The Glenn Beck Program - The Desperate Attempt to Link Pelosi Attacker to GOP | Guests: Michael Shellenberger & John Ziegler | 10/31/22

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

An intruder brutally attacked Nancy Pelosi's husband, Paul, at his home, and the media quickly tried to paint the perpetrator as a MAGA extremist and link the attack to the GOP at large. Glenn goes th...rough the facts and lays out the inconsistencies of the story being fed to us. Pat Gray joins the guys to go over Paul Pelosi's attacker, his possible ideological leanings, and the media's manipulation of the story. Author of "San Fransicko" Michael Shellenberger dives deep into the attack on Paul Pelosi and the dangers of nationalizing oil and gas. "The Death Of Journalism" co-host John Ziegler joins to give his unique take on Paul Pelosi's attacker and the journalistic standards he uses. Glenn and Stu review the absurd responses to Kanye West's controversial statements. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:20 than what the media is trying to spin with the Pelosi, break-in. We begin there in 60 seconds. There it was again peeking through the windows like a solitary, sinister eye, the full moon. Already the man could feel his clothing falling away from his body. He felt the bones beneath his skin getting longer claws, beginning to form at the edges of his fingers, his face morphing into a machine of ghastly teeth and fur. In moments, he would be a killing machine. be a killing machine tearing into the night like a dagger in search of blood and death.
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Starting point is 00:04:52 This is the things that have been reported and I'm not sure we're sure of all of this. May 20, 22. Paul Pelosi was in a DUI car crash. The passenger airbag goes off, even though he was. alone. We don't know why. I don't know if that's usual. He pleads guilty on the 23rd of August. On the 24th, there was some random schizo posting that started on a blog that had been dormant for 15 years. On September 8th, the, I think it's, friendly friends site, is registered in the name of DePup Bay. He's a hippie.
Starting point is 00:05:37 but we'll get into that in a minute. On September 8th, the site is registered in his name, however, there are no posts. On October 24th, loads of posts are made on the website. While posted in October, they're titled February, to make it seem like they were much older. Then on October 28th, four days later, at 2.27 a.m., the police arrived at the Pelosi residence for a welfare check. Now, this is what they said at first. Someone opened the door.
Starting point is 00:06:13 A third person opened the door for the police. However, they have said, no, that was a mistake. There was no other person in the house except those two. The glass door is also busted. It appears to be busted from the inside. I mean, I watched enough Colombo. Excuse me, sir. One more thing.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Wouldn't the glass? be on the inside of the door and not the outside of the door. But we don't know what kind of glass it was. We have no idea. Pelosi and DePape are inside in their underwear. Now, this too has been changed. Nobody was in their underwear. Now, I would expect, I mean, DePape, I mean, Pelosi, he's, what, 85, it's 2 o'clock in
Starting point is 00:07:05 a morning, I'd expect him to be in his jammies or his underpants. You know, that's not on it. The De Pape in his underpants is a little weird. But now police say nobody in their underpants. I think if you saw either one of those two in your underpants, you would be very clear. You'd remember they were in their underpants. For the rest of your life. Yes. Pelosi has a hammer. and when the police arrive, De Pape manages to take the hammer from Pelosi and bashes his head multiple times. All of that happens while the police are there.
Starting point is 00:07:44 So while pulping Paul Pelosi, De Pape repeatedly says, where's Nancy? Where's Nancy? Police take him into custody. Media and the Democrats immediately point to the schizo blog and say, he's a far-right terrorist. Street view images from DePope's home show BLM signs and a Bernie sign. The home is referred to by a neighbor as a hippie collective.
Starting point is 00:08:12 In fact, we have audio from a neighbor who is quite clear on who this guy was. Cut one. Our vehicle was out of commission. I was walking past and Gypsy's son was with a small, little girl and he was on the bus and the little girl and just a second please we're going to take this piece by piece um his little girl i'm sorry his little boy who was dressed as a girl was on the bus i just want to just keep track of all of the things that you're like oh you clearly clearly a conservative all right go ahead us and the little girl and gypsy son were walking away from the bus and the guy
Starting point is 00:09:01 remained on the bus. And that's when I recognized his face. So the only time I ever saw his face was within like the last month or so. Or a couple weeks. Do you know how he, how long he stayed during that a couple months ago or whatever? No, we try to just avoid them at all cost.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Okay. Until they, you know, bother us. Okay, but so the last time you saw was a couple weeks ago? Yeah. And he was here for a few days? Yes. Okay. Anything strange about him or anything that stood up?
Starting point is 00:09:27 There's something strange about the whole household. The entire household is very, very strict. How about him? He is birds of a feather with akin to them. So they are just you know, nudist drug abusers and
Starting point is 00:09:43 that's who gravitates toward them. Okay, stop for a second. How many times, Stu, at the GOP meetings have you been to where it's attended by all those nudists drug users? Well, I know. CEPAC has that part of the convention. Yeah, yeah. The nudist drug user. Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah. Big part there. Yeah. It's trouble when they get those two together. Right. They're usually right near each other, but they do try to keep them separate. And these are usually the people that just to throw people off, have a rainbow flag in the front yard and a BLM sign
Starting point is 00:10:14 on their front window. A lot of hardcore conservatives have that profile. Yeah. A lot of times. That's just the way it goes. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Next. I'm sorry, the children who live there seem to be under age or under 18. I'm not sure how old they are.
Starting point is 00:10:29 What do you say their politics are? I'm not sure. I would imagine that they're more left-leaning because of their support for the gay community and for other people, but it is, now I'm not sure what way it is... Okay, stop for a second. Look at how she is hesitating.
Starting point is 00:10:55 She's calculating. She's calculating the whole time. because of the rainbow flag, okay, and the BLM sign. So it becomes the gay community and others. Right, you should need to figure out how to say it. You can't say it. And by the way, I don't know what would you say her ethnicity is. Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I don't know. I don't know. Right. I mean, you wouldn't, it doesn't look like, you know, the typical white Karen that's next door upset about the, the left-wing neighbors. No, no, no. She talks about her partner. So, and I think she says that pretty much everybody in the neighborhood is a lefty.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Mm-hmm. So, yeah, and of course that's true. Yeah, in San Francisco. All right. Because they have the flag, the LGBT flag with the pot. Yeah, yeah. But any signs of anti-Semitism? You know, they are completely unhinged, so I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Uh, it, they- Really un-inched. Nothing that they believe in aligns with their actions. So they'll say that they are, you know, pro-black lives, and then they'll call the police on black people. And so they don't stand by, their actions don't stand by their words. Just so you know, this isn't because they're not mutually exclusive. You can actually think a black person is committing a crime and still be in favor of black lives.
Starting point is 00:12:16 But I think I get what she's going for them. It's like, Glenn. George Soros is white. Oh, crap. I should forget whatever I said about George Soros. and some psychotic behavior too. Was that also demonstrated when David was a president or was that times? Yeah. Yeah. It's never changed how they've acted.
Starting point is 00:12:38 David acted the same way? From what I saw of him, he's never approached me or my partner at all. But I've just seen him helping out around the house with yard work and then I saw him living on the bus. I've never even heard him speak. Did you know his name or you just were, I didn't recognize his name, but I also don't know the name of the kids either. Okay, you just recognize this picture from today. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Yeah. Okay. So that's who the neighbor says he is. Now, there's a few questions that have to be answered here. How did he get into the house? How did he get in the house? Did he get in the house through the back door and did he break it? and is that what Paul first heard?
Starting point is 00:13:27 Is this a failure of the Capitol Police? Remember, she's under Capitol Police protection, which because she's third in line for the presidency, God help us all. Can you imagine how bad the country would be? If we have Joe Biden and then it would go to Kamala and then she gets sick and dies, and we have Nancy Pelosi.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Do we even survive? that anyway because she's third in line she has not only capital police but she has increased secret service do you remember when we were at George H.W. Bush's house okay and remember they had the the sensors on the ground they could tell where feet were it it was like a little mini earthquake detector almost They position them all through the yard so they could see or they could hear and see where people were on the grounds. She apparently has that. If she doesn't, then somebody told them not to have that.
Starting point is 00:14:41 But that's the kind of security that number three position has. So we know, because we've seen photos this weekend, of video cameras. These are high-ta... This is government. This isn't like local security. They're like, you know what? I'm just going door to door selling burglar alarms. This was done by the government.
Starting point is 00:15:03 So let's see the tapes. Let's see the tapes. How did the guy get in? Why have we not seen those tapes? Why haven't we see... Why don't we see the vest cameras from the police? It's only been a couple days. That would be the excuse there, right?
Starting point is 00:15:21 I know that. But it's, here's what bothers me. The security. Yeah. No, because you mentioned now this is not just some like, you know, private security. Well, there's been reports that they also had that, that the neighborhood came together to pay for group security for this area because they're also rich and they live in a town where crime is rampant because of their policies.
Starting point is 00:15:44 So they've paid for private security to help assist in this area just in case and control it all the time. So if that's true, and there's been multiple reports to that effect. So this guy somehow evaded private security and whatever security measures the government put it to get in. It's a very strange story. Why did Big Tech take down DePapa's alleged social accounts? This is a really frustrating part of this.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Yeah. Because we, look, of course, every media source is trying to say this is some right-wing extremist, which does not fit the profile at all. But like, we can't check any of their. reporting. Yeah. They pull this down every time and I get why they do it with certain people like a mass shooter that might have a manifesto that they don't want to inspire or copycats or whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:31 But this is not that case. No. Why wouldn't we be able to see all of his postings? This would be important. Yeah. It's, uh, it's really weird. It's really strange. Uh, he is, um, he apparently is far right.
