The Glenn Beck Program - The Looming War of Ones and Zeroes | 6/17/19

Episode Date: June 17, 2019

Hour 1: President Trump criticizes a New York Times report that reveals America’s response to the threat of Russian cyber-attacks against the U.S. power grid …Vladimir Putin was spot-on when he said that World War III will be fought with ones and zeroes …Don’t keep giving power to different authorities when it comes to homeland security …You don’t actually own the songs or movies that you buy from iTunes – Those files can be erased at will by the rights-holder … Could politically incorrect books, songs and other media be wiped out in one fell swoop? …Glenn returns to the 1994 Family Proclamation, an affirmation of marriage being between a man and a woman and that the family plays a central role in God’s plan. Hour 2: The President has fired his team of pollsters after polls showing him losing to several Democrats were leaked to the media …Elizabeth Warren is another Hillary Clinton, with one exception, she doesn’t hide her radical socialist policies …The high-end Democrats will support Joe Biden because he’s traditional, but America doesn’t want another traditional candidate …Digital erasing is much more effective than book burning – When’s the last time anyone has heard from Alex Jones? …Who will be the casualties of history amid the politically correct onslaught from the Left? Hour 3: We knew it all along that the Democratic Socialists would come out of the woodwork, and now their radicalism is getting them elected …None of our nation’s youth have learned about the failure of the Soviet Union or the socialist experiments that took place (and failed) in America …Glenn returns to his conversation with Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay about atheism and new-age religion …In this new age, hate speech is blasphemy, privilege is depravity, and “woke-ness” is being born again …Why is no one looking at the big picture of cryptocurrency? It’s all the influence of institutional money. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. Well, welcome to Monday. Hello, America. Looks like we're in trouble with Russia now. Thank you, New York Times. New York Times ran a story that the president has said is treasonous. I don't agree with him on that. I'm actually happy to read this, that we're actually doing something about it.

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going to start by talking about what was in the New York Times. I don't know if you read it or you just read the headlines, but the New York Times has come out with something that the president says is treason. And I guess I can understand that, but I don't agree with it because it was all vetted, apparently, and it states it in the article through the State Department and the NSA and John Bolton. but here's what here's the basic um gist of the story let me just give you the first paragraph the United States is stepping up digital incursions into Russia's electric power grid in a warning to president Putin in a demonstration of how the Trump administration is using new authorities to deploy cyber tools more aggressively current and former government officials say now this is the problem with it they say it's current and form form of

former officials, and so it's the unnamed sources. In interviews over the past three months, the officials described the previously unreported deployment of American computer code inside Russia's grid and other targets as classified companion to a more publicly discussed action directed at Moscow's disinformation and hacking units around the 2018 midterm elections. Advocates for the more aggressive strategy say it's long overdue after years of public warnings from the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI that Russia has inserted malware that could sabotage American power plants, oil and gas pipelines, or water supplies in any

future conflict within the United States. Okay, this to me is good news. This to me is something that we have been talking to you forever about. We have been begging someone in the government to pay attention to this. Putin says that we are already in World War III. He made this announcement to a group of Western reporters, oh, probably about four years ago. And he said, the governments of the West just don't understand it yet. But the next war is going to be all ones and zeros. And so there's not going to be necessarily bombs falling from the sky with us. They will shut off the electric grid.

Now, imagine if you fry our electric grid, the chaos that would ensue just in a week. but if you could find a way like an EMP to destroy us, 95% of all Americans die within the first year if you just keep our electricity off. Let me say that again. If Russia could find a way to keep our electricity off, 95% of the U.S. population dies within the first 12 months. Now, that is quite a statement. that's much more powerful than any nuclear weapon.

And all you have to do is just lob a few ones and zeros over our way. Russia has already said that this is the way we will fight World War III. I don't know if we're going to fight World War III. I hope we don't. But the only thing that kept the world in balance was mutually assured destruction. Now, this does not work in cases like, like Iran. Mutually assured destruction does not matter to them because they are trying to, now this is very controversial to say, and I know a lot in the media will disagree with this,

but all you have to do is read their words and take people at their word. When they say they're going to kill you, you should take them at their word. It's the reason why in 99 I saw Osama bin Laden as a threat and said that he would blow up buildings and there would be body and blood and buildings in the streets of Manhattan before the next decade, or I said the next 10 years, and it would have Osama bin Laden's name on it. It was called crazy at the time, but it was not a prediction. It was looking at his words and saying, this is what he says he's going to do. Let's believe him and prepare. We didn't. Same thing with, same thing with ISIS and the caliphate. We didn't take them seriously. You have to take Iran seriously. They believe that if they can cause chaos by shutting down

or destroying America and Israel, they will hasten the return of the promised one. Think of it as, you know, bringing, think of it as a group of crazy Christians who are like, you know what, I'm tired of waiting for the second coming. So I'm just going to make sure that I help cause Armageddon. that's what the Iranians believe they are compelled to do so let's take them seriously the reason why they won't care about this is because they are cave dwellers and I don't mean that as literal as as it sounds what I mean is their system is not as advanced as ours when's the last time you use cash Think of that. When's the last time you said, I got to go to the bank and get cash? When's the last time you filled up your tank

and went inside and gave cash to the guy? Or to the woman, I'm so sorry for making that awful stereotype. We rely on a system that replenishes our supermarket shelves 12 times a day. There are deliveries coming to the average supermarket, 10 to 12 times a day. You cancel that for three days and our supermarket shelves are empty. You cut our electricity off and we have no cash. You cut our electricity off.

You cut our communications out. We can't communicate with one another. We have no idea what's going on. We can't call 911. The world falls into chaos. the people who are living, you know, more like the 1970s even, don't have as much to lose. Those in Afghanistan that really have spotty electricity, they don't care at all. Russia is probably one of the only ones that we can keep at bay with mutually assured destruction.

China probably doesn't care as much, although it is their cities are so controlled. now by electronics, they are probably starting to care more and more. But the mass population of China won't see a difference if the modern world goes away. Advocates of the more aggressive strategy says it's long overdue, quoting the New York Times, after years of public warnings from the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI, but it also can carry significant risk of escalating the daily digital Cold War between Washington and Moscow. Guys, we're not starting this. We're not hacking into their elections.

They hacked into ours. The administration declined to describe specific actions it was taking under the new authorities. Now listen to this, which were granted separately by the White House and Congress last year to the United States Cyber Command, the arm of the Pentagon that runs the military's offensive and defensive, offensive and defensive operations in the online world. Stu, write this down. We have to do a show on cyber command. But in a public appearance Tuesday, President Trump's national security adviser, John Bolton, said the United States was now taking a broader view of potential digital targets as part of an effort to say to Russia or anyone else, quoting, that is engaged in cyber operations against us, you will pay a price, end quote.

Power grids have been a low-intensity battleground for years. Since 2012, current and former officials say the United States has put reconnaissance probes into the control systems of the Russian electric grid. But now the American strategy has shifted more towards offense, officials say, with the placement of potentially crippling malware inside Russian systems at a depth and with an aggressiveness that has never been tried before. It is intended partly as a warning and partly to be poised as a direct cyber strike, if a major conflict broke out between Moscow and Russia. The commander said that it's time to defend forward.

They don't fear us, he said to the Senate a year ago during his confirmation hearings, but finding way to calibrate those responses so they deter attacks without inciting dangerous escalation has been the source of constant debate. Mr. Trump issued new authorities to cyber command last summer in a still classified document known as, as the National Security Presidential Memorandum 13, giving General Nacchason far more leeway to conduct offensive online operations

without receiving presidential approval. So when people said, well, the president probably didn't know about it, could be, could be, because he gave this far-reaching authority to Cyber Command last summer. The action inside the Russian electric grid

appears to have been conducted under little-known new legal authorities. Listen to the way this is slipped in to the military authorization bill passed by Congress last summer. This is why we don't do those big omnibus. The measure approved the routine conduct of clandestine military activity in cyberspace to deter, safeguard, or defend against attacks or malicious cyber activities against the United States. Now, I'm wondering if that gives them the authority to do that in country or only out of the country. Under these laws, these actions can now be authorized by the defense secretary without presidential approval. This is bad. This is really bad. You don't keep giving power to different authorities. I don't know when we're going to get that, but nobody in Washington

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grid, officials of the National Security Council also declined to comment, but said that they had no national security concerns about the details of the New York Times reporting about the targeting of the Russian grid, perhaps an indication that some of the intrusions were intended to be noticed by the Russians. Of course they were. Of course they were. Do you really, do you honestly think that that we are that we're better off by making sure that the Russians don't know anything. If so, why did the Russians release the tape of the hyper speed missile? Happened two weeks ago. If you see it, it's like a bullet coming out of a gun.

