The Glenn Beck Program - PRAISE GOD: Roe v. Wade Overturned | Guests: Mollie Hemingway & Josh Hammer | 6/24/22

Episode Date: June 24, 2022

Glenn reviews the meltdown of Twitter’s blue checkmarks in response to SCOTUS striking down New York’s concealed carry law. The Federalist’s Mollie Hemingway joins to share her latest article, �...��Yes, Biden Is Hiding His Plan to Rig the 2022 Midterm Elections.” Groundbreaking news from the Supreme Court: Roe v. Wade has officially been overturned. Glenn and Stu reel, shocked, at the historic overturn of Roe v. Wade. Two things trended on Twitter after the SCOTUS decision on Roe v. Wade: “Praise God” and “Night of Rage.” Opinion editor for Newsweek Josh Hammer joins to dissect the monumental overturn of Roe v. Wade. Glenn praises God as he revels in the aftermath of Roe v. Wade coming to an end. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:04:50 else to say they were so right on target now that's a that's a joke I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it actually target like, you know, Sarah Palin meant it. Alicia Sultan or Asheya or whatever her name is. She says, God forbid. Listen, you're listening right now to a guy who's in the Radio Hall of Fame. I am so good at what I do. I don't even have to know how to pronounce names, okay?
Starting point is 00:05:19 I don't have to. They were like, they were like, this guy is like a radio god. Yeah, but have you heard it? him yet no we haven't but put him in the Hall of Fame okay so anyway what's her face says god forbid someone you love gets killed by gun violence I second that second amendment fetishizing will never bring them back or make that loss easier to bear yeah I agree with that I mean hang on let me just take the ball out of my mouth here because I have this fetish thing with who the second amendment it is hot too many people believe
Starting point is 00:05:54 unfettered access to guns will never hurt someone they love until it happens. Oh, okay. I don't know what your point is really here. Mary Ann Williamson says, home, people will die because of this. And to be very clear, now listen to this argument, to be very clear, they're not doing this to protect the Second Amendment. They're doing it to protect the primacy of, property rights.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Well, gosh, that's a good reason to do it too, I guess. Huh. I didn't even think of the property right part, but thanks for pointing that out, Mary Ann. Neil Katyal says, it's going to be very weird if Supreme Court ends a constitutional right to obtain an abortion next week, saying it should be left to the states to decide, right after it imposed a constitutional right to conceal and carry firearms, saying it cannot be left to the states to decide. Neil, here's what you're missing, dude. One is actually
Starting point is 00:07:03 in the Constitution. It's called the Second Amendment. That tells the federal government and the states exactly what they can and cannot do. What government cannot do. There is no right to abortion. Show it to me. Show it to me. When you can show it to me, I will change my argument. That, when it's not in the... I'll talk slowly for you, Neil. When it's not in the Constitution, then there's this part of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. It's...
Starting point is 00:07:42 Just look for the number 10. Okay? And that says anything that's not specifically in the Constitution, that goes then to the states. Yeah, look at you. You're going to read some day, Neil. Jill Flippoffick says the kind of people who desperately want to carry concealed weapons in public. It's based on a generalized interest in self-defense are precisely the kind of paranoid, insecure, violence fetishizing people who should not be able to carry a concealed weapon in public.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Okay, so let me get this right. if you want to carry one, you're the kind that shouldn't carry one. So in other words, when Martin, that's is right. Jill, my gosh, my whole world is changing. Thank you for this. Now I understand when Martin Luther King went in
Starting point is 00:08:40 and said to the state officials, hey, I need to have a concealed carry permit. He's exactly the kind of guy you Democrats didn't want to carry a gun. yes chill thank you for that enlightenment
Starting point is 00:08:58 David Hogg says you're entitled to your opinion but not your own facts and like your own facts you aren't entitled to your own history that is exactly what the Supreme Court decision is it's a reversal of 200 plus years of jurisprudence
Starting point is 00:09:13 that will get Americans killed David David have you read a book have you come on have you read a book Do you know anything at all about? Name three founders.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Can you do it? I mean, right now, think, go. Can't do it, David. 200 years, our int—the only times, the only times in our history, and you wouldn't know this because you bury all the left, buries the democratic history. The only time that we have any kind of history where we're taking guns away from people is when the government is afraid of those people, when the government gets really, really racist.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Okay, that's why the Indians, yeah, that's why they're living on reservations now because we took away their guns. Yeah, yeah. That's why after the Civil War and before the Civil War, slaves could not have guns. Why? because they might defend themselves.
Starting point is 00:10:25 They always there were. And then, after they were freed, oh my gosh, the Democrats freaked out. Those freed slaves will have a way to protect themselves. And they got it done through all kinds of laws, kind of like what you're doing now. Thank you, David, for writing in, Your Special. March for Our Lives, Blue Check Marks, said yesterday. The court's decision is dangerous and deadly.
Starting point is 00:10:59 The unfairly nominated blatantly partisan justices but the Second Amendment over our lives. No, I, may I quote the Princess Pride? I do not think those words mean what you think they mean. Okay. Second Amendment is there to protect our lives, to protect our property, and to protect our freedom. I just want to throw that one out. The blood
Starting point is 00:11:28 of American people who die from needless gun violence will be on their corrupt hands. Okay. Wahadjit Ali said, let's have a bunch of black, brown, and Muslim folks carry large guns in predominantly white neighborhoods. I know
Starting point is 00:11:47 the Second Amendment advocates will say that's great and encourage it because American history proves otherwise. We might get gun control, but we'd also get a lot of chalk outlines. Ha ha, ha, ha, Mr. O'Lee, you are so funny. See, what you fail to recognize is that all of the people that you say are racist aren't, aren't racist. There are racists in this country. A lot of them seem to come from the left. You know, like the socialist clan members or the socialist Nazi members.
Starting point is 00:12:26 You see what they both have in common there? Yeah, Democratic Party. Anyway, Mr. Ali, if someone wants to carry a gun and they're a Muslim, I have absolutely no problem. You're black, you're brown, you're white, you're pink, your polka dot. You have COVID and you're not wearing a mask or you don't have COVID and you're wearing 20 masks and you want to carry a gun. I'm totally fine with that. Now, If you get a bunch of people, and again, I don't care what color they are, marching down my neighborhood with large guns, yeah, I am going to call the police because that's unusual. What are you doing? We're just marching with our guns.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Why in my neighborhood at night? None of your business. This cabin all living around here? Okay. See, there's a difference. There's a difference. right wingers can freak out about nullification or packing or whatever no one cares you broke all the norms of decency democracy and fairness oh my gosh oh wait wait this is from david adkins he's got a great solution end of the day california new york are not going to let wyoming and idaho tell us how we have to live in a mad max gun climate hell oh my gosh David, let's break some bread, baby.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Let's come together. Yeah, all right. Let me do my best Marianne Williamson. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because we can come together. What you just said is the point of the 10th Amendment. California and New York, I don't want to live like them. You don't want to live like us.
Starting point is 00:14:19 So let's not. Let's not. However, there are 10 big things, and I've heard they've added to these, but there are 10 big things that no government in the United States of America can do. Now, you want to change that? Let's change it. Because what's so crazy is there's this thing called the amendment process. You want to change the Constitution. You don't, whatever, break all norms of decency, democracy and democracy.
Starting point is 00:14:52 fairness. You don't break those. You want to change those amendments. You can do it. All you have to do is go through the amendment process. And then, you know, if you say, everybody's got to have a pig on their lap, you get the states to vote for that, put it in the amendment, you have it. Now, there will probably be another amendment that comes later that says, hey, the pig in the lap thing was really, really stupid. And I think America lost its mind temporarily. So we're going to scratch that one out. From here on out, no more absolute must have a pig on your lap kind of laws. Okay?
