The Glenn Beck Program - Rewriting the Present | Guest Host: Jeff Katz | Guests: Winsome Sears, Tom Ziglar, & Alan Dershowitz | 12/28/21

Episode Date: December 28, 2021

Radio host Jeff Katz guest host the Glenn Beck Program. The media wants to change the meaning of a widely known saying, what do they say it really means? Virginia Lt. Governor-Elect Winsome Sears join...s the show and speaks on the racism the left tries to disguise, do they care about our children? And what are Americans’ true feelings about transgenders in schools? Tom Ziglar joins the show to speak on the Great Resignation and the state of employment in America. Then, Harvard Professor Alan Dershowitz joins the to speak on the Kim Potter verdict. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:22 It's Mypillow.com promo code Beck. It is the Glenn Beck program. Jeff Katz, happy to be sitting in for my friend Glenn today. Heard every day on News Radio WRBA in Central Virginia. Now, over the years, I've paid very, very, very close attention to the real reporters and the serious journalists. You know, people not like me. Talk show hosts.
Starting point is 00:02:58 My gosh, we have an agenda. We have a point of view. We tell you what we think. We're not reporting things. We're mere opinion people. All right. I always consider that more a dollop of honesty, but, you know, that's just me. So I pay close attention.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I really do to what the self-proclaimed. real reporters and serious journalists tell us about important matters. And here's the most important matter in the United States today. Now, you and I probably thinking, okay, we've got supply shortages, right? We were talking about that yesterday. You go to the stores, and it looks a little bit like Venezuela or the old Soviet Union. And you and I are thinking, I wonder if Joe Biden's going to make little hats and say, make America Venezuela again.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But that's not what it is. And then there's the other part of me. I'm sitting here today wearing a Stanford sweatshirt because I work into every conversation. If possible, my oldest boy attends Stanford University. Oh, he's brilliant. All you have to do is ask him. I get nothing. I mean, he's getting a world-class education. I got it. I would think for the amount of money that we send to Stanford, we would get a free sweatshirt. not true, not true at all. And before I move on to the most important thing, I mean, I know it's the most important thing, but let me just take a second. My son at Stanford, did I mention that I did, right, Harry? So he says when tuition bills are paid, Dad, here's what you have to do. And I'm thinking, well, I've already sold my spleen. I'm pretty sure I only have one of those.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Well, I got two kidneys, right? I could put one up on eBay. I should be good. Or Craigslist for an unused kneecap or something. But he says, yeah, you know, you just click on this link and you can make your payment online. And I said, no. Oh, absolutely not. Why?
Starting point is 00:05:03 It's easy. It's quick. Exactly my point. If you're going to charge what they charge for tuition and you're going to demand that I pay, and I understand that, or I don't really understand it, but I pretend that I understand it, then I, I'm am sending an old-fashioned paper check. I want somebody in the burser's office to actually have to receive the envelope, open the envelope, take the check out, stamp it, endorse it, walk it to the bank, whatever they do. I want some effort. I don't want to make it effortless. I don't want to make it
Starting point is 00:05:39 easy. I want them to work for the tuition. All right. Now, now I feel better. So back to our regularly scheduled emergency, right? The crisis that's hitting all of us. Let's go, Brandon. We spoke a little bit about it yesterday. And in fact, we've got a little snippet. I got a couple of snippets here. And can we just start, if you don't mind, it's just the Joe Biden clip. I mean, he's doing this NORAD thing, if you remember, right? It's the NORAD tracker for Santa, and there's a guy in Oregon who calls in and is getting to chat with the president and Dr. Jill Biden and blah, blah, blah, blah, Merry Christmas. Let's go Brandon. And then Joe Biden, well, we got that little snippet of Biden agreeing. Yeah, I hope you guys have a wonderful Christmas as well.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Oh, thank you. Let's go, Brandon. Let's go, Brandon. I agree. I agree, too, but probably for different reasons. So that has caused an unbelievable. Worcester. Outrage. Outrage. Oh, my gosh. It's the worst thing in history. You know what it means, and I know what it means.
Starting point is 00:06:53 But we also know where it comes from. See, this is the most important part that's being ignored by the real reporters and the serious journalists. Let's go Brandon as a thing because it exposed the legacy news media for the hacks that so many of them are. Right? We see Democrat. party hacktivists deployed all over the United States, right?
Starting point is 00:07:18 They're deployed to Congress. They're deployed to state houses. And they are deployed to newsrooms. So if you recall NASCAR event, driver named Brandon wins, there's a reporter from NBC who is interviewing him, blah, blah, blah, congratulations, nice driving, yada, yada, yada, really fast, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. and the crowd is chanting the original version of Let's Go Brandon. Right? Now, if you remember, I mean, it's a long time ago, I know months ago,
Starting point is 00:07:53 all the college football games, all sorts of live events with tens of thousands of people were chanting blank Joe Biden. Now, these were not members so far as I could tell of the vast right-wing conspiracy. I didn't recognize any of them from the meetings. but that's what they're chanting. So they're chanting that at the NASCAR race. And the reporter says, oh, isn't that touching?
Starting point is 00:08:21 They're chanting, let's go Brandon. Now, everybody who is watching the race knows that's not what they were chanting. It's pretty clear as you look at the two people on screen, right? Brandon, the race car driver and the reporter, they, I think, knew. I don't know how you couldn't know what was really being chanted. So maybe she's trying to do something nice. She doesn't want to acknowledge it. But she exposed those legacy news media people for who and what so many of them are.
Starting point is 00:09:01 They're hacks. And they want to continually lie and mislead people. And they've done it for years. And then you see the rise. You see the rise of talk radio. You see the emergence of superstars like Glenn. The rise of The Blaze and glenbeck.com. And all of a sudden now, right, we don't have to wait and be spoon-fed information.
Starting point is 00:09:26 We get our own information. And we can get information in details and background from people, frankly, whose opinions we trust. People we respect. maybe people we like. But there's more to this. And this is where I want us to focus for just a moment. And that is the, quote, real meaning of this. Now, there are two pieces that we have to listen to.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Let me start with something I found on the blaze.com. If you want to see the video, by all means, go to the blaze.com. But it's a CNN analyst who is, is pushing the idea that let's go Brandon doesn't really mean what you and I know that it means. Let's take a listen to that. Wonderful Christmas as well. Thank you. Let's go, Brandon.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Let's go, Brandon. I agree. Let's go, Brandon, for those who don't know, is slang for F. Joe Biden. Ron, the president is trying to be nice to kids. he doesn't really have to do this. They were very pleasant. What does it tell you that somebody is rude like that and disrespects the office of the president to his face
Starting point is 00:10:43 about the political climate in this country? Yeah, look, you know, it's ungracious, it's juvenileized, reprehensible by the father. But I don't think it's fundamentally about inscivility. I think it is fundamentally about insurrection. You know, I don't know the individual, but the whole let's go Brandon kind of motif is a reflection of the view, two-thirds of the Republican base,
Starting point is 00:11:08 driven by Trump's claims, false claims, and the big lie, that Biden is an illegitimate president. And it reflects as well the findings in multiple polls by the American Enterprise Institute, Vanderbilt University, and others, that a majority of Republican voters now say the American way of life is disappearing so fast, the traditional American way of life that we may have to use force to save it.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I think you're seeing this is a manifest, not just of inscivility, but of the fundamental view of the illegitimacy and the ominous shores that were kind of sailing toward very quickly in 2022 and especially 2024. Jeez, I just thought it meant blank Joe Biden. I didn't realize how much was packed into the phrase. Now, this guy who's chatting here, and it doesn't matter who it is, because all of the chattering heads on all of the usual suspect platforms, be it CNN or MSNBC, We'll listen to that in just a moment.
Starting point is 00:12:05 They're all the same. They're all in cover-up mode. They're all in, let's boost Joe. They're the same folks who spent four-plus years attacking, vilifying, demonizing Donald Trump. You do remember this, right? It's not that long ago. Four years, every single day, every single hour. of every single day, every single minute of every single hour of every single day.
Starting point is 00:12:40 They devoted to undermining and attempting to topple the duly elected president in the United States, Donald John Trump. That's what they did. Day after day after day. There wasn't anything that was beneath them. People who would look you in the face and say, hey, it's a mostly peaceful protest and you're watching the buildings burn. You're watching police being in the... It's mostly peaceful. I mean, except for the attacks on the cops and the burning buildings. They're the same people who attempted to bring down Donald Trump over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Did he order Russian dressing with a salad? Ah, we got to bring him down. But now, something that is purely organic. And I get it. It may very well be impolite. I can guarantee you that that guy's wife, oh my gosh, she was livid. And every one of us who's a husband, by the way, we know the look that he got. Oh, you absolutely know the look that he got.
Starting point is 00:13:44 She looked at him like, I cannot believe you did this. Oh, my God, we're going to have to move. We're going to seriously, we're going to have to move to like Australia because everybody knows us. But you listen to what the CNN folks did. And again, we'll listen to the MSNBC people in just the. moment. They are all cut from the same cloth and they are going to take away as much speech from us as possible. You and I could say it's a sunny day and they're going to tell us it's calling for a revolution. We've got to be very careful. Remember, you've got to check out theblaze.com,
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Starting point is 00:16:11 enough is enough. We in Virginia back in November said, look, it doesn't matter whether we're Democrats or Republicans. It really believe it or not, doesn't matter whether we're liberals or conservatives. If we're parents,
Starting point is 00:16:26 we want to be involved. If our kids are in school, we, the parents, need to be involved. And we had candidates. I mean, these running for governor, lieutenant governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, our house of delegates,
Starting point is 00:16:42 all telling us no, no, no, no, no. Just, just seriously, shut up, sit down, move aside. You don't need to be involved. Leave this to the professional educators, you know, the members of the AFT and the NIA. They know what they're doing. And we said, no. We're the parents. We, the parents, need to be involved in our kids' education. Anyway, we went to the polls. We, the parents.
