is overwhelmingly popular and he thought it could bring him across the finish line. He'd pick anyone. She's not, though. No, I don't think so either. No, and she would hurt the diehard Trump supporter. They would be like, come on, man, don't sell out.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Well, I don't know. I was talking to Dave Marcus, the guy I do the Megan Kelly show with when I go on there. And Dave brought up a point. It's weird because I do it with Megan Kelly. I do it with Dave and Megan, and it's great. And I'm not in the Radio Hall of Fame. And you bring that up, you know, twice a day. So I get it.
Starting point is 00:36:52 But he brought up an interesting point, which is there's part of the Trump experience, which is like he doesn't. care about that. If he believes it's the right thing, he believes his voters will go along with it. Right? Like the whole famous thing about... That is right about that. I'd shoot people on Fifth Avenue and I wouldn't lose any votes. He believes that. And he says, look, if I think Nikki Haley's the right person, then get on board. Nick Haley's the right person. And I think that's true if he makes that decision. But I don't think he'd make that decision for any other reason than he believed it was necessary to win,
Starting point is 00:37:24 which certainly right now it's not. I mean, he's at the best position in the polls he's been in any of his presidential runs right now. That's one of the reasons why I like Ramoswamy, because there's a new poll out. I'll tell you about this new poll about Gen Z voters and what they're saying right now. This is not good for President Joe Biden, but it is an opening for somebody. Will Donald Trump capitalize on it? We'll talk about that here in just a second. Thank you, Pat, for stopping by.
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Starting point is 00:41:49 the poll shows that Donald Trump has more support than Joe Biden. In the latest USA Today, Suffolk University poll, that revealed that Trump leads Biden among voters under the age of 35, with 37% of these voters supporting Trump compared to 33%. supporting Biden. This is honestly the reason why I really thought Ramoswami would make a good vice president because not only would he help get the younger vote out for Donald Trump, I think you would begin to teach that younger generation, just like Kennedy did, to vote for this particular party because they're the party of change and a bright future.
Starting point is 00:42:37 and listening to them. I think that's why the most important thing Ramoswami could do for President Trump at this point. Okay, we would need to talk about what's happening with your wallet. We'll talk about the economy. Next. Hello, America, welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We've got a lot on our plate today. I'm going to explain the DeSantis and Trump campaigns and this election cycle.
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Starting point is 00:47:22 So off to a fantastic start. So let me give some good news to this fantastic audience. Big news from Florida. The law that we spoke about, the last time that Justin Haskins was in town in Dallas, we were talking to a Florida representative. It is working. More than 100 Florida banks, including some huge nationally chartered banks,
Starting point is 00:47:50 have just signed an agreement with the state that they will not discriminate on the basis of customers' political views. This is one of the main reasons why we wanted this in the first. first place. You can see the legislation I'm going to tweet it out here in just a minute or so. The legislation behind this is the same that we've been promoting since the Great Reset book was released in January of 2022. Same legislation that lawmakers learned about when they came to the summit that we hosted at Mercury 1 in Dallas. And it's the same one that I talked about when I was on the stage at the pro-family legislative conference
Starting point is 00:48:31 in November of 2023. This is a massive, massive win. Donald Trump has also formally committed on the campaign trail to stopping banks from discriminating on the basis of politics the whole point of the bill that we were pushing in Florida. If other states pass bills like the one in Florida,
Starting point is 00:48:51 we will win and destroy ESG. We're getting an update. Hopefully I'll have one by the end of the show on how many other states are taking this up. But Florida, again, is leading the way. Donald Trump says he is right with this. We need your state to follow Florida's lead. The banks are jumping off and they are actually signing promises that they will not consider your politics when looking at loans or anything else.
Starting point is 00:49:24 That is huge, Carol. huge. That is huge. And I want to point out, Glenn, this is the second grassroots win that we've heard about within the last seven days. And I am so proud of you and everyone in your audience who has been saying, I'm not sure that I can make a difference, but, you know, I'm going to try. I'm going to write a letter. I'm going to send some comments in, whether it's to my state legislator or representative or to my governor or whoever it is, we're seeing that when enough people stand up, they can make a difference. And that should inspire and fire everybody else up to continue this because it is working. And so I'm thrilled, by the way, that I get to say some,
Starting point is 00:50:08 participate in some good news on your program. I know. I know. I know. That's going to end soon. Your mood won't improve much. But I do want to point out what you just said. talk about what happened last week that was another massive win and it started with this audience. It 100% started with this audience and it started with you and Marlow Oaks, the treasurer out of Utah, who brought to our attention these natural asset companies and the fact that the New York Stock Exchange had gone to the SEC and said, we want to list them. We want to list these companies who can control and manage now. resources and we said, no, this isn't going to happen. And so you brought this to everyone's
Starting point is 00:50:55 attention. We came up with a template. People from this audience, hundreds of people from this audience came, emailed me personally for that template, sent it in. And there was so much pressure that the SEC didn't even get to rule. The New York Stock Exchange withdrew the rule because of the pressure from patriots, from this audience. It was an absolutely huge victory. So now we've got this. We've got the ESG. We've got the non-discrimination. We have momentum. So certainly lots more work to be done. But everybody should take that moment to take a victory lap. It doesn't mean you have a party for the rest of the year. But for a quick moment to say, I made a difference. If I participated, and if you didn't do it the last time around,
Starting point is 00:51:41 next time around. Do it the next time. Do it the next time. Because the more people who do it, the more of a chance we have to make that difference. So we're going to going to get into why this is so critical that you understand the power that you have and really know it, it's critical. Make sure you're listening next hour because I'm going to show you massive moves now being made on silencing voices like ours to alert people like you. So you may have to be the replacement voice to encourage others. It is, The digital ghettos are being made right now, and they're going to start putting people behind those walls soon.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Okay, so Carol, let me explain the discount window and see if I have it right. Discount window at the Fed, think of a bunch of windows at a bank where you walk up to windows. The discount window was where banks, if they walked into the Fed, which is the bank of banks, okay, so all those windows, there's bankers at the windows, no people like, you and the discount window was the kind of shameful window at the end that everybody could see. And you could walk up to the discount window if your bank was in trouble and say, I need to borrow some more money. I need it here because we're getting a little dicey on our books.
