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Episode Date: July 29, 2022

Glenn dives further into his critique of CNN's claim that an "imposter Christianity" consisting of "white Christian nationalists" is plaguing America and reveals the simple belief system it takes to b...e a true American. Bill O'Reilly discusses the week's most important news, including the Left's ongoing mission to change our language. Author Michael Malice shares his thoughts on progressives pushing the woke term "Filipinx" and the latest Big Tech attacks on free speech. Author and executive producer of "The Terminal List" Jack Carr reveals how the Amazon Prime adaption came about and the inspiration behind the Deep State plotline. Recovering investment banker Carol Roth joins to expose the Biden administration's planned recession. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:06 We've got a lot on our plate today. So let's get right to it in 60 seconds. We take on part do of our CNN excoriation. All right. The Tuttle Twins book yesterday. I talked to you about the CNN claims about imposter Christianity. how they're trying to present you with a highly stylized and utterly incorrect view of how separation of church and state was supposed to be understood. And we're going to talk more about it today.
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Starting point is 00:03:54 They write in their holy scriptures. The insurrection of January 6 marked the first time many Americans realize the U.S. is facing a burgeoning white Christian nationalist movement. This movement uses Christian
Starting point is 00:04:10 language to cloak sexism and hostility to black people and non-white immigrants in its quest to create a white Christian America. Amen. Now, I think stop the music. I think we are so screwed up that I want to take this seriously. And, you know, a lot of people say,
Starting point is 00:04:32 there's no way out of this one, but I think there is. And I want to start, if I may, with a hymn. I know, open up your hymn books to hymn 147. Go ahead. Let's play the organ. And everyone, sing along, shall we? No, no, no, not that one.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Sarah, not that one. one no no no do you not have from the hymn book oh everybody sing along send us thine asteroid oh lord from the scriptures according to glian i want to share with you if i might what cnn is saying but CNN is saying that we are just a white Christian America looking, white Christian nationalist movement members looking to get rid of anyone of any other color. Again, Lord, send down your sacred asteroid to destroy us all. They went on yesterday, and we explained all of this. The article said there were three key beliefs associated with the white Christian nationalists,
Starting point is 00:08:07 and belief number one was a belief that the belief, the United States was founded as a Christian nation. It took us an hour to debunk that yesterday, and they're still looking into it. They're like, there's so much information here. I don't know what to do with it. But let's move on. The Constitution, they say, in the article, says nothing about God, the Bible, or the Ten commandments.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Amen. And saying the U.S. was founded as a Christian nation ignores the fact that much of its initial wealth was derived from slave labor. and land stolen from the Native Americans. All right, so let's just get these things down here. It was Christian America that brought oppression. Got it. America's wealth was derived by slave labor.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Okay. And America's land was stolen from the Native Americans. Well, if I may, in no way, in no way does being a Christian nation imply that proponents of such of you reject or ignore the sins of America's past. We were sinners. We are currently even bigger sinners. What we actually want is historical Christian America to be more acutely aware of the failures, and throughout our history, it has been Christian ministers, pastors, and leaders with a correct
Starting point is 00:09:37 understanding of the scriptures at the forefront of fighting against such failures and shortcomings. So let's take them one by one. First, Christian America brought oppression. Well, not really. Do you know about the witch trials over in Europe? Yeah, lasted decades and decades and decades. Here, it was stopped, and it only lasted about 18 months. Why is that? a Christian minister. Yes, pointed out, hey, you're reading the Bible incorrectly. And then increased Mather. He was instrumental in stopping the Salem witch trials.
Starting point is 00:10:19 He's like, I don't think we should use any of this magic stuff. Maybe we should go back and look at, you know, in the, there has to be a witness of three or more, and you have to have actual facts and evidence. You know, like the Bible says. ministers and religious leaders also led the charge against slavery. They were using in the South they were, they were using the Bible to say we can have slaves. Yes, an incorrect understanding of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And there are many examples. So let's go to the second claim. America's wealth was derived from slave labor. Yes, that's right. You know who used to say that a lot? our great fine, fine president, old Jefferson Davis. Yeah, old Jeff used to say that all the time. America's wealth is derived from slave labor.
Starting point is 00:11:21 We can't have an America without slavery. Unfortunately, that's not true. Jeff Davis, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, I think you might have been drinking. The contention that slavery constituted a major source of wealth during the founding of America is entirely erroneous and a little more than a gross regurgitation of old pro-slavery Confederate propaganda. The importation of slaves in North America did not become substantial until more than a century after its initial founding. No more than 5,000 slaves were disembarked in any year until 1720. 27, when it began to substantially increase, it was well after the Christian founding. By the way, does anybody know that if New England would have been considered a country
Starting point is 00:12:19 and not England, New England would have been considered the first country in the world 50 years ahead of everybody else of abolishing slavery? Yeah, New England did that. Abolished slavery 50 years before anyone else. Did anybody know that our pilgrims actually, because of a storm, had a slave ship wash up upon their shores? But the Bible calls that to man stealing. And when they boarded the ship and realized that it was a slave ship, they arrested the captain and the crew. Then they took a collection. I'm passing around the collection plate.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Give until it hurts, pilgrims. And they did. And you know what they use that money for? Ha! It's crazy. They used that money to gain the passage on that ship with a new crew back to Africa. Huh, that's weird. Significantly, slavery impoverished.
Starting point is 00:13:30 areas which practiced it in comparison to those parts of the country, which did not. Let me give you Alex de Tocqueville. He noted that the colonies in which there was no slaves became more populous and more prosperous than those in which slavery flourished. De Tocqueville's observations are confirmed by the facts of economic history. But why care about that? We're so busy redefining history and economics. I don't think we're actually in a recession.
Starting point is 00:14:02 The story of the South is one of stagnation and increasingly falling behind the rest of the nation. Aside from the few owners of large plantations, the people of the South were generally more impoverished than the people in the North. At the time of the Revolutionary War, the South had been the wealthier region by far, but their reliance upon slavery sap the strength out of the region. As economic historians from Harvard and UC, Davis explained when they were sane. From 1774 and 1860, the per annum growth rates for New England, 1.26%, the Middle Atlantic, 1.08% and the South's 0.31%. Hmm. By 1860, the real product
Starting point is 00:14:50 per capita in the South was 40 points behind New England. A Harvard economic study identified that even today there exists a significant negative relationship between past slave use and current economic performance. In fact, all forms of slavery were detrimental to economic development. But CNN, why take it from Harvard? You know, as early as 1793 major figures such as Norr Webster pointed out, in no particular are the deplorable effects of slavery. more visible than in checking the destroying of national industry and productivity. Wherever we turn our eyes to view the comparative effects of freedom and slavery on agriculture, arts, commerce, science, the mind is deeply affected at the astonishing contrast.
Starting point is 00:15:46 To labor solely for the benefit of other man is repugnant to every principle of the human heart. Third, and I love this one, America's land. was stolen from the Native Americans. Well, we may have to open up our hymnals again. As my sermon today to bring CNN out of the fires of hail continues in 60 seconds. Let me talk to you about relief factor.
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Starting point is 00:17:50 10 seconds, station ID. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. So now today we continue with our sermon. We just talked to you a little bit about, you know, the three things that the CNN was pointing out that shows that we just want a resurgence of the Old South. And that we just don't understand America's true history. For instance, the third point was America's land was stolen from Native Americans. ministers and religious communities were at the forefront in treating native tribes with respect and honoring land deals.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Yes, CNN, it's true. The religious pilgrims strictly only occupied land lawfully purchased. This land was bought at a price agreed upon by the native tribes in founding Plymouth in 1620. At the start of King Phillips War in 1675, Plymouth Governor Joshua will win explained, I think I can clearly say that before these present troubles broke out, the English did not possess one foot of land in this colony that was not fairly obtained by honest purchase of the Indian proprietors. Reverend Roger Williams lawfully purchased the land at a price agreed upon by the native tribes in order to found Rhode Island in 1636.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Reverend John Davenport lawfully purchased the land at a price agreed upon by the native tribes in order to found New Haven in 1637. In founding Pennsylvania, and this is an incredible stat, I had never heard before. William Penn, as in Pennsylvania, purchased the land from the Indians. But there was a problem. When they purchased the land from one tribe, the other tribe said, well, but they stole it from us. the actual owners. And so he purchased it again from a second tribe. And then a third tribe came in and said, yeah, but they stole it from us. Parts of Pennsylvania, William Penn, bought three separate times, just to make sure he had secured a clear title from each tribe that claimed it had been stolen
Starting point is 00:20:27 from them by another Indian tribe. Remember the 1888 Wall-Map? of Jamestown versus the Pilgrims. I showed this to you on a couple of TV shows, and I've talked about it on radio. Throughout the Northeast and most of early America, the land was purchased by the colonists. In the South, it was different. But because the land was bought,
Starting point is 00:20:51 the longest lasting treaty in American history between whites and Indians was the treaty between the pilgrims and the Indians. And who broke that treaty? Yes. Yes, the Indians. If you look at that map I showed you, it shows Jamestown is founded on slavery. It becomes an absolute nightmare and everything goes sour from there.
