The Glenn Beck Program - The Biden Lies Revealed in Tucker's Interview with Devon Archer | Guests: Rep. Jim Jordan & Jonathan Isaac | 8/3/23

Episode Date: August 3, 2023

Hunter Biden’s former business partner Devon Archer sat down with Tucker Carlson, and Glenn and Stu discuss some of the more bombshell revelations. Rep. Jim Jordan joins to discuss the investigation launched into the "sweetheart deal" Hunter Biden almost got before a judge intervened and Joe Biden’s involvement with Hunter’s business dealings. Chadwick Moore, the author of the upcoming Tucker Carlson independent biography “Tucker,” joins to give an unprecedented look into Tucker Carlson’s life, including his life before his fame and his upbringing. Orlando Magic player Jonathan Isaac joins to discuss his new clothing brand, UNITUS, and how he created the brand to promote conservative values. Glenn goes over the current manipulation of food, farming, and the creation of synthetic meat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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some of the things. I thought it was, did you see it all, Stu? Yeah, I watched, I think there's going to be more, right? He had released one clip. I think there's going to be an extended interview that comes after this. But I watched the entire. clip that was released. Yeah. And so I do feel bad for Tucker because he did this thing calling a show Tucker on Twitter. And then they changed the name of Twitter. So now is he Tucker on X now?

I don't even understand what's happening. I don't know. And I don't know how you're tweeting what you say when you tweet. I don't know. It's very uncomfortable. But anyway, as I'm watching this with Devin Archer, I, it was interesting because Tucker was speaking archer's language. And so I felt like there was a lot of winking and nodding. Oh, yeah. Did you feel that way? A hundred percent. In fact, it was, you know, I was looking at clips to pull from it to, you know, to give, you know, we can play for the audience. But it was like, there's so many of them that they don't get to the final thing they're saying because they both kind of wink, nod and laugh at each other because they know what they're saying, but they don't actually say it. So it was hard to find the right clips to play.

Right. And they did that because they're both Washington creatures. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Tucker is a guy who grew up in Washington. His family was in the media. He knows it real well. And so does Devin Archer. And so let's just play some of these clips here. This is a Hunter was an expert in knowing the guy. The initial idea around the business, they were going to provide, you know, the government insight and an additional. network to raise capital and then, you know, deal with regulatory issues that you might have at the corporate level. Right. Regulatory issues? Exactly. Okay. So that would be more his area. That would be his face. Right. But did he have a sophisticated understanding of regulation, do you think? I think that he led a team that had a sophisticated.

Okay. Because I lived in Washington a long time around a lot of regulation. Also a very complex area. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think. I think there's, you know, you got to be an expert in knowing the guy, and he was the guy that was the expert in knowing the guy. He was an expert in knowing the guy. And who was the guy he knew? Well, he knew a lot of people, but obviously there was some familiar, you know, some, his brother, his father, some of his father's siblings. So he knew a lot of people. And obviously, I know you're pointing to, you know, the father being the key relationship. Well, no, I'm just trying to get a sense of Washington's not a money town. Right. You know, people don't, aren't in business in Washington. for the most part, and most people don't have business skills that I noticed in 30 years of living there.

So really, the business of Washington is selling access. That's what it looked like to me. Yes. Not just under Biden, but like, yeah, no, I think that's one of the, like, core misconceptions. I mean, it seems like when I, you know, understanding a regulatory environment means selling access at the end of the day. That's how I interpret it. And I think that's how most people in, you know, in Wall Street, whether they admit or not interpret it. Yeah. So we're going to, we've got a complex business that, intersects with government, we need a guy who knows a guy. Right. How do I deal with getting a guy a visa that needs to come over for a business deal? Right. Call our lobbyists that knows the guy in DHS or used to work in DHS or in Customs Border Patrol or the people at the embassy and state, they might be able to help. So they're very like tactical elements that are regulatory and compliance and governance that you have to go through.

And you've got to know the guy that worked at the old agency that now has the lobbying firm that can go back to the agency and, you know, get things put to the front of the line. Well, that's exactly what I want is a guy who knows a guy, but most of the guys he knows, you know, can line you up with hookers and crack. But I think we all understand what is being said here. Now, one of the key things that the phone calls that nobody, I don't hear anybody talking about, he is talking about, he's about to talk about some of the phone calls and how that, how Joe Biden knew that, businessmen were present during the hunter phone calls okay let's just I want you to remember one thing and I don't hear anybody talking about it these calls the issue here is the time of day for example the call with Burisma took place

while Hunter was in Qatar and it was in the afternoon well that's the middle of the night here so Dad calls at one o'clock in the morning. He just, hey, son, I'm thinking about, he's not up at one o'clock in the morning. He's not there. So he's calling over to China in the middle of the night and just, ah, I just happened to be up. Really? And if it happens during the middle of the workday, does dad just take the phone call?

Is he so not busy that he can just take the phone call at any time and he's making phone calls in the middle of the night? You're having dinner over in Europe and it's 8 o'clock at night. In Washington, D.C., that's 2 or 3 o'clock at a morning. Can somebody ask that question? All right, so here's a cut to. Biden knew that businessmen were present during the 100. Hunter call. Biden, then the sitting vice president, knew that there were Hunter's business associates

in the room. Yeah, I think I can definitively say at particular dinners or meetings, he knew there were business associates. And he, you know, we, dinners. Or if I was there, I was a business associate too. So I think, or if, you know, any of the other colleagues from the D.C. office or the New York office were there. So, yeah, at times there were from the, you know, to be, you know, completely clear on the calls. I don't know if it was an orchestrated call in or not. It certainly was powerful, though, because, you know, if you're sitting with a foreign business person

and you hear the vice president's voice, that's prize enough. I mean, that's, that's pretty impactful stuff. Yeah, it is impactful stuff there, isn't it? And you notice, remember, he said at these dinners, remember the ones that are in question, are at least in Europe. Now, Hunter Biden calling dad. Is that an abuse of power at all?

Cut three. You've got a lot of kids. You're close to them. Do you call them on speaker during business meetings? Do I call? I mean, what is that? A grown man calling his dad on a speaker phone during a business meeting. Right.

To be clear, sometimes the call was coming in and the speaker would go on. So it's just the presence. You have to be, I mean, you understand D.C., right? So the power to have that access in that conversation, and it's not in a scheduled conference call and that's a part of your family, that's like the pinnacle of power in D.C. 100%. I guess I'm pivoting against the lie that I'm hearing people tell with a straight face, Congressman Goldman, for example, that we don't really know what was going. Really? You're taking a call from the vice president and you put it on speaker.

It's not just, hey, dad, I'm in a meeting with some buddies. Right. It's let me put my dad, the vice president of speaker. Yeah. Yep. In the rear view, it's a it's an abuse of soft power, I'd say. Hmm. In the rear view. In the rear view. Okay. All right. One last thing. At the end of the clip that was released on Twitter yesterday or X, Tucker showed Devon a letter from Joe Biden from, from. 2011 and it's a pretty impressive letter for a guy who is a lacrosse player that's what he did he was a lacrosse player and then he went into business and right as they're going into business joe biden writes him this letter now listen to this clip we found this letter kind of amazing it's from january 20th 2011 which i think puts you in your late 30s mid mid mid right right okay so you you're a younger man. This is from the Vice President of the United States,

Joe Biden, to you personally, and it's personalized here at the bottom. Devin Archer, Rosemont-Seneca Partners, that was your partnership with Hunter Biden in Georgetown. Dear Devin, I apologize for not getting a chance to talk to you at the luncheon yesterday. I was having trouble getting away from hosting President Hu.

Who? He was running China at that point. I hope I get a chance to see you again soon with Hunter. I hope you enjoyed lunch. Thanks for coming. Sincerely, Joseph R. Biden Jr., P.S., handwritten, happy you guys are together. So there are many levels here.

But here's the vice president of the United States saying to you, a man in his mid-30s, who's not a government official, I'm sorry I was occupied with the guy who runs the world's largest country. I would much rather talk to you and thank you. What was he thanking you for? Well, first of all, it's a lovely letter, and it was...

It's quite enthusiastic. It's a little weird, though, right? Yeah, well, it was, listen, it was kind of the beginning of our partnership, and he was thanking me and thanking Hunter, I think, at the end of the day, for bringing this idea of this government regulatory, strategic advisory business into the private equity world. And I think he was excited about the prospects for Hunter. And, you know, he was just thanking me. I think it was a nice gesture. Yeah. Yeah. Nice gesture. Stu, I mean, yeah, very nice gesture. I mean, I know if I am meeting with the, you know, the leader of the second most powerful and arguably now the most powerful country in the world.

