The Glenn Beck Program - Thawed, Defrosted, Brought Back To Life? | Guests: Dr. Wilfred Reilly & Philip Klein | 3/28/19

Episode Date: March 28, 2019

Hour 1 Jussie Smollett is "weighing options' for suing Chicago PD? ...Marissa's Movie Review of the New 'Dumbo'? Thawed, Defrosted and brought back to life? ...'People are Dying' to have it 'both ways' on Helium Thursday? ...Americans have become 'creeped' out by the Democrat Party? ...It's critical that All Believers in Christ Come Together? Hour 2 Is Hate Hoax crime on the rise? Professor of Political Science Dr. Wilfred Reilly examines the high rate of hoaxing? Why was the decision made to drop all charges on Jussie Smollett? Are stories like Smollett's 'common'? '... Is getting rid of Obamacare really a reality or just hype? 'Overcoming Obamacare' with author Phillip Klein tells us? Will the GOP be the New Party of Health Care?  Hour 3 How to pay for a New Firehouse (mansion)? Glenn lives in a town with the "Nicest' Firehouse? A 15 million dollar firehouse for 900 people? The Pat Gray dividend is in full effect? "Pat paid for that"? Our government buildings are becoming Taj Mahal's?   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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joy Helium Thursday. However, we're going to look at aOC's wonderful speech about people are dying of global warming. And it's a very serious issue. And we'll talk about that coming up

with or without Stu. What was the second option again? This is the Glenn Beck program. You just don't... I don't know why you don't like Helium Thursday. It's going to make that AOC thing much easier to listen to. Did you hear her rant yesterday?

I did, yes. It's hard to do worse than her, so you were probably right on the helium thing. Oh, my gosh, it is so... It is such a great story. It's just such a great story. All right, I want to talk to you a little bit about Relief Factor if you're in constant pain. today may be your day. I want you to try Relief Factor.

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You're not taking it seriously. I'm saying you can vote on it right now. No, we got to talk about it. Wait a minute. You got to talk about it. All of you guys have endorsed this. You proposed it. You said it was the most important thing. Elizabeth Warren came out and said it was the freaking moon shot.

It was as important, if not more important than go to the moon, which I think a lot of Democrats might relate to because I think they've been deprived of oxygen for a while like you would if you lived on the moon. This is craziness. We're going to talk about that coming up in just a second. But also, the guy who, I mean, if we had a scale and we could weigh the balls on a person, I would think that Jussie, which is a stupid name, Smollett, equally as stupid, I think he might win.

I have a theory that he would not be nearly in as much trouble if he would have not gone on ABC and said, yep, I mean, I'm just, you know, the police are looking and I'm just so beaten up about this and I believe it. And I think that just irritated the police and the mayor so much that this guy had the balls to go on television and say that when it wasn't true. Acting like the victim after he already faked acting like a victim is really frustrating. So really frustrating. Then when they dismissed the charges earlier this week, he just ratchets it up.

If you were innocent, why did you pay $10,000? That seems like a pretty bad deal for a guy who's been vindicated. okay so he gives up his bail money of $10,000 then he goes out and says again I've been completely vindicated which was not the deal I think he's even in more trouble and then this is what his attorney says yesterday listen to this

clearly you think the police are not telling the truth about Jesse are you going to sue we're weighing our options now for Jesse what's really important is he really just wants his career and his life back. Again, he did not ask for any of this. He was a victim of a crime. This has completely spiraled out of control and become a political event at this point. And his goal and focus right now is just getting his life back on track. He has not even started healing from the initial attack because he's been dealing with everything that's happened since then. Oh my. Oh my. Oh my.

So they're weighing their options. We don't know. We might sue the police. You might sue the the police, forget the bleach. You are just putting gasoline all over yourself. You're just, and you're in a match factory. It's crazy. I mean, they were lucky enough to get the whole case sealed at this point, even though the FBI is looking into it and more may come out. But if they were to actually sue and open themselves up to all of the evidence coming out anyway,

please do it. Please do it. Please. Because this need, there needs to be some justice here. And, you know, again, I wasn't there. We know that we know what he said happened didn't happen, however, right? Like, we know for a fact, two white guys did not do it. We know, because we saw, we have video of the two people who were accused, the two brothers,

with, you'd be buying the bleach, buying the rope, buying the magat. Buying the masks, buying everything, everything. What were they doing? Were they, were, are they, um, are they, um, are they, are they, are they, are they, Are they some sort of profits where they bought that stuff because they were going to reenact it in their own home just for fun later? But they saw this event coming. I mean, what is the other reason? I want to know just that.

Guys, if this isn't true, which the brothers say it is. Guys, if this isn't true, why did you go out in the middle of the night to hardware store and buy all this stuff? What did you do with that? What what crazy list has those items on it? Except for let's go throw bleach on somebody, throw a noose around their neck, shout, you know, this is Trump country. What else? Yeah, there's not a lot of them.

No. You'd have maybe, maybe, well, because you had an incident similar to this recently in which you went to a yard sale and wanted to buy a blank canvas. Right. Well, no, I just, I look. He just wanted the campus. Just wanted a canvas.

And you picked up a painting and it was very controversial. Yes, you know me. I'm into recycling. Right. You're a big environmentalist, as you were just talking about. Huge environmentally. With a green new deal. Yeah.

Huge. And so you picked up this painting. Yeah. The canvas. I didn't buy it for the painting. I'm sorry. I started seeing it after I got home and I thought, okay, it's clearly unfinished, right? It's clearly undone, unfinished.

And it looks like the way German propaganda used to make Jews look. It's like the artist wanted to make Hitler kind of look like that rat kind of guy that they used to make Jews look like. The victim of his own propaganda. Correct. Then he's holding this piece of paper and I'm guessing it doesn't. say anything on it yet because it's unfinished, I'm guessing. But I'm thinking it probably was going to say you know, infanticide, not rejected by the Senate. And so then there's this Hitler kind of looking down at this paper like, what? And then up above, and it looks like the, looks like the artist was just

like, I'm just going to throw this on here because I just, I don't know if I guess this is going to work. And it says, wait, you mean I only had to call it plant. And parenthood? Right. I mean, an offensive, controversial piece of art, I thought. Well, I wouldn't. One hundredth most important person in the world of art would know that that's a very controversial thing.

But again, you just bought it at a yard sale for the canvas. Correct. And nothing to do with this. Right. Perhaps these two brothers were looking to design a hat but had no blank hats. Okay. They needed a white hat to be able to design. their incredible artwork on.

The only hat they could find was red, and the only way to get it to white was bleach. Ah! So they bought a red hat. They bleached the red hat. And the rope was simply, like, you know, when you have, like, sunglasses, and some people put the little,

little piece of, like, you know, a string on the back so, like, they can hold it around their neck when they take them off. Sure. Perhaps it's Chicago. It's a windy area. perhaps they were concerned this hat would blow off of their heads.

So you put rope on the back of the hat and tied it to maybe their waist. Still, I think you're onto something. In case it blew away. Well, you tied it onto your waist. It wasn't just like the glasses that just kind of hangs around your neck. Well, it's young and around your neck. It would, you know, the hat could still blow off. So you'd have to tie it to like your belt.

That's a good fashion accessory. First of all, it's sexy. I mean, that's the only can start there. Okay. We could start there. That is high rope. I think that's very logical. I think maybe we should reenact this.

We should get a hat. We should bleach it. Let's try it. We should use the rope and see it tight around and see if... Because, I mean, did you watch Making a Murderer Season 2 by any chance? No, I did not. It's on Netflix, of course. And one of the big focuses of the second season is they try all these other scenarios out that they think could explain the murder.

And they just basically reenacted to see what would happen. Can we do it tomorrow? Can we do it? hat, let's get the bleach, let's get the rope, and we'll, uh, the making of the Jesse Smollett non-hate-mongering friends that he had. Right. Right. That's the, that's a great title.

I don't know if Netflix takes it, but maybe Hulu. Right. Right. We're going to do that tomorrow. By the way, the TMZ founder, uh, let me play the audio here. Um, he said he's never seen anything like this. not the way celebrities are usually treated. I have never seen anything quite like this in my entire career.

Nobody understands what really happened here other than a few people in the state's attorney's office. I'm here exactly right. But this is bizarre, makes no sense. I've seen celebrities being handled differently, sometimes more harshly, sometimes less than the average Joe. But this case is different from the way all celebrities would be treated. There is something fundamentally different in this case.

I have never seen this kind of a disposition where the state's attorney secretly says, go to Jesse Jackson's for the weekend, spend a couple hours, you know, working on camera shots, and then we'll call that community. I've never seen anything like that. It's different from other celebs. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.