Starting point is 00:16:48 And this is what the, this is what the L.A. Times is telling us that he's a far right guy that is a fan of Glenn Beck. And everyone's reporting that. Daily wire. Yeah. I mean, thank you for that. I'm just trying to go through now. Let me just go back to who he is.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Now, know that he is supposedly a fan of mine. Okay. He was a nudist. I can see all the nudists just loving this program. He was a hippie. Love it. He was a San Francisco. Love it.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Black Lives Matter supporter. Love it. QAnon supporter. Hmm. You don't get a lot of Q&on news from this program, do you? No, he didn't know. No, no. He also apparently loved Peefell.
Starting point is 00:17:48 a gate. You mean the thing that I said from the beginning was nonsense? Really, that thing? He was also, and I mean, if you listen to this program, you can see why he was a fan. He hated Jews. Now, that's weird that he'd be a fan of the person who won the Defender of Israel Award. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be really strange because. It's weird. I've been talking about anti-Semitism on the rise for 20 years. that'd be really weird for him to be a big fan of the show. A big fan of the show. Maybe he just was inspired, just really liked your big event you had in Israel. Right. About the defense of Israel. And yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:18:33 He also said that equity was a dog whistle for the genocide of the white race. Okay. That's something that we also took on here recently and said that's ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. Equity is a BS social justice sort of sort of term and we have pointed out issues with it. But the genocide, not a lot of airtime for the genocide of the white race going on. Right. Right. So you can see we had a lot in common. I can see why he was a fan of this program. That doesn't really make sense now, does it? No. And it would be nice to be able to be able to
Starting point is 00:19:19 to check the work of the media because we know they would not tell us the truth if something else was going on. Yeah. All right. More on this in just a second. American financing NMLS-182334. www. nmLS Consumer Access.org. Every morning after the full moon, the man who had been Wolfman at night would awake in his home, surrounded by all the things that he had broken in his dog-like french.
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Starting point is 00:21:34 It's going to happen to the wolfman. I don't know. I just don't know. I will be here to find out. I'm paid to. So I will be here to find out. It's got to be good. This is a weird story, though. We don't want to jump to conclusions.
Starting point is 00:21:51 You know what? Here's what I really think happened. I think somehow or another, the security was turned off, which needs to be investigated. But I think this guy is just crazy, crazy, crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:10 He broke in, started going after Paul. Paul went into the bathroom and made the phone call, spoke code, brightly so, to the police officers. The dispatch was
Starting point is 00:22:25 very sharp, picked up on it, made for a, you know, code red. they got there By the way, he's not in jail. Did you know that? Hippie boy, not in jail. He's still in the hospital.
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Starting point is 00:23:09 of the thing that had once been a man. A policeman shook his head. Too bad, he said. The guy owed me 30 bucks before the old lady cursed him. Guess I'll never see that now, said the police officer with a strange Barack Obama Irish accent. Not likely, said another policeman. The old wolfman left all his money to charity.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Maybe to make up for being such a monster. The first policeman, who had seen the commercial before and knew the drill said, charity, what charity? The Tunnel to Towers Foundation, said the policeman. When a service member or people like us get shot in the line of duty? Well, they take care of the mortgage for the family. Wow, said the other policeman. He left all his money to them.
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Starting point is 00:24:28 Oh, it's good to have you. Oh. Love your costume. That is the best mask I've ever seen. Thank you. Scary as hell. Yeah. Really? I know.
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Starting point is 00:24:45 It's good. Don't know exactly who you're supposed to be, but it's really good. So what are your thoughts? on the Nancy Pelosi shooting. What story? What story? Are you breaking a new one? No, no, no, no. The Nancy Pelosi's husband being hammered. Can't you say that either.
Starting point is 00:25:05 That's a whole different story. That's a whole difference earlier. The debacle that happened at the Pelosi compound. Yeah, well, that's right-wing cooks for you, isn't it? That's what they do. That's what they do. White supremacists and Maga-Repop. That's what they do. Mega MAGA Republicans.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Mega, MAGA, Republicans who are incredibly violent. I think we're going to find, I think there's some other things going on. I mean, the guy, when you go to his house, Michael Schellenberger did a really good article on this. He's joining us, by the way, in about half an hour. Oh, yeah. It's really good. I mean, go to his house and take a look around and then tell me the guy's a right-wing. Maga Republican.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Right. He's living in a bus. He's living in a bus. he's practically homeless. He's, he's, not that you can't be a Maga Republican and be homeless. I just don't know that many, but. Do you know a lot of homeless people? A few, a few. Do you?
Starting point is 00:26:01 Yeah. Huh. And they, have you offered them maybe some help? A hand-down. Yeah, a sandwich, but then I got fined for it. You can't feed them. All right. Unless the city of the homeless.
Starting point is 00:26:13 But then the LGBT rainbow flag is another tale-tale sign. of Maga Republicanism. I mean, the BLM sign. The BLM sign, all of that is. And the hemp bracelet making that he did. How many hemp bracelets have you made? Right. Between the necklaces and the hemp bracelets.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And the fact that he was, I don't know if it was a traditional marriage, but married to the other girl who had a nude wedding in San Francisco City Hall. Yeah, there does seem to be some nudism going on. Yeah. and she also got her older son to try to deliver love letters to this underage boy that she wanted to escape with. I mean, if it's not the moral majority, I don't know what the moral majority is. It's like I listen to, I can't even tell you how many, you know, mainstream media podcasts this weekend to try to get, to try to understand the narrative and what they were telling us. Me too. What was true?
Starting point is 00:27:19 Because I'd like to know. We have to know. We have to know. And if the viewpoint is that this person was a left-wing hippie nudist for many, many years, who over the recent future went through some sort of transformation and became a right-wing figure. I don't blame the Democrats. I don't blame the Democrats. I don't blame the Republicans for that.
Starting point is 00:27:41 But I do blame the media because every single one of these stories went through the recent posting, including this person followed Glenn Beck and the Daily Wire. Jordan Peterson. That was just right-wing people that he followed on his Facebook. But just recently, he found us. To not include, though, his entire left, like, the fact that his house. Jesus is the Antichrist? No, no, yeah, yeah, Jesus, well, that's another thing.
Starting point is 00:28:11 You know, if you listen to this program, how anti-Jesus we are. You can see why he's a fan. But he also believed he was Jesus for, it seems like, over a year he believed he was Jesus. But like you, how can, if you are an honest media organization, and I know I wasn't listening to them, which is the problem here. But like, if you were honest, you would mention both, right? You might mention, okay, look, he has some conspiracy theories on there. He had anti-Semitism on there. He had left-wing nudism stuff. He had a BLM sign. I mean, it's easy, I think, to come to the conclusion that this was not a story of political extremism. It was a story of someone who did drugs
Starting point is 00:28:52 for multiple decades and blew his mind up. And he's nuts. But here's the thing. They're even saying, I don't remember which paper it was one of the LA Times, New York Times of the Post, but they're saying even if he was crazy, it's still that dangerous rhetoric that fed into his head. Well, let me ask you this. Did we ban Jody Foster? I mean, when Hinkley said, I just, I wanted to impress her because I love her and I watch all of her movies and I thought this would impress her and he tried to kill Ronald Reagan. Was there one peep of saying, this is Jody Foster's? We got to put pants and a big coat on that woman, make sure she looks very unattractive or ban her movies. No. There was no talk of that.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And of course, that would be the same approach to a story like that. Yes. Just like, by the way, we did not blame Bernie Sanders for his own, his campaign volunteer trying to shoot 10% of all elected Republicans in Washington, D.C. By the way, can I ask, why the concern here about this guy and the guy who flew in, I think, from San Francisco to kill Kavanaugh? Yeah, much more recently. It was just like gone. Yeah. They didn't care.
Starting point is 00:30:15 They didn't even cover it. Nobody cared. Do we, do you know that the Sunday news programs that week didn't even cover the Kavanaugh story? Didn't even cover it. Didn't even cover it. Didn't even cover it. Now, of course, the difference here is number one. They get to blame the other side.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And number two, we are eight days away from an election. And they will do anything to get these seats to go the right way. they will not report. We are in the Hunter Biden window here. We learn about the truth of Hunter Biden from the mainstream media approximately one year after it's relevant to an election and one year before it's relevant to an election. As far away from an election as possible.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Well, now that we're a week, we are in full-fledged, the Hunter Biden window, where the media seems to have completely convinced themselves, they can abandon all, all appearance. of journalism to try to win this election, to do anything they can to flip one or two seats here or there in an area that might have gone red, make them go blue, anything we can do. That's where they are right now.
Starting point is 00:31:23 So you really, the mainstream media never has a sufficient bank of trust that we should all be believing exists. But I will say, now you have to, you can't believe anything they say. You can't believe anything they say for the next week. You can't. I have to tell you. They say, you know, all these crazy conspiracies. What?