Starting point is 00:15:32 But both of those would be done through the amendment process. That would be doing it the decent way, the fair way, and the democratic way. But David, you are cute. When you think you're cute. Tristan Schnell writes in When American service members die overseas Their caskets are brought to Dover Air Force Base To be displayed and mourned
Starting point is 00:16:01 Now they're not They're not displayed I don't know if you've noticed this But we try not to display the dead But when Americans die because of gun violence Their caskets should be brought to the steps Of the Supreme Court So the justices can
Starting point is 00:16:20 see what they've done. Tristan, I like that. Why don't we take every baby that's been aborted and put them in a bucket? I mean, we're going to need a big bucket because there's millions of those and let's dump them on the front steps of the Supreme Court so they can see what they've done. Wow. I got to thank all the blue check marks because you've really turned. me around and I mean who are 20 minutes into the show and my hang on my little list says oh crap it says I have to continue for another two and a half hours oh geez okay well we're just getting started so we'll learn even more I'm sure as the time goes on uh Molly Molly Hemingway is joining us here in just a few minutes also a guy who says that I am very
Starting point is 00:17:22 wrong. And he is the county prosecutor in a very, very red state. And he certainly looks like a progressive prosecutor to me, but he says, I don't understand. It's about politics. And so I wanted to give him some time to be able to argue his case. That's coming up. We're also going to be watching the Supreme Court. It could come out today, the big one. But, But we'll have to wait and see, shall we? All this and more coming up. First, our sponsor, This Half Hour is the Tuttle Twins book.
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Starting point is 00:19:46 Hello, Stu. Welcome to the program. Glenn, yeah, you're fired up today. I like it. You're bringing it today. Why, I was just learning so much. I was just learning so much. I was looking at the ruling.
Starting point is 00:19:59 yesterday, and you mentioned the racism of many of the laws that were applied on guys from back in the day. It's interesting that Clarence Thomas seemed to notice that himself that the left was bringing up essentially rules that were passed and applied only to black people. This is part,
Starting point is 00:20:15 this is from the actual decision. Southern prohibitions on concealed carry were not always applied equally, even when under federal scrutiny. One lieutenant posted in St. Augustine, Florida, remarked how local enforcement of concealed carry laws discriminated against blacks. Quote, To sentence a negro to several dollars fine for were carrying a revolver concealed upon his person is in accordance with an ordinance of the town.
Starting point is 00:20:39 But still, the question naturally arises in my mind, why is this poor fellow fine for an offense which is committed hourly by every other white man I meet in the streets? It seemed like Thomas took that one personally. Yeah. I think I would do. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird how Uncle Tom is standing up for black people. It's really, really strange. Now, I'm trying to get my arms around this. So we know that black neighborhoods, Chicago, etc., are the really just the festering boil of, you know, killers on the streets with guns. I'm guessing. Now, I don't know this for a fact. And I'm not a dog. Oh, I am a. doctor. So yeah, I know this for a fact. The people on the streets that are shooting each other, generally speaking, not legally purchased guns. I know, I know, crazy, right? Not legally purchased
Starting point is 00:21:38 guns. Hmm. So you got that going for you, and you know what would solve a lot of this, I think? black moms and black grandmas especially that come out in the front porch with a shotgun and just say, I think you're going to leave my family alone. I think you're going to back up right now. Get off my lawn. I think so.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I think so. Last thing we need is another white guy. Get off my lawn. But a black mom? I'd love to see her. I'd love to see her with a nice, A.K. walking out onto the lawn and saying, I think you boys are done with my boys now. Okay? Bye-bye. Maybe that's just me. Maybe that's just me. And of course, I'm racist. So why would I want that?
Starting point is 00:22:32 Gosh, that's weird. I guess it's just my gun fetish. Oh, man, sometimes I dress up in a leather clown suit and just stare at my guns. Oh my gosh, it is so erotic. Oh, thank you so much, lefties, for pointing that out. It's not like I actually believe, I don't know, in the Constitution. All right, back with more. We have a common enemy, you and I. This enemy wants to kill us. Yeah, it's the sun.
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Starting point is 00:24:10 Rules and restrictions may apply. Go there now. Blines.com. blazs tv.com slash glenn the promo code is glenn to save ten bucks off your subscription to blaze tv i don't know a single american personally i don't know a single american that actually is not involved deeply in washington dc that doesn't want free and fair elections that doesn't want every ballot to be counted um and wants to make sure uh that there is no monkey business going on and that we can count on our elections. Every American, I don't care who you voted for,
Starting point is 00:24:59 I think wants that. But I don't think anybody in Washington really wants that, especially the Democrats. They are already setting up that the election is going to be stolen and you can't trust it. And now the problems with the voting machines. They're doing the same thing they always do. But they're doing something else. Remember, the key to understanding this administration is the administration. He is a administrator. That's it. All of the agencies are being pushed to the limit to take away as many rights from you as possible and make the system work in a completely different way than constitutionally. Molly Hemingway has written a great article. It came out yesterday. Biden is hiding his plan to rig the 2022 midterm elections. Molly is joining us now.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Hello, Molly. Hello. It's great to be here with you. Yeah, it's great to have you on. So, this is, they're doing this in every agency, and this one you've tried to look into, and they're hiding everything that they're doing. Can you take us from the beginning and then show us what they're doing? Sure. So in March of 2021, just a few weeks after President Biden took office, he issued an executive order saying that all 600 federal agencies had to come up with a plan to expand voting. Now, people were immediately alarmed because the Constitution does not give the executive branch authority over our election system. That's reserved for the states. There's a very tiny role for Congress. And so the executive branch has not been given that authority.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And then people are also worried because expanding. voting is an inherently political act. You know, it's mobilizing voters is a political act. And so the bureaucracy should not be involved with it. So people wanted to know, well, what are these plans going to be? Everyone had 200 days to turn in a plan to Susan Rice, by the way, you know, one of the most political people out there for approval. And people started asking what the plans were. And they have been steadfastly refusing to return those plans ever since. then. Okay, so I want to make sure people understand.
Starting point is 00:27:20 That is 600 federal agencies. 600 had 200 days to show how they were going to expand citizens' opportunities to register to vote and obtain information about participate in the electoral process. They had until March 7, 2021. You can't find anything about what anyone of those 600 agencies. turned in. And congressmen have been asking for it. You've had the ranking member of every committee in the house asking for the information. You've had them expressing their concerns, congressional committees, good government groups, outside citizens are doing FOIA requests and they just can't get anything. And it seems
Starting point is 00:28:07 to be that what they're doing is trying to slow walk it until well after the election. In one case, they said they would respond to the FOIA by May of 2024. And so, So it is really difficult to get information, which makes it difficult to even know what's going on. And I just want to be clear, these are inherently political acts, like choosing who you reach out to and to mobilize get out the vote operations. That's what political parties do. And it's particularly dangerous because we're talking about federal agencies that hand out benefits. And so if people are told, hey, we could really use you voting, Mr. Person who's getting this federal benefit, you can see. see why that would be viewed as improper and unethical compulsion regarding voting, which is
Starting point is 00:28:53 something that is very dangerous and which we have previously had strict laws again. So tell me what's happening with the Centers for Medicare or Medicaid, with their voter turnout, the Department of Labor, what are they doing, Department of Education? Right. So each of them are choosing to respond to this executive order in different ways. And we are getting these indications that they're complying with this executive order, even if they're refusing to say what exactly they're doing. But you're seeing these public-facing things where they'll say that they're turning their health centers into vote places. You know, they're focusing their efforts that should be focused on job training, you know, during a labor crisis on get-out-the-vote operations at Department of Education centers.
Starting point is 00:29:45 or the federal work study program, which is part of the Department of Education, had previously said, of course, you can't use federal work study monies to engage in electioneering or election activity. And now they're saying you can use these monies to help run, get out the vote operations. And I just think it's important to remember the context here, too, is that we just had this election in 2020 where we had Mark Zuckerberg finance the widespread takeover of government election offices with partisan, you know, left-leaning activists, and they ran get-out-the-vote operations in the blue areas of swing states. So the context here is really troubling, too, because we just saw in 2020 how this type of
Starting point is 00:30:33 operation can have severely partisan repercussions and why people should be on guard if they want to trust their elections and if they want to have confidence in their elections. Molly, what do we do? We have no press that will do it. The congressman not getting responded to. The Justice Department is absolutely corrupt. What do we do? So I do think that raising an outcry over the refusal to find out information is key.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And there are lawsuits that are ongoing. Two groups have sued to get the information. These agencies are clearly in violation of federal law. And so hopefully we would have enough pressure that those lawsuits can be responded to as soon as possible so that the public can know what's going on. And people should not despair. I mean, fighting over election administration is something that has been going on in this country for centuries. And despair is not an appropriate response because, you know, you had even a few decades ago, the Democrat Party had disenfranchised like an entire race of people in the South. And people didn't despair.
