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Episode Date: May 23, 2023

Glenn reviews an op-ed from the Daily Caller that questions whether Islam is the future religion for the Right and why that’s a dangerous sign for America. Glenn lays out how our society is doubling down on transgender/drag queen ideology. Will anybody sue Bank of America for illegally sharing bank records with the FBI regarding January 6? The surgeon general has now released a warning on the dangers of social media for children. Host of “Timcast IRL” Tim Pool joins to discuss the downfall of American cities in the aftermath of veteran Daniel Penny’s persecution. Contributing editor for the American Editor Peachy Keenan joins to discuss how in modern society, the courageous will be punished and the cowardly will be rewarded. Rep. Thomas Massie joins to give an update on the ATF’s new stabilizing brace rule that would make millions of citizens felons. Glenn and Stu examine where America is in its current debt crisis and why negotiating is mandatory regarding raising the debt ceiling.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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America, welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Is Islam the future of the religious right in America? And unbelievably, very, very wise op-ed in the daily collar. We begin there in just a minute. Imagine for a moment you get rid of the pain that you're in. What would life be like for you? Our bodies experience pain largely as a result of inflammation in our joints. And if your experience with pain is anything like, mind, you want to get rid of it. And you've probably tried everything. But have you tried Relief Factor? If you're living in pain, life can be a real struggle, but please give Relief Factor a three-week try. Three-week quick start, 1995. It's a trial pack. It's not a drug, so it's not going to whack you out. And it reduces inflammation in our bodies, which is the cause of most of

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How far has America come? This is from Mandel Nagan, from the daily caller. he is an opinion writer. He said in C.S. Lewis's 1945 science fiction novel, that hideous strength, a group of Christian dissidents joined forces with the resurrected wizard Merlin to fight a techno-satainous conspiracy that threatens to engulf Britain and then the world. After learning that Christianity has been torn to pieces and speaks with a divided voice, Merlin makes a bold suggestion.

If all this West, all this West part of the world is apostate, might it not be lawful in our great need to look further beyond Christianity? Today in our country where progressives are rapidly mainstreaming Satanism and the Oval Office is occupied by a devout Catholic, in parentheses, who praises the chemical castration of children, many American Christians are asking themselves the same question. You know, the one thing that bothers me about this is, I don't think we've tried Christianity. I don't think we've been, it's kind of like the Bill of Rights. People are like, we got to get rid of the Constitution.

It just doesn't work. We haven't done it for like 100 years. So, and have we really done Christianity? I mean, a lot of people say they're Christians. I say I'm Christian. But, I don't know, do we live it every single day? Are we striving to be closer to God and to be better Christians? I haven't seen that movement.

I feel like it's starting to bubble. But before we give up on Christianity, can we, I don't know, let's give it a whirl. Let's give it a whirl. Six years ago, conservative Christians marched against Sharia law. Today, many would rather live under Islamic Crescent that, under the pride flag, and that might turn out to be the choice on offer. Christians are slowly painfully learning that neutrality is a myth. Traditional adherence to the two faiths are already made common cause in resisting progressive

tyranny. Anti-feminist, anti-trans commentary from conservative Christian pundits like Matt Walsh and Candice Owens have circulated widely among traditional Muslims. In Dearborn, Michigan, Muslim parents shut down a school board meeting after learning that the school library included among other titles, a guidebook explaining the ins and outs of gay sex. Some figures on the fringes of the right are even praising or embracing Islam. This should bother you. And this is one step closer to the line that I fear we're walking. right up to. And the only solution is Christianity. Practiced Christianity. Love thy neighbor.

Why are people, why is this op-ed being written? Because Christians are losing hope and they're starting to say, well, this isn't working. Well, you haven't practiced your religion, I contend, for most people. and so what are they doing? They're looking for someone that's a little more hard line to clean up the mess. This is exactly what happened in Germany. Weimar Republic, I've been talking about this recently. Viarmar Republic, the first trans surgery happens in 1925. They open a university of sexology.

They start pumping out LGBTQ and transgender. stuff. It permeates the culture. That's what the movie Cabaret is really about. It permeates the culture. It degrades the culture. It starts to steep, seep into the school. Pedophilia rears its ugly head. And people have had enough of it. When there is another choice, they try and fight, but the churches are already dead. And so people look to something else. and the something else is Adolf Hitler. Because the first year or so, all he's talking about is making Germans moral again. And so he goes in and he destroys it.

And what did everyone say? All the people said, well, you know what? He's so ridiculous. Nobody's ever going to listen to him. But he'll get the job done. And then we'll take back the power. doesn't work that way. I don't want to live under a,

uh, a crescent flag. Thank you. Sharia law, not for me. But the left is pushing and pushing and pushing. Monday night, the Los Angeles Dodgers announced that they had reverse course again. And now have re-invited the sisters of perpetual indulgence to be honored at their

June 16th Pride Night Festivities. The drag queens who dress as nuns accepted an apology and will receive the Community Hero Award at the Dodgers 10th annual LGBTQ Plus Pride Night. They are being cited for the life-saving work that they have done tirelessly. So these quote unquote nuns, all drag queens, their slogan is, forth and sin some more, are doing life-saving work. They are also mocking Christians. They are, you know, diabolical in nature, opposing the things that Christians believe.

So the Dodgers said, no, we're not going to do this because the Catholics went crazy. Well, apparently Catholics don't have as much power anymore as the drag queen community. Let me give you this story. Do you remember a story I told you about the transgender pedophile that took his seven-year-old daughter and made movies with her and other pedophiles? and they were rape movies over and over and over again, and it was absolutely horrendous. Okay, he was convicted. He's now in the women's prison.

And he's suing now because he says he and the entire Wiccan population at the prison. He's a witch. He said, they've suffered religious discrimination and we seek religious accommodations. Now, as the Blaze reported a couple of weeks ago, after serving as president of the Clark County Queer Association, he started an amateur transgendered pornography film business. He and three other degenerates. One of them is now a fellow inmate at the women's prison with him.

There's two guys now, fully intact in the women's prison. he did what the judge said was, if not heinous, cruel and depraved, I don't know what is. So he was convicted. He was sent in the prison. He and his fellow transvestic child rapist are there, and they are trying to hold religious services.

And he wants certain items, including a witch's cloak. that's a brown hoodless cloak. It is one of the personal religious items that he says he needs other items, the book of shadows, a divination tool, pentacles, pentagrams, run cards, salt, and chalices. I don't know. I say no. I say no. This is why.

this is why John Adam said if you're not a religious and moral people this system will fall it's not made for the opposite you have to have your own morals

you have to have your own standards and as a society we have no more standards so you can just argue oh yeah the guy's Satan worshipper yeah give him the chalice Sure, sure. No.

No. Washington State, now spending $83,000 of taxpayer money on training drag queen story hours. Washington State is spending that money, and they're going to feature the director of drag queen story hour. Hmm. titled Washington DEI Empowerment Conference. The training is set. to have talks that include diversity, anti-racism, and equity. Hayden Michaels, the Deputy Communications Director of the Office of Financial Management, said,

we expect the cost of putting on the conference to be about $83,000, $16 sessions, 5,000 seats each session. That's about a dollar per seat, he said. Yeah, I don't think the problem is the money, really, quite honestly. It's a drag story hour and fireside chat. How about San Francisco? They've just named their first drag laureate. They drag laureate,

promoting the city's queer culture and community. Mayor declared the official job description is being fabulous all of the time. It comes with a $55,000 stipend for, the 18-month position. It's part of the program from the mayor's office and the public library. The Tampa Pride on the river event been canceled due to a series of anti-groomer bills passed by the Florida legislature and signed into law. Everybody's upset with this.

They say, I have a feeling, not everybody is. upset with this. Democratic governor declares state of emergency in North Carolina. The Democratic governor of North Carolina declared the state of emergency in education after the legislature voted for school choice. Now they voted so quickly and so cleanly on this. He says they're trying to starve public education by dropping a bomb on public education. This is the problem here is they're not choking the life out of it. He doesn't like the ruling. He's going to declare an emergency because why his veto will be overridden.

High school. Lake Ridge High School. The students there, the male students, have been removing tampon dispensers off the walls of the boys' bathrooms. Apparently, the boys in Oregon State don't agree. with a requirement that public schools supply free tampons and sanitary pads for boys. Let me tell you again, boys and men do not menstruate. If you are a boy or a man, there's no need for that product. So why would we put menstruation products into a boys' restroom?

