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Episode Date: August 28, 2023Glenn and Stu discuss the worsening race relations due to the Left’s rhetoric revolving around race in the wake of the latest apparent race-related shooting. Mercury One executive director J.P. De...cker joins to discuss the distrust Maui citizens have toward all government, even local, as the names of those still missing are being withheld. Historian and author of “The Fourth Turning Is Here” Neil Howe joins to explain what turnings are and when our current era of civil unrest will end. Glenn and Stu ponder whether Trump’s mug shot will backfire on the Left while reviewing President Biden’s “Bidenomics” political ad. Will we soon have to deal with new COVID-19 policies? President Trump’s federal court date has been set, one day before Super Tuesday for a handful of states. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Well, hello, Stu. How are you?
Glenn, how's your weekend? It was pretty good. It was pretty good.
Yours? Not bad. Not bad at all. Yeah. Good. Well, that's wonderful.
It wasn't 114 degrees every day.
Not every day. No. I mean, there's a moment there where I hit like 98 and I was like, wow, this is paradise.
Yeah. You know, I put up, where's my sweater? Uh-huh. It was it was 101 at the football game.
at 9 p.m. on Friday. It's great. 101. It's been wonderful. You know what? I've converted
global warming is the most evil thing in the world, at least for a couple more weeks. Yeah. So
it's called summer in Texas. Oh, yeah, it's not called global warming. No, it's called summer
in Texas. So it's wonderful. Very, very wonderful. So the big story, we're kind of,
I don't know. We're kind of dealing with, we're kind of dealing with,
the same crap. If you look at the shooting in Florida, it's the same crap. It's a Nazi with a gun.
Okay. Got it. Nazis, bad. Guns neutral. Let's make sure that Nazis don't have guns. Might be a good idea.
Unfortunately, the communists are trying to make sure that no one has guns except for them.
It's a bad thing.
Because those Nazis don't typically listen to rules all that well.
I know. I know.
When they're made by people who they don't like.
Yeah.
The thing that fascinated me a little bit about that story was, number one, how it's a national story.
Like, look, it sounds like a really terrible incident, obviously.
Like, you know, anytime there's a shooting of three people, it's a terrible incident.
But, like, how many times does it happen in Chicago or every other major city?
You never hear about it.
And I guess it's not a story when the people have the same color skin doing it to each other.
If it's two white people doing it to each other or two black people doing to each other, we don't report on it at all.
But because this manifesto, which we suddenly have almost immediately, which I thought was not the pattern anymore.
I thought we had to wait months and months and months for politically based ideological rants about murders.
All of a sudden we have it right away in this case.
and because it's apparently
an completely insane person
with a dash of racism
or maybe a heaping spoonful of racism
involved. Maybe a shovel of racism.
But like seemingly other indications
it was beyond racism like real mental health
difficulties and insanity going on.
But we learn about that right away
and it's to me kind of amazing
how quickly we've had this total turnaround.
You go back and look at polls from 15, 20 years ago
and you see,
see, America was pretty close to having racism solved.
That's not by me saying it.
It's the people who were living at the time, including African Americans, saying like, yeah, things are pretty good race-wise.
And it's completely fallen apart ever since we've decided to try this solution of, hey, everybody,
what if we all say that all white people are racist no matter what they do or say?
And we'll also say all black people are victims and have no chance of success.
seating on their own no matter what they do or say.
And let's give that a shot for a couple decades and see how it turns out.
Not well, apparently.
Yeah, I think we've done it.
We're just a few years from two decades of doing it.
2028 will be the 20th anniversary of, you know, racial and social justice.
The post-racial period.
Yes.
And the post-racial period.
And it's not turning out to be quite like that.
Just elect Barack Obama.
Yeah.
The post-racial period.
It'll be wonderful.
And it's funny because you remember.
we were of course covering that back in the day and I remember walking we did this coverage and we
were in New York City at the time and I remember walking to the hotel I was staying at from the studios
and you know people were in again remember this is New York City people are in the streets
celebrating you know you know in the streets trying to not just because he was a Democrat
but I think larger because he was black it was like a first black president and even though I thought
he was going to be a terrible president and you thought he was going to be a terrible president
and everyone in this audience thought he was going to be a terrible president.
There was still that piece of like, well, you know, there's a real cost to this because he's going to be a bad president.
But at least it's good that like we can all put this race thing finally behind us.
Like this is ridiculous.
Obviously we elected a black president.
Yeah.
This is not a racist country.
Yeah.
Completely wrong.
Yeah.
But the total opposite way in every single possible.
First president is like, I am powerless.
Yeah, right.
I am powerless.
I got here despite all the racists in the country.
And you're like, wait, what?
What happened?
How did that way?
What?
That's not.
Yeah, the clan, they were out, they were out in force, voting for Barack Obama, I guess.
I mean, how else did he win if we're all clans members?
Yeah.
Amazing.
What a weird, weird, weird time.
Weird way.
Every piece of medicine they've tried to apply to this problem has done the exact reverse.
But at least it's only in one category.
For instance, it's not in like education, you know.
The more the progressive gets involved in education.
the worse the education gets.
Okay, that's two examples, though.
That's all you have.
You have nothing else other than those two.
Well, you know, we have the more they try it to lower gas prices through regulation, the higher the gas price goes.
Well, sure.
I mean, that one's well known, but that's really about it.
You also have, you know, this promise of equality and, you know, blacks had and minorities had the best they've ever had in success and, you know, blacks had.
prosperity under Donald Trump, but now that they've promised that they were going to equalize
things and make things better for the working class blacks and Hispanics, they're no longer
enjoying that prosperity.
Yeah, it's a story today that's skyrocketing.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
So that's weird.
Wow.
It's a stunner.
It's weird.
It's almost like everything they touch turns to garbage.
I was going to use a different word than that.
Yes.
It's, you know, hey, our, our inflation reduction act.
does the exact opposite.
Sure.
Yeah.
But yeah.
I mean, you have a few thousand examples and that's about it.
Okay, that's it.
You know, I only have everything they do and say how much.
We're going to reimagine the police and make our community safer.
Has that worked?
Well, my question.
My question is, have you had enough yet?
Have you had enough yet?
Do you have enough evidence yet?
Because I do.
I've had it for quite some time.
But, you know, maybe I was just quick on the uptake on this particular thousand issues.
But, you know, when have you had enough?
And you realize, I think when you look at our major cities around the country, there's never a time they get it.
No.
It never comes.
You could put the same people in office for a hundred years.
They have.
And they have.
And they failed for a hundred.
hundred years and they will still elect the same people.
I know.
It's like it's incomprehensible.
Honestly, like, wouldn't you just try something else out of default?
Right?
Like, just like, you know what?
I don't know.
Look, the whole low taxes freedom thing sounds terrible to me, but maybe we should
give it a world?
Right?
Like, isn't there a moment you consider that?
And the answer largely is no.
No, no.
They don't.
Never consider it.
New York.
Same thing.
And it kills me the,
the way New York is now reacting to the migrant problem.
Oh, my gosh, it is.
It's crippling New York City.
And they've got like, what, 35,000?
And it's just crippling them.
They can't handle it.
Have you been to Houston?
Have you been to Dallas?
Have you been to the border?
Have you been to Arizona?
I mean, what do you talking about?
Have you been to California?
Yeah, because New York, you don't even have to fly.
The only difference between you and Los Angeles now, palm trees, that's it.
Oh, and snotty celebrities.
No, you've got enough snotty celebrities there.
It's fascinating to watch this because, of course, obviously, places like Texas and other border states have been complaining about this forever and saying, like, we've got a real problem here.
No one's helping us.
And, you know, but it's amazing.
to see like a few buses.
Like this is what set you over the edge.
Your society was so close to the edge
that a few buses of people
that you said you wanted, by the way.
We should point out you were welcoming.
You're a sanctuary city.
You wanted this so badly.
A few buses show up from the south
and all of a sudden you can't run your society anymore.
You know, I will say like, you know, Texas for all,
it gets all, you know, all this beating about how these evil right
wingers and how they hate immigrants.
You know, like, look.
Our day-to-day life in Texas is filled with interactions with illegal immigrants.
They live in our society all around us and largely we just get along with them.
