The Glenn Beck Program - The Obamagate Crimes | Guests: Megyn Kelly & Sharyl Attkisson | 5/12/20

Episode Date: May 12, 2020

Acting Director of National Intelligence Richard Grenell declassified the names of the Obama officials who “unmasked” Michael Flynn. What are the actual crimes of Obamagate? Elon Musk is reopening... his Tesla plant, even if it means jail. Investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson joins with her new definitive list of media mistakes in the Trump era and why she believes Flynn was targeted by the FBI: He knew where the “bodies” were buried. The media called Trump a racist for telling a Chinese reporter to “ask China” about coronavirus failures, but NY Gov. Cuomo got away with calling COVID-19 a “European virus.” Journalist Megyn Kelly joins to dive into her Tara Reade interview, Obamagate, and how dishonest the media has become. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, America, and welcome to Tuesday. We've got a great show. I don't know where we start. The Michigan sheriffs and the Michigan judge that said, yeah, you know, the 77-year-old barber? Nah, we're not going to arrest him. I don't care what the governor says. Oh, that's good, Eaton.
Starting point is 00:00:18 How about Elon Musk saying, F you, California, I'm opening up. Come arrest me. Will they arrest him today? not. Cheryl Atkinson has a list of all of the lies that the media has told, and it's fantastic, especially on the day that we have new names being released. We could see indictments of Clapper, of Brennan, of Samantha Power, possibly Joe Biden and Barack Obama.
Starting point is 00:00:54 It's an amazing Obamagate scandal that is going on. We have that. Oh, and how can we forget? Bible scholars are now saying the fourth horseman is finally saddled up and riding. So Jesus is coming soon. Where do we begin? We'll decide in 60 seconds. This is the Glenn Beck program.
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Starting point is 00:02:58 We have Megan Kelly coming up today. She's going to be with us for a full hour. We might have either Cheryl Hackinson or Tim Poole. on today to talk about the press and the the mayhem with the CBS reporter yesterday. Oh, that was just so satisfying. But we also have the declassified list of Obama officials that are, that could go to jail, should go to jail. I mean, I think it's like a five-year sentence for unmasking General Flynn.
Starting point is 00:03:32 It's fantastic. Where do we start? Where do we start? Well, I mean, it's, it's. that last one's pretty pretty tempting. I mean, a whole... Yeah, it is. I'm curious because I, you know, I'm not a believer that this stuff ever happens, right?
Starting point is 00:03:47 It doesn't feel like it ever happens. Like, we always talk about these, like, big charges that are coming down. And, you know, when it comes to these big powerful people in Washington, is it ever going to really occur? I suppose if anyone's going to do it, it's going to be Donald Trump. Yes. So, yeah, let's start there. And he has reason to.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Yeah. Really? Now, I mean, because, you know, we could all die before. we finish that story. It's like when you go to a restaurant. Start with dessert. You could die before the meal gets here. Start with dessert.
Starting point is 00:04:16 It's fair, although it doesn't necessarily cleanse your palate. All right. If you end an appetizer, it doesn't necessarily cleanse the palate that well. Well, I usually have, ah, I made it to dessert. So I'll have a second dessert.
Starting point is 00:04:31 If all you eat is dessert, then you're always living life to the fullest. Exactly right, Stu. Finally, someone who understands me. I married. I married the wrong person. Acting director of the national intelligence, Richard Grinnell, has declassified a list of Obama administration officials involved in the illegal unmasking of General Michael Flynn in wiretapping.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Now, what's interesting is we almost had Grinnell on. Do you remember? We had Grinnell on because we knew he knew something. We knew he knew something. And it was during the Biden thing. And at the last minute, we couldn't get the satellite up or whatever it was because he was over in Germany. Well, Attorney General William Barr is now in possession of the list and has the authority to make the document public, according to ABC News. Grinnell visited the Justice Department last week delivering the list of Obama administration officials before AG Barr announced the dropping of the DOJ case against Flynn.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Flynn pleaded guilty to one count of lying to FBI investigators about con. contacts with former ambassador of Russia. But he withdrew his plea when the legal team found evidence of potential prosecutorial and investigative abuses. So here's what happened. They knew back in late 2016 in December that the FBI had nothing on Flynn. And then there was a meeting at the White House. And at this meeting was everybody, including Barack Obama.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And it's now been revealed that Barack Obama knew about everything. Now, this is new because Clapper had testified, uh, no, I didn't brief him. Nobody, the president wasn't involved. He didn't know. But now we know that, yes, indeed he did. And I'm trying to remember who was there at the meeting. It was somebody big who was surprised that Obama knew about all. of this. And so they, they knew that the FBI was closing the case and Obama said, no, you don't
Starting point is 00:06:44 want to do that. You want to keep this open. You want to just keep, you just want to keep this open. And so they kept it open and they were looking to take down General Flynn one way or another. This is why that FBI agent wrote and said, I'm confused here. Are we trying to find a crime or are we trying to get him to lie so we can force him out? So that's why that is important now. So it is, they were trying to get him on a Logan Act violation. Now, the Logan Act is from like the 1700s, okay, when we had actual foreign people going over to distant lands that may have had some sort of,
Starting point is 00:07:36 of allegiance to those lands. And they were representing themselves as able to talk for the United States of America. And Washington wanted to make sure that nobody was doing that. You don't speak for America. We have a Secretary of State that speaks for America. Nobody has ever been prosecuted for this, including Ted Kennedy, who went over to Russia at the height of the Cold War and was telling them what we were doing. not to worry about it.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I don't know. We're all bluster. Okay. He went over and was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, was, being abetting and abetting and providing comfort to our sworn enemy, Russia. Never. Nobody's ever been prosecuted with this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:24 It's old timey law. But that's what the FBI wanted. So now it looks like we have, uh, we have, uh, we have these decouly. declassified names. It's Comey. Clapper. Who else here? Comey Clapper.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I don't have the list in front of me. And we don't know who's on the official list. These are just, this is just speculation. Obama and Biden could be on this. And I will tell you that, you know there's a there's a there's a there's a reason that that uh donald trump came out yesterday and really had at it here's here he is on obamagate crime listen to this audio from yesterday trump accusing obama of obamagate what crime exactly are you accusing president
Starting point is 00:09:25 obama of committing and do you believe the justice department should prosecute him uh obamagate it's been going on for a long time it's been going on for a long time it's been going on from before I even got elected, and it's a disgrace that it happened, and if you look at what's gone on, and if you look at now, all of this information that's being released, and from what I understand, that's only the beginning. Some terrible things happened, and it should never be allowed to happen on our country again.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And you'll be seeing what's going on over the next, over the coming weeks, and I wish you'd write honestly about it, but unfortunately, you choose not to do so. Yeah, John, please. What is the crime exactly that you're accusing him about? You know what the crime is. The crime is very obvious to end. everybody. All you have to do is read the newspapers except yours.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Okay, so here's the crime. Obama had unexpectedly intimate knowledge about the details of Flynn's phone calls with the Russian ambassador. The FBI acknowledged at the time these were not criminal or even improper. But the problem was, is the president has said that, he didn't know about it, wasn't involved in any of this. In fact, there was testimony from Clapper saying he was under oath in Congress and he said, did the president, did you brief the president, did the president know about this? And he said, no. So now he's committed perjury under oath in Congress. Now here's the real problem. Obama.
Starting point is 00:11:07 has said this is a problem that we're not prosecuting Flynn because he said the charges against Flynn were perjury and he said this is something that we is is hurting the rule of law in America. Quote, the fact there is no precedent that anyone can find for someone who is, has been charged with perjury, just getting off Scott Free. Yeah, I would say that would be Bill Clinton. But why stop there? Obama said, that's the kind of stuff where you begin to get worried that basic, not just institutional norms, but our basic understanding of the rule of law is at risk.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yes, we said that about Bill Clinton. And everyone said, well, yeah, but it was only a personal lie. It was a lie to protect his marriage. Okay. Well, Flynn, he lied. We know that he lied. The reason why he's not being nailed for it is because of the rule of law. There wasn't an investigation that should have been going on.
Starting point is 00:12:27 You can't just, an FBI agent can't just walk into your house and you're talking to him and you say, you know what? I really, I really think that you're a wonderful individual. And he says, you're lying to me. That's perjury. No. If he was doing an investigation and that investigation had a warrant and was authorized and it was a legitimate investigation, then you could get him for perjury.
Starting point is 00:12:56 But because this wasn't a legitimate investigation, this was a setup, he can now say, no, I lied to you, but you can't prosecute me. It's just like Miranda writes. If you don't read somebody their rights, you can't prosecute them. You can't use the things that they said because you didn't tell them their rights. That is all about due process and the rule of law. What's Clapper's excuse? Clapper was covering for Barack Obama while under oath about an elite
Starting point is 00:13:32 legal investigation. There's nowhere to go there. So if Barack Obama cares so much about perjury, he is throwing Clapper under the bus. And there's, it couldn't happen to a nicer person. We'll get, we'll get back to this and so much more. Coming up in just a second, let me stop for one minute. Glenn, back. American financing and MLSS 182334. you. NMLS Consumeraccess.org. All right. So I don't know what you're doing with your finances and your housing expenses and everything
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Starting point is 00:15:53 Here's what he said yesterday. I made a lot of mistakes in life, relying on briefings and not insisting all the documents. It took me about three weeks. I went over the Department of Justice. I sat there for four hours. That's when I saw that Peter Strach actually initiated and approved crossfire hurricane.
