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Episode Date: January 1, 2019

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This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. It is a good thing that we keep record of all of our shows, that we have archives. That's true. It's a big one. When you say something and later on we need to kind of check on its accuracy, it's always good to make sure we have the archive. Ten years ago, ten years ago, I said something and it is come true.

and it's pretty stunning. One of the most surprising examples. And we will give that to you next. Ten years ago. Ten years ago on this program, I made a mocking prediction and said, you know, I'll tell you what the left should be upset about.

It's a song. And I laid out the case 10 years ago. And while I've taken it a couple of step further than they are currently, remember, this was comedy. This was insane 10 years ago. Listen.

But baby, it's cold outside. But baby, it's cold outside. See, maybe this is just the... Been home and at you drop in. Maybe this is just the... negative side of me. But I mean, but beautiful, watch you know, I use it.

Stop this song for a second. You know, maybe it's just me, but I mean, now this has always seemed like, oh, it's kind of cute. But then I heard it done by Dean Martin, and Dean Martin, you know, you couldn't trust. I mean, he was a friend of Frank Sinatra. You know what I'm saying? Unions.

Mm-hmm. So then I hear it from, Dean Martin and I think there's something here. There's something much deeper than this. In fact, go back to the beginning. I just want you to listen to the words. Now it seems like

it's like a Rankin' and Bass Christmas card too. But baby it's cold outside. But baby it's cold outside. Okay, stop, stop, stop, stop. First she says, I really can't stay. And he says but baby it's cold outside. All right, so if I may.

In other words, what he's saying is, guess what, Skank? Put out, I'm going to leave you stranded in sub-zero temperatures. You know what I mean? It's cold outside. Now, you might think that's a little dramatic. You know, right now. But may I lay the rest of the song out

to provide some context? Go ahead. I'm okay okay okay Now here's she's saying I really can't stay She's trying to politely get out of there I gotta go away You know that's what she says

I gotta go away When was the last time you said I gotta go away To somebody who is Hey no you just stay with me I gotta go away You don't say I gotta go away And she says

The evenings and viz So very very nice She's trying to act like nothing's wrong And excuse yourself right i got to go away the evening's been very very nice and then what is he teller he's going to do

listen to this holding it you dropping i'll hold your hands that just like i stop just stop just saying holding your hand that's a sign of affection right holding your hands

that's restraint. That's a form of imprisonment. Then she says, is there just like ice? Beautiful, watch your listen to the... Stop, stop, stop, stop.

She says, my mother will start to worry and my father will be pacing the floor, which is exactly the thing that a hostage says. If my contact doesn't hear from me, they're going to come looking. And then what is he say in response? Listen to this.

Listen to the fireplace roll. Stop. See what I'm saying? You didn't catch it? Let me tell you something. You're never going to work for the FBI unless you follow along. You've got a hostage situation. He's holding her hands.

She's saying, there's somebody's going to come for me. They know where I am. And then he says, listen to the fireplace roar. In other words, I'll burn you alive. if you don't stay and put out. That's what I'm hearing here. Oh, how did we miss this our whole life?

Then she decides it's escalating too fast. Listen to what she says. Beautiful, please don't hurry. Put some records on while I pour. Stop, stop, stop, stop. So she decides it's escalating out of control. Well, well, oh, give me. maybe just one more drink.

Just one more drink. And then he distracts her. He says, you put on some records. First of all, who plays records anymore? Serial killers. She says, okay, maybe half a drink more. Maybe just half a drink. And he says, yeah, put on some of those records while I pour.

So now he's set up to pour the drink while her attention is elsewhere. What does he do? He drugs the drinks. Hello? As evidenced by what she says next. Put some records on while I pour. Baby, it's bad out there. No caps to be had.

Stop, stop. There it is, Your Honor. Say, what's in this drink? Then she says, But no caps to be had out there. Your eyes are like, I wish I knew how. To break this spell.

I wish I... Say, wasn't in the strength. I wish I knew how to break this spell. In other words... I think I just ingested the date rape drug. I'd like to stop the effects now. He's going to burn me to death. Oh, death.

In the middle of it, he says... I'll take your hat, your hair looks well. Okay, all right, all right. He says, your eyes are like starlight now, clearly the effects of GHB kicking in now. And then he says, I'm going to take your hat. Yes, at her most vulnerable moment, he begins to take her clothes off. Then she says, minding my movie. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

She says, I ought to say no, no, no, but she can't. Why? Because she's basically paralyzed now, laying next to the fire where she's terrified he's going to burn her to death. And he mockingly says, mind if I move in close? This is a horror movie. Knowing she can't resist, she takes solace in the fact that she at least has tried to stop his advances.

and then he says If your hat, your hair looks well Why? I know, but I can't, I try. At least it's going to say that I try. Baby, it's cold out. Okay, look, I mean, the song, stop it. We should never play this again.

It is a, it's the nightmare before Christmas. You know, it just goes on. and on and on you know I simply must go the clear answer is no yet he he keeps coming and coming and come you know what this is this is the story of the guy that dog the bounty hunter arrested in Mexico although the welcome has been so nice and warm yeah yeah yeah yeah that warmth is you know the warmth that GHB induces you see what I'm saying your lips look delicious oh I bet they do Hannibal the cannibal I get it.

Put out or you're going to find yourself in an icy grave. Merry Christmas. Is that too? That's amazing. It's just me. That is 10 years ago. It was, I think, just me 10 years ago. It was.

And now it's not. And that was something that was something that was a comedic observation 10 years ago. Yeah. It was, I mean, you never think we'd get to that ridiculous. point. Now, this is why there is no comedy anymore. Because the things that are funny, you have to take it to the extreme. How do you take America to the extreme? Now, it's already, it lives at the extreme. Do you have any outrage-addicted people in your life? Oh, you know what pisses me off about that? You want to help them, but you're constantly

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Available everywhere books are sold. So how long do I have to look at your ugly sweater? It lights up. It does light up. What you don't know is during the breaks, Stu just makes it worse By pushing a little button on his sweater Yeah, because the sweater doesn't just light up

Which is always a good part of a sweater No, you want it to make loud noises And his sweater does Yeah, it plays music too Yeah, so you just What I go with Oh, you have to I mean, you know, why would you not go with the Eagles

theme song every single break to annoy Glenn? I mean that that really sounds like What does it sound like? It sounds a little like like this. Hang on just a second. It's not on my sweater so it doesn't come up right away.

The Soviet National Anthem? Yeah, this is we pushed the button on my sweater. I would believe that from you. I mean, the fly eagle fly kind of sounds like the old Soviet national anthem. I don't know. I mean, it's an eagle. It's a national symbol.

Uh-huh. You know, the lyrics also in that Soviet National Anthem also had, we're the land of liberty and we're a free people. There you go. So there you go. Last night, I took Raph out to a movie because I promised him. He's wanted to see Deadpool. Deadpool.

And I have not seen it. I know it's rated R. It's very rated R too. Yeah, it's very rated R. It's really over the top. So I haven't seen it. He obviously hasn't seen it, but he's wanted to see it, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I said there's a new cut of this.

Now, this is something that conservatives have been asking for forever. Can you cut the rated R? Can you give it a cut for us prudes? Well, they've done it. They've done it. This is the first time. And it's, I think, brilliant. First of all, they double dip.

You have the rated R audience that goes too far, and then you have the PG-13 that still goes really, really far. But you have that standard now, and you have that choice. This is what we've been asking the movie companies to do forever. Why can't we have, what is it, the angel thing, vid angel? Right, yeah. Why can't we have that? Well, because it's an art thing. You're losing money.

Right, which is not usually where Hollywood goes. Now, sure, there's indie films that maybe they can make the art argument on, but Deadpool, they're trying to make a lot of cash. The first one was really funny. The second one was funny, too. So I don't know. I haven't seen either of them, and you might go see this and say, oh, they butchered the movie.

I think it was really, really funny. and especially the way they did it. They didn't just go and edit this movie. They filmed about 30 minutes extra. Because that was my question with this whole process. I saw Deadpool to the rated R version when it first came out. And if you just edited it to make it PG-13, it would be like four minutes long.

Like there's not. I think you will really, I think you'll really like it. They really made it into a new product, though. It is not the same movie. It starts out. It's so great. And I thought this was just for the trailer. I thought they were just going to cut this movie and, you know, make it shorter and, you know, take some of the stuff out.

But they didn't. It starts exactly like the opening scene of Princess Bride when the grandpa is sitting there in the chair. Okay. So you don't have the mom in there, et cetera. But when grandpa is there and he's like, hey, I brought something. I brought a book. That's Deadpool. playing the grandpa.

The room looks exactly the same, and Fred Savage is in it, but he's wearing a wedding ring, and he's an adult. And he wakes up as if from a drug-induced state, and he's like, where am I? What is happening? And he's like, hey, fella,

I've got a little book for you. I'm going to read. He's like, what the, is this the set from, is this the movie set from? Yeah, it is. And so they recreate except he's hostage. And this is all in the trailer, by the way. These are not, yeah, I'm not giving away anything.

But it is, it goes throughout the movie. It keeps going back just like the Princess Bride, which I thought was brilliant, really, really brilliant and very, very funny. At one point, I'm not going to give it away. but the Deadpool character with Fred Savage uses he's got a little boop, where he can bleep words because it's a PG-13. And Fred uses a different F word that is not bad. And that's worth the price of admission alone, the way it's used against him in that scene.

