The Glenn Beck Program - So Wanting This To Be True? | Guest: John Ziegler | 2/18/19
Episode Date: February 18, 2019Hour 1 The Wolf Who Cried MAGA?...Jesse Smollett attack was All a Hoax...Hollywood is actively stirring up hatred...a cherry on a racist salad?...the List of MAGA hate Hoaxes grows?...the trophies f...or all culture has arrived?...the Make It Up Media? Hour 2 John Ziegler called BS weeks ago?...Jussie Smollett new famous Hoaxer...so poorly done it couldn't be hoax?...Will he get out of this?...Police played Possum from the beginning...'the two blobs'...vs. Kavanaugh accuser?...People today 'want to be' a victim...No Shame in Victimhood? Hour 3 Weiner freed?...oh and Bill Cosby is having an 'amazing experience' in prison?...Racist Flashback: 'Soul Man' the Movie...Stu reads the New York Times movie review from the 1986 movie? ...Warning: Your Small dog may blow away? ...Collective Munchhausen with Gad Saad?...at TheBlazeTV.com ...Not there Nancy? Happy Thanksgiving?...Someone get Nancy a brain scan? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Oh, Jesse.
Oh, Jesse, you're so fine.
You really blow my mind or something like that.
Oh, Jesse.
Oh, Jesse.
You know, I don't know if I'm more shocked at the fact that someone had the balls to do this.
Or the fact that media still has no idea, no idea how these things just happen.
There's even an editorial today from The Washington Post where the individual says,
I so want this to be true.
You want this to be true?
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So here it is.
This is the way the media works now.
They find a story that confirms their bias, confirms their narrative,
and then they run it constantly, relentlessly.
Then when the real story comes out, they minimize the exposure.
of the correction and then they repeat.
Look at the major stories that have broken recently that have been so very wrong,
that have occupied so much of our time.
Kavanaugh.
Was that true?
Nope.
Turns out, nope.
Then you had the Covington story.
Was that true?
Nope.
Look at how they corrected both of those.
Just barely.
Just barely.
And I say, well, both of them, would you even say barely still?
Because they were still saying they were guilty of something.
Yeah, I mean, certainly haven't corrected the Kavanaugh thing.
No.
And they just say that it was, I mean, I think they would still say that one's true.
Well, I mean, do you remember the FBI stories that came out afterwards and what the FBI had uncovered that it was bogus?
that the people that were, you can't, you don't know for sure because, you know, we're still going off of people's memories.
But it was her beach friends that kind of helped shape this story.
Yeah, I mean, I think all of these stories are stories that they would still hang on to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
So they're not really corrected.
They're not really corrected.
Let me give you the knee-jerk reactions that the media had on this Jesse Smollett hoax.
This is from Insider Edition, CNN, e-news, headline news, CNBC, TMZ, just to name a few.
Listen.
Beaten with a news around his neck and hospitalized.
Empire star Jesse Smollett was the victim of a vicious, racist, and homophobic attack.
His attackers hurled racial and homophobic slurs.
Two people yelled racist and homophobic slurs.
Racial and homophobic slurs.
Not only homophobia, we're talking about racism.
We're talking about hate with steroids.
They are looking for two suspects who were apparently wearing Make America Great Again hats.
The offenders uttered, this is MAGA country.
The hate crime went down early this morning in Chicago.
Officials are investigating the alleged assault as a hate crime.
And now police say they're investigating this is a possible hate crime.
Anyone attacked in a hate crime like this is an outrage.
This is stomach-turning, mind-boggling information.
It's out of control.
It is out of control, isn't it?
Isn't it out of control?
Now, these are just the reactions on TV.
It just as bad, if not worse, in some cases, in print and online.
I'll give you one example.
You know the situation is bad when TMZ is connecting the dots and seeing through a guy's story.
It's TMZ.
Listen to this.
The sources say there were red flags from the get-go.
Cops were extremely suspicious when Jussie took them out.
to the area where they said he was attack and pointed to an obscure camera saying how happy that the
attack was that the attack was on video well it turns out the camera was pointing in the wrong direction
cops thought it was weird he knew the location of that camera and then there's this we're told
investigators didn't believe the two alleged attackers screamed this is maga country because not
a single Trump supporter watches Empire, end quote.
No, I'm sure there is one.
Somewhere.
Maybe.
Probably not.
Here's the man himself in an interview just days after the alleged beating.
I'm sorry, the alleged modern day lynching.
Here he is in an interview with ABC News complaining about people making stuff up.
That I had said that they were wearing MAGA hats.
I never said that.
I didn't need to ask.
anything like that they called me a they called me they called me there's no
which way you cut it I don't need some maga have as the cherry on top of some
racist Sunday I've heard that it was a date gone bad which I so resent in that
narrative I'm not gonna go out and get a tuna sandwich at a salad to meet
somebody that's ridiculous and it's offensive
yes, there's grinder, yes, there's
jacked, yes, there's all of these things,
which I have not been on in years.
I can admit that I was on that back of the day.
I was single.
You know what I'm saying?
But I haven't
not been on that in years.
But aside from that,
it's offensive.
And I absolutely resent
that narrative.
Because it's bull.
It's bull.
It's bull.
And he knows Bull, apparently.
Now, he's
starts out. Play the first 10 seconds of that for me again, please.
That I had said that they were wearing MAGA hats. I never said that. I didn't need to
add anything like that. Stop. Huh. Here's a story from USA Today. The headline, Empire Star
Jesse Smollett, attackers yelled, this is MAGA country during the beating. Chicago Police, blah,
blah, blah. You get down to about eight paragraphs down, and it says, Sergeant Cindy Giera.
confirmed to USA today that Smoliet said in a follow-up interview the next day that his alleged tackers yelled,
this is MAGA country.
So apparently there was some confusion on whether or not he said it.
Now, he seems to be confused yet.
And the Chicago police said, no, no, no, he didn't say that.
Then USA Today called and said, could you check on that?
they checked on it said oh yep you know what the next day he did say that so i guess he does need a
little cherry on a racist sunday the problem is is he's the racist let me give you let me give
you a story from let me give you two uh stories from the uh the press just this weekend
there is a story from the Washington Post where the writer now this is an editorial writer
a writer from the Washington Post an editor said she really needs this to be true she needs
this to be true what do you mean you need this to be true I want this to be true I need this to be true I need it
to be true. Does anybody remember after 9-11 when we started having copycats? Remember when we started
getting all kinds of powder sent to us? And we were hoping, hoping, praying that this was not
an American copycat, that this was somebody that was doing this, that we wanted to trust each other.
Do we remember that feeling? Maybe it was just me who wanted that, but I don't think so.
You want to live in a country where this is true?
I want to live in a country where this is not true.
Now, she went on to say, because just think of the damage that will be done.
Which brings me to the second story, this one from the New York Times.
Republicans are already demonizing Democrats as socialist and baby killers.
Now, this isn't related to the Smollett case, but yet it is.
we're we don't believe the Smollett case so apparently we just all group all of it together
we just we don't believe this guy so we're not going to believe any racism exists well that is a
danger of crying wolf however i don't think that's who the american people are and look at how
the new york times story this not an editorial this is a story republicans are already demonizing
Democrats as socialist and baby killers.
Well, I got news for you.
If the baby is born and then you kill it, what else would you be called?
If you believe capitalism is a thing of the past and you believe that the government can run things better, that's a socialist.
What else would you be called?
Jesse Smollett
wanted so badly to believe
that Americans were just homophobic racists
that he had to hire two Kenyans
to perpetrate this hoax on us.
I guess there are jobs that Americans still won't do.
Now, I don't know how
he could have possibly thought that,
One of them was named Cletus because they don't look like a Cletus to me.
He orchestrated this.
I want to take a break and come back with just a list of all of the stories where people have been orchestrating these things.
Because that's exactly what's happening.
And the press doesn't get it.
And it gets worse and worse and worse.
and if the press doesn't wake up, we're screwed.
We're screwed.
How's this going to fix any?
How is this going to be fixed?
How are we going to come together?
If the press doesn't see their involvement.
