The Glenn Beck Program - Remember Our Unity | Guests: Garrett Graff & Tristan Harris | 9/11/20

Episode Date: September 11, 2020

19 years after 9/11, do we recognize America any more? Osama bin Laden’s pro-Trump niece is warning Americans to wake up. The NFL season’s opening game was very preachy. A military unit saved 300 campers from the West Coast fires. “The Only Plane in the Sky” author Garrett M. Graff describes how 9/11 is fading from memory to history. Danielle Rabkin, owner of CrossFit Golden Gate in San Francisco, joins after state gyms were allowed to open, but not private ones. An op-ed claims that conservative talk radio hosts are fueling the nation’s division, but Glenn sets the record straight. But real division is coming from social media, as former Google design ethicist Tristan Harris describes in his new Netflix film, "The Social Dilemma." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is the Glenn Beck program. Say again. Execution 956, did you understand that transmission? It said it was unreasonable. It sounded like someone said they have a bomb or not. We just didn't get it clear. Turn back to 220, I think. Let me don't be clear.

Eric is 106 and ejection 956. We just lost the target on that aircraft. Man, Z-100, 852. Something weird is going on. Yeah. The World Trade Center is on fire. Oh, my goodness. The top of the building.

We're trying to get information. Deadly. Top level of one of the... News to unfold from New York... A plane crashed. My sister's in that building. Okay. And I hope she's okay.

And I got to run to New York. Oh, my gosh. Complete Pandem. It's raining papers and ashes. A second plane has now flown in. Wait, explosion to Pentagon? A third location is on. And outside of Washington.

I don't have words to describe what I'm witnessing right now. Immediately until further notice, flight operations in the national airspace system by United States Civil Aircraft and Born Civil and Military Aircraft are. prohibited. Freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward and freedom will be defended. One of the world trade towers has collapsed and fallen. I've seen anything like this. Tuesday, September 11th, 2001. This is Glenn Beck. Dateline, New York. And one of the most audacious attacks ever, terrorist hijacked two airliners. Crash them into the World Trade Center in a coordinated series of blows today that brought down the twin 110-story towers.

Thousands may be dead. Fifty-eight thousand people work at the World Trade Center. Let you know I love you when I'm second. I'm telling you to know that I love you. One plane, United Flight 93, crashed. north of Somerset County Airport. A small airport 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh. United said that flight, Boeing 757. That is the news of this day, September 11th, 2001. It is September 11th, 2020.

It has been 19 years, and what a schlogue it has been, how much has changed, from having to stand in line at airports, which we never did, taking our shoes off. All of the crazy things, all of the men and women lost, all of the treasure that was lost in this war that doesn't seem to end. The fighting back and forth from the left and the right. right to where we don't even know who we are anymore. Americans came together on 9-11, and it didn't matter who you were. It didn't matter who you voted for. All of a sudden, we were united because we believed in something.

We believed in something elusive, something that we had taken for granted up until that day and that is who we are and what we are and what we stand for. Now in our streets, police chiefs are retiring, the Detroit police chief said, Detroit's in total anarchy because leadership is folding to protest pressure. China is talking about today cutting our access to drugs. I don't know. That's probably. more important to talk about and work on than arguing back and forth.

We knew how close we were. And we've all been surprised on how resilient the economy in this nation has been. Why? Because of its people. I had a friend in my home last night. He's probably 60. He's worked his whole life. He's tried to be fair.

He's tried to be honest. he was wiped out in 2008 but he didn't declare bankruptcy he instead took 10 years to pay it all off because of his integrity he's a hard hard working man and he said now just as I was starting to get back on my feet now this has happened and it's wiped me out

and he said Glenn I I don't know what to do but I feel like I've been cheated my whole life I heard him And I heard so many Americans Through him We've played by the rules

We've believed in something And now that something is being taken away Headline today Has America's Second Civil War already started? Headline today, September 11th Series of Wildfires May be coordinated and planned Headline today

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because of the right-wing extremists that are going to steal the election. She said unless there's a Biden-Harris landslide there will be violence in the streets and will be at a constitutional impasse. A letter was written to America this week. I want you to listen to the words. She warned America that we're at the very edge of a precipice. America, you're at the very edge of the precipice.

Please wake up. Take hold. Fight for your country. Be proud of your roots. Uphold your values, she wrote. stand for your flag and your anthem defend your history don't relent in the face of those who seek to rewrite your history and serve their narrative and justify the destruction of your nation you have so much to cherish and protect for your sake and ours she doesn't live in america she lives

in switzerland now she says she's an american at heart she had a u.s flag and her childhood bedroom. She spent a lot of time in America. She said, you look at all the terrorist attacks that have happened in Europe over the past 19 years. They've shaken Europe to the core. Our society has been completely infiltrated. And in the U.S., we're watching you from afar, seeing that the far left that is

aligned itself completely with the people that share. the ideology of the people who brought down the world trade center. Please wake up quoting, it's vital for our future, not only of America, but the Western civilization as whole. The woman who wrote that, the woman who is an American at heart, who's warning us is Osama bin Laden's sister.

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Do we have the audio from this? It surprised a lot of people. and boy, oh boy, the networks are very upset at the people that were in the stands. It was the NFL kickoff between Kansas City and Houston, and they locked arms in unity as part of the protest against racism. And here's what happened. Ladies and gentlemen, please join us in a moment of silence dedicated to the ongoing fight for equality in our country. Okay, everybody's silent, everybody's respectful.

It's good. Everybody's locking arms. Thank you. Now, they did the national anthem, lift every voice and sing, which is a great song, written by a Republican, by the way. Written by a Republican, it's known as the Black National Anthem. It's a great, great song. but as a friend of mine said, and Stu, you may be able to verify this.

My friend said that his wife had sworn off the NFL. Said, I'm not going to watch football anymore. She's a big Dallas Cowboy fan. He said, you're going to be watching it. She said, no, I'm not. And she hasn't joined in, you know, but he said he watched the NFL. He said 40 minutes in, I had to turn it off. He said, because it wasn't football, it was a lecture.

He said it was all about. Now, this is the game, I think, that was played over the weekend. No, last night. Okay, well, he told me this yesterday afternoon. So he saw maybe a preseason. There was no preseason this year. So maybe he was watching college. Maybe college.

I don't know. He said, but it was a nonstop lecture. Yeah, I mean, I actually, now I've watched the NBA and Major League Baseball as well. I mean, the NFL was much better, I think, than those other sports. They, you know, there was one person on the Chiefs that took a knee for the anthem. I mean, you listen to that. that was kind of promoted as like, well, they're booing the moment of unity. Like, it seemed like they're booing the moment, the people who,

the few people who were kind of like yelling in the middle of the moment of silence is what it sounded like to me. I mean, I don't know. No, I think there were some people probably that were booing, you know, the general life. The general Black Lives Matter, you know. Possibly, yeah. All of that, all of that stuff. I mean, I came up with a great solution to this problem, though. Yeah.