Starting point is 00:31:43 they just fought to make sure that the voting system was fair. And so I think the most important thing people can do is get involved at the local level. Find out what's going on in how elections are administered in your state and make sure that they're being done properly and that there are no shenanigans going on. And you're not going to be able to know that unless you're deeply involved in the process. So start now. We have widespread mail-in balloting and, you know, an election season. So it's not just election day, which is frankly when Republicans,
Starting point is 00:32:13 go vote. It's those two months prior or even many, you know, years prior where they're setting up the system by which everyone else is voting or by which the system is so insecure that it can be exploited. And you really have to just find out what the rules are in your area, find out what's going on and get involved, do election observation, research, and everybody should do that if they care about the republic. Because if we don't have elections we can trust, you know, you don't really have a country. But don't, you know, It's not the end of the world. It just requires people to get involved and pay attention. So, Molly, it's really interesting to me because I look at the things that they do, and I'm like, who has time for this? But you have time if you think that you should be in charge of everything and everybody. That is their full-time job to figure out ways to control everything. The conservatives, we have just been, you know, asleep at the switch. we're like, no, everybody thinks like this.
Starting point is 00:33:12 No, they don't. No, they don't. There's probably 15% of very, very active Americans that are intent on taking the Republic and destroying it. We just have to, we just have to wake up and start realizing it's really our fault that this is happening because we've just been expecting somebody else to take care of it for us. So I wrote a book on the 2020 election called Reg, How the Media,
Starting point is 00:33:40 tech and Democrats seized our election. And I go through all sorts of things, including this Mark Zuckerberg operation. That was a $450 million operation. It was more than anyone had ever conceived of spending on something to take over the government administration of elections. But that is what I worry about. The federal government, you know, they spend $450 million in a blink of an eye. They have so much money to throw at this that it is really worrisome. You know, and the Constitution does not authorized it. Congress has not authorized it, and yet they're still doing it. But you're absolutely right that a lot of people have just been asleep and not thinking about election integrity for decades. But in my book, I actually tell the story about how there was this court
Starting point is 00:34:26 order that kept Republicans from doing any election day oversight for nearly 40 years. I couldn't believe it when I first learned about it, but in the early 70s, a judge in New Jersey put them under a consent decree where they couldn't get involved in any litigation, election day litigation. And for nearly 40 years, they were kept under this. It took the judge dying and being replaced by an Obama appointed judge who said, this is ridiculous, like, let the Republicans out. Wow. And it was so sensitive that during the 2016 election, Sean Spicer was on the wrong floor
Starting point is 00:35:01 of Trump Tower, and they almost kept them under the consent decree for another few years. Like because he was, you know, he was supposed to be on floor four instead of floor five. And that's how sensitive it was. And it kept Republicans from really focusing on this for a very long time. But they're kind of liberated now. And so they are doing much more to do Election Day oversight. And there are many more resources in play now. Real quick, any thoughts on Supreme Court and what's coming here again tomorrow, today in just a few minutes?
Starting point is 00:35:31 Well, I think everyone's, but there are so many important decisions. and yesterday's decision was a huge victory for the Constitution. And it really does speak to the importance of having solid originalist judges or justices on the court. Everyone's, of course, anxious for the Dobbs decision, the abortion-related decision. And a lot of people thought it should have been out earlier because of these death threats that the justices are facing. So hopefully it will, you know, it'll come out this week or next week. But it's been, I think, an overall pretty good term for people who care about the Constitution. Yeah, I think it's been very good.
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Starting point is 00:38:18 What are we looking at here, Stu? Hold on one second. You take your seat. You talk about Supreme Court preview. Okay, so we have... Wait, wait, wait. Read the last one. It says you don't read on air.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Oh, yeah, you don't... So the Supreme Court is going to release a few more opinions today. We were kind of hoping we'd get all of them by today, which would have broken down to six and seven between the two days. But we only got four yesterday. So the idea that we're going to get nine today is extremely unlikely. we could get Dobbs today, we don't know, but there are nine left. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Could happen. Could happen. Yeah, it's not going to, there, that'll be the last one that they announced, I think. That is what I would expect. And we don't, when we pass, isn't, where does Alito fall in this? In the order? He's pretty close to the, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yeah. So the way these get announced is by reverse order of seniority. So anything written by Amy Coney Barrett, for example, would come first, then Cavanaugh, then Gorsuch, then Cagan, then so Major, then Alito. Then you'd have Breyer, Thomas, and always last as the chief, John Roberts, if he has an opinion. So basically, the way you go through this here is it starts off and you're like, oh, these could be pretty good because it could be Barrett or Kavanaugh or Gorsuch. Then you get to Kagan and Sotomayor and you're probably getting bad rulings through
Starting point is 00:39:38 there. Then you get to Alito and you say, this could be the moment. This could be the Dobbs decision. But if you do not get the Dobbs decision from Alito, then you do not want the Dobbs decision today because it is incredibly unlikely that it would be from Clarence Thomas. It would likely mean that John Roberts wrote it, meaning there would be some sort of weird half measure compromise-compromise thing with the liberals all joining on one side. What we're going to do is we're going to kill only the top half of the baby.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Wait a minute. I think there's a story about this. Since we can't agree, since we can't agree, we're only going to. going to cut off the top half of the baby. And the right for those legs to be free and live and run in the grass and grow, we stand by that. A lot of bottom halves hanging around. It's a lot of bottom halves.
Starting point is 00:40:36 That would not be necessarily a positive ruling in my view. So like once you get past the idea, I mean, it's going to be. Yeah, it's going to kind of be. If he writes it, it will be some incredible. mental gymnastic kind of thing to keep it in place. Yeah, and if you, the way the Dobbs leak was reported was that it was five to three with the conservatives on one side,
Starting point is 00:41:03 liberals on the other, and then Robert's still trying to figure out what he was going to do. If that's true, all he has to do is pick off one, you know, Kavanaugh or somebody else using that one specifically to to come over to the other side with the liberals and they can have a 5-4 decision the other way, written by Roberts, which the liberals in this case, in this court, would embrace wholeheartedly. So it would be very, very disappointing.
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Starting point is 00:44:17 think I've made one here, but somebody says that I have them all wrong. He is the Utah County Attorney. His name is David Levitt. He said that I just don't understand local politics and what's going on in his office, Utah County Attorney. I think it's very important that we have real constitutional Republicans and not any more Republicans like we're finding in our county and district attorney's offices in some of the big cities. But David will be here to explain that in 60 seconds. Go down a limb here and assume that you like getting a good night's rest as much as I do. It'll go even further out on that limb to suggest a lot of what helps create a good night's sleep has to do with the kind of pillow that you're laying your head on. That is extraordinarily
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Starting point is 00:46:10 A few years ago, there was a theme among prosecutors. Most of them were progressive Democrats. But remember, progressivism is a disease that started in the Republican Party and runs strongly in many Republicans. And the theme was that the justice system was broken, it's disproportionately biased towards minorities. It needs to be reimagined and overhauled.
Starting point is 00:46:35 The criminalization, adversarial with law enforcement officers, less prosecutions were the themes amongst these people. After they were elected, what followed were spikes in crime, frightened citizens and ultimately recalls. The Republican, and I pointed him out as a lesson to the United States, you can be in the reddest of red areas, and someone will call as a known Republican, and you better watch carefully.