Starting point is 00:17:06 parents. And we voted out the clowns that we had for the last eight years. And we elected Glenn Yonkin as governor, winsome Sears, as lieutenant governor, Jason Bari's, as attorney general. And each and every one of those folks said, we respect the parents. We value the input from parents. We want you involved in your kids' education. So incoming lieutenant governor winsome seers is going to be with us in just a couple of moments and we'll talk about that because I'm just telling you as I sit here this is an issue for everybody you don't have to be here in Virginia you can be in Hawaii you could be in Alaska you could be in Pennsylvania wherever you are you've got to be involved now let me let me give you the second little snippet again I know
Starting point is 00:17:53 you're thinking like I was geez I thought let's go Brandon was just you know kind of a code grew out of this, this, this, this reporters cover up efforts. And maybe they were well-intentioned. Maybe they weren't. I don't know. But we all heard what it really meant. We know what it really means. And yeah, I don't know, maybe not the nicest thing to say.
Starting point is 00:18:13 But it's, it's a handy little tagline. But apparently, it's actually part of a violent effort to overthrow Joe Biden. Who knew? Let's take a listen to MSNBC address that as well. Let me tell you why this matters. The asymmetry has always been what advantages the Trump right more than anything else. And the asymmetry of saying, F you to a sitting president on a call in front of your four kids, don't look past this.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Don't look at this as a story about giving airtime to a MAGA guy who goes on Steve Bannon's podcast and said, I wasn't joking. Not only did I say, F you, Mr. President. I said more than that. This is the slow motion insurrection, Jason, in full color. The more dangerous thing, as you're pointing to, it's the fact that all of these people are basically just insurrectionists in training now. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Like, if you wanted to say, look, presidents here insulting things all the time. People said rude things to George Bush. Larry Wilmore made a highly inappropriate joke, right? And that's a Barack Obama, right? Like, people can say rude things to the president. That's not the issue. But when these people are speaking, they're not joking. MAGA isn't about taxes.
Starting point is 00:19:31 You know, let's go Brandon isn't about what you feel about supply chain issues and gas. It is the cry of insurrectionists. It is the cry of people who want to violently take over this country and oppress anyone who is not like them. And that's what makes this dangerous. And to the degree that Joe Biden can laugh at off or anything else like that, that's fine. But I hope that we have a Justice Department and an FBI and a CIA that investigates where the anger that leads to these kinds of statements comes through. because these people have already attacked us with guns. You think they're going to come back and do something less aggressive next time
Starting point is 00:20:03 if they feel they can speak this way to the president? I don't think so. Are you kidding me? The FBI? The CIA, the Department of Justice, they need to come and investigate somebody who says, blank the president? Really?
Starting point is 00:20:18 I mean, you know, no offense to whoever that lunatic is, but you're nuts, pal. I mean, you really are. You are officially. nuts. You're back crap crazy. This is one of the beautiful things about our country, or at least it used to be. We can say nasty things about the president. We can say the president stinks. We can talk about how we hate the president or we love the president. That's the point of this. This isn't royalty, right? Are you allowed to say something nasty about the queen in England?
Starting point is 00:20:53 I have no idea. I don't know. But you want to employ, and this is the important part. You want to employ federal government agents to investigate anybody who says, let's go Brandon. Can you believe this? Now, where were you during the four years when attacks on Donald Trump happened every couple of seconds, where President Trump was insulted and demeaned and vilified, burned in effigy? Well, that's you. Just free speech, Jeff. That's okay. The inconsistency, the fundamental dishonesty, and the danger posed by those folks, that's the real issue. Coming up, Winsome Sears, the incoming lieutenant governor of Virginia joins us. Jeff Katz in for Glenn today. It's the Glenn Beck program. If you're looking for a New Year's resolution that is easy to keep, I have just the thing. It's time to do something that will help protect your identity and your personal information. It's time to get light. LifeLock Identity Thief Protection.
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Starting point is 00:22:56 The truth that mainstream media can't handle. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program. Program Jeff Katz, happy to be sitting in. in Fort Glenn today, her daily on News Radio WRVA in Central Virginia. You know how you and I have been told over the years? There's just some people. You can't be a conservative.
Starting point is 00:23:32 You can't be a Republican. Oh, come on. You're an immigrant. You're Jewish. You're black. You're Latino. You're Asian. You're short.
Starting point is 00:23:41 You're tall. You're fat. I don't know. Whatever the thing is. But there's always some reason why some of us are just not. supposed to be conservative. Some of us are not supposed to be Republicans. And then they got to a point where some of us said, excuse me, I fully formed human being over here, relatively intelligent, can probably make a few decisions on my own. And some of us said, yeah, I'm going to have to
Starting point is 00:24:10 analyze things and make my own decisions. Decisions. You and I get to make decisions. Well, we here in Virginia, about a month ago, a little bit more than a month ago, made a decision. We said that we, the parents, we do have a role in our children's education. And that was a big part of why Glenn Yonkin, Winsom Sears, and Jason Miare's were successful in their elections. I am so happy to tell you that Winsome Sears, who's a marvelous woman, who has just been elected, Lieutenant Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia is joining us. Good morning, Madam Lieutenant Governor-elect. I always get your titles mixed up. Can I just call you a winsome still? Yeah, I haven't gotten too big for my britches as my grandmother would say. I'm still winsome. You are still
Starting point is 00:25:06 winsome and thank God you are because you're helping to save our beloved state, you know. Well, I tell you, I heard your introduction there and I got to say, that I think what the Democratic Party unfortunately does is start with the premise that black people are victims from the time of birth. And so if the world is against you from the time of birth, then you're going to need somebody to step in and save you. And they just happen to be the saviors. It's funny how that works.
Starting point is 00:25:36 But you see, the way that I come at life is life is life. And even those who are so-called born with a gold spoon in their, mouth, they have issues. I mean, you look at the rich families and their children are committing suicide, unfortunately. Their children are failing around. Life will hit you. And you've got to be ready for life from the moment you enter into this world. You know, you enter screaming, you know. Yeah. You talk Esther with a smile on your face. Hello, world. Oh, I don't know about your kids, Winsome. My kid is. I don't know about your kids, Winsome. My kid are still screaming half the time, but that's, you know, that's normally because I'm asking
Starting point is 00:26:21 them to do something they don't want to do. I guess I have to mention for the record, I mean, it's not, I don't even think about it. I just think of Winston Sears, who's, who's this wonderful accomplished woman who's going to help save what, what our Commonwealth is today and make it better again. But I guess I have to mention all of the first, right? First woman elected lieutenant governor, first black person elected governor, first. child of immigrants. I mean, we'll get those all out of the way just because it seems like for some, those boxes all need to be checked. Yeah. It's unfortunate that we have to do that. But I think if we use the same standards that the Democrats use, well, then heck, I have one and so have people who look like me and so have immigrants and so have Latinos and so have Asians. That means the Republican Party is open to everyone folks. Heck yeah. I mean, think about it.
Starting point is 00:27:17 You know, they put me up, Republicans did, as the nominee, as their nominee. That's right. They believed in me. They didn't believe in me because I'm black. They didn't believe in me because I'm an immigrant or because I'm a woman or because I'm a Marine veteran. They just want someone who espouses the ideals of America. Freedom, first of all.
Starting point is 00:27:40 We were created to be free. You yearn to be free. Heavens, you can look at your children, Jeff. And yeah, they're screaming. They want to be free. Yeah. It's the way we're made. And then we want to be, you know, given the opportunity to do what we want to do.
Starting point is 00:27:56 You know, own businesses, whatever it is, just leave us alone. It's that Billy Joel song. Go ahead with your own life and leave me alone, you know? You know, that really is it, though, right? It's like, look, I'm going to make some decisions, and you know what? I know at 50 some ideas of age, some of those decisions were bad ones. I've grown, I've learned, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I'm raising my kids, I think, properly.
Starting point is 00:28:21 You've raised your children. You're participating in America. My God, more power to each of us. Now, you did mention the things that were not important. Don't throw Marine in there. That was one of the reasons I voted for you. But don't tell anybody that. That's a little semper-fite thing going on there.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Can we talk for a moment here, now that we've gotten all the boxes checked, et cetera, et cetera. education man this was you know it because you you lived it every single day of that campaign we the parents said whoa hang on we ought to be involved right yeah yeah you know when i first announced back in january that was the first thing i was i was out with and i was pretty much the first one education because i knew that education would be an equalizer it always is you know and so i started there and it blossomed into this thing where it it it's it It mushrooms, then parents decided that, well, what COVID did was show them, you think your children are learning, but they're really not. And what they're learning?
Starting point is 00:29:24 You don't even know the half of what they're learning. And so some of the parents were able to stand behind the computers and when the kids logged on, what? And they're reading what? And what? No, no, this is unacceptable. And so parents, now we understand that school boards are important. You know, we used to think, oh, it's just a little school board race. You know, it's just a school board.
