The Glenn Beck Program - 'Sit Down and Take It?' - 4/27/18

Episode Date: April 27, 2018

Hour 1  America's dad goes down...Bill Cosby found guilty of rape...a man of many faces...a very sad ending to a fairy tale ...More headaches for NBC News...Tom Brokaw accused of sexual misconduct......FBI to open a investigation on Joy Reid hacking? ...Movie: Little Pink House...based on a true story, a small-town paramedic flees a bad marriage, buys a cottage, and paints it pink...then the US Supreme Court steps in?...Susette Kelo, the woman portrayed in the film speaks to Glenn ...Glenn hits a home run for Israel?    Hour 2 298,000 and counting?...Europe, leading the way on abortions...Alfie Evans lost...Bill O'Reilly chimes in...The Vatican was waiting to help?...China has had enough of North Korea's 'little rocket guy'...is this the end of the Korean war?...Huge win for President Trump...MSNBC = Cult? ...Bill's take on Kanya?...Bill's New Book is Coming Soon: 'Killing The SS'   Hour 3 Hillary's campaign fiance shenanigans continue...why is the mainstream media always barking up the wrong trees?...$84 million laundered ...Rabbi Daniel Lapin joins the show to talk about the '70th Anniversary of Israel'...Why has only America uniquely stood so solidly with Israel for many decades?...Is a 2 state-solution a guide to the future? ...rabbidaniellapin.com ...the Obama administration admits regrets? ...Texas town holds a .5K not 5K for underachievers...Stu's in!    The Glenn Beck Program with Glenn Beck and Stu Burguiere, Weekdays 9am–12pm ET on TheBlaze Radio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Blaze Radio Network. On demand. Courage. Truth. Glenn Beck. It's 1989. A crowd has gathered around a mystic who claims she can see the future. The crowd is silent.
Starting point is 00:00:26 All you can hear is the plastic rattle of the woman's bracelets and beads as he gyrates her hands around a crystal ball. In a feather bow, a head. she concentrates her attention, face contorting, her eyes close, focus, she says. Heel-clicking slippers that came with an Aladdin costume, the bulbous necked lady scatters some glittery dirt around the ancient table, stopping halfway to pull another handful out of a purple satiny, crown royal satchel with a gold-painted drawstring. Suddenly, she gasps. I see a spirit Even quite talking to me
Starting point is 00:01:14 You have come from the future With startling news Concentrate focus O.J Simpson He'll become a murderer Bruce Jenner Will become the world's First Conservative feminist
Starting point is 00:01:37 Michael Jackson He'll turn into a frail white woman Who wanders a circus like home With chimpanzees And Macaulay Culkin And I see pudding I see pudding pops
Starting point is 00:01:55 I see prison bars Bill Cosby He will go to prison He bursts into laughter Too unbelievable Bill Cosby in prison. America's father. Intelligent, funny.
Starting point is 00:02:19 He's trustworthy. He's America's dad. He warmly invited us into his home, and we invited him into ours. He's an inspiration to everyone, but especially young black children who were able to see a version of themselves that had never existed on TV, the Huxstable family, which is an emblem. of achievement, teachers followed and showed Fat Albert and the Cosby kids in class. Ridiculous, I'm telling you, the spirits are telling me.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Apparently for years it was another open secret in Hollywood. What a surprise. That Cosby had a darker side. But strangely, Cosby's downfall began at a comedy show with a joke. Google Bill Cosby. rapist, he told the audience. There's more results than Hannibal. You know the rest.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Women stepped forward in droves. 58 of them. Their stories were horrifying and hard to believe. The allegations spread across decades, but he denied them. But they kept mounting. Some of them were all too old to take to court, but a handful were not. and as Cosby dodged his lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit, the Cosby accusations sparked a social movement
Starting point is 00:03:52 that continued to capsize every industry. And yesterday, Bill Cosby... I went to... Where I see it? Went to prison? Frail and slumping. Now 80 years old, he gripped whomever was beside him as he walked into his room.
Starting point is 00:04:15 He faced three. Three counts have aggravated indecent assault for drugging and sexually assaulting. Andrea Constan in 2004, Cosby faces ten years now, but remain on bail until sentencing. Guilty! His downfall became official yesterday. Then as if that weren't enough disgrace, Cosby got nasty. He's always prided himself as the stand-up comedian who doesn't curse. He urged kids to speak well and be respectable.
Starting point is 00:04:48 When District Attorney Kevin Steele asked the judge to revoke the $1 million bail calling him a flight risk, he stood up in court and he says, he doesn't have a private plane, you a-hole. And apparently the way his face looked full of nasty rage was startling. How is this the same man who made funny faces when kids said the darnest things? How is this the same man that we watched? How is this the same man that had been given enough honorary degrees to fill a museum? How is this the guy that made the jazz album? A man so wholesome that he could make all of us feel good about eating pudding.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Well, actually, that probably wasn't that hard. But that man is gone now. The spirits tell me it was only a character, a disguise. a disguise for a guileful monster. It's Friday, April 27th. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program. Do you remember when I used to say you won't recognize your country? I didn't think Bill Cosby was part of that, but apparently, now so is Tom Brokaw.
Starting point is 00:06:19 What is happening? Yesterday, let's say hello to Stu. Hello, Stu, our executive producer. Yesterday, the news came out about Bill Cosby going to jail, and one of the reporters asked, how much does the Me Too movement play a role in the verdict? Stu? Yeah, this is a disturbing, interesting question, because I think we all understand, first of all, if Bill Cosby is guilty of these things,
Starting point is 00:06:55 it's great that he's in prison. We're very happy about that. It's interesting that his, you know, sort of prosecution here was made sort of as a campaign promise. I will go after Bill Cosby if elected, and now he has. You know, now he's gone after him
Starting point is 00:07:10 and now here we go. Bill Cosby's going to prison. And I think he did my guesses, right? And we don't know, but my guess is he did do these things. What's I thought interesting about that question, though, in particular, because it was asked all over the place. What impacted the Me Too movement have on this verdict?
Starting point is 00:07:28 They already tried this case and there was a mistrial. They went back to the court and got multiple additional witnesses. So initially, obviously, typically, they're thinking, well, this is about this case. This guy with this woman. Why do we want additional accusers? Last time they let one additional accuser testify. This time I think it was five.
Starting point is 00:07:49 So they got extra accusers in there and now they got the verdict that they wanted. But one of them is, is one of them now being pursued for, for perjury? I can find this. Steele also raised the possibility that Marguerite Margo Jackson, the defense's star witness. Oh, maybe investigated for perjury after the prosecution strongly implied her statement had been created and coached out of her by defense counsel. So it's, it's actually somebody on his side.
Starting point is 00:08:22 The issue here, though, is the Me Too movement is an interesting part of this, because that was the talk afterwards, the analysis. What did the Me Too movement have to do? Before this last trial, they didn't get this verdict. Then the Me Too movement happens and then they get the verdict. Well, that should have absolutely nothing to do with this trial. Nothing. This is a trial is about whether one person did something to someone else. It's not about whether guys in general are bad. It's not about whether Harvey Weinstein. Sting did a bunch of terrible things to people. It's about Bill Cosby. Now look, looking at the evidence, I think it's probably right that he's going to prison for this.
Starting point is 00:09:01 It certainly seems like there's an incredible amount of evidence. But the idea that attitudes generally change in society, she'd have no effect on a man's innocence or guilt. It is a supposed to be a really cold transaction, right? You go to court and there's a very sober look at facts. and then afterwards you come up with a verdict of whether one person, Bill Cosby, did this terrible thing to one other person. Not whether, you know, Louis C.K. did something.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And whether, you know, name the actor or actress you want to, actor or producer you want to put into this. The bottom mind is like, if that is true that that had an effect on this trial, he didn't get justice. I think he probably did do it. But again, you don't try these things in the court of public. opinion. It's supposed to be a cold, sober transaction. I'm worried about whether it was or not. So here's the next piece of news. Tom Brokaw. Apparently, an NBC correspondent says that Tom Brocah made
Starting point is 00:10:08 unwanted advances toward her two decades ago, groping and trying to forcibly kiss her. Linda Vester, who covered the Middle East and Africa for NBC, later joined Fox News, was in her 20s the time that she says Brokaw made the advances. He's now 78. He said, I met with Linda Vester on two occasions, both at her request, 23 years ago because she wanted advice with respect to her career at NBC. The meetings were brief, cordial, and appropriate, and despite Linda's allegations,
Starting point is 00:10:40 I made no romantic overtures toward her at that time or any other. She said, while I was standing there in the Denver Bureau with my back to the door, from behind me out of nowhere, Tom Brocaw walked up, put his hands on my waist, and tickled me up and down my waist. It was physically unpleasant and humiliating. I jumped a foot and looked at the editor of the nightly news in the eye. He looked back and his jaw had dropped. No one did a thing.
Starting point is 00:11:11 There was nothing I could do or say because I was so low on the totem pole. Okay. Inappropriate. Absolutely inappropriate. but he tickled you in front of people. Is that worth? Is that part of the Me Too thing? Public tickling?