Well, you know, that's not that was a... It's probably the bleach and the hat thing. Right. And the rope around the belt. I think you... You might be on this something. We'll pick that up on tomorrow's program. Booker had a town hall yesterday.

That was pretty interesting. He's, I think right now you could just put him in the White House. Why even have the election after that town hall? It was so good. Well, because we have to keep a Democrat. Sure, we're going to have, we're going to have socialism, but we want it to be democratic. That's what we really want. So we want to, we want to at least have the appearance of a vote.

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Oh, by the way, we've got to get a movie review. I was invited to go see a screening of Dumbo, which I'm really nervous about because it's one of my favorite movies. But also really excited about it. it too, right? Yes. I'm very worried about it though because it's Tim Burton and Tim Burton always misses the heart by this much. Just barely misses the mark. Uh, and he's saying this for years. This is one of the first like pop culture observations I can remember from you. Really? Yeah. You've always, every Tim Burton movie, you say the same thing. It's, but it's true. He's,

not every single time, but most time, 99% of the time. Like Edward Cisorhands. I think hit it. It hit the heart just right. Usually it just misses it. And you're like, well, no, no, all you had to do was just a little bit of this and it would have hit the heart. Dumbo is all about heart. And I couldn't go. They scheduled it twice and I just, I just couldn't make it.

So I sent Marissa, who is also a big Disney fan and Dumbo is one of your biggest, one of your favorite movies. Disney nerd would probably be a better... No, there is no Disney nerd. Thank you. Dumbo, I wouldn't say it's one of my favorites because it's so sad, just like Bambi. I'm not a fan of emotion quite like that. Oh, my gosh.

Well, I don't like Bambi either, but... The man in this scenario is the one who likes the crying. Oh, my gosh. Dumbo is so sweet. It was so sweet. Emotional. Was it good? Okay, so a lot of the reviews are saying it missed the mark.

I 100% disagree, though. I thought it was excellent. I thought it was excellent because did you see Beauty and the Beast, live action? Did you like it? It was boring because it was the exact same as the cartoon. So everyone's saying they don't like the new Dumbo because it's too different. But it's refreshing to have something different. I don't want the cartoon in real life form.

The shot for shot remake in real life form is not a good. I kind of like it sometimes. Sometimes I'm like, okay, but I kind of like that they're doing it, you know, right back to the original. I kind of really like that. Dumbo, though, you can't. It was only 70 minutes. It was a short. It was short.

So, yeah, it was 70 minutes. So you have to add more. And then, you know. And also the animals don't talk in this one. Right. The animals, the animals do talk. They don't talk in real life either, Marissa, just so you're aware. You don't know that.

And you have to, you have to dump a lot of dicey scenes. today like the crows. I mean, the crows are like... They didn't make it in the film. Yeah, I'm not surprised by that. I don't remember the crows. The crows are singing, I've seen and I've seen this fly. I've seen that fly and you're like, oh boy, this is not going to fly.

So yeah. So the black crows are not in this one. So you've changed it. But all I care about is the. heart between Dumbo and the mom. And his mom. It's still there. And I think it's unbelievable. Some people don't agree with me. My husband didn't agree with it. But I thought that the heart they gave Dumbo was just so the animation. It was like he was real. It blew my mind. Disney is killing it with the animation.

I think 70 minutes, you know what? Is enough for some movies, though. Let's be honest about it. Not Disney movies. For example, the new freak, I know this is my jihad in life. The new Avengers movie is three hours and two minutes. This is, you're not, no need, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I would agree with you. If they were doing, you know, Captain America, three hours, fine.

This is, you don't, you don't appreciate Marvel movies. This is all of the storylines coming together. That's what they do all the time. No, no, no, no, it's not. They have a giant blender, and they take all the action figures, and they throw it in and turn it out high, and that's every Marvel movie.

It's really not. All of the, three hours is 14 Marvel movies. That's how much. you all of the movies are have led to this one storyline yeah it's the greatest crossover event since I got no I just you can't tell it in I mean it's like telling the Lord of the Rings I hate to compare the two but it's like the Lord of the Rings it takes three hours to tell that story no it didn't it took way longer than three hours to tell that story they can this one is taking about five hours six movies that series I know I know and this one is you know it's

comic book so it's not exactly you know it's not Lord of the Rings so they're only doing it in five hours instead of how long are these 16 hours how long are these comic books is there longer than the black book of communism nobody's like I just don't understand because it's years it's decades of

stories they're telling what each movie feels like decades that's the problem wrong on that I will tell you though if I were Disney I would be freaking out right now on what Captain America has come out and said. Have you heard this?

Glenn, that's a movie. He's not even real. Yeah, I know. That's unbelievable. He is, you know, the nice thing about the Marvel movies is they're not political at all. They're not. And they have just good values and it's

just good. Captain America has said he feels guilty for not, not speaking out about politics. So he's going to start his own super pack and he's going to start speaking up. Shut up. I don't care if your super pack was for, you know, Donald Trump or against Donald.

Shut up, Captain America. Shut up. You're listening to Glenn Beck. Walt should be, he should be thawed and defrosted and brought back to life just to say that. Shut up. Anyway, let me tell you about, let me tell you about something that I think you really need because people are following you. And this is all going to surveillance capitalism. And every keystroke, every single keystroke you make can be found by Google and everybody else.

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This is the Glenn Beck program. For some reason, Glenn and Pat have decided to dedicate a segment once a week to helium Thursdays. This is a segment in which they discuss something while sounding like a segment. like they are on helium this week on helium Thursday, they discuss the Green New Deal. Hello, Pat. Hello, Glenn. I want to talk to you about the serious issue of global warming and the new green deal, or the Green New Deal, whichever, right.

So I don't know if anybody saw AOC's speech yesterday, but I believe that it needs to be taken seriously. and we're treating it with the utmost seriousness. So, may I quote, she said yesterday, people are dying. People are dying. And this is not an elitist issue.

This is a quality of life issue. You want to tell people that their concern and their desire for clean air, clean water is elitist? Tell that. to the kids in the South Bronx, which are suffering from the highest rates of childhood asthma in the country.

Tell that to the families in Flint who whose kids have their blood ascending in lead levels. Their brains are damaged for the rest of their lives. I didn't have anything to do with climate change, by the way. Call them elitist.

You're telling them that those kids are trying to get on to a plane to Davos? People are dying. They're dying. And the response from the other side of the aisle is to introduce an amendment for five minutes before a hearing in a markup. Will no one take this seriously? Can you take it more seriously than putting it up for a vote?

I don't think you can. I don't think you can. I noticed that Daisy Hirano, Daisy Head Maisie, she was asked if she wants to have it both ways because she didn't want the vote, but she is a co-sponsor of the bill. And so she was asked yesterday, even by Katie Turr on CNN,

if she's trying to have it both ways. Yes. And she said, no, this is an aspirational document. Oh. It's aspirational. I thought you wanted to pick a policy. Well, why would you put the bill together with all of the policies in it if it was just aspirational? Because I do know an aspirational document that they seem to hate.

It's one that says something like, uh, all men are created equal and endowed by their creator or something like that. If this is just aspirational, why don't you take that? document and stick it up your aspiration. That's my question to Daisy Head, Maisie. Well, we talk about cost. But we're going to pay for this, Santa Casio-Cortez, whether we do the new deal or not, because towns and cities are going underwater.

Which ones? I've missed that rapport. of them. There is Malibu. Is underwater? Pretty sure. There is, um, um, um, um, um, is Miami? Miami's got to be underwater. Atlanta is underwater. Atlanta. That's true. So, there's lots of them. Anyway, she says we're going to pay for them, and we're either going to decide if we're going to pay or react. Are we going to react and pay? or be proactive in pay. She says, I'm very sad that the government knew that climate change was real. Back in 1989, when NASA was reporting this,

and the private sector knew it even before. They knew it back in the 1970s. So we had to wait around until the time I was born to address this issue. Well, but in the 1970s, it was global cooling. Right? We were going into an ice age. I know that, so... We're just taking it...

Please, Pat. Are you taking this seriously? I am. I am. Very concerned. I wish it didn't have to cost so much. But too. I'm going to turn 30 this year. And for the entire 30 years of my lifetime, we did not make substantial investments to per tear our country

for what we know. is coming. So we have a choice now. Lower the cost now and pursue the new the green new deal or realize that it will cost far more if we do

not pass it. This has been Helium Thursdays on the Glenn Beck program. I don't know about you but I... Powerful. I think it's I think it's much more powerful. It is. It is. It's

At least you can deal with it. It gave that story the gravitas it deserves. Yes. Don't you think? Yes, because they're always saying that we just won't deal with things and we should deal with them. We should deal with them seriously. I think it is incredible that these clowns actually put a bill together and then, okay, let's pass it. All right.