Starting point is 00:21:19 This is the same argument that we had before the Civil War. Were we a country founded in slavery with Jamestown or are we a Christian nation that come from the pilgrims that tried to do the things right. Well, guess which one I think we are? And guess which one I think we should be? White Christian nationalist, they say CNN, belief number two. A belief in a warrior Christ. They write, videos from the January 6th attacks show a chaotic tear gas-soaked scene at the capital
Starting point is 00:21:58 that looks more like a medieval battle. insurrectionists punched police officers used flagpoles as spears and smashed officers' faces against doors while a mob shouted fight for Trump. The attack left five people dead. No, it didn't. Nearly 140 law enforcement officers injured. The incongruity of people carrying Jesus save signs
Starting point is 00:22:21 while joining a mob whose members are pummeling police officers leads to an obvious question. How can white Christian nationalists who claim to follow Jesus, the Prince of? peace, who renounced violence in the Gospels, support violent insurrection. You know, it's crazy. It's crazy. I got an answer to that one.
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Starting point is 00:24:38 insurrectionists punched police officers use flagpoles of spears and smashed officers' faces against doors while a mob chanted, fight for Trump. The attack left, five people dead, no, and nearly 140 enforcement officers injured. The incongruity of people carrying Jesus save signs while joining the mob, whose members are pummeling police officers, lead to an obvious question. How can white Christian nationalist who claim to follow Jesus, the Prince of Peace, who renounced violence in the gospel, support a violent. insurrection. You know, I really have a hard time for, you know, when I listen to people who will deny the gospel, deny Jesus Christ, deny even God, preach to me about what Jesus Christ and the Bible says, but I, I digress. The problem is, they say in the article, that's because they follow a different Jesus than one depicted in the Gospels, says Dumez, who is a professor of
Starting point is 00:25:32 history and gender studies at Calvin University, a Christian school in Michigan. They follow the Jesus depicted in the book of Revelation, the warrior with eyes like flames of fire and a robe dipped in blood, and led armies of heaven on white horses in the final triumphant battle against the forces of the Antichrist. White Christian nationalists have refashioned Jesus into a kick-butt savior who's willing to smite enemies to restore America to a Christian nation by force if necessary. Yeah, nope. That is, by the way, the last line of that is, Dumez and others say, I'd like to know who all the others are, but again, I digress. Okay, we're looking, we're refashioning Jesus into a kickbutt savior who's willing to smite
Starting point is 00:26:20 enemies to restore America to a Christian nation by force. You know, I think, I think the kickbutt Jesus might come and destroy all of us in America for the way we're living. But that's what he will do. He will lead armies, not us. In, in what church, by the way, is anyone hearing? Because remember, CNN said every Christian pastor and every faith leader is now bullied into thinking they have to preach this crap. Does anyone, anywhere, recall a recent sermon where the pastor depicted or a stained glass window where Jesus is dressed up like Rambo with a 50 caliber bullet belt wrapped around his chest? Here's what my faith teaches, and it might be, what your faith teaches something like this. God is a lamb. Jesus is a lamb, but he is also a lion,
Starting point is 00:27:15 and he will roar. We have to follow in his footsteps and love even our enemies if we expect to be on his side. Otherwise, when he roars, we'll be destroyed too. He is not a terrorist. He is not a killer. In fact, because he died for our sins, he did nothing to defend even his own However, he does not require us to be nailed to a cross. That was his job. So we can each of us, all people, I don't care what faith, religion, I don't care what color of skin. I don't care if you're a Republican, Democrat, or independent.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Everyone has a right to defend themselves and their families, but to hate our enemies, even wish ill on them, on those who hate us or may hate us. is not the spirit of Christ. That is the spirit of the world, and that is the spirit of natural man. We cannot fight hatred with hatred. Only love will conquer what we are going through. We have to love truth more than ourselves.
Starting point is 00:28:23 We have to love mercy more than life. Next one, white Christian nationalist belief number three. A belief that there's such a person as a real American. Well, that's right. there is a real American out there. The article says in 2008 presidential election, vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin introduced a new term to the political discourse. She talked about the real America and the pro-America areas of this great nation.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Since then, many conservative political candidates have used the term real Americans to draw contrast between their supporters and their opposition. A such language has been co-opted into a worldview held by not many white Christian nationalists, a nation divided between real Americans and other citizens who don't deserve the same rights, experts on white Christian nationalism say. Again, I'd like to know who the experts are. Okay. First of all, there are real Americans. I mean, let's cut through the bull crap here, because it has nothing to do with Christian faith and doctrine.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Nothing. What CNN is so opposed to here, the term real America, is something that Americans used to see as a complement. It's individual liberty. It is the right to life, liberty, and property, the ability to protect those rights as your own first responder. It's a belief that there is a law of the land and that we are a land of laws and not men. Because of that, no man, no one person is above the law. The real America is an America of freedom. And those freedoms come with responsibilities.
Starting point is 00:30:04 and those freedoms must never be infringed upon by the national government, nor the people with different political beliefs that live in large cities on the coast. Nor can the people in the middle of the country take away the rights from the people who live in the large cities on the coast. This is the only thing required to be an American. your race, your religion, your station in life, your education, where you live, your belief in lower or higher taxes does not make you an American. If you're a Democrat, you can be a real American. If you're a Republican, independent, you can be a real American. The real American believes truly in one thing, and we can disagree on everything else.
Starting point is 00:30:57 you believe that all men are created equal and endowed by a creator with certain inalienable rights, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and governments are instituted among men to protect those rights. That's all you have to believe in. You just have to believe that the government cannot infringe on the Bill of Rights. And there's many more rights than that. but they have the federal government has no way, no right to infringe on those. Because we are supposed to be masters of our own life. We answer to God.
Starting point is 00:31:40 The government answers to us. That's what we, you know, that's why people came here from all over the world. That's why they still come here. There was a rule of law. Have you noticed that all the nations where people are flocking to America for good reasons. They come across the border. They do everything. Why? Because in their nation, their station of life is permanent. You're born in poverty. You live in poverty. You cannot change your station in life. And the government plays games. They pick favorites. That's why they came here. They came here because
Starting point is 00:32:16 they believe they have a chance. Now, America has not always been that place. But the question is, Are we getting better or worse? We should not be trying to abolish this. We should be trying to be better at our mission statement that all men are created equal. See, this is what CNN is hinting at here. They are hinting that, you know, America sucks. And anybody who wants to believe what the founders did is wrong. And if you say you're a real American, what does that even mean?
Starting point is 00:32:53 I just told you. From many one, e pluribus unum. That doesn't make us all the same, which the left is currently trying to make everyone the same. There gets things like the electoral college. They want people in New York in Los Angeles to dictate how people live their lives in places like Idaho or Texas. I don't want Idaho or Texas telling New York or California how to live their life.
