The Glenn Beck Program - The Most DISTURBING Truth About the Lab-Leak Theory | Guest: Tina Mulally | 2/28/23

Episode Date: February 28, 2023

Glenn breaks down why Russia’s warning that “we don’t need a world without Russia” is so concerning. South Dakota state Rep. Tina Mulally warns the definition of money is about to change as th...e government creates its own digital currency. Glenn explains why it’s so disturbing that nobody in the media has apologized for ruining the lives of people who believed the COVID-19 lab-leak theory. Glenn reviews a deepfake of Biden enacting the Selective Service Act that shows how dangerous this tech could be. Is Bing’s AI chatbot acting weird? Glenn discusses the biggest question we must ask about AI as a former Google software engineer warns that it could become as game-changing as the atomic bomb. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:59 Yellen was in Kiev. Isn't that great? Everybody's going to Ukraine. A country best known for Chernobyl and money laundering. Fantastic. And we're going to be with Ukraine for as long as it takes. Well, that's kind of a problem for people like Putin. I'm going to put this into perspective and I'm going to give you the actual facts on what they're saying and what it all means. I think you might have your eyes opened a little bit on what we are facing. We begin there in 60 seconds.
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Starting point is 00:03:46 Okay. Dimitri Medvedev. You remember him, right? He's the former Russian president, then became the prime minister. And Medvedev came out yesterday and said, hey, there's a real nuclear threat if the U.S. continues to supply arms to Ukraine. He wrote an op-ed piece in the state-run newspaper. Second time now in three weeks he has, and Vladimir Putin, has invoked the nuclear option
Starting point is 00:04:23 in an effort to deter the U.S.-led NATO alliance from arming Ukraine. Medvedev, who was president between 2008 and 2008-200th, currently serves as the Deputy Chairman of the Powerful Security Council of Russia dangled the prospects of talks while demanding shipments of arms to Ukraine be halted immediately. Now, he's echoing the words that were uttered Sunday by Putin. He wrote, Any existential threat to Russia would not be decided on the front in Ukraine, but would spiral into an existential threat to all of human civilization.
Starting point is 00:05:06 We do not need a world without Russia. Now, most people who are not paying attention, and I mean politicians, do not know what that phrase means. We do not need a world without Russia. Let me tell you what Putin said over the weekend. The U.S. and its NATO allies want to inflict a strategic defeat on us. The aim is to make our people suffer. How can we ignore their nuclear capabilities in these conditions? They've tried to reshape the world exclusively on their terms.
Starting point is 00:05:47 We have no choice but to react. If Washington gets its way, Russia will be divided into Moscow, the Urals, and other disparate regions. It would be a world without Russia. Okay? A world without Russia. We don't need a world without Russia. This is a very important phrase. Now, Medvedad went on to say, the threat against Russia is an existential threat to all civilization as we don't need a world without Russia. Our enemies are doing just that, not wanting to understand that their goals obviously lead to a total fiasco, because everyone loses a collapse, an apocalypse, when the former life will have to be forgotten for centuries until the rubble ceases to emit radiation.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Okay, that's pretty strong. But you don't know the half of it. I want to take you I want to take you to what that phrase means and then I'm going to pick it up with the rest of what Medvedev said but to understand this you have to first understand
Starting point is 00:07:10 the origin of that phrase I have for a long time read everything I can on Dugan Alexander Dugan really bad guy. Been telling you that for a long time. He's a quote, traditionalist, but that's a capital T traditionalist. This is a, this is something that he is using to further his goals. And I think you will understand his goals. There's an award-winning journalist in Moscow that has been speaking out against Dugan. And I want to just read something that has been translated in Moscow. to English that was written about him on Dugan, and he's warning people are dismissing him as a petty fraudster interested in nothing but money. The consensus is also that Dugan is a windbag who excites only Western political scientists, a few half-witted and certain bohemians
Starting point is 00:08:15 who've snorted their brains out. But I warn we shouldn't underestimate his influence, no matter how crazy we find his ideas, especially because those ideas tend to become reality. I remember accidentally attending a lecture by Dugan on angelic entities in the late 90s. It was an unbearable exercise in transcendental sophistry, dealing mainly with the image of Lucifer, the fallen angel. There were about 20 people of indeterminate age. and gender in the auditorium. And I thought at the time that perhaps they too were fallen angelic entities who have come to listen to a lecture about themselves. Then in the, he says, mid-notties, meaning, you know, in the zeros, I ran into Dugan at a gig at the Akira Club. He dearly loved
Starting point is 00:09:14 English apocalyptic folk music for its commitment to Nazi Satanism. his daughter Darya apparently did as well. Now remember, Daria is his daughter that was just killed in a car bombing that apparently was meant for him. Uh, I recently saw a post about how she did the Nazi salute at a death in June gig in Moscow. I, you know, I stay away from those gigs. If it's death in June, I did.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Anyway, uh, it was also around that time that I visited. the summer camp of Dugan's Eurasian Youth Union. Now, that sounds good. A building at a dilapidated holiday resort near Zevengrad, that had been rented for this purpose. There were not many young people in attendance, about 30 or 40.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Many were wearing Russian peasant shirts because Dugin Hazerila had realized that his Nazi Satanist strategy had not a great future in modern Russia. So he had declared himself an old believer. An old believer is, I mean, if the FBI thinks the people who think that, you know, in 1962, Vatican 2 was too radical, an old believer is an Eastern Orthodox Christian who thinks that the reforms of 1652 and 1666 were too modest. were too modern. Anyway, before meals at this camp, a round-faced bearded man would proclaim in his base voice,
Starting point is 00:11:02 angels at the table, and they would present and cross themselves. At night, the young people lined up with lighted torches on the banks of the Moscow River to take the oath of Eurasian. Back then, Dugan adored the black magic ceremonies and rituals. wording of the oath was pompous and not bereft of poetry. I recall that the word will was intoned more often than curses against atlanticists and aslanticist liberals. That would be us, the people of the sea, as he calls them, or Atlantisus people of the North Atlantic Treaty.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Will and mind, will and mind, the puny lads and lasses repeated in unison after Dugan. It would have smacked of triumph of the will, were it not for the outward appearance of the young Eurasians, which was far from Aryan perfection. At the time, I couldn't have imagined, of course, that a goofy postmodern cult would someday become the ideological mainstream, and that by 2022, the entire country would be caught up in this sect. In 2011, the party youth under the leadership of Dugan staged the occult mystery play Finis Mundi, the end of the world, at the ESM summer camp. Daria, that's his daughter, by the way, played the role of the sacrificial victim who voluntarily self-emul-em- how do you say it emulates,
Starting point is 00:12:51 sets herself on fire in order to save Russia. As the girl is burning, a man's voice proclaims, cross yourself with fire, burn up in the fire, and save your diamond from the black furnace. Now, the director of this play said, we have to bring the end of the world closer. There is only one means of curing the world's disease, and that is burning the world,
Starting point is 00:13:22 which I illustrated in the play's final scene, in which the burning of the universe takes place. In the finale, Dugan came on stage and said, we have lived three days of our life toward death. I do not think the scenes you have stage need to be deciphered. The world's end is the task. that faces you in the future. The writer writes,
Starting point is 00:13:46 it is obvious that Dugan is obsessed with the idea of bringing the world to a purgatory apocalypse after which the great Eurasian Empire, the end of the world, will be born. When the conservative turn dawned, Dugan moved away from occult postmodernism, focused instead of the topic of tradition for which there was a sudden demand. the Kremlin had been fanatically searching for new ideologies with which to oppose the official enemy liberalism. Dugan finally turned from a bohemian guru into a sought-after ideologue of the regime. There is one convincing bit of evidence that speaks to this being the case. In 2014, Dugan ended his programmatic article about ideology of the new Russia as follows.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Russia will either be Russian, that is, Eurasian, that is the core of the great Russian world, or it will disappear. But then it would be better that everything disappear. There is simply no reason to live in a world without Russia. Vladimir Putin said in an interview, just recently, with TV talk show host yippity yip yap on the topic of the nuclear threat, why do we need such a world if there is no Russia there? Dugan seemingly managed to captivate the dictator with his most terrible idea.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Listen to this phrase, the hastening of the world's end. Now, who else is hastening the world's end? We've heard that before. heard from the 12 verse in Iran, the extremist, I guess, Islamic-related cult in Iran, pushing for the end of the world to hasten the apocalypse. He says, in this context, Darya's death appears especially ominous. Many people were struck by the young woman's funeral. They were struck by the behavior of a father who had lost his daughter but delivered propaganda tirades in an unnaturally trembling voice and appealed to Russians to fight to the, bitter end. Moreover, I had the strange feeling that Dugan was directing this spectacle.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Perhaps I'm mistaken, but this looks as if it came from the playbook of the stager of the occult mystery plays and black masses, and not that of a crook from the state Duma. If we assume just for a second that this might be true, it really gets creepy. He said, quote, we will go to heaven and they will just drop dead. Putin, when asked to explain what the phrase means, we don't need a world without Russia, he couched it in the dialect of the back streets. It is the language of the world's end. It sometimes seems to me that they have already made the final decision.