Starting point is 00:29:47 But now we know, now we know every election is important, folks, if they're running for chief dog catcher, get in a race and get behind somebody. Because these elections are stepping stones to something bigger, usually. Yeah. And you want to stop them at the patch. Absolutely. Winsome Sears is joining us. Winsome Sears is an amazing woman. She, in just a couple of weeks, will become my lieutenant.
Starting point is 00:30:13 governor. I'm so proud of the fact that she was elected back in November and January the 15th, we'll raise her hand and take yet another oath to serve and protect. Winston, when we talk about the parents, we talk about education, we talk about opportunity, as you said, we need children to get a quality education, not a cram-down indoctrination. Absolutely. Absolutely. So that's one of the reasons we got elected. And we are going to fulfill that. And the type of education that we're talking about is an education that works for everybody, where, you know, you're not limited by your zip code, which is one of the things I had said to Stacey Abrams when she announced for governor and she said, your opportunity shouldn't be limited by your zip code. Well, welcome to the club.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Because, you know, we happen to think so too. You know, I have a small business. I'd love it. If when you moved into my zip code, you only could use my business and my business only. But that's not the way this work. And by the way, let's stop this nonsense that public monies ought not to be going to private school education. Excuse me. That's happening now. Public monies are going to private businesses when it comes to doctors. You ever heard of Medicaid and Medicare?
Starting point is 00:31:35 Yes. Those public monies go to private doctors. You ever heard of SNAP food benefits? Yes, the food money that we give to those who are not able to provide, that money goes to private groceries. You ever heard of federal financial aid? Yes, that money goes sometimes, most of the times, to private institutions, private universities, private colleges. We could keep going, oh, Section 8. That's public money.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Going to private landlords, thank you very much. So how is it that when it comes to a child's education, my God, the most important thing in a child's life that will dictate the rest of their lives, the parents cannot decide where to send their children to school, they're beholden to a government institution and a government institution only? I think not. I think not. And if you ask me about racism, that's where I'm going to point to. because unless you have the means to move your child into a different zip code, you are stuck. And I have knocked on doors in many communities from the higher echelons to those who have nothing. And they tell me they want to decide to themselves.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Give me the money. This is my child. This is my child. Terry McCallis. These are our kids. The kids don't belong to the government. That's right. Not in this country.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Not yet. No, I know you're standing on that line, Winston, but you know, you mentioned Terry McCullough. And here's a guy who spent $40,000 per child to send his kids to the Potomac School. I'd never be grudged in that. He earned the money. He can do with it what he wants. But, you know, as I do to say to a single mom in Richmond or Newport News or Norfolk, sorry, nope, your kids are basically condemned to go to failing schools while my kids can go anywhere they want. They won. It was so outrageous and so insulting. And then he kept telling us, sit down, shut up, mind your own business.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah. Well, that's the standard refrain, isn't it from the Democratic Party? And it's unfortunate, especially the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. They're so far left that if there were a flat earth, they'd have fallen off by now. This is the problem. And we've got to fix it and we've got to fix it fast. You know, in businesses, people, the customers, they walk with their money, don't they? If they don't patronize your business, you're done. Your business is over. Well, how would it be if we gave parents the money to decide where they should send their children to school and they don't elect to keep them in the school that their children are attending, that tells you something. And that's what we should be fighting for. If you're talking about diversity and equity and inclusion, there it is. Give me my money. Let me make a decision about where to send my child at school.
Starting point is 00:34:32 And I'm going to keep harping on that because if they get a good education, then they will have marketable skills, Jeff, and they can compete in this global world. Right now, 70% of the jobs, you need something other than a high school diploma to get there. 70% of the current jobs. And if you're not even graduate, and by the way, Virginia has lowered their standards.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Virginia has lowered the standards. And we have discovered, for example, there's one city, I'm not going to name it, one city, 40% of the kids never logged on not one time. Never logged on not one time. And what are you going to do about that? And then of those that logged on, 80% of them have failed. 80%. So you know what they did? They socially promoted them anyway.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Who are you fooling? Who are you fooling? That's right. We are not on this planet by ourselves. We have China to deal with. China has more honor students than we have students than we have students. We're dealing with Russia. We are dealing with all of these other nuclear holding powers.
Starting point is 00:35:40 We can't afford not to get it right. Rome, as you know, was destroyed within, within. Not by the time the vandals and the viscass appeared, Rome had already destroyed itself. So they could just walk right in. And that's what we have to be careful we don't do in America. So true. Listen, I'm so out of time. I just want to say in front of everybody, number one, I love you, as you know, was proud
Starting point is 00:36:05 to support you in our party primary, honor to vote for you, and I will be thrilled January 15th watching you take the oath of office as a lieutenant governor of my commonwealth. God bless you, Winston. I look forward to chatting again soon. Thank you. See you, Jeff. And good morning to your listeners. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:36:25 That is Winston Sears. is she in a couple of weeks is going to be the lieutenant governor of Virginia. She's the one, along with Glenn Yonkin, Jason Miari. They embraced our we, the parents' movement. Yeah, you can do it too. Jeff Katz, in for Glenn. It is the Glenn Beck program. Ever since he tried the Rough Greens for the first time, my dog, Uno, has changed. He's a completely different dog. I hear from people all the time in the audience. I mean, hundreds and hundreds of letters have come in who have had the same experience with their dog. They've heard me talk about rough greens on the show. They get some from themselves.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And as soon as they sprinkle it on the dog's food, the dog literally wolves it down. And it's really good for him. It's not a dog food. It's just chock full of vitamins and minerals and probiotics and omega oils that you sprinkle. Your dog needs these things to be healthy. My dog was easy. From the first time he tried Rough Greens, Uno was in love. Some dogs take a little bit to get used to the new flavor, though.
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Starting point is 00:38:07 Heard every day on News Radio WRVA in Central Virginia. No fun for you. No fun for me either. Dr. Fauci is back. Remember him? Oh, the good Dr. Fauci. And the good Dr. Fauci now says, well, you say, no, we shouldn't do Christmas, right? It wasn't Christmas a bad thing?
Starting point is 00:38:26 And what was it before that? Was Halloween was bad. Independence Day, July the 4th is when we threw it this year. And what was that? We were going to save, I think, seven cents on a hot dog so you could have one point two other non-family members, but they'd have to stay like 87 feet away and whatever it was. So now Fauci is back. and says, yeah, you probably should not go to a New Year's Eve party.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Not a problem for me. I always fall asleep long before the ball falls, so I'm okay. But I'm trying to think for myself. I know that it's just kind of dangerous in this day and age, but I really am trying to think for myself, okay, the CDC just cut in half the quarantine period. If you haven't heard that, that's the latest from the CDC. Hey, people who have COVID test positive needed to quarantine, hide under their beds, do not go outside, not talk to people for 10 days.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Now they cut it in half to five days. They're also saying that a lot of people who have the, quote, Omicron variants of COVID are asymptomatic. Well, I'm trying to figure out then why exactly should I not live my life? We'll talk a little bit more about that, and you're not going to believe, but there's yet another effort to dumb down America via the schools all straight ahead. It's Jeff Katz, in for Glenn. It is the Glenn Beck program.
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Starting point is 00:42:34 News Radio WRVA and Central Virginia, is it really the great resignation or is it the great reimagination? Now, you've heard Glenn talk about the Great Reset. Oh, that's absolutely the case. There's no question about that. But we don't hear about that from the Legacy News media, right?
Starting point is 00:42:51 We hear about the Great Resignation, everybody who is able to is quitting their jobs. Well, there's a guy by the name of Tom Ziegler who says, not so fast. It's not really the great resignation. Jeff. This is more of the great reimagination. This is where people are going to just have to change their focus a little bit and we'll chat with Tom in a couple of moments. And if the name Ziegler
Starting point is 00:43:15 sounds familiar to you, it's because his dad was Zig Ziglar, who frankly helped millions, tens of millions of people around the world live better lives. And Tom, I think, is carrying on that legacy. So we'll chat with him in a couple of moments. Now, I mentioned to you that there's something we as Americans apparently agree on. And the problem is it smacks of common sense. And because it smacks of common sense, well, the left-wing folks are outraged. Now, what is it that you and I can agree on? Well, we know what this means. We know what that means. Not anymore. Not anymore. There's a brand new poll out. And I know I'm leery of polls just like you are. I don't necessarily take them to heart. But I'm looking at these numbers. And I'm thinking, this is one.