Starting point is 00:16:11 That's when I saw the exculpatory information on George Papadopoulos, that's when I saw for the very first time that it was the Trump campaign mentioned in that predicate document. They've been telling us all along, Trump's not the target, the campaign's not the target. So yes, my mistake was relying on the word of the FBI and the DOJ and not insisting all the documents. Luckily, it took me about three weeks to correct that mistake. So here's the question. America really is at a crossroads right now. Are we going to listen to the people that we know have been lying to us, the media. I mean, the media now has, even with the left, the media now has a lower score, I think,
Starting point is 00:16:53 than cockroaches, don't they? On America's favorite things or most trusted things, I believe are higher on the list than the media. They have the lowest score they've ever had. And it's not just coming from one side. Now, one side believes them more than the other, but we have to ask ourselves now if we're being honest, what do we do? Do we continue to accept what they say is truth or not?
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Starting point is 00:19:17 Did you see yesterday that 2,000 FBI, former FBI officials came out against Attorney General Barr on this? I mean, I can't believe it. I just don't know what's happening. How can 2,000 agents come out, A, who organized that, but where are the other agents that are supporting the rule of law. Well, there's a lot of agents, right? And this becomes a political thing.
Starting point is 00:19:44 You know, I know. If you don't like the administration, it shouldn't be. It usually isn't. I mean, there also is an element here of, you know, when you're talking about people like Comey, for example, you're talking about going out of, after one of their own. And that's not always looked upon so positively by institutions.
Starting point is 00:20:02 So that could be also an element at play. Comey has done more to damage the regular FBI agent than any person other than maybe Hoover in the history of the FBI. I mean, he's taken people who believed and supported the FBI in almost every, on everything, and has taken those people and made them question at best how they feel about the FBI. It's pretty remarkable, the damage that has been. done there. All right. Coming up in just a second, we've got to talk about Elon Musk. Also, Megan Kelly will be joining us. She's going to talk about her interview with Tara Reid and also the media. What is happening with the media today? How do we trust anything? That's all coming up today on the
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Starting point is 00:22:43 I love him. Now, remember, Elon Musk is a global warming guy. I mean, that's why he's, that's why he's planning on going to Mars because he's so convinced about global warming. Okay, so he's not exactly a conservative, but he's, he is great. I just love him. He's an entrepreneur. He is, he's Tony Stark. Let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:23:05 He is living the life of Tony Stark. And using his money in all the ways that you would hope to use your money if you were really. really rich and a genius. Well, he is in an argument now with California. And California has said you can't open your factory until when, what are they saying the 20th or something like that? And he says, I'm opening it up. I'm opening it up today.
Starting point is 00:23:37 This is today. And if you want to arrest me, go ahead. I'll be on the line. So now California is really, really pissed at him because he's defying their orders. And he says, I don't get authority from you. Some little coronavirus commission. Nobody elected you. No.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I'm running my company. And so he's opening up the doors today. Apparently, it has been crowded for the last few days as they started to come back online. And he's threatening to move to. Texas or Nevada, which, I mean, you can move to Nevada, but you will be welcomed here in Texas, Mr. Musk. Yeah, I understand that Newsom kind of gave him the go-ahead, and then it was some non-elected county official that said, no, you're not going, you're not restarting that. He's like, who are you? No, I'm going to restart it.
Starting point is 00:24:37 So I think good for him. It's unconstitutional. I hope they arrest him. I hope they do. They won't. I hope they do. Because he has the money to make it into. He's not going to shut up.
Starting point is 00:24:54 And he's not going to take it. You know what else is kind of cool about Elon Musk is he's the only billionaire hobo I know of. He says he's going to be without a house. He's getting rid of all of his possessions. He's supposedly incredibly cash poor. He's just a billionaire on paper. I mean, he doesn't have. apparently a lot of cash flow.
Starting point is 00:25:14 At least that's what they say. And that's what he has said in the past. So it's kind of interesting to see the way he operates. He talks down his own stock. He talks about not having any possessions ever. He's a really interesting guy. Interesting cash. I love him.
Starting point is 00:25:31 If there was anybody I could interview today, my dream interview probably would be Elon Musk. I find him one of the most fascinating. He's kind of a, he's a Nikolai Tesla of our era. And I think misunderstood and maybe crazy. I don't know. I don't think so, but maybe crazy. And I love that about him.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And he embodies the American entrepreneurial spirit. He is an Nikolai Tesla in all the ways that, you know, on all the things that implies. And maybe even the crazy part. But I hope they arrest him because he won't sit down. He will not sit down. It's fun, too, because the left now hates him, just for the reasons we've been talking about, that he insists on opening his factory again.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I can't take their zero tolerance policy. Yeah. You disagree with one thing on the left, and you're out. Yeah, oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Especially, this one's really interesting to me because he seems to be, you know, he's against the lockdowns, right?
Starting point is 00:26:39 And the president is still, you know, he is obviously called for six weeks of lockdown. And he said he's been defending it on Twitter recently that it was the right policy to do. And yet now opposition to Trump is unacceptable to the left, which is a fascinating development, right? But it is. Wait a minute. This isn't this, no, I hate this argument. I heard this on Fox News of all. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I didn't mean to offend you. Geez, gosh. Well, you did. You did. I'm a little like Elon Musk. I may be crazy. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Donald Trump, yes, he had the six-week lockdown. But all of the rest of this stuff is happening because of the states. Donald Trump is not responsible for all of this stuff now. All of these lockdowns are being run by the states, not the federal government. Right. I'm just saying Trump agreed with the policy for six weeks, right? He's now trying to get people to open up. And he's, and he's, and he's, saying, and he's, by the way, even after the lockdown expired, is it was criticizing the Georgia governor for doing too much too fast. So, I mean, I don't think Trump is in a situation where he has been advocating this, you know, the media tries to make him out to be this crazy radical character where he's just like, everyone go out and sneeze on each other.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Like, that's not what he's done at all. There's no evidence of that whatsoever. And so, you know, totally reasonable. And what, and what, uh, Musk is doing here. is he's been saying like, you know, free America, open it up, blah, blah, blah. And like that is in opposition to what Donald Trump is saying, which usually immediately guarantees you're on the right side of the left. Because whatever that Trump says, if you're on the left, you have to disagree with it.
Starting point is 00:28:27 What is funny is they just are reading into his mindset and saying, well, he doesn't actually believe it. He doesn't actually believe in a lockdown the entire time. No, but he's actually come out and said that this is fascistic. what's happening is fascistic. So he's not, I don't think he's, yeah, I don't think he's meaning that about Donald Trump, per se. He would say he's meaning about lockdowns, right? Now, his immediate concern is Newsom, who's gone further than Trump.
Starting point is 00:28:52 But I mean, I don't think the difference, which I don't think the space between Trump and Newsom is fascism. They both have said like, hey, this is a, this is a big time. We need to close down the economy. You know, like, I think just for whatever reason, because Trump's, at times rhetoric says, hey, we're, you know, we want to open this up and we want to get out there. When we're going to get out there by Easter. But then he himself had the lockdown several weeks past Easter, right?
Starting point is 00:29:16 Like, he's looking at this, I think, and trying to judge it with the best, put in scientific, you know, knowledge that's coming into him. And Musk is, uh, is saying it's time. I think it is time. This is Texas. We've started to open it up and I think we've done it in a smart line. Do you wear masks outside? Was that?
Starting point is 00:29:33 You wear masks outside? No. You wearing masks outside? Outside? No. I don't wear them outside. Do you do where I'm into a store? I'm into a store.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Oh, do you? Yeah, sometimes. You know, I mean, it depends on the situation. I feel like it's interesting because I've been to one store with 100% mask usage. Really? Whole Foods. It's the only place I've been into that has worn out. Of course, all the good ones people.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Right. And that's probably the absolute safest place to not wear a mask because everyone else is wearing a mask. Yep. If I go, there's some stores where no one's wearing them. And that's actually the place you probably should wear them, which is kind of counterintuitive. Did you guys see the video of the real estate agent in Miami, whose client apparently went against her better judgment, the realtor's better judgment,
Starting point is 00:30:18 and didn't wear a mask or gloves to an appointment? Watch this. You just a tad upset about it. Video because I'm a little f***ed off of the simple fact that people around this town don't wear the masks, don't wear their gloves. I just finished showing a house right now. The lady was pissed off because I asked her to wear a mask. Like seriously, woman?
Starting point is 00:30:39 And then she's coughing two seconds later. Like it's no big deal. We're in this shit because of f***es like that. Because people out there on their boats, doing all their bullseye partying. No, I'm not jealous. No, I'm not. Because you know what?
Starting point is 00:30:53 I have a f***ing yacht. I could go out with my friends and party, but there's a time and place for everything. And now is not the time in place. Now is the time in place to be taking care of yourselves and the people around you. There are people dying. There are people in hospitals risking their lives because of my fucking. like you who want to wear your mask, who don't wear your gloves, who don't wear practice social distancing. There's somebody who bought in complete town, but the truth is, you know what, there's a time and place for partying and everything.