Starting point is 00:53:08 And all the bankers could look over to see who is in line at that discount window. And then they'd say, Bank of George is in trouble. Did you see that? George was just up there. The Bank of Georgia is in real trouble. And so it was shameful and nobody wanted to go up to that discount window. After 2008, they took all that shame away. And now you can walk up and go, man, right?
Starting point is 00:53:33 Are we all in trouble? You bet. Can you give me some more money? Do I have that right? Pretty similar. And it's an unfortunate name because the discount window does sound like a place at Nordstrom where you'd maybe get a discount on some good goods, right? But you said it is sort of has a stigma attached to it.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Correct. Within the banking system, within the plumbing, as you noted, banks lend to each other on a regular basis. And if you're in good shape, you may go if you have a liquidity need over a night or for a short term, you may go to another bank and you may get a loan. And that's actually what the Fed funds rate sets that target rate of lending at that we hear. We hear, oh, you know, we're going to go up 50 basis points. We're going to go down. that's that interbank lending rate. The discount window, as you mentioned, is at the Fed. Funny enough, it's not even at a discount. It's actually at a premium to the Fed funds rate because
Starting point is 00:54:27 banks who can't get the money elsewhere have to go to the Fed. We've heard the phrase the Fed is the lender of last resort. And that's if you're in line at that discount window, it's because you've got nowhere else to go in order to get that money for your liquidity. So while that, that information isn't reported, usually on a case-by-case basis for about two years, you don't know specifically, there's enough detail that participants in the market can infer who's going to those windows. And then also, it's a very important market signal, because in the aggregate, if we're seeing a lot of loans being taken down via the discount window, which is reported on a regular basis, we can infer that there's trouble in the banking system.
Starting point is 00:55:16 So like we did last March, when there was the banking crisis, you saw this huge spike in discount window usage. So I think that kind of pieces this all together. Okay. So now what has the Fed done? So there is a new rule that is being worked on. This had been rumored to be happening for a long time. And now it's finally come out. And it's between the Fed, the Treasury, and the, I believe it's the FDIC.
Starting point is 00:55:44 and they are planning to say, well, because there's so much, well, actually, they're not saying because I'm getting ahead of myself. So they're basically saying they're going to introduce a new rule that if you are a bank over a certain size, I think the $100 billion is the assumed cutoff point, that we're going to force you to use the Fed discount window every year on whether you need a loan, whether you don't need a loan, whether you could borrow from another bank, matter, we're going to make sure that you do it. And the reason they think we're so stupid. They say, well, the reason we had this crisis in March wasn't because we had all of these underwater securities on banks balance. No, no, no, that wasn't the issue. It was because they couldn't figure out how to use the discount window. So this will be like a dress rehearsal or a fire drill. So if you do it on a regular basis, now you know and we can avoid the other crisis, which is absolutely insane.
Starting point is 00:56:48 And if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. That is like, that is like cops saying, yeah, well, we've got to fire our guns, you know, at people once in a while because otherwise if something happens, we won't know how to fire guns at people. I mean, that's crazy. Of course they know how to use it. that's their job to learn how to use it. It seems to me they're forcing these banks to do it so we don't know who's in trouble anymore. Bingo. So there is this great newsletter called FX Hedge
Starting point is 00:57:21 and they brought this out into the open has sort of surmised the different reasons why this was happening. And I'll add my own flavor in here too. But like you said, the obvious reason is that they're trying to obfuscate the information and the signals. They're trying to hide what is going on in the bank. system. So that's the clear reason, the only reason why you would force everybody to do it, because of course, if you're part of the Fed system, you're going to know how to use the discount
Starting point is 00:57:48 window, right? They're big huge banks and they can't figure out how to use the discount window. I mean, it's absolutely insane. But it also kind of, if you start going down the line, it means that they must think that there's some reason for them having to hide this information, which is the various issues and weakness that we have known for a while remains. in the banking system. On top of that, this FX Hedge newsletter also talked about the idea of consolidation, something that you and I have spoken about
Starting point is 00:58:20 a lot within the banking system and centralization. That if the banks are no longer lending to each other and they're now relying on the Fed, this is shifting the banking system away from more of a quasi-free market to a more Fed-controlled system, which we know, is something that we have been concerned about with CBDC. And then a fourth reason could be these liquidity issues that we're seeing in the treasury
Starting point is 00:58:48 market and the need for the Fed to find ways to increase its balance sheet without calling it QE. So lots of possible different reasons, but certainly that first hallmark reason that they're trying to hide information and issues within the banking system is just, it's not a not only a head scratcher, but it's a red neon sign. Okay. Hang on, Carol, I've got to take a quick break. The commercial I'm paying for because it's my company, so I'm just going to give it a real quick hit because what we're talking about here with what's coming in the economy is too
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Starting point is 00:59:58 I trust.com. Go there first when you're looking for a representative or real estate agent for you. Real estate agents.itrust.com. 10 seconds, station ID back to Carol. Okay, so Carol, there's also something going on that I don't understand, and that is we are now, I guess, the U.S. has proposed that we just take $300 billion of Russian assets, unfreeze them, and I guess what, divvy them up to us? What is this? All right, so this is a proposal that is expected to be put forward at the end of February, and it's something we need to keep our eyes on. because in the context of the discussions we've been having about de-dollarization and the U.S. being the global reserve currency, it's very important. There are people like Larry Summers, who, as you may remember, was a former Treasury Secretary under Clinton. He was also Obama's director of the NEC. And so he's been working with some other economist folks in the G7, and they are exploring ways as a group to figure out how they,
Starting point is 01:01:15 they can legally take all of the assets or at least $300 billion of the assets that they froze back when Russia invaded Ukraine. You remember they did this. They weaponized the dollar and it created all sorts of issues and they had frozen those reserves so Russia couldn't access them. Well, now they're trying to justify legally that they have the ability to seize those fully. So not just freeze them. We went from freeze to seize, take them. And what they want to do is they want to do is they want. to give them to Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:01:48 They're going to compensate Ukraine in some way, shape, or form. I know it totally doesn't sound like money laundering at all, Glenn. I'm not suggesting that. But, yeah, so they wanted to use this $300 billion that belongs to Russia, seize it, quote, unquote, legally. And so they have been in this working group, and it's expected that at the end of February, I think that the dates February 24th,