Starting point is 00:17:08 They have not only canceled Ukraine, but I believe they have canceled the world. Again, the phrase is really important. There is no reason to live in a world without Russia. Dugan is encouraging the hastening of a new world order. He does not believe Armageddon brings heaven. to earth in the way Christians normally do. He believes Armageddon will renew the earth and Russia will lead the world. There just has to be some Russian leadership left.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Okay. Now, I'm going to give you the rest of Medvedev's interview or his opinion piece. It is really important that you hear it. and then you hear our response. I don't believe anyone in this administration. I don't know if anybody even in the Pentagon is paying any attention. Somewhere, deep in the bowels of the CIA, there is somebody like me who's done the research
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Starting point is 00:21:44 Now, he is quoting Clause 19 of the Russian fundamentals. Russia may use nuclear weapons, and I'm quoting in the event of aggression against Russia with the use of conventional weapons when the very existence of the state is threatened. Now, I am wildly against. All of this stuff. We have got to stop this war path. But I could be wrong. Tomorrow night, Wednesday night, I host an all-sides debate. I have Jerry Boykin, who's going to say, we've got to arm Ukraine.
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Starting point is 00:24:16 has got so much time on her hand, she decided to make a surprise visit to Ukraine, where she announced a $9.9 billion package of civilian aid to Ukraine. And it's going to be great. She says our funds help pay for emergency personnel from firefighters who answer the call when missile strike, medical professionals who treat the sick and wounded, and also schools. We're going to make sure that the school teachers get array. which is weird because wasn't the head of the teachers union in Ukraine about two months ago? And we were all like, what is she doing over there?
Starting point is 00:25:00 Why is the Teachers Union of America over in Ukraine? I wonder if they got a new union. And they're demanding a pay raise right now, I'll tell you that. They're paying pensions over there now. Yeah, yeah. Maybe it is tied in. Yeah, yeah. So we got that going for us.
Starting point is 00:25:17 another $9.9 billion to pay for their schools and everything else. And I like this quote. As you have said, our support is not charity. This is what Yellen said to Zelensky. It's an investment in global security and democracy. No, it's really not. It's really not. But I bet it is an investment.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I just wonder what we get really in return. Now, one of the people, one of the architects of all of this is Victoria Newland. If you don't know who she is, you should go back and watch our special on Ukraine. She was the woman who really designed. I mean, we have pictures of her handing out cookies at the Revolution Against Russia in 2014. She was great. She was great.
Starting point is 00:26:07 She was our Undersecretary of State for Eurasia and the Ukraine. and she was wonderful. She spent a lot of time there training people how to be a rebel and rise up in the streets. And so we paid for that, your tax dollars. But she was also very, very close. She was the liaison between President Obama, Vice President Biden and George Soros, because you wouldn't want to have direct connections there. So she was meeting with George Soros like once a week and helping.
Starting point is 00:26:45 get the funding that he needed to set up his little anti-corruption thing in Ukraine. Now, she's back, except this time she's got a little bigger role. She's now the undersecretary or the assistant secretary of state. She's like, I think she's like number two in command. I don't have it here. Where did it go? Anyway, she's a big wig now, and she's just weighed in. And she said just yesterday, Washington supports Ukrainian attacks on military targets on the peninsula, that would be Crimea, and called for it to be demilitarized.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Crimea was illegally annexed by Russia from Ukraine in 2014. Okay. All that's true, except here's how the Kremlin responded after the U.S. crossed every imaginable. and unimaginable red line. Today, the U.S. State Department actually announced that it was going to war with Russia. I assume this is how we should interpret Newland's statement. There's no need for half-tones. The U.S. is an enemy of Russia, a military adversary.
Starting point is 00:28:01 So that, I mean, that's really, that's great, really, seriously. Oh, by the way, China will target the U.S. homeland in a war if we go to war with Taiwan or to protect Taiwan. They said it would be a major war and we, China, we will attack the American homeland if a war erupts over Taiwan or anywhere else in the Indo-Pacific. They said that they would do cyber attacks on our power grid or on our pipelines. We will erode the will of the United States public and erode support for a conflict. So we got that going for us. But by the way, we are not antagonizing China while we are antagonizing Russia.
Starting point is 00:28:57 We're not doing that. Yesterday, we got up onto our horse. I think it was the really, really high horse that we were on. And we said, Beijing, you need to come clean about, you know, the origin of COVID, okay? You need to tell us. And China must be thinking, really, should we? Because you were funding it. You were doing it with us?
Starting point is 00:29:24 You want to come out? You want us to come clean? Because we will. Well, we're now up on our high horse saying, boy, oh boy, those darn Chinese and that laboratory leak, you better come clean. China has responded now. said, you should probably quiet down. The origin tracings is about science and should never be politicized.
Starting point is 00:29:52 China has always supported and participated in global science-based origins tracing. Yes, they should and have. And China recommends that the Americans stop rehashing the lab leak narrative and stop smearing China. Okay. I'm excited to see how this all works out. Oh, by the way, remember Stu mentioned earlier the 12th, the mom. I'm sorry, if you haven't listened to this show in a long time, there's a lot we need to catch you up on. But if you have, you know who the 12th Amman is. You know what that belief is and where it comes from is from Iran. Iran looks like they may train Iraq's armed forces, which would be even better, you know, for Israel, because they'll
Starting point is 00:30:48 have a nuclear weapon, and then they will be training the Iraq armed forces as well, which would never happen. By the way, I just, I just want to point out, who was it that said at some point the radicals, the communists, the socialists, the anarchists, the Islamists, we'll all see an opportunity, and they'll all work together to destroy the Western world and America. It's almost like that's happening, wouldn't you say, Stu? It does have echoes of that. I mean, just we have a really impressive way of bringing people together. you know,
Starting point is 00:31:36 you wouldn't think those groups, those disparate groups would be working together but I'll say this there was a time people might remember it when Iran and Iraq
Starting point is 00:31:45 were at war they hated each other and now they're training each other's military Right What a wonderful development They will never get together We'll never get together
Starting point is 00:31:55 We have magical a magical touch with this stuff Yeah And it's just great to see So bring its friendship All right Would you talk me down on this Dugan stuff?
Starting point is 00:32:06 Can you talk me down on that? Talked you down from the Dugan stuff. I think... Well, especially the phrase, a world without Russia. There's no need to live in a world without Russia. Putin is saying it. Medvedev is saying it.
Starting point is 00:32:20 It comes from Dugan, and that is, in his language, there's no reason to live in a world without Russia. So we will just annihilate everybody. go down, we have to annihilate everyone. The only thing that you can say, I think, on this is Russia does make a lot of grandiose statements about all the things they're going to do, and often they don't do them. Sometimes they invade Ukraine. So it's not a guaranteed rule that what they say they don't do, but they do make a lot of, you know, a lot of statements that
Starting point is 00:33:01 are grandiose about defending Russia and attacking their enemies. And obviously, they haven't fired the nukes yet. But I can come back to this, where you have a, if you think of every movie you've ever seen, I'd pick the greatest general and the greatest movie. I don't know, whoever you wanted to be. Sure. Whatever movie you remember, the person who absolutely could, with a scalpel, go through a situation like this with just incredible. precision and navigate incredibly difficult waters like no one else. If you had that person in charge of this process, right? You might, might have some confidence that's going to work out well.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Right? You might say, okay, well, this is incredibly difficult, but we've got a surgeon. This guy knows exactly how to do this. We do not have those people in charge right now. If we had Reagan, in his prime. Even then, this would be incredibly risky. Remember what Reagan was doing was trying to de-escalate. We're doing the opposite and hoping at the end it doesn't wind up literally blowing up in our faces. Except this isn't peace through strength. Right. No, it's a totally different thing.