Starting point is 00:31:17 It was not the time to party. This is what? Oh, wow. Only in Miami. Only in day. Only in Florida. Let me do it for a video for a being for a mask. Wear your gloves.
Starting point is 00:31:29 But we're going to be quarantined all the way to September. And we may be spending New Year's in our house because of you f***es out there who don't wear your mask. And you know what? I give a fucking. God, crap. You guys get pissed out of me, don't like me, and you know what? You delete me off your social media.
Starting point is 00:31:45 You'll probably be doing me a favor. So I don't need f***es like you. Wear your fucking mask. Wear your gloves. So we can get the fuck out of our house, you dumb fucking. Wow. Here's what I would suggest.
Starting point is 00:31:58 You shouldn't drive while... Thank you. While recording. She's got one hand. You can see it in her glasses. She's got one hand on the steering wheel. And the other. one on her phone. Why did you know
Starting point is 00:32:10 it's effing people like you that are killing people on the roadways? I really thought at the end of she was going to crash into something at the end of that video. I thought that's what I was waiting for. It would have been great. You know, I'd have been great. I guess well, I would have been appropriate.
Starting point is 00:32:25 You know, I find this also in intriguing as she is yelling about this. I'm guessing she didn't sell the house. I'm guessing she left the house. I'd say that's a good guess. Yeah, yeah. And I wonder if the woman would have said,
Starting point is 00:32:42 okay, let's sign a contract. I wonder if that rant would have happened. No way. Probably not. No way. And the other thing is the glove situation, when you go into the store, wearing gloves, and then you touch something,
Starting point is 00:32:56 you're already, you're contaminated right there. You need to change the gloves after you touch anything. So if you have enough glove changes with you to change them out after every single touch. Like you're touching a cereal box that has been handled by 40 other people. Right. And the gloves thing isn't even science, right?
Starting point is 00:33:17 It's not. No. You know, it's much better to actually have touched something bad and then wash your hands than to have it on your gloves. Then you take it off. A lot of people would touch whatever is on the outside of their gloves if they don't take it off properly. And then what, use that as an excuse to not wash their hands. Well, you should wash your hands after that anyway.
Starting point is 00:33:33 You know, the mask thing, I think, you know, the science on that is, you know, look, there's a good, they say about 70 to 80% drop on how many droplets could get through if someone sneezes in your face, basically. Which is, look, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it helps. Very infrequently. But, I mean, it only takes once. As you, right, very recently found out.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I did for my grandson who sneezed directly in my face. And, uh, yes, I did get sick. It's better than having, it's better than having your daughter is better than having your daughter vomit in your mouth. Oh, yes. That's nasty. That sounds worse. It was not good.
Starting point is 00:34:08 No mask is helping you from that, I will say. Yeah. No, Daddy, I have a tummy ache. Well, what does it feel? It was not good. It was not good. I mean, as far as I know, Glenn, you haven't been out at all. So you probably don't have to worry about masks because you haven't gone out to dinner or anything.
Starting point is 00:34:26 You haven't taken advantage of any of our Texas freedoms yet. I'm really liking staying at home. I'm really loving it. There is a chance. If there wasn't a camera in. my house that I had to show up every day. I might look like Howard Hughes at this point. I may have just a long beard and really long creepy fingernails and be like, I'm just peeing in bottles now and leaving them outside of the door. It's a very detractive image. Yes, I know it is. I'm actually
Starting point is 00:34:56 very, I'm enjoying it. And I can't take the mask thing because, I mean, I'll wear the mask if, you know, if we have to wear the mask, I'll wear the mask. But it's ridiculous. because nobody knows what they're doing. Did you see, I saw somebody yesterday. Where was it on TV? They were wearing the mask and they were talking, but they had the mask just over their mouth, not over their nose.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And I'm like, that's not doing you. And you know what I love is when they take their glove hand and they pull down the mask so they can talk to you. Well, you've just coveted your gloves and your mask. Right. So why do you have them on? No, my favorite are the people like at Home Depot that are wearing gloves and their gloves are like black from wearing them all day.
Starting point is 00:35:44 You're just keeping it around longer. I don't know. The glove thing makes no sense. You can't wash your hand. You can't wash the outside of the gloves off. So the stuff that you pick up stays there forever. If you have just your hands and you touch something that's bad, wash your hands.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Hopefully you're frequently washing your hands and it gets removed every so often. Right. It doesn't happen with gloves. That's true. The vast thing at least makes sense, I think. You know, if you can obviously screw up. Yeah, the best thing makes sense. But the gloves make no sense.
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Starting point is 00:38:06 So Cheryl Atkinson has come up with a definitive list of the media mistakes in the Trump era. And she goes all the way, you know, all the way back to November 2016. And what's interesting to me is she is the stuff that we are now finding out that we're out and out lies or planted by members of the Obama team with certain reports. reporters. So we have Cheryl Atkinson coming on in just a second. She can explain what's going on and give us a sense on, you know, she's still in Washington. So does she have a sense that this is actually going to lead to something? Or is this just going to be an exercise in futility where we are arguing about this and then nothing happens? So we have Cheryl Rocketson coming on in just a minute. Also, Megan Kelly. We have her coming up on the third hour.
Starting point is 00:39:18 She's going to talk about the Tara Reid interview, which I think was excellent. She asked every question that I thought needed to be asked and found some real gems in there. We're going to talk to her about that and the state of the media coming up. You're listening to Glenn. You've heard me talk about my Tukovas boots and how much I love them and what a great company they come from. It's a small business that's doing things the right way down here in Texas. Well, given the challenges that we're going through as a country, Tukovas has asked me to speak about something else that comes to mind every time I put on my Tukovas boots, the cowboy. Now, you know, I'm not a working cowboy, but I know some of those guys,
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Starting point is 00:42:14 We're now rewriting history in real time. Cuomo came out yesterday and talked about this European virus. European virus. What are you talking about? The coronavirus. Now it's European. And nobody says anything about it. That's totally cool.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Meanwhile, the president is almost attacked by a CBS reporter. called racist because he said, Ask China. Ask China about these questions. Why are you asking it? You racist. Oh my gosh, I can't take it. Meanwhile, there are some big things that are happening.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Looks like Obamagate is a real thing. That members of the Obama administration, as high up as the president, President Obama, knew this investigation was bogus and pretty much everything we, we've gone through in the last four years with the media and this Russia Gate has been an absolute lie. It's a clash of the Titans, and the one person I trust to take us through it is Cheryl Atkinson, host of Full Measure investigative reporter. She joins me in 60 seconds.
Starting point is 00:43:28 This is the Glenn Beck program. All right, I want to talk to you a little bit about Relief Factor if you're in pain. What are you doing? Let me ask you again, if you're in pain. what are you doing? Stop with whatever is that you're trying to do that it's not working. And please try this. Stop thinking that you're going to have to live this way. 70% of the people that take relief factor go on to order more month after month because they're like me. It works. It works. I have talked to people who had been strung out on oxycodone for years. And their husband cried to me saying, thank you, thank you, thank you. I have my wife back. She didn't want to be on it, but the only thing that would stop her pain was oxycodone.
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Starting point is 00:45:11 The Russia investigation, a political assassination. Tomorrow night, 9 p.m. Eastern at blaisTV.com slash Glenn. You know, if you ever listen to somebody and you agree with everything they say, turn off the radio or look for some other voice because that person most likely is lying to you. The thing I like about Sherrockinson is she takes on both sides, She won an Emmy Award for Outstanding Investigative Journalism for the Business of Congress, which included an undercover investigation into fundraising by Republican freshmen. She had two other Emmy nominations for Benghazi, dying for security and green energy going red.
Starting point is 00:45:57 It was around that time period where she fell out of favor with the people at CBS News and elsewhere. She has kept her good name and her integrity, and she joins us now. Cheryl Atkinson from full measure. News. Cheryl, how are you? I'm great, Glenn. How are you? Good. I read your story this morning, and I wanted to get you on because I wondered if you could take us through what is happening with this so-called Obamagate and kind of explain it in layman's terms and tie it to your story that you just wrote, which is incredible about
Starting point is 00:46:37 all of the news inaccuracies over the last few years? I think that a lot of the conspiracy theories we heard about four years ago that I didn't put much stock in because they sounded so far fest in some cases had to a large degree proven through documentary evidence and testimony to be absolutely true. No one's more surprised than I am because, again, it just seemed like who would do that. and what I'm talking about is, go ahead. Yeah, I was just going to say, help me out on which conspiracy theories, because that's what everybody says about both sides.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Now, it's conspiracy theory. So this one is the notion that when President Trump became a viable candidate for office and threatened both the Democrat and Republican establishment, the money system, and what's perhaps even worse, threatened to bring in Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, who, let's say, knew where the bodies were, buried and the intelligence community knew he was going to upend abuses and corruption that he knew about, there became a desperate attempt to make sure that that didn't happen. And that included attempts to try to find anybody surrounding the Trump campaign who maybe had been to Russia
Starting point is 00:47:52 so that it would be easier to justify getting a wiretap against those people through which they could capture President Trump's communications and try to controversialize them and make sure that he didn't serve as an effective and complete president. I think that's what we've seen. That's why they targeted Flynn. You remember, President Obama met with President Elect Trump in the White House. And before any of these conversations that Flynn had with the Russian ambassador that were controversial, before any of this happened, President Obama reportedly told Trump, don't hire Flynn.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Why do you think that is? But I think it's pretty clear now based on, again, the documentary evidence. that there was an effort when Trump hired Flynn anyway to go after him. And as the handwritten notes of one Department of Justice official said, do we want to get him to lie? Is that the goal so that we can get him fired or get him prosecuted? And that's exactly what it appears they did. So, Cheryl, take me through the argument or the back and forth of the president knew about this,
Starting point is 00:49:02 the president didn't know about this. and and why that's important, these meetings that the president was involved in. Which meetings are you talking about? Sorry. The meetings, the meetings at the White House where, you know, I think it was Clapper said, no, I didn't inform the president. The president didn't know anything about this. And we now find out that they did have a meeting.
