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Episode Date: September 2, 2025Former Obama adviser Van Jones claimed on CNN that DEI policies throughout the country got “ridiculous” and admitted he’s happy DEI is dying. Filling in for Glenn, Stu looks back at the crazines...s of 2020 and how far we’ve come as a nation since then. Is President Trump the main reason some sanity has come back to America? Pepsi announced it is ending its DEI policies after being confronted by reporter Robby Starbuck. Stu warns that even though companies are walking back DEI policies, they could come right back under a Democrat president. Stu and Jeffy go through a list of beliefs of Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling, which makes people in Hollywood uncomfortable. A recent CNN headline claimed we may never know the motive behind the Minneapolis Catholic school shooting. Has Trump derangement syndrome become an actual mental diagnosis? Ireland citizen Rosie O’Donnell issued an apology for claiming the Minneapolis school shooter was a “Republican MAGA person.” Why did she feel the need to comment on the atrocity at all? Stu and Jeffy look at Australia’s failed gun control laws as the Left continues to call for a gun ban. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Well, Stu and Jeffie in for Glenn this week and some fascinating developments.
I kind of wish Glenn was here for this one because you don't necessarily hear the words Van
Van Jones said something sane often on this program.
You do not.
I will say, you know, I don't want, look, I don't want Van Jones.
He's anywhere near the government.
I don't want him running things.
I don't want him as our green czar.
I don't want any of that to occur.
He's pretty good on television, though, I think.
When it comes down to the people, they prop up on CNN and give jobs to for endless
decades and no one can understand why, he actually...
Yeah, he's done a good job for them.
What are the better ones, I think?
Yeah, he's done a good job for them.
Would you agree with that?
Yeah, he's done a good job for them.
That's fine.
Let him stay there.
Yes.
Stay at CNN.
You're doing great, Van.
Just stay, don't try to run the government anymore.
Just no more of that.
Yeah, that's a problem, though, because he dips his hand in.
He's, you know, I'm sure very much still tight.
I will say, though, one of the things that I look for when I'm looking for somebody who commentator on one of these shows.
And this is the same thing for sports.
You know the same guys on sports.
Stephen A. Smith's kind of like this, where you just don't always know where he's going to be on something.
You know, I can't tell you necessarily before the show starts exactly what will be.
said. And you can't say that with almost every person on CNN.
That's for sure. You know the direction they're going. You know exactly what, what's her name,
Abby, whatever her name is. Every single issue, you know exactly what she's going to say.
Aaron Burnett, you know exactly what she's going to say before the show starts.
Sure, that's them. I get little value out of people in the media like that. I don't,
I mean, I know what the base slum.
an opinion is of both sides going into a show, right?
Absolutely.
If I want to hear a comment, I want to read a column, if I want to get some insight, I want
somebody who at least occasionally is a surprise me and challenge me.
And that's where you get the clips with these at particular host is a guest that comes on and says
something different than what the narrative they push because the narrative they push is
that's their narrative.
Right.
All the time.
Those guys, a lot of them just go down the same line over and over and again.
And you know going into the show.
It's almost like, you know, it's the.
end of the fast and furious sequel. They're going to get away with it. Right?
Like, you know, that's what you paid for. That's what you paid for. You get in there and you know
what you're going to get. And there's something nice on the, there's something to be said for a rely. You don't
want someone who's crazily all over the board all the time with no consistency. But like, I like someone
who's going to step up and say, hey, look, you know my side of this issue. My side's wrong on this part.
Here's why. That's something. And Van Jones, at least occasionally does do that. And I do think it gives
him more credibility in your average crazy left-wing person.
The reason I bring this up today, Jeffie, is Van Jones commentary.
Abby Phillip is her name because this is the show that Van Jones was on.
And I guess they did a Saturday panel.
Van Jones is on the program to get a love the Saturday panels.
And he's talking about DEI.
He's talking about the way woke nonsense has permeated our workplaces.
Yeah, all corporations.
You know, how do you, Jeffie, exist in a world like that?
Because I...
You do not seem to be the guy that would embrace any wokeness anywhere.
That's because you just automatically tell the HR people, you don't concern me.
And they leave you alone.
Yeah.
And they leave you alone.
That is pretty much your policy.
Yeah.
That's the thing around here.
Jeffie will come in and the first conversation you have with him is so incredibly offensive.
He's already moved on.
Yeah.
Yeah, people just move on.
You almost don't even get involved in that.
Like, you somehow just go around the HR department.
This is what Van Jones said.
He said, for some companies, the new message to employees is check your politics and your activism at the door when you come to work.
This is the intro to his segment.
He said CEOs are making one thing clear.
The office is not the public square.
And they're probably not wrong about that.
Now, Philip went on to talk about this.
Jones.
Van Jones says, this is not going to make me popular.
Now, Ken, this is the thing with Jones in that this is going to make him popular, right?
Like, this actually is something the American people are fine with, but it's not going to make him popular at CNN, I guess is what he was saying.
This is not going to make me popular.
But I'm not mad about this change because it got ridiculous.
I mean, I'm an employer.
And at a certain point, your Slack channel just turns into Vietnam every other day.
Because something happened that had nothing to do with work.
With the workplace.
Right.
He says, this is not camp guys.
we're trying to make money,
which is funny to coming from a guy
who was formerly a communist,
at least formerly a communist.
Now,
he says,
so I enjoyed the moment for a while
when we were having our reckonings
about everything.
We done wrecked,
okay?
Yeah.
We went from reckoning to wrecked.
We need to move on.
I think that's where
the American people certainly are.
I think so, too.
I don't know that the corporate
people are there yet, though.
You know, they may say that they are.
We were just talking about this.
The corporations, you know, are saying that they've moved on from the, yeah, we've
gotten rid of those departments and no problem.
But they've just kind of just retitled it.
There is some of that definitely going on.
Yeah, there's definitely some of that going on.
Yeah, it's not, yeah, it's not DEI.
Right.
I got it.
It's not, you know, that's, what's his face?
Fauci used to always say that.
Well, that's not gain a function.
It's not gain a function.
Well, it is.
just call it something else.
That was the most infuriating exchange, maybe of all time.
But I mean, it is that.
It's just that you're calling it something else.
And that's, we're all rant Paul in that exchange, right?
We're all like, wait a minute, but this is what it is.
And he's like, and many corporations are that way with the DEAI stuff.
So, I mean, I don't know that it, you know, if it's hidden better or, but at least we've
we're making headway for sure.
I think that's true.
And that's important, like that we note that.
I've said this a few times lately in it because I've been, uh,
doing on it a little bit, if you will. But we all have this weird connection to 2020,
like early 2020, when everybody was locked down, right? There was, you know, famously Trump,
Fauci on stage saying two weeks to slow the spread, and then it was six weeks, I think,
to slow the spread. Now, if you were in California, it was 837 weeks to slow the spread. But, like,
you know, Texas was different, right? We've talked about this sort of two-tier country we built,
which allowed places like Texas and Florida to go back to pretty much normal life in a short period of time.
And we weren't perfect.
No.
I mean, we had to the imagination.
But definitely we were back to the new normal.
Yeah.
But I went out to dinner after taping a show on May 1st, 2020 indoor dining.
Right.
Myself and my family, I say this to, and you look at me like, yeah, right.
Well, talk to somebody from a blue state and say that to him.
May 1st, 2020, I was out at an indoor dining experience in Texas.
I talked to my friends who live in New York and live in California, and they look at me like, I'm an alien.
It wasn't even a consideration.
They weren't even walking their dogs.
They were just letting the poop in the house.
Right.
That was basically where they were.
How many bodies did you step over to get to that restaurant still?
None.
Now, it was at that time 25% capacity.
but I think I remember it being weird.
It was a weird experience.
Like people were standing, you know, the waiters and waitresses like we're standing far away from you talking to you and the tables were all empty.
First of all, traffic situation was incredible.
I got to tell you again here.
I will say that.
That was awesome.
That was a pleasure.
Yes, it was.
And I'm not saying I want another pandemic to happen to help my traffic situation.
But, you know, I'm not not saying it.
But when you're sitting here and looking at that 2020 period, right, Jeffrey, we all look at that.
It's almost like it was an alien culture, right?
For sure.
This is America.
You don't do things like that.
We know it was so strange and we all feel like we live in a totally different world than April 2020.
I don't think we've had a real reckoning yet as to how bizarre summer of 2020 was.
And into 2021, not when it comes to COVID, when it comes to wokeness, when it comes to that, what we call kind of the George Floyd era, where every company comes out and makes bizarre statements about wokeness.
The example I keep coming back to is the NHL, the National Hockey League, tweeting with no explanation, trans rights are human rights.
trans women are women
like what are you talking about
you're a hockey league
I know
moving the all-star game
from Atlanta for baseball
for no reason at all at all
these things were happening and we were just like
wow this is I can't believe they went that far
and we kind of shrug our shoulders
but I'm saying as a nation for a while
we kind of shrugged our shoulders
and thought this was the new normal
So one of the reasons why I think people love Donald Trump so much
because he said, no, nope, not the new normal.
We're totally changing this.
Yeah, and if he had, I believe,
if he had gone by his gut in 2020
with the two or three weeks to slow the curve
and then say, okay, we're good.
We're good.
Get back to it.
I think that
And I will say I think he kind of did that
If you remember there was a big debate about
Donald Trump saying
We're kind of rehashing over here
It's a little off topic but if you if you allow us this
But that got us into the wolf stuff
He came out and there was a big debate at the time
Of whether we were going to be open for Easter
Remember that?
And Trump was saying yeah
The reason we were all for it is because it was like
Yeah we don't want to do it.
do this. But okay, if you're telling me it's going to be a couple of weeks, then let's do it for a
couple of weeks and we're going to move on. And all for it is a stretch, as I know you would admit.
