The Glenn Beck Program - The Pandemic of Fear | Guests: Rep. Rodney Davis & Darren Beattie | 1/6/22
Episode Date: January 6, 2022Glenn discusses the never-ending fearmongering from the Left. A year after the Capitol riot, Glenn reminds us who Americans truly are. The New York Times released a hit piece on Glenn, so Glenn sets t...he record straight. Glenn takes calls from listeners discussing President Trump. Former Duke professor Darren Beattie joins to discuss the infamous Ray Epps and his involvement with January 6 and the FBI. Stu shares some of Glenn’s commentary on the days leading up to January 6, which paints a different picture from what the New York Times wants you to believe. Rep. Rodney Davis joins Glenn to discuss the Democrats blocking access to January 6 records. Stu reviews Glenn Beck’s interview with Donald Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Yesterday I was diagnosed with having COVID, so I am broadcasting from home, my man cave,
today, because it's January 6, and there is just too much to talk about on January 6th.
The record really needs to be set straight.
And if you missed last night's interview with Donald Trump,
I think it was one of the better interviews he's done.
And you will feel very optimistic.
I wanted to point out a couple of things that came out in the interview
that maybe you missed.
We'll do that coming up.
And I want to hear from you about the Trump interview
if you watched it last night.
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But we start with January 6.
in 60 seconds.
So, you know, we were just listening to Chad Prather on Blaze TV.
He does a show on Blaze TV and podcasts.
He's very, very funny.
But he also did a great monologue on how many things we were supposed to die of.
All the fear mongering that has gone on for a long time.
In fact, can we play that real quick?
Here's Chad Prather.
Listen.
They have us under the terrain.
Look at all the crap they've been peddling for years now.
Just health, technology, all the things they've used to scare us.
In 2000, Y2K was going to destroy civilization.
In 2001, we were all going to die from anthrax.
In 2002, West Nile virus was going to kill us all.
In 2003, SARS was going to wipe us out in 2005.
It was the bird flu we were worrying about.
In 2006, e-coli was definitely going to get us.
In 2008, none of us were going to survive the market collapse.
In 2009, it was swine flu that was going to kill us in 2012.
The mine calendar.
The same calendar ran out. Remember that? The end was at hand. In 2013, North Korea was going
to start World War III. In 2014, none of us were going to survive the outbreak of Ebola.
In 2015, Donald Trump was going to get us into a war with the entire world. In 2016,
of the Zika virus didn't kill us, then ISIS would. In 2018, it was climate change that was
shutting us down. In 2020 to present day, of course, you know it was the novel coronavirus
and all of its subsequent variants that had our number. The only thing that has remained the same
through all of this is fear.
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today to have been diagnosed with COVID, which is much less than it was the first time I had COVID
before there was a vaccine. And I'll get into this here in a minute because I think it's important
that you understand what's really going on with COVID. And it looks like I think we're going to
end up being the ones that were right this whole time. But we'll get into that little later on in the
program. It is January 6th. And I really wanted to start with, you know, letting,
letting America know who we are. And I don't mean you. You know who we are. I mean letting people
know in the media and the left. Now, I shouldn't say the left. Democrats. Democrats. Because I don't,
I think there's a ton of Democrats right now that are tired of all this stuff. They're not
leftist Marxist. They're not.
And I feel like they're trapped and they don't know what to do because they don't necessarily
trust our side, but they don't trust their side. And so we have to lead by example.
I want to shock our detractors today. CNN predicted today will be about division and President
Biden in the left will deliver solemn remarks while former President Trump of the right going
spin justifications for the actions of January 6th. No, I'm not going to do that. There is no justification
for January 6th. There isn't. It was wrong. Period. Enough said. Like every major conservative voice,
I have and continue to openly and clearly condemn what happened on January 6th. At the heart of the
conservative movement, we honor our institutions. We don't believe in resorting to violence.
We were the victims.
We were the ones trying to stand up and say,
please stop the riots on the street all during the summer.