Starting point is 00:49:29 And they were talking about the FBI investigation. was coming to an end and he said, no, keep it open, keep it going. Oh, President Obama. I'm sorry, I was thinking President Trump. Oh, yes, sorry, President Trump. Obama. I have not dug into that yet, so I just don't have any particular insight. But the question that's been raised by the new information that's coming out,
Starting point is 00:49:54 three to four years later, by the way, after we should have had it, this is public information, in my view, it goes to the heart of potential criminal wrongdoing and national security. but this was kept hidden even by people working for President Trump for the past couple of years until now. But what we're getting at the heart of now is how high up this went. There has been a steady stream of documentation from the Inspector General and documents and congressional inquiries as to the participation and wrongdoing, including in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and proper wiretaps by FBI officials, the doctoring of a document by an FBI lawyer.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Well, we know all that now, but how high did it go? Did all of this happen sort of under the radar without the top authorities knowing? Or did President Obama play a role in helping to direct this? Did his top national security advisor and officials, what role did they play? I think we're finally getting at the heart of some of those questions. And I would tell you that in general, it defies credulity to think that all of this was being done at that level. the way it was being done without the knowledge of top officials. So what were they, when you said Flynn wanted to go, Obama would respond,
Starting point is 00:51:12 no, the guy's a racist. I didn't like the way he was, he spoke about Islam, et cetera, et cetera. What are the bodies that Flynn would have known that Obama didn't want uncovered? Well, I'll tell you a couple of things I know about, and this is before 2016, through my sources and intelligence community. I knew that they were wiretapping political figures and journalists, not just me, other people. A lot of people improperly, and I would say illegally, being monitored, perhaps blackmailed, or at least leverage used over people that knew they were being monitored or had been monitored. These are really big things that I think have been going on for years.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Edward Snowden revealed some of this. Some of it, a little bit we found out about. with revelations about the Obama administration getting subpoenas against associated press and that sort of thing. But I think a far greater danger, there were more under the table efforts, not even legal subpoenas that were being secretly, you know, given against the press. I think there were a lot more shenanigans being conducted insider intelligence agency for the past 15 years and top people, Brennan and Clapper, head of the Director of National Intelligence and head of the CIA, on multiple occasions that I've documented on a timeline at Cheryl Ackison.com provided false information to Congress.
Starting point is 00:52:38 They were part of spying on the Senate Intelligence Committee, but then providing misleading information when asked about it, then having to ultimately admit it and apologize. I mean, if you think about it, it almost starts to, when you look at the timeline, look like they were spying on practically everybody. Who weren't they spying on? This is not allowed under our Constitution and in our country. And I think Flynn knew about a lot of this. And going into 2016, I was told this was one thing that many people inside the intelligence community, the bad actors, not the good actors, but something that they feared.
Starting point is 00:53:13 So this is the worst case scenario, I think. For all Americans, I don't care if you're left or right. I don't care if you love Obama or love Trump. It doesn't matter. This is awful and leads us into a completely dystopian. world. Do you believe there's enough there, and are there any journalists out there that are part of the mainstream that this will affect enough to where they will say, we got to put partisan politics
Starting point is 00:53:44 aside, this has to be uncovered? I just think a lot of the deep diggers who would view things that way and just go where the facts lead, that's not being done at a lot of the mainstream news organizations anymore. They're just taking handout propaganda or comments from anonymous sources on one side of the other in publishing, but that's not a lot of real work or digging going into this. This takes real work. I've seen people like Glenn Greenwald of The Intercept and a couple of other places, including some less leading publications that have actually dug deep because their interest lies intersects in some cases with the interests of the right,
Starting point is 00:54:24 where these privacy invasions have happened, no matter who's committing them. or these constitutional violations, I have seen some deep digging, but it's not being done at what I guess you would call the traditional mainstream outlets. All right. I want to continue my conversation with Cheryl. I can sit in just a second.
Starting point is 00:54:42 You'll find her at full measure. Dot news. And I want to go over this amazing piece that she wrote, the media mistakes in the Trump area, the definitive list. And it is remarkable when you look at it. Go through some of the highlights here in just a second.
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Starting point is 00:56:30 It's rectechgrills.com slash back. Father's Day weekend, rectechgrills.com slash back. Okay. 10 seconds station ID. Cheryl Atkinson, you have written the definitive list of media mistakes. Tell me why this is important and why you did it first of all. Because without the complicity, what's the word, not complacency? but the complicit media, that a lot of these problems that have happened wouldn't be possible.
Starting point is 00:57:17 The media helped convince the press, for example, that for two and a half, three years, that the president was a Putin-Russian stooge by suspending the normal ethical guidelines that require us to not use anonymous sources unless certain things are done to check our facts. And they've basically, in large groups, lifted their ethical standards and guidelines to cover. this president, and they've stated the reason they're doing that is because he's so uniquely dangerous. And I've always argued that's even more important. When we don't like somebody we're covering, it's more important than ever to stand by our ethics and standards, and we're just not. And these mistakes, which are happening at the most formerly well-respected news outlets in the
Starting point is 00:58:02 world, mistakes that shouldn't happen in journalism college are being committed over and over again and universally on one side. If they were accidental, you might expect some of the mistakes at least half or at least a few would benefit President Trump. And maybe there's some I've missed, but I've been looking and I have not found any big media mistakes that have benefited President Trump. Yeah, that's what I said about the Chuck Todd thing over the weekend. You know, they said, oh, we inadvertently, no, you didn't. No, you didn't. You have a problem.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Chuck Todd should have known the full SAD should have known the full clip. but he apparently didn't or he just acted like he didn't. You have the editor. They cut it. You have the producer. No one, no one along the line thought that that was unfair. No one said,
Starting point is 00:58:51 hey, what did he say right after this? Is that really what he said? They just seem to have this, the feeling that they're bad. If it's not on this one, they've done something else. I mean, just get them.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Any amateur should have known on the Chuck Todd, quote, if someone hands you a quote today, I mean, and I would have done this years ago, but especially today, I would say I want to see the whole thing with my own eyes in context. Right. I want to see the whole transcript, myself, and read it. I would never look at a short excerpt of something and think that that told the whole story. It almost never does, by the way, when I check out an original source, when you hear some
Starting point is 00:59:33 sort of, you know, outrageous clip or accusation, my take, when I go view something, original is almost always different than the one I'm getting on the news, which is bad. So what did you find? What are the highlights of this that really stick out to you, Cheryl, on this list? Well, you know, I compiled, I started this, Glenn, when I think I was at about 30 or 50, and I just keep adding to it. But I would say really one that set the tone for me was on President Trump's inauguration day. There was a false. report by, gosh, I don't have in front of me, I want to say time, but I don't want to peg them if it wasn't then, but a major news, national news publication falsely said that President Trump
Starting point is 01:00:22 had removed the bus statue of Martin Luther King from the Oval Office. Right. Never happened. And this is, this would have been so easy. This is where the basic tenets of journalism weren't followed. If you think you saw the bus statue removed from the Oval Office, you're obligable. your obligation as a reporter is to, hey, tap someone on the shoulder in the Secret Service or call the White House Press Office or do something to verify, am I right about that?
Starting point is 01:00:48 Because that was wrong. But that report circulated the globe within an hour. And of course, the Mayacolpa that, oh, that didn't really happen. Those never are seen by the same number of people. And that, I think, set the tone because that was the narrative that President Trump is racist, It's a narrative that never existed until media matters created it through one of their affiliates, shortly before the 2016 election, but that served the narrative. And when these things serve a narrative, these reporters seem to just toss aside, again, basic journalism 101,
Starting point is 01:01:23 and decide they don't have to verify facts or check their information or anything. It's really shocking. So do you see, for instance, in this Obamagate thing? I mean, I can't think of something. President Obama is right about one thing. The rule of law is at stake. He's just on the wrong end of it, I think. If we don't fix this, Cheryl, we spiral into something that is really dark and dystopian, I believe.
Starting point is 01:01:55 And it looks as though we're going to have half the country believing one side that has been proven to be wrong over and over again. or, you know, or the other side. We can't live like this. Is anything going to be done? Will anyone actually go to jail on this? What happens from here? I think there will be, and I was told back in 2016, when this started by some Intel insiders,
Starting point is 01:02:25 they thought people would go to prison, and they told me who they thought should go to prison, some top people. but I don't have any great faith that important people that pulled strings will. I mean, I even hear people in the face of the obvious things that have happened based on documentation we have. I still hear people, you know, members of the Republican Party say things like, well, you know, we'll have to see if they didn't dot this eye across this T. And I'm thinking it's not whether they broke a specific tiny law. It's the overarching coup theory here that's really important.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Cheryl Atkinson, thank you so much from Full Measure. We'll tweet this article out in just a few minutes. This is the Glenn Beck Pro. All right, this is the time of year when your lawn starts to grow at the same rate your kids' hair does. Thankfully, unlike the barbershops and salons, no one's gotten around to arresting people for mowing their lawn. But I may be speaking too quickly. You know, California and Michigan are just starting. to mow their lawns especially in Michigan.