Starting point is 00:47:08 David Levitt's rhetoric and his policies sound very familiar, at least to me, the people that work for him, his peers, the law enforcement in his county think so as well. I'd like him to differentiate his policies from the people like Chesa Boudin and George Gascone, but maybe that's not fair because he says, I'm wrong and I don't understand. So I've invited him on the program to tell me where I'm wrong. Utah County Attorney David Levitt joins me on the program now. Hello, David. Hello, Glenn.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Thanks for having me on. I'm grateful for the opportunity. Sure. So I read that you have filed 45% fewer cases in the district attorney, felony cases, while filing 79% more in the local justice that would be misdemeanor cases. The attorneys that are working in your area, attorneys have told me those in jail awaiting trials that they are representing say their clients are keeping track of the number of felonies that are being drawn. drop to misdemeanors and telling their attorneys, I'm not, wait, don't do anything yet. You've had, I believe, 25 separate attorneys leave your office, which is a record by far. Six went as far to publish a letter of no confidence in which they wrote, we declare that Mr. Leavitt has vacated his responsibilities to provide you safety and protection in your person and property by failing to enforce
Starting point is 00:48:42 criminal laws against offenders and by prioritizing the protection or the protection of criminals from lawful consequences of their misconduct. You say politics is a dirty business, I believe you, but you now have former high-ranking officials in Utah justice. You have members 25 or 26 of your own staff, law enforcement, both the sheriff and the police, all voicing opposition to you. Is this really just about politics? Well, first
Starting point is 00:49:17 off, Glenn, I'm grateful for the fact that you tee this stuff up and I'm going to trust that you're going to give me some uninterrupted time to... David, what a horrible opportunity... Hang on, David, hold it. I'm sorry. We have the Dobbs case? Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I'm sorry, David. We will move you to another time today. if possible, I just have to take the Dobbs case. It just came out, and I'm sure you understand. I do not mean to be unfair to you on that. I think you're being unfair to me, Glenn. I think that you could certainly give me some time, but it's a little funny that you won't.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I will, sir. By the end of the program, by the end of the program, this is the biggest case in U.S. history, at least in my lifetime. We will move on from you and reschedule two day on today's program. I want to be fair to him. What has happened? With the Dobbs case. We have Roe versus Wade overruled as well as Casey.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Oh my gosh. I don't think I ever thought I would see this day, to be honest with you. But it's a good day. We have talked about this. We have been together for 25 years and we both said never in our lifetime would this happen. Nope. I didn't. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:50:36 it's being widely Lord Please hear The voice of your people We are trying to mend our ways We are We are sorry It has taken us this long
Starting point is 00:50:56 But please hear your people Please Forgive us for what we have done My God Gosh. Is the ruling, does it look to be the same as the original Alito ruling? I'm just going through it now. It does seem to be a 6-3 decision, which is, you know, there was a question of whether Roberts would come on board for this. Looks like he has. So it does seem to be a 6-3 decision. Just let that sink in, America.
Starting point is 00:51:55 What Ruth Bader Ginsburg said, Ruth Bader Ginsburg said that this is, this was unjustly and decided, Roe versus Wade. She thought it was flawed, and it was. the idea that abortion is covered in the Constitution is not true. It is not true. And everything that is not in the Constitution doesn't make it unconstitutional. It just means it goes to the states to decide. That is the law of the land and has been forever. Even Justice Ginsburg said that.
Starting point is 00:53:02 The relevant portion here at the end of the opinion, we end this opinion where we began. Abortion presents a profound moral question. The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each state from regulating or prohibiting abortion. Row and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives. The judgment of the Fifth Circuit is reversed, and the case is remanded. for further proceedings consistent with this opinion. It is so ordered.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Okay. We please, our producers need to be watching the White House and all others who are going to come out in a statement. This means Jane's revenge is going to be at least what they say is they are going to be lighting cities on fire tonight. I'm prayerful that that doesn't happen, but I wouldn't doubt it. The media is going to stir things up like there is no tomorrow. But we can beg the Lord for peace and protection on all sides. You know, I think it's, I think it is so important to know that we have to be on God's side because he's not picking sides.
Starting point is 00:54:42 He doesn't. He loves all of his children equally. And we just try to do what he wants us to do. So pray for all of those who are terrified about what this means, all those who are, I think, misguided. and pray for peace to wash over us. I doubt, well, I'm not going to, I have no idea what the Lord wants. Whatever the Lord wants, we'll, we'll deal with it.
Starting point is 00:55:21 All right. Would you make sure that we have talked to Levitt's office? And if we can, we'll do it on the bottom of the hour. My apologies to him. I don't mean to be rude, but sorry. I hope we can prioritize his local race over. over the Dobbs decision, Glenn, I don't understand why you didn't do that. It was really rude of you to cut him off in the middle of that.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I mean, what could you possibly be talking about? Only, you know, tens of millions of children potentially are on the road to living instead of not being alive. But I want to make sure he gets his words in here because I know that was a high priority to him. So we'll get back to him as soon as possible. I'm glad he prioritized that. It's a really important moment for him to make that personal argument. And I'm glad he made it. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Can we get, let me, I'm sorry, but we don't have another, we don't have a break long enough. Can we get analysis on, bottom of this hour? Because if we get analysis on this hour,
Starting point is 00:56:23 if they have time to read it, get analysis on, and then move David to the next hour. If we can't get analysis because they haven't had time to read it yet, then let's, I'm sorry, I'm just shocked that this came out.
Starting point is 00:56:36 We were just having, this conversation before we went on the air. And Stu said, what are you going to do if the Dobbs case comes out? And I said, it's not going to come out. And he said, but if it comes out, and I said, it's not going to come out. But if it does, we have to take that. And so I'm just shocked because I did not expect that to happen. Yeah. Glenn, we can be one excerpt here from the ruling. We do not pretend to know how our political system or society will respond to today's decision overruling Roe and Casey. And even if we could foresee what will happen, we would have no authority to let that knowledge
Starting point is 00:57:11 influence our decision. Gosh, if that is not the central problem with the Supreme Court so often. So glad they pointed that out. We can only do our job, which is to interpret the law, apply longstanding principles of stare decisis, and decide this case accordingly. We therefore hold that the Constitution does not confer a right to abortion, period. Rowan Casey must be overruled, and the authority to regulate abortion must be returned to the people and their elected representatives. It is the best of times.
Starting point is 00:57:43 It is the worst of times. We're going to see miracles in our lifetime, and I think we just saw one. All right, let me pause, tell you about LifeLock. How important is your identity to you? I mean, it not only stands as a protective wall between everything you have financially and the dangerous world of cybercriminals. It also says who you are in the community, what level of credibility you have. But with a tiny slip of information, and it doesn't have to be much, all of it can be taken
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Starting point is 00:59:37 It was another one, Sarah. Was that before the interview or after? After. Okay. Well, I'm going to I'm going to sincerely apologize one very last time that it was unfortunate
Starting point is 00:59:55 that David Levitt happened to be on and wanted to express who he is when the biggest case in the history of my lifetime comes out and interrupts the interview I am going to politely invite him on in a few minutes. If he treats any of my office staff the way he just treated my office staff, he will not be welcome on the air.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And David, I think a lot of people are learning a lot about you. So we can reset. It was an unfortunate timing. We can reset. Or you can leave it as is. It's up to you. Can we please stop talking about this guy? I can't.
Starting point is 01:00:49 I literally. No, that's it. I want you to know. That's it. That's it. Thank you. That's it. The court writes,
Starting point is 01:00:57 the precedents should be respected, but sometimes the court errs. And occasionally the court issues an important decision that is egregiously wrong. When that happens, stare decisis is not a straight jacket. This is something, of course, we've been arguing for decades. And seemingly,
Starting point is 01:01:14 is obvious, as you point out, I mean, even Ruth Bader Ginsburg supported this at one point in her career. Many liberal, you know, court watchers feel the same way. This is not a, this is not a conservative. There's a lot of passion for conservatives on the pro-life side of this, and there's very little appetite for that on the left. However, there is appetite for this being terrible law, and an egregiously made, egregiously poor decision made when Roe versus Wade was initially, you know, decided. And so the left has been on this on board with this, not to say we shouldn't have abortion, which again, this is not what this does. And it's important to remember that overturning Roe versus Wade does very little to stop abortion in this country. It's a very important first
Starting point is 01:02:03 step. It won't. But it will anyone who wants to get an abortion in this country will still be able to get them. This is why the work that, you know, we've talked about some of these organizations we've worked with so important. It's about still changing hearts and minds. This will not do it on its own, but it is an important step. So do you remember when I was at Fox and I was talking about why it was so important to be good, be steady, don't fight back the way they want you to fight back because Martin Luther King was right. When you put good versus evil side by side, the American people will know it and they will recognize it and they will see it.