We were not all for it. But like, I think the American people were willing. And by the way,
absolutely. We're really, I'm going back and really rehashing this now. But look at the cell phone
data of that period. People were going home and staying home before Donald Trump said word one about
two weeks to slow spread. But they knew. At that time, everyone likes to forget.
it, but at that time, a lot of people, you knew it was coming. It was a scary thing. No one knew
what it was. We found out pretty quick that it wasn't as scary as, you know, they're locking
people indoors in China. But at the time, people were pretty nervous about what was coming.
Absolutely. And didn't want to test it. And they were saying, you know what? If I can stay home for a
couple of weeks, fine. People did that basically willingly before, and people don't like to remember
this, but it's before Trump even said those words. I mean, places, places were,
emptying out. I remember going, a lot of my life is about remembering going out to dinner,
so you have to excuse me here, but I remember going out to dinner with my parents, my wife's
family who were in town, her dad and stepmom, and they were in town. And they flew in, I don't know,
it was like March 9th, 2020, and they were in town for a week. They're never leaving.
Right, right. And we went out to dinner the night before they were supposed to leave, which they left,
they did get out. It was completely empty flight. It was after the,
the quote unquote shutdown.
They were there before and left after it.
You really think we should leave?
Absolutely.
Yeah, right.
Fine.
You're fine.
Get out of here.
We went out to dinner like the night before that and went to a restaurant and there
were no shutdown orders anywhere.
This is before all that happened.
The place was a ghost town.
People made those decisions on their own, which by the way is how are society supposed to
operate?
If you're freaked out about something like that, you're supposed to make a decision for you
and your family that you want to stay home.
You get to do that.
That's how it's supposed to work.
So we went down that road and we all kind of, you know, went through that period and we know how alien that felt.
The fact that every company was folding to every left-wing demand for a period of about 18 months is just insanity.
And it doesn't, we have not fully reckoned with that period yet.
No, and Van is, you know, pretty much right.
Many of these companies did wreck it and they're wrecked because of it.
And no one, you can't, you can't do business this way.
You can't. You can't. I want to give you a little bit of a new development that has just come up, not just Van Jones comments, but some actual action and a major corporation when it comes to changing their DEI policies. This stuff is still happening. People are still waking up. Give you those details here in 60 seconds.
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He does deep dives on them and then they seem to
they seem to buckle man. And he says, hey, we're about to do a
story on you and they're like, okay, here's all of our
changes. Like this has happened multiple times
with Robbie Starbuck. Really doing incredible
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I don't know how he got started in it, but
he seems to be at the center of a lot of these.
Him and Chris Rufo. And I think it was because
of the wrecking.
The wrecking. They went too far.
Yeah, I think it was.
And people, you know, were starting to actually pay the price.
And you saw what was going on internally in these companies.
And they decided, that's, you know, enough.
And it seems to be working.
Good for him.
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Massive news from Robbie Starbuck.
He says, I contacted PepsiCo.
These are not tiny companies.
Pepsi.
Just pick up a phone column.
To let them know, I planned on doing a story about their woke policies.
When I contacted them, they were ready to make some big job.
changes. They're just waiting for the phone calls from Robbie Starbuck and Chris Rebo.
It's like, hey, we discovered you're doing this. Okay, here's our changes. I can now exclusively
tell you what's changing. This is what from Robbie Starbuck, PepsiCo will no longer have
a DEI officer. Okay. PepsiCo will no longer have a DEI team. Okay. PepsiCo will end
DEI representation goals. PepsiCo will no longer participate in the woke HRCCEI social credit
system survey.
Woke trans-agenda activists at the HRC are losing influence and power by the day.
They will end all DEI trainings.
Can you just imagine this if you happen to be someone who's making a delicious diet wild cherry Pepsi, which is by the way, fantastic.
And you're sitting back and you're like, I just want to make freaking delicious carbonated beverages.
And you have to show up to some stupid DEI training.
And today you find out you're out of it.
What a one.
That's like a, it's like a free, a day of freedom.
You're just all of a sudden realizing my, my next week, which was going to suck,
now goes back to actual work and productivity for the American people.
I love that.
He goes on.
Instead of supplier diversity, PepsiGo is now focused on growing their small business supplier base.
They will now be centralized management of all employee groups to ensure that their activities align with the core business.
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That's how it's supposed to work.
There's more to this.
It says they will now, going forward, the strategy will be about growth and how they drive the growth of the business.
He says, I have to give their executives major credit for making these changes because these are some big changes.
You can see an email that he attaches.
And he goes on to say this, and this is part of maybe a larger picture when it comes to consolidation.
He says, keep in mind, this doesn't just affect Pepsi.
PepsiCo owns the following brands.
Gatorade, Quaker oatmeal, Chewy bars, Starbucks.
the coffees in glass that's sold at grocery stores.
They don't own all of Starbucks.
Amp Energy, Rockstar Energy,
mug root beer, Mountain Dew, Sobe,
Cap and Crunch cereal.
So there's no more DEI on that ship.
They were doing all that stuff with a weird all-Berry cereal.
That's not going to happen.
Well, that might continue.
King vitamin cereal, Sabra, hummus,
Anjima, tropical.
I wonder, do we get on Chamima back on the bottles?
No, I think we lost her.
I want her back.
I don't know.
That's one of the,
That's one of those central moments of the wake woke era when they took this poor black woman off the bottle for no reason, even though African Americans loved it.
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and so much stuff going on, including this Robbie Starbuck development with Pepsi,
where he has contacted them.
He said he'd let them know he was going to write an article about their woke DEI policies.
I love that.
I love it.
I just find it like, okay, so you started going down the list of companies under the PepsiCo umbrella.
I mean, that's a lot of companies.
They own many, many businesses underneath them.
So the head of PepsiCo.
He's sitting around saying,
Just wait until Robbie calls.
If Robbie doesn't call, we're not going to do anything.
I don't know.
Maybe, I guess.
It feels like the type of thing where, you know how we have plans at the White House and throughout the Department of Defense that are, their plays like, if a nuclear bomb goes off in, you know, Albuquerque, how do we respond to that?
And if, because you can't just come up with a new plan.
one goes off. In Albuquerque, you need to get a great, give me the file. What do we have?
And that's what happens. I feel like that's what's happening at these companies now. They're just
kind of sitting back and trying to stay out of the news. And if they get a call from Robbie
Starbucks, they're like, okay, give me that file. We don't want to go to the news. All right. Yeah, here
we go. So we mentioned a bunch of these companies. I'll give you the rest of this list because
it is fascinating. It's not just Pepsi. There's a bunch of different brands. We mentioned Captain
Crunch. On Jemima is, I will say, we ended on that one. She's not coming back.
That's the one I want back the most.
He's not going like that.
That was, I think the, maybe the craziest single moment.
If you had to define the craziest single moment of the woke era, I think it was that moment
where it was like, Uncle Ben is no longer on our boxes.
Yeah, yeah.
Why?
He's black?
Question mark.
I think we're taking him off because saying that we have an uncle who's black is bad.
Yeah.
We have an aunt on our syrup bottle is bad.
Yeah.
That one too, on Jemima.
And like that one in particular.
I have a couple of those in my cupboard, by the way, that I see frequently.
It's funny.
I bought them before they took her off the bottle, too.
Now, Jeff, you do know that it's been a while.
I don't know that you should be having the syrup that you bought back then.
I didn't say I'd use it.
That's a collector's edition, man.
It is a collector's edition, seriously.
But they took her off the bottle, and I remember at the time we went through all the market research.
What was fascinating about that is that, like, I'll enjoy some amount of jemima syrup is fine.
I may have squeezed a little bit of that on a few items myself.
believe that. However,
we were not the target audience
for Agenima Syrup.
Ojama Syrup was heavily
favored by the African American consumer.
Okay, fine.
Whatever, fine.
They had the choice as to
which syrup they wanted to choose.
And they chose that. Disproportionately
chose the one with a very nice looking
an African American
aunt on the bottle.
Because it connected with them. They said, you know,
That reminds me of the old days.
I remember my aunt making me pancakes or whatever.
And so they decided they chose it.
And we said to them as white people, you don't understand.
The syrup you're choosing is actually racist against you.
Right, right.
Therefore, we're going to take the woman that you love on this model and remove her from history.
Because we know about us.
Because we're smart whites.
Right.
We're smart whites.
We're smart, liberal, progressive whites, and we know better for you.
That's right.
When we look at it, we see racism.
We see it.
And when we see racism and you don't, we make the decision you no longer get your product.
And they did.
And they did.
That's what happened.
We should give back, Ant Jemima, to the whole world.
Black, white, we should all come together and demand Aunt Jemima get back on those bottles.
I'm okay.
I'm okay with bringing her back with.
We have to get, what we need to do is get Robbie on this one.
Because he'll get it done.
Call them up.
Apparently all Robbie has to do is call.
All right.
Let's make it happen.
So you got Aunt Jemima, Tropicana, rice errone, Cheetos, Doritos.
No more.
Now, has Chester ever been, he's been accused of all sorts of real things, but never anything
on the racism front as far as I could.
Lay's, ruffles, Tostitos, Chester's, Cracker Jack, Frito Lay, Funions, which, by the way,
are freaking delicious.
A lot of those right now are under fire from your boy, RFK, though, now.
No, they, all RFK does is just, they change it from corn syrup to sugar.
and everyone's like, oh, now it's healthy.
Okay.
We've got a crackerjack, Frida, Lays, Funnions,
grandma's cookies, Miss Vicki's, rolled gold,
Stacey's Pita.
You ever seen a Pita bread, Jeffrey?
You ever see it?
Well, I know you've ever seen a salad.
Have you ever seen a?
Yes.
Okay.
You understand what a Pita.
There's people in my house that purchase those products.
Sun chips, crush, Lipton T's, Aquafina, Propel, Zero, and more.
318,000 employees that no longer have to go to these stupid DEI conferences at PepsiCo, thanks to Robbie, market cap of over $200 billion.
He says, we've now changed policy at companies worth well over $4 trillion.