Very funny, very, very funny. That whole, you know, the whole premise of that is it's very, aware of itself being a movie. The whole movie's about that. Lazy writing. Yeah. Yeah. That's good.

I feel like that's a really... That's something we should... Even if you don't like Deadpool and you don't care about Deadpool, is something we should be praising Hollywood for a little bit because that's something we have to manage for a long time. You know, make it so other... You know, so people can see it. You don't have to have every F-bomb in the movie. You don't have to have every sex scene in the movie.

We still want to see. these movies and there have been some services. I know Vid Angel was one of them. There's another clean flicks, pure flicks, one of those? Yeah, pure flick. I can't remember which one of this. But there's a service. I know Pat Gray, from Pat Gray Unleashed, uses it on Netflix and you can watch

any movie and it will like edit it so you can you can take out whatever you want. You can take out swears, you can take out sex scenes. I don't know if Jeffie would be here, he would say he wanted to add in more sex scenes. I don't think it does that. But other than that, it's pretty it's pretty handy, but I mean, the idea that they would go through and instead of just a strict edit actually make something new

out of the movie to please audiences that maybe don't want to see all the R-rated stuff is that's a great outcome. I thought it was brilliant. I thought it was brilliant because the kids want to see that movie, you know? And it's the only one they can't see and it only makes them want to see it more.

Of all the Marvel movies, right? This is the only one that's the only are. Yeah. And it just based on the PG-13, I could imagine what the R was like, that's got to be a hard arm. Oh, yes. Because it's very, yeah. It pushes the boundaries quite a bit.

But that's sort of a joke, right? Like it's very violent. It's, you know, there's lots of references. There's lots of swearing. It definitely goes, I mean, that's the whole point of it, right? I think the charm of that character, outside of his cynicism and sort of sarcastic nature is the idea that you're combining this, like, thing that you normally see in a kid's movie with every. you would never see in a kids movie.

So let's just say this. You should be aware that had my wife attended this PG-13 movie, and it wasn't the two boys in the theater, it may have, we may not have made it to the end. They push this G-G-13 as far as they can push it. But I would imagine it's very clean compared to the, the actual version. And even if you saw the original, see this one.

What they did with Fred Savage is really brilliant. This is the Glenn Beck program. We welcome to the show, Mr. Andrew Heaton, who has a podcast on Blaze TV called something's up. Something's off. Something's off with Andrew Heaton. And when you get to know him, there really is something off with Andrew. Thank you for having me back. Good to be here. So I wanted to start with this.

Andrew, I don't know if you've been following the Russian spy thing that was libertarian, I guess. Marina Boutina. Yeah. Well, she was, I think she'd been to Freedom Fest a couple of times. And Freedom Fest is a big libertarian gathering in the desert that happens every year. And I think she'd been there. And I've, I actually, I did warm up for William Shatner there a couple of years ago, which is the highlight of my comedic career, by the way. He's doing jokes for William Shatner and then sneaking up behind him and going, can I get a picture?

And him going, you're very funny. And I was like, great. It doesn't matter if anyone thinks I'm fine. I don't think I met her. And I was kind of worried because I have kind of a thing for redheads. And this is pretty well documented. And so I was like, like, the police? Yeah, there's, I'm sure that there's all sorts of organizations keeping tabs on me.

And so what I saw that I was like, wait a minute. And like, and I dated a young lady who's from a different country who's redheads. So when I first saw that headline of like spy, I was like, oh, wow. No, it's not her. I didn't date Marina Boutin. But I do, I'm going to take the contrarian approach on this and say like, thank you, Russia for having the decency and the gentlemanliness of sending us hot spies. That is some old school gentleman tactics that has fallen out of use in international diplomacy. There's one country I'm thinking of.

I'm not going to mention which one it is, but from what I can tell, all they're doing is hacking us from a basement somewhere in China. and I appreciate the fact that the Russians will at least send over hot women to seduce our guys. Wasn't that part of the Cold War era? Yeah. I mean, it was the best part of the Cold War era. We got big Twilight Zone episodes and we got these hot spikes to come over. Exactly right. Yeah, it was like the constant fear of nuclear death was alleviated somewhat by the fact that, you know, you might end up having a fling with a Russian agent.

That was cool. And they're keeping that alive. Thank you. Thank you, Russia. Like, that tells me they respect us. Right. I think, too, the change from the Soviet Union to Russia and just whatever bit of capitalism entered their world in that transition really made their women hotter. Like, that's their biggest export at this point, are just really attractive women.

That was not the case. You go back and look at some of those, like, you know, Olympic teams from the 70s and 80s. They were not the case. Yeah, you got Anna Kornicova and Maria Sharapova and there's a constant flow. Maybe they were just hot but sad and starving. I don't like, I'd have to go back and look. It's possible that you look and you're like, oh, I can't, I'm not remotely aroused because of the misery of that place. Yeah.

And that's probably good. I just remember them being big and frightening. You know, like, that's not a woman, is it? I mean, you know, right now you're like with transgenderism and, you know, you kind of, but this was, they weren't trying not to be women. they were women, they just looked like big men. What do the men look like? They were all like the hurly, burly, like, barrel-chested, like... Drunks.

Okay. So it's just, it's a nation of weightlifters. Yes, all pretty much. That's my entire stereotype. Or gymnasts. Or chess players. Right. They're really into chess.

Right, right, right. So you never met her. I don't think... It's possible I met her. It wouldn't surprise me, but I'm confident I didn't date her. Right. I'm like, that's the thing that I had to do a quick thing. You've dated almost all the libertarian women.

There are eight, and I have dated five. Wow. The remaining three, it's just if they get divorced, I got to swoop in. We should point out that technically since she was a Russian spy is really only seven. That's true. You're right. There's actually only seven, and we can infer that one of them is probably a spy. The remaining seven.

So, yes, it's a pretty slim number. Yeah. It's kind of a sad life you live. Yes, we're all in agreement. Yeah. I'm a snappy dresser with a sad life. Yeah. So you've been covering a couple of stories that,

You know, I've not been covered by the mainstream media or really anybody else. Thus the name, something's off with Andrew Heaton. Well, you know, there's a few things we endeavor to do. It is a fun podcast. It's a thoughtful podcast. And so I do, I bring on a lot of people to have discourse. The motto of the show is good and intelligent people can disagree on matters of substance. But before I get into that thoughtful stuff, I try and find headlines that I don't feel are getting sufficient attention in the national media.

And this week, I didn't even do multiple headlines. I dedicated like a full block to trying to unravel this story, which I believe is what's going to get me the Pulitzer this next year. Really? Which is one of my goals for 2019. Wow. Okay. So what was the story that you were? So, and I need to stress, I'm not making any of this up.

This is all totally legitimate. Okay. Scientists were concerned that in Hawaii, endangered monk seals kept being found with dead eels up their nostrils. that they were apparently snorting eels. Have you seen this? Yeah, I saw a picture. It's creepy. And they don't seem to mind it.

They seem, I don't know seal psychology super well. But they appear to be kind of blithely unaware. Or the fact that they don't have hands, they know there's nothing they can do about it. So it's like, whatever I got that. They're the Buddhists of the animal world where they're like, you know what? Like can't do anything about it. So don't reject it. Just roll with a punch.

Yeah, they, so it started out with this photo that's gone viral where there's this seal monk that looks like it's half asleep with this two inches of eel dangling out of this nostril. And this scientist, it was spotted on, you know, one of these endangered species cams or whatever, whatever the scientists have set up there. And so he sent out this email, and I did some research on this. The email subject line was just eel in nose, question mark. And it was him emailing the other scientist to see if there was a protocol for removing eels from seal noses. and they had to do a back and forth, and eventually they're like, apparently we don't have this in the handbook. So some guy just went out there and, like, pulled it out like a magic trick,

like one of those handkerchiefs the magician has, took out this dead, dead. It was dead. Yeah, yeah. It's, it's, I don't know how long it was alive. By the time they got it, it was dead. The seal was fine. The seal was fine. Although this is one of the concerns they have, is that if this keeps happening and they've got like five documented cases of this now, at least four.

They said four or five. So I assume one of them might be the same. They're just not sure. But their fear is that if this keeps happening, that the monk seals will either get pneumonia or there just might be general health complications from having a rotting eel carcass in your nostril, which I think is a fair assumption. And so are the eels crawling in against the will of the seal? That is a great question.

Or are they, are the eels going somehow or another come see what's inside the cavern of my face? Okay, great question, and this is what has been racking the scientific community these few months since this started happening. We're putting Cures for Cancer on the back burner, and we're all trying to figure out. Oh, it's important. I mean, I'm a doctor, so I understand the importance. And I'm a deputy scientist. Right, okay. I own a lab coat. That's how that works under U.S. law.

And, no, so there's kind of three prevailing theories, and I've got my own fourth theory. The first theory is that the monks' seals, when they're hunting and they eat eels, they eat eels, urchins, and octopi. The theory is that they will find a hole underwater and just kind of shove their head into it and start grounding around. And there'll be an eel inside. And the only orifice with which it could escape is the seal nostril from the perspective of the eel. So it just shoots up there trying to escape that that works. That's one theory, right? That's a pretty good theory.