And my son is like, hey, dad, dad, dad, dad, my friend is here. My friend is here. You're going to meet with him. I look at my son going, I'm meeting with the leader of China. right now. But the first thing I do is say, hey, secretary, come on in here just for a second. I just dictate a letter here. Hey, Rafe's friend,

sorry I couldn't get away. I mean, I would do it with a lot of sarcasm. I think they might think it was nice, but it would be completely sarcastic. Sorry, I couldn't break myself away to meet with you yesterday. But I was busy with the Chinese leader.

But hope to see you really soon. By the way, thank you sincerely for all you're doing. Yeah, and if what they're doing is putting together this partnership where they are creating the illusion of using me, I thought he didn't know about Hunter's business at all. Yeah. I didn't think he had met with anybody, talked to anybody, knew anything. We're so far, I suppose, past this. but again, this has never really been changed by Biden himself.

We now see Corinne Jean-Pierre saying he's never been in business with Hunter. That's their new spin on the old claim that he didn't ever speak to Hunter about his business. It was interesting to watch this happen. And I think it's important to remember who Devin Archer is. This is a guy who was roommates with John Kerry's stepson. He was, I think the, I think the. campaign finance co-chair of the John Kerry campaign. This is not a conservative you're hearing from here.

And watching him try to answer these things, it seems like he's being somewhat careful with what he's saying. He's still in legal trouble. And he is facing a lot of the same things that Joe and Hunter should be facing as far as charges go. So he's trying to navigate those waters. You can tell he's kind of saying this stuff with that wink and a nod because he knows he's at risk. can't say everything he wants to say. But even with that, I think you get a lot out of this.

And this is just the first clip of this interview. This is a big deal. Yeah, and you also get from the arrogance. I mean, I think Tucker played this expertly. He approached him as a peer. Look, you and I are both, we grew up in Washington, and we know what's going on here. Am I right?

Yeah. Yeah, I guess, you know, retrospect. I guess it wasn't really a good idea. Yeah. They were, they were, they were approach, he approached this interview with a, I know what's going on. Come on. You know what's going on. I know what's going on.

And surprisingly, uh, Devin Archer went right down that path with him. Yeah. And, uh, that shows the arrogance and shows the elitism of Devin Archer. Yeah, and it may have come to a point here where Archer has realized whatever protection he might get from these relationships is now gone. And he has nothing to lose, right? I mean, he's being, he's being, they're coming after him for other supposed offenses, which I have not, you know, I have not looked all that closely into whether he's guilty of the other stuff. But all this stuff is on the record. These are emails sent at the time.

We don't need to trust Devin Archer to believe these things. and that's the newest thing that the left is trying to do, which is smear his character and say you shouldn't believe any of the stuff, he says, while at the same time admitting it's true, right? Like, their answer was not, oh, he didn't have 20 calls with Joe, with Hunter Biden's business associates. It was, oh, they just talked about the weather.

Oh, it was no big deal. Oh, it's been known forever. You know, these are separate sort of responses to this and defenses that don't, shy away from the central truth here that all this stuff actually happened. You know, let me take a quick 60 second break. And then I want to talk to you about John Kerry's son. And why nobody's talking about that? First, let me tell you about relief factor sleep.

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I'm going to have to go back into our archives and look, but I can't remember why I feel this way. But it's interesting to me that John Kerry's son, all of a sudden, he was an equal partner, all of a sudden distanced himself from all of this. He was like, uh, you know, I got to make a phone call. And he never returns.

I'm going out the store for some milk and never comes back. And if I remember right, maybe you can clear this up. It was kind of that feeling when he left that I don't want to be involved in any of this. Do you remember it that way? When you say he doesn't want to be involved in all this, you're saying in business with Hunter? Yes. Yeah. I mean, obviously, there was so much controversy toward the end of that.

And there was, I mean, I think a lot of people try to stay out of the blast radius when all that stuff starts happening. Yeah. Which I understand. My, it seemed like they were very close for a long time. I don't remember exactly when the breakup was, though. You know, they, they were. I'm going to have to go back to the archives because I know we talked about it, maybe three years ago. Yeah.

And, uh, my recollection was. was like, what? What? Friends with him? I don't know what you're talking about. I was not abused with him. I don't know what. You know, one of those situations where he,

it felt like that there had been meetings where he's like, guys, this is, this is not good. This is way too obvious. You're all going to go to jail and I'm not going to be around it. That is definitely the one thing you learn about a hunter, especially going through this. Obviously, a guy who leaves his laptop at a computer store is not necessarily known for his high level of being discreet.

But like, you know, these messages he's sending are straight out admitting that he's doing this stuff, right? He is saying to Chinese sources, to Devin Archer, that this is what they're doing. They're trading on my name. I know they're trading on my name. This is what I'm in business to do. And of course, that's something that's usually just left on said. We all know this stuff happens. They were admitting it constantly in text.

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diversion agreements where he would have been washed clean of everything everything and so he he wants several questions answered other than the Biden case how many times in the last 10 years is the US Attorney's Office for the District of Delaware included in pretrial diversion agreement a provision similar to paragraph 14 which is we're gonna wash your record clean on everything other than mr. Biden's case how many times last 10 years has any unit of the department included in a pretrial diversion agreement, a provision similar to 14.

What percentage of the total pretrial diversion agreements entered into by the department does that number represent? It's going to be 100%. Other than Biden's case, how many times in the last 10 years is the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Delaware included a pretrial diversion agreement and an agreement not to prosecute crimes that are unrelated to the charge? other than his case, how many times in the last 10 years? As the department included a pretrial agreement, not to prosecute crimes that are unrelated, what percentage of the total pretrial diversion agreements entered represent that number. Again, he's just going through and wanting to know, you know, in the last 10 years,

what are we looking at here? What do we look at? How rare is this? And they're saying the speculation is, like never before. So let's go to, let's go to Jim Jordan. Hello, Jim.

Hey, Glenn. How are you? Very good. You know, I was having dinner with a couple of friends last night, and your name came up, and we are so grateful that you got the job that you did, and you're doing just an amazing,

amazing work. You really are. So thank you for that. Well, you're doing great work. We appreciate that. So keep it up, too. Okay. So let's talk a little bit about what's going on. Let's start with the inquiry end of the sweetheart deal.

Tell me about that. Well, the judge smelled a rat. And, you know, the key part of that transcript, I would encourage all your listeners, read that transcript, because you can, like, you get, you know, how you read this, you get inside the mind, and what the back and forth is like. And it was, and it was, particularly when they,

she asked, has there ever been a deal like this before? Is this, is there any precedent for, this and the government lawyer, the DOJ lawyer says, no, Your Honor, never been a deal like this because what they tried to do was put the, I think, this sort of immunity agreement they had with the handshake and a wink between the defense attorneys and the DOJ attorneys. They put it in the diversion part of the agreement, not in the plea deal itself, which the judge has to sign off on the plea deal. And she asked the right question. She stopped it. And I think that sort of says it all. And then you couple that with what we learned with David Weiss and, you, you know,

the fact that he has said three different things in a five-week time frame, three different letters about what he can and can't do. His story keeps changing the IRS whistleblower story that came forth. Their testimony was consistent and, frankly, validated by an FBI witness we also deposed. So that, to me, I think, just shows how wrong this agreement was. And why the judge says, time out, time out, we're digging 30 days. We're going to get this right if we're going to do it at all. Jim, be more generous than Mother Teresa would be on the answer to this question.

The, I mean, try to really give the benefit of it out here. The press keeps saying, you know, all these accusations, but so far there's been no evidence of any wrongdoing. Boy, I'm having a hard time with that. I mean, it seems to be mountains of evidence. how would you describe the evidence? Well, I would say this. Think about what witnesses have said. So first you have Tony Bobbalinsky two and a half years ago, business partner of Hunter Biden saying that that email that says that the big guy, 10% for the big guy, that in fact is Joe Biden.