But again, they don't want to see their involvement.
Again, it's just confirmation bias.
Others are doing this.
We're not involved at all.
Yes, you are.
I'll give you the list of,
just the things that are directly correlated with this.
Donald Trump is to blame because this racist thing happened,
and it turned out to be a hoax.
We'll do that when we come back.
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Wait till you see the Yale newspaper.
The Yale newspaper is published a guide to, quote,
destroying white boys.
Finally.
Finally, it's being done.
And I got a story from
Stelter, who's got a very
brilliant thing to say today.
Okay.
Cyberstalking,
making hoax bomb threats.
Ann Arbor woman
reported a hate crime.
She was suffering
from deprecating.
and she said that she had been prompted.
She had been attacked and she told the,
I don't know why they picked on me.
She said maybe it was a safety pin that she was wearing.
What does a safety pin represent?
Do you have any idea?
Okay, well, somebody out there apparently knew what a safety pin meant and didn't like that.
And so it's a hate crime.
Well, it turns out, no, nope, she was just crying.
crazy. She had made a superficial scratch on her face, and she was embarrassed about it. And so she said a
stranger had done it to her while she was walking. And her friend said, you should report it to the
police. And I made a big mistake by doing that. Yep. Kansas State, second time in two years,
racist slurs at Kansas State was a hoax. Officers received a report of a
note using a racial slur posted on a door in an apartment complex.
Upon questioning, the person who reported the incident admitted to creating and posting
the note to their own door.
The matter will be addressed, they said.
But this was the one that had the note, beware and words live here.
Remember that story?
Yeah, that was a hoax.
How about this one?
Villanova.
Villanova had a report of a black female student allegedly knocked down by young white males yelling Trump, Trump, Trump.
But the student doesn't want to pursue the matter, but wanted to make sure that it's hard to move forward.
It's hard to move forward.
Well, yeah, and it was hard for the university to move forward because it was fake.
so they couldn't find anybody that had done that.
New Jersey man arrested 58 years old.
He was arrested in connection with racist and politically charged messages
that appeared spray painted on a property in South Philadelphia
on the day after the Trump election.
He was arrested because he wrote Trump rules
and Trump rules black
B words
and the letter T
I guess that's just I have no
idea
could have been a tea party
could have been
there's a lot of things that could be fun
yeah yeah
test low T
yeah
a low testosterone issue
a report of a racist note
on a black a student's windshield
this happened in Minnesota
a racist threat against
a St. Olaf student that
touched off campus-wide protest and forced the college to cancel classes earlier this month was a fake, according to this story.
A threat, anonymous, typewritten note was fabricated.
It was a strategy to draw attention to concerns about the campus climate.
It was not a genuine threat.
The note was tucked into the windshield of a black student's car.
and it apparently, you know, well, they were just trying to show that, you know, this is something good has got to come out of such a bad thing, but it was full of racial epitets.
And, and of course, Trump.
Woman told police she was driving home when 14s confronted her, yelled Trump 2016, and told her she didn't belong here to go home.
the woman who told the police she had a hateful note on her car after a group of teens did this to her
said uh yeah okay i made the entire story up muslim woman
she reported a hate crime on the subway 18 year old muslim woman claimed that three men attacked her
on a manhattan subway she they tried to pull off her hijab and uh turned out to be completely fake
she was making that up.
Long Island Man,
Nassau Community College
said he couldn't sleep at night
because somebody had drawn swastikas
several different times
at various different locations on the campus.
Three swastikas were found inside of a man's bathroom
and he couldn't sleep at night.
I don't know how people sleep at night
when they're the ones who do it.
Police found out he was the perpetrator.
I'm not even a third of the way through these stories that have come out in the last year.
And the Washington Post has the guts to say that we're going to use this one
to say that people are making things up.
No.
No, do you not yet get it?
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Well, Indiana Church vandalized with slurs made up.
Arrest made after anti-Semitic graffiti cancels a political event at a Brooklyn synagogue.
Classes were even canceled for that.
It was totally made up.
Black church fire?
Hate crime.
Yeah, it was a black parishioner that started it.
Uh, UL student, uh, said,
Somebody stole my hijab.
Well, they were probably short if they're like,
ah, mine's in the laundry.
What do I do?
Made up.
Made up.
This is fake news.
This is fake news.
And let me give you, before we bring Pat in,
let me give you this from Brian Stelter.
He said, oh, Friday,
I went to see the show Network on Broadway.
Of course they're playing network now.
Of course they're doing that.
Well, one of the monologues by Brian Crancy,
Since character Howard Beale rang in my ears all weekend long, he said, and I quote,
here is the truth, the real truth, the thing we must be most afraid of.
It's the destructive power of absolute beliefs that we can know anything conclusively,
absolutely, whether we're compelled to it by anger, fear, righteousness, injustice, indignation.
As soon as you have ossified in that belief, as soon as you start believing in the absolute,
you stop believing in human beings as mad and tragic as they are in all of their complexity,
their otherness, their intractable reality.
The only commitment any of us can have is to other people.
Wow.
And it's not like you or anybody.
It's beautiful.
Anyone at CNN have an ossified belief of what Trump is, what Trump supporters are, what white men are, what America is.
No, none of that, none of that.
Welcome to the program, Mr. Pat Gray.
Thank you.
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Man, that's Chicago.
That is Chicago.
It is.
It is.
And these two white, black Nigerian guys.
They were very white for black men.
Yeah.
And let me tell you something.
I think Nigeria, isn't that the country where deliverance took place?
So it doesn't surprise me at all that they would act this way.
These, you don't come around these parts, son.
There has to be a spittoon.
I believe that corner in Chicago is where all the spittoons are.
They call it Spatoon Alley.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah.
We took time out from our moonshine running to beat the crap out of you, Mr. Homosexual.
Bing, Bing.
And are we ever going to hear?
Are we ever going to hear the apologies from, I don't know,
the Nancy Pelosi's and Cory Bookers in the world who jumped to their conclusions?
You know what?
I don't want an apology.
I don't want an apology.
I really don't.
An acknowledgement?
An acknowledgement.
Yes.
And what I really want is the press to learn from their mistakes,
but they're not mistakes.
That's the problem.
We can't get so wound up that I want an apology for their mistake.
It isn't a mistake.
This is what they've been ossified in their belief.
You played the reaction, the media reaction from all the reporters from MSNBC and CNN.
And I think to me the worst is Al Sharpton because you talk about not learning a lesson.
He doesn't learn.
I mean, Tijuana Brawley.
It's that you're making my point.
You're making my point.
Yeah, they're not going to.
He is not interested in the truth.
They don't care.
He is looking for power.
manipulation, any story that helps him further his voice, he does.
Anything that helps further his point of view.
Even if it turns out to be false, it doesn't matter.
So he's not making a mistake.
And I contend the press is not making a mistake.
Yeah.
I mean, look, a mistake is doing what maybe we did.
I didn't tweet about this story, but I did come out and say,
I think I said if this story is true, this is horrible.
Yes.
And that's the way you deal with it.
If this story is true, it's horrible.
And then you wait to see if the story is true.
But what they do is they drop all alleges and they just, even if they say the word, they don't really mean it.
Because then they'll go on and on and on and on about what horrible racist white culture this is and how bad.
Donald Trump is, to the point to where they are now saying, well, this isn't true, but this is
going on.
That's essentially what Cory Booker said.
I'm going to withhold my judgment until the facts come out.
Why didn't you do that in the first place?
And then he proceeded to say, but we do know in America that these kinds of crimes are on
the rise.
The fake ones.
Yeah, they're right.
They are.
They are.
Because the real ones are not.
No.
That's true.
And this is what you would expect, right?
out of a country and a society that's been crafted to give gold medals to whoever's the
most victimized.
That is what we are now doing this like intersectionality Olympics thing all the time.
And so of course people are incentivized to get there.
We are praising people who have been victims more than really any other part of our culture.
Success now is something that's bad.
If you achieve personal success, you're you need to get taxed at 90% and you're an evil
evil millionaire or billionaire.