We'll give it. When was the last time the Democrat said, okay. you guys created a bill. You did the border wall. Go ahead. Pass it. Let's vote on it right now. Right. They've never done that. No.

Never done that. I wish they would. I do too. Okay, great. Let's put everybody on record. Let's put everybody on record. Go ahead. And what does Acosio Cortez say? She says that she told everybody how to vote.

She said she told everybody that they had to vote. present. That was the way to do it. So are you telling me all you people running for president in the United States that Acosio Cortez is telling you how to vote? That's what she's saying, Democrats. Oh, my gosh. She's saying that she's telling you how to vote. God, I can't wait for this. I can't wait for this fall.

Oh, man. This is going to be so dramatic. Have you heard my snowball theory yet? Uh, yes, that the snowball has gotten so big and they're pushing it uphill and it's about to roll back on. Yes. Yes, because it's collecting all kinds of stuff where it's becoming, you know, I talked yesterday about the creepy valley or the uncanny valley.

Do you know what the uncanny valley is? No. Uncanny valley is a thing in CGI and animation, and we all have experienced it. For instance, you know, when you went to see the Polar Express, it was good, but it wasn't, it was just a little creepy. The Tom Hanks character was just a little. little creepy. Not creepy, but just a little bit. It wasn't off-putting. It was off-putting. It wasn't warm. It wasn't, you didn't want to embrace it. You know what I mean?

Yeah. It's because they were trying to make him look too human. That's why Pixar and everybody else, when they do CGI, they will make their eyes really big. They will distort the human features, because as you get closer to looking just like a human, there's something innate in us that says, ick when it's not exactly right we say ick there's something wrong with that and that's called the uncanny valley so as you get closer and closer to um you know having this human as cg i gets better and better and goes up this hill all of a sudden it reaches a point to where it's too close but not right and it plunges down and it creeps people out that's what's happening with the democrats right now they are the american people

are compassionate. They're fair. They don't want people to be racist. Nobody wants to be around Nazis. Nobody wants people to have sexual harassment. So they've done all these things, and they're getting closer and closer to, like, you know, the heart. And they're like, yeah, this is, this is, this is us.

This is us. This is us. And it's going up. And then all of a sudden, it goes too far. And you're like, oh, wait a minute. there's something really wrong here. And even if you can't put your foot, finger on it, it's just in all places. With abortion, it went compassion, compassion, compassion, compassion to, uh-oh, there's something

wrong here. I don't feel good about where this is headed. Same thing with Jesse Smollett. And we saw it with the Me Too movement with what's his name of the Supreme Court Justice. Kavanaugh. Kavanaugh. People were like, okay, no, this is a really good thing.

The Me Too movement, then it started to getting really creepy. And then it hit Kavanaugh and it fell apart. They're standing behind this giant snowball of social justice, green energy, all of this stuff. They've made this snowball. It kept getting bigger and bigger. And they're just about up at the top. And they're thinking, we're going to roll it down into that valley. And we're going to crush everybody.

But the snowball, I firmly believe, has stopped. It's not rolling back yet, but it's stopped. And they're pushing harder and harder and pushing more snow on it, more things on it. And they don't realize that that snowball, because they keep doing this, is going to roll back and crush them. What do you think of that? I think it's a pretty good analogy. I think that could happen. I hope it happens because otherwise we're doomed.

If that snowball goes over the top and down the other side, we're done. It's a real problem. Yeah, it's done. One way or another, it's going to wipe one way. or the other it's going to wipe everything out. It's either going to wipe out all this social justice. You know, there is there, there is no difference between male and female. There is no right and wrong.

It's all about social justice. Reverse the power pyramid of the most, you know, intersected being the most powerful. All of that. If it rolls down the hill towards us, they get to the top and it rolls down. That's the world we will have. But I have a feeling the American people are being creeped out by it. It's really hard to get anything meaningful out of this conversation without helium. Right. See, that's exactly right.

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But then I'd never do it because on the weekend, I want to just, I just want to. unplug and I don't want any heavy issues and I don't want to go to a movie that's heavy. This is not a heavy movie. I'm telling you it is the most bizarre thing. It will, no, no, no, wait, hear me out. It's the most bizarre thing. It will be one of the heaviest things that you and your family could ever talk about and witness, especially in that 22nd period.

And it will solidify your kids, absolutely solidify. Abortion is murder. However, you walk out. not heavy. It's not like watching Schindler's list or one of those movies that you're like, oh, this is going to be a dirge, but it's good for me. It's not. It's, you walk out feeling really good. It's really a positive movie all the way around. There are no, there, you know, the, the women going in for the abortion, they're not torn apart. The women working at the clinic, they're not torn apart. Uh, nobody, really, it's just, this is what this is.

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Jussie Smollett case? What does this mean to those who really would like to claim that there's a hate crime that's going on for political reasons? We're going to talk to him when we come back in one minute.

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How did you come up with this? What was your methodology? And what did you find? Good to be back on with you guys, by the way. Thank you. In a sentence, yeah. The pitch line for hate crime hoax is that very many, probably most, of the high profile widely publicized hate crime incidents that we've seen in the recent past have turned out

to be hoaxes. So we recently saw the complete collapse of the Jesse Smollett. case. Just a bit before that, my last appearance, we discussed Covington Catholic, where the claim was that this group of prep school athletes had surrounded this elderly Native American guy. They chanted build the wall. Odd thing to say to an Indian, they tried to take his drum away. But eastern Michigan, there was allegedly graffiti all over the campus targeting African American students. Air Force Academy where Jay Silberia literally came to the campus and spoke out against racism, one of our top generals. Grand Rapids where a young black woman claimed that white men urinated on her. University of Virginia where the fraternities were accused of holding these sort of underground story of O style rape rings.

Duke Lacrosse, Tijuana, Brawley. I mean, you could go back for decades with this. All of the cases that I just mentioned turned out not to have been real. And a couple of years ago, as a graduate student in Chicago, I became aware of this trend because I was actually involved in a hate crime hopes case. the bar Velvet Ultra Lounge, Velvet Rope Ultra Lounge, which was a very trendy. It was billed as a hipster bisexual nightlife experience, if I recall correctly, very Chicago. But this trendy bar that a couple of my friends and one of my ex-girlfriends would attend from time to time burned to the ground. This was I believe in 2013.

And the claim of the owner was that throughout the bar, there were written these horrendous anti-gay slurs, you know, gasoline. or some accelerant had been used to set the place on fire, he had been targeted with hate. So I sort of casually followed that case, like most young professionals in Chicago at the time. And as I did that, I became aware of another case, which involved a guy named Derek Cockalene at the University of Chicago. This was a student activist, typical cliche Guava-type campus radical,

but he claimed that his Facebook and Twitter page had been hacked. And these very violent messages threatening him with things that are never, okay, brutal rape and so on, had been sent to him by conservative students. So I was paying attention to both these cases, and there were a few others going on in the Midwest at the time. At Grand Valley State, a young black woman claimed that during Black History Month, someone had broken into her room, I believe, in written anti-black epithets on kind of the whiteboard that college students keep. At Michigan Tech, a white student was suspended for allegedly initially saying he was going to shoot all the black people on campus. It turned out he said he was going to shoot them a smile on Twitter.

that was photographed using screenshots. It was miscropped to make him look like a racist. But as I follow these local cases, they all collapsed. I mean, four or five big-name high-profile cases you can still find. In the Velvetge Ultra Lounge case, you had a bizarre situation where the owner apparently owed a lot of money to, in Chicago, perhaps people you wouldn't necessarily want to owe money to. He'd racked up a lot of debt.

And he'd just set the place on fire, burned it to the ground, and then claimed it was a hate crime. So held a fundraiser where he raised something like $30,000 paid off his debts and opened a new business. So the story that actually emerged was kind of a circus. As I understand, he owns a bar called Bonsai Bar in Chicago today. But following these cases and watching them collapse as they did, as I said at Michigan Tech, the student Matt Schultz, turned out to be a complete anti-racist Christian guy, as I recall, no racial prejudices. He had actually said, I'm going to shoot everyone a smile tomorrow to tone down these racial tensions. and a campus activist had taken that message, screenshot it, and cropped it to make him look like a shooter.

So after these cases all collapsed, I decided to use modern empirical methods, which I had access to at that time, data, the more advanced SPSS programs, you know, data crunching computers as I was a grad student at a good university, and see how frequent this stuff was. And as I graduated and I went into academia, I compiled a full list of these cases. I have 516 cases of hate crime hoax, and I put the books together. And that recently was published on February 26 with Regnery, a large conservative publisher. And I mean, you asked about methodology. A lot of it's simply looking, really using Google Scholar, Bing, Advanced JSTore, any of these resources to look for, you know, hate crime, 2016, 2017, pick up the cases that you see and then see how many of them survive to the end.