We know that email came from the laptop that the FBI has now admitted is real. They knew it was real at the time. It didn't tell us, but they've now admitted that the laptop is real. We know what is real. So you have that. Then you have the WhatsApp message. where from that, which says, Hunter Biden says, I'm sitting by my dad, send the money or else, basically. Then you have the 1023 form, which you have the folks from Burisma saying,

confidential human source, saying he's talked to foreign nationals who talk about this, this payment for policy decision. And then, of course, you have the testimony we got Monday from Devin Archer, where he talks about the meeting in Dubai, December 4th, 2015, the meeting in Dubai between Archer, Hunter Biden, Zolicevsky and Pizarsky. Zolicevsky and Pizarsky are the guys who run Burisma. They say in that meeting with the two guys, Archer and Hunter Biden, they say we need the U.S. government to get involved. We're under all kinds of pressure, pressure from the Ukrainian prosecutor, pressure in Great

Britain where they've seized 23 million of our assets. We've got all kinds of pressure five days later. Literally five days later. Joe Biden is in Ukraine. He gives a speech criticizing the prosecutor in Ukraine, which begins to lay the foundation for what happens a few months. later, which is where the prosecutor is fired in order for Ukraine to get the $1 billion. So those are the things that keep kind of piling up, not to mention the suspicious activity

reports, the number of different companies moving money in and out of and paying all kinds of Biden with that money. They keep saying that Joe Biden, go ahead, go ahead. No, no, the Democrats say this illusion of access, that sure doesn't look like an illusion. it looks like some pretty compelling facts to me. They keep saying that Joe Biden doesn't, hasn't gotten any money, which I haven't seen any proof that he has gotten any money.

However, we do know that Hunter was paying dad's bills. We know that Hunter said in text on the laptop to the rest of his family, dad takes 50% of what we earn. We know that the Shell corporations that have no, they have no experience in, any of the stuff that they were doing as a family. And we know the money was going in suspiciously earmarked by the banks as looks like money laundering.

We know all of this. Yeah. How difficult is it to tie it together legally? Yeah, it, you know, the one of the things that came out after the Devin Archer interview on Monday was the Democrats said, well, you know, there was these multiple times where Hunter Biden puts his dad on the phone, and it's what business partners and clients and people are doing business with. But they never really talked about any. They never talked about business. Well, I didn't expect them to, for goodness sake. I think the key was what Devin Archer testified to. He said

the value Hunter Biden brought to the business arrangement was the Biden brand. And the Biden brand, he was clear about this. The Biden brand is Joe Biden. And so, of course, he's not going to talk about business. He's going to put, hey, guys, say hello to the vice president. Hey guys, my dad wants to say hello to you. That was the value in and of itself right there. And, of course, the White House's story has changed, just like David Wife's story has changed. The White House said, no, president had no involvement, never talked to, never was involved, didn't know anything about it.

And of course, that story has changed now over time as well. Now, is there any chance, again, be Mother Teresa. Is there any chance that the sitting vice president calls in and is introduced to a meeting of the leaders of Burrese, Burisma, and he's in charge of trying to get corruption ended. And he doesn't know that one of the guys that leads Burisma is one of the most violent oligarchs in Ukraine. Any chance that he didn't know that. I don't think so because our State Department knew that. Our State Department initially had concerns about Burisma and Hunter Biden's involvement.

That came out in the impeachment, the crazy impeachment they tried on President Trump four years ago back in, back in, back. in 2019. And oh, by the way, that meeting in Dubai on December 4th, 2015, there was also a phone call. Now, this is interesting how Devin Archer explained this. He said there was a phone call, but he wasn't a part of that phone call. He was on a different part of the hotel, a different part of the deck, he said, and they were on another part of the deck there at the four seasons, and there was a phone call to D.C. We don't know who it was to. Devin Archer said, I don't know who it was to, but it was to D.C. So was it to Joe Biden? We don't know. Mr. Archer wouldn't testify to that. He said he didn't know.

But it was to D.C. And, of course, we'll have to try to figure that one out. So dad just calls in once in a while, or he, or, you know, the son calls dad during dinner meetings over in Ukraine or in Europe. If he's having dinner over in Europe, dinner meetings, it's probably 8, 9 o'clock over in Europe. Is, is dad just awake calling his son at 3 o'clock in the morning? I mean, the time difference is never talked about here. Yeah, no, that's an interesting take. And, yeah, I would say, like, what Dubai would probably be, like, a nine-hour difference, I'm guessing.

Yeah. It's called D.C. So late at night, I guess it could, yeah, it's probably early, certainly early in the morning. I don't know. Oh, yeah. That's something that probably in the course of our investigation, we'll have to dig into a little bit more as well. But, yeah, you're exactly right. that makes this. Now, but there was also, understand, there was also meetings in D.C.

with dinner meetings with Hunter Biden and his business partners, the Cafe Milano in Georgetown, does Mr. Archer testify to this as well? There are meetings in D.C., I think, 2014, 2015, and one of those dinners, and Joe Biden was there for the whole dinner. It wasn't just a drop-by, you know, it wasn't just like the phone call, hey, say hello, where he drops by, shake some hands to leave. Mr. Archer said he stayed for the entire dinner. And in one of the those dinners, of course, you have Elena Botarina, who was the wealthiest woman in Rochta, wife of the former mayor of Moscow, who had paid Hunter Biden significant, several million dollars, and she's there for the entire dinner as well. So that, I think, is interesting,

interesting fact. And that's something that they said he didn't do, but of course, Mr. Archer said, yes, in fact, he was there for the entire dinner. One more thing. There was an interesting article written by Joel Pollock that I saw this morning, that they are talking, that we should be pushing to have Congress, uh, uh, nullify the first impeachment of Donald Trump because yeah, the whole thing was he was trying to, you know, get the president of Ukraine to look into what the dirty dealings were and they said that was dirty dealing. And it looks now like, no, there was a really good reason to ask for that.

It sure does, and we suspected that at the time. It sure does. And I'm all for the expungement. I think it's Congresswoman Stefonic, and I forget who else is sponsoring that. But yeah, we should, I'm totally for that. But yeah, it's always amazing. And remember, that was an impeachment based on anonymous whistleblower with no firsthand knowledge, who had a bias, we'd seen bias against the president, and who had previously worked for Joe. Biden. That was the source. We couldn't know this whistleblower. No, he couldn't. He couldn't testify. Compare that to Gary Shapley and Mr. Ziegler and how they stood up under pressure in a hearing, how their story has not wavered. Their testimony has been consistent. Their story has,

their testimony has been backed up by an FBI agent. Compare the two, and they try to impeach a president. So, of course we should do that. So the last question, compare this to Nixon. better or worse for Joe Biden than the trouble Nixon was in? Well, I think the key is we just got to keep doing our job. And our job, our constitutional duty, frankly, is to provide oversight, do oversight, do the investigation, to get the facts because the facts influence what kind of legislation you propose and pass and implement what you do with the appropriations process and how these agencies are funded, just continue to do our job, bring the facts for.

Let me point out one thing that has happened because of oversight we've done to a different area, but I think it's important, Glenn. Remember when we found out Matt Taibi was testifying in front of our committee. Democrats were trying to give us to divulge sources. He gives him a lecture in the First Amendment, for goodness sake. At the very moment, he's testifying, and he's being attacked. A Democrat by the way, a Democrat member of the press being attacked, the IRS is knocking on his door. Did you see what the IRS announced two weeks ago? And we made a big deal of this.

We dug into, we found out there was a dossier on Taibi. They were looking, before they went to his door, they were looking, did he have a feel carry permit? What was his voting? We find that the IRS makes a change. The IRS says we will no longer be sending agents unannounced visit to American homes. That doesn't happen but for us doing our duty, doing the oversight work we're supposed to do. Now, of course, the IRS says, we did this for agent safety. Bull roar.

They did it because of Adam playing this kind of game. It wasn't just, maybe. We had a person in Ohio where they did this, and the person came to her door and used an alias. He tried to pretend he was somebody else. And the local police thought it was a scam. They were getting ready to arrest the guy. And it turned out he's an IRS agent. So, yeah, and they try to say it's because they're concerned about their agency.

Give me a break. It was because they were harassing the American people. That's why you do oversight because it can affect real change. Jim, I'd like to talk to you off air. Some things are happening in my world that probably should be heard. Some really dirty businesses going on. So I'd like to bring it to your attention off air. Thank you so much, Jim.

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these people. Real estate agents.itrust.com. Done. Okay. Now, let's get right to Chadwick more. Chadwick is the author of Tucker, the new book that is out. Welcome, Chadwick. How are you, sir? I'm doing very well. Thank you. Thank you so much for inviting me on. You bet, you bet. So let's talk a little bit about how this came about. out the biography? Sure. It was we began early last spring in 2022. Basically, my publisher called me up and said,

we want to do a book about Tucker Carlson. We think he's the most important and influential voice in American politics today. And they wanted me to write it and very honored and flattered. And I called up Tucker. And, you know, at first he sort of was like, oh, I don't, you know, I'm not very interesting. And, you know, I don't think anyone want to read this book. And then, you know, I'd been on his show for many, many years, and we knew each other that way. And, you know, he sort of said, you know, I read your columns all the time.