Do not deny the truth. Boys don't need that. No matter what society may call them, they are clearly girls because boys do not menstruate. So these are the headlines today. Are we headed in the right direction or the wrong direction? Is our solution of, I guess, giving up, or teaming? with people who are even, who have a spine like those who like Sharia law. Is that the right direction?

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34% of Americans never go to church. That's the highest recorded in five decades. Another report from the Public Religion Research Institute said 27% of Americans claim no religion up from 19 in 2012 and 16% in 2006. 27 from 16. The share of Americans who identify as white evangelical Protestants has dwindled from 23 to 14%. Share of mainline white Protestants has fallen from 18 to 14. White Catholics have declined from 16%.

Population to 13. Now, do we believe in God? Are we going to church? nearly three quarters of the people believe in life after death. So 75% of us believe in life after death, but just less than 50% of us believe in God. Is this a case for the space octopus people? I'm not sure.

Only 7% of people do not believe in God. 7. They're mostly, if not all, Democrats. Religious scholars, this say this is the, gold standard of surveys on faith. 29% of Americans claiming no religion at all. That is also up. So what is happening?

Well, as we are getting less and less religious, and I'm not pushing any religion, because I find God myself, but religion, religion is a framework, and I think we all need different framework, but my faith gives me the framework that teaches me how to live to be a Christian. And whatever that framework is, if you're just going and it doesn't require you to change, you're not really going. Church is just a thing you do. Church is outside of the walls of the little building you go to.

Religion is where you get those instructions to go do things outside of the walls of the church every Sunday. So what is the solution here? The solution we are ignoring. The solution is getting weaker and weaker. We are getting further and further away from the solution. If you don't see that evil has reared its ugly head at this point, you may never see it. If you just think that this is, I don't know, just, uh, what? Another day in America?

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of people who use their cards in D.C. or around D.C. in the days leading up to and after and the day January 6th. This is remarkable. They weren't given a warrant. They volunteered all of the information on anyone who was using their Bank of America card in the D.C. area on those days. Now, case you don't know, that's wildly against the law. According to federal regulations, no government authority may have access or obtain copies or the information contained in any financial records of any customer from a financial institution unless financial records are reasonably described and the customer authorizes access. There's an appropriate administrative subpoena or summons.

There's a qualified search warrant. There is an appropriate judicial subpoena. And there is appropriate written request from an authorized government authority. None of those things happened. So what does it mean? It means that you can sue the Bank of America. Have you seen, I mean, I know mesophiliaoma is a very big deal. Mesotheloma, right?

Mesothelio. I know so many people with mesothelioma. It's just like over and over. It seems to be the biggest thing that's ever happened if you watch cable news. Correct. It's constant commercials. Where are the attorneys that are saying we could make a gold mine on this? if you as a financial institution break these rules,

you can seek damages, not only sue them for any harm that might have come to you, but you can sue for actual damages. And the damage rate is $100 per violation. Do you know how many times they violated this? How many records were violated? court costs, reasonable attorney fees, and any punitive damages, the court allows for intentional violations. Why is there not an attorney working on this? Attorneys don't really like to be overly litigious, Glenn.

They're just not interested in that. Yeah. Okay. Well, you have three years to file. So hurry, because we now know that that is happening. And you can't. trust anyone anymore. Listen to this. You know, the media or the government is now saying that we've got to oversee social media. We've got to take care of it because of misinformation. And that's very dangerous. Listen to this. Tell me if this isn't disinformation. Cut one. This is the NAACP of Florida. On the economic diversification front in just the last few years, Florida has moved into the number one spot in the United States for black owned businesses. How do you address that with this new ban? First of all, that's propaganda language. So you can spin the whatever language you would like to have.

The policies that he had put in place are harmful policies to far too many individuals. So wait, wait, it's propaganda. No, that's a fact from the Florida Chamber of Commerce, which is not exactly a conservative organization. They're number one. That's propaganda. So you got to give the United States some teeth because they got to stop this dangerous propaganda. Not that. Not that. That's not disinformation or misinformation. But other things that you'll find in media and social media, you know, generally conservative, that's disinformation. And it's harmful. It's a surgical critique of the policies too. When you say, basically,

Basically, look, that's propaganda and it's bad. Okay, okay. Well, thank you for these deep explanation as to why these policies are bad, because there doesn't seem to be hurting Florida all that much. And, of course, the misinformation thing goes on and on and on and on. I mean, there's a lot of misinformation out there. Seemingly, the people who are constantly trying to point it out are the ones making it. Have you noticed that?

Yes, I have. That's not even one of the things. There's a new advisory out from the Surgeon General. Have you heard about this? This is a... On social media, right? Surgeon General Warning. Cigarettes can give you cancer.

Also, don't let your kids on social media. That's basically where we are now. I agree with it. Believe me. I'm totally with the honest. Don't... The biggest mistake is kids went into high school and they had to have a tablet and a phone and it spirals out of control fast.

Give it up by not taking it up. That's what I... say good for you. But it's true and that there's causes all sorts of problems. The certain general warning game out and they have, they do have some benefits of social media. They have one, almost a page of benefits and then six, five or six pages of, of arms. Give me some of the benefits.

I mean, it's, they're really reaching here. You know, they're more connected to what's going on in their friend's lives. All right. I mean, yeah. Social media does work that way, you know, if you use it that way, which not everyone does. they have they like to have a place to show their creative side okay you know like you put your art on Instagram right I mean that helps you expose your creative side there might be some other exposing going on but go ahead what social media you're on right and then again like sub in this

audience might not find this to be necessarily positive yes I would say the buffering effects against stress that online social support from peers may provide can be especially important to youth who are often marginalized, including racial, ethnic, and sexual and gender minorities. For example, studies have shown that social media may support the mental health and well-being of lesbian, gay, bisexual, asexual, transgender, queer, intersex, and other youths by enabling peer connection, identity development and management of social support. Yeah. And like, that is why this is, yes, it is doing that because society and social media are just pushing that. And that's what's harming our kids. That's why 30% of our kids are like, I'm transgender. Right. No, they're not. Or no, but I think that is a way of stating our critique of social media. Yes, it is. It is. Yes, I mean, saying that it's, it's helping their well-being. and supporting their, what was the, I love this term, the, where is it, identity development. In other words, they don't have these identities and then they help them get developed on social media.

Well, yeah, I kind of agree with that statement. I'm not looking at it as a benefit of social media. My father used to always say the most powerful words in any languages, I am blank, whatever that blank is. And he used to tell me when I was a kid, you have to fill in that blank because there's a whole world of people that want to fill it in for you. And that's what they're saying is a good thing. They'll help you with your identity. No, no. Look at that.

Look how far we've come from my father's teachings of don't let anyone else define your identity. Yeah. You define it. Your dad should have written atomic habits because that's a big part of what that is it really. Yeah, because like, you know, one of the, you know, it's one of the biggest selling improvement books out there. And one of the concepts in there is like, you can't think of yourself as like, I want to run three times a week. You have to think of it as I am a runner. Yes.

Right? I am. That's who I am. That's part of my identity. Yes. It's who I am as a person. I am a good parent. I am a good, you know, steward of my money.

Those types of things. It's just a way of thinking a little bit different. It's not trying to complete a task. It's just part of who you are. And you realize that your life, those are the things you actually succeed on doing. Correct. Yes. And so, but I mean, that is, I think, something that is, that goes into this. You start.

So that's a good thing. What are the bad things? Oh, my gosh. It's too long to summarize. But everything you've heard, I mean, depression, you know, insecurity for kids, self-harm. You know, suicide. It goes on and on and on.

The whole list, you talk to Tristan Harris just the other day. And I know we mostly spent on time on AI. Yeah. But he's the guy who's laid this stuff out really well and how it happens. You know, they put these features in like infinite scrolling. Like what on earth would the point of that be? Do you remember back in the day when social media was just, you'd scroll and you'd get to the end of your feed? And it would just stop.

Yes. Right? Like that's how it used to be. Yes. It's how it was designed to be initially. until they realize, well, if we put a stop sign in, people will stop. So why take the stop signs out? You know, constantly, instead of giving people updates, like the benefits, they said, hey, you keep

in touch with your friends. Well, you used to follow a bunch of your friends and you'd see the updates and then it would be over and you'd be at the end of your feed and you get off. Well, instead, well, let's just start suggesting people that aren't their friends. You know, and I think... I think part of this problem is the human... humans are not meant to have this many friends. Yeah.