Starting point is 00:11:36 Yes. I hadn't heard that before, but I mean, you know, you're right. It's an inappropriate touch if it happened. He says it didn't happen. And of course, how would anyone know? Okay, there's more. there's more, but I just want to take this piece by piece.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I barely knew him. I didn't work for his broadcast, but when the most powerful man of the network sends you a computer message, you answer him. According to Variety, she's speaking out because she believes her story sheds light on the culture of NBC News. Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I felt trapped. It was in... Okay, she described another incident in New York. when Brokaw insisted on visiting her in her hotel room and then twice tried to kiss her. Okay, well, that's, that's again, inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:12:33 You know, trying to kiss in the hotel room, you know, unwanted, not a good idea. No, I would agree. Again, if she felt that way and we weren't there, we have no idea. Taking just, though, on the accusations, or at least that you've just outlined. They seem obviously probably not a good idea, especially for someone who's powerful at a network to do something like that. But again, if, you know, a kiss has to have a consent, right? That consent is almost always implied and not verbal, right? Very rarely in your life do you say, excuse me, madam, might I kiss you?
Starting point is 00:13:18 And that person says, of course you may. Like, that's not typically how humans interact, right? Well, I, I did. Oh, you did? That's all, all of your... I did. No, seriously, I think I... I don't know if this is entirely true, but I try to ask, you know, anybody I've kissed before?
Starting point is 00:13:39 I think I always have asked the first time. Well, you're a loser, and so... No, I know. And I'm not very effective. I have no game. No, you have no game. So I'm just, you know, I'm just, you know, I... But I, there are moments, I guess, where you could do.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I mean, I probably did it at some point. But again, like typically, you know, right? The point is, you know, that's why I ask, because I never know. I have no game. I ask. You're getting hung up on your ineptitude. That's not part of this conversation at the moment. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Okay. You're all hung up on how pathetic you are. We got it. We all know. We're all been here many, many years listening to the show. We're all in interacting with you. Yes, we know you're bad. You're awful.
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Starting point is 00:16:42 Glenn Beck. Boy, there is so much to talk about here. The migrant caravan is at our border now in Tijuana. A lot of surprise. Trying to get in, not to Texas. Trying to get into California. Why do you live here?
Starting point is 00:17:03 I mean, from Los Angeles. Angeles where it's beautiful and sunny all the time. So they're preparing for a mass crossing could be this weekend. That's fantastic news. I can't wait to talk to Bill O'Reilly today because I want to talk to him about that. Tom Broca also, Joy Reid from MSNBC. Have you heard the latest now that they have, you know, her excuse was, I, okay, I said some bad things about gay people, sure.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I mean, but it was a different time. Oh, really? And I didn't mean it. Then some more stuff comes out. And instead of just saying, yes, I told you, I had that point of view or whatever, she's now saying, well, somebody hacked onto my site. No, nope. Because apparently the Library of Congress in 2006 archived her website.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I think along with everybody else's. And shows now that apparently these hackers were so thorough that they not only hacked her site, you know, so they could release this stuff now. But they also went back in time and hacked the copy in 2006 that the Library of Congress has. Wow. Yeah, that's a problem. Because now their claim rests on the fact that it was not hacked today when you could at least understand in theory why someone would, want to ruin her career because she's a kind of known person on MSNBC. Not really.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Not even that. Not really. I mean, the people at NBC are in surprise, they're like, who's this Joy Reed? Yeah. And back then, though, it's like she was fairly unknown even locally and someone would have had to hack with similar things that she was actually writing and admitted to, which is such a weird hack, right? Like, if you're going to hack someone, you're going to do something that they wouldn't
Starting point is 00:18:59 normally do. You wouldn't just continue writing in the same style with the same stuff. stuff. Right. So they had a tech expert they hired and they claim there was an FBI investigation going on on this hacking. And they picked six pictures that they said were altered. So screenshots, they didn't even exist on the site. Well, now people have gone back and found that they, those pictures, those excerpts did exist on the site the whole time. So they were wrong on that. There was another part where some of the blog posts were tagged
Starting point is 00:19:35 with things like, you know, gay issues or something. And her claim was, well, I never did that. I never tagged anything with gay issues. And they looked back at it and it wasn't, it was a third party site that did that without their knowledge, had nothing to do with them. But again,
Starting point is 00:19:52 proves, right, that another site saw the post at the time and tagged it gay issues. There was another, they found a comment of, about one of her posts on a different website at that time. These hackers are very thorough. Very thorough.
Starting point is 00:20:08 They're very thorough. Very thorough. Very thorough. All right. We have a really fascinating person who has quite the story to tell. Coming up next, how would you feel if the government just came in and said, oh yeah, your house is mine. Glenn.
Starting point is 00:20:26 You got to leave. Next. Mercury. This is the Glenn Beck program. You know, I'm very much, I'm very much focused right now on talking to people who have actually witnessed firsthand history, real history. I saw a video clip on YouTube the other day of a man who witnessed the shooting of Abraham Lincoln. And it was on an old show in the 1950s called, I've Got a Secret. And this old 90-year-old guy stepped to the plate.
Starting point is 00:21:12 and he was five years old. All he remembered was Booth jumping out of the presidential box and breaking his leg on stage. He remembered that. And it was such a fascinating thing that, you know, wow. A few years ago, I found the story of Tokyo Rose and how she was wronged and how all of history is wrong about her. And I wish I would have talked to her because she had just died. Well, there's somebody else that has played a huge role in our country's history. history, not that she meant to. Her name is Suzette Keelow, the Keelow case. She is the woman
Starting point is 00:21:50 who bought a little house, painted it pink, was in love with it, and the city came and said, yeah, we're going to take your house, eminent domain, because we're going to give it to this giant corporation, or we're going to build a hotel there, and they'll pay more tax money. it's an amazingly true story of a small town paramedic that left a bad marriage, buys a house, paints it pink, and then tries to stop it from being bulldozed by the city. She loses that case, but she has changed history because she stood. Suzette Keelow is with us now. She's, her story is being told in the film Little Pink House.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Also, Courtney Moorhead Ballaker is with us. She's the writer, director, and producer of the movie. Welcome, ladies. Thank you for having us, fun. Yes, good morning. Thank you. You bet. Susette, since we reached out last week and I saw the movie, and I thought, I've got to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:22:53 You've done very few interviews I've heard, but I've seen you speak. My producers have seen you speak before. Can you just tell the story a little bit on what it felt like to have somebody knock at your door and say, we're going to take your house. Well, I guess you could say it's like your worst nightmare, right? So, you know, here we are just living in this little neighborhood, myself and my neighbors, and that's exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:23:23 The articles in the paper of course started first, so we were aware of what was going on, and then as time went on, real estate agents came forward. whether they were working independently or for New London Development Corporation, you know, or both, and, you know, saying that, you know, we'd like to buy your house and, you know, do you want to sell it? And that's pretty much what, how it came, how it happened. And to say the first time is, you know, no, I'm not interested in selling it. And the second time to come back and be confronted with if you don't sell it, you're going to lose it by eminent to me. at that point
Starting point is 00:24:03 you had to have thought because I know I would have you can't do that I'm not going to lose my house get off my lawn this is my house not in America is that the attitude
Starting point is 00:24:13 you had yeah and that's exactly right you know she was standing on the porch and when she came in and I asked her a similar question as to the brooch and saying you know
Starting point is 00:24:23 the value of something that's your family heirloom and you know she got what I was talking about and and then I told her I said, don't come back, because if you come back, I'll throw you off the porch. So, you know, I'll throw you out, so don't come back again. So I'm not interested in selling my property.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And when you heard the Supreme Court rule against you, what happened? What was going through your mind? We, we as the groups knew that if they didn't, our rule in our favor, that, you know, we would have to leave. But we never in a million years ever thought it would happen. It was almost, you know, I describe it as like everything in the beginning, we started as a little grassroots, you know, group saying, you know, if we write this letter to the editor, perhaps all this will stop. Or if we, I go on this news program, we talk there to stop.
Starting point is 00:25:25 So, you know, every time that something happened that we did, and myself and my neighbors just prayed that the eminent domain would stop. and when IJ took the case, we said, okay, now this is going to stop. But it just continued with, you know, not going in our favor. And again, when it went to the United States Supreme Court, we said, okay, now it's going to stop. Now it will be safe. But even then we weren't. So, Suzanne, when it's all set and done, I remember, I mean, there were a few, I think the year was 1995 that I started really questioning what,
Starting point is 00:26:00 how our system even works when I saw O.J. Simpson go free. When I saw Timothy McVeigh blow up the federal building the same year, I remember thinking, I don't know if I know my country. How do you feel today? Do you feel the same about the country as you did before? We used to say, the group that here we are in this little neighborhood. We're minding our own business, which I want to work every day, with law-abiding citizens, we're paying our taxes, we maintain our property, and that's what we said.
Starting point is 00:26:37 How can they do this to us? I often referred to when I spoke to public officials often said that the rules are at our doors. We're being threatened in our own own. And so the way I often answer a question, you know, question like this is, we're fortunate. We live in a country where we could fight, but it's unbelievable that we were pushed. to have to fight, I guess. Yeah. And the fact that nobody has built anything on your property,
Starting point is 00:27:13 and it's still sitting now empty and unattended with zero tax dollars going into the city? How's that make you feel? Well, you know, really, that's our just dessert. That's their just dessert. You know, that's our victory as the neighbors in that neighborhood, as the people that were there. That's our victory. That nothing came there.