I love your writing. And yeah, let's go for it. Why not? And from there, we were off to the races. Now, you spent about 100 hours with him up at his home in Maine and in Florida. What was the thing that maybe surprised you the most about his life? I think, you know, it's the fact that he isn't someone who can just talk about politics all day long, you know, he's very, his interests are very wide, ranging in deep. And his level of, the extent he goes to to humble himself and to remind himself that he is not God, which is, you know, something that he sort of reminds himself all the time was, you know, really impressive and kind of a wonderful thing to get to know about him.

You know, he's someone who he's very spiritual without having overt, uh, theocratic language and theology taught him. But he's very spiritual and he does really see the current political paradigm as one versus, as good versus evil, uh, which I think sort of, you know, frightens a lot of people in mainstream conservatism. So he is, um, uh, he's going through a spiritual awakening that, unlike I've seen, uh, very often. He's reading the Bible every day.

He is praying about it every day. And like you said, there's no dogma behind it. He is just going through an awakening. Were you around for that? Because I think that's relatively new. Yeah, it does seem relatively new. She was raised Episcopalian, which he sort of says, you know, he's not even sure if that's a Christian Christian religion.

anymore with the direction that the church has gone. But I certainly saw that part of him for sure. And he, you know, just the way he talks about the world, you know, and something, you know, something about, you know, climate change, for example. He's very passionate about the environment, the actual environment, not the green, whatever is going on. But the way he would speak of the environment and basically man's feebleness when it comes to something like controlling the weather, which can extend into, you know,

man, and it's really in controlling many things in the world. You know, there was a very spiritual language and motivation behind that and the way that he's now seeing the world. And I certainly got to see that and to write about it. You were there when he left Fox. And Tucker and I have talked about it that I think it's very interesting. In the end, with me, one of the things that Fox was very clear about was stop talking about God. And at the end with Tucker, he is talking more and more about what's happening in spiritual terms. And I know that drives Murdoch crazy. Do you think that played a role in his exit?

Plenty of speculation about that. It may have been one of the many reasons why they wanted to get rid of him. Interestingly, back in February, this most past February, Tucker had had dinner with Rupert Murdoch and his then-fiancee. And his fiance had described Tucker as a messenger from God to Rupert. People around Rupert had reported that that freaked him out. He didn't like that. That may have added to it. And just the weekend before his show was taken off the air, he gave a speech to the

Heritage Foundation, and he was speaking in terms of religiosity. And he abused, you know, the words good and evil when describing what was happening in American politics. and people have been saying for many years, and as you just said, that, that, you know, talk of God and Christianity really freaks out the Murdox. So that certainly could have contributed to it. So when you have Tucker and he's, you know, you're with him at Fox, I take it he was quite surprised when they called him in and said, you're leaving, correct? Yes, he was for sure. the day it happened, April 23rd,

happened to be the six-year anniversary of his show moving into the 8 p.m. time slot. And when Suzanne Scott, the president of Fox News, called him up that day, he thought that she was calling to congratulate him on the anniversary. And instead, she simply said, we're taking her show off the air, goodbye. They still have not given him an official explanation.

He's still an employee of Fox News as we're speaking. And, you know, I got to interview him a couple times after that moment. and he was certainly shocked as his entire team was but he you know he knows he hasn't done anything wrong he told me that if he had done something wrong if he'd embarrass himself

or embarrassed his family he'd feel badly but he can't feel badly because he didn't do anything wrong as far as he can see the day he was the show was canceled he was planning on talking about Ray Epps is that a coincidence but say I saw his monologue that he planned to read on air that day. It was heavily about Ray Epps and about January 6th. It was also, in a darkly ironic turn,

it was about AOC and other members of government demanding that a show being taken off the air. They'd go, AOC had gone on MSNBC that weekend to basically say that Tucker should be arrested for spreading misinformation or whatever word she's using. And he was, you know, the only person in mainstream media that was really digging into all of the activities that happened on January 6th and really trying to investigate in a role in that. And also this strange character, Ray Epps, who has been not been arrested and has been paraded around mainstream media as some kind of hero. So that was one of many, a handful of issues that he was probably making a lot of enemies in very powerful places.

And it certainly could have contributed to or been the reason why his show was taken off the air. So the Devin Archer interview that he did last night on Twitter or X or whatever he's supposed to say now. Did you see that? I did, yes. Okay. He, I think he played this expertly. Most people don't know, and I don't, I don't mean this in a bad way. I don't mean this in the way I would normally mean this. Tucker grew up as a Washington elite. He knows that circle really, really well. Yet he is when you get to know him, he is anything but the elite, I think, in many ways. He is, uh, he's just a normal guy. Um, but he used his knowledge, I thought, unbelievably well. And he was almost, he got to have an archer to, to almost laugh about like, we both know what's going on.

And that led to some pretty shocking revelations. last night. Am I reading him right on that? I think you really summed it up beautifully. That's sort of exactly what we watched happen. And it's interesting that the DC media wouldn't really find that stuff newsworthy. Either they want to protect people, they don't want to report on it, but they wouldn't quite it newsworthy because they live in that world and it's so normal to them. Tucker realized that it is normal to those people. It's not normal to 330 million. an American who live outside of D.C.

And this is actually interesting. And he drugged that out of Devin Archer so masterfully and wonderfully. It was really something spectacular to watch. So the former head writer for Tucker just tweeted, Fox News decision to ignore Tucker's interview with Devin Archer's infuriating employees who still believe in covering news. Quote from one host, are you effing kidding me? How do we not cover this?

He got Hunter Biden's business partner, casually admit all on a Twitter video. Another top Fox source says the amount of agitation in this building over not being able to use any of Tucker and Devin Archer's sound. Just tons of groaning and cursing from producers and a couple of anchors that it's gold and we're not allowed to touch it, use it or refer to it. They also didn't cover the interviews with all of the candidates, which I think was game changing. You know, I was sitting there at the anchor desk watching him on stage as we covered it at the blaze. And universally, it was, this is game changing, totally game changing. And it was Tucker.

Where is what is happening at Fox? Is there more their speculation that he did a interview with Trump that they never aired, that he had other things from January 6 that they never allowed aired. Is any of that true? That Blaze Media Summit from Iowa was such amazing television or broadcasting, whatever we're calling it on the internet. And I was watching that, and I felt like even the quality of the commentary was so far beyond anything

you would have ever seen on mainstream media. All the commentators were so smart and funny. I'm not just trying to butter you up. I really mean this. And I have a point. Thank you. It was these commentators speaking on the level of Republican voters like they're having drinks with them at a bar. And it made me realize that you would never see that level of connection with voters on Fox or mainstream media.

So that felt like a huge turn in independent media, eclipsing mainstream media. And then, nobody on Fox is allowed to say the T word, Tucker. And I know that from, you know, I got kicked off Fox after I wrote this book. It's actually breaking news now and they can't talk about it. It's so funny to watch. It's amazing. With the stuff that Tucker did, so there's a bunch of interviews people are talking about, as far as I understand it, you know, Fox News owns that.

It's their property. So I don't think he can do much with it. But, you know, there's certainly lots of more January 6th reporting that they had that they're not able to show. Tucker's not able to show on Twitter because Fox owns it. And several other interviews related to that. It's amazing to watch how this is all unfolding and how Foxx is. has really crippled themselves. Yeah, I think they're over.

I mean, I've never seen anything burned down so fast as this. Well, other than the Biden presidency, you talk about in the book that Tucker emphasizes, and I'm just going to quote you here, the importance of having people around who see him as a person rather than a television personality. Who were those people? You know, he's become such a caricature in the right. On the left is a sort of demonic force of all evil. And on the right, he's also, the establishment right, sort of portrayed as reckless and dangerous.

But, you know, you get to go him in his personal life. And, you know, his relationship with his wife, Susie is really sort of a storybook, as storybook as it could get. They're so in love with each other. It's so lovely to watch them interact with one another, as I got to many times. and, you know, they met when they were in high school when they were 15 years old and they've been together ever since.

And, you know, Tucker has surrounds himself with people he can trust. His whole team at Fox. There was no backstabbing. You know, everyone trusted one another. They really loved one another. Nobody was out to subvert anyone else, which is rare in media and especially in television.

