The Glenn Beck Program - The NBA's Gambling Scandal Is ... Exactly What America Needs?! | Guest: Jonathon Seidl | 10/24/25
Episode Date: October 24, 2025Glenn and Stu discuss the scandal that rocked the sports world when FBI Director Kash Patel announced the outcome of a years-long investigation into the NBA regarding illegal betting. Is the Italian M...afia still running Las Vegas?! Glenn and Stu discuss how critical it is for Republicans to win the midterms. Are we headed toward a civil war? Glenn urges his listeners to be prepared for anything as the Left continues to fan the flames of political divisiveness. Glenn passionately speaks on the importance of following the mission of Jesus Christ. Glenn takes calls from his listeners to discuss various topics of faith and the current state of America. Jonathon Seidl joins to discuss his new book, "Confessions of a Christian Alcoholic," which dives into what society gets wrong about alcoholism. Stu gives Glenn the new U.S. test that immigrants must pass to become U.S. citizens. Did Glenn pass? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hello, Stu. How are you?
I'm doing very well.
Glenn, how are you?
That is fabulous.
fabulous. It's a great story, especially the way I tell it.
It really is. It really is. And I'm just thrilled to hear it. You seem it.
So, you know, can I talk to you a little bit about the basketball gambling scandal?
I'm sorry. I know, I know, I know. I know. Wait, what? You know about the basketball gambling scandal?
I know very little bit about it. Okay. I don't know the names of the people that are involved. I mean, I heard them, but I'm like, I don't know what that is.
Yeah, Hall of Famer. No deal.
So, but I'm listening to this story.
And, you know, one of the things that caught my attention was how sophisticated it was, you know, X-ray tables that could read the cards from underneath.
Yeah, this is the illegal poker game part of this scenario.
And the, you know, the contacts where they could read the back of the cards, all of these different things.
And I thought that was really kind of, that's kind of cool.
That's kind of James Bondi.
Yeah.
I was kind of a little interested in that.
But then I got to the point to where it was four out of the five crime families.
okay and the newscast I heard was it was the Italian mafia and then you know
Genovese crime family blah blah blah blah and I actually got to the end of that story and I'm like
oh do you remember when we just had the five crime families they were killing each other in New York
it's like it's like my childhood coming back you know it's like oh I understand this news
warm and fuzzy memories of the mob right it was yeah it was like when you're
In crime made sense.
I like that take.
That makes me feel a lot better about it.
That's what I'm here for today.
Yeah, it does feel kind of antiquated.
A little like, you know, quaint.
It's like old fashion.
You know, it's like, hey, somebody went in and robbed all the sasparilla from the fountain.
I like that.
That's the way to go with this, I think.
It really is.
It really is.
It does feel like, you know,
You think about these players, some of them have made hundreds of millions of dollars in their careers.
And they're worried about illegal poker games and, you know, a couple of hundred thousand dollars betting on the under on Terry Rozier's assists or something.
So that part, did you ever see any of those games?
Like, because the way I heard it, you know, that's the way I interpreted it.
Sure.
That, you know, they got hurt.
and then they had to leave early or whatever.
There was, yeah, the main one that they highlighted was a guy who basically told people in advance he was going to leave the game early.
And so everyone could bet the under.
Like they score less fewer points.
And then he left after nine minutes of the game.
So he didn't hit any of those.
So did he get hurt?
Did he like, ow, ow, ow, ow.
I think it was a fake injury.
Yeah.
Was it obvious?
I don't remember watching that game.
There have been highlights release.
of him. Just to give you a background quickly on this player, very good player for many years.
And over the last two years, his entire career has mysteriously fallen apart. I mean, it was like
outside of the gambling, like what happened to this guy, Terry Rozier? Who was like a good player
for a long time, you know, 20 points a game type of guy and then couldn't even get on the court,
like was traded for a number one pick and, and all of a sudden just fell apart. And some of the
highlights of games of his are so bad. Like, there are plays that I would.
would see when I was coaching my seven-year-old's basketball games.
Like, they're horrible that you would never see an NBA player make.
And the insinuation now, of course, is it had to be something related to the gambling.
Though in the indictment, I don't think it was charged like that particular game that he had done anything with.
But he looked so bad that either something was really going on with him physically or he, you know, allegedly was gambling.
What was the NBA's tie to the card table?
So the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers, Chauncey Phillips is a
Portland.
A Hall of Fame player.
Yeah, I had to bring Portland.
I was happy with the Italian mafia.
And now you have to remind me Portland.
Right.
So he was playing, the fascinating part of this, he was playing, they had set up these
illegal poker games.
And a lot of people are like, well, I can't believe now they made gambling legal,
all these scandals are happening.
Let me just remind you of the word illegal.
illegal and illegal poker games.
Like, part of this was done on, you know, legal betting services on the sports stuff,
but like the poker has is illegal.
This all still happened.
Okay.
So you're not allowed.
What's funny is they're not really getting in trouble for having illegal poker games.
They're having trouble for cheating at the illegal poker games, which is with all the
technology you were mentioning.
And what they did was say, hey, we're going to have these underground poker games.
some of them underground in Vegas, which, by the way, you can play legal poker games in Vegas.
Don't go to illegal poker games when you're getting this type of pitch, which was, hey, come, you'll sit next to Hall of Fame players and like, you know, former players.
They're all big money.
And they're not even top-notch players.
They don't know.
Who knows?
They might lose.
And everyone was in at the table except the fish.
A couple of fish that would come in.
Nice.
You did read this indictment.
And you're using poker terminology.
It's impressive.
but like so these guys would come in.
Some of them were professional poker players.
And of course, their motivation for being there, we should note, was to take advantage of the stupid players that were going to do dumb things during these games.
Now, was this, that's the, in a legal way.
Was this, were these the, the NBA players that were kind of muscled into it because of their poker debts?
I think there is, there are some stories about that in the, in the, in the indictment where they, um,
Players had debts, so they had to come and participate in the illegal games to essentially pay off their mafia gambling debts that were unrelated.
Now, of course, this stuff has happened forever.
The fascinating part about this is...
No, the mob does not exist.
Well, yeah, for the mob does not exist.
I mean, if the mob does exist, I want them to know, I love them.
You're a huge fan.
I'm a huge fan of the mafia.
If they existed.
But they don't exist, so let's not even talk about them.
What, one fascinating part of this.
Can you tell we lived in Connecticut for a while?
The pizza's delicious.
It's really good.
It's really good.
Really good.
So the, there are now clips being unearthed.
I saw one yesterday of a 2023 clip of a professional poker player saying all of this was going on.
This is now two years ago saying he knew people who would go to these games and they would play against Chauncey Billups.
There was a guy mentioned.
And obviously they were cheating because they would just.
just like go all in on, you know, combinations of cards that you would never go all in on.
And they just would win every time.
And so it was really obvious to the professionals who were going there and going, oh, I see what's happening here.
And they would stop going.
This was like a known thing.
Now, it's a comical situation when it comes to the poker stuff because, you know, again, you're talking like,
Chauncey Phillips made nine figures in his career.
he's not a guy who like certainly is short on money some people well apparently he was if he had
gambling debts well i don't know the mom i don't think he was the guy in that particular i could be
wrong on that there was a lot of you know there's multiple people involved in this i may have missed
up the details but like you know some people you're right can gamble away a hundred million dollars
it's certainly possible uh but the you know if you're an addict right it doesn't matter like
we always say you know you talk about alcoholism right if you're a big alcoholism right if you're a big
alcoholic like people would say wait well you've got all this to live for why would you ruin it with
alcohol well you're addicted you're you're having a real problem you have a you know they would call
a disease right right it's a serious issue that's not easy to just drop off you know it makes me
stop drinking mob threats that's when I'm like I think I have a problem all right but anyway
if they existed if they existed and they wouldn't threat we we know if they for anyone in this fictional
Costa Nostra thing.
We know you wouldn't threaten anyone.
The pizza is great.
It's fantastic.
Some of the best sauce you'll ever have.
Yeah.