Starting point is 00:27:32 You know what I mean? in a sense of, look at you did, and you did it all for nothing. And, you know, and that's for us, it's actually. Courtney, you're the writer, the producer, and the director of this film. By the way, great job. I thought you told the story really, really well, and it was really well done. When you saw this story, what made you think, oh, I have to tell the story, and this is going to be something people are going to want to go see?
Starting point is 00:28:04 Two reasons, really. First of all, I was completely outraged when I read the book, Little Pink House, written by Jeff Benedict, that's a fantastic book, that documented the entire ordeal. It was a 10-year time span for Suzette and her neighbors from when she bought her house, fixed it up, painted it pink,
Starting point is 00:28:28 to the time when the Supreme Court decision came out. I could not believe that something like this happened, that something like this was considered legal by the United States Supreme Court. And the other reason I had to make the film is because I was blown away by Suzette's stance, her principled position to say, no, you can't do this.
Starting point is 00:28:49 This is not right. Suzette didn't want to be the public face of this issue. She didn't want to, you know, be a crusader. She did this completely outside of her comfort zone, and I was really inspired by her resistance and her integrity. and I felt like America needed to see what happened in this town, not only to show how horrible cronyism is, but that it still happens all over the country.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And we want to use the film to bring awareness to that and hopefully bring it into it. Was there any artistic license taken, Suzanne, with your story? I mean, you had to have been, I mean, boy, you had some rough years. You leave a bad marriage. You find a house. You fix it up. It's great.
Starting point is 00:29:39 You fall in love. You fall in love with a decent guy who, you know, you eventually marry. But he is debilitated halfway through this fight. I mean, I don't know what kept you going. Is all of that true? Oh, yes. Yeah. Every minute of it is true.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Absolutely. So what kept you going? going? Perseverance. You know, I'm just, I don't know. I don't know what kept me going. Just because it was the right thing to do for the fight for the fort where we were, I mean, that was, you know, was the right thing to do.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And just, you know, perseverance. I just kept following forward. Courtney, I can't, it's hard to believe a movie like this could get made because, you know, we see the way Hollywood kind of treats a lot of these stories, and they don't want to tell stories like this. tell stories like this where the government is doing things like this. And these are real constitutional issues where you're teaching, you know, America in an interesting and entertaining way, a really sad story about what can do if government grows too large. How did this movie even get mate? Well, yeah, you know, making any independent film is always an uphill battle. My husband and
Starting point is 00:30:59 producing partner, Ted Ballacher and I, we formed our own company, Corchilla, productions and our motto is making important ideas entertaining. And we set out to make movies that, you know, basically do just that, that entertain but inform and hopefully have an impact. And, you know, we could have gone to studios and tried to partner with them. It was very important to us to tell the truth and to make sure that the details of this story were laid out very accurately. This was not Pfizer knocking on doors offering money to people to buy their homes.
Starting point is 00:31:39 It was the city that wanted to push Suzanne and her neighbors off of their land so that a developer could come in and build stuff that could benefit Pfizer. And, you know, that's an important detail. I think oftentimes Hollywood always wants to blame one entity. This is a very complicated story. very complicated issue. And as I mentioned earlier, it's about cronyism. When government and big corporations team up, the little guy loses. And often politicians say, oh, we're for the little guy. And that's not the case when it comes to eminent domain abuse. And so we wanted to make a film
Starting point is 00:32:21 that accurately portrayed what happened in Suzette's neighborhood, and we wanted to put a human face on it. And it was a challenge. But so far, we have felt a lot of success and a lot of, we've been embraced by, we sold out the Guard in New London, Connecticut. That was our world premiere on the 16th. 1,500 people showed up and bought tickets. Wow. We had to turn people away. They're having encore performance, and we're in several cities throughout the nation,
Starting point is 00:32:55 and people can find out Little Pinkhouse Movie.com if we're playing in your city, and if we're not, you can bring the film to your town. And, you know, Glenn, we're finding that people, this is really resonating with people because everybody knows what home is. Whether you own a home or rent a home, everybody knows what that is and the importance of that. And we're very hopeful that audiences will continue to connect with Suzanne,
Starting point is 00:33:23 not only for what she did, but for what she stands for, and as you said, It's a historic Supreme Court decision. It really isn't. Millions of millions of homes. You did a fantastic job on telling the story. I think it's really good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Last one, Suzanne. I grew up in Connecticut. I spent many summer weekends at Ocean Beach Park right down the street from where the story is told. I'm curious, after all of this happened, did you decide to stay in the area? Does it seem frustrating? Are you angry about it? What happened after the story? Well, myself and my neighbors, we all bought a home in other towns.
Starting point is 00:34:05 None of us stayed in New London. And it's heartbreaking to see New London to do what it does to itself, you know, was imminent the main case. And are we frustrated? Yeah, I guess you could say we were definitely frustrated. And like you said, unfortunately, we lost and we all had to, you know, you know, they had to have your houses and have to have your house. Thank you so much for
Starting point is 00:34:32 joining us. The website, if you wanted to come to your town or to find out if it is in your town, little pinkhousemovie.com, well worth the time spent. Thank you very much for being a part of the program today. By the way, Connecticut continues to do the same thing, and they are driving people out of their state. It's pretty amazing. Big news. Last two weeks, SimpleSafe won the Editor's Choice Awards from CNET magazine, PC magazine, and Wirecutter. Three respected product testers, and they put SimplySafe through a battery of test.
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Starting point is 00:36:58 names? It's the most incredible story ever. Wow. I had absolutely no idea. He's going to go on with us. When you really understand history, everything just kind of. snaps into place. We'll talk to him coming up at an hour or so.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Bill O'Reilly is coming up next. There is so much to go over with Bill O'Reilly. From the border mess that is coming, the caravan is going to happen this weekend on the border here in California. We'll get his take on that. The latest in Washington. Also, Joy Reed, Tom Brokaw, Bill Cosby. Wow, a lot to cover.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Bill O'Reilly next. Glenn, back. Mercury. truth. So what's the measure of human life? You know, this should be a gimmie. This should be a no-brainer. But with the way we become so desensitive to the sanctity of human life, does anyone even know anymore what life means? We used to find these things self-evident. But since 2009, the United States is averaging 700,000 abortions per year. We're only four months into this year, and we've already killed 298,000 babies. Just this morning, over 700 abortions have been committed in the United States. Now, think about that number,
Starting point is 00:38:30 and then try to answer that question, whether we even understand the value of human life. We should probably decide this pretty quickly, because we're seeing in the U.S., or I'm sorry, in the U.K. with Alfie Evans, what we're seeing there is going to come here and become our reality. Democrats are poised to make big gains over the next two years, and they've already signaled that single-payer health care is going to be their top ticket item. That's what the UK has. And in the UK, they're considered by progressives as the gold standard when it comes to single payer health systems.
Starting point is 00:39:08 America, you need to ask yourself right now, is that the kind of health care you want? If you want to know what they want for all of us, all you have to do is look across to England. Look at what they're doing. They're murdering today a small baby. Alder Hay Hospital is not only denying Alfie medical care, Alfie Evans's two-year-old kid, but they won't even let his parents take him home to die, let alone just put him on a helicopter that the Pope has provided and let him go to another country, Italy, to be able to be possibly saved.
Starting point is 00:39:48 They're now saying that unless his parents have a, quote, sea change in attitude, they're not going to allow Alfie to go home. Are you kidding me? Their son is dying, the state is killing him, and they expect Alfie's parents to have a good attitude? Who the hell do you think you are? Well, let me tell you who they are. As it turns out, Alder Hay Hospital has a long history
Starting point is 00:40:12 of treating their patients as little more than cattle. In 1998, a heart specialist at Alder Hay accidentally revealed during an inquiry that the hospital, that the hospital was storing in bulk children's organs. Now, these organs were being held without consent from the parents. Alder Hay Hospital was harvesting the organs from dead children. They were also caught selling human tissue to pharmaceutical companies in exchange for cash donations. Why?
Starting point is 00:40:44 Because universal health care doesn't work. But what they didn't sell, they stockpiled. Alder Hay had 2,080 children's hearts, over 800 other organs, 400 full fetuses. A pathologist at Alder Hay was even accused of keeping the head of a baby in a jar. And none of this was done with parental consent. When the story came out finally in 2001, distraught parents begged for their baby's organs to be turned over to them. Many of them held a second funeral. one woman had to bury her baby's heart, lungs, and esophagus.
Starting point is 00:41:26 You see, this is what you get when the state controls health care. This is what you get when there's no higher authority. This is what you get when you have to sit down and take it. It's evil. Your choice is being taken away from you. How long does it take for the state to see its people, not as human beings, but as a resource, as livestock? And this is what the progressives want for us here in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Get ready. Because the debate for single-payer health care is coming. It's coming in the next 24 months. And when that debate begins, you better believe they won't mention the story of Alder Hay Hospital or Alfie Evans. We're going to have to do it for them. It's Friday, April 27th. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.
