The Glenn Beck Program - The Most Insane Deep-State Revolt You've Never Heard Of | Guests: Peter Schweizer & Darren Beattie | 8/26/25
Episode Date: August 26, 2025President Trump recently made multiple moves, including signing an executive order aimed at eliminating cashless bail in Washington, D.C. Trump also floated the idea of changing the name of the Depart...ment of Defense to the Department of War. Glenn gives a history lesson on the agency and explains why he supports the name change. Is Trump the most anti-war president we’ve had in decades? Glenn reads through the requirements of the JFK Presidential Fitness Test, from the beginner to the expert. Can any high school student today accomplish even one of the requirements? Glenn discusses Trump’s executive order that aims to criminalize burning the American flag. U.S. Institute of Peace acting President Darren Beattie joins to discuss what the Institute of Peace is and how the DOGE exposed that the agency was funding a member of the Taliban. Host of “The Drill Down” Peter Schweizer joins to discuss why Trump’s decision to allow 600,000 Chinese students to come to America is dangerous. Detransitioner Claire Abernathy joins to discuss what she experienced when she was 14 years old and thought she was the opposite gender — and the permanent damage she now has because of what the doctors recommended. Glenn gives some perspective on the heartbreaking story of a girl who fled the dangers of Ukraine, only to be tragically murdered in North Carolina. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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America, welcome to the Gledbeck program. I will tell you that Stu and I've been talking a lot
about all of the different things that are in the news today. The one that we keep getting stuck on is
of the president's fitness test
because neither of us could even come close to it.
And Stu is like, you know, that's outrageous.
That's, Stu, I looked up the fitness test from John F. Kennedy in 1962.
Ah, I don't think you're going to like it.
I don't think you're going to like it.
It makes this one look like a wuss test.
I'll give that to you here in just a second.
Also, flag burning, the tariffs and everything else that is on board for today.
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All right. That's a couple of things we have to go through. First of all, you know, the number one search today,
what's trending on Google is cashless bail. What is cashless bail? Cashless bail is when somebody is
arrested and charged with a crime.
They may be released before trial if they can pay bail.
That is the financial guarantee that you're actually going to show up in court.
Cashless bail removes money from the equation.
So instead, a judge decides to release, you know, a release is based on other factors.
The severity of the crime, the person's criminal history, whether they pose a risk to the
public or if they're going to, you know, leave.
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cash. That's easy. Now, some people are saying, you know, there shouldn't be justice shouldn't be for sale. It's not. Safety is what everybody's worried about. Not justice. And, you know, the left sees cashless bail is a step towards, you know, fairness. You know, I, who, I tend to look at it as, you're just letting the person out. Just letting the person out. I mean, I don't, I'm not for excessive bail. That's in the Constitution. You cannot have excessive bail. I think this is the
the exact opposite of excessive bail.
You know, this is no bail.
And there are some things that are tried and true and have been going on for a long,
long time that prove to show results when you're trying to stop crime.
Bail is one of them.
Excessive bail is a sign of real problems in a society.
No bail, I believe, is a problem of real, a real problem in societies, ours in particular.
So that's what cashless bail is.
Let me get that off the plate.
Okay.
I want to talk about the defense department.
Now maybe being the Department of War.
You know, Trump is, Trump is, he's just nonstop.
He just doesn't stop.
Every day, it's like, I've heard it described by some people as Christmas every morning.
You wake up and you're like, what's under the tree today?
Sometimes it is coal.
Sometimes it's not
Sometimes it's a new bike that you've been waiting for forever
But every day he has got something else
Underneath the tree for us to open up
There's a couple of today that
Need to be opened and discussed
And one of them is the Department of Defense
Or the Department of War
And when I first heard this
I thought I don't know how I feel about that
Because I want to be defensive
I don't want war
Who wants war war is so yicky
It's so scary.
I don't want war.
Okay, for the first 158 years of our republic, that's what it was.
It was the Department of War.
Why?
Because we were off again on again.
We didn't have this big Department of Defense.
We didn't have a standing army.
When we had to go to war, we just got everybody together and said, bring your guns in.
And we had a Department of War that would open up and we could fight that war.
Then we would send everybody home.
We had that during, you know, Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the trenches of France, the beaches of Normandy, all of them. What changed? Well, Harry Truman came into office in 1947 and it was, you know, the most destructive war of all time, but the war that would change everything. And Truman recognized that we had to have a standing army. Well, America.
were against that. They didn't want a standing army.
We were like, well, wait, wait, wait, what?
Because it was such a huge change.
And so Truman convinced everybody that we had to have a standing army because of now the bomb and everything else.
So he established the military and within two years it was called the Department of Defense.
Okay. Why did he do that? Was that an act of political correctness?
before we had a term, you know, for that.
Was it meant to sue the war-weary public?
Remember, we had been through two world wars in 20 years.
Is this trying to soften us and say, we're not the aggressor?
We don't have a Department of War.
We have a Department of Defense.
We are only a defender.
You know, or was it something else?
What happened with the next president?
Because the president that did this is Truman.
Who was the next president?
The next president was Eisenhower, the general.
He was the general that led the troops on the beaches of Normandy.
He was the five-star Allied commander of World War II.
He becomes president.
And what is the last act he does in office?
The last act he does is give a speech where he's like,
hey, I just want to warn you.
You know me.
I kind of like, you know, I kind of like the military.
You know, I fought kind of several wars.
The big one you might have remembered.
WW2, you know, the big one.
I was there.
And I just want you to know, we're in trouble because there's this military industrial complex
and a military educational complex.
And those two are going to get together and it's going to be really bad for America
unless we all pay attention.
What he was saying was, we now have a Department of Defense full time.
And you might think it's for defense, but it's not.
It is going to start doing things that it shouldn't do.
And it's going to start convincing you that we should be at war when maybe we shouldn't
because it will be good for the military industrial complex.
And so after we went to the Department of Defense, now it's not just because of the name,
but after we went to the Department of Defense, because we had an established military now that was full time,
we started spending money like there was no tomorrow, and we started working on weapons,
and those weapons had to be used and proliferated and everything else, and we ended up here.
So the president comes out, and he says, I really, really think we need the Department of War.
And everybody is like, wait a minute, I don't know if I liked the Department of War.
Truman, I think, was rebranding it for peacetime.
Donald Trump is saying, and I quote,
I don't want to be defense only.
We want defense, but we want offense too.
And he is tapping into something that is a true.
You know, you have to be, well, strength, you know, peace through strength.
This was Ronald Reagan.
I think Donald Trump is taking this a step further.
We're talking about this on the same, we're talking about this on the same
he said we should get rid of all of our nuclear missiles.
Who says this? Oh, I remember. The other warmonger, Ronald Reagan.
We just found out yesterday that Ronald Reagan was trying to get rid of our nuclear missiles.
He didn't want to get all rid of all nukes. He wanted the bombs that could be loaded on planes,
but planes could be turned around. Missiles cannot be turned around.
And so he said, let's get rid of missiles as a world. Well, Donald Trump, I don't think
coincidentally, this week is coming out and saying the same thing.
But he's also saying, at the same time, let's get rid of missiles.
He's saying we should have a Department of War.
I don't think anybody's going to really give you all of this.
I certainly know the New York Times and the Post and everything else that all of your liberal friends read are not going to do anything except.
See, he's a war monger.
He's a war monger.
No, he's really not.
I think the best way to stop war and you're seeing it right now.
is to have a leader and a country that knows exactly who they are.
They walk up to the plate and say, you know, we could do this the easy way.
We could do this the hard way.
I recommend you do it the easy way.
Let's sit down.
Let's have a conversation.
Let's stop the killing.
And he tries and he tries and he tries.
But knowing if you don't want to go that way, that's fine.
But I'm going to turn your sand into glass overnight.