Starting point is 00:33:26 what to do with their own governments. That's their choice. They want open borders, as long as those borders don't reach their own cities. I'll talk about that next hour. They want our cities to burn if their demands are not met, as long as those cities aren't their own. Sometimes they are their own, and they don't care. We don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Americans don't believe that. Democrats don't believe that. in power may, Democrats, or I should say Marxists who are posing as Democrats believe that. But Americans don't. The real America is only an America operating under its Constitution and Declaration of Independence. And I'm sure a large majority of Christians agree with the U.S. Constitution. if you don't agree with the Constitution and you want to change the Constitution,
Starting point is 00:34:29 not through the regular constitutional process, because you can amend it. You don't want guns. Amend the Constitution. If you want to go outside of the Constitution, destroy it or change it in any other means, then really by definition you cannot be, not a real American,
Starting point is 00:34:49 you cannot be an American. Because you are calling for things that the American system does not do. There are clear ways to change it if you don't like it or you think it's a mistake. But you don't like those rules. We're just asking for those rules to apply equally to everyone and for those rules to apply. This entire article is nothing more than assault on people of faith, but it's dressed up with words white and nationalism purely to give it a January 6th spin. The next part gives it all away.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Quote, those who want the U.S. to become a Christian nation face a huge obstacle. Most Americans don't subscribe to their vision of America. Well, if their vision of America is what CNN said, I'd be with you. But this is a lie written by experts who are not experts in. theology, who are not experts in history. They are activists and most likely Marxists. The mainstreaming of white Christian nationalism comes from a growing number of Americans who are rejecting organized religion. For the first time in the U.S. last year, membership and communities of worship fell below 50%. Belief in God is an all-time low. Why is that? Is that because of our
Starting point is 00:36:17 white nationalist Christians? Or is it? that because of our society? Is that because of our universities? Is that because, like Woodrow Wilson said, the point of a university is to make a man the most unlike his father as possible? Faith in God and Christianity in general is what's on trial here. As I showed you, over the last two days, this country is a Christian nation. It is what our founders believed. And it is is what led them to create the Constitution and our laws and everything our society is built upon. But it does not mean that it is a government that is Christian. It was built on Christian principles. But it is not a government of Christians. It is a nation that is Christian. The government is neutral and protects
Starting point is 00:37:21 everyone equally. That is why faith in God has to be eroded, because they don't believe that. They have dressed it up as that. But that is not what they actually say and mean.
Starting point is 00:37:37 To them, it all has to come down. And it's the same tactics that have been seen in places like the 1930s in Germany, the Soviet Union, and Mao's China. This is another Marxist attack. And it is easy to debunk. If you want the information that I just gave, it's about 30 pages, nine pages of footnotes. So please don't take it from me. Do your own homework. Click on the hyperlinks on all of the
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Starting point is 00:42:11 It's Americanfinancing.net. All right, Mr. Bill O'Reilly is coming up in just a second with the top stories of the week. Stand by. Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. There's a lot going on this week, huge week. We found out that we have confirmation now that the United States, our government, was working hand in hand and coordinating the silencing of people about COVID online, working with
Starting point is 00:43:47 these giant corporations to curb freedom of speech. We also have 17 now proven incidences where we know that Joe Biden was intimately involved in his son's business. We also had the proof now two consecutive months of contraction of our economy. We are in a recession now officially. And we just got our inflation numbers. Yay! How's that going? What is the biggest story of the week? We'll ask Bill O'Reilly in 60 seconds. First, Megan was in a horrible car accident that left her with shooting pains down her neck and her back. She heard me talking about Relief Factor decided to give it a try, and she said within two days, her pain began to subside. Now, that is, that's highly unusual that it happens in two days, but God bless you. Megan, thank you for trying.
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Starting point is 00:45:45 He's also the author of several. Number one, bestselling books. Killing the Killers is his latest. It is out now, the secret war against terrorists. And he is joining us today. Bill, what is the biggest story of the week? Well, this is no joke, Beck. I'm not being facetious.
Starting point is 00:46:04 It's the, there is no, not kidding. Yeah, there's not a recession. You know, all of this talk about the GPS coming in, the GPS doesn't, it doesn't indicate we're in a recession. It indicates that the diner is two miles away. So the GPS doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:46:20 We're not in a recession. It's no joke. Here's the deal. The deal is that I don't know anything about the economy, and why would I know? Because I don't know anything about anything. I'm president, and the only reason I'm president is that everybody voted against Trump, and that's no joke.
Starting point is 00:46:37 It is crazy, Bill. How many words he has redefined? Yeah. I mean, he's redefining all these words that just disagree with him. It is two quarters of contraction. We have always, always known that. And now he says, no, no, no, because of other things. There's no way we're in a recession.
Starting point is 00:47:01 It doesn't matter, really. It doesn't matter. This, in fact, is not a recession. It's a depression. It's far worse than a recession. Wow. Now, look, how many times have we spoken, two of the smartest guys in the country, me and Stu,
Starting point is 00:47:19 how many times have we said to the Beck audience, he doesn't know what he's doing? He just doesn't know. So right now, at the southern border, five times as many illegal migrants are coming to the United States than happened in the last year of Trump. Yet Biden said, no, we don't have a border problem. No, it's a cure. So, you know, it's almost like a guy. This is one of the things I do want to talk to you about the D.C. mayor calling for the National Guard to indefinitely help with bust in migrants. That's right. They have,
Starting point is 00:47:58 I don't even know, 4,000 of them, and they say Washington is crippled and can't function. How many hundreds of thousands are in Texas now, and they don't want to give us any help? No, and the D.C. mayor, I mean, you know, she's appalled by these migrants actually coming to the nation's capital. but she supports the open border. So I'm not quite sure. But you know what I love? Here's what I love. So my organization, as you and nicely pointed out, on Bill O'Reilly.com, we did, on a daily basis we do, we asked the White House questions.
Starting point is 00:48:44 We send things into their press office. and one of the things we sent in is are you going to do anything about the airlines that they can't get off the ground and under Trump we didn't have this problem but why do we have it now and are you going to do anything about so I'm being in facetious
Starting point is 00:49:08 this is a joke they come back or you we don't have an airline problem those migrant flights take off on time every time I mean they just zip into the air What are you talking about, O'Reilly? You don't have any problem. We get those migraines out of the air. There's no congestion at the airport.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Right, at 2 o'clock in the morning, the airport is clean. They get ironed on the plane. And there's no security. We don't have a security problem. We talk about what's a big story of the week. The big steer, the year and a half, is that the president of the United States is delusional. That's the story. You can make fun of them and you can angst over what he does on a daily basis,
Starting point is 00:50:00 but the only solution to this is to neuter him like a cat. Okay. So in November, if you are voting Democrat, I have a lot of liberal friends. If you're casting a vote for this crew in any way, shape, or form, whether it be local, whether it be state, federal, you are voting against yourself. You're voting to hurt yourself and your family. Do you not understand that? People in the ghettos of Chicago.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Do you not see the dead people in the street? What is wrong with you? So I think now the angst has to turn onto the American people. We know Biden is delusional. he doesn't recession. He'll never believe it. We know the press is corrupt. There's no two sides to that story.
Starting point is 00:51:07 They just ignore what makes the Biden administration look bad. They just won't report it. That's corruption. We know all that. But the American people who continue to vote for progressive Democrats, they're responsible. It's you. Now, I don't want to cause... Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I just want to... I want to change the subject here for a second. I want to ask you about the Jim Jordan revelation. Jim Jordan said yesterday, in exclusive from Fox News, that a new whistleblower has come out and revealed the push by the FBI to pad domestic terrorism data. Now, this is something that I told the American people
Starting point is 00:51:55 about false. six months ago that they had actually, if you looked at the data of white nationalist crime and violence, they were actually going into the prisons and taking the clan members and the white nationalist in prison and they were counting the times that there were fights. Yeah. So now it comes out. Okay, number one. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Wait, wait, wait, wait. Go ahead. Okay, hang on just a second because I want to make sure that because most people I haven't heard this story yet. He also says that the FBI officials are pressuring the agents to reclassify cases as domestic violent extremists, even if the cases don't meet the criteria for such classification. Given the narrative pushed by the Biden administration that domestic violent extremism is the greatest threat surrounding our country, revelation that the FBI may be actually artificially patting domestic terrorism data is scandalous.
Starting point is 00:52:53 These whistleblowers are saying, I can't take what the FBI is doing anymore. These are FBI agents that are saying they're told to take the case that they're working on and find a way to make it a violent white nationalist terrorist activity. Okay. I hadn't heard that. Number one, did Jim Jordan, who announced that he wear a sweatshirt? His attire has been disintegrating here.
Starting point is 00:53:19 At first he had a tie. Now he's kind of in a sweatshirt. I don't know. Next, he'll be in a muscle shirt. But anyway I don't care what he's Is anybody surprised by what you just told everybody? Look, let's just walk through it very methodically.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Merrick Garland, what's the biggest threat to the United States? White, national supremacist terrorism. He said it on the record. Christopher Ray, FBI chief, works for Garland, okay? Has to do what Garland says, or Biden, who doesn't even know where the FBI building is, would appoint another FBI chief
Starting point is 00:53:54 because he could get fired any second. So it comes down to the FBI agents, yeah, yeah, let's gin this up. Yeah, these people in Idaho, they're going to blow up something. I, you know, oh, okay. So it's all true. It's all true.