Starting point is 00:42:23 The one, the only Bill O'Reilly, is joining us now. Bill, any thoughts on this hospital and what's happening over in England? You know, this isn't the first time that the British authorities have basically said our posture is that if a child or an elderly person cannot survive, if we deem that to be true, then we're not going to do anything to elongate the life. That's what it's about. And they're not going to deviate out of that. The atrocity, though, is that, as you pointed out, the Vatican said, look, we'll care for the child.
Starting point is 00:43:02 You know, we believe that life is sacred, and there's a cycle of life, birth and death, and that will take care of the child at our expense. So why would the British authorities say, no, you can't do that? That's when you get into real oppression. But I want to address your remarks about America. You know, we live in a climate now where there are a substantial number of American citizens who simply reject any kind of debate or any kind of alternative view on abortion. And they say, well, I know. See, I know when life begins.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And it doesn't begin until this date. I know. And then you look at it and you go, how could you possibly know nobody knows that. All right. and human DNA and all of the science says that life begins on conception, and 95% of the doctors in the United States will not perform abortions because of that. Did you know that back? 95% will not perform abortions?
Starting point is 00:44:06 I didn't know that. 95% according to the AMA of American doctors will not do the procedure. So that's pretty strong evidence, I think. But if you present the evidence, then you're misogynist. You're against reproductive rights. You hate women. And the New York Times has taken the lead on this. They're the lead media outlet that promotes abortion as a civil right.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Not an issue to be discussed. Not an issue to be, as Bill Clinton once said, you know, rare. We should be, everybody should be going together to make abortion rare. She pointed out it's not rare. In some circles it's used as birth control. He had six abortions. An abortion that Planned Parenthood sets up for her for free. And so all of this stuff is in play.
Starting point is 00:45:07 It's all real. And you've got to get people's attention to talk about something this horrendous is very difficult because we live in an age of narcissism where people don't want to pay attention to that. So, Bill, let me go back to Alfie Evans because I don't know if you saw what the police have put out, but they issued a tweet that said, I would like to make people aware that these posts are being monitored and remind social media users that any offenses, including malicious communications and threatening behavior,
Starting point is 00:45:41 will be investigated where necessary, and it will be acted upon. That's not the only one that they put out yesterday. They put out a few of these saying, we're watching your social media and we will come after you. you, this is getting more and more big brother-esque and controlling of the life. And I wonder if it would happen. Let me just jump in here and put it into some kind of perspective. I don't disagree that the British authorities could not care less about the life cycle.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I mean, it's clear they don't. It's a secular country. They don't believe in religion over there. I mean, their main religion is the Anglican faith founded by that great theologian. Henry the 8th. Okay? So I don't want to be disparaging, but they don't care about religion. But what the police did was because of this hospital, the people running the hospital
Starting point is 00:46:41 are now have been threatened. Their lives have been threatened. And that's what this is pretty much all about. So I would like to know what you would do, Bill O'Reilly, if you had baby, you know, Alfie O'Reilly, I would have got down in that system. I have a friend Graham Barker, who is a physician in Great Britain. I live there for a year. And Barker is a private physician.
Starting point is 00:47:07 He doesn't take government subsidies of any kind. But you've got to have money to pay him. And these people don't. But say that you're not – say that you're not – say that you're not Bill O'Reilly's wallet. Right. And you are – his parents. What would you do?
Starting point is 00:47:23 I would go to Italy. I'd take it – for a long time ago. because this is not the first time this has happened. So as soon as the diagnosis came down from the hospital that your baby's going to die and we're not going to elongate the baby's life under any circumstances, the next day I would have been on a plane or a train to Italy and to appeal to the Vatican because the Vatican will help. So that's what I would have done.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Do you think people, do you think this is coming here and people will tolerate it? I don't think it's coming here for constitutional reasons. I don't think you're ever going to have you. in Asia here. I don't think you're ever going to have a system whereby the government prevents you from going to Rome to save your baby or elongate the baby's life. I don't think you'll ever have that because of constitutional issues. Our constitution is much stronger than Britain. But what I think that there is going to be a struggle about, and it's a shame, is this abortion business. Because are pro-life if your religion or your morality dictates that you believe a baby is a human
Starting point is 00:48:35 being unconception. Now, it's allowed that the other side can attack you and demonize you and try to destroy you. That's really the essence of this. We live in a society. The Supreme Court is rule Rovi-Way, that abortion is the law. Okay. But to attack people, try to harm them because they hold it a poison point of view as the liberal media does. Back with Bill O'Reilly here in just a second. Also, earlier this week, I talked to Dave Rubin about abortion. He's a guy who used to describe himself as a progressive year ago. He started down this road, and he is still pro-choice. But we had a fascinating conversation about he recognizes that he's being hypocritical in some ways. And he kind of hinted that,
Starting point is 00:49:29 I know I'm going to be moving at some point. More with Bill O'Reilly in just a second. We have to cover the end of the Korean War, which much to many people's surprise is still going on. We'll have that coming up next. All right, I want to tell you a little bit about Filterby and thank you Filterby for being one of our sponsors. This is a company that makes air filters for your home. It also makes it for your office. office. U.S. companies lose about $250 million a year due to employees just having allergies.
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Starting point is 00:51:15 Filterby.com. Glenn, Beck, Mercury. We have so much to talk to Bill O'Reilly about before the end of the hour. The end of the Korean War, Bill Cosby, the migrant caravan that's on our border now. Joy Reed, Ronnie Jackson, Tom Brokaw, just a lot to cover. Bill, let's start with the end of the Korean War last night. Yeah, the reason has happened. I just posted this on Bill O'Reilly.com.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Message of the Day, Beck, which I know you eagerly read each morning to imbue yourself with wisdom. Oh, my gosh. Just do what that means. Anyway, here's what happened. You ready for what really happened? Yes. So the Chinese told the little rocket man, hey, you're bad for business, bud, and you're going to knock it off. And if you don't knock it off, we're stopping the oil flow into your little kingdom there, and everything will collapse, and you will be killed.
Starting point is 00:52:31 All right? So that's what the Chinese said to the little rocket guy. All right? So he pulled up his short pants, and he said, I better do something here. And it's not going my way. nobody's on my side, so I'll get back in the spotlight by seeming to be reasonable. First, I'll agree to meet with President Trump, which is like a big win for me, because I'm no one, but he's the most famous person in the world now.
Starting point is 00:52:59 And secondly, I'll run across the militarized border and embrace my counterpart in South Korea and say the Korean War is dead. All of this is happening to fulfill the narcissism, of little rocket guy. But that's okay because it's a benefit to the world if it all plays out. And I think it will because China has had enough. They don't want the world economy royaled because of this little nut. And that's what's happening.
Starting point is 00:53:30 So what does it mean that the end of the Korean War? What does that mean? The Korean War was never really, there was never a treaty. It was a stalemate, as you'll remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Killing the Rising Sun. I mean, after World War II, the communist north and the capitalist South faced off, and then they fought. And America came into the war on the side of South Korea.
Starting point is 00:53:56 China came in on North Korea, but nobody won. So they just stopped fighting, no treaty. So now it looks like little rocket guy is going to ask for a formal end to the war, which is 65 years old now. And that will that mean, is this a, like, an end to the wall, or do you think that remains? Yeah, it could be, it could be the Berlin situation. They could have, but the problem for Little Rocket Guy is, and why I don't think the wall will come down, is because as soon as it comes down, everybody in North Korea will leave, he'll be alone. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:32 They'll all go, yay, see you. And South Korea, South Korea doesn't want that because then they'd ever feed them all. China doesn't want that. So it'll probably still remain the same, but the level of threat from North Korea will drop, at least in the short term. Bill, is there a quick question here? If you're going to use the nickname, shouldn't you use it with the Elton John song? You're calling him Little Rocket Guy. Is there a reason you're not calling it?
Starting point is 00:55:00 Better than Rocket Man, because I don't consider this guy a man. Okay. You know, a real man doesn't murder people and doesn't starve his own population. So little rocket guy, I think, is just even more insulting. Part two, the second part of this is, if you have, are you concerned that everyone declares peace in our time, we pull out our troops, everyone's pulled down their defenses, and then North Korea can go into South Korea without any opposition. Well, we're not going to pull a troops out, number one. That'll never happen. Because you just need them there strategically. You need the air bases because of China. So they're never going to happen.
Starting point is 00:55:41 And, you know, look, the guy, you know, he's crazy, he could do anything. But at this point, it's a big win for Trump. Of course, that's why the liberal media is playing it down. You're not going to see it. This will be a one-day story. And then look, the best thing that Kim Jong-un could have done, as I pointed out, on bill o'Reilly.com, is gone to South Korea with Stormy Daniels. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:09 If he had done that. They would have covered it. Mass of coverage. Yes. Yes. It's really amazing. It's really amazing. How do you not recognize this as a Trump victory?