And that's pretty smart. I feel like that's a good idea from the eel. It's actually pretty smart. It's, you know what? I mean, shoot the moon. If you could make it through that whole gastrointestinal track, you would be the greatest eel of all time. if you could work your way through there. But so far, well, you know what?

Maybe they have. We're only seeing the dead ones. Right. Maybe the really fast eels get out. I don't think it's super likely because apparently, again, I spent way too much time researching this. Seals have pretty good muscle retention in their nostrils. Like I think it's almost like a sphincter or something where they can control that hole. So I don't think it's likely something could force it in, which brings us to theory number two,

which is that they're vomiting out the eels. So like if you've ever, you know, shoot Mr. Pip out your nose when you're laughing, because you were watching Newhart. Right. Newhart, great show. And you're watching that. Bob Newhart, just, you're always so funny.

Yeah. And you shoot out that Mr. Pibbout, you know, could be something like that, right? Again, but it's like the whole eel. So I don't think that's like. And the third one, which is kind of the one the scientists seem to be gravitating towards is, and I'm not, again, this is them, not me.

Teenagers are dumb. Their theory is that just there are dumb monk seal, probably males that just snort eels for the hell of it, because why not to impress their, There's seal buddies. So it's like the seal's like the seal's, it's like drag racing. It's like tide pod. It's like a stupid thing they do.

It's like the seal adults are like the damn teenagers. Our entire society of seals going to be wiped out in the next generation. The elder seals are talking about how the water used to be wetter. Right. And how the young seals are narcissistic. They don't have proper seal respect. Clap their flippers as well. My theory, by the way, is I think there's probably cocaine in them.

I think that there's cocaine inside the east. eels. I don't know where cocaine comes from, but it's probably eels. It comes from plants. It does it? Well, maybe. Then I guess those skills are eaten because that's the only thing I can think of that would compel it would compel an edible to suck an eel up, or any species to suck an eel up its nose. That's the only thing I can think of. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let me switch topics to... So if you're on the Pulitzer Committee, if you're listening, you're on the Pulitzer Committee, I'm doing yeoman's work here. It's a big investigation. It's on the level with the Miami Herald with

all the stuff they did. The Epstein case. The Epstein case. I mean, there's a few nominees. But you're there. I'd share it with the Miami. So, you know, he does have an Emmy. He won an Emmy.

I was given an Emmy by John Stossel. So John Stossel, great guy. That I worked with, or I worked near, I wasn't on the same team as him at Fox Business, but this is the worst award ever. So he was given to you. He won it. He gave it to you and you weren't even working with him,

That's not winning an Emmy. You can't put that on the resume. So John, if you don't know John, John's a incredibly smart guy and a very nice guy. Very nice guy. But also the least sentimental human being I've ever met. Yes. Like he just doesn't. It's like he had to like, he is like what AI is going to be.

Yeah. He looks up like, human emotions on Wikipedia. Yes, yes. And so for a while what he would do is he would have these, he has like, I think, eight national Emmys, which are big deal. And he has like 400 local Emmys, which are important, but not as big of deal. So when he would go to college campuses, whoever asked the best question, he would just give them a local Emmy. So when I left Fox, I went like, John, if you're just passing out Emmys, I'd take one. And he's like, why should I give it to you? And I was like, well, because, you know, I do political satire. And then just walked over and handed me a national Emmy. It was like, here you go. And so I thought this was really. And the way, in the way he told this to me, he was like, hey, you know, John really thought this was a funny thing that we did and everything else. So I'm on a plane with John just a few weeks ago. And we're flying to, I don't remember, Bermuda.

And so he hops on the plane and I said, John, no friend of yours. And he goes off and he talks and says all great stuff about Andrew Heaton and how much he loves him and everything else. And I said, Andrew told me that you gave him a national Emmy. And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah. You want one? I mean, he's giving him out way like they're candy. Yeah, yeah.

No citatality there. Yeah, John was probably just tired of dusting. Yeah. That was an easy way to get rid of it. It's incredible. Andrew, Andrew Heaton. Something's off with Andrew Heaton is the podcast. Subscribe to it.

You're going to love it. It's a lot of fun. Andrew, thank you so much. Thank you. So a friend of mine found this post. And, you know, we've been talking about things you could do for the holidays to cheer people up. And this one's not going to cost you a dime. It's going to cost you about 40 seconds.

I'm going to read this to you. From Randy Moa of Bellingham, Washington on his Facebook page, he said, I'm raising my 12-year-old grandson, Joe. He's been with me for six and a half years. My wife, Pauline, just passed away over a year ago. And so mostly Joe and I are doing fine, but it gets a little dismal around here sometimes. Some of Joe's comments recently have been, Grandpa, I'm getting tired of just being you and me. Maybe we could get another kid. Grandpa, I don't think people like us very much.

Nobody's coming around. his way to reach out is his YouTube channel. He has over 50 videos posted, currently 51 subscribers. His biggest thrill and affirmation is getting a new subscriber. Could you please go to his channel and use the quotation marks, quotation mark Joe Moa, M-O-A, and quotation marks, and watch a video or two, like them and subscribe, please. Doesn't cost anything just a little time. Joe will be so happy.

Also, feel free to share this post with your friends. blah, blah, blah. So it is quotation mark, Joe Moa, M-O-A, and quotation marks. Kids, I've watched a couple of the videos. They're harmless. There's just a, I don't even know how old is. I think he said 12. He's a 12-year-old boy.

And so he's just doing, you know, 12-year-old boy videos. And they're harmless. And, you know, he's a cute kid all by himself up in the wilds of the Pacific Northwest in Belmont. Bellingham and so. So you go to YouTube and you search Joe Moa, M-O-A, and his channel comes up and what should we do is you subscribe to it, like it, like it, yeah, there's a subscription page for YouTube, right? So click subscribe and see how, because he's going to come, he has whatever, for 50 subscribers, he's going to come home and see more than 50, I would guess, with this audience doing it.

And he doesn't, I don't know his grandfather, I don't know Joe or anything else. So it's just, let's just quietly do this and not just not tell him. And have your kids and have your kids subscribe. Maybe, I mean, maybe if your boy feels the same wants to like a pen pal, here it is. I remember I had a pen pal. I grew up just outside of Bellingham, Washington. And I had a pen pal and he was in, I think, Troy, New York. And man, I remember waiting for those letters.

And we were a pen pal for, I don't know, half a year. or so. And I wish I could remember the kid's name. I'd look him up today. But it was great. I loved it. So anyway, do it. Go to YouTube quotation mark. Joe Moa, M-O-A quotation mark. Like it and subscribe and give this kid a holiday treat that doesn't cost you anything. The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glembach program. There is a couple of remarkable stories today. One of them is about politics and Donald Trump and this new letter of intent to negotiate for a hotel Trump, Moscow.

It has finally been released. Eric Bowling is going to have a different view on this. I'm guessing than mine, and I am really anxious to see what is happening in the White House, what this means to the White House, and Eric Bowling. And also, there's a couple of other stories that kind of revolve around Eric's life that I'm hoping we can get into on today's program, Eric Bowling in one minute. Eric Bowling for a period of time played professional sports until he was injured. Then he went in, became a stock trader in Wall Street, then went to television.

And we know the rest from there. Eric Bowling on the Blaze TV. Welcome to the program. How are you, Eric? I'm doing great, Glenn. Thank you for having me. I'm honored to spend some time with you on this very interesting day. It's a very interesting day, isn't it?

So here's the great thing. A lot of demand for bowling to explain some stuff coming out of the White House. Right. So here's the great thing about Blaze TV is we are a collection of people that we don't interfere with each other's show or opinion and we like each other and get along and we can disagree. And I think we're going to disagree on this, but it doesn't matter. I really want to hear your opinion on the memo that came out from the Trump administration. Well, as Donald Trump himself said, and I agree with wholeheartedly, that he had a business. He had a real estate business that was doing, making hotel deals around the world.

When he ran for president, no one gave him a chance, including the New York Times on the night of the election, had Hillary Clinton with a 98% chance of winning as the return started to come in. I'll never forget seeing that meter, the New York Times meter of likelihood of your next president going literally pinned it to Hillary slowly and slowly and slowly. We got around 10 o'clock at night. It just flipped the way over to the Trump side. Why would he stop doing any sort of business if he wasn't sure he was going to be president? That's insane. We would have no one running for elected office if that were the case.

So we'd have no one with business experience and backgrounds running. If they had to drop their prior businesses in the likelihood or unlikelyhood of them being president, no less. And then all of a sudden, try and pick up the pieces where they left off. That would be crazy. Okay. So I agree with you 100%. However, he denied the business dealings with Moscow long after the election. Giuliani denied it. Rudy Giuliani denied it. I don't know that Donald Trump ever denied. I think he said, of course, I'm an ongoing business concern, multi-billion dollar international real estate business. Can't stop. I love you, Eric. I love you. But I can't let you get away with that. He denied it relentlessly. He said he had no business dealings with Russia multiple times. And he said, I don't know anybody who does have any business dealings.