Starting point is 00:31:45 Like the one that Hillary Clinton is currently pushing about the 2024 election, saying that it's all going to be stolen by the Republicans. They're all saying this. That there is this giant cabal of MAGA people out there that just want to destroy the country, that we're against a democracy, which in a way we are. We're for a republic, not a democracy. But that's beside the point. All of these things that they have been saying, Russiagate, all of this.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Joe Biden is clean. There's no, he's the cleanest clean guy. Federman is completely healthy and ready to serve. This is incredible coming from these people. And they wonder why conspiracy theories bubble up. Well, because somebody thinks something's wrong. And let me use the left or the right doing something. wrong that causes conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 00:32:43 The 9-11 commission. Excusing what was his name that came out with the underpass, Sandy Berger, who went into the National Archives. Now, think of this, with what we've just gone through with Donald Trump. Sandy Berger goes in, asks for the presidential archives for George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton opens them up. It's about Saudi Arabia, something about relationships. We don't really know any more than that.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Puts it in his underpants, leaves, goes across the street, destroys a few by the time the National Archives run out to catch him and get the rest of the, and he's only lost his security clearance for a year. You want to know why there's a conspiracy theory around the... 9-11? Because you didn't explain that. You didn't come clean and explain that. And so people fill in the blanks. When something doesn't make sense, they try to make sense of it. And anyone who is giving them lines of bull crap and just doesn't say what we said earlier this morning, we don't know what happened. But here are some questions that need to be answered. those people are not furthering conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Those people who ask questions are the ones that create the conspiracy, are the ones who create the conspiracy theory look at people like us and say, they're even questioning this. How could they possibly question this? We told you what it was. Okay, show us, just show us the tape. Just show us the tape of the guy getting in. That would help.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Show us, explain to us why he downloaded all of those posts, these crazy posts. Why did he post them all in one day? Can you explain that? And that's fine if he did. Maybe he did it that way. But that seems weird. Something that would be notable. I mean, look, I think he is insane and I think he has a massive drug problem.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And so that would explain. there's the number one thing. Did you know that he was in the hospital and not jail? I didn't know, no. Did you? No. Yeah, neither did I. Neither did I till this morning.
Starting point is 00:35:19 He's in the hospital. Well, okay, was he hurt or is that a psychiatric hospital? Because that's some important information. Where's the answer on that? Right now, the only goal is to make sure that Republicans are blamed for this. So that votes can be cast in the right direction. Well, here's the thing. I think this makes people even more determined to vote.
Starting point is 00:35:49 You must end this madness. It has to end. It has to end. And the first step is voting on Tuesday. And not just forget about just the national politics. Look at your local politics. I told my family the other day, for the first time in my life, Republican lever all the way down. I've never done that.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Never have I done that all the way down. Well, you mean you've never voted like straight party ticket? Just hitting the lever that does all of them, basically. Yeah. And I tell you, we need people in our states. We have a chance of having, I think, 40 states or 37 states that would be. all Republican, Republican governor, Republican, it's like in the 20s that it would be Republican House and Senate. So the legislature and everybody involved would be a Republican. That will stop the
Starting point is 00:36:51 nonsense in Washington. States have the power to do it. And I'm thrilled to see that people are acting locally. All right, back in a minute. Thank you, Pat. The mysterious traveler from Transylvania. would only agree to meet at night. He was looking at some castle. He said the bigger, the better. But just like it was with everyone else, the Biden economy was bleeding him dry. What I need, he said in a strange Transylvanian accent
Starting point is 00:37:32 that was exactly the same as his Russian accent. What I need is real estate, the real estate agent that maybe I could, trust. But far and wide, there were no really good agents who could meet his needs. He found a snot-nosed kid who'd work part-time as a short-order cook at a Burger King. No good. A soccer mom with a haircut that said, I want to see your manager, manager, even worse. Finally, he got in touch with real estate agents, I trust.com. I think you know the rest of the story, don't you? you don't?
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Starting point is 00:38:53 We're going to talk a little bit more about the Nancy Pelosi and Paul Pelosi situation here in just a minute with a guy who has been working all weekend just to get to the facts. He lives in the area. He was called at one point, Time Magazine's, I think, environmentalist of the year, right? and was loved on the left until they went crazy. And he got out and said, yeah, no, not to saying that he's a conservative, he's just a truth teller. So he's been looking into this and he'll be joining us with the latest here in just about 10 minutes. And, you know, when you have, I mean, just the news, put out something a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:39:47 The seven things that the media told you were conspiracy theories or lies that turns out, no, not so much. The Hunter Biden laptop. The origins of COVID-19. It's pretty well accepted now, widely accepted, that it probably came from the lab. You couldn't even ask that. You were a conspiracy theorist. The vaccines.
Starting point is 00:40:14 if you even questioned if there was anything. California was telling doctors, if you spread this misinformation, you could be subject to discipline and lose your medical license. New data shows, not so much, not so much. January 6, Nancy Pelosi,
Starting point is 00:40:36 calling in the National Guard. They tried to make it look like, you know, anybody who said, wait, President Trump offered the National Guard, Guard days ahead. Uh, yeah. Yeah, that's a lie. Counter-narrative, conspiracy theory, disinformation, mal-information.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Looks like, uh, it was true. FBI intelligence warning, January 6 protesters might violently storm the Capitol. Emailed the night before the riot to the Senate majority leader, Chuck Schumer. You've got more. The mistreatment of January 6 defendants, the irregularities in the 2020 election, the Critical race theory in school. That's just white people. That's racist to even say that.
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Starting point is 00:43:30 After reading all of the crazy things... things that the guy who took a hammer to Paul Pelosi had written just recently. And I saw how twisted this guy was. I was surprised to find out that he followed me on Facebook, apparently. I don't know it. I haven't seen it, but it's been reported that he was a fan of mine. Really? Is it the pro-Jewish stance?
Starting point is 00:44:01 Or what? What exactly is it this guy supposedly loved about this show? I have to tell you, what's happening to our country is just more division, and it's got to stop. I told you on Friday, if this guy is a lefty or a righty, he should go to prison, get the full force of the law, no matter who he is, what he is. but there's a chance he's oh I don't know crazy now we've had somebody else that was crazy
Starting point is 00:44:38 that tried to kill a politician his name was John Hinkley did we blame it on Jody Foster movies no there are too many things that just seem wrong I think this story is
Starting point is 00:44:53 easy to explain he's a nut job who used to believe he was Jesus for a while. He went even more crazy and he tried to kill Nancy Pelosi, not Paul Pelosi. But what is the truth? Who do you trust to tell you the truth? Michael Schellenberger is with us. He is the Environmental Progress founder and president. I know. Sounds like something you're not into, but you should be. Michael Schellenberger is a guy who was a hero of the left until they started just taking things out of context and twisting them about global warming.
Starting point is 00:45:36 He fell off that, gee, we love you pedestal quite quickly. He lives in San Francisco. He has written the book San Francisco, and he has spent the weekend looking into this story. We join Michael Schellenberger in 60 seconds. It's Halloween. deep down in the filthy gutter where the rain and the leaves go down to die beneath the city. There, lurks an evil clown. Just waiting for the day that you pass by a little too closely to his lair, he laughs a throaty, evil little laugh and dances around in delight every time he thinks about what he's going to do when, not if, when,
Starting point is 00:46:27 He catches you on some dark and rainy day. Of course, that's just what he does with most of his time. The rest of his time is pretty boring, really. You know, he takes off his makeup. Hey, he puts his pants on just like everybody else. He goes shopping a lot. Ever since he got a wallet full of cash from the last guy, he tried to drag into the sewer,
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Starting point is 00:47:25 Michael, how are you, sir? Great, good to be back, Glenn. Yeah, thank you so much for all your hard work on this. Well, thank you for having me on. I'm excited to talk about it. Okay, so tell me what you have found. What's true? What's not true?
Starting point is 00:47:41 That this is somebody who, according to multiple witnesses, including the mother of his children, was struggling with mental illness for over a decade. We know he was homeless for a while. We know there was extensive drug use. You know, we mental illness, serious mental illness like schizophrenia and bipolar disorder are pretty rare, but we do see a lot of drug-induced mental illness, and particularly from methamphetamine use, but certainly other drugs overtosis, which is, of course, the classic, you know, insanity of not being able to tell the difference between reality and your imagination. And so what's obvious here is that the alleged suspect in the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband was in the grip of psychosophobic. And political ideology is just what you said.
Starting point is 00:48:35 It's the equivalent of blaming Martin Scorsese for making the movie taxi driver on John Hinkley Jr.'s attack on Ronald Reagan. It's the crazy ideas expressed in the blog posts of the alleged attacker of Pelosi are themselves symptoms of the underlying psychosis. It's incorrect to point to them as the cause. So I heard this morning that he is in the hospital or was this weekend. Were those for injuries or is he in a psych ward? I don't know. It would be both. You know, I think if he's, you know, he wouldn't be hospitalized long term if he's in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:49:19 He'll be held. He'll be diagnosed by a psychiatrist. And we'll find out soon. I mean, I think that the good news is that we, the truth gets out. It was obvious to me because, of course, I'm very close to this. I wrote a whole book about this came out last year. It was obvious to me as soon as I heard about who he was and started talking to his neighbors and his family members that this was somebody that was unwell and this was a result of a sickness. I was disturbed by how quickly, even so-called mainstream
Starting point is 00:49:51 journalists were to basically go and blame conservatives, blame Republicans, blame Trump. You know, if somebody were to be like, I read Michael Schellenberger's book, and that's why I committed this crime, it would be inappropriate to blame me for that crime. And I think everybody knows that, but in this toxic political environment, I think it's important to remind people of that. We never blamed Bernie Sanders ever. In fact, we were clear on day one that it wasn't Bernie Sanders' fault that one of his supporters went and tried to kill all the Republicans in Congress. It's ridiculous. Of course. Yeah, I mean, I was sorry to see it. I mean, basically I had one episode in particular. There's a reporter who supposedly like focused on disinformation at NBC News who came out and he tweeted at my reporting and said, oh, my reporting had been debunked because there's all these blog posts showing that the suspect and the attack had written crazy things, including some right-wing things, but also. things about fairies and demons.