Now, we all realize there are societal issues with our law and how that works, but like,
generally speaking, like, we wish the law was applied better, but like if they're here,
like, you have interactions with them, they're like any other person.
and we treat them like every other person,
even though we don't think the law is being applied appropriately.
New York's like they see four people with like Hispanic last names
and they just decide they're going to abandon the state.
Like, what is happening?
Why can't you figure this out?
Because here's the difference.
In Texas, generally speaking, you know, they'll go to work.
Yeah, exactly.
In New York, they go to the plaza.
And why would they go to work?
Why would you?
You know, in Texas, like you do get, look, there are definitely.
people living off the dole.
Like the criticisms we have of this system are real.
But like, you're right.
A lot of people come here, even though they're not supposed to be here, and they
shouldn't be here because they're breaking the lobby here.
But they go every day and they work and they interact with people and have a relatively
normal life.
And while there are major problems, somehow Texas has been able to do it with without, by
the way, a state income tax, I should point out.
They are somehow able to keep.
We're keeping this.
running with, I don't know, 10 times, 20 times as many illegal immigrants and no state
income tax.
And yet this place runs 100 times better than New York.
I lived there.
I was born there.
I know.
It runs much, much better.
I've lived in both places.
It's not close.
So what is the problem?
I don't know.
Could it go back to the original part of this conversation?
No, I don't think so.
I mean, because look, our schools are safer now.
All of our schools, they're all saying, you know, we want children to feel safe.
safe to express who they are and be safe.
And there's a teacher of the month, Casey McGrath.
She is fabulous.
Just one teacher of the month.
And she's got this little thing.
She was raping a student at the time.
But I think those are separate.
What?
She won't teacher of the month in the same month as this was going on?
Well, she was unlawfully and knowingly engaging in.
sexual penetration with a person of at least 13 years.
Okay, so, you know.
Was it one of those things where, like, she had been doing this the month before and
stopped and they said good improvement?
No, I don't.
No, I don't think so.
And another teacher in New York City who posted on social media about teaching children
consent, you know, we got to make sure that we teach our kids about consent and, hey,
they can consent.
apparently she taught it really well to a 14-year-old student.
She taught it to that 14-year-old student over and over and over again for many, many months.
A lot of dedication to the curriculum there.
So I don't know about you.
Again, I'm going to promise you your kids are going to feel safe.
And, well, they're not.
No, no, they're not.
They're not. That's weird.
Again, name the policy, name the thing that they're saying they're trying to stop.
stop and show me the policy where it hasn't gotten a thousand times worse.
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By the left, and CNN has just come out with a new report, speaking of education.
Since 2021, state lawmakers have introduced nearly 400 bills aimed at giving parents, government officials, and concerned citizens, the ability to challenge or monitor what schools teach about race and gender issues, according to a new report.
While many of these laws stop short of directly censoring what is taught in classrooms, the analysis now has found that many of the proposed bills have had a, quote, chilling effect.
on public education.
Uh-oh.
That sounds bad.
Educators told the advocacy group that they, the advocacy group that they now fear that they
could be held criminally liable and lose their jobs for teaching prohibited concepts.
Wow, wait a minute.
Hardcore porn.
So you should be.
So in other words, you are teaching children and you're afraid you might be arrested if you're
You're teaching them about child mutilation.
Well, we just heard about a couple of teachers who were teaching their kids something very, very important.
In a very personal, you know, one-on-one sort of way.
As you point out, over and over and over and over again.
So, yeah, you know what?
You can get arrested for that sort of behavior.
You know, that's weird.
As a teacher, you would have to worry about that because, like, I don't worry about that.
You're at my job?
I don't worry about that.
I say something.
I teach something that is wholly inappropriate.
I don't worry about my job.
There's no way they could fire me.
You know, I could get on here and do anything I want.
Really?
Yeah.
And I think most people are like that in their jobs.
Yeah.
You know, they could have the, you know, the boss come into him and say, don't do this.
And they're like, I'll do whatever I want.
And they don't get fired.
That's employment for you.
Yeah.
That's how it.
So teachers, I think you've, I think you have it.
I think you have it.
It's funny because it's the left that really wanted to have centralized
control of education.
And so they implement, you know,
they work forever to
expand the role of government
in our schools. And then
someone else gets elected that they
don't like who now has that power.
And they don't like that. And they don't like.
And it's a catastrophe. Hey, hey, hey, hey, I have
an idea. I have an idea.
That's why
you don't want to have a government
that is so big
that it tells you
what you can and cannot do.
Yeah, I don't know about that.
That sounds bad.
I think what we want to do is just always get our guy elected for 100% of the time forever.
No, I don't think that's a good idea.
Yeah, I don't think that's a good idea.
Think of the, think this.
Think this through.
So you have a government that could not tell the local schools what to do,
but you had a local government that was strong enough to arrest people for having sex with teachers.
you're really walking a line there.
It's a balance.
I don't know if that's possible.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, just you're saying in some sort of futuristic world.
No, I'm thinking like right now.
No, I'm thinking like right now, you know, would be good.
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That's not changed?
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Over the, well, all households combined you're talking about, right?
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Why would we be $39 over the life of the ceiling fan?
Now, let's be honest.
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It usually is, right?
Yeah.
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There's a couple of things going on to we should report.
First of all, the power company, the Hawaiian Electric Company, has removed all of the
you know, all of the, the transformers and the poles and the wires and some would call it evidence.
But they've removed all of that from the scene.
And they said that's, they only did that because, well, they don't own any of the land.
You know, they're just beyond the power substation.
So they wanted to clean it up, make sure that everything was good.
They said they took pictures, though.
So that's good.
That's good.
Yeah.
You know, pictures worth.
thousand words, Glenn. Yeah, it really is. What a surprise. This is a, you know,
public-private partnership with the government, too. Yeah. Yeah. I'm
really surprised. It didn't work out really well. It never does. Never does. They never seem to
do their job. By the way, they only released, what was it, 300 names of the missing on Friday.
There's 1,100 people still missing. And, I mean, I don't know why they're saying it that way.
it's I mean it's not that big of an island I hate to be I don't mean to be callous on this but it's not
that big of an it's not like it's not like somebody you know is wandering off and is lost or
whatever I mean it's not that big and you know what it would what would it be yeah somebody
with Alzheimer's maybe okay yeah that's a possibility right a kid maybe maybe but I doubt it
I mean yeah but it's possible theoretically possible because yeah well
Why would you be missing?
Or somebody who's like just trying to disappear.
Right.
Yeah.
You know.
Faking their death.
I mean,
out of,
out of that many missing.
Certainly not understand.
Certainly not 5%.
Right.
No.
Like,
what is the number here?
I mean,
God.
And you think about this.
If all these people that are missing are gone,
I mean,
you know,
this is a horrible.
I mean,
and this might be why they're holding it back.
Like they don't want people to,
to really,
you know,
come to the point where they
recognize what's happened here?
This is maybe, I don't know.
I don't know what it is.
J.P. Decker, he is Mercury One's executive director.
He was an executive producer for me and a producer for a very long time.
He's now over at Mercury One.
And I believe you leave Hawaii today.
Do you not?
JP?
Yes, sir.
Yeah, yeah, I leave tonight.
So is there any explanation why they are still holding these names?
Glenn, I have, you know, we've been here almost five days.
days, and that is one thing that every single local is confused on that we've spoken with.
I've spoken with a lot of people, and they said, we don't trust anyone.
We do not trust what's coming out of the government.
We don't trust what's coming out of not just the state of Hawaii, but the county, and then also our federal government.
How do they not?
I mean, that is terrifying that they don't even believe the county.
No, and go ahead.
No, no, go ahead.
Well, it's just one word, though, about the locals that's come up while we're, you know, talking with some of these stories are just, again, horrific.
But these are some of the most resilient people I've ever met in my life.
They, yesterday, just a quick story yesterday, we connected with this surfer.
He's a pretty famous surfer on the island.
And they said, hey, you know, we're getting a shipment from one of the other islands.
surfboards and fishing equipment. And I said, one, we went and helped. We were in the water.
We were pulling surfboards off the boat. We were doing, you know, getting fishing supplies.
And I said, what is going on here? And they said, most of these kids lost their surfboards
in the mental health crisis that is here right now from seeing people burning in cars,
from seeing their family members in their homes. This is the only thing that's going to bring
this community back to what we know and we love. And so,
So this guy is going to take kids, surfboards that were donated from other islands.