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Starting point is 01:04:29 week for the $30 off at blazed tv.com slash glen make sure to use the promo code glen to save the 30 bucks till friday this is the glenbeck program welcome to it i i just have to play this amazing uh interaction between a cbs news reporter and donald trump listen said many times that the u.s is doing far better than any other country when it comes to testing yes why does that matter why is this a global competition to you if every day Americans are still losing their lives and we're still seeing more cases every day? Well, they're losing their lives everywhere in the world. And maybe that's a question you should ask China. Don't ask me. Ask China that question, okay? When you ask them that question, you may get a very unusual answer. Yes, behind you, please. Now, she doesn't,
Starting point is 01:05:34 she sits back down. She's specifically. I'm telling you. I'm not saying it specifically to anybody. I'm saying it to anybody who would ask a nasty question like that's not a nasty question please go ahead why does it matter okay uh anybody else please go ahead in the back please no it's okay but you pointed to me i have two questions mr president next next please but you didn't you called on me i did and you didn't respond and now i'm calling on the young lady in the back please i just wanted to let my colleague finish but can ask ladies and gentlemen thank you very much appreciate it thank you very much the way he should have handled it.
Starting point is 01:06:12 He should have handled it this way. First of all, in case you weren't watching Blaze TV or just listening to it, this woman, she stands up, she's from CBS, she's wearing her face mask, and he says, you should ask China about that. She then sits down, he calls on the woman behind her, and she stands up, but walks forward and looks at the other girl from CBS. This says, do you want to continue?
Starting point is 01:06:39 and that's when she leans up into the mic and says, yeah, why would, takes her mask off? Yeah, why would you ask me? Now she's fully revealed as an Asian woman. And she was hinting that the president is just a racist.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Which you couldn't see when she had her mask on. Like she legitimately could not, you had no idea what, you know, nationality she may have been or whatever heritage she had until she takes her mask off and then blames him for knowing what was behind the mask. Maybe he did. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:07 But trying to. And why do you... And he says that all the time. Ask China. When you're asking me questions, maybe you should ask China some of these questions. Now, what's amazing about this in another sense is the fact that her question is you continually say we're doing better than other countries. Why is this a global competition? Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:36 wait so now the president because the president was under attack for so long saying we're behind every other country we're not doing it like all these other countries we're going it alone we're doing all these crazy things maybe we should listen to the other countries now when he says we're doing better than all those other countries now why is it a global competition this is why the president is so frustrated and i think why the american people people are so frustrated, ask some damn questions that actually matter. Now, the reason why the president is saying, Ask China is because there's growing evidence that China screwed something up in a lab
Starting point is 01:08:23 and accidentally maybe released this coronavirus. Do you think that's maybe important? Maybe we should talk about our bio-weapons labs all around the world. Who should have them? who shouldn't have them? You know, what is the state of China's ethics and the security at their labs? This is the real question is, why was the world unprepared? We were unprepared because China lied to everyone.
Starting point is 01:08:54 But they don't want to ask that question. Instead, they want to make sure that everybody knows it's racist to say, you know what? In fact, I don't think I can do the rest of this segment. Do we have the coronavirus flu, please? Thank you. This is just a little theme song we just put together. All right. So it's the China flu because that's where it came from.
Starting point is 01:09:32 It should be called the Wuhan flu. That's how we do. The Spanish flu. That was mislabeled. But we went with that. That's what we thought at the time. It came from Spain. It didn't come from Spain.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Okay. But we still call it the Spanish flu. This one we know came. from Wuhan. It's the Wuhan flu. Or as our theme song says, the China flu. Now, the president is getting hammered for being technically accurate and following the way we always name diseases. Always. He's getting hammered. But you know who didn't get hammered yesterday? I'll play the clip from Cuomo, will you? When we started this, yes, we have more cases than anyone else. Yes, we had this European virus attack us and nobody expected it. But we're not only going to change our
Starting point is 01:10:35 trajectory. We're going to change the trajectory more dramatically than any place else in the nation. Why is this a competition? Why is this a competition, Governor Cuomo? And should I ask the Europeans why you're calling it a European virus? Oh my. The inconsistency. You could baby call it a European mutation, but I think that actually is on the West Coast, isn't it? The European mutation?
Starting point is 01:11:06 Well, I mean, look, regardless of where it came from, if it came from Europe, where did Europe get it? What is the point of this? I have no idea. Yeah, I got news for you. Sarah, do we have the other? do we have the other China virus because it makes me, I mean, you know, we did the China flu thing and, and, you know, that was cute and everything. But it makes me want to go to the other theme. Do we still have
Starting point is 01:11:32 that other theme? All right. Yeah, look that up. I can't take it. The media is just ridiculous on this. You know, I went back, it was late March when we were having. We remember he had these testing issues at the beginning of March, which was a real problem. And we started to ramp up testing. And it was in late March where Science Magazine came out. And they said the U.S. has been behind in testing. South Korea is completing an amazing. I think the quote was an amazing, a staggering, staggering, 15,000 tests a day.
Starting point is 01:12:10 15,000 tests a day. Later that week, the United States passed 15,000 tests a day. And then the press made this argument constantly. Well, you haven't tested as many people overall. And then we passed South Korea in overall testing. Then they started making the argument. Well, per capita, it is way behind what South Korea has done. Well, now we are to the point where per capita, we are miles ahead of South Korea.
Starting point is 01:12:37 And still the questions come in about how bad our testing is. Like, there is never, the goalpost gets moved every single time we make it to the end zone. and this is a massive problem for the media because they are solely focused on finding something they can just, you know, hammer the president and hammer the job we've done. When, you know, look, when you look at the global picture, we've done a lot better than a lot of places. But New York has not. New York Health Department we found out just had sent out 1,600 damaged coronavirus tests for nursing homes. they were unusable. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:13:23 So they sent those out to nursing homes. Meanwhile, as we pointed out last week, Governor Cuomo instituted a policy that forced nursing homes to take in COVID patients. And that's why New York State had more deaths in their nursing homes than the rest of the country combined. he just announced yesterday officially putting an end of that policy that is forcing the nursing homes to take COVID patients. So he is saying things like, you know, the European virus. That's a European virus. To keep in the good graces of the left and the left media, he can only, they can only cover him for so long.
Starting point is 01:14:10 If they turn on him, he's toast and he knows it. He knows it. So he's got to give them the little gems along the way so they can pick those up and gain a little bit more power. And he gets more friendship power with those little gems. Because he's awful. Awful. This this this nursing home thing is awful. Seriously, they knew it.
Starting point is 01:14:38 The nursing homes were begging for this to be changed. He did nothing. he denied even knowing anything about it when his name and signature was on the on the policy yeah and how did he not know about it yeah he he did and it's not better if he didn't know is it i mean it's a terrible idea if he's running this response and the single most important decision probably of the entire response would be do you decide to import covid positive patients into nursing homes with the most vulnerable people in our society to this virus and he's he said, yeah, we should. And then when they said, well, what about it? What if we test some people to make sure as they're coming in, they're not positive? Can we do that? They said, no, you are banned from testing people who are asymptomatic for COVID-19. He did that. And then he finally did reverse it yesterday, which is incredibly late. But we should also point out, he continues a policy, which seems to be unique to the entire United States, where he is reporting deaths in nursing homes
Starting point is 01:15:42 only if they actually died at the nursing home. So if they are a nursing home resident that goes to the hospital, he is not reporting it as a nursing home death, which every other state in the union appears to be doing, which is why his numbers for nursing home deaths are actually considerably lower than reality, despite being the worst in the country. And he continues to do this as well.
Starting point is 01:16:08 No reporter has asked him about it yet, but it continues to go on to this. day. Well, it just makes me want to play the other China virus. I think this, I think Trump should play this every time.
Starting point is 01:16:27 We're going to talk about the the China. Now, it may be too far. It may be too far and very offensive. But just just for the journalists, I think it should be played.
Starting point is 01:16:43 With apologies to every Asian, American, every Asian ever born now in the past, in the future, really. But just to go to the journalists, I think every time he talks about the Jeddavirus, that should play. Now, I just hope that they don't have a theme for the European virus,
Starting point is 01:17:07 which is really what's hurt our country. You know, this Italy-born disease. We'll get a, you know, we'll get a, I don't know what you call those little squeeze box. things from from Italy or we'll get a new pop-pop-paw band from Germany and we'll make that for and you know what no one would have a problem with it not one person would have a problem with it all right biggest watchword of the modern era surely has to be privacy I have to tell you there's a new story out about what they are what the Democrats are looking to do on privacy it is terrifying
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Starting point is 01:19:30 what you need to do is listen to the Democrats on coronavirus because they've been right all the way along. Here they are. The risk to New Yorkers for coronavirus is low. And our city preparedness is high. This should not stop you from going about your life. Should not stop you from going to China Town and going out to eat. I'm going to do that today myself. Come to Chinatown.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Here we are. We're again, careful, safe, and come join us. There is no concern at this time for coronavirus in our region. The Department of Sanitation is ready for Montegroh, 2020. The facts are reassuring. We want New Yorkers to go about their daily lives. There's really no need to panic and to avoid activities that we always do as New Yorkers. We are a hardy people.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Americans do not need to panic. What I would suggest, however, is that Americans take this as a wake-up call for seasonal flu. There's very little threat here. This disease, even if you were to get it, basically acts like a common cold or flu. So we're telling New Yorkers, go about your lives, take the subway, go out, enjoy life. And certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday. I'm going to be there. If you had to, would you close down the borders? No.