Start about 20 minutes late. And then when they start going, let's go ask Bob Tomblum, about his opinion about racism, you just go blup, blip, blip. And then it's over and you don't see any of it. I found it to be a good solution. I find it interesting that you don't see soccer doing this. Hockey is standing up against it. No, they don't seem to get real backlash.

They're destroying our tradition of football, basketball, and baseball. This is the Glenn Beck program. That's what this is all about. All right. Simply safe. Long time ago. You know, you get burglars. coming around, you know, sometimes three, four times, you know, a day.

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It's actually niece. She wrote an open letter to America. and I want to read more of it because I find this amazing. Now, this is Osama bin Laden's niece. The bin Laden family, you know, they are very successful. Bin Laden, Osama bin Laden was really the black sheep of the family. I don't know if I would still carry around the bin Laden name myself, but that's such a Western perspective.

But she's written this letter. And she lives in Switzerland. She is known in Switzerland as somebody who wears a MAGA hat all the time. So she's wearing it. Really? Yeah. This letter says in full, with President Trump at America's helm, she stands a chance of restoring her principles, pride, independence, and true place in the world as a beacon for liberty and hope for all. To me, this is what makes America great again.

looking back at your country's foundation and preserving what truly made it great, but also knowing that the best is yet to come. All of the achievements will be torpedoed with a bin Laden Harris presidency, and the dream of America's enemies to see her weak and on her knees will be fulfilled. Probably a Biden Harris presidency, right? Yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, Biden Harris. She said, stand for your flag and your answer. them. Defend your history. Don't relent in the face of those who seek to rewrite it and serve their

narrative and justify the destruction of your nation. You have so much to cherish and protect for your sake and ours. She said Trump has made the world a safer place since taking office. I'm quoting. To name a few achievements, he stood up to China. He's kept us out of new wars, made Europe comply with their NATO requirements, solidified ties with Israel, overturned the disastrous Iran deal, obliterated ISIS, took down other key terrorists and facilitated a historic peace deal between Israel and the UAE. Now, if anybody in the media would ever report this story, they'd say, yeah, well, look, of course, Osama bin Laden's niece, his family is all for Donald Trump. What is she saying here? She's saying obliterated ISIS, got out of the Iran deal, has ties with

Israel, made historic peace with Israel. And that doesn't sound like her brother at all. I mean, her uncle. She said his administration has also made Christian persecution worldwide, a top priority with the State Department instituting the ministerial to advance religious freedom, the first of its kind. Trump shows that he protects America and us in Europe by extension from foreign threats by obliterating the terrorists at the root before they get a chance to strike.

Wow. I mean, it's amazing. That could have come from Kaylee McInney. Yeah. It's a it's been Laden's niece. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah.

It's really amazing. And I honestly, I, I, I want to try to reach out to, to, you know, liberals and Democrats, not progressive Marxists, but liberals, people who, who, who, who, who, believe in the constitution. They just may believe in a bigger welfare state than, you know, a typical conservative. Somebody that feels the country is in trouble and you don't like Donald Trump. I get it. I get it.

And even if we vote differently, I get it. But I will, we, we have to have conversations with liberals and with Democrats and just say, how are we missing each other on this? this one. How are we, because the, the country is, is being sold down the river. I can't believe it's only conservatives that still believe in the flag and the military. Did, did, did you hear what happened in California? In California, I think this is, this is who we are. 300 campers were out in one of the state parks and they were trapped. by the fire. And the California fire said, there's no hope. We can't get in. It's way too dangerous. There's no way for us to rescue you guys. 300, 300 campers. And they said, jump in the lake to survive.

You've got to just go into the lake, put your head underwater. It's the only way you guys are going to make it. Well, then army pilots found out about it. And so the U.S. military said, we'll go in. California fire said it was too dangerous. The military crews go in. There was zero visibility in the canyon. Zero visibility. The overload with people on these helicopters was also really, really dangerous. Are people going to overload it?

Is it going to crash? None of it happened. They went in with zero visibility. they went to the lake and they rescued 300 people. They went in and then they got survivors and went out and then went back in again, got more survivors and got out. This is who we are. We are people that we don't care.

They didn't card people. Who are you voting for? They didn't care. We're Americans. And we have such little pride right now that we're not even talking. about the heroes like these guys, absolute heroes that remembered we're all Americans. And Americans don't leave Americans behind. We don't say, oh, it's too dangerous.

I don't hold this against the fire, you know, the California fire because they don't have military experience and heloes like the federal government does. So I'm not saying anything bad. I'm not calling the firefighters anything bad. I'm just saying we do things in America. We do things. We've spent a lot of time, a lot of money, and we have a lot of,

we've shed a lot of blood to be able to do amazing things. Can we step and just recognize it for a minute? That's a great idea. I mean, I kept coming back to that thought today, as we sit here on 9-11 and the 19th anniversary, all this anti-cop stuff we've been taken in lately is it kind of put you in a different place on that, doesn't it? Obviously, I think this audience is, you know, generally pro-police and doesn't put up with that nonsense.

But it's been so commonplace over the past few months to just basically say all cops are bad, all cops A-C-A-B. And you know what? And that's not what that stands for. We made the other, we went too far the other way on September 11th. We said all cops are good. No, not all cops are good. Not all cops are bad. cops military everything it's a section of society all cops are us they're us some are good

some are bad you root out the bad ones and you elevate the good ones we're not doing that anymore instead it's just all cops are bad all cops i mean remember people all over the country were wearing like NYPD t-shirts and hats couldn't keep them in stock yeah and now We're told they're just these evil people that basically just show up everywhere and just try to kill minorities. Well, now people are losing their job just for supporting cops online. What? Yeah. There's been a couple of professors who have said good things about police officers.

You got fired for it. Well, wow. Have we come that far that you can't even say anything good about police? You can't. I remember the 4th of July celebrations that people were pissed off about. You can't celebrate the nation anymore. No. Yeah.

No, no. I'm saying no. I know you believe this too. No, not on my watch. Right. Not on my watch. And it's, look, next week we are going to tell you and outline how America could very well be in civil war by Christmas. It is being plotted and planned and either side could start it.

The crazy right-wing groups, which I think there's maybe 12 members of. But they are just as interested in destroying America. I mean, Richard Spencer is a socialist. So he is just as motivated to destroy America as the far left is. So there are all kinds of people. And all it needs is just a little shove. But we have got to find the people who we don't agree with that we can actually talk to and say,

we've got to keep our heads. We've got to keep our heads and remember who we are. Eric Weinstein, you know who he is, right? He's the lefty professor up in Oregon that was, I mean, he's as left as they come. He tweeted after the fire story, he tweeted, I miss heroic official behavior. I miss heroic official behavior.

I also miss rule breaking for the greater good. Can you imagine being abandoned in a lake and seeing a chopper with an American flag coming to pick you up piloted by actual Americans who remember what the hell that even means rather than whatever it is that's tearing us apart. That should be our goal. I call on you to reflect on the last 19 years and where we were and who we were. and what we knew to be true.