Starting point is 00:44:04 of those things that, well, everybody, everywhere, probably agrees on. But we're not allowed to say it anymore. So I just thought I'd share this with you. 75% of Americans agree there are two genders. Do you ever think that would be a groundbreaking number? Now, frankly, I'm a little puzzled by the 25% that are confused. But this has been turned into such a. a twisted political issue that we've all forgotten about common sense.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Now, once again, it comes back to common sense and how do you treat people and do you do the right thing? And can we as parents make sure that our kids are safe in schools? I mentioned to you that my home base is central Virginia. I'm in this beautiful, beautiful area called Hanover County. And we're just north of the city of Richmond, which used to be a great tourist destination. You know, you'd go down Monument Avenue, and there were all these second place trophies. Everybody joked them and second place trophies. They're all Confederates. You know, they lost, you know.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Yeah, we know they lost. And people would joke and mock them. And then there was this great discussion. Every single time somebody came from out of town. And I've been part of WRBA now for nine years. Every time somebody came to visit, they go, oh, let's go see those statues. Where I would suggest, we're going to go to Monument Avenue. We're going to see the statues. We're going to see these monuments. And I'm telling you, without
Starting point is 00:45:38 missing a beat, every single person started with second place trophies. And we'd all laugh and move along. But we always had a conversation afterwards. We always talked about what happened on the North American continent between 1861 and 1865. What really happened? Why did it really happen? What was the outcome? Can we make sure that it never happens again if we're talking about slavery as an example. And then the mayor of the city of Richmond, who I've got to tell you something, always punches above his weight class when it comes to one thing. And that's being the worst mayor in America. I know, I know people think, hey, Bill de Blasio in New York, Jeff, worst mayor in America. Nope. Lori Lightfoot, Chicago, worst mayor in America. Nope. Jim
Starting point is 00:46:28 Kenny, oh, the mayor of Philadelphia, man, he's an unrepentant socialist. He's an Apologist for he's the worst mayor. Nope, nope, nope. Mayor of Richmond, Virginia is actually the worst mayor in America. So congratulations to him. It's launched this terrible war against police officers and his other claim to fame is that he ripped down all of those monuments, even though we didn't have the authority to do so. That's crazy. It's just absolutely crazy. But we come back to this common sense thing. Common sense says, huh, let's have a conversation. Common sense says, can we actually spend a couple of moments trying to figure out what the reason for this is or what the reason for that is or why A happened or why B shouldn't happen?
Starting point is 00:47:17 Common sense, according to the Rasmussen report, also is that 75% of Americans agree there are two genders. But in addition to common sense, there's got to be common decency. I mentioned I live in Hanover County, Virginia. I mean, this beautiful, it's rural. I've got my window in front of me. I've told you what I call this, right? My, you're an atheist, really, window? Because I look out of this window at the broadcast hut,
Starting point is 00:47:47 and I see trees and grass and flowers. I mean, it's beautiful. And I just gaze out of that. And I think, seriously, you just think this just all happened. Just happenstance. I don't know. Maybe I'm a simple man. But I don't buy that.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I just, I look at it. I think, yeah, there is, there is something bigger than we are. There's something better than we are. There's, there is something that created all of this. But I'm going off on a tangent. Here in Hanover County, we now have a couple of parents who have filed a lawsuit with the assistance of the ACLU that says, you know, you're not doing enough for the transgendered students. in Hanover County. I thought, okay, well, we're not a big county, just so you know.
Starting point is 00:48:43 We're actually pretty small in terms of population. And so I do this math. I said, let's just use round numbers, easy numbers to understand, because, man, I'm not a math guy. Let's say in each high school, we have four grades, 9, 10, 11, 12. In each high school, let's say we've got a thousand students. And if we look at the percentages, we know that students who consider themselves to be transgendered, and whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant, whether I agree with it or not, completely and totally irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Let's look at the numbers. And the numbers would say out of those thousand students, you have one or two students in each grade. Let's be generous here. So let's say out of a thousand students in a high school, you have eight, ten, call it ten, call it 12 students who say, you know what? I know that biologically I'm a guy, but I really do believe I'm supposed to be a gal. Or I know biologically, I'm female, but boy, I really believe I'm supposed to be male. I don't have to argue that point. I really don't.
Starting point is 00:49:59 probably not my point to argue or debate or even discuss. I don't have to agree. I don't have to disagree. But I do as a decent person have to make sure that everybody in the school gets an education. Right? We get back to this education thing. So let's say you've got eight, ten, twelve students out of a thousand who say they are the opposite gender. So what do you do?
Starting point is 00:50:31 The lawsuit says we need to reconfigure all the schools. We need to tear them down, build them up again, have this room over here, that room over there. And every one of those kids who says, I quote, identify as a different gender, well, I get to use the bathroom, the locker room, what have you, of the opposite gender. No consideration whatsoever for the 990 students who say, wait a minute, I, I, what about me? How come I'm not allowed to feel safe? How come I have to be, quote, uncomfortable? Why is that okay? And the answer is pretty simple.
Starting point is 00:51:11 It's not. It's not. I came up with a solution, which I think is a pretty good one. And that is that we say to those 10 kids out of the thousand, listen, I don't know what's going on with you. You may very well identify this way as opposed to that way. Not my issue. but I do want you to be safe.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I do want you to feel as comfortable as possible, and I want you to get a great education. So here's what we're going to do. We're not going to inconvenience and turn upside down the 990 students because it just doesn't make a lot of sense. But we are going to look out for you. We're going to provide you a separate restroom. We're going to provide you a separate changing area
Starting point is 00:51:59 so that you are safe and secure and comfort. and every one of those other students is as well. Now, how does that tie in with 75% of Americans saying, hey, they're only two genders? There's going to come a point where this all gets hashed out. And it either gets hashed out from a left-wing perspective or from a real-world perspective, and they are not the same. I'm going to give you another example in just a moment. California, where I was blissfully unaware that anybody,
Starting point is 00:52:32 still got sent to prison? I didn't know you could commit a crime in California. Well, apparently you can still be sent to prison, but this very issue now is becoming a huge issue in the state of California. We're going to talk about that. A couple of ways that you can drop in if you'd like. I always remind you about this. 888-727-B-E-C-K. Should we or should we not protect the rights of the 990 students in the school? I say yes. And should we or should we not protect the rights of the 10 students of the school? Absolutely we should. And there is a way to do it without hurting anybody, without harming anybody, without insulting anybody. We have an obligation, I think, we, the parents. 888-727 Beck, Triple-8-727-B-E-C-K.
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Starting point is 00:55:05 reimagination? Tom Ziegler joins us in a couple of moments to address that particular issue. I just, I look at it and as we've all changed throughout COVID, the question becomes, is there really an office anymore, right? Is there really a workplace? I don't know. I can't figure this one out. But I wanted to let you hear the latest from Dr. Fauci, and we'll talk about some of this other stuff as well. Dr. Fauci now says, if I understand it correctly, There will be no fun. Let's take a listen to the good Dr. Fauci. Caitlin, I would stay away from that.
Starting point is 00:55:40 I mean, I have been telling people consistently that if you're vaccinated and boosted and you have a family setting in the home with family and relatives. But when you're talking about a New Year's Eve party, we have 30, 40, 50 people celebrating. You do not know the status of their vaccination. I would recommend strongly stay away from that this year. There will be other years to do that, but not this year.
Starting point is 00:56:03 But that's what you said last year. Listen, dude, at some point, can we not just live our lives? I'm not asking you to bake me a cake. I'm not asking you to come over and mow the lawn. In fact, I don't really like you. I'm just telling you that I don't like him. There's just something unctious about the good Dr. Fauci. Oh, I think he's brilliant.
Starting point is 00:56:29 But you remember Peter Navarro, Dr. Navarro, Dr. Navarro was a President Trump's economic guru for all four years. I chatted with him not too long ago. And he said, look, he always thought that Fauci was just out for Fauci, that he never had the best interest of anyone except Tony Fauci in mind. And then I chatted with President Trump's former chief of staff. And he said the same thing. Yeah, nobody liked Fauci. Now, that doesn't mean anything to me because, frankly, there are a lot of people I don't like. There are a lot of people who are really talented, really good at what they do. And you and I may or may not like them.
Starting point is 00:57:10 I'm not looking for them to be the winner of some popularity contest. But there does come a point where you and I, as grown human beings, get to make some decisions. And that's the essence of being an adult, for goodness sakes. I think I mentioned to you. I got my modernist shots. I had no qualms about getting my Moderna shots. And I got a booster shot a couple of weeks ago. And I will do what my doctor tells me is the right thing to do.
Starting point is 00:57:42 But I'm not following anybody. I'm not jumping off a cliff. I have a doctor for a reason. My doctor, by the way, great guy. I mean, it's a brilliant guy, Dr. Bob. Dr. Bob actually used to be the medical director for Vince McMahon and the World Wrestling Federation. So Dr. Bob has seen it all. But I asked Dr. Bob when this all started coming about, what do we do? I said, well, he says, what are you asking me?
Starting point is 00:58:13 I said, well, should I or should I not get this injection, this jab, this stab, this vaccine, whatever we call it? And he says, well, you know, you're of this age. You don't have this comorbidity or that comorbidity, but I will tell you something. I'm getting mine. I said, do you suggest that I get? He says, yes, I do. And I didn't end it there. I got so many people I know who are real honest to goodness medical professionals.
Starting point is 00:58:45 And I asked them, hey, what do you think? What do you think? What do you think? And I got it. And I got the second one and I got the booster shot. Now, here's what I'm not going to do. I'm not going to go along with anybody, be it Dr. Fauci or Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, who tells me that we're not going to be able to live life, that we're simply all, every single one of us going to be stuck in our homes forever. Maybe Dr. Fauci doesn't have a New Year's Eve party to go to. Maybe Dr. Fauci doesn't know 30 people who actually like him enough to invite him to a New Year's Eve party.
Starting point is 00:59:24 but this is the same thing he told us last year. And he told us don't do Christmas and don't do Thanksgiving and don't do Independence Day. I thought there was a reason we got vaccines. I thought there was a reason that we did the things we do to combat illness. So if we're at a point now, we're two. 200 million people have been fully vaccinated? Don't we start to look at that number for herd immunity? I mean, you've heard Glenn talk about this over and over.