You know, it's like a business. Once you go over 50 people, a business starts to get a little shaky. It's hard to keep it under control. Right. At 150, you really need a team to do it. You're not meant to have a thousand friends. You're not meant to have.

I think. I mean, how many friends do you think the average person has? I mean, real friends. I mean, probably 10 or less. Yeah, I think 10 is probably high. Real good friends. And you have an acquaintance, a circle of friends that you might keep in touch with here and there and go out every once in a while with.

But real friends that you're in touch with a lot and really care about every aspect of their lives and all that. I mean, you're probably 10 or less. Yeah. And sometimes that includes family members as well. Sure. So that's about, I think, what we are used to having, what we should have. But our kids are quote unquote friends of friends of friends. So you're getting stuff from your friend's friend who you don't know.

You're not really friends with them. You're a friend friend. You know what I mean? You don't have any idea how they narrow their circle of friends down. and I just don't, I think it is overwhelming for the average human. Ruins regular friendships. My wife talks about this all the time. And she posts, she posts on social media often, updates about what she's doing.

And then she realizes she hasn't talked to like one of her close friends in weeks. And they get in touch. And they don't have tons to talk about because both of them have been constantly flooding social media messages about every aspect of their lives at each other. They never discussed them, but they see them. So they know. There's no reason to talk about what our daughter did two weeks ago because they've already heard all of that information. Right.

There's no stories to update each other on. You know, there's no conversations to be had. So quickly, what is the Surgeon General suggesting? We blow up Silicon Valley, which is what they tried to do. If people would kill, they tried to put it underwater causing an earthquake. And if they would have been successful. If Zorin Industries would have just been. been successful.

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month. Welcome to the broadcast. Tim Poole is joining us here in just a few minutes. He is host of Tim Cass IRL. And he's a guy who used to be a liberal and now I think we're probably too liberal for him. He is, he moved into West Virginia and has not looked back and he is, he is right now talking about how all of our major cities are turning into Gotham. And they are. And he's a guy who,

who, you know, lives what he says on this. I mean, every person I've talked to several people who've gone on with him on a show. And the process described to get to the place where he does the show is fascinating. Yeah, I mean, the bag over your head is a little much. The back of a van.

Yeah. He's invited me on several times and it's like I just, it's impossible for me to get to. Yeah. West Virginia and then, you know, into a van with a bag on my head. Yeah. And then you're in a trunk for a while, which is a way. Yes, but they do have the trunk release cord, but they say don't push it. Yeah.

You can, though, count the number. number of bridges you go over because the tires sound different. There you go. But I mean, that's someone who really believes. Oh, yeah. No. It's time to get away from these cities. And it's hard to, watching them disintegrate in front of our eyes, it's difficult to come to a different conclusion. Oh, you can't. I just don't know how. I mean, it was like I was saying with evil. I don't understand. If you don't see evil now at our doorstep, not bad things, evil is being unleashed. You haven't walked through a target recently. And I think, you know, Glenn, the self-fulfilling prophecy here essentially happens because sane people

leave. Yeah. And then who's left to elect the next person? Insane people. Yeah. And it's happening at all of these cities where you keep looking at you're like, why would they, why would they put, elect this crazy person after everything that's happened. Well, all the other people have either moved out of town or were shot. So the only white people left are crazy people to vote these insane people in. New York has gone nuts. He is, Tim Poole has raised a lot of money for Daniel Penny's legal defense fund. Oh, yeah. And that, this is, what are you supposed to teach your kids? What are you supposed to teach your boys? How are you supposed to teach anything other than sit down and shut up? Don't do anything.

No matter what it is. That's a very, very bad lesson. Tim Poole joins us next. Hey, Stu. Is that the type of state of emergency that my Patriot Supply exists to prevent? Are you kidding me? If they put in school choice that you can go get your emergency food. I'm already in my shelter.

Okay, good. I'm already locked up in my shelter. I'm just here with all of my food from my patron supply because of the state of emergency that's going on. Yeah. Notice he's not in my shelter? I'm not in the shelter because I don't think school choice is a state of emergency. I think it's a real positive. Yeah.

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This is The Glennback program I don't know I don't think our cities are turning into Gotham. I mean, well, we don't have the big bat light yet. So, but other than that, other than that, I mean, that's the last piece. For it to officially become Gotham, we need a caped crusader with a bat light.

Um, but the crime we got. What the hell is happening? Tim Poole is here, host of Timcast, IRL. Uh, you can follow him on Timcast.com. this guy is taking Gotham on and doing some amazing things, raising money for Daniel Penny's defense fund. This guy, if this guy goes to jail, what does that teach all of us?

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Well, I'm good. I want to come on to your show. You've invited me a few times, but I don't know. Getting there and the bag over my head and being thrown into the back of the van. Yeah, we're up in the top of the mountains, so you know, I've got to keep it a secret, right? Yeah. How are you? Pretty good, pretty good. I mean, things are going great out here. We're expanding quite a bit. We got a new studio that's popping up. I'm very excited for that. Yeah.

Other than that, just doing the show, talking about the news, and then I guess to a certain degree, giving my money away to people who need it more than I do. Good for you. Good for you. What you're doing with Daniel Perry is so, or Daniel Penny is so. Penny is the other guy. Yeah. Penny is what you're doing is so important.

This guy, I can't believe we live in America today that is going out. after this guy? Well, I was on the other side of it to a certain degree when the story first comes out. Because I've been just really frustrated with what I view is not enough people standing up for our moral values or a moral framework. You know, and so with, say, Calut-Rittenhouse, for instance, 100% we got to save this guy with Daniel Penny. I first said, you know what? Obviously, this guy should not be going to prison. he did the right thing. He was defending others.

But if you choose to live in these cities and you are not pushing back against the changes, if you're voting for these people, I have no sympathy. And so that was what I was saying the week prior. And then I had a few conversations. Some people made some good arguments to me. And I realized, you know what, there is a very, very good reason to actually be in this fight to make sure Penny does not go to prison. The first is, you know, I felt kind of bad to see everybody rallying to say,

this guy from prison. Here I am being this kind of dick. Like, I screw you. You made your own bed. But I thought about two things. One, someone said to me, it's not so easy just to leave a city. When, you know, Tim, when you say, get out of the cities because they're getting bad and the Democrat policies are soft on crime. It's getting worse. You understand some people can't just up and leave. And my response was always, well, it may be very, very hard. And it may be the hardest thing you've ever done, but you certainly can move out of these cities. And then someone made a really good point. my wife left me through no choice of my own and my kids are here and I will not leave them behind. And I'm like, okay, that's actually a good point.

There really are circumstances where people, they want to stay there. They want to push back. They don't want the cities to fall into this chaotic garbage. And, you know, I was a bit short-sighted on that. And I can respect that. But then the better argument was, if Daniel Penny loses this fight, then the self-defense, then self-defense in this country erodes. and it's only a matter of time before it comes to your suburbs and then to your more rural areas.

And that was the most compelling thing to me. I was like, well, look, I've always agreed this guy is a hero who's done the right thing. But actually, that's a really good point. So when I went and, you know, I wake up one day and I'm looking at the fundraiser, I said, basically because I was such a dick. Okay, we're on an FCC airways. I just wanted you to be careful. Oh, sorry.

That's all right. I should probably lead out on this one. And so then I decided to, you know, I looked at what the current numbers were and I said, I can afford to do better. So I put up $20,000 for, for Daniel Penny, kind of in a, I should have donated in the, in the first place, I was wrong to say, you're on your own. And I do want this guy to win. I do want self-defense to win.

And so I put up the 20 grand. and I said, I know there's a lot of people who can probably give more than me, and I challenge them to do so. And there's another reason on top of it. Let's send a message that the protests, which triggered this man's arrest, are meaningless. Because you have in New York City, these protesters come out, they're violent, they get arrested, and they use that to garner sympathy. And yet this, our reporter who was simply standing there filming was physically attacked by these protesters. And I said, I want to send a message that these protests don't work. And so that means we have to counter those protests with something more powerful. And that's winning the legal battle here for Daniel Penny.

Well, I just, I look at this story and I think to myself what you said about it, come to your town next. You, this is going against all of human nature. And this is what progressives do. In the end, it's always going against human nature. it is saying that you don't have a right to defend yourself or protect others. And for a guy to stand up, I mean, the thing of this, who was this name Todd Beamer? Wasn't he the guy, the let's roll guy?