We don't believe in employing chaos to achieve our goals.
That's not who we are.
We treat each other peacefully and decently.
Most of the country is not like the coast.
It's not like L.A.
It's not like Portland.
And it's not like New York or Boston or Philadelphia.
it's really more like Florida Florida is kind of a purplish state and everybody kind of gets along
you know everybody's like hey I don't you know I don't care who you voted for you know don't
don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you what to do we believe in treating each other
decently and any outlet trying to paint a different picture of us or you is desperately clinging
to a division that just doesn't exist.
Today is a really important day, as a reminder,
look what happens when somebody loses control.
Look what happens when somebody raises up, rises up in violence.
The left has been begging for us to do it,
and I think they're, well, we'll get into that here in a second,
but they need us to be violent.
They want us to be hateful.
And when we're not, their understanding of us collapses.
well let it collapse let it because because those those that say we are violent
they don't understand us they don't know us that's not who we are
to anyone who wants to drown us in division no I won't be a part of it
for anybody who wants the anniversary of January 6 to be a reminder of how low we went
we say January 6th will be the day that we go high.
It'll be the day that we promote peace, understanding, civility, and our constitutional rights.
For anybody who works to stoke our anger to turn us against one another,
let January 6 be a reminder.
They failed.
And they'll always fail because anger and hate and division are fickle.
motivators. Peace is eternal and peace always wins. You want us angry? Go ahead. I'm not going to bow to you.
You want us divided? Well, that's fine. I'm going to love my neighbor anyway. You want us to condone
violence and chaos? No, we won't. And we'll be clear. So today we should look at January 6 as a marker in time to now
use this as a day to unite. Because on January 6th last year, 99.9% of the country agreed.
It's exactly what happened with BLM. When we first saw the police officer put his knee on the neck,
we were all like, that's wrong. That's wrong. But they used it to divide us anyway. And to hype up
that half of America agreed with the police officer.
No, that wasn't true.
And the same thing with January 6th.
So do something nice today.
Do something for a neighbor.
Give your server an extra big tip today.
Smile at the stranger that you pass.
Because that's who we really are about.
That's who we are.
We'll define today.
And we'll define it with kindness and love and just being an American.
That's the important thing today.
but it's also important to set the record straight.
You know, just because you love somebody doesn't mean that you don't point out where they have it wrong.
And I'm not pointing out to the New York Times where they have it wrong because that would take far too long.
But the great arbiter of all truth, the New York Times, published an article yesterday with the headline,
election falsehoods surged on podcasts before capital riots researchers find.
What is this story about?
Well, I'll tell you, this story is clearly just targeting podcasts and radio.
That's all it is.
Now that they are still losing because they can't silence us, I was told, go online.
We don't want you here.
You'll have to build your own thing.
Well, I did.
Now they see how effective it is, and now they can't have us online.
Here's the subheadline.
A new study analyzed nearly 1,500 episodes showing the extent to which podcasts pushed misinformation about voter fraud.
Now, the article opens mentioning me, clearly from the outset they're accusing me of spreading election falsehoods.
It says it in the headline.
It's a pretty serious charge.
accusing me of lying to this audience about the election and voter fraud.
So with that in mind, I want to read the opening paragraph of this article from the New York Times.
Weeks before the 2020 presidential election, the conservative broadcaster, Glenn Beck,
outlined his prediction for how election day would unfold.
President Donald J. Trump would be winning that night,
but his lead would erode as dubious mail-in ballots arose.
arrived, giving Joe R. Biden Jr. an unlikely edge. Now, the next line is a quote,
that's something I said on radio in 2020. Quote, no one will believe the outcome because they've
changed the way we're electing a president this time, end quote. Now, since the New York Times
is the great arbiter of all truth, I'm almost certain that the article didn't go through any fact
check, Politifact, Snopes, any of Facebook's army of fact-checking referees. The New York Times
has one of those, getaway with our version of the truth, got free cards that they can play at any
time. But as usual, it's context that is left on the cutting room floor. Context. It's inconvenient
when it comes to character assassination attempts like this one. But here is why context always matters.