Starting point is 00:56:27 Well, they don't want to. You know, of course it's a Trump victory. Because China knows that Trump is going to give them a hard time unless they cooperate on North Korea and the trade imbalance. China knows that. Obama, Obama couldn't care less. They can do whatever they want when Obama's in a white. Trump's a different guy. Isn't the reason, though, that we don't recognize it as a Trump victory is that it's not yet a victory, right? It's a step in the right direction. But you, Stu, don't you want the story to be covered? Oh, absolutely. Yes, of course. I'm telling you, you go out now and you talk to the American public about, hey, did you see what
Starting point is 00:57:03 Kim Jong-un did today? And they look at you like, what? What? And then you said, he was with Stormy Daniels. Really? Really? It's true. You put Stormy in the middle of this. Again, that's why Rodman, that's the only time North Korea ever gets covered is when Rodman went over there.
Starting point is 00:57:20 If you throw Stormy in the middle of us. I mean, I think they threatened that he was going to go back, and that was another reason why they were. Oh, Bill. Bill. I'm happy with that analysis back. I think that's, I think, you know, I think it's pretty good. Bill. I think it's pretty good. And I take
Starting point is 00:57:39 a little bit of umbrage, if you will, with Stu here on it's not really a Trump victory because it's not done yet. Yeah, it's not. And I don't want to declare peace in our time. I don't want to be Neville Chamberlain. But it is movement that we have never seen before. And you know if anyone else were president, we would not be seeing this movement. Now, how it ends, I don't know. But today, it's a victory.
Starting point is 00:58:07 back, Mercury. Life is all about making the right decision in big moments. When you have that huge thing going on in your life and you can go one of two paths, it's important to choose the right path because it doesn't matter how many small choices you make that are right in those other moments. If you make the wrong choice at a big moment, it's going to burn you for a long time. I can give you a good example of this, real estate agents. If you pick the wrong real estate agent and then you have to go through selling or buying a home,
Starting point is 00:58:39 it can be a mistake that haunts you for a really long time. That's one of the reasons Glenn and his wife, Tanya, started Real Estate Agents I Trust.com. They were trying to sell their house. They were frustrated with it, and they thought there's just got to be a better way to get this done. What they have come up with is a system to screen real estate agents for people who share your values, listen to the show, and, you know, have great marketing plans and know how to do this better than anyone. They have 1,200 agents all across America. You just put your location in there, and you get the best agent in your area.
Starting point is 00:59:09 It's real estate agents. I trust.com. Real estate agents I trust.com. This is the Glenn Beck program. So we have Bill O'Reilly on it, and I would like to ask him, no bloviating, bloviating word of the day, Bill. You. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:32 We have a lot to go over. Let's start with the migrant caravan that has now reunited in Tijuana, and they're planning on crossing the border together this weekend. and come into the United States illegally. Yeah, not going to happen. Mexican police will stop it. You don't think that America is going to have to get involved in something like what's happening with the Palestinians. No.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I think that the Mexican government, again, this is because of Trump, is so scared to him. Yeah. And NAFTA is being renegotiated, as you know, right now. So those people are, you know, they'll have brunch and then they'll log a home. Why wouldn't the Mexican government have stopped it beforehand? I mean, if we knew that... They broke it up in central Mexico, and there's, you know, a few diehards, but not that many. But they did break it up after Trump said, you better break it up.
Starting point is 01:00:32 There are 600 of them. Yeah. I believe there's 600 of them. I don't think so. I don't think there's that many. Maybe 200 or whatever. It's a stunt. But the Mexican police are pretty tough, and they're not going to let these people get to the border.
Starting point is 01:00:46 That's a big border crossing, by the way. And I predict that could be wrong that the demonstrators won't even get close to the border. That would be great if that were true. Let's go to Joy Reed. Do you know Joy Reed? I do not. Never had the pleasure of meeting the woman. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:04 She first said that her website was hacked. No, no. She first said that she has made homophobic statements in the past. Then she said that her website was hacked. and the homophobic posts were fabricated. Now we know, after some forensics, that this would have had to be a really sophisticated hacker that could have seen the future,
Starting point is 01:01:27 because the Library of Congress went and archived all of the blogs at the time in 2006, and these posts were on the blog at that time. So unless they went back and fabricated them, either broke into the National Archives as well, or they fabricated it at the time, hoping that she would become famous and all of this would matter. Looks like she wrote them. Yeah, it looks like she wrote them.
Starting point is 01:01:57 So now we have a far left person who doesn't like gays or at least didn't like them, and that's what we have, and that's, I think, the truth. And so what should happen to her? You know, NBC is probably going to just ease her. out. That's usually what happens in these big organizations. But I really can't predict what will happen other than she's lost credibility among her core believers. So that's not a good thing for her. Okay, there's the breaking news stations. Breaking News, Bill O'Reilly seems to claim that Joy Reid has believers. Oh, yeah, sure. I didn't even know she was even on TV.
Starting point is 01:02:44 You know, that MSNBC cult, they should move to Eastern Oregon where the Rajneesh guy was at one time. They can live there altogether. That's what I would like to see. NBC seems to be having trouble. Talk to me about Tom Brokaw. You know, I know Brokaw for a long time, as I told you, when I had to deal with this, there are two things that are in stone. Number one, you take each case on its own.
Starting point is 01:03:08 You do not generalize about anything. Number two, nobody really knows what happened because nobody was dead. there other than the principles who lodge accusations and those who deny. So when you keep that into perspective, the other bit of wisdom that I gave you in Stu was that every single prosperous man in this country whose prosperous is not at risk. Now, I don't know what happened with Tom Brokaw. I hear rumors every day of 30 are disrupted this way because it happened to me, and I know how painful it is.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Bill Cosby. He was found guilty yesterday. I think justice was served. I think he did it. I think he's got a shot on appeal, though, because the state, the prosecutor's office, I mean, they did some pretty underhanded things, but I think the jury's verdict is correct
Starting point is 01:04:23 from what I can see as a journalist covering it. This doesn't seem there would be a significant line between a lot of these accusations and the Cosby's situation. And that Cosby's case goes to court. There's an actual proceeding. He's found guilty. You know, we've had a lot of accusations about people, and there have been very few of these supposedly illegal acts
Starting point is 01:04:45 that have actually been prosecuted, including even Harvey Weinstein. Yeah, well, again, I mean, it's up to the authorities to bring these cases, but I can tell you there's a big story in New York City right now. the city government had the deal with 1,312 complaints of sexual harassment
Starting point is 01:05:05 from July 13 through 2017, 1,312 221 were substantiated. This is a complicated situation. All right. And it's a situation that is brutal because women
Starting point is 01:05:25 and men should not be abused by anyone. one in power, but there are also a lot of false accusations in this world. So let's talk about an accusation that's not being covered, really. The Clinton campaign effectively laundering $84 million during the 2016 election. The press is up in arms over, what, $130,000. And is this violated campaign finance? $130,000 to Stormy Daniels, which I think if it's true, it's a big deal, if it broke any laws. But this is $84 million, and they can't seem time to report on this.
Starting point is 01:06:07 The Clintons from day one have gamed the system. And I told you guys this. I have a foundation, a charitable foundation named after my parents. And we, over the years, have given away millions and millions of dollars. I have never taken a cent from that foundation. The New York Times trying to hang me, investigated that foundation every which way. And they found it was clean and beneficial. Of course, they didn't print that, all right?
Starting point is 01:06:36 But we knew they were investigating because my attorneys were giving them all the documents they asked for. They wanted to tie that into that I was the worst person on earth. Now, Clinton Foundation has raised hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions. And that's provided the Clintons themselves with money, with, private jets with writing off pretty much everything they've ever done. They game the system. Oh, you're right. Who cares about that?
Starting point is 01:07:07 Does Jeff Sessions care about that? I don't think so. I haven't seen anybody in the Justice of Army caring about it. You know, if Trump hates Hillary so much, why doesn't he get on it? Right, but this isn't even the Clinton Foundation, which I agree with you, boy, there is so much smoke there that something's got to be on fire. To give the folks, to give your listeners, that these people game the system, whitewater. And it's not, you know, they game it, all right?
Starting point is 01:07:37 They look at it and they say, how can we use the system to enrich ourselves? So, yeah, it should be looked at it. But who's going to do it? Is Jeff Sessions going to do it? I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong. Let's talk about Ronnie Jackson. Ronnie Jackson was nominated to be the head of the VA. He was the president's doctor, not the crazy doctor, the doctor that looked over the president, and the last president.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Both presidents have spoken highly of this man. Obama was completely silent as they eviscerated this man's credibility. Thoughts? You know, that's his motorist operandi. He's not jumping in the fray. look, anybody attached to Trump, if Trump liked you, then the media is going to try to destroy you. I mean, that's part of the Me Too movement as well.
Starting point is 01:08:31 If you're on the side of Trump or perceived to even be fair to him, they're going to try to get you. So Ronnie, you know, I know what Ronnie did. He's an admiral. He served his country well, as you pointed out, three presidents. You know, he was W's physician, too. Love the guy. But apparently he had a few too many one night.
Starting point is 01:08:51 and that was it. Bang, they got him, and he's gone, and that's it for Ronnie. Kanye West. Any thoughts? I was in an elevator with him one time. Do you know that? No, I did not. Yeah, Madison Square Garden.