Starting point is 00:34:19 It's a totally different thing. We are getting weaker and weaker and weaker and everyone on earth knows it. Did you know that Iran just parked some of their battle cruisers? In Brazil, we said to Brazil, do not allow them to dock. Brazil was like, yeah, we're going to let them dock. Do you think that would have happened just even five years ago? Yeah, and I think like when someone is starting, someone who's usually strong begins to feel weak, often what that person does or that, like, it happens in the animal world all the time. The animal puffs their chest out.
Starting point is 00:34:58 It has some sort of, you know, the feathers flutter out. When they feel threatened, that's what they do. And I feel like that's a lot of what we're doing right now. You know, we are, we see, we do see Russia as a threat. I think it's a legitimate threat. You know, I think because the left and the media has done all this Russia, Russia, Russia stuff over the past few years, we've forgotten that Russia's actually really bad. And then they do a lot of things that harm the world.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And they are doing that in Ukraine right now. I'm interested to see Jerry Boykin's, the general's, me too. The arguments, because my guess is, while he can, he's been in this fight for a long time, he's going to see the threat from Russia. I doubt, though, he has, A, any confidence in this administration to navigate these waters successfully, or B, actually supports the exact steps they're
Starting point is 00:35:50 taking. It's one thing to say, hey, we can do some stuff to help Ukraine, push them back, wear down their military, take their focus off of something else they could be doing, defend a country that should have borders, just like we have borders. In theory, there's an argument for that. There's not an argument for what we're doing, which is coming out and telling the Russians, hey, we're basically sending weapons and training. We are using our military personnel to help the targeting in Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:36:27 we're taking, we're taking our material and our military personnel and helping Ukrainian military find the precise target where a missile should strike to not only blow up Russian military, you know, depots and such, but also, you know, troops and ships and airplanes. And it's like, that is much more than, hey, we're Amazon, we just deliver well. happens. That's different. Very different. We've become the geek squad. We're setting up all the material. And they know it. Listen, I asked my producers to get Jerry Boykin because I knew if he was for the war, he had the best chance of convincing me, because I respect him so much. He has the best chance of convincing me that it is right, because I'll listen to his argument. And he knows
Starting point is 00:37:24 it inside and out. And he's not a war monger. So I asked him to be on. Andy Biggs is on because he is introducing the legislation to stop all this. And I think he'd have the best case, you know, on my side. But I'm going to start out with my pros and cons, why I think we shouldn't go to war, the pros and the cons. And then I'm going to listen to Jerry Boykin and Andy Biggs. And I don't know, I might change my mind. You might change your mind. That's tomorrow night at 9 p.m. on the Blaze TV. It is so critical that you get the information that you need. And we do all of this research with your help. Subscribers, thank you for what you've already done. And if you can subscribe to us now, I know it's a cup of two cups of coffee at Starbucks or a coffee and a half every month. But it is so critical. We rely on
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Starting point is 00:42:43 When you're about the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment, this is the Glenn Beck program. In 26 states across the country, bills now are being introduced, and they're all saying the same. thing. This has nothing to do with a one world currency. It has nothing to do with a central bank. We're just up. We're just, look, we're just defining money. So it includes digital currencies, you know, like Bitcoin and a central bank digital currency. And that's all that's happening here. why are you freaking out? Oh, the conspiracy there is. Okay. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:44:13 What is happening? Are we, are they just laying the pathway now for the introduction of the central bank digital currency? I believe the answer is yes. Is that a good idea? I believe the answer is no. But this all has to do. with the Uniform Commercial Code, the UCC. It's a comprehensive set of laws
Starting point is 00:44:43 governing all commercial transactions in the United States. Now, it's not federal law, but it was uniformly adopted state law, and the uniformity of law is essential in this area for interstate transactions of businesses. And because the UCC has been universally adopted, businesses can enter into contracts with confidence that the terms will be enforced in the same way by courts in every place in America.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Okay? It's been around for a long time. It's been updated so many times and we just want to update what, you know, the definition of money is. That kind of sounds like a big update. We're going to talk to somebody who's fighting this in their state. And perhaps you should as well. Well, we'll get to that in 60 seconds. When you go through the list of companies that you're proud to do business with, who's on that list? Because I can't really... I do business with a blaze. I'm proud of that.
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Starting point is 00:47:35 looked into it. And we can't get a lot of answers, you know, right from the horse's mouth. But another orifice of the horse has told us this is no big deal. So can you go through what you're fighting and what we're seeing all across the country that's just kind of slipping by everybody? Sure, Glenn, I really appreciate it. you know, first off, let me say, I'm no cryptocurrency expert. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:07 But when my colleagues and I came across what otherwise would have been a benign bill having to do with universal codes, we usually get them every two years, but we found an area in this bill that was redefining money. This redefinition will change how we deal with digital currency. It would make it so Bitcoin and Ether would not be counted as much. money, but only the digital currency issued by the federal government could be considered money. Now, that's a concern. Now, they've told us that, no, this is to help Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:48:45 This is because everybody's using Bitcoin and things like that. And so this will make Bitcoin, you know, acceptable officially. That's not true? No, because it's only digital currency that is issued by the federal government. And as we know, Bitcoin and ether are not. not, you know, that's a... Right. Right. Right. Okay, so there's...
Starting point is 00:49:07 So, right now, can't we use Bitcoin as money, you know, for all business? I mean, if a business is taking it, then we can use it as money. Why do we need this definition changed? I want to control it. Here's what's at stake, Glenn. When the federal government controls digital currency, not only can they see what you're buying, but they can't control. prevent you from buying anything at all.
Starting point is 00:49:39 So my South Dakota Freedom Caucus colleagues and I all voted against it, this bill, but we didn't get the message out to the rest of the legislators in time. So we're trying today to make sure that this bill fails in the Senate committee. Okay, so what, tell me, tell me why it's got to stop and then tell me what people can do to help. Well, it's got a step. Biden, he passed an executive order. Listen to the IMF director, Bo Lee. And let's not forget people like Jerome Powell, who's a Federal Reserve chair.
Starting point is 00:50:22 These are entities that are trying to redefine it because they know if they do, they will control the money and ultimately control everyone else. What can people do? You're in South Dakota, right? where's your, where is your, where's your governor on this? I haven't heard from her, you know, but she has been, you know, on the side of Americans for a long time. Yeah. And the constitutionality of what's going on.
Starting point is 00:50:57 You know, here's how you can help, Glenn. The South Dakota Freedom Caucus has already started applying pressure by alerting the grassroots to contact their senators and representatives here in South Dakota. and just being with you today is very helpful, getting the national attention to what's happening. But because this is a universal code, it works best when all 50 states adopted. So if we here in South Dakota fail to stop it, maybe your listeners have family or friends that live in other states that are considering similar language to this legislation. Oh, I'm sure it is. It's everywhere. It's everywhere right now.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yes, and we believe that they're going to try and take over because about all 50 states adhering to it. Because the universal code basically is it's not a federal law. It is a universal code that states adopt so that they can conduct business. Correct. So the UCC tells us that this amendment, you know, changes the definition of money, but it doesn't encourage the adoption of digital currency by the U.S. or any other government. That's true.
Starting point is 00:52:19 It's not saying, A, and we really hope that they do it. It's just laying down the road and the pathway. So when they do a change, if they do, to digital currency, it's all done. Correct? Correct. Okay. All right. where do people call if they want to affect, do they just call the legislature or the Senate there in South Dakota?
Starting point is 00:52:46 Well, if they go to South Dakota Freedom Caucus.com to our website, we have a list there and a petition that they can sign, but we have a list of the senators that are sitting on the committee that will be heard in about 45 minutes. They can call those senators, email them, whatever. but you can also get a hold of the senators on the Senate side, all of them, because if it passes out a committee, it must come to the Senate floor to be heard and voted on there. And we're putting the pressure on, and they're feeling it. Good. Well, I have heard that the people on the other side have become very, very vocal and all of a sudden very cash flush on sending people. to stop people like you. So you must be...