And probably because he was such a good leader and they really believed in what he was doing. Another reason why half the team voluntarily left Fox when his show was taken off the air. The other half was unceremoniously fired in one fell swoop last month. But he really makes it. On the day of the Blaze Summit, he was making all kinds of news, and that was the day. They marched everybody out after the show.

I mean, it's, it was brutal. It was brutal. Hang on just a second, Chadwick. I appreciate it. We're talking to Chadwick Moore. He is the author of the new book, Tucker, which was done with Tucker's knowledge and a real great inside look, easy to read, really well written, an inside look behind the scenes of Tucker Carlson. More with him in just a second. Sarah, if you could have one of our producers ask if he can stay on past the bottom of the hour to the next break, another half hour or so.

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10 seconds. Station ID. Read to jump in. You write in the book about the death of his mother. Can you take us through that and how that affected him and the moment he opened up to you about it? Sure. So his mother, her name is Lisa Lombardi, she abandoned her. She was a San Francisco socialite.

And she abandoned her family when Tucker was six years old. She decided that she wanted to be a sort of art world, bohemian. kind of grifter type. She moved to Los Angeles. I spoke to people who knew her, who were in that scene and got their impressions of her, but he never saw her again since then, since she was six years old. She died when, in 2011, they found out in typical fashion of Tucker's father, Dick Carlson, they found out they were moving some boxes from a U-Haul, him and his brother and Dick,

and Susie, his wife was sitting by, and Dick just said, oh, yeah, Lisa died today, and then picked up another box and walked away, and they found out. tail sort of stopped and said what? Wow. But he did, he did, she had a problem with drugs and alcohol. And he just simply had said to her, you know, if you want to talk, call me when you're sober. And then that never happened.

And, you know, he said to me that he was grateful, you know, he doesn't really see himself as a victim, obviously. And, you know, he comes from a long lineage that I wrote about the book of dysfunction and abandonment. His father, Dick, was an orphan. his biological grandfather, Dick's father, committed suicide. Dick's adopted father died at a young age. But Tucker said that he felt lucky that he didn't have to grow up in the same household as a crazy person, meaning his mother.

You know, some people, if she had stuck around, you know, it might have really affected him negatively had he had to go through that. So he has a very, you know, positive take on it. And, you know, I asked Sue, you know, how she thought it affected him. And, you know, she sort of said, of course, it has to. But he never says, you know, he never complains or, or. So did that play a role in his, I hate to use this word because he's not an alcoholic, but his sobriety. He just gave up all alcohol. And he has a real respect for people and a different understanding of people who are in recovery.

give up alcohol? Yeah. You know, I suspect maybe he saw that gene in him because of Lisa's mother. And he gave up alcohol over 30 years ago. And, you know, he wasn't like a mean drunk or a violent drunk, but he, you know, had a problem. He's drinking a lot. He also, you know, he does have a sympathy for people who are in recovery or sober.

He hires a lot of people who are sober. he was also had a friendship with Hunter Biden that I write about in the book. And most of that friendship was not only based on them being, you know, D.C. people, but on sobriety. And he described to me that there are two types of sober people. They're the types that are grateful every day to be sober. And Tucker's one of those. And the type who's one cocktail away from the bender. And that's how he sort of characterized Hunter.

And, you know, he, you know, sort of spoke very, with a lot of emotion about how awful it is, the things that Hunter has done to embarrass his family and his father because he said to me that, you know, the love between Hunter and his dad, despite the alleged corruption and everything else going on, the love there is real. And he, you know, truly believes that they do love each other very much despite, you know, everything Hunter is going to embarrass his family and his father. I find that, I find that weird and hard to believe. But I want to talk to you more about Hunter's family, his upbringing. And I want to go back to what you just said about Hunter and Joe.

We'll do that in just a second. The name of the book is called Tucker. And it is a biography of Tucker Carlson, written by Chadwick Moore. And I don't know how much of a hand Tucker had in it, other than just spilling his guts. But we'll talk about that as well with Chadwick Moore next. The Glenn Back Program.

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What's the difference here? And what role did Tucker play in the writing or editing of this book? Sure. Well, the term authorized biography can mean one of two things. It can mean that the subject simply gave you permission to write about them and gave you tons of access, which was the case here. Or it can mean the subject wanted a book to be written about them. They selected a writer. They had editorial control.

That's not the case here. So Tucker has gave us permission, but he's not asked to read a word of the book. And, you know, he's totally trusted me and trusted my judgment and to put in whatever I wanted to while, you know, giving me access. He's, he had no editorial control at all. It was totally independent. He's, as far as I know, I don't think he's read it yet, but his executive producer, Justin, and several members of his team have read it. They've really enjoyed it. but he again he has a rule that he doesn't read anything about himself so i'm not sure if he'll

stick to that rule this time or not but it probably helps to keep him right yeah no it's i'm i have found that um you know i tell my kids all the time the people who hate me that's not who they don't know who i am and the people who deeply deeply love being like you are the greatest they also don't know who i am the truth is you know somewhere i guess in between so it's just frustrating reading anything about yourself. I, a few years ago, I don't think Tucker and I

really liked or appreciated one another. I thought he was a fraud. I think he thinks that I, I believe he thought at the time I was a fraud. And we've both learned that, holy cow, no, there's something deep behind each one of us. And we become very good friends. Is that a, is that just time catching up with us?

Have the, has the game changed so much that, you know, he has changed? I know I have. Is he changed over the years? Or is it just, you know, Reagan said, you know, everybody has their window and just all of a sudden you can say the same things and then boom, you fall into the slot that is your time. and then eventually, you know, time passes you again. What's happened with Tucker? Is he the same, or does he believe things now that he may not have believed, you know,

five or ten years ago? He had an experience where he was in a plane crash in the Middle East that I write about in the book, and this was, you know, maybe 20 years ago, maybe not quite that long ago. And, you know, he sort of had this moment where he, you know, asked himself, like, is, you know, I guess he thought he was going to die and, you know, is he happy with his life? And as he lived his life the best way possible, and the answer was no at that time. I think since that moment, you know, he maybe went on what we were talking about earlier, that more spiritual journey.

I think he's probably, you know, maybe it's to do with age, maybe it's to do with any number of factors that you do maybe become softer as you get older. You begin to appreciate people more around you and not maybe so quick to judge. I think that he expressed regret before about judging too quickly other people and maybe even other scenarios. And he apologized to that when he's mischaracterized or misjudged. So it's interesting. Let me go back to the family. He's told me recently, and I think this is a great quality, he judges somebody quickly when he has to make a snap on how they treat their family and the relationship that they have with one another. And if the family isn't first, that says something about an individual.

You were just saying that he really thinks that Joe and Hunter really love each other. I can't get past because I come from an alcoholic family. I'm an alcoholic. I cannot get past the fact that this is an abusive relationship, I think all the way around. You know, you don't put Hunter into a position to, where he's, you know, creating the illusion of selling access to you, put him in charge with all of that money, keep bailing him out over and over and over again. That is, that is destructive behavior all the way around. And it's, it just seems to me that, you know, how, how is that love with a family? And,

and then on the reverse side, what family gives your grandfather the keys to the car, when he shouldn't be driving, what family puts their grandfather out in this humiliating fashion right now? How was that love? Yeah. That's, I mean, that is a wonderful point. And especially when your son is an alcoholic and drug addict and is not a very stable person, ruining this kind of responsibility on him and maybe pimping him out in that way. Yeah, I'd have to agree with you.

You know, the way that Tucker described it, he, you know, I don't know, maybe he was talking more on a more animalistic level, but it's, he described the Biden as being very tribal, which he said he appreciated. Oh, yeah. And he also said that they were, when he knew them, they weren't, you know, liberals and trans activists. They were Catholics. They weren't pro-abortion. They were pro-gun. Now, of course, Biden's a trans activist and everything else. and he, you know, he sort of said that Hunter's ex-wife Kathleen, he had a lot of nice things to say about her that she was very dutiful. But sort of the culture you described, she would step up and go on trips with Biden when Dr. Jill didn't want to. Tucker did not have nice things to say about Dr. Jill. And but everything sort of evolved around Joe and Joe was the family business and the whole family needs to evolve around Joe and do anything he wants is the way he described the family.