And that's awesome.
Many millions of employees who have better workplace environments as a result.
With Pepsi, this is how he ends it.
With PepsiCo changing policy, Coca-Cola should be very nervous.
about continuing with their woke policies.
The spotlight is on them next.
So there you go.
A pretty impressive development.
I hope that's true.
You know, I was looking at a lot of universities where I started talking about how I hope that they change it, that the DEI goes away.
Because where I was reading about the changes were universities.
They all had their head of the DEI department.
Sure.
And their old departments throughout the whole university.
And many universities, if not all of them, said, yep, they're going away now.
We don't have them anymore.
There's no more DEI department.
That person is not the head of DEI.
Yet they just kind of, you know, redirected the funding to, you know,
well, that just work on student success and professional development.
It's still the same kind of and the same people.
You could kind of, yeah, send these same names and same people.
So, you know, while we lose the specific DEI,
that inbred thought still there.
You bring up an interesting point, Jeffrey.
And I think this is an interesting conversation for how we look at this woke era in retrospect,
hopefully, even though there's still plenty of it going on.
I think there's a difference between an ideological organization and a normie capitalist
organization.
And Jennifer Say calls it normy capitalism, the idea that we just all do our business and we don't
get involved in politics and we just do our thing.
Like, we just go out there and we make products that are great that people enjoy and that's
what it is.
That's what capitalism is supposed to be.
We got into this world of woke capitalism where everyone was making a statement and everyone
had a brand persona and, you know, Chester Cheetah was talking about the, you know, how
the Native Americans were, like I don't even understand what was happening for a while there.
But I do think there's a difference between an ideological company or organization and a normal
capitalist organization where you have a university, which these are universities built around
creating thought and forming the future of the country, right?
These, they're not going to, they're not going to flip over and decide to get rid of their
DEI policies in any real way, largely because they're created to try to make the world
that way.
Many of these people have 80, 90% of their employees who are working there specifically to
indoctrinate children into.
woke and left-wing ideologies, right?
That's not the case at Pepsi.
The people working at Pepsi are there because they want jobs.
They want to create a product that people like and enjoy,
get people a treat every once in a while,
and they want to be able to go home to their families and live their lives.
I think that's the vast majority of people who work at Pepsi,
unlike the people who work at Harvard,
who are there intentionally to indoctrinate, you know, smart children into this.
So I think there was a debate back in the peak woke time as to whether these companies actually meant this stuff or whether they were just doing it because they thought it was the thing they were supposed to do.
I feel like we've answered that question now.
I think most of these companies did it because that was what they thought they had to do to get through that time.
Where maybe, and I think we have to all be on guard for this, the opposite might be true now.
it's not that these companies have
have woken up, if you
will, to the anti-woke
ideals. They're not back to
true America. Now we realize
we should have been, you know, American
principles this whole time. It's just what
they think they should do right now. And many
of the people who are getting, you know,
coming into work, the workplace from
these universities have the
indoctrination. Yeah, exactly.
And they will move these companies.
You know, at some point,
and this is a terrible thing to think about,
but at some point a Democrat will be president again.
At some point, the left will have the Senate in the House,
and they will launch all sorts of investigations.
Wait, are you telling me that we have the White House and we have the Congress?
Mm-hmm.
Right?
Yeah, the House and the Senate.
Yeah.
The Supreme Court?
Yeah, Supreme Court.
They have all three branches?
All, yeah.
We pretty much everything right now.
I thought when that happened, life is perfect.
Yeah, you know, it's fascinating how that doesn't necessarily always occur.
Wow.
But things are better.
quite clearly than certainly the Biden era, if you will.
But at some point there's another equivalent to a Biden era,
whether it's 2028 or 2032 or 2036,
they will try to wrestle their control back to their side.
And a lot of these companies will start doing what they want at that time.
So it is important to note that this doesn't necessarily mean this is an endless change
that we can kind of cross the finish line.
and never have to deal with again.
You know, it's the idea of like, well, I've arrived.
You never arrive.
There's never, you never arrive.
It's never over.
You never finish that battle.
You're always needing to continue to work and work and work.
It's just so tiresome, Stu.
It is.
It is tiresome.
It's just so tiresome.
It's, it's, it is tiresome.
It really is.
Because we can mock how, well, you should be out there fighting every day.
Most people have lives.
Most people have jobs.
they're not like us.
You know, Jeffrey and I, sure, we sit here and we talk in a microphone every day as this is our job.
And, you know, it's easy to be critical.
Like, why aren't you calling your congressman nine times a day?
Nobody wants to do that.
No.
Our government should operate at a higher level than that.
They shouldn't need us to remind them to be sane every day.
But apparently that's what it takes.
Apparently, we need to do that on a daily basis.
Constantly remind them, constantly badgered them, constantly have Robbie Star
call up our beverage suppliers.
And good idea.
I appreciate Robbie for doing that.
Yeah.
And remind them they shouldn't be communists.
If you got time, Robbie, call my congressman.
Please.
Let them know.
This is what I'm going to do all the time.
Like if I, you know, like if my wife is saying like, you know, we really need to decorate the, redo the kitchen.
It's going to be like $40,000.
I just need Robbie Starbucks to call her.
Like, I don't think you want to do that.
You want to do that.
I don't think you're redecorating this week.
You don't want people to know about it.
love it. That's what we need. We need to just implement Robbie into all parts of our lives.
Okay. Whatever you have a hassle, like, hey, you really need to join the gym, honey.
Oh, God, what's that? Robbie say what? If you, if I go to the gym, you know, people die exercising all
the time, Jeffrey. People collapse on treadmills. It's terrible.
Plus, we haven't really talked about the big gym, but they've got a DEI.
There we go. You're going after another. I love that. So I am, so I am. I,
Because I think really where the correct landing place for people was actually outlined by Brian Armstrong at Coinbase years ago.
In the middle of the peak, woke era, he was the only guy at that point who came out and said, hey, guys, you can be activists all you want on your own time.
What we're going to do here at work is, you know, work.
If you want to be active about a political issue, it should be about cryptocurrency, which is our business.
Outside of that, shut up.
And if you don't like it, go.
See you later.
And some people did.
Okay.
And good.
Good.
Good.
Embrace that.
Embrace them leaving.
They're saving you.
So much hassle.
Absolutely.
And then you get to do, you actually get to, you know, go through your business and actually do things like that.
You have to do that.
You have to be.
And he wasn't, you know, Coinbase is a non-partisan company.
This isn't like the blaze.
It's not being mean.
It's just like, do your job.
It's easy for us, you know, at the blaze to do something like that, right?
Because we are an ideological company in that we are a conservative company.
We come to you from that perspective proudly.
And so obviously, it's easy for us to do that.
When you're a company that is just a normal company, the pressures are real.
These people are just like Robbie's badgering them now.
They were getting badgered by left-wing organizations to participate in this nonsense,
and they all folded to it for a while.
Luckily, that's changing.
And we're really, really happy about it.
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We've been talking about the woke phenomenon and how it's,
I don't know.
It's decreasing but still there.
Don't give up.
The fight is not over.
For sure.
There's a lot of work to do.
We'll get to that.
J.K. Rowling had an incident that we need to get into because she's constantly fighting with these people online.
She is the head of the hill of the LGBTQIA plus mafia, syndicate, whatever they call themselves, man.
She's at the top of the list.
So she came out with her list and I found it fascinating.
Okay, well, let's get into that because I want to know what her list actually is.
Because they were saying that they wanted to do some sort of Harry Potter revival.
Yeah, yeah.
And they're losing people that won't work for more people that have worked for her before and now are saying, no, I'm not going to work for her anymore.
And she's like, okay, I'm, which is just that makes you so miserable.
Really legitimately incredible that we are at a, that anyone would think if someone says that a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl, that they should be the ones that are treated like ostracized from our society.
Right.
Now, I don't, I just don't even.
even understand it. It's so completely
crazy. Well, maybe you will.
After we hear the list, maybe we hear the list, this will
change my mind. Also, we have updates
on the trans shooting that
happened in Minneapolis at the
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So I don't get into the update on the trans shooting in Minneapolis here in just a second.
But I want to continue what we were going on last hour because there's been this sort of,
push back against the woke stuff in our culture.
And one of the first people who really, who stood up and just said, I'm not going along with
this.
I know I'm supposed to.
I know I'm a celebrity.
I know I'm supposed to do what every other celebrity is doing, but I'm not going to do it.
And that is J.K. Rowland.
Now, she has the seemingly the outside of Elon Musk, the most FU money, perhaps that anyone has.
Well, she's, I think she's.
I think she's only worth over a billion, a little over a billion, right?
Maybe she still plays the lotto.
I mean, you know, we got the power ball that's $1.3 billion here in a couple days.
Yeah.
I'm in a consortium of ticket buyers.
I'm involved in a consortium that we buy a bunch of tickets.
Yeah.
I mean, I won a little money off this past weekend on the lotto.
So, I mean, you do win.
Can't win if you don't play.
That's true, Jeff.
I won $22, Stu.
And you only spend $138 to get it.
I don't recall.
Okay.
I don't recall.
It's not important.
But the point is you won $22.
So congratulations on that.
Thank you.
I reinvested some of that into the next lotto drawing.
Of course.
You just make sure you give it all back to them.
So, uh,
Jake Rale doesn't need the lotto.
She's over a billionaire.
And so she, at some level, she can say whatever she wants.
but I think that I think that minimizes her stand here because a lot of people are very wealthy and wind up just going along with this stuff.
They don't want to deal with a hassle.
And she said, you know what, actually, I care about women's rights.
I care about people that women should be known as women and men should be known as men and we should not go down that road.
And she hated for it from the other side.
She is enemy number one to, I mean, even more than like.
Donald Trump or any big political figure.
They hate her.
They do hate her.
The LGBTQIA plus syndicate mafia definitely hate her.
I don't know if it's more than Trump, though.