Starting point is 01:09:06 It was me, Kanye, and two of Kanye's seven-foot bodyguards. I could barely get in. Kanye had short pants on, and he's about five foot seven. These guys were really big. And we didn't really have a lot to talk about. I don't know if you've been following I don't know if you've been following what he's been saying on Twitter this week he likes Trump
Starting point is 01:09:31 you know he likes him so Kanye's got a new record and what better way to have everybody turn their attention to Kanye than to say I like Trump and then you know John Legend who's going for Ph.D. in political science I believe tweets tweets
Starting point is 01:09:49 Kanye I give you turn Trump, I love you, but you have to hate. I can't love you. That was John Lutcheon. It sounded just like him. Wow, that was very good. I thought you were playing a recording. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:10:07 So do you think that there's anything to be said, Dave Rubin, I was talking to Dave Rubin and Ben Shapiro this week, and they both seem to believe, and I fall into this category, that, you know, what he's done is he's breaking a cultural barrier. He's speaking to people that are not involved in the everyday back and forth, and all he's saying now is, don't we have a right to have a different opinion? Why? I'm just saying this in love. I like Hillary.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I like Trump. I don't like everything Trump does. I don't agree with everybody on everything. But don't we have a right to have a different point of view. I think that's... You don't have a right to have a different point of view. If the Hollywood elite say that somebody's bad, they have to be. bad or you don't work or you can't go to a restaurant or and we hate you. I mean, that's,
Starting point is 01:10:59 that's what's happened in this country. Come on. We all know it. So, you know, Kanye can say what he wants because he has tens of millions of dollars, but if Kanye were a character actor and was just trying to go for a few roles to keep his mortgage paid, he couldn't say what he wanted. And that's the truth. Bill O'Reilly, the no-spin zone continues. to get one plug before you dismiss me and go on to whatever else you do on this. Well, I'm going to dismiss you like a, yes. We announced the new killing book this week. It's killing the SS, the hunt for the worst war criminals in history.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Killing the SS, the hunt for the worst war criminals in history. Now, you can pre-ordered. I've already pre-ordered you and Stu copies. I've already done that because I know you want to read. You know, I don't have a single copy from you signed. I have quite an autograph collection. I'm stamping it. I'm doing everything.
Starting point is 01:11:57 This, what we found out about after World War II and these SS, I don't even know what the word is. They're so evil. Monsters. And how they escaped and who helped them and then how they ultimately got tracked down
Starting point is 01:12:12 is amazing. So anyway, we're on everybody go to Bill O'Reilly.com. Check that out. There's a little commentary by me. I always post, if you just came in late for the Beck, Stu O'Reilly Confab. I always post, and you do too, on the Blaze, our
Starting point is 01:12:26 conversation so people can hear the whole thing. I can go now. Well, I'm not done. I mean, was Hitler in Venezuela? Did he? Did he? No, but very big guys close to him.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Got away. And I'm not going to give it all away, but one of them, Martin Borman, it's unbelievable what happened. and the final chapter of this book I'm never talking about because it's so stunning that I don't want anybody to know until they read the book but the final chapter.
Starting point is 01:13:01 So you're like M. Knight, this is like an M. Knight book. M. Night Shyammer. I'm telling you back, you know me, I always lay it on a line. I know, I know. I know. Okay, thanks so much, Bill. Bill O'Reilly.com and every Friday, Bill O'Reilly appears here, and we just kind of run down the news of the week and get his opinion. but you can get it every day,
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Starting point is 01:15:41 together that said, I just witnessed a real exorcism. I would have made The Exorcist differently now. And he says it's more terrifying than The Exorcist. We'll talk to him next week. Also, Mr. Pat Gray is going to be joining the broadcast program coming up an hour. from now on most of this network, if you want to hear Pat Gray, he is back and we thank you
Starting point is 01:16:07 for his prayers on behalf of him as he was in kidney failure last week. He is back on the radio beginning today. Glenn, back. Mercury. Truth. So, how's this
Starting point is 01:16:40 for a headline that you might have missed along with the rest of America? The Hillary Clinton campaign effectively laundered $84 million during the 2016 election. Wait a minute. What? That's the allegation made in a lawsuit filed in D.C. federal court last week by a group called the Committee to Defend the President. Now, why is it a group of Trump supporters that have to do this? If you haven't heard of this, it's probably because last week's priority lawsuit was the one filed by Democrats against Trump
Starting point is 01:17:15 and the Trump campaign, WikiLeaks, and Russia. Now, to be fair, it is so darn hard to squeeze in the potential bombshell news about Hillary Clinton's campaign corruption with so much Comey Russia, Michael Cohen, and Stormy Daniels updates to cover. I mean, what am I going to do? There's only so much time, America. Now, basically, here's how campaign finance is supposed to work. You want to give a candidate some money. You can give them up for. to $2,700 to any candidate you want. Well, it better be the right one, or I'm going to unfollow you.
Starting point is 01:17:52 $10,000 to any state party committee. And during the 2016 election, 33,400 to the national party. Now, oftentimes, a donor will give one lump sum, let's say, $100,000. So if that person wrote a check for $100,000, which, oh man, I can't think of a dollar more well spent than that, let's say you wrote a $100,000 check to the Hillary Victory Fund, which was Clinton's joint fundraising committee. Now, under the campaign finance law, the Hillary Victory Fund would then have to distribute that money in the allowed amounts to the Hillary Clinton campaign, which would be $2,700,
Starting point is 01:18:35 and the DNC, $33,400, and the remaining $63,900. I'm just doing this off the top of my head, would be disperse. to the state's party committees. So no more than $10,000 to any one state committee. That's what's permitted by law. Well, here's a shocking news flash. Boop boop, boop, butoop, just off the wire. The Hillary Victory Fund apparently did not follow the rules.
Starting point is 01:19:03 We've got to get big money out of politics. Or just maybe live by the rules would be nice. Now, pick your jaw up off the floor, I know. especially if you're driving it, that jaw could fall on the accelerator and, oh, you could drive through a Denny's. The Hillary Victory Fund frequently received a big donation, like our $100,000 example, and would transfer, at least on paper, the correct amounts to the state committees. But then, the exact same amount was magically transferred back to the DNC, either on the same day or the next day. It's like magic, kids. Mary Poppins might have been working someplace at the DNC.
Starting point is 01:19:53 The DNC then contributed most of those funds to Hillary for America, which was Hillary's campaign committee. See how they're laundering the money? Kids and politicians will do the darndest things. The state committees often don't have records of having either received or sent funds in those amounts. Wait a minute. Now that's crazy, you crazy kids, and we would have got away with it if it wasn't for those crazy kids in their mystery van. Quoting from the lawsuit, quote, public statements from both the then-chairwoman of the DNC, Donna Brazil. Oh, now don't
Starting point is 01:20:35 tell me she's involved. She's always seems so credible and up front. And Hillary for America, chief financial officer, Gary Gensler, confirm Hillary for America controlled the DNC's finances, the strategy, and expenditures. Wait a minute. So they were both putting in and then having to ask themselves
Starting point is 01:20:58 to do something illegal? I find that hard to believe with the Clinton's involved. The funds raised through the Hillary Victory Fund ended up under the direction and control of Hillary for America. That's pretty weird. And that is also the illegal part.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Money going from state party committees back to the National Party Committee is commonplace. Both Republicans and Democrats do that. But the money at the DNC, then flowing directly to Hillary for America, is what we like to call against the law. Yeah, I know. Like there is any law anymore. For a year prior to the election day, the DNC also made at least 59 coordinated expenditures with the Clinton campaign, which campaign finance law treats as contributions to Hillary for America. Those expenditures totaled $22.8 million. Now, I want to point this out because not only
Starting point is 01:21:57 is it wrong and we need to clean up campaign finance, but the media is losing its mind over Michael Cohen's $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels and whether or not it qualifies as a campaign contribution. And that is a big deal. I want that investment. I want to know. It's $130,000. Is this an illegal contribution? It's kind of like, you know, when they put our good friend, Dinesh D'Souza, in prison for a $10,000 donation? I don't know. I think $84 million is worth at least a headline. Donna Brazill laid out much of this in a political magazine article last November, but the media yawned and went back to checking Trump's Twitter feed. According to the lawsuit, these allegations are built entirely on the FEC's reports filed by the Hillary Victory Fund, the DNC, the state Democratic parties. Political Magazine also reported on this scheme way back in June of 2016. But the mainstream
Starting point is 01:23:05 media didn't bat an eyelid because they were full-on Trump panic mode at that time. Even Bernie Sanders accused the Clinton campaign of money laundering prior to the DNC convention. So the current lawsuit is not just another partisan attack. It's just left up to the people who support the president to say, hey, is anyone going to pay attention to this? So what does all this mean? Well, it means more than just the mainstream media is barking up the wrong tree. It also means, for some strange reason,
Starting point is 01:23:41 they don't care when it happens to the people on their side. They haven't learned a damn thing. And this is why the media will soon be out in the parking lot, kicking rocks, asking themselves, how did my empire fall apart? If there's one good thing that the Clintons are really experts at, well, you'd have to redefine good, but it's manipulating the flow of millions of dollars into their own pockets or their own organizations or for their own benefit.