And I'm not going to rebuild you.
I'm not going to bail you out.
you want to start something, go ahead, but we will finish it.
When your country has the credibility that that is exactly, he means what he says and says what he means,
which is exactly what Donald Trump is doing, why is the world coming to us?
Why is he able to solve all of these problems?
Why has he been able to grant peace?
Why has he been able to do all of these things that nobody else has even been able to do?
Now, yes, he hasn't solved Ukraine and Russia, but not all conflicts are really easy, super easy to solve, you know, with a bowl of peanuts and a nice glass of iced tea.
Some of them are a little difficult.
But why is the world coming to us?
Why is he effective like this?
Because they know he means what he says and says what he means.
You want to solve this?
Great.
You don't want to solve this?
Then these are the conditions that we're going to move forward on.
And that doesn't emboldened enemies.
That terrifies them.
He is the most anti-war president we have had since Jimmy Carter, but Jimmy Carter did not have the strength.
Carter was weak and signaled weakness.
And so he made the world more unsafe.
This president is strong.
This president is making the country stronger.
And he believes in peace just as much as Jimmy Carter does.
I think this president is saying,
I want the people to know that this is the Department of War,
not just externally, but internally too.
We need to be reminded all of that money, that defense.
When you think of defense, what do you think?
You think of, well, there's cybersecurity and there's all this, all the kind of stuff,
and we've got spy programs, and, you know, we're going to have a missile shield.
But when you think of war, what do you think?
my children are going to die.
Bombs will be dropped.
That's the reality.
I think Donald Trump is trying to remind us
that's the reality of our defense department.
And we keep getting roped into all of these wars
that are meaningless.
Why? Because somebody's making money.
So I don't know.
Who are we?
Do names even matter?
Do names guide our national character or follow it?
Are names important?
My dad always taught me words matter.
Every word matters because every word tells you something about what a man believes about himself.
So do we need a Department of Defense or a Department of War?
What does the answer tell us about our leaders and about ourselves?
I can't believe I'm saying this because just last night before I really started thinking this through,
I was against the Department of War.
I think I'm actually for the Department of War.
I think it's the right thing to do.
It shows strength externally, and it reminds us, most importantly, internally.
it is war.
It is death and destruction.
That's the biggest thing that bothers me about our Department of Defense when they're like,
well, we got a nation build and we're going to train our Navy to go in and be just buddies.
That's not what the Navy is for.
That's not what the Air Force is for.
That's not what anybody is for.
In the Department of Defense, it is for war.
Break things, kill people.
That has to be remind.
We have to remind ourselves every time.
You want to build things.
You want to be peaceful.
You want to make sure.
That's what, that's perhaps, perhaps what the State Department is for.
The Department of War is for war.
Let's be clear and stop deluding ourselves.
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All right. So, Stu, help me out here.
What is the new physical, the president's physical fitness
you know, plan?
Well, the thing that RFK Jr. and Hague Seth were rolling out the other day,
I don't know if it was the full test or anything, but they were issuing a challenge to
America to be able to do 100 pushups and 50 pull-ups within five minutes?
That's crazy.
Thank you.
That struck you also as crazy.
I don't think there's ever been a time in my life I could have done that, let alone now with shoulder problems and much too much weight.
I remember when I was a young rapist.
Before I needed this walker.
I don't think there was a time in my 20s or my teens that I could do that.
In five minutes?
Both of them in five minutes.
Yes, both of them.
So it's not like 100 push-ups in five minutes.
It's both tasks within five minutes.
No, no, that's not true.
That's not what they're doing.
He's doing it in jeans.
Well, RFK Jr., he's a weirdo.
I mean, he is.
Come on.
When it comes to fitness, he's a weirdo.
Yes.
I mean, he's, he's done this.
His whole life, he's, you know, like 800 years old and he can still do it.
He's, I don't know.
It's impressive.
He's a sex machine.
That's, that's, that's, that's been a problem for him.
Yes.
Yeah, that has been a problem.
Yeah, that has been an issue in his life, yes.
Right.
Okay.
Separate from the president's physical fitness test.
But I mean, like, they don't, what, they don't really think we're going to do that, right?
Like, I mean, what, how long would that take you to do?
I think, I think for me, it would take.
a good month. I think a month, I could probably get two pull-ups a day. That would get me
around, you know, a little over 50, so I could do that. Plus the push-ups. You know, in a solid
month, I could get that done. You could do more than two a day. You could do more than two a day.
You know, Glenn, I got to say, I think, I just got to throw a number out there. This is,
there's no science behind this, but just as a guesstimate. I would say 40% of the population
can't do any pull-ups. Maybe 30%, 30% of the population can.
can do exactly zero pull-ups, precisely zero.
So an infinite amount of time would be the correct answer for a third of the population.
I think you're, I think you're being, I think you're being a little too optimistic.
I think it's closer to 40 or 50.
I think it is closer to 40 or 50.
Right?
Maybe 60.
Yeah.
Push-ups are one thing.
I mean, I think almost anybody can do a push-up.
No, they're really not.
No, they're-a-push-up.
One.
you could do a push-up
singular push-ups.
And if you can do one,
you can wait long enough
to do a second one
and at some point
the hunter gets done.
That is not the case
with pull-ups.
Pull-ups,
you can sit there
and think about
how much you want to do a pull-up
for a really long time,
but that doesn't make a pull-up happen.
If you've got a certain
amount of weight on you
or, you know,
you're not doing a pull-up.
It's just not occurring.
I have no idea.
how many pull-ups I could do.
I have an exact number of how many pull-ups you could do.
Do you? You think so?
Yeah, yeah. I have the exact number. I think I could do.
I just have been calculating. A.I. has been running a report on me. It came up with zero.
Right. Really? I bet I could do. I mean, this is so pathetic. Listen to this.
I bet I could do three. You got I could do three. In a row?
What do you mean in a row?
I'm saying like holding onto the bar without letting go, you're doing three. There's no
way. I don't think so. With proper form. I think I could. No, come on. No, Glenn.
Well, with proper form, I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I'm saying it has to look
pretty. You got to get your chin up above the bar, though. It can't be one of those things where
like you're a quarter of the way up. So I could do one and rest for 10 minutes and then do another one.
I think I could do that. If you, I'm not saying like you jump up and you pull yourself up as you're
going up. You got to come, you know, from full hang. See, Stu, you may not know this, but you know,
when I did the DNA test, have you ever done the DNA test? Have you ever done the DNA test?
It tells you all about your genes and everything else.
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who you're dealing with.
No, you don't have any idea
who you're dealing with here.
I got my DNA test back
like 10 years ago.
And we all took it
because we were looking for,
you know, we're looking for things.
And so we all took it.
My DNA test came back.
And everybody in the family,
their test made total sense.
We're like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.
Then we read mine.
We have to find, I have to find it.
I see if Tony even has it still.
We should have it framed.
It's the, it's, I swear to you,
they, they mixed me up with somebody else.
Somebody else is like, wait a minute, man, I'm this pathetic.
Mine came back and said, you have the muscular structure of a,
of a, of a something like a,
an elite athlete.
You have the abilities and agility and everything else of an elite athlete.
And I'm like, there's not a chance.
I don't have any of that.
I don't even know if I have muscles.
I have to check once in a while ago, do I have muscles?
Do you?
Do you move your leg?
And I'm like, I don't know.
I don't know.
How do you do that again?
Just press against my hand on the leg.
I don't know.
You know, I don't know how to do that exactly.
So you sure it said elite athlete and not elephant?
I mean, if they misspelled it, it could have been a smear or smudge.
I was having eye problems at the time.
No.
I mean, we read it and I was like, Tanya, I believe that for Tanya.
Maybe they switched me and Tanya because Tanya is really strong.
She'll kick your butt.
She works out every day, all of that.
Me, never, never.