It is not like a missile coming out of the ground. It's unbelievable. Why did they want the world to see that? They wanted to see what we were, we wanted, they wanted us to. see what they were doing as a warning. So some of this stuff is a warning. Now, so far, there's nothing in this article that is surprising. And I wouldn't be surprised if the president trying to keep his negotiation power is, uh, is doing two things. One, playing the innocent, I didn't know anything about that. I had no idea about that. He signed it. He signed it. He, he,

knows about it. But this gives him, you know, some, some possible credibility when sitting down at the table with Moscow of, I, you know what, Vlad, a little out of control there. I'll talk to him. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but that may be what he was doing there. Also, the president is fighting for his life on an election. And I'm sure Stu will get into the election results that we have seen now, the polling number. not too good for the president, and he's got to win. And he knows that the press is doing everything they can to destroy him. Personally, I think that this is good.

If I were the president, I would have come out and said, you know what, damn right. Damn right, we're doing that. These guys meddled in our elections, but the press has already set a trap up for him on that. They meddled with our elections. They've already said we're on World War III. We don't want to be in World War III.

but we will be prepared. And we know that they have already done these things to us. And so, yes, our cyber command is up and running. And I feel pretty good about that. And Americans should sleep well because we are protecting this country. We're doing everything we can. And the one thing I have control over is cyberspace. And so we are working to protect this country.

Now I'd like to get to work and protect this country from our southern border. and what's happening there. There's disease that is starting to run out of control. We could fix this quickly, get the Democrats to sit down at the table. I think that would have been a good way for him to handle this. Now, with this being said, I want to couple this with what we have learned from the last couple of weeks. Here we have a known enemy that is trying to cripple us. We know that if World War III, God forbid, ever does break out.

We know that the life that we currently live will be disrupted. It may not be over, but it will be disrupted. We hope that our people can disrupt them faster than they can disrupt us and get us back onto our feet. But we know that this is coming, if not in our lifetime, our children's lifetime. and it's going to be a big burden. Everything we have, everything we have is digital. Now, that's not the only threat to everything we have. The other threat is political.

The other threat is also digital, but it is political. Look how fast we could all be erased. Look how fast history could be erased, because almost everything now is online. How many actually read a book? And by the way, any book that was written after, anywhere between 1880 and 1920, the paper was changed and it will eventually turn to dust.

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It's Monday. And I want to talk to you about some things. And this is all going to be taken out of context. This is all going to be made into conspiracy theories, et cetera, et cetera. Pay no attention to that. Always, always go to the original source and listen in context. So whatever this is going to turn into, you know, through the media, whatever. Tell your friends, always go back to the original source.

and and listen. But I feel compelled and have been for a while, but I haven't, I haven't known how to talk to you about this. And I just decided, you know, last week, I'm just going to do it. So I want to make it really clear. What I talked about here at the beginning of the show was what's happening with Russia and the United States in cyber ops.

And they are looking for ways to, be able basically to shut our power off and we're looking for a way to shut their power off in God forbid a nuclear, I mean, sorry, a cyber war. Putin has already said World War III would be fought with ones and zeros. He says we're already in World War III. They're already trying to make us doubt our elections by hacking in. We know that they did this in Chicago. We know people have penetrated our power grid. Are we doing anything about it? New York Times came out and said, yes, we are.

The president was upset about this, but I don't think he should be. I think this is a sign of real strength. I'm glad to know we're doing cyber operations. But there is another way for things to be destroyed, and that is political correctness. And we're already seeing this happening with the silencing of voices, and it's getting worse and worse and worse. And I want you to know that it's not like any other time before where if somebody said something and and you know Hitler wanted to, you know, make sure that they weren't heard from again, all you had to do was hide their books or hide their printed speeches or whatever.

Now you don't have any books. You don't have any printed speeches. Most people have everything digital. So when you want to ban Stephen Crowder, if they wanted to ban Stephen Crowder, all of his stuff is up on YouTube. They own the rights to it. By putting things on YouTube and by putting things on Facebook, if it's first run, they own the rights. So everything that you've ever put on Facebook or YouTube or any of these things, you don't own anymore. And so if they want to erase you, it's gone.

Think about all of your pictures that you have. You have a most likely downloaded on a computer. If that, God forbid, we are hit by some cyber weapon, all of that history is gone. So what are you going to do? We need to preserve things because there are two fronts that we're fighting on. One is an insane cyber attack, which I hope will never happen. I don't, I wish I could say I don't think it will, but I don't know anymore. But an insane global cyber attack, which would affect all of us in the world in a horrible way and millions, hundreds of millions of people would die.

The second is just 1984 or Brave New World where things just start to disappear. You don't actually own the movies that you buy from, you know, iTunes. they have those movies, they have those songs, and they have rights to those songs, and they have to renew those rights. If, for instance, and this is going to happen, Disney says,

we're going to start our own service, and so, you know what, you can't buy any Disney things over at iTunes. You have to buy them from us. When those rights expire, those titles that were Disney Marvel, they will just disappear from your catalog. You paid for them.

You bought them. but you don't own them. It's actually a rental system. So if you want to destroy somebody and they become politically incorrect, you just erase them. So what does that mean for books? What does that mean for movies? What does that mean for songs? What does that mean for anything or anybody that is deemed politically incorrect?

I think we need to save them, preserve them. And I think we need to hold them in non-digital form because I think you could lose everything quickly. And even if it's just political in nature, look at what's happening in Great Britain. In Great Britain, it's becoming illegal to say the truth. It's becoming illegal to even joke. You can't now. Stu, what was the story today? from Great Britain where you can't have any kind of dangerous stereotypes.

I love that because they never defined that. Dangerous stereotypes in any advertising. Yeah, they gave, I think, six months lead time for these companies to figure out how to avoid all their dangerous stereotypes. And they talk about how it's like you can show a man working hard in a construction field. That's okay. But it's not okay to then.

say, well, he doesn't know what he's doing around the house. And when I first heard that, I'm like, well, so they're protecting men, so it looks like they're not incompetent? No, what that means is that only women know what they're doing around the house. And that's why it's bad, because women can't be shown to, you know, only be capable of doing these household chores. And like, you know, I don't know what year it was. We used to do these things on Pat and Stu all the time, these old-timey, like, 1940s, you know, ads where it really was sexist. I mean, hardcore sexism.

Really, though, the only time you see that now, I mean, guys are constantly portrayed in these ads as being completely incompetent boobs that don't know how to do anything. Right, that's not dangerous. That's not a dangerous. That's not a dangerous stereotype. No. Yeah. So, I mean, you can't, like they showed another example of, you can't say that a woman

is a bad driver, right? If you show a woman driving poorly, that means that you're perpetuating that negative stereotype and that would be that would be wrong and is banned now. I mean, first of all, you have a moment of, wow, you know, this First Amendment thing was a good idea. I'm kind of glad we kept it. But I thought the exact same thing when I read it. I thought the same thing. Boy, are we lucky we have the first and second and all of the amendments. Right. Because that could have taken it away quickly. It's the only thing stopping this from being the United States, right? I mean, like culturally, we are completely there.

They would be absolutely out here banning every bit of hate speech. And many of these companies are doing it anyway. There's not, they can't do it through the government right now. But I mean, this is this complete reality for us. And the only thing protecting it is the First Amendment. And even that is, you know, as, you know, has been discussed. Sketchy, yes, at this point. Yeah, sketchy.