Ever have.
But yeah, so it's a pretty amazing story.
And, you know, it is not as bad, I think, as previous gambling stories.
We're like referees.
We're actually fixing games.
Right.
Like, that is a much, much worse thing than what we see at least so far in this.
But it's a pretty big story.
And I'm impressed, Glenn.
Like, you're aware of it.
You seem to have actual information about it.
Thank you.
What's going on with you?
We used to have conversations about sports that would just be nonstop comedy because you were so embarrassing about your knowledge.
Well, this isn't really, this was a mob story.
Okay.
This was a mob story.
All right.
Okay.
I have zero interest in the NBA.
Okay.
Zero.
So this is basically your version of a mob movie.
That's as close as I could get to a mob movie today.
And I love mob movies.
So, anyway, mainly I like why.
watching mob movies.
Well, I mean, I like the characters in them,
but I really like the food.
You know what I mean?
Like, like, you know, you get to eat like that?
I don't know.
Is it worth it?
Is that blood or is that tomato sauce?
I don't know.
As someone who grew up near New Haven, Connecticut,
and you worked in New Haven, Connecticut for years,
like, there is a calculation made by the community that they're kind of fine with the mob
if they can have the pizza.
Like, we're actually.
Oh, yeah.
The pizza's so good.
You guys can commit a certain number of crimes.
Can I tell you something?
That's the only part of New Haven, though, that makes any sense.
Yeah, that's pretty much true.
I mean, New Haven is just a crap hole.
It is.
Come on, it is.
Not the surrounding areas.
New Haven itself, crap.
It has some bad situations around.
I mean, it starts at Yale and then goes downhill.
Okay.
Except, yeah.
Worcester Street, this whole area completely not run by the mob.
And it is, it's the safest place.
You could, you could take a woman and ever take all of her clothes off and tape $100 bills to her and say,
walk down this street at 11 o'clock at night and she's totally safe, totally safe.
Unless one of the mob bosses are like, you know what?
I think maybe we got to talk to our all the way here, bring it all over here, you know.
Otherwise, there's no crime happening there.
And we should move, but all of this outside of the pizza quality is alleged.
And we don't know, have any information.
I'm a fiction writer.
I'm a fiction writer.
Not the pizza, though.
The pizza is that good.
Anyone who knows pizza, like, you'll hear a lot of people say, oh, New York pizza,
New York style pizza.
That doesn't mean you know anything about pizza.
No.
If they say New Haven.
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It is really, it truly is the best pizza out there.
But I tell you, they get.
it on that particular street,
do not ask anything about the pizza.
And if it comes, because it's brick oven,
and so, you know, it'll come a little burned.
That's the way it comes.
Supposed to come up.
Do not say anything about it.
Can I have my crust?
Don't do that.
Don't do it.
They just take it away from you.
Yes.
They look at you.
Then they look at the picture of Frank Sinatra on the wall.
Then they look at you.
and you're dead.
Just leave.
It's like a soup Nazi situation a little bit.
It can be.
It really is.
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Right.
That's probably a bad thing.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, certainly like they, you think about social media, right?
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you know, someone pointed this out the other day.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Yeah, totally.
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Yeah, yeah. Like it is like they they could they could tell you a very interesting story about
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how do you take that
what is that
that friend trying to say
to you
stew
I mean it could be that I have information
that I'm going to get to the government about your illegal poker games.
What the hell is that?
Well, I mean, I was thinking about it a little bit.
Uh-huh.
This is what he said to me in the break.
He just, we were talking about other things.
We were like, okay, we got to talk about this.
We've got to talk about this.
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I'm like, excuse me, what?
Well, 10 seconds.
Wait a minute.
What?
My thought process was, you know, there was, you know, there was, you know, there was,
a there was a truce of sorts in our country where you didn't go after your political enemies
with the force of law.
Uh-huh.
Democrats decided, if you remember recently,
I do.
That they were going to break that truce and just dissolve all of the traditions that we
had in that area.
Correct.
By trying to throw Donald Trump in prison over and over and over again.
Now, you may have noted that, uh,
you know, we are having a situation where I think this is going to be the norm going forward.
And when the next Democrat gets in office, I'm not saying you're at the top of the list to get thrown into a gulag, but you're not at the bottom of it.
Right.
So this might be.
And you're just going to skate.
You're just fine.
Oh, I turn state's evidence immediately on you.
The easiest thing in the world for me, because I can just go in there and be like, oh, let me tell you all the stuff I know about Clinton.
And they're going to, I'm free.
I think I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
But I do think, you know, you know, Donald's not going to be president forever.
What country?
Well, imagine if like AOC is the president of the United States.
Oh, please don't.
Do you think there's going to be, by the way, not completely outlandish.
She's right in the, I would say, middle of the pack right now in the Democratic primary if she were to run.
And you never know what's going to have.
happen. There's a bunch of different thing.
That could never happen. By the way,
Mom Dami looks like there's absolutely no way of stopping him from being mayor.
But anyway, go ahead. What was your point?
So my point is what someone like that gets into office?
It is. I mean, if.
Better come after anyone who's ever, who's ever said anything about low taxes.
If anybody thinks, I mean, we, we must win the midterms.
And we must win 2028.
I mean, because he has come after, you know, when he starts saying you're a terrorist organization and which I believe, you know, Antifa is a terrorist organization.
When you say, I'm coming after George Soros, Bill Gates and the Ford Foundation, all of these things, you are, you have declared war.
And they are not, when they have the opportunity to punch back, they are going to punch back.
God help us.
Yeah.
God help us.
He's either got to wipe it out,
uh,
or we're screwed.
We're screwed.
And look, we could all, uh, you hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
Yeah.
So what, so what country is going to be the country?
First of all, I would never shut up.
So I go to anywhere.
I go to Antarctica.
I'm time organizing the penguins.
You know what I mean?
I'm like, look it.
We got to go back into America and free America.
And free America.
So, I mean, where do you go where the United States?
Remember how they were uniting people, you know, Biden under Biden.
They were, I mean, they were trying to get Elon Musk, you know, destroy him in like four different countries.
So where do you go?
You go nowhere.
Well, first of all, someone who's known you for 30 years.
It's true, you never shut up, including at movie theaters and concerts and funerals.
concerts.
So, yes.
And so that's number one.
I do agree with you on that part of it.
I think like your goal in a situation like that, and you've probably put more thought
into this than I have, but like with your goal into a situation where a government has
become weaponized to come after you is to move your name down the list.
And one of the ways you do that is just add barriers.
Like if you're not, if you're at your house in Texas, they just show up.
if you're in another country, they've got to make a few phone calls.
I mean, just add barriers.
There's a lot of people they're going to target.
Make yourself lower on the list.
Yeah, you're in another country.
You know what comes to mind?
Two words.
Red mist.
That's what comes to mind, you know.
And if they're back in charge with big food and big farmer, they're like red mist, put it on the fruit loops.
Yeah.
It's very inexpensive artificial coloring.
Very good.
All right.
Let me take some phone calls.
Tammy and Virginia.
Welcome to the Glymbic program.
Hi, Tammy.
Nice to be here.
Thank you.
It's your turn.
Now's the time.
We have not done this in a while.
Apparently it's more difficult than I remember.
Now's your time.
I got it.
Okay, good.
When I was taught, I was thinking when a civil war, if a civil war came to the country,
it would be between the people on the streets.
Never did I ever dream that it would be government official, like in Illinois,
in California, not listening to the laws,
not listening to the administration.
Yeah.
And I'm wondering, where does this lead?
Well, you know, let me say this, Tammy.
It's a little like I'm an alcoholic.
And for several years, before I admitted I was an alcoholic,
I would ask myself every day,
am I an alcoholic?
When you're asking,
asking the question, pretty good shot.
You're deeply down that road.
So if you're asking, is this going to develop into a civil war?
I've never asked that before up until recently.
You know what I mean?
I've lived for 62 years.
I've lived in America.
Never had that, never had that thought.
We're going to go into a civil war?
Never had that thought.
Okay.