On the other side of that, if you're a victim,
there's nothing but praise for you everywhere.
So there's no surprise that all these people are chasing that feeling.
This is a summary of moral sentiments by Adam Smith.
Adam Smith said, here's how capitalism works in wealth of nations.
This is what the free market is.
But in the preceding book, book one in this study of capitalism is the moral sentiment.
and it says the free market will give you whatever the people want.
So the people really have to guard themselves.
They have to be rulers of themselves and of their passions and their desires.
Well, our passion and desire right now apparently is, well, we just want to hate white people.
We just want to hate white people.
We want to hate Donald Trump.
And so that's what the market is buying.
There is no market for, hey, let's be good.
to each other. Let's let's let's not do this. We're better than this. There is no real market for that.
A great example, BBC. BBC did a documentary and it was on the rise of hate crimes in Poland,
if I'm not mistake. Now it's a documentary. Came out completely bogus. They just made it all up.
These documentary workers sold the BBC a documentary completely made up. Wow. Okay. Wow.
Why is that?
Because people want to work and unscrupulous people who are like, okay, well, what are they buying?
Because I've sat in these meetings before.
I've been in meetings with Netflix and Amazon and everybody else.
And I know that the agents will say prior to that we have, you know, you have specific agents just for Amazon, just for Netflix.
And their job is to tell the agency this is what they're buying right now.
This is what's hot for them.
They want stories like this.
They want shows like this.
And so you don't get a meeting with them unless you're pitching something that they're buying.
So if you're out there and you're like, okay, what will Netflix buy?
What will Amazon buy?
This group, I'm sure.
What will the BBC buy?
Well, they're really high on documentaries about hate crime right now.
Great.
We'll do one on Poland and how hate crimes because you got to know Polish hate crimes.
then you get in there, you find out that that's not the truth.
Well, you've sold it.
You're working on their dime.
Make it up.
That's the way this happens.
It's the free market.
And we are people that don't have moral sentiments anymore.
We want that story in the Washington Post where the editor wrote today,
I want to believe this story.
Why?
Why?
Why?
Why?
Yeah, I know.
She's honest.
She wants to believe this story.
And you know CNN did, MSNBC did.
NBC did.
They all wanted to believe the story.
They wanted it to be true.
Because it proves to them some moral larger truth.
Yeah.
About example.
Yes.
Yeah.
And they know that it does exist.
It just doesn't exist in the amount that they say it is.
They know that it exists.
So they justify it.
as this is why they downplay it when they find out because they're right now.
Look at the editorials.
They're all like,
do you know what this is going to do?
This is going to hurt the real racism.
Yeah,
we know that.
Yeah.
We know that.
That's why we've been bitching about Al Sharpton forever.
You put him on as,
you know,
an MSN NBC host.
We bitch about him because he hurts real racism.
I mean, do you hear Ellen Page, the actress?
Ellen Page, now, if you don't know who she is,
she is in a sort of a progressive quantum leap episode for the rest of her life because at some point
she unintentionally made a really good movie that happened to be pro-life or have a pro-life message
Juno which became a big movie and kind of the movie she's known for. So for the rest of her life
she has to say the most crazy liberal things and then until eventually she says enough of them
and she can leap back to the right future or something. She's in that mode of like playing penance
paying penance for all of her previous sins of saying something pro-life.
So she goes on all these shows, and she's always saying the most liberal crazy thing.
Listen to her on Colbert about this attack back when it was going on.
He believes in conversion therapy.
Blaming it on Mike Pence.
He has hurt LGBTQ people so badly as the government of Indiana,
and I think the thing we need to know,
and I hope my show Gacation did this,
in terms of connecting the dots, in terms of what happened the other day to Jesse.
I don't know them personally.
I sent all of my love.
Connect the dots.
This is what happens.
If you are in a position of power
and you hate people.
And you want to cause suffering to them.
You go through the trouble.
You spend your career trying to cause suffering.
Thank you.
What do you think is going to happen?
We're going to weep.
Kids are going to be abused
and they're going to kill themselves.
And people are going to be beaten.
on the street.
Yeah.
Listen to the passion in her voice.
She's crying.
But also listen to what she's saying.
If this is what you do, you hate people so much
that you dedicate your life to that.
Let's Jesse Smollett.
Yeah.
He hates people who are different than him so much.
He has come into a place to where he believes that's who these people are.
To the point where he concocks and.
and perpetrates this hoax and pays people $4,000 to do it with him.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
Just real quick before we take a break.
Pat, how do you believe?
And this comes from, what's his name?
We have him on John Ziegler coming up in a minute.
He said last week, he said, I think what happened,
what I've heard is that the police and everybody were just going to move past this.
And then he had the balls to double down and go on GMA.
Wow.
And they were like, okay, dude.
And they already suspected.
Yeah, they already suspected.
They put.
And they were just going to let it go.
Remember, they put that the two gray lumps, that picture of the two gray lumps.
Yeah.
They put that out.
And he believes it was as bait because as soon as he went on GMA,
and said, that's them.
That's them.
They knew who those guys were.
Wow.
They rounded them up that day.
Remember?
They knew exactly who they were.
So they put it out going,
okay, let's see.
Let's see.
That's them.
I mean, if you look back at the ABC interview,
he's like, and I want them arrested.
That's them.
I know it's them.
How do you know it's them?
I know it's them.
Well, you did know.
I paid him good money to be there.
So I know.
That's right.
What was the name, Cleetus? He's from Kenya.
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He is an independent voice and rights for Mediite,
and he is one of the guys.
And I think the first to really take this Jesse Smollett case on and say, wait a minute, something's not right here.
We talked to him on Friday as this was starting to fall apart.
And he laid the case out.
John, I'd like you just to lay the case out again real quick, just in case somebody isn't familiar with the case.
Sure.
A couple weeks ago, Empire actor Jesse Smollett claimed that at 2 a.m. in Chicago, in the middle of a polar voice,
vortex that he had been attacked by two Trump-loving goons who yelled, among other things,
had him racial epitats, insulted his sexuality, and declared Chicago to be MAGA country,
sprayed him with bleach, tied a rope around his neck, I guess, which was supposed to be a noose.
He was the victim of a horrible hate crime.
And the media, of course, shockingly, lapped this up as, as, as he was.
if this was obviously true and that there was no other scenario that could possibly be the
case because after all, in their minds, no one ever lies or exaggerates about any of this kind of
thing, even though the end result, as you well know, Glenn, and many of your listeners know,
is that many of these stories end up being false. And this one never made any sense. And the
way that it fell apart over a couple of a period of time to me is fascinating. And, you know, I
appreciate you giving me the credit because I don't get credit for any of these types of stories.
I have made literally hundreds of dollars over the years going after these stories.
Well, let's not stretch it.
It's not fun because, by the way, even when you're right, you still end up taking more grief than you get credit in most cases.
But I feel like all I was was the kid and the emperor with no clothes.
You're just going, wait a minute.
The emperor has no clothes here.
This is an obvious story.
What was fascinating about, just to be it real quick, what was fascinating to me was I did a series of interviews in Chicago very early on in this story where I'm being used by Chicago radio hosts, radio hosts who are not supposed to be afraid of anything, right?
Because they don't want to be the ones to say this is false, so they bring me on because I've written for Mediite and tell them what they already are thinking, but no one wants to say.
And that's really what happened here.
It's really frightening.
So, John, I think one of the reasons why the average person may have been caught up on this and just accepted it is because at first he had gone to the hospital and you got the impression that he had to stay there for a day or two.
And so he was really hurt.
That's all bogus too.
Well, yeah.
I mean, if you look now who it was, these two Nigerian brothers who are bodybuilders, who are.
the ones who were involved in this, if they were going to beat Jesse Smollett up, he would
have had more than a scratch underneath his eye, and he would not have been able to go to Los
Angeles almost immediately to do, I guess he would call it a concert where he was dancing
within a couple of days.
I mean, that part didn't make a lot of sense.
There were a lot of things that didn't make a lot of sense.
Well, the fact that he held on to his subway.
Well, I mean, that's a love, that's a love of a sandwich man.