And then the fishing supplies is just going to go to these local fishermen who lost literally everything.
These are the guys who go out and buy the fish for all the tourists.
And speaking with these people.
And for me, yesterday we were at church, Harvest Church, which is one of our partners.
And I was standing next to one of the worship leaders' wives.
who lost everything in this fire.
She's just bawling and crying out, and they're singing this one of these songs,
and it's about how God is still in control in this disaster.
And it was a powerful moment for me.
I think this is the first time that I finally broke down from seeing the damage
and seeing what this city is going through.
And the one thing that really hits close to home is these are Americans.
These are our brothers and sisters.
This isn't just another story in the news cycle that's going to disappear.
These are our people.
And the fact that the government has just decided to, one, block everyone from going back in still.
There's a few people that have been able to go back in and look at their homes.
But, too, I mean, we've gone past, we have to drive through part of Lina every single day
if we want to get to another part of the island.
And you see the destruction and you smell the smoke.
You smell the ashes.
And, you know, those black walls that are going up on the road that everyone says the
government's covering up, the ashes, all this.
And it's what we've learned, what we've seen across the whole island, are those black
walls are so the ashes of any of those humans get lost.
It's just, it's devastating, Glenn.
Devastating.
I know, you know, people ran into the water.
And how many people, I mean, how far in the water did they go?
I hear some of them were in the water for eight or ten hours just treading water.
Is that true?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Glenn, we were with a coming down towards the ocean, and she had to run, jump in the ocean with a big group of people.
She doesn't know how many, but a big group of people, and they all jump in.
They treaded water and swam around her drowned.
Oh, my gosh.
She's trying to rescue these people, these kids, these dads, these moms, these grandparents,
parents. But she
couldn't do anything. And so
she just
tried to tread and swim, but everyone around
her drowned. They ended up finding her eight hours
later, alive, this lady,
a mile off the coast.
This shouldn't have happened
this way. How did
there not? Where were the people? Yeah, where were the
coast guard boats or whatever
boats? What, why?
Yep. What happened?
Every single local that I
have spoken to are asking the same question.
they're asking, you know, we've got installments all around this area on all these islands.
Where was the military?
And, you know, we've heard stories of some Navy Seals coming in and, you know, just helping.
And then some Chinooks that came in and helped try to rescue.
And the Coast Guard came in later on to try to help.
But we did confirm with a couple locals who ran out that the police were so scared of the power lines that fell through the wind that people were not
allowed to get out of Lahaina. And during these fires, because the police were blocking off,
because they didn't want them to run into the power lines that were still alive. Which is the
job of the power company that always happens. A power line goes down and you shut everything off.
Why didn't they shut it off? They don't, they don't want to, they haven't come out yet and said
They don't want to incriminate.
I mean, they don't want to say.
The other day, we were eating at a local restaurant, and we smelled a fire.
This was the one that kind of, you probably might have heard about, but there was a pretty
large grass fire that was going towards Lahaina.
And so we smelled it.
And then what's interesting, though, we're at this restaurant, and there's a FEMA person,
there's a Red Cross person.
there's a guy who lost everything.
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And the power goes out, and all of our phones, emergency phone, you know what that's like.
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One, most of the people that are in that room didn't know quite what to do, which was interesting.
I mean, and then the guy who lost his home, he's just, there's tears.
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There is no escape route.
Lahaina is the escape route.
You go through that street.
There is no medical team on this side.
There's no hospital on this side of the island.
And, I mean, you have to go 45 minutes if something were to happen.
And we've heard stories of some of the burn victims who ended up getting in those,
the two ambulances on this side of the island and died in the ambulance, trying to get
get to a hospital.
So, I mean, with what we're doing with Mercury One is incredible because within the first
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showed up with Starlink to provide internet for the community, because for three or four
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alive to their families and friends in the mainland. And one, why was it a nonprofit that came in
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and right now this island doesn't need the food and water what they need is the mental health there's already been about five or six suicides and that's just when you lose everything including your family including your family and but the mental health side is something that we're going to be focused on and it we spoke with a local restaurant on the other day and he just again Glenn you know we brought cameras to help tell the story of
of what Mercury 1 and our partners have been doing on the ground,
what we're going to do, because we're not here just for a small amount of time.
We're here for the long haul.
We don't, I mean, when you started this, you say we're in the first ones in,
and last one's out.
That's what we do.
And so we, you know, I was talking about the restaurant, and he just breaks down.
And, you know, we didn't have the cameras with us.
And you see, you know, all these people have been coming in with cameras.
They've just been coming in and just want to take our story and then we just leave again.
And we've had business guys.
This is what this guy said.
Businessmen come in with one.
Lodds of cash, drop it on our table and say, I'll buy you out.
And I will, I will, you know, just buy you.
This guy has put up 20 of his staff in his restaurant.
He's been providing hundreds of meals a day to people.
I tried to offer some help.
And he said, I don't want help.
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And when we say 100% goes, and that's usually what I would tell these people,
hey, we're not your normal nonprofit.
We're not a profit who takes overhead.
We want to give 100% to this island.
And that's what we do.
That's the most powerful thing that, and they're shocked at it.
I know you take overhead all this.
No, we don't.
But I think, you know, anyways, I know I'm telling so many different stories,
but this is one for me personally, it's changed my life on what community looks like.
These people are exactly what community.
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I have wanted to talk to Neil Howe for,
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never had the chance to do it.
He has a new book out called The Fourth Turning is here.
The Fourth Turning is something that he wrote back in 97, I think, with William Strauss.
It was an incredibly impactful book.
This is where you get the millennials.
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But we have his partner who has taken this now to the next level.
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It is a moment of crisis, but I think you're going to like the positivity
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I am a huge fan.
Your book, The Fourth Turning, made a huge impact in my life.
Oh, thank you, Glenn.
It's great to be on your show.
Thank you.
So the Fourth Turning is here.
I have been reading, and before we get to, the Fourth Turning is here.
Can you explain the turnings, if you will?
Yeah, this was something that Bill
and I developed, actually, we did an earlier book back in 1991 called Generations,
and it was really looking at generations as the source of a historical change,
meaning, you know, generations are shaped differently. You know, each generation is uniquely
shaped by its childhood experiences and as it comes of age, right, its experiences coming of age.
And then about 30 or 40 years later, as parents and leaders, they in turn shape history, right?
Right.
And we, generations is the first collective biography of America that anyone had ever written,
that is to say retelling the entire story of America as a sequence of generational biographies, right?
In other words, following the same group of people throughout their entire life,
and then starting with the next group of people.
And what we found was that generations are very different.
This has always been true.
It's not just, you know, Xers and boomers, or millennials and Xers.
were accustomed to today or boomers and their World War II parents, right?
Right.
Deep differences have been with us since the founding since the 17th century.
And what occurred to us as we were writing that book is that this is the source of some of the
otherwise unexplainable regularities in the rhythms of American history.
I mean, for example, the fact that we have these enormous,
periods of civic creative destruction when the entire country goes through an upheaval of,
of, you know, politics and economics, we really redefine what our republic is. And this happens
about the length of a long human life apart, right? We had this period of revolution and rebellion
in the late 17th century, kind of coinciding with a glorious revolution. And then about a
lifetime later we had the American Revolution, then we had the Civil War, then we had World War II
in the Great Depression, and here we are again, Glenn. You know what I mean? This is like the ticking
of a talk, you know, or a clock. And roughly halfway in between these upheavals in the outer world,
when we redefine politics and economics and infrastructure and all that, we have these upheavals
in the inner world, which very conveniently in American history,
we number. So we called them the first grade awakening, the second great awakening, and so forth.
And this struck us as having very interesting generational roots, generational continuity, right?
Because it's generations that come of age during an awakening that later in old age usually take America into the next crisis.
Generations which, you know, come of age during a crisis usually preside over the next awakening later in life.
And this has been true since, you know, Ralph Waldo Emerson and Walt Whitman, a generation of prophets and religion founders and, you know, commune leaders and who attended the Civil War.
And it was true for the generation born just after the Civil War who took us really were the wise old men and women of the World War II era.
but it suggests a rhythm, and that's what we wanted to write about.