Now you kind of ask yourself all, every day.
if they're doing this and they are blocking the feds from actually doing constitutionally what they're supposed to do,
and that then triggers the constitution on an insurrection,
which would mean the government then has to,
has the right and the power to go into those states and put down an insurrection.
Yeah, I don't think we need to ask ourselves,
where is that leading. We know where that's leading.
And it's no place good.
But there is a difference, you know, are we in a civil war?
Again, I go back to the alcoholic thing.
You don't need to ask that question.
You know, you know, when it comes, you know.
So wait, you're saying we are in a civil war?
No, we're asking the question?
No, no.
I'm saying that the, I'm saying that the likelihood of going into a civil war is higher than any other time in my lifetime.
Because we're all asking that question of,
is this going to lead to a civil war?
I mean, what happens?
Yeah, so we're all asking this question because we all have the same feeling.
I can't find the way out of this because they're using police to go against federal police.
So you've got that conflict.
That's bad.
That's not civil war.
No, no, no.
I know.
I said it's more likely to happen because we're seeing these things.
When you go into a civil war, no one's going to ask, is this a civil war?
war because civil wars are quite obvious it's not like oh it's a police action no civil war will
destroy everything it's it's how we turn into Haiti uh you don't want a civil war you want to
do everything you can to avoid a civil war so is it like you know uh michael more walks into a restaurant
yes uh first of all the chefs are terrified but walks into a restaurant and sits down the
Very happy.
Right.
He's just like, we're going to run out of food.
Somebody go out and get more.
So Michael Moore walks into a restaurant, sits down at a table, looks across the restaurant.
And across the restaurant, on the other side of the restaurant, is Jennifer Aniston.
Mm-hmm.
Now.
Don't know where you're going with this, but it's an interesting scenario so far.
He eats Jennifer.
No.
He think, so walking into the restaurant, the chances of Michael Moore having a fling with,
Jennifer Aniston, we're incredibly low, like almost zero.
Right.
Now that they're in the same location, the odds are increased.
However, still it's very unlikely.
Would you say that's where we are with civil war?
If he's mixing her drinks, the odds go up.
Now, who's mixing our drinks?
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
So you're saying it's not necessarily a high probability event of a Civil War.
But it is becoming more and more likely.
It doesn't mean that it's, you know, high.
I think we're at 15% now.
15%.
You think it's that high for a civil war?
Yeah, maybe 20.
Holy crap.
That's depressing.
This is what I'm saying about citizenship.
I know.
Let's go somewhere else.
War game this.
You have people who are intentionally funding a color revolution.
But you've been talking about this for 20 years.
Right.
And notice things are starting to happen and come true.
When I was talking about it, remember, that's when Harry's like, that's crazy.
Yes.
And we're going to have, we're going to watch TV on our phones too.
Okay.
Right.
Now all this stuff is happening.
And everything that I told you was like, these people are all going to work together to do this.
And it's going to be a color revolution.
We now have proof that they are doing a.
color revolution here in America, and they're funding it to $300 million for the No Kings weekend.
We know what their intent is.
So we also know that, you know, did you see the stuff on Snap?
Look at this.
So they're now saying that we're going to run out of money for Snap.
Right.
Some states are starting to get to that point.
Right.
You look at X and you'll see person after person after person.
Americans, you got to get ready to loot after Snap is going to get canceled.
And Snaps the food stamps.
Food stamps.
The new name for food stamps.
So, you know, we can't get a job.
We won't have any food.
And there's people that are seriously now saying we should riot.
And lots of influence from foreign governments.
Absolutely.
That might own particular apps that you're on.
Correct.
So it's, I mean, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter what's real.
It's, there was this book called, um,
positioning the battleground of your mind.
It was what started and explained the cola wars.
Okay.
Pepsi versus Coke came out in the early 80s.
That's a kind of civil war I like, by the way.
Me too.
I mean,
and what it talked is,
what it talked about was perception is reality.
And,
you know,
when you perceive something one way and the society perceives it one way,
then it becomes reality.
the perception here for a lot of people on the left is the only way to solve this is through violence.
That's becoming more.
I would say that that's, I'm hopeful that it's less than 5% of our population believes that violence is the answer.
But that number is growing.
And the apathy toward violence, political violence, is growing probably fast.
than the actual people that would commit the violence, right?
Yeah.
And I do think, you know, when you talk about social media, perception is an interesting part of that, right?
Like, it's why they say in relationships in your marriage, like, don't talk about divorce.
Like, don't threaten divorce when you don't mean it because it becomes closer and closer to reality.
So I can see what you're saying from, from that standpoint.
I think a lot of people have this idea.
Maybe it's because some spend their weekends for free reenacting the civil.
war that it might not be that bad?
It would be very bad.
Very bad.
It's not something that you want to keep bringing to the forefront of our political
conversation.
No.
I will say that.
I know you're warning against it for sure.
I'm not advocating.
I know.
I am warning.
That's my job is to warn for anybody who has eyes and ears, listen up.
This is the plan from the left.
The government has now recognized that and is trying to curb that,
but they're dead serious about color revolution.
And so when you know that that is happening,
you have to put in gear the opposite direction.
We have to go the opposite direction and try at all cost to hold things together,
keep people peaceful as long as possible to hopefully turn this corner.
Because a corner is being turned.
but as the light grows stronger,
would you agree with me that the light since Charlie's death,
the light has grown stronger?
Okay, I believe it as.
Good is starting to wake up.
But at the same time,
the darkness is growing darker.
Can you disagree with that in the last five weeks?
Have you not seen real darkness?
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I don't, I'm so confused on where.
You're the one saying Civil War is 20%.
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Hello, Alan.
Hello, Glenn.
How you doing?
So I am just thrilled to talk to you
and Stu, I just, you guys are
America's watchman.
As soon as you said, I'm going to take
a few calls. Something in my head triggered to me to actually give that man a call right now
because I just see a few canaries in the coal mine, Glenn, and I know you guys do too.
If you guys see what's going on in Virginia, the AG race, I mean, it's just, you got Mondami
there in New York. I mean, the Virginia race, I mean, what was said that the evilness behind it,
it just goes along with what's going on up here in Maine. We have a Senate race going on up here.
Everybody knows Senator Susan Collins. She's not a friend to consider.
conservatives by any means.
We are being pushed in the corner up here because we are, we have no, we have no, you
nobody is in our corner for us, really.
She's, she's the only one we have up here.
It's getting really, really blue.
And we have a man right now running for the Senate who, uh, who's an actual Nazi.
I'm, I'm saying that because he's, the things he said on the stump is, is really
disturbing.
As a Christian, I'm, as a, as a Jewish Christian, I am very upset the things he said.
And the tattoo that just came out and he just supposedly covered it up.
It's not just an ordinary tattoo, Glenn.
This is an SS soldier tattoo.
This is the worst of the worst.
And what scares me the most is the new poll that just came out, the New Hampshire poll.
It puts him almost doubled over Janet Mills.
She's the, you know, she's the Democrat from, you know, the establishment Democrats.
So hang on just a second.
So hang on just a second.
it scares me that people will just vote for you know an AG in Virginia who's like hey just let the blood flow in the streets and a Nazi in Maine but do you think in the general he would win over Susan Collins you know you know Glenn I've been thinking about it lately and the same the same push that made me call you is is ringing in my head right now and it's just bringing up a question
quote that you brought up in a book that you wrote. And it was a quote that Hitler made. And it talks about
how the spirit becomes almost like magic, you know, and that's what's coming right now.
If you look at the youth right now, they're being, I mean, they're pushed against the corner too,
you know, guys, it's expensive out there. Just hamburger alone is very expensive. And if you see what
these people are saying on the stump speeches, they're, you know, like Russia should say,
their skulls full of mush. And they are. They're absolute mush. And they're absorbing this stuff like
sponges. And this man's out on the stump saying the things that they want to hear.
year. You know, Mondami's not doing anything different than no one else has ever done, but he's
given these people hope, you know, and that's what they're grabbing on to. They don't mean it.