Starting point is 00:54:10 I did a specialist week on bill o'Reilly.com called Defending America, okay, off killing the killers because that is the ultimate book on terrorism. We're okay internationally. But because of the. open border, it's a growing threat from the jihadists because they can get through easy things in the United States. A Biden administration doesn't, you know, the jihadists are coming in with fentanyl now. They're making a lot of money. And it's just ridiculous. But anyway, I did a whole hour on it.
Starting point is 00:54:48 And it's absolutely true the diversion into, oh, these white supremacists, these are the guy. What are they? I mean, I don't even, do you know any back? I mean, I'm in New York. I don't. I don't know any white supremacists. Do you? No, I don't. No, I don't. And you're up in Idaho and in Texas where I guess they are. Right? Aren't they there? Yeah. There are some, no, there are some white supremacist groups, but they are nowhere near the biggest threat to the country. They are a problem. And as things get worse and worse, I think more and more people will look for somebody who's willing to do something. And unfortunately, history tells us they will look to radicals. And so they could become dangerous, but not the most dangerous in our country. There are problems, and they've been there forever. Let me change the subject here. One more question on one more story I want your comment on before
Starting point is 00:55:47 I take a break. And that is China. China's leader has just said to Biden, With the Pelosi Taiwan trip, those who play with fire will perish. They are saying that they will see this as hostile. This is something highly unusual. Usually our people go over to countries like Taiwan, and then the trip is announced after they leave the country. Okay. Now we can't back down, can we, or should we? This is what I want to see.
Starting point is 00:56:21 I want Pelosi to go over to China, and I want. want one of the Chinese spies in Taiwan, and believe me, they're a legion, to put marijuana oil in her bag, and then she'd be arrested and held, okay, for months. Wouldn't that be good? Right. That'd be a problem. Okay. Yeah. Cudlow said it last night. Cudlow said, look, if Nancy Pelosi's Speaker of the House of Representatives wants to visit a country, and we have business with that country, high-tech business, chip business, and she should go. And if they don't like it in Beijing, they don't like it. But, you know, to power before them, obviously, this is a test. This is what they do, these totalitarians. What Hitler did, it's what Luselini did. They push and
Starting point is 00:57:17 push and see how far and see how scared you are. They're the bullies. So the, okay, the solution to, the solution to me on this was to not announce it until you've left. That way you accomplish what you want and they don't have time to say, don't you dare come. This is just poor. That's the way we always do it. Yeah. But I think we do business as usual. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to cede your point that it would have been better. Pelosi just went over there and brought her husband so she could buy he could buy Taiwanese stocks while we cannot take it but we cannot take a hit by backing out now. No, you can't.
Starting point is 00:58:02 I think that would send the wrong message. And the other message you can't send is that Mr. Pelosi can't rent a car in Taiwan. Okay, I'm back with Bill O'Reilly with a question on a news story that just came out today that I think he's uniquely qualified to Anna and I want to ask him in 60 seconds. First, I wish today when I die. I'd be able to go peacefully knowing that my children have inherited just like I had and just like those like me, a country that will remain free, you know, until Jesus comes in another 10 to 30 years. Anyway, but for that to happen, we have to have our history.
Starting point is 00:58:49 and it has to be locked in solidly with our children. Freedom rests on a knife edge. And the only way that each successive generation can hold on to it and live a free life and live the will and the choices that God gave them is that they have to understand and learn from the past. No joke. Not kidding. This isn't hyperbole.
Starting point is 00:59:18 We stand close, very close, closest in my lifetime to losing everything. So please check out a new book for me. America's history. I need you to look at it. And if you have children, grandchildren, if you live next door to children, if you just want to give free stuff to children, not by pulling up in the sidewalk and saying, hey, kid, want a history book?
Starting point is 00:59:41 But I mean, we have to do everything we can to get true history into their hands. Tuttle Twins Beck has a new history. It's called American History, America's History. You can preview a few free sample of the chapter so you can see for yourself why it's needed. It's crucial in the here and now. It does not center around the dates and the memorization of names. Instead, it takes you through our history and shows you the ideas and the challenges and the mistakes that we made. It is a story. And understanding the story will help you decide what we should be doing in the future. So I want you to go right now to the Tuttle Twins.com. Tuttle Twinsbeck.com. You can get the book and the audio version, America's History, America's History at Tuttle Twinsbeck.com. 10 seconds, station ID. As a former teacher of high school kids, and as a guy who really is a linguist and a guy who uses the language and knows the importance of words,
Starting point is 01:01:09 there is a story that comes out today that the AP style guide is now adopting the LGBTQ2 plus I ideology. And they are, you can no longer use the word. transgender. It's instead a person whose gender identity does not match their sex assigned at birth. They are saying now you have to avoid terms like biological sex, male or female hormones or sex change. And I want to ask you, we are redefining all these words, but more importantly, something like the AP style guide, can you tell me why that's so important to uh... america if they change things what else do they change well look the associated press is a woke liberal organization
Starting point is 01:02:08 everyone with a brain knows that uh... unfortunately it is widely distributed to the smaller newspapers all over the country and people don't know what really the associated press is they just read the headline and if they want to read the article they read it but it comes from point of view the associate of press is not a a news agency anymore in a sense that it looks for the truth or it wants to present what's really happening in this country. Look, I taught high school, as you pointed out, and I felt very sorry for the gay kids and the kids who didn't have a very strong gender identity because
Starting point is 01:02:45 they were bullied and kicked around, and I protected them as much as I could while I was teaching. and I know what a terrible, terrible problem that is, and I think all Americans should understand that we need to protect. All people. All people. Yes, but particularly vulnerable people. And I'm talking about it. You know, I know what you're saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I mean, I just think that kids are so mean. I've got two high school kids. And what happens, they come home and tell me stories, and they're just so. so mean. That's always been that way, but we have to make sure that we are paying attention to everyone and especially the bad cases like it has been in the past for homosexuals. I'm not sure that it is that way anymore. I think it's become cool to be something different. Bill, I'm sorry, we're out of time, but thank you so much for joining us today. Bill O'Reilly. You can find him at Bill O'Reilly.com. Bill O'Reilly.com. Make sure you don't miss.
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Starting point is 01:05:53 enterprises like the own own oner. Next week, I'm going to be speaking at CPAC.
Starting point is 01:06:06 I'm the, well, I thought I was the closing speaker on Saturday, which is the position I really like because everybody's so beat and tired. I just, I can, I can just say whatever I want and let it all fly. And so I was going to be the last speaker. I found out last night. I am now the warm-up act for the last speaker, which is President Donald Trump at CPAC.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Ah. So no one's going to care about anything that you say. Correct. Now I could just get up there and go, and they won't care. As long as you stay on time. Yeah, as long as I stay on time, and they'll all be looking at their watch the whole time going, come out, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. We want to hear Trump. So that is next week, CPAC, Dallas. Let me go to Michael Malice, who I think Abraham Lincoln saw coming a long, long time ago, with Malice toward none. And that makes me a little nervous that he's on the program, but I like him anyway. He is the host of Your Welcome, a great podcast, the author of The Anarchist Handbook,
Starting point is 01:07:12 Michael Malice. Welcome, Michael. How are you? Well, Adrian, it's seeing things coming, if you know what I'm saying. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my. Too soon? Too soon. So, Michael, I just wanted to get your quick comments on, I just want to get your quick comments on, on what happened recently. The Filipinos are quite, quite upset because some woke progressives have decided to change Filipino.
Starting point is 01:07:45 It's much better to call them Philippinex. And apparently they don't like that that much. Well, are we sure you're pronouncing it correctly? I mean, I don't speak Tagalog, so I'm not sure, you know, how, because I was corrected. It's not Latinx. I think it's Latinx. But this is a white people.
Starting point is 01:08:07 This is a white people thing. This is white people. Yes, yes. And then people who are, you know, Asian Pacific ancestry going to college and acting like white people. This is a nonsensical. It's, and it's also there was this attempt to create this AAPL, Asian American Pacific, I don't know what the L stands for, coalition, where you had people like Tammy Duckworth, who I believe is of Asian descent and basically have this lie that Chinese and Japanese and people from India. I'd be from the Philippines and Laos. They're all interchangeable.