All he did was exactly what Todd Beamer did on 9-11, where he was sitting in the plane, the hijackers take over, and he's like, let's go. Come on. It's us or them. And they took him down. and we celebrated. We celebrated that guy. Here's another guy. I don't think he wished him ill. He just wanted to stop him from doing any damage or hassling people.

And we don't have a right to do that. If he loses, you're exactly right. We have to sit there and take it. There's also, I can't remember how long ago it was in New York. Another man was being violent on the subway and getting people's faces. and a man put him in a chokehold and subdued him. And he got interviewed on television as a hero. So something changed or has been changing over the past several years.

And I think, while I can certainly point the finger at these far-left extremists and these Soros DAs and these policies, I think the bigger problem is not that evil exists, but it's that good men do nothing. And so in a place like New York City, I wonder why it is the people of New York City, knowing that crime is getting out of hand, why aren't people protesting for Penny?

That was initially what got me on sort of the negative side of this, like, look, the people of New York City come out and protest to have this man arrested. This is what they want. If the people of New York City wanted something different, they would be standing up for Daniel Penny,

but they don't do it. Now, all that aside, my ultimate conclusion is we need to be that support then. We need to help this man win this legal case, lest it come our way, always be standing up for people who are doing the right thing, lest one day it is you on the firing line and no one's speaking up for you. Well, here's, but I do think it's, go ahead. I was going to say, I think it's interesting that where, where is the shared conviction and moral framework of the American population?

We can see it with this movement to provide resources to Penny For his legal defense, but we don't see it on the ground the way the left does. So not only are the left fundraising like crazy when it comes to political issues, they're out there getting physically violent and organizing massive protests and voter initiatives. And that seems to be the stronger organizational power. We've got to counter that. We've got to wake people up. We've got to tell people that the only thing required for evil to triumph is that good people do nothing.

And we need those good people to stand up. So I think the problem is not that people are unwilling to stand up. They're unwilling to stand up under these conditions because I think the January 6th scared people enough that if they go stand up, there might be an FBI informant there that's going to start something. If the left comes in, starts a fight, they're going to be ones. They're called the terrorists. I think people are much more comfortable being at home. they feel safer being at home giving than they do marching. And that is a problem.

But I don't see a Martin Luther King that is leading that. You know, freedom isn't free. And if this is how we as the American people choose to progress, that is to say the average person says, you know what, it's easier for me to stay home and keep my head down than the next generation, the generation after that, things will just keep getting worse. I think back to the greatest generation. I think back to the men and women who fought in the American Revolution.

These are people who said, if I don't do it, who will? And if I don't do it, what am I leaving from my children? But now it seems very much so that that mentality certainly exists among these leftists who believe crazy things. But the average American, the regular person says, just leave me alone. And this allows the more extreme elements of the left to run rampant. Capture Institutions. And to be honest, I am fairly optimistic, though. I think freedom, personal responsibility, meritocracy, I think all that's going to win.

I think this is just a great challenge before us in our current decade or generation. But I'm pretty sure we got this one. I do. I don't see the chaos of the left functioning properly. There's a fire that is raging, but I think we will stop it. I do. I have a sneaking suspicion that that is true. I wasn't there a year ago.

But I am there now. I mean, it's going to be a race to the finish. And I'm not sure for, you know, I wouldn't want to bet my house on who's going to cross that finish line first. But they are so out in the open now. And the things that they are pushing are so crazy that I just don't think that, Americans will continue to take it. Maybe I'm wrong.

I agree. No, I do think so. I think what we're seeing with Penny, I think this is a sign of people saying, okay, okay, maybe I do need to be active. Because it will come to your house. And I talked about this several years ago.

I said, when the mob is outside protesting and screaming, the police will have a decision. They'll say, do we arrest the man in his home, one man, or do we try to arrest 200 violent rioters? And they're going to say, look, it's easier to keep the peace by arresting the one man. And you know what? We saw that happen in Milwaukee a couple of years ago.

A large group of Black Lives Matter protesters had set, I should say rioters at this point, set fire to a house twice because they were demanding that these two young girls be released, who weren't even there. It was just mob mentality. this same group, mostly the same group, same organizers, showed up to a man's house and began a similar protest. When he brandished his shotgun from inside his own home as a warning to these people, like who had previously burned down a house, I'm not thinking it was the right thing to do. But when he did, the police came to the cheers of Black Lives Matter and arrested the man in his own home and carried him away and they celebrated it. And it was interesting because we said, I thought Black Lives Matter wanted to defund the police.

No, no, no. They want to remove any police who are willing to support American values, self-defense. They arrested a guy in his own house. And I warn people, if you don't stand up, if you're not active, the cops will simply say, look, you don't ever protest. There is no political pressure from you. The violence and the fear that we feel is coming from the far left, so we're going to do what they want. We got to, we got to send a message. We're stopping that.

We're saying, no, no, no, no, no. now we're going to stand up against this and we're going to put pressure in the right way which is through the legal process to put an end to the violence and the chaos good for you Tim thank you so much great to talk to you and keep up the good work thank you for having me you bet Tim pool host of

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Peachy Keenan. Do you know Peachy Keenan? I don't know that I do. Okay, so she's an American editor-contributing editor, and she's got a new book out. She goes under the pseudonym of Pichi Kienin. She does a lot of sarcastic stuff, and she has not come out on who she really is. She's got a new book coming out, I think, in June or July, and that's when she's going to, you know, reveal who she is. but her website is peachy keenan writes.com and she's written an op-ed for the Federalist.

The lesson of Jordan Neely, Your courage and sacrifice will be punished. She, and I'm not sure how much of this is sarcastic, but she talks about what is it? We're teaching our sons. How do we teach our son? What do we teach them? In my world, he was a hero.

He was a hero. He stands up. He is not doing vengeance. He's not filled with anger. He puts him in the right position, puts his head back afterwards to recover. It just, this guy died. Well, sometimes that happens, and it wasn't his intent to do it. now they're they're charging him with with manslaughter. No, we cannot be a society that lives

in fear. Weakness is strength. Courage is hatred. In the aftermath, I tweeted, strong, brave men enough to intervene publicly when deranged lunatics are terrifying people are going to be rounded up first. This is brilliant strategy for the regime. Pick off the bravest and most selfless heroes first, leave the cowards behind, who will fall in line fast. That's Pichi Kienin. I come from that old school where, like, you just, you know, one of the ways to avoid really bad consequences, like the one the guy on the subway wound up dealing with, is to not engage in the behavior that causes them, right?

Like, if you don't want to be arrested, try not to commit crimes. That doesn't mean that there are no... exceptions to that rule. If you don't want to get shot by a police officer, don't run away from police or fight with police officers. Does that prevent every shooting? Does that prevent every terrible thing that might happen? Does that prevent every bad cop from doing something bad? No, but will it eliminate, I don't know, 99.6% of your problems? Sure will. You can't, you can't guard for every single negative consequence. You could get stabbed on the subway, not doing anything.

You could be just sitting there, reading a paper, and get stabbed or attacked, like this guy may very well have done if this guy, the other guy hadn't stepped in and stopped him. But like, if you don't want to get taken down

by somebody who is trying to protect other people on the subway, you should try not threatening people on the subway. Now, this person seemed to be in severe mental distress. And that is a problem that is not the fault of the other people on the subway. No. They don't have to deal with getting stabbed just because he's dealing with mental distress.

That's not their job. Do you remember the name Simon Marshall? You should. Everybody should. He's the guy who pushed the 40-year-old woman in front of the oncoming train at Times Square. Okay? That just happened in 2022. It's severe mental illness that's going on.

and this guy had a long list of criminal convictions, but they didn't put him in jail. And so what does he do? Takes an innocent woman and pushes her into it. If you could have stopped that, you would have. But would you then have been the bad guy? If you had to choke him out, would you be the bad guy from stopping him pushing a woman

right in front of a train in Times Square? And when you have to add that layer of calculation to that moment, a lot of times the good outcome doesn't happen. Right. Right. People just say, I don't want to risk this. They'll probably throw me in prison for saving this person. Correct.

And that's what they're trying to teach us right now. We have Peachy Keenan on with us next. What do we teach our boys? How do we teach self-defense and to stand up for others? We go there in just a minute. Stand by. Glenn Beck program. So Mike Lindell has a special going on.