And then look at what has torn us apart. And are there things with people that you don't vote the same way? Are there neighbors that are just as afraid of talking to you as you might be to them because they think you're an extremist that's just going to yell at them or you think they're an extremist that's just going to yell at you? Well, some of them might. But we're all feeling how close we are to the edge. Reach out to anybody you think.

And don't try to win. Just say, we got to keep our heads. I don't care how you vote. We got to keep our heads. Because if it's a fair election, we'll be okay. But the way this is being set up, it is being set up to cause people on both sides to feel like it was unfair. and this will be our undoing. This election will be our undoing if we don't remember who we are.

So take today to remember where we were, what we went through, how many lives have been lost to protect this country and to save our principles and our constitution. The treasure that we have spent and the blood that we have all spent over the last 19 years, It cannot be for not today because we're all pissed and not talking to each other. Remember who you were on September 12th. Remember the 9-12 project. Remember who you were the next day.

You were kind. You were generous. We were in it together. Race didn't matter. status didn't matter religion, politics, none of it mattered because in the end we all realized

we're Americans find those Americans that still remember what the hell that means Pat, thanks for joining us, Pat Gray Unleashed. You can find it wherever you get your podcasts

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Well, they monetized a clip from our show and put a warning. to us that it had objectionable visuals and objectionable, objectionable material. Now, we agree. But we agree with that. Right. Analysis, yes. Not false, just disturbing stuff. Okay.

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simply safebeck.com. Last year on September 11th, we had the author of then a new book, The Only Plain in the Sky. Jared Graff. Jared had put together one of the most incredible books. It was all in real time and it was all quotes from people be them, you know, people in the military or the government

or celebrities or just regular people, police officers, firefighters, and put the day in context of what people were saying at the time. It's really an incredible book on 9-11. Well,

we had the conversation about 9-11 and his book last year, I wanted to have him on because he listened to everyone and went through all of the comments on 9-11 and put them in order. Does he see those kinds of uniting comments even possible in today's America? Jared Graff, the author of the only lane in the sky as we remember today, the 19th anniversary of 9-11. Didn't he said? Glenn Beck program. Oh, geez.

I don't know what is wrong with me. I'm sorry. It's Jarrett. A Garrett. Gosh. Garrett. Valerie Jarrett on the mind? Perhaps.

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11, Garrett. Thanks, Glenn. It's always a pleasure to talk to you, even on a somber day like this. Yeah. First of all, your book, as we talked last year, absolutely incredible, really, truly incredible. The way you, I mean, it's called an oral history of 9-11, but the way you put this together, can you talk about it just a little bit?

Yeah. So the book is the voices of 480 Americans as they lived that day, sort of firsthand from the pilot of Air Force One to firefighters at the World Trade Center to school children to, you know, survivors in the tower, survivors in the tower, survivors at the Pentagon. and even the Navy commander in the White House bunker with Vice President Cheney who asks for authority that day to shoot down the hijacked airliners. And we all know the story of 9-11. But I think, you know, this is a 19th anniversary now. We are having people who were born after 9-11 voting in the president. election this fall for the first time. And so we're seeing this day slip from memory into history.

I mean, literally people voting in this election who will have only read about 9-11 in high school history books. And I fear that the story that we tell as history doesn't capture the day for those of us who lived through it. And so the goal for this book was not to tell sort of the neat and clean and simple history of 9-11, where we talk about it as the first attack began at 846 that morning. There were four planes, the Pentagon, the Twin Towers, Shanksville, and the whole thing was over 102 minutes later at 1029 with the collapse of the second tower. Because, Glenn, as you remember, for those of us who were alive that day, that's not the day any of us experienced. No. You know, we didn't know when the attack.

tax began. We didn't know when they were over. We didn't understand what transpired, even as it transpired. And we didn't know what came next. I mean, part of what you have to understand about that day as history is the fear and the confusion and the chaos and the trauma. And the thought of what might come on the afternoon of September 11th. What might come on? What might come on? 9-12, what might come in October, what might come in 2002. And when you look at how our country reacted to that day, we weren't reacting to sort of the facts of 9-11. We were reacting to the emotions of 9-11.

And so the goal for this book, the goal motion of the day, not the facts of the day. If I remember, right, one of my favorite guys that is part of the book is the Air Force One pilot, who is now taking the president someplace entirely different, and the president doesn't want to go there. Yeah, I mean, that remains one of the most dramatic parts of that day is, you know, the President Bush was reading, as we all remember, in that Emma Booker Elementary School classroom that morning, rushed aboard Air Force One. Air Force One races into the sky.

And President Bush wants to go back to Washington. He understands that the most important thing he can do as a leader that day is to be back at his desk in the Oval Office, reassuring the country that everything is going to be okay. The military doesn't want to bring him back to Washington. There are still, they believe at that point, still dozens of other hijacked airliners. that they fear are still in the sky.

They don't know what is happening. And so they don't want to bring him back. The Secret Service doesn't want to bring him back. And White House Chief of Staff Andy Card is on board with the pilot and the President and the Secret Service detail. And they're all having this sort of incredible dance aboard the plane that morning because the president,

you know, doesn't want to give a direct order to return to Washington because he's not sure it would be followed. And the Secret Service and Air Force One, the pilot of Air Force One, Colonel Mark Tillman, you know, they don't know whether they would follow the direct order of the president that morning because their job is to protect him. That day is to protect him, to keep him alive. And so sort of everyone aboard the plane is very careful to stay sort of just short of the,

I order this plane back to Washington. the only thing that I remember as weakness of that day I mean we were all freaked out we didn't know what was going on and we were all afraid I mean I don't know if you felt this way but I felt like we're at war we don't even know who we're at war with we could be over we could be oh if they could pull this off what else do they have plan and we could be over quickly and the only moment that I saw anything that wasn't, that fed into that was President Bush. Remember he did that live thing? I think it was like a concrete wall. It looked like he was in a bunker and you're kind of like, holy mother, we are in trouble. He's underground.

Yep. You know, he was raised first to Barksdale Air Force Base in Treesport, Louisiana, then on to Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha, Nebraska, which, you know, part of remembering this 9-11 story is, you know, we think of 9-11 as part of our modern world. I mean, it is probably as clear a dividing line between the 21st century and the 20th as we have. Yeah.

But, you know, you look at the outfits that day, you look at the technology that day, and that was really the 1990s. And, you know, that the White House is, trying to manage this with two-way pagers. You know, there are no blackberries at the... Oh, my gosh, not even blackberries. You know, there's no email aboard Air Force One.

Aboard Air Force One that day, they have, they don't even have cable TV, so, or satellite TV. So they are picking up local TV news stations on a rabbit ears antenna aboard Air Force One. And so as they're flying around the country, they pass over a major city and get some TV coverage and then pass away from it and the TV coverage fades out. And part of the reason that the president ends up in Omaha, Nebraska that day is that's literally the only place outside of Washington in September 2001 where the president could participate in a secure video teleconference. I mean, now the president travels. with a briefcase that you can plug into any Ethernet Jack anywhere in the world, and it's an instant secure teleconference.