Starting point is 01:02:47 A lot of Americans have been duped. And a lot of Americans, you know, it's very, very difficult. You learn this from the history of Germany and other places. Once you decide and you've gone so far mentally down the road, it takes a huge amount of courage to say, holy cow, I was wrong about this and switch sides. But I think you're going to see states, California, New York, they are going to become abortion mills. They are going to do abortion vacations. They are going to push the limits as far as they're going to say, if it's up to the state, you will see, you will see, you will see,
Starting point is 01:03:33 laws in some states that say after a baby is born, you can kill it. They've done it already in Chicago. They've done it illegally in Chicago. They talked about it in Virginia. They're going to do it in New York. They're going to do it in California. Believe me. And this will be the place where I think a lot of Americans will have to decide, can I live in a state like that? Can I be part of that? Can I be part of that? This is so far, this will become so far over the edge that most Americans will be appalled by what is happening. Even those who believe that they want to have reasonable limits to abortion, they will not find it reasonable what these death states will do. There are a lot of ways to show our appreciation for those who fight. keep us free and safe. It isn't just the respect we give on certain days of the year,
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Starting point is 01:06:21 No, that was it, Glenn. That's it. Okay. We'll have analysis for that in just a minute. We're also going to cover. But I started an interview that I actually spent about two hours this morning preparing for. And I started that. And unfortunately, the Dobbs case came down right at the beginning of it.
Starting point is 01:06:50 And it is a guy who is running for Utah County Attorney General, which I don't think my audience gives a flying crap about right now. And I don't, quite honestly. But I want to make sure that I honor my word. He told me that I'm reading the wrong things. He said many things to my producer off air, which I do not appreciate. But I am going to give him the opportunity to tell me where I'm wrong. He says I'm reading all of the wrong things.
Starting point is 01:07:24 and I just don't understand. David Levitt, go ahead. Thank you, Glenn. Let's start with a basic assumption that as Americans, we all believe that the government should prove the allegations it makes against people. Do you agree with that, Glenn?
Starting point is 01:07:44 Yes, I do, David. Go ahead. Tell me where I'm wrong, sir. Go ahead. And the reality is, in the American criminal justice system, the government does not prove the case. The government does not prove the allegations it makes against people 99% of the time because the government gives plea bargains.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Now, a plea bargain by definition is the government charging someone with crime X and saying to the accused, if you don't make us prove the case that we have against you, then we'll give you a lighter sentence. And that absolutely contradicts and goes against what our founders required, and that is that juries find people guilty. It's so bad that we are losing the jury trial as an institution in America. and because 99% of the time prosecutors give plea bargains
Starting point is 01:08:54 so that they don't have to prove the case against people. And what that results in is lighter sentences for the most violent and the dangerous. And lots of inequities for everybody else, because we have a government that punishes people without proving the case. And the reason why I'm getting such pushback is because, not because I'm a liberal progressive, but because I am more conservative on this than any other prosecutor in America. Because what I am saying is that the definition of the definition of big government is a government without checks. Juries are supposed to be a check on the prosecutor and the prosecutor is supposed to be a check on the police because everyone,
Starting point is 01:09:48 in our system should have a check on them. Well, right now, prosecutors largely have no check and police largely have no check. And so what angers my opposition is that I not only want to hold defendants accountable by taking them to a jury trial, I am insisting that we hold government accountable by requiring that the government prove its case. Most people don't realize that 47 out of 50 states during this pandemic suspended the right to a trial by jury. Why? Because the system doesn't want to try cases to a jury. Why?
Starting point is 01:10:28 Because it benefits prosecutors and defense attorneys and police and judges if they don't have to go through the burden of actually making the government prove its case to a to a jury. The reason why police and prosecutors are coming after me is because I'm making them do their job. Because when prosecutors give plea bargains, what happens is police make a very logical conclusion. That we don't have, why would we investigate this fully if the prosecutor is just going to give a plea bargain? And so police don't investigate the cases the way they should. And when police don't investigate the cases the way they should, what occurs is that prosecutors then have to charge higher to get another plea bargain.
Starting point is 01:11:25 And so really what we have is we are losing our constitutional right to a jury trial. And that's what this campaign is about. And all of this hooey, all of this hooey that I'm somehow. a progressive just misses the point because the progressive like like George Gaston and Budin in San Francisco they should lose their jobs because they're out there saying they're yeah we're not going to prosecute X, Y, and Z crime. I never say that I will never ever ever say that there's a crime that should not be prosecuted. What I do say is that there's not a crime that should be prosecuted that the government doesn't
Starting point is 01:12:06 prove and that's a big difference okay between It is. Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much, David. I appreciate it. It's amazing that he's on the right side, the fraternal order of police. 26 of his prosecutors have left his office. You have many state officials, and you even have sheriffs from different parts of the state that disagree with him, but I'm sure he knows exactly what he's talking about. Now let's get back to something that people actually care about,
Starting point is 01:12:38 and that is the end of abortion in America. At least potentially, right? The end of Roe versus Wade in America is the way. The end of abortion in America in states that don't believe in abortion. You know, I don't understand what the problem is. Why, especially on things that are this people are. people are passionate on both sides. You are never going to convince one another
Starting point is 01:13:14 that we have to do it one way or the other. That's why the Constitution says leave it to the states. California, you want to do it? Do it. I don't want to be a part of it. If you don't want to do it, Texas, don't do it. There's a reason I live in Texas.
Starting point is 01:13:42 And I shouldn't have to pay for the mistakes of California. And I mean those budgetary mistakes. I shouldn't have to live by their gas laws. Why should I have to do the things that California? Because California voters decide they want all of this sex crap in their textbooks. I don't want it in my kids' textbooks. Why do my textbooks, why are they slaves to California? California. You Californians either grew up there and didn't have the common sense to leave or you're stuck there for some reason. God bless you. Or you just can't find
Starting point is 01:14:22 any other job or you love it. Well, I got to tell you, I've lived all over the country, all over the country. And it's worth moving. It's worth moving. I've lived in place. I lived in Phoenix where it's 120 degrees. I grew up in Seattle where it's like 65 and you're like, oh my gosh, it's so hot today. I lived in Phoenix. It was like standing in an oven. I live places for other reasons than the weather. But California and New York, they think this is the problem with the Constitution.
Starting point is 01:15:02 This is why we have representatives. This is why we have delegates. This is why we don't, we are not a democracy. We are not voting by the numbers alone. Otherwise, big states would dominate little states. That was the argument. That was the biggest argument in the constitutional convention. Why isn't New York just going to just roll over all of us?
Starting point is 01:15:35 because they'll have so many people there, they're going to roll over all of us little states. No, no, we're not going to allow that to happen. We are going to say there are certain rights that everyone has in America, and the federal government, the state government, cannot do anything about it. But we're going to leave enough out because there are things that people are contentious on and those people are going to be able to vote and decide in their area
Starting point is 01:16:13 or their state. You know, it's funny, these people on the right, whenever they lose, they want to burn everything down, but then, and you will hear a lot of this. You know what we need to do? No, we need to do. We just need to break away. California shouldn't have to live by this. New York shouldn't have to live by this. You're right. You're right. You're making the point of the 10th Amendment. You're right. Welcome to the U.S. Constitution.
Starting point is 01:16:52 And it seems like, Glenn, you know, the one thing that's funny about that is they'll argue this is the same thing with guns. But guns, there's another amendment that protects your right to guns. There isn't one that protects your right to abortion. And if it's not mentioned in the Constitution, it's supposed to be. to the states. And that's not our, not my long-term desired outcome. Not that so people can go, you know, kill children in other states. That's not my desired outcome. But that's what, that's how this is supposed to be handled, at least at this point. I feel woefully unprepared for today's news and woefully overprepared for an interview that means nothing today. Because I've got a lot
Starting point is 01:17:38 to say in that interview. But nobody cares today. And so I spent all my time preparing for that and none of my time preparing for the end of Roe versus Wade in America. Never thought it would happen in my lifetime. This country is facing extremely significant slowdown as we move closer and closer to the brink of recession. Everything costs more lately.
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Starting point is 01:19:50 night of rage. Good versus evil. Build up or tear down. Fire of God? Or destructive fires of hell. It's funny, we were just in a break, and my emotions are all over the board today, as I'm sure yours are. As I announced it, because it just came as a shock to me today.