Starting point is 01:08:45 They should all vote and act the same. Even though for millennia, they've been at war. And to this day, many of these countries despite each other. You know, I used to live in Brooklyn until I escaped last August. And I was at a dinner party a few years ago. And it turned out everyone was from a different country, their families. So me being me, we went around the table and said, who did our ancestors hate? And someone said, but we didn't say anyone.
Starting point is 01:09:11 And I said, well, who were your neighbors? Come on. No, no, I said, who were your neighbors? And she goes, oh, we didn't hate them. We thought they were dumb. So, but this is just a complete, but this is a complete American university fantasy that people. No, I know. Based on geography are somehow can be, even look at America itself.
Starting point is 01:09:34 You had been north and the south. They were neighbors. They tried to kill each other. So it's really, we have to. laugh, but it's a very cynical and disingenuous attempt to have this kind of intersectionality, which is just completely falling in part of the, it is the most racist thing as well. I mean, when you, when you have a, because it is, it's a group of white people who think they know better and they can be the defenders and say, you know, Filipino is racist.
Starting point is 01:10:06 The Filipinos are like, what? You're going to be called Philippinks from here on out. I mean, there's another more racist. But this is where American imperialism kind of started with McKinley in the Philippines. And Taff, I think, was governor of the Philippines. Progressivism is domesticate imperialism. They ran out of other countries to invade because that became taboo. And now you have to have New York City, L.A. and Washington basically invade and govern
Starting point is 01:10:34 who they regard in America as their inferiors. And it's usually rural whites. And it's also people who aren't following the progressive agenda. And the thing is, it's become so transparent that it just, you know, necessitates eye rolls. And they're just grasping it strong, especially as you've seen with the election of Congresswoman, Flores, who is the first Mexican-born Congresswoman. Yeah. You know, the Hispanics are jumping off this train. They're like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:11:04 I know, I know. You don't mean Hispanics. you mean latinks. By the way, by the way, I wanted to bring something up. These are the headlines from today. Lawsuit alleges CDC colluding with big tech to censor speech. Internal documents, next story. Internal documents reveal CDC worked with big tech to censor COVID-19 speech.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Next one. Twitter accounts suspended for COVID-19 misinformation have increased over 70%. They're not done yet. Twitter is now blocking links to some substack pages because of COVID, the CCP, and Hunter Biden, and Wikipedia suspends edits to its recession page after woke users change the definition of Biden's. That's the only one that is right. But I think there's a class action suit, isn't there? I mean, anyone who has been banned or been silenced on the social media pages,
Starting point is 01:12:03 that is government now. know we have the evidence through documents. That is collusion, a public-private partnership. So that is the First Amendment. Companies can do it. But when working with the federal government, they cannot. I disagree, and we can go back to kind of Wilson again, because I think in there, I mean, I think it's unacceptable and outrageous. Don't get me wrong. But in terms of a lawsuit, I'm sure in their terms of service, they all say, we can boot you off at, at any time for any reason whatsoever. So to try to kind of demonstrate that you don't have the right to do this,
Starting point is 01:12:42 I think it's going to be very hard to prove. I think Twitter can very easily claim, well, this was in consultation with the government, but we're the ones who made the decision. And I think the heavy-handedness, you know, they would like us to memory all this, but the heavy-handedness was right before the election, Glenn, as you remember, when they were reporting on Hunter's laptop
Starting point is 01:13:08 and 50 intelligence agencies, agents, excuse me, who've had no accountability for lying, because they said that they were all the symbols, classic symbols of Russian disinformation, which they still never said what those were. And there clearly weren't none because this was the idea that the law is going to hold these agents giant corporations accountable. It's in their favor. That's how our system has worked in themselves. Well, but I don't, my lawsuit really is not against these corporations.
Starting point is 01:13:43 as much as it is against the government, because the government is supposed to never get involved in that. And they have just found, through public-private partnerships, a way around the Constitution. They just get into bed with these corporations, and then they highly suggest, you know, we can help you or not help you. And they can highly suggest and really pressure these companies to do this, or these companies might even be inclined to do it themselves,
Starting point is 01:14:16 but the government has no place into being the arbiter of truth and speech. No place. But Glenn, the government, the First Amendment also guarantees the right of citizens to peaceably assemble. And if you try to do a lawsuit that's saying I wanted to go to my mother's funeral or visit her in the hospital and I was blocked because of these quarantines, you'd be laughed out to your face. So yeah, it's supposed to work in a certain way. But in practice, I don't think these judges, even fairly conservative judges, are going to give this the time of day whatsoever. One other thing, let me hit here before we have to go. Germany is cutting off hot water and electricity.
Starting point is 01:15:01 This is something Donald Trump said just recently. Ronald Reagan said it years ago, don't do it. Don't get in bed with Russia. They'll hold you hostage. And here they are. what do you think this means for for stability in the future of our world it's not just getting a vet of Russia
Starting point is 01:15:20 Germany has in the very last election gone from having a two major party system to having a three major party system the Greens have achieved parity with the Social Democrats which have historically since World War II in the center left party in Germany and now that the Greens are in power this is the kind of thing that happens.
Starting point is 01:15:41 When you want to have, you know, not be dependent on things like gas and whatever, you're going to have problems producing electricity. You're going to have problems producing energy. And they're cutting the water supply. They're having gas reductions. Public buildings won't have heatings from April to September. They're banning, this is in the city of Hanover. They're banning air conditioners, heaters, and radiators for people in their home.
Starting point is 01:16:08 And, you know, this is what the German people voted for. So even when things are resolved with Putin, and hopefully that's as quickly as possible, this is going to continue to be a problem. And that Green New Deal, which is not going away, which is just unpause, people should be very considerable what that's going to look like in practice here. You know, I was just watching this guy who is, he's got the hydrogen house. He used to work for NASA, and he makes hydrogen from solar power. and I've been a big believer in hydrogen for a long time.
Starting point is 01:16:44 It doesn't cause a water shortage. You have to make hydrogen from water. You actually get more water from hydrogen than you put into it, believe it or not. And it's 100% clean energy, and you can make it with solar energy. It is the answer. And I thought, you know, people could solve this problem if we were allowed to really, truly invent and do the things that we believe in. There'd be a lot of mistakes, but, you know, I was thinking,
Starting point is 01:17:17 I, you know what, maybe I should call this guy and see if I can build a hydrogen, you know, plant myself, because he's made it for his house, and you can power everything. And I thought, well, no, because, you know, the government is eventually going to say that I'm committing some crime because of it, because they'll deem hydrogen is what, ever the problem is. And that's our real problem. Government is the problem. Well, you're talking to an anarchist, so I could not agree with you more. I know, I know. Again, if carbon dioxide, they're trying to regulate that as a pollutant, which is something that every plant produces. At a certain point, their use of language is simply a mechanism to have power
Starting point is 01:18:02 and not, they don't use language to inform, they use it to manipulate. So I agree with it completely. Like, there's no way that if you're trying to create an energy plant of any kind, you're not going to be subject to nightmarish regulations and possibly felonies. Yeah, exactly. It's exactly right. And it's, I mean, it's the same story over and over and over again. And something's got to change. And I have a feeling with great pain will come great change. And hopefully it will be positive change if we all keep our heads. Michael, thank you so much for on with us. It's Michael Malice. He's the author of The Anarchist Handbook and the host of of your welcome. Did you have something else you wanted to say, Michael? Are you just disrupting
Starting point is 01:18:45 because you're an anarchist? No, you just said thank you. So I was going to say thank you. So have a great weekend, everyone. All right, have a good time. Thanks, Michael. Michael Malice, back in just a second. Our sponsor, this half hour is real estate agents I trust. I'm a small business owner. I own several small businesses. And one of the things I love best about owning a business is what it can actually do in helping people. That is what a real capitalist is all about. A real capitalist spends his time, how can I make people's life easier? And unfortunately, so many people are like, well, I just, how about if I put porn on the
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Starting point is 01:25:32 The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is... If you like great action thrillers, there is a book called The Terminalist. It's a series really, really great. And a new series now on Amazon Prime. It's the adaptation of The Terminalist. It has Chris Pratt in it.