Man, Trump's.
They hate him for a multitude of reasons.
That's true.
But she definitely is on the hated list.
Well, because they feel like they should have her.
You know, she's a female.
They'll never get Trump.
She is.
She should be with them.
Yeah, she's.
Absolutely.
When you're over, when she's in the UK, right?
Like she's, you're supposed to just have those people, especially when they're famous.
And we like, we like Harry Potter so much.
We like Harry Potter and we like it.
We want to like her.
We can't.
And they want her to zip it and she won't do it.
She won't do it.
So she posted this weekend, as another man who once worked for me declares himself saddened
by my beliefs on gender and sex, I thought it might be useful to compile a list for
a handy reference.
Which of the following do you imagine makes actors and directors who aren't involved with the HBO reboot of Harry Potter so miserable?
Is it my belief that women and girls should have their own public changing rooms and bathrooms?
That's a crazy idea right there, right off the past.
I want to be clear, I'm going to go down this list.
This is her.
Okay, this is not me.
Okay, so you're not taking...
No, no, no.
Jeffie, who has said a couple of controversial things in the past.
I don't go back and listen to old shows.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
He wants you to know that this is not Jeffrey's speaking.
This is JK.
That's right.
That women should retain female only rape crisis centers.
Now, there are big requests and there are little requests.
I feel like this one falls into the latter category.
This is not a big request to have rape centers for women only that are actually real women,
Not men saying that they're women.
That men don't belong in women's sport.
This one seems quite obvious.
There's a bunch of videos going around viral this weekend of some, like, you know, NBA, like practice squad player just going one on five against a WMBA team, which is like dominating them.
Yeah, which would absolutely happen.
That's what happens.
I'm sorry.
Yes, absolutely.
You know, that female prisoners shouldn't be incarcerated with violent men.
male sex offenders.
This one might be the lowest hurdle of all to clear.
Putting people who've committed crimes in prison with women is not a good idea for a multitude
of reasons.
His name is Stubergier.
Oh, I'm just quoting J.K. Rowling, I promise.
That women should remain a protected class in law because they have specific needs and issues.
They're different.
I mean, now, now that's one that I bet you in the old days, Jeffrey, there'd be areas of that one.
We disagree with her on saying that, like, I'm worried about whether you're giving preferential treatment to one gender over or the other.
You know, what I want is equal treatment for everybody.
But I do certainly acknowledge that men and women are different.
And women certainly certainly do have different needs when it comes to things like, you know, pregnancy.
There are definitely some rules that apply to only women and not men like the rules around pregnancy.
That language should-
That was Stubergear, by the way,
saying.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That language should reflect reality
rather than ideological jargon,
especially in a medical context,
that women shouldn't be harassed,
persecuted, or fired for refusing to pretend
humans can change sex.
I mean, what a statement.
Language should reflect reality.
That is a controversial statement in our culture right now.
Right.
Language should reflect.
Reality. What is the point of language if it doesn't reflect reality?
The whole point of it is to try to describe what's going on. If these words don't mean anything,
you can't communicate to people. There's that story, Jeffrey, from a few years ago,
where a woman comes into the, excuse me, a guy who came in, yeah, it was a guy who came in
to the hospital, emergency room, having all sorts of horrible pains.
came in complaining to the doctor,
the doctor goes, does all these tests.
They can't figure out what's going on.
They can't treat it.
And what happens, the guy dies.
Later they find out that the guy was pregnant.
So not a guy.
He was a person saying they were a guy,
telling the doctors that they were a guy.
And because of the pregnancy issues that were going on
with the woman who was pregnant,
they didn't treat the pregnancy.
They instead tried to treat him
as if he had like abdominal pain.
Now, it's hard for me to understand
how a doctor would not understand
what was going on in this situation, right?
Which makes me think that they did understand
and intentionally treated
this man, or this woman,
excuse me, like it was a man,
to respect the pronouns
and it wound up causing,
costing this person their lives.
Wow.
I mean, it's a revolting story.
And it's happened more than once.
This is not like a, it's not super common, but it is, it does happen.
Why would?
Language should reflect reality.
Important boys and girls.
That women should not be threatened with violence and rape when they assert their rights.
No, they should not be.
That's quite clear.
Threatened with violence or rape.
when they assert their rights.
That freedom of speech and belief are essential
to a pluralistic democratic society.
Freedom of speech and belief
are essential to a pluralistic democratic society.
Okay.
The troubled minors, especially those who are gay, autistic,
and trauma experienced
should be given mental health support
instead of irreversible surgeries and drug treatments
on non-existent evidence of benefit.
You think?
You don't think we should just start cutting people up when they show some signs of mental distress?
What could go wrong?
You know, a lot can go wrong.
J.K. and Jeffrey.
That gay people shouldn't be pressured to include the opposite sex in their dating pools,
nor should they be smeared as genital fetish when they don't.
This is a weird one because I feel like this was the example.
When all the stuff started, this was the example we used as like,
imagine if it gets to this.
point where they're telling men who like women that they also have to like trans people or
their haters, right?
Like, you have to open up, if you're on, I don't know, Tinder, Jeffrey, how many apps
you on these days, 40, 50?
If you're on, a couple, couple.
If you're on Tinder and you're like, hey, I want a woman between the ages of 30 and
40 that with these characteristics and blah, blah, blah, you have to also include, I
Oh, by the way, 100% on trans people who are actually men but are saying they're women because I'm not a hater.
Like, that was the example we'd use if this spirals out of control and goes crazy.
It could go to here.
And then six months later, we were just there.
Here we are.
It was no longer a crazy example.
It was just the reality of what the left was saying and what people on television were saying.
As if it was totally normal.
Yep.
Cross-dressing, heterosexual male fetus, aren't.
actually oppressed, but having the time of their lives like piggybacking off gender identity ideology.
I don't know if they're having the times of their lives. It seems like a festive community,
so perhaps that's true. That said, ideology and the privileged, blinkered fools pushing it because
they suffer zero consequences themselves, have done more damage to the political left's credibility
than Trump and Farage could have achieved in a century. It's true. Then she asked,
Let me have your thoughts.
J.K. Rowling.
You know, I think it's interesting to think back to the, let's say the end of the Obama administration.
So 2014, 2015, okay?
Good times.
There was, there were some, there were times.
I will say that.
I think that list you just gave has a north of 95% approval rating.
Sure.
I think 95% of people would agree with basically every one of those statements.
Let's say, I don't know how many of there are 12, 10 out of 12, right?
I think 95% of the American public would agree with that.
Yes.
Now, I still think almost everybody agrees with it.
But I do think if you ask people in a poll, they would tell you it's probably only 60%, or 70% or 65% now.
Because I think a lot of people have just.
just gone down this road where they see the world they have convinced themselves of things they
know to be untrue that they're going to say anyway and here's here's a statement that i'll come
out with language should reflect reality i just heard that somewhere yeah and if it doesn't you
end up with a lot of big problems bigger than whether uh there should be a dude in your your your
daughter's volleyball game bigger than that.
Those are big issues.
I'm not saying they're not.
They absolutely are.
We've talked about them a lot.
They're important to talk about.
But we start getting into things.
When language doesn't reflect reality, what you get is not just men in women's sports,
you get stuff like Minneapolis.
When we are convincing people that, first of all, there's nothing wrong with not being able
to identify what your gender is, if you think it's the opposite.
if everyone around you in reality knows you're a dude and you're saying you're a chick,
you are the one with the problem, you are the one.
Not them.
Not them not recognizing your pronouns.
That's not the problem.
The problem is that you have not become able to detect reality.
And while there is a very normal, I think, instinct among Americans, a good instinct, I think,
generally, to say, hey, like, hey, whatever they want to do.
Yeah, he thinks he's a chick.
Okay, whatever.
That works out in most circumstances.
The problem with it here in this particular circumstance is, number one, we're asked to participate in that delusion and that lie.
There's a true thing.
This person is a guy.
That murderer was a guy.
And then there is this false thing that he is now a woman.
He's now because he signed a piece of paper with the government, he's now a girl.
And we're supposed to participate in that.
So that's part number one.
It weakens the importance of truth in your civilization.
And truth in your civilization, I promise you is important.
You have to have something you can agree on that is true.
So you have that going on.
And then the other part of this is it's quite obvious to everyone in the world that when you can't apprehend reality, bad things happen.
When you are anorexic and telling your men.
mom that you're really, really fat and you have to go on a diet, if they, if the response to
that is you're right, honey, you are fat, you do need to go on a diet, bad things happen.
And when you do the same thing here, when you not only indulge and participate in this
particular falsehood, but you lionize the person for lying to themselves, you come up with
a really twisted, problematic part of your civilized.
It doesn't mean that they're all going to go out and kill people.
Obviously not.
That's just a stupid thing to even suggest.
And it's what the media focuses on.
Well, stop blaming the trans community.
I'm not blaming the trans community.
I'm blaming the person who committed the murders.
Yeah.
But it is important to note that when you can't get a handle on reality, you wind up doing a lot of strange things.
Sometimes there are things that we just kind of look at and say, that's a little odd.
Weird.
But sometimes they're not.
Sometimes they're like what happened in Minneapolis or Nashville or we can go through the entire list.
It's a little too long.
I want to get into that and how the media is handling that here in a second.
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It's Stu and Jeffie in for Glenn.
Triple-8-727 B-E-C-K is the phone number.
Maybe you can, maybe if you're on the phones, you can help.
You can help the New York Times.
They just don't know.
They can't figure out what could have possibly motivated the shooting in Minneapolis.
we may never know is the headline what motivated the Minneapolis church shooter we may never know
investigators combing through piles of evidence from an attack on a Minneapolis church
cautioned that these kinds of shooters often leave more questions than answers
this is a real article by the way I'm not this isn't like hey chat GPT give me a fake article
from the New York Times that mocks their terrible coverage.
That's not what I did here.
This is a real article from the New York Times.