And then there's also the, the, just the simple truths of live. For instance, Pat. there's a new My Little Pony series that's coming up. Yeah, this week, a couple of new characters are going to be introduced to the My Little Pony Discovery Family Channel. And they're going to be a new lesbian couple. And to avoid any ambiguity whatsoever, the writer of the cartoon came out and said, because he didn't want anybody to be confused, he tweeted out, they are lesbians diversity and representation

are important for kids for so many reasons and it's my first priority on everything I work on my little pony has always been about friendship and accepting people or ponies that are different from you so it just felt like something important to do how about how about not presenting well let's let's present zero characters based on sexuality for children

how about that are any of the little ponies heterosexual? No, because they've never talked about any kind of sex going on. As far as I know on my little ponies. So why is this important? And the fact is, it isn't. In fact, it's important not let our kids be kids. Can you not just leave that to us? And we'll explain that when the time comes. And we'll talk to them about that. No, because you're a, no, because you're a hater. Right. You're a hater. And there are too many haters. Let me give you something here that has to be preserved. And I don't care what religion you are. This came out in 1995 and it was issued as a warning of what was coming and a stance to

make sure that people knew that these things were God ordained. Now, this particular document has been used now by Pope Francis. Francis took some of these out. other religions are starting to take pieces of this out in, I think, 2016, Francis asked for this document and then did one of his communication, you know, one of his big, I don't know what they call, but declarations from the Pope based on this. This came from my church. We solemnly proclaim that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God and that the family is central to the creator's plan for the internal destiny of his children. All human beings, male and female, are created in the image of God. Each is a beloved spirit, son, or daughter of heavenly parents,

and as such, each has a divine nature and destiny. Gender, now this is in 1995. Gender is an essential characteristic of individual, premortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose. In the premortal realm, spirit, sons, and daughters, knew and worship God as their eternal father and accepted his plan by which his children could obtain a physical body and gain earthly experience to progress towards perfection and ultimately realize their divine destiny as heirs of eternal life the divine plan of happiness enables family relationships to be perpetuated beyond the grave sacred ordinances and covenants available blah blah blah blah blah the first commandment that god gave to adam and eve pertain to their potential for parenthood as husband and wife we declare that God's commandant for his children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force. We further declare that God has commanded that the sacred powers of procreation are to be employed only between man and woman lawfully wedded his husband and wife. We declare the means by which mortal life is created to be divinely appointed. We affirm the sanctity of

life and it's important in God's eternal plan. Husband and wife have a solemn responsibility to love and care for each other and for their children. Children are a heritage of the Lord. Psalms 127. Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness. Hang on just a second. To provide for their physical and spiritual needs and to teach them love and serve one another, observe the commandments of God and be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husband and wives, mothers, and fathers will be held accountable

before God. The family is ordained by God. Marriage between a man and a woman is essential to his eternal plan. Children are entitled to birth within the bonds of matrimony and reared by a father and mother who honor marital vows with complete fidelity. Happiness and family life is most likely to be achieved when founded upon the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ. Successful marriages and families are established and maintained on principles of faith, prayer, repentance, forgiveness, respect, love, compassion, work, and wholesome recreational activities. By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide for the necessities of life and protection of their families.

Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children. In these sacred responsibilities, fathers and mothers are obligated to help one another as equal partners. Disability, death or other circumstances may necessitate individual adaptation. Extended families should lend support when needed. We warn that individuals who violate these covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring or who have failed to fulfill family responsibilities, will one day stand accountable before God. We further warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations, the calamities foretold. The calamities foretold. by ancient and modern prophets.

We call upon responsible citizens and governments and officers of governments everywhere to promote these measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as a fundamental unit of society. In 1994, everyone said, what the heck is that all about? Look at it now. And I guarantee, just by reading it on the air, there will be people that will come out and say, look at this fundamentalist monster. Things like that must be preserved because things like that are true and they are going to come under attack.

Go look for it in Wikipedia. You'll find the story about it, but you won't find the text, which I thought was interesting because if I look for the Declaration of Independence, I find the text as well as the story. these things will be erased and we must preserve them and I want to get into that next hour more in just a second by the way that's called the family proclamation

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We're just talking about how crazy the world has become so rapidly. And, you know, when you look, when you go back and you look at this new ban in England on commercials, where they can't have any dangerous. stereotypes, which they don't define, so it'll just, you know, remain in limbo. Uh, what does that mean? Yeah. What does that mean for the future? What does that mean for the Gillette ad that the left loves so much?

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Entertainment and enlightenment. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Glad you're here. It is Monday. There was some breaking news about the poll numbers this weekend that don't look good for the president. And the president fired his pollsters. And again, it doesn't look good. But the good thing is, is we have one of, I believe, the leading guys on polls.

His name is Stu Bregear. And he lives. polls. He eats, drinks, statistics. He loves it. And he has been historically very, very accurate in the way he reads polls and the polls that we should pay attention to and not pay attention to. So I wanted to get his read on what is really happening with the polls and is the president in as much trouble as the press would have you believe. We do that in one minute. Glenbag program. Okay, so people ask me all the time, what can I do? What can I do? What can I do to help save the

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I mean, no. I would say right now you have to put a, they're legitimate internal polls. And there's some external ones. The ones you're talking about with Elizabeth Warren and stuff are largely external. There's a lot that show him losing. But, A, it's way too early to take anything serious out of these polls. I mean, it's important for the campaign to understand where they are and kind of be able to plan for the future.

You know, he hasn't even officially really started running for president yet. He's not tested any of his new messaging. He's done none of these things. I think kind of one of the important things you're seeing in the media is people basically saying Donald Trump is firing his pollsters because they showed him losing as if like he's, you know, he, if they were showing a winning, he would have loved it. Right. Exactly.

And that's not what this was. Look, you know, they were internal polls. We shouldn't know about them, right? They're supposed to be hidden. And yes, he was losing a lot of these states in these internal polls. Initially, Trump kind of said those polls don't exist. Then his campaign confirmed that they do, but they were from March. So they're outdated already anyway.

But beyond that, like, the issue here is that they shouldn't be out in the public. They're supposed to be things used for internal use, right? So the reason why these people are getting fired is because they believe the leaks came from these pollsters. They believe these people went out there, took these polls, realized that the Trump administration was, never going to let them out and decided to leak them out. That's a huge problem if that's true. You have to be able to trust your team. And so now there's another theory out there. He really can't trust anybody. I mean, I feel bad for the president in some ways. He cannot trust a single person. No, I mean, that was interesting in that with Sarah Huckabee Sanders leaving.

That was one of the people, you know, she hasn't been doing a lot of press conferences. however she's become a pretty central advisor to him and one of the few people that he believed he could trust. I mean, Bill O'Reilly, as you pointed out, said nobody. He can trust nobody. He trusts literally zero people, maybe outside of, certainly outside of family. Maybe some of his family he trusts, but that's about it. But the issue here with these polls is that this is not, you know, there are some things you can learn from polls this early. You can usually find indications as to what's possible, but we know in 18 months anything can happen here.

There's no reason to panic from these numbers at this point. I think he could win. I think it's not hyperbole. You know better than I do on this stuff. And I'm always wrong when it comes to politics and predictions. But I think it's so open. He could win by a landslide. I mean, a Reagan-style landslide.

He could lose by a landslide. It's that open. I think all those things are certainly in play. I mean, you go back to, you know, George H.W. Bush at this time was an incredibly popular president and wound up losing his reelection. We've seen, you know, Clinton did not look good at this time in, you know, in 1992 and came back, or in 1996 and came back in one. So these things change all the time. It's way too far out.

I mean, the one thing I think you can look at with some interest at this point when it comes to polling is more on the Democratic side. It's interesting to see, number one, who performs best against the president? Like a lot of these polls will show every one of these people beating the president. I think we all know that that's not, I mean, that's not reality. But it is interesting. The minute he stages, the minute he steps on his stage with Elizabeth Warren, she's done. The Elizabeth Warren thing is fascinating because it's as if the Democrats learn to nothing. It's like take Hillary Clinton and then pop with, you know, give her, fill her with like really leftist policies.

So you'll not only lose her because of the style and her incompetence on the campaign, but you'll also lose a lot of people in the middle because they think she's too much of a socialist. where, you know, Hillary at least tried to hide that. Elizabeth Warren loves it. So you take that, it's like, I can't believe they're falling for that one again. If they put Elizabeth Warren... I saw the numbers of Elizabeth Warren beating Trump, and I thought to myself, oh, please, Democrats. Please, please run. Specifically designed in a factory to lose to Donald Trump, right?