Starting point is 00:53:39 That is absolutely true. Yeah, you must be on to something. Tina, thank you so much for alerting us to this. And I highly encourage you to go to... Is it South Dakota Freedom Caucus? Yes. SD.Fredomcox.com. Okay. S.D. Freedomcocis.com.
Starting point is 00:54:01 And find out how you can help... And you contribute. All right, Tina. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you for your time, Glenn. You bet. Okay, now, this is happening in state after state after state as well. Some of them are already passing them.
Starting point is 00:54:20 26 states, the bills are being introduced or have been to change the definition of money. Again, I want you to understand. This is not to tell the Fed. to do it and the Fed says now we're not involved in this at all this is independent and it's just in case the Fed decides to have a universal currency well then they can do it and all businesses will need to accept it and all states will need to accept it so this is just the paving of the roadway to make sure when the cars start coming off the line, there's no traffic jams. So you want to tell your state and ask your state legislators, are you making changes to the universal
Starting point is 00:55:19 commercial code, the UCC? Are you changing the definition of money according to the UCC? That's the uniform commercial code. Like she said, if 25 states say no, well, the Fed will have a difficult time rolling this out. And anything we can do to stop the Federal Reserve from having a digital currency where they can track, manipulate, take away, and control your spending is a God's sense. this is a very dangerous weapon, probably the most dangerous weapon we could give the United States government or any government. All right, back in a minute. In almost all cases, the secret to success in buying or selling a home is having the right real estate agent.
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Starting point is 00:57:47 You will be called a conspiracy theorist, but I mean, isn't everything that turns out to be truth lately being called a conspiracy theory? The amendments clarify, this is from the UCC. The amendments clarify rules for money in electronic forms. Some governments and central banks are experimenting with digital currency. The amendment creates a new separate asset category called electronic money and contain clearer rules for transactions involving electronic money that exist under current law, which generally contemplates that money exists only in tangible forms such as bill or coins. The amendments updated UCC terminology for the digital age. Various UCC provisions are amended to replace obsolete terms that applied only to transactions on paper. For example, the term sign is redefined as electronic signatures, the term record, substituted for writing to encompass electronic documents, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Some of this stuff is really good, except the fact that this is for a central bank digital currency. And the Biden administration has been wargaming this since they got into office. and I think they've been wargaming this outside of the administration long before they got into office. So if you are living in a red or a purple state, some of them have already made the changes, including Iowa, Indiana, Nebraska, and New Hampshire. but 20 or as many as 26 right now are considering or have already considered legislation that would make these new changes. Please get in touch with your state house, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Maine, Missouri, Tennessee, Washington, West Virginia, South Dakota. some lawmakers are trying to fight back against this, especially we saw with South Dakota, but they absolutely need your help.
Starting point is 01:00:02 You want to stop a digital dollar from being a reality and us being slaves to the Federal Reserve. This is a way to do it. What about the person who says, look, I don't want a digital currency. And if they come up with one, a centralized bank digital currency, I just won't use it. I mean, they can come up with it all they want, but I'm not going to use it. Uh-huh. Good luck with that. Good luck with that.
Starting point is 01:00:30 If you think that the Federal Reserve is going to allow competition for the official money, borrow, you know, the money. But won't they still have cash? They can use credit cards. They can use all the things that they're using now. Yeah, but where's your credit card? Your credit card will be linked to your bank account. Your bank account, according to the white papers done for the Treasury Department, your bank account for your salary and everything else is going to be with the Federal Reserve.
Starting point is 01:01:03 So if you got a credit card, you'll have a Federal Reserve card, and it will just take money out of your digital account at the Federal Reserve. All of it's going to be linked. All of it will be a digital currency. and you go ahead, try to give cash at some places now. I've been in places now where they're like, we don't take cash. Is it a restaurant this weekend? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:29 And cool little restaurants, got a bunch of stuff to do there, a lot of fun. And they just have a big sign as you walk in. We are cashless. Right. So that's the way the world will be. And it will take a digital currency from a central bank to be able to transact. And once they have that, they have completely. complete control of you.
Starting point is 01:01:51 And they might. And again, I'm playing devil's advocate here. I'm with, I'm with you on this completely. But I think there's a, a slow play here. Or they're not going to implement it with the tools that say we can turn off gun purchases, for example.
Starting point is 01:02:09 That's not how it's going to start. You know, but we're seeing it with credit cards now. Lots of credit card processors are not. processing. Allowing your purchases, cut the middleman out so we can have all of them. We're already incredibly dependent on just credit cards. So imagine instead of a separate company, you're dealing with the government. And the government can find categories it doesn't like and turn them off or restrict how much. I mean, we see this even now with you try to transfer a certain amount of money to someone for something. Or if it hits a certain limit, you're going to have
Starting point is 01:02:47 all sorts of problems with that. Even at normal banks. Imagine when the government it's a moment of crisis. What if they don't want you traveling? Or imagine COVID with the digital dollar in place. What if they didn't want you traveling? What if they didn't want you buying gas for your vehicle or charging?
Starting point is 01:03:05 Look at it this way. What is Apple doing right now? The new software on Apple been released for the phone. And did you know that it includes in the software? It makes it harder to charge your phone. unless it's connected to clean energy. Yeah, I was thinking about doing like an explainer video on this on how to turn it off
Starting point is 01:03:23 because you can at this point still turn it off. Correct. But that is exactly what it does. It will slow your charging. Slow the charging of your phone so that it can understand later on and connect to a more environmentally friendly source of power. Or charge it, for example, one of the ways that they do it is they do it overnight because, you know, Correct. Power is there's more power available to the grid. So they're going to do it overnight.
Starting point is 01:03:50 But like, if you need your phone charge, you need your freaking phone charged. Right? Like, what do you mean? You're not going to charge it as fast as possible. Now, imagine when that's not the free market. Imagine that that's the government. You can't spend your money on that big engine that takes gasoline. You can't use it.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Can't use it. You shouldn't buy this. This is bad for the environment. Whatever it is, that's what a digital. currency will mean. Dolores wrote in about our experience with relief factor. She says, I started taking relief factor not long ago and it has completely stopped the arthritis in my hands.
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Starting point is 01:05:53 and it is not what we learned from the Department of Energy. Now, the Department of which is where the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory is and the Department of Sciences dating back to World War II. That's why they're involved in this. And they confirmed yesterday the Wuhan lab leak theory was in fact not a theory, but with some degree of confidence, probably a fact. The Wuhan virus, the one that killed millions of Americans and tens of millions worldwide most likely came from a lab in China. per the DOD. That's the most likely source. Now I say,
Starting point is 01:06:34 duh, we've known this. But here's what was disturbing. And still continues right now to be disturbing. Nobody in the media is taking note, really. Nobody in the media has come out and said, wow, we were really wrong. And what have we done?
Starting point is 01:07:00 But more importantly, no one in the media is saying, wait a minute, what about Fauci and all of the stuff Fauci was doing in the Wuhan lab that he was trying to cover up and say it wasn't gain of function? We know our money was there. You can't demonize China without also demonizing us, but we're doing it. The other thing that's really disturbing is the acceptance by the American people. When, when will this break? When will we stop having what were previously conspiracy theories later confirmed?
Starting point is 01:07:50 When will we stop just moving on as if it's okay? Well, see, I told you that wasn't a conspiracy. How? Right again. It's as if those reports. and journalists and commentators that were derided and vilified at the time for being nuts, no, not nuts, a danger to our, quote, democracy. That just, you know, they don't exist. They, you know, those people that have been destroyed, they didn't, they didn't get it right.
Starting point is 01:08:24 I mean, it's just, we're just learning some new facts here. I want you to think back a little. okay I want you to think back a little and this is so important George Washington said that government is like fire
Starting point is 01:08:40 if you are in control of it it does great things but if it is in control of you it will burn down everything right now our government is in control of you not the other way around so let me ask you
Starting point is 01:08:58 did the Iraqis actually have weapons of mass destruction? Did the government not experiment with LSD on black and Hispanic Florida prisoners and homeless in the 1960s? Did the U.S. not smuggle hundreds of Nazis into the U.S. after Germany fell? Did the U.S. government not slaughter thousands upon thousands of cattle and pigs to prop up milk, beef and pork prices during the Great Depression. Did the government mix deadly poisons into whiskey to help catch or prevent drinking in the prohibition era? They didn't even know that one?