Starting point is 01:24:12 They're masters at it. actually the masterful part is their amazing ability to avoid ever ever being held accountable it's friday april 27 you're listening to the glenbeck program we have rabbi lappin with us the one the only rabbi lapin then your speech last night went down so very well thank you sir thank you We were gathered to celebrate Israel's 70th birthday. And I was afraid, Rabbi Lappin, that, you know, I'm never one to bring to a birthday party. You know, I'm not the life of the party. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Yeah. And so, you know, I had to be, the speech was at our studios, and I was supposed to be there last night, but I've been, I'm being held captive here in Los Angeles. And so I didn't read the audience because I couldn't see them or hear them. But I'm glad that nobody was, you know, running for the doors after my speech. No, not at all. It really made the evening. Rabbi, before we get into some other things, and I want to talk about your speech, because I learned so much history yesterday, as I always do from you,
Starting point is 01:25:41 can we talk a little bit about the content of what I spoke about last night? about the 12th, the mom, and about what Iran is doing in surrounding Israel and how this looks like it's all kind of culminating around the anniversary and President Trump's visit of May 14th? Yeah. Are you, are people really aware of what Iran truly believes and what their motivation is for all of this? Well, you know, going back, a long time back, there was a guy called Pat Buchanan.
Starting point is 01:26:27 I'm sure you remember. Yeah. And Pat Buchanan wrote a piece. I think it was published in the American conservative back then. But basically what he said was in the aftermath of 9-11, he pointed out that what he called neo-conservatives, which many people felt was a, code word for Jewish conservatives were pushing President George W. Bush nation built in the Middle East, which was
Starting point is 01:27:00 sort of part of the dream of it. Anyway, it caused a tremendous row and many people felt that because many of the people like Paul Wolfowitz and Pearl and many of those people who had the presidents here were part of what Pat Buchanan called the sort of neocon crowd, people who read commentary magazine and the weekly standard, et cetera, et cetera. And at any rate, the fact is that at the end of the day, when we all look back whether the and money in Iraq and so on, were they really worth it for America?
Starting point is 01:27:55 And the time I said that trying to turn a suburb of, or Damascus, of Kansas City, is just just not the other way out. And since the roundings of a suburb in Dallas or Kansas City or Charlotte are the result of hundreds of years of American culture built on hundreds of other years of British culture. And so the notion, anyway, done by that period, because to speak about the very real threats posed by Iran, which you have been one of the few voices doing eloquently. and a lot of people is, oh, you know what, we don't need any more wars in the Middle East. George, the fact is they're completely different. In my personal view, I do think that much of what George Bush spent and expended in blood and money was a waste because on 9-11.
Starting point is 01:29:29 And we may have lost the opportunity to now make a strong case for real true evil. that is, and I don't use that word. Yes, yes. I don't use the word evil lightly, but I do believe they are in an end times game, those who believe in the 12th of mom, and they are talking about it right now. Their leadership in the Republican Guard
Starting point is 01:30:02 are talking about the return of the 12th the mom and the chaos that they are causing, and they are orchestrating now the Palestinians on the Gaza border of Israel, and that's only going to get worse, especially when the president opens up the new embassy there in Jerusalem. And God bless him for that, my goodness. And also for pardoning school Libby, that took some guts. That's something George W. Bush should have done,
Starting point is 01:30:38 didn't. Rabbi, last night you gave a speech, and you talked about why Israel or why Jerusalem is so important, or what it was built on. And you gave a little bit of history of the Middle East and Yemen and Somalia. I had never heard any of this before. Start quickly with just the, is it already 20 after? Oh, my gosh. Hang on. Yeah, let me take a quick break, and then we'll come back.
Starting point is 01:31:07 You have to tell this story. I've never heard this history, and it really puts things into perspective. We'll do that here in a second. I thought my clock was wrong. All right, let me tell you about our sponsor this F-hour. If you want your home sold on time and for the most amount of money, right now is the time to sell your house. If you're thinking about it, just contact real estate agents.
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Starting point is 01:32:31 That's real estate agents. I trust. com. Glenn Beck, Mercury. Glenn Beck. You spend any time reading or listening to Rabbi Daniel Lapin, and I guarantee you you will learn more from him than anybody else, usually anybody else that you've ever met. Rabbi Daniel Lapin.com. Rabbi Daniel Lapin.com. Rabbi, tell me quickly about the reason Israel is different and how it has affected the Middle East.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Yeah, sure. Although, not just sound sick of things. or anything, but I'm always astounded by you. 99 out of 100 celebrities who had to do their speech remote by satellite as you did last night, you'd have done your speech and then taken off in any
Starting point is 01:33:33 event that you were in a time zone where it was inconvenient and I can't believe in the last few minutes, I'm trying to wrap myself around the idea that you stayed online and heard my speech coming off before. Rabbi, I would not
Starting point is 01:33:49 not miss your speech. I mean what I just said. I've learned more from you than I've learned from most people. I think you are one of the brightest, most well-spoken history teachers and theology teachers I have ever, I've ever encountered. Well, thank you very much indeed, but I'm astounded that you stayed online to listen to what went on. But okay, to answer your question, yeah. I pointed out that, that Well, I saw it off speaking about Mombasa, which is a city I used to know on the east coast of Africa, from which trading ships 3,000 years ago used to travel up the east coast of Africa, and then they would turn into the Red Sea and then go up to the southern tip of Israel, which is now a lot.
Starting point is 01:34:42 And there were copper mines there, but they were all kinds of, basically Israel was the center of the world in those days. I mean, everybody, although there were obviously civilizations elsewhere, Israel was where it's at. And I pointed out that ships that would go up, I mean, so far spread was Israeli culture, that to this day, Somalia and Yemen, which are on either side of the straits as you enter the Red Sea, were named by people after the Hebrew words for left and right. As you're heading up north, Somalia is on the left, and the Hebrew word for left is Somal, and Yemen is on the right. and Yemen is on the right, and of course the Hebrew word for right is Yemen. So, I mean, think of that, and the patriarchy continues. You're naming countries, whole lands, I had no idea. That's left, that's right.
Starting point is 01:35:34 In Hebrew. Yeah, right. Do they know that? Look, I mean, Somalia has raised a barbaric piracy to obscene new levels. So I'm not sure they're spending an awful lot of time delving into the demographics and study of their language and culture. But, I mean, yeah, it's known by people who know these things. And then I pointed out that, you know, I listed in a number of cities after, Speaking of Mombasa, I said there's, you know, there's Naples, there's Oslo, there's Paris,
Starting point is 01:36:15 there's Quebec City, there's Rome, there's Stockholm, there's Tokyo. And I was sort of playing around with, you know, choosing an alphabetical list of cities. But the main point was that all these cities are in order. And it's very hard to think of a significant city that's more than 200 years old. There wasn't built on water. Had to be. The city that has shaped the destiny of Western civilization for never mind 200 years, but 2000 years is Jerusalem, which is almost unique in not on the water at all.
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Starting point is 01:38:13 Love her. Sam Power is, what's his name? What's her husband? Cass Sunstein's wife. She was also the one who brought us the, you know, really good Libyan and Syria Council. Yeah, the former U.S. ambassador as well. Yeah. To the U.N.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Yeah, she was wonderful. She was really wonderful. Did you see that Nikki Haley is now the most popular politician in America? She's had a great run here. She's had a great run. She is. She's, she's, there have been three, there have been, with her now, three, I think, outrageously great. UN ambassadors in my lifetime.
Starting point is 01:38:55 Gene Kurt Patrick, John Bolton, and now Nikki Haley. You forgot Sam Power, though, of course. Obviously, you meant to include her in this group. No, I really didn't forget. But here she is on Barack Obama's redline. In retrospect, I wish we hadn't gone to Congress
Starting point is 01:39:15 with the, in the redline moment when we had already committed to using force. You know, I think that was actually a really pivotal moment where we knew prior to that point that many of Obama's critics were not at the level. You know, that things they were for on a Monday, if Obama was for them on a Tuesday, they were then against them on a Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Like, we knew that. And yet, that decision to go to Congress was made, and a lot of people don't believe this, but in good faith in believing that given the number of people who, in response to this monstrous attack on 1,500 people, including several hundred kids, so many people have come out kind of calling for the president to act, you know, criticizing him for being feckless. And then the president turned around and said, okay, here, this is what I want to do. Now we can do this together. And they basically, you know, kind of, you know, ran for the exits.
Starting point is 01:40:17 she is right on that last part I mean you should go to Congress with these things yeah she is but her surprise her surprise that Congress would be spineless is is hard to believe
Starting point is 01:40:32 and she's an educated woman yeah she should have known you know I think this happens though at times I think the same thing kind of happened with Trump and Comey you know at the time everyone was calling for his firing you know the left and the right both didn't like him and they were all called.
Starting point is 01:40:49 The left was on the front lines for calling for him to be fired. And as soon as he fired him, I think they actually Trump fired Comey with the idea that generally speaking, it would be well received because so many people were out there saying he should be fired. And so Trump fires him and then they immediately turn their opinion around to the exact opposite and then started criticizing him for it, which at some level they perhaps should have seen that coming. but I think that does happen with administrations.
Starting point is 01:41:20 They may have gone into the Syria thing thinking they could get that through Congress and they didn't. But when you don't, you have to understand, A, there's consequences to that. And B, you don't just go do it anyway. And I think every president seems to have forgotten that lesson. Let's see. I've got more audio, but there's also... I have an important story. I do too.