And that day, they have to fly them all the way to Omaha to the bunker of the Strategic Air Command to sort of even be able to talk to other government officials. Wow. Wow. So let me just take a quick break for a minute. And when we come back, I want to talk to you about, you know, you said there was a dividing line. between the centuries. And it's beginning to feel more and more like that was the beginning of the dividing line of the promise of tomorrow and of an American tomorrow and now what seems to be a possible suicide of America.

And I want to talk to you about that because the unity that we felt is no longer with us. And we're not all rushing out to buy a flag to put it on our doorway. And we are a vastly different nation 19 years later. And we would be horrified if we could see into the future on that day and said, this is what our country is going to look like in 19 years. We all would have banded together and said, no, no, we're not going there. Is it possible that we can be brought back and coalesce around things we have mutually in common?

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it's out in paperback this week yeah yeah um it's a just a tremendous book um but let's talk about what you call the the grief americans no longer share yeah so you know part of what makes this such a strange and solemn anniversary the 19th, September 11th this year in 2020, is this sense that, you know, we are living through another, we hope, once a century unfolding disaster right now. The COVID pandemic has killed, you know, has a death toll many, many multiples that of 9-11. It's a national event in the same way that 9-11 was. It's, you know, dominated our news coverage.

And yet our country feels so different today than it did after 9-11 when we came together. And, you know, President Bush's approval rating in the wake of 9-11 reached the highest approval rating a president who's ever had. It was like 92 percent. I mean, which, you know, to put that in context, that is, you know, literally double the current president's approval rating. Yeah, no, it's, it's almost dictator style approval ratings. You'll see, you know, Saddam Hussein, he won with 98% of the vote.

And you're like, yeah, of course, everybody had a gun to their head. Yeah. And, you know, that, you know, Democrats were right there with President Bush in the wake of 9-11, you know, as much as everyone. I mean, you know, we all remember President Bush going to Ground Zero that Saturday and speaking with the bullhorn to the firefighters and the rescue workers and the construction workers. And, you know, they shout, you know, we can't hear you over the din at Ground Zero. And he turns around and shouts, well, I can hear you and the whole world is going to hear us soon enough. and that that was that rallying cry, the united we stand belief, the flags, you know, the candlelight vigils, all of that sort of collectivized our grief in a way that we have really only

experienced a couple of times in the past. You know, you, you're a great student of history yourself and, you know, we have these sort of civic moments in the country, you know, the founding in 1776, you know, the civil. war and the way that that taught us about sort of death and rebirth and sacrifice. And then we had 9-11. And now 19 years later, we're in the midst of this pandemic that is doing a lot more dividing than it is uniting. Why? Well, I think there are a couple of things that stand out for this year. The first is, you know, it literally feels. different. You know, part of what made, part of what allowed us to have the collective

grief after 9-11 were those community gatherings, the sense that, you know, the candlelight vigils, the church services, the memorial services, whereas we are now in a pandemic that is actually isolating us. I mean, literally it is robbed us of the ability to, hug friends, to hug loved ones, to sort of be in groups and share that grief together. The other thing I think that really stands out just from a sort of spiritual side is the extent to which, you know, 9-11 had a certain purity and finality to it. You know, we, we understood that innocent people had died, attacked by evil, and we understood the breadth of that attack, whereas today, you know, there is a sense in our country that, you know, we don't really know where this goes next. I mean, there are potentially, you know, a hundred thousand

people alive in America today, you know, a population roughly the size of South Bend, Indiana, who will not be alive by the end of the year. And that sort of imposes a sense of uncertainty and nervousness that we didn't have in 2001. I mean, we were talking a few minutes ago about the fear of what came next. Right. Like, we would have had a very different reaction after 9-11 if we were standing there on 9-11 and sort of knew in our gut that between September and the end of the year, 100,000 more Americans would die in terror attack.

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and coming together over COVID-19 and how it's not happening. And, you know, our guest said, well, there's a couple of reasons. the masks and social distancing of being locked up, you know, we're not with each other. And Stu and I were talking about we, we have a few new people that have joined us here on the stage. I have met them. I work with them every day.

I would not recognize them on the street if they didn't have a mask on because they're wearing masks the whole time. And I have no idea what they look like. I mean, you don't know people in the mask. You lose that connection. But I also seem to think there's a big, difference in our media than there was in 2000. Social media was not a thing. And that's ever so destructive. And the other is we're an election. We're three years away from an election. And gee,

when did that unity start going away? Hmm. About the election time. All right. I want to talk a little bit about what's happening in California. In California, you know, we know the Nancy Pelosi, you know, blow my hair out scandal where she just called up a salon and said, hey, I need you to, you know, blow dry my hair and make me look nice. And the owner of the salon was so upset because, wait a minute, I can't open my salon, but you can just come in and get a haircut. And we've got another situation like that. This is Danielle Rabkin. She is the owner of the CrossFit Golden Gate Gym.

And I want you to hear her story. She's got this unbelievable gym where she could social distance people by 30 feet and have them wear masks. She's not allowed to open, but the state has opened the state gyms. Welcome to the program, Danielle. Good morning. So tell me, tell me what's happening in San Francisco. It's been pretty unbelievable. It's been the hardest six months of my life, pretty closed still.

I don't know that the rest of the country realizes we're almost still entirely on lockdown. The only things open are outdoor dining, indoor retail. I think that's pretty much it. San Francisco has incredible COVID metrics. When I checked yesterday morning, we only had 88 COVID deaths since March. We have never had more than 38 COVID ICU patients at a time since day one. Our hospitals were so empty in the early days waiting for the surge that never came, which is wonderful. But we were cutting back nursing hours, doctors shifts, giving salary cuts because hospitals were bleeding money.

So we've been in really good shape to flatten the curve. And somewhere along the line, flattening the curve turned into flattening the local economy because we just kept everything closed. And my personal life and livelihood has just been completely burned to the ground. I've spent over eight years building this business, and I'm watching it just completely fall apart before my eyes. San Francisco has experienced a mass exodus. people are leaving left and right if they're going to be locked down, they want more space, they want cheaper rent.

But as other parts of the country continue to open up, why do people want to be here? Of course they don't. Tech can work remote. There's no reason to stay somewhere where you can't get a haircut or go to the gym. You know, it's just been so extremely frustrating. Even the Tony Fauci's of the world say that prolonged closures will cause irreparable damage. So it's just been mind-blowing to me why this has been going on. Okay, so tell me first, the state has opened their gyms.

Are these publicly financed gyms or are these gyms for state workers and city workers? These are publicly financed gyms, taxpayer dollars. So I know with certainty that at the end of the June, sorry, at the end of June, police station gyms were closed. A good friend of mine is a police officer, and I know that his gym was shut. So I really hesitated to build an outdoor gym in my neighborhood. The streets are not clean here. The air is smoky.