You know, just like, just like the Islamists, they'll lie to their adversaries, and I believe
these people are lying to our faces, and we know that for a fact. And I know, Glenn, for the
years I've been listening to you and reading your books. So these, these people are serious.
I mean, if you took what they, what they did during COVID, I mean, we haven't even got to the
bottom of that yet. Thousands of people lost their jobs. And this man's out there saying things that just
his rallies are bringing in the youth.
The rallies are packing in people, and I'm a little worried.
You know, this might be the actual, in the grand election,
this could be the end for Senator Susan Collins,
and it's not going to go the way we think.
I mean, we have no one up here in New England.
And if you really think about it,
New England is where all of us really came.
You know, the Mayflower, I mean, a lot of our history, Boston, Maine,
and we Massachusetts, we are rich in history,
the first Fort Knox up here.
We just, Glenn, you know it.
These people, we have, they've forgotten the history and it upsets me so much because we're so rich in history up here.
And this guy's going out there saying things that just, it's disgusting.
And I don't know.
Do you really think Senator, I mean, I don't see her grabbing on to Trump.
I mean, I don't, she's, she's going to try to grab onto Democratic votes.
I don't think it's going to work.
He's going to take them.
He's going to take the votes for her.
And then what?
The conservatives are going to, I mean, I know, no one, we, we don't really love Susan Collins.
but if we lose our people, that's a, that's a heavy voice and a heavy hand that we need right now.
I'm just, it's just not looking good.
I'm afraid, Glenn, that the youth are buying what these, what these Islamists and what these Marxists,
like you said, they're working together, and they're grabbing onto it, and they're chewing it up,
and they're swallowing it.
And it's upset to me because I wish Trump would come up here and do a speech and do it,
and just do a rally, because we're just, I mean, you know what's going on with our grograft.
from China taking over.
I mean, it's getting to a point where.
Alan.
Alan?
Yes, sir.
I can hear it in your voice and I feel what you're feeling.
And I just, I want you to know,
Texas is a wonderful place to live.
Florida is a wonderful place to live.
I know nobody wants to give up on their,
on their areas.
But there are places that, you know, I think Minnesota, I think, you know, some parts of Michigan
and may lose all of Michigan at some point that are just, they are, they're being fed to the
wolves and they are being fed to the wolves by the Democrats.
The Democrats made this deal with the devil to get into bed.
with the leftist and the Islamists,
and they thought they could control them.
Well, Chuck Schumer is terrified.
The Democrats, the old Democrats that made this deal and played foots with them
are all terrified that they are going to be eaten by their own leftist crazies.
And you're seeing it now, you know, where you have a, you know, an okay Democrat,
as far as that goes in Maine running against a Nazi and the Nazi is winning.
This is we are in extraordinarily difficult times and I know that.
And I want you to know that you're not alone in feeling that,
but you're also not alone in praying and trying to do the right thing.
So let me give you this.
this piece of advice, just do the next right thing.
Exercise your faith in God that God has control and he is not neutral in the affairs of
men.
That requires us, if we want the blessings, it requires us to do all of the hard work.
We cannot sit on the sidelines.
We cannot give up.
We must do all that we can do and then let it go.
Whatever happens, it's his will and he will work it out.
We don't deserve the blessings that we have already received.
We don't.
We don't deserve.
Look at how we question 2020.
And now look at how if we all know, if 2020, if Donald Trump would have won then,
We would not be in the place we're in right now on the good side because Donald Trump changed.
God saved him.
He found God, I really believe, in Butler.
He educated himself over the last four years.
What he and his family went through in those four years changed him.
And now we have this version of Donald Trump, not the 2020 version of Donald Trump.
And yet I was on the air.
going, this is really bad. There's no way out of this. We could be doomed by 2024. And we might
have been, but look at the miracles that happened in the summer of 2024 that led up to Donald
Trump winning. We've got to let our version of what has to happen go. We have to just do the
next right thing and the Lord will work it out. We cannot
value our second citizenship, our passport in the United States of America, we cannot value that
higher than our first citizenship in the kingdom. He is the king. No king but Christ. He is the one we
answer to. He is the one we put our faith in. He is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob,
and if anyone can save it, it is him, not us.
We are dealing with true evil, unlike anything I've ever seen in my lifetime.
We are dealing with, as I said, in 2008, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, said almost every day,
we are going to see the evil that we have not seen since the 1930s.
We're going to see it on our own streets here in America.
well it is here
and there's no way for man
to defeat evil
without God
but I have great faith
why is God is God a taunting God
is he a God that just plays with us
why would he save Donald Trump
at that moment
why would he save and preserve his life
he's not toying with us.
Why would he let Charlie Kirk go?
Because Charlie Kirk lived his life every second doing exactly what God told him to do
and look at the miracle that has happened since the death of Charlie Kirk.
The number of people that watch that memorial is estimated to be over 1.2 billion people watch that memorial.
We just received a Bible from an auction that we bought.
And it's one of the first Bibles printed here in America.
And in it, back in the old days, you know, Bibles and books were just very expensive.
And so you went to leaders and, you know, influencers, if you will, and very wealthy people.
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Third one, Secretary of War, Alexander Hamilton.
We believe, and we're still doing our homework on this, we believe, we believe,
that is the last time that
cabinet and those kinds of people
testified publicly of Jesus Christ
until the miracle
of the memorial at Charlie Kirk
where you had the president, the vice
president, the secretary of state, the secretary of war,
health and human services, and everybody else
openly testify.
Not saying I love God.
Not even saying I love Jesus.
Saying Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior of the world.
That does not happen.
Now our job is to take that seed that Charlie planted in his own life
and then in the harvest the Lord took and started just planted.
planting seeds and showing us how ripe the fields are all over the world.
It's our job now, not just to go back to church.
That's a revival.
We don't need a revival.
We've had revivals over and over and over again.
You know when the biggest revivals were happening in America?
In the last hundred years.
We had a revival in 1900, 1920, 1930.
We kept having revivals.
Did anything in America change?
No.
Those are the times when eugenics started growing out of control, when we started changing our country towards this progressive nightmare where we made our God government.
We don't need a revival because that puts people in the pews.
What we need is an awakening.
And that means you get out of the pew if they're not talking about it.
And you tell your pastor, I cannot come here anymore because you won't talk.
about applying these principles to everything we do every day. The awakenings happen outside of
the church. The church is the last one. When there's an awakening, there is a reformation,
not just of the churches, but also of government and our own private families and institutions.
Because the leadership of those families, institutions, companies, government, they all have been to church,
They heard the word, but they're awake, and they now say, I'm applying this in my own life.
I'm awake.
It's why I'm talking like I'm talking to you right now.
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The time to say, we must obey the true king and savior of the universe, Jesus Christ,
and live the way he taught us to live.
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We must elect people who understand who their king is.
No king but Christ.
Who is your king?
Who do you serve?
Who do you answer to?
You find those people and we elect those people.
We live our lives in a way that we might in some way.
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Okay, welcome back to the show.
I'm not going to apologize to you, but I just want to explain to you.
I just, I have felt things more deeply in the last six or eight months than I have in a very, very long time.
and part of it is just because there's so much change in my own life right now
that it's just a little it's it's a little tender inside but also
there is a change in all of us or you know those who are are beginning to be awake
there is a change he is doing something with the people and I just sometimes
things like I just said that did not come from me and there's something
that I say that I know that it's just true because I know I'm not the author of those words.
Pray every day.
Pray every day.
Lord, just help me be on your side.
Help me just do the right thing.
Please don't let me dishonor myself.
Please let me hear.
I prayed this morning that I would actually hear you when you would call.
and I could feel that.
I could feel it.
I heard you.
We need to make sure that we're all there for one another
because that's all that really matters.
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We're just sitting here just talking about,
you know, all the good.
New Haven pizza places because we talked about it for some.
Oh, the Costa Nostra, you know, the basketball scandal.
We were talking about, you know, the mafia.
And not that the mafia exists in New Haven, Connecticut.