Starting point is 00:51:01 And I thought very disturbing because I have a hard time believing that that journalist didn't know that what was driving the suspect was mental illness or psychosis. It really appeared that he was deliberately misleading people in order to engage in partisan political behavior just 10 days before an election. And it's not just on Twitter. I mean, if you watch Meet the Press yesterday, Chuck Todd's program on NBC, the whole program was basically dedicated to this topic. And at no point in any of the program did they even discuss the fact that the suspect was clearly in a psychotic state, suffering from delusions under long-term drug use. Instead, Chuck Todd made the whole show about political radicalization and ideas.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And I just think that's terrible reporting. I think it's very partisan. I won't speculate as to the motives of the jury. journalists, but it's either bad journalism or it's politics. Is it worse that they did that or that when Kavanaugh, the guy from California came to kill Kavanaugh, they didn't even report it on any of the Sunday morning shows? Well, I mean, that's the other thing. And I wrote a post about this yesterday, Glenn, and you're absolutely right. I mean, it's disturbing. I didn't really, I saw when the Kavanaugh assassination
Starting point is 00:52:21 happened, of course, I paid attention to it. But I'll say this, there are many progressive and liberal people in my life who still do not know that there was a serious assassination plot against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, because it was not covered in anything close to this. So just as you said, three days after that assassination plot was revealed, none of the Sunday talk shows wrote about it. The New York Times buried the story on page A20. The Pelosi assassination, alleged assassination attempt was on the front page of New York Times
Starting point is 00:52:53 two days in a row. you know, and I'll tell you the other thing about it is that the suspect in the Kavanaugh killing was clearly motivated by his pro-choice and his pro-gun control views, and his own lawyers last week said that he was mentally fit to stand trial. In other words, it appears, and again, there's still more information to come, and I don't want to get ahead of it, but it appears as though the suspect in the Kavanaugh plot was genuinely motivated by political fanaticism, not by mental illness, whereas in the Pelosi case, he clearly was driven by psychosis, mental illness, drug-induced, or underlying, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:36 But the media base did not, and covered the Pelosi plot attempt as though it were driven by political fanaticism rather than by psychosis. Really is incredible. You are from the area, Michael, and you were down there, right? These are, some of these interviews we've seen, you were there, right? Is that, is that accurate? I was. I was. I mean, I think it's, you know, I'm a journalist at heart, and so it's not that far from my house. And I went down there, and I interviewed all the neighbors. I mean, I'll tell you a couple of shocking things.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I won't name names, but I was not impressed by the reporting of the other journalists. Good journalism is that you go and knock on all the doors, and you interview as many people as you can. I was the only one doing that. There was a lot. There's a lot. And it's also the partisanship and the laziness are related, because if you have the idea that this was, you know, a Trump supporter who went after Pelosi, then you don't want to go and get to the bottom of the other stuff. You don't want to go do those interviews. You want to stick with your little story. So that was, that was part of it. And then, you know, like, there's just, it's a really, you know, when you get into it, Glenn, as you might imagine, it's a tragic story. I mean, it's his two kids is in child molestation. She was, you know, he's. herself as something, I think she probably has a personality disorder and also long-term drug use. The kids are in that house. They apparently weren't going to school. I mean, this is a real, you know, it's basically a symptom of exactly the problems I described in San Francisco, which is that we've stopped enforcing basic laws. And when you stop enforcing laws against people that are
Starting point is 00:55:27 suffering mental illness or addicted to hard drugs, they don't get the help they need. And I think that's part of the lesson here is that this tragedy could have been averted if we enforced basic laws and mandated drug treatment and psychiatric care for the people who need it. You know, it's not that every time you arrest somebody for breaking a law that they have to go to prison or they have to be punished, certainly some people do, but other people are just sick. And I think what we'll discover as time goes on is that the suspect in the Pelosi attack was somebody who was very ill and needed to get treatment. mandated many, many years ago, but didn't get it because we're in the grip of, frankly,
Starting point is 00:56:07 some pretty radical left political ideas. Did you see the op-ed by, gosh, who was it? Shoot. Lost his name. The guy who just wrote this weekend about the op-ed about Tom Cotton at the New York Times and how, yeah, he's an op-ed. columnist and he even didn't say anything about it. He said, because we were afraid to. When you said a minute ago that, you know, they don't want to find it. How many are afraid
Starting point is 00:56:46 to do their job in journalism? Well, I was afraid. I mean, I think there's a lot of, you know, my story. I mean, I came from the radical left. I consider myself a moderate. I'm politically independent. But yeah, I mean, I was afraid on everything. And, you know, part of the you worry about losing your friends, you worry about upsetting your family, you worry about no longer being able to make a living. And, you know, what you're describing as a column by Washington Post reporter Eric Wemple, who writes a media column. And he basically, to his credit, there was an ambivalent reaction to it, interestingly enough, but basically to his credit, he came out and said it was wrong for the New York Times to fire its op-ed page editor,
Starting point is 00:57:26 who ran, of course, this op-ed by Senator Cotton arguing for the use of the of the National Guard and U.S. troops to put down the riots. Well, he was not only did the New York Times, because of the outrage by its woke journalist staff, they basically denounce the op-ed. They fired the op-ed page editor. Everybody watched this happen and knew it was wrong. And, you know, so to his credit, whatever it was, like two years ago now, this columnist of the Washington posted that that was wrong. You know, I think it's good that. you know, it's better late than ever, and he's one of the first people to say it. But yeah, I mean, it's almost a, it's a kind of, yeah, it's social fear.
Starting point is 00:58:10 You're worried about your friends and your family, but it's also a financial fear. Like, am I getting it fired from my job? You know, this is really serious stuff. And I think that the partisanship, and you always emphasize this, I think it's so important, you know, we need to allow disagreement in our society. We need to appreciate and reward it. I always kind of, I'm always shocked by how many people, instead of being like, oh, I disagree with you, they're like, you should stop saying that. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Right. Right. Right. We're with Michael Schellenberger. We're going to get some more facts on, I've just got a few questions on just the facts on what's true, what's not true. And then I also want to talk to him about this push by the Democrats to nationalize our gas and oil. Hello, Venezuela. We'll go there in 60 seconds. Tracy wrote in about his experience with Relief Factory, he said, You know, the first time I encountered the evil clown, I just ran away and everything was fine. I was pretty sure he grabbed my wallet, so that sucked.
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Starting point is 01:00:03 Relief Factor, 800, the number four relief, 800, the number four relief. Get the 1995, three-week quick start, develop for you at Relieffactor.com. 10 seconds, station ID. So I think, Michael, because you have experience in your family with schizophrenia, I think it was your aunt. Yes. Yes. So you've seen it firsthand. Well, yeah, I mean, it's interesting.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Of course, you know, when you're a child, you know, so your parents have to explain to you what that, what's going on. And it is a little scary. Of course, it helps to have your parents start to kind of talk you through it. But yeah, she thought that the president of the United States, I think at the time it was Ford or, yeah, I think it was Ford and Nixon, that they were communicating with her directly to the television set. You know, so I think that there's a reaction.
Starting point is 01:01:07 that people have to this case where they go, okay, maybe he was psychotic, but there's all these terrible conspiracy theories out there, and those need to stop. Well, no. First of all, there's, like, we have freedom of speech, and that means that we actually let people have conspiracy theories. We let people believe all sorts of things. That's a point of a free society. So the idea that we're going to get rid of certain ideas is a very bad road to go down. But the more, the other thing is just that psychotic people will always find some justification for their behaviors, that's different than suggesting that those are the motivations. I do think this is something that people can get, but they have to think about it for a minute,
Starting point is 01:01:51 which is that, and we know this is true for everybody, right? It's that, like, you have a motivation to do something, but you might give a different reason for why you did it. Well, people that are psychotic, they give crazier reasons often, but in many cases, like I look at this case and I suspect, Glenn, that what we'll discover is that this is somebody who was, you know, he's lost. He lost his wife and kids. He wasn't able to hold down a good job. He was using heavy drugs. His motivation was probably to somehow make his life better. As crazy as that sound to be a hero or something like that, he had some story in his head about how he was going to become a hero for, this is how often these guys think by making its attack. And that's ultimately. what was driving it, not like, you know, not some political radicalization. So I, but I, there are some, there are few things about the story that I don't know if they're true or not. I, you know, I look at these things. And the reason why we have
Starting point is 01:02:52 a plethora of conspiracy theories is because we no longer trust the media, we no longer trust the government to tell us anything close to the truth. And then there are these things that just kind of hang out in the air and nobody explains them and it doesn't fit in with the with the storyline that the media's is going for first of all does that make sense to you you think that's right yeah sure I mean look here's here you know the media they're they're partisan now right and maybe it's maybe they've always been although I do think it there's no doubt that it's gotten worse yeah much worse so when this happened they rushed to make this a story about why you should not vote for Republicans.