You're like, I'm fighting off two guys who are trying to beat me up, bore bleach on me, but I am not letting go of this sandwich.
Well, I have to say, and I was, and by the way, the police were, both of us were essentially wrong in our original theory about what happened because I'm told from my sources, which I've been very good on this story from the beginning, that originally the police, and I thought this made sense, because I'm not a conspiracy guy.
I despise conspiracies.
I believe in incompetence.
But even the police were convinced that this couldn't have been a total hoax at first
because it was so poorly done, so incompetently done.
Apparently they even rehearsed it.
And so I presumed, and again, the police thought this too,
that this was some sort of a domestic dispute, a relationship he had had with one of these
two actors that went wrong.
and then he created the hate crime allegation afterwards,
I am told that their state police still believe
that there was a relationship between Smollett
and one of the two of them,
but they now believe that what happened here
was that Smollett paid them to be part of this.
One of the more interesting things I'm looking forward to as this goes along,
which I'm sure is not going to happen,
is Smolett going to get the Me Too treatment?
Because if the police are right that he had a relationship
with one of these two guys,
he forced them, right, using his power as an actor in a romantic relationship to engage in a crime.
Now, that's a Me Too violation.
Wow.
This thing is absolutely fascinating.
I saw it this morning that the police said one of the things that immediately said, wait a minute, this may not be right, is he took him to the scene where it happened.
And he immediately pointed out the video camera and said, I am so glad that that camera is up there because you.
caught all of it on video.
And it was so obviously pointed in the wrong direction.
And they were like, A, we've never heard that from a victim who's like, and I saw right
away that there's a video camera right here.
And it was so obvious that it was not going to pick this up.
They went, uh-oh, something's wrong.
Well, Glenn, you make a really great point, which I underestimated the police at the beginning
of this.
I think the police played possum here.
I do too.
I think that they made it seem as if they had no idea it was going on.
They released the photograph of those two blurbs, those blobs, that were the persons of interest.
And at that time, I perceived, and I think Smollett perceived, that was a sign of weakness that the police had nothing.
They had no idea what was happening here.
It is now very clear they knew immediately what was going on.
They had been able to chart those two blobs, which turned out to be the Nigerian.
all the way from the scene of the alleged hate crime into an Uber.
They identified them.
Apparently they have video of them buying the rope.
So they knew their identity from very early on.
And, of course, they immediately know they're Nigerian, they're black.
One of the works on empire, this story is clearly false.
And, you know, to use what I'm sure the left will think is a bad metaphor,
they essentially gave Smollett enough real rope to hang himself
because he ends up identifying them on Good Morning America.
which of course was ridiculous to be you couldn't identify the people when you were being attacked
but you're identifying two blobs in a grainy photograph so and that's the incredible thing is he went on
good morning america to say he doesn't appreciate how this is just uh you know how he's being treated
and called a liar by some it's just like those trump people uh and they put up the two blobs and it's really
like the back of two guys isn't it i can't even tell again i don't know i just because i i i i i just because i i i
The faces were so dark.
I just thought that they were, I don't know, wearing a hoodie or something and walking the other direction.
There's no way you can tell anything about these two guys except it's two big people walking or standing up.
And he gets on and says, I know these are the guys.
Well, how do you know?
I was there.
I saw it.
I know these are the guys.
Right, which to me felt like desperation.
Like he's just latching on to anything that will just insatiate his story.
Also, under the belief that.
the police will never be able to identify these guys when they already had.
And, of course, it's a couple hours after the Good Morning America interview finally airs when they apprehend them.
They question them.
They get them to flip on Smollett.
They don't charge them.
And now, of course, we're waiting for Smallet.
I'm told the police are hoping that Smolet will turn himself in.
I'm still very skeptical, Glenn, whether Smollett is going to suffer any severe legal consequences over this.
The state's attorney in Cook County, I'm told, is very corrupt.
They're going to be under a lot of political pressure to give him a sweetheart deal
and let this just go under the rug.
I told you on Friday, which I think was a key part of this,
that Rahm Emanuel, the mayor of Chicago was pissed off,
and he may have unleashed the dogs on Smallette when he went on Good Morning America,
but he's not in charge of this anymore.
This is a state's attorney's issue.
And so I'm still skeptical whether the left will ever really be forced to eat the crow
that they should on this.
And I also think this is a.
important for your audience. I hope that we don't just look at this as the left wants us to as an
isolated. Oh, no, it's not. This is somehow unique. This is epidemic. This is an epidemic,
especially in the realm of hate crime situations. And it's also, I think, and maybe I'm sure people,
I know I've already driven people on the left crazy for raising this issue. But let's go back to
Kavanaugh for a second, Brett Kavanaugh, because we were told, we remember we were told
that even though Christine Ford story had no corroboration,
By the way, Jesse Smollett story, at least had a time and a place.
And a picture of two blobs.
Right, two blobs and a contemporaneous report.
But in comparison, Jesse Smollett story was fantastically corroborated in comparison to Christine Ford.
But we were told the reason we believe Christine Ford is that a prominent person would never tell an untruth about an allegation like this.
That would never happen.
What do they possibly have to gain?
No one would ever do this and put themselves.
through this. Well, now we know
that's bull crap, because
Jesse Smallett has done that for whatever
reason he did. I don't fully understand why
he did it. We may never know,
but people do very strange things.
And the other thing that's related to this is
the number one misconception,
especially the left has, is we now
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kind of victim is the American
dream. That's
the biggest false premise of the whole thing.
People presume we're still living
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when being a victim was somehow an item of shame.
It's not an item of shame anymore.
And by the way, maybe it never should have been,
but the pendulum has swung so far in the other direction.
People want to be a victim.
You get adulation.
You get attention.
You get money in certain situations.
I believe Colin Kaepernick figured this out
and did it more beautifully than anyone has ever done
in creating himself into being a victim.
And now, you know, he's made millions and millions of dollars out of it.
football career should have been over by now.
So, I mean, that's the number one premise.
Being the right kind of victim is the American dream today.
When I come back, I want you because you work for Mediite, I would like to talk about the media
and what the media should pull from all of these stories that they've done.
What's the real problem here?
Part of it is us.
The free market is like, who's buying stories about victims?
Everybody.
I've got a victim's story.
That's part one.
but the other part is journalism and media today.
And quite honestly, you touched on in the beginning.
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We'll get to that in one minute.
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John Ziegler.
So what does the, what is the media going to pull out of this or should pull out of this?
And what role do they play in all of this?
Great question, Glenn.
Those are two very different things.
What they should and likely will.
First of all, I think that they,
They're an unindicted co-conspirator in the Jussie Smollett story.
And, I mean, without them, I don't think Smollett would have ever thought,
wanted he could get away with this or that he would get adulation for it.
That's number one.
Number two, what they should take away from this is,
let's not be so damn gullible.
Let's not take everything at face value.
And I mentioned on Friday, I have an equation.
It's really pretty simple.
You just take how implausible a story is,
little corroboration it has and then you divide it by how hesitant the media or the authorities
would be to debunk it because of political correctness concerns. And if you get a number
less than one, the story's probably not true. And that formula has worked for me on many,
many occasions. And on this occasion, it was as clear as day that the story is probably not
true. But the problem here is the business model of the media is broken. It is badly broken.
Every single element of the media is broken, which means the two things.
Everyone has to lunge after every story that looks like it might get clicks or traffic or trend on Twitter immediately,
which means that, of course, there's no time for introspection.
There's no time for research or investigation.
And then, of course, the other part of the broken business model is that the people within the business have no job security.
And when you have no job security, you can't do real job.
journalism because real journalism requires saying things often that are unpopular or dangerous.
Well, in this day and age, if you say something that's unpopular or dangerous, when you have no job
security, guess what's going to happen to you?
Especially if you have to be a white male, you're in a story like this, you're done.
It's over, and there's no place to get another job.
So that's where the fear comes in that you already referenced.
So there's way too much fear.
And by the way, no one ever gets fired for jumping on.
These types of stories.