Oh, yeah. If she can beat Donald Trump, literally any Democrat can beat Donald Trump right now, which is, you know, who knows? Who knows how this country goes? We have no idea. Right. But if you... look at that and you say, which candidate is performing best against a Donald Trump? And you see Joe Biden is usually number one in all these recent polls that have come out publicly. He's beating Trump by the most. And you see people who are still have large amounts of the Democrats

and America, especially who have no idea who they are. I mean, people have no idea who Pete Buttigieg is yet. I mean, can he, can he compete? I mean, he, in one of these polls, he's shown beating Donald Trump too, although it's closer. But a lot of has to do with, you know, the American people have no idea who these people even are yet. We're about to have these first debates. Once you get through the first and second round of these debates, you'll start to get a little bit of an idea where this race is. But as of right now, even Biden's lead, which looks insurmountable to a lot of people, is absolutely a real possibility of disintegrating. So way too early to tell. And I think the media's take on this,

which is just trying to say, oh, Donald Trump is shallow and he doesn't want to see people losing, so he's firing himself. Look, these polls leaked not once, but twice. That's that's completely unacceptable from your team. It's this early. Why not switch them out? That's a completely rational thing to do. I saw a clip earlier today on the blaze of Akosio Cortez and she was on, I don't know, meet the press or something. And she was just horrible. She was just horrible on it. And I thought, you know, she she doesn't work in the old style media. She just doesn't work. She's she's never good at it. And if that's all she had, she'd be nowhere.

However, she is a new generation that is really, really good online. Donald Trump is not your typical politician. And for anybody, including me, who said, the guy's not going to win. The guy won't be able to win. It's because we were putting him into the mold of what America really wanted before. well he's not that guy he's he's not a typical politician where i think joe biden is and joe biden's strength will be in the upper end of the democratic party they'll look for that traditional guy who is just rock solid steady blah blah blah blah blah blah even though he's not they'll believe

he's he looks presidential america's not looking for that anymore it's just not um otherwise Donald Trump would not be president. They are looking for somebody who really understands what we're facing today, or at least represents that. I will tell you, if I were, if I were king of the political media and I was on Donald Trump's side, I would be saying to Donald Trump and his allies, all of the people who are the 501C3s, all of the people who are working for the president's real. election, but are not connected to him, they should really just concentrate on what the hell has happened to America. They should be doing all of the stuff about, you know, gay bathroom, I mean, not gay bathrooms, transitional bathrooms, all the things that have made people uncomfortable, the silencing of voices, the crazy political correctness that's going on. I would concentrate on the

left and how crazy it has become and and and show the future using their own words behind the scenes and show this is not who you are this is this is what you want and then ronald then uh don't trump should be doing what ralald reagan did and that is it's morning in america it's a new day in america but remember i'm the first guy i'm the first guy that had a a a a homosexual on the Republican stand talking and speaking out about this. I don't have a problem with homosexuality. I don't have a problem with gay marriage. It's up to you.

And there is a reasonable path. But even that wasn't reasonable enough because that's not where we're headed. And him just doing a very positive morning in America show who we really can be, not in the past show who we can be that our future is right here all we have to do is grab onto it and and i think that would be effective because you have to remind people that things have gone crazy things have really gone crazy and that there is somebody out there and it should be his vision of of a positive american future and i think that would win Now, whether he does that or not, I have no idea.

I know he will go after the press and the press will go after him. And maybe that's winning strategy this time around as well. I don't know. But anything can happen in this. We go back to Stu here on more on this in just a second. First, our sponsor is LifeLock. Did you know that there's a black market for frequent flyer miles? At least a half dozen online markets have listing

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No. I mean, you know. Do we just not pay attention to those polls or were they wrong? I think there's a little bit of both in there. And that one of the big lessons that everyone took from to, is never look at another poll again because they're always wrong. And reality, that's not fair at all. The national polls predicted the results.

I think they missed by about a little over as like 1.1 or 1.2 points. That is, that doesn't sound right because we obviously know the result wasn't right. But remember, polls don't look at the electoral college. Polls look at the national popular vote, which they predicted pretty accurately, honestly. There are a few state polls that were wrong and was enough. to throw the election to Donald Trump. And, you know, that's the electoral college and obviously

very important. But the result, the poll results overall for 2016 were actually really solid when it comes to the nationwide one. And honestly, the bigger lesson to learn, and this is a lesson that I certainly learned in the primary was in the primary,

like remember Donald Trump led all the polls. People forget because at the very end, everyone thought Hillary Clinton was going to win and Donald Trump won. Well, the remember the polls also existed for the primary. And the primary said over and over again for months, despite all the fundamentals, despite all the things that said the opposite, that Donald Trump should win the primary and is leading the primary.

And he did. And he did. So in reality, like, looking at these polls and completely dismissing them is probably a little bit foolish. However, again, a lot can change in a presidential election. You know, remember, it was only a few weeks before the election. the election happened when you have the access Hollywood tape

coming out and polls are swinging towards Hillary Clinton with these large margins and he was able to whittle away at that and come all the way back to almost even in the popular vote right towards the end. He hasn't started any messaging here. The idea that, because here's some of the results.

He's down by 17 in Virginia. State he's probably not going to win anyway. He's down by 15 in Maine. 14 in Minnesota. And he almost one minute, Minnesota in 2016. Michigan, he's down by 13 in these internal polls. Again, they're from March. Even the pollster who took them says at this point they're misleading.

He's losing to Biden in North Carolina by eight. He's losing in Iowa by seven, in Ohio by one. And, you know, these results are not good. And obviously, he would get destroyed if these were real. But they're not real. And that is really important to know. It is also the unnamed Democrat. It's Biden, actually.

In this particular one, it's Biden. Though Biden, I think, stands in for the unnamed Democrat. in a lot of ways because he's kind of the guy he hasn't really campaigned yet he's a guy that people know but they know him largely for him being vice president which as we all know in most cases is just a role

it's the backup quarterback role right people kind of predict well if this person came in he'd be great but you never actually see him doing anything if you're a Democrat you've never seen him actually enacting these policies and when he's tried to come out and propose things he's really had a lot of trouble so far I mean the

Hyde Amendment is the big one where he reversed himself a multi-decade stance against public funding for abortion. And he's come out and now reversed that stance a few times over the past few weeks. And that's a stance that is actually largely popular among the American people, even people who are pro-choice, generally speaking, can get behind the idea, all right, let's not put, we know it's controversial, let's not put public funding behind it. It's only a slight majority of Democratic voters who support overturning. the Hyde Amendment. So, I mean, it's one of those issues that if he's wavering on something,

that's a simple one to be quote unquote centrist about. And he's already waiving on those. I mean, what this campaign could do to him over a long period of time, he may look just as socialist as any of the others. So I just, and maybe it's just me, I just think that when America, if the campaign is run right, when America says, all right, I've got the chaos of the Trump administration, know how to predict it, you know, and I'm tired of the fighting back and forth. However, when I look at who he's fighting against, he's fighting against the press and most Americans don't trust the press. So he's right on that one. And he's also, if they run things properly, when you look at things like abortion and you look at really pretty much everything,

he's in step with the American people. They are wildly out of step. And when it comes down to it, they may say right now, you know what, I don't like all the chaos. I don't like all the bickering back and forth. But when it comes down to it, if the economy is doing well, they will look and say, you know what, I got a job.

Things are going pretty well. I think this is stable. I don't like these things. And, you know, there's a chance that they do enact those things. I'm just going to go with this one. Let's not change horses. As long as the economy. Yeah, huge risk for Democrats in nominating someone like Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders, especially,

who's outwardly telling you they want to change the fabric of our society, right? at least Biden's attempting to hide that. And if you have someone who says basically, okay, here's a stable guy. We already saw Biden in there. Again, this is not my analysis. I'm saying a Democratic voter or a centrist voter even who says, I don't like the chaos of Trump.