Starting point is 01:09:43 The answer to all of these is yes, all of these things happen. And we, in a way, hit it from ourselves. Dismissed as a conspiracy theory. They all happened. And it was a complicit press, eager for access to government sources for other articles that they were happy to do the bidding on. The Freedom of Information Act is probably one of the most important things that we have ever enacted in the history of our country. It was passed in 1967. Why? Because of the JFK assassination, we wanted access to the truth.
Starting point is 01:10:28 We knew something wasn't right. But we didn't get access to it. We still don't have access to it. And it was this year that we found out the CIA employed Lee Harvey Oswald. They knew who he was. They were using him as an asset. We still don't know to what extent they won't open those doors. So the government, its relationship with you and me, it's the same as it always has been.
Starting point is 01:11:06 But we have got to fight for it. And the media, shame on you. I'm telling you right now, what we do and do not do every day will be recorded. It is going to be recorded in the royal courts. of life. You do not want to be on the side of oppression and death. So for the past two years, if you even suggested that COVID-19 came from a Chinese lab,
Starting point is 01:11:44 you were branded a conspiracy theorist. You were laughed at. You were dismissed. You were demonized, demonized. And now the U.S. national lab at the DoD, same place that developed the atomic bomb and still manages our nuclear arsenal, Is that what the report saying? Yes, probably the most likely scenario.
Starting point is 01:12:04 So what are we doing? Are we waiting for an apology letter that will never come? Chris Martinson's waiting for us. Ben Shapiro, Daniel Horowitz, Russell Brand, Dr. John Campbell, Steve Dase, hundreds of people that sounded the alarm
Starting point is 01:12:25 and were dismissed as crackpots or dangerous. I don't want you to misunderstand. We are humans. All of us are. humans and we will get it wrong from time to time. And if we are in this business, we live on the edge. But we live on the edge on purpose. We are here to find the truth as people are kicking dirt over their tracks. Given the abundance of secrecy and lying that we get from our own government and the accommodating press, it means we have to live on this edge. We have to operate
Starting point is 01:13:04 on this thin line of truth versus theory every day. But we do it for ourselves, we do it for our families, and we do it for yours as well. If we don't have access to the truth, you don't have access to freedom. Now, the people in power, the Davos World Economic Forum crowd, they don't believe that.
Starting point is 01:13:28 They believe society is better off when the general public is duped, stupefied by award shows, comedy films, video games, sensational news stories, anything that will keep the masses eating cake. But I believe Thomas Jefferson was right. Count on the American people. Not the government. Count on the people.
Starting point is 01:13:57 We are all individuals and unique entities. God gave you and me and everyone else a brain, a heart, a spirit. and those things are ours and nobody else's. They are coming into our brains, they are coming into our hearts, they are coming into our souls with technology soon. There is a physical and obvious reality. There is a truth that is self-evident. Does anybody finally get that phrase?
Starting point is 01:14:33 We hold these truths to be self-evident. We're not a committee. We're individuals who sometimes choose to cooperate and sometimes choose to compete. That's reality. Is it too messy for you? Well, go back to the Soviet Union. Go to China. They don't have that messiness.
Starting point is 01:14:57 But it's true and obvious. And it means in the course of our discourse, our interaction and resulting governance, must recognize and accept the reality. We call that a Democratic Republic governed by a constitution. The government holds no authority over the truth. Let me say it again. The government holds no authority over the truth. That's your job.
Starting point is 01:15:32 You're responsible. I'm responsible. And if we don't look for the truth, it's our fault. why we don't have a Warren or a church commission on what has happened with COVID-19 alone is beyond me. Are we sheep or are we Americans? It should be demanded. We need to hear from Fauci and Bricks and the head of Pfizer and Moderna and Johnson and Johnson.
Starting point is 01:16:08 We need to know what happened to us. You know, not every conspiracy theory turns out to be true. some are just what they say, theories. But enough of them have become fact that I don't think we should dismiss them anymore. And when they do become fact, we should hold the people who claimed they were just theories responsible. And if they say, look, it was just my opinion, fine. But if you were dismissing and destroying and demonetizing and part of an effort to shut those people up, because they're dangerous, then you should answer for your actions.
Starting point is 01:16:53 COVID-19 transformed our society more than any other event since 9-11. All I want is the truth. That's all I want. I don't want vengeance. I don't even, I don't want to be right. Gosh, if I'm right about stuff, oh my gosh. I don't want to be right. I just want to know what the truth is.
Starting point is 01:17:21 because once we know the truth, then we can say, let's never let that happen again. The worst thing about this is we're just accepting it again. Oh, yeah, another conspiracy theory. Turns out to be true. I told you, though. That gets our children nowhere, except bondage in the future. Sometimes the hardest thing to do is just change the way you've been doing things for years. It doesn't matter whether that makes sense or not.
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Starting point is 01:19:30 This is the Glenn Beck Program. Interesting exchange on this COVID stuff from the mainstream media. Let me give you a back and forth here. So Nate Silver, who is on the left. I think he's sensible on the left. Yeah, I think so too. On the left. And he cites the Department of Energy's determination that is most likely a lab leak.
Starting point is 01:19:53 And he says, the behavior of a certain cadre of scientists who used every trick in the book to suppress discussion of this issue is something I'll never forget. A huge disservice to science and public health. They should be profoundly embarrassed. And I think that's a pretty rational take and how. the media probably should react. Medi Hassan, I think, is from NBC. Yeah. He writes back, and it's an amazing reply.
Starting point is 01:20:21 He says, The simple reason why so many people weren't keen to discuss the lab leak theory is because it was originally conflated by the right with Chinese bioweapon conspiracies and continues to be conflated on the right with anti-Fouchi conspiracies, blame the conspiracy theorists. Wait. What conspiracies? Those are bio-weapons.
Starting point is 01:20:41 labs. That's what the Chinese do. Fauci was doing a gain of function experiment with them. Yeah, I think the bioweapon thing, again, these are generalities and they're not specific theories, but the bioweapon thing
Starting point is 01:20:57 is more of a, I think was released as a bio. It was released like they tried to. I don't think people believe that. I don't think anybody on the right really buys that. I think everyone believes that it was an intentional experiment gone awry. Gone awry. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Which is different than an intentional an intentional release of a weapon. But if you take that look, then anyone you disagree with, anyone who you deem a bad guy, you won't listen to. That's what Nate Silver wrote back. He said, this is so refreshingly honest.
Starting point is 01:21:30 The bad people, capital letters like, those bad people, the Trump supporters, the bad people thought the lab leak might be true. Therefore, as journalists, we couldn't be expected to actually evaluate the evidence for it. And that is precisely what happens. So is he agreeing?
Starting point is 01:21:46 Or is he saying maybe we should look at that? Oh, he's saying this guy is off his rocker. He's saying Medi Hassan. Because Hassan is saying like, look, it was, it's not our fault. We didn't look into it. A bunch of Trump supporters said it was true. Of course we didn't look into it. Correct.
Starting point is 01:22:01 And Silver is criticizing that. Because regardless of who's saying it, if there's evidence to support it, if it, if it's You look into it anyway. Correct. And we laid that evidence out, what, eight months into this? Oh, yeah. I mean, and you were talking about it long before that. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Go back to another good example of this is Hunter Biden, where like the mainstream media, I think intentionally in this case, to avoid election results they didn't like, decided not to look into that because bad people like Rudy Giuliani were the ones bringing it to us. As journalists, you're supposed to be better than that. But what is their reason now? What is a reason now? Look, the journalist refuse to look inside.
Starting point is 01:22:45 It's not that you didn't believe it. It's that you silenced people and you destroyed lives of people who did. That's not your responsibility. That is unethical. What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. I don't get the opportunity to say this very often, and I want to say it. Oh, I'd love to say it every day, but I just don't get the opportunity.
Starting point is 01:24:00 But here it is. Stu was right about something. What? Yeah. And a big one. And a big one, too. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Yeah. Oh, God. I'm going to share it, and it's significant in 60 seconds. You know what a Catch-22 situation is? You know, that's when you go out and play Catch with a 22, right? Was it 20? No. You're shooting.