Starting point is 01:03:37 I mean, it's just sort of tragic. So I just want to check some things off of a list and see if you've looked into them or if you think they're valid questions. And then I also want to talk to you about the nationalization of our oil and gas. Boy, that sounds like a really bad idea. We'll continue with Michael Schellenberger here in just a minute. The Glenn Back Program. You thought he was dead?
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Starting point is 01:05:56 I just want to tick off a couple of things here with you if you don't mind. I'd like to just ask you a few things. If you think these things are material at all, if there's reason to look into some of these things. For instance, it doesn't bother me that, you know, they first said they were in their underpants and then later said that they weren't in their underpants. Does it matter to the story, do you think?
Starting point is 01:06:27 Well, we just don't know. We've got to wait until the investigation is complete and we're in a court hearing. So, okay, but how do we get that answer if they're, okay, well, just leave it at that. Is it, is any of this stuff with his, you know, his, I guess his website, being updated and switched over into his name here recently, and then everything being posted on the 24th, but made to look like it was posted over a long period of time. Does that, is there anything to that?
Starting point is 01:07:10 Does that bother you? I just don't think we know yet. I mean, I think we're going to, I think we have to have some confidence that we'll find out, and I think it'll be hard for there to be. I think there's concerns about a kind of conspiracy by law enforcement or the district attorney, and that's just very hard to pull off when there's going to be a lot of evidence that both the defense and the prosecutors are going to be demanding.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Is there, does it bother you that somehow or another there was, like, the security was turned off? I mean, this is, would you say this is a capital police failure or secret service? I mean, she's number three in line, and I know they have serious United States. States government security. Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, here's the thing you have to keep in mind is that, you know, a homeless mentally ill guy physically attacked Governor Gavin Newsom of California.
Starting point is 01:08:08 You know, as you mentioned, January 6th, there's a capital police failure. So, you know, security is often not that good. And, you know, honestly, I've seen guys on methamphetamine do crazy, amazing things. So I wouldn't be surprised if he got through security. Okay, so let me take you to the other story that I don't think people are talking enough about. And that is the idea that the Democrats are talking about nationalizing and urging the president to nationalize oil and gas. And I think this could become popular quickly and it's extraordinarily dangerous. Well, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:08:51 I documented is that a former Obama advisor and somebody who is known as being a moderate named Jason Bordoff at a conference last week floated the idea of nationalizing oil companies. Now, he then later said, oh, I didn't explicitly say nationalizing, but what he said is that the government should, quote, unquote, strand assets. That's a little bit of jargon for basically make oil company assets worthless so that the government, then can buy them at a low price or take control of them. It's not good, and there is a long history of it. And they justify it as saying, well, these things are done during wartime. But, yeah, I mean, the record of nationalizing oil companies like the way Venezuela and other countries have done it is very scary. It's terrible for the economy and, frankly, a direct threat to, you know, private property rules.
Starting point is 01:09:48 So it is something that we should be concerned about. So what are the odds of this happening, do you think? Well, I think it'll depend on what happens in the midterms. I mean, I think the thing you have to keep in mind is that there was a big poll that came out that showed that I think 64% of the public does blame Biden for high oil prices. I think there's been an effort by Democrats to somehow say, oh, Biden's not responsible for it, even if he goes and begs the Saudis and the Venezuelans to produce more oil, even as he releases oil from our Strategic Petroleum Reserve in an effort to reduce prices. So, look, I think that after this, I believe that the Republicans are going to take the House, and they may very well take the Senate. And after that, the Democrats are going to have to moderate because they've just gone so crazy to the radical left over the last two years or longer. I think they're going to have to moderate because I just think it's not viable to take on all these very extreme positions.
Starting point is 01:10:42 And do you think the radical left? because I mean I I I fear the left is actually got them by the throat and you know that they have all the strings of the street protests and the violence and are they going to let the left and right moderate? Yeah I mean look the radical left is going to be the radical left and they're going to be demanding those things but at the same time there's people in Democratic Party that want to win and so you saw Biden in very quickly say that we should fund the police, not defund the police because they knew it was
Starting point is 01:11:20 a complete political disaster, all this anti-police rhetoric. So yeah, at some point, it's basically a contest within the Democratic Party between people that want to win and want power and the people that are, you know, fanatics. And there's always going to be fanatics, but there's also people that want to remain politically viable. Michael, does it appear to you at all that there are some in Washington that appear to be itching for a war. You know, the streets are on fire in Europe because the people are standing up saying, okay, this is nuts. And if this means that we're going to war, we're getting out of NATO.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Things are really, really shaky. And, you know, the two countries with the most weapons both seem to have an itchy trigger finger or a spasmodic eye. I mean, everybody should be concerned when, you know, two nuclear-armed countries are fighting a proxy war in Ukraine. I'm not sure what we can do about it. You know, obviously, I think everybody wants to see peace. We also don't want to see powers like Russia and China just go invade other countries. And so that's always been a problem.
Starting point is 01:12:39 But, yeah, I mean, look, I think we're, civilization is in crisis. and we need to affirm the fact that we have this beautiful liberal democracy. We have a mixed economy that's market capitalism, and we also have some entitlements, and we have a role for government, and we need to get back to some basics, some basic moderate principles. You know, the United States is we're still blessed. We still have abundant energy. We have a country that assimilates immigrants,
Starting point is 01:13:08 and we've just gotten some extremes that have pushed the country into really, dangerous directions that I think we need some transcendent moral leadership at this point. It's a little terrifying to me to hear them talk about, you know, nationalizing gas and oil, that that was the end of Venezuela. They also have plenty of oil and natural resources that they could exploit. And they're just not because government is not a good operator. That's right. And the government has, you know, look, the government, people always say, well, what is the government's role? I mean, look, the government decides how many oil and gas. permits on public lands and offshore water to give oil companies. Biden has done fewer,
Starting point is 01:13:49 at least less land and less offshore water than any president since World War II. There is a he is waging a war on the oil and gas industry and oil and gas are the fuels of modern civilization. It's very disturbing. So I think we need to, you know, I think there will be a big change after the election because I think they're going to, I think the Democrats, it's going to become clear that they've just become too extreme. I don't, I mean, wokeism the radical wokeism that we're seeing is genuinely a threat to civilization. At the same time, the backlash against it, the pushing of trans ideology on the kids, the climate extremism, the war on oil and gas, you know, the politicization of mental illness.
Starting point is 01:14:33 People are sick of it, and I think we want to come together as a country around some basic principles of civilization, which at the end of the day are cheap energy, law and order, and meritocracy. If you don't have those things, you don't have a civilization. Michael, thank you so much. Best to you. Clint, keep safe. Always a pleasure. Thank you. Bye-bye. Michael Schellenberger, who I just think is, he was, wasn't he on our first climate special at CNN? Gosh, was he? I don't even remember. I think he was. I think he was. He was the Time magazine environmentalist, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:09 you know of the decade or the world or whatever and they loved him at the time he wound up doing I thought the first time I became aware of Michael was his work working as an environmentalist to saying but you know hey nuclear power is something we should probably consider here if we're serious about this but yeah I mean it's amazing and you know if you don't if you don't look follow him on on substack he's got a great substack where he writes about this stuff oh he's really good really really good and really really
Starting point is 01:15:39 in depth. You know, someone who actually bothered to take his weekend to go down there and talk to the people around this home to know what was going on. We have, you know, newspapers with multi-million dollar budgets that pay reporters who just went through his Facebook and looked for things
Starting point is 01:15:57 on the right and they were just reporting those where Michael, who actually went down. I don't even know if they did that because it was taken, it was taken off so they just reported what whatever was given to them. Exactly. There's so much The laziness he hit on earlier is so key in reporting right now because, you know, Twitter is good for a lot of things. But one of the things it's bad for is it just gives reporters a database that they can just search and look for tweets about the topic that they're talking about.
Starting point is 01:16:22 This is why you always say you hear these stories and then they're constantly peppered with stuff like one Twitter user said. What's that? Who the hell cares what one Twitter user said? I know. Why would that be at all relevant to anyone's understanding of a story? Right. Right. But it's the nice, easy, lazy way to do.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Journalism, unlike what Michael had to do is actually walk through a neighborhood, talk to people, knock on doors, try to understand the big picture rather than just the one that they want to push forward. So I, kudos to him. And his substack is well worth your time. We have somebody else who worked all weekend on a couple of stories. And one of them is what happened in Nancy Pelosi's house. We're going to talk to him coming up at the top of the hour, stand by. You know, every. Why are you laughing? No, I just... It's Halloween, I forgot. These are frightening... Every time you start one of these, I forget that it's Halloween, and then it reminds me with the scary music.
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Starting point is 01:18:54 There is something that we haven't talked about with the elections that are very, very positive. Daniel Horowitz points it out. He's got a story on the blaze.com right now. The coming state legislative tsunami will Republicans capitalize on it. And what he talks about is that there is, they're almost guaranteed to have 30 governorships, the GOP, chance of collecting 35 to 37 if it's a tsunami. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:44 By winning the governorships in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Kansas, they automatically earn four more trifectas where they have, you know, total control of the government. which is fantastic, really, truly fantastic, because that's what's going to be able to shut down the federal government is if these states start banning together. And we have told you for the last couple of years, the only way to really stop this is locally. If everybody goes out and votes, you could have that done. That would give them 31 states where they can get legislation enacted into law. without democratic obstacles. 31 states.