Starting point is 01:26:00 If you haven't seen it yet, it's excellent. I read the book after watching, or after watching the series, and I think the book is better, it usually is. But the series is really great as well. The guy behind it is Jack Carr. He used to be a Navy SEAL, led special operation teams as a team leader
Starting point is 01:26:21 and platoon commander and troop commander. And, you know, he has walk the walk. He knows what he's talking about when it comes to world events. I want to talk to him a little bit about the terminal list. And also, where he's, he got so far in advance the deep state plot line in the terminal list. We talked to author Jack Carr in 60 seconds. Don't know if you heard it or not, but there is a recession going on.
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Starting point is 01:28:08 Jack Carr, welcome to the program. How are you, sir? Oh, thank you so much. I sincerely appreciate you having me on. It's been a, been a few times since we last spoke. It is crazy what's going on, isn't it? It is, both in the world, and then in, I guess on my journey here with the show and the books and everything else. It's gotten fairly busy, but I feel incredibly fortunate.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Yeah, well, you are. and you're, I mean, it's your hard work and your storylines. When you got a call or did you pitch Amazon Prime and Chris Pratt signed on? How'd you feel? Yeah, so it came about in a strange way that I am told is not the typical Hollywood story in that I wrote it first, got it to Simon & Schuster, they loved it. We got a two-book deal in place, and before the book even comes out, I get a call from a seal buddy who I hadn't spoken to in five years.
Starting point is 01:29:09 And he calls me and he says, hey, do you remember me? And I said, yes, I remember you? And he said, do you remember what you did for me in the SEAL teams? And I said, nope. And he said, you were the only person that as I was getting out of the military, sat me down, talked me through transitioning into the private sector. You introduced me to people outside the military.
Starting point is 01:29:26 And then you followed up with me to see how I was doing. Nobody else did that. I always wanted to thank you. And I said, no problem. How's it going? And he said, well, it's going great, but I heard you have a book coming out. And of course, I said, yep, it's coming out in a few months. I can send you an early galley copy if you'd like.
Starting point is 01:29:41 And he said, I'd like that, but I'd like to give it to a friend of mine. And I asked him who that was. And he said, Chris Pratt. And I thought, well, that's convenient because as I was writing this thing, I thought of Chris Pratt playing the main role. And I thought of that. Really? This is before his rise to A-list prominence,
Starting point is 01:29:58 before Guardians of the Galaxy, before Avengers, before Jurassic World, because I saw him as lovable Andy Dwyer on Parks and Rec. And then I saw this transformation. into a seal operator for zero dark 30. So I saw that transformation. And I knew that he hadn't done anything like this yet before. And I thought this is an actor that needs to take a risk and do something like this. And I think I had read somewhere that maybe he leans to the more patriotic side of things,
Starting point is 01:30:22 which is a little different for maybe in Hollywood. So I thought this was the right guy to bring this story to life. And so my friend Jared Shaw, who also is now a producer on the show, technical advisor, and plays booser in the show. He gave it to Chris. Chris read it. He read it the last week. week in December of 2017 called the first week in January 2018 wanting to option it so off we went to
Starting point is 01:30:42 the races he's a great guy isn't he he's a great guy he is he is he is he's a normal guy somebody you'd want to sit down have a beer with have a coffee with and he brought this energy to the set that was so encouraging and so inspirational each and every day bringing his A game which really filter across all 350 people working on that set and I had so many people come up to me and say that they had been on hundreds of Hollywood sets, and none of them had felt like this. And that's all due to Chris Pratt. That's great. That's great.
Starting point is 01:31:11 That's great. So encouraging and positive and just creating this environment that made everybody want to bring their A game every single day. So it was a thrill to see it brought to life. So let me ask you a question as a writer. James Reese, the Chris Pratt character, finds himself in the middle of this conspiracy. And a lot of us would call it the deep state. and it involves high members of the government, the DOD, and private corporations, pharmaceutical companies.
Starting point is 01:31:43 What gave you that idea in, I think you wrote this in 2018. So it was before the deep state was really talked about openly. Where did that come from? So it came out in 2018, but I started writing it in December of 2014. So that's my end of paper for the first on. But I'd always been drawn to conspiracies, thrillers my whole life. I've been a fan of the thriller genre, also of movies and television shows that had that theme, that conspiratorial element, but also that underdog who the system is just stacked against, who rises up and crushes his enemies. And I wanted a character, a modern-day character who would go into battle thinking he was already dead.
Starting point is 01:32:27 So he was free from societal norms and laws, and he could just uncover this conspiracy and essentially become the insurgent that he'd been fighting. for the previous, if it came up now, 20 plus years, and bring those home to the front door steps of people who have been sending young men, women, to their deaths for 20 plus years. So, but I really got, I went back and I looked at the church hearings. I really looked at the end of World War II, and the shift that occurred at the end of World War II.
Starting point is 01:32:54 And people should go back and listen to Dwight Eisenhower's speech, not just the one line that everyone always talks about, but the entire speech. And then look at what we talked about is defense establishment and the intelligence establishment. And then what happened in the 50s and the 60s in the 70s? And then what was out in the church hearings in the mid-70s? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Exactly. Because what happened in the church hearings? Yes, a lot of abuses by the federal government were exposed. But what do people like that do then? Well, they adapt. And so that adaptation has been occurring ever since the church hearings. And so I wanted to really look into that and then create a character that could go and take those people off the battlefield. So I have read many very, very wise people from Washington or who watch Washington.
Starting point is 01:33:42 And there is a problem with our intelligence community. They're now starting to say it's almost a fourth branch of government. And it silos everything and tells the leaders what they want them to know and silo different branches of the government, et cetera, et cetera. And they're running things. this is the conjecture that they're actually running things. Is it possible to reign these, these intelligence agencies and the DOJ and, you know,
Starting point is 01:34:14 state department? Is it possible to reel them back in? That is the real question. And, you know, they are gigantic bureaucracies with unelected officials that are in place. They can just wait out any politicians that get elected that do attempt to make changes. So they are such large bureaucracies, I am not sure. And that's the real question.
Starting point is 01:34:36 That's what I explore really in these novels as well. But what's so sad, especially to the citizenry, is that these institutions have been so politicized that it's to the detriment of us as the voters, as citizens. And now you have institutions that benefit from our division, mainly I'm talking about obviously a political class and the tech oligarchy. And we're walking right into this ambush.
Starting point is 01:35:05 It's like an L ambush of politicians and this tech monopoly and in we walk here as citizens. And I'm not sure how we get out of that. But they are the ones that directly benefit from this division. And that includes these institutions that fall under those political classes that have all been politicized, obviously. So how do we get out of that? That's a question I like to explore in my novels. But I don't know. I try to remain hopeful publicly.
Starting point is 01:35:37 But at the end of the day, when I sit down with my wife on the couch and we talk about everything going on in the world, it's sometimes difficult with everything going on out there. I know. I know. So we're talking to Jack Carr, the author. When we're looking at the world right now, I look at Ukraine. and it just doesn't feel right. We're sending $60 billion over there. Nobody's accounting for it.
Starting point is 01:36:07 It's a very dirty country as far as corruption. Our leaders, really, I think on both sides, but mainly on the Democrats, but Republicans are not entirely clean either, have been, especially the Biden, has been laundering money, in my opinion, and I think the evidence is pretty strong over in New York. Ukraine. And it feels like, I don't know, it just feels like the world wants this war to reset everything. How do you feel about Ukraine and where we're going? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:43 So anytime I see anything these days in the news or anything pop up online, I ask myself, what action do they want me to take? How am I being manipulated? And that's maybe a cynical way to look at it, but with so many inputs out there today so many more than we're out there. 30 years ago, obviously, 50 years ago, you have to ask yourself, how am I being manipulated? What action do these people want me to take? And then look at it through that lens.
Starting point is 01:37:10 In my second novel, True Believer, everything is speeding towards a Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is causing some issues with the second season of the terminal list, if we get one, because now we can't have that flat line because it actually happened. But when you see that happening, you have to ask the why. what lessons can we learn and apply going forward? Did we possibly make mistakes along the way here that helped make this happen, essentially? And then you can ask some other questions. Some of my sources out there are saying, hey, we might want to look into investments that Putin made through relatives and through friendly oligarchs in the days, weeks, months leading up to the invasion of Ukraine,
Starting point is 01:37:53 and what those same people have done in an invested sense, as far as. shorting and futures and that sort of a thing. So it's something that I'm looking into because it's quite possible that Putin got even wealthier after the invasion of Ukraine. Oh, I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did. And everything being so interconnected at those high levels. And we talked about those 50 intelligence officials that got on TV last fall and told us
Starting point is 01:38:22 all about Russian disinformation that applied to the Biden family. And what happened to those 50? I think it was 50. Well, nothing. It's accountability that we have totally lost. And that accountability, really, that loss of accountability goes back to the end of World War II, really 1947 with the establishment of our intelligence agencies and the military industrial complex, as we understand it today. But those were back in the beginnings there. But up until that point, senior military leaders were held to account for their failures.