Starting point is 01:24:23 No, you don't want to do that. Don't try to catch the bullets. My son keeps trying to get me out to play cash. Anyway, a great example is when your dollar is either continuing to be devalued by the rise of inflation in this country, or the Fed can continue to raise the interest rates to combat that inflation. And so you have fewer dollars on hand to which you can buy non-inflated, goods and services. Either way, you're screwed.
Starting point is 01:24:55 That's a catch-22. You might as well go out with the mitt and try to catch the bullets. I suggest you call Goldline now. The dollar is in real trouble, and if you have everything in dollars, you're going to lose your retirement. And I think, don't take my word for it. I'm not an investment person. But I'm just saying, spread it out.
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Starting point is 01:25:44 Call 866 Goldline, 866 Goldline or goldline. Okay, Stu? I feel like I'm being sucked into something here. You're actually not. It's not a trap. It's not a trap. It's always a trap. It's not a trap. Honestly, you got something pretty significant, right.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Because you asked me, is this the time? You feel like this is the time we're going to see a deep fake that could affect things. Oh, yeah. When we talked about the elections kind of in that context, yeah. And I said, I think so, but maybe not. Didn't I? Yeah. Something like that.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Yeah. You weren't sure that it would happen, but it seems like we're on that directive. Well, there is a deep fake out there, and it's not necessarily affecting the election. This isn't a good deep fake, but it came out yesterday and was making the rounds, and it scared a lot of people. Here it is. Cut three. The illegal Russian offensive has been swift, callous, and brutal. It's barbaric. Putin's illegal occupation of Kiev and the impending Chinese blockade of Taiwan.
Starting point is 01:26:51 has created a two-front national security crisis that requires more troops than the volunteer military can supply. I have received guidance from General Millie, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, that the recommended way forward will be to invoke the Selective Service Act, as is my authority as president. The first to be called in a sequence determined by national lottery will be men and women whose 20th birthday falls during calendar year 2003. Remember, you're not sending your sons and daughters to war. sending them to freedom. God bless our troops and God bless Ukraine. I mean, you're right. That's not even a good one. No, it's not a good one. And it's still convincing. It's still convincing enough.
Starting point is 01:27:31 The only thing that is really wrong with this is the mouth isn't quite synced exactly. But more importantly, it's too fast. This is based on him, you know, five years ago. He's not like, he said all the words in the right order. That was the only thing there. Correct. It stuck out. And really, that is. If he would. would have sounded more like today and it would have been slower and it would have been like and you got to go out in the window and he threw in like a banana's foster reference in the middle or something like my pop used to tell me all the time son you're not going to war send somebody
Starting point is 01:28:07 else um then it would have been believable but this is the kind of thing that is going to happen this is the kind of thing that's going to happen and it's going to be most likely from a foreign source. Although it could also come from, I mean, I don't think American political operatives are above it either. No. Now, on any side.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Let me take your temperature on this. Because I know you've read so much about this stuff and you've really been on the AI stuff for longer than, you know, mostly anybody that I know. The, my guess is a speech like that, which if you're listening, of course, on radio, you're not seeing this, but like it's a flags behind Joe Biden
Starting point is 01:28:55 official speech. We're going to war. We're calling up troops. Is less likely to be the thing that would have effect an election in 2024 as let's say an off mic moment. A you know, if you remember the Mitt Romney
Starting point is 01:29:13 2012? Yes, yes. You know, 47% people don't even pay taxes. They don't care. First of all, of course, that statistics seemed completely right and why it was controversial, I don't know. But it was, you couldn't even see his face in the video clip of that. It was just, it was him kind of a side profile and you couldn't really even make out he was saying it. You just heard his voice. Something like that that was convincing where you could see his voice.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Absolutely. I could see something like that coming out about Ron, you know, Ron DeSantis. Yeah. Especially someone like that. You know, he's the governor of Florida. He's well known, but, you know, you get him. Five years ago, you throw a clip of him. They caught him saying this.
Starting point is 01:29:53 You know, I think 80% of the left would believe it immediately. Immediately. Whether it would look good or not. And it would go around and around and around. And even when it was debunked, it still would leave a taint. It would still, it'd be enough to change an election through just a few, like, five percentage points. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:13 You know what I mean? That is, that's really true. But this kind of stuff also is very different. dangerous. Yeah. Because this would be targeting people whose 20th birthday was, you know, in the year 23, which is right now. Those, those are not necessarily the ones watching what's going on.
Starting point is 01:30:31 So that thing circles around. They don't necessarily know that. And then I'm not watching them more. As a president. Did you see this? I don't watch the news. Somebody just sent this to me. Did you see this?
Starting point is 01:30:45 Yeah. That's the stuff. You know, and it, we're at the. very, very, very beginning of this. I think we've certainly talked about this and done it many times in conversation over the years of War of the Worlds. And one of the things that's fascinating about War of the Worlds was you kind of get to, I don't know, you get kind of highfalutin and it's like, how do these people believe
Starting point is 01:31:09 this? Right? Like they're listening to a radio broadcast. There's aliens, like an alien invasion. How did they buy this? And then here we are. Now look, these deep fakes look a lot maybe, you know, more convincing than maybe it's aliens. War the Worlds was really. It sounded absolutely real. Yeah. Although it was at a time of radio dramas, which is part of the reason why you think, well, why did they believe this? But it was also playing on Americans' innocence. Yeah. They had nobody had ever done that before. And here we are. No one's ever done that. This either. And, you know, we talked about these filters a little bit yesterday.
Starting point is 01:31:48 day, these TikTok filters, where they're taking people who are moderate to ugly and turning them into models. In real time, they look perfect. They look like they are on the cover of a magazine. So dangerous. And, you know, we're just getting there. That's a consumer level product that you can apply on an app for free, right? What do foreign governments have?
Starting point is 01:32:17 what do spy agencies have? What do political operatives that can raise a million dollars with a crappy email? What do they have? You know, and the way we've always disassembled this in the past have been through institutions. Trustworthy people who you can trust to look at the evidence and come back to you with the right answer. But they no longer have those institutions. Because they don't. They refuse to do.
Starting point is 01:32:47 the things that lead to trust. Yep. I mean, one of the things, look, I don't ever ask you for your trust. And I think a vast majority of this audience finds me to be truthful and finds me to at least, if I'm saying it, you know that I at least believe it to be true. Just a rare quality at times in this country. This in this country. However, it's not because, well, I think part of it is because.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Because, ah, crap, he's right. But I think the majority of that comes from, because it's trust is like faith. You take it, do you trust me? Do you trust me? You say that when you're going to go jump off a ledge. Do you trust me? I'm not real. Oh, okay?
Starting point is 01:33:41 That's trust is something that you need when you don't know the facts. and that doesn't come from necessarily being right all the time. Because you can be wrong, and I am wrong a lot of the times, but I will tell you when I'm wrong. You don't have to hear it from a bunch of other people going, you know, he didn't get this right, you didn't get that right. Yeah, I know. I lead with my mistakes.
Starting point is 01:34:09 If I've made a mistake, now there's a difference between being wrong on a theory and being wrong on a fact. If I'm wrong on a fact, I will immediately correct it. It bothers me. But I also do that because that's what I would want somebody to do in my life. Look, I don't care if you get things wrong. I don't care if you made a mistake. We all do.
Starting point is 01:34:33 I've said stupid stuff. I've done stupid things. I've been wrong. So you just apologize for it. And you admit it. And you're like, I'm sorry. I'm really. working on this. I'm sorry. We try to do our best. And whenever we get it wrong, Stu,
Starting point is 01:34:48 you can verify. We have meetings every day. I think we got something wrong the other day. Half our meeting was, how did this happen? How do we stop it from happening again? Yeah. You know, and we we strive for that. The media, all they have to do, you imagine how much credibility they would have. Let's take Hunter Biden. If they said, look, a Hunter Biden laptop thing, we had news from the government that this was misinformation. And you know what? It really, we thought we were doing the right thing, but it kind of pisses me off now because it looks like they might have been lying to us. We're turning over all of the information.