Because when something is taken blatantly out of context in order to serve your narrative, it is the equivalent of a lie.
Before I get to the context with the New York Times conveniently left on the cutting room floor, I should note that there's a new study this article references, and it's from the Brookings Institution, a century-old DC think tank.
Now, if you don't know who the Brookings Institution is, let me tell you, it is noteworthy that the former Brookings Institute,
journalist named Igor Danchenko. Do you remember who he was, still?
Igor Danchenko. No, I don't remember the name. You know the name, though, right?
I mean, it sounds familiar, but I don't remember what it was tied to. He was the man who claimed
to have knowledge about cooperation between the Trump campaign and Vladimir Putin. He's the guy
that's just been indicted. Igor Danchenko, okay? That's right. He's the guy who passed the information
to Christopher Steele.
Now he's been charged with lying to investigators about the information.
That guy came from the Brookings Institute.
It's also noteworthy that the donors include the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation,
Facebook, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Comcast, NBC Universal, BlackRock Financial,
the United Nations Foundation, the embassy of the state of Qatar, and dozens more.
So it's not really a credible operation.
But the study was ready to be released on Tuesday of this week.
And it's almost as if they were coordinating something
because the New York Times article about the study came out yesterday.
And actually, we know that New York Times got their hands on the study long before it was released
because they reached out to one of my colleagues on Monday asking us if we wanted to comment.
We didn't comment on this because
It's not my first rodeo with the New York Times, but I did provide them with full context.
And I want to show you that full context in just a second, because this is an effort to take all of us down.
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So let me give you the quote again that was in the New York Times.
No one will believe the outcome because they've changed the way we're electing a president
this time.
And they're saying that I was saying that Joe Biden is going to claim he wins
and then we can't believe it.
That's what they're claiming, I said.
Okay, scary, if that's what I meant.
The New York Times hopes that's what I meant,
but then when we corrected them,
they ran with the story anyway,
even though they know that's not true.
Because here's what the Times forgot to mention.
The quote was pulled from a segment
in which I was talking about the report from the transition integrity project.
Do you remember that?
The project got a ton of media coverage,
mostly because it predicted the end of America in all election results scenarios,
except Biden winning in a landslide.
So here's what I said on September 10, 2020, when that came out.
Listen.
Brooks has conducted war games to play out a range of election day and post-election day scenarios.
virtually all the outcomes, save one, a Biden landslide, have ended up facilitating a nightmarish fallout.
What about a Trump landslide?
I've been telling you only a landslide will do it.
A landslide of Biden or a landslide of Trump.
Otherwise, they have set this thing up that no one's going to believe the outcome.
No one will believe the outcome because they've changed the way we're electing a president this
time. So, now wait a minute. So am I hyping the Republicans up to go out for violence? Or am I saying
that it will take a landslide for either Biden or Trump, a landslide will be the only way that you'll be
able to believe it. That's an incredible. That's legitimately incredible. I mean,
usually they'll take something out of context and try to make it look like it was something that
it wasn't. This is, you're actually commenting on what was essentially a left-wing report.
It's not- And we told, we told them when we talked to them, you run with this, that's liable.
That's liable. And you better attorney up, New York Times, because that's liable. That's not what I said.
You knew it. We talked to you about it. We gave you the audio. So you knew the context. And you did it anyway.
to libel me.
So anyway,
the timing of the...
It's such a strange thing, too.
I mean, like, you know,
they are obviously trying to go after now.
Podcasts.
They've gone on and tried to ban everybody from social media.
They're done with that.
They're going after podcasts and other things now.
And that's, you know, very much in the normal left-wing playbook.
Right.
We're used to that.
But, you know, of all people, like, you've done dozens of events where all you do is
preach about Martin Luther King.
I listened to, just to go back to listen to some of it, to your January 6th morning program
before the actual events of that day occurred.