It's just not a great setup for outdoor activity, which is what we're moving towards. But I finally bit the bullet and did it. And recently I saw a couple of police officers at the end of my block, and I'm thinking, all right, I know that their gym is shut. I got this. I'm going to get them to come work out on at my, outdoor gym with me. So two weeks ago, I go up to them and I'm chit-chatting and I say, hey, what are you guys doing for workouts these days? And they tell me that their station gym has

reopened. And I about fell over. I couldn't believe it. I found out that their gym has reopened. We reached out to a friend of mine that is an attorney, works out of a courthouse in the city. And I say, does this set a precedent for me? What does this mean? They told me Cal OSHA has inspected their gyms. Can I get a Cal OSHA inspection? And he says, oh, yeah, I know that paralegals have been working out at the Hall of Justice, and I couldn't do things right now. I could not believe it here. I am business owners like me still shooting out at indoor gyms funded by tech.

So down to the Hall of Justice to check out these gyms, and I see notices on the door. It's open since July 1st. Oh, my gosh. Limited occupancy, new COVID rules, new sign-in sheets. So we send it trying to reach out through a city attorney, through my supervisor's office, through the Office of Economic Workforce and Development. Why is this happening? Why am I still closed?

Does this mean I can reopen? Does this set a precedent for me? Very clear, I don't want to see these gyms shut down, but what are the implications for gym owners like myself? Right. Because the PPP money is long gone, and it probably didn't help. San Francisco, I can't even imagine what you are paying in rent

for a 4,700 square foot gym. No, you don't want to know. I know. It was unbelievable to me to see articles about people throughout the country having windfalls with the CARES Act $600 a week. And, you know, there being debate over them wanting to incentivize people to go back to work. And I'm thinking $600 a week doesn't even pay for the rent at my one-bedroom apartment.

And there are people, you know, gathering savings from that. This isn't right. San Francisco is extremely expensive. There are businesses across the country that got the same PPP loans that we got, they weren't ever closed. Maybe they were closed for one month, and we've been closed for six months to stay closed. They can start paying my rent, because as you said, it's not cheap. I'm many, many tens of thousands of dollars in debt to my landlord now because of this. So if I may voice what I think some Americans may be saying, and that is, why would we pay

for why would we take my tax dollars that I'm working hard for and send them to a state that is absolutely out of control in fire on fire literally and figuratively and they're screwing their own people I don't know why but they're screwing their own people and I I think Americans really feel for people who are trapped in this but it's kind of like you know, this is what everybody in San Francisco voted for. I get it, and I've heard that a lot, but the reality of the situation is that small business owners like myself, we are where we are.

People voted in who they voted in. This is the situation now, and we need help. I've never, admittedly, I have not followed local politics, and that's my own fault, and you sure and I better believe it's the learning experience. but the decision makers right now aren't just the local politicians. It's the Department of Public Health. And I don't know how your Department of Public Health can say that working outside, working out outside is safer for you.

I mean, the entire state is on fire. Smoke has to be, I mean, California wildfire smoke was at my home in Idaho last weekend. Idaho. It's got to be in San Francisco. Glenn, I completely agree with you, and I've been trying to push that up the chain for weeks. I have human feces on the sidewalk next to my outdoor gym. We are dealing with extremely poor air quality.

I've been trying to push for an indoor reopening for a very long time, and my voice just isn't loud enough. In an interesting turn of events, two weeks ago, of course, as soon as I found out about these courthouse gyms reopening, you know, we've been pushing this up to change with supervisors, the Office of Economic Workforce and Development. Just yesterday, the public health officers announced that they were shutting down the city gyms. And I want to be very clear that was not the goal.

But within minutes, they've announced that gym's hair salons and tattoos can now reopen on Monday. It is unbelievable to me. Maybe it shouldn't be so unbelievable. that it took something like this to get it to happen. So wait, wait, wait. So they are letting you open on Monday? Because of the discovery of these city gyms, they just announced yesterday that they're letting all gyms open on Monday.

Well, congratulations on that. I mean, I don't know. We're living in a time now where many of these people are rulers. they're not they're not just politicians they're not people that were protecting our rights and they're just rulers and this nancy pelosi thing at her you know hair salon it did are people in san francisco waking up and saying wait a minute this is this is or are they still just as crazy it's a good question i can't answer for you but it certainly has not felt like a democracy to me lately it's very difficult to feel like your voice isn't heard.

I'm curious to know if the mayor has been using these gyms, these police station gyms, if her name is in the logbooks, we put out a records request, and I don't know if they'll try to keep those names public, but I think it'll be very interesting to see if her name is on there between March and September. Danielle, I feel for you. I mean, I live in Texas and things are still crazy here. Not like that, but even in Texas.

And there is, you know, when you have about 600 people in 10 days in a country of 350 million dying in those 10 days, that's the last 10, I think, has been about 600 people nationwide. $350 million and we are shutting and destroying our economy, it makes no sense. And you have to ask yourself, what's the real agenda here? Because this is doing far more damage to our children, to our psyche, and to our economy. People like you. I mean, how long is it going to take for you to recover? Yeah, I don't know if I will, to be honest, then it's devastating to me.

I can tell you that San Francisco is letting the local economy burn to the ground. I don't know that anywhere else is as severe here where reopenings can be done safely, slowly and cautiously, they need to start moving forward. Thank you so much, Danielle. I appreciate you speaking out. Thanks for coming on the program. It's not just San Francisco. It is the overwhelming.

This is Cloward and Piven. This is overwhelming the system. They're doing the same thing in New York, just burning. it to the ground. All right, shave secret. Shaving's a hassle. I hate shaving. I mean, when I was a kid, I couldn't wait to shave.

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but both meanings are accurate. Both meanings are accurate on this. That's confirmed, scientifically. Yeah. You can go to shop. Dot blazemedia.com, is that right? Where do you go exactly for the t-shirt? I know, I know stewdoesmerch.com gets you to at the store.

So you can try that. Stu doesmerch.com. And I think it is. You got to go to click on Glenn Beck. Yeah, click on Glenn Beck. It's under mine, which I don't. I mean, the old Glenn would wear that t-shirt all the time. I'd be wearing it now.

be wearing it out. I'd be wearing it to bed. I'd be wearing that. I would have ordered 10 of these t-shirts. I think we're coming up with one that doesn't have the phrase up at the top. I can't even say the phrase. But it's accurate if she's getting, you know, blow-dried, you know, or getting her hair. She's just making a request to the hairdresser. It's a big deal. And she's saying, also saying that to all of the hairdressers and all of the businesses in California and San Francisco. That is how this works. That's how it works. That's how it works.

So those are available at shop. Dot blazemedia.com. Just click on the Glenn store and you'll find it. You'll find it there. You'll find it there. That's going to be pretty interesting. I can't wait to see the first person walking around with that thing. Oh, I know.