No, just the best pizza in the world.
And, oh, my gosh.
I'd give my right arm for a slice of pepies or sallies or even the spot or modern.
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You know you're living in a place that's really, really good when you could name.
I just named four really good pizza places.
in one small town where we live here in Texas,
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I couldn't name one place that makes actually good pizza,
you know?
There's a couple.
Yeah, there's a couple.
It's hard,
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Let me go to John in Indiana.
Hello, John.
Welcome to the Glenbeck program.
Hello again, old friend.
How are you?
I'm doing well.
Hey, I just wanted to thank you for coming up here to Fort Wayne.
last week and celebrating the 100th anniversary of Owo.
Yeah.
It was great.
I loved it.
I love the people.
I love Fort Wayne.
People in Fort Wayne are just the best, the best.
Well, thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah, I also wanted to thank you for the prayer.
I'm a firm believer that prayer works.
I am too.
I am too.
John, thank you so much.
I appreciate it.
Let me go to Mike in Connecticut.
Hello, Mike.
Hey, Glenn.
God bless.
I'll tell you, talking about New Haven.
Vinnie Penn, I'm a fan of Vinnie Penn over here.
He supposedly sent you a couple of messages for me in the last couple of years.
All right.
I avoid Vinny's emails like the plague.
Anyway, that's okay, too.
Everybody has their things.
Fair.
Totally fair.
I've been listening to, you know, AAM radio for a long time.
And my pastor actually had a show with John Rowland.
years ago called Church and State, which got me a little more about locally. I started making
phone calls. And I had this idea. I listened to everybody complain on these radio stations all the
time, but I'm an idea guy. How are you going to fix these things? They started talking about
stopping doing business with China. I said, start with the shoes, you know, whatever. But my idea
is to get, I hear everybody talk about stand. Your clips have stand. And I mean, I once heard you
say Billy Graham told you there would be a time when you would be asked to stand.
and it would feel strange or something.
I think we all need to stand together.
At the same time, I wanted to get this going before the 2020 election for Trump,
like on Memorial Day, then Fourth of July, where everybody stands at 12-12
because of the significance of the 12 in the Bible,
and stand and either do a peace sign, put your hand on your chest for prayer
or, you know, state a pledge of allegiance for like two minutes,
slow the trucks down.
If we could all stand and do it in all four time zones,
maybe we could do a Thanksgiving Christmas,
but get that silent majority.
I will tell you, Mike,
thanks for the idea.
It's a great idea.
If you've ever been to Israel,
on their independence,
I think it's Independence Day.
On their Independence Day,
they all stop,
I think at noon.
And the first time I experienced it,
I was in the airport.
And I was waiting for the car to come and pick me up at the airport.
And the sirens went off at noon.
And everybody stopped.
And I didn't know what was going on.
And like on the streets, all the cars pulled over.
Like nothing moved in the entire country for like three minutes.
And it was phenomenal.
And I thought the same thing.
What a uniting thing.
Can you imagine just on Fourth of July, all of it.
I don't know if we have the discipline to do it.
But everything stopped.
Everything stopped for a couple of minutes.
And it's a powerful, powerful thing when you can get the entire country to do that.
Let me go to Mark, South Dakota.
Hello, Mark.
Yeah, hi.
Thank you for taking my call.
Sure.
To see if they could, it's Donald Trump or the Republicans to start a bill,
turn it into an amendment that would end.
federal government to incentivize or give to illegal of our taxpayer dollars. If you think about it,
over the last four years, they used our genocide upon the American people, and it was genocide.
And they all- Wait, wait, wait, wait, I can't let that go. What, what, what was genocide?
Just our money to incentivize illegals to come across this 40,000, no, not just people-
Okay, okay, okay. All right. I don't know if I would call that genocide, but it is a very serious problem. But go ahead.
I know, I know, I got it.
If they made a bill that would not allow the Democrats to use our taxpayer dollars to do something like this again, it would slow down this country.
Even if they take up enriching the drug cart, get money by sending people over here.
So I think this is a great idea, Mark, and unfortunately needed.
but let me take it from a give you the kudos for the idea and yes i think it's a great idea
and needed let me just say this why the hell do we need that that used to be common sense
that used to be something that we didn't have this is why this system is wholly inadequate
to quote the founders wholly inaccurate for an irreligious and immoral uh set of people
It cannot happen because you cannot be free if you need laws to tell you things like
don't encourage people to come here illegally.
Don't spend our tax dollars on things that are helping drug cartels and human smugglers.
If we have to have a law that is passed not for bad guys on the streets,
but for our own politicians, you're not saving the country.
So while yes, that's a needed thing, what is needed more is a return to common sense and truth,
a uniting around common principles.
That is our problem.
We have no common principles anymore.
I mean, look at the big ones.
Hey, should you be able to just kill somebody because you disagree?
agree with them? You want them to shut up? What percentage of America is now saying, well,
probably? What do you think that is? I don't even know. 40%? When you're, when you are,
when you got a guy with a Nazi death head tattooed on him, when you have another politician
running, and he might win, and you have another politician in Virginia who is saying,
hey, yeah, I think we should be able to kill the politician. And I would really love to see
his wife hold her two babies as they're bleeding to death in her arms.
There's no law.
There is no law that's going to fix that.
There is no law.
There is only a return to truth that fixes those things.
Let me go to Fred in Ohio.
Hello, Fred.
Hey, good morning.
Glenn, I'd like to say what an honor and privilege it is to be on your radio program.
morning. Thank you. And yes, I called about the sanctuary cities. I know a while back there was a
big push to eliminate funding for from sanctuary cities and a few of them ended up in court.
What is the current status of that movement to remove the funding? I think it's tied up in court.
So there is no, I mean, as soon as we get these, I mean, these judges are,
The whole thing needs to be revamped.
I mean, it really has to be revamped.
But when these judges think that they can stop the constitutional actions,
when you have a court that is saying, I'm sorry, but we can, we can, they're now saying, is it California?
I think it's California.
California lawmakers are now saying that they are, they are wanting to.
be able to arrest federal agents for coming in and arresting illegal aliens.
When you have one, this is the definition of civil disorder.
Let me just say it that way.
When you have one state government saying if the feds come in and try to enforce the laws
passed by the people
and our local government
or state government is going to arrest the federal
government, you don't have
a civil compact anymore.
You don't. You have an absolute nightmare on your
hands. Yeah, I mean, our
constitutional order, if you will,
the civilization we've lived under for a long time
has a decent share of problems. There's a lot of
stuff that goes wrong with it. But
wait till you see life without it.
You know, if that's the problem with, I think, with the youth, the youth don't, they don't know what truth is anymore.
They don't know who to get the truth from.
They are willing to listen to anybody.
They have no concept of how they are being played, how social media and outside influencers and even inside influencers are using them and using propaganda.
and twisting minds and turning them into revolutionaries.
They have no concept of that.
And too many people have lived so comfortably in this country thinking that it will never end and it can't get worse than this.
My God, people, it can get much worse than this.
Oh, yeah, much worse.
And it is much worse.
Almost everywhere else.
And almost at any other time.
Like it really, we really do lose sight of it.
And it, you know, this is just a recommendation.
But perhaps, just perhaps giving our entire thought process to the Chinese Communist Party wasn't the greatest idea.
You know, through 12 second videos, maybe and tech pros or whoever else you want to blame for it.
The fact that like the, a good chunk of our younger voters, people are voting age,
believe that, you know, standing up to the man equals doing whatever you see on TikTok
is probably a bad trend long term.
Probably not going to work out well for us.
Yeah.
I'm thinking negative.
You're a thinker.
I think it's suboptimal overall.
Yeah.
You're a thinker.
Are you a professor of some sort?
I am.
Your doctorate in thinking?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Professor of reels.
Yeah.
Because that's really, that's deep.
Yeah.
It's deep.
And just a perhaps.
Just throw it out there.
Maybe an experiment, a mass experiment on hundreds of millions of people where we just give away everything.
You know, all of our waking hours to devices that feed us propaganda, much of it controlled by our literal adversary.