Starting point is 01:20:34 Federalism. Yeah. Working. Have you ever wondered why federalism is called federalism when it actually means localism? That's a good point. Federalism. No, that's not the right word for it. I mean, technically it is.
Starting point is 01:20:49 It is. Yes. It kind of does have a little bit of a weird back and forth there. But yeah, it's a big deal. I think one of the things I've been thinking about about lately when it comes to these elections is it's important for people to realize it's the first time you've been able to hold your governor responsible for what happened it is during COVID. Yep. And that means on the good side and the bad side. Like I think Rhonda Santis is reaping the benefits of that, right?
Starting point is 01:21:14 He's going to probably win this race by high single digits, low double digits, which is an amazing win in a in a group of state. Yeah, didn't he win by like 0.3 or 0.4? Yeah. Last time. So this would be a big deal. and the same I think should happen in, you know, states like Michigan. I think you're seeing signs of a potential upset there, which would be jaw-dropping to where we saw Gretchen Whitmer not that long ago
Starting point is 01:21:37 as one of the rising stars of the Democratic Party. Andrew Cuomo was the most popular governor in America at one point, and now he's long gone as well. So I think we do complain often about Republicans in Washington correctly so. But we should also step. back and think about the considerably better job governors in each state did during all of this. Most of them did a pretty good job trying to walk the lines. We weren't always happy with, you know, with our state's governor.
Starting point is 01:22:10 And at the beginning, you understood it. I forgive them all for it the very beginning. There's some grace, I think, to be allowed in the early moments. But generally speaking, I think, I mean, you know, look, I went out to dinner inside, indoor dining on May 4th. 1st 2020. I've said that to friends who live in blue states and their jaw drops to the crown. Yeah. You were indoor dining on May 1st, 2020. Yes. Some people still won't go out. Yeah. I mean, it's become a psychosis. Yeah, it really has. Um, all right. We'll have more on the election and a couple of very important stories when we come back. The Glenn Back program.
Starting point is 01:22:49 We have quite an hour lined up for you. Um, we're going to start with Nancy Pelosi and the Hammer Dude. Uh, we're gonna also talk a little bit about Kanye West, Elon Musk, and the death of journalism in 60 seconds. Wait a what? Wait, what? What is that jangling of chains? Shh, quiet. You probably can't hear it because it's not close enough to the microphone, maybe.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Did you forget the sound effect for your Halloween commercial? Quiet. How'd you hear them? Coming up the stairs, could it be? Yes, it is. And every I'm the ghost of Joe Biden, present and future. What are you doing here? I like ice cream.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Corn Pop was a bad dude, and our economy is strong as hell. Wow. Wow. If I were to get my hands on some gold, the dollar wouldn't be worth a plug nickel, as we used to say when I was a kid. No joke. No joke.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Jill. Wow. Visited from a spooky ghost here on Halloween. Wow. Even a stop clock is right twice a day, I guess. So is the ghost of Joe Biden. Time to get some gold. I'm excited to announce.
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Starting point is 01:26:32 He is the co-host there, and we have several things we want to talk to him about that come about with the death of journalism. Hello, John. How are you? I'm doing well. Happy Halloween. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, you sound like your...
Starting point is 01:26:47 in the mood. Well, I got two young kids. It's a big holiday. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know. Okay, so, John, let's start in San Francisco with Paul Pelosi. What is your take on this? You know, being a guy who, when given a bone, never ever releases it. What is really happening here?
Starting point is 01:27:09 Well, I have a pretty unique take on this one. I think everybody's wrong. as your guest in the last hour said there's no question that the initial left-wing narrative that this was some sort of a MAGA attack is utterly ridiculous. I do not believe in that at all. I am very suspicious of the Where's Nancy comment? And that could have been either not said or been said in a very, very different context. I think that there's a lot of unanswered questions here.
Starting point is 01:27:45 totally get the skepticism. And the skepticism, Glenn, on the right on this story is off the charts. I've been spending most of the last three days on social media interacting with people about this. And there is absolutely no trust at all in the official version of events. And I understand. I mean, there's no question there should the 911 one call should be released, the body cam footage, security footage. I understand why people are asking questions about this official narrative because the official narrative is utterly hilarious. Right, but you do have to, you do have to recognize at some point the media has to, that they're the ones causing the conspiracy theories by not just laying the evidence out.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Glenn, what you just said there is the most important point of any and all this. It's way bigger than what really did or did not happen with Paul Pelosi, and it's a large part of our podcast, The Death of Journalism. And for instance, you know, the election conspiracies, I blame the news media for a large part of that because of the way they treated, you know how I feel about Donald Trump, they treated Trump horrendously for four years. It's not a shock that his supporters don't trust you when you tell them that the election would be fair.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Right. So that's the media's fault, not entirely, but in large part. But let me go back to Pelosi for a second. So we're prefacing my answer to your very good question with, I talk about it. totally get the skepticism, and I totally get, I really get the deep, deep desire people on the right for the left to eat it on this because of their rush to judgment that this was a MAGA guy. But what Elon Musk did with the tweeting of the gay sex gone wrong theory and Denechtes and some other very prominent right wingers jumping all over that, I think was a huge mistake.
Starting point is 01:29:39 because I don't think that theory makes any sense either. Sometimes really strange things happen. Right. Sometimes Jeffrey Epstein really kills himself in prison and somehow is able to do that. Sometimes O.J. Simpson kills his wife and a friend who just happens to be coming by at that moment. I mean, that's the way life is often very weird. Now, I'm not saying, again, we shouldn't be asking questions. We should, especially this close to an election.
Starting point is 01:30:08 but the gay sex gone wrong theory I have huge problems with, and I think that in a way here, conservatives should have focused on debunking the MAGA myth and making this a crime issue and basically turned, you know, to use a sports analogy, a field goal into potentially going for on fourth down and throwing a pick six. I just, I don't like the conservatives are doing what liberals are doing, which is rushing to judgment without all the facts. Right. And that's, I think, very troublesome.
Starting point is 01:30:41 This is a problem on both sides, but the left clearly started this. So let's go through a couple of things that don't make sense to you that you think need to be explained. Well, I think a large part of what's happening on the right is that the fog of war is being interpreted in a way that they want to see the story go. And Glenn, you know, I've become very well known for debunking these types of stories. Right. And I have a rule. I have a rule that if I want an outcome to be the case, I am requiring two or three times as much evidence. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Push me in that direction, right? You have to do it that way because you have to adjust for your own biases. And instead, conservatives or people on the right on this story are going in the other direction. They're taking fragments of stuff that happened in the middle. of the night in the initial report, let's be clear, let's blame the media again, the news media is not just terrible because they're biased. They're terrible when it comes to getting details right, all right? They're just awful. And so there are elements of the original reporting that are still being used, like, for instance, that there was a third person that opened the door,
Starting point is 01:31:56 that the, you know, that Pelosi referred to the suspect as a friend. Well, those, that the suspect may have been totally either naked or his underwear. All those things are now in dispute, and they're important parts of this counter-narrative. Hang on just a second. The one that says he was a friend is, I don't believe, in dispute. I think that's actually on the tape, and I think it actually works to say that the story is as you believe it is,
Starting point is 01:32:28 and as I believe it is, this nut job comes in the house. I think Paul Pelosi was speaking somewhat in code because he said, yes, he's waiting for my wife. He's going to wait for my wife. And he's a friend. And I think he was playing that to the police because they were just going to do regular dispatch. But the lady felt the woman who was at dispatch felt something was really wrong. hit the, I don't know what you call the red alert, but had everybody race to the place because she knew he didn't sound right. That's a good, that's really good analysis there, Glenn.
Starting point is 01:33:13 And so what, you know, and you're using the kind of thought process I use. I go through, okay, what's the official story? And is there a plausible explanation for everything that we have been told? And that is a very plausible explanation because we know this guy was nuts. Okay? Right. We know that. So how, but can you?
Starting point is 01:33:31 you be nuts and take a website that's been there for 15 years and dormant and all of a sudden hop on a few days before and post stuff that looks like you've been posting for a year or so. Right. And it's all crazy stuff. Well, that's a very good question. And I totally agree that that should be investigated fully and there should be high suspicion towards anything that points towards the the MAGA attack theory on this, because that is a situation that very much like I already excoriated the right for,
Starting point is 01:34:10 the left desperately wants to be true. Right. That's always one of the key points in evaluating any of these stories. How much does the media want it to be true? And they desperately, 10 days before an election, want the MAGA attack story to be true. So I guess I'm saying a pox on both, on all sides here.
Starting point is 01:34:31 But, you know, the, I wish, why can't we just wait now? And, and demand that the footage be released, the 9-1-1 call be released.
Starting point is 01:34:42 I mean, this is clearly a very politically charged story just before a major election involving, you know, the husband of Nancy Pelosi. Look, I get,
Starting point is 01:34:53 for conservatives, it's very, very difficult to believe that a straight man could be married to Nancy Pelosi for all these years. Yes. I get it.
Starting point is 01:35:03 But I happen to know people have known Paul Pelosi since his days at Georgetown. I went to Georgetown. My father went there. There's no rumors about him being gay, okay? The story broke. There's nobody coming forward to say they've had gay sex with a suspect. Which you would expect would be the case, right? With all the media coverage of as in created.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Unless Hillary Clinton had them all killed. John, I forgot about that. John, I haven't seen as much, because I have seen a couple posts about this theory you're mentioning. You know, I haven't seen as much coverage on that, so I don't know much about that part of it. But I do think that part of the reason why we don't get the facts on this one right away is the elections eight days away. We can't know the whole story here, which appears to be just a lunatic doing something crazy. we can't have that whole story because they need to use it for eight days. After eight days, we'll have the same thing that we're getting now with, like, let's say, COVID, right?