It has become hauntingly routine paradox in the aftermath of horrific shootings.
And assailant leaves piles of evidence that investigators scrutinize.
But law enforcement officials are often left with more questions than answers as they seek to determine a motive.
Now, I read some.
I didn't read.
I don't have all the evidence that they have.
That's true.
but I have read a decent amount of what this dope wrote,
whose name we will not use.
And I was fascinated to say when he said he,
one of the reasons he did this is because he wanted to kill children because he enjoyed it.
That was a pretty clear motive to me.
I thought that was like maybe the clearest motive.
He also talked about wanting to kill a bunch of public figures.
He talked about,
I mean, he did say a lot of stuff.
He seemed to hate every group.
Including himself.
Including himself.
And of course, that was also the motive, right?
Mental illness.
And here's the thing.
Going back to our previous conversation, Jeffrey.
One of the things we say after mass shootings happened is, gosh, this guy was mentally ill.
Why didn't people step in when they saw signs of it?
The sign of it is saying that you don't know what gender you are.
That's the sign of it.
People don't step in when they see that sign.
They congratulate them and celebrate them and say how,
wonderful it is. And you're the problem if you don't. They encourage it. Yes, they do.
That is the issue, right? That is the issue here. It doesn't mean that all of these things
add up to the same horrible recipe, but oftentimes they do, and it seems to be an increasing
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. It's Stu and Jeffie in for Glenn.
Triple-eight 727 B-E-C-K is the phone number. We are on a mission, on a hunt.
We are on an archaeological dig to discover what the motive could have been.
We're going to be able to find out?
In the Minneapolis shooting. No, I don't think we will. I don't think we'll ever find out.
It's too hard to find out. Well, we know.
One thing we could definitely say, though, I think we can both agree on this.
It had to be a white MAGA Republican who did it.
Thank you.
That's how we...
In fact, Sue, you and I were on the air when it first happened.
And, I mean, we both thought the same thing.
Immediately when we got the news, white MAGA Republican.
Yep.
We knew right away.
Absolutely.
Had to be somebody who's a Trump voter because we've never seen violence come from the left.
We've never seen.
Like, I mean, if we had all this violence from the left,
we'd probably see President Trump having to dodge bullets on stage every other day.
Oh, wait, that's happening.
I forgot.
I forgot.
That's actually true.
Although there's many out there that are trying to say that that was fake, that that was a put on.
Is that really still happening?
I don't know that it's actually still happening.
I think it is.
But I do see it from time to time, which makes me believe that it actually is.
Yeah.
Or maybe there's something.
There's, you know, a couple of people still trying to push that narrative.
and maybe that's what I see.
I don't know that anybody buys it, but it's still out there.
I will say if you're, let's say, on X or Facebook or whatever,
you probably are either blocking or muting a bunch of really annoying leftists.
And that's, of course, the right move because it'll drive you insane.
But I would recommend having one, like in your feet.
I have a couple of my favorites.
Keep a couple.
Just so you can kind of keep an eye on what they're doing.
Yeah.
Because it's legitimately crazy.
Some of these people, I don't know, because I follow a bunch of people.
Some people are on politics, obviously.
It's a big part of my interest.
But, you know, I also follow a bunch of sports people and people who, you know, crypto stuff.
I have a bunch of different, like, interests.
I mean, your best follow, I believe, is, you know, at Jeffrey, JFR on X.
It's probably your best.
Oh, I don't think I follow at Jeffrey JFR.
I'm pretty sure I muted that count.
that account. But if you have a couple, I have a couple of these people who are, you know, I don't
know, I'm following them for some other reason. And then they occasionally tweet about politics.
Right. And you realize how insanely left they are on politics. And it's, it is the conspiracy
theories that are out there. It is incredible. I mean, I, look, conspiracy theories affect
every aspect of life. Politics, right, left, and beyond.
right, like outside of politics.
I love them.
It's true.
You've always been a guy.
I think of you when I think of the fun time of conspiracy theories.
When conspiracy theories were fun, when it was just like people throwing stuff out there
and you'd have this theory about something that had happened.
And it was just like an enjoyable conversation.
Deep down, you knew it wasn't real.
Yeah, you either knew it wasn't real or you knew there was a good chance.
It wasn't real.
But it was just kind of fun to entertain as a thought experiment, right?
we've now crossed the line where these conspiracy theories are getting, as I mentioned, bullets fired at the president of the United States.
For sure.
Relatively routinely.
I mean, we go, this is a true thing.
This is a thing that's happening on this show.
I want to give you a behind-the-scenes picture of what is happening on the Glenn Beck program right now.
This is an actual conversation that has happened behind the scenes as we go through the news of the day and see multiple people being arrested for trying to.
to kill the president of the United States.
And then we get on the air and don't even talk about it
because it's so routine at this point.
These aren't even breaking through.
Absolutely true.
We had a day, I think it was two weeks ago,
where two separate people were arrested for trying to kill the president of the United States
and it barely was a blip.
Because this stuff is happening all the time.
And one thing you'll find is they parrot
all of the same conspiracy theories you hear on MSNBC every day.
Now, I remember when we were on Fox News, this happened all the time,
if a person who would have a 5 million-page manifesto also at one point mentioned low taxes,
we would be, oh, Glenn Pack is inspiring of assassins.
Yes, that's real.
That is a real thing.
That was all the time.
Everyone was happy to make that job.
These people will write manifestos that will constantly quote things.
Because when you have this, here's the thing, Jeffie, language should reflect reality.
And when your language is that the president of the United States is Hitler, when your language is that the president of the United States is trying to imprison or murder every trans person, he, again, quote unquote, he's denying their exact.
Disappearing people from the streets.
These ice rallies are raids are just taking innocent civilians and just tossing them into prisons all over the world.
When that is your narrative on a day-to-day basis, well, a lot of people believe that.
And a lot of people wind up saying, well, what's the next logical step?
If Donald Trump is imprisoning and murdering all trans people, what should I do?
Now, most people just realize this is nonsense, right?
Most people, even people on the left, will say, all right, like, I agree on the trans thing, but like they're not actually doing that.
This is an insane thing to believe, and I'm not going to take action.
However, there are some people who do.
Yeah.
And a guy hiding out in the bushes at Donald Trump's golf course believed every word.
You bet.
Believed every word and thought it was real.
And these other people that got arrested for, they were working, you know, they had their chances to.
assassinate the president, they absolutely believed every word.
Everywhere.
Every word of it.
That's why they were arrested.
That's why they were arrested.
The person, I mean, and, you know, the person who is in the bushes at the golf course,
a couple of these people from last week, they sound like they're MSNBC hosts.
Oh.
They sound like they're just, they could get a show right after Jen Saki on the network.
Ah, what a good time slot that is.
But they really do suffer.
I mean, Trump derangement syndrome, I believe that is a real diagnosis now.
You know, it used to be that TDS is not.
But, I mean, it's real.
Well, it used to be a joke to describe to summarize how people reacted to Donald Trump.
You know, like I was listening to, you know, and I do these things so you don't have to.
Okay.
I was listening to the New York Times Daily podcast, which is like the number one podcast in America.
And today they were talking about all of the moves Donald Trump has been making on the economy.
Now, some of which I am proudly out of step with, let's put it that way.
Some of them I don't love.
I don't love that we're taking control of the percentages of companies.
It's just not my back.
I get that it might be yours now.
I don't know.
But what I found to be more fascinating than that discussion was the New York Times discovering capitalism.
All of the sudden.
We're all for it all of a sudden.
Let me give you an example of something that was said on this podcast.
You know, one of the reasons why America's economy has been so dynamic over the years
and why it's outperformed places like Europe and China is because it didn't do things like this.
Where in places like France and China, they would take pieces of these companies and influence them.
That was one of the things that weakened them.
We were achieving all these incredible things because we didn't do those things.
And now Donald Trump wants to do them.
Forget that for just a moment.
Just set aside how you feel about what Donald Trump is doing here.
And just embrace how insane it is that the second Trump does A, everyone in the media has to be against A.
And they are.
And they are.
They doofly take up the other side of whatever he does.
They sure do.
And it's fascinating to watch it happen.
I think honestly, if he came out in favor of trans people, they'd come out against it.
I think they'd just be like, well, how can he embrace this?
This is a man who's saying it's a woman.
Obviously, it's still a man.
Yeah, they wouldn't believe him.
They would just go to the other.
Yeah, you're right.
They probably just wouldn't believe it.
But I think if he had a heartfelt belief and believe at the beginning of this, if you remember,
Donald Trump's first reaction to the trans early controversies was to say, ah, just let them go into the bathrooms.
I mean, that's who he was. He's a New Yorker.
His feeling on social issues.
He's just not, he's not all that passionate about that stuff. He really does have passionate about the economy and the border and many things like that.
You know, the social stuff has just never been central to who he is as a press. I think everybody knows that.
Because he legitimately, you're right. I don't think he cares.
At least he didn't at the beginning. And so that was his first reaction was, I just let him go to the bathroom wherever they want to. They're not hurting anybody.
That was their initial reaction.
And social conservatives kind of stepped up and said, well, actually, we do think this is a problem.
Here's why.
And he's reacted to that over the years.
But I think if he pushed that really, really hard, I think there's a chance the media would be on the opposite side of it just because he's on that side.
And that is TDS, right?
Yes.
I think, though, it has arisen beyond the former usage of it, where when we first started, it was just a way to summarize the way MSNBC would react to him.
because they would react negatively to no matter what he did.
Even if at times he would agree with them,
they would just say he was evil anyway.
I really do think it's a legitimate psychotic disorder.
I do too.
I've seen it.
I mean, I see it.
So it has to.
Do you know people who are like this?
Do you have like family members and friends that react this way?
I had to deal with what not long ago.
Really?