And you're saying, don't go out and cause mayhem in the streets.
You literally are advising the morning of January 6 not to do what wound up happening.
And you did that for 10 years previous as well consistently all the time.
and they try to make you out to the face of the insurrection.
It's completely insane.
It's as if they have never listened to the show in their entire lives.
Well, they have it.
More importantly, you cannot listen to the New York Times liable.
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
Let me go to Eric in Indiana.
Hello, Eric.
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
Hey, Glenn.
Thanks for having me on.
Big fan, longtime supporter.
Thank you.
Hey, I hope you feel better soon.
Thank you.
Hmm.
Is he there?
I don't know.
He does not say, if you want to be talking.
No, that's okay.
It's your turn to talk here.
I just didn't want to talk over you.
Yeah, I listened to the interview last night, Glenn.
And I just thought it was fan.
Fantastic. And it's the first time since Independence Day, 2012, where I felt truly hopeful for returning to constitutional values.
I just thought that last night was about the future. It was about unifying. And like you said, where they're constantly trying to divide us.
I mean, members of my own family, I'm vaccinated, but my daughters aren't. They won't meet with my daughters.
And so, like, we're divided. And, like, no doctor told them to do that or anything. You know, literally the press.
president did. And so I just think that Trump's interview last night was so unifying and so
inspirational that I'm fully on board now. And like during the 2016 primaries here in
Indianapolis, I went to the Ted Cruz convention where he announced Carly Fiorina as his
running mate, you know, and Trump had said things like horse face and lying Ted. I never liked
that stuff, you know, and I was always a supporter because I do feel like he had a role
as a drain the swamp kind of guy, a him in the nose, you know, fight back against the media kind of guy.
But I never saw him as the healer that you had talked about in the past and others had talked about.
But, man, that interview last night really turned me around.
I'm telling you, it wasn't since, like I said, 2012, you know, the Tea Party stuff.
I was there in D.C. on Independence Day.
I was there in D.C. on September 12th.
And, man, that was such an awesome movement.
I had such high hopes.
And it wasn't until last night, man, that Trump brought that.
back for me. And this morning, I called my dad.
And I just said, I'm on board. I said, we got to get this guy
reelected. And I think you're right. I think he's
running. I mean, watching that interview again
last night, I mean, he's running.
So I am excited. I am fired up this morning.
Yeah, that's great. I'm really glad to hear
that, Eric. You know, that was my intent.
I talked to him before we went down
there, and I said, look, you know,
everybody is
just talking to you
and we're re-litigating the past. I don't
want to talk about the past. I want to
talk about the future because I think people are looking at what's going on. Here's the really bad thing
about September 11th. Eric, thanks for your call. The bad thing about not September 11th, January 6th,
January 6th, they are now, the press is using this as a distraction on all of the really important
problems. Our schools are corruption in our FBI, the Justice Department, the Department of Education,
gas prices, meat prices, inflation,
spending out of control,
all of these things that are happening, Putin, China,
they all go to the back burner because they're focused on January 11th.
Sorry, January 6th, I can't get this date right.
January 6th, because they're focused on that,
do you know how many good, decent Democrats,
are feeling alone and feeling like, gosh, it's just me that's going through all of these things.
I guess it's, I guess that's not important.
This must be the really important thing.
They're really being screwed by the left and by the media.
And that's tragic, really tragic.
But he got on last night, and I don't know.
I'd love to hear from you if you watched it last night, 888727B.
at the end my wife said you know that's the first time I've ever I've ever seen an interview with him
where it seemed like just two people hanging out having a conversation and I felt that way as well
it was just a different interview and very very very hopeful in fact can we play if you wonder
if he is running or not can we go to the the the site where where he's where he's
He is saying it was at the very end, and I don't know if you missed this, but it was at the very end where he said, where is it, where he talked about making America great again.
Play that, please.
It's so sad our country right now.
I don't think we've ever been lower.
And despite all of the witch hunts and the phony Russia, Russia, Russia, impeachment, it was a beautiful time.