Now, this rhythm has four phases.
It's kind of like seasons of the year.
If you look at the spring season, this is the period in which institutions are strong,
individualism is weak, and this is what we, recently in American history,
we all recall the American high.
This was after World War II, right?
This was the presidencies of Truman and Eisenhower and John Kennedy.
Society had a very definite idea of where it wanted to go collectively.
But as individuals, we were very modest, right, about what we wanted.
It was, as William White wrote in the organization, man, people had a strong social ethic.
The duty of each individual is to fit in.
I mean, that's what we were supposed to do, right?
Each person had a job to do based on gender, based on, you know,
your aptitude for different kind of profession.
And that was it.
You didn't have much aspirations beyond that.
We were modest individually, but the nation did incredible things collectively.
I mean, everything from interstate highways to launching the Apollo moon launch programming,
you know, and we managed to balance the budget every year, right, while feeding the world
and presiding over that period of growing global order and prosperity.
The second turning was the awakening,
and that was the period that many listeners probably remember, maybe as kids.
This was the 60s, 70s, early 80s,
and this was a period when all of the American wanted to throw off all that social obligation,
all that conformity, all those rules.
and it started really with, started more on the left.
There's no question about that, mainly in the culture, throwing off, you know, patriarchy and military conscription and all the rest.
And it ended, I think, a little bit more on the conservative side, you know, throwing out regulations, cutting taxes and all the rest.
And so, but the one theme was we wanted to be a less ordered society.
We wanted individuals to kind of go more of their own way.
way. And the biggest nightmare for boomers at that time was the oppressive middle class,
right? Plessent Valley Sunday, that was their worst nightmare. And they talked to millennials today.
It's like middle class. Sounds like a great idea. Where do we sign up?
You see the difference, right? And then you have the third turning, which is, we call an unraveling,
and that's in many ways the opposite of a high.
Individualism is strong and flourishing.
Institutions are weak and discredited.
And when we think of paradigmatic decades of an unraveling,
we think of the roaring 90s, the 1990s.
We also think of the roaring 20s, the 1850s, the 1760s.
These were all decades of cynicism and bad manners acting out in the culture,
disrespecting authority.
And in general, my,
kind of the key book of the 1990s to me was Francis Fukuyama.
You remember the end of history.
Yeah.
We were all, the government was going to fade away.
We would all be individuals living wherever in the world we wanted,
I guess, you know, on our laptops and a Starbucks somewhere,
just contracting with each other and enjoying.
infinite possibilities, right? We wouldn't have families, we wouldn't have roots, we wouldn't
have, right? That was the image, right, of a world of individuals that would need anything.
And so individualism totally triumphed, no institution or community left. But history shows us that
third turnings inevitably lead to fourth turnings. And that's when instead of wanting to rebel
against order, society wants more order. And that's what we're living into today. And the cutting
edge generation for the awakening was boomers, but the cutting edge generation now is millennials. And
they want more ordered life. I mean, you see it. They want more community. Their greatest fear is
loneliness. It's FOMO. You know what I mean? And the way they invest is crowd investing. I mean,
they're all in these huge, you know, everything, ETFs, right?
So if the market goes up or down, they all go down, up and down together.
And the entire world is being buffeted by this.
And we see this in these new populist movements around the world, often overtly authoritarian,
because people want authority back again.
It's as simple as that.
And we've seen this before, and we're seeing it again.
And so the purpose of, as you know, the purpose of my writing the book is to take this up to date, to bring it up to today.
Right.
And to hypothesize a little bit on where we're going and what the schedule is and, you know, what I expect.
Okay.
So, you know, there's three theories out there that I have kind of melded into one.
yours, and I don't know if you've read Michael Drew's work, Pendulum, how past generations shape
our present and predict our future. He describes it as a pendulum and describes much of what
you guys worked out. But he shows it's an 80-year cycle. You're showing it's an 80-year cycle.
And then the third theory that I've always found interesting is the Kondrachia of Wave, which is
also an 80 year cycle. And it's all spring, uh, summer, the arrogance of summer. It's never going to
end into, uh, fall, you know, hey, let's deny this, deny this, deny this. Oh, it looks like
everything is dying to winter. And then the green shoots again of, of spring. And we are,
if I understand, we are now heading into winter, correct? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, we're well into winter.
Well into winter.
Yeah, I mean, we started, I think we entered this area.
I mean, these are eras.
These are generation-long eras.
So these are, you know, 22 years or so, right?
And we entered it with 2008, the global financial crisis.
When we saw so many things begin to change, we saw democracies decline at the expense of authoritarian governments.
We saw global trade begin to decline as a share of global.
product. I mean, in many ways, it was analogous to 1929, right? Which is also a great global,
you know, financial collapse, right? So we've seen that, but we still have a ways to go.
Right. And, you know, when Kondrakiev, who was a Stalin's economic advisor, when he was asked,
what's better capitalism, communism, he said it's seasonal. And you look at things and
capitalism is better because communism, when it starts to go cold into winter, the system
props everything up. And so the system falls apart in the end. It can't prop up life. It's got to go
in through these cycles. And we're doing that since 2008. We're propping everything up. So it doesn't
go into a hard freeze, but we've bastardized everything. And I'm wondering, do they always have to end
in like war?
Well, typically they have.
You know, every
total war in American history has occurred during a
fourth turning. And every fourth turning is at a total war.
It's a pretty close correspondence.
I would say it, you know, I don't like to be a pessimist,
so I like to say what it precisely requires is not so much war.
What it requires is
collective mobilization on a mass scale.
And it's really hard to see how you do that other than sort of organized conflict.
But what happens typically is that as society begins to re-seek order, it begins to collectivize again.
Today we see in America, blue zone, red zone, right?
I mean, this new tribal mentality.
This is what we got during the 1930s.
Half of America thought that the 1930s was the red zone.
decade. The other half thought it was the fascist decade. You know what I'm talking about?
I mean, these are the people that, you know, Franklin, Stalin-O Roosevelt, right?
Right. Well, and we have the new movie Oppenheimer out. So we now realize how many of the
greatest generation, as young men and women in the early 20s, we're communist. Right.
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So one thing before we go on to where we're headed, it is interesting to me that America has had these turnings along with all of the West, for instance, American Revolution, the French Revolution.
World War
World War II was the same
you know
same thing that was happening over at Germany
was happening over here
we had different results
but there's the
we generation and the me generation
and these things generally
happen do they not in the we generation
when we're all
we're all collective
we generations
are are made
not born right
Yes. I mean, and that's the important part.
So how do we avoid what, how do we avoid going in when we have a collective mindset going into something very un-American?
You know, this has been a struggle since the beginning.
Every time, because America is by its culture and by its heritage, a individualist kind of, you know, society.
And war has been difficult for that reason.
It was difficult for the revolutionaries.
You know, George Washington implored again and again, you know,
that Congress should then authorize him for this great continental army.
He needed to fight the British.
And of course, there were a lot of foot draggers and people who didn't want to do that,
similarly in the Civil War, similarly in World War II.
It was Roosevelt was very slow to be able to actually enact conscription.
Correct.
And we came very late to the table to the fight against fascism.
And so it is a problem.
And forth turnings, by their very nature, of collective mobilization, put democracy to the test.
Right.
We're already seeing it today in America.
Yeah.
So with all of the things that are happening now, I've learned so much from you, I think, on what the role of people my age is supposed to be.
And I'd like you to take us through what's coming and what each of us in our generations need to do and show us the hero generation that is coming.
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And when you have that understanding of what is coming with the hero generation,
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Joining us again, he is the author of The Fourth Turning is here.
A recent bestseller, it is out and available,
and I highly recommend you read it.
Neil, tell us what's coming and how best to prepare
and what our roles are.
Well, what's coming is the climax.
You know, we've been in this period where tribal loyalties are deepening.
America's relationships and certain other parts of the world are fraying, fears of American breakup and even the possibility of civil conflict is rising.
And history suggests that that should climax sometime in the next decade.
we think this period will be over and a new first turning will begin by the early 2030s, right?
So that gives us about a decade.
And I think what you asked was the different roles generations will play, which is very interesting.