Starting point is 01:20:27 I did not expect it today. I wasn't. And as I'm talking about it, I don't know if you could have, if you noticed, but I mean, I got choked up and teared up and so did Stu. And so did our producers. We just have to take a minute and just think of the miracle we just, think of the miracle we just witnessed.
Starting point is 01:21:01 There isn't a soul, not one soul in this audience that thought that this would happen like this, this fast? I didn't think it would happen in my lifetime. And the last thing we should do, and this is going to be hard, the last thing we should do, the last thing we should do, because there's going to be a lot of people who are so misinformed on what the Constitution says, what this really means. Nobody is going to lose their opportunity, as crazy as this sounds, to kill their baby. It is going to become worse in some states.
Starting point is 01:21:51 The next fight is going to come from the United States government, using your tax dollars to provide abortions possibly on military bases in states where abortions will become illegal. I have no problem if that's what you want to do as a company. If you want to fly people to another state and you want to pay for their abortion, I don't understand it. I think it's morally reprehensible. I think you are at the altar of Ba'al. But you can do that.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Not with my tax dollars. Not with my tax dollars. Let's not taint our honorable military with that. And if they start doing that, I would urge military members I would much rather spend my time in the brig than guard a facility that is now killing children. That's not what you signed up to do.
Starting point is 01:23:07 This is the Glenn Back program, entertainment and enlightenment. Some reactions, James Ball said, not sure what's pro-life about a court that makes it easier for the rapist to carry a gun the day before denying their victim's rights to an abortion. I can't even understand your logic there. I mean, if you're a rapist, you shouldn't have a gun. If you were a law-abiding citizen when you got the gun,
Starting point is 01:24:32 and then you're like, you know what? I'm going to go rape some people. You know, that's a problem, but we're not in minority report yet. And it's very pro-life. Just what did the baby have to do with all of that? Maybe it's just me. The reactions are exactly what you thought they would be. The reactions from the right are, praise God.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Good versus evil. It is so clear to see. Praise God is trending on Twitter, and the second trend is Night of Rage. It is the possibility of a crystal knot. America's crystal knock happening tonight. Josh Hammer joins us with in-depth look, as much in-depth as you can do in-depth minutes,
Starting point is 01:25:34 an in-depth look at this ruling and what it means. We go to him in 60 seconds. How would you like it if every time you pick up your cell phone, you're reminded not only how much money you're saving every month because you switch to Patriot Mobile, but you're also filled with sadness because you're still being overcharged. These days, you have to be able to. to save money wherever you can and you save a lot of money by switching to Patriot Mobile.
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Starting point is 01:26:46 It's patriotmoble.com slash Beck. PatriotMobile.com slash Beck or call 972 Patriot. It's 972 Patriot. Josh Hammer, he is the opinion editor of Newsweek. He is the host of the Josh Hammer Show. he is really quite brilliant, one of the leading minds in the conservative movement. I think Josh Hammer joins us now to tell us what did you, what did you find in this decision? Glenn, great to be back with you on such a momentous and really is emotionally powerful day, honestly.
Starting point is 01:27:26 So, you know, look, as you said, this dropped recently. Funny enough, I was in the middle of giving a guest lecture for an organization among the advisory board of when it dropped. So I barely had any time to kind of skim through here, let alone get to the concurring and dissenting opinions. But it looks like this looks very similar to the draft opinion that was leaked by the Politico story a month and a half ago in early May. And I think those of us who were praying that the five justices from this leaked draft majority opinion would have the fortitude to stiffen their spines against this unprecedented assault, now know that our prayers were answered, Glenn. That's really my takeaway right now. This looks a lot like the least opinion. Justice Thomas and Justice Kavanaugh have some brief concurring opinions, but unbelievable. And really just
Starting point is 01:28:17 holding aside the constitutional law stuff for a second here, just speaking as pro-lifers, on a day like today, I think we really just need to pause. And I tweeted this out earlier. we need to just be grateful for our half century of pro-life activist forebears who, you know, this Glenn, this issue could have gone away after, after 1973. That was a long time ago in 1973. I mean, this issue could have just gone away. We owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to the pro-life moral activist, political activists, and of course, yes, the legal activist who fought day in and day out to make sure that this grave injustice
Starting point is 01:28:53 stayed front and center of our national political conscience. And in many days, today is the culmination of a half century of fighting for truth and justice, but in many ways it's also a new beginning for the pro-life fight as well, interestingly. How do you mean a new beginning for the fight? I think it's going to turn, I think we're going to see abortion turn even darker in those states that allow it. Is that what you're meaning by this? Well, look, I mean, for a half century now, Roe versus Wade and its progeny specifically, the Planned Parenthood versus Casey case in 1992, they took away from the states, obviously,
Starting point is 01:29:38 the arrogated authority away from the states, the ability to attempt to nationally codify one view of the morality of abortion. It happened to be a profoundly immoral view. So the fight now shifts to the states. And the pro-life activists and all the 50s states, especially obviously in red states, purple states. I mean, admittedly some blue states like New York and California probably won't be able to touch them there. But we have to make sure that our side is well positioned in the state capitals for every red, purplish, and probably even light blue state to make sure that we fight for successful, cogent and morally consistent pro-life legislation. The state of Oklahoma, actually, just north of Texas, where I know you are
Starting point is 01:30:25 on. They've been leading on this, actually. Governor Kevin Stitt signed into law a fantastic pro-life bill there in Oklahoma a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago or so at this point, that basically just bans abortion straightforward from conception. And there are some, you know, obviously, like the mother exceptions and so forth, but we really need to start thinking about trying to craft legislation now at the state level. But to your point, yes, I do fear, of course, that blue states will only double down in their radicalism. And unfortunately, that's probably only going to lead to an ever greater divide in our country than we currently have today. But obviously, we're going to save, at the end of the day here, we're going to save
Starting point is 01:31:02 millions and millions of unborn children. We are going to save human beings who can grow up to cure cancer, who can win Nobel Prizes. I mean, this is just a tremendous win for the human species. I don't really know how to say it than that. I tell you, I saw the stat that I think it was last year or the year before, 20% of all pregnancies ended in abortion. 20%. That is, that's a shocking number.
Starting point is 01:31:33 And we do have our work cut out for us because I think that these states are going to double down. But I think, you know, God doesn't waste anything. There is no waste with God. even the worst things that could possibly happen turn out to be something good.
Starting point is 01:31:59 You know what I mean? You're like, holy cow, how did that just happen? And I think that evil is going to fully come on masked. I mean, I'm telling you, Josh. I don't know how you feel about this. I think this could be the day of
Starting point is 01:32:14 of America's crystal knock. I can see these pro-life centers being burned to the ground today. They're calling for a night of rage around the country. I mean, I think evil is going to show itself, and that'll scare the American people, hopefully. You know, I've been thinking about this a lot this week, actually, because I've been bracing for kind of a new George Floyd summer of love kind of thing
Starting point is 01:32:43 happening this summer coming to a city or a suburb near you, unfortunately, myself. Look, I live in Florida. I know you live in Texas. it is a moment like this where I do think that where you live matters and who your mayor is, who your governor is matters. Because law and order and, you know, rioting and anarchy is not really a federal issue. I mean, it is to a limited extent. I mean, in June 2020, Tom Cotton wrote this op-ed that was pretty controversial at the time.
Starting point is 01:33:14 I happen to agree with it where he said, quote-unquote, send in the troops. And there is some federal legislation from the reconstruction. error that would justify that. But most kind of quelling and quashing of anarchy does happen, constitutionally speaking, at the state and local level. So at a moment like this, where I fear that you are probably not wrong, I take some solace that Governor DeSantis is my governor. I think Texans, you know, should take some solace that they are represented by a Republican governor and state legislature there as well. So I fear that you are right. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, pray, obviously, that no one is harmed. I mean, I fear, though, that something bad is happening.