No, I don't recall. I swear to you on my life. I don't recall him saying specifically. Well, but is it, okay. No business dealings with Russia because we know there are other properties that, in fact, he sold a property that he owned in Florida for one that I think it was at the time. The largest real estate deal on the history of Florida. Right. That one he admitted to.

That one he admitted to. He said the only business dealing. These are business deals. Right. He said the only business deal I have. with Russia is I sold a property a few years ago in Florida. So he admitted that one and he was straight up about it. My question is, is why do this?

The press has no credibility. People trust Donald Trump who voted for him. And, you know, he did it. And you can say the same thing, you know, about, you know, with Bill Clinton, this was a personal thing. It was about sex, et cetera. But he stood on the plane and he looked. at the reporters and he said, I had nothing to do with it.

I had nothing. I didn't even know about it. Okay, well, we find out that he did know about it. Okay, we can dismiss it because that one's a personal thing with his wife. All right. Now this one comes out. Why wouldn't he just stop all this? Why wouldn't he just come out and just say, yeah, and here's the contract?

Because I'm not sure that they had consummated the deal at that point. I think there was an ongoing concern. I saw a signature on the note on the memo as well. I honestly, Glenn, I'm being 100% honest with you. I don't remember him saying I have no business whatsoever with Russia, with the exception of that real estate dealing in Florida. Okay, so, okay, so I don't want to get in. But if I take your word for it, I could only say that, you know,

he'd have to circle back and say I'd explain the signature because you do know. However, I don't think it's a problem. there's no amoluments clause of violations whatsoever let's go back to the reality okay so if if in fact he said i have no business deal with russia and he had a letter of intent not a deal you know you and i Glenn we go way back we know letters of intent don't necessarily mean a deal is done it means we intend to do a deal it's not a legal binding matter by any mean that may be where he gets around it he may say look it's a letter of intent we sign letter intents around the world all time for everything. I've signed. How many letters of intent have you signed and or received that

end of not being a deal of tons? So maybe that's the little court to it, but let's take it. Let's bring it through the machine and find out what it really is. It's really a businessman continuing to do business, you know, in the way he was until he was elected president, and then things changed. He gave the business and the dealings off to Eric and Don Jr. and to a certain extent Ivanka as well, less so Ivanka, but Eric and Don Jr. Okay. Because it seems to me really the underlying issue is not an issue. He's running a business that talks about international real estate, and he's in the

middle of an international real estate deal. There's nothing there. Again, and it's just kind of dawning on me because I've got how many, what, 40 years in business under my belt. It's just dawning on me as we speak right now that a letter of intent is not a binding contract. No, I know. No, no.

No, no, no, I know that. I know that. He was dealing with them. He was attempting to get business. He kept saying, you know, I never had any business with Russia. You know, the closest I ever came to Russia, I bought a house a number of years ago in Palm Beach, Florida. You know, the New York Times has him on 23 occasions. And I don't know that all of these, a lot of them are I have nothing to do with Russia, which isn't necessarily talking about business dealings. But he did say, I had no business dealings with Russia. I had no business with Russia. You know, he, again, I think, you know, in his defense, right, he's in the middle of getting attacked. constantly by the media. And probably he knows if he says he did have a deal brewing with Russia, everyone would accuse him of a million different things and he didn't want to deal with it. And I can understand why he tried to push it off. I just feel like he, it's the whole Nixon thing. It's really not the crime.

It's the cover up. And I don't think the crime in this case is a crime at all. It's his normal business dealings. I just wish he would be a little more up front. That's all I would ask. Well, and again, and I'm sorry I started the interview off not really understanding it, But as I talk to you and talk it out, a letter of intent literally is like a handshake. It's nothing more like, hey, you know, let's circle back see if we can come to terms.

So technically he had no business deal done. And dealings is a letter of intent dealings. I mean, we're going to parse, you know, the meaning of is is of beer again. But I don't know. Maybe we want to. But again, there was no deal done. There's no deal consummated. And, you know, the difference is like when you do a deal,

you sign a contract and you do a press release. That's true. I mean, it's, again, it is six, what is it? Letter of intent. I'm laughing because it's literally, there's literally thousands of letters of intent, you know, drawn up and, you know, they're worth the paper that they're written on and that that's about it. Yeah, no, it's true. I mean, it's a detailed letter of intent, right? I mean, it's 16 pages of all the different, you know, going down to like how they're going to figure out concession splits.

I mean, it's pretty, it's relatively detailed. But I think to your point, Eric, it's true that the media is going to kind of obsess over this, and they're going to say this is proof of, you know, collusion about the election. I mean, it really has nothing to do with that at all. They're just going to try to conflate these things. This is the problem. This is the problem that they are conflating absolutely everything into this collusion with Russia and the election. and I just don't see it. I don't believe it.

They would have to show me the, you know, the evidence of it, and I have not seen any evidence that there was collusion for the election. It's just, it's so frustrating because the president. You know, you know the media. You know these liberal hack media that, if they can make something up, they can take a, you know, eat and call it a tree. They will. I know.

There are no seeds. And if there were and if Mueller is sitting on something, it would leak by now. It would leak. We would know that there would be something that they've got him tattooed to the wall. And there's no secrets in D.C. So, Eric, I am just to the point to where I don't really care to speculate. I don't want to speculate on what they have, what they don't have, because I'm tired of it. I watch CNN.

It's not a news show. It's like a psychic hour that they're saying, well, I'm looking. in the crystal ball and I think this is what they've gotten. I don't care. I don't care. I just want to talk about the things that we do know they have. So if they've got something else, they'll come out with it. Until that time, I don't even want to talk about it because it makes no difference to

anybody's life. And it just confuses things and pits us against each other. On what? On speculation coming from people I don't trust? I'm not interested. Well, but it rates, Glenn, and that's what the left does. and you're watching MSNBC's ratings in prime time creep up. In fact, even past Fox's ratings in prime time.

It's what's what the left in the anti-Trump crowd wants to hear. We're getting close to nailing the president. It's almost an anticipatory viewer waiting to see what they got. And they keep getting disappointed. I know. They've been saying that every time something new breaks, they're like, we got them this time. No, you don't.

No, you don't. No, it's not going to, it's not going anywhere. So anyway, the most common phrase on CNN is the walls are closing in. They just keep saying it over and over again. I know. He must be living in a matchbox by now. All right. Eric Bowling from, from Eric bowling.com and Blaze TV. He does a nightly show from Washington. Gives you all of the inside information.

We're thrilled to have him on the program today. I want to switch topics and go away from. from politics a little bit, if you'll allow me to, in one minute. So Eric Bowling, I want to switch topics to you. And there's a couple of things. First of all, what do you have coming up and what are you going to be looking at and doing on the Blaze TV in the next year? We're going to continue to do what we did.

By the way, Glenn, we just did a big press release that I signed with Blaze TV. years and I'm looking forward to working with you and Mark and some of the other some of the other conservative hosts that we were delivering probably the premier actually the premier conservative content in media right now opinion content so I'm looking forward to that and inviting as many other conservative smart conservative voices to join me at blaze TV it's going to be a great venture and looking forward to it so that that announcement just went out that's great I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled. We are going to do what we've been doing.

Our show America is just, it's unbelievable. We're in congressman's offices. We are in the Senate retunda talking to senators. I spent the day yesterday at the White House with Kelly Ann Conway. I spent last week with the president in the Oval Office. So I'm bringing high-level advisors and elected officials, opinion and ideas and just policy to the forefront. And then we talk about it. And we're doing it three days a week right now. I think we're going to increase that to maybe four days a week.

And we deliver it live at 5 p.m. every night. So it's going to be a great year and we're going to continue to do what we did. I'm looking forward to working with you, Glenn, and the blaze. And maybe we can, you know, talk regularly. That'd be a lot of fun. I'd love that. I'd love that. As far as the show, I was concerned.

I'm also doing this opioid awareness push. Now, I've teamed up with Sinclair broadcast on the TV and broadcast side. And probably for the next four months, I think, through April of 19. We're traveling around the country, different cities. We'll be in Dallas. We'll be in San Antonio. We'll be in Columbus, Ohio, Northwest, all over the country. And we're talking opioids.

We had the first lady last time at Liberty University. We're at Kelly and Connolly. So we're getting an opioid awareness message out to people. It's an important message. It's a deadly killer that we need to really attack us a country. You're doing that because of the tragic loss of your son that we have talked about, and you spoke about it in a very raw and real way, and it was just, I think it touched a lot of people, Eric. This is coming up now on your second Christmas without your son.

How are you doing? Not well. I'll be honest with you. One of the things you'll know about me, maybe your audience doesn't, but we'll learn quickly, is that there's no on-air persona versus, you know, an off-air person. It's what you see on TV is who I am. And so I'd be lying if I said I'm doing well or my wife and I are doing well.

It's a rough time of year. We lost our son in September of 17. A couple weeks later, it was Thanksgiving. The empty chair was happening. and we were about to all fall apart as a family, and President Trump called. And, you know, it meant a lot for me that he called on that moment because he knew it was the first holiday. And he subsequently called on many holidays since. It doesn't make it easier.

It just makes it feel like he cares. And so the point is that because he showed so much empathy and compassion about this topic and my loss, my wife's loss, I'm really pushing to get the message out so other families don't have to deal with this. Interestingly, last night, we finished a show that's Sinclair in D.C. here, WGLA, and we came off the hour on opioids, and, you know, the producers came up and said, oh, that was amazing. That's great. You know, let's start working on San Antonio on January 10th. We're going to be there.