Biden, he was around. I remember that. You start remembering these things more fondly than they were. There's plenty of chaos in the Obama administration, but people will forget a lot of that. And they'll say, all right, well, he's not going to be a revolutionary. You don't get that from Elizabeth Warren. You don't get that from Bernie Sanders.

I don't think you're going to get that from Kamala Harris or many of these others. And at that point, you're saying, well, I have something good. Am I going to flush it completely down the toilet and try something different? Or am I going to stick with what's going on right now, which has aspects I don't like, but the economy's good. There's a lot of good things. I think he's got a good case there. Think about flushing things down the toilet. If you are using public Wi-Fi, you do an online search, even in your own home.

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Norton.com slash VPN. And blazTV.com slash Glenn is the place to go for Blaze TV. Get all the shows that you love. Use the promo code Glenn for $10 off. Two big stories, I think, that were happening this weekend. At least they caught my eye, was one, the poll numbers, and we just addressed those. And the second big story was the New York Times, quote, scandal of what they came out and talked about with Russia. And I hit that earlier on first thing on the hour one of this broadcast.

You can listen to it online. If you missed it, you can listen to the podcast. And I'll also hit it from a different angle coming up here in about 25 minutes. So standby for that. But what we get from the news of the day really is that America is changing. The world is changing. And there are digital. players that are in bed with the left and this idea that America was never great.

America is a problem and the free market is a problem. And that's a problem to us because we're living every day with technology that is really remarkable. I mean, take a moment and just think about how remarkable our lives are right now. Nobody has ever had it as easy as we have it. right now. We have access to everything. And it's remarkable, even the poorest among us in this country. You can share your voice. You can be your own publisher. You can print a book and write a book and print it and you don't need anybody on the in-between. You can be the next Rush Limbaugh,

just not on the radio. Just do it online. You have no boss. think of this at the same time um and this kind of goes back to what we were talking about with the the cyber warfare between russia and the united states voices can be silenced everything can be gone a single keystroke a tweak to even an algorithm and you're behind a digital wall or america is silenced you don't have to worry about book burning anymore digital erasing is far more effective to make sure the only the popular or the politically correct speech is heard. And I am growing more and more concerned. And it's, it's funny.

If you read my book, the Overton window or the Eye of Moloch is, I think, a better, even a better novel, you'll see that we put in there at that time the founder's keepers. And these were people because the founder's words were, you know, being destroyed, that they they memorized they became benjamin franklin they became the keeper of of thomas jefferson and and almost like people take the koran or the uh or the uh or the um the old testament i'm trying to think of the i can't think of it now jewish people call the old testament but the way they memorize those things pardon me yeah the Torah thank you uh the way they memorize the Torah the Torah the Torah that is because there was no, you couldn't count on paper.

You couldn't count on anything. You had to make sure that it was told in an oral tradition. Now, we're not at that point. However, we might be at that point if we don't take and preserve some of the things that we have. For instance, I could be erased digitally. You could never find a video of mine with a simple tweak of an algorithm. You could lose all of the books if they were digital that I've ever written. no one would know in 10 years that I even existed.

That's the world we're living in now. Now, it's not so important when you do it to Glenn Beck, but if you do it to Thomas Jefferson, if you do it to really Mark Twain, Mark Twain is already being erased in our schools. Isn't he important? Didn't they really kind of do this to Thomas Jefferson? And we talked about this a while ago, the first draft.

You know, you look at, basically, they made him out to be this slave-owning, you know, this guy with this hardcore desire for slavery. When you read his first draft, you realize the guy couldn't stand slavery. He hated it. He attempted to stop it. It was one of his main points of reasoning to declare independence from Great Britain, as he outlined in giant letters in his own handwriting. And yet that gets erased to the point that now all people think about is this guy was, a slave owner and all the rest of his work is diminished because of it. I mean, that's a, it's a great example. Imagine that in a much quicker fashion. You see what they're doing with like

groups like these like hardcore extreme, you know, let's say, you know, neo-Nazis and, and things. You see the tactics they use against them, which obviously all these groups are horrific, but you see what they do against them. And then you see that they do the same thing up the line where someone like Alex Jones, who might be the next step there, is now gone from all the social media. When's the last time you've heard anybody even talk about Alex Jones other than just referencing him being banned? I mean, what the heck is he talking about anymore? What's this new conspiracy? I have no idea.

In fact, he's got a new problem going on that I have long talked about. And I don't know anything about it. I'm not defending. I'm not dismissing. But I am also not jumping on the bandwagon. apparently child porn was found on his company servers and he's offered a million dollars for anybody that can prove that it was planted there because he said it was it was planted it was sent to us and it was planted but that that'll destroy him if that would if that would be

and I think they do that in a heartbeat to people somebody and I don't mean government or anything else. I just mean individuals hacking in and placing stuff on your, your computer and your hard drives. And then you think you have a, you think you could defend against that? Oh, how? There's no way. There's no way. It's just like trying to defend a 30 year old me too claim, right? There's no way to defend yourself against it. And like, you know, you look at, the next step for, for Alex Jones is probably what the next step was against these white supremacist organizations and such, where instead, of, okay, we kicked him off of social media. He still has his website. I'm sure he's

still making plenty of money off of his website. Well, now you go after the ISP. You go after the company's hosting it. Eventually, you can get to a point where they'll take everything away from the beginning and that line will move towards more and more, quote-unquote, normal speech. Yep. Okay, so here's what I want to ask you to do. And we're going to do this over several days. It might take weeks to do this because I want to talk to people that I really respect and get their their look on this too, I want to start putting a collection together about the library that needs to be preserved and a library that we that we all should have, at least parts of it. You know, for instance, we should all have the Geneva Bible. And I,

you know, you should have the King James Bible, but also the Geneva Bible, because that's the one that led us into freedom. And David Barton has a good version of this. It's the Patriots Bible, where it explains it in today's language. But you need to have a Geneva Bible or a Patriots Bible from David Barton. You need to have a King James version because who knows how those things are changed or if they're just outlawed. Wealth of nations along with moral sentiments. If we are looking at a bunch of people who say that capitalism is bad and the free market just needs to be destroyed, you have to destroy wealth of nations.

We've already destroyed moral sentiments. Those are both by Adam Smith. You need both of them together because moral sentiments is what keeps the wealth of nations actually happening because it makes it more moral. Road to Serfdom. You can't have a road to serfdom. You can't have Mark Twain. How about Churchill by Boris Johnson? Churchill is going to be destroyed.

Now, you need to have both sides. And I don't remember it's the empire or something. I can't remember, but I'll find it. The way Churchill was looked at in India, which is true. He was a bad guy in India. So you have to have both. But I just think there are so many books that we need to preserve that could so easily be wiped out.

Again, you don't own your library if it is on Kindle. Google books. They can take them. They own it. You're renting it. I know it says buy this book, but you don't own it. They can just remove it. So we need to look at the things that are really about America,

about the truths of America. about the truth that are so easily being lost right now. I think coming apart by Charles Murray is a really important book because it shows what was happening to us. It shows, you know, all those controversial things that nobody wanted to talk about that shows the original divide. I, you know, I, I think we need stories, books like Greg Easter book's book, it's better than it looks. or Stu, what's the one you would say? What's his name? That is the really positive Stephen Pinker.

And the positive look at the West. That's all going to be destroyed. You can't let that out there. Now, this is obviously for crazy scenarios. This is for the losing of voices, but we're seeing the losing of voices. We're seeing the loss of Stephen Crowder. Um, my voice, Russia's voice, Sean's voice, Mark Levins voice, any of these voices that will try to stand, we have a shot of being erased into a digital ghetto.

You need to preserve these things. Somebody needs to hold on to them. And I think this goes back to an early, uh, prompting of mine clay pots. It's why we started our museum because somebody has to preserve. the good and the bad. By the way, we're doing a, we're doing a museum. It opens the last week of June and goes through the 7th of July, and it's at our Mercury studios.

It's a quick pop-up museum about the history with Abraham Lincoln and slaves and racism. It asks the question, what is racism? Is that an American problem? What is slavery? Is that an American problem? What are these things? How do they start? What does it mean?