You got to take a... If you are in California, anywhere, you're anywhere. You have to take a picture of you. in that t-shirt. Because Sabo made these posters. He's this graffiti artist. He put him up in San Francisco, and he said liberals in San Francisco were like,

that's the greatest thing I've ever seen. I mean, it doesn't seem to offend liberals because they get it. Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I saw a letter to the editor in a small newspaper up in the northeast that has a very different perspective than mine. And I want to read it to you and address it. Because there's a divide in America that is now as wide as the Grand Canyon.

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My liberal friends say they sometimes try, but they can't tolerate it long. Ever since William F. Buckley, who was at least erudite, I've considered it a citizen's obligation to tune in, Partly because I'm a veteran and like many veterans, I take it as an ongoing obligation to support and defend this country and everything it claims to stand it stands for. Buckley promoted traditional right-leaning ideology, a small portion of which I agreed with. The Fox backed voice of Main Channel now airs Glenn Beck in the morning and Rush Limbaugh in the afternoon. If you want to know the wellspring for most of the ideas that are three, to divide and destroy this country and make you anxious and depressed, ideas that unquestionably influence the tweets and chaotic outbursts of our president,

then listen for yourself, but expect to be shocked. Now, he has set himself up as somebody who is open mind, he's open-minded, he listens to the other side because it's a citizen's duty. I do that every day. I listen to the New York Times podcast. I listen to NPR. I read the Huffington Post. I read the New York Times.

I can't really watch cable news anymore. But I can't watch Fox either. I try to be open-minded just like you, Art. But now I'm being accused of a well-spring of ideas that are threatening to divide. If you are a new listener of mine, if you are somebody who is on the left, I want you to know. Here are my ideas. All men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain and inalienable rights. Among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

And governments are instituted among men to protect those rights. I will stand in battle shoulder to shoulder with anyone who agrees with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I believe in the free market. It's what built America and built. America and built the world. I will stand shoulder to shoulder with somebody who says higher taxes, but I believe in the the constitution and the free market.

Anybody that believes that children belong to their parents, not to the community, I believe I will stand with you. I will stand with you if you, that's no, that's at the bottom of the hour. I will stand with you. if you are someone who is voting the other way. You say, I can't vote for Donald Trump. That's fine.

I don't hate you. I don't hate you. I don't understand it. If you're an educated person, I really don't understand it. Just seeing who the other side is in line with. If you look at the truth of BLM from their own website, they tell you that they are trying to destroy.

capitalism. They are trying to overthrow the Western values. They are, they are working to destroy the nuclear family. Those are their words, not mine. And I gladly will stand on a divide and say, yes, if that's what you're working for, then I don't stand with you. I can't stand with you. During the past few years after Beck finally jumped on the Trump train, the rhetoric from these two has grown increasingly spiteful, divisive, and untrue. A major portion of the thousands of lies now attributed to Trump originated there. With us? Really?

Could you give me one example? Every day raises the bar on dangerous, probably illegal speech in terms of inciting violence and riots. I don't believe art's even a real person. as a former servicemen, I realize that rhetoric like theirs would never be tolerated out in the open in the military. No, because you are not an individual in the military. You belong to the state. The minute you sign up or the minute you enter the military, you no longer have an individual identity. So, yeah, you can't say those things.

But here in America, again, Art, it's the First Amendment. it's speech, press, questioning your government, asking them to answer, assembling, protesting, all of it. Not riots, not violence, not burning cities down. Here's an up-to-date synopsis. Democrats, liberals, and inclusive, open-minded folk are lumped together in two words. The left. That is not true.

How many times have I said, In fact, just on today's show, Democrats, liberals, as long as you are not trying to destroy the country, as long as you are not part of the movement that is cheering on lawlessness, and you want the free market, you want the Bill of Rights, and you will stand and protect those things, you are not a member of the left. liberals, I don't have a problem with liberals. I've had a problem with progressives because progressives have by definition, as Hillary Clinton said, the early 20th century progressive. The early 20th century progressive was a nightmare, was for eugenics, was for sterilization, was for state control, was for totalitarianism without the revolution. That's what they were progress. for. I got a problem with that. If you don't understand what the definition of a progressive is, well, that's not my fault. That's your fault. But liberals, people who differ on tax policy and welfare and things like that, no. You're not an enemy of the state or an enemy of mine. This hateful faction, it's claimed, are almost all secretly members of Antifa. Have I said that, Stu? Anything like that, that Democrats are all secretly members of Antivone. No. And are predominantly Marxists. Well, I will tell you this. I've never said anything like that. I don't believe that. In fact, I'm pleading for Democrats to stand up. It's been a hostile takeover of the Democratic Party. I don't believe you're Marxist, but if you don't stand up, at some point, you are going to be labeled a Marxist. You are a Marxist because you're allowing it to take over your party and your

ideology. I mean, this is not exactly a reach. You have a guy who has explained multiple dozens of times that he is a socialist and he keeps coming in second in your primaries. So, I mean, like, it's not exactly like there's no people that support this ideology in the party. He goes on. There are daily warnings with Limbaugh and Beck that the entire educational system from grade school through college has been co-opted by a radical leftist agenda. Art, are you blind? Are you blind? Are you seeing what's happening in colleges?

Are you seeing liberal, very liberal Democrat, voted Democrat their whole life? Some of them actually considered themselves kind of pro-Marxism for a while that have said, oh my gosh, this is completely out of control. And they've left the university on their own. Have you noticed that, Art? as to the recent unrest arising out of the latest spate of police killings of black men, the Black Lives Matter Movement.

That's the summary of that story. Interesting one. The Black Lives Matter movement and the standoffs against the militia of patriots in pickup trucks bearing AK-47s beneath Trump pants banners, Russian Beck, define this as a biblical battle as clear as black and white or good versus evil. They often use the evil word for the left and not infrequently claim that all of us evil ones are negative on God.

Well, if you are evil, yeah, you are, you, I mean, by definition, you're not standing with God. I am not accusing Democrats of being that. But Marxists, yes. Those people who are attacking our churches literally, yes. Those people who say the church and the belief of God must be eradicated. Yes.

The people who call for individual rights to be abolished. So we all are told exactly who to be, where to live, what to do at all times. Yes. Man is granted certain unalienable rights. by God, anyone who fights against those rights. Yes, you would be on the side of evil. Doesn't make you evil unless you really know it. Art, this is the problem here.

I'm trying to be very kind. You seem to be an intelligent person. you seem to be someone who knows a lot of the stories that are going on. How you are seeing something so incredibly one-sided is beyond me, that you are parroting all of the fictions of BLM, of Antifa. I mean, it is to the point now to where, Joe Biden came out and said, no one's talking about defunding the police except Donald Trump.

What? What are you even talking about? If you are this deluded, I pray that the scales fall from your eyes. I know who Donald Trump is. I know what he's done bad. I know what he's done good. Do you?