And they're like, this is going to be, you know, great. And I just looked at my go, do you know, how hard this is for me to do an hour on the loss of my, my only child, my son. And they realize at that moment that this is really, really hard for me to do. But I swear to, Glenn, the only thing I have to hold on to that there's any sort of positive that can come out of it is that we save one family from this utter hell. And it really is a hell. So that's what, that's what gets me up in the morning. If it weren't for that, I'm not sure. I, my mother committed suicide and I remember when I did the tour for the Christmas sweater, which is a fictional telling of that, and I felt so compelled to do it, I remember I got off the stage every night and I was just, I said I can't do it another day, just cannot do it another day. It's sometimes when you when you hit these personal moments where it is a

a cause, yours being opioids, mine being suicide, it's it is it takes every ounce of strength you have to get through it and I command you for doing it. I'm telling you that feeling you felt I can't do another day is what I felt last night and after the first one and and you know it's a great message and it's a great broadcast partnership with Sinclair, they're, they blanket the country on local stations and they, they're happy to announce 12 more. I just looked at them like, okay, 12 more.

You know, I mean, it's going to be rough, but listen, if you can get the suicide message out, help people who are contemplating and maybe make the phone call to the suicide prevention hotline, or if I can get the message out to families, parents talk to your kids, no one's no one's immune your kids not too smart too popular too athletic too white too black too gay too straight to rich to poor they'll all be touched or to kids one pill can kill and maybe we save a life or two months Eric bowling continue in just a minute Eric bowling who has just announced a new three-year deal with blaze tv we're thrilled to have you on Eric he does Eric bowling's amazing America on Blaze TV, three, soon to be four days a week, and is with all of the players in Washington, knows them. Can you give me any perspective?

I want to touch on this real quick, then I want to get to something else. But he dropped? Can we get him back? Wow, the deal's over already. He signs three years and then he's just gone. Wow. Okay, see if you can get him back. I want to ask him about the border wall, and then did we schedule him for a,

There he is. Okay. Hey, Eric, how are you? I'm good, Glenn. How are you? Good. I want to talk to you about one quick thing, politics. Then I want to get something more important. The border wall. It looks like now we are, we've caved on shutting the government down. Does the president have another plan like he's talked about building it through the Pentagon

or what's the plan on the border wall? Yeah, we can talk about it. I think he's going to build his wall one way. other. I agree that he can't cave on on, I actually, I wish you would have not have caved on making Mexico pay for it. I think that that still has to be part of it some way. Well, but we just, we just said we're going to give him $5 billion. I mean, we could have given the border construction people $5 billion, but we gave it to Mexico. Yeah, well, listen, I, I'm, this is one I think he has to hold. I think this is this is one

he has to figure out before, you know, before a reelection campaign. but it's something, if he caves on this, it's going to be one of the day once for him. Okay. Eric, can I talk to you about something, and you can feel free to say no, and we can move on. But you said something to me when we did our podcast, and you were very open and honest. And I didn't follow up on it because I felt that I had put you through the ringer enough, personally. But I think in this holiday season, if you would address it, I think it would be enlightening.

You told me that not only did your son die the day he died, but your faith did as well. We can talk about that. You were a guy who went to church. If I'm not mistaken, every day. Six days. Six days. Yeah, I went five days a week when I got to work.

I would go over to St. Patrick's, and on Sunday I went every Sunday. and it was for 10 years. I went six days a week. And now you say you don't have... The last day I went to church was that day. It was a Friday. And are you... What's your relationship with God?

What's your... What's happening? It's complicated. I'm trying to figure out. I'm still trying to figure it out. I believe. there's probably many people do that, you know, you're a good person, you go to church, you sacrifice, you do the right thing, you know, be charitable, be honest, take care of people.

You know, I can't tell them in terms of pull over and hand someone on an umbrella. I mean, I was just, yeah, and in the hopes of, you know, having some, I guess maybe it's a, it's not a right, it's not the correct way of thinking, but in hopes of having some sort of protection against something as catastrophic as what happened to me. I lost my son and my career was kind of ended in and my faith on the same day. Yeah. Still working it out. So do you still believe in God?

Or is it a kind of I'm angry or I don't know who you are or I reject you? What, where are now? No, it's not an I reject you. It's, it's, it's, Anger if if I believe it's anger and if if I don't believe anymore It's what have I died if I wasted all this time and I don't know I'm I'm I'm I'll be honest with you in public I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know are you are you pursuing This or you just letting it settle till things calm down no I I mean it

It but in in the really strange thing about this this loss is, you know, you think about things like what happens if I lost this person or that. And when a loss of this magnitude, I don't think there is a bigger loss in the world than losing a child and an only child, you get thrown into a depth that's literally inexplicable. So the worst thing you could ever possibly, the most worst feeling you ever think you could feel, multiply it by, you know, a million. It's such a devastating hole what you're doing. And it's literally a daily struggle just to make it out of it, just to see that there is a life.

And so to start tackling the big issues like, where's my faith? I need to, my wife and I both need to heal. Like I do the opioid tour and she can't go because it just breaks her apart, just, you know, seeing a picture. And so it breaks me apart too. Like last night, the producers didn't tell me that there was a picture of Eric Chasing. in the middle of the show, and it just popped up, and it almost derailed me for the whole show. So it still left. I did an event here in D.C. for opioids, and I was a keynote speaker.

I got there, and they were rolling pictures, and I didn't know. They were rolling pictures of Eric and I, and I couldn't even speak. I couldn't do the event. I was in tears. Anyway. Eric. It's a daily struggle. May we all pray for you and your wife?

Thank you, Glenn. try to enjoy the holiday and, um, and I just, I don't get it. There's no, there's no enjoyment. I mean, it's called make it true. That's what it literally is. But, um, so may you make it through. I appreciate the prayers. God bless you, Eric. Thank you, Lynn. Thank you so much. Hmm. That's brave to, I mean, that's, that's, that's, that's really, that's really incredible. I can't even imagine what that guy has gone through. I don't think any of us know how we would react. No.

You know, it's easy to say, well, Eric, that's when you need your faith. That's when you... Sure. But none of us know how we're going to react. And I think if we deny that people would struggle with a situation like that, it's even to the level of the core of their faith, then we're letting people down.

Because when this does happen to people and it does, you know, this is a very honest... process. Like, this is how you're going to feel. I mean, I haven't had to deal with something like that. And in my head, I know that if something like that happened, I, you'd have no choice, I think, to question everything that you've assumed about life. Hopefully you come back to, you know, or you're able to get to the right place. And I really pray Eric does as well. And I think, you know, he's going to have his own journey on that. And that's tough. But I mean, to be able to come out and talk about that in front of people and as difficult as you can tell, it is for

him, that is really important. You know, that's a really brave act for him to do not only what he just did on the air, but also with opioids and everything he's doing around the country, really important stuff, really brave and incredibly difficult. He's doing that at extreme personal sacrifice. He's so honest. If you missed the interview that I did with him for a podcast, I think you'll probably find it on YouTube now.

Yeah, it's certainly available. Yeah. And watch it. because this is the first time he really opened up on a national platform about the death of his son. And it was incredibly brave and incredibly raw. And he is obviously a man who is going through a gigantic change in his life. And cannot see the blessings yet. but most of us can't when we're in that space.

You know, he, it was brave of him to say, you know, I kind of looked at my faith differently. I kind of looked at my service differently. And nowhere really is that promised that, I mean, look Jesus. You know, it seems like all of the good guys always get killed one way or another, you know. you look at all of the martyrs that, you know, just stood and we're saying, no, no, no, no, I think you should read the Bible in your own language. I don't think you should have to have it in Latin and go to a priest because you can't read Latin. Burned at the stake.

All these really great people that lost their lives, all of the apostles. And look at the stoning of Stephen. It's so funny. I just read a story last night of a guy who survived the Chicago fire. And it wiped his family out. And they were just getting back on their feet and decided to go to Europe for a vacation with the family. This is like 1903 or 5, something like that. And the dad has to stay, but he said, I'll meet you over there.

So the mom and their four children, their four daughters, are on this boat. And it hits another ocean liner in the middle of the ocean. And it sinks. She lives and the children die. And she just wires to him when she arrives in France. She wires back to her husband. I survived alone. I don't know what I'm going to do.

He gets onto a boat. He goes over. He gets her. As they're crossing the ocean, the captain says this is where it happened. The captain marked in his journal that he noticed they never looked down to the sea. They looked up. And they came back to show.