Starting point is 01:20:50 We need to be honest about the American people, with the American people about the fact that we can't keep people coming here from China. And transmission is not that easy. I think there's been a misperception that coronavirus hangs in the air waiting to catch you. No, it takes direct person-to-person contact. We also know that if it were likely to be transmitted casually, we would be seeing a lot more cases. Right, right, because this is New York and you're in elevators and chains with everybody all the time. Unbelievable, unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Of course, you know, nobody will hold them responsible. We will. We will. Megan Kelly and her interview with Tara Reid coming up in one minute. Megan asked every question that I would ask Tara Reid. And she joins us next. You're listening to Glenn. I want to talk to you.
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Starting point is 01:23:54 She's one. I would love to have Laura Logan on today to talk about what's going on, but we instead have a third out of the five. Megan Kelly, she is all over this Tara Reid story. She just did an interview with Tara. I watched it, and rarely do I say, she asked every question that I would ask. Usually there's something that somebody left on the table.
Starting point is 01:24:24 There's nothing that she didn't ask. An incredible interview. Megan Kelly joins us live in 60 seconds. This is the Glenn Beck program. So I'm a dog owner. If you're a dog owner, I want you to listen up. My dog has changed. Uno is a different dog.
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Starting point is 01:25:56 Roughgreens.com slash back. World renowned journalist. She is probably one of the best interviewers I have seen. I'm trying to think of somebody that was better. I can't think of anybody that is better at doing interviews. She always gets to the bottom of it. And I think that's because she was a lawyer. She was a litigator for nine years before she went.
Starting point is 01:26:30 into journalism. Welcome to the program, Megan Kelly. How are you? Hey, Glenn. Good to see you. Oh, good to see you. I didn't know you were going to be on Skype as well. Great. Glad to have you. I made it for you. Well, thank you. Thank you. So, Megan, I watched your interview. I've watched it twice now. I honestly, very rarely do I say there's no question left on the table because I, wanted to try to get her and I think she chose you instead, obviously. But I thought I had some real questions for her. You handled all of them. How did you find her personally?
Starting point is 01:27:16 Well, personally, she was delightful. You know, she was perfectly kind, warm. She's been through the ringer. You could see that too. This is not a woman of great means. And, you know, when I got to her, she had, I think, the night before hired, well, not hired, she's not paying him, but gotten a lawyer and a PR person for the first time in this whole thing. So she, for the first time, felt a little bit more steady. You know, she's had no protection.
Starting point is 01:27:43 And she's out there, you know, she's on a very thin read, and she's getting it from all sides. And she's got no team, Glenn. You know what I mean? There's no natural constituency backing her. So she was a little, I don't know if the word's fragile, but maybe just a little. unsteady. So how shocked do you think she was? Because I say this to people all the
Starting point is 01:28:03 time. They say, I want to come out and take a stand or I just want to agree with whatever. And I'll say to people all the time, are you really aware? People don't know, Megan, until, unless they've lived your life or my life or Tara's life now, how horrible
Starting point is 01:28:21 the media and social media can be. I mean, it is a business of destroying people now. Oh, yeah. How shocked? How shocked was she by that? And what kind of damage has been done to her?
Starting point is 01:28:37 Well, I mean, I think she was expecting to have her credibility question. You know, you better be if you're going to come out and accuse somebody running for president of something as serious as this. She's not, she's no dummy. She understood she was going to take hits in terms of whatever. You know, is she credible? Does the story make sense? But, you know, her bankruptcy got posted online. And they're going back to 1993 and looking for, did she bounce a check?
Starting point is 01:29:00 It's like, you know what? I put myself through law school and you want to go back and look at my balance checks, you're going to find a lot of them. You know, it doesn't mean I'm not a credible person. A lot of us were poor when you were in the 20s. And so I think that part of it has been rough that somebody posted a picture and her address of her daughter who's, you know, in her 20s. And that's messed up.
Starting point is 01:29:20 She's getting death threats over this. Just, you know, the media is totally irresponsible. and people are so nasty and social media is so awful. So I think she's a little rattled, but all things considered, she was holding it together. So has the Me Too movement changed anything? I mean, if you accuse the right person, it's good. If you accuse the wrong person, it's not. I mean, has it changed anything for women?
Starting point is 01:29:46 I mean, because if I were a woman and I had a story to tell, I would be terrified after seeing what's happening to her. Well, I will say this. I think political accusers, you know, accusers in a political race get it the worst, right? It's like, not that like the Harvey Weinstein accusers had it. So, right, for God's sake, Rose McGowan, like secret agents following her and trying to dupe her. But if you come forward, whether it's Trump, Biden, Roy Moore, you know, as an accuser in an election year, you're going to get it worse. Because as we've seen with Tara Reid, even constituencies that might naturally support you are now suddenly very suspicious of you.
Starting point is 01:30:22 So I think that's rough. But to your question about the Me Too movement, it's done some good. I think there's no question it's done some good in calling attention to the fact that, you know, there is harassment in the workplace. Most women, most of time have just gone along with it because we kind of were told this is how you make it in the man's world. And so just sort of putting that asterisk in people's minds like, this is a thing. And, you know, you should probably at least listen when a woman comes forward and actually putting the head in the men's heads that they can. come forward if they have something, all good. But the pendulum, you know, which was over here when it came to women's allegations. Like when I was in college back in the early 90s, if you came
Starting point is 01:31:04 out with a rape allegation, you were probably going to be dismissed a lot more easily than you would be today. So that, so the pendulum needed to swing. But like so many of these things, we've overcorrected to a point where now the accused, they haven't been getting due process. you can make a single allegation that's unsupported and ruin a guy's career over 30 years. That's not okay either. You know, we've got to get to a place where we settle where the women are taken seriously or the men accusing. They're heard, but due process is afforded to the person being accused. So if tarot greed is the person who can do that by exposing the hypocrisy of some of the Democrats who have, you know,
Starting point is 01:31:44 with the believe all women nonsense, which was never sincere, then she's done good for the country. and we'll see whether her allegation has impact beyond that. Okay, so I want to come back to the listening versus believing and the impact on politics and stuff in a second. But I want to go, you know, you just said if you made a rape allegation in the 80s or 90s, you would have been in trouble. And what they probably would have done is shud, a slut shamed you. And I noticed a little bit of this with her answers first, where, you know, stop wearing short skirts. And she said, I wasn't wearing short skirts. I was just wearing stuff off the rack.
Starting point is 01:32:21 But then I thought one of the most uncomfortable things that she said, because I think she knew. And she felt the old slut shaming kind of thing about her underwear and how, without getting graphic, how Biden gained access. And you could see she was uncomfortable with that because of her mother and she didn't want to tell her mother that. And that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:32:48 sense to me and it makes sense to me that she wouldn't want to say anything and it makes sense to me that she understood the slut-shaming thing that she's asking for it look at her skirts i'll put my lawyer head on now and argue both ways right you can you can say she was uncomfortable having that discussion because she didn't really want to reveal to the world that she was wearing what i think she was saying were crotchless underwear to work at the u.s. Senate because she was supposed to your boyfriend later, and that was her story. Or you could say she seemed uncomfortable because she wasn't telling the truth, because she had to explain how he could gain access under her skirt so quickly.
Starting point is 01:33:30 And, you know, there's a belief by Sam on Capitol Hill that all the women back then in 92, 93, were wearing panty hose that it was either an unwritten rule or an actual rule. You had to wear panty hose in your legs, and therefore Biden couldn't have done this. So, you know, that's up to the viewer. where I really believe, well, over the course of a 40-minute interview like that, they'll walk away with a good sense as to whether they're seeing a truth-teller or not. Did you see a truth-teller or not? Well, I'm not going to opine on my own personal belief because I want to continue reporting on this case.
Starting point is 01:34:03 And I, you know, I shouldn't choose a sign. I mean, I definitely have my own belief, but it's irrelevant. So is it the Karen person that is not a real name? Can you tell me about, I don't know what, I don't want to know who she is, but tell me about her and why she is important and why she's not comfortable coming out. Okay. So Karen is by far Tara Reid's best witness. She, Tara has, you know, a corroborating witness that is far more compelling than anything we saw from Christine Blasey Ford. I mean, far more compelling.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Far more. I mean, there's no contest. And anybody who tells you differently is lying to. Karen is the person who was friends with Tara on Capitol Hill and was in Ted Kennedy's office as a young intern at the time. They befriended one another. And Tara told Karen contemporaneously with the alleged assault that it had happened. And according to Karen, Tara's never deviated in a single detail over 30 years about what allegedly happened that day. I've spoken with Karen at length.