And how'd that go?
that way I'm we're not talking anymore
I'm not doing this with you okay
I'm not doing this with you because I
can't I mean
you're in my home you don't have to give me details
oh in your home okay yeah we're in my home you're with
you're with my nephew I like you you've known my nephew
forever just stop talking
okay just stop talking because I don't know what you're talking about
you don't know what you're talking about so
because I think that's the adult way to handle a situation like that
because you start off
and you have a situation where
with someone who just viscerally disagrees
with you and doesn't know what they're talking about.
You might engage at first.
You might try to convince them at first.
You go down that road.
When that dries up, the next step is where you are,
which is like, look, let's just not talk about it.
You're not going to convince me.
I'm not going to convince you.
Let's not blow up our entire relationship over this nonsense.
Yeah.
Isn't it time for you to leave?
Yeah, get out of my house, right?
And then there is, you go farther than that.
At some point, it becomes,
can't even interact with you because you're not respecting my boundaries my boundaries are
I love you as a person but I don't I can't go down this road because you're not going to talk
about you yeah let's just not talk about it not going to talk about it if you get beyond that and
they won't respect that boundary that you're putting up then they just aren't respecting you as a
person right right they are they have TDS too seriously to actually interact with and at some point
you just have to be like look I I'm happy to talk with you I'm happy to hang out with you I'm
happy to have a conversation with you but if you can't be serious
somewhat sane.
And they can't because when they see you, they see Trump.
And that's the Durandrum.
Yeah.
I mean, Glenn has been dealing with us.
Glenn has had, you know, he's talked about this on the air where he just, you know,
you get to a point where it's not about Trump anymore.
It's about them respecting you as an individual, as your relative, as your friend.
If you can't do those basic things.
What else is there?
You're just treating me like trash.
And I'm just this punching bag that I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to do.
defend what I believe, but like I am willing, I have friends who are on the left. I have friends
who are liberal. Like, you just, I don't, I will politely try to point out when they make mistakes and
errors. I will, uh, I will politely. Ah, you know, this isn't true. Let's shut up. Yeah, come on.
Yeah, you know, you know, that's not true. I will politely say, you know, look, this is wrong.
And, and here's why, here's why I believe this. But I'm not going to berate them and say they're
bad people. I'm not going to call them the names that they call us. I don't want to do that.
I have no interest in that. That's not the person I want to be. It makes me feel bad about myself.
If you get into that, you ever get to do a Twitter conversation with somebody and you're like,
gosh, I don't even like the person I am right now. I'm so pissed off about this. It brings out the
worst than all of us, right? And there's a lot of people on the TDS left that want to make
social media into real life. They want to make that, they want to bring that into the,
IRL. And I don't want anything to do with that. If that's you, get out. Get out of my house.
Get out of my life. Okay. I mean, yeah, absolutely. And I'm just suggesting that to you.
Please get out. I would get out of my life. That's just separate from the conversation.
I just want you to get out, Jeffie. Triple-8-727B-E-C-K is the phone number. We didn't even get to
the whole point of this was to lead up to a Rosie O'Donnell clip. And I didn't even get to it.
Well, she's not living in the United States any longer. She's gone. She decided, I hate Trump's
much I'm leaving the country.
We all cheered.
Yeah, and unfortunately that country still has internet.
I know.
That's one thing I want, one thing I'm begging Ireland is to ban the internet now that
she's there.
We'll get into Rosie O'Donnell and her nonsense here in just a moment.
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the slightest of mistakes. We'll see if you could detect it.
It was so hard to detect.
But apparently she's in Ireland
and she wants to give you her opinions still, for whatever reason.
We'll get into those coming up.
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Oh, she sure is.
Can you explain the Greta Thunberg haircut?
I cannot.
I don't understand what's happening.
There was a lot of fun on the internet over the weekend about that haircut.
Someone said my favorite one was it looks like she was drawn by Charles Schultz.
Yeah, there's that.
It looks like she's right out of peanuts cartoon.
There's the outer shape, He-Man.
There were a couple others, too.
A couple others that she looks like there's one.
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You know, sometimes you have to admit you're surrounded by intellectual giants.
people who can think at a different level than you and I,
people who can see things that we cannot.
No, no, I'm not talking about you, Jeffrey.
I'm talking about Rosie O'Donnell
and her incredible analysis of the Minneapolis shooting.
We'll get into that here in just a minute.
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I have a rough first one for a few games.
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Oh, wow.
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It's prize picks. It's good to be right, which of course I always am. I will be right on the
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Not what I can nail.
Okay.
It's not as easy to be right if you're Rosie O'Donnell.
Life is hard.
That's for sure.
Things are difficult.
You're so wrong and so disconnected with your society, you've probably moved out of the country by now.
That's what Rosie has done.
She has been for so long.
And still, she still thinks that moving out of the country was, and she has to make,
she absolutely, every time she posts one of her intellectual videos, she has to remind us,
why, I'm still in Ireland, how wonderful it is here.
Yeah, she really wants you to hate your country.
That's step number one.
She likes for Ireland.
And by the way, this is one thing we can agree on.
We like her being in Ireland.
Please stay.
I'm fine with it.
I don't care.
It's okay.
Just stay.
It's great there.
You're enjoying it there.
I'm sure the people around you love you.
So stay there forever.
That's a great outcome for the both of us.
But she was commenting on this Minneapolis shooting.
Right away.
And this is a fascinating part of this.
We're going to stop and start this as we go through the audio.
But one of the things that's fascinating about this is just the need.
What a strange world we're in that you have a need if you're Rosie O'Donnell to comment on the Minneapolis shooting.
You live in Ireland.
You have no expertise in this area.
You don't know anything about the topic.
Why bother posting a video on it?
You don't have to.
And on top of that, you know.
none of the facts
about the case at all.
Right.
At all.
Many of us at the time
that she posted this didn't.
So it was just a matter of her
wanting to speak
up about a shooting in a country
she no longer lives in.
It's so strange.
And here's something,
this is for you.
You could take this one for free.
This is free advice.
From the Glenn Beck program,
you don't have to post.
You don't.
You think, I got to post something.
something. No, you don't. This is something that I have learned over the years many times.
I've tried to advise Glenn on not always successfully many times. You don't have to post on every
single thing. You don't have to say something about everything. No one needs to know what you
think about everything. Absolutely. I mean, that comes from, basically, that comes from the
chewing the fat rule. Okay. I love the man on the street.
interviews and newscasts or whatever I love them. But just because someone puts a microphone in front
of you doesn't mean you have to speak. That's a great rule. A great, a great lesson to learn.
People don't, I'm happy that many people don't follow that lesson. Because it gives you material.
You don't have to. Right. You don't have to. By the way, chewing the fat is the podcast, Jeffie
hosts. You should subscribe to it, of course, wherever you get your podcast. That's just a rule.
That's just a rule from the show. It's a great rule. And the problem is, now we all have these
and you can do fun things like go on price picks
or you can speak into it and it's got microphones
and it'll record you.
Video capability, all of it.
And you can post it all over the internet.
And you might say, well, hey,
Stu and Jeffie, you stupid fatheads,
you're currently running your mouth about all sorts of issues, right?
And that is true.
We get paid for this.
I know it's hard to believe.
And I don't understand it either.
This ain't much.
yeah well you know what you're worth i think quite clearly um you're the wmbi i need to be paid what we're worth
okay that's what i'm saying that's what we're owed you know part of this is you know you do this for a
living it's it's part of what you do and there's no problem obviously expressing yourself what you do
when you go on the internet and you post a video if let's say you're working a you're a mechanic
you're an accountant whatever you happen to be and what you post uh when you post your thoughts on the internet
it is quite obviously more important than what we do on a day-to-day basis.
And I mean that sincerely.
Like, the only reason the stuff that has happened in this country has changed is because
normal people have gotten involved.
It's one thing for us to run our mouths as employees of, you know, blazed media and tell
you all the things that we think are important.
And that's all great.
It's part of the package.
But much more important part of that package is the, is an everyday person who doesn't do
this for a living, speaking up about what they believe in. That is really important. It's less
important when you're Rosie O'Donnell. Because I think the thing is, if you invest your time
to listen to a program like this, you know, we're on 15 hours a week. Studios America is on another
four or five hours a week. Jeff, Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher is on somewhere between 15
minutes and eight hours a week. I don't know. Somewhere in there. If you're spending all that time
to listen to podcasts, to read these stories, to look at boring government.
spreadsheets and try to figure out what the heck is going on with our world.
You've done work to qualify yourself to comment.
Sure.
I say this all the time.
Don't go out and vote.
Learn then vote.
The order is important.
That is an order.
You can't do them in reverse order.
That's what Rosie O'Donnell's did.
She's like, okay, well, I'm going to vote.
And maybe in her case, she's not even doing that anymore.
I don't know.
Maybe in Ireland, she's not even participating in that process.
But whatever.
your vote is important, but it shouldn't be some ill-informed glob.
If that's what you have, then keep it at home.
If you have it, and by the way, some people have called Rosie O'Donnell an ill-informed glob.
One of them may have been the president of the United States.
Exactly.
Only Rosie O'Donnell.
That's the only person I've been.
Only Rosie O'Donnell.
So without further ado, that's a bunch of setup to tell you that Rosie O'Donnell's dumb.
Here she is saying something dumb.
Well, hey, everybody. It's Thursday all day, as my nana would say. And what can I tell you? I'm in Dublin, Ireland.
Okay. Having a great life. That's good. That's good. You look like you're having a great life.
Enjoying the people of Dublin, Ireland and the culture and the sense of community. And so about the Minnesota shooting.
Please. Why would you? Brought me right back to Columbine in 1999.
Okay, stop for a second.
That's the transition I'm thinking about right there.
That's what I'm trying to get into at the beginning.
I'm having a great life.
No, she does not look like she's having a great life.
She looks miserable.
She looks miserable.
She's busy picking cat hairs off her sweater.
I can't take it.
Right.
That's what she's doing.
She looks unhappy.