Starting point is 01:02:15 they're going to be in this group and that they are going to make this announcement. And if you go to Larry Summers' Twitter, you know, he's talking about, you know, oh, I'm so excited that the G7's on board with this and this is the moral and right thing to do. This is, you know, I can't even believe that they're trying to position it this way because obviously when they took the step to freeze the reserve assets, this in terms of our position is the World Reserve, of currency and the trust of the US created all kinds of ripple effects. And now if you're somebody who buys food or energy that's priced in dollars, you're trying to find a workaround, which is why we've been seeing this de-dollarization, why we've been seeing
Starting point is 01:03:00 this trade going on from China and other countries in other currencies and in many cases settled with gold because of this. Now they're going to just say, we're going to take them and give them to whoever it is that we want. This is an epic disaster. It is a complete dereliction of duties. And somebody in Congress needs to get the Fed and the government under control because we cannot do this. Unless Glenn, and we've talked about this before, this is an entirely intentional way to, you know, get the dollar to continue to topple and not beat the World Reserve Currency. Let me ask you something on Jamie Diamond. Last week, he was at the World Economic Forum, and he came out shockingly, you know, very praiseworthy of Trump saying, you know, hey, we should listen to. He's right about a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:03:53 People didn't understand what he was doing. I saw this as a way of auditioning for Donald Trump to say, make me your Treasury Secretary. Does that sound right to you or plausible? I'm so glad that you said that because I had some people who went to the J.P. Morgan Healthcare Conference, which is their marquee, conference in January, and he gave a sort of internal speech there. Somebody asked him, said, Jamie, would you ever want to be president? And he said, well, I've seen these wonderful business people going before and run campaigns and they haven't been successful. But, you know, if somebody tapped me on the shoulder, then I would have to rise to the occasion. So he is putting the word out in his circle that he is interested in something much higher. So I'm with you, and there's something there.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Yeah, something big. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Carol Roth, the name of her book is, You Will Own Nothing. She's not claiming that you'll like it. You'll just own nothing. A must read for everybody in this audience.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Her name is Carol Roth. We'll talk to her again. If you have questions for Carol, please go to her website, go to her Twitter and ask her. She can clarify a lot of things. When we come back, the Democratic Socialists
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Starting point is 01:06:50 here's what I think people are missing. JFK was imaged as Camelot. You were swept up in a moment where this guy was King Arthur and it was Camelot and it was beautiful and it was perfect. That's what was sweeping the nation with JFK. Just as much as that is true as the moment, the moment, the moment, the Democrats, for whatever reason, decided to persecute Donald Trump and his family by prosecuting him on absolutely everything. That's when Donald Trump, 47, as I like to call him, became Braveheart. Just as much as JFK was Camelot and King Arthur, Donald J is Braveheart. And when they decided to go after him,
Starting point is 01:07:48 that's when he had been riding his horse back and forth in front of everybody before, but that's when a guy who didn't have to fight, draws his sword and screams, Freedom! It was a battle of legends, Titans now. And DeSantis was just a very good politician, very good conservative, very good governor, and could be a very good president. but he wasn't braveheart. And that's the difference.
Starting point is 01:08:22 And why Ronda Santis at the beginning was doing well. The moment they said we're coming after Donald Trump legally and began all of that, he became a legend and a symbol. And Ronda Santis was not that symbol and did not have a chance after that moment, at least in my opinion. Now, there's a couple of things you need to know. Bloomberg is reporting today. Outside ownership of U.S. crop land is drawing attention from Washington as concerns rises about the possible threats to food supply chains and other national security risks.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Huh. America is seeing more and more of its most fertile land snapped up by China and other foreign buyers, yet problems with how the U.S. track such data means, it's difficult to know just how much foreign ownership and investment in property such as farmland, pastures, and forests jumped to 40 million acres in 2021. That is up 40%. Now, that's according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data. However, they don't really know because the laws require foreigners to self-report.
Starting point is 01:09:46 And apparently there's some of that that's slipping through the cracks just a little bit, just a little bit. For some reason, China's not reporting. So we have absolutely no idea of what is coming. Do we have the audio in the next story, the audio, I think it's cut 35. This is a guy on the border who is answering a reporter's question, where'd you come from? Who are you? And listen to what he says. If you are smart enough, you would know who I am. But you are really not smart enough to know who I am. But soon you're going to know who I am. Very.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Wow. Very easy. The entitlement. The entitlement. No, believe it. I'm much better than that. The entitlement, guys. Oh. And immediately they're saying, oh, entitlement. No, no, that doesn't sound like entitlement. you're much too stupid to know who I am, he says, as he's crossing into America. Sounds, was that a British accent I heard, Stu? I'm not quite sure. You're too stupid to know who I am, but soon you will know my name. Oh, okay. Well, that's what I like to hear on our borders, is that kind of talk.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Then you also have Sahara Dula, 24. She's a New England College Criminal Justice graduate who wants to specialize in crisis communication. A video has now captured Dula driving the wrong way on Park Avenue near East 71st Street in Manhattan, around 4.30 Wednesday when an officer approached her to turn her around. She then floored her Lexus and hit the officer. She was later found to be high on. marijuana she told an investigators quote I told the cop I wanted to go straight and he wouldn't move so I hit him I did it on purpose F these cops he wouldn't move well the cop has a
Starting point is 01:11:56 broken leg extensive bruising he was in a hospital but the Manhattan assistant district attorney Lucy Shepard didn't charge Dula with attempted murder instead she'll face charges for first-degree attempted assault, attempted aggravated assault upon a police officer, second-degree assault, second-degree reckless endangerment and operating a vehicle while impaired with drugs and reckless driving. However, she has kind of a history. She has a record of past arrest, including a criminal mischief arrest in March 22 after destroying property. The charges were dropped. She was arrested at least twice in New Hampshire, including an arrest in 2020 for failing to stop at an intersection in the town of Henneker and striking another vehicle. She then fled the scene.