And it kind of makes me wonder when I get to the other side and the Lord went,
okay, so what did you do with your life again?
Because I gave you this incredible body and you wasted it the whole time.
And I'm like, you should have been more clear.
Okay?
You should have been more clear.
I, you know, maybe I could have played basketball, but I tried once and it was embarrassing.
It was like sixth grade and I'll never live.
I don't even want to think about my time on a basketball court.
Okay.
So don't start with me.
You should have made it a little clearer when I first started to do stuff.
And I think that's fair.
I think that's a fair argument.
In my defense, in my defense, your honor, your God, you should have made it a little more clear.
Yeah.
I mean, if they really wanted us to do this, then the 11th commandment is 50 pushups and, or 50 pullups and 100 pushups, right?
Like put it in a commandment if you really want us to do it.
You know, you have to be more specific.
We're Americans.
Okay.
So let me give you the top of the list for the JFK presidential fitness test.
Okay.
This is what you had to do in high school, in high school.
34 pull-ups.
Bar dips, 52.
What's I?
Because I believe I did that a long time.
No, it's not recommend it.
Not a bar hop, Glenn.
Oh, bar dips.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Bar dips, 52.
Handstand pushups.
50.
What are a hands?
Is that?
Oh, my God.
Hands tap.
I can't even stand on my hand.
Is that like I'm doing a handstand and a push up?
Because that's not happening.
Yeah.
Like, you're not human.
You're balancing yourself on your hands.
Your feet are above your hands on the wall, like a wall.
And you're doing.
Oh.
You're balancing yourself.
That makes it a little easier.
Still impossible, but a little easier.
Impossible.
You could do precisely zero of those.
Right.
Okay, so you had to do 50 handstand push-ups or one-arm, 30, no, sorry, 26, one-arm burpees in 30 seconds.
Is that a one-armed push-up?
No.
So you're, well, you're bracing yourself like you're about to begin a push-up in a burpee with only one hand arm, which that's not, that.
difficult, but then you're doing, I think that you're like, you move your feet towards your hands and then you jump up in the air, basically, and then you do it repeat it.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That's, that's ridiculous. That's, no. There's a law of gravity, okay? You're not supposed to violate it. Yeah, that's not. If it was a recommendation of gravity, maybe jumping would be appropriate, but it's not. So follow the law. In 48 seconds, you had to do a 300-yard shuttle. Now, I've been to the airport. I think I've done a 30, 30,
300-yard shuttle, but depends on who's driving.
Right.
You know?
Rope climb.
Try this.
Rope climb.
This is what I remember.
20 feet, hands only sit, start.
So that's what I remember from the president's physical fitness test.
And I remember looking at that rope and being like, no chance I can get up that thing.
Oh, I just remember looking at that rope thinking humiliation.
Yeah.
Humiliation is coming my way.
I'll never kiss a girl because that ain't happening.
I'm going to get maybe 10 feet up.
Maybe.
Maybe.
And you were right for 24 years from that time.
Approximately.
Agility run, 17 seconds.
Extension press ups.
You had to do what, what?
I'm just so tired from reading this.
Extension press ups.
What's an extension press up?
Eight inch.
Let's say.
You got to do a hundred of those.
An exercise, an exercise for low back pain involving
lying on your stomach and pressing your upper body up with your arms while keeping your hips relaxed and down on the mat.
Oh, I could do that.
Eight inches?
I can do the last part of it, relaxed and down on the mat.
That's what my doctor says I should be doing.
What?
I can do relaxed and down on the mat.
That part of it, I can pull off.
I am the only guy.
I took yoga for a while, like three weeks.
My wife was like, yoga, you could do yoga.
Let's just do yoga together.
I did.
And the yoga instructor said to me, because we were doing like, you know, you know,
a plank.
Yeah.
And she came and all I remember is her waking me up and saying,
I think you're the only person I've ever,
ever taught that fell asleep in yoga.
I'm like,
it's just so relaxing.
Just let me sleep.
Just let me sleep.
That's interesting.
No,
that you did yoga.
Is there any footage of that?
Is there any video of,
no,
but we can post.
I mean,
that would be good for,
you have to do,
you had to do pegboard,
five trips of pegboard.
and I think that's when you have the two like pegs.
Yes.
And then you have to take it out and put it up, right?
Yeah.
And climb.
This is American Ninja Warrior.
This is not.
There's no way.
There's no way.
It's amazing.
Try this one.
You had to do a 45 second handstand.
I've never been able to do a handstand.
Never.
I've been able to do zero seconds.
And I'm an elite athlete.
I am an elite athlete.
Try this one.
a man carry five miles what what do you mean a man five mile man carry is a man carry is obvious as
it's i think it is you're carrying a human like i want to carry me that man you got to carry me that man
for five miles i'm not sure i can't carry any man for any miles uh i mean if i'm a if i am a firefighter
count on burning in the house.
You're just going to burn up in the house.
He goes, I can't carry you out.
I could get in there and go, yeah, I'm going to have to leave you.
I'm going to have to leave you here.
I can't help you.
Sorry.
It's also getting really hot in here.
I got to go.
You had to do a five-mile jog, an obstacle course.
You had to swim prone for a mile.
You had to swim underwater for 50 yards, any strokes, two minutes,
deep water front hang float with arms.
What is a deep water front hang float with arms?
Wait, wait, wait.
It's a deep water front hang float with arms and ankles tied for six minutes.
What kind of Al-Qaeda P.E. class was this?
Who is it?
Who is access to?
Who is access to?
Like, you're in the middle of the country.
You might not have a deep water body nearby.
Are you sure this was the actual test?
This is the actual test.
This is the actual.
What is a deep water front hang float with arms and ankles tied for six minutes?
Can you look that up?
A deep water hang float is an aquatic exercise done in a deep end of a pool with the aid of a flotation device, such as a noodle or belt.
In this position, the flotation device supports your upper body while your legs and torso hang freely below you.
The setup, what?
That can't be what it is.
I mean, I could do that.
That's just,
I get into a deep end of a pool with a noodle?
It's every weekend.
What are you talking about?
Can you bring a margarita?
Man, I could, this test is no big deal.
What?
No way.
No way.
Here's the last thing on the test.
A vertical tread in an eight-foot circle for two hours.
No way.
Vertical tread in an eight-foot circle?
So you're in the water.
and you're treading water in a circle for how many hours?
For two hours?
Two.
This is not.
This is not cannot be the test.
I told you this is the top of the test.
I told you this is the top of the test.
So this was for the ones who could do all of the other tests.
This was the top of the test.
The bottom of the test is not that much better.
Here's the entry, okay?
Let's see.
Pull-ups.
2-6.
I don't know what that means. Push-ups 16, 24-32.
Bar-dips, 4-8-and-12. Sit-ups, 30, 45, and 60. Broad jump. Six-foot, 6-6-6-6-6 and 6-9.
To jump six feet? I didn't even know if that's... I mean... I know... That one is possible, Glenn. Yes, I know it sounds incredible, but yes, that one... Sounds incredible.
It's possible. You know, I think we should have the average person Olympics. I
really do.
I really do.
I mean, I would watch that every time because you see them coming, you know, and you're like,
hmm, that one's not three feet.
I give him three feet.
200-yard shuttle, agility run, rope climb 18 feet, hands only, 880 yards in three minutes,
a mile in seven minutes, pegboard, six holes.
a 50-yard swim,
40, 50-yard swim in 36 seconds.
Man carry 880 yards.
No, thank you.
No, thank you.
Look at what we've gone down.
That's the bottom of it,
and I don't think most Americans could do that.
I couldn't.
Well, I could because I'm an elite.
I have the body of an elite athlete.
You, yeah, no.
You could not.
Now, of course, you,
now, in your, let's just say,
And this is supposed to be for a high school kid, right?