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I just want to give a few pieces of this. We have Peach Keenan on with us in just a second. She says, weakness is strength, courage, is hatred. In the aftermath, I tweeted strong men brave enough to intervene publicly when a deranged lunatic is terrifying people are going to be rounded up first. It's brilliant. It's a brilliant strategy for the regime. Pick off the bravest and most selfless heroes first. Leave the cowards behind, who will all fall in line fast. The worse is the subway Vikings fate. The worse the Vikings fate is, the less likely any of us, the sane ones,

will be tempted to lift a finger when they come for us, our friends or our neighbors. If the Viking gets 20 years on Rikers Island, plus some prison rapes and beatings for good measure as the guards look the other way, that'll teach you boys a lesson. She goes on to talk about in this terrible, ugly upside-down, zero-trust society. I have been forced to raise a family, and I have developed a new survival rule. I have instructed my husband and son to be cowards. That's right, to do nothing if they are in a situation where dangerous psychos is threatening violence on a stranger. I've begged with them to sit on their hands to be one of the people who just watches, runs away, calls 911, 911. It goes against everything in their bodies, but I want them with me, not dead or in jail.

She said, I feel like I have failed as a mother because I forgot to teach my sons to be cowards. I'm hoping this is sarcasm. But Pichi Keehan is here with us. Hi, Pici. Hi, Glenn. How are you? I'm really good, really good. You have a lot of fans here at the program and also at the Blaze.

So keep it up. Thank you so much. Awesome. I love it. So tell me. I mean, you talk about in this op-ed about your husband, he took on a guy much bigger and this guy was bothering you, and he won the fight and you guys got married. Oh, right. Yeah, I did mention that in that article.

I think he probably would rather I'd not bring that up. But yeah, he did. I was in a situation like that in New York City. There was a very large, very drunk man who was in my face harassing me. wouldn't leave me alone. We were outside a bar at night, you can imagine. And my husband just decided he just acted. And he took the guy down. I mean, you know, he wasn't like harmed that much, but, you know, he maybe got a little bloody nose and he left us alone and we got out of there. And yeah, at first I was sort of horrified because my like, you know, my normal instincts as my,

you know, I used to be this sort of like feminist, you're liberal. And so I was sort of like heart. Oh my gosh, you hurt him, you know? Like, you're not supposed to do that. But then later, I, has he kind of nursed his hand? I was like, you know, that was kind of, wow, that was, that was very macho. Like, okay. Yes, I will marry you. Yeah. I mean, it did sort of impress me a little bit, you know, like, this is a guy who can defend a woman. And that's in short supply these days. And that's what we're supposed to do. But we have destroyed men so much. much that most are not going to get up. They're not. They're going to look the other way, hope somebody else is going to deal with it. And I remember right after 9-11, I flew up to New York.

I was on one of the first flights to New York. And there were only four of us on the plane. And one was this drunk, bad guy. And he stood up and he was arguing with the stewardess. And the other two men that were on board with with me we got up and walked to this guy and the stewardess was like no no no don't i've got it under control and we just looked at this guy like you don't sit down we'll force you to sit down and there was this this feeling of that's what you do i mean todd what was his name todd beamer yeah yeah who ran and and say we don't do that now now we're being taught the exact opposite. Yeah, I mean, for many years, you would get on a plane, and guys I know would tell me,

every time I got on a plane, I'm looking around, and they were like kind of ready, you know, just in case there was another situation. They were ready to do what they had to do, to save their own lives, and to save strangers' lives. But now you can't because you're going to be filmed, and, you know, AOC is going to get the video, and she's going to post it, and she's going to call you a bad guy. And so we live in this upside-down world where, you know, safety is, you know, the only safety that they care about now is their constituents' safety from police, from good guys, from good Samaritans. You know, they want to be safe from hate speech, from racism. But your actual physical safety, just going about your daily life, is no one cares.

Like get pushed in front of a train, you know, a violent psychopath on a subway. You know, those people in that car with Daniel Penny, they thanked him. Right. These were people of color, you know. He, they said it was a situation like no other. They were so grateful he intervened. But yeah, men, like men can't intervene anymore, you know, people have been masculinity, has really been, like, totally neutered.

You know, literally, literally and figuratively, boys have been castrated. I mean, let's just, that's what it is. Mm-hmm. So tell me, what is, what do you think the fate, how do you think this is going to end? You mean, with Daniel Penny? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. I mean, well, it's, what is it, going to a grand jury in a few months? I mean, just based on the witnesses statement, it seems crazy that they would, you know, that they would, you know, even go after him. Yeah, I mean, just, there's no evidence that he did anything, a racist, I mean, obviously, or intended. to hurt him permanently, to kill him, or obviously, it was just this crazy kind of freak accident. And he had, he felt like he had no choice. And his alternative was to sit there,

while this guy punched someone in the face or who knows what he would do. No one knew. No one knew what he would do. You can't predict. And he just, he had a split second to decide and he acted, but, you know, New York City is so crazy. I mean, the fact that they even arrested him after the cops let him go is just tells you how crazy they are. It's all ideological. You know, they had ordinarily the other day with Al Sharpton in the golden casket, just like I predicted. You know, this thing is so predictable how this will play out, just Floyd Part 2, that it makes me very worried. But, you know, luckily he has what, $2.5 million worth of legal aid. So, you know, we'll have to see.

So do you think that a jury in, even in Manhattan, the people of his peers will be people that have run the subways, you know, been on the subways recently, and the subways are terrifying right now. Terrifying. Yeah. Do you think that they would convict him? Yeah, it really depends who he gets. I mean, the whole notion of, quote, a jury of your peers. I mean, that's like such a myth.

Like, that's just gone. Like, think about who's living in Manhattan these days. And his only hope is, like, people who may be kind of typical liberals, Biden voters or whatever, but they're people who are also in the real world who are dealing with these people. on the subways and they may reject the the prosecution's argument totally but you know these people are real dirty they play real dirty and um if they just want to make it about they want to put all white people on trial they want to put all race anything racist that's ever happened on trial and this one guy is the fall guy you know it's sort of like reverse oj so do you think this is

but do you think this is racist? Do you think that they were, the city was afraid of the protesters? Or do you think this is racist or that they are sending a message to everybody? You have no choice but to sit down and take it. Quite a little of both, but I think primarily it's about distracting people from the real villain here, which is the city's total neglect of their giant,

homeless, schizophrenic population, and their complete inability to do anything about it. And so this is their way of pointing the finger at the guy whose fault it is. Meanwhile, Penny is just another victim in all this. And so is Jordan Neely. And the real villain, the real person who should be literally in prison for multiple murders are the authorities who let this happen, who let Michelle go get pushed in front of a train, you know, last year in New York City. who let who lets women get raped and stabbed in New York City on subways in their apartments by

by men that they know about. They have long records. They just let them go. You know, these are the people who, these are the crimes that they should be held accountable for, but they never will. And so instead they just have fat. They found a convenient fall guy. We're talking to Peachie Kian, she is the American editor, contributing editor,

author of a book that comes out next month called Domestic Extremist. one last question are you were you being serious about telling your husband and your son to sit down and don't do anything um you know we've had this exact discussion i mean it's something i live in fear of whenever my teenage sons leave the house you know they're driving around we live in a big city um you know god forbid they run into the wrong the wrong person you know um they they're they're boy scouts you know they've gone they've almost to eagle scout level their their their instinct is to defend and protect and, you know, be good. They're Catholics, they're Christians, their moral. And I've actually had this discussion with them. And just like, if there's a situation

that is going sideways, get out of there. Get out of there. And my son's push back. They're like, well, if there's someone, they're hurting someone, like, I'm going to do something. I'm like, well, look, if it's your little sister, if it's a little kid, like, yes, like that's a situation where maybe you should, you know, put yourself in grave danger. But in a situation, but in a situation between adults, like you just go away before it escalates. Why, you know, why risk the rest of your life? I mean, it's really sad. I mean, it's one of the reasons that it's scary to live in a, in a Soros D.A. run city. It means very terrifying. Thank you so much, Pichi, I appreciate it. We'll talk to you again when your book comes out. Awesome. Thanks so much,

Glenn. You bet. Pitchie Keenan. That is, that's a little terrifying that. That, that, of mine and I understand that. I understand what she just said. I think, yeah, I know I have that same instinct at times. And my thought also was like, let me fight that stuff out at a larger level. If you're in the middle of one of those situations, now again, if you have to protect someone's life, it's another story. But like, if there's some of these situations are just going sideways and you're in a

situation of risk, get to remove yourself from that risk. We'll try to move, we'll try to move society at another moment. but live to try to fight that battle tomorrow. It's an understandable instinct from a parent, I'll tell you that. Do you remember Bernie Gets? Oh, yeah. What mayor, uh, was that Dinkins or was that, uh, Ed Koch? Ed Koch, maybe?