Starting point is 01:34:00 And at the end of the day, of course, that does not mean the justices cannot do what they are supposed to do. So thank God they did that. So, Josh, have you looked into what the White House has been saying? The White House yesterday. In fact, I think do we have a clip of this what the White House said yesterday about the guns and then they were turned to the SCOTUS ruling for Roe versus Wade. Do we have that, please? Will the president accept this decision that's legitimate, even if he disagrees with it? It's going to come from the Supreme Court,
Starting point is 01:34:34 so it's going to be a decision that we're certainly going to respond to. So I'll leave it at me. It's just like any other Supreme Court decision, just like the one that they did today on guns. So the White House won't say that, they're going to accept it, which I don't think they will. They're talking now about taking doctors and moving them into places like Oklahoma or Texas where abortions will be outlawed and putting doctors on our military bases to perform abortions. I mean, where does this go when
Starting point is 01:35:11 you have a government that is in defiance of one branch of the government? So there's a lot to unpack here. So we should start from first principles. The idea of judicial supremacy, and this is a peculiar thing to say on a daylight today where such a pro-life victory has happened admittedly. But if we're going to be intellectually consistent here, the idea of judicial supremacy, the idea that the justices have the sole and exclusive ability to interpret the constitution for themselves and no other constitutional actor in Article 1 or Article 2, let alone the state, has the ability. to independently interpret it.
Starting point is 01:35:53 That is erroneous. In fact, actually, it was really Abraham Lincoln, actually, who in the Dred Scott case famously opposed judicial supremacy and flouted the Dred Scott ruling, at least as pertained to everyone other than Dred Scott himself. So I have actually argued in formal legal scholarship in a law of the article, actually, that the Lincolnian view of how each branch of government
Starting point is 01:36:15 should interpret the Constitution for itself in its own ambit is correct. Having said that, Having said that, there is a thing called prudence and there's a thing called comedy. And in a moment like today, when it really does look like, and I agree with you that we are now bracing for riots through the streets, when the political rhetoric is at DefCon 1, when people are trying to assassinate Supreme Court justices, I think it would be at a bare minimum, a profoundly imprudent act for the Biden administration. to try to undermine this ruling. Now, what they might do is they might try to kind of issue some kind of limp executive orders or issue some regulations that might try to kind of undermine it at the edges here.
Starting point is 01:37:04 But at the end of the day, the idea that this returns to the states, there's not really a whole lot they can do about that. I mean, basically, at this point, if red states throughout the country, Kentucky, West Virginia, Kansas, whatever, if they want to go ahead and ban abortion, what can the bind the administration literally do? do about that. I mean, short of sending in the National Guard to protect Planned Parenthood if the state legislature or Kentucky goes ahead and bans it, there's really not a whole lot they can do. And it's very difficult to envision a world. And which the Biden administration literally sends in troops to
Starting point is 01:37:37 red states to protect Planned Parenthood if that state legislature goes ahead and bans it. So practically speaking, this is like a lot of tough talk and rhetoric. This obviously is a campaign year in 2022. So there's really not a whole lot, but practically speaking, they can do to actually prevent red and purple states from enacting pro-life legislation. I'm glad to hear that. I know that they have been working on things. I mean, he has said, you know, there's executive orders that I can employ. There are things that I can do. He's talked about a national public health emergency, which I think is just crazy. I would hope that the president would come out today and say we strongly disagree with this.
Starting point is 01:38:23 And you're right. The court is not the end all. But the court did not end abortion. It just said the people should decide. I think that's the best kind of court ruling on any of it. The people should decide what this is and send it back to the states. Josh, I thank you very much. Appreciate your time.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Was there, there was another ruling that came out today. Was it important? Oh, no. I mean, in comparison to this, total nothing burger, it was like a 5-4 decision on something Medicare reimbursement related. So it's a real nothing burger, honestly. Great. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Appreciate it, Josh. Josh Hammer, opinion editor for Newsweek, and the host of the Josh Hammer Show. Our sponsor, this half hour, is Goldline. Oh, golly. Stu, what is the stock market doing? Can you look up? Stock market going up or down? Looks like it's going up.
Starting point is 01:39:24 Up a little bit, yeah, today. Yep, up a little bit. A couple percent. Yeah, we should watch the futures over the weekend because it looks like if we have a crystal knock happen tonight, which they are calling for, I hope it doesn't happen. But if you start to have real civil unrest, you'll start to see those numbers go down again. as a student of history, you know, bad things happen. And then politicians usually make things worse.
Starting point is 01:39:58 I was saying to somebody just the other day, was it? I said, man, can you imagine if we could just, if all of the politicians in the world just kind of like disappeared and we were just left and we were like, oh, okay, now we can fix things. I think we could fix things pretty quickly. but one of the things we're not going to fix quickly is the debt and the dollar and what is happening with that. I don't know if you saw the Federal Reserve. Jerome Powell came out and said, we are on an unsustainable path right now with our debt. We cannot continue.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Now, these are the people that are doing the loans for us. That's like the bank going, guys, I'm going to have to take everything away and foreclose on you pretty soon, you got to change your ways. Not that the bank would say that to you or I. They would just take our stuff. But we are on an unsustainable path, and it's only going to get worse, more and more spending,
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Starting point is 01:41:33 10 seconds. Station ID. This is the Glenn Beck program. Welcome to Friday. I really can't believe that this has happened. Glenn, we've been doing the show for so long. We've talked about this issue for so many years. 20 years we've been doing the show together and at I don't think at no point did I actually believe
Starting point is 01:42:02 we would see this day. I have to be honest. I am very on the air a hundred times that this would not happen. I mean, here we are. I'm ashamed of what we all decided when we were back in New York. We got a lot of people saying to us, please speak out on abortion. Please speak out, you know, and and I remember having a meeting with all of the producers and saying, guys, there is only so much water we can carry. And the abortion, Roe versus Wade,
Starting point is 01:42:40 is not going to change. It's just not going to change. And we can't carry any more water because that one could break our backs. It could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. And I'm ashamed of that. You know, we, I've done this for 45 years. I never talked about abortion really up until I started doing talk radio, which was probably very wise because I wasn't doing political radio. But when I started, I would talk about it from time to time and we would do, we'd do things on it to try to get people to think.
Starting point is 01:43:16 But we never took serious stances up until about probably what, six or seven years ago. and we decided exactly the opposite of what we did in New York. We're like, you know what, I don't think there's anything more important than this. Saving children, saving children from sex slavery, saving children who are being held by the Taliban, saving children from, you know, being killed by a so-called doctor. There's nothing more important that we could do. And Josh is right. Those people who have been standing at those clinics for 50 years, God bless them.
Starting point is 01:43:51 God bless them. Yeah, amazing, we've talked to many of them, and they've done amazing work over the years to keep this thing alive. I mean, you could see that people might just give up on something like this, but it's hard when it's 63 million children that could be alive and aren't. And it's hard to give up on something like that. And, you know, we should talk about the road ahead, too, because this is not the end of this. This problem is not solved. Yeah, I want to talk about what we need to do because we need, we're at the very beginning. and we're going to need to open our hearts a little bit more.
Starting point is 01:44:24 But also, you know, I hear people bash religions all the time, different religions, because it's not, you know, their religion or whatever. I don't care who you are. You should be thanking those Catholic, faithful Catholic members of the Catholic Church that have stood for 50 years. They really led the way on this. Oh, let me tell you about Rough Green. Sorry, I am in vacation mode.
Starting point is 01:44:56 But in 30 minutes, I'm on vacation, so sorry about that. Rough Greens, if you're like me, you walk through the front door and your dog is there waiting for you. My dog, I said this morning, I said, where's my dog? And he is right at my feet this time he was right behind me, and I didn't see him. I love my dog. I love him. And I want to make sure that I feed him the very best. It bums me when I see his eyes get old.
Starting point is 01:45:25 But he's doing great. and living a lot longer than I thought he would. We've been feeding him regular dog food and putting rough greens on it for about four or five years. And I'm telling you, I think he's living longer. He's living a happier and healthier life. I can tell you that for sure. Rough greens, get a free bag to try out for your dog. Make sure your dog likes eating it.