So this is the prime of your athletic life.
Could you do some of these things?
Right.
Go into high school.
Go into any high school and ask them to do this.
There's no way.
And all of the kids would be,
well, that's kind of what the reaction's been.
I mean, don't give me wrong.
I would have been there too.
And my parents would have said,
suck it up.
Just do it.
So nothing's really changed.
But that's been the reaction to this.
this proposal too of bringing this back, right?
Like the media is covering it is like,
it's going to embarrass children.
You know, I mean,
I do remember being like,
I can't do that.
I'm not going to be able to get to the top of that rope.
That's not happening.
That's, you know,
sort of life, right?
Like, sometimes you can do things,
sometimes you can't do other things, right?
Like, that's...
It's why you have to learn how to injure yourself.
Right.
You know,
how many stairs can I throw myself down to not do serious damage,
but enough to get me out of P.E.
Yeah, you have to fake an injury.
You have to like learn from LeBron James.
Like act like you got hit in the eye and fall down.
Exactly right.
Like you were just stabbed over and over again during an athletic competition.
No way.
No way.
And you know what?
Honestly, if we, this is why we're not having sex with each other.
We're not having kids because nobody wants to look at each other.
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You know what's really sad and pathetic,
Stu? You put either of us up
against our wives, and
we look really pathetic.
I mean, we look pathetic standing on our own.
But put us next to our wives.
People note that often in the comments
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appreciated. Yeah, mine
does it. Wow, Glenn,
how'd this work? How'd this happen?
That's the number one comment when I'm in a picture with my wife.
Wow.
Not helpful.
Miracles do happen.
I don't know if you think you're being helpful.
Yeah.
No.
Yeah, it's not helpful.
You don't really need to state it.
Yeah.
But thank you for doing it because it really brightens my day when you pointed out over and over again.
It helps me get along.
It helps me be looking up.
Reaching for the stars.
You know my wife, she works out every day.
She's in very good shape.
tiny too. And so
you'd think the perfect person for
pull-ups, right?
She's what? She's like
she's four
ten? No.
She's like five-five one?
Maybe a maybe five-one.
Five one, okay, okay. Tiny.
Five-one. Like it was ridiculous
to say four-nine.
It seemed like you were going into little person
territory. She's, you know, I think that's in the
threes. She's clearly not a little
person. But she did like a pull-up challenge at her gym, which they had to do, like in a month had to do 10 consecutive pull-ups, I think it was.
She weighs a lot, like 35 pounds?
Not a lot. You know, 100 pounds? And she got to, she got to nine. She got to nine consecutive ones in the challenge in a month.
I mean, if she could do that, there's a lot of people who will do not nine in a year.
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but it is raging in some circles,
and it's about the United States giving money to a leader in the Taliban.
And now there's an argument of, oh, that was the right thing to do
because he's a changed man, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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from the acting president
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I've never even heard of that,
but you pay for it.
It's the State Department,
and we're going to talk to him in just a second.
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He is a U.S. Institute of Peace Acting President, U.S. State Department undersecretary for Public
diplomacy. Darren, welcome to the program. How are you? Darren, are you there? Is he there?
Okay, check if he's there. See? Dick Cheney.
Dick Cheney. Trying to shut him down. They don't want peace. They don't want peace.
They don't. They don't. He is a big time anti-globalist. I got to tell you what we're doing
with the State Department. I absolutely love. The State Department has been a big problem
for this country for a very long time.
It's what's gotten us into these global wars,
these endless wars, everything else.
And I mean, I don't know what happened to Marco Rubio,
but he is tremendous.
And the way President Trump is appointing different people like Darren,
I mean, it's fantastic.
Darren, you there?
Darren?
Something must be wrong with our lines
because we are talking to him offline on the phone here.
And it does seem to be working,
but not coming through our broadcast board.
board here for whatever reason.
Well, let's see if we can get that fixed.
And maybe let me just talk here for
five or six minutes on something else. And then we'll take
a break and come back and see if we can get them.
There's something else that I really want to talk to you about.
And that is
this flag burning thing.
Now, it's not an amendment. This is something
the president is putting up in an executive order
and has very little teeth to it.
But I,
look, I understand,
as a guy who's putting an enormous flagpole
up at my house today.
I mean, an enormous flagpole.
I love the flag.
I love it.
And there are a few things that make me more angry
than seeing somebody, you know,
set our flag on fire.
For a lot of people, it's a punch in the gut,
especially our military people.
And it has been planted on distant battlefields.
It's raised after victory,
saluted in the morning or should be in our schools,
and folded and given to the hands of grieving families.
it feels like spitting on every sacrifice that ever made this nation possible.
And the argument against flag burning is really simple.
It dishonors the idea of all of that.
And it offends millions of people, including me.
It disrespects, I think, the veterans who bled, the families who mourned, the dream that binds us together.
However, here's the hard truth.
symbols only mean something in a land where freedom is alive.
If you outlaw the burning of a flag, you have placed the cloth above the constitution that it represents.
You have made the flag an idol.
We don't worship idols.
If you can only praise the flag and never protest it, then it stops being a symbol of freedom and starts being an idol of obedience.
Now, that's the argument for allowing it, at least to me, because the real strength of a free nation is to, it's how we protect, not the speech we love, but how we endure the speech we hate.
And the Supreme Court has already ruled on this, and the line they drew wasn't an easy one.
freedom of speech stops where it directly, directly incites violence.
And that's the same thing, kind of, in this executive order.
You can burn the flag, but if I'm not mistaken, but if it incites violence, then you're in trouble.
And that's true.
But it's the bar of inciting violence is so incredibly high.
And it's, it doesn't have anything to do with speech that offends.
It's not speech that stirs anger, not speech that makes you want.
want to punch the speaker in the in the mouth you know it is speech only that provokes imminent and
specific violence and unless it's that the government doesn't have any right to to get into
the business of silencing speech ever ever ever it is a hard line and that standard is really hard
it's painfully hard because what our citizenship requires this is civics
What our citizenships require is that we defend, oh, I hate this.
We defend the right of your opponent to mock everything that we hold sacred.
Now, I want you to think to this.
You can burn a Bible.
You can burn the word of God.
But some want to make it illegal to burn the flag.
Where are our priorities?
You can burn the Constitution.
the words that actually are the ones that stir us into action,
but you can't burn a flag.
You can't burn a Koran.
Can't burn one.
Can't. Can't.
You will quickly come to a quick end, not legally,
but you will come to a quick end.
I don't ever want to be like that.
Ever.
You burn a Bible? I think you're a monster.
What is wrong with you?
What is wrong with you?
But you have a right to do it.
Why are we drawing a line around the flag?
The reason is is because we feel things so passionately.
And that is really a good thing to feel love of country so passionately.
But then we have to temper that.
My father used to tell me that I think this country needs to hear over and over again every day.
My father used to, we would talk to somebody and we'd walk away and he'd go,
I so disagree with everything that man just said.
But Glenn, son, he would say, I will fight to the death for his right to say it.
He used to say that to me all the time, which now leads me to believe I know where I got my strong opinions from because dad apparently would disagree with a lot of people all the time.
But that was the essence of freedom.
That is the essence of what sets us apart.
Standing for universal and eternal rights, like free speech, it's not easy.
It means you have to take the sides of those people that offend you.
It doesn't mean you have to agree with it.
You can fight against it.
You can argue back and forth.
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That is so hard, and that is why most of the world does not.
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All right.
Let me bring Darren. Darren, are you there now?
Yes.
Oh, thank goodness.
Thank you for putting up with this.
I don't know what happened to the phone system.
But first of all, tell me what the U.S. Institute of Peace is.
I've never even heard of it.
That is a fantastic question.
And I'll try to give the abbreviated answer because I know we don't have several hours this time.