You only get in trouble if you contradict them and don't get vindicated immediately because you pissed off the wrong people.
So, John, here's the thing about this is as we're looking at this story, nobody's buying a story.
Nobody wants to run a story that the narrative is counter to this one.
and so you're you're not incentivized in any way everybody wants to be first or wants to be in the stream
nobody is actually trying to be right over first and the last thing is there isn't anybody in
the media that really doesn't want to believe this story this is what they believe anyway
so it's it's massive confirmation bias
A hundred percent, especially that's, and that's why the liberal media gets these things wrong so often.
But I think your point about incentivization is so incredibly important because there's still a lot of people who believe that truth is the coin of the realm of the media and journalism.
I don't know if that was ever the case, but it's definitely not the case now.
It's popularity.
That's what, it is what matters.
And oftentimes the popular narrative is inherently faulty because of what you mentioned about confirmation bias.
And of course, you and I have talked many times about the Penn State, Joe Paterno, Jerry Sundsky case.
To me, this is the patron saint of all of these cases.
What the truth is, and I've been investigated for six years, I know with every fiber of my being to be 180 degrees different than what the popular narrative was.
But the narrative that was popular.
It was so overwhelming that it was a tidal wave over the truth.
And the truth is never going to win in that case.
And it's not close.
And this is not an isolated situation.
That's just the most dramatic one I've seen.
Okay, John Ziegler, you can find him at Zygman Freud,
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I think so much, John Ziegler,
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There is an interesting look at the media from the media.
And also something else that we all need to learn about our actions matching what we believe.
I think that's a fallacy that we're all, well, I want my action.
Really? Is that what you want? I'll get into that here in just a second.
A lot of people are saying there's no consequences for small that.
to face any. He's not going to. There won't be any consequence. You really think so?
I think there's going to be consequences on this one. What do you think is going to happen to
Smily? A giant
fat deal as a spokesperson for Subway. Here's a guy who waited through a band of marauders.
Yes. And it named Cletus, attacking him when he had his tuna sandwich in his hand. And what did
he do? He made it through. He got that tuna sandwich all the way to his belly. Can I tell you something?
Kaepernick wants to go back in
I think Smoliet should be
I don't know anything about sports
but I think a running back
Isn't that the guy who grabs the ball and runs?
There you go.
That guy is not letting go of that subway.
That's right.
Make that football paint it like it's wrapped
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That guy's never going to let it go.
And the good thing with Subway is
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So this is a good way for them
go and I think it works I like that yeah that's very good that's very good let me let me let me
let me take you back to the media here um the media is saying and I and I want to I want to
quote there are two competing definitions of media there is one view promoted by professional
anti-media messengers like Donald Trump Jr who portray the media is just one big blob
He tweeted Media Hollywood desperately wanted Smollett's claims to be true to push their hate of conservatives.
Then there's the other view, which I know to be true, that the media is made up of thousands of outlets and hundreds of thousands of people with great journalists and lazy aggregators, with no single mission or belief system.
There are mistakes and built-in biases?
Sure, definitely.
But most journalists are trying their best to report what is true.
this competitive, chaotic world of media contradicts Don Jr.'s
Imagine world.
Okay, so let me ask you this.
Is that a warning against collectivism, essentially?
Yeah.
It's interesting.
They want to see people with people to be seen as individuals.
Yes.
It's an interesting concept.
Unless by the government.
Right, unless it's the government.
Yeah.
Or if it's, you know, evil white Trump supporters, right?
Yes.
Those people are all seen as a, with a broad brush.
Tea parties, conservatives.
God, yes.
Group of all.
Christians?
Oh my gosh.
Group, group, group, group, group.
And we keep saying.
You.
Yeah.
They try to, everyone's basically the Westboro Baptist Church.
Correct.
And we keep saying, actually, those are a few really bad people, but generally speaking,
Christians aren't anything like that.
Right.
But do we, here's, here's something for the media.
Media, this at least is one show.
Now, I know you like to take all talk radio and make us all alike, but it's crazy.
We're all made up of thousands of individuals.
But this is one individual who I will not dismiss cases of racism because I know that there are racists and I know that racism exists.
However, I am skeptical when everything seems to fit perfectly this narrative that you guys love to eat and shovel out.
So I am skeptical, but isn't that what you're supposed to be?
You should be all the time.
Here's also one guy who will report that it is a lie that black people, brown people, yellow people, red people, any people couldn't be racist.
No, no. Race is a human trait.
Just like our biases, those are human traits.
It's how we are raised, how we're educated, who we're, how we're educated, who we were,
around what influences us.
Those things are called bias.
Some of us can say, yeah, I'm a conservative.
I'm absolutely a conservative.
But I am not blind to loyalty.
I am not just, oh my gosh, I've got to be loyal to this because I'm a conservative.
No, if it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense.
You know, there's something that's happening in Brexit right now with the Brexit thing.
Seven people have left the, um, the labor party.
because of their Brexit strategy and the ongoing anti-Semitism and racism in the,
what a surprise, leftist party?
When's that going to start happening here?
When are we going to have journalists that go, you know what?
I got to tell you, I was on the bandwagon, but, you know, these guys have gone too far.
These guys have gone too far.
They will do anything.
When's that going to happen?
Because I know it happened on the right.
A lot of us said, you know what?
I don't have anything to do with the Republican Party anymore.
I don't abandon my values, but it's really strange.
I was painting a painting this weekend, and it was, it's behind me now, if you happen to be watching.
And it is a picture of this really spooky looking guy in the shadows, and his eyes have almost like hypnotic rays coming out.
And he has two hands out.
One has the Facebook logo.
The other has the Google logo.
he represents like the government Google is data information and AI and Facebook is social media
and the painting is called here to help it's here to help trust us we're just here to help
no it's not when you close that loop of those three it should scare the hell out of you
and as I was painting it I realized this is this is this is rebellion stuff
This is stuff that the left should be doing right now.
But they're not doing it.
They don't even realize how out of step they are with their own values
that they just are so hell bent on destroying what they think is the problem that they haven't realized,
oh, good God, I'm in bed with the devil.
I'm in bed with everything I've always stood against.
I'm not an art critic.
but I did want to point out to the audience who was listening on radio.
I believe it's an accurate painting because this super scary guy is white.
Right?
You did make him white.
And that makes it powerful.
Well, he's more of a bluish green, but...
Well, when the lights on his hands, though, they're pretty white.
Yeah.
So I think it's...
That's accurate.
Because this is the exact type of guy that can beat you up while you're carrying your
Subway sandwich.
Exactly.
And that, by the way, is on sale for one footlong for $5 this week.
that's exactly what you.
You have to catch it and then run.
Okay, so let me, let me go into this.
So we've talked about the free market.
The free market has to have a virtuous people because the free market will provide whatever
you want.
Well, right now, the free market on the left wants these stories of victims and oppression
and, you know, white mega hat wearing racists.
That's what the system wants.
That's the market is saying, I got to call.
for it over here. Who's got one? Who's got one? Who's got one? Who's got one? And as we have shown you,
and we will show you tonight at five, over and over and over and over and over again. People are
delivering it. They're fake. Doesn't mean that racism doesn't happen. It just means the media is
getting trapped by all of these fakes because they want it so desperately. And why do they want it?
they want it to destroy see the search for truth is not about destroying something the search for
truth is the search for truth let the chips fall where they may but we've gone so far away from
the truth we just have our belief we just know this is what no this is what i believe and then
we we don't even really care about living it because if we really did care about living what we
believe we wouldn't have so much hypocrisy. Look at the hypocrisy. Both sides of the aisle. Look at the
hypocrisy. You say one thing, you go in and do it. The debt is so un-American. Really? Look at the debt.
Hear anybody crying about it? Nope. Why? Because nobody really cares. No, the debt is just something
that's used when the other party's in power. Correct. I care about the debt. I'm talking about
the spending now. And I was talking about the spending then. Doesn't matter.
who's in, this is a problem.
Okay.
But we want a virtue signal.
And our virtue signaling, uh, causes people to say, well, look at the hypocrisy.
His action doesn't meet his belief.