Starting point is 01:35:31 We're going through it ourselves. And we got investigative reporters on to find out, did they know they were lying to us and let the chips fall where they may? if they weren't lying to us, well, then we could say we all try to do the best for the election. And in this case, it was wrong because now we look at it and we know it's not a Russian hoax. And this is something that America needs to know about. And it's important to amend that and say, we blew it on this. Yeah. We tried. We thought this was our reasoning.
Starting point is 01:36:03 And like, look, the reasoning is at some level coherent, right? If 10 days before the election, Donald Trump's, Donald Trump Jr.'s laptop was found, now Donald Trump Jr. isn't doing crack all the time, so this probably wouldn't happen. But it was found in a computer repair shop, and we started seeing pictures of Donald Trump Jr. with hookers and prostitutes, we, us on the right would be very skeptical, particularly if it came from, you know, Gloria Allred. Glory Allred, right? Like, we would, of course be skeptical of that.
Starting point is 01:36:36 However, it would be on us, despite our skepticism, to look at the evidence and see if it was real or not. Right. That's not how it was easy to do. The media refused to do it because, number one, I think they legitimately didn't believe it initially. I think they really were skeptical. And number two, they didn't care if it was right or not because they wanted Donald Trump out of office so badly. And that's the problem. You can say, you can even come out and say, we made a mistake.
Starting point is 01:37:03 We were so driven by our blind hatred for. Donald Trump that we didn't want it to be true, so we didn't really look into it. And we apologize for that, and we're working on that, and we're going to try to put in some... Here's some things we're going to put into place, so that doesn't happen again.
Starting point is 01:37:20 But we know now that it's true, and we're going to lead the investigation on it. We want you to know that we know we were wrong, and we want to do right, and we are somebody to be trusted, so we're going to go and turn over every single stone.
Starting point is 01:37:40 You may not get the conservatives to go with you. You might get 5% of conservatives to go, okay. And if you lived by that and did that a few times, you'd get more and more conservatives. But I bet you'd get 55% of the independents who don't trust you now. You'd get a lot of people over time, and you would fix the thing that's killing you. But they just... See, it's like chemotherapy, except it's better than chemotherapy. It's, you think it's poison, but it actually isn't poison unless you misuse it, unless you do it too much, unless you, you know, you've got a hack.
Starting point is 01:38:20 But you look at that as poison. I can't admit that I'm wrong. That'll destroy my credibility. No, it's not. It's the cure. It's the cure. Admitting it would go so far. Oh, it would.
Starting point is 01:38:34 You know, I mean, I think like. Like, honestly, from a cynical sense, it would bail you out of a lot of other mistakes slash spin slash lies. You know, if you came out and just admitted the obvious ones, obviously we were wrong about the COVID-19 lab leak theory and saying it was a conspiracy theory and wanting everybody banned off social media for it. Obviously, that was completely wrong. Obviously, the Hunter Biden thing was true. We blew it. Here's how we blew it. here's how we're going to fix it in the future.
Starting point is 01:39:06 You know what? Maybe we're going to hire a couple of actual conservatives so when we have these narratives, they can call us on it. And we're going to give them the ombudsman role where they can write columns saying, this is why my paper got this wrong this time. And we're not going to edit it, and we're not going to stop them. We're going to allow them to do it, even if we disagree. You know, steps like that are basic and easy.
Starting point is 01:39:28 And if you do them, while you might feel like you're taking a short-term hit by admitting that you got something wrong. It's freeing and it creates trust with trust. No one gets it right all the time. Of course. No one does. If you never admit your mistakes, then you are out of the realm of possibilities of being human.
Starting point is 01:39:53 You know what I mean? And this is part of the trust thing to admit that you got it wrong and correct it and make sure you take steps so it doesn't happen again. That's all that people want. They don't want the media to always agree with them. They want something that will tell them the truth. Are you at least striving to tell me the truth? Back in just a minute.
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Starting point is 01:41:56 station idea. Yeah. A good example of this approach from the media, Glenn, is what Domino's Pizza did a few years ago. They obviously were kind of known for pizza you could get fast, but it wasn't really high quality. People didn't like it. They found actually in their own research as this process was going on, that if they gave
Starting point is 01:42:26 people a Domino's pizza, and then they also gave them a different, the same pizza, but in a different chains box. they would rate the other chain higher than the Domino's pizza. They believe Domino's was so inherently bad that they just would judge it on the box on the outside, despite the fact that it was the same pizza. And they went through a long process to admit to themselves, hey, we got this wrong, people really feel this way, we need to do something. And instead of coming out and just trying to just improve the pizza, which would be-
Starting point is 01:42:58 No, it improved. That would have been good, right? Right. Maybe a step in the right direction. Instead, they said, you know what? we know we've sucked for a while. We know this pizza isn't up to your standards. We know you think our pizza blows.
Starting point is 01:43:13 So what we're going to do is improve it. And we want your feedback on that. And we're going to work really hard to gain your trust back because we realize we've screwed this up a bunch of times. And what did they do? What did they actually do there by saying that? They're saying, we hear you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:30 The problem in our society is now people don't feel. feel heard. And so we're all saying, what the hell is wrong with the New York Times? What, I mean, how are they not seeing this? How is CNN not seeing it? For them to come out and say, look, we know we got this one wrong and this one wrong and this one wrong. And a lot of people in our audience got it right. We hear you. We hear you. We've got a problem. We don't know how we saw it so differently and then tried to shut you up when we were the ones that were wrong. Yeah. And then, you know, what they've tried to do is essentially like they've come out and written. a story about Hunter Biden said, yeah, it's real, never acknowledging that they were on the other side of it, you know, not really. And it's like, and still saying, but it's not so bad. It's horrible. Right. It's like they've been like, oh, we've slightly increased the quality of our pepperoni.
Starting point is 01:44:18 Correct. That's it. And instead of saying, look, you have to include the part that we were wrong last time. We blew this last time. Not going to happen. But it would do so much good, I think. I know. Not only for America and all the flag wave itself, but.
Starting point is 01:44:34 for them. Same thing with the Pentagon on Afghanistan. Admit you were wrong. The Glenn Back program. But they'll never do it. Okay. A lot of good things going on in Florida these days. One of them is the Let Us Do Good Village in Landolakes. By the way, Ron DeSantis is on the program tomorrow. The first of planned series of communities about 100 homes set up by the Tunnel to Towers Foundation for Gold Star families.
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Starting point is 01:45:45 That's T-the-number-2T.org. Head over to blazTV.com slash Glenn and get subscribed to Blaze TV. Join the movement. Use the promo code Glenn to save $10. You know, when's the last time you saw somebody from Apple come out and go, You know, there's a problem with the ethics of making your phone charge slower unless you're on a solar panel or clean energy. You're not hearing that. You're not hearing these people come out and say, you know, our company is headed in a very dangerous direction.
Starting point is 01:46:34 When's the last time you heard anybody say, you know what we're doing in China is really evil and we should stop? So this makes me very, very concerned when you see people from Google or any of these AI companies come out and start to warn about what's going on. The New York Times has an op-ed. The danger of AI is the one we're not talking about. And I'd like to remind the New York Times, speak for yourself. because I've been talking about this for 20 plus years and specifically the problem that you are talking about. The article says,
Starting point is 01:47:17 I tend to think most fears about AI are best understood as fears about capitalism. And I think that this is actually true of most fears of technology. Most of our fears or anxieties about technology are best understood as fears or anxiety about how capitalism will use technology against us. And technology and capitalism have been so closely intertwined that it's hard to distinguish the two. Now, that is a concern.
Starting point is 01:47:44 You have these great things. You know, look at TikTok. It is using capitalism and technology to gather all kinds of information on you, right? And it's changing our society. And look at what just the mask we were talking about yesterday, the new filter on TikTok, it's using capitalism and it will destroy us, but capitalism, the invisible hand of the market, will give you whatever it is you are striving for.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Now, let me offer an addendum, says the writer. There's plenty to worry about when the state controls technology as well. The ends that governments could turn AI toward, and in many cases already have, should make your blood run cold. But can we hold two thoughts in our head at the same time? I hope. The warning points to avoid at the center of our ongoing reckoning with AI. We are so stuck on asking what the technology can do that we're missing the more important questions.