So I defined a fake hate crime as a case where there's a serious report, either mass media coverage or police report, about 93% of the time it was both, that turns out to have either never occurred or to have been staged by the quote-unquote victim or to have been committed by people very, very differently from those originally alleged to have committed it. And they're not infrequent. Kind of last point here, but I will say I'm not the only person ever to research this. It just until this book had been almost an underground thing. You had www.w.w.fakehatecrimes.org. That's a great resource, but that's just an internet site hosted by a couple of independent researchers. You have the fake hate map, but that, as I recall, is on Reddit, or it was taken off Reddit, now it has its own site. But again, that's not affiliated with a university.

But I looked through those resources, and I compared them to my list, and I found it in most of the cases on those lists were also real. They were hoaxes that had occurred. They just hadn't been widely documented. So using all those tools basically in a sentence, I put the book together, I sold it, and the response to it has been good. Okay, so how common are these? What is the percentage of hate crimes that are hoaxes? I'm going to give an estimate, but it's actually a bit difficult to estimate that. So over, most of my cases are concentrated in a period of about five years. I did a lot of research in 2017, as I started, I started in grad school around 2012. So you've got 516 cases concentrated very high.

heavily between 2012 and 2017. What an opponent would say, someone who argues that there are a lot of hate crimes, is, well, there are 7,000 hate crimes reported every year, so that's still only 5% or whatever it might be of the cases. There are two issues with that. First of all, only about one in 10 hate crime cases is nationally reported, to the extent where a researcher like myself could ethically see a story where it begins and a story where it ends and put it in the data set. So I'm really looking at about 700 cases a year, not 7,000. It would even be available to me, where you've had that kind of media coverage. So, I mean, first of all, the most baseline estimate would be, okay, 516 out of, you know, seven times five out of 3,500. But that brings in some other questions,

though. When you look at hate crime reports, in the case of most crimes, if you're talking about murder, it's hard to ignore a corpse, if you're talking about burglary where there's someone in your house, the number of reports is pretty much equivalent to the, you know, the number of reports is pretty much equivalent to the number of crimes. With hate crimes, that doesn't really seem to be true. So there are 7,000 reports in a typical year, but the rate of conviction in hate crime cases seems to be between 5 and 10%. So in California, in the most recent year on record, which is 2016, you had 931 reported hate crimes, most on college campuses, which I think is interesting. But of those only 220 were shot along by the police to the prosecution, which is a very basic standard that means we have a suspect and we believe this wasn't a hoax.

We have any kind of suspect and this probably happened. Of those, only 51 led to a conviction and that includes all plea bargains. So I guess my numbers would be over five years, you're looking at 3,500 nationally reported cases. I've got, say, because they're not all in this period, 450 hoaxes. That's a rate of, say, 15%. But the real comparison to me would be between hoaxes and convictions. So, I mean, if those 3,500 cases produce 350 convictions, the final number would be you have 350 convictions and 450 hoaxes. So there's a very high rate of hoaxing in this field.

I don't think anyone, the numbers there are a little estimated, but pretty much on point. Like, I don't think anyone could dispute. There are a large number of these. So I'm going to take a one minute break, and then I'm going to come back, and I want to talk to you, Is there any tell that happens in these fake hoaxes? Do they have anything in common? But also what I'm going to bring it back to Chicago. And I'll start here.

The Jesse Smollett case, with him being, he says vindicated. And with half the country, I don't even think half the country, with 20% of the country, they'll look at it as vindication. and the other will not. What are the ramifications of that? And what does that tell somebody else who is prone to be a hate crime hoaxer? We'll continue the conversation here in just a second. This is Dr. Will Riley.

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I think what Jesse Smollett, Dr. Everybody is, you know, everybody's looking at this. And I don't want to judge, but it looks pretty bad for Jesse Smollett. I mean, it really looks pretty open and shut. I don't know what happened in Chicago, but here's what I'm concerned about.

It's not as much with Jesse or Jesse. It's much more to me about what does this say about justice in our country? you know, we don't want to do anything that makes people feel like you can get away with it or somebody else can get away with it because of their wealth or their status or their color. Yeah, I mean, I think at the most basic economic level, if you encourage bad behavior, you get more of it. Is it, do you think what's happening in Chicago is encouraging it? I do, to be fair. To put it politely, I think that the decision to drop the.

Smollett charges was a very questionable legal decision. So, I mean, in this case, there was literally a video of the two Nigerian brothers involved in the case, that the Osundariel brothers, buying red hats and ski masks and pieces of knotted rope a few days before the assault. And this isn't me talking as a political commentator. I mean, you can literally find that by Googling, video shows brothers linked to Smolet attack buying all items. That's from National CBS.

It's still live on YouTube. The brothers themselves say that Jussie Smollett paid them to commit the attack. They have a $3,500 signed check from Jussie Smollett for something like physical development. I mean, it's not my initial impression looking at this was this is the strongest criminal case I've seen since O.J. Simpson, which became very ironic the next day. But I mean, the prosecution in this case, it's worth noting, they've stated bluntly that whatever he might say, that's their quote, They did not acquit Jossie Smollett. Smollett still had to pay at least $10,000 in bond. He forfeited all of the money that he had with the state.

He was given credit for some pretty substantial community service in the past. He might have to do more. The technique used to terminate the case was what's called a no lay prosecki. That's not a not guilty. It's not any kind of acquittal. It's a technical dismissal that's often used with guilty defendants. And, I mean, you literally saw this incredible scene where the deputy prosecutor, who was probably told to drop these charges by his boss,

sort of disgustedly said, no, we still think he's guilty. And then across town, Eddie Johnson, good cop, stood up and said, Chicago's police superintendent, this is a travesty of justice. Rahm Emanuel, who's the leftist Democratic mayor of the city,

said this is one of the most ridiculous decisions he's ever seen. So there's no chance that Jesse Smollett did not do this. The real question is, why was the decision made to drop all charges against a guilty man, essentially. It's interesting, Doctor, when we went back and the story initially happened, we thought to ourselves, this seems to happen a lot, particularly with Trump supporters in which they're accused of doing these sort of hate crimes, and then we would find out later that

they're hoaxes. And so we went back and pulled a bunch of these stories, and, you know, we saw that pattern very clearly. However, one pattern I didn't really expect to see was how many of the people who were caught in hoax wound up having little to no punishment for perpetrating the hoax. Is that common? Because part of me thinks that this Smollett story and the way they've treated it

isn't quite as uncommon as we may have thought. Well, I mean, I mentioned just in kind of the intro or the brief monologue there. I mentioned about 12 of these cases. So now the only thing that is notable about Jussie Smollett

is that he happened to be a very famous man. He was the second lead on Empire. And he described something so cinematic that this became a national or international story. But in every other respect, normal, middle-class taxpayer, either leftist or nowadays sometimes alt-right, claims that a ridiculous thing happens, garners local or even regional media attention, and then is exposed as a hoaxer and nothing happens.

That is the pattern for hate crime hoaxes, in fact. Very rarely are people punished in these cases. Generally, when someone is punished, what I saw, I believe, 74% of the time was that they received, this is in case there was any punishment at all. They receive a single misdemeanor charge of something like false report, disorderly conduct. That's how that would generally be treated. You see the same thing in many fake false sexual assault cases.

Very rarely is someone charged with the equivalent of what they claimed happened. In Jesse Smollett's case, he was, but the charges were almost immediately dismissed. And as you said, I mean, the line in the law is that justice has to be blind but also has to carry a sword. So be fair, but also be ruthless enough to keep. the public peace. And when you do see something like the dismissal of 16 felony counts, you have to question whether that's happened, but it's not uncommon. No, because it's interesting, we have this situation where the glory of being a victim in our society today seems to be so high. The incentive to become a victim is now something in the American culture for whatever

reason. And yet we don't disincentivize people from faking it because we never, we never seem to punish that behavior. I mean, that, that is, that's a weird, structure for incentives, and I think it's creating a lot of this, isn't it? Yes. Well, I think the two phenomena tie together. So, I mean, first of all, you're absolutely right that American culture glorifies victimhood, which is odd. Really? Opposite of us. Yeah, well, when you look at a hero story, you're not supposed to cheer for the dragon, but you're also not supposed to cheer for the prince or princess tied to the rock. You're supposed

to cheer for the hero. Being a victim is a temporary situation that you fight your hardest to escape. I was poor of the young man. Now I'm not. And that's the tradition. understanding of victimhood. I do think that because of this idea of intersectionality, and now we're almost getting into philosophy, but intersectionality on the activist left, it'd be more oppressed you are, the more right you have to talk, the more value your lived experience has. Ben Shapiro, the conservative commentator, has done some good monologues about this. Because of that idea, I do think that victimhood itself has gained kind of a premium.