Chicago. They had two other children. One died at three. One died at seven. Their pastor said, you're being punished. You've done something wrong. So they just surrender completely. They move to Israel. And they start just helping people. First, they go into World War I, and they just start helping people. Anybody who's wounded doesn't matter what side's on. Then they move to Israel and eventually they build the children's hospital that is still serving people today and it doesn't matter if you're Arab or you're Jewish or you're Christian. The policy of the hospital is you have to have help and they're there. I don't know how people survive but is a very delicate dance with God.

of being able to let it go. Without forgetting, it's so difficult, but letting it go and knowing that there is some reason and it's a good reason that these things happen to us. And my prayer for Eric and anyone else that is struggling is that you will hear the words, it's okay. All is well.

everything is good everything is as it should be our puny little human brains cannot wrap around the idea of tragedy being good

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There's a lot of stuff going on with the economy that nobody's really covering, but keep your eye on this because things are happening fast and furious. Also, the Russians look like that. they are repositioning two nuclear bombers in Venezuela. The administration has already tweeted out, you know, unacceptable, but Venezuela and Russia appear to be working together, and that's never good. We also have a guest on next hour, Helen Andrews, who has a really different perspective on life and social media. because she has walked a horrific walk. Yeah, her story is really fascinating.

She was on C-SPAN, and she got in basically what was an argument with an ex-boyfriend on C-SPAN. It was sort of, by my reading of it, sort of ambushed her on live television and went viral and changed her life. This is about, I mean, what, seven or eight years ago? And how her journey of how she dealt with that

and where that's turned out is really fascinating. She's going to join us next, a compelling, compelling story from Helen Andrews. Coming up. You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program. The Fusion of Entertainment and Enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. No one has yet figured out what rules should govern the new frontiers of public shaming that the Internet has opened. new rules are obviously required shame is now both global and permanent to a degree

unprecedented in human history no more moving to the next town to escape your bad name however you can go as far as you want wait as long as you want but your disgrace is only ever a Google search away the right to be forgotten taking the human memory and making it perfect forever. What are the new rules? What is it like to be chased out of the public sphere? And having to move to the other side of the planet only to realize it doesn't stop there.

Helen Andrews, shame storm in one minute. It was October 2010, when our next guest appeared on a panel to promote a book of essays by young conservatives. Proud to be right, voices of the next conservative generation. The moderator was Jonah Goldberg. One of the other panelists was my ex-boyfriend. During the question in answering, Todd, the boyfriend,

launched into a rant about Helen's personal failings. He accused me of opposing Obamacare on the grounds that it would diminish human suffering, which allegedly I preferred to increase, of wanting to appeal laws against fistfights for the same reasons of being sadistic and scheming, a heartbreaker in his own personal life, and generally living according to a disturbing and brutal set of values. For three minutes and 45 seconds, which unfortunately for me, were captured on film for broadcast two weeks later on C-SPAN, he made an impassioned case that I was a sociopath. It stuck.

Helen Andrews is that woman that was on C-SPAN. Welcome to the program. Thanks so much for having me, Glenn. Wow, Helen. You've been through the ringer and back. Are you back yet? Yeah, it's been eight years since that happened. But, you know, just the week or the very day that I sat down to write this essay,

my husband came home and said, honey, you won't believe what happened. I was at a conference, and we were talking about bad breakup. in the conservative movement. And one guy pulled out his phone and said, oh, my goodness, if you want to talk about that conservative breakup, you have to see this C-SPAN thing. The poor guy had no idea that he was talking to my husband. Oh, gosh.

After eight years, it would have faded away. But no, it still pops up. That's the thing. The Internet is forever. Yeah, so I want to talk to you a little bit about there's something in Europe that they're trying to push through, and that is the right to be forgotten. which is very, very human. I mean, we do forget things and things fade.

But with the Internet, it's permanently there, always, and you'll never can escape it. So tell me what happened that day and tell me your journey here in the last, you know, eight years. Sure. Well, as soon as the video went up on the Internet, those three minutes and 45 seconds were instantly clipped and posted on YouTube, and they got half a million hits in the first 48 hours. Oh, my God. All the cable news networks did a segment about it. It even made the local network news here in D.C.

It was written up on God, Washington Post, you know, guide of mental on ex-girlfriend at C-SPAN panel. So all of my coworkers saw the video, all of my friends saw the video. It just became a huge story. How old were you when you sat down for that interview? And you were, because you were 22 when you dated this guy, right? Yeah, and I think I was 24 when the video went big. So, you know, I, yeah, I was 24 years old and basically thought, well, that's my life over now.

Right. And you admit that you were pretty, you're pretty brutal to him. Oh, yeah. Well, and, you know, that's where I eventually arrived. You know, I thought about, you know, Todd's talking for four minutes about what a bad person I am. Well, you know, honestly, he could have gone on for four hours about what a bad person I was to him and not said anything untrue, you know. So who am I to say that I didn't deserve being embarrassed, you know? So after you had, you know, half a million hits in 48 hours, how did your life begin to change?

I think I didn't realize at first just how permanent a part of my life this thing was going to be. I thought it would just be a week of bad news coverage, and that would be embarrassing, but then I would move on. It started off with little things like I would be walking down the street on one occasion with my parents, and people would stop and point and say, hey, C-SPAN girl. about a year after the incident, I decided I wanted to move on from my job at National Review. And funniest thing, no matter how many resumes I sent out, I couldn't get a job interview, which made sense. I put myself in the shoes of a prospective employer, and I figured, yeah, if I were trying to hire for a position and somebody's first Google result with some rant about how she's maybe a psycho, you know, yeah, I might look at other candidates too. But, you know, that's easy enough for them to say, but for me it was a pretty serious blow to not be able to find a job.

And eventually, as you mentioned, I moved to Australia and moved to the other side of the world. And even there, because that's the thing about Google. It's completely global. It followed me to another hemisphere. And so when you were looking for a job there, you couldn't find a job for like 18 months because people, the first thing they would do is Google your name. That's right. And then once I did find a job at a think tank, it still followed me there. You know, I put out my first report on non-profit regulation, right, like the way charities are regulated in Australia. A pretty, you know, benign topic. But the minute the report was released, an Australian MP tweeted a link to the video and said, I don't trust this person's views on charity regulation. You know, not even some schmo on the internet, but an elected official has decided. it to use that as ammo against, you know, any, any public statement I want to, might want to make in the future. So, I have, I have to ask the obvious question here from the right, and that is,

do you think it would have been the same if you were a liberal and not a conservative? No, I don't think so. You know, I, people always say, don't read the comments, and that is definitely my advice to anybody else that this ever happens to. Don't ever. read the comments, but I couldn't help myself. And the thing that I noticed over and over again is that these people would say, well, you know, gossip is bad, and we shouldn't make fun of people for bad things in their personal lives. It's none of our business. But in this case, this chick is obviously some kind of Christian right-wing nut job. So therefore, that makes her a hypocrite. And that's why it's okay for us to talk about it. That's something that a lot of people

do psychologically when they join in on these internet piles. on. You know, they come up with a reason for why, no, it's actually okay in this case. You know, it's justified. When really, it's just they're, they're joining in because it's fun. Is there any difference do you think between, I mean, other than the final outcome, is there any difference between this and the mobs that used to dunk the witches or, or burn the witches? A lot of people just joined, didn't, you know, just didn't have anything else to do. The way that you know it's completely irrational. you know, that it has no basis in actual justice or truth or logic, is that arguing back never, ever helps.

You know, if anybody who finds themselves in the middle of one of these storms, your first instinct is always going to be, oh, well, I'll just explain my side of the story, and then everyone will understand. But because nobody in one of these pylons is interested in the truth, anything you say is just going to be twisted out of context. or made to make it sound worse or it's going to be like, you know, crying when a bully attacks you in the school yard. You know, nobody's listening. So rational argument isn't going to help anything. Holy cow. How you survive this is beyond me. And that's, I guess, where I want to go next.

How did you survive it? What did you take from it? How should you fight these things if it happens to you? Helen Andrews will continue in one minute. Do you have any outrage-addicted people in your life? Oh, you know what pisses me off about that? You want to help them, but you're constantly dodging things that are being thrown, and you don't know how.

Try giving them a copy of Glenn Beck's latest book, Addicted to Outrage. It's much cheaper than therapy and hurts less than a book to your head. And it's more fun. Addicted to Outrage. The new book from Glenn Beck. Available everywhere books are sold. This is the Glenn Beck program, and we're talking to Helen Andrews, a conservative writer she wrote, a piece in first things called Shame Storm.

Helen, you brought up something I think is really interesting about how people won't react to rational thought in these moments. And it strikes me that when these things start, when these sort of online shame trains begin, we in ourselves, why not? up excusing a lot of awful behavior to, in an attempt to pile on. We, you use a great example, which was Kevin Williamson. We love Kevin. He's been on the show before. He went to the Atlantic, if people don't remember the story, and they unearthed some comment that he had made about abortion.

And the comment, the controversy really wasn't about the comment. Afterwards, people started saying, I'm fearful to work with Kevin Williamson. You know, 25%, he might want to kill 25% of the women who, work here. And you point out correctly, no one actually believed Kevin Williamson was a threat to anyone around them. They had justified in this moral sort of crusade the idea that they could say anything about this person and lie about their own feelings because this was so justified. Did you feel like you were kind of at the other end of that going through this process? Sure. You know, I would read in comments or blog post.

people saying things about me that were just not true, you know, that we're just factually, easily checkably false. And I kind of wondered, how is it that these people who have never met me care so much about ruining my life? What did I ever do to make them so angry with me? And eventually I realized that they're not angry at me. They don't care all that much about me one way or the other. They've got their own reasons. They're angry at women or they're angry at conservatives or they're just angry in general and, like, lashing out, or they just enjoy the rush of feeling outrage.