But U.S. Institute of Peace is one.
a lesser known but quite important member of the NGO archipelago that was created in the 80s.
It belongs to the same cohort as National Endowment for Democracy and some other better,
some other better known NGOs that really in the broad context of things and in kind of the sweep of things
was created as a kind of reorganization of the government structure in the aftermath of the church pike committee hearings that exposed a lot of the dirty dealings of government agencies such as the CIA.
And so sort of a broader response to that government-wide was to create this NGO layer of governance with an arms distance, plausible deniability, a kind of chameleon character.
of not exactly being government, not exactly being private, in order to fulfill some of those
more sensitive functions that had been exposed in the course of the church hearings.
And so U.S.S. Institute Peace is one of those NGOs that had a particular focus on conflict regions,
but of course, as I think you suggested earlier, requires at the very least an asterisk
because they're involved in a lot of things that conventionally, according to, I think,
most American citizens would not think should belong as part of the portfolio of something
calling itself an Institute of Peace.
So what was the thing with this Taliban member that was getting money from us?
This is an interesting case.
This comes so there was a whole saga of a takeover of the U.S. Institute of Peace under Doge.
And that's really a fascinating story unto itself.
Just to give you a sense of what these characters were like, they barricaded themselves in the offices.
They sabotaged the physical infrastructure of the building.
There were reports of they're being loaded guns within offices.
There was one like hostage situation where they held a security guard under basically kind of a false imprisonment type situation.
it was extremely intense, far more so than the better known story of USAID.
And in the course of all of that, they tried to delete a terabyte of data of accounting
information that would indicate what kind of stuff they were up to, what kind of people
they were paying.
And in the course of that, Doge found that one of the people on their payroll was this
curious figure who had a prominent role in the Taliban government and then seemed to kind of
play a bunch of angles across each other, sort of one of these fixture types in the middle of
Afghanistan. The question is, what the heck is an organization like this doing, having an individual
who is a former Taliban member on their payroll? It just underscores how incredibly bizarre the whole
arrangement is. And just to reinforce that, I think what's even more bizarre,
than having this former Taliban guy in the payroll is the kind of schizophrenic posture in
relations to Afghanistan exhibited by the U.S. Institute of Peace. One truly bizarre thing is that one of
the U.S. Institute of Peace's main kind of policy agendas, we lamenting the fact that the opium
trade had dissipated under Taliban leadership. They had multiple reports coming out basically saying,
this is horrible that the opium trade has diminished under the Taliban.
We need to find some way to restore it.
How bizarre is that?
What was their thinking?
Well, it's very strange, and it depends, you know, what kind of rabbit holes we want to go down.
But the whole story of opium in Afghanistan and its connection to, you know, government entities is a very interesting.
intricate and delicate and fascinating one, but it seems very clear that the U.S. Institute
peace was involved in that story to some degree because their public reports, they had like
a full-time guy on this beat of basically lamenting the fact that the opium trade had dissipated
under the Taliban.
And meanwhile, they're funding this former Taliban guy.
Unbelievable.
Now, ProPublica got this and, you know, you guys released a statement on it, and ProPublica,
just completely whitewash this said this guy was a victim and his family is taken hostage.
Was his family ever taken hostage because he was exposed and correct the ProPublica story,
would you?
Well, yeah.
I mean, the ProPublica thing as usual and as expected was a total joke.
I mean, this guy, I'm not an expert on this particular person's history,
but what's very clear is he was a former Taliban guy and he was probably.
one of these people who was playing all sides, made a lot of enemies. I know that there were,
you know, several kind of attempts on his life by the Taliban in the course of various, various
decades. This has nothing to do with, with Doge. I mean, he's a known quantity in a region
and somebody who's made a lot of enemies, and he was on the payroll of U.S. to be peace,
and nobody's expecting something like that. U.S. and S.S. and Sibu,
goes in. And again, there's this sort of hostile takeover situation where the people are barricading
themselves in trying to delete all this data. And then sure enough, what's in the data? It's stuff like
this. These random former Taliban guys, you know, making, I think his contract was $130,000.
This is the real deep state stuff that I think bothers people so much. Look, we expect our CIA
to do stuff. We don't necessarily want it to do it, but we expect.
it. But when it's in the State Department, when it's in every department is pushing out money to
NGOs to overthrow governments and everything else, it is out of control. It's just, it's completely
out of control. And who is overseeing all of that? That's a great question. I mean, I think,
again, part of the NGO layer structure, this was, you, USIP was almost a cutout of a cutout.
A fourth of its money actually came from USA. So in many ways,
it was a cutout of USAID, which is itself a cutout.
So there are many kind of layers of distance, plausible deniability.
And Yusip, I think institutionally, really perfected this chameleon structure of being
able to plausibly present itself as government when that was convenient for what they were
doing, and also to present itself as a private organization when that was convenient.
It's a very intricate setup that they had that was truly optimized for this chameleon character
of plausible, deniable operations in conflict zones doing God knows what with American taxpayers'
money.
And it's just an absolute hornet's nest.
We have recovered that terabyte that they tried to delete.
And once we get things settled in the building itself, I intend to,
do a kind of transparency effort whereby release all of this material to the public.
Good.
Just as I'm doing at the State Department, so I'm concurrently acting under Secretary of the State
Department and doing a transparency effort here.
After I eliminated the Global Engagement Center, which was sort of the internal censorship
office within the State Department, decided we got to air this out to the public.
So within the next couple of weeks, we'll have our first tranche of hundreds of thousands of emails documenting what they were doing.
I would love to have you back on to go through some of those emails.
I think you guys in the State Department are doing an amazing job.
Thanks for being on.
Back in a minute.
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One of my good friends, a guy who I just so admired is Peter Switzer or admire.
I still admire him.
He is the president of the government accountability institute.
He is the host of The Drill Down, which is a podcast.
He has written numerous books.
He's an investigative reporter.
Been on this program a million times.
and is always way ahead of the game.
He's brought to my attention some land exchanges that are going on with China here on our own country, exchanges for dollars,
and they are still buying up more land and nobody's doing anything about it.
And then there's a story today about the 600,000 Chinese students that Donald Trump is letting come in.
Now, there's got to be more of this story on why he's allowing that.
but I mean these are people that if I'm not mistaken and this is my first question Peter
aren't these students they you have to be close to the CCP to be able to travel to the
United States don't you have to be well connected with the Communist Party yeah that's right
Glenn I mean look the reason I think that Trump is allowing this to happen is because this is a
top priority for G and they're trying to negotiate a whole bunch of things but I still think
it is a mistake. And here's why. There are 600,000 Chinese students that come to the United States.
American students going to China is a trickle. So this is not about an exchange of ideas. You know,
it's not like junior era abroad in Italy where you learn more about Italian culture and you remember
the rest of your life. It's not that at all. The students that come to the United States are
screened for their political views, their families are screened for their political views.
their costs are borne by the Chinese government.
So when they are here, they are functionaries of the Chinese government.
And if they fail to fall in line or do what they're asked, damage can come to their family.
Damage can come to them.
And the entire premise behind the student exchanges going back to the 1980s is that this would
make the Chinese elite more like us, right?
They get to know us.
They become friendly.
They become more Americanized.
the vast majority of the hardline aides around President G were educated in the United States,
primarily at places like Harvard.
So it's not working.
The Chinese leadership is actually more hardline now than it was under Ku Jintao or under Deng Xiaoping.
And they're more Western educated, so it's not doing what they claimed it was going to do.
So why is he doing this?
I think Trump's doing it because he is trying to secure, you know,
know, a series of trade deals with the Chinese. He's trying to deal with them on the Ukraine-Russia
war to pressure Russia. He's got a whole bunch of things on his agenda. This is a priority for
Xi. I would say one of his... I understand that, but why would it be a priority for Xi? I mean,
he gets 600,000 spies here in the United States. Yes, that's correct. And so here's what we know.