I don't remember what you're, let's see. I mean, it's interesting that we deal with these every time the city goes crazy. Every time there's a Democrat that is in office and they, and they destroy the city. crime goes through the roof and eventually somebody says enough is enough. I'm just no.

I'm not taking it. And Bernard Getz was the last time. When you had when you had Rudy Giuliani in office that wasn't happening. Yeah, it was Ed Koch by the way. Yeah.

1984. And what did he, did he go to jail for it or not? Gosh, it's been so long. I know. I don't remember. Yeah. I have to look back at that.

I thought he didn't. I didn't think so. I think that that's why he asked that question this time. Is a jury of the peers going to put him in jail? And I don't think he did. And his was, you know, pulling a gun on a guy. This one, this one is, I think, even harder to send somebody to jail. He did.

I'm looking back and he did serve time in prison, but for something else, right? He had some other, not, it wasn't for the actual shootings of that day. Wow. Well. It's a little, I have to read back on it. It's been a long time. But one of the situations we're like, look, again, don't try to mug people on a subway. Yeah.

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What are your thoughts as you move closer to the day? It's like the light at the end of the tunnel. What are some of the precursors, like the questions they ask to make sure you're doing it the right reason? Your diagnosis is if it's fatal. How many more months you have. They give you time to consider. They keep stressing the fact that you can always change your mind. What is the actual day like?

I know that they set an appointment, additional injection, putting you to sleep. And the big pain is a prick in the hand to provide for the little valves. And then once you're in a deep sleep, there are two other injections you get. And that's one to go. This is nice. It's painless.

I feel guilty doing this. to my dog. Put my dog to sleep. I feel guilty about that. 100%. Look, it's... Once to stop. Once again, it is just being mainstreamed.

What about the acoustic music behind it, though? Did that change your mind in any way? Well, it was... Are you now pro-killing people? I was against it. But then I heard the acoustic guitar and the really nice singing. Yeah. And now you're like, wow.

You know, they put a lot of thought into this. They've picked thematic music that matches the mood. it probably is okay to just murder people whenever you want. So sad. Thanks to the acoustic guitar. So sad. So depressing.

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How are you, sir? I'm doing well, Glenn. Thanks for having me on. Yeah. We're just about a week away for millions of Americans becoming felons. Yeah, and I have been trying to get an answer on this. I know people who have these guns. and they were purchased absolutely legally. They were legal, everything else.

There's no grandfather clause now. And the ATF is making it a felony as of, is it the end of next week, isn't it? That's right. June 1st, if you own one of these stabilizing braces for a pistol, and it's mounted to a pistol, an AR-15 pistol or something similar, they say you're in possession of a short barrel rifle on that day, unregistered, if you haven't registered and you'll get 10 years in prison if you're convicted. Okay, listen, this is Thomas Massey questioning the ATF director.

Listen. How many days do people have to comply with this rule? So they can always comply, but the initial period... Before they're felons. But the initial period, I believe, ends at the end of... May. Okay, but people are... So we're, and it was 120 days. Is that correct? People are only felons if they intentionally violate the law. I believe it's 120 days from the So we've got 36 days left of the 120 day grace period. Can you tell us here today how many people

have complied by registering this product? I am not sure of the exact number. I can check though and get back to you. There are people who are making applications. There also can be detourable. So in other words, we don't count. We don't, that's not for us to regulate. If somebody simply, we wrote the rule to make it easy to comply with. If somebody just at their home detaches the weapon from the brace and keeps them apart, they do not have to register anything. They can keep the brace.

They can keep the business end of the gun. Okay, that's a great clarification. So you're not going to do some kind of constructive prosecution where you say, oh, you had this and you had that and you intended to connect them? They can just keep them separately. as we as we approach them. Okay.

Because that's not clear in your rules. And what is the punishment if somebody is convicted as a felon under having this piece of plastic? If people are convicted of not fine the gun control act, it's a serious felony conviction.

But that requires intent. Can you just give me the number? Is it 10 years? I don't. I believe it's a statutory maximum of 10 years. 10 years for owning a piece of plastic? So the advice he gave you, that's the first I've heard that advice. It flies in the face of the rule that they have published and the slides that they've put out.

They say that you must permanently remove and dispose of or alter the stabilizing brace such that it cannot be reattached. In other words, the rule says you have to destroy it. But under oath, the ATF director just told us that all you have to do is detach the two. And so he created this. And this is why Congress needs to be writing the laws, not some freaking administrative agency. Because for 10 years, they said this was legal. Now they're going to say it's illegal. And now he just muddied the waters again.

So Jim Jordan and I sent him a letter on May 8th because, as he said, the deadline's June 1st. And he hasn't responded yet. We want him to clarify this. It's important to be clear on laws because people will be convicted of this. So, Thomas, what do you do? Again, I have friends who have these. What do you do? Well, somebody on Twitter told me he hid his in the desert.

Geo-cashire. You know, it depends on. your appetite for non-compliance. Now, I'm not a lawyer and I don't want people to go to jail, but if I did keep these two and I did separate them as the ATF director testified under oath that you could do, I would use that as a legal defense if I were prosecuted. But if you're in a courtroom giving a legal defense, you may have gone too far already. There's a chance. There's a very good chance this will be struck down in the courts. But in the meantime, it is assumed to be the law of the land, even though it's just a rule promulgated by ATF. And what is it they're going to do?

Go door to door to see who has these? Some of my colleagues ask that question. I suspect if they want you for something else, they will use this as an excuse. And here's the other thing, Glenn. It's against the law for the U.S. government to create a registry of gun owners. But that is the remedy that they've suggested. Correct. They said you can register these things. Now, set aside the fact that in 13 states, that's illegal to even register a short barrel rifle.

But they said that you can register these things. You know, do your fingerprints, send in your picture and all of that to the FBI and all, and the background check and the ATF. But now they're creating a registry of millions of gun owners. So I'm so glad you played that testimony of the ATF director. It's so hard to explain the way he bumbled the answer. And may have may have just created a legal loophole for millions of Americans. Again, I'm not a lawyer.

Did you get a response back from the ATF? He said, you know, like 10th of May you wrote to them. Right. Nothing yet. Nothing yet. It's been two weeks and we're one week away from. D-Day, and he hasn't responded. And this, by the way, I signed it as chairman of the subcommittee on the administrative state,

and Jim Jordan signed it as chairman of judiciary. So, you know, this isn't, we didn't tweet this. This is a letter sent on congressional letterhead to the ATF director. He needs to respond. By the way, I'll provide this letter for somebody's legal defense if they need it at some point. Yeah. Well, you know what? I'd love to take it and post it online so people could have it.

So, Thomas, help me out on how we're going to stop this. These guys don't seem to care about Congress. They don't seem to care about the Supreme Court or anyone else. This has got to stop. All of our agencies are way out of control. There's only one way to do it. There's only one way to stop them. The polite letters are not working. I'm convinced they're heating their buildings over there with our letters in wintertime. In Scalia, I had a chance to meet with Antonin Scalia when he was alive, and my colleagues were upset. Because remember, when Obama was president and we were in the majority, they were doing the same stuff. And Scalia said, you're the most powerful branch of government. Use it. And one of my colleagues said, well, it's so hard to implement. impeach somebody. Scalia says, I'm not talking about impeachment. You all fund everything you complain about. So here we are. We're in the majority. All the spending bills originate in the House. We just need to

defund this Bristol Brace rule. Now, our first opportunity to do that will be October 1st. That creates several months of jeopardy. And who knows if that makes it through the Senate. But if we refuse to fund it, they can't fund it in the Senate. So that's what we need to do, defund the rule. and when we talk about defunding we're looking at the budget with joe biden i mean these people are so destructive i i wouldn't put it past them to go into default um and that doesn't mean what everybody in the media is saying but i think they would they wouldn't mind that option do you are are you convinced that McCarthy will stand firm on this? Well, I hope he does stand firm. I don't know

what's going to happen. If it comes back squishy, I ain't voting for it. That's all I can tell you is myself, I won't vote for it. And by the way, when we reach the point at which they can't sell any more of the postal workers' pensions fund, which is what they're doing right now, they're selling the postal workers' pensions fund, liquidating it so they can pay pensions in Ukraine to government workers. But when they run out of that... when they run out of that runway, we still have money coming in enough to service the debt. It would take a conscious decision from Yellen to decide to default on the debt when we reach the ultimate debt limit. She would have to consciously decide not to service the debt because she's going to have enough money to service it.