You know, you really, once you read enough of the comments or follow enough of these shame storms, you realize it's not about you. It's not about the person at the middle of it. It's just about, there's just a pattern to the dynamic of the way these things always go. It's like a wave or an avalanche. So, so how do you deal with it? Because I would imagine you've tried all of it. of the, you know, argue, let it go, don't read it, be nice.

I mean, what works? You know, it's funny. It took me a long time to get to a place where I'm okay with it. But once I did, I realized I was actually grateful that this, I truly believe it was part of a bigger plan that this should happen to me. That, you know, I was a pretty rotten person when I was 24. I was selfish and careless and very proud. And I don't know if anything short of this kind of knock-up side the head could have done it for me.

You know, I was raised in a very secular household. You know, the only church we recognized was the Church of NPR. But it was only in college, and after going into conservative journalism, that I met any Christians at all. And one of the things that one of them said to me after this whole C-SPAN thing happened was, you know, Helen, there is no humility without humiliation. And gosh, was that true. You know, I was just a very proud person. My instinct was always to think, I don't deserve this bad thing that's happening to me.

But that saying that just stuck in my head, there is no humility without humiliation, led me to some self-reflection and realizing that, you know, yeah, the only solution here is to try and become a better person. So that was my lesson. So let me ask you, because I think that's a great lesson to learn and one I have learned through the years.

Sure have. Shut up. But it's important that we recognize, you know, that, you know, recognize our place in the universe and time and space. However, it also seems that no matter how much you change, it's not going to, they're just going to say you're only doing that because of X, Y, and Z. So you never escape that. Does that make sense to you?

Have you experienced that? Absolutely. Absolutely. That there's no, you know, there's no way to indicate that. you've changed or reformed, which, you know, the only thing that, you know, there's nothing you can do to change how other people think. You know, they're not your problem. You only have control over you. But one thing that I've certainly taken away is that when I see other people who have been through these kinds of shame storms or I hear rumors about somebody, oh, he did some kind of bad thing in the past or she's guilty of this, if it's been a while, I always start. from the default of assuming unless they indicate or prove to me otherwise that they have changed

and that they have become a better person. Give people the benefit of the doubt. Yeah, it seems like we're living in a society that just doesn't ever forgive. Yeah, well, you know, I've gotten a lot of feedback ever since this essay was published. You know, some people whose names I recognize and have seen on TV reached out and said something like this happened to me, thank you for, you know, including a ray of hope at the end of your story. But the messages that got to me the most were from, you know, people in a small town who nobody had ever heard of, who aren't that famous, but whose lives have been wrecked or overturned by events like this. You know, they said, that was the worst person on the

internet for 48 hours, and then everybody else moved on. But I'm still. here living amidst the wreckage. There's a guy who could spend so much time talking to you, Helen. One question before we go, we've got about one minute. You wound up eventually reconnecting with your ex-boyfriend where this old incident started, and you've talked to him since. What's your relationship like now? How does he see this?

Yeah, no, it's quite positive, you know, because he suffered just as much as I did. You know, he eventually lost his job. over this incident. And he's kind of, you know, people made fun of him on the internet. He finds it hard to get gigs now. And so we both kind of learned a lesson. He asked him if he would do it over again if he had the choice. And he said, absolutely not.

Not a chance. So, yeah, no. And I forgive him and he forgives me. And that's really the moral of this story. Helen, thank you for having the guts. first of all, for not giving up and then finding the positive message in it and changing your life. I think this is a great story of redemption that's not going to go viral, but it should because it's important, and I think it's going to happen to all of us in one way or another.

Helen, thank you. Thank you so much, fun. You bet. Helen Andrews, you can read this story. It's fascinating to read. and she's and she really goes into great detail of other people and and the things that she tried along the way um you can see it it's at first things it's called shame storm just just to google search helen and andrews and shame storm well we'll tweet it out as well yeah maybe you shouldn't google her

because then you just playing into it you bastard what are you doing because she's a psychopath she's a really bad person i've heard at world of stew at glenbeck we'll get that tweeted in the next couple of minutes here. You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck program. I never watch America's Got Talent. I just don't watch TV, generally speaking. But my son came to me with YouTube and said, Dad, you have to see this woman.

Vicki Barbelock is her name. She's 60, you're 60 years old? I'm the 61 this year. You're 61. Okay. And she came out on stage and I don't remember who it was, Naomi Campbell or somebody said, what are you going to do?

And she said, I'm a ballerina. and she's clearly not a ballerina. And she followed that with, no, I'm kidding. I like to eat. So I'm not a ballerina. And it went on from there. And she, you came back, I think, two times after that. I think there was, you know, I think there was like four more shows till the last final.

Okay. And you are now going back for the champions? Champions, where are they now? I'm in the driveway. I haven't left. It just got out of there. So you, now, like, you really, you, you're from California. Yeah.

You've been a comedian. 20 years. 20 years. And you kind of found yourself in a place to where you were too old for your own club. Club. I mean, yeah. I mean, I didn't start until I was like nearly 40. And I didn't know that was not a good idea.

Luckily, or I wouldn't have started, you know. I probably would have that because I am an idiot. But I mean, and so, you know, I was having a great time doing it. But when I would go, no matter what would happen to me, like e-television would say I'm in the next breakthrough from the comedy store. I would go to these agents in Hollywood and they go, well, you're too fat, you're too old, you're too, there's nothing we can do for you. And so, I mean, I just kept hoping something would happen, but I just, you know, Steve Martin said you get so good they can't ignore you.

And that was my only plan. Just keep doing it, keep loving it. But I kept thinking maybe Steve was wrong. Then America's Got Talent happened. And what happened that show had such a gigantic reach. And the people, it brought to me, it just, then Hollywood had to, come around. Your dad...

Yeah, my dad played for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He played for the Steelers. I'm not bragging, Beck. I just wanted you to know what the daughter of an NFL football player looks like because you never saw one before. This is no padding. This is natural. So, yeah.

And so he had, you know, he'd been hit around a lot of leather helmet time for him, 1950, 51. And so as I grew up, he was Daffy and Daffy and Daffier. But he was just lots of fun. And, you know, he was just a great dad. But he was totally. So where do you get this from your dad or from your mom? I think, you know, I was also a little fat little kid.

I was like hugely fat. It was like 220 at 12. And so I was my birthday was 104 pounds. So I mean, I was always. You've really let yourself go. I let it. So my life was a child that was bullied and I would make the fat jokes first. So fat jokes were defense.

I learned that in my whole life that anything good happened to me came because I could make people laugh. So it was always something that I did. I worked for my parents at their carpet store for 20 years. And I didn't care if people bought carpet for me. But if they didn't laugh at my joke, I was devastated. So, I mean, it was always been about making people laugh. The stuff in your act, for instance, you know, you never drink alone.

Yeah, like, you know, I'm very proud of that. A lot of the other moms, they would sit around and drink all day. But I was disciplined because, you know, only alcoholics drink alone. I read all the pamphlets. I would always, I always waited until the kids get. home from school. That's, you know, sometimes I call in a fake dental appointment, you know, when I'm so parched. Yeah, right. But I did my best. Right, right. And, and when you, when you took your kids on field trips. Oh, yeah, that's another thing. My mother, you know, like of the last

generation, I think of women that party 24-7, you know, and I got kids, I'm thinking party, but the party was over, right? I didn't know. My mom and your friends always, always brought flas on field trips. I mean, I'm like, I'm going to get on a bus sober with first graders, not now, not ever. I don't get what. They do to me, right? So I go on my daughter's first field trip, and I take out my flask, and it is, it's not a big algae flask, you know, it's a very pretty, it's a little two-ounceer. Right. It's not, okay, how loaded could you get off of two ounces anyway? Right, right.

But I take it out, and I take a little, you know, sip and all the other moms on the field trip, they just go ballistic. They're like, you know, she's got a flash, she's got a flask, you know. And I'm like, calm down, you know, biotches. I'm not driving the bus. I am not trying to relax. So how much of your life? life is true. Are we going to find out you're living in a mansion?

Yes, you are. If I keep going, I'm going to buy a triple Y. You know, that's pretty much, you know, and the thing about the drinking alone, that was my mother. Every day I came home from school, my mother would sit there with her deck of cards between her legs, her moo-mo-mo-W-Wan inside out with a large amount of safety pins here in case 30 people needed a safety pin on every given day. She was a president of the PTA.

She was a treacher of the women's club. She was all those things, and she, you know, we'd come home and the first beer would open, boom, when we'd walk in that side door. And my mother was a fun woman. I started when I started stand-up telling that story. And audiences got worried for me that I had this terrible childhood with a crazy alcoholic mother. It wasn't like that. My mother was a blast, and she was, it wasn't like that. So I took that story of my mother, and I put it on me.

And, I mean, I do love to party. I'm not lying about that. Box wine is my life. But it's, but so everything in my, everything that I, that I talk about is coming from a truth that I know. Right. You know. And you, but you do live in a beautiful trailer. Glenn, you cannot dynamite me.

I've waited five years to buy the second best trailer in my trailer park. And I would like look at their trash can for like five years. I'd like, what's in there? I knew they liked Applebee's. That's all they knew. And then one day, the trash was empty. And I called the trailer park realtor Les. He's like 90.