I mean, typically what we call the profit archetype, which is the aging, you know, generation that comes of age during the awakening,
is typically, as it was for Abraham Lincoln's generation, is a generation which is a generation, which is,
very dominant in the culture all their lives, as boomers have been.
You know, I can't think of a millennial who doesn't know 60s and 70s music really, really well.
And for many of us, boomers, we didn't have a clue about our parents' music.
We couldn't care less.
You know what I mean?
And that sense of cultural dominance that boomers have always had,
younger generations at this time of crisis will look to boomers for that cultural,
continuity. In other words, what is America? How do we get back to what it was? And we often call
this generation the producer of the great champions in history, you know, those leaders that
galvanize all generations to behave for the common good. The generation beneath that,
the Generation X, you know, those who came of age in the 80s and 90s, this would be the
generation that's going to be squarely in midlife, right? They're going to be the generals,
the admirals, they'll be on, they'll be on the scene leaders actually practically determining
how the, how, whether the fourth turning ends well or ends badly. And they will be decisive.
They will be as decisive in determining how it ends as Omar Bradley and George Patton and,
you know, Ridgeway and Dwight Eisenhower were in determining how,
you know, that crisis ended, right? So they will be, they will have the critical role. And it's
interesting because so many Gen Xers coming of age thought that they were, you know, had no purpose.
They were kind of out there at the end of history. They were a useless generation.
Can I tell you, I have felt in the shadow of the hippies my whole life. Like the hippies
just have screwed everything up and were constantly sweeping up after their mess. And,
it now seems like, you know, you're talking about the, the profit generation.
The profit generation has always let go at some point.
These guys, at least in the ruling class, are just hanging on until way beyond their ability
to do anything.
And it's like, when will the hippies let go?
When will they let go?
When will the hippies let go indeed?
And, of course, they're getting older and older, aren't they?
Right.
But they do let go, and that's when the energies are released, right?
And suddenly the Xers, which are a generation of survivalist, pragmatists, don't trust anything, but they know how to build stuff, right?
And they know how to get stuff done.
And interestingly enough, from their individualism, which they fostered in their, you know, a home alone childhood, they become leaders of a new community.
and that becomes very interesting transition for them, right?
Because they become those who kind of lead America into a new era of close community,
of national community.
And then, of course, the millennial generation, the sheltered special kids, right,
as the GI generation was early in life.
I mean, the GI generation was the first Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts,
and they were, you know, sheltered by the progressive movement.
and as kids, and they came of age to fight World War II,
millennials will have the same transition,
and they will transition into a generation
that will be collectively the hero generation,
and of course that will be their right as passage,
that will be their transformation.
It will turn a generation of, you know, Oppenheimer's, right,
who were talking earlier about that movie,
but a generation which was filled with radicals
and didn't know which direction,
go back in the 1930s to a generation, the majority of whom became the cornerstone of the American
high, obviously in the late 40s and 50s. And they were the founders of everything from
suburbia to the, you know, kind of the black and white Ed Sullivan culture. Right.
everyone or sort of the stolid establishment that that boomers later rebelled from.
And that actually takes us into our description late in the book of what the next
to first turning will be like, right?
Very different from what we're experiencing today.
But as if you would look forward from the late 30s, who would have ever imagined the 1950s?
I mean, that would have been science fiction.
Sure.
Right. So are you, so you're optimistic that we, that we make, because it's, it's, I think, you know, people
sometimes say forth turning, it sounds like end of the world and all this. And I say, yes, it's a
extremely challenging time. And it's, and it is a time of struggle and it's a time of trial.
But the only thing worse than a fourth turning is not having a fourth turning. Imagine the friends today
continuing to just deepen.
Yeah.
You know, the sense of rootlessness, the sense of disempowerment by those who are poor and less educated,
the sense of loss of community in America.
Imagine that just extends in depth.
I can't imagine a worse future than that.
Well, isn't that kind of what happened in communist Russia?
I mean, it was just a continuation.
it never got any, it never got any better.
You know, I, it seems to me that the progressive movement is just kind of grabs on to everything and then just holds it as a group.
And it just seems to get worse and worse, at least this, this version of what's happening.
And I'm, I'm concerned that do we have the stuff that hold, that held us together in,
World War II or in the war against slavery.
That's what everyone always wondered.
I mean, you look at the diary of John Adams, you know, back in the early 1770s, and he just
said, I'm filled with anxiety and dread.
We don't have the virtue.
We don't have the brains.
We don't have the economy.
How can we possibly win this struggle, right?
it seemed hopeless to him.
And that sense of despair as we go through this collective rite of passage is the same
that we feel in our personal lives, right?
When we go through a new and very challenging period.
But when we come out, we are transformed and we're usually transformed from the better.
And that's the positive side of it.
William James once wrote a famous, it was actually a speech, he delivered at Sanford University
early in the 20th century.
It was called the Moral Equivalent of War.
And he asked the question, you know, he says, yeah, war is great for, you know, bringing us
together as a state that teaches young people to sacrifice for the community.
And he goes through all of its advantages.
And he said, could we invent anything else?
And by the end of the essay, you kind of wonder whether he actually believes it's
possible. But he asked his audience at one point, does anyone here believe that America, would you have
wished that the Civil War had never happened? It's kind of an interesting question back then,
because of course, a lot of the people's Civil War is still in the audience, right? And he answers
his own question. He said, I'm sure that none of you would have wished the Civil War had never
happened, because we could not imagine the sense of progress, the sense of nationalism, the
industrialism, you know, everything that's brought us together, made us a dynamic nation,
have the Civil War not happened, right? It's kind of an interesting statement he made back then
in 1906. And yet then he asked the question, does anyone want such a thing to happen again?
And I'm sure almost none of all of you would say, no, right? And but isn't that the same way we feel
about our personal life? Yes.
ask, would you wish that some traumatic event? I don't care what it is. Maybe you lost maybe a divorce, you lost his spouse, you lost your business. I don't care what it is. But you ask people, would they wish that it never have happened? And on reflection, they'll probably say no. I became a better person. I became a wiser person. I became a deeper person because of it. And I think it's much the same for us collectively, Glenn.
So that is really hopeful.
And I, you know, I love your book because I am filled with hope and I am filled with hope for the younger generations.
But I can't get past this.
What makes us different than Germany?
As I'm looking at the German, you know, starting at World War I, what they went through and demoralized.
And, I mean, many of the same seeds are happening.
and I don't know, you know, left or right, it doesn't matter.
It's wrong on both sides.
How do we, what gives you the hope or what is different about us than they were?
I mean, they were people too and a republic.
You know, look, I believe in our national culture, and I look at our track record,
which historically has been very successful.
Well, and I would say this.
When you talk about Germany and Japan or even Korea coming out of the last fourth turning,
America played a huge role in setting them on a better course.
And I think it's interesting, Glenn, that you look back over the last 10 years, you know, in Iraq and Afghanistan,
everyone's saying, you can't build nations.
There's no such thing as nation building.
Well, as I recall in the last fourth turning, America did a pretty darn good job.
I mean, look at those nations and what they became.
I mean, they were certainly different.
And it was largely due to our occupation and our guidance.
I mean, I hate to say it, but the post-war era would have been very different for all of us,
all of our generations had we not produced a better world in the wake of, you know, the A-bomb, right?
and I think we did do the right thing
and I think we did produce a better world.
I am glad to talk to you
and I would love to have you in for a podcast
because there's so much more to cover.
There is a lot of time.
We could even talk more about Kondyratia
because he's an old hero of mine.
Oh, really?
Oh, good.
Well, let's, if we can,
let's schedule something sooner rather than later
because I think your voice is so important.
It is, again, as I said at the beginning,
he's played a huge role in my understanding
and my hanging on to hope, quite honestly.
So thank you for that.
Thanks, Glenn.
You bet.
You bet.
Neil Howe, he is the author of The Fourth Turning is here.
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Fourth Turning is the one that's probably the most famous,
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You know, Jason came on because he's more than sports,
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and we wanted to make sure that we had a kind of some sports.
You know, a lot of people say, Glenn, you're enough.
Yeah, yeah, your deep sports authority.
Knowledge of sports.
Yeah.
But then we brought on this Brett Favory, Favari, whatever.
And Warren Sack, going to be joining Blaze TV's Jason Whitlocks, Fearless, every week.
Brett Fav.