Can you recognize the truth anymore? and on either side say, I like these things, I don't like these things. I believe these things. I don't believe these things. Or are we all just in lockstep zombies, sheep, that agree with everything right down the party line? Because you're claiming that Donald Trump is. is a dictator and a fascist that just is just itching for his moment to take over. In fact, I want to, let me break for one minute and I want to come back and I want to play some audio of a teacher and talking to their college class about how Donald Trump is

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And Art, I would invite you to pee on the show. I saw his letter to the editor in the Mountain Desert Islander, and he has a very different point of view than I do. Let me ask you, let me play this audio art, and I would love to know how you view this. Listen to this as a teacher. Teaching your class is not a political class. Listen to what she's saying to the students. This was recorded by one of the students or their parents. listen for four years because that's what people say give him a chance give him a chance

or had four friggin years of a chance and he's done a crap job and he's really ruining our country many of you this may be the first time that you're voting I'm sorry it's such a contentious situation that you're being trusted into if any of you do still think Trump you know is a good person I beg you to not only go into your heart center and think about this a little more pull up all the stuff that he's been doing to our country, taking away so many of our rights. He's

trying to turn this into more of a, you know, dictatorship type of situation. Let me ask you, Art, because I hear this all the time. What rights has he taken away? What rights has he taken away? What rights

has he attempted to take away? I know he has tried to protect rights, the right to life. You disagree. with that. Maybe. So maybe it's, well, he wants to take away, but he has not take away the right to free abortions or whatever. Okay, we could haggle over that, but he hasn't taken it away. What right has he taken away? What has given you the impression that through his actions, as stated here, that he wants to turn everything into a dictatorship? Because that was one of my fears four years ago.

and especially, I said it on the air, at the end of four years, we are going to be in so much trouble, and there's going to come in an economic crisis, and this guy will be more FDR than FDR. But what has he done? He has rejected all of the calls for the federal government to mandate anything about COVID. He has rightfully, constitutionally said that public health falls. into the category of each state. And I don't know if you've noticed this, but states like New York and California,

the one that is the least like Donald Trump or a conservative, in fact, listen to last hour, are states that are crushing people. They feel that they have no rights. California is still on lockdown. They wanted to cancel Halloween. For what? for what?

There is a balance. It was to slow the curve so we didn't overwhelm our hospitals. Well, we did that a long time ago. Our hospitals are not overwhelmed. What is the goal here? You'll notice the goal for Donald Trump is to let people be free and ask them to be responsible. And being responsible doesn't mean that when you are. six feet away from each other and outdoors,

and you're way away from each other that you wear a mask all the time. If you're close up, if you're at, let's say, breaking into a Macy's and stealing stuff from a Macy's because you're upset about the police, you know, there's a reason for you to wear a mask. You know, you don't want to be caught, but nobody's prosecuting that anymore, Art. So I guess you wear a mask for that, for what reason? Because you're close to each other, but you'll notice that's not happening and nobody seems to have a problem with that in the states that are run by deep progressives. Tell me your plan, art. Tell me the plan.

What is the point of the shutdown at this point? Tell me what rights have been taken away by Donald Trump and tell me how he has demonstrated. himself to be a dictator. This is the Glenn Beck program. I really hope that Art calls in and I'll make space for you, Art. You just let me know. All right. Life is complicated and tricky enough to navigate during normal times when you're

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who are you afraid is going to see this objectionable material. Children? Because they're already seeing it in school. Anyway, if you missed any of these specials, you can get them at blazedTV.com, especially the one about big tech. But there is another video or documentary out right now that is so well worth watching and watching with your kids. And it really kind of stars Tristan Harris. He's the best one in it, I think. He's called the closest thing to Silicon, that Silicon Valley has to a conscience. He is a former Google Design ethicist. He is now working on the problems that are being caused by social media.

Welcome to the, welcome to the program, Tristan. How are you? And it's great to be back. Thank you for having me. So in the social dilemma, I mean, it is really quite clear that they are profiting off of the divide, even though they're saying they're trying to heal us. That's exactly right. You know, I'm really concerned with the facts that, you know, how can you do anything

when our fellow countrymen disagree vehemently across all topics that matter, right? I mean, how can you fix anything if at least half of the world violently opposes the idea and I'll counter every strategy that you do? This film is the first time that the, you know, the people who built some of these products, you know, the inventor of the Facebook like button, the person who built the YouTube recommendation system, the guy who brought the advertising business model to Facebook, Jaron Lanier, the father of virtual reality, are on camera saying, look, these are the harms that it's causing, first to children and the problems of addiction and the breakdown of the

family that we all know that, I'm sure that so many parents are struggling with, especially in COVID times when you have a kid on Zoom calls, right? I mean, I know how deep this is, and the mental health issues there, but then the second is on the polarization, and that's what I'm really most concerned about, because as you just said, they profit from the divide, because no matter what topic that there is, social media will take the most egregious and extreme and worst part of that topic and show it to your outgroup, to the other side, in the least charitable way, which means that we're all biased in a worse way about each other, right? And it's driving us crazy, and it's actually killing our democracy if we don't actually fix it.

And I'm really hoping is that if enough people see this film, we'll have a new shared truth about the breakdown of our shared truth and reality. And that's really what we're hoping for. Okay. So by the way, if you don't know what we're talking about, it is a new movie on Netflix called The Social Dilemma. I think you break it down really, really well. And it is very credible in its approach. And because everybody who's in it is pretty much legendary.

I mean, they were there, they invented it. however the the problem is and i i mean i i try to listen to well i do i listen to two podcasts every day uh that disagree with me i don't necessarily listen to anything that agrees with me i read a lot but i read all sides and um i'm surprised on both sides how many people don't know how a story was covered by the other sides. A lot of people on it, let's just take on the right. A lot of people say, the New York Times never covered that. Well, they did. They did. They may have covered it differently. They may have covered it one day or on page 18 where the right was saying, this is a front page

story, but they did cover it. And I'm shocked at how many people on both sides don't know what the other side is being fed. Yeah. Well, it's because, as you said at the beginning of the hour, these companies profit by showing you your own Truman show, your own affirming view of reality. Because imagine there's two news feeds at Facebook, right? One called the everything you believe is right feed, right? And it just shows you more and more news from your side that basically gets you to click on it more, right? And there's another feed called the everything you know might be different than what you know, right? We're going to show you news that challenges your views constantly, right? You can imagine. and they could easily find two different sets of stories to show you. Which one is going to do better for their business model of capturing your attention? The one that you like. The one that affirms your view of reality. The one that you like.

And so the problem is each of us have been given our own Truman show, our own reality, right? Where it's not that everything that we're believing is wrong. We've just been seeing a tiny, tiny, tiny sliver. And it's actually infected the rest of the media because even cable news or radio news, where do they get their news from? Well, they get their news from Twitter as well. So Twitter is the basis, this device of force is the basis that's feeding into all forms of media. And it's making us all bias in a worse and worse way. That's what we've got to fix that.