Starting point is 01:12:50 She was also arrested for simple assault in an incident in Concord Hospital. Now, she may be mentally ill, okay, but she should not be on the streets. And we just keep turning criminals over again. and again and again and again. There is one parent now that is suing a town because they allowed a illegal to go free. And he went back and I believe raped their daughter, maybe killed their daughter.
Starting point is 01:13:26 So that's good. You know, we just keep letting these people out. So let me just give you a synopsis of basically what I just told you here. We have cropland being bought up by foreign entities, and it poses a possible threat to our food supply. So food shortages. We have the banking community covering up who's going to a discount window, which tells you who's in trouble. And if the banking system is in trouble, they're now covering that up. You have crazy people and people who just believe that, you know, they have a right.
Starting point is 01:14:07 to act whatever the way they want to act because me, me, me, and I'm black or I'm Hispanic or I'm anything but white. You can act wherever you want. And we're looking at all of these things. And then Biden says over the weekend, as he was addressing mayors at the U.S. Conference of mayors. He told the mayors that, you know, we've spent $15 billion on infrastructure and public safety. And money of, much of that money went directly to cities to hire and help equip police officers. Really? Really? And he said, we have to get guns off the streets.
Starting point is 01:15:00 He said, when we passed the Second Amendment, you weren't allowed to have a cannon. not not entirely true. But he said, here's the thing. If you want to water the tree of Patriots, it has to be watered with blood, but you're going to need an F-16, not an AR-15, to take on the government. First of all, I think, yeah, well, whatever,
Starting point is 01:15:25 it seemed to work out well for those people who are now running Afghanistan seem to work out well that they just had, you know, automatic weapons or semi-automatic weapons, even though you had F-16s. And surprisingly, now they seem to have much of our military over there, too. But we're not just concerned about taking on the government. We are also concerned about the crazies that you have released into our streets, the lawlessness to be able to protect ourselves.
Starting point is 01:16:00 I'm sorry, but anybody who is, is, is questioning our judicial system and saying, we got to, we got to forget about bail. We got to release these people on the streets. Anybody who is sending immigrants, calling them immigrants when they're illegal aliens and putting 10 million people who we don't know who they are, but one that comes in with sounds like maybe a Middle Eastern accent, says, you're too stupid to know who I am, but soon you will know my name. I don't know. I think the average American should be allowed to protect and defend themselves and have a gun. My gosh. What, what? I mean, when John Fetterman starts to talk common sense, I think that's one of the horsemen. That might be like the third and a half horseman of the apocalypse.
Starting point is 01:16:58 John, John Fetterman, he is a deep progressive, okay? He's not a conservative. But when he stands up and says, you know, the border crisis is threatening to destroy the American dream. I don't know. He said, quote, I honestly don't understand why it's controversial to say we need a secure border. You know what? Neither do I. John Fetterman?
Starting point is 01:17:28 neither do I. This is another reason why Donald Trump does well. There is no question that he loves America. There's no question. You may disagree with him. You may not like the way he talks or whatever, but you cannot argue that he loves America. It's clear he does.
Starting point is 01:17:52 And that's in question with a lot of people on both the left and the right. If you're not doing anything about the border, you're not doing anything with all of the crime that is now happening, you're not doing anything about the fentanyl that's being shoved over from China to Mexico to the gangs, you don't care about the people that are being raped on the border over and over and over again.
Starting point is 01:18:19 If you don't care about terrorists coming across, If you don't care about the fact, the fact that as you print more money, you make the dollar weaker, inflation goes up, and it always ends the same in the collapse. If you don't care about any of that, I do question your loyalty to the United States of America. I do. If you don't care who's buying up farmland and it's China, I question if you love the country or not. But it's not just that. Next hour, I am going to show you a survey that has just been taken by the elites and the Uber elites. These are the people that run the companies.
Starting point is 01:19:10 They're the ones that are in governments around the world. They are the ones who went to Harvard and Ivy League schools. These are the elites and the Uber elites. They just had them take. a survey, they couldn't be further away from you if they tried. I'll share that coming up in just a minute. All right, we are in almost the end of January now. And if you blew all your New Year's resolutions, which I know I did, you can do, come up with a new one for just a couple of minutes in the morning that can take care of all your wrinkles that you might have. Gen 90 is the new instant wrinkle treatment
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Starting point is 01:21:19 You know, I ask you to pull your car over because I don't want you to, I don't, you're going to be shocked at this next story. And especially if you had the jab, I don't want you to have heart failure or anything like that. Completely unrelated to the jab. So I don't even know why I said. that but the Democratic Socialists of America are in financial trouble. Yeah, no, I've said it. I've said it. I know it's shocking. Come on. The DSA, which has led all the protests against Israel over, you know, the October 7th terrorist attack now has to cut $500,000 from staff-related expenses. And they're asking, they're not just doing that, they're asking first for volunteers from both the director level and the bargaining unit staff
Starting point is 01:22:15 to have their positions cut and receive severance. Now, why would it be the director level and the bargaining unit staff, Stu? I mean, they just should ask for people to volunteer to, you know, no longer get paid and just eliminate the position. Why are they singling those two out? Because I'm guessing the Democratic Socialists of America have a very flat, pay scale, right? Well, yeah, so flat that I assume all of them make the exact same amount.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Right. Right. Right. Right. I mean, maybe they could just move them all into their offices like a commune and pay them nothing. Just give them, you know, to each according to his need. Yes.
Starting point is 01:23:00 You know, that type of thing. Whatever that saying is. Yeah. Yes. We should do that. If necessary, there will explore initiating layoffs. according to the DSA's union contract, who would have known that they were union?