Starting point is 01:41:41 I'll give you mine real quick. Sure. Then you can go. Okay. Florida police have made a traffic stop. they stopped. There were two passengers in the car. They were swerving in the roadway.
Starting point is 01:41:54 They were stopped by Fort Pierce police. As they approached the vehicle, they smelled marijuana. Well, they said, step out of the car and they searched the car. And they found cocaine and marijuana in separate bags inside of a purse that one of the women had on their lap. The police said, you know, what about the cocaine? and the she said quote I don't know anything about any cocaine but it is a windy day officer I believe it must have flown through the window and into my purse
Starting point is 01:42:26 apparently the police didn't buy that and she's in jail today so the weather is her fault no the weather is her fault she can now control the wind no I don't think that's no I don't think that's exactly what happened there I like this story, Glenn, because this is something I think you and I can unite on. There's a Texas town that is holding a
Starting point is 01:42:53 5K. Towns do this all the time. You know, they have these little 5Ks, you go run at them, you know, you have a it's like camaraderie of your community, maybe you have a snack afterwards and, you know, refreshments. It's a nice way I think towns can build
Starting point is 01:43:08 you know, some community spirit and some camaraderie. No, it is nothing but a a communist or European scheme to get us all to adopt the metric system. That is the primary reason I don't run in 5Ks. Just I want you to know. Oh, really? Because I thought the reason might be, you know, you'd have to run 5K.
Starting point is 01:43:32 No, I said that it was the primary reason. I refuse to adopt the metric system. That's my primary reason. My second is I am in such a highly tuned physical shape. that I think 5K is a little too much. Maybe a little bit. A little bit. Because I think these events are actually kind of fun,
Starting point is 01:43:54 with the exception of all that running. You know, my wife runs them a lot, and I have been able to partake in these events, which is just, it winds up just being just the refreshments. You know, you're kind of out and you have a bunch of refreshments, which I like it. But they're actually solving this a little bit in Texas. Instead of a 5K, they're having a 0.5K.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Oh, wait a minute, I'm interested. Yes. The running, the entire distance of the race is 1,640 feet. That's fantastic. I love it. Now, what you will get when you're there is, of course, beer. You will get a pint at the start of the race, which is a good. Do you have somebody just jam it into your hand halfway through the race, too?
Starting point is 01:44:39 It feels like it's like one of those marathon people who get it from. I like that. And then also, you will get a protect. 10.5K sticker to put on your windshield. Oh, I want one. I want one of those. Badly. Oh, I want, I've got to have it.
Starting point is 01:44:53 I must have the 0.5K. Oh, I hate those people that have those on their... I want one. I need a 0.5K. I would even run a 0.10K. I do it. Which is smaller than a... Shh, shh. I'm with you.
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Starting point is 01:46:40 Glenn Beck, Mercury. Glenn Beck. I had a really fascinating conversation with Dave. Rubin the other day here in Los Angeles. And I asked him, you know, how did the change happen? Because he's a guy who said, I used to be progressive. A year ago, he proudly proclaimed himself as progressive. Now not so much. I asked him, did you know what the word progressive really meant then? I thought they were the good guys. That was kind of the extent of it. Like, things are going to be better because they, they, they say nice things for people.
Starting point is 01:47:33 I wish I could give you a better answer to that. Yeah, no, that's fine. I think that's where most people are until they find themselves in a point to where the pain one way or another of what they're doing. I think we're fortunate because we have to have an opinion. And most people don't. And so they just kind of go along. But because we have to have an opinion, hopefully we look at everything we say at the end of the day and go, was that really right? Yeah. And the real beauty of that, of course, is that the more you do it, and the more years that go by, the rubber keeps meeting the road in different ways. So suddenly you go, wait a minute, wait a minute, I thought this about this, but if I want to
Starting point is 01:48:09 really be intellectually consistent, I'm going to have to reevaluate that. And that's, and that's what I find that. I took the same thing. I realized I didn't know anything on my own. I didn't know anything on my own. Took everything out and said, I don't believe in anything. I am not pro or against anything. started reading, started really doing my own homework, and then I put it in, I go, okay, I got it.
Starting point is 01:48:36 And then when I put another thing in that I thought I believed, if they were in conflict, wait a minute, one of these is wrong. You know what I mean? And how great to get in there and do that. Your life becomes, I mean, it's five years at least of total hell. You know, the truth will set you free. About three and a half in right now, okay. Truth will set you free, but it'll make you miserable first. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:00 But you then, once it all pulls into place, you have an easy time answering new questions. Yeah. Because you're like, oh, well, okay, well, it fits. And you just recognize it. Yeah. What's nice also, real quick, is that you will find that you will be a better person. Yes. I am a better person now.
Starting point is 01:49:22 I'm not a perfect person. And I still sometimes fall into some old traps and have old habits and all of that. But if you really start understanding this stuff and you understand why you think the way you do, you will try your damn hardest. Yeah. And we're all flawed. But you will try your damn hardest not to do those things. So I think as I sit here at the moment, I'm the best person that I've been. I hopefully will be a much better person.
Starting point is 01:49:43 I really do or a more refined person or whatever that is. But I'm trying. I can tell you I've never tried harder in my life to live up to the things that I'm talking about. It's great. Yeah. No, it's really cool. It's great. So have you gotten to a place to where there's a book that I read years ago called Blackmailed by History?
Starting point is 01:50:07 And it was about McCarthy. I thought, you know, I got it. McCarthy, bad guy, the whole blacklisting thing. Started reading it. And it's all very well footnoted. And I started reading it and I closed it because I thought, if I go any further in this book, if I'm going to be intellectually honest, it's going to change my opinion on all of these things. Do I want to even take that on at this point?
Starting point is 01:50:37 And I decided I'm going to call into my research on the author first, and then I want to call him, and I want to poke holes in him to see if he's a sound individual before I finish the book. I finished the book. And it changed. It changed a lot of what I believe. I believed in that, oh, America, and the government is, all that crap, you know what I mean? And have you gotten to that place yet? Have you gotten to a place to where you thought, I don't know if I'm ready to look at that yet?
Starting point is 01:51:10 I don't know if I, have you had any of those? I don't know that I've gotten to those where it's that I'm afraid to look because I've been looking and I have difficult conversations on my show every week. And so, for example, I think one that we differ on is I am, I describe myself as begrudgingly pro-choice. I think it's a horrible decision that a woman would have to make. I was there. I know, I know, yeah. I was pro-choice. I get it, believe me.
Starting point is 01:51:34 And then begrudgingly pro-choice. Believe me, all my conservative friends say this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was there. I was there. So now knowing that I respect you guys and I know and that you guys generally have clean way of thinking and all that, I have to see that. That thing that you caused you to close the book, I have to see that. And, you know, when I had Ben Shapiro on my show,
Starting point is 01:51:51 and he was making the pro-life argument, and I was making the pro-choice argument. And my argument is nuanced, and I talk about 20 weeks because the fetus can then feel pain. But I acknowledge, at the same time, I'm acknowledging if you're saying it's a life at 20, it's obviously a life at 18.
Starting point is 01:52:05 I get the inconsistencies there. And my deference still goes to the woman who's here and now. But we can do this again, and I know we will for sure. Look, I am the one place that I know I'm inconsistent on is abortion. Because I may,
Starting point is 01:52:21 the exception for rape and incest and I shouldn't if I were going to be consistent. Which show, I mean, but I can't, I just, and you know, I just can't do it. Right. But even the fact that you're acknowledging that shows that if you sat down here with the clearest pro-life thinker, they could probably get you there because you're already acknowledging the inconsistency. Now that little inconsistency, you're, your, your, your, what you believe as your personal humanity may override that logical inconsistency. But we all live in that place. And that's why the media is so insane right now, where they say if you're pro-life, you hate women and if you're pro-choice, you hate children. And it's like, no, you're all liars and frauds. What is real is what is in your mind. And if a believer in higher power, how you operate within that. What is frustrating to me, I can sit down with anybody, as long as they're honest. And they can say what you just did.
Starting point is 01:53:19 Look, I know it's inconsistent. And I just said, I know it's inconsistent. We just conceded something. Correct. Correct. And that's a good, healthy place. That is a country I can live in. Where I can't live is when somebody says, I'm pro-choice all the way to the end.
Starting point is 01:53:37 Well, isn't that a child that is halfway through? Yeah. I mean, even partial birth abortion. You know it's a child. You have to abort in the birth canal because, because the moment it comes out, it's illegal, it's murder. Come on. And, you know, where you will have politicians who will say, you know, I won't answer the question if my children were life, you know, and children before they were, but come on. But, Glenn, think about what we just did
Starting point is 01:54:06 right here in these three minutes, and this simply does not happen. We just agreed to disagree. We both admitted inconsistencies in our own logic. This simply does not happen on the left. And if it does, please, anyone that's watching this, send me the people, and I will invite them. And most likely I have invited them. Because I invite these people all the time. But what I want, I'm not just going to have any crackpot that's just screaming all day long. What I want is people that truly have a consistent set of views, even if those are completely antithetical to everything else that I mean. Glenn, back.
Starting point is 01:54:53 Mercury.

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