In terms of not punishing people for faking victimhood, I think that type of. to the idea that victimhood is valuable. Because so many hate hoaxers do happen to be on the political left, because many happen to be people of color, the question that's often asked is, do we want to prosecute? Do we want a bunch of big upper middle class, white and black guys and suits and police uniforms, shouting at this person that's in some victim group that claimed they were abused, that's now going to say they have a drug problem, that's now going to say they were mentally ill, that's going to drag the trial out as painfully as possible, do we want to be in that position?

So very often what you see is a bunch of big cops just disgustedly giving up. This is literally Eddie Johnson when we start crumpling his head, just giving up and saying, okay. And that is a problem. That is a real problem. Dr. Wilfred Riley, author of Hate Crime Hoax. Thanks for being on back in a minute. You're listening to Glenn Beck. Okay, several years ago I started talking about what was coming in the economy and it turned out to be fairly right.

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They will eventually, when they coalesce around somebody, then they will run to the right. Who do you believe? When you can't believe the media and you don't really know what the hell is going on, what is really happening? And when it comes to health care, this is. costing us so much money as individuals businesses are struggling people are struggling there is real pain and our our health care system is so screwed up now that it's far worse than it's ever been and we're i think the people in washington are going to kill it now there's a story that came out

earlier that showed that Donald Trump said hey we've got to be the party of health care i don't even know what that means. We should be the party of the free market. That's the way to fix it. Really open up the free market. But I don't think anybody's really talking about that. And there is a court case that I'm not sure if people are just hyping this because they think it'll get votes or if it's real. But Texas has decided to sue and say, you know, the individual mandate, you said, the court said it was not a fee, it was a tax, and because it was a tax, it's constitutional. The Obama administration said, and by the way, if you get rid of the mandate, then you get rid of the entire health care system because it doesn't work and the whole thing collapses.

So Texas is saying, well, there is no tax because it's zero, so there is no mandate. We should abolish all of it. California, of course, is coming out, blah, blah, blah. Donald Trump has said that he is not going to go to court and defend Obamacare. Is this a big deal? What does it all mean? The other part of my job is to try to figure it out and bring in the people who actually follow this for a living and know it. Philip Klein is an expert on this.

He's an executive editor at the Washington Examiner. He's also an author of Overcoming Obamacare. what is really happening, Philip? Well, there are a few things happening. I think it's pretty clear that what happened is that Republicans through four election cycles promised that they were going to repeal and replace Obamacare. And when they had a chance to do it, they couldn't. At the time, I said this was the biggest broken promise in American history,

because never before had you had a promise that office holders, in one party at every level of government, state, local, federal, said we're going to repeal this thing, and then they had a chance and they didn't do it. And now that President Trump is in re-election mode, he recognizes that this is a big problem that he didn't deliver on his promise to repeal and replace. And so because Democrats control the House, there's not much you can do. So now he's looking to the court. I think that this particular case, and I've written a lot about it, I was a big proponent of the challenge to Obamacare in 2012, and I was outraged by Chief Justice Roberts' decision. But in this case, I think the argument is much weaker,

and I don't think that it really has a chance at the Supreme Court because the fact that they'd need John Roberts to sign on to it. And if he refused to overturn Obamacare, the mandate had a penalty attached, and it had more coercive power. And even he found a way to rule that that's constitutional, now that the taxes, you know, zero dollars. It's very doubtful that he's going to somehow revisit that and say he wants to overturn it, particularly because in 2012, when the Supreme Court originally heard the case, nobody had benefited from Obamacare yet. There was, you know, the exchange didn't open until 2014. So at that point, they could have struck down Obamacare and it wouldn't have harmed anyone.

Now, if the Supreme Court were going to strike it down, then millions of people who receive benefits would lose those benefits. Now, you and I have a different view of what government's power should be, but the reality is that that's going to weigh on John Roberts. He found a way to say ObamaCare the first time. He's not going to destroy it now that millions of people depend on it for a case that is a weaker illegal argument. What do you think, Philip, about the way he handled this.

There's a story now that's come out that John Roberts, I mean, he contorted himself into a pretzel and changed his mind. All the things that we had heard rumor of now been verified that he was looking at the image of the court and not the actual law. He just wanted to save the and protect the image of the court. that that to me is impeachable as a Supreme Court justice. Go ahead. I mean, there's this new book out, and I wrote something on it because it's a biography of John Roberts at its time on the Supreme Court,

and there's a chapter on his deliberations in Obamacare. And what was pretty revealing to me is that if you read the book, if you trust this, account, then effectively he treated the Supreme Court like a legislative body. And there are many points in the book where it says he was conflicted between his head and his heart. What his head said, you know, the law said versus the idea of overturning a law that was meant to address the health insurance crisis. And when they first voted on the law, it, of course,

according to the book, Roberts voted to overturn the individual mandate and actually uphold the Medicaid expansion. And the actual decision ended up being the opposite because of all the horse trading that went on. The other conservatives on the bench thought that all of Obamacare had to go with the mandate went. He was, Roberts was uncomfortable with that, so he went to the liberals and said, okay, if I say that it's okay as a tax, will you sign on to overturning the Medicaid portion?

So effectively, the way it seems as though he decided that he wanted to overturn part of Obamacare, but substantially keep it intact, and then he reversed engineered a legal argument to get to that point and negotiated with the various justices to get agreement on that, as opposed to just narrowly being dictated by what is the law say and what is this allowable under the Constitution? And I think that's very worrisome. When you look at the future and, you know, the reason why I think, my personal opinion, the GOP didn't get rid of Obamacare is because they didn't have it a replacement. And they are looking at repeal and replace. I don't want it replaced.

I want the free market opened up. I want the laws that have made this a very profitable game for some people to go away. Let me buy insurance across state lines, et cetera, et cetera, just open up the free market. Donald Trump, when he says, we have to be the party of health care. What do you think that means? And what do the people, is there anybody that is looking at the free market? Is that a chance of ever coming back, in your opinion? I think it's very unlikely. Look, in 2015, I saw all of this coming, and I wrote my book, Overcoming Obamacare.

And what that did is it said, right now the rights divided on Obamacare. There's plenty of plans out there, contrary to the myth that Republicans don't have a plan. In actuality, there were a lot of plans. There were too many. Nobody could agree on one single approach. So I said, okay, here are the three basic approaches, ranging. from reforming Obamacare to make it less restrictive to what you're saying,

which I said, let's restart and move in a purely few market direction and completely scrap it, right? And I said here are basically the three different paths you can choose. And Republicans have to decide on this and fight this out among themselves now

so that when they have a position, when they're in a position to do something, they could hit the ground running. Obviously, they didn't take my advice, and all of the fight that I predicted several years in advance played out, and nothing was agreed on. And so I think it's a real problem, and it continues to be the problem, because say what you want about the Democrats, they know what they want to do. They want to take over everyone's health care.

They want the private insurers out of it. They want one single government insurer. and they want that insurer to dictate prices, doctors, and hospitals, and everyone to be on the same plan. We know what they want, and they're very clear about it, and the only argument on the left is how quickly they can get there. On the right, there is this sort of disagreement because you have people that are trying to be Democratic light, and they're trying to say, well, let's expand Medicaid a little less, let's, you know, provide a little fewer subsidies, and the argument I made during the whole repeal debate is, look, the bill that you're writing that's trying to make all these accommodations to the left is a 20% support. It's getting attacked by the left and, you know, the media.

So why not go to an actual free market plan that's going to reduce people's premiums? If you said that we're going to have a plan that allows people to purchase the type of health insurance that they want, it would be a two, totally you know we'd have a totally different that's the problem is that we have a system in which people think you the government or their employer are picking everything up so the normal free market mechanism that work in every other part of the free market uh...

you know aren't applicable to health care for that reason the you know i make the example of my book like look at the you know look at the you know look at an i think on, right? In, you know, 20 years ago, there was this famous meme on the internet a few years back where it showed a Radio Shack ad from the 1990s, and it had a video camera and a answering machine and a telephone and an alarm clock and all of these things that you could now carry around in your pocket because there is competition for people to make, to innovate and to, you know,

uh... find a way to bring down prices and increase quality over time and the you know the power of what i carry around in my pocket is drastically different from you know what existed within my own lifetime and there's no reason that that type of innovation can happen in health care

beyond the fact that we have a system in which everything is rigged from the top down and where government that's all the rules or everything has to be rigged through the employer. People don't have any choice of what type of insurance they have. And if Republicans don't rally around the plan, I could tell you exactly what's going to happen. You're going to have Democrats

take over, if not in 2021, then in 2025 someday, and they're going to want to go in the direction of single payer. They may not get there overnight, but they'll try to, you know, they'll expand Obamacare. They'll end what's, you know, a government

and planned to Obamacare and rig the games so that millions and millions of people shift over to that. That's what the argument is on the left right now. Philip Klein, executive editor of Washington Examiner, also the author of Overcoming Obamacare. Thanks so much for talking to me. I want to play something because what he just said is in 2021 or 2025, they will take over.