Are they done? And it is very powerful and quite honestly, quite controversial, I think, because it tells the truth. And I have a feeling we're going to get a lot of pushback on it. But we'll see. Please come and see our museum. You will see the real Gettysburg address, the real emancipation proclamation. And it's only open for a few days at the Mercury Studio. and you can find tickets now at mercury one.org,

Mercury 1.org, but bring your family and learn the truth. I also would like to know if you had to preserve the nation, if you had to tell its story, we obviously would put the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence in there. We would put the Federalist Papers. Everyone should have the Federalist Papers in there. But what books need to be saved, both good and bad, from digital ghettoization or like we will talk about coming up in just a second,

what the real point of the story from the New York Times this weekend and Donald Trump, the point of the story with Russia is that we are trying to be in place with Russia and other countries where we can shut all electronics down, all electricity, everything. We shut it all down because that's the way, according to Putin, the next war will be fought. It'll be fought with ones and zeros. So how do we shut? shut everything down. Well, if you shut, you shut everything down, you lose everything. So I want you to please help us with this project. Go to glenbeck.com slash save books and submit the books that you

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They already have, I believe, 15 states. They're, what, 180? or 200 electoral votes. They have to get to 270. And then it's just, it's a straight popular vote. And the left is doing this. And they are very, very well financed and organized. And we are not doing anything to combat it.

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We were talking at one point that they would just come out and then they would just say what they were really trying to do. that the radicals, the progressives would start to say, look, I'm a Democratic socialist. Okay, that's what I am. And this system doesn't work. And people thought I was crazy when I said that. I'm going to play some audio that just happened this weekend. That's a little stunning.

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All we want is Sweden. This is all we want. That's absolutely not true. Sweden, Norway, those are free market systems. Those are capitalist nations with a very large safety net. So it's easy for somebody say, look, I want Sweden. We just are going to have to have higher taxes. We still keep the free market the way it is.

in fact, we should reduce some of the regulation because Sweden and Norway are way ahead of us on less regulation. So businesses can make more money, but people make more money, and that's we get the taxes and we take that money and we have a big safety net. That's the message of Norway and Denmark, not what Democratic socialists are saying. Yeah, and we should point out, obviously, there's major issues with that. I mean, you know, it's easy to do a Norway and a Denmark when you have a United States doing all the innovations for. you, right? Like, it's easy to be able to live off essentially the work of other countries who have a freer market. And then, of course, there's other, there's other more, you know, day-to-day pragmatic things. Like, for example, you know, the average new home in the United

States is 2,600 square feet. The average residence in Norway is something like 780. So, I mean, if you... Well, I think the, I think the biggest thing is, and this is even too big of a state, but you could do this in, let's say, Manhattan, or you could do this in California. if it was a country and they had to live within their own means and they had to live with the consequences of what they wanted to do without dragging the rest of the country in with them. This is a very large country, huge population, very diverse. Not everybody wants to go that way. So if you wanted to do it in California, do it in California, but we cut all ties to you financially, meaning we're not going to bail you out. you have to do what Norway is doing.

They have to live within their own means or go out a business. Right. So there's a lot of trade-offs there. However, most of the people who say they're democratic socialists, when you're talking about people who are philosophically advocating that viewpoint, as we've seen from Jacobin and, you know, the piece we've talked about several times in Fox where they talk about, basically what we're looking to do is overthrow capitalism.

It's not just Medicare for all. It's not just the big rene new deal. we want to overthrow it because we think it's bad. They'll eventually admit it if you kind of actually go after them. Well, in the Denver City Council, Candy Kabaka, I believe is her name. She talks about capitalism and wants to make sure that everyone understands what she really wants. And this is not just this little vision of Norway that we've been sold. This is full government ownership, ownership by the state of the means of production.

Listen to her outline it. What experience do you have on shaping the economy of the city and not turning Denver into a true welfare state where there is limited potential for personal wealth and savings? Well, I guess we'll just address the elephant in the room. I don't believe that our current economic system actually works. Capitalism by design is extractive, and in order to generate profit in a capitalist system, something has to be exploited. That's land, labor, or resources. And I think that we're in late phase capitalism and we know it doesn't work and we've got to move into something new. And I believe in community ownership of land, labor, resources and distribution of those resources. And so whatever that morphs into, I think is what will serve community the best.

And I'm excited to usher it in it by any means necessary. I love that. By any means necessary. And by the way, what it's morphed into in case you, you know, if she says, whatever it morphed, into. So far it's 100 million dead. So that's, that morphing was kind of problematic for me, morphed into, you know, a lot of people losing their lives in every single instance it's been attempted. So I, I do not want to try it. I do not think capitalism has failed. And we've talked about these numbers so many times. I mean, we've billions of people ripped out of poverty by this

system since, you know, we've been alive. This is not going back to the 19, you can go back to the 1800s, and sure it looks great. Go back to the 1990s. Billions of people extracted from poverty because of this system she wants to close. It's not a good look. It's not a good look. And I will say the people of Denver knew that.

And that's why, of course, she actually successfully won election after those statements. That's unbelievable. That's absolutely unbelievable. The people, you know, it used to be said that the people who had the most to lose did the least to save it. It is now those with the most to lose are doing the most to lose it.

I mean, our nation is filled with people who are either in denial, that'll never happen, or they are, or they're actively involved in it. I mean, they're telling you what they want to do. and and I guess part of it is we haven't learned about nobody young has learned about the Soviet Union has learned about the socialist experiments these are all experiments in fact the first socialist experiment I can't say the first because the first was really the pilgrims no it was really Jamestown perhaps and then the pilgrims they all tried socialist you know it wasn't called socialism then but they all tried this we'll all decide and we'll all just put our money in a big heap and it doesn't work. The, the, a really big experiment happened in Texas, believe it or not. And if you ever look at the, uh, skyline of Texas, just Google it real quick. And you'll see a big ball, a round ball and it's lit up at night.

And it's the reunion tower. Nobody knows what the reunion tower is. What is reunion? Well, reunion used to be a suburb of Dallas. And it was a reunion, Texas. It's now part of Dallas. And it was the big first real socialist experiment in Texas where they tried this. They tried this in the late 1800s.

In fact, one of the biggest minds of the socialist movement from France came over. They were the movers and shakers. And they tried it. And it ended the way it always ends. You were kicked out as soon as you got sick. You were kicked out as soon as you got old. You were not allowed to stay there, and it all fell apart. Now, the modern socialist movement doesn't kick you out of the community.

They just kill you. And so it completely failed, and every socialist experiment ends the same way. And what are we doing? We were going to try a socialist experiment in America and in the West. well, it will end exactly the same way. And it's amazing to me that people have not been taught the difference between the free market and what we're doing now, which is crony capitalism. Crony capitalism, the reason why this is failing in many ways is because of many of the things that the socialists are doing in companies like Google and Facebook. what are they doing? They're controlling everything. They're controlling the way it works. They're in bed with the government, if not the government here, but the government in China. Look at Amazon. Look at Google. They're writing all of the laws. So the things that we hate about capitalism, crony capitalism, that these companies just get bigger and bigger, and they don't have to abide by the laws that you have to abide to. Why is it that Google,

and Facebook are having a problem right now, they're having a problem because they don't have to pick between a publisher, being a publisher where they edit and they're responsible and you can sue them, or a platform, which is just an open platform and everyone can say whatever they want on it. Well, they don't want that. They want both. They want to have a platform that they can edit if they choose, but not get sued if they don't choose the right ones or don't catch something.

because they're a platform, but have all the benefits of being a publisher as well in control speech. Why are we having a problem? Because it's in bed with the government. Why are we having a problem with so many things? Why do this, why do the, why does the left hate corporations? They hate corporations because they know they get big, bloated, and then they control everything because of government. They get involved with the government.

That's crony capitalism. And that's exactly what they eventually do. Do you really think that the people in Venezuela really had a say? Do you think the people in the former Soviet Union really had a say on how to make things? Watch Chernobyl. The little people didn't have anything to say. Everybody was too afraid to say anything. Well, that won't happen here.