But we're so far beyond that as the problem.
Our actions matching our belief system.
We're so far beyond that.
Don't ask that question.
Well, I want to make sure that my actions line up with my belief.
Yeah, you might want to go back a step
Because what really matters today
If you want to fix the country
You want to fix yourself, you want to fix your community
You want to fix your country, you want to fix journalism
Stop asking if your action matches what you believe
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What do you think, honestly, about him looking at Colin Kaepernick and seeing, you know,
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I'm in this show.
I don't even know if it's still on the air.
So he's like the ninth character.
He sees Colin Kaepernick.
All you have to do is stand up against the power.
stand up for something that everybody, you know, on the left is for all of your friends,
and you know it's true anyway.
America and the national anthem, that's a racist song.
We all know it's true.
We all know that lynching is happening.
So I just go the extra mile.
I'm an actor.
I can pull this off.
Life, all the world is but a stage.
Yeah.
And he's doing it because he saw Colin Kaepernick make it a fortune.
I mean, really, it's interesting that this actor is getting in trouble because of his poor acting.
I mean, if he just had better plot development, this may have actually worked.
But honestly, it's like a murderer going, oh, but I follow the episode of Colombo to the latter.
No, yeah, it doesn't, it's not good.
I will say that, too, I think with the Kaepernick thing is an interesting example because I think he probably has a motivation in that, like, this is how he sees the world and everything else.
but if you look back at the last 20 years,
we've seen many examples of people leaking their own sex tapes,
things that normally you would think.
I mean, there was a time where people,
when they got attacked,
and if someone came to him and said,
hey, did you get attacked?
Are you the victim?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You would downplay your own attack.
That's what he said.
That's what he said.
I didn't want, I didn't, I didn't go to the police right away
because I'm gay and I don't want gay people to,
you know, people are always saying,
oh, you gay people are weak.
Who is saying...
Who says that?
And by the way, we all saw how tightly you held onto that subway.
That's a strong man.
I got me trying to lynch you, throw bleach on you, and you're still holding on to that sandwich.
I respect that.
And I saw the perpetrators of this.
There are some photos that went around of them.
They are in much better shape than I am.
They are not weak.
No.
I don't think...
Maybe there was a time where people thought gay people were weak.
They seem to be in a really good shape these days.
When did they say?
When did they say that they were gay?
They said one of them was in a relationship.
That's one of the accusation the whole time.
That doesn't make both of them gay now, does it, Hater?
I don't.
And why do you call them both?
Well, there's three people.
Two of them, if they were in a relationship,
it would mean multiple people were gay in the relationship.
I would think.
That's not all, is it?
I didn't, well, I didn't say all.
I just said.
That's what I heard.
That's what America heard.
Yeah, but that doesn't matter if that's what you heard or what America heard.
Oh, sorry, Mr.
Oh, I got country time limineade where the truth mattered.
I got it.
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Now that's not a command.
That's a statement.
Weiner's out.
Disgraced former congressman,
convicted sexual offender,
Anthony Weiner is out.
I mean, how much time should you spend in,
in prison for sexting a 14-year-old?
I mean, it's certainly not more than what?
15 months.
15 months.
15 months.
That's too much.
They only went against him because this country is against high-powered politicians and particularly Democrats.
Well, he's also, he has to pay a $10,000 fine, which, you know, it shouldn't be hard for him, seeing that he had a lot of money in the first place.
But he also has to register as a sex offender, and he does have three years probation where he is closely monitored.
So when they say probation, how much sexting with 14-year-olds does that allow for?
I don't think any.
but he's a Democrat
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I mean, you should at least give him a couple of week.
Perhaps when you really think about it,
he can do as much as he wants.
He just can't get caught again.
Exactly right.
He's got to be a little bit like...
His crime was, I mean, who are you to judge?
Love is love.
And who are you to judge?
Right.
Love finds a way.
You know, if a man named Carlos Danger
wants to interact with a,
you know, a fan of Justin Bieber,
it's actually too old of a reference now,
They're probably all over 14 now.
Whoever is popular enough, Cardi B.
Is Cardi B? Would Cardi B be a good one here?
I don't know.
I don't know. Whoever that is.
How can you stop a man from doing such a thing?
By the way, there's somebody else that is in prison for similar things.
It's Bill Cosby.
And Bill Cosby is, quote, having an amazing experience.
Good for him.
Right.
In an interview, his press spokesperson, Andrew Wyatt,
said he used the term amazing experience.
Now he was sentenced to three to ten years in prison for drugging and sexually
assaulting women.
He is,
he's living off by himself for a while.
He's just been put into general population.
His wife still has not come to meet him in prison.
Oh, no, no, no.
He talks to her three times a day for three minutes on the phone.
he says he doesn't want her to come see him in prison, but he's having an amazing experience.
He said, it's not what he expected.
That's great news.
You know, things changed, Glenn.
Things change quickly.
You know, there's a time where Bill Cosby was so beloved in our society.
Can I give you a little flashback here for a moment?
This is, I think, an interesting study in how the media operates.
rates. So the governor of Virginia, he wore blackface in the early 1980s, as you know. I know.
I know. Well, remember, first of all, let's remember where this started. I started with her
complete racist, Megan Kelly, who just asked a question. I don't understand if you're wearing it,
if you're wearing black face, you know, but you want to glorify that person, she was terminated
immediately for asking the question, can you wear blackface if you're doing a tribute and you're
trying to look like this individual? She was terminated immediately. That's amazing. I had totally
forgotten that was the reason. Yeah. I had 100 million or, you know, it was a 20 million dollars a
year, whatever her contract was. She got a full $67 million payout. That's how much they wanted
to get rid of her. And they did it with the excuse that she was a racist.
because she asked that question.
But tell me about the governor who's still in office.
And also the third guy in line for bringing a governor also had worn blackface.
Yeah, but the second guy in line, he was only sexually assaulting people.
Well, yeah, I should.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Now, the blackface is not alleged.
Yes.
Because that would actually.
So remember, this is the early 1980s he admits to having Michael Jackson and Blackface on.
And the reporting on it from the New York Times was, I think the head.
headline was, the governor parties, like it's 1884. That was their headline. And I thought to myself,
like, here's a, yes, obviously, we all know that Blackface is a really bad idea, and you should not,
you should not wear it. However, there has been a time in the past where that was not the way people
thought about it. I mean, certainly some did, right? Like, we know that there have been really bad
examples of this over the past.
But I thought myself,
Soul Man was a movie released by a major studio
in which the plot of the movie is a white guy
goes into blackface to get into Harvard.
And it's a hilarious comedy
about a white guy who puts on blackface to go into Harvard.
Now, we would all say now that would not be something
that would be released and no one would act in it
offered. However, in this period, was it that crazy? Again, it was before Soul Man came out,
like what, six years previous to this, he supposedly wore Blackface. Okay. And in 1986,
the movie Soul Man came out. And I thought to myself, self, what was the New York Times saying
about Soul Man in 1986? Because were they out there saying like, this is a relic from 1884?
They said, now they're saying it's party like in 1918,
here is their review of Soul Man in the New York Times from 1986.
I love you, Stu.
I just love you.
There's nothing, again, I want you to understand this, Glenn.
There's nothing automatically funny about the story of a rich white college boy who masquerades as a black.
There's not, it's not automatically.
It's not automatically.
You got to work into this one a little bit.
We're going to make you work for that laugh.
We are.
More than just putting the black face on, which, of course, funny.
But not automatically.
That's not automatically a hit comedy.
Right, okay?
You guys got to go deeper.
There's nothing automatically funny about the story of a rich white college boy who masquerades is black in order to collect a scholarship to Harvard Law School.
That's putting it mildly.
But Soul Man, which opens today at Lowe's State and other theaters, has a breezy, unapologetic manner.
And it also happens to be funny, which goes a long way towards making up for any of the underlying.
obtuseness or insensitivity.
The director
has arrived at this cheerful
frat house version of
Tootsie. A
cheerful frat house
version of Tootsie. Yeah, hang on
just a second. Hang on just a second.