Starting point is 01:36:10 Where we're getting, oh, well, maybe those lockdowns of the schools weren't such a good idea. We'll get those after the fact. Right. They cannot give us anything other than this was January 6-related, at least for the next eight days. I agree with that totally. And it's frustrating as hell. And we should fight back against that with everything we have. I've already mentioned the Elon Musk thing.
Starting point is 01:36:32 And see, that to me is what put that the gay sex gone wrong theory into the stratosphere and may have caused great damage because obviously Musk is under a microscope right now. And he is being destroyed for having shared a link that I never would have even dreamed of sharing. And here he is, you know, obviously of great prominence and being looked at with great scrutiny. and I think he lost a lot of sway that he may have had previously with people that are in the middle, and now the media is making him into an enemy all over a story that not only was incredible, I don't think it is not true, and I'll be shocked if it turns out that this is anything close to what that theory entailed.
Starting point is 01:37:19 And like I said, there were other prominent right-wing commentators who jumped all over. But, Stu, your point is really well taken. The time continuum with the media is a real issue because we're now living in an age where you've got to get the story out immediately. Social media reacts. We've come up with our own narratives that fit our own priors. And that's the story. And we're sticking to it. The truth doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:37:44 And then by the time it does come out, no one cares anymore. Yeah, exactly right. Okay, hang on just a second. We have John Ziegler on. He has a new podcast, which is, really, really fantastic. It is called The Death of Journalism. You can get it wherever you're, you find your podcast.
Starting point is 01:38:00 We'll talk to him about that. And also Kanye West, a little more on Elon Musk as well. Oh my gosh, it's Halloween. I forgot. I forgot. You ran. Yeah, you ran just as fast as you could to get away from that ghost of Joe Biden. I mean, he was bad enough when you thought he was alive.
Starting point is 01:38:19 But now that you realize he's just, I remember my ghost of a president of future. And he's in your house? You hopped into your car. You turned the key. Nothing. And the car won't start. Can I crank it for you?
Starting point is 01:38:36 You look at the dash and see the check engine light is on. Oh, that's right. You've been meeting to get it fixed ever since it came on a month or so ago. But you haven't wanted to spend the money. Now when you need it most, The car won't even turn on. Didn't you learn anything from last year's holiday commercial? Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Here comes the ghost of Joe Biden to drag you back into the house. And you know what's going to happen. You know it. He's going to smell your hair. And he'll wait until your kids come up and then he'll smell their hair. And then he'll say, whatever you do, no dating until you're 30. Oh, the affordable nationwide plans from CarShield could have saved you from this awful, awful fate.
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Starting point is 01:40:09 John, can we spend a couple of minutes here on James Gordon Meek? Sure. He's the guy who was an ABC journalist working on a book about the disaster in Afghanistan was picked up by somebody in black vans in front of his house back in April. There's witnesses to it. He was thrown into the van. And then he hasn't been seen since. And I was in a meeting yesterday and my guys were like, we're not getting anywhere on this.
Starting point is 01:40:40 And I'm like, oh, I know somebody. I know somebody who won't sleep until he figures this one out. You've done an initial look into this James Gordon Meek disappearance. And what have you found? Well, you know, the reporting on this I find to be very interesting because there have been two major stories, one by Rolling Stone, one by The Daily Beast, which kind of contradict each other. Yes.
Starting point is 01:41:07 And in critical ways. And again, it's hard to determine, all right, what's incompetence by the news media, which I'm always first. That's always where I go first in the modern news media is incompetence. And I frankly think that the Rolling Stone story may have been greatly incompetent. You know, it's a shame, though, Glenn, that we don't have a news outlet that we don't would be, have a special entree into this story. I don't know, like ABC News, where the guy, where the guy worked for years and was very, very
Starting point is 01:41:41 prominent. And, you know, apparently they're scrubbing from news stories that he was the producer for David Mirror, you know, because we're going to pretend that this guy never existed before. Look, this is one of those, this is one of those classic stories that exposes a lot of what we talked about in the previous segment, that the lack of trust. in all institutions. The media, the FBI, all elements of our government is so low,
Starting point is 01:42:08 so catastrophically low, that all bets are off now, and that all questions are relevant, and even sometimes things that end up being conspiracy theories come from very rational people, because that's the world we're now living in, that we no longer have any reason to trust what we're being told,
Starting point is 01:42:27 and that's the really scary part. As far as what really happened here, you know, the theory that this didn't have anything to do with his ABC work, I think makes some sense because there's no evidence that he went to ABC and said, hey, protect me here, because that would make some sense, right? If you're working at ABC and, you know, you're being accused of having classified information related to your work, the first thing you're going to do to protect yourself is go to the giant ABC, use their lawyers, and what have you.
Starting point is 01:42:59 That did not happen. in here. So I wish we had more information. This is a story that I think we absolutely should keep an eye on, but I don't currently have an answer to the question of what really happened. There's too many things here that just are just wrong on it. It needs some answers. And it might be non-nefarious. It might be a guy just, you know, just freaked out and sliven, but there is, it's just too weird. John, before you go, I want to tell you, I listened to your podcast. Who's your co-host?
Starting point is 01:43:34 What's her name? Liz Habib. She's a former news anchor and sports anchor here in Los Angeles and a professor of journalism at Syracuse University. She told the story about losing, was it her parents, her mom? Her mother. Yeah, her mother with COVID. And it was so powerful. And that's where you're beginning, the death of journalism, is on COVID.
Starting point is 01:43:59 and what journalists did and didn't do. Powerful stuff, John. It's right up your alley. Really great podcast. Thanks so much, Glenn. I hope people check out the death of journalism. Appreciate your time. You got it.
Starting point is 01:44:11 John Ziegler, the death of journalism, wherever you get your podcasts. The Glenn BackPro. American financing NMLS 1-8-2334. www.nmlS Consumer Access. Well, you dealt with a ghost of Joe Biden, present and future in your home for about as long as you could take it.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Yeah. It felt like four or five hours. Might have been 10 minutes, but you don't know at this point anymore. Fortunately, what he didn't know is that you made the 10-minute call to American financing days ago. You had gotten a free financial review. Staff, professional, salary-based, didn't comment too much on the old man's voice ranting in the background. I'll touch my leg hair in the pool. Yeah, it's weird.
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Starting point is 01:45:57 We'd like some answers from Facebook. How did the L.A. Times get the list of everybody that he was following on Facebook. How did they get it? The Pelosi attacker? Yeah. And we don't have it because my name apparently is mentioned on that as is Daily Wire, as is Mike Lindell. Jordan Peterson as well was in some of these posts supposedly. So we'd like, well, he was following us.
Starting point is 01:46:28 I don't know if he was following. I don't know who he was. That's what we want to know. And was it really? It was only right wing websites? Really? Really? Quickly point out that it's the Glenn Beck program.
Starting point is 01:46:39 nine million times, I don't even mention in the election coverage. And then when it comes to who a guy who's trying to kill somebody is following, then it's us. At that point, this show becomes us. Oh, the killer was following us. Me and Glenn together. Us. It's the Glenn Beck program with Stu now.
Starting point is 01:46:58 All of a sudden that happens. None of the other times. But when it's a killer, you know what? He was following you, Glenn Beck. He, I think this man adored you. Who knows how he was inspired to do these things? Probably directly from you. Where are the deprivement messages?
Starting point is 01:47:17 We don't know. We haven't seen them yet. Very nervous about this. May I just say, for the record, your honor, this is what my attorney was talking about, his irrational fear and anger over this story. Wow. Wow. It's an executive producer for you. That's how it works.
Starting point is 01:47:42 It is interesting, though, because they do this all the time. And I can understand when they do it if there's a manifesto posted or something that they think is going to inspire someone in the moments after, you know, like their copycat requests, right? Someone to, hey, do this mass killing that I just did type of stuff. You want to pull that stuff down. There's no reason for a story like, for something like this to happen, though. They're pulling down this page.
Starting point is 01:48:07 And we, so the media narrative is he was following all these right wing accounts. He was posting all these political memes on the right so that they can tell everybody that's the reason why this occurred. And then not let anyone on the right, his own accuser, right, someone who was being accused essentially is unable to even fact check it. You're not even able to go on and say, well, wait a minute. Why didn't you say that he was also following the XYZ left wing figure? Right. Like you can't, they don't want you to be able to pick this story. about a part. And so they get to just keep it behind this wall. And someone at Facebook, I assume,
Starting point is 01:48:43 is telling them this stuff. Unless they just happen to be on the guy's page right as it occurred and nailed all this, which is possible. But if so, provide us the evidence of everybody who was on this page. So not just the people that you don't like, like, Glenn, who you shouldn't like for other various reasons. Because your honor, see, see. Uh, right? Let me let me let, shouldn't this just be kept up? Shouldn't this just be available for people to look at themselves. Yeah, I don't. I mean, if they have a bunch of hate stuff, you don't, you could just delete some of the
Starting point is 01:49:13 messages as long as you could make it public to the people they were talking about. You know what I mean? Should it go to conservative media organizations at the least to be able to analyze? Along with the LA Times. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let me tell you that tomorrow we are beginning to live stream the first hour of this podcast and
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Starting point is 01:50:27 All right. Okay. Let me ask you a question. Oh, my gosh, I can't ask him a question. If I ask him this, I know what he's going to say. He's going to go out of his question. mind crazy. Okay, let me just preface it with this. Stu.