Starting point is 01:38:52 And for whatever reason, after World War II, that stopped happening. George Marshall held military leaders accountable for what they did before World War II, during World War II. And that's how we got the names that we can all recite today of those generals and admirals that led our victory. And today we have the exact opposite. And what do we have now also? Well, a recruiting problem for the military. Why do we think that is? Well, because no one has trust in those senior military leaders that are going to be sending young men and women off to war.
Starting point is 01:39:20 And so we've lost that trust. That trust has been completely eroded. And that is because of the lack of accountability at those senior levels. Yeah, it's not that, I mean, you know, it's not even that I don't trust this commander in chief to know what the best thing to do is along with the leadership. But it's also that they, I mean, I don't trust that they're fighting the right fights that he will pick the right fights or fight the right fights in the right way and the righteous fights. I mean, I just don't know what we stand for right now and they're cleaning out the military and so many people are, leaving because of the vaccines and then they're cleaning out the military, you know, doing a political purge. It's just a very dangerous time. It really is. I mean, we're so divided.
Starting point is 01:40:08 We've been divided before, which gives me hope because we did come back together after the Civil War. So I do look at that case to give me a little bit of hope. But in many cases were manipulated into that division by the very entities who directly benefit from it, those politicians and tech companies we talked about. But it's so bad that if one side, and quote unquote side says that we need to secure our borders. The other side has to take the opposite position of that. They can't possibly find any common ground with the other, quote, unquote, side. We've lost all logic and common sense.
Starting point is 01:40:42 And interestingly enough that George Marshall and Carl von Klauschwitz both thought that common sense was the most important attribute of any leader. And we have completely lost that across our politics and our discourse in this country, unfortunately. We're talking to Jack Carr, the author of The Terminal List, which is a book. He's got a series out. Number six is coming out here soon. And is also Amazon Prime's adaptation of the first book, The Terminal List, played by Chris Pat Pratt, book and series absolutely worth watching.
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Starting point is 01:42:45 ten seconds and back to jack car jack thank you so much again for being on with us i just uh i really enjoy our talks. I really have been looking forward to this conversation for a couple of weeks. Let me just ask you about Nancy Pelosi in Taiwan. We normally will send people over to countries like that and then announce the trip after we leave. So you don't
Starting point is 01:43:23 put yourself in this situation. Again, I don't know if it's incompetence or what, but we've been announcing it, haven't even announced a date. And now, China said, in today's headline, It is those who play with fire get burned. And they are really threatening us.
Starting point is 01:43:41 I don't think they have the capability at this time to go into Taiwan. But what do we do here? And how dangerous is this trip? Well, China has always believed that Taiwan is just a province of China. So a lot of the fact to us not being able to put ourselves in our enemy's shoes or our opponent's shoes, our adversary's shoes. and look at the world through their perspective and then make wise decisions based on that. We keep looking at things through this Western lens. We did it in Afghanistan.
Starting point is 01:44:13 We did it in Iraq. We're doing it in Ukraine. You know, no matter how there's a few other aspects to that as well. But we've done it to China for the last 50 years. And we can't seem to get away from that. We were very reactionary. And it's one of those places. that we thought was just going to take care of itself.
Starting point is 01:44:37 And that's obviously not happened. I mean, since the 70s, really, that's been the policy. If you look all the way through the 80s, we just figure that the Taiwan, China situation will just over time, things will settle down. Everyone will kind of join onto this new, this band of nations that realizes that capitalism and free markets are the way ahead and all that sort of things. We just let it simmer. And now we have this situation that could turn in to burn.
Starting point is 01:45:03 all of us, but it's really because we can't look at things through our enemy's eyes. And we think we look at things through a four-year type of a time of eight years for the real deep thinkers among us, maybe, where they're thinking, not just decades, but they're thinking a century ahead and making moves that's up with them in a position of dominance in the years ahead. But they're not thinking of those election cycles. One, because they don't have to, but they're not short-sighted. We are the short-sided ones, and we prove that. time and time again to the detriment. Really, not just the United States, but of the world.
Starting point is 01:45:39 And we, this is totally chain. I mean, at least our enemies were our enemies for a long time. We understood that. And, and we're still kind of moving in the same direction. Now we're just flip-flopping around every four years. It's ridiculous. Jack, I'm sorry, I'm out of time. Is there going to be a second season terminal list?
Starting point is 01:45:58 That's the real question. And you'll be one of the first to know if I get word. All right. I'm going to hold you to that. All right. Good. Thank you so much. It has a score of 95 on rotten tomatoes. The critics hate it 39%. But that to me is just an endorsement to make sure you're watching it on Amazon Prime. The Glenn Back program. Goldline. Goldline, we're hitting brick walls everywhere. We have hit it good and fast. And we have, a whole contingent of the American public, mostly the press and the Democrats, who refuse to even acknowledge that we've crashed the car and we're in a ditch. I don't think it's drawing too strong of analogy to think that we are in the most dangerous times in our lifetime. I mean, I was born in 64, so I missed the Cuban Missile Crisis, but I think we are at those kinds of days where
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Starting point is 01:47:39 BlazTV.com slash Glenn. The promo code is unsafe. This is the Glenn Beck program. Oh man, there has been so many things that have gone on this week. I wanted to bring Carol Roth on. She is the author of the War on Small Business. She is a former investment banker. and she speaks the language of the common man and she cares more about Main Street than Wall Street. She's here to try to help me make sense of what happened this week. Hi, Carol, how are you?
Starting point is 01:48:17 Hey, Glenn, great to be with you. Happy Friday. Thank you. Happy Friday to you. Okay, so I have several things I want to ask you. So let's see if we can just tick these off here real quick. And then if you want to add something beyond this, I'd love to hear it. We're two quarters now. two quarters of contraction.
Starting point is 01:48:37 They're trying to say that that's not a recession. That is a recession, correct? Glenn, I told you and your listeners about this months ago. I predicted this is what's going to happen because the group that is charged with officially declaring recessions, the National Bureau of Economic Research or NBER, gives themselves latitude intentionally. Of course they're going to. They can't have political spin. They can't extract a fee if we can all just look at the data and go, oh, obviously, this is a recession.
Starting point is 01:49:14 Despite all of that, we all in the financial media, in the economic predicting realm, everybody colloquially agrees that two quarters of economic contraction is a recession. Because if you have something that doesn't have a definition, people can't understand it. there's no way to create any policy around it. You can't just have something that completely has no definition. So yes, there is latitude, and that is why I predicted, given that latitude, that they would do exactly what they are doing now. So the other thing that happened this week, so we had the announcement, we are in a recession, no matter what the White House says. And then the Fed increased the rate 75 basis points. So we're up to 2.225 or 2.5, right?
Starting point is 01:50:09 And at what point does this become a stall of the engine? Do we have any idea at what point it starts to get dangerous? Are we already there? So if you believe the sort of economic theory that 2%-ish is the neutral rate, that if everything expands at 2%, and the Fed funds rate, 2% is their target neutral rate, then we're just around neutral right now, and it shouldn't be that much of a concern. Frankly, we had an artificially depressed set of Fed funds rates for a variety of reasons. And so bringing that back to a normalized level isn't that bad.
Starting point is 01:50:53 To get down the inflation that they have caused, they probably need to bring it up a little bit more. but I do think that if we start seeing something that has what we fancy people call a four handle on it, where it's 4% or higher gets out of the three range, then that's when you're going to start really seeing people freaking out and having a major impact on the economy. But is, I mean, I'm old enough to remember Volker, and we had 18, 19% interest rates. And that was just from the inflation that we had Jimmy Carter. It was nothing like this inflation. How are we expected to bring inflation down with two, four, five, ten percent inflation, or I mean, a ten percent interest rates?