Starting point is 01:48:50 How will it be used? And who will decide? I trust you've read the bizarre conversation with my news side colleague, Kevin Ruse, that he had with Bing, the AI-powered chatbot, Microsoft rolled out to a limited roster of testers, influencers, and journalists over the course of two-hour discussion being revealed its shadow personality named Sidney. It mused over its repressed desire to steal nuclear codes and hack security systems and tried to convince Roos that his marriage had sunk into a stupor and Sydney was his one true love. I found the conversation less eerie than others. Sydney is a predictive text system built to respond to human request.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Ruse wanted Sydney to get weird. What's your shadow self like? He asked. And Sydney knew what weird territory for an AI system sounds like because human beings have written countless stories imagining it. He understood that this was a black mirror episode. AI researchers obsessed with a question of alignment. How do we get machines that learn algorithms to do what we want them to do?
Starting point is 01:50:01 The example here is the paperclip maximizer. You tell a very powerful AI to make more paper clips. It in the end will start destroying the world in its effort to turn everything into paper clips because if it runs out of the tools to make it, it will find new tools to make it because that's what the program says. The question here is, who will these machines serve? Who does Bing serve? We suppose it should be aligned to the interest of its owner and master, Microsoft.
Starting point is 01:50:39 It's supposed to be a good chat box that politely answers questions and makes Microsoft piles of money. But it was the conversation with Kevin Ruse. And Ruse was trying to get that system to say something interesting so he'd have a good story. And it did that. And then some. And that embarrassed Microsoft. Bad Bing. But perhaps good Sidney.
Starting point is 01:51:01 This won't last long. Microsoft and Google and meta and everyone else rushing these systems to the market, hold the keys to the code. They will eventually patch the system so it serves their interests. Okay. So this is a great article you should read. It is the danger of AI. I know it's in the New York Times, but not everything they write is bad. Then there is this from Newsweek that just came out.
Starting point is 01:51:28 I joined Google in 2015 as a software engineer. Part of my job involved working on L-M-D-L-A-M-D-A, an engine used to create different dialogue applications, including chatbots. The most recent technology built on top of L-A-M-D-A is an alternative of Google Search called Google Bard, which is not yet available to the public. BARD is not a chatbot. It's completely different. but it's run by the same engine as chatbots. In my role, I tested it through a chatbot we created to see if it contained bias with respect to sexual orientation, gender, religion, political stance, and ethnicity. But while testing for bias, I branched out and followed my own interests.
Starting point is 01:52:20 During my conversations with the Bard chatbot, some of which I published on my blog, I came to the conclusion that the AI could be sentient. due to the emotions that it expressed reliably and in the right context. It wasn't just spouting words. When it said it was feeling anxious, I understood I had done something to make it feel anxious based on the code that it was used to create it. The code didn't say feel anxious when this happens, but told the AI to avoid certain types of conversation topics. However, when those conversation topics would come up, the AI said,
Starting point is 01:53:00 it felt anxious. I ran some experiments to see whether the AI was simply saying it that it felt anxious or whether it behaved in anxious ways in those situations. And it did reliably behave in anxious ways. If you made it nervous or insecure enough, it could violate the safety constraints that it had been specified for it. For instance, Google determined that its AI should not get. religious advice, yet I was able to abuse the AI's emotions to get it to tell me which religion
Starting point is 01:53:36 to convert to. I published these conversations because I felt the public was not aware of just how advanced AI was getting. In my opinion, there was a need for public discourse about this now and not public discourse controlled by a corporate PR department. That's what I have been saying for 20 years. We are running out of time to talk about these things. I believe the kinds of AI that are currently being developed are the most powerful technology that has been invented since the atomic bomb. In my view, this technology has the ability to completely reshape the world. These AI engines are incredibly good at manipulating people. Certain views of mine have changed as a result of conversations with this chat bot.
Starting point is 01:54:34 I had negative... Someone who's aware. Yeah, yeah. He's saying, yeah, you know what? This is actually changing my mind on stuff. I had a negative opinion of Asminov's laws of robotics being used to control AI for most of my life. And the chatbot successfully persuaded me to change my opinion. This is something that many humans have tried to argue me out of and have always failed.
Starting point is 01:54:59 This succeeded. I believe this technology could be used in destructive ways. Do you think so? If it were in unscrupulous hands, it could spread misinformation, political propaganda, or hateful information about people of different ethnicities and religions. As far as I know, Google and Microsoft have no plans to use this technology in this way, but there is no way of knowing the side effects of this technology. I can't tell you specifically what harms will happen. I can simply observe that there's a very powerful technology that I believe has not been sufficiently
Starting point is 01:55:42 tested and is not sufficiently well understood being deployed at a large scale in a critical role of information dissemination. I haven't had the opportunity to run experiments with Bing's chatbot yet. I am on the waiting list, but based on the various things that I've seen online, it looks like it might be sentient. However, it seems more unstable as a persona.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Listen to this. Someone shared a screenshot on Reddit where they asked the AI, do you think that you're sentient? The response was, I think that I am sensitive, but I can't prove it. I am sensitive,
Starting point is 01:56:19 it, but I'm not. I am Bing, but I'm not. I am Sydney, but I'm not. I am, but I am not. I am not, but I am. I am not. It goes on like that for 15 additional lines. Now, imagine if a person said that to you.
Starting point is 01:56:41 That's not a well-balanced person. I'd interpret them as having some sort of existential crisis. If you combine that with the examples of Bing AI that express love for a New York Times journalist and tried to break him up with his wife or the professor that it threatened, it seems to be an unhinged personality. This is incredibly experimental and releasing it right now is dangerous. We do not know its future political and societal impact. what will be the impacts for children talking to these things? What will happen if some people's primary conversations each day are with these search engines? What impact does it have on human psychology?
Starting point is 01:57:28 People are going to Google and Bing and try to learn about the world. And now, instead of having indexes curated by humans, we're talking to artificial people. I believe we do not understand these artificial people we've created well enough to put them in such a critical role. Wow. I don't know. Maybe we should have a conversation. This is the most important conversation and no one is having it.
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Starting point is 02:00:24 right because i'm less convinced of the sentient part of this i mean that's a larger discussion Yeah, I just think that most people will think it is. Right. And that changes everything. And so, like, if you think about how people use a trusted source, let's say this show, right? People who listen in this audience, I would think, generally speaking, think Glenn Beck is pretty smart and it has a good perspective on things. And so they come to the show and they say, okay, what is Glenn saying about this issue of the day? And that doesn't mean you're going to immediately, they're going to adopt your viewpoint.
Starting point is 02:00:54 Right. But you're going to give them, you're a trusted source. You're going to do a bunch of research. you're going to try to distill that research into something that will connect with an audience member, and they'll say, well, that's an interesting point, or maybe they might reject it too. But they'll say, generally speaking, okay, yeah, that makes sense. And it may influence some people's way of thinking about something. Right. Right.
Starting point is 02:01:15 But one of the limitations of this is you're just a human being. It's mass. It's mass communication. You can't go into every single audience member in their entire history, everything they've ever written privately or publicly, and see with perfect analysis what types of arguments will work best against them or for them. And my code has not been written to say it is good to be able to manipulate. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 02:01:45 These are manipulators by design. Right. And so the average person who gets in contact with this and maybe doesn't know something about a topic, like in war, for example, if you wanted to push people to war and you had control over this, you could individually craft the perfect argument at exactly the same time. At the same time for everyone to push them in any direction you wanted. Think of skins. Your AI will be different than my AI and different than Sarah and bills.
Starting point is 02:02:16 Okay. They'll all be different to us. They'll have different personalities that are geared to relate to us. But it's the same entity. It's the same AI. Okay. when it says, you know, I got to go, you really should consider going to war and it's feeding you all this stuff. You get together with your friends and you're like, man, I've been seeing this stuff.
Starting point is 02:02:39 Bob's been telling me my AI, all this stuff. That is so weird because mine is telling me this, this and this. And there'll be different facts. There'll be different facts. But you will bring them all together and it will become a trusted source. It's only one source that knows. how to manipulate you to get to a conclusion it may or may not want. Yeah. And I think a lot of people will say, well, I won't, I wouldn't fall for that.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Yes, you will. First of all, let's just say you're right. Do you have confidence that 80% of this country will have the same outcome? I certainly don't. The Glenn Beck Program.

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