And I guess, you know, Hunter, obviously the chief lemming in that. The non-compete, how is he getting away with, I mean, is it just because this is different and they didn't include, you know, Twitter and the Internet? And I find that hard to believe. How is he, how did he find his way or is he afraid that Fox News might come after him for the non-compete? So he, I haven't seen his contract, but from what I understand is that Fox did not include Twitter in the non-compete. He is not being paid by Elon Musk and he's not being paid by Twitter. So when Fox sent him a cease and a fifth letter about his Twitter videos, they said that he was rendering services. Well, if he's not being paid legally, I do not think that constitutes rendering services.

he seems to be really pushing the opelope, especially with these longer interviews. I think he's kind of poking the bear because he knows that the more Fox tries to silence him, the absolute worst situation is for them. They look terrible trying to do it. So it seems like he's kind of pushing the limits, and it's kind of entertaining to watch. Let me just ask you just a couple of questions about you here for a sec before we end this. you were canceled in 2017. Can you tell me about that?

Sure. It was right after the inauguration of President Trump. I worked in liberal media. I wrote the New York Times, and I was editor-at-large for Out Magazine, the advocates, and wrote for a bunch of places. And I penned a piece in the New York Post, coming out as conservative.

And I just basically said, you know, I didn't want anyone to think that I was associated with these people on the left, and I believe in free speech, and I don't think Trump is evil, and I'm interested to see what he does. I don't think his supporters are bigots. And that was enough that I was fired from all my jobs, and I lost all my friends. Amazing. And that was the first time I met Tucker.

He had me on his show that following week to discuss the article, and that was how I got to know him. And since then, I was a regular on the show until the last episode. So, so let me, let me take you into into this a bit. I am shocked because all the, all the gay, all my gay friends, they are all looking at what's happening and in the LGBTQ world and saying this is out of hand. This is crazy. This is crazy. And they are not, they're not down with all of this. And I, I can't imagine that there isn't a big. surge of LGBs, I guess, LGBs, yeah, LGBs that aren't now finding themselves, maybe not conservative, but more in line with what the conservatives are saying, and that is, at least I am and the conservatives that I know, do whatever you want. I'm not here to regulate your marriage or anything else. That's for you to decide. Don't tell me what to regulate. But, But this, there is no difference between a man and a woman and all of that crap.

That's insanity. Oh, yeah. Tell me what's happening in the LGBT community? Sure. I mean, you know, back when I, in 2017, when I wrote that article and then I'm a gay guy, the headline was, I'm a gay New Yorker and I'm coming out conservative. You know, it was, there were a couple other prominent people, but not many. But since then, you know, there's thousands of these influencers on social media who are LGBT and even, some T's who are pro-Republican party, who are anti what the left is doing.

The LGBT vote for Donald Trump, according to the New York Times, doubled in 2020 compared to 2016. It was from 16% to 14% to 28%, which is almost a third, which is kind of amazing. And I think you're right that they've learned that all the insane stuff being done in their name is unacceptable and borderlines on evil. It's destructive. It makes no sense. it's illogical.

And if there's no such thing as gender, then there's obviously no such thing as homosexuality, et cetera, et cetera. We could go on forever. But, you know, so many of them privately would admit to this, probably the majority, but publicly it's like any of these kind of victim groups, they're too frightened to publicly speak out. They're too frightened of losing their friends, not getting a date, you know, being socially outcast, even though, you know, silently, most people, I would think, agree with

these things, even if they can't quite yet bring themselves to not vote for the Democrat Party. Chadwick, do you find this changing? Do you find this people are waking up and becoming more strong, or it's status quo? I do find that, that it is that way. And I think it's just witting over hearts and minds and education. You know, the left is so hellbent on framing the Republican Party the way that they do. It's a lot of, you know, it's, it is happening. And there's no reason why gay people should all, should vote exclusively Democrat as with any other minority group. And people are catching on to it, but it doesn't happen overnight. Thank you so much for your hard work and your willingness to come out and, uh, and really blow up your life as you knew

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Yep. And all lies. I remember one of them. I can't remember which one it was, but Jeffrey, we found out. Jeffrey wasn't working with me, but he was an ex-producer at the time of mine, one of my first producers in talk radio. And this author found him and was like, I'm going to get the dirt. And so, Jeffie just made up. all of this crap. I mean, just made things up out of whole cloth. And, uh, and they ended up

being printed in the book. And Jeffrey calls us right after he gives the interview. And he says, I hope you don't mind. But here's what I told them. And we just laughed because we thought he had wasted this guy's time for hours. But he didn't waste it. The guy used it all. Yeah. We kind of assumed like this guy would be chasing down his wild goose chase type stories, like trying to confirm them. And then what we learned was he just put them in there. Yeah. Which is so incredible. But it's so typical. I got to go back and see if I can get any of those books. I should have them on my shelf. It's so funny. He really should. I do think it would be interesting. Have you thought about that sort of approach for yourself at some point? Like maybe

cooperating with a journalist who, you know, maybe isn't super friendly to you, but also doesn't hate your guts like 99% of journalists and and having your story written in that sort of form I think it would be interesting there was a guy who used to guy who used to work for the new york times magazine i can't remember his name but he wrote a very fair uh new york times article about me new york times magazine sunday magazine um and at one point i think he asked if he could do a biography of me if i would participate and i didn't think anybody would be interested in it at the time. I still don't think anybody would be interested, but I don't know. I don't know. Eventually someday, you know, in my life, maybe. I think it's important to, it's really, not even you, who cares

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This is the Glenn Back program. Jonathan Isaac is, uh, he was a power. forward for the Orlando magic, which, you know me, I'm such a sports fan. I was like, yeah, that is forward of him and very powerful. And, uh, wow, he's going to pull a, you know nothing about a hat trick out of his magic hat. You know nothing about sports at all. Nothing. No, but I do know about good people and I do know about people who are standing up with courage and fighting and fighting wisely. He has just, announced a new line of shoes and clothing and everything else called Unitas.

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Thank you so much for having me. You bet. It is great to have you back. I wish we were speaking in person just so I could tower over you and make you feel small. But maybe that's just me. So Jonathan, tell me about Unitas and what you've done. Yes. United's is a values-based alternative to sports and lifestyle leisure wear apparel.

And very simply for me, values matter. I've been saying it for a long time. And as companies and corporations, especially in the sportswear field, continue to move farther away from godly principles and values and constitutional principles values, I thought it was time to create an alternative and give freedom-loving Americans, faith-loving Americans, the options to buy with their values. So you're making leisure wear sportswear, your shoes. What is that?

What's out right now? And where do I get it? Appreciate you. Right now we did our first kind of leisure wear drop, which is like hoodies, sweatpants, sweatshirt, t-shirts. And that's just what it's going to be for right now. And you can head to we are Unitas, U-N-I-T-U-S-W-N-N-I-N-I-N-N-I-N-N-N-I-N-N-N-I-N-N-N-t com. But we have big dreams about where we're going to go.

I want to be in every. every single field, every sport. I want you to be able to go from some of these other companies and get everything full in-house from Unitas. I'm going to be dropping a sneaker, a basketball sneaker, that I'll be wearing this upcoming season, a bit closer to the season time, so September, October, and also offers things like that.

So we've got a lot of things on the cusp, but I'm excited about the launch and how we're doing so far. I have to ask you, Jonathan, just because I've learned a lot from the Smithsonian, and the time to ask is when it's happening and not years after. That was what the American, the guy who heads

of the American History Museum said to me. I would love for my history museum, I don't know if you know this or if you came through our history museum, but we have, we're only surpassed by the National Archives and the Library of Congress when it comes to founding documents

and we have expanded so much into all kinds of things that are game changing in the United States. And I think what you're doing is truly game changing. You are taking on the biggest industry. I mean, you're going, you know, head to head with Nike and Adidas and everybody else. I think what you're doing is game changing. May I get, for the museum, a prototype or a first, you know, edition of your shoes to be able to put into the museum right next to the

Nike Betsy Ross flag shoes that they pulled off the market. 1,000 percent. I definitely got you with that without a question. That's great. That's great. So tell me, I mean, I love the fact that you say, Unitas, it starts with you, ends with us,

but it does have knit right in the middle, which I don't know what means, but I love your slogan, begins with you and ends with us. What does that mean to you? What it means to me is community. I've been through a few things when it came to standing in the bubble and being the only one on my team to not get vaccinated.

I know what it's like to stand alone or feel like you're standing alone. And I know that in today's day, there are so many Americans that feel the same way, but don't have the platform that I have or don't have the people around them that are encouraging them to stand up for what they believe in. So Unitas for me is uniting all of these people, no matter what color you are, no matter what you do, if you understand the value and necessity of these values and you want to see them represented in the marketplace and the culture, then Unitas is for you. And I want you to become a part of this community. So when you're out and about and you see somebody wearing Unitas, you know that that person gets it.