Starting point is 01:23:15 Now, a lot of people are saying that, you know, there were some Jewish supporters that were part of the DSA, and they stopped giving their money when they realized, oh, wow, it's true that the Democratic Socialist America hate the Jews. Maybe I should stop giving money. But, no, I'm, well, I'm not sure what it is. It doesn't seem like, it honestly doesn't seem like socialists ever run out of other people's money. The Glenn Beck Program.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Hello, America. Welcome to the program. Well, we're going to talk a little bit about what's happening in New Hampshire tomorrow and how that is shaping up. Ron DeSantis dropped out over the weekend. Donald Trump is looking to sweep now. But Nikki Haley is still in the race. What's happening in New Hampshire? We'll tell you about that coming up in a minute, but first, the World Economic Forum last week made it very, very clear to all of the elites of the world.
Starting point is 01:25:21 And you need to understand it as clearly as they do. They have just put out a global risks report. And it lays out the most significant risks and severe risks that we face over the next decade, five years, and year. This has come out to say the number one thing that could destroy America and the world is miss and disinformation that is coming from unauthorized actors out of the mainstream trusted press. We'll tell you about that coming up in just a second along with a shocking survey of who the elites are. What do they actually believe? Wait until you hear this coming up in 60 seconds. Let me tell you about American financing first.
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Starting point is 01:27:32 with American Financing. Go to Americanfinancing.net. That's Americanfinancing.net, or call 906 2440. NMLS-182334. NMLS Consumer Access.org. APR for the rates in the five, starts at 6.275% for well-qualified buyers. Call 800906 2440 for details about credit costs and terms. So there is a new poll out that was conducted on behalf of the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, which divided respondents between elites, people with at least one postgraduate degree, earning more than $150,000, and living. in zip codes where the population density exceeds 10,000 people per square mile. And then they put everybody else in the general public. Okay. So you had to have at least one postgraduate degree, a $150,000 job plus, and live in a zip code that's high density. Okay. Everybody else was not considered elite. They then recorded the responses of a subset of super, super elites and elites now the super elites were those who graduated from the prestigious private universities the ivy league duke stanford northwestern and that made you a super elite wait until you hear what they found it's not going to come as a surprise but 73 percent of the upper class the super elites uh
Starting point is 01:29:10 and the elites consider themselves Democrats and approve of Joe Biden's performance at 84%. So 73% of the super elites and the elites are Democrats, and by 84%, that 73% loves Joe Biden's work. Now that's surface level. listen to this. 74% of the elites and 88% of the super elites report their personal finances are on the upswing. Not a surprise, right? The bulk of those who remain say they're either unsure or they're getting neither better nor worse. Then there is just a negligible portion of respondents to say their pocketbooks are getting lighter.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Now that's all in the elites. compare that to the Americans more generally the rest of the people in the survey that don't fit into those categories I just explained. It's hard to believe they're living in the same country. We are becoming more and more divided in our country with everything, with absolutely everything. 40% of Americans say their financial situation is worsening and only 20% say it's improving. So those who are elites, they all say it's getting good. 88% say it's on the upswing. 20% of the regular people say it's improving.
Starting point is 01:30:45 40% say it's getting bad. Now, let's look into the rest. The class disproportionately represented in positions of influence don't feel the same economic pain that Americans do the rest of us. Because of that, it makes them less likely to take steps
Starting point is 01:31:15 that will alleviate your pain but will actually make things worse. They're supporting Biden because they're getting richer. You're feeling pain. So the elites don't see this as really a problem because they're fine. A stunning 77%
Starting point is 01:31:35 77% of elites and 89% of super elites support strict rationing of meat, gas, and electricity. Let me say that number again. 77% of elites and 89% of super elites support strict rationing of meat, gas, and electricity. 72% and 81% would ban gas-powered cars. 55% and 70% would prevent Americans from engaging in non-essential air travel. 47 and 55% believe the government affords Americans too much freedom. Holy cow. The rest of the country doesn't feel.
Starting point is 01:32:37 that way the the percentage of those who are not elites or super elites that would agree to any of those things is between 16 and 25 percent 70 percent of elites double the number of average Americans and 89 percent of super elites say they trust the government to do the right thing this is not a war against Republicans and Democrats this is the elites versus everybody else. They don't see the world the same way at all. And I know this to be true.
Starting point is 01:33:18 When you live in, let's say, Manhattan, you're living in, if you're living, you know, anywhere near the park, you are not living with real people that understand and look at America the same way. The easiest way to say is New Jersey, which is just across the river, that's like hillbillies and Hicks.
Starting point is 01:33:42 They don't understand anything until they get to Los Angeles. They don't get it, and they put everything in one bucket. They don't get it, we get it, and the people in Los Angeles get it. The people on the coasts, everybody else is disposable.
Starting point is 01:34:02 They don't add anything to our lives. What? We can do whatever we want here. we have everything we want here. What else matters? I mean, God forbid we do anything to London or Paris, except get rid of some of the riffraff, because those are places we like to go to vacation at.
Starting point is 01:34:22 This poll is absolutely stunning to me. So now take what you know again. Let me just tell you again that they approve of Joe Biden by about 83%. 83% are getting better in their finances. They support by 77 and 89% of the super elites support the strict rationing of meat, gas and electricity. 81 would ban the use of gas powered cars. 70% would prevent Americans from engaging in non-essential air travel.
Starting point is 01:35:06 and 55% believe the government affords America's too much freedom. With that in mind, now let me tell you about Davos. Davos is putting together an exclusion list, a list that they're creating to demonize sources of sharing so-called disinformation. Now, what exactly is disinformation? Well, disinformation is real. It is the intent of the author to lie to the group of people to get them to believe something that isn't true. That's disinformation.