Could Tootsie even be made today?
I don't
think. Probably not.
Probably not. Because wouldn't that
be a
Because it was a
cross-dresser. A cross-dresser.
And he was pretending to be a
woman to be near his children.
I probably not.
You're confusing that.
I am.
With Mrs. Doubtfire.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
That's right.
I am.
This is another one you couldn't make.
I don't think you can make that one either.
So wait,
what's Tootsie about?
Tutsi is the actor that couldn't get a job.
He was a great actor.
Couldn't get a job.
He needed to be a,
you know, a strong woman is what they were looking for.
So, and everybody's saying he was a bad actor.
And he's like, okay, I'll show you.
It's a brilliant.
funny, funny movie, funny movie.
I mean, not automatically funny.
Sure, but funny.
It's a good point. It's not automatically funny.
It's important to point out.
Just a guy in a dress isn't automatically funny.
Now, I will say, I will ask this question, Glenn,
is it, as the New York Times called Soul Man in 1986,
a blithe, silly, good-natured movie?
And of its kind, quite an enjoyable one.
Now, hang on.
a second. The governor of Virginia
is in trouble. Now, if
he was the one, well,
if he's either one in the picture with
the clan, okay, he's
in trouble. But he denies
that that's him, either the clan
or the blackface guy. Right.
And I, you know, again, this
is, this is not something you want to push back on.
But I mean, if the, what's the point
of the clan black guy
photo? Like, the only thing I can think of
is why this photo would exist is
the odd pairing, right? Like,
it's an odd couple, like two people going to a party. One's a clan member and one's not,
one's a black guy, right? Yeah. That's probably the quote unquote joke. Again, not that I'm
defending it. Right. But I don't know. Is that any more or less offensive than being Michael
Jackson in blackface previously? I don't know. Yeah, I think it actually is. It may be. It's kind of
like, you know, a Jew in, you know, prison guard going with Hitler. Right. Yeah, that's not a good
look. Not a good look. Not funny. Not funny.
However, Michael Jackson, I bet that was a breezy performance.
It goes back to what Megan Kelly was saying.
Yeah.
Is this so bad?
Yeah, I think the, you know, I'm not going to shun anybody, you know,
from business 30 years after their life because they did that.
However, when you are doing a tribute to someone like he was doing with Michael Jackson,
is that so bad?
Right.
The theory being that if you're trying to compliment someone as dressing up with them,
like, you know, it's the same controversy you see every Halloween now
where if you dress up as a Native American, right, you're taking their culture and it's offensive.
But if the person is saying, well, I'm not doing it to be offensive.
I'm doing it because I like that culture.
Is that a problem?
And today, absolutely it is.
In 1980, was it?
I don't know.
In 1986, the New York Times was praising a major studio release.
lease about blackface. You had for the first time in American history, you had a bunch of white
kids wanting to be black like Michael Jackson and your star who was black changing his face to
try to be white. Or a woman or had a very rare disease. Not sure what that was about. The New York
Times goes on to talk about his phony looking afro in the movie. And this is what actually
reminded me of this when you said Cosby.
This is one of the quotes from the movie.
This is from the white guy in blackface saying,
these are the 80s.
This is the Cosby decade.
America loves black people.
This is a hilarious joke.
They quote, in the movie they're praising.
Mark's manner remains unchanged after his physical transformation.
His attitudes could not help but be affected.
In the end, a Tutsi-like learning experiences emerges from this adventure.
He finds, for example, that he can no longer stand listening to the Beach Boys.
that's your learning experience.
If this seems speedy and superficial course in conscious raising,
and it comes at relatively late in the film, it's better than nothing.
And the pretty actress named Malota Hardin does what little she can with the role of a white girl
who wants to sleep with Mark simply because he's black.
Quote, something about 400 years of oppression and anger, as she explains it.
This isn't a positive review.
So is that still available, do you know?
What? Is that, is that, can you still rent that? Can you still find that?
That was, because you can't get Song of the South, which is one of the most endearing stories of all time.
You cannot get Song of the South. It's not available on YouTube.
The Zippity, do dot, no, no, cannot get it. But you can get this one? I don't know. It's a good question.
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As in it's raining?
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Nope.
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Now, dachshunds are low to the ground, so maybe it's different for them.
Right.
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It's so skinny and thin and it's like a, it's like a sail.
You know, it's like it would be like a kite.
Put the, put the leash at the center of the Afghan, go for a walk and it'll just blow up and it'll just start like a kite, that one.
But little dogs would just roll down the street like a tumbleweed.
Yeah, I think that's true.
I think that's, I think you have the science correct.
Do we have tumbleweeds here?
No, no, they're just little Scottish terriers.
Well, how small does a dog have to be?
Because a 40 or 50 mile an hour, you know, I mean, that has to be like one of those really
mini, the mini, like legitimate in Paris Hilton's purse.
Can I tell you something?
I've never seen a dog blow down the street.
I mean, I've, you know, I, I, I, I'm not like, shit.
you know, a weather chaser, but I've, I've lived 55 years.
It's really windy here all the time.
It's been really windy.
I've never seen, you know, I've never seen like a tumbleweed blown down the street going
yipe, yipe, yipe, yipe, jipe, jive, jive, jive, jive, jive.
I've never, I've never, either.
But it's happened so many times.
There's an actual small dog warning.
Yeah.
Which makes you think, I mean, that's got to be a tough experience.
Do you get an EBS alert?
It would have to be little barks, wouldn't it?
Like little yips.
Guy, die!
I don't know.
That's interesting.
Because I think you'd have to have a really small dog.
Maybe the idea is like you're walking them on the street
and the wind blows in it, it blows him into the street and the kids gets hit by a car.
It can't be really taking off like a kite, right?
I mean, that's tornado territory, isn't it?
No, because really small dogs are about the size of a cat.
Yeah, but a cat is not going to be lifted up and thrown.
Cats not stupid enough.
Cats aren't dumb enough.
I don't know if they know this, but, you know, dogs are pets, yes.
However, there's lots of other animals that are smaller than dogs all over the place.
For instance.
I've never seen any of them be thrown up in the air either.
We found on Friday a cat-sized rat, not to be confused with a dog-sized or cat-sized dog-sized rat.
Cat-sized rat.
That's terrifying.
Back here, it went into one of the rat traps.
We found it were like, ooh, wow, that's a big one.
In this building?
Good God.
Why would you tell us that?
I'm not picking it up.
I might still be there.
You want to go look at it?
I thought we were going to say it like your ranch or something.
No.
You mean in here?
Yeah.
It was in the back cages.
We were going through the property cages.
And it was like, and somebody was with me.
One guy said, good Lord, look at that.
That's a big rat.
And we looked down.
And then, you know, Tim, he looked at it.
And he said, oh, I'll get that.
And he reached down with his hands.
And none of us said anything.
He was like, no, I'm just kidding.
I'm not going to do it.
So it still might be there.
But anyway.
You don't see rats blowing down the street.
Right.
If every time it got windy, like leaves, they blow around the circles.
If you saw animals in like a typhoon.
And I lived in Baltimore, man.
There should have been rats like leaves blowing down the street all the time.
This is a hoax.
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I had no idea.
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There's a couple of other things that I want to talk about.