Really? There's no one afraid to say anything right now? is no one afraid of saying the wrong thing and being politically squashed? How do you not see that this is exactly where we're headed? They're doing all of the things that they say they hate, therefore freedom, therefore everybody having their fair shot while they're in bed with people like Google and Facebook, who will do nothing but enforce whatever it is they believe by any means necessary. That last line, she said, should not be taken lightly by any means necessary.

True revolutionaries know you've got to break a lot of eggs to make an omelet. You just listen to George Soros in his own words on 60 minutes when he said, look, so a lot of the people, you know, they hurt, but, you know, it's kind of fun doing this. You're destroying people and you don't care because it's not about the individual. it's for the greater good. And there is no greater good without the individual. It becomes a greater nightmare. And that's what our founders knew.

And somehow or another, well, we're not somehow or another. We know how it happened. They have made sure that our children are not educated in this and that our values and our principles are being sidelined and being silenced and discredited every step of the way. And we need to draw a line in the sand and say, no more, not an not an inch further and preserve those things in our own life, in our own homes, and make sure that we know how this story usually ends. And we write ourselves into the story, who will we be? Who will we be? Who will our children be when they say any means necessary? Who will we be?

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Pretty good. How about you? Yeah, good. What'd you do? I had a father-son basketball camp this weekend, which was five hours on Friday night and then six hours on Saturday. And I'm not in shape as how I would summarize the weekend. I am in pain as if I conquered Everest several times. And instead, what I did was, I think, run a few drills. and the drills that used to be easy and they no longer come that way. So I'm in pain.

I'm in severe pain is how I've described my weekend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I kind of similar, kind of similar. We're building fences and things like that. And I realized, I can't really do much really of anything. Destroying, destroying an old fence, taking an old fence down with a sledgehammer. We have two of the guys who are up here helping us with it. And, you know, they're old, you know, special forces kind of guys.

and watching them take the sledgehammer. I'm thinking, nope, not a chance. I'm not even a man anymore. I'm not even a man. Physical labor is one of those things that we, it's nice to look back on, but I don't want to go back there if I can avoid it. Actually, yeah, it's actually, it's weird because I want to do it.

I don't want to do it full time. I don't want to do it full time. Don't get me wrong. I was, because we have a couple of, heavy machinery here that I just been drinking like crazy and then operating. But we have a couple of pieces of heavy machinery. And even in that, you know, it's a hard job. It's a really hard job.

And I was thinking myself, I could do this. And then I thought, no, I really couldn't. I couldn't do this my whole like. No way. I love when the politicians come out and they're like, well, look, I just, we need to get these manufacturing jobs back. And none of these people had manufacturing jobs. Like manufacturing jobs are great.

and they, you know, they are obviously a central part of our economy, but very few the people advocating for them have actually done them. Like, they're hard. You're in pain afterwards. You know, they talk about this replacement of truck drivers, right, with all these automated vehicles. And what they're finding is when these automations come, and not all of them, obviously, this is just very beginning of the circle.

But what they think is going to happen is a lot of these truck drivers who will go on, especially ones who are maybe old enough and not, you know, to be able to train for another gig, are going to retire, look around for a while, and eventually go on disability, because almost all of them have ailments that could qualify you for disability, because they all have had to drive around

and they have back problems and they have all sorts of physical issues that absolutely qualify them because it's hard for freaking work. We want to save these coal mining jobs. Actually, I think everybody who is in a coal mining job would say, hey, or replace it with something I can do. I'm up for that. I mean, you look at these coal miners, no thank you. No, thank you. But, you know, it's a little ridiculous for us. I just realized I'm dead. The power goes out. You know, the New York Times thing, you know, where we're cyber warfare, well, I'm dead within a week. And I'm very marbled. So I'm being eaten by the survivors that are out actually using sledgehammer. Oh, in the cannibalism economy, you are your high value.

Oh, yeah, no, they bid on me, the different camps. They take me and they're like, okay, we got this one up for sale. He is really soft, tender, tender eaten and very, very juicy and fatty. People say you're not preparing for the future. You clearly are. I mean, look at that. I am. It takes a long, long amount of work to get to where you are.

I clearly am. You know, I've spent the last two weeks with my son. it's really kind of been it's been a hard year with with him because he's coming into his own and that's good it's all good stuff

but it's hard and I'm trying to walk him through it without self-destruction because of what is what's happening in society and you know he had a real problem last year around the summertime

and then and then this this last year has been really, really tough. And it's hard because when you're a dad and you have more than one child, it's hard to dedicate yourself to all of them at the same time. And it's tough. Dad's, deserve a day of looking up and saying, hey, thanks, Dad.

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This is a really good podcast this weekend. The Glenn Beck podcast, which you can hear on iTunes or wherever you download podcasts. If you're a subscriber to the blaze, you'll get it there. But the podcast is, it was really, really good this weekend and so well worth your time. Just listen to it, even in bits and pieces over the week, if you can. We had James Lindsay and Peter Bogosian. And these are the two scientists that are trying to take on the educational system and trying to uprooted and say, what are you doing? shake it back awake and show how off track it really is.

And they have just become pariahs and they know it. And we had a fascinating conversation. I want to just play a couple of things. Bogosian is a big atheist. And I wondered how we were going to be able to sit down and have a real conversation. And if this would come up and if it did, how it would be handled, I want you to listen to this. Here's Lindsay and Bogosian on religion. The only reason people believe in the new religion is because they stop believing in the old, right?

Nietzsche. It's kind of thinking about Game of Thrones, but yeah. Now I have the new gods and the old gods. Thank you. And so Jim and I have written extensively about how there's a new religion. And then this new religion is, I don't know if it's a religion or a worldview or a cult. It's almost a religion. It is a faith tradition, or not tradition.

really. It is a faith system for certain. The social justice is a faith system at this point, but they won't admit it because they don't have to because they can. It looks like knowledge. They aren't pointing to scripture. They're pointing to, but it is their scripture. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. We have the parallels that you can speak to. Privilege being original sin, political greatness being blasphemy. Privilege also being depravity. It corrupts you totally and makes it so that you can't do anything but in depravity in the religious sense or Calvinist sense it's that you are depraved in the sense that you seek to sin and here it's your privilege so you seek to maintain your privilege it's right

it's a perfect parallel uh concept and they go all the way down wokeness is being born again and you can have you written this yet yeah yeah yeah i wrote it just before christmas aerial magazine helen pluck rose is our third contributor it's in ariel magazine it's 15000 words so enjoy your time oh i will It's a solid hour. And I think so part of this is, you know, we hosted the James D'Amour event at Portland State University, and it was going to be James DeMore myself. And we invited the Women's Studies Department on stage. They said, no.

Two days later, James and Helen Pluckrose and I did an event at Portland State, and we invited the Women's Studies again, nothing. We have consistently invited people to have conversations with us. And it's incredibly difficult when you want to have a conversation with us. That's why it's so interesting to me that, the people on the right have been so welcoming to us, right? I mean, I've never lied to anybody. You know, I'm an atheist.

You know I'm a liberal. I've never lied to anybody, but you've never lied to anybody about what you believe. And I've been totally taken aback by how welcoming people are. Because you, because perhaps you have bought into the narrative that the right, and some on the right, are this way, are a progressive right, are a big government. government, big control, you know, that there are those Christians who are like, my way on the highway, good, we can get everybody baptized or whatever. Yeah. That there is that sliver, but the right, generally, the strength still is this constitutional,

I don't hate my neighbor. I don't mind. I want to work together. We're here because we see this vision that people can do something great with their life that's different than mine. Right. Right. That's that that's it's a small group of people, but I think it's actually getting bigger because it's in the American DNA. Lindsey, James Lindsay and Peter Begozen on a broker of conversation. Listen.

I say this with total sincerity that you are a sincere broker of conversation. I appreciate you having us on even though you know. know we have differences of opinion and that's fantastic well I mean you don't understand how I'll I mean you're making a big deal out of this is this not happening anywhere because nobody not in our lives not in our lives I mean since we've come out with people on quote whatever our side should be aren't inviting us on their shows they're not talking to us they're heeping two left wing outlets since October they're heaping derision on us like you know so when we did the atheist thing everyone was like oh you know you guys are just liberals or whatever well they were right but But now that we've done this and that we've attacked kind of our own tribe or our own side.