Starting point is 01:35:51 It's intentional. Misinformation is not intentional. But now they have exclusion lists to demonetize, which means getting rid of all advertising, even banking access. anybody who is sharing so-called disinformation. The president and CEO of intern news, an international nonprofit that provides support to independent media outlets in more than 100 countries addressing how to prevent the spread
Starting point is 01:36:25 of what they consider inaccurate information. They talked and did a talk at the Davos conference panel, and the panel was called Defending Truth. global trust in institutions is eroding reflected in how 40% of people consistently trust news, empowering internet users with media information literacy, advancing information integrity, and enhancing transparency. It's vital for addressing the spread of false information. So the question was, what actions do stakeholders need to take to preserve a healthy trust? ecosystem. Now, remember, we're not talking shareholders anymore because that's you. We're talking
Starting point is 01:37:13 stakeholders. Those are the elected officials, the CEO of companies, the boards of directors, and the politicians, the global elite. Oh, I forgot. Also, the university systems. Those are the stakeholders. You don't have a vote. Your vote is when you pick one of these politicians. That's your voice. Now, they said the most effective way to keep people from being exposed to so-called inaccurate information is to develop a list or guides for advertisers that tell them where to and where not to spend. Now, this is where it gets interesting. Media Matters used to do this and all of these lefty organizations. They do it because they threaten boycotts.
Starting point is 01:38:06 They say, oh, if you're not with us, then you're against us. If you're with them, then you're our enemy. If you decide that their audience is worth your time and money, we know that those people are all deplorables. We know who they are, the unwashed masses. So if you want those people as customers, then we're against you. Now they are going to the. global elites and the and the governments and they are now saying to these stakeholders that you don't want to advertise there the governments are giving
Starting point is 01:38:49 people permission to be able to debank so they put pressure on and say you know this is person spending a lot of times spend is saying things that just aren't true like I don't know the jabs may have not been the best of ideas you can't bank with those. And if they go to the advertisers and say, you got to drop your commercials from that show, they'll be debanked if they don't. You see how this blackmail works? Now listen to this. Disinformation makes money and we need to follow that money. And we need to work with in particular the global advertising community. Those dollars are going to pretty bad content. So you can work really hard on exclusion lists or inclusion list, but just focus on their ad dollars going to good news and information, the accurate and relevant news and information.
Starting point is 01:39:46 I'm going to continue this and show you what is coming in just a second first. Let me pause for just a moment and tell you about preborn. I was speaking at the preborn fundraiser. This is the first fundraising dinner they've ever done. done. I was honored to be asked to speak there. They have their job cut out for them. But the thing I really like about preborn is they are saving not just the babies that are being sacrificed on the altar of God only knows, child sacrifice. But they're also saving the moms. One woman was telling a story about how she was working in a clinic and a woman came in.
Starting point is 01:40:36 She said, I've already had four abortions. I know I'm going to hell. So I'm just going to have another one. And the nurse looked at her and said, honey, you're not going to hell. I've had abortions myself. And I've turned my life over. And I know where I'm going. And you can too.
Starting point is 01:40:55 This woman not only saved the baby, but she then went and saved. herself by asking for forgiveness and she's become a great, great, faithful Christian. That's what these people do. They're not just saving one life or one soul. They're saving both the mom and the baby and reconciling them with truth. So they can be healthy and productive and they don't just abandon it. Okay, good. You didn't get the abortion.
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Starting point is 01:42:19 They train journalists and digital rights activists. They tackle disinformation and offer business expertise to help media outlets become financially sustainable. Look at the incentives. The organization aims to eliminate disinformation designed to manipulate elections, distort public debate, incite violence, or undermine public health. All of these things are good and noble causes. We just don't agree on what's true or not, what the public health is.
Starting point is 01:42:52 I think by pointing out, hey, you know, the testing of that jab? It's not what they say it is. Hey, I think it actually came from a lab that we helped fund in China. I believe that's the truth asking questions only leads you closer to the truth. They think that's disinformation. This is a, they say, a national and global security threat this year because of the elections. You need to shore up your credibility with everybody you know. You need to get rid of all of the things in your life that you might have done wrong or
Starting point is 01:43:35 doing wrong get them out into the open clean them all up make amends where you can so you don't have anything to fear then you need to start speaking out but you need to be well researched you're smart enough to figure things out you don't immediately sign on to things that you're like oh my gosh here's the silver bullet and it's exactly the answer i was looking for be cautious of those things do extra research. You know, the things I tell you, I always, I really want to be wrong. I really want to be wrong on these things. I hope that I am. But one thing that disinformation, the real purveyors of disinformation do, will say, don't ask any questions. You can't ask that question. You just accept this. You should ask questions of not only people you agree with, but people you disagree with.
Starting point is 01:44:39 You should ask questions to the deepest questions of yourself. Because if you stop asking and talking to people who differ with you, then you grow arrogant. And you become just like those people. You become so arrogant. I have nothing to learn from you. You're just a moron. You're beneath you. me did you go to Harvard I did no I didn't and that's why I'm still asking questions you should always ask questions and people who tell you not to just to trust them run from them and don't become like them I have another question you know it's really interesting there's a medical society that's fighting this too we'll talk about that coming up in just a second first let me tell you about the
Starting point is 01:45:37 Berna launcher. Burna is this great. I mean, it looks like a gun. They call it a launcher because it's not technically a gun. But it launches kinetic rounds that at 60 feet, man, it will hurt. But also you put a couple of kinetic rounds in it. And then the third round is tear gas, not pepper spray, tear gas. And it incapacitates anybody who's a potential attacker or anything else, a bad guy.
Starting point is 01:46:07 for about 40 minutes. They're not going anywhere for 40 minutes. Now, you can have this for self-defense. There are no background checks required. There are no permits. It's legal in all 50 states. It can be used by anybody over 18, and it is a powerful, powerful deterrent.
Starting point is 01:46:27 It doesn't replace a gun, but it makes it a lot easier to pull that launcher and stop the bad guys without killing them. Burna.com slash Glenn, B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Glenn. Go there now. Tomorrow I want to get into the APA, the American Psychological Association. Why is it they have an entire page to misinformation, dedicated to misinformation, and how the psychiatrists and psychologists can handle disinformation and make sure they're stopping it in their own community?