We know the Chinese students coming to the United States have engaged in espionage. And by the way,
They're not coming here to study comparative literature or sociology.
They're vast, vast majority.
Over 90% are in the hard sciences.
So it is stealing our secrets.
We also know, by the way, that the fentanyl trade in the United States,
as we've talked about before, the Chinese are intimately involved in that.
A key component of the money laundering is Chinese students in the United States
who are taking suitcases full of cash to Chinese state-owned banks.
well documented. So there is a component to it there. There's also a political component to it.
Chinese students in the United States have done everything from shout down speakers on college
campuses that are critical of China. There have been reports in California of Chinese students
being bused to places like San Francisco to engage in counter protests when people are concerned
about human rights in Tibet. When President Xi remembered visited San Francisco, there were
thousands of Chinese students bust in there to organize pro-Gi rallies. So there's also a political
force component to this. Wasn't there not, one or two students or whether just scientists,
just recently that were trying to bring in really dangerous stuff and we caught them,
but twice we caught them. That just happened a couple of months ago. Do you remember that story,
Peter? Yes, that's exactly right. And so, yeah, these were scientists, but these are scientists that
oftentimes are educated in the West.
They take on research lab positions at American universities, like the University of Michigan, as in this particular case.
And so they sometimes bring in dangerous things.
There was a report in Canada of Chinese students that were bringing in pathogens related to COVID back in 2019,
widely reported in Canada.
So it's an enormous problem, and it's not really.
something that we are focused on.
Again, we are teaching, we are treating them as if they're German exchange students or
American studying in Italy.
That is not how China views this.
They view this as a component and an extension of the state, and the students need to
fall in line.
And if they don't, they're going to suffer serious consequences.
Donald Trump is so strategic, and nothing he does is without several things down the
line.
He's usually playing 3D chess.
He's way ahead of everybody else.
I cannot imagine what we're getting out of this that would balance this in our favor,
but we'll have to see.
Is anything being done on the Chinese buying up land?
I know you're on a big story now about how much land is being purchased up in the northeast
that is extraordinarily dangerous.
Yeah, so we're working on a report right now.
one of our top researchers picked 20 military bases at random in the United States.
And he wanted to look at land records and say, of those 20 military installations,
how many have Chinese-owned land that is just adjacent to those military bases?
The answer, Glenn, is all 20.
So this is a massive problem.
It's, you know, land purchases are not regulated at the national level of the United States.
They not necessarily should be.
It's done at the state level.
And certain states like Florida and others have worked hard to pass legislation in this area.
The problem is you have states like California where there was legislation passed in the state senate, the state assembly on a bipartisan basis that said foreign hostile governments.
It didn't even say individuals.
Just foreign hostile governments cannot buy land in California.
Gavin Newsom actually vetoed.
that bill. So the problem is, yeah, it was that narrowly written bipartisan support. Gavin Newsom
vetoed that bill. And I think part of the reason, frankly, is, you know, he's involved in the wine
business. He has land vineyards in the wine area, and Chinese state companies have been buying up
vineyards in Napa Valley. So it probably would have affected the valuations of his property. That's, I think,
one of the motivations. And as we've talked about before, he has a, let's say, long history of
association with people involved in the United Front Groups and, frankly, people involved
with Chinese organized crimes. So the land issue is not going anywhere. It's a major problem.
Peter, if I'm just looking at this on the surface, I immediately think back to what Ukraine did
to Russia with the drones, where they were in these trucks, they were right outside the military base,
and they destroyed things that we could,
we in our wildest dreams,
couldn't have destroyed just a few years ago.
And it was because of drones.
And it was a whole new line of attack.
Everybody knows that China is the leader in drone technology.
I mean, they are just way ahead of everybody.
If you don't, if you have a drone and it's not, what is it, DGI, DJI,
it's, it's not the best.
It's all coming from China.
If you have property all around the United States,
all adjacent to our military bases, that is a direct threat to our national security.
I mean, you could have a barn full of those drones or a truck full of those drones,
and you could take everything out on those military bases quickly,
and America wouldn't have any time to respond.
Is it deeper than that on concerns?
Well, I think, yeah, I think that's the main one, is right,
The ability not only to cause kinetic damage as the Ukrainians have shown by you flown drones and you blow things up.
And look, even our most secure military bases are not going to be able to defend against attack like that.
You have the additional problem that you could do something more stealthy.
You could take drones, you know, with pathogens, with poisons and introduce them into a military installation.
So, yeah, it's a massive, massive problem.
And the notion that we can't even limit the Chinese government or government state-owned companies
from buying real estate, that that somehow is a violation of some constitutional right,
as if the Chinese government has constitutional rights in the United States is patently absurd.
So this is something we've got to continue to address.
We're going to keep exposing it.
You've been on the front lines of it, Glenn.
And it's one of those things I think that people innately understand.
stand. When you think about currency flows, when you think about money laundering, it gets complicated.
This is very real and very easy and understandable.
Yeah. Peter, as always, thank you very much. Thanks for your hard work. We'll talk again.
Peter Swiser. Thanks, Lynn.
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This is Glenn Beck.
A couple of weeks ago, I saw a video of a young woman
who was speaking at a forum and she was talking about what happened to her when she was 14 years old.
And now she is detransitioning from that.
And the way she told her story, what she had to say is so important.
And the world is still trying to silence her.
And it is so important that we hear these stories and that we stop this, this mutilation, this abomination.
I mean, we are Frankenstein doctors.
This is not medicine.
We stop this, this nightmare of care for kids who wanted to try.
transition into another sex.
Claire is going to tell her
story here in just a second. I want you to hear it because
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Claire. How are you? Hello. I'm doing well. How are you?
I am really good. I watched your video and the story of you and your mom is so unbelievable.
believably compelling.
And especially since, I mean, I'm a father of four and, you know, I have children, my children
have told me all kinds of things.
And it is so hard as a parent, especially at this time when everything is so confused.
And all of the experts are saying, no, your kid's going to kill themselves.
It is what your mom went through, let alone what you went through, but what your mom went through
is just, I think, so universal to some degree or another.
And I want to thank you for coming on and telling your story.
Can you start at 14?
What happened?
I can.
Yeah.
Well, it'd be better to start a little earlier.
I started identifying as trans when I was 12 years old,
following a sexual assault and some pretty severe bullying that I was experiencing at school.
And adopting this identity gave me, well, one, it gave me the ability to pretend to be a new person,
someone that this didn't happen to.
And it also gave me an entire social network, a whole friend group of other kids who felt similarly to the way I did.
And I fell into this social group and started seeing therapists recommended by the people in the support groups that we were going to.
And they made my parents feel like abusers for being skeptical for wanting to take pause before, like, making irreparable changes to their child's body.
did anyone say any doctor say hang on we should look at the abuse we should i mean this might be
something that is tied to the abuse and to those experiences did anybody say that and take that
seriously no one no one my mom asked about the the abuse of the bullying all these things that
i'd gone through disordered eating and uh she was told in no uncertain terms no that does not
make a child think that they're trans.
That has nothing to do with you.
And these are doctors like at Cook Children's Hospital in Dallas, a fantastic
children's hospital.
So they have credibility with parents, right?
One of the most well-funded children's hospitals in the nation, yes.
Interesting way of verifying what I said, the most well-funded.
Okay, so at 14, you were put on testosterone, and then like six months later, they're
talking about surgery?
Yeah, no.
I started testosterone in November of 2018, and by January, I was approved for surgery.
It didn't happen until June, but that was just because we wanted to wait until
the summer between May 8th and 9th grade years.
That's pretty young.
You're not legal to do anything at that point.
Right. I couldn't get a learner's permit.
So what did they tell you about the surgery and what didn't they tell you about the surgery?