Starting point is 01:50:41 Yes. Your honor, I'm trying to work with his madman. It'll all be used as evidence against you. I know. Kanye West. Let's just say he's nuts. Okay, let's just say it. Yes, we should
Starting point is 01:50:57 be saying it. He's nuts. He's nuts. I think the guy has severe bipolar Yeah, again, saying someone's nuts are insane. Doesn't make him a bad guy. It's a mean thing to say. Pelosi's guy is nuts.
Starting point is 01:51:14 Right, nuts. But I think in similar ways, it seems like, you know, similar ways as Kanye West, right? It seems like there's an anti-Semitism string running through both of these people. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it's, like, to say that they're crazy gives this impression that, like, okay, well, they can't tell what's going on in the world. I'm summarizing what I think to be, I see as severe mental illness. Severe. And I think this has occurred.
Starting point is 01:51:39 This has been a situation with Kanye West going back a very long time, long before the red hat ever appeared on his head. In fact, most people on the right all agreed that he was insane for many, many, many years until he put the red hat on and then all of a sudden he was this important cultural icon. To me, he never was. He wasn't a genius back when he was making his music when he was saying George W. Bush doesn't care about black people. He wasn't a genius then.
Starting point is 01:52:04 He's not a genius when he put the red hat on. He's not a genius when he's saying the crap that he's saying today. I think the truth is we should sit back and say, this person has been crazy for a long time because seemingly he has a severe mental illness that is not being treated. Now, he has pointed out that he was diagnosed having a severe mental illness,
Starting point is 01:52:28 but you can't really count it because the doctor was a gym. So I don't know if that is a point. He said it. I'm paraphrasing a bit. But he came out and he says, I go, well, look, it was, you know, I went to a doctor and they did say that I, but, you know, that doctor, and I can't say what group of people that doctor belonged to. We should play the clip because he tries to not say it and then just says it anyway.
Starting point is 01:52:52 It was a Jewish doctor. But again, like, look, there seems to be, though, beyond the severe mental illness that is play, I think, with Kanye. a serious thread of anti-Semitism running through at least black celebrities. Like, I mean, Kyrie Irving has had another incident with severe anti-Semitism that he was criticized by his own team owner. Of course, as you know, he's a guard for the... Brooklyn... Brooklyn...
Starting point is 01:53:27 Knets? Nets. And, I mean, we mentioned the Nick. canon thing, who's not a right wing person at all, but came out with basically the same sort of theories about how Jews control the world and all of these other things that have been associated now with Kanye and Kyrie Irving. And so we've seen this a lot in at least the, I don't know if this runs throughout a larger section of the African American community, but African-American celebrities in particular seem to have a higher than normal percentage of people who believe these things.
Starting point is 01:54:07 And that's something that perhaps we should note. Your Honor, I rest my case. He has just gone after black people, calling them racist. I did not. I want you to know that's not my point of view. You see where it's coming from, Your Honor? Now, I would like to say, I would like to say this about Codier West. Okay.
Starting point is 01:54:31 Okay. Now, do you have it all out of your system? I mean, I could keep going. No, no, no, no, no. Okay, so here's the thing. Did you see, you know, he's lost his bank accounts. He's lost his Adidas account. He lost his bank account before he started saying crazy things, okay?
Starting point is 01:54:47 I mean, well, really, really crazy things. He's always said crazy things, but really, really crazy things. And there had been people that have said, crazy things before. Who was it you just mentioned? Nick Cannon, Gary Irving. Right.
Starting point is 01:55:03 They didn't lose their banking ability. They didn't lose their credit card ability. Nick Cannon has two network shows that are currently Eric. Correct. So we know this isn't a real problem. He's losing his insurance. Now, any of this sound familiar? He's now losing his insurance.
Starting point is 01:55:21 He's losing the ability to do any business with anyone. This weekend, the goodwill said they won't take any of his shoes as donations. You're kidding me. No.
Starting point is 01:55:39 As we strive to maintain the most up-to-date product information on elevated brands available to sell, we are sensitive to current events and take action when designers and brands do not align with our mission and rise values. We currently are removing
Starting point is 01:55:54 the sale of Adidas, Yeezy brand product from all channels, retail stores, boutiques, e-commerce, and all outlets, as well as from our elevated brands tool. Effective immediately, they will be removed and placed in trash bags. So we're going to throw out... No, no, no, they said they were putting them in trash bags. I'll bet you they are holding them, putting them in a warehouse, and when it all blows over, they'll sell them anyway. But, Can I just ask you, when was the last time the goodwill said, you know what, we just can't take stuff from him? I don't think I've ever heard of that before.
Starting point is 01:56:39 I've never heard of that. Never. Now, who are you hurting? Are you hurting Kanye? Are you hurting the people that need shoes? I don't really care whose shoes they were. If I need shoes, I want some shoes. news.
Starting point is 01:56:57 This is ESG, and this is not a message to you. Have you noticed the number of celebrities and people like Kanye that are coming out and saying, not that they're conservative, but that they disagree with what's being shoved down everybody's throat? This is a message to all celebrities. If you step out of line, we will. will destroy you and your brand. There's no place to hide.
Starting point is 01:57:31 This is why your state has got to ban all ESG and ESG scores from the banking, financial, and insurance industry. I always forget it's Halloween until I hear the scary music at the beginning of these commercials. It's not Halloween. I'm about to tell you a real story. Oh, really? Yeah, standing right there. in front of you, standing between you and safety.
Starting point is 01:58:04 The Hellhound. Yeah. You'll see him? No. He was growling his massive teeth. I mean, work maybe a little bit. Every muscle in his body is tensed, ready to jump, ready for the kill. The hackles on his back of his neck stand up as he inches closer and closer.
Starting point is 01:58:24 Looks like this is the end of the line for you, because your back is against the wall. There's no escape, Stu. you're about to be dog chow. Yeah. He really hates people who said bad things about Kanye West. Wait a minute. What are you taking out of your back pocket? No, no, not a bag of rough greens.
Starting point is 01:58:48 And it's not a dog food I'd remind you, Stu. It's a supplement that has everything a dog needs. Be happy and healthy. Why are you feeding it to the... Why are you tossing the whole bag to him? Why am I giving this dog that wants to kill me more nutrients? I don't know. I don't write these things.
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Starting point is 01:59:29 Go to Roughgreens.com slash Beck or call 833 Glenn 33. 333 G-L-E-N-N-33, roughgreens.com slash Beck. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're so glad that you joined us. We are a week away from election. Yeah, tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:00:07 Yeah. It's a big deal. Things looking pretty good. Well, no, not if you read the New York Times. They did release a poll. Yeah. Oddly with registered voters, I mean, look, registered voter polls have some value about six months out from the election.
Starting point is 02:00:22 Yeah, or even longer. You know, they always like, registered voters. You go when you get to poll now, you're likely voters. Right. Because that's what matters. Now, if you're a polling organization that's incapable of doing likely voter screens, maybe there's a reason that you're only going to get registered voters. But likely voter screens are something very common for the New York Times and Sienna. They're both known as very high quality pollsters. Why they would release a poll with registered voters? I have no idea. But it does show bad news for conservatives in every way. Is that true? You have no idea why. No, I have an idea. What's a justifiable? I can't come up with one of those. Pennsylvania has John Federman up five.
Starting point is 02:00:59 Mark Kelly in Arizona up six. Tie in Nevada between Lax Alt and Cortez, Mastow, and then Raphael Warnock up three. So bad news. And I would say all of those are worse than almost every other poll is showing right now. What a surprise. Coming from the New York Times
Starting point is 02:01:14 of registered voters. Now, remember, the New York Times came out with a poll, with the same pollster last week where they were saying all of this news that looked really bad for Democrats. Right. You know, so it's not like they're constantly a partisan pollster. It might actually be the same poll, they just, they just looked at a different. Or they're releasing, a lot of times, this is a trick that pollsters do nowadays to pay for them because they're getting
Starting point is 02:01:40 so expensive is a release, they'll come up with 40 questions at a poll and they'll release five at a time, so they get eight news cycles out of it. I mean, it could be that same thing. It also could be that, you know, this is a correct poll when it comes to registered voters and not likely voters. I mean, I don't think it would be crazy at all for these results to look right around,
Starting point is 02:02:01 right around rational, if you were talking about registered voters. But this is the thing. Likely voters, and these screens almost always benefit Republicans. And at this point, why would you not be applying them? You can tell a lot.
Starting point is 02:02:14 I mean, some people have already voted. Certainly you can make sure that, you know, those people are telling the truth. At least those people definitely are going to vote, they've already voted. There's a lot of ways to be able to look at this and be able to tell who's going to actually have a vote that counts on election day. And to not apply that this close to the election is just bizarre. I don't know what the point of it is. You stop saying that. Well, I mean, I don't know what a rational justifiable point of it is. There is no rational
Starting point is 02:02:40 justifiable. We are. To your point, Glenn, in the Hunter Biden window. Yes. No news that will come out that is bad for Democrats is going to come out until after next Tuesday. Then you'll start hearing all sorts of stuff, but until then, forget about it. The Glenn Back Program.

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