Starting point is 01:35:16 She's a professional. She's smart. She's on it. You know, you talk to her and you're like, okay, this is a very credible person who's been successful in her life. But at best, what that establishes for Tara is that Tara told Karen this happened. It doesn't prove that it actually happened. And so, you know, you would have to believe there's something a little wacky about
Starting point is 01:35:39 Tara, right, that she would back then be making a story like this. But Glenn, that happens sometimes. Sometimes that does happen. I'm not saying it happen here, but people do need to allow for the possibility that Tara did make that up and has been telling witnesses for 30 years because it's a story that somehow meant something to her and she decided to spread it. Okay. So I want to let me take a one minute break. And then I'm going to come back with you, Megan. And follow up there that we have to, you know, give the benefit.
Starting point is 01:36:14 of the doubt that maybe she did make that up. And there's another screw loose. We don't know. We'll go there here in just a second. One minute back with Megan Kelly. I want to thank our sponsor, LifeLock. In the recent study, researchers revealed a substantial rise in the number of cyber attacks performed by websites posing as Netflix. I mean, they are just, they don't miss a, they don't miss a trick.
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Starting point is 01:37:52 So you said to one of my producers, Megan, that the media's cover. No, no, sorry. That it is a haunting case in more ways than one. That's a quote from you. Yeah. Why? What do you mean by that? Because if it's true, it's deeply disturbing information about Joe Biden.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Deeply disturbing. I mean, it's sick. What kind of a man would, in passing in a Senate hallway, when seeing a young staff assistant sexually assault her, right? If you give her the benefit of the doubt and say, I believe her. do you really want that man as president, right? And if it's not true, then this is sort of one of those situations where you got to ask, what's happened to the country where someone can make an allegation, it can besmirch a former vice president, a former U.S. senator, and all the media now finally is talking about it.
Starting point is 01:38:51 And, you know, it's just very easy to sort of put that ring around somebody's neck, maybe unfairly. But the number one thing I want to say about the haunting nature of it is it just exposed how false these people who are pretending their women's advocates are. It upsets me as a woman, as somebody who actually has stood for female empowerment for my entire life. I don't call myself a feminist, but I defy anybody to challenge me on standing up for female empowerment. I've done it and I have a career that proves it. However, the nonsense by these people who were protesting against Brett Kavanaugh who were vicious against him. I mean, vicious.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Remember those women who stormed the Capitol and we're just calling the worst possible names? The 180 that they have done now that the allegations are against a Democrat trying to take down Trump is disgusting to me. Disgusting. So, Megan, that brings me to the place where I was under Trump, under Kavanaugh, and Kavanaugh was a little different because I went in to listen to her testimony and I was open-minded. I don't know Kavanaugh. I didn't know at all.
Starting point is 01:40:09 I wanted to hear her. By the end, I was like, well, maybe I don't think so, but maybe. And then I listened to Kavanaugh. They didn't have anything. And so how could you possibly do it? But even if you, even if you do believe that maybe this happened, what do you do with that knowledge? I mean, these people who are coming out and saying, I believe he did do it, but I'm going to vote for him anyway. That I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Because this is assault. I can make their case. Their case is Trump's worse. They think, well, he was accused by over 12 women of some sort of harassment or assault. So, you know, if I got a, if I got a back, I'll go with the guy who's got my letter on, the big D on the top. That's what they're eating. Right.
Starting point is 01:40:58 But if you are one that said, how can these people vote for Donald Trump? Because he's so awful. He did these things. I have tried to stay, listen to people, listen to the accusers. They should not be believed. They should be listened to and taken seriously. then when they present evidence, weigh that evidence, but I still am uncomfortable. Tara is the closest I've come to where she has a lot of evidence, but I don't want to destroy someone's career on my gut.
Starting point is 01:41:38 I don't know. This is not a good process. I'll say this. In both the Blasey Ford and the Tara Reid case, we're dealing with something. similar. The women didn't come forward until 30 or 40 years after the fact, right? Blasie Ford was like, I don't know, and Tara's 30. It is very hard to put a guy in that position of having to defend that. You know, I mean, the lack of memory, the absence of details. I mean, and I'll just take Biden's point of view for the moment, if she had come forward a week after this
Starting point is 01:42:12 happened or a month after this happened, he could go back, he could look at his date book, He could tell you where he was that he could find witnesses who had just seen him. You know, there'd be a way to defend against the allegations. Same for Kavanaugh. A hundred percent same for Kavanaugh. But when you're going to slap somebody with these allegations decades after the fact and then not even be specific about when. And I understand maybe the women genuinely don't understand when and where exactly.
Starting point is 01:42:38 It gets tougher to just give them the benefit of the doubt, right? Because you're talking about destroying a person's career. their livelihood. I mean, Brett Kavanaugh, they wanted to talk about what he did when he was allegedly, or allegedly did when he was 16. He went on to lead a stellar professional life, not even a whiff of an inappropriate allegation. And all the time he was on the deceased and so on. And yet they were like, he must be destroyed. You know, he's a rape apology. He's always, it's like, oh my God. Now Biden, he's, he has a whiff. There's been a whiff of inappropriate handsiness. Oh, yeah. But nothing approaching sexual. assault of this nature. But I just think we do put people in really tough positions. It's not to say you shouldn't come forward if you have an allegation like this, you want to be heard, but it makes your case far less compelling the more time that goes on. All right. So I appreciate that you're going to stick with us through the next break. When we come back, I want to talk to you a little bit about what's happening in Washington with General Flynn, with now what Trump is calling
Starting point is 01:43:39 Obamagate. And really, Megan, what I'm looking for is Who do we trust? How can we survive as a nation if half of us believe one thing and the other half believes another? And especially now that we, I just had Cheryl Atkinson on and she just did a list of 130 lies the media has told about Donald Trump that are now provable. Provable. And yet they're going to be probably half the country that still goes along with them. and there's no, there doesn't seem to be any consequence to anything anymore that's real. So who do we trust?
Starting point is 01:44:19 How do we find the truth? We'll continue with Megan Kelly coming up in just a second. Thank you so much for being on, Megan. All right. Stand by. More with her. All right you then. Let me tell you about Goldline.
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Starting point is 01:46:15 This is the Glenn Beck program. We're thrilled to have Megan Kelly on with us for the full hour here where she just did a Tara Reed interview. If you haven't seen it, you need to see it. It really gets down to the bottom. And then you're just going to have to decide whether you believe. or not, and then what do you do about that information? Megan, I ask you a question about who do we trust, but before we get to that, can you just
Starting point is 01:46:39 tell me the listener, what is happening with the General Flynn, FBI, Barack Obama, Obamagate, Donald Trump thing now? What is this story really? What's happening? I mean, my view of it as a lawyer is the Obama administration, unfairly set up and targeted General Flynn, and they got him. And they threatened his son, and he pleaded guilty. And then he decided that was a mistake and tried to undo it.
Starting point is 01:47:11 And this DOJ has said, you know what? Yeah, we think it was partisan, and we're going to come up with a reason to get rid of the charges against you. So I do think it was probably, I mean, what this DOJ is saying, well, you're lying, you lied, but it wasn't material. So we didn't really have a case against you because it has to be both. a lie and it has to be a material lie. They're saying, we didn't really have you on material. Because he was, he told the FBI that he hadn't had this conversation with the Russian ambassador when he had, coming into the Trump administration. And they're saying it wasn't material,
Starting point is 01:47:43 so you know what, never mind. Forget your guilty plea, forget everything. And people are like, oh, it's totally cynical, it's political, it is material. I mean, I think the bar for materiality is pretty low. So if the DOJ had wanted to stick it to Flynn and continue, you know, going after him, they easily could have. But I see it more as an evening of the scales. You know, I love how the press and Obama's defenders want to talk about the DOJ under President Obama. Like it was this totally independent, high bro, committed to only justice in the law
Starting point is 01:48:18 organization. Please, did anybody cover that DOJ? Does anybody remember Eric Holder declaring himself an activist that he was proud of it? He got rid of all these career lawyers. He replaced them with partisans who were loyal to him. He didn't enforce the immigration laws that were on the books because that's what his boss, Obama, wanted. Like, can you spare me the moralizing, right? So I think Bill Barr, he evened the scales.
Starting point is 01:48:47 And now we're back at, at least as far as Michael Flynn goes. When it comes to justice, we're back at zero. Although I think Flynn would say, where do I go to get my reputation back? I'm not crying too many years about that because, you know, you should tell the FBI. the truth. So I'm not too so I don't be away. So do you think there's anything to the
Starting point is 01:49:05 charges now that this was a setup and that Obama was orchestrating a setup to hurt Donald Trump's campaign? I don't know the answer to that. I'll say this. President Obama sure did have a lot of direct contacts
Starting point is 01:49:25 with the FBI in a way that was pretty unusual and that actually excluded his person over at the DOJ, Sally Yates. And why was he doing that? Like, what would I think we need to know more. So I'm glad they're investigating it. I am open-minded to the possibility that things may not have been completely kosher in the relationship between the executive branch and the DOJ and in particular, the FBI under President
Starting point is 01:49:50 Obama. Now, Megan, I may have been really naive and stupid. And most of my life, I have been. but I remember in the good old days actually trusting the justice department to the most degree the FBI was credible with me it's not that they could do no wrong
Starting point is 01:50:14 but there would be a rogue agent or something I no longer believe in the justice system I don't believe in so many of these things because there's just too many questions and nobody ever seems to really come down to the answer. It's always political. It's always political.