And the way he said it reminded me of the Trojan horse audio. Now, this is such important audio. This is what we played at Fox, and it was inside the left. Who was this, Stu, do you remember? Jacob, something from the Tides Foundation. Yeah, and he was talking to a group of leftist and policy makers, and he was talking about Obamacare and how we are going to do Obamacare, but don't worry about Obamacare.

Come together. Now, where are the secret meetings of us saying, okay, we're going to do this, but don't worry, it's a Trojan horse to get us back to a free market. Are there anybody that actually believes in that anymore? Listen to what they said. We played this. We talked about it almost every night for almost a year, and it was dismissed. Listen to it.

Someone once said to me, this is a Trojan horse for a single pair. And I said, well, it's not a Trojan horse, right? It's just right there. I'm telling you, we're going to get there over time, slowly. but we'll move away from reliance on employment-based health insurance, as we should, but we'll do it in a way that we're not going to frighten people into thinking they're going to lose their private insurance. We're going to give them a choice of public and private insurance when they're in the pool, and we're going to let them keep their private employment-based insurance if their employer continues to provide it.

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We talked about a little bit yesterday. Also, I don't know about you to. Tax Day is coming up. Oh, I feel super charitable today. Don't you feel charitable? Don't you feel like a good, good person that you're doing your American duty? And you can just pay all this in taxes. And I just feel like, oh, I'm giving the world a big hug every April 15th.

To be clear, I don't feel like I'm getting screwed. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know, no, I understand. No, we're talking charity, and we'll get into that in 60 seconds. This is the Glenn Beck program. There's a new way to avoid pain, Glenn. Really? Yeah.

New way. And you might think, what about sticking needles into me? Would that be a good way to avoid pain? I know a lot of people are on that bandwagon. No. But I want to make sure. You mean like getting a shot? Right, like, yeah, getting a shot.

That's a great way to avoid pain. Yeah. However, you might think, well, what if that needle is lubricated? That might not work. Well, that's, that's a shot. That's why they have dry needling. If you could just get that needle to be dry when they stick it into you, that is the new way to avoid pain. Well, it is dry, isn't it?

I mean, I don't know what they're coating it with. Luckily, nothing. Nice and dry. Nice dry needles. The therapy has small needles injected into the areas of the muscle and will supposedly relieve your pain. I don't know if that's going to work. Just a whole bunch of needles just right into your... Right into your body.

Perfect. Yep. You can try that. That's like if you have a bad headache. I tell my wife all the time, I'll punch you in the stomach and you won't think about your head anymore. How about that? No, doesn't work. Doesn't work. No. Although she usually hits me. I'm an abuse. Help me. I'm abused. Anyway, relief factor. If you want to get out of pain, relief factor. Relief factor.com, try it. It's working for me.

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For my charity. I want to, I'll throw it over. Throw it over to you on there. There is. Look at that. Oh my gosh. Now, this should not piss you off. If you lived in my,

in my town, this would not piss you off. That is a nice coin. It's a nice coin. What is a challenge? Challenge coins. And I guess it comes from the fire station in your town. Yes. Wow, this is really nice.

It's nicer than almost any. It's nicer than the challenge coin I have received from presidents. It is really nice. It's heavy. It's beautiful. All carved with a new firehouse on it. Yeah, they have an actual engraving of it. And it looks like a very large firehouse.

Well, it is. It is. It is. It's very good. Could throw it back over here because this is, this is just my, this is my reward for being charitable. And every family got one. Now, well, they didn't just come in the mail. We got an invitation of very slick, full color, nicer than some wedding invitations I've ever received. Everybody in my town got one. Now, remember when you were doing wedding invitations and you were thinking, oh my gosh, this price of these things is going to kill. kill me. And you were like, I can't send out any more invitations because we can't afford just the invitations, let alone the food. Right. My town, everyone in my town got one. And it was for the grand opening of a brand new firehouse. Now, why would you want to be invited to the opening of a firehouse? Well, you haven't seen a firehouse till you've seen this one. this firehouse, this firehouse, if it costs 10 million, it cost a dime. Okay.

And I've gone to the firehouse. Now, I want to make it very clear. I have nothing wrong with the firefighters. I want the firefighters to, currently they've been in this like this metal shack. Okay. They've been in there ever since I've lived there. I drive by it and I'm like, come on, guys, we can treat our firemen a little better than this, can't we?

But they've gone from a metal shack. to I am not making this up a a firehouse nicer than my house or anyone I know in the neighborhood. Okay. And I live in a nice neighborhood. Stu, you've been to my house. Yes. But did we did the builder chintz on anything in our house? No, it's very nice.

Very nice. Very nice. Very nice. Now, this fireplace or this firehouse has, it's, it's, very nice. It has a movie theater in it with the automatic blinds that come down. And

well you're really manual blinds. No, you wouldn't want that. No. Beautiful leather seats. Now, this is high quality leather. These are beautiful seats. And the seats where the head rest is all embroidered with the fire seal and the fire, you know, the badge. Uh, on every single. seat. I don't have a movie

theater in my house. I don't have those kinds of seats in my house. And if I did have those kinds of seats, I don't think I could afford to have them embroidered every single one. With the logo of the firehouse. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

It has this beautiful wolf stove in it. And again, I don't, I mean, you want an industrial stove, but it has top of the line everything. Now, here Here's my problem. This firehouse literally is nicer than my home. Much nicer than my home.

Okay. If anybody saw my home up for sale, A, it's not cheap. And B, it's nice. This is far nicer. Are you looking at pictures on the internet? Yes, I'm doing some research. Yeah. Far nicer than my home.

It has a bistro. in it. A bistro. A bistro. Not a vending machine. No, it has a bistro in it. It's nice to have a vending machine if you're working there for a long time. This has a bistro. Soda machine maybe. Yeah. No, it has a full kitchen off to the side, but it also has a bistro where you could come in and have coffee and pastries and maybe a little sandwich. Okay. You know, it has a beautiful patio with a fireplace and outdoor televisions and it's just great. Nobody's getting into the firehouse. I mean, because you might want to rob, oh, I don't know, anything in this firehouse. So you can only get in with biometric prints. So every door is a fingerprint lock.

Because someone might break into the fire. I don't know. I don't know. But every lock is a fingerprint lock. Okay. This thing is the doors of this firehouse. The door, when I, when I rebuilt our, house up in Idaho. These people trying to gouge us, they were like, well, these doors are the best doors and the best blah, blah, blah.

And I'm like, well, how much are they? And they're like, oh, they're $1,500 a door. And I'm like, I can get him for a hundred bucks. Let me go to a reclamation side.

I'm going to get a bunch of old doors. Well, they won't match. Well, neither do all my kids. So what the hell? These doors, just the doors.

Yeah. Of the firehouse, They have these big, beautiful red doors. And don't get me wrong. It's beautiful. And don't get me wrong. I'm glad the firemen have a place. You do not have to do this disclaimer set with us.

Let me tell you something. Because this is one of those things they do. They build these Taj Mahal schools. And if you oppose, as Pat is, there's one, Pat, O's references that has two separate arboretums inside of it. Yes. And it's like, if you say, well, is one arboretum enough, you hate children. Yes.

Is, is, you know, the nicest doors you ever seen in the world. old appropriate for a firehouse, you hate firemen. Yeah, and I don't. I love firemen. They're heroes. They're heroes. I don't want them in that metal piece of crap. But here's my problem. I have less problem with the actual firehouse than I do with the city. Here's what happened. They had an open house where they sent us invitations. And I couldn't make it. But my son-in-law went to claim my coin. and he went on a tour. And this is what was actually said by the person giving the tour.

No expense was spared here. No expense was spared here. First of all, I know that. I walked around while you were building it. I walked around and looked through the dusty windows and went, I want to live here. I'm thinking about becoming a fireman so I can live there three days a week. I'll live in a cardboard box for four if I can live there three days a week.

It's unbelievable. There's no bunk beds. Everybody has their own like suite with their own bathroom in it. There's an outdoor atrium? Yes. That seems pretty nice. Yes. But I will say now look, now look, when they started planning it.

Yes. It was 15,800 square feet. Yes. And you might think to yourself, that's not big enough for a, fire station. I thought we had four fire engines. Right. Well, no. It's now it's, it was upgraded to 18,000 square feet before it was done. Uh-huh. And, uh, you know, you do have six fire engines, six. Oh, we have six. However, three are reserve. So technically really using three. Right. At any given time. And that's the thing I think is, is odd.