Starting point is 01:00:05 What is the number? And how come the goalposts keep moving? How come we keep getting told? No, we just have to do this and then everything will be fine. But no, then it's this. This is where it does tie into that whole great reset thing. It does tie into this idea that, well, frankly, there are some people who don't want you making decisions for yourself. They don't want me making decisions for myself. And that's a
Starting point is 01:00:32 problem. That's a huge problem. We're seeing it play out with the supply chain. I know we just talked about it yesterday, but empty shelves? Do you ever think you'd live in an America where you could go into the grocery store and see empty shelves? I went again yesterday, stopped at a grocery store we shop at in this area. They're out of half and half again. Oh, I know. There's some people going, Jeff, just drink your coffee, blank.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Be a man about it, right? Man up, Jeff. Black coffee's the way to go. No. I need half and half. And they didn't have it again. And when I asked the dairy person yesterday, when are you getting it?
Starting point is 01:01:17 The answer, again, was we don't know. We don't have any. and they don't have any in our warehouse, and we don't know when we're going to get it again. That is outrageous. Remember, the blaze.com, glenbeck.com, Jeffcatshow.com. Is it the great resignation or the great reimagination? We're going to try and answer that in just a moment. Jeff Katz in today for Glenn.
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Starting point is 01:02:59 doing our part to keep free speech alive there's much more after the break on the glenbeck program it's the glenbeck program jeff cats happy to be sitting in for glen today i remind you of a couple of things glenbeck dot com and the blaze dot com unbelievable information glenbeck dot com by the way is one of those places that has so much personal stuff from glen and i i just urge you to to go there I really do. Take a look at some of the great charitable work. I mean, we know about rescuing people out of Afghanistan and stuff that Mercury 1 does on a regular basis. But, boy, it's just some of the writing there is tremendous. And I hope you'll check that out. 888-7-27 Beck, Triple-8-727-B-E-C-K. And while I'm sitting in, you can always contact me via my page, V-Jefcatshow.com. The jeffcatshow.com. There's a, there's a, there's a, contact button there or the Jeff Katz Show on Facebook. Now, I try to share what it is that I do. I don't mean sitting here and talking. You figured that out a long time ago. But there's some things that I do on a pretty regular basis just to be able to get up and kind of get through the day.
Starting point is 01:04:29 I have next to me an amazing book, The One Year Daily Insights with Zig Zigler. Now, I don't know how many times I've read it, but it's a lot. The book's kind of beat up at this point, but I don't miss a chance to read that. I look at some of the great speakers and thinkers of our time. And I look at guys like John Maxwell and Brian Tracy and Zig Zigler. And I can remember being in an audience. I was pretty young. I had the chance to see Zig Ziglar live.
Starting point is 01:05:07 And I thought, my God, he's amazing. Now, his thoughts, his views have inspired millions of people. And we're facing a crisis right now. We keep hearing about the great resignation. The great resignation. Everybody's going to quit their job. We're all going to have little vegetable farms in the back of our house. And nobody's ever going to an office again, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Really? I don't buy that. Now, Zig Zigler went to his reward some time ago, but his son Tom Ziegler continues the amazing work. And Tom has a pretty new book out. And I just wanted to share this with people. It's called 10 Leadership Virtues for Disruptive Times. And make no mistake, we're in disruptive times. And Tom is joining us.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Tom, thank you so much for being here. Jeff, I'm so excited to be here. Thanks for having me on. Well, I am a fan, not just of your dad, but of you as well. the work that you've done, the books that you have written. So I am humbled that you would take some time out of your day to be here. I really, really am. Well, I tell you, we're living in some pretty exciting times, if you know, use that word.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What was the Chinese proverb? You should only live in interesting times. And this is about as interesting as it gets. So you did a lot of research on this. book, 10 leadership virtues for disruptive times. Just give us a snapshot.
Starting point is 01:06:39 What are you looking at and how does this play out? Yeah. So when this thing called the pandemic started, gosh, what is that now? Seems like forever two years ago. Yeah. I just started studying what's the change in business? What's the change in life? And literally hours a day trying to figure out where are we going, what's happened.
Starting point is 01:07:02 and then to put Tyler Ziegler view on it. You know, Dad said a positive attitude outperforms a negative attitude every time. I mean, it's just a fact of reality. And this is some pretty interesting data that's come back. And that is that people have shifted. Their values have shifted. What's important has shifted. They want to work for a business or in their own business that has a purpose and a cause.
Starting point is 01:07:30 And they're organizing. and they're organizing their life around their family values rather than work. And I see that is a good thing. That's why I call it the great reimagination rather than the great resignation. Yeah. I mean, there was a time that we worked so that we could live, and then we transitioned into live to work, 24 hours a day, got to be accessible. And maybe now we are looking going, you know, I'd kind of like to see my kids grow up on a daily basis.
Starting point is 01:07:59 I mean, Dad said in the 1970s, he said, you know, if standard of living is your goal, quality of life almost never goes up. Yes. If quality of life is your goal, standard of living almost always goes up. And suddenly people have figured out, wait a second, maybe it's quality of life that I pursue. And wouldn't you know it that productivity and performance has gone up across the board for people who believe that, understand it. and they have the mindset to embrace it. Now, we weren't supposed to see that, right? I mean, wasn't everything just supposed to fall apart?
Starting point is 01:08:38 People working remotely, people working from homes. They had their own offices in their house. Everything was supposed to crash. And as you point out, productivity went up, even though a lot of us were just wearing sweatpants. Yeah. Well, right after this whole thing started, over 60 million hours a day were saved in commute time. And then people said, you know what, I've got more time I can get stuff done. And then the flexibility to hang out with the kids or work on a project or start early and finish late, whatever people want to do, it changed a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:09:13 But we have the old leadership biases that are keeping us from maximizing this. And that's really what's happening. The great resignation, it's nothing more than most people saying, you know what, there's a better way to do this. and I'm going to work in a place that's going to allow that. Yeah. Tom Ziegler is joining us. The website is Ziegler.com, Z-I-G-L-A-R, Ziegler.com. Tom's new book is called 10 Leadership Virtues for Disruptive Time.
Starting point is 01:09:41 So, Tom, aside from simply having every C-E-O in America sit down and read the book cover to cover, how do we see this implemented? And how do people change the mindset of the bosses, if you will? Yeah, so I have a name for what I call the old top-down, do it because I said so to man and control leader. I call them the T-Rex leader. They got sharp teeth and short arms. You know, they like the whole thing tight. And if you're one of those and you don't want to change, just like the T-Rex, you're going to go extinct.
Starting point is 01:10:23 I mean, it's happening every single day. And if you're working for one of those, just know that great companies and great leaders are seeking top performers who believe that they can perform at a higher level tomorrow than they are today by growing and learning more. So here's the mindset that everybody needs to focus on. Are you a golfer by any chance of ever follow Tom Watson? I only live on a golf course. I accidentally take the balls that golfers have hit. I did that once or twice and then hit in the house. No, I'm not a golfer.
Starting point is 01:11:00 I'm sorry. Well, Tom Watson, he won five British Opens, which is a major. And they say, how do you do so well? And he says, the weather's bad. And they said, what does that have to do with it? And he said, well, when I'm playing good, I only have 20 competitors, really, that can play at my level. And when the weather's bad, only five, I have to beat.
Starting point is 01:11:22 because I love bad weather. Wow. But here's the thing. If you're a leader, we're in a time of massive disruption. Yeah. And if you love the disruption, if you know how to lead your people in the midst of disruption, it's like the bear story, you know, the two hikers in the woods and the bear charges them. And the first hikers like, run, the bear's going to eat is the second hikers tie in a shoe.
Starting point is 01:11:46 And the first hiker says, why are you tying your shoe? And the second hiker says, I don't have to outrun the bear. I just have to outrun you. That's right. And so if you're a leader today, that's what you got to do. You've got to outrun the people who are frozen and wanting it to go back to the way it was. I've got good news. The way it's going to be is better, but we've got to create it.
Starting point is 01:12:10 And that's what the book is about. How do you lead people to create a future that's better than what we have today? I love it. I love it. And I have to think, Tom, and I don't want to speak for you. But I have to think as someone who grew up, seeing your dad impact in a positive way, tens of millions of people, hundreds of millions of people, you probably feel a bit of, I don't know, an obligation or a calling to reach out and say,
Starting point is 01:12:38 there is a better way to do this. I think it's in my genes. You know, growing up, dad told me and my sisters, whatever you want to do, I'll support you. Just do it with 100% integrity. and 100% effort. And that's what we do. That's what we do. And so when you see a time of disruption like we're in
Starting point is 01:13:00 and knowing that technological convergence and the political world scene and all these things are just going to amp up what's happening, more people are hurting, which means there are more people willing to try what works, something new, something different. And that's where we are. And they're crying out for leaders in every area.
Starting point is 01:13:21 And I think they're rising up. People criticize young people for not being easily led. I think they just have higher standards. They want to be led by the right kind of leader. So the best way for folks to get 10 leadership virtues for disruptive times, I'm assuming, go to Ziegler.com. Best way to get it? That's the best way to get it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:44 And while they're there, I got to tell you something, Tom, my desk is piled with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, but. books from your dad, from you. I've got my planner here for the day. But you've got two things that you also do that I was blissfully unaware of, but God willing, I'll get to at some point. You've got the Ziegler Speakers Institute and the Ziegler Legacy Certification. You mind giving everybody just a snapshot of what those are? Yeah, there's really three things that we do, Jeff, in supporting leaders. First, as we help them through the Speakers Institute give a great keynote speech, designing it so that people take action. That's really what a great speech does as it gets people to take action.