Maybe we should rethink it.
Maybe, you know, maybe not the greatest option we could have taken.
I'm sorry, were you talking?
I was just scrolling.
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Let me talk to Dee in Virginia.
Hello, Dee.
Welcome to the Glenback program.
Hi.
Thanks so much for taking my call.
Sure.
I'm really grateful for this.
I've been praying a lot about artificial intelligence and about how it seems to be important
to you.
We may not see things exactly alike at first, but I pray that this will penetrate.
There's something you said.
said that I jumped when I heard it. It was about Sam Altman. Didn't he say that he was referring to
AI as the Sam God? Yeah, he's trying to build God, yes.
Exactly. And you know what? That is a hint that this is in reference to biblical prophecy,
because this is Satan's tool that the Antichrist is going to use to control the end of
rule. Okay. That is a very good possibility. I've talked about that before. I mean, I don't know,
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We went from 2010 when we started this whole thing to 2015. Yeah. And you,
You left in 2015, and I had no idea about the struggles that you were going through and where that would lead you and why you're on the program now.
Your book is Confessions of a Christian Alcoholic.
Tell me the story.
Well, here's the funny thing, Glenn.
I think I didn't realize the struggles that I was having when you and I were working together.
And I think what's ironic, right, is I heard your story.
For how many years, right?
You know, what that looked like and what that did to you and family and Kanye saying,
you got to, something's got to change, right?
Yeah.
And yet, you know, and I think this is the truth about addiction is we can know something
and want to do something and still fall.
Right?
In 2021, I had another book come out, became a publish a book.
He said, you're going to publish a book.
And you kind of get this publish it where you fall into this like lull, right?
Yeah.
And, you know, I kind of joke that it's like, it's like Talladega Knight's like Ricky Bobby.
He's like, what do I do with my hand, you know?
Yeah.
And kind of said, well, thanks, Billy, you know, but I'll be fine, you know.
And sure enough, like, I published that book.
And you just realize you have certain expectations that it's going to do this and that and the other thing.
And it doesn't.
My own business at the time, I lost my biggest client.
And then my son was diagnosed with a tumor in his shin.
He was four years old at the time.
Being benign.
up. And here's what I did, Glenn. I just drinking more up in 2023. And I realized,
I go down to the hotel bar, have a few drinks and appetizers. And she goes going to get drunk,
not to get drunk that night. And yet, by the end of the night,
Elf Beach, Miami, by myself, waiting in the ocean, going to the back. I don't care if you never
drink again. The drinking part, like, that would be easier. You know, like, then actually doing the
soul searching and the, you know, the surgery that it requires. You know, and, um,
It's weird, you think that, I mean, you know, I got up early today and I read good portions of the book, and it's very well done.
And I have to tell you that there's a couple of things that I think we all go through.
First of all, I'm not really an alcoholic.
I'm not an alcoholic.
Because alcoholics, I love the section where you're talking about, you know, what does an alcoholic look like?
Right.
We just have this image in our mind of this is what an alcoholic is like.
and I'm not that, you know, I'm not a whino.
And so you go through that.
You go through, you know, asking yourself and then trying to stop and you can't stop and you really try and you promise yourself every day.
And it gets worse and worse and worse every day where you're like, I, I'm a loser.
I cannot stop myself.
I promised myself I wasn't going to drink today.
I promised myself I was not going to get drunk when I went down to the bar, you know, at the hotel.
And you violated every day.
and your self-esteem just gets getting worse and worse and worse because you can't stop
and you have every intention of stopping, but you'll always find an excuse.
And then when you finally realize you have to, then you don't want to do the work of what's
causing you to drink because you're terrified of it.
You're terrified of looking into it.
And at least I was terrified that that's all that existed in me, that there wasn't actually
anything good in me.
It was just this collection of things that I had gathered my whole life.
Does that make sense to you?
Did you feel that way at all?
Absolutely.
You know,
that's why it's like I would rather,
and this is what I tell people,
Glenn,
and some people don't like it.
But I'm like,
listen,
my goal,
my ultimate goal for people when I'm talking to them,
the ultimate goal for myself is not flourishing life.
That's why I'm like,
man,
I shot for Jesus and I got sobriety for.
own in, right? Okay with programs. I'm all okay with steps and doing what you need to do, right? In
community and talking about it, you need that, right? You do look into yourself, Glenn, and you
see what is truly there, right? There's no way that you can personally fix all that.
No. And not so they're not as fulfilled as they would be if they actually dug in and invited
someone in to fix those. I don't know if you can white knuckle it. I really don't. I mean,
Yeah.
You know, and AA doesn't expect you to white knuckle it.
The first thing is you're not in charge here.
You got to admit that there's something much bigger than you.
Whatever God is to you, there's God.
And you have to surrender to him.
And that, you know, the surrender part is part of it.
But I will tell you that until I got into the waters of baptism,
after all my alcoholism and everything,
and white knuckling it for several years until I got into the water, I could not hold it.
You can't.
You can't carry that burden.
You know, people who, I feel bad for people who don't need the entoment as badly as I did,
because I don't know if you can really truly appreciate it.
It is when you cannot go anymore, when this decision is, I can't live with myself anymore.
It is, it's suicide or something else.
and I've tried everything else, so I'm going to give this a try.
And you truly surrender and accept that forgiveness and then say, I don't want this anymore.
I don't want to think about this anymore.
It's all yours.
Take it.
It's a miracle.
It's a miracle.
I'm not the Christian that became an alcoholic inside of you.
You can love God.
You can love Jesus and want to pursue him and have all that.
I didn't do that fester and that you need to work on.
And that was true for me.
who's like drinking X, Y, Z away, I'm cheating on my wife, whatever.
I'm like, there's still hope for you because there is hope for me.
Yeah, I have to tell you, I think that I feel bad for people who are deep in faith
because I've seen too many say, no, I know who God is and I screwed up and there's no going
back for me.
There's just no going back.
You know, I'm beyond the redemption because I knew everything.
It's not the way God works.
That's your sick head telling you that.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
We have these whole healed parts that we've given over to God, right?
And that's great.
It's like the mental health, right?
We have to realize that, man, we all have these rooms in our soul.
These rooms for some of us, there's like secret passageways, right?
Like there's a bookcase and we're looking at that and we don't realize that there's a door behind there.
and in that door is a bunch of rotten stuff.
And that's what we need to do.
It's amazing, too, that you, for me,
I honestly said my whole life.
My mother kid committed suicide.
I'm 13 years old.
My mom commits suicide.
You know, we were very, very close.
I mean, my whole life changed.
And I said my whole life until I sobered up, I'm fine.
I'm fine.
I'm totally fine with that.
I got it.
I dealt with it.
I didn't deal with it at all.
But I actually believed I was fine because I had created this little, this little bunker inside of me that could keep that sealed.
But that, that, that rot, even though you don't realize it, that that, that, you can't seal that bunker off it.
It's, it's, it's like it has nuclear waste in it.
It seeps into everything.
My wife says, she's a very wise woman.
And she goes, you know what, John?
you have to get to the root.
So that's what I've been doing.
Two and a half years.
Then it's over for two and a half years now.
And I'm still, Glenn, finding rot down there.
Oh, yeah.
I'm like, oh, my gosh, that cellar.
Like, there's some potatoes that were in the corner that are like, look like meat now, you know?
And I'm like, well, all right, here we go.
We're going to dig those out as well.
I'm 30 years.
I'm 30 years into it.
And I'm still finding rocks.
So, I mean, you know, you're, you know, you're still like, wait, this.
rooted. I thought I pulled this out.
It's a never-ending process, but I'm so happy
for you. I'm really, really happy for you
because your life, I mean, you're two years into it.
Let me just tell you, John, it just gets better and better and
better. It really does, and it is so worth the journey. It doesn't
feel like it at first, and I know you, you know it, you
wrote about it. Doesn't feel like it at first, but it is
so worth it. And it happens, it
It is your future should you choose it.
And it's very, very bright.
So very happy for you, John.