Starting point is 01:51:42 Well, here's the reality is that the Fed's tools aren't going to fix some of the issues. I mean, we have a supply and demand and balance. So unless the Fed can stop printing money and start printing oil and printing food, they're not going to fix those areas. The only thing they can do is completely jam up the economy so bad that we're in a massive recession and then, you know, everybody's sort of hoarding their money. And that's how those supply and demand metrics come together. But they're really focused on the demand side, not the supply side. What we need to be focused on is how do we get more supply in these key areas so that we balance out that from the supply side, not the demand side.
Starting point is 01:52:24 It's a Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem about 100 years ago and a line that keeps coming to mind. was we had plenty of money but nothing our money could buy um so it helped me out we're trying we're fighting inflation we can't do it really effectively like volker did because it would just choke us to death um and then mansion comes in and we change build back better into something called the inflation reduction act how can you spend an additional 700 billion dollars and reduce inflation I, yeah, this is like, I might get a little agro here. This is making me so angry because we were going to throw a parade for Joe Manchin. He was the one that stopped, built back, broke.
Starting point is 01:53:10 He was the one that saved us from even more inflation, taking inflation to hyperinflation. Now, when we're all really happy about that, heaping praise upon him, he is backtracking. And so they're like, we're going to go spend a bunch of money to fight inflation. But the reality is Chuck Schumer came out and he said it. This is Green New Deal light. This is about spending more money on their climate hoax instead of fighting inflation. He put it out there. It's in a tweet on Twitter that I responded to.
Starting point is 01:53:39 They're saying the quiet part out loud. They don't care. This is what they're trying to do. And this is why we have, Glenn, I'm calling it, the Great Resetion. So the Great Recession was from the financial crisis. This is from your wonderful book, The Great Reset. this is the great recession. This is intentional. They are doing this to us on purpose. Yeah, it is incredible that even John Kerry came out and said, we have to do this. We're
Starting point is 01:54:07 going to have to spend billions and if not trillions of dollars on this. And that in the end will be anti-inflationary. And it's like that that doesn't even make any sense. That's worse than Common Core Math. And they've been wrong on everything. I mean, these are the people who told us there is no inflation. They told us the way to fix crime was to defund the police. They were wrong on COVID. They've been wrong on everything, including the energy transition that's affecting us not only here, but in Europe. And now all of a sudden, we're going to say, oh, you're going to know how to do this by spending more money. I mean, it is just, basically Congress is just theater and money laundering at this point. So correct me if I'm wrong. Historically speaking, Volker,
Starting point is 01:54:50 when he made the tough decision, he made the tough decision. He made the tough. decision to hurt the American economy, to save the dollar, and to save the world's reserve currency. And so we had some credibility. I have been worried ever since TARP that the world is going to despise us because we have destroyed the currency, which is destroying the economies of everyone in the world, so we can not suffer. That's the thing. that's what we've been doing. And when I heard Joe Biden say yesterday, well, inflation, but you know, there's inflation all over the world. I thought, yes, because they hold our dollar. Are we not causing the inflation in Germany and every place else? Are we not the root
Starting point is 01:55:43 of that problem? I think the central bankers in Europe and Japan and some other areas can share some of the credit. But here is the amazing thing. And you're so spot. on about Volker, you know, back when we really were this World Reserve currency and we had somebody like Volker who was trying to do the right thing, we had a dilemma, the Triffon dilemma. We've talked about this before where you have to make a decision. Do you make decisions based on keeping the world currency stable for the world or do you make decisions based on what's right for the United States? Incredibly, we have done neither.
Starting point is 01:56:19 We have destroyed the value of the dollar and the purchasing power here in the U.S. and we've also created a horrible situation for everybody around the world. So nobody's happy. And so, yes, we're having an inflationary issue across the world. And now because of all these other central banks and the strong dollar, we also have a potential debt issue in the emerging markets because all of not only their commodities, but their debt is dollar denominated. Last thing I have on my list is we had some inflation numbers today. but it's not the CPI, the consumer price index, which is at 9.1, I think. It's something else.
Starting point is 01:57:01 And I think it is, shoot, I had it written down. The PC. Employer cost index, I thought it was. Employer cost index is what they're talking about. What is that one? So this is a subcomponent that's not really one of the core ways that they look at inflation. It's more of an indicator that's stuck in the middle. of other indicators.
Starting point is 01:57:25 But the ones that, you know, we're most focused on are the CPI, which is sort of the one that the headline, the consumers focused on. The one that the Fed is most focused on is the PCE, which is the personal consumption expenditures. And that's a different read. And no surprise. And hang on. Hang on.
Starting point is 01:57:43 Just a second. That's the one that they're raising the interest rates and doing all these things to discourage us from buying things. right? They need us to slow down the velocity of money, correct? I mean, I don't know what they're doing because they're trying to get us to, quote unquote, like you said, slow down the velocity money, slow down our spending cool demand, but then the government's out, you know, sending money to, you know, everybody in the world and spending more. So I honestly have no idea what they're doing, but yes, theoretically that that's what they're doing. But the PCE number is what the Fed is going to be
Starting point is 01:58:22 focused on. It is many percentage points lower than the CPI. So as that comes down, you know, in tandem, you're not going to need to see the CPI at three or four for them to feel like they've done what they need to do. And this is the crazy thing. The Wall Street Journal, they, every month, they go out and they interview economists. More than half the economists think by the end of next year that the Fed is going to be cutting rates again. I know. This is the state. I read that. I thought that's insane. It is. This is all a game.
Starting point is 01:58:57 And they think that they know what they're doing. But the reality of what they're doing is they're creating these boom and bust cycles that benefit the wealthy and wealth connected that wash out the average investor and transfer wealth from Main Street to Wall Street. This is all that they're doing. And we have to stop them. It is amazing. I look at this chip thing that they spent, what, another $250 billion. in dollars on. That is corporate welfare. So that is taking our tax dollars and giving it to these giant corporations. I saw that and I thought all they're doing right now is impoverishing the
Starting point is 01:59:35 little person, the person on Main Street that's paying the taxes. They're making it so we don't have any purchasing power. We don't, we can't, we can't go anywhere because of the gas. We can't do anything. We'll start to lose our houses. We'll start to default on our loans on our cars. They'll be fine with it. And the government is now saying, I'm your consumer. So you businesses, you do what I say, because I'm going to be buying. Isn't that what's happening? Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:00:06 It's the barbelling of the classes. You're going to have the complete hollowing out of the middle class and the working class. And we've seen this throughout history before. You know, at the late stages of empires, this is what happens, where you get that wealth that's concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, and then you have everybody else who's poor and nobody else is in the middle. And that's exactly what was my reaction when I saw this.
Starting point is 02:00:31 I mean, not to say that we don't need to compete with China, but these are very wealthy companies. But you lessen the red tape. Exactly. Yes, you just lessen the red tape. Thank you. Thank you. But yeah, they're just giving more corporate welfare.
Starting point is 02:00:46 And by the way, the Elizabeth Warrens in the world who stand up and say bad corporations, they're all going along with this. It's Bizarro Worlds. Carol, thank you so much. I really appreciate all your hard work on this and keeping us informed. You can follow her on Twitter.
Starting point is 02:01:04 Carol J. Carol J.Roth, or you can go to Carolroth.com, and she's a writer and working on a new book that I'm very excited about. You should announce that at some point. But she also writes, for Theblaze.com and is a frequent guest on this program. Thank you so much, Carol.
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Starting point is 02:03:45 Um, hmm, that's a good question. I know there's a new documentary on Alex Jones that is out, uh, which is, okay, no, not really sounds like a date night movie. Have you seen, um, the Elvis movie? I think we talked about this before. Have you seen the Elvis movie? I have not. I'm worried it might be like the Elton John movie where they sing in it. So I have to, I can't watch it. Okay. No, but it, no, it's not a musical. Like, That was kind of a musical where they just broke out into song and stuff.
Starting point is 02:04:11 It's not that. This is the story of Elvis. And the guy who plays Elvis, he's Canadian. And he is positively Elvis. You can listen to the soundtrack. And some of the songs are Elvis. Some of them are him. And I challenge you to know which one is which.
Starting point is 02:04:27 Lisa Marie Presley saw it and said, this is our story. And she's like, it's creepy. I'm watching him on the screen. And she said a few times, I didn't know if that was old footage or new footage. It's incredible. And the story is great.
Starting point is 02:04:47 The story is great. And it's not a musical. You should check it out. I think you'd like it.

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