Starting point is 01:14:28 And then there are people who come through who want to take the Ziegler content and train their own organization with it. That's what the Ziegler legacy program is all about and certification. And then we have coaches that we equip to coach people one-on-one and small groups so that they can take the Ziegler philosophy and embed it in their life so they can have balanced success. And then we have new programs coming out on coach leadership, which is based on the new book that's out, which is really for leaders who want to understand, how do I lead into the next, you know, one of the commercials before I came on was about the reset or I call it
Starting point is 01:15:09 the reimagination, right? How do we lead into the future? And that's what that program is all about. So you can find all those at Ziegler.com. Tom, I am eternally. grateful that you can make some time for us. I am, I say it again, I'm a devoted student follower fan. I don't know, pick a term that works for you. I just love what the whole Ziegler family has done through the years, and I wish you nothing but great success. And hopefully I'll pass through one of those at some point and actually shake your hand and thank you in person. That would be awesome. We look forward to having you. Thank you so much. That is Tom Ziegler. You've got to check out this book, 10 Leadership Virtues for Discik.
Starting point is 01:15:50 disruptive times. And I'm telling you, if you are a leader, you've got to understand that there are new ways of doing things. If you are, you're an employee and you're thinking, man, my company is not doing what I wanted to do or or this boss is just like one of those micromanagers and he doesn't get the, the big picture or she doesn't understand. Check it out. Ziegler.com. Z-I-G-L-A-R. Ziegler.com. What do you do with students that are transgendered in schools? Do you turn it all upside down? All in. side out? Or do you do something to make everybody safe? We'll figure that out. Jeff Katz in today for Glenn. It's the Glenn Beck program. Life is about being active, whether it's about going on your daily tasks or exercising. You know you're well when you're regularly active. But what happens when being active actually hurts by the end of the day? This is the position I found myself in a number of years ago. Everything I wanted to do in my daily life, all of the activity it called for was held captive
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Starting point is 01:18:14 identify as females is wrong and is endangering them. Doesn't this tie back to what we talked about a couple of moments ago? And why is the left, it seems to me, just trying to, I don't know, are they trying to erase women? 1-88-727-Beck, 3-8-727-B-E-C. Michelle's in Idaho. Hey, Michelle, welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Nope. Steve is in New Jersey. My mistake.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Steve, welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Hey, how's it going, Jeff? Fine, thank you. Yeah, about the whole, like, transgender thing in schools about, like, I mean, I'm sure you remember about the story that came out of, what was it, a loud encounter of Virginia? Yeah, yeah, it's right up the road for me. Yeah, the boy in the skirt. Yep. That was nuts.
Starting point is 01:19:03 And when that whole thing broke, I was, like, it was, I was listening to Ben Shapiro. while I was driving to work, and it just, it was the most enraging thing. And, like, I have a little daughter myself, and when she gets to be that age, I'm genuinely scared for her well-being, you know? Like, I don't want any that garbage. No. And Steve, let me ask you a question, my friend. You and I are dads. We each have daughters.
Starting point is 01:19:32 What's our first obligation, right? We protect our daughters. Exactly. to do anything and everything. And I think the, what was it, Scott Smith? I can't remember his first name, but I think he, I don't think he did enough, but he was still arrested for it. Like, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:19:52 Yeah, it's insane. It's insane. Steve, I appreciate the call, sir. Thank you so much. Do we have time here, Michelle in Idaho? Welcome, quickly. Ten seconds, Michelle. Yeah, I just wanted to make the point.
Starting point is 01:20:04 And every time I hear about gender and transgender, I just get the feeling. Well, it's not a feeling. They just want to erase women. And it's an assault on gender itself. I really think it's because they want to just reduce everybody to a worker status. And we're all- Michelle, I appreciate it. It's the Glenn Beck program.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Absolutely no doubt. Former Brooklyn Center Minnesota police officer Kim Potter shot and killed Dante Wright. Was it an honest mistake? Famed. Law professor Alan Ders. answers that question next on the Glenn Beck program. You've heard me talking about my pillow for years and how it's changed the way I sleep. Mike Lindell, the inventor of my pillow, fitted me personally for my own my pillow because I told him, I said, I don't think I really like him.
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Starting point is 01:22:36 Remind you, you've got to check out the blaze.com and glenbeck.com for all the information that you need to get through the day. I have to set the scene just a little bit. I want to flash back to the 1970s. I'm going to 77, 78. I was in junior high school. Nice Jewish kid, Oxford Circle section of Philadelphia. And I heard there were a bunch of Nazis that were going to march someplace in Illinois. And the guy who was defending them was a Jewish law professor, Alan Dershowitz.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Now, I developed an unbelievable hatred for the good professor Dershowitz when I was a child in junior high school. And I actually went to Skokie, Illinois. we traveled on school buses, not an easy trip to make. In my later years, I'd like to think I've grown a little bit. I've become slightly more educated and informed, and I realize exactly what it was that Alan Dershowitz did back then, and frankly, Alan Dershowitz has done throughout his career, and I'm just thrilled that he is joining us for a couple of moments today.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Professor, thank you so much for being here. Well, thank you for reminding me of Kovskokie. Of course, I hated the Nazis. I wish they would slip on banana peels and bang their heads and die. But I also don't want the government to tell us what we can hear, what we can see, and what we can watch. I was not only defending the Nazis who I hated, but I was also defending Martin Luther King, who wanted to march through other places that found his marching offensive. So, you know, I've always defended people I despise and defended the rights of people who I don't agree with it.
Starting point is 01:24:19 For example, even on Kim Potter that we're talking about today, I'm generally not a supporter of police actions and police overreaction and police shooting. I'm a criminal lawyer. I usually cross-examine policemen on the stand. I expose their misstatements. But when it comes to something like this, an honest mistake that anybody could have made. Look, you get in your car, you drive down the street, a kid jumps in front of you, and you slam your foot on the brakes. If I mistake, you slammed your foot on the gas, and the child died. Horrible, horrible tragedy.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Not a crime in America, except apparently in Minnesota if you're a policewoman. And this is a terrible, terrible miscarriage of justice. And then it was compounded by this vindictive judge, this lawless judge who denied her bail. The statute says you must grant bail if she's not a flight risk, if she's not a danger to the community. and if the appeal is in frivolous, and you have to make findings, and the judge made no findings on that, and you couldn't make findings, because of course she's not a danger. Of course, she's not a flight risk, and of course the appeal is in frivolous, but she's in jail now, unjustifiably.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Alan Dershowitz is joining us talking a little bit about this Kim Potter matter. This is one of the things that I find so fascinating about your perspective, professor, is that you're right. Your history is a criminal defense attorney. I've seen some of your cross-examination of police officers. I was a cop and man, I wasn't rooting for you, but boy, you always knew exactly what you were doing. So the fact that we are in agreement on this, so explain to all of us who are not brilliant lawyers and talented professors of law. How can something like this, which to me anyway is a miscarriage of justice, how can this happen?
Starting point is 01:26:12 Well, first of all, Thomas Jefferson once said put a problem to a plowman or a professor. you're more likely to get a good answer from the plowment, from the ordinary person, the person with common sense. So don't put down anybody who's not a lawyer. I grew up on the streets of Brooklyn, New York. Smartest people I knew were there. In any event, the government concedes, the state concedes that it was an accident. They don't contend, like some people contend, oh, she did it purposely, and then just made an excuse saying she wanted to pull her taser. They concede it was an accident.
Starting point is 01:26:43 But they claim it was reckless, that because of her experience, 26 years. You know, she never used the gun. All over 26 years, she never, ever fired a shot, either from her taser or from her pistol. This is the first time she ever did it. And what the state is saying is that she was reckless. She should have known. Look, the taser is different. When you look at the picture, it's different. It's a different color. It's a different size. It's a different shape. Right. But she was confronted with an instantaneous life and death decision. Her partner was leaning into the car. There were pedestrians in front of the car.
Starting point is 01:27:19 This kid who had a record of having a gun was jumping back in the car where he might have had his gun and putting his foot on the gas, which he did eventually, and ultimately he was stopped. What if she hadn't fired? What if she had let him get away? And he had killed three people. She'd have been put on trial for that. So, you know, when a policeman has no choice, you know, whenever you make a tough life
Starting point is 01:27:44 and death decision, you could make a mistake. And the law forgives mistakes. She should not be in jail. She should be taking remedial courses, maybe being sued civilly for making the mistake, but not prison. So she's being held, as you point out, without bail, which seems to be a violation of what the statute is. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:05 In Minnesota, I don't know. This just sounds like something that happens in, I don't know, the old Soviet Union. disappear. You're held in prison. There are no real charges against you. I mean, you're convicted of this, but you're supposed to be released. So is there a way for her to fight back, or is that system in Minnesota because of Keith Ellison, I would say in some cases, just totally bankrupt and corrupt? Well, Keith Ellison is a very bad
Starting point is 01:28:33 attorney general. He was a very bad member of Congress. He was a good friend of Farrakhan. Lewis Farrakhan, the most notorious anti-Semite and modern history. By the way, the second most notorious anti-Semite in modern history is Bishop Desmond Tutu, who just died and is being praised all over the world by President Obama, by President Clinton, by President Biden. Everybody is praising this guy, and he was a rampant anti-Semite. He talked about the Jews controlling everything and doing everything bad. He talked about the Holocaust being not as bad as apartheid.