Starting point is 01:50:33 So how do we find the truth? How do we survive without a media? Who do you run to when you don't trust the police, you don't trust the government, and you don't trust the watchdog, the media? Who do you go to? I have the same frustration, Glenn. You know, I, early on in the COVID story,
Starting point is 01:50:55 I sent out a tweet saying, I'm so frustrated right now because, you know, essentially, President Trump does not have exactly what we'd call an adult relationship with the truth. And the media is even worse. They're even worse. You know, it's like, I love how the media is like Trump. He didn't have it right on COVID in the very beginning of March and he was lying and all this stuff. And it's like, and we, the media, we were explaining everything to you and you should have believed us. and there's no self-reflection. Why didn't we believe you?
Starting point is 01:51:27 None. You know, it's the classic boy who cried wolf. For three years now, everything President Trump touches, anything that could damage his administration has been an 11. It's an 11, it's an 11, alert. And now when they finally got to something that we really needed to pay attention to, and they were like, another 11, most Americans were like, I don't trust you anymore.
Starting point is 01:51:48 I can see this could be damaging to President Trump. and that's the last story I would trust the media on. And I and myself had that same feeling. And I didn't trust Trump's information either when he had that presser and he was saying that he was shutting down travel from Europe, which only turned out to be partially true and kind of a mistake. I am frustrated myself because I don't have like the one source I can go to where I'm like, okay, that person's going to be totally honest with me. I have a couple that I listen to or that I read.
Starting point is 01:52:15 But it's tough. You've got to actively work for it. So what happens to a republic? when most people aren't going to read. They're not going to look into it themselves. I hear from people all the time. Glenn, you say, do your own homework. How?
Starting point is 01:52:29 How? I don't even know how to do my own homework. And there are so many conspiracy theories. And then on top of it, you have YouTube saying, you know, the average person in their basement, they don't have a valuable opinion. We can censor those people. Wait, that's what you built your business on. And that only makes things worse.
Starting point is 01:52:50 You know, when they say, only if you disagree with the WHO, then you're not credible. Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. We should question the WHO. And it's just feeding on to itself over and over again. Well, and to your point about the FBI, I used to feel as you felt too. I mean, I was sort of in the justice system for 10 years as a litigator.
Starting point is 01:53:13 And I had nothing but reverence for the DOJ, for the attorney general, for the FBI. I mean, I had sort of been raised. to believe in them and to give them to complete benefit of the doubt. I used to think Comey was, you know, like a national hero, the story at the deathbed. Like, Comey, I really admired. What a 180, right? Now, like, I see him so differently. But it's a good lesson.
Starting point is 01:53:39 It's a good lesson, you know, just because they get this sort of big badge, we shouldn't necessarily give them big deference. And I mean, I will tell you what I do as somebody who's just a private citizen at the moment, you know, trying to figure life out. every morning I go to realclearpolitics.com and I've been doing this for over 10 years. RealclearPolitics.com and they take an editorial from the left and one from the right
Starting point is 01:54:01 and they always have both sides of every issue. And I read them both. And Glenn, if you take one from the left and one from the right and put them kind of on top of each other, like transparency style back from when we were in school, a set of facts begin to emerge. And you can see them being spun one way or the other, but you do emerge with a set of facts
Starting point is 01:54:19 that each side is sort of grappling with. And that's the best I know how to do right now. As far as faith in government institutions, I think one of the good things Trump has done is rattle that. You know, if he had thrown such a fit about the FBI, would we know what Komi is? Would we know about Peter and Lisa and their texts and their affair, you know, their willingness, their intent to get Flynn, among others?
Starting point is 01:54:43 We wouldn't. So more information is better. Are you concerned at all with the coronavirus? virus of some of these states where, I mean, you know, we don't even know if Elon Musk is going to be locked up today. I kind of hope just because it'll be entertaining, because he will never let it go. But, you know, some of these states have been very draconian. Are you concerned that the American people or, you know, the spying, the adopting of new technologies that are for the virus, but I doubt they'll go away. Are you concerned about any of that stuff?
Starting point is 01:55:17 I mean, what concerns me right now is how anyone who's focused on the 30 million unemployed wants to kill grandma, right? That's the narrative in the press. If you have any empathy for, concern about the economy, the people whose lives have been ruined by the loss of their livelihood, their lifelong job, their lifelong career, you want people to die. It's such a false narrative. And I think, you know, we're now at the point where we really have managed to flatten the curve at like, for example, my home state of New York. And we have to get real about the fact that life is going to go on and human beings are not going to stay inside for much longer. They're just not going to. I mean, the notion that you can say we have to stay
Starting point is 01:56:01 inside until we find a vaccine or we have to continue the lot. It's crazy. Bull, bologna. They're not going to do it. That's not in our DNA as Americans. And it's not because we don't care about grandma. You know, it's just we, freedom is built into us as a people. And, and, you know, and, And there's only so much people are willing to sacrifice of their own lives, their children's livelihoods before they say we have to find a compromise. We've got to find a way that people can get back to work and we can still do something reasonable to mitigate the losses. I think we, I agreed at the time of shutting things down because of the overwhelming of
Starting point is 01:56:36 the hospital systems. We just couldn't, we just couldn't do that. But what we've done instead with the shutting down of the entire. economy for this long, I worry about what's coming next with the economy. I mean, I just... I look at Governor Cuomo. I'm a New Yorker. In Governor Cuomo, New York, when he first started coming out with his press conferences,
Starting point is 01:57:01 I was like, okay, I like this. I like being told the good news and the bad news, and then I'll make up my own mind about whether I think your policy makes sense. Now it's totally morphed. Like, now his line is really truly like one life. you know, one life makes all the difference and we'll deal with the financial impact later. Like, that's not, since when is that U.S. policy that we have to completely shut down all risk to any one life? I mean, when you're talking about massive loss of life, that's one thing.
Starting point is 01:57:31 But we can't keep the economy shut to protect one potential life. You will have massive loss of life because the economy tanks. Nobody's looking at that side. And I got hammered from the left and seemingly everybody else. by saying we are destroying lives and destroying rights by trying to hold up a right that none of us have a right to, and that is to always be safe. There's no way possible for that to happen. We don't have a right to just save one life by taking the rights away from everyone.
Starting point is 01:58:09 That's not a lie. You weren't born with that right. You are going to run into risk. Nine times out of ten, the people who I see, you know, lecturing people on how they ought to be, they ought to be quiet about the economy are people who are journalists and who have jobs and steady paychecks. You know, how can you judge somebody who goes to one of these protests and, you know, you shouldn't get too close and you should be respectful and the masks are good? But like, how can you judge somebody who can't pay their mortgage or their rent can't pay for their kids food or schooling? and trying to get their voice out there because they don't have a national microphone to say
Starting point is 01:58:44 this is wrong and I matter too. You know, I just, it upsets me the elitism I see amongst the journalists of like, oh, the Neanderthals who don't care about human life. Megan, I don't know how you've stayed so normal, but I'm glad you have. Thank you so much for all the work that you do. And stay healthy. We'll talk again.
Starting point is 01:59:07 Thanks. You too, my friend. Good to see you. You bet. Megan Kelly, if you have not seen her interview with Tara Reid, you need to. I think it'll answer all of your questions that you might have on this Joe Biden thing. All right. Somewhere in America, within the sound of my voice, there is a man stepping through the doorway
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Starting point is 02:01:05 A political assassination. Tomorrow night, 9 p.m. Eastern at blaisTV.com slash Glenn. You're listening. So what did you think of Megan and her analysis on things, too? I thought she was great, honestly. I mean, I think she was a very smart perspective on those topics. And, you know, she was able to, you know, there's just not a lot of people who do what she's doing anymore.
Starting point is 02:01:40 And there's not, she doesn't come from a big partisan side of things. And she kind of just lays out what she thinks is true. and I, at least at this point, probably more than ever, value people who at least I believe are giving me their actual opinion. Even if it's not right, at least I believe they're not manipulating it to try to fit some sort of market signal. And I don't think she was very careful not to give her opinion, especially on Tara Reid. Right. She didn't give her opinion. She gave a good analysis of what occurred.
Starting point is 02:02:12 And, you know, it was nice to hear that, I think, where I'm not getting. I think if we went to some left-wing source who did that interview, you would see, you know, the typical, you know, all of a sudden they wouldn't believe no women. They'd go to that side of it. And if you went to a, you know, there was a lot of push for Reid to go do an interview
Starting point is 02:02:32 with a much more partisan, conservative, Republican type of host. And I don't think that would have done her story any value. I mean, I don't think it's bad for her to do it now, but I think the first interview would, it was smart to go to somebody who could be, you know, who has played these issues and dealt with them very seriously in the past, but also would ask her tough questions. And I think that was, it was a good balance. I think it was a smart move by Reed, actually. I think if Megan's smart, I think what she's doing is she's setting herself up
Starting point is 02:03:03 and I hate to use this as an example, but it's the only one where Barbara, Barbara Walters was the one that you wanted to have to do the definitive interview with. Yeah. And if she continues down this path that that's what she will become.

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