You know, you never know when you're telling your story.
This is what I say.
You telling your story, that wasn't if they're finding Jesus, if you will.
Our story is step 19 for me, right?
But I remember those things.
It's possible because I'm sober, but I've gotten the best.
Yes.
Yes.
You can't have best if it's easy.
I don't think.
Yeah.
Jonathan Seidel, the name of the book is Confessions of a Christian Alcoholic.
If you're asking yourself, am I an alcoholic?
Probably are.
If you're asking, you probably have a problem with it at some point.
But again, Christian alcoholics, it's a whole different world because, as he points out really well in the book, it's not what, alcoholics aren't what you think they are.
you know i remember the first aa meeting this this woman who was 80 had a sweater set and a
pearl necklace on and i said i don't know if i'm an alcoholic but but i'm really confused now
because i didn't think alcoholics looked like you and she didn't even turn around and she was just
this beautiful beautiful older woman um just so prim and proper and she just said oh honey we're all
drunks in here and i realized you don't have to look like that you don't have to lose everything you don't
have to, you know, be, you know, a whino in an alley to be an alcoholic. That is a cartoon character
of it. And he points it out really well, really well-written book. Jonathan Seidel, Confessions of a
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So this White House reconstruction thing is just killing me.
I just think it is just hysterical the way the left is just figuring.
Donald Trump's destruction of the White House is now complete.
Yes, and he's moving the grave of Adolf Hitler and going to bury him in the Rose Garden.
Anyway, the White House has responded, and this is hysterical.
I don't know if you can, yeah, good, you have it up on the screen.
If you're watching the Blaze, I'll take you through it on radio, but if you're watching the Blaze, this is fabulous.
The White House at Whitehouse.com has just put together a major.
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2023. Co-cane discovered during the Biden administration. Then 2020-
A picture for that one is fantastic. It's a picture of Hunter Biden in the bathtub.
Yeah, holding his nipples.
And then then 2023 to 24, trans day of visibility.
Oh, gosh.
Yeah.
This picture is not as great.
Then 20.
They got the same pose, though.
It does.
It does.
It does.
100, bud.
And then 2025,
North and South flagpoles are installed.
I mean, it is, the White House, what are they saying there?
What are they saying?
Get your scandals in order.
Yeah.
Let's look at scandals in the White House.
Is it the scandal that I redid the Rose Garden or that I'm tearing this down that was built a hundred years ago and I'm going to now replace it with a ballroom and we're paying for it entirely with private money, no tax dollars?
You didn't care about the cocaine in the White House or the sperm room in the Oval Office.
office.
I mean, I'm sorry.
You thought for a while and that's
where we landed.
I was thinking much worse than that.
It was a lot worse than that.
Good.
I'm good.
You're so proficient and edited yourself.
I am.
That you did get there.
Very good.
Very good.
What I mean, it's amazing.
I just love this White House
because they're willing to do it.
Yeah, they don't care.
They don't care.
They're just like, let's look at the big scandals here of the renovations.
I saw someone asking.
issue. Like, give me one argument as to how you can possibly be okay with this. I don't know.
It seems like it'll be nice and useful. That's kind of my argument. I think it'll be really useful
for future presidents to be able to have something on campus. And he's not big events.
He's not going to have it. So he won't be using it. So it's not for him. It's for the country.
Seems it'll be really nice and probably pretty useful. And it's free. Yeah. And it's free. Let me say it
again. It's free. This is Glenn Beck.
And by the way, didn't you just spend $300 million on a weekend for no kings?
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Glenn Beck program.
Tomorrow I'm going to be at Dickies Arena with Megan Kelly.
Megan Kelly is
is doing her
traveling stage show
I don't even know
what that's what you would call it
That's exactly what she calls
The Megan Kelly
Traveling Stage show
Whatever it is
Experience
The Megan Kelly experience
That's gonna be a great tour
Yeah it's gonna be a great tour
She's got a lot of great people
And then she has me
In Fort Worth
And I can't wait to go
Can't wait to go
Dickies Arena
Yeah Dickies Arena
Bring your family
Bring your friends
It's gonna be a good night
making a pretty big major announcement tomorrow night.
And also I'm going into the vault today to see what I'm going to bring for history.
Teach something for history.
I think I know what I want to share with Megan and you tomorrow night.
Dickies Arena get your tickets at Megan Kelly.com.
Megan Kelly.com.
Very cool.
Now, you, as you mentioned, do have a vault filled with all sorts of historical documents, items from our history.
And I think this makes you a little overqualified to answer the new citizenship test that is being...
Do we have a new citizenship test?
Yeah, it's the new citizenship test.
Oh, boy.
You imagine what it was under Biden?
No.
How much do you hate America on a scale from 1 to 10?
Are you supposed to be here?
If you click, no, you're in.
The federal government rolled out a longer, harder exam this month for aspiring Americans.
test your knowledge with the quiz.
Washington Post has this.
If you don't want to take it a lot.
If you're by yourself, you want to check these off, see how many you can get.
You want to take this, Glenn?
No.
You don't?
I think you'll be, you should be able to do these.
Go ahead.
Like the first one.
I hate these because you're walking into you're like, oh, there's going to be something that's going to make me look really stupid.
All right, go ahead.
The first one, if you get this wrong, you.
Now, the normal part, I think an average person, just walking around.
and I'm thinking about their lives
could easily get something like this wrong.
You should not get this one wrong.
Who wrote the Declaration of Independence?
Is it?
Benjamin Franklin.
John Adams.
They give you,
it's multiple choice.
Multiple choice.
Thomas Jefferson or George Washington.
Thomas Jefferson.
You are going to put that in there and see if it's right.
Oh, wow, it's right.
It's correct.
I will say,
you be,
like you have a copy of the original draft
the Declaration of Independence. I've seen you give
20 speeches based on it
and all the things that it says, it's very
focused on Thomas Jefferson and your
analysis of his thought process in that moment.
Of course you get that right. But I think
an average person to see
some famous founders. Give me the names again.
Give me the names again. Benjamin Franklin's
writing is on the original draft.
John Adams. That's right. John Adams,
his writing is on the original draft.
So you could say, because it was a committee of five,
but the three of them really were
instrumental in that. So
if you would have given me only three choices,
I would have had a hard time.
I would have said Thomas Jefferson,
but you could also say in the fourth choice,
all of the above.
Right.
George Washington.
George Washington was not.
You know.
And Selena Gomez, was she?
Oh, she was, yeah.
Okay.
She was a big factor.
Yeah.
Name a power that is only for the federal government.
A.
Oh, thank God.
It's just multiple choices.
Thank God.
A, print paper money.
Yes.
B, declare war.
Yes.
C, make treaties.
D.
All of the above.
Got to be.
Yes.
Correct.
That is correct.
You're two for two, Glenn.
Okay.
What may I let you in?
We might let you into this country.
Good.
What amendment says all persons born or naturalized in the United States are, and subject
to the jurisdiction thereof are U.S. citizens.
What a fascinating one for them to stick in here.
You know this.
I knew this one.
You should know this one.
give me their choices
A second amendment
No
B 6th amendment
No
C 12th amendment
D 14th amendment
I want to say the 14th
but it could be the
14th
14th amendment final answer
Yes
Do you want to phone a friend
Uh no because I'd call you
And you are not my friend
14th amendment is correct
Okay and that's one of course interesting
because they are specifically, the Trump administration,
is pushing for a particular interpretation of that amendment,
which includes the phrase they often lead off in the jurisdiction thereof.
Okay, question number four.
See, that's how you, though, that's the multiple choice.
That's how, I knew it was the 14th Amendment,
but when you have the choices, you're like,
I don't know what the 12th.
It's 14, 14, 14.
Always go with your first guess.
Not that that was a guess.
No, no.
All right, go ahead.
The American Revolution had many important.
important events.
Name one.
Okay.
Okay.
A, the Battle of Gettysburg.
B.
No.
Battle of the Bulge.
No.
The Battle of Yorktown.
Yes.
D.