Well, they told me that I was transgender, that I had gender dysphoria,
and that the only effective treatment for gender dysphoria was chemical and surgical intervention.
That if I didn't go through with this, the most likely outcome was suicide.
That's what they told my parents right in front of me.
Yeah.
And they didn't tell me that they would be performing a drains-free mastectomy on me,
meaning there was a significantly higher risk of fluid build-up and after rejection as a result,
which did end up happening.
They didn't tell me.
me that I would permanently take away my ability to breastfeed. They didn't tell me that the
majority of kids who look to pursue this end up growing out of it. There was a lot of things
that I wasn't told. So, I mean, but you weren't told like serious, like, you know,
pelvic floor dysfunction and urinary incontinence and anything. I mean, I see.
commercials on TV for, you know, drugs.
And they go into 45 seconds of all of the things that could possibly happen to you.
There weren't required to tell you these things?
No, they were required.
They just didn't.
They just didn't do it.
The FCC and the DOJ are investigating now.
They're still doing it, aren't they?
The doctor who did it to me is,
currently being sued by the Attorney General of Texas for continuing to do it after it was
banned.
So when did you know, I heard you talk about how when, you know, the double mesectomy,
the bandages came off and you cried and everybody thought there were tears of joy,
but you weren't so sure.
What was like?
When did you start going, uh-oh, uh-oh, what have I done?
There was always sadness surrounding my chest, but the narrative that they tell you in the
the trans community is that everyone kind of feels bad after surgery.
It's post-op depression is what they call it.
And I believed that it was just post-op depression for around a year until what actually
happened was a girl on my high school's volleyball and got a breast reduction.
reduction. And I learned what a breast reduction was from that and realized that a complete mastectomy was not the only option that was available to me, that things were hidden from me. And that's when things started, tide started changing for me.
So when did you start trying to speak out? Because they silenced you immediately, right?
off of my surgeon's website.
I did posting on the internet in like 2021 about what happened to me,
but I wasn't fully woken up to the reality of the situation until last December.
That's when I had my first public event.
And what did you wake up to?
That were harming children.
that there's no such thing as a trans child and no one is born in the wrong body,
that you don't become your true self by cutting off pieces of yourself.
You, in your story, said that at one point,
um,
um,
you started wearing like a padded bra and you didn't want your mom to know about it.
And I thought it was heartbreaking how you were protecting your mom.
And maybe you didn't know it at the time,
but, uh,
Can you go through that part of the story?
Yeah.
So shortly after I had the realization, after I learned what a breast reduction was, I started, I got curious about women's faction.
Again, I started wanting to be seen as a girl again.
And so I started wearing padded bras in secret.
and I would hide them under my mattress whenever I got home from school.
And one day, my mom found one of these padded bras.
And she asked me if she had made a mistake, basically, if all of this had been for nothing.
So wait, wait, wait, not if you made a mistake, but if she had made the mistake.
Yes.
Well, I mean, I was a child, and we all knew.
that I was a child and that this was ultimately not my decision.
It was the remaining medical professionals and guardians who had to sign off on this.
But yeah, she asked if all of this had been a mistake and I got really defensive and upset.
And I told her that I lashed out at her and I told her that this was why I didn't.
tell her that I knew she was going to overreact and make it a big deal.
But it was a big deal, and that's why she made it one.
No, I didn't tell her that I regretted my transition.
I didn't tell her that I was detransitioning until I decided to get breast implants when I was
18.
When you're how old?
18.
18.
And that's when you told your mom when you were sitting in the meeting for reconstructive surgery, right?
Yes.
Or going to the meeting.
How is your mom doing?
She's a lot of, we talk about it a lot.
There's a lot to unpack and there's a lot of wounds that will never really fully be healed.
But she loves me.
And I've never questioned that she did this because she loves me and she thought she thought she was saving my life.
So you can understand how parents are just as duped as the 14-year-old?
Yeah.
I mean, when you're sitting in front of a mandated reporter who you've entrusted with your child's life
and they're telling you that you're killing them, that your child is cutting themselves
and starving themselves because you won't go along with this identity they've claimed,
it would take a lot of prior knowledge of this issue and a lot of like very strong will
to be able to just overlook that, to be able to say, no, I know what's best.
So now the FTC is looking into whether the pediatric gender medicine industry is
deceiving families, hiding risk, making false claims.
and this could really be a big impact on stopping this nightmare.
What do people do to help?
Well, if you are someone who has been affected by pediatric medical transition,
or if you know someone who has,
the FTC is taking comments from the public,
submissions for people to investigate, essentially.
And if you need any assistance, filling out that submission,
the LGBT Courage Coalition, helping people to submit those forms.
And if you don't, if you're not someone who is affected and you don't know anyone,
spreading the word is a great way to help sharing IWF documentary that me and my mom participated
because people really believe that this isn't happening.
people
people need to know
I want you to I urge you to go to IWF.org
and read and learn and watch
and you can go there and you can actually submit a comment
directly to the FTC as well and urge them to crack down
on the mutilation of our children
Claire thank you
thank you for being brave enough to share all of this
and tell your mom we pray for not only you but also her
God bless.
Thank you, Glenn.
Bless you.
It's so hard to be a parent now, isn't it?
Tanya and I are moving and we're moving to Florida.
And it's been just, it's been hard.
It's been hard.
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Isn't that just heartbreaking still?
I mean,
absolutely devastating.
It's hard to believe that that could be a thing that's happening in this country.
And still happening.
Yeah, it seems like it's still happening.
Either a psychotic horror movie or something you heard from like some weird pagan society of like, you know, multiple centuries ago.
It is, it is, it's so bizarre what's happening.
And I, you know, I've been saying, I think we're getting better.
I think America's waking up, et cetera, et cetera.
I don't know.
After the stuff I've seen in the last week or so with the left and especially Gavin Newsom and what's happening,
in California and, you know, what this judge has just done in Utah and how crazy things still
are on the left. I'm not sure. I think we're making great progress in Washington. I think,
you know, things are changing there and I think people are waking up. But, man, I, you know,
I'm not sure if the left has changed or if enough people on the Democratic side are waking up.
I'm encouraged to see that their numbers are just.
falling through the floor, but things are changing for the better, aren't they?
It's easy to mistake improvement for a solution.
You know, this is not over.
They're not going down without a fight here on the stuff.
No, they're not. They're not.
And they have not yet begun to fight.
The good news is neither of we.
Neither of we.
All right.
Back in just a minute with more.
This is Glenn Beck.
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Let me tell you a couple of stories here.
And I want to tell you a story,
but it, it, uh,
I want to give you real perspective.
on it after I tell you this story because the story is tragic.
It's about a young girl that escaped the bombs and the shells and the bullets of Ukraine.
She's 23 years old and she had a very simple human hope to live free of fear.
That was it.
She left Ukraine 23 years old.
She moves to the United States because she felt she was safe here.
United States is a sanctuary. It's where the refugees go. Now let me take you a warm Friday night.
Last Friday, Charlotte, North Carolina. It's about 10 o'clock at night. The East West Boulevard, there's a light rail station.
She was there. We're not sure if she was on the train or on the platform. We know she was found on the platform.
She had been repeatedly, violently stabbed.
and her life, her hopes, her journey bled out on the platform there where she was just seeking a ride home.
That's it.
We caught the guy.
We don't have a motive yet.
We don't exactly know exactly what happened.
But he's not a stranger to courtrooms or handcuffs.
His name is DeCarlos Brown Jr.
He's 34 years old.
He's homeless.
He has a criminal record stretching back.
more than 10 years.
Felony, larceny, robbery with a deadly weapon,
communicating threats.
He served 10 years behind bars,
and still,
still he was able to walk the streets.
And what's really tragic is he has a history of deep mental illness.
There was a welfare check just a couple of months ago.