You know that they stand for the same values that they stand for. You may disagree on other things or maybe not, but you know that they have a founding. and faith I'm trying to build. So it starts with you. So in 2020, you were the lone NBA player not to kneel for the national anthem. And then we have COVID and you wouldn't take the vaccine. How scary of a time was that for you? It was terribly scary.

And, you know, it's died down a bunch now. But every time I think back about those time periods, so much hysteria rising. and I'm just glad that I had the people around me to give me the confidence and trust that I was doing the right thing. I knew that true change wasn't going to come through an organization or wasn't going to come through a party. I felt that it was truly going to come through the gospel of Jesus Christ, that we could have real change and we all could see. Look, we all fall short of God's glory, and the answer is to love. And so I decided to stand up and say that. And I got tons of negativity for it, but the positivity that showered from it was amazing.

And people understood where I was coming from. And so I was excited about that. And the same thing with the vaccine. I tried my best to be thoughtful and clear about my position and how I felt that everyone should have the free choice to decide what they want to do with their bodies when it comes to the vaccine. So, you know, you look now at what's happening with the vaccine. The Pentagon just did a study. and they show that what is it,

carditis, Stu, what is that? Heart condition. Myocarditis? Myocarditis, yeah. And they said that in the, with the military, they found an extraordinary

out-of-wack number with young people who have myocarditis, not after the first Vax, but after the second Vax, it went through the roof. And you're seeing young athletes now, people who are really healthy.

And I know this, has happened in the past. I mean, it's it is it's not common, but it does happen. But now you're seeing all of these sports figures and all of these young athletes. Is this out of whack or is it just that we're noticing it? No, I would say it's out of whack. I would say it's it's extremely unfortunate given the way that COVID and everything was handled. I know that there are plenty of people that feel, I guess, robbed in a sense and let down because of the things that are happening. And who knows, you know, people are talking about it could it be, could it be, could it have been COVID, could have been the vaccines. I know you just talked about it being a spike

after the second shot. You know, I'm not one to just lay blame and say it is what it is, but I do think that as time goes on, there is going to be a mass, I would say just reckoning for what happened in the way that things were handled, the pressure that people were under to get vaccinated. And I think it is a disservice to the American people for what happened. So back to your product, Unitas. You are making shoes and are soon to be shoes, but sports clothing, sweats, t-shirts, polos, et cetera, et cetera. And you're doing it on your own. You, I assume you don't have any big, or do you have any big outlets that are coming to you and saying, hey, we want to be a pariah and stand with you.

Do you have any big outlets or is it all online? Not yet. It's definitely something that I'd be open to, but right now we are just direct-to-consumer at we areunited.com. And I have, again, big dreams about where we could go. I definitely want to have the opportunity to sponsor for colleges and high schools and things like that as we move forward. who knows. But I'm just kind of taking it one step at a time. There are plenty of Christian,

Catholic universities and high schools and stuff. So we're working on it. But right now it is just me. And we're looking for people to come on board and help support. And if a big outlet wants to take us to have them in their stores, we'd be open to it. My son has just become a college football coach, which is shocking because I barely even know what football is. But I would love to, and I'll foot the bill, I would love to outfit his team and the coaches with your product. If they would do it, I don't know if they would do it, but I would love to outfit his team on that. You are taking on, you're taking on everybody, and then you're also not making anything in China. Everything has to be ethically made.

I know, because I started a clothing company years ago, that's really almost suicidal to do that. It is so hard to get things of quality made at a reasonably price, at a reasonable price. How are you doing that? It is very difficult. And why are you doing it? Yeah. So for me, I'm not necessarily. And in a sense, I say like an absolutist in terms of like, because at the end of the day,

all of us in some way, ship or form use things that are produced in China. And so I'm not necessarily at that point of, okay, we can never use anything China. It's just, it's very hard to do. For me personally, when it came to Unitas, I had my own conviction that I did not want to manufacture anything in China. That was my choice. And I decided to go that route. Does it make everything exponentially harder?

Yes. Does it make producing the clothes harder? Absolutely. But it was something that I wanted to do. And so when it comes to the sneakers, I got hooked up with a company called SoulWorks, and they were able to find an ethically operating factory in Vietnam when it came to sneakers. And so that's where we're at right now when it comes to sneakers. We are sourcing clothing material out of Peru.

and Turkey and everything is being embroidered and stitched in the United States in Chicago. And so it does make everything much harder to produce and we're working on finding ways to mitigate some of those costs and things like that. And it's going to take some time. But I think we made the right decision by just saying, you know what, for this especially, I know we use things produced in China all the time. But for me, I wanted to not create that effect. aviation.

Jonathan, I have profound respect for you. I have no idea what you do, really. I've never seen you play a game, but I have tremendous respect for what you stand for and the fight that you fight every day and the stand that you take. So congratulations on this. And it has started with you and it will end with us. Unitas is the name of the product. Thank you so much.

I appreciate you, Glenn. Thank you so much for having me on. Thank you. Jonathan Isaac, and again, we areunitus.com. We areunitus.com. That's another way to show Nike and everybody else. Yeah. I mean, now there's a good product out there that you can get.

It speaks to your values. And, you know, hopefully Nike will see eventually, you know, kind of a bud light kind of action against them. Not because we're boycotting them, just because we don't need you. We have something that stands for our values. We are Unitas.com. Do you ever find yourself just waiting for the other shoe to drop?

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which I believe he's going into year, I think it's year three or four now. I think it was 2020. He signed it. But yeah, I mean, he's a big deal. And also a guy who, I mean, it took an incredible stance. I mean, he sort of undersells what a big deal that was when he was not taking a knee. I mean, the COVID vaccine stance was was very difficult as well. But you did see other athletes do that type of thing.

There was almost, especially him. Not only him doing it, but also him being an African-American doing it was incredibly important and powerful in that moment. I think when he did it at least, he was the only NBA player. I think you're right. I think he was the only one. It's interesting, too. This is before I even knew we had him on the air. I got a text from my wife the other day that she had already purchased like several items for me and my son and her from his new company just to support it. because, you know, you look at this and there are really no competitors in that,

in that world that aren't like off the reservation. Correct. How dare you say that? Redskine lover. Oh, my gosh, you are horrible. Anyway, you know, here's what I would really like to recommend is that if you have a little league team or, you know, a soccer team or anything else, your kids are participating, in get the parents together and see if you can outlaw outfit the entire team in as much of his

garb as possible we can make this into a really cool product because it is a cool product and we can help him spread the word just by buying his products right now i think this is such an important thing he's taking a gigantic risk i've talked to him about this for gosh almost two years now um and uh he to me to the launch party, I think was Saturday and I just couldn't make it. But I would have loved to be there. I think this is a historic moment. I think this is another one of those things that can truly change the course. Because you start biting into Adidas or Nike. That's a really big deal. I mean, you really make an impact. And this is something unlike Target that is not going to be a hassle for you. you. This is much more like, you know, Bud Light. You just, no, I don't want that. I want that. And his values are rock solid. And if you can order anything from him, I would love to see a big spike for him today just to say thank you. But I'm serious. If my son's team will do it, I'll outfit the whole team in Unitas product. I think it would be great to have that scene, you know, on the national scale and start to make an impact.

His shoes come out in September, he said. We areunitus.com. We are unitas.com. Unitas, by the way, starts with a you, ends with an us, and has knit in the middle of it. They left that part out of the slogan for some reason. I don't know why the, yeah, the knit part is really important. Not with a K, just like knit as a knit win, I think. So, Unitas.

We are Unitas.com. Back with more in a minute. The Glenn Beck Program. Oh, yeah. So you want to know the main reason why I feel is necessary to prepare for disaster and why I come on this program and encourage you to look into things like putting some money, you know, that you have in gold or silver. It's because I'm a student of history. I've seen how certain things, especially the really bad things, tend to happen over and over and over again.

And they don't repeat itself exactly, but they rhyme. And so when you start hearing, you know, the poet come out and the history is rhyming, you might want to prepare. Because it usually doesn't end well. Being a student of history has convinced me that being ready for those things that could come is of paramount importance to me, my family, to you and yours as well. Would you please find out if you can become economically defensive with Goldline? They have a special offer on their historic $5 Gold Liberty Indian head coins. Every tube or box of $20, $5 gold liberty and Indian head coins you're going to require this week. You'll receive five of the one-out silver goldline bars

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So it wasn't random. But can we pull the poll up here, the results of the poll? We did a show on the deep state and what is happening. Wow, can't read that, Stu. Sorry, can you read those? This is something we did with a deep, still not big enough. We did on the deep state. I did a show on Wednesday that is so important,

and I'll probably get into it here in just a little bit, and probably tomorrow. The facts of what is going on with this election on the left is truly terrifying. And if you don't wake up and don't go to your local and your state GOP and demand answers and action, we will lose the next election based on nothing other than what I show you in the Wednesday night special this week. If you haven't seen it yet, get it while you can on my YouTube channel, YouTube Glenn Beck, also on Blaze TV

and you can watch it from the Wednesday night special. Can you go through this real quickly? Yeah, sure. Do you think the deep state is real? 98% say yes. Do you believe the deep state is biased against conservatives? 99% say yes.