And the reason is even though I share a lot of those impulses, that doesn't mean you get to make stuff up. That doesn't mean you get to pretend that something is knowledge. Like we really need to have something we can count on, something we can go to, something we can point to, and then we can squabble over public policy. But we need to have things that we can point to and say, hey, you know what, we know this. This has been, we've come about this, the integrity of this process is intact. You don't have to worry about it. The process needs to be defended. Yeah, the process needs to be defended.

And that's the other thing that we've lost. So I really do appreciate you inviting us on, you having a sincere and honest conversation with us. And that's exactly what we need. And we're not having it. So can I tell you something? Yeah. I feel exactly the same way.

This is an amazing conversation because you realize how much. much we really have in common. And let me play these last two clips for you. Here they are, James Lindsay and Peter Bogosian, on idea laundering. Postmodernism, right, is what our friend Brett Weinstein calls ideal laundering. So they have this idea, like they have this moral urge, and they don't know how to discharge this urge, they don't know what to do. So they get a bunch of other people who have this urge together, who have some kind of deep moral feeling about something, and they write a journal. Are they publish a journal? And then they idea launder.

They start publishing their, I think they're insane ideas, but they start publishing these ideas in journals. And then those journals inform public policy. So when someone says, how do you know the trigger warnings? How do you know safe spaces? How do you know microaggressions? Well, they point to the journal article. It's the same thing. Or training men like you train dogs will prevent rape culture.

Well, you push it through a journal. Now it's knowledge. Now it's knowledge. You have the same thing. This is how they distorted history. We have, for instance, George Washington, all of the stories written by the guys at the time that knew him. We're next to him. Those have all been erased.

And new professors come in with new studies. It's their opinion. And they start quoting, the next book quotes that guy. And the next book quotes the two guys. And then all of a sudden, it's done. And what you're probably looking at there is coming out of what they call critical race theory. And critical race theory is openly, historically revisionist. What's it supposed to do?

It's supposed to show that the white power has always been trying to maintain itself. So somehow, no matter what happened, like the civil rights successes, for example, that was white people trying to make themselves look good by giving black people rights. It was a means for white supremacy to maintain itself. So they rewrite history in a sense that always serves the narrative that they're trying to spin. And then if it gets any legs behind it, once it gets published. And they teach your knowledge now. These guys got a lot of heat this weekend for being on. my program, a lot of heat, but they're used to it. And I want to leave you with one piece.

And this is why it is important that we have these conversations and that you engage and you listen in the podcast and you suggest to me people that you think should be on the podcast that are deep thinkers that can be reasonable and and they base their life and their their their viewpoints on facts. Here's the last cut. It's really interesting because I spend a lot of time with conservatives because I live in the South. A lot of my friends are conservatives, libertarian, conservatives, classical liberals at heart

with conservative views. And I am actually encouraged by what I'm seeing there. Again and again, I hear the same thing. And I don't know what the reasons are. Maybe it's just because Trump's in power and all of this. But I do know that I keep hearing again and again, I'm tired of all the fighting. I'm tired of it being you know, daggers against daggers

I'm tired of it being that I can't be your friend because our politics differ. Let's go back to what Jefferson said where matters of religion, politics, and philosophy don't separate friends. And I hear this so consistently from conservatives that I do have hope that there's at least a sea change going on.

I do think that. Because I did not experience that living as a liberal in the South for the last decade. This is new to see this as the main voice that I'm sure. There's a hunger to have an adult conversation with people who has a different view without being called a racist or a bigot or a homophore. Because what I see is people reaching across the table with an open hand. Right. And some people on the other side are going to slap it, but other people are going to take it. And the more people who take that

hand, whether it's a liberal reach into a conservative or there's a conservative reach to a liberal, the more people who take that hand, the faster this problem gets faced. And you probably find you have fall more in common. One is far more in common if they're conservative with a liberal. and part of the reason is I think it was telling Jim, I think last night at dinner, it's really weird. Like here we are, two liberal atheists. We're on your show. We're hanging out. I'm having a good time.

Staff was fantastic to me. It's really interesting. I wish I would have heard the rest of it. You can hear the rest of it now on the podcast. It came out last Saturday, so it's available now wherever you download your podcast. Really well worth your time. You will understand what's happening to our country. you'll understand what's happening in education, how bad this fight really is.

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else have been driving it is you adjust the seat. And if you have a nice car, a luxury car, if you're blessed enough to be able to drive one of those, You know that it has all kinds of adjustments and it can adjust, you know, the lumbar support and you can get it just right. Well, how about your office chair? If your office chair has fewer than 10 customized adjustments, then you are not sitting in an X chair. And I have to tell you, Stephen Crowder and I were talking about this the other day. He went out and he bought one of those, I don't know. I think they're Herman Miller chairs.

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And he said, Glenn, he said, I got one of these really expensive chairs. I said, I know, brother. And he said, it's terrible. It doesn't do anything. An ex-chair has all of the adjustments that will make you sit up straight. It will support you. I mean, it is the best chair I've ever sat in. You can try yourself 30-day money-back guarantee.

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It kicked up a lot of dust this weekend. President Trump said that it was a treasonous article. I actually think this is a good article for President Trump. It's the toughest stance on Russia yet. It's been something that I've been wondering, are we doing anything about Russia for the next election? Are we doing anything? Are we watching?

Are we competing in what Putin says is World War three, a fight of ones and zeros. According to this article, we are and the president knows about it because he signed in some new latitude for the general in charge of cyber warfare. The second article that was out this weekend, the second big talking point was that the president's poll numbers are falling apart and he's fired people because he doesn't like bad poll numbers. Not true. He fired people because they released confidential poll numbers. They did it not once but twice. They should have been fired.

The second thing that you need to know, the poll numbers are old and they're unreliable. The president hasn't even started his campaign yet. It's something that he needs to kick off with a real positive vision for the American future, and he needs to execute on that vision. I actually hope that the polls convince the Democrats that Elizabeth Warren is the guy,

is the woman to run against President Trump? Because I think she's a disaster. She is perhaps the only candidate, perhaps, perhaps, because this is saying quite a bit, perhaps the only candidate that could possibly ever show up that's worse than Hillary Clinton. But we'll wait to see. Hopefully, oh, please, Democrats, whatever you do, don't run Elizabeth Warren. And the third article, we never really got to. And I think it's important if we can squeeze some of it in now.

Bitcoin is up to $9,000, and this is important because it's quietly happening this time. This is institutional money. So this isn't the people who are like, I'm going to get rich. This is institutional money, which changes things dramatically in the positive for Bitcoin. Yeah, they're all reporting on cryptocurrency has been horrible. And they, you know, all you hear is, okay, it went up to 1920,000. How many, you know how long it was at 19,000? One day.

Yeah, there was a huge. peak. It was over 18,000 for three days and 17,000 for five days. But the fact is, if you bought cryptocurrency in any month other than the peak month, I think it's now, looking back at it, 24 of 26 months since the boom started, you're currently up. So yes, if you bought at the absolute peak, you're down. But I mean, it would be difficult to do that. It was only at the absolute peak for one day. If you bought any time in the 24 to 20

out of the 26 other months since the boom started, you're actually up right now. And, you know, the media is not talking about it anymore. It doesn't have any of the hype. It's all negative headlines. Yet here we are.

And I don't know if anyone remembers the time that the tulip, you know, boom happened and then it lost all of its value and then regained half of its value a year and a half later. Because I don't remember that part in the story. That did. seem to happen. You know, look, there's a lot of reasons why people who absolutely adore big government

do not want cryptocurrency to succeed. And that is part of this, I think. But, you know, look, other people, maybe somebody, if you got hyped up by somebody and you bought at the peak, you felt burned by it. But it would have been hard to do. I mean, when looking at it, I mean, cryptocurrency has been around for a long time, unless you selected one of the, you know, couple of months that was at the absolute hype peak, you're actually up currently.

and nobody's telling you that. It's a different story. It's 9,000, and I think what is very positive is that no one is telling this story. This is institutional lending or buying, and this is what we said would happen. They would drive the market down, and then they'd quietly get into it, and they'd get rich. Now, really, it might be the time to get into it because it's institutional money. This is the Glympeg Program.