However, I will say this, Jeffie, if you happen to be happy and you happen to claim you're happy
and you happen to move to another country and you're happy about that and you're interacting
with the people in Dublin who I'm sure.
are so excited you're there.
Oh, man.
If that's you, why do you feel the need to comment on the Minneapolis shooting?
Just stop yourself.
Have some self-restraint.
I just don't understand why you don't need to talk about every little thing that happens in the world.
Now, look, the Minneapolis thing, situation's a serious situation.
But your input here is not needed.
No, you're completely.
out of the picture. There's no need for you to comment at all.
No. And you might say, well, Stu, I want to hear what she's going to say.
And you might say that her input is needed. She's about to prove you wrong. Listen.
1999, when I just could not get it through my head that students in America were shooting each other in schools.
And this was a church inside a Catholic school.
and what do you know
was a white guy, Republican,
MAGA person.
A MAGA person.
What do you know?
What do you know?
What do you know?
White supremacist.
A white supremacist.
Not a white supremacist,
but a white supremacist.
Nothing has happened since Columbine.
Nothing has happened.
Nothing.
The Million Ma' March.
Nothing.
It doesn't do much of anything.
It doesn't very large hands.
Was that?
Is that just a camera?
Camera trick or is it?
I don't know.
Hands the size of Frankenstein's hands.
What's going on there?
I think it may be a camera trick.
Oh, look at that.
Her hand is larger than her entire skull.
It might be something to do with Ireland.
Maybe when you go there, your hands grow.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's possible.
We don't know what kind of fruits and vegetables she's eating.
Maybe there's an additive in there.
Maybe she doesn't have enough additives in her life now that she's living in Dublin.
The people in Dublin are giving her some kind of weird food that makes your hands grow.
I don't know.
Now, you might hear Rosie's commentary there and think to yourself, but wait, we know and knew almost immediately.
This was not a Republican MAGA person.
In fact, now I will say there was a media report that did say Trump's name was written on the guns.
Yes.
True.
And that has the media said it.
That part is true, although they left out of minor details.
The word kill was in front of it.
But this, I think this.
was posted before we even knew that.
Before we even knew that.
Another lesson here, Jeffie.
You might think, well, I have to comment on that.
And I would say you're wrong.
You don't.
But if you still don't believe me, what you could do in a situation such as this is wait until you have some facts about the situation.
Oh.
So before you post.
Before you post.
Learn then post.
The order is important.
Okay.
Okay.
Now, you might, we can give you a good example of this, if you will, Jeffie.
As Jeffrey mentioned, this shooting occurred while we were on the air doing a live radio show to, you know, hundreds and hundreds of affiliates.
Okay.
All across the country, millions of people were listening to us react to the shooting in real time.
What we did was give you the facts of the situation that we knew.
That was not a lot.
In fact, to the point of we knew it was a huge story, but we had to stop ourselves from talking about it because if we continued to talk about the story,
we would invariably get into speculation about things we didn't know yet.
Right.
Right.
We didn't want to just keep repeating the same three or four things we knew.
Would be wrong.
Of course, because when you're just guessing about a new story, you're going to be wrong a lot.
That's the way that works.
It's funny.
Someone has said learn and then post, speak or vote, right?
I mean, that's the order is important.
Learn is supposed to be first.
So there's no need to post a.
all, but if you feel like you must post, maybe wait.
You know, there's that old thing in news broadcasting of you don't need to be first,
you need to be right.
And so many places have completely abandoned that idea.
Yeah, social media.
That's long gone.
Everyone just wants to be first.
Post anything.
And then maybe your post will be the one that goes viral.
Maybe everyone will give you all the likes.
If that's your motivation built on the back of a couple of dead children at school,
Maybe your motivation's incorrect.
That's very possible.
Maybe you're the one doing life wrong at that point.
All right.
So she went through this whole thing.
People did, of course, immediately recognize.
Call her out.
And call her out and say, hey, you were totally wrong.
Your guest of it, a MAGA person was wrong.
But apparently, she went away.
She was out partying with the Dublin people making her hands grow bigger and didn't pay attention.
the internet. She didn't see the internet for a couple
days? That's what she says. That's what she says.
She tells us here. She does again
post to tell us
well. By the way, yeah.
So here's her post. This is a week later now.
This is one you probably should post.
Here is Rosie O'Donnell with an update
on her initial post.
Hi, everybody. It's Rosie O'Donnell.
Star the Flintstones.
It's okay. Stop for a second.
All right.
That is awesome. First of all,
give her credit. That's awesome.
That's a funny line.
Is it though?
It is kind of a funny line.
Star of the Flintstones.
What does that mean?
Said no one, except Rosie.
Right.
First of all, I don't even know that she was the star of the Flintston.
I know.
She was in the Flintstones.
Let's be clear.
She was in it.
A movie that bombed and no one remembers.
And that's why it's funny, by the way, right?
It's funny because it was nothing.
It was, you know, if that's what you're known for, you're known for basically nothing.
And that's another point to be made here.
There's no reason to even know what Rosie O'Donnell's opinion is on anything.
She's Rosie O'Donnell.
Who cares what her opinion is on anything?
It doesn't make any difference to anyone whether she feels anyway about anything.
Even the people in Dublin don't care what she thinks, let alone us.
Right.
And she certainly doesn't care what we think.
She moved away.
Right.
And this is a funny, like, it is a funny line for her to mention that.
It is a sort of self-deprecating joke, right?
Who am I?
I'm the star of the Flintstones.
But it's also a way for her to escape responsibility for her previous post.
Why are you listening to me?
I'm just the star of the Flintstones.
I'm just some lady, crazy lady on the internet, saying things.
It's like, it's the John Stewart thing where, like, he's taken seriously as to serious commentator until he says something that's a blatant lie.
Then he's just a comedian.
Right.
Boy, isn't that the truth.
All right.
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All right, Rosie O'Donnell, still blabbing.
She's the star of the Flintstones.
Here is the update on her initial post.
Hi, everybody.
It's Rosie O'Donnell, star, the Flintstone.
Listen, I have a colesar.
I know.
Sexy.
Happens to get run down, you know.
Anyway, I know a lot of you were very upset about the video I made before I went away for a few days.
I didn't go online and haven't seen them until today.
But you are right.
I did not do my due diligence
before I made that emotional statement
and I said things
about the shooter that were incorrect.
I assumed like most shooters
they followed a standard
emo and had standard
you know feelings of
of what?
You know
NRA-11 kind of
NRA-11. Anyway
the truth is I messed up
and when you mess up you fess up
I'm sorry
this is my apology video and I hope it's enough.
It's not really, Rosie, because you didn't say exactly what the deal was.
I mean, I think it's good that she apologized.
I just don't know why she didn't apologize for the Flintstones.
At no point in the video, does she mention how terrible that movie was?
No, she doesn't.
And that she calls herself the star of it, which again, I don't think she was the star of the movie.
She was in the movie.
She was not the star of the movie.
You know, look, better than the alternative, right?
Like, better than just posting the video and never addressing it.
I mean, the real alternative is don't post at all.
That's the best one.
The second best one is after you screw up, actually admitting it.
And I give her, you know, a little bit of credit for that.
Although, again, she needs to go back to the drawing board and figure out because most shooters are not this way.
They're not all white MAGA people.
That's not true.
No, they are not.
You can look at all sorts of different measures of this.
I mean, the most common mass shooter is not political.
The most common mass shooter is not political.
Some of them are.
Most of them are not.
Most of them have personal beefs with people, with institutions.
Most of them are just insane.
You know, that stuff does occur.
But one indication of insanity is not really being able to recognize reality.
And there's one thing I was thinking about today, which is language should reflect reality.
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Stu and Jeffie in for Glenn. He's on vacation this week. We were talking about the
Minneapolis shooting and the media reaction and Rosio Donald's reaction to it. And I think one of the
things that we always kind of land on here is, you know, what do you do about situations like this?
What do you do about mass shootings? How do you stop them? And there's really only one answer
from the media, which is just ban all the guns. We need to ban guns. It's a common sense
gun reform. Now, that's obviously not the nonsense. That's not what they're actually suggesting.
They're suggesting...
No, we need to ban guns.
I mean, it's the only way to...
We were talking about this a little bit off the year.
You're going to make me do this again, but we were talking...
Jeffie's been taunting me with Australia.
Just saying that Australia did it right.
You know that they didn't do it right.
And nothing happened.
Nothing happened.
I know what I read, Stu.
And I read that there were mass shootings prior to the ban.
And there were zero mass shootings after the ban.
Fascinating.
Fascinating.
First of all, no one believes you read.
Okay.
No one, no one believes this story.
So AI told me.
One of the things, so to go through this quickly, we went through this a little bit on the show, I don't know, a week or two ago.
But if you don't know, a lot of people hear this Australia argument.
And it's important to understand that none of the proposals coming from the left actually are even proposing the Australia changes because they are terrified of admitting this is what they want to do.
Yeah.
Australia, you know, gets plenty of things right.
You know, kangaroos, crocodile Dundee.
The bread from Outback Steakhouse is really good.
Yeah, it is.
That's pretty much, I think that is.
No, bloomin onion?
Bloom an onion.
Mm-hmm.
Delicious.
Yeah.
Delicious.
There's a lot of things they do fine.
But when it comes to gun control, did they get this right?
First of all, what do they do?
Number one, they prohibited.
semi-automatic and automatic assault rifles.
Now, you have heard that talked about.
Yes.
Right?
Usually what that is, is you would, the proposals in the United States are you would ban them,
which we tried, by the way, here in the United States, did not do anything.
But they would ban the new purchase of them.
So the ones that exist already exist.
They're not talking about coming to your house and taking them because they're embarrassed to say that,
because they know you will not react well to it.
Right.
Right.
But they act as if that's going to make a big difference.
The measure prohibited automatic and semi-automatic assault rifles, made it tougher to get a license, tightened ownership rules, made people, listen to this one, Jeffi, made people demonstrate to the government a, quote, genuine need for their guns.