If you missed the podcast this weekend, every Saturdays,
we do a podcast and they're usually about 90 minutes anywhere from an hour to 90 minutes and they are just riveting I think we had gad sad on now
gad is a guy who is a university professor from Canada he is a guy who just loves the truth and is very concerned about what's happening to the truth in universities and all throughout society and we talked about
everything. One of the first people, Jordan Peterson reached out to when he was having his troubles
initially. Yeah, because he's like the godfather of telling truth, you know, and always getting in
trouble for it. And he doesn't care. And I just, I love this guy. You're going to fall in love with him
when you listen to him. But check it out. Here he is talking about, you know, we say it's
Trump derangement syndrome. He calls it something else. Listen to this. So Munchausa syndrome is where
someone feigns a medical condition so they can garner empathy and sympathy. Oh, poor me, look at me,
I'm sick. Munchausen syndrome by proxy is where you take someone who's under your care, your biological
child, your pet, your elderly parent, and you harm them so that you can get and garner the sympathy
and empathy by proxy because they're damaged, right? So this is called Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
And by the way, the ones who suffer most from that are usually women who harm their biological
children to garner the sympathy. So I had written.
in a paper, you know, talking about the psychiatric disorder. And then when I started seeing the
full victimhood, the screaming, the fake hysteria associated with Trump, that's when I coined the term
collective bunchausen. Because it was a way for people to seek attention in grotesque ways
and truly what seemed to me in false sounding ways, right? I mean, I would see on my Facebook page
people sort of testifying to their looming victimhood. I am a woman of color. I attend the
University of Maine, will it still be safe for me to go to college now that Trump? Well, what do you
think? There's going to be roadblocks and the Trump storm patrols are going to be ushering you to
gang rape centers. I mean, what can justify this level of idiotic hysteria? And so that's why I
called it collective munchausen, because it truly was a confabulation of faux hysteria.
What upsets me is that it's one thing for this idiot on my Facebook page to write the stuff. It's
another thing when many of my supposedly sophisticated intellectual friends were succumbing to the same
hysteria. That's what upsets me. So I won't mention any names, but one of my good friends, whom you
probably know, is one of the type who will say things like, you know, there's going to be food shortages
now that Trump. There's going to be a nuclear holocaust. He's the worst thing since Hitler. And this is a
guy who otherwise, you would have thought, is a terribly sophisticated and dispassionate thinker. And so it's
a real mystery to me why they are what causes that what caused that in him yeah i think i know
you're talking about very smart i very reasoned very i mean he's sort of the the model of the very
dispassionate right um so i i pitched an idea on the reuben report as to why i think this is
happening i think that the intellectual class views trump as a what i call an aesthetic injury right
He lived, you know how this, this beautiful place that you're in, I mean, is gorgeous aesthetics, right?
You have a nice aesthetic sense.
Well, academics and intellectual types have a sense of the types of aesthetics that they seek in their leader.
Barack Obama, exempla, he's tall, he's got a beautiful smile, he speaks with a certain cadence of a Southern Baptist preacher.
He seems noble and majestic.
So it doesn't matter what he says, that most of it is complete, but he, my God, he sounds noble and entire.
intellectual. Donald Trump is an ogre. He speaks in an ugly way. He's grotesque. He's a brawler. He's a
New Yorker. He's swearing. He's grabbed this. Right. So on every possible aesthetic metric,
he offends my sense of aesthetics. And so I think they are disgusted by him. They are repulsed. It's
visceral. He is a remarkable man. His name is Gad sad. And he's just remarkable the way
he thinks. We cover all kinds of topics, really, almost everything. And he, at one point,
we started talking about freedom of speech. Listen to this. So Munchausen syndrome is where someone
feigns and medical conditions. Free speech absolutist. I believe that anything short of a direct
exhortation to violence, libel and defamation, everything goes. And the way that I
demonstrate my commitment to those principles as I pick the most grotesque possible instance,
which is Holocaust deniers to a Jewish person, right?
What could be more offensive than taking the historical event that is probably the most documented in
history where people were systematically, you know, exterminated and allow someone to say,
no, it never happened.
But if you are a free speech absolutus in a free society, then you have to tolerate the most
grotesque. So I tell people, I am a Jewish person and I support the right of Holocaust deniers
to reject that the Holocaust ever happened. So I walk to walk, talk to talk. So your hurt feelings,
frankly, I don't give a blank about. Life is anti-fragile to use the term of Nassim Talib, right?
You grow by being, that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger, correct? Therefore,
post-modernists say that which doesn't, that way, how is this the, the
turn of the phrase on this.
We could have cut this part out of this for the love of being.
I've never heard the postmodern.
They've twisted and turned it around upside.
So it really, I find it very frustrating because it is a perfect way to stifle discussions, right?
Don't criticize Islam because that's my religious faith.
That hurts me.
What do you mean?
In a free society, you can go on Twitter and say what a bunch of crock Judaism is.
If I'm strong in my beliefs, I shouldn't worry about what Blenbeck thinks.
It's amazing how we have turned that upside down.
We've really turned that upside down.
I mean, I really think that's why people like Acacio-Cortez are just not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
For instance, putting out the Green New Deal, I think that's a pretty steep.
stupid, rookie, rookie, fourth grader kind of move.
Why, why doesn't, why didn't she fear?
Because she's living at large.
No matter what she says, no matter what she does,
no one's going to say anything to her because it's a success right now.
You're not doing anybody any good if you keep the truth from them.
They don't have to defend it.
I, you know, when you believe in something and you know it to be true, you just know it to be true,
that's when you should do a little more listening to the other side, just because it'll sharpen the edge.
You'll learn more about what people are saying, the why it's not true, and you'll be able to defend it.
But if you don't have anybody sharpening that steel, I mean, you can't last.
You can't last.
It's like if you're a band that like has all these hit songs,
then you want to do like a rock opera.
And then they push back against you and they're like,
hey, maybe the rock opera is not the way to go.
Some bands did the rock opera.
Some bands went for it.
And then, you know,
they were no longer bands like six months after that.
That's weird that you say that because I was thinking queen.
Yeah, queen is a...
But queen, queen...
A lot of people tried to do queen after queen.
I don't know if you know that.
You don't remember any of their names because they tried it.
Right.
But Queen, the Queen did it for the same thing.
They didn't want to just do what they were good at.
They wanted to push themselves so they would get stronger.
They went out of their comfort zone.
Yes. Yes.
And that's something, unfortunately, we don't do because there's no such thing as a comfort zone anymore.
It's a safe zone.
And everything that makes you uncomfortable is out of the safe zone.
So nobody says, hey, you should make yourself uncomfortable from time to time.
reach out, push, push the edges of that.
Why?
Into the unsafe zone?
No, no, bad things happen there.
It's dark.
Why are you saying it's dark, racist?
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Welcome to the program.
A couple of things.
First of all, do you think Nancy Pelosi may have CTE?
Is there a possibility?
She does seem like every question she's asked is asked as if she is waking up from a 12-hour sleep.
I want to play a little Nancy Pelosi on Valentine's Day last.
week. Listen. So thank all of you. Happy Valentine's Day. We saluted our victory, or the victory for
the American people, earlier, with chocolate. Chocolate from California. I call it. It's just
paying of chocolate. And so, again, I wish you all happy Thanksgiving.
So again, happy Thanksgiving. No, it's, it's, it's happy Valentine's Day.
Which you correctly stated just a few seconds earlier. And I mean, I do have the chocolate turkeys
on my
on my plate for
for Thanksgiving
and Valentine's Day
but I also
also, on those two meals
we also serve heart
so I can see the confusion
you know
I think she's
I think they're seriously
something is not right
with Nancy Pelosi
She really does feel like
you know how you feel
when you get up
your sound asleep
and like your alarm goes off
your house and you just wake up
and you have no
what does that sound
I know the phone rings
Sometimes you're like, what does I don't, what is going on.
That is how she seems in every, like she's unaware.
Everything's taking her by surprise.
She doesn't seem to know the basics.
Well, surprise is probably just the, the Botox and the eye surgery.
Because I think when she sits down, her eyes open wider.
Oh, okay.
Her skin's a little too tight.
Because the skin is tied to the spine.
Yes.
So when she bends her back, the eyes do open just a little bit.
She's an interesting individual to lead a party.
I mean, that's, I don't.
I don't know if that's ideal.
I don't know.
If you could map it out, you probably pick somebody else.
It's just, I mean, it is, it's, these guys just stay in too long.
Yeah.
They stay in too long.
And for her, one day was too long.
Yes, my point exactly.
Happy Thanksgiving, Stu.
Happy Thanksgiving to you too.
Happy Thanksgiving and Columbus Day.
And Flag Day.
Yes.
It's not Flag Day yet.
It's not how do you, no.
Oh, it's only Groundhog Day, isn't it?
Yeah, it's tomorrow's flag day.
Tomorrow's like sure.
For Christmas.
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