Do you believe the deep state interferes with our election system? 99% say yes. Do you think our election system is overall reliable and elects the people's preferred candidate? 97% said, no. That's, that's, I know this is obviously not a scientific poll by any means, but it is a, it's a bit concerning that any group of people would come out as 97% no on a question like that. That says we've got work to do to, to increase people's confidence. Yeah. In the election system. Do you think the deep state effectively interferes with our election system to get their preferred candidate in power? 99% say yes. And really the only one with any split was this one. Do you believe the deep state can be stopped and dismantled. 72% say yes,

28% say no. I was much more pessimistic on that one. I was like, I know. I know. I love those people. All right. Just to show you that we believe that too entirely.

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But anyway, this is a great, funny look at Dark Future. There's lots of ad libs. I tried to make it a little more palatable. But grab it online now and you can get it, you know, wherever you buy your books or go to Audible or Amazon and grab the, audio version of the book. Okay, I want to talk to you about something that I heard from Russell Brand on his podcast, Stay Free. He had Vendana Shiva on, and I want you to hear what she said. Listen. There are three things that you cannot give up if you want to stay free. Yeah, we do want to stay free. First, your ability to know and distinguish between truth and untruth. And not allow

post-truth to be projected as truth and the truth speakers to be projected as conspirators. The second is our ability to relate to each other without the intervention of a surveillance state and surveillance cooperation. And third, because food is what makes us, it becomes our blood, ourselves, our brain, to not allow the totalitarian takeover of food to make it, fake food and push it as the next liberation. So the contest today is around these issues. Speak freely. Tell the truth. This is this is, uh, Vandana Shiva again with Russell Brand. And she said something incredibly important in that clip. And we talk about it in dark future. It is so important. She said, we cannot allow the totalitarian takeover of food.

it seems almost unbelievable. Food fascism. But let's unravel this together here for a second. Most of us go to the grocery store, buy our food, and never think about where it came from. There are kids that honestly do not know that apples come from a tree.

They have no idea how the meat is grown or ends up in the supermarket. They have no idea what it is. Meanwhile, Bill Gates has become, the largest private owner of farmland in the country. He along with corporations like Monsanto and Cargill, who maybe you've never heard of before, probably the most powerful agricultural company on the planet, represent a growing movement to exchange local, smaller scale farmers for corporations and an elite wealthy class. The food is not their priority. Money is their priority.

the planet is not their priority being more natural more healthy they are starting to grow lab food they're starting to grow meat which is not meat in the laboratory in bags that doesn't that sounds like you're trying to be god when you take uh seeds and you genetically change them so they are patented and they do not you it forces you to buy seeds year after year after year after year That's not about being more natural, more healthy, more planet friendly at all. It's about money. When Bill Gates was asked why he's buying up so much farmland, he said, quote, my investment group chose to do this.

This is while he's promoting his book, How to Avoid a Climate Disaster. He explicitly said buying farmland is not connected to the climate. Now, wait a, hold it. What? This is not about altruism. It's about selling potatoes to McDonald's, and yes, he does that. In the 1970, President Nixon's Secretary of Agriculture famously said that farmers have to, quote, get big or get out. This has unfortunately become more like a fact now than a suggestion, and the local farmer is going extinct. In its place are the Bill Gates, the major corporations,

and the new technology. We're moving into an era of farms without farmers. One day, we may not have farms, but rather laboratories. You know, so we can heal the earth. Bill Gates has invested in companies creating synthetic meat in laboratories. He said in an interview, quote, I do think all rich countries should move to 100% synthetic beef. You can get used to the taste difference, and the claim is they're going to make it taste

even better over time. Eventually, that green premium is modest enough that you can sort of change the behavior of people or use regulations to totally shift the demand. Notice he doesn't say it's healthier. I mean, as we are worried, as the left has rightly so been worried about GMOs, they've been worried about, you know, eating more and more synthetic products. Now they're seemingly on board with growing everything in a bag. Why would we want to eat synthetic meat for the environment, right? No. A study out of UC Davis found that lab grown meats environmental impact may be orders of magnitude higher than regular meat. Let me say that again. UC Davis, lab grown meats environmental impact may be orders of magnitude higher than regular meat.

So why is Bill Gates? Oh, and Cargill investing in it? Bill Gates is also investing in AI, even though MIT found that training one AI model can admit 626,000 pounds of carbon dioxide, which is the light of. time emissions of five cars. Hmm. So it's not about the environment. But let's give Bill Gates and Cargill and Monsanto the benefit of the doubt here. Let's say they really are pursuing a monopoly on our food on our behalf. Uh-huh. The pandemic woke us up to the fact that we are all very reliant on a series of complex systems that could fail at any time. The grocery stores stop getting groceries. When that happens, most of us die. Say that happens again. Say you're hungry. Who do you want to go to? The local farmer or Bill Gates? Who do you trust with your food? You know, Maslow had the hierarchy of needs. It's physiological needs like food. That's the baseline. If you don't have food and water, nothing else matters. Henry Cabot Lodge, American diplomat once said, a hungry man is interested more in four sandwiches than he is in the

four freedoms. But people who are healthy and have enough to eat will be strong enough to fight against aggression from without or from within. Soviet Union, they tried collective ice farming. That ended in a man-made famine that killed millions of Ukrainians. Stalin traded out local farms for collective government farms and the farmers who resisted were labeled enemies of the state. He controlled their food, which meant he controlled their lives. So food is a freedom issue, but it's also a faith issue. We have been totally disconnected from creation. These people think that they are gods. If you read the Bible, it is full of agricultural references. I am the Vine. You are the branches.

You'll know them by their fruit. There are holidays in the Bible that center on planting and harvesting. Paul wrote in Romans that God's invisible qualities can be understood by looking at what God has made. God made creation to teach us about Him. If we forget how to interact with His creation, won't we fall victim to forgetting about Him even more than we already have? It is God who feeds us, not Bill Gates, not Cargill. We're relying on those corporations and people who like to play God. This is extraordinarily dangerous.

You can find much more about it in the new book Dark Future. But the answer, like in many other issues, is localization. It's each of us in some way getting closer to our food source, whether that's buying it from someplace local or just starting a garden. And you don't have to be worried about the intentions of these billionaires and corporations controlling our food supply to see the benefit in decentralizing food. Better for our health, better for the land, better for our communities. But it will take all of us doing something, even something small, to take back control of what

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He claims that he is on our side, but he has hid the news from you about what is going on in the Hang-Zoo Zoo. I hit the news on the Glenn Beck program. The Glenn Beck

program, it was my fault. Yes, it was. Because, Your Honor, I have been controlled by him forever. I don't believe any of that stuff. But pictures have been taken of a sun bear in China's Hangzhou Zoo. And it looks like, have you seen these pictures, Stu? Of course, you have been hiding them. That's right.

I've been hiding them. So I had to have seen them. Yes. Right. It's out on our today's show prep. If you don't get today's show prep, you know, you're going to miss all of this. or you can just go to the New York Post. But there's pictures of the bear standing up in the bear cave.

And his picture is taken from his on his back. Do we have that? Yeah. Okay. So there he is. He's standing and he's waving. And notice he's, it is. Come on.

There's no way that's real. Okay. They're saying it is. They're saying it is. Then there's another picture of him from behind. I mean, look at that. Another picture from. behind and right where is you know right where his neck starts there's a big bump on his neck

which appears to be the head of somebody in a bear suit okay and look at the fur down by his belly he strangely has a like a beer belly uh from uh you know from some guy uh and then his legs are completely straight and he's got this extra skin there that looks like fabric. Now, the Edinburgh Zoo, all these English zoos, which I bet you get money from China, are claiming that's not a man in a bear suit. See, this is the kind of hard-hitting stuff. You're not going to get from other shows.

You're just not going to get it. Or from this show, because I hide it from everyone. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. That is a Chinese man in a bear suit.