Can you imagine this scenario?
Also take a firearm safety course and launch a gun buyback program.
That's the part that most people focus on.
So you would make people so they could not buy a new assault weapon.
quote unquote assault weapons and they would buy back a bunch of them.
So did this work?
2008 study from University of Melbourne concluded that, quote, there is little evidence to
suggest that the Australian mandatory gun buyback program had any significant effects on
firearm homicides.
Another study concluded, quote, the gun buyback and restrictive legislative changes had no
influence on firearm homicide in Australia.
One of the reasons for this is because there weren't a lot of.
lot of homicides in Australia anyway.
And what homicides were there were already falling in advance of these changes.
So the trends that existed before they made these legislative change did continue.
They continued, yeah.
But it was not because of this.
But we do know that there were, I mean, I'm just going by what the Journal of the American
Medical Association said that in the 18 years before the laws were passed, there were 13 mass
shootings, none afterward.
Yeah. What do you got to say to that, Stu?
It's an interesting thought as to how, like what you're trying to stop.
Are you trying to stop mass murder like we saw?
Yeah.
And again, this is, thankfully only two people were killed.
It's actually legitimately a miracle and two kids died of that incident.
And that's a terrible, terrible situation, obviously for those families, a bunch of other people
were injured, some seriously.
the fact that it was only two people in that in that particular circumstance is amazing.
But is your goal to stop that incident, right?
Where a gunman comes in and shoots a bunch of people in a church.
Or is it your goal to stop murders?
Right.
Is your goal to stop a certain type of murder?
A marquee event that gets all the headlines that, by the way, you shouldn't give them.
Or is it just stop murder?
Like, for example, Jeffrey.
Okay.
I went to high school in the 90s.
And when you go back and you look at the numbers,
I was far more likely to die in a school shooting in the 90s than I am today.
How did you survive?
It's not even close.
I mean, the numbers are, it's not even close.
It's multiple times as likely as I am today.
In fact, when I first heard that statistic, I was shocked by it.
I mean, even as someone who's skeptical of most things,
was shocked by that. I did not know that. The reason was the way violence happened at schools
back in the 90s was a bunch of random people shooting random people at random schools. Not one person
coming in and shooting 20 people at one school. Right, right, right. And like, I don't know.
Do you feel better about it? Do we all feel better about it that it wasn't just a couple of people
in a school in one place, in 20 places rather than 10 people in one place? Like, neither one is something
that I want. Right. But the overall rate coming down is something that you'd think would be important. And we've
added hundreds of millions of guns to our society in that period. We have. And if it were the guns,
we would know it. Right. If that was the problem, we would already know that that's the problem.
And they all say this, right? They all say, oh, that's the problem. It's the guns. Well, the Australia thing,
to get back to it, they bought back between 20 and 35 percent of the country's firearms.
which if you map that onto our country,
you've got about 400 million guns in this country.
Let's say the number is about a third.
Okay.
So, or a quarter, let's say.
You said it's 100 million guns you'd be buying back.
First of all, very expensive program.
A lot of money to buy 100 million guns.
Number two, if you succeed with this,
can you imagine what people would do?
I don't even want to talk about what people would do,
because it would not be pretty.
No.
But if you buy back 100 million guns somehow and get 100 million guns, what are you left with?
I'll give you a hint.
It's called 300 million guns.
This is a gun culture.
This is not a country.
Australia only had, you know, a couple million guns across the entire country.
So buying, they bought 650,000 to a million of them.
You know, maybe that made a dent in the gun numbers.
It didn't seem to make a dent in the murder rates.
But it did make a dent, you know, in the gun ownership.
the people who had guns, I would guess, could make their case of why they needed them.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Well, maybe.
I mean, it depends on how the government.
This is the government being in control of your rights, right?
Our country is set up that rights come from God to the people and we lend them to the government.
In Australia, that's not the way that they look at it.
They look at it as the government gives you the rights.
So if the government decides, like they do in New York City, well, do you really need that permit?
Do you?
I don't know if you really need it.
Here, let me make a 12-step process that is almost impossible.
It's in one of Glenn's books, actually.
Yeah.
What's the control, maybe?
The gun?
It's in one of the books.
I can't remember.
It might be control, which was the gun control book, or it might be one of the other ones that
just covered gun control.
I can't remember.
But it has an entire flowchart of how to get a gun in New York City.
And it's completely ridiculous.
It's impossible.
I know someone who went through the process, and, you know, it took them years.
this is a person with no criminal record, upstanding member of society,
no chance that they're going to be, you know, be, you know, like some, you know, again,
you never know with these things, of course, but like no risk over any other person.
In fact, you'd say someone very safe.
There's no evidence that this person is going to be a lunatic.
Yes, and you'll be shocked to hear they got the permit eventually and have not committed any murders with it somehow.
Amazing.
Because the solution to taking away murder is not to take away innocent people's firearms.
That's not going to help you.
it's not going to help you.
But if you'd like to get rid of guns, there is a path to it.
And reason.com put together a really handy-dandy list for you to do this.
It's a five-step process.
And if you are legitimately interested in how to do that here, like let's say you don't
agree with us on the Second Amendment.
And you're thinking to yourself, well, I would like to get rid of these guns.
It's too big of a problem.
We see other places.
They don't have these big gun problems.
We need to get rid of guns.
Reason put together a handy five-step process for you to do that.
So it's like, it only takes like two minutes here, Jeffie.
So we can all learn together on how this would happen.
Here is how to get rid of guns in five steps.
Life hack, a gun-free America in five easy steps.
For a gun-free America, the first thing you'll need is two-thirds of Congress.
So elect a minimum of 67 senators and 290 representatives who are on your side.
Then have them vote to propose an amendment to the Constitution,
which repeals Second Amendment gun rights for all America.
Then convince the legislators of 38 states to ratify that amendment.
Okay.
Congratulations.
The second amendment is now history.
At this point, you've done absolutely nothing to decrease gun violence.
All you've done is remove the barrier for Congress to legally act.
You need to enact common sense gun reform.
You can try to do what Australia did and ban all guns.
That's not at all what they did, but whatever.
Go big or go home, right?
Get that law passed by Congress and signed by the president.
Great.
The law is passed and guns are now illegal.
The only thing left to do is enforce the law.
Guns don't just disappear because you passed a law.
You need to confiscate over 350 million guns scattered among over 330 million Americans.
Sure, you can try a buyback program like Australia,
but like Australia, that will still leave behind anywhere from 60 to 80% of privately owned firearms.
The rest of them, you have to take.
You'll need the police, the FBI, the ATF, the National Guard,
all known for their nuanced approach to potentially dangerous situations,
to go door to door through 3.8 million square miles of this country
and take them by force from thousands, if not millions,
of well-armed individuals,
many of whom would rather start a civil war than acquies.
Yes. So inevitably, gun violence, which is currently at a historic low, will skyrocket.
Huh.
But that is how you get a gun for America.
Okay, that's it. That's it. That's it. Easy steps.
That's it. Five steps.
I thought there was going to be more. That's not bad.
That's not bad at all. That should be quite easy. Good luck with that, by the way.
And at the end of it, of course, is true. Gun violence is not going to go down in that process.
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We're talking, and we've been dealing with a bunch of morons throughout the day here.
And we've got another one.
This is your girl.
My favorite.
Yeah, this is your girl here.
I love her.
I have to admit.
I'm a big fan.
I think of her.
I think of you.
Thank you.
Good.
That's what I want people to think.
Jasmine Crockett.
She is, of course, for the time being, a representative in Texas.
Here she is blabbing about something.
As many of you as possible to flood our state.
Like when it's election time, I want them to be so mad that they did all of this
because we have people coming from the entire country to Texas
to make sure that this little scheme that they tried to pull
where they were just going to steal and diminish the voices of black and brown people.
I want us to be so loud that they actually go running.
and trying to figure out what's that little racist town they all hiding in and in some what is in
Missouri Arkansas Arkansas I think they all ran to Arkansas that's what they need to run off to that's how I want them to feel after this election so no matter what happens
I need y'all to stay in this fight because literally the the war is just starting hmm it's interesting whenever
someone on the right uses terminology like that were accused of actually wanting war I'm confused who ran away
in Texas?
I don't know.
I thought it was the Democrats who ran away in Texas, interestingly.
Also, the other part of that, it's a little weird.
Is she inviting people from out of state to vote in Texas elections?
It sounds like it.
It sounds like it.
Seemed like that's what she was doing.
Yeah.
And she's, I guess she's a little upset over the redistricting, the redistricting of her, for constituents.
This is one of those things that have changed a little bit for her.
Democrats should not really want.
this process to go all out because Republicans have a lot more room to grow when it comes
redistricting in red states as opposed to what you can do in blue states.
Because blue states have already done it in most cases.
So you got that.
California is an example of this.
Gavin Newsom also in the news.
Here's Gavin.
In L.A., do you think ICE is not going to show up around voting and polling boost to chill participation?
You know that.
The National Guard, you know that.
Everybody knows what's at stake.
So we have to put a stake in the ground and do things.
differently. Now, why exactly would ICE be able to intimidate anyone in a voting line in California?
What, what, what, what, how exactly would that work? Because what they do is they take people who are illegal immigrants and remove them from the country.
Right. That's the thing you're complaining about all the time. Most people, if you're in line to vote,
how would you be intimidated? You're a citizen if you're in line to vote, right?
Supposed to be. Seems like an admission there, almost like he knows that people who are not citizens are voting.
a state. Huh. That's what it seemed like to me. Weird. Weird. But he's, you know, this is Gavin Newsom.
He's running for president. He wants to be in your hearts. Uh, so he can have more and more power.
What a dunce he is. He's serious. Nothing like my girl. Jasmine Crockett, who by the way,
should be the 2028 nominee for the Democrats. A hundred percent, please. Jasmine Crockett for
Democratic nomination, not the presidency, but just the nomination. This is Glenn Beck.