Absolutely incredible. It's just incredible what's going on. Thomas, one last thing. I'd love to have you on because, you know, you went to MIT. you have several patents behind you. This AI controversy that is going on, I've been warning about AI in the way. I'm both very excited and also at the same time,

very terrified that it means also either the best or the worst and maybe both of them. And we have to have a national conversation about this. And now it appears as though it is growing, too late to have that kind of conversation. How worried are you on AI, not narrow, but general AI, and things that are going on now? You've been at the front of this. I remember many years ago, you were my guests at the State of the Union, and we went out to dinner before the State of the Union.

And you brought this up. It must have been four or five years ago. Yeah. So you've been in front of this. my concern, Glenn, is that the government uses it as the ultimate social tracking tool. It takes work. It takes determined hard work on the part of bureaucrats to make your lives miserable and to spy on you. But with AI, they could automate the whole thing and have 350 million Americans under the watch. They could tell the AI, go out and find all of the URL that Glenn Beck has visited for the last 20 years and be very diligent.

and search every server everywhere. And I can see an AI doing that. So I'm not that concerned about its use in private sector. Now let me put a little postmark on that or a Post-it note because the private sector is working hand and glove with the government. We just found out from the FBI whistleblower that Bank of America released the gun records of everybody who used a Bank of America car to buy a hot dog, between January 5th and January 7th, like they claim the FBI whistleblower claims that Bank of America

volunteered that. So my concern is does AI fall in the hands of the government? We could write laws to stop that and, you know, the government abuses people. But then my secondary concern is the private sector uses AI and contracts for the government. And they think they've found a loophole of the Constitution. Yeah, and that sounds most likely. I mean, I've talked to several people and, you know, They said, well, you know, we could pause it maybe and the government can get involved in laws. And I said, first of all, most of the people up on Capitol Hill don't know how to use their even cell phone. They're so old. You know, who are you going to talk to up there?

And Kamala Harris being in charge of the summit on it is a joke. But I'm not sure that I'm not sure who runs the nation anymore. if it is the government and they have big tech under their thumb or big tech has the government under their thumb. I don't want either of them with this kind of technology. The reality is we have congressional staffers, not the staffers that work for your congressman, but the ones who work for the committees. And a lot of them are good people, but there are detailees that come from the executive

branch to Congress to work inside of these committees. and then you have people who work on K Street or they worked for a big tech company and they come in and they work on these committees, not for any particular congressmen. But that's where most of the laws get written. And I'm afraid that a lot of congressmen are going to defer to these detailees from industry and private business. Yeah. Thomas, thank you so much for everything that you're doing. If you get a response to your letter and if you want to send me that letter, I'd love to post that. but please let us know what's, you know, what's happening on this front. This is, I've never seen our government take so much care to make so many Americans felons overnight.

I need to stop it. I'll send you the letter, Glenn. Thank you very much for covering this. You've been a week away. Thank you. Thanks, Thomas. Bye-bye. Well, that's the closest I've gotten to an answer from anyone.

And it's not an answer. It's not an answer. No, I mean, there's a lot of potential legal answers there at least. And what he said is so even more terrifying. They're not going door to door. He believes that they will, if they want you on something else, they'll come in and check and see if he have this. So this is just a way again to exert power over people.

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occur, you have to still maintain the principle that you had the day before. Yep. You know, and the only thing that will save us is God and the Constitution. That's it. There's no way you can't, you can't cheat either one of those. Can't. No. And of course, you can change the Constitution if you want.

You want to come out and remove the Second Amendment. You can attempt that. You can see how that goes for you. I'm sure it'll go very, very well politically. But even if you were able to do it, you're in a situation where you still have 400 million guns on the streets. You still, I mean, this is just this country, it has a gun culture that if you want to deny in this sort of Sim city world where you're building a country from scratch to solve these problems, you can do it. You can play those games if you want.

I'm sure they're entertaining. But it's not reality. Not what you have here. But see, all you have to do is take first the warriors off the street. Take the people like a guy who's choking out the crazy guy on the subway. Take them out. Get those guys to sit down. Make those people not step up and let whatever happens happen. Correct. Then take people who have guns and just the, you know, just the, you know, not the AR-15s at first, something else that narrows it down to even a smaller pool.

Find something on them. Take that gun away. Now you've got people trained. Don't go and publicly gather together. because January 6th could happen, sit down and shut up and take it, and the people with the guns, you better be careful. These people got 10 years for something that makes no sense whatsoever. Let me ask you, hypothetical.

You offer to Democrats, you say, hey, we will agree to this rule. You get to choose the number. You have to set the age for gun ownership, the same age as you, as voting rights. What number do they say to that? Four?

I think you might be right. I think so. They wouldn't have a problem. If they could get those votes in, they'd be like four. Let them buy a handgun. We'll stop them. I think you might be right.

Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Fascinating. They keep saying it's the biggest problem out there. I don't know that I believe them. I don't know that I believe they even believe that guns are the real problems in our society.

And they certainly don't believe that white people are the biggest problem. They just think the whole culture and the Constitution is the biggest problem out there. All right, back in just a minute. The Glenn Beck Program. In Land of Lakes, Florida, Tunnel to Towers Foundation, is building a community called the Let Us Do Good Village.

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for raising concerns that the Justice Department leadership was acting inappropriately on the investigation into Hunter Biden. So what these guys, this is the second now, what they're saying is that the Justice Department came in and said, yeah, you guys don't need to look at all of that stuff. And they're like, excuse me, we're the IRS. We are looking at all the banking stuff and all the money stuff. You don't really need to. And then that whole staff was let go.

This guy is now coming forward and he is going to be giving testimony on Friday. Our client learned that one of the agents he supervises. So this is not a low-level guy. This is a supervisor at the IRS. The case agent on the case, our client is blowing the whistle on, sent you an email on Thursday in which the IRS case agent raised concerns about the Hunter Biden investigation. That's what the lawyers wrote in a letter. But the IRS leadership quickly responded with accusations of criminal conduct and warnings to other agents in an apparent attempt to intimidate into, silence anyone who might raise any similar concerns. So in this, Congress is saying, you've got to stop

harassing these whistleblowers. It's got to stop now. Now, the FBI has just failed yesterday to sign over a document that whistleblowers say the FBI have, which is showing a criminal scheme involving Vice President Joe Biden and a foreign national. They won't admit to having it or admit to not having it. It's just part of an ongoing investigation, and we can't really comment on that. So Congress, which oversees the FBI, Congress has said, you have to produce this. they said first by May 3rd, May 3rd, you got to release it May 3rd. Then they said by yesterday, they were going to have a closed door meetings with the FBI,

so we want to see that at the closed door meetings. They still won't produce it. So now, I guess the House Oversight and Accountability Committee are going to, what, I don't know, maybe another sternly worded letter or I'm not sure but they're backing Congress into a corner and I just I don't know I'm starting to have hope that there are enough people in Congress at least I don't know about the Senate but in the Congress that they're going to fight their way out of this they're not going to take this for so long there's been that belief that eventually Congress would step up and take the power that they have.

They have to. Right? Like, I mean, we've talked about the Raines Act with Mike Lee recently. And by the way, that is in, if it's left in there, that the Raines Act is in the budget deal.

That would be massive. It would be a really, really big improvement to our government and our country. It basically would limit them from making these little rules that no one votes on. That what's a hundred million dollars in effect? Yeah. It should be so obvious. that you shouldn't need a new act to do it.

But if you're going to affect the economy by $100 million or more, you have to get a vote of approval. You can't just do it willy-nilly. Yeah, it pretty much takes away the power of the administrative state to do things like the ATF is doing right now. You can't just make up laws. The laws are created by Congress. And this is so, I mean, you talk about the Constitution

and the important. of it all the time, but it's so important because what people have done have decided, they've decided, you know what, we want things, we can't have the things by these rules. So let's come up with new rules. The Raines Act is a good example

of this where they just decided, well, we'll just give all the power to the administrative state and we'll just let them make all these rules up. Therefore, we don't have to go through all the trouble of the vote and the debate and exposing this to the American people. We might get voted out. Let's give the we'll give the responsibility

for those things to other people and let them do it without a vote without any approval. You know, the Soros DAs are another great example of this. We can't get people to approve laws that just let violent criminals out of prison. So what if we instead spend a bunch of money? It's a very effective process financially because you don't have to spend that much money to win a local DA election. Spend a much of money, get some local DA elected and then tell them, ignore all the laws. ignore them. You have prosecutorial discretion.