Starting point is 01:47:22 Are you really? Really? See, this is the problem. When people make mistakes, they need to admit to it. They just need to admit to it. It would do Donald Trump a great service if he said, you know what? I believed Fauci. Shouldn't have. Shouldn't have. I went against my better instincts. My instincts are always wrong. I said it would be over by Easter and I listened and was duped and that's bad. Okay. All right. just say it. You know, sometimes I don't listen to my instincts and I should. That would go a long, long way for a lot of people because arrogance is what is killing us. Tomorrow we're going to talk a little bit about the medical miss and disinformation on the program also as we deal with the vote tomorrow in New Hampshire. We have Stu here who's going to give us an update on how things are standing right now in New Hampshire. Hampshire. Yeah, I mean, there's two worlds, basically. We covered this on the state of the race podcast, which is a free bonus pod we have on the Studez America feed. I encourage you to subscribe to that. But basically, if you're looking at New Hampshire, we have two separating worlds. Okay. You have the consensus polling world, which shows Donald Trump with a relatively comfortable lead. It is low double digits, if you want to summarize it. There's one poll. that's doing a tracking poll, releasing regular results, the Suffolk poll, which has Trump up by 19 points.
Starting point is 01:48:58 You have a lot of tens and 12s and 14s in that general vicinity. And most polling agrees with that view where Donald Trump has a lead. It's a competitive state. Like it wouldn't be completely stunning to see this thing be close. But Trump has a relatively comfortable lead in New Hampshire. The other world, if you want to, if you're a Haley supporter, I know you mentioned an anonymous Haley supporter that works in this building, earlier on the program. If you happen to be that person who is so anonymous,
Starting point is 01:49:27 he continually wears Nikki Haley T-shirts to work. If you're that person, what you want to adopt as the actual world is the world from the American Research Group. This is one set of pollsters, one pollster who has been doing a set of polls in different states and has focused on New Hampshire regularly over the past month or so. They have continually polled this race as being very, very close.
Starting point is 01:49:51 had it at a four-point race in the end of December and actually had a poll earlier this month that had it at a 40 to 40 tie in New Hampshire. Their latest poll came out just yesterday and has Trump at 46 and Haley at 44. Again, over and over again, they've seen this poll as this state is much, much closer than everybody else has seen it.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Do you know anything about them or their methodology? They're a mid-level pollster as far as the, you know, the people who rank these pollsters for quality. They're in the middle of the pack. I think it was a C plus from 538. So not necessarily super Republican, not necessarily seen as a hardcore partisan polling group. We've seen some of these people in the past
Starting point is 01:50:35 that always have good results for one side or the other. But for whatever reason, they're seeing New Hampshire as completely different. My belief is that they are not correct in that analysis and that in actuality Trump has a significant lead in the polls there. and probably will wind up winning, especially with, you know, DeSantis dropping out in this, in the American Research Group poll, for example, DeSantis had 6% of the vote, but this is before he drops
Starting point is 01:51:03 out. Obviously, most of those votes will not go to DeSantis now. And my guess is most of them go to Donald Trump. He endorsed Donald Trump on his way out. He's, his, you know, his filations and his group of voters are much more aligned with Donald Trump than Nikki Haley. So that could hurt her a little bit more. If she's already, she's already in a lot of trouble there. If she can finish, if she can be surprisingly close in New Hampshire, does she have a path to South Carolina? I think she would argue the answer to that is yes. But again, you know, in this being her home state, she is showing up there. She's been around mid-20s in polling in South Carolina, but that's way behind Donald Trump. The thing that I hear about South Carolina is, quote, we really like
Starting point is 01:51:47 Nikki Haley, but we love Donald Trump. That's the difference. She's going to do well. It's her own state. And people generally like her, but they love Donald Trump. So what is, remember the polling group that was the one that really got it right in 2016. They came back, have a totally different methodology. Trafalgar. Trafalgar. What are they saying about this? Truffalgar has not had a poll of New Hampshire since early December. Their last poll had Trump up big 45 to 18, Chris Christie at 14, DeSantis 11, Ramoswami, 10. Obviously, so much has changed.
Starting point is 01:52:26 It's hard to really take much out of that. It was December 9th to 11th. Did they have? What was the last they took in Iowa and have they seen South Carolina yet? It's a good question. I don't know off the top of my head. I can see if I can dig that up here quickly for you. Let's have it for tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:52:42 Maybe we can get the head of Trafal. Trafalgar on tomorrow. Trefalgar did do a poll late and lined up with pretty much everybody else. They had Trump 52, DeSantis 19, Haley 19. Again, the polling was pretty good in Iowa. A lot of people, again, everyone likes to complain about the polls, but they were actually pretty accurate in Iowa and pretty much nailed the result. Now, the average polling result had Haley a little bit ahead of DeSantis and that wound up
Starting point is 01:53:09 flipping by a couple of points, but generally speaking, they were right in the ballpark on Iowa. It's all within the margin of error. Yeah, totally. You're that close. I mean, you can flip them within the margin of error. Yep. And nothing from Trafalgar on South Carolina. Again, I don't know. You know, remember one thing about South Carolina is I believe a full month after New Hampshire, which is tomorrow, by the way. So you have a month of a gap there. The polling is not going to be all that viable. But it is the South Carolina polls overall have shown. shown a substantial lead for Donald Trump, but a pretty strong, a decent showing for New Hampshire
Starting point is 01:53:50 for Haley, 60% for Trump, 25% for Haley. Again, she could probably continue and pull that type of split off in all of these states going forward, where the anti-Trump vote would all just vote for Haley. And that would get her some delegates. She would have some voice if she wanted to continue that. And I'm sure that's going to be at some point tempting, considering all of Trump's legal issues. One other thing from this New Hampshire poll,
Starting point is 01:54:16 which I found interesting, Glenn, this is one that came out today from Washington Post and Monmouth, had Donald Trump out in front significantly showing pretty consistently, consistent results with other polling there. I think maybe 14 or 16 points he was up. But it goes back to the fundamental question
Starting point is 01:54:35 of this campaign that no other candidate was able to answer. And you have a situation once again, where a defining question of this primary is, do you believe 2020 was stolen? Or do you believe 2020 was a normal election in some way, fair and square election? They asked this question again in this primary. And it shows, I think, part of the weakness in the struggles Ron DeSantis had here, which is DeSantis is trying to go for some of these voters who are also like Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:55:06 And the question is, do you think it was a fraud or do you think it was fair and square? Well, about two thirds. Hang on just a second. Give me the results of this. Because you've had a theory on this for a while, and I think it's worth exploring, but I don't want to cheat you on time. So let me take a quick break. Relief Factor. Terry wrote in about his experience with Relief Factor. He says, I struggled with pain for quite a while from my lower back up, down my legs. I heard about Relief Factor, decided to give it a try.