Starting point is 01:29:15 He compared Israel to Nazi Germany. He's being praised all over the place. We have to start telling the truth about people with mixed legacies. But, you know, let's get back to Kim Potter, because the problem in the world today is people pick sides. If you're against Kim Potter, she's evil. You know what the prosecution is doing now? They're asking for extra time.
Starting point is 01:29:38 The usual sentence is seven years for negligent or reckless, homicide. They want 10 or 15 because they say, not only did she kill, right, she endangered other people. No, no, no. She tried to save the lives of other people, but they want to throw the book at her. They want to pile on and put her in jail basically for the next 10 or 15 years. This is Kafkaesque. This is not the way the American system should work. You're right
Starting point is 01:30:07 when you compare it to Cuba and China and Iran and in Beaver-Ruse, where there's no accountability. And the American system of justice, an honest mistake is not punished criminally, period. So what about her attorneys? Are her defense attorneys doing the proper things, or are they competent? I don't know. I don't know them. I know that they should be filing for bail immediately.
Starting point is 01:30:32 And, in fact, the statute says that when you file for bail, the application has to be considered immediately. and so they should be filing for bail. They should have filed for bail before Christmas. If I had been the lawyer, I would have, on the eve of Christmas, demanded that she'd be home with their family for Christmas. But they haven't done that. And I don't know, they may have a strategy, they may have a tactic. They may be thinking of the long term of making sure that they win on the appeal.
Starting point is 01:31:00 But I would be, I think, doing it a little differently, and I would be more aggressive right now and trying to get her out on bail. Alan Dershowitz is joining us for a couple of moments, and what an honor and a pleasure it is to have him here. So obviously the case is being appealed. I know you don't do predictions, but if you did predictions, does this conviction get overturned? Well, I have to tell you, look, the killing occurred while the jury was deliberating in the Derek Chauvin case. And it was in the same area. Court of Appeals, it'll be six months later.
Starting point is 01:31:33 It's a different time. if her name was Jane Smith and the case were in a different place, and we weren't living in the age of George Floyd, of course she'd be acquitted on appeal. But I can't make any general predictions considering the fact that she is who she is. And the environment is what it is, and identity politics has taken over from justice. You know, the Bible says to a judge, you shall not recognize faces. no identity politics. That's why we have a blindfold over the statue of justice. You can't peek underneath the blindfold and say, you know, black victim, white woman, a police officer.
Starting point is 01:32:16 That's not the way justice is supposed to be administered. It should be the same regardless of the racial components, regardless of whether a person is a policeman or an older person putting his foot on the gas instead of the break. We have to have a single standard of justice for all. If her conviction is not overturned at the state level, does she have an avenue to appeal that? Or does she have to get comfortable with the idea of seven to ten years in a state prison? Well, she does have the right to appeal to seek certiorary in the Supreme Court. Only a couple of percentage of cases are given certiorary.
Starting point is 01:32:53 And she does have the right to appeal federally. But her best chance of getting a reversal, obviously, is in the state of pelts. at courts. So no, she shouldn't get comfortable, but she should understand that, you know, appeals are very hard. Typically, appeals are successful in criminal cases and less than 5% of the time. I'm lucky. I've won most of my homicide murder cases. I think I've won, I don't know, 25 out of 30 or something like that, something in that range. So it depends who you have as your lawyer, obviously, depends on the fact of the case, it depends on the circumstances. But a killing from a homicide conviction is always an uphill battle.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Wow. Now, I want to thank you for addressing the Bishop Tutu matter as well. And I just have to share this with you. And the last time you were on my show locally, I think I mentioned this. My son, brilliant kid, I've referred to him as her future litigator since he was about 18 months old. He could argue whether the sun was shining. But when Archbishop Tutu passed away, I mentioned what an unrepentant anti-sense. Semite he was, and my son was all over me up one side and down the other, and I thought,
Starting point is 01:34:06 but you have to know the totality. It doesn't take away from accomplishments in fighting apartheid, but to pretend that he wasn't what he was, it does a disservice to everyone. It does, and it also encourages people to good people to do anti-Semitic things and bad things, because they'll get away with it. They'll be excused for it. It'll be covered by their good things. Look, Jefferson did good things. Washington did good things. Lincoln did good things. And some of the same people who were praising Tutu and want to build a statute of him and want to canonize him are the ones who are trying to tear down the statutes of our founding fathers. And so this is a good time to think about how to deal with people with mixed legacies. Tutu did some great
Starting point is 01:34:51 things on behalf of his own people. He helped end apartheid. He should be praised for that. But he was a Syrian with anti-Semites. I mean, he said the most horrible things about Jews. And when he was called on it, you know what his answer was? I can't be an anti-Semite. My dentist's name is Dr. Cohen. You know, some of my best friends. Some of my best dentists are Jews. And, you know, he just went on and on with his anti-Semitism. He was the most influential anti-Semite of our age because he impacted people like your son and my children and my grandchildren who think the world of Bishop Tutu, and you're entitled to think the world of him, but you have to know the bad along with the good. And when the bad is anti-Semitism, it can't be buried, particularly
Starting point is 01:35:39 at a time when the growing anti-Semitism on college campuses and around the world. That's why I intruded last night on the Fox News when I was on the different subject. I said, I have to take a minute just to tell the world the truth about anti-Semitism. And I've gotten some pushback on it, some people have criticized me, some people have praised me for it. But that's who I am. I will always speak to truth to power. Well, I'm sitting here, Cvelling, and I am most appreciative of you. Have you taken a stand?
Starting point is 01:36:09 Oh, good. Send my best to Glenn, please, okay? I will. Absolutely. Happy New Year and everybody. Thank you, sir. Thanks. That is Professor Alan Dershowitz, and the perspective that he brings,
Starting point is 01:36:21 I think, is so fascinating and so unique, and I'm so grateful that he could make some time for us. there's a woman who died Sarah Weddington you may or may not know who she was or what she did I'll let you know in just a moment it is Jeff Kat sitting in today for Glenn it's the Glenn Beck program if you're living with aches and pains especially if they're frequent and nagging and relentless I want you to take a moment and think back to the last time you really felt good can you even remember what it felt like now here's even a more important question what would you give to go back to feeling like that again maybe it would just be nice to take a
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Starting point is 01:37:40 Find out more about this offer. Feel the difference. Relieffactor.com. It's the Glenn Beck program. Jeff Katz. Happy to be sitting in again today for Glenn. And thanks again to Professor Alan Dershowitz. I forgave him long ago.
Starting point is 01:37:57 Not that he's staying up nights worrying about whether Jeff Katz and Hanover, Virginia, likes him or dislikes him. I just, I've come to admire people. who have a stand that's sincere. I think it's one of the reasons that you and I agree, Glenn is such a great guy. This is about our freedom. It is about our ability to speak freely.
Starting point is 01:38:25 We don't need any protections to say, hey, good morning, hope it's a nice day. Boy, those are nice shoes. We don't need protections for that. We need protections when somebody says this president stinks, or that member of Congress is a terrible person, or that senator is doing awful things. That's when we need protection.
Starting point is 01:38:50 And you make no mistake about this, whether it is what we call cancel culture, or the folks at CNN or MSNBC or any of these other outlets who, quite frankly, have declared war on anybody who disagree with them. They started in recent history with former President Trump. You and I saw it day after day
Starting point is 01:39:14 after day. Trying to delegitimize President Trump. Trying to stymie President Trump. Trying to kneecap President Trump every single opportunity that they had. Make no mistake, it wasn't just an
Starting point is 01:39:30 attack on Donald Trump. That's an attack on every American. every one of us who went and cast a ballot said, you know, I've seen all the career politicians. I've seen it my whole flipping life. And every time there's an election, I hear the same,
Starting point is 01:39:48 it's the most important election of all time. Most important election of all time. And then they get back and they do exactly the same stuff. And then they have the nerve to come to me. Hi, we're calling from your local political party. Pick one. I don't care. We'd like some money from you.
Starting point is 01:40:02 Yeah, I'm good, thanks. I'm keeping my money for my family. I'm keeping my money so that I can, I don't know, buy something or donate. Oh, God forbid, right? I like charity. That's what we need protections from. Our ability to stand up and say,
Starting point is 01:40:25 this is what I believe in you're not going to silence me. And you're not going to cancel me. But that's what is happening every single solitary day. I mean, these attacks on. Former President Trump continue. They are that terrified that he is going to run again. They are that scared that 80 million Americans who voted for him will vote for him again. I don't care which side of the aisle you find yourself on.
Starting point is 01:40:58 I really don't. I don't. Believe what you believe. Vote whichever way you want to vote. Do what's right for you and your family. but don't deny those rights to other people. Don't cancel everybody who disagrees with you or says something you don't like. The woke culture is insane.
Starting point is 01:41:23 It's gone absolutely over the edge. And I don't know how or where or when that nonsense stops. Who was Sarah Weddington? I'll give you the answer to that in just a moment. sitting in for Glenn. It is the Glenn Beck program. Ever since he tried the Rough Greens for the first time, my dog, Uno, has changed. He's a completely different dog. I hear from people all the time in the audience. I mean, hundreds and hundreds of letters have come in who have had the same experience with their dog.
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Starting point is 01:43:04 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program. Join the conversation. 888727 Beck. It's the Glenn Beck program. Jeff Katz, happy to be sitting in for Glenn again today. Glennbeck.com, the blaze.com. I asked a question, who was Sarah Weddington? It's not a name most of us know.