So just don't do any of it. Just bend that rule to the millionth degree. And then go out there and ignore all the laws that have been passed. You don't want criminals to go to jail? Fine. You want sanctuary cities? Fine. Just ignore all that stuff.

Who cares if those are laws? And so they've decided to try to go around the Constitution and around the rule of law by doing these things. It's happened in the executive state. It's happened on a state-by-state basis, as localized as cities. And this is their plan. They've given up trying to actually win these debates. They've just decided to go around them and wait for you to think it's normal. And then they don't have to win the debate.

Well, hopefully the Raines Act will be left into this bill. But I don't know what's going to be left into the bill. We're talking about the bill on the debt ceiling. You know, I'm watching McCarthy, and he seems rock solid on this. You know, they always started too late. We've been telling the Republicans since November that they had the guy to do. And this time, it's the Republicans, because the first thing McCarthy did when he got in was send a letter to the White House. We have to start working on this right now because there are some things that we are.

not going to approve. So we need to start negotiating. And now the Democrats are behind the eight ball. Yeah, what did McCarthy say? They did not negotiate for 97 days after it was initially proposed. Right. And what's so silly about this, they keep saying, well, well, we don't want to set the precedent that we have to negotiate every time we need a debt ceiling increase. That would be crazy. What? Why? Why? Well, why, first of all? And if you're telling me that the default is so terrible, right? It's the worst thing out there. And I do agree it would be catastrophic if we went to default. But we won't. We shouldn't, right?

We won't. It just requires Congress and the secretary of the treasury to sit down and select what's going to be paid and what's not going to be paid. Right. And you'll have a long road there. Now, you shouldn't even get to that point, of course, because the Republicans have put out a bill that is pretty sensible. I mean, it has minor, minor cuts in our government spending, not even cuts. They're just cuts in the future increases. they're not even cuts.

They're cuts to the future increases of spending. It is not, we're going back to what, 2019 spending levels in a lot of these categories. Oh, no. This is not that catastrophic. It's not that ridiculous. But for us to default, the Democrats would have to say

that these minor cuts to future increases is worse for the country than default. Because they have an option. There's been a bill that's our, even passed by Republicans. It's already been passed. All they have to do is get on board with it. So if they thought that this was worse than default, then perhaps it would be sensible for us to go into default. But obviously, it's not worse than default. So just get in there and negotiate something out that's in between. We get that the Republicans might not get everything that they want,

but find out a place to settle this. Because they keep saying, well, you know, if we don't, if we negotiate, that that's going to encourage future negotiations around. on the debt ceiling. Yes. Well, yeah. That's the whole point of the debt ceiling. The point of the debt ceiling

is like a gut check and saying, hey, guys, you keep bumping up against this number that has trillion in it. Maybe instead you should think about how to get a little bit more fiscally responsible.

And instead, they're like, well, we're just going to, we're basically going to show them by defaulting. We're going to show them. We don't want to default so much that we're going to just default. Well, that's an inane argument.

What do you think he's going to do? Do you think he's going to negotiate and come to something or you think he's going to just play hardball and go, nope, no negotiation, because that's where he's at. No negotiation. He seems to be weakening a little bit on that. And I do think eventually we will get to a place where Republicans will be able to claim a little bit of a win. Democrats will say we didn't give them everything that they wanted. They held us hostage. They're bad people. They're mean. And eventually we get this. I will say it is May 23rd. Now, I don't believe the June 1st date. The June 1st date is not true, but fundamentally, it could be true if the right number of people pushed in a direction that was hurtful to the United States. I mean, people with bad intent could make that date true.

As you point out, Glenn, they can stop funding turtle tunnels for a while and give us extra days. There's a lot of things they can stop funding instead of not paying our debt. And I think their argument based on the 14th Amendment where they say, well, it says in the 14th Amendment, our debts are, you know, we have to pay them. So we have to pay them. Well, that would indicate that they would have to not pay a bunch of other stuff before they got to not paying the debt. Right. Like, it's just like in your own household. Hey, we have the kids summer camp budgeted here, but we don't have enough money to pay the rent.

Which one do we pay? You don't pay the summer camp thing first. And then you get to the place. Lots of summer camps. Now, according to Joe Biden, there is literally not one dollar we can cut from this budget. You know, what's really weird is because that's what Nancy Pelosi said years ago. The cupboards are bare. Nothing to cut.

And then we added like $7 trillion and it's still bare? Yeah, apparently that was all very necessary. I mean, everyone knows, of course there's money to save. You might even say that there are important programs that you like, but still, every organization has waste. I mean, waste would at least buy us some time. But, you know, non-essential programs would also buy us a lot more. And so there is more time than June 1st.

But it is, you know, a little, it's a little close. You kind of like to get this thing settled. And maybe put in a little bit of a harder cap for next time. Maybe put one, put a cap out there that's a few years in the future that says we actually shouldn't get to this, guys. Let's try not, let's not worry about the negotiation next time when we get there. Let's come up with a plan to not hit it next time. Maybe we go the other way. Maybe instead of increasing the debt every single time, we go the opposite way and decrease it. What do you think about that idea? I know it's wild and crazy. But maybe that was more fundamental

to what the founders were talking about with the 14th Amendment than what you're doing here. Or you're just increasing it all the time and yelling at people when they ask you to spend a little bit less? Well, I just don't think we can spend less, Stu. I just don't think that's even possible. Covers are bare. Uh-huh. Here's our commercial sponsor, this half hour.

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through the gates at the White House in like a big U-Haul truck. Apparently he's a Nazi. Yeah, they the law enforcement authorities took out the stuff from inside of his truck. Now, hang on just a second. They're at the White House?

It was outside the White House. Yeah, why would you take that out? I mean, look at the Nashville shooter. We can't even get the document. We don't know anything about it. Why would they open up and just put it out on the ground? You kind of put it on the ground to display for the media looking on in case they wanted to just see what it was. That happens all the time.

I remember that happening. Very normal. Very normal. Anyway, go ahead. And one of the things this apparent white supremacist had on him was a Nazi flag with a swastika and such. Man, I hate these white supremacists. Yeah. What's this guy's name?

Billy Joe Bob. Billy Joe Bob Jones Bob? Yeah. No. No. It's a sci. Sci. Varshith.

Varshith. Candula. Candula. This according to Carol Markowitz. That sounds like somebody from Nebraska. Sy. Sci. Varshift.

Candula. Yeah. Yeah. And I've seen his photo. He would stand out at a white supremacist gathering. Really? I would he? There might be some conversations going on there.

Well, you know what? But the new KKK is completely different to it. You know? They have a, you know, the whole, tried to redo the whole, you know, KKK thing. They have tried to remake these organizations To be more accepting apparently With much success Right

This is working Yeah because you've got all of the minorities Joining this white supremacy group Yeah Do we have the Yeah go ahead and play this You remember The new KKK

Yeah New KKK We love the color It's Jews and gays We don't lynch them per se It's the new KKK way Yeah see this makes total sense Yeah this fits

With that remaking. Right. Remaking of the KKK. Now, you would ask yourself, why would a white supremacist group want members that are not white? Right. You'd think that would lead to several awkward conversations. Yeah, it might be a little. We're glad you came.

Yeah. Thank you for the Sabaro you brought. But, but just, you know, in the future, we'd appreciate you being more white. Yes. You know, if you were to join our organization. I mean, there is a reason these guys might not be white and they're allowing them to join is. Well, sure. If, you know, maybe enrollment is down.

Well, no, because I've told it's like the number one threat to the country. So everyone's way up, I think. It's got to be way up. What is it? I'd like to hear. Maybe tomorrow we'll go to KKK members and ask them because they're everywhere, I hear. Everywhere. Apparently so.

I just feel like they should... You know, there was a time where they had real standards at the KKK. They usually wanted their people to be white. To be white. And they now are just opening this up and opening the doors to everyone. We don't know it's a KKK. This might have been a Nazi white. I guess it was a Nazi.

But I don't remember a lot of Jews. Right. You know. Like that stood out to me that they really wanted people to look a certain way. Yeah. And it's weird. The Glenn Back Program.