This is not Chicago we're talking about here with a fireplay. No, this is a very small town. Right. And so you're at, you're now at 3,000 square feet per fire engine. Right. Which is, that's a big fire engine. I see as high. Yeah. Yeah. So now remember, this is the town that would not, would not even listen to my argument when we went to the tax assessor. And they said, well, you have, you have almost four acres of property. And your neighbors all have one acre of property. And their home is. on one acre, so you could subdivide, which I can't because my house is not high, it's long, you could subdivide and you could have four houses. So we're going to charge you four times as much. But you don't have the four houses. But I don't have the four houses. I don't have the four houses. I have one house. This is how you pay for a really nice fire station. This is how you pay for this fire station. And I'm, so I'm, I'm just, I'm outraged that, quote, no expense was spared. And,

And, you know, we could come and we were, did anyone say thank you? That was my question to my son-in-law. Did anyone from the town when they were giving these speeches say, thank you for allowing us to live off of your hard work in a style that you don't even live in? Thank you for that. So you hate firemen. Wow, that's an amazing admission. No, I hate this city. This city is driving me.

out of my mind because and and you know what my neighbors i want to go door to door and say what the hell is wrong with you you were walking around taking those tours and you didn't realize that that was your money no and surely they voted for it at some of course they did of course they did of course they did we need a new firehouse i'm for a new firehouse they were living in a literal metal shack they had their firehouse it was a metal barn now Now, there's nothing wrong with metal barns. We can do a little better than that. And it's very hot in Texas.

And the barn looked like it was made in 1965. But my God, they don't have to live in a house nicer than any house of anyone I know. They are building a house, you know, about three blocks away. And somebody's building it on spec. It's 15,000 square feet. It's going to be over 15,000 square feet. It's a $10 million spec house. It's insanity.

Wow. It's insanity. The firehouse is nicer and bigger than that. What the hell? And by the way, both true. Because when it was only 15,800 square feet, the estimate of the cost was $8.9 million. Now, of course, they built an extra home.

I don't want to know. on top of the 15,800 square feet. So you know it's a lot higher than that at the final cost. How much it costs? I have not done it. Also did not include the cost of the land. Oh my gosh. Which was donated,

which was another $2 million. So you're at about $11 million of the old size. And that was an initial estimate. My guess is what? 15 million? Now, this is the town. I know it's over 10 million. It's got to be over 10 million.

It is the nicest. Everyone who has driven by it. because I drive by people will come to, you know, visitors to somebody say, you got to drive by this. Tell me what you think this building is. And they're like, good Lord,

look at that. It's everyone has said, nicest firehouse they've ever seen in their lifetime. I've never seen anything like it. You know how you watch movies and people are living in these great houses and you're like, look at that dream house.

This firehouse is nicer. I'd have my kids wedding at that. firehouse. Dear God, I'm going to do that. I'm going to do. I demand. I don't even, I'm going to marry off my kids young just to piss them off. I, not the kids, the firehouse. I'm going to, I'm my wedding there. My wife and I are going to be remarried at that damn firehouse. I'm getting some money's worth out of that thing. Oh my gosh. It just, and nobody looks at it. They're all like, oh, this is great. This is so great for our town. Oh, I. So great for our town. So with us. It's your monthly. It's your, well, it's a lot of Pat because this is the road that Pat is always stopped on.

Yeah, this is actually them spending the Pat Gray dividend of all the speeding tickets. Literally, this, my town gives out more speeding tickets than anyone else, any other town in all of Texas. If you haven't looked at a map lately, some big towns in Texas. It's a big state. Okay. I have a little town in a very big state. we give out more speeding tickets than anyone else. I'm probably going to get one on the way home tonight. Oh, I'm sure now.

The firemen will be like, you know, citizens arrest. And again, I have no problem. Our police department is great. Our fire department is great. I put our police, our alarm system, I don't know. Maybe I should call the firehouse and see if I can get one of their alarm systems that they put in the firehouse. I put in a great alarm system for the, for, for, for fire and stuff.

It's like racks of equipment. Damn things going off. Every time we leave town, damn things going off. And I hear, oh, the police are at the house. Oh, Jesus, so I respect the police. I honor the police.

I honor the fire department. But in all of, in everything that is good and sacred, can we stop spending other people's money? That's amazing. I have the same. I have 10 of these same stories. I'm more mad at my neighbors.

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Let me give you my version of this same story in my town. They're building a Taj Mahal, apparently, which is, it's built as a recreation center. Okay. A beautiful new recreation center that costs millions and millions and millions of dollars. Seemingly all of that I think I paid for. I look at my tax bill. And so, and this is an amazing thing because it's the neighbors that really frustrate me more than anything else. They build this. Now, first of all, there is a facility nearby, which is incredibly similar to this new recreational facility they have.

It's a gym, it's a pool, it's got water slides. It's got, literally, people don't have any idea. Texas has gone insane. Their rec centers have water slides. Yeah, they're amazing. It's incredible. And they're great. They are. Now, if you happen to be, the private business man who invested millions of their own dollars to launch a very similar product several years beforehand. Literally, literally in the same zip code right down the street. Right. Assuming they were coming in to compete maybe against other private business people who might try to launch a competing gym or recreation center.

But instead, the town you're paying taxes to launches your competitor. Okay. So they launch a new facility, which of course they spare no expense on. It's bigger. It's newer. It's nicer. Right. And then after the, after they take the gall to take all of these tax dollars and dump it into a place, which we already have in the town, they then have the gall to charge us to be members for it.

Oh my gosh. And you know what the reaction is from every person I've talked to in my town about this? No. Did you see how low the prices are for membership? The prices are so low. It's much lower than that other place. Well, first of all, how bad is that that a local government comes in, it undercuts a private business that is already in place?

And you know what? For a not necessary need, either, by the way. And businesses is where they get their tax base. It's not from the homes. They all want every single highway in Texas. You can't build your home. near that because the towns are all saying, no, there's a huge highway coming here, and this is all going to be businesses.

And that's where they get most of their money. For the towns to go into business in freaking Texas. What the hell is happening? What is happening? And then it's like, oh, it's so wonderful. The prices are lower than the other place. Well, you first of all paid for all of it. The prices aren't lower.

You've paid them thousands of dollars. It should be free. It should be free. They should be paying you to go. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. But don't forget, next week, next couple of weeks, we'll all feel charitable on tax days. It's charity. It's good. You're listening to Glenn Beck. Okay. Let me tell you about what the IRS is warning taxpayers about, businesses, tax professionals. watch out for predators fishing for personal information during tax season. Because if scammers get the hands on your data or a previous tax return,

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I paid for that firehouse you're talking about. No, you didn't. The Packeray dividend. Yes. That's what they call us. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. I'll show you my property tax. No, you didn't.

You maybe bought the stove, but I bought the movie theater. I bought the end suite, uh, uh, live in quarters for everyone. I mean, how much did just this coin cost that Tim got at the grand opening? I mean, just sending this to 800 or 900 residents of your time? Wait, wait, wait. Yeah. Wait, wait. Mm-hmm.

Wait, what? There's something like 900 residents of your town. 900. No, my town's bigger than that. And that's why you need. No. Is my town bigger than that? Everything here kind of bleeds into itself.

How big is my town? We have a $15 million dollar firehouse. How big of a firehouse does this town need? You're telling me it's smaller than I thought. I thought we were like 20,000 people. Oh, no. Now, no, we're near. It is nowhere.

We have a 15. What is the population of my town? No, it's definitely bigger than what Pat's saying. It's not 900 people, but it is 992 people. Oh my God. Oh my gosh. It's 992. We have a $15 million firehouse for 992 people.

But the good thing about that is it's only $15,000 per person. And that includes children. Oh, that's not bad at all. That's not bad. That's good value. Now, I will say it is, on the other hand, though, You look at it, it is 6.7 square miles. Oh, wow.

So that is only 2.14 million per square mile. You guys try to kill me. I will explode. I'm going to explode. My town is only six square miles? Six square miles. Six square miles. And I have a 15 million.

I am going to town council meetings right now. I am going to the next town council meeting. I can't. Are you? kidding me we are six square miles and we have a 15 million dollar firehouse it's only 2.14 million per square mile that's not bad that that's not bad and I will tell you this it's a well policed six point four square miles yes it is it is I will tell you I will tell you this is the only town that I've ever lived in I mean the police are they are on it remember when we

had this string of robberies and they were sophisticated robberies they were they were they were scoping these houses. We first moved here. They had so, they were so sophisticated that they stayed in one house for almost two days to rob it completely. Didn't they remove the safe from the foundation? Yes, from the foundation. I mean, it was that these guys, the police department, boom, they got them. I mean, they are good.