I'm like, Les, I want to buy this trailer. He loaned me the money. I started AGT at the same time as trying to get this dream trailer. It all worked out. But, I mean, I'm so proud. I live on top of the hill. Look at ever. That's beautiful.

So you're out of the slums. You're looking down on the people. The old trailer part of the, I call that part of the park, the ghetto. I always call this the Heights. I don't talk to anyone below the lake, which is actually a drainage ditch, made it look like a lake. But I don't speak to those people anymore.

I wish I could, but I cannot. Right. Well, you're in a different class now. They can look up on the hill and be inspired. by what you've done. That's what I try to say. Right. Don't give up your dream.

So, you know, if you sold your high class, top of the hill, trailer park, you know, trailer there in California, you could probably live in a 20,000 square foot home here in Texas. You know, I love, you know, I always had a dream. Seven years ago, my friend Brett Frank, who lives in Denton, he saw me in Hollywood, flew me out here for his birthday party in Denton, his 30,000. birthday. I two-stepped all night. I had the time of my life. He and I took my promo back over here to the Dallas Improv seven years ago, asked him if I could do what set there. They never, you know, got back to me. It took me seven years to get here. I've always wanted to be in Texas.

I, something mystical and romantic and ever since that night, and, you know, Denton was on the border, but, I mean, I love it here. I would love to have a place on a lake here, a trailer. I would, you know, it have to be, I don't like drywall. I don't like drywall. I'm going to meet that right now. I just don't feel comfortable around it. I like to be slightly off the ground. See, in this part of the country, though, you're the first to be sucked up. You know what? You're right. In this part of the country, I'm going to take it back. I'm going to have to do, I'm going to have to face it.

Right. I don't want to get blown to Kansas. Right. Or you can have an underground trailer. Part of your trailer is underground that you go for safety. Back in just a second, with Vicki Barbalock, she is the winner of America's got talent. Top 10. She is now going to be in the Champions edition on NBC.

It begins January 7th. So Vicky is on tour now. She's going to Tacoma. Oh, Tacoma. I used to live by there. Now it's been 30 years. So pretty. Yeah, it's beautiful.

A lot of trailer people. A lot of trailer people. You love it. Then you're going to Portland. Yeah. Are you crazy? I'm excited to the Portlandia where it stays weird, the voodoo donuts. Yep.

Good luck. Women and Women First. Good luck. Come to Women and Women First while you're there. Oh, I'd love that. What's that? It's the, Portlandia is the show. It's a sketch comedy show.

And they're, I don't know, maybe their most famous sketch is a feminist bookstore. Yes. Oh, yeah. He's a real bookstore there. And it's insane. I love that sketch. It's going to be, yeah, I'm so excited. Then Nashville, Tennessee at Zanies, Huntsville, Alabama, stand-up live, stardome comedy

club in Hoover, Alabama. I can't wait to get there. Naples, Florida, off the hook. And then Rochester, New York comedy at the Carlson. That's just in January. Yeah. And then, yeah, it's crazy fine. I mean, I'm really excited about going around. This is what I always dreamed of doing. I would imagine some people compare you to kind of Roseanne. Yeah. How do you feel about that? Well, all fat people look like. And she did live in a trailer and we have brown hair. And in fact, you know, when I first met her, she left the comedy store before I came into the comedy store.

And I always was worried when she saw me, would she feel that I'm, you know, hacking her? But I was doing this show called Funniest's mom in America. She was the host. I was like, holy crows. She's going to, is she here the night I auditioned? They said, no. And then I heard of this hacking laugh. And I knew it was her. And she came up to me and she was so kind. She said, I love you. And she totally got that we were different.

And I wrote for her and she was really good to me. You did right for her? Wow. So it was wonderful, yeah. I hear she's not easy to work with. You know, I just, you know, I just realized we weren't going to be best friends because she was who she was. She was, you know, Roseanne and I was a little me. Right.

So I would just send her this stuff and she would send me a check and she was kind and she had me open for her in Vegas once. And it was, yeah, it was. So are you somebody who, I mean, you win the million dollars or whatever it is and you, you know, you're a big huge star and you're going cross country? What's going to change about you? You know, I, you know, I don't know that that's much going to change. I think because this big success hit me when I'm 60. I think that it's just different than if you hit your earlier. I mean, I got my grandkids a go cart for Christmas.

That was like a dream come true. I'm going to say that. But other than that, I mean, like, I'm not leaving my trailer. I might get another trailer in L.A. when I'm working there. But I mean, my whole, I don't think, I've been so happy doing stand-up. I've been just so happy the last 20 years. What did you do before that? I worked for my parents' carpet store for 20 years.

I mean, it was crazy. I mean, it was just, my parents just. It was the craziest time. And that's why comics go, comedy's a struggle. It's so hard. I'm like, try working at a carpet store with your crazy parents for 20 years.

Because they would, they would sleep at the carpet store. Our carpet shop was attached to a liquor store. Literally, by the wall was a liquor store. The wall, liquor store us. So my parents were like, we would start drinking in the afternoon. They'd pass out about 9 o'clock when we closed.

People would come in in the morning. The door was unlocked. They'd just walk into the shop. Mom and dad would be sprawled out on the carpet rolls. Are you open? Oh, yeah, can we help you? There was not even a blink. And we sold only seconds and irregulars.

I mean, you only shop there if you were desperate or super rich. And, you know, it was just, it was my dad every morning had a pep talk in his office. I'm going to hire nothing but A holes. I'm going to take an ad under A. That was our morning pitch. It was. What brought you to California? My dad started, he managed carpet stores when I was little.

And they moved him every year. And finally when I was 19, he opened up our first shop in Oceanside. And that's where we stayed. And how long have you lived in California then? I've lived in Oceanside for 40 years. 40 years. Yeah. California, I grew up on the West Coast.

I grew up in Seattle. Yeah. And California 40 years ago is not California today. It's nuts. It is nuts. I swear, I'm my little enclave of Oceanside. It's protected by Camp Pendleton Marine Corps base, which I love because, you know, at any given day, there's 30,000 gorgeous Marines walking around.

I mean, I think because we have the base there, our town stays a similar, like, it doesn't gentrify to the level of the other beach towns around us. So I'm just so grateful to be in Oceanside. It's a little, like, when I go to L.A. to work and stuff, it's like, uh-huh, yeah. But, I mean, where we are, it's like a secret little spot. I mean, it's going to change. I think it is with San Diego as well. I mean, it just, the Camp Pendleton changes the, you know, the seals and the, yeah, it just stops.

And the, yeah, it just stops the insanity a little bit. Yeah, I'm so lucky. And my son-in-law's a retired gunny. So I get to be at the beach at Camp Pendleton on Christmas Day. We always spend Christmas at the beach on Camp Pendleton. Like, I mean, I just, and the Marine Corps car washes, ladies, if you visit San Diego, don't go to the zoo. Go to the front gate of Camp Pendleton. You sit in your car.

Twelve Marines wearing little green shorts wash your car. It's unbelievable. And that is, that's what you might do for. Every Sunday, every Saturday, all summer long. All summer long. you will find me. Right. Because I'm a giver.

Sympir. You're tremendous. You're just tremendous. Thank you so much for having me on. Big honor. It is, it's great to see somebody who is pursuing what they love because they love it and for no other reason and then hitting it.

And I'm just thrilled. No other reason. I mean, you have the trailer on the hill. I mean, well, let's face it. Yeah.

I mean, there is that. I had a double wide dream. And comedy made it come true. Where can people go to find out where to find you if they missed the dates? On my Vicky Barberlech Facebook page is always my calendar. And I have a website. It's called Vicky Barbaralackcom.

It's on the brink of teeter. But hopefully it'll work if you guys look into it, Vickibarrelatcomedy. Or my Facebook page. Or you can all call me, 760523. You also started a new podcast. Yeah, Vigy Barberlack, Nasty and also I am an ordained a wedding minister.

I have a business called Wedding Chapel to Go. Are you a minister of the universal? Of the leopard cloth. Of the leopard cloth. And I offer a 2995 half hour honeymoon as part of my service. I have a wedding van. It pops out and we just do pop up weddings. And so the 20 minute, did you say honeymoon?

30 minute half hour honeymoon, 2995. I have kept that price stable. Right. Yeah. Right. And that's in that happens in the back of the van. And it's a wonderful experience for the happy couple. And you can renew your vows, too.

And I do a lot of anniversary renewals. I do, you know, anniversary parties. And we could also offer the 29-95, you know, for that. You know, maybe we should have, maybe we should have, like, we do next year, maybe we could get you back. We should do like a bowling, I mean, it's not a van. Right. But we could, you know, it's a national show.

So maybe we could do like a bowling alley wedding and you could officiate. Absolutely. I would love to do that. I have my own bowling shoes and back. So you're ready. So we should let's do that next to you. You come back. Okay.

You can and we'll find the perfect couple for the bowling alley wedding. I love it. Somebody is going to want to get married next year in a bowling alley on this show. Keep us in mind. Yeah. Vicky, thank you so much. Thank you so much, Glenn. You can find her at vicki barbeloc.com.

Vicki Barbelock. Find her at Facebook. And if she's coming near you, make sure you see her. She is great. You're listening to Glenn Beck.