The Battle of Plattsburgh.
No.
So it's, let's see.
Yorktown.
C. Yorktown is correct.
Correct.
Good job with that.
You didn't think Battle of the Bulge?
I didn't think so.
And I don't want to even think about that one on where that would lead some people to
go.
Let's leave that.
You know what?
Let me give you a safer place.
Lizzo.
There you go.
Why were the Federalist papers important?
Is it A, they supported passing the Constitution?
B, they stoked tensions leading to the Civil War.
C, they inspired Americans to break from the British Crown,
or D, they inspired the Declaration.
of independence.
A.
Constitution.
Correct.
Yes, that is correct.
Although, like, you know.
I'd be a wealthy man if this were like on, you know, who wants to be a millionaire.
Yeah, just gets you nothing.
Actually, all it does is get you entry into a country that will tax you into oblivion.
Okay, next up.
Who wants to be a millionaire and is going to lose it all?
Six.
James Madison is famous for many things.
Name one.
He was the first.
Foot fungus.
That's right.
That's E.
James Madison, right?
James Madison, right?
James Madison.
First Secretary of State is A.
B, help draft the Declaration of Independence.
C.
Founded the University of Virginia.
D.
President during the War of 1812.
Dolly Madison saved the painting of George Washington, so it would be War of 1812.
President is War of 1812.
Correct.
The new test spot is Madison, fourth president, father of the Constitution for the first time.
Another new questions similarly asked about how fellow founding father and federalist papers co-writer Alexander Hamilton.
So there you go.
What, when did all women get the right to vote?
Wait, what?
When, this is a new news to a lot of people.
Hold it just a second.
Now, we're talking about men who are saying they're women too.
They get to vote as well.
Right, yeah.
When did all women get the right to vote?
1919, 1920, 1925, 1931.
This is a trick question.
no you actually can vote glennett is a trick question because i think the vote happened in
1990 or at least it started because i remember 1919 but i think it it finalized in 1920
i would have guessed 1920 but i will be honest with you total guess this is the type of thing like
what does this have to do with citizenship like this isn't a question that should be on here
I'm not going to critique it.
I'm not learning.
The date between 1919 and 1931, who cares?
Like, you always talk about, like, why am I teaching dates?
You always talk about this.
Yeah.
You know, why are dates the important thing?
It's the story.
It's what's behind the story.
True.
The range of dates in a 12-year period to me makes no difference.
You guess 1920, which was actually what I was going to guess, too.
I have no idea if it's right.
It is.
It is right.
In 1920, I think the 19, I think 1919 is when the people's vote.
happened and then it had to go through ratification or something.
Right.
So that had to be over a period of longer than just 1920.
I mean, no, 1919, I think.
Yeah.
19, 19, 1920.
That's really a tough one.
Why do the United States enter the Persian Gulf War?
Oil.
That is actually answer B.
You got to secure oil in Kuwait.
Okay.
A is to defend the U.S. from Iraqi threats.
No.
C, to force the Iraqi military from Kuwait.
Yes.
D to defeat Saddam Hussein.
C.
C is correct.
Though, of course, there were parts of some of those things that were also, I would say elements in that decision.
When did you start hating America still?
I love this country, Glenn.
I've gotten them all right so far.
Even the one I totally guessed that of 1920 I got right.
Okay.
Name one example of an American innovation.
A, the light bulb.
B.
The stethoscope.
C.
No idea.
The computer.
D.
The electromagnet.
magnet.
I have a problem with these.
Okay.
Because the light bulb, as we know it, was American.
But before that, uh, was France, maybe.
But I think a light bulb as we know it was Edison.
What was the next one?
The stethoscope.
No idea where that came from.
Right.
Don't really care.
The computer.
Turing.
That's England.
Okay.
The Electromagn
I think that's English,
but I think that was a socialist.
That's why I think it was English,
because I think it was an English socialist
that came up with that,
and I've always wondered,
why didn't you just give that all away?
Mr. Socials,
why do you know?
You'd have to go the light pole.
Yeah, that's what would be my guess of these as well.
It is correct.
But I mean, like the computer,
like that is always one that they,
you can go to Turing, of course,
but like that,
you know,
that wasn't what we think of as a computer,
right?
Like it was,
you know,
it was the basis.
So what phrase the,
question again. Name one example of an American
innovation. We certainly have innovated
it with the computer. Yeah, we did, but we didn't
but it wasn't the
I think I mean, you'll have to look it up. I think
I think touring was the one who first
kind of came up with the idea of what we think of now as the
modern. The basis, right. But they talk about this with the
innovation of the internet, trying to
calculate who actually started that.
A lot of people like, oh, the U.S. government started it.
But actually a guy who was an employee for the U.S.
government had the idea before he was in the U.S. government. Actually, he was employed largely because
of an idea that he had before he was in the government. He was hired by the government for that
purpose. So like, I don't know. There's a great book called How Innovation Works, which is Matt Ridley
that goes through. It has a great section on the light bulb and all a lot of these things.
Worth your time if you feel if you're interested in such things. Okay, last one. What is
Memorial Day? Is it a holiday to honor military?
history. Is it a holiday to honor soldiers who died in military service? Is it a holiday to mark the
beginning of summer? Or is it a holiday to honor veterans? It's to honor those who gave their lives.
It's a tricky question because a lot of people think veterans, but it's those who gave their lives.
The way you easily remember that is, of course, there's Veterans Day. Right. So there is a memorial for
people who die. So, of course, the answer is it marks the beginning of
of summer.
Yes.
No, it is a,
honor soldiers who died in the military service.
So you had 10 of 10 there, Glenn.
Okay.
So if I,
if I pass now,
do I have to marry my brother?
Yes.
It's the Elon Omar amendment of the Constitution.
That should be on there.
You can't marry your brother in this country.
That's question 11.
By the way,
you only have to get 12 of 20.
And we only give you 10 questions.
But in the real,
the real test is 20 questions.
you have to get 12 of them correct.
Oh, come on.
60%.
60%.
That's, that's, that's, that's, that's an abomination.
What is the average American person?
Not the average American in this audience.
What is the average American person?
Out of 20 questions, how many do they get rid of that?
Okay, 60% is high.
I'm thinking about that.
I'm like two out of the 10, maybe two.
That's really bad.
All right.
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Glenn Beck is back after this. I cannot believe this. Latisha James right now is standing in
front of a courthouse in New York because she's just pleaded not guilty and received a trial
date of January 2026
and she's actually saying
this justice system
has been weaponized.
Is she bragging about when
she did it? That is absolutely
incredible to me. Her whole
campaign was
hire me, I'll find the crime
and put him in jail. I mean, I believe
her campaign slogan was
elect me and I will weaponize
the justice department of the state
against the people you don't like.
I mean, she literally,
legitimately said I'll get Trump.
I'll get Trump. One way or another. I'm going to get Trump. I'm going to get Trump.
And she tried and failed. And it's now reaping the fruits of that labor. Yeah. If you will.
And she's actually, I mean, oh, doesn't it hurt your heart and your head just the hypocrisy every day?
It just is like, oh, wow, that hurts. That hurts. I don't know how you live like that.
We've all told a lie at some point in our lives. And then you're in the middle of that.
lie, you have that tinge of like, gosh, this feels wrong.
What am I doing?
I shouldn't say it this way.
Whatever that thing is.
She doesn't have that tinge.
Doesn't have it at all.
No, none.
She also has the most annoying speaking style of anyone in public life.
Jasmine Crockett.
You know, Jasmine Crockett's got some, at least she's got some spunk.
It feels like it's off the top of her head.
You know, she kind of just like lets it fly.
I mean, she's an idiot.
Don't get me wrong.
Oh, right.
Okay.
But like, Letitia James has this really methodical, like,
almost like a bad actress in a like city play, you know, where she's trying to be overly dramatic.
She stops and starts a lot in the same patterns.
Overly dramatic.
Yeah.
You know, she was just a rain and she came out and she said, quote, I shall not be deterred.
Oh, Lady Macbeth, thanks for showing up.
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