Oh, is that how you say it?
Yeah, it's a little bit of different pronunciation to, you know, Hall of Fame-level players coming on to break down the NFL.
It's great.
Yeah, that's weird.
I'm in the Hall of Fame, too.
I didn't remember them being in.
You're the Radio Hall of Fame, and even that's highly questionable.
Yeah.
It does not seem like it should have occurred.
Yeah.
They'll pretty much let anybody in.
It's not the same with Mr. Favor.
Right.
Mr. Favre, he was able to accomplish quite a bit to get in.
Yeah.
I've never heard of Mr. Brett Favor before.
Never heard that.
It would be great to listen to their breakdowns, though.
I know you don't know what they're talking about, but it will be fascinating to.
No, I mean, I know.
Obviously, I know these two.
And Jason Whitlock, it is going to be some great coverage.
If you're a sports fan.
Me?
Not so much.
No.
But I can recognize.
that'll be good.
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Donald Trump made a haul on Friday and Saturday.
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And total over the weekend, $7.1 million in sales just at his website of his mugshot.
and African Americans had a lot to say about it.
Listen to this.
Cut one.
What's your honest reaction to Trump's mugshot?
I think it's really a good thing for the black community.
And every time a mugshot come out of those said rappers,
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So I don't know if you saw all of the rappers and everybody else saying this is the Bill Clinton thing.
Remember Bill Clinton became the first black American president because he was caught, you know, having sex in the Oval and then lying about it.
And the man came after him.
And that's why they called him the first black president.
I mean, I remember hearing that phrase, but I did not know.
I just thought, you know, because he played the saxophone or something.
No, no.
It was because of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, African Americans identified with him being persecuted.
Okay.
Okay.
That's why they called him that.
When actually the first black president was Barack Obama.
But really?
Yes.
Yes.
Not Bill Clinton.
Wow.
So it looks like the same thing is happening with the African-American.
community, except there is something more important than just him being persecuted.
It's the actual stats.
U.S. Census Bureau estimated under the Kennedy administration, more than 45% of non-whites
were living under the poverty line.
45% of those of a different color than white.
lowest ever recorded percentage of black families living under the threat of hunger, crime and disease,
went from 45% in the Kennedy era all the way down to 16.13% under the Trump administration.
He didn't do a war on poverty.
He just said, hey, everybody, go out, get a job, and I'm going to cut some regulations.
for you so it'll be good for business. Hey, believe in yourself. And poverty went down in the black
community to 16.3%. Now it is at 19.5. Now you'd say, well, that started during COVID. Yes, it did.
The African American poverty rate was at 19.5 because of COVID. Now the president has,
you know, worked his magic. And it is.
19.5.
So zero improvement for the African-American community, which I don't know.
I think that matters.
This is one of the most effective policies of the left.
Usually it makes things worse.
If it kept it even, that's incredible.
No, it didn't get much, much worse?
No, it did not.
Wow.
Yeah, it did not.
So, well, you're right then.
You know, I should look at the silver lining.
I'm a Sunnyside guy.
Because there's really nothing.
Let's go through it.
Defense, worse.
Oh, you know.
World standing, demonstrably worse.
Economy, worse.
The inflation rate.
What if you compare it to the worst of April 2020?
Let's release some ads about Bidonomics that compare today to April 2020 and see what happens.
Don't get me started with Bidonics.
Have you seen the White House by a...
Only a clip.
Okay.
Only a clip of it.
This is the president.
I just want you to listen to that because I really thought this was a bit.
And I was looking at the president thinking, wow, CGI has gotten so good.
Yeah.
Okay.
And the reason why, not what he was saying, but how he was saying it.
You know, he's at some point he's like, and I'm very energetic about doing all these great stuff.
Yeah, because this is a whiteboard.
video and to understand it
visually, because it's important to understand what it
looks like if you were listening on the radio.
It is a, it's Biden standing
in front of a whiteboard, a traditional
whiteboard that you'd have in a business meeting.
Except he's not using the whiteboard
at all. It's seemingly
just set up like it's a screen
and then they're putting graphics
on the whiteboard
in post production. Oh, Stu.
It gets better. It gets better
than that. But my point, before
we get to the, it getting better.
No, no.
To back up what you're saying here, is that this is a produced video.
Like, he could have cut all of these lines 30 times, right?
And then they could have made it incredibly interesting.
This is the best they got.
This is the best they could get out of this guy.
This is not like an off-the-cuff press conference where he's tired coming off a plane.
No.
This is him in full performance mode.
Yes.
This is him in re-election.
I'm ready for the next four years.
This is supposed to convince you to be excited.
vote and donate to his campaign.
Right.
Here it is.
I want to share with you
my economic vision
to grow our economy.
Stop, stop.
I want to share with you
through my what?
My comic vision
to grow our economy.
Okay.
And the great part,
as that's happening,
there's this really awkward
slow zoom in on a empty whiteboard
and you just see his left hand
in the shot still.
I was like,
what is going?
They have every person
in all.
Hollywood, none of them can work right now.
They're all free available.
Everyone's on strike.
There's no production going on.
They couldn't get anyone here to make this halfway decent.
I think they're saying, why spend the money?
He's gotten here with just being in the basement.
Right.
How much will they tolerate?
Go ahead.
To grow our economy from the middle out and the bottom up, not top down.
He's not even in the shot.
Nope.
Thickodon that economy is the belief that we should cut out of the law.
and big corporations.
I expect it to trickle down to everyone else.
And we should shrink public investment
in roads, bridges, and waters.
He looks like a corpse.
And he legitimately looks like
he is in a haunted house right now.
This is the guy that he looks like
Jeff Dunham's angry old man puppet.
He really does.
He looks like you'd come into like
a haunted mansion.
And he'd be like just standing there
in the corner and you wouldn't notice him and you'd turn around
and he'd be there and like, you know, he's holding
like a platter with like a head on it.
That's what it looks like that.
It's really creepy.
Except he's not scary because you don't think he could chase you.
No.
You know what I mean?
You'd have to actually lift the axe up, put it on your neck, and then hope that he
fell over on the axe.
Right.
And it probably still wouldn't kill you, but you'd have a bad scratch on your neck.
You would be able to escape with a leisurely stroll.
That I will say.
Yes.
Yes, or a toddler's crawl.
Here we go, go ahead.
Blew up the deficit, increased in equity, and weakened the infrastructure of America.
And it made it harder for folks to get to the middle class.
That's until now.
This is just in, stop for a second.
Just a fact check this.
Yeah.
The middle class is disappearing.
People say this all the time.
This is actually true, right?
Like this is a provable fact.
But where are they going?
they are going through this period he's complaining about,
not his presidency, unfortunately,
but the period he's complaining about,
the rise of Reaganomics, trickle-down economics,
they are leaving the middle class,
and they are going to the upper-middle class.
That is, you can see it over and over and over again.
When you break it into the five quintiles,
they're coming out of the middle quintile
and going to the upper-middle quintile.
This has happened, it's provable.
It's not happening now.
It's reversing itself when they're implementing their plans.
Because they're going to fix it.
But like people leaving the middle class is good if they're going up.
Yes.
Right.
Like that's what you want.
Yes.
And leaving the lower class.
And going into the middle.
Right.
The people who are being replaced are going to be.
The 45% that, you know, were below the poverty line.
And under Trump, it was 16%.
They didn't go into a invisible group.
They went into a either lower middle class.
or middle class group.
Yeah.
Improving their lot in life.
Yeah.
But if you compare it to April 2020, no one had a job!
It's crazy how bad these are.
I mean, it's just, I just, I really don't understand it.
By the way, there's a huge mural now in Atlanta of Trump's mugshot.
I mean, I think this is going to be, I don't know how to take.
It's interesting.
I mean, one of the first polls came out since the,
the debate happened and Trump is down six points, DeSantis is up eight points, and Haley is up six points.
We're going to talk to Donald Trump tomorrow, by the way, about this he's on the air with us tomorrow.
So we can ask him about all this.
But there is, I think, a weird thing going on on the right right now, trying to figure out how to deal with this, because it's like you have to, you want to be defensive of a guy who's being persecuted.
Yeah.
That's a natural response to that.
And at the same time, people are looking at this and saying, like, well, how does this all play out?
We know that they're coming after him.