So we've talked about this many times that we don't want to get news off of Twitter because it seems like journalists are not doing real journalism. They're reacting to Twitter. That's right. It's turned all of us into little monkeys that react. act, you know, impulsively to the latest thing. And whatever media ethics or journalism or training that we might have had in a previous generation, that goes out the window when I win, the faster I make an assertion about what the other side did. Yes. And I say something without

actually stopping and holding, because if I don't do it, the other guy will, so it's a race to the bottom of the brain stem, a race to the immediate, who can say it first. But that just means that exponential hearsay, exponential gossip. And it doesn't lead to good sensemaking, right? And if we cannot agree and it just leads to violence and really escalating towards levels of violence that I think people are worried about civil war, that's not actually productive. And by the way, our enemies are using this right now against us, right? I mean, they actually want us to just sit here fighting with each other. After World War II, you know, with the big powers with nukes, you can't actually wage a conventional war anymore. So you want to use subtler methods with plausible deniability, proxy wars. But if you're Russian, China, Iran, Turkey, or North Korea, you know, you're not going to launch a nuke against us, right? But you might want to take the existing tensions and turn the enemy against itself. And that's what Sun Tzu exactly would say to do. That's what the Chinese military strategy is. And Facebook makes it a trillion times easier. So if I'm China, I want the, you know, the extreme right and the extreme left to proliferate and fight each other and would be

stoked about the rise of extremist groups on all sides. So let me ask you, Tristan, because here's the problem from the right point of view, from the conservative point of view. and that is we don't have any billion dollar hundred year old institutions like the New York Times Fox News a lot of conservatives are just not even

they're not even watching Fox News anymore they're tired of a lot of the stuff and when you have a group of people let's say the Blaze where we we really not I'm not saying all of our stories are perfect or anything else

but we really try to look into things. And for instance, I'm saying right now about civil war, there are people that want civil war. They do want to tear the country apart. I can tell you what the groups are. I think they are on the left. But there are also, as I said yesterday, there are also people who like Richard Spencer, you think the Nazis and the white supremacists don't want a civil war. They don't want freedom either.

and same with the outside. But if I say what MSNBC is now saying about civil war and they're saying that it's all coming from white supremacy, but I say, well, yes, there might be some white supremacists that want that, but there's also these organizations that want it, Antiphaz in the street calling for the destruction of America, I'm somehow another unreasonable. How do we bridge that? Well, this is the thing. So, you know, are there reasonable versions of each of each things going on? You know, are there new Patriot movements where people are learning the Constitution, learning how to do homesteading, you know, absolutely. But then there's also accelerationists orienting towards civil war and which side is social media going to expose. They're going to take a tiny percent of the worst side, and they're going to expose them in a statistically much bigger and greater way of the evil parts, missing the good parts to the other side, right? And that's going to disproportionately create a counterintuitive. response by the other side that says, well, if they're going to do that, then we're going to

escalate this. And then that's also going to take the least representative most extreme view on, say, the left, on Antifa, right? And so, and I'm not saying that there's, there's real legitimate problems on both sides here. But the problem is that it's selecting for the worst of us and making us hate each other. And by the way, we're not going to get anything done to the country when that happens. I mean, and do you think that when we're sort of devolved into conflict with ourselves that our adversaries just sit around and, you know, handle things and drive their own countries, or they want to take advantage of it. And, you know, I think, you know, there's this line that, you know, while we've been obsessed

with protecting our physical borders, we left the digital border wide open. Because if, if Russia are trying to try to fly, you know, a bomb or cruise missile into the United States will get shot down by the Department of Defense, but when they try to fly an information missile into the United States, they're met by a Facebook algorithm that says, yeah, exactly, which zip code or personality do you want to target? and they make it as easy as possible because the digital border is wide open. So they say, all of them say they're trying to stop and suppress hatred in the division, et cetera, et cetera.

So is any of that true? Well, I think that they've been very slow on waking up to these problems, Glenn. And that's actually why I think, and I'm not saying this as a self-promoter, I think the film is important for this reason, because at this point, the tech companies can't just fix what all of us are. thinking and believing. We're 10 years in to this social media washing machine that split us apart into these two different, almost like a what you call the centrifuges, you spin them around, right? And then split us apart on two completely different sides. I think the only way to actually reverse that

is to have a new cultural understanding about how this hypnotic induction took place. And I don't mean we've each been hypnotized to believe something is wrong. I mean, each of us have been hypnotized into these different bubbles of reality that are not compatible with each other. And I'm really hoping that the film can actually, again, create a shared truth about the breakdown of our shared truth. And so far it seems to be, you know, working really well at having people say, you know, I want to have a conversation with my family. And the best thing, by the way, you can do if you see the film,

is watch it with your family members, especially who might have different political beliefs in you. And after you watch it, exchange, open out Facebook on both your phones and exchange your phone and look at the other person's news feed. And you will be surprised that even with the same friends, because you're probably your husband or wife or whatever, you have many similar friends, you will see a completely different feed, which will show you. Imagine if I was living in that world for the last 10 years. Well, of course that person would be, say, concerned about climate change because their entire feed

and so could climate change stories. Or on the other side, of course that person would be like, we've got to do something about Black Lives Matter because they just see infinite evidence of just people looting and rioting on the streets, right? And that's the things. We can't really see this because we've been so narrowly trapped in these realities. And it really is an issue that can unite us because the whole thing is meant to divide us. Tristan, I'm very glad that people like you exist.

I've talked to Ray Kurzweil about ethics in Silicon Valley for a while. He scares the hell out of me. And I had been praying for 20 years that ethicists would wake up and start to really guide these companies. I hope it's not too late. I don't think it is. But thank you for everything that you're doing. The documentary, and you should watch it with your family. Watch it with your whole family.

It's called The Social Dilemma. It's not only going to show you how we're being divided, but it'll show you if you aren't convinced you're being watched and spied on, boy, you will understand why. And what's really going on. It's the social dilemma and it's on Netflix now. Tristan, thank you so much. we'll talk again.

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This is what I've gotten. Elon Musk, he was over. He was a disaster. He's broke. He's got to sell his houses. He can't even get a car out of the shop. He can't even get one off the line to sell. So he's over.

Right. Then Tesla, bigger than GM. Biggest car brand in the world. He's rolling in the money. He's a genius. He's changing. changing the world. His stock is about to collapse.

He's over. It's done. What the hell is the truth on Elon Musk? All of them are true. That's probably the issue. I mean, I think the media stuff recently, a lot of it has to do with, I think, his commentary recently.

The media has turned negative on him since he decided he wanted to open up his own factory in California. Good for him. Which, you know, I don't think he cares all that much about that. But I think his stock price, the hype was way too high.

Way too high. But he's also, look, it's an amazing company. I mean, they're doing amazing things, and it should be valued high. Whether it should be valued more than every other company on Earth is a total different situation. Yeah, that's a little high. But I have to tell you, it makes no sense. This is 2020. It makes no sense.

He's neither of those things.