And police came and he told the officers he believed a
man-made material had been implanted in his body, controlling his movements, his eating, even his speech.
Police said there's, I mean, this is nothing a police can do.
That's a medical issue.
You have to see the doctor.
He wasn't taken in.
He wasn't held nothing.
And on that Friday night on that platform, life and death met.
Police did what they always do.
They put the police tape around the platform.
Cameras showed up, captured the glow of the red and the blue lights flashing against the
steel train cars.
As I said, the officers can't tell you where it began.
The train, the platform nearby.
They only knew she died there.
He's been charged with first-degree murder.
Her family, I mean, it's unspeakable.
America was a place she flew to for a new beginning,
and it became a place where her story ended.
And the truth is, it doesn't matter where you are.
sometimes it's not the war zones
you know
abroad but the violence that we've allowed to fester
here at home that destroys the innocent
now
I go through story after story after story every day
to figure out what to tell you
to figure out
how can I share something with you that will give you perspective
how can I help you have a little bit of strength
you know during the week I really
I look at my church as a hospital.
I really do.
Sunday, it's time for me to go to the hospital.
I am so battle-worn.
I have so many wounds in me by the end of the week
that by Sunday comes, if I'm not at the hospital,
I won't make it another week.
I need a spiritual hospital.
And that's how I view things.
And I view my job as trying to give you perspective,
but in times on days like today
where it seems to be really,
difficult.
Today I got up this morning and I had to say some things that, you know, I knew many listeners
are not going to like, but it's my job.
And to warn you of things and to show you horrible things like this, why would I tell you this?
Because I want to tell you this.
Sometimes it feels like the whole world is on fire, doesn't it?
You get online, you scroll the headlines, and every headline seems worse than the next.
And the crime, the outrage.
Just reminder after reminder, we are going in the wrong direction.
What is wrong with us?
How can people be like this?
We're turning into animals, all these horrible things.
And if you're not careful, and if I'm not careful, because I'm paid to go through all of those things,
and then try to pick the ones that I think are important.
If you're not careful, you begin to think that's who we are.
That's all there is.
Darkness is winning.
But it's not.
And I want to prove it to you right now.
If you're in a sea of people right now.
You're standing in a crowd.
You're in your office.
If you're in a car, just look around the cars around you.
Look around in your own life.
Not at the screen, not at the stories that you're seeing on TV or on your social media,
but actual people sitting next to you, sitting next to you in a restaurant or a dinner at your own table,
a neighbor who just waves to you as you drive by,
the little slice of kindness that you miss all the time.
That's real life.
That's real life.
The news is going to tell you about murder and corruption and failure
because that's what the news is.
Those stories do matter.
But I would not be doing my job if I said,
that is less than half the story.
We have to confront those things.
That's why I tell you.
That's why I tell you them.
We have a problem with mental illness in our country.
That story is verification of that.
And there's a million stories like it.
You most likely see it on your own streets.
Why do we have to stop this craziness on our streets?
It's inhumane.
It's inhumane to the people who live there, who are decent people.
it's inhumane to allow them to be subjected to the insanity of crime or just to insanity.
And it's inhuman to not recognize the struggle of sanity that so many of our fellow beings are going through on our streets right now.
We can't ignore it.
But don't let these stories be the only story you tell yourself.
Those are problems we have to solve.
That's not who we are.
You are still surrounded every single day by people who are good.
They're good.
By families who are still praying together.
By communities that still help one another in quiet ways.
By men and women who still will tell the truth, even though it costs them something.
Our biggest problem is belief.
Civilizations don't crumble overnight.
They're lost when people stop.
believing they're worth saving. And I can tell you with everything in me, this is worth saving.
And that's why hope matters. That's why remembering the good matters. Because what you focus on
is what you feed. And if you believe we're finished, then you will behave as if it's true.
But if you remember that the light still outnumbers the darkness, you will rise, you will fight,
you will build. It's why every totalitarian government wants to destroy faith.
Because at least Christianity and others too, but Christianity is our main driver in this country.
It tells you to be good. To be a follower of Christ, you have to do good. You have to believe in hope.
You have to believe in redemption. You have to help the injured. You have to see the poor.
You have to push back against the rot.
That's our task.
That's what makes you so dangerous.
There is rot in our institution, lies in our politics, erosion of our values, but that's not the whole picture.
The whole picture is you still live in a country where neighbors pull each other out of floods.
Miracles happen when bad things happen.
Strangers pay for groceries when somebody comes up short, where children still laugh in the playground.
where love and quiet and stubborn, everyday love still outnumbers hate.
Do you know that marriages that last are the norm now?
There's so much good all around you.
Don't walk away from this today thinking, oh my gosh, the whole world is on fire.
Yeah, it is, but it's not the whole world.
And you're the firefighter.
You have the fire extinguisher.
You have everything you need, the protective clothing to not be burned by.
that fire. So breathe.
And know that
no matter what you see today on social media
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Much of it is not reality at all.
It's the exception.
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is not
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and so it's a little boring at times.
It's goodness.
Most of life is still good.
Most people are still good.
And it's our job to protect it,
to multiply it, to pass it on.
You're not alone in your feeling of,
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Do not allow others to feel alone.
You have to pass on, yes,
but look at all of the good.
That's how you push back on darkness.
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you know, as I'm here
telling you, you know,
there is hope for society.
I want to go to the
master of hope
where we've all
run so much hope
over the years,
Snoop Dogg.
Snoop Dog, not exactly the one that you would think
would be the one you go like,
yeah,
I can hang my hat on that one.
But you can today.
What do you bring his kids to a Disney movie or something?
Pixar, yeah.
A Disney movie.
I think it was.
It was a toy sport,
Buzz Lightyear.
Toy Story.
Yeah, the spin-off.
Yeah, Toy Story spin off.
Right, right, right.
Buzz.
Speaking on a podcast, he said he was,
went to the movie and his,
um,
his,
his,
his,
his,
his grandson asked him how,
uh,
Alicia in the movie was able to have a child with another woman.
And he,
his response was,
I'll, uh,
edit slightly here.
Oh,
crap.
I didn't come in for this crap.
I just came in to watch the,
gosh darn movie.
Uh,
it,
it,
it screwed me up.
Wow.
There's a lot of editing.
This very few words.
I'm trying to do this on the fly.
About,
about half of them have to go.
I apologize to all stations.
It screwed me up.
I'm like scared to go to the movies now.
Y'all throwing me in the middle of this junk that I don't have an answer for.
These are kids.
We have to show that at this age.
They're going to ask questions.
I don't have the answer.
That's interesting.
I mean, because he's not doing it for political purposes.
I'm sure he's not going to say any conservative by any means.
No.
He's just saying like,
this is, I think, the very normal reaction to families who want basic enjoyment, want happiness,
want some nice experience with their kids without having to get into the biggest questions we have in our world.
Right? That's a basic thing you should be able to accomplish with a movie.
I think it's a really hard balance to stay absolutely engaged and in the fight.
But only when you're on the front lines and you have to be.
and in your real life to be exactly like him.
What the?
Why?
Why?
Because that's where everybody is living.
They are not living on the edges of this audience is different.
You're engaged.
You want to know about politics.
You want to know about the...
Everybody else generally doesn't want to know, okay?
They just want to live their life.
And if you're like me, I just really want to live my life too.
But we know we have a civic responsibility.
to stay engaged.
But that's the way, I think, to win people over.
And to also keep hope.
That's the average person.
That's Snoop Dog.
Snoop Dog has done things, I'm sure, in his life that, you know, might have to have him explain as well.
I don't understand what did you just do there?
And even he is saying, we don't need this crap with our children.
That's good news.
I can't believe I'm saying this.
Thank you, Snoop Dog, or if I may call you Mr. Dog or Mr. Snoop or Snoop Dog.