They're good. They are really good. Sure. They probably should be. Can we do, please, we don't have to build a new police station too, do we? Oh, of course you do. Because this is not a police station, fire station. This is just the firehouse.

And by the way, again, in case you missed it, there's only three currently used fire trucks for the town. No, they're not used. They're not used very often. Yeah, they are beautiful. And, you know, there is a lot of open space in this town. And I've never heard. of a fire in the town. Has there ever been a fire there?

Did they need any fire department? Couldn't they be serviced by my town's fire department? At least my town has 45,000 people in it. You know, 922 people. I'm not putting a scratch on those fire trucks. Not to help the riffraff like you in the next town hall. No, no, you're not going to the slums with your beautiful fire trucks. They're not coming my way.

That's unbelievable. It's incredible. There was a town hall meeting. about this firehouse, uh, firehouse before it was constructed, which happened just a couple of weeks before the 2016 election when everyone was super focused on local fire truck issues.

Wow. Is that when they did it? That's what it happened. And you didn't attend, did you? No, you're not involved in local government and therefore this is your fault. You know what?

Honestly, this is what happens. Honestly, you know, now that I know there's only 900 of us, I'm just going to have start having more children. And then we'll just all attend because I could change this town. 900 people. We can change this town. I thought it was much bigger than that. And I tell you,

we have one of the nicest schools, literally one of the nicest schools in the nation. People, people will move into my town, which I thought was strangely much bigger. So I don't know how people do it. But they move into the town just to be able to attend this school. And I mean, they'll move anywhere from the country into this town. Because you get full access to the academy. I'm not sending me. my kids to the academy because I went to it. It's beautiful. There is a, have you been to the academy? I've, I drive by the academy all the time too.

I've never been inside. Okay. It has a gigantic, beautiful fireplace in the lobby of the school. Oh man. Of a school. Of the school. I've never seen that before. Crazy.

And if you live in town, you get to go, that's your public school. Well, that's fantastic. As long as you like a UN world curriculum, it's like the little. It is. It is. It literally is. It's the little red schoolhouse. And I'm like, what?

I'm living in Texas. I know my neighbors. How is this happening? How is this happening? And all the neighbors say the same thing. Oh, isn't it great? No, it's not great. No, it's not great.

Has anybody but us complained about the firehouse? I have not heard anybody. I have either. Tim and my daughter, who also live in town, Tim and my daughter, they were the ones that went. And they were like, this is insane, dad. you're going to have an aneurism when you actually go inside of this place. But I haven't heard anybody say anything but, oh, isn't this great? No.

No. No. Nobody needs stone archways outside a fire station. I don't understand that. Every time we drive by and I drive by twice a day. You need that stone archways outside a fire station. Did you ever see a house that nice? No, no, not certainly not in, not even.

You live in a pretty nice area. I live in a very nice area. And there's no houses nice as this fire station. No houses. It's unbelievable. I swear to you, it is nicer than the houses that the 900 people apparently own. Well, just the stove. If it's a wolf stove, what are those?

$10,000? Yeah. $12,000. I don't. Yes, you could get cheaper stoves. You can get out. Come on. Yes, yes.

Yes, I know. Yes, I know. I know. LG. Yeah, they're very nice. I know. They would heat the food the same way. Yes.

I am, you know, that is so far down on my priority list because restaurants will have wolf stoves. Okay. It's not just rich people, restaurants. Industrial. Well, yeah, but that's a, industrial. That's a private business. Yeah, I know that.

I know that. They're paying for it. I just get, the movie theater? You're talking to me about the store? I didn't know there was a movie theater in it. That's amazing. The screen comes down from the as the curtains come down. And they all sit in these, these plush leather chairs that have the shield

embroidered on the back of each chair. It's insane. That's crazy. And if you're a fireman you may have a long shift where you're saying there and like it's somewhat standard right to have like some like little room to watch television comfortably you should see. You don't need electric

lines. You don't need the electric screen. You don't need the movie seats and you certainly don't need the embroidery in the movies. Guys you should see the gym. You should see the gym in this thing. Oh there's a gym in it. There's a gym. It is a fully the best freaking gym. I mean, it's like, it's like what?

I mean, do we have like Arnold Schwarzenegger coming to use the gym every day? This is a beautiful gym. And it's insane. And I feel bad because I don't, I'm not saying anything bad about the fireman. In fact, if you're a fireman. The disclaimer. I know. If you're a fireman, you need a job in my town.

Okay. This is the sweetest. I don't think we have any fires. but you, wait till you see the firehouse, you need to apply to my town. And do not tell me what they're offering for salaries. Do not tell me because my head will explode. Oh, no, no, no, let me find out. A quick commercial break and we'll come back and blow Glenn's mind again.

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I live in a small town in Idaho. It's just farmers. And every time I drive by either a state or a local building, it is always the nicest one. that's not the way it's supposed to be. No, it's not. And I drive by this one state building. And it's this beautiful, beautiful building.

And I don't look, I don't, I don't care. I don't care about, you know, I want our town to be nice. I want things. But can we have reason? It's, you know, the schools, these schools are built and they are Taj Mahals. And our education is getting worse. Can we just build? a building that is nice, utilitarian, it's not a palace?

Yeah, it can be nice and functional. Yeah, that's it. It doesn't have to have, you know, all these bells and whistles. Right. And no one seems to care. This is completely our fault. Because a lot of these things go through in votes with 70 and 80 and 90% approval. Nobody thinks.

And nobody, nobody wants to vote against anything. When it comes to, well... I do every time. Oh, I do every time. Every single time. I don't even kidding. Like, there are probably things that we, like, desperately need, and I vote against it because I'm so annoyed with the whole process. But it's like they will, they put these bonds in.

It's always borrowed, as was the money for your firehouse, by the way. It was financed. So they go and they borrow all the money that they don't have to build these palaces so that they can say, look what we've done to this town. We've made it nicer. It's like, well, yeah, it's nice that you have a nice fire house. I got it. I mean, it might help when you drive by, you see a nice building. I mean, I don't know what the value of that is.

I don't know either. But the idea is that nobody critically looks at these things at all. Everyone spent, I mean, if you put the word kids, God forbid you put the word kids in a bill, pass with 90% every time, everywhere. And we all know, and this is, by the way, when it's going to pass by 90% in a state like Texas in towns like ours, which vote very red, that shows that we're not even making decisions on this stuff. This is wild, crazy government spending. for things that are way over the top that we do not need,

and yet still conservatives will go to the polls and approve them every time. You know, here in Texas, things have gotten so out of control. Here in Dallas, there is a school district. I think it's your school district that has the stadium and the athletic center that when Cowboy Stadium is down. No, I don't think that's mine, but I do know you. I've heard this story. the Dallas Cowboy, professional NFL, uses their gym, their equipment, their field, and their stadium for practice.

It's like, I don't know what happened to Texans, but Texans have gone insane. And those are, I mean, at least you can make the argument of fire department at some level has a role from government. What does that, why on earth is a town involved in building? a gym. Well, it's in their school. It's the school. That's the high school football team. First of all, the high school football team that are nicer. The stadiums all around Texas, all around Texas. The stadiums are nicer than most college stadiums. And they are nicer than some stadiums. Right. And it's really hard to justify because, I mean, yes, a lot of people will go to the games in Texas more than in other places. But, I mean, at least with college football at times, you can justify the

costs as a lot of times it comes back, right? Some of these big programs. All of it. Yeah, that's what it is. Pride. It's pride through the government. You know, like, what a weird thing for a red state to care about. And I was talking not about the school gym, but about the recreation center.

I was discussing earlier where like, you know, is it really the role of a government of a town to build water slides to entertain children? I like water slides. I like children love water slides. Is it the government's role? to take money from me, if I want to go to, there are water parks all over Texas.

There are water parks all over the place. There literally is a water park within driving distance. Indoor. It's incredible. And it's incredible. The city is competing against a private business. It's insane. This is Texas.

This is Texas. What the hell are we doing? What is happening in, you know, Illinois? Oh, my God. What is happening in the northeast? Well, what's going to happen to us? Right. Now they've done this for years and years and years and they lived off it and everything was fine because it's all going to be growth and more people are moving in and then something happens and then it all falls apart because you run out of other people's money.

What happens to a $15 million firehouse? What happens to a school that has just taken a bond out and built some, you know, palatial palace and then the economy has hit hard? What happens? Your taxes have to go up. Then what happens to you? because you don't have a job or you've had to cut back or whatever. It's insane. We're all carrying around debt that none of us actually spent.

We just went into a voting booth and we're like, oh yeah, that sounds good without even thinking about it. We're on the hook for debt beyond anyone's wildest imagination. One of the reasons the founders did not like direct democracy. Because you see it right here. It's half the people controlling all the money of everybody else. Yep. You're listening to Glenn.