And I don't want to, you know, I'm worried about going down this road.
And then what if he does lose?
What if they do throw him in prison?
What happens to our country?
We get this guy again for four more years?
It's a tough thing to work through for a lot of people.
And, you know, the problem is we almost need, we almost need like two presidents for this next job.
And, you know, I know we can't have one.
But he is, he is so focused.
on what he's going through because, and rightfully so, he has to be, but also for the rest of America,
what's happening to him is just a foretelling of what's going to happen to us if they're allowed to get
away with it. You know, look at what Elon Musk, what's happening. DoJ is going after Elon Musk now
because, you know, he refuses to put minorities in space. But I think a lot of New Yorkers would say,
if that's where they can keep them, that's okay. Right, New York, you love them.
Happy Hockel.
Yeah.
Anyway, you know, he is fighting this massive corruption.
How the president is going to be able to fight for himself and fight against the DOJ and all of the corruption that is in the deep state, that's a hard job.
It's going to be really, really difficult.
And it's going to be fascinating to watch it play out.
I know we say that often, but it's true.
Like, I, this could go a thousand different directions.
Oh, yeah.
I have no idea really, honestly, at the end of the day, how this is going to look at a year.
No, a Hobbit wearing the one ring to rule them all could be the next president.
Could be.
There you go.
Could be.
I can step up.
Hey, I got this rig.
I'm wearing it.
It's my precious.
Vote for me.
And everybody suddenly would just go, you know what?
Could happen.
I like my precious.
Sure.
Sure.
At any point.
At any point, it could happen.
I'm I I really is fascinating
and to see like we don't know
you know it's trying to think about we're we're talking about this on the
election
uh
uh post show after excuse me
the debate post show the other night on blaze tv
and we're I was like give me your percentage right now
if you've ever looking at the field you go uh
Trump desantis and the rest of the field
give me percentage odds of all of them and you start working through that
and you're like obviously Trump's the heavy favorite he's way ahead and you know
still in every poll even even early states.
DeSantis, I thought it acquitted himself pretty well, equipped himself pretty well in that debate.
And he was, you know, seemingly he's done pretty well in the polls afterward.
And he saw like Nikki Haley seemingly people liked her performance.
Some people like Vivek.
It was sort of split on Vivek.
But you go through that.
Boy, is he under attack now?
He really is.
But you can come up with like a percentage of how you break that out.
And then you have to stop and think, well, what if they put Donald Trump in prison?
Does that make him more likely to get the nomination?
Does it make him less likely to get the nomination?
Do you have to change completely your percentages and how this breaks out?
You almost have to game plan this different ways.
It's like a flowchart.
You're going down these roads and you don't know which way to go.
No, I think you just vote for the person you believe in.
Oh, I never think that should influence your vote vote.
When you're game planning, it's just like, oh my.
I'm saying as an analyst to game planning to figure out what percentage chance given candidate has,
How can you answer the chance of Ron DeSantis
We don't know the answer of whether Donald Trump is going to be in prison or not
And when you don't know how the American people will react to that
That could make him a bigger
Who knows?
I mean, no idea.
Yeah, and literally anything can happen.
Anything can happen.
I believe Carrot Top will be our next president.
I don't know how.
I just assume it's going to occur somehow.
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so I don't know if you saw
what the Canadian foreign minister
I know you were a big fan of the Canadian
foreign minister oh yeah
McRupy
yeah Melanie
Jolly. Oh, Melanie, yes.
And I knew the name. You didn't need to say the name to me.
I'm saying some other people may have needed to hear the name.
So foreign affairs minister
Melanie Jolly
said in an interview
that Canada
is working on, quote,
a game plan
for the outcome of America's
upcoming presidential
election. Canada is
coming up with a game plan.
Apparently,
this is a quote.
Foreign Affairs,
this is a quote from the
National Post. Foreign Affairs
Minister Melanie Jolly says Canada
has been considering a game plan for
how it will respond if the
United States takes a far right
authoritarian shift after next
year's presidential election.
Now, I'm trying to,
I'm trying to figure out, is that just
Donald Trump or is that
also that very fascistic
governor of Florida?
And I've actually heard the extremist, worse than Donald Trump, the vague.
Oh, I mean.
Everyone's always worse.
When they become a threat, they become worse.
Canada will be okay if we elect Asa Hutchinson.
Really?
Yeah, they're going to be okay.
I doubt it.
They're going to be okay.
Honestly, if ASA somehow gets the nomination, which is not going to occur.
But if he did, they would say he's more dangerous than Donald Trump, too.
She reportedly added, I will work with my colleagues and with the mayors, the provincial
premieres and with the business community and with the unions and everyone in the country.
So we are regardless of the election outcome.
Yeah.
Here's your plan, Canada.
This is how it works.
You say, congratulations to fill in name as they've won the next presidential United States.
We are encouraged and we're excited to work with him or her in the future.
That's kind of the end of it.
That's your plan.
I don't know.
I mean, it's kind of like our plan.
I mean, I don't think we have, you know, nobody's ever
drawn up war plans against Canada
because we don't need to.
We just go and take over.
That's how it happened.
There's our big strategy session.
I don't know. Trudeau's tough.
I mean, at any point, he could get into blackface and who knows what happens up with us.
I'm going to give you such a slap.
I'm going to do it, America.
Okay.
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five red heifers that were just brought to the Jewish state last September and the supposed
funneling of government funds to construct the third temple.
Now, for those of you who know how the story ends, this could be a very exciting time.
It could also be a very terrifying time.
The last month a journalist tweeted about an experiment conducted by Barr Elon University professor Amar, who attempted to determine how many people could be ritually purified by one red heifer.
Apparently, one has enough to purify 660 billion people, which, you know, there's not that many.
So I don't know why they got the other three had red heifers.
but apparently there's the reports now on Israeli TV claiming that there are plans and everything
is in place to rebuild the third temple, which means if I understand it correctly that that
building there on the temple mountain now, it's got a gold dome. I don't remember what it is exactly
would have to be deconstructed in some way or another.
I just not sure.
I think that's a big stumbling block.
Really?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I think it's one that's coming.
I don't know when, but, you know, you could be prepared.
But, you know, it's like I'm going to marry, I'm going to marry Stu's wife someday.
I've already got the tuxedo.
I've got everything ready.
Except you haven't really talked to Lisa about it.
Yeah.
She's still married to Stu and happy.
Married.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's not go crazy for the analogy here.
I know.
I know.
I know what you mean.
Yeah.
I know what you're trying to say there.
I will say that having the extra three-halfers, it's good to be prepared.
It is.
You know?
It's always good to have a little bit extra.
I'd like to see the number of how many purifications it can perform a little bit farther away from 660.
I know just a little bit farther away.
bit farther away. I mean, is that an accurate? Could it be maybe six more? I mean, I prefer six
less. But I'm just, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. So Joe Biden is now talking about everybody
getting the new COVID-19 vaccine. And he's requested more funding from Congress.
How is this a story? How is it happening? I don't understand. Like, what?
We have this system in the United States.
This is my understanding of the system.
You tell me where I have it wrong because I definitely have it wrong.
Yeah, yeah, I do.
Like, there are things.
The federal government.
That's how you get it.
That's how you got it wrong.
Okay, good.
There are things that happen in life.
Yes.
They're called illnesses, disease, ailments, all sorts of things.
And companies make things that they believe will help alleviate the symptoms,
cure them, make all sorts of medicines for all sorts of things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I understand that.
They release them.
You go and buy them.
You get prescribed these medications.
You decide you make the choice as to what you want to do with them, right?
That's how it's always worked.
Right.
Now, I understand that a pandemic and what we dealt with COVID was a little bit different
than that.
And there was a sort of a rush to, hey, the government needs to pay for this.
because, you know, we all, like, it's an emergency and blah, blah, blah, well, okay, all right,
we were there, we kind of remember that going on.
But, like, it's 2023 now.
Yeah.
Why would Joe Biden have anything to do with them releasing a new vaccine?
Why, if they want to release a new vaccine?
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
You're saying, if I may, paraphrase, Glenn, where is the pharmaceutical arm of the government in the
constitution?
Is that what you're saying?
Is that?
Because like if Pfizer or Moderna or Johnson and Johnson or any company wants to make a COVID vaccine and put it on the market and go for it.