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Starting point is 01:57:06 From binge all episodes exclusively on Paramount Plus. This is the Glenn Beck program. Tomorrow is the New Hampshire primary, and then a month after that, we will go to South Carolina and hear the voices of the people in South Carolina. Stu's been talking about some numbers that he's been seeing in polls that he thinks are
Starting point is 01:57:38 are not telling the whole story or the people interpreting them are not telling the whole story, Stu? Yeah, I mean, this is just sort of a theory. As Ron DeSantis drops out, you think about how he could have done better, right? Like the question, and we talked about this at hour one, was there any path to really winning in this environment with Trump being indicted. And I think Trump, Trump's indictment really accelerated this. You can see it straight out in the polls where he's pretty competitive until about March. And then when this endorsement happens, or these indictments happen, almost an endorsement,
Starting point is 01:58:12 a reverse endorsement from the media. You know, DeSantis falls and Trump rises is pretty clear right around that time. But one of the things that I think fundamentally sets this up is really difficult for anyone challenging Donald Trump is the idea that conservatives generally speaking want some sort of justice. They want, they value justice as one of the primary things. And if they believe that this 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump and given to Joe Biden through fraud, they are much more likely to vote for Donald Trump. And so the question kind of boils down to these lines. Now, this is in a new poll out in New Hampshire from Washington Post and Monmouth. And in this, in New Hampshire, about 51% of the voters that are voting in this primary think 2020 was decided by fraud.
Starting point is 01:58:56 About 42% said it was fair and square. Now, that's out of line with other states. Iowa was about 66 to 30 on that question. More people believed it was fraud. But what's interesting is what's behind that number. If you believe fraud was the cause here, 82% of those voters go to Donald Trump. And 8% go to Ronda Santas. Only 6% go to Nikki Haley.
Starting point is 01:59:19 But you see how like Ron DeSantis, where is he going to get these voters from? He has to get them from the same pool that believe that the election was stolen. He loses that to Trump 82 to 8. Now, if you go with the people that believe the election was decided fair and square, Nikki Haley wins that by a large margin. What's fascinating about it, though, is Ron DeSantis doesn't even finish second in that question. Nikki Haley, 71%, Donald Trump, 14%, Ronda Santis, 6%.
Starting point is 01:59:52 So, taking out what you believe actually happened here, just go straight political strategy. Throw out what's true and what's not. None of these politicians care about that anyway. If you wanted to beat Donald Trump in the Republican primary, the only way to do it was to convince people that 2020 was not stolen. There really isn't a path for you to beat Donald Trump. Trump, if the electorate believes that the election was stolen, they will look at this and say,
Starting point is 02:00:22 wait a minute, this is unfair. This opportunity was taken from him, and therefore he deserves another chance at it. It's his election. He should be president right now. Whether you believe that or not isn't the point. The way that Republicans generally handled this was to either completely agree with Donald Trump and say, yes, it was stolen, or the sort of soft agreement you saw from a lot of these candidates. Well, look, you know, there are a lot of things that were shady about this election and
Starting point is 02:00:51 lots of problems. And I don't know. You know, who knows what happened. And just strategically, that allowed the population of the voters to say, well, look, you know, there's not much disagreement on this, right? It's either stolen or there's a lot of shenanigans, but we don't know if it was exactly stolen. Probably the only way to unseat Donald Trump in this primary was an early attack on that number and try to convince people, which I think would be a real long shot and very difficult to do, but to convince people that actually know
Starting point is 02:01:20 this wasn't stolen, Donald Trump just lost. And if that could somehow have worked, you have a chance at least to beat him. But the question is, was that even possible? My argument would probably be it wasn't possible. But if you wanted to make that happen, you had to do it early and consistently, and Republicans never seem to have
Starting point is 02:01:40 any appetite for that. See, I don't think that I don't think I would vote for somebody who said no it was all on the up and up and I don't and I'm not one that believes that Donald Trump lost absolutely positively was stolen from him I am in the middle I don't know and what bothers me is that nobody seems to want to know the answer to that question we should be doing everything we can as a nation to secure our our our our vote and to make sure that it's all on the up and up. And I'm not sure. I think there were things that happened that were very, very bad. Was it enough to give it to Donald or to give it to
Starting point is 02:02:25 Joe Biden? I don't know because we didn't ever have, I think, an honest, thorough accounting of everything. So I don't like the absolute position of either side. But what is interesting is what you said about loyalty. Loyalty is very important. This is Jonathan Haidt stuff. Loyalty is very, very important to conservatives. They value loyalty almost above almost everything else. And when you look at loyalty and you're giving Donald Trump a second try because he's been loyal
Starting point is 02:03:10 to you and you think he's been. wrong, the sense of justice and loyalty are absolutely unbeatable for Republicans. Those are the two strongest things that go on. And the Democrats don't have that. And that's why you didn't see Al Gore, them insisting that Al Gore run again in 2004. He was just done because the loyalty and the search for. the justice for the underdog doesn't root itself in the same way as it does with conservatives. Yeah, Hillary Clinton as well in 2016. They all believe that one was stolen or it was unjust and they didn't demand for her to run in 2020.
Starting point is 02:03:58 Yeah, no, I think what you're saying is true, Glenn, where, you know, my only point on this analysis is just from a strategic standpoint, you put yourself in a position where you can't win. I don't know that it would have worked by any means. have been uphill, but you can't win in this circumstance. It's like, you know, you're a college team, you're going up against the Kansas City Chiefs, and we're arguing about, well, you should have called more run plays. It's like, well, maybe that would have helped with the DeSantis campaign, but the fundamentals of this were really difficult from the beginning, and I don't think it was overcomeable or able to be overcome in the way that it turned out.

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