Starting point is 01:45:48 Rough greens doesn't want to sell you a bag and then have you not use it because your dog doesn't like it. Most dogs love it. But make sure, get a free bag. If your dog loves that, then start feeding your dog month after month at roughgreens.com slash back. You know, I just walked outside of him. I have a barn here on the ranch, and it's where my broadcast studio is. And I just walked out to get some fresh air a few minutes ago. And it's a, this is a day you will remember where you were.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Whatever side you're on, you'll remember this day. And I walk outside and my son and another guy standing by this enormous tractor. And he's hitching it up to a trailer because they're moving a bunch of logs from one field to another because they're building a corral. And I don't have my glasses on and I'm looking and I'm like, is that Rafe? and I can't, I'm not sure because he's a man. It's the first summer where he's up here and he is a man. And it was an interesting thought to have about my son who, now in a couple months, 18 years ago, a very brave young teenager decided not to do.
Starting point is 01:47:48 to have an abortion, decided that he had nothing to do with her mistake or whatever happened. And I remember we prayed so hard for a baby. And I felt almost from the beginning that we were supposed to adopt. And this is really hard for moms, really hard. Baby not from her body. And I think as guys, we don't understand that because I don't want anything coming out of my body. And if something comes out of my, come comes out of my body, I'm not putting in swaddling clothes. I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 01:48:40 And we both wondered, how is this going to work? And there is something about God that he is my son. And there is no difference between him and any of my other children. None. zero, not even a shadow. And just by chance, if his birth mother happens to be listening, or his birth grandparents happen to be listening, thank you.
Starting point is 01:49:22 Thank you for giving this young man chance to live. He is, well, he's been a pain in the ass, but he's also my greatest joy. We have to look at the things that we do now. Because there's a lot of, she was 14, I think. Imagine being a 14-year-old. I remember she called her mom because she went to school and she had to tell her mom, but she couldn't look her in the eye and tell her.
Starting point is 01:49:58 So she called, didn't know what her mom was going to say, and her mom was so great. She immediately just said, come home, sweetheart, come home. And they worked it out together, what was going to happen. and people who fight for the right to abort children say, you know, who's going to take care of them? There's lots of us, lots of us, millions of us, millions. Millions of us. You know, today, Roe v. Wade was, it came to an end.
Starting point is 01:50:43 Catholics would point out on the feast of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, and I doubt that they think that is just a coincidence. because we know that the heart of Christ, I mean, the only thing he really got smoked at was children being abused. It was clear he liked children much more, you know, than us adults. But then again, I don't blame him. I do too.
Starting point is 01:51:24 But we can't just think of the children today that are going to be saved and then say, that's a good thing. We have to think of the moms. And, you know, I, I'm like this with Christians who just really want to get people baptized. They don't really care. It's all about the number. They, they, if you want to bring somebody closer to God in baptism,
Starting point is 01:51:56 that is a fantastic gift, not from you, but from God. Fantastic. But nobody's going to do that if you don't actually love them. the people who the people who need salvation they don't think anybody loves them the women who are pregnant most not all
Starting point is 01:52:16 but most who are pregnant they feel trapped they don't know what they're going to do we have to be there for them not just during the time they're pregnant but if they choose to keep the child to help them to support them
Starting point is 01:52:39 you know it's so funny I guess we both give up on, you know, once the baby is aborted or the baby is saved, then society on both sides kind of just turns away. When he's Planned Parenthood, are they concerned about the mental health? Because they deny it that it's, no, no, no, people are celebrating their abortions. I don't think so. I don't think you can do that. And you may have felt like there was absolutely no way out,
Starting point is 01:53:23 but at some point that's going to, it will haunt you what could have been. Think about just the mistakes you make in your life and how they bother you. I shouldn't have said that. I mean, there were times in my life where I said things to my mom or whatever. I carried those things around for 25 years. We have to have compassion for all of these women. Now, if you're going to use this for contraception, I don't. really, I don't know how to talk to you. I'll try, but I don't know how I can relate,
Starting point is 01:54:06 because, but I'm hoping most people aren't like that. I'm hoping that's the anomaly in our society that just thinks this is the way to have birth control. And one more thing on birth control. Why is that still a prescription? I'd like to say I'm not a doctor, but technically I am. but I'm not sure why that's still a prescription. Don't we know what that does? I mean, aren't we pretty sure? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:55 That's what happens. This is all it does. It's a pretty safe drug. Do we not just trust people to use only as directed? I mean, we trust people. I mean, I see stuff all the time. It says, do not drink. Okay, well, it's turpentine, so I'm not going to drink it, but thank you for trusting me to know I'm smart enough not to do that.
Starting point is 01:55:22 Don't put in eyes. Okay, I'm going to make sure that I don't put that, you know, that cream in my eyes. Thank you. Good, good safety tip. I mean, just making contraception over the counter, the pill over the counter, would be helpful, wouldn't it? it's a lot better to have them get a pill over the counter like that than have our daughters or anybody else think about the abortion drug that the FDA now will make sure that everybody can get. That thing is brutal. That is, that's brutal.
Starting point is 01:56:14 Anyway, I truly, as I go on vacation here in a minute, I truly thank God for living in these times. it's it would you live at any other time i mean i mean i'm a little selfish because i'm a whiner i don't absolutely positively nothing before air conditioning nothing before air conditioning i even would say i want to still live in a time where all my meat comes from a counter in a little plastic or a styrofoam tray i mean really i mean that's that's about as roughing it as i want to go i don't want to go pass those two things. Indoor toilets. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:05 But look at the times that we live in now. The miracles that are happening, the miracles of science, the freedoms that we do have, I have a guy who's on my staff. He's from Scotland. And he, once in a while, he gets tired of hearing me whine about, this country is just, and he's like, come to Scotland. Come to England. He's like, I know it's not what it was, but it's still the greatest thing.
Starting point is 01:57:32 place on earth. And it is. And just the victories, just this week, there's going to be more, I think, next week. Just the victories in the Supreme Court. And it's not, it's not because of ideology. It's because the people who are put on the court now actually respect the Constitution of the United States. You know, Clarence Thomas and Kagan ruled together on, I don't know, something with Medicare
Starting point is 01:58:06 today. What? I don't think they could agree on a dinner menu, but that's not because Thomas sold out or Kagan sold out. I know with Thomas at least. That's because he believes that's what the Constitution says. And that's what's so great about it. It doesn't cut your way every time.
Starting point is 01:58:40 You don't always win. You don't always get your way. Today's a great day. Praise God. Praise God. We have taken this huge step today. Lord, see your people and keep them safe and keep the people who are actually working in these pro-life clinics. Our judges, our police, our cities, please keep them safe.
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Starting point is 02:00:49 If I'm gone for the next two weeks, do not believe anything that Stu or Pat say I am doing. Not a word of it will be true. Not a word of it will be true. Well, except for being. taken by Putin or Soros and being trapped in some basement. You're blowing up our show plans here. We have to now rework two weeks' worth of shows to get that. I mean, I think we might have a couple of things to talk about, though, while you're gone, Glenn, you know?
Starting point is 02:01:21 Yeah, because there's still more, there's big news still to come from the Supreme Court next week. Yeah. And, you know, Pat and I have talked about this before with you as well in that you, I think you could morally justify. It would be a terrible program, but you could morally justify coming in every day and only talking about abortion. Only. It is, we're talking about 63 million people that could be alive and aren't. And for all the talk we get of hatred and racism and transphobia and homophobia, I can tell you this. If you implemented every single policy a conservative wants, and this became our paradise where we're
Starting point is 02:02:05 We got everything we've ever wanted. There would be millions more African Americans, transgendered people, gay people, Hispanic people, Asian people alive. That is the bottom line. The bottom line is, despite all of our differences and all the things that we don't like about people's opinions on the other side of the aisle, our policies would lead to more people having a chance at life. and that means we should not abort the next Albert Einstein, but we should also not abort the next crappy waiter at Chili's who got your order wrong.
Starting point is 02:02:42 And we should also not abort a person who grows up to be a career criminal. Stop. Everyone gets a chance at life. Stop with this extremist agenda. Wait, that's too extreme. Okay. The Chili's guy and the Einstein, they get to live. The Chili's guy that screwed up your order.
Starting point is 02:03:00 Yeah, the Chili's guy. He's got to go. What's worse than them are the ones that are like the fast food restaurants because you're halfway down the block. I want them put into the friar. You know what I mean? That's not a Taco Bell exception. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 02:03:17 All right. Have a great, great couple of weeks. God bless you.

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