Starting point is 01:43:31 In fact, honest with you, I had no idea who she was. Now, she died the other day. She was 76 years old. All right. You sit in and think to yourself, well, that's good or that's bad or it's no consequence to me, Jeff, because I still don't know who she was. So why do I care? Well, she was the attorney who filed the Roe v. Wade case back in 19. Now, I don't necessarily talk a lot about this.
Starting point is 01:44:10 I'm compelled to talk about this Sarah Weddington, though, and I'll tell you why. There's no question from what I've read, and I had to bring myself up to speed after I saw headlines that said, lawyer and Roe v. Wade dies. Because they didn't even mention her name in most of the headlines. I mean, that was the case, right? Roe v. Wade, she died. Okay. So I sat down and I said, you know what? to devote some time to finding out who this woman was. I just didn't know. I'd like to tell you that right off the top of my head I could tell you everything about her.
Starting point is 01:44:42 I couldn't. So I had to go and do a little research. She appeared to be brilliant. Apparently was an incredibly talented attorney. Students who had her as a law professor said she was a very, very good professor. Folks who had interacted with her as an attorney said, She had a very real talent and skill when it came to writing in the legal area. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:17 But you know what else people were talking about? I didn't stop at the news reports. Kind of went online to poke around and just see what people were talking about in forums and discussion places. There were tea people, I kid you not, without a shred of iron. not understanding at all what they were really saying, who said, oh, what a shame she's died. Oh, it's so sad that she died at such a young age. And I thought, this is the attorney who opened up these floodgates in 1973. If you would have come to me, 25, 30 years ago, said, Jeff.
Starting point is 01:46:12 what do you, well, what do you think about abortion? You know what my answer would have been? I don't. I don't. I don't know. It just wasn't, wasn't something that I was overly concerned with. I wish I could tell you otherwise. I wish I could tell you, boy, I've always understood this or that. I didn't.
Starting point is 01:46:32 I just, I, it just wasn't on my radar. And if you would have pushed a little bit more, oh, come on, Jeff, you know, like pro choice, pro life. Come on, which one? probably 25, 30 years ago, maybe a little bit longer. I probably said, well, make a choice, whatever. I don't know. Your body, your choice.
Starting point is 01:46:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good for me. Okay. And then this interesting thing happened about 21 years ago. Heidi and I are married, and we want to have a family. And so we get the good news. Hey, congratulations. Heidi's pregnant. Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Now, I remind Heidi on a regular basis. I probably shouldn't, but I do. She was of, quote, advanced maternal age. Anybody over the age of 30, apparently, was of advanced maternal age. Now, what did that mean? It meant, number one, I had a lot of jokes I could make, and I really couldn't make them because it, it would wind up in a very sad situation.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Something would have been thrown at me. But the other thing it meant was this. Because Heidi was, quote, of an advanced maternal age, we had these regular ultrasounds. It was like every couple of weeks. So I remember the first one. And we went and doctor showed us the picture. And I looked at it and I thought,
Starting point is 01:48:15 I don't see anything. And then I said, I don't see anything. And then Heidi, like, hit me with her arm. But I don't. I don't see anything. And the doctor said, right over here, see? And I went, ow. I thought that was, like, you know, somebody made a mark with a magic marker.
Starting point is 01:48:33 No, no, no, that's your child. Oh, wow. Fantastic. And I thought, eh. And then we go back a couple of weeks later. Now, now I can see where the little mark is. I'm no kidding. Is that like a tiny little cats?
Starting point is 01:48:49 That's so nondescript. I mean, I don't get it. Okay. And then, I don't know, two weeks later, whatever it was. Now, now he looks like a bean. Honest to goodness. He looks like a lima bean. I swear to you, the kid looked like a lime of bean.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Everybody did that, right? In like third, fourth grade, same assignment given to every child in America. Here's a couple of lime of beans. Now you go home and you get a glass. And you take a paper towel and you wet it. and you put that inside the glass and then you put the bean on the outside. That's what this kid looked like. He looked like a flipping lima bean.
Starting point is 01:49:23 And I used to talk about it. I was so proud. You know, I was a first time father. There's a picture of the bean. And I called him the bean all the time. And then, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:49:35 a couple of weeks later, all of a sudden the bean has like little tiny legs and feet and I think it's an eye. I don't know what it is. But it's clearly not. a lima bean anymore, not that it ever was. And as we progress and progress and progress, well, it's clear it's not a lima bean. And it's not a puppy. And it's, it's not a phone. It's not an office chair. It's clear. This is, this is a real, honest to goodness, little living human being. and my world changed at that point.
Starting point is 01:50:18 Completely and totally. I mean, I talk about a 180. There was no choice here. There was a child there. This was just something inside that said, you're a father and you have an obligation to protect that child. And that's where I am now. I mean, Harry's 20 years old at this point.
Starting point is 01:50:52 Long ago stopped being a bean. And he's a brilliant kid. But I just think the contrast of people saying, oh, poor Sarah Weddington, she unleashed this horrible, horrible thing on America in 1973. But it's so sad she died at age 76. And you think about all of those people who could have accomplished great things.
Starting point is 01:51:22 Maybe there was a doctor or a scientist who would have found a cure for this or that, but because of Sarah Weddington, they didn't. Now, I don't want to beat up on anybody. A family is grieving the loss of another family member. I understand that. But just like Professor Alan Dershowitz said a couple of moments ago, when he was talking about Archbishop Desmond Tutu, and his virulent anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 01:51:52 What a professor Dershia would say? He said, it's the totality, right? You can't get away from that bad thing. It's part of who you are. I jump forward just a little bit. Heidi and I are still in the family-creating business. And we've got Julia. And I've shared with you.
Starting point is 01:52:19 Julia's got a variety of challenges and special needs, 18 years old now, but that's chronologically, developmentally about 18 months old. So just as we're realizing about a year into Julia's life, oh my gosh, we have no idea what's going on here. We really don't. Did we do something? What did we do, in fact, was our first question. What did we do? Why is she going to have these disabilities. Why is this going to happen? Why isn't that going to happen? What did we do? What did we do? What do we do? We find Heidi's pregnant again. And we go to the doctor and the doctor says, yep, yeah, you're pregnant. And without missing a beat, without taking a breath, says to us, now given what's going on with the other one, if you want to take care of this, you need to do it quickly.
Starting point is 01:53:30 Now, I'm not the brightest guy in the room, but I understood what that doctor was saying. Given the difficulties, disabilities, challenges that the other one is going through, and that other one, by the way, would be my beautiful princess, Julia. if we want to avoid those sorts of problems, if we want to not deal with those sorts of issues with this one, we need to do something quickly. Well, that wasn't an option for us. And this one is now an amazing young man 17 years old.
Starting point is 01:54:17 I just think we have an obligation. I really do. and I don't mean to get on the soapbox or preach or bring everybody down. It's so mottling, Jeff. My God, I know. But we got to care. We've just got to value human life. I just felt compelled to share that with you.
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Starting point is 01:56:20 That's Tuttle Twinsbeck.com and get 35% off today. It's the Glenn Beck program. Jeff Katz in for Glenn today. Did you ever show up in court dressed like an elf? No, of course not, because you are a sane, rational human being, and I'm hoping you've never actually been a defendant in a criminal. case. But that's what happened over in England. And I said an elf, E-L-F, right? Just came through the whole elfin season, right? Elves very, very popular during the month of December. And now, not so much.
Starting point is 01:56:53 The story involves a gentleman, and I do use that term loosely, Janiel Verrainer, 60 years old. He lives in Chatham. He showed up to his latest criminal court hearing. dressed as an elf. Now, could be a joke, could be a goof, or he could just be crazy, right? Well, he's not just crazy. He's dangerous because he's 60 years old, but guess what? He, quote, identifies as a five-year-old girl. And what has he done?
Starting point is 01:57:33 He's gone around that area kissing little girls on the lips. repeatedly in multiple locations, multiple girls. He's been arrested for this. He had a basically a keepaway order. He's not supposed to be around children, guess what? Continues to find himself around children, continues to go up and just kiss on the lips, random little girls that he finds.
Starting point is 01:58:02 Oh, also a 15-month prison sentence. And his latest visit to court, he is dressed as an elf. Now, at some point, you and I have to stop indulging fantasies. He's not an elf. He's not a five-year-old girl. What he is, by definition, is a pedophile. And he needs to be arrested and prosecuted and sent to prison.
Starting point is 01:58:37 Now, I don't know why we are. so terrified of simply standing up and saying, how about doing the right things for the right reasons? How about protecting our families? Oh, the last thing I've got to share with you, Joe Biden has, in fact, conceded there is no federal solution to COVID. Can we hear that little snippet from slow-mo, Joe? Look, there is no federal solution. This gets solved at a state level. I'm looking at Governor Sununu on the board here. He talks about that a lot. And it ultimately gets down to where the rubber meets the road.
Starting point is 01:59:17 And that's where the patient is in need of help or preventing the need for help. This is the same president who said, elect me and I will beat COVID. The same White House team that said it's all about presidential leadership. It's all about the federal government. and in a rare moment of clarity, and perhaps he just stumbled inadvertently into the truth, Joe Biden says there's no federal cure for COVID. Think about that, will you? Somebody needs to tell Dr. Fauci, right?
Starting point is 01:59:53 Hey, remember, stay in touch, if you would, The Jeff Kat Show on Facebook and the website, The Jeffcat Show.com. Thanks so much to Glenn and Dom and Sarah and Martin for letting me sit in for a couple of days. it is Jeff Katz, and this is the Glenn Beck program.

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