Let people decide whether they want to take it or not.
That's a process I understand.
The process I don't understand is how we now infinitely pay for all of these vaccines.
Like I, why?
Why are we?
Well, let me.
Why? Like, but why? Come to me as a child. And a child always asks, why? Yeah. Yeah. Well, Dr. And I'm going to butcher the name. Dr. J. Badachara.
Batacharya. We've had him on the show, haven't we?
I think we have. You probably butchered his name when he was on the show, too.
Sure, I did. He's a professor of medicine at Stanford, one of the co-authors of the Great Barrington Declaration.
He said the president's comments that all Americans will likely be advised to get a new COVID vaccine as new variants spread is, quote, irresponsible.
He said, the president said, I signed off this morning on a proposal.
have to present to Congress a request for additional funding. Again, why? Why? Why? We don't need any more
funding. Tenatively, not decided finally yet. Tendatively, it is recommended and it would likely be
recommended that everybody get it no matter whether they got it before. The good doctor said,
you know, it's never occurred to me that an American president would be the number one spokesperson
for a pharmaceutical company, but here we are. It's irresponsible to make this kind of public
health advice for the entire American
public in the absence of
excellent randomized
trial evidence. We don't even have
done with this vaccine yet?
Let alone have it tested.
I don't even think they're done with it yet.
I think they just are getting to the point where
they're, you know, like,
putting it into these tests.
Again, that's the problem
that I pointed out on Friday's program
when I played the
commercial for
Ozempic.
The very long, serious
of disclaimers associated.
Yeah, which it was 50 seconds of disclaimer.
Of the one minute commercial.
Yeah.
5.0. 50 seconds.
Oh, oh, Ozambic could cause death.
Right.
I mean, that's really pretty much what it is.
Despite the fact that these studies, what they're talking about are incredibly rare
side effects that affect almost no one who actually takes the medication, but they still
have to jam it into every commercial they do for the product.
Correct.
Because.
Because the Fed.
rule government requires it.
This one doesn't even need a study.
They don't even, yeah.
We're like, we're fine.
You're going to be fine.
Shut up.
Stop your belly aching.
Or I'll get you something to belly ache about.
That's what the government has become.
It's such a weird.
Like, it doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't make any sense.
And, you know,
like, luckily I think we're in a,
at a place at this point where we can do
with the government's advice,
what we do with all of their other advice
when it comes to what we put in our body.
Ignore it completely.
Like when's the last time you looked at the food pyramid?
I think they even changed it a few years ago under Obama.
Didn't they?
There's something else.
I don't know.
I don't care.
They can recommend whatever they want.
That is not, you know, at least it's not them saying they're going to mandate it or anything like that.
But even the recommendation is sort of silly at this point.
Right.
Like, I don't know if you happen to be in a certain circumstance and you're like, you're like, you know what?
This seems like it's the right thing for me.
Then you do it.
You do it.
You do it.
You do it.
You do it.
Yeah.
Cut down in the private.
of his life.
Bob Barker, we lost him
from the Price is Right.
You could have broken that to us
a little bit easier.
Hey, Bob Barker's up on the roof.
What?
I don't know.
Why is he on a roof?
Why would he be?
Why are we?
You don't know that joke.
Barb Barker passed away.
99 years old.
Yes.
Complete shock.
So sometime, you know,
shortly after he heard.
Bob Barker, come on down.
What is happening?
Did we just insert a segment from a different show?
What is going on?
Also.
Also, we lost Joe the plumber this weekend.
That was really sad.
Really sad.
Now, Bob lived a very full life.
He was 99 years old.
But Joe, I mean, what a terrible thing.
He was, what, only 49 years old?
Yeah, 49.
This audience, by the way, made a huge difference in the last days of his life.
I got infected, do I have that email?
I got a couple of emails after it, after it happened.
And they wanted me to honor you and tell you, I don't have it, but tell you that when he was on the show a month ago.
Wasn't that long ago.
Yeah.
He was on the program.
We talked to him and, you know, he said he was worried.
about his family stability and he's 49 years old.
And so we asked you to give and you gave a lot.
And his family reached out and wanted you to know
how much of a difference that you made in his last few weeks of life.
Man, I understand what he was able to move back closer to his extended family with?
Yeah.
And the, yeah, and the, it just, he had a good few weeks.
Man, geez.
I mean, his story is such an American story, right?
Like, you think about other countries with kings and queens.
There's not like a story where one guy has a conversation with the king as they're walking down the street and changes the dynamic, you know, and changes the conversation in the entire country.
He was able to do that.
And then once again, on the.
at the end of his life, like, there's very few countries where I think that would happen,
where a person who's very sick, you know, has so many people who don't know him,
reach out and change the last few days of his life.
I mean, you know, it's this really sad story, but has a lot of, there's something to take from it as well.
By the way, those stories do happen.
They usually end in beheadings, but.
Okay.
I mean, a lot of people that they don't know reach out and behead them.
And it usually comes after walking down the street with the king saying, you know what?
Hey, you know what your problem is.
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So there's a new trial date for Donald Trump.
And it's what is it?
federal January 6 charges, election interference.
Okay, all right.
The federal one, not the Georgia one.
Okay, so this is the federal, because the Georgia one is coming, I think, when the RNC is actually having the convention.
Yeah.
But this one for January 6th happens.
No big deal.
It's the day, now it is a very tightly contested primary, actually caucus in North Dakota against Doug Bergam.
So who knows what's going to happen there.
Right.
Also, it's the day before Super Tuesday.
I mean, how transparent can they be on this?
It's the day before you want to talk about with a straight face.
We don't want to do anything that could influence an election.
The day before.
Okay.
This is a crime.
I mean, it's criminal.
It's so bad.
Unbelievable.
So, yeah, I mean, so Super Tuesday, you have Alabama, Alaska, American Samoa, Arkansas, California, California, Colorado, Maine, Massachusetts.
Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, all on the same day.
And they're putting him to trial the day before, also the day that North Dakota's caucus is.
I mean, I have to tell you.
I mean, honestly, Stu, honestly.
Honestly.
They act as if they just know they could beat him.
I don't know we could beat anybody else, but we could certainly beat him.
Right.
And they want him.
you're going to vote the very next day.
What's going to be on your mind?
This government is out of control.
Every Republican primary voter is going to be thinking that way, I think.
Right.
And then they want to put them in jail.
You and I talked about it last week.
There's no way they're going to let up on this guy.
No way.
It certainly doesn't seem like it.
No.
And so how do they fail here?
Do they go 0 for 91?
I don't know.
Every time they say, well, this is going to be the one that gets him.
You know, and so far, uh, no, it's not the one.
They're just digging a hole deeper and deeper for themselves, I think, but I don't, I don't know.
And by the way, where the hell are the Republicans?
I keep hearing that, you know, we're going to look into, you're going to, look at what's happening.
Look at what's happening.
You're telling me there's nothing you can do.
you don't hold any purse strings.
This is out of control.
It is out of control.
And I don't know what, like, you don't, it's difficult to figure out what goes on here because
if we, if what we believe what we say we believe, you've done a million shows on the deep state
and how serious they do these things and they'll go to any lengths to, to trample this entire process.
If you really do believe that, how do you believe that they go O for 91 and this guy's walking around
doing debates against Joe Biden.
How does that happen? They're going to put him in prison.
If they are who we've said they are, this is what's going to occur at the end of this.
And then what do you do?
They want him to be the candidate and then put him in jail.
I'm convinced of it.
And then what?
Right.
Do the Republicans, honestly, would the Republicans try to figure out a way out of it and say,
well, you know what, he's in prison?
We can run and run somebody else?
I wouldn't be surprised at that.
outcome? I wouldn't be. That would be a horrible outcome. Oh, I don't see any good outcomes coming
out of this. Right? I don't know what what the outcome could be that would be positive for this system.
You know, this is, we've had Jesse Kelly on the program before. Let me give you this tweet from him.
Tell me if you agree with it. He says, they're never going to let him be president again.
I'm sorry. It's wrong. It's awful. It's unjust. But it's true. If you don't see that,
you don't understand what you're dealing with. I mean, I don't. He's right. I, I, I, I, I,
I think he might be right, and then what?
What does that mean?
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