We had the greatest economy in history.
We then had the China virus come in
and then I rebuilt the economy.
I really rebuilt it twice.
The second time harder than the first.
But we had the greatest economy, the greatest everything.
It was a glamour pit.
It was a beautiful period.
And now I see what's happening with energy, with inflation,
with the military, with these clowns.
And I said, you know what?
Let's put out a book talking about how beautiful it was
because we're going to make it that way again.
What does that mean, Stu?
We made America great once.
We'll make America great again again.
Okay. To me, there is no way he's not running.
We'll play more of the interview coming up in a little while.
I was thinking about what kind of person it would take to not run if you were Donald Trump right now.
The nomination is his.
he doesn't have to do anything to get it.
He's dozens of points ahead of anyone else who would be challenging him.
Now, of course, anything can happen.
You know, you never know what the future will bring.
But he would have to basically, you know, it would be a very strong man to say,
no, I don't want this nomination unless he just thinks it's just too much of a disruption to his life.
It's his.
He doesn't have to, he doesn't have to even work for the nomination.
It's his.
So he becomes a one and two shot.
And the other person is Joe Biden probably who is terrible and is running the country into the ground.
I know you think maybe Hillary runs.
I'm sure other people will run as a challenge, especially the way this is going with Biden.
If it continues to go this poorly, he probably won't even run for re-election and they'll have to run somebody else.
So, you know, how could you resist it?
I mean, unless you just didn't think it was important.
Oh, I think you could resist it for another reason.
In the interview last night, he said, you know, I really had two jobs.
Try to get the country back on track and survive.
Yeah.
And it's true.
I mean, he was fighting for his survival every day.
Since, you know, the minute he came down the escalator, he was fighting for his own survival.
and I don't think he saw that coming.
I thought he would, I think he thought that, you know,
he'd still get the good press, blah, blah, blah.
And, you know, they would be harsh on him, but not like that.
And it's because he's an outsider.
But he was really clear.
You know, we had dinner afterwards.
And, you know, when the president,
former president says, what are you doing for dinner tonight?
The right answer is, I don't know, McDonald's.
Because that's what I see.
said, and he looked at me, he actually said, you and I, we could eat together for a very long time.
And I said, yes, we could.
Anyway, we had dinner with the First Lady.
And I think that's what wounded him deeper than anything else was the attacks on her.
So unfair and so cruel on her.
And I think, you know, for him to go back into the arena, would you, I mean, you know what it was like, Stu, when we were at Fox and literally every day we were fighting for our life.
Do you just immediately say, oh, yeah, I'd go back?
No, and that's why I said, I think the only decision for him is if it disrupts his personal life, right?
I mean, like you think of a person like Ron DeSantis who's thinking about potentially running.
he's got a million things to think about, right?
It's not just whether it disrupts his personal life,
but it's like, can I win?
Who would I be running against?
You know, do I, you know, how do I play this?
When's the right time to announce?
None of those things are factors with Trump.
All he has to do is say yes, and it's his.
You know, there's no poll that shows anyone can even come close to challenging him.
So it's just really like, okay, let me make a personal decision based on myself and my family.
what's the best thing and the country?
What do I think is the best way forward?
With everyone else, there's a million political calculations to factor in.
You also, and the number one thing you have to factor in, if you're anyone other than Donald Trump is, is Donald Trump going to run?
Because if you're Ron DeSantis and you announce, and then two weeks later, Trump announces, you are now, you know, you're the second fiddle on the ticket.
You're at best running for vice president in most circumstances.
There is, if I were thinking, which it would be crazy for me to think this, but if I were thinking, I'm Ron DeSantis, let's say it that way.
And I'm thinking, I might run for president.
There's no way, no way until I have a hard, fast, public no, from Donald Trump that he's not running.
I mean, it'll be a cruise to the nomination.
And what, of course, makes this difficult, you know, and Donald Trump knows the media.
he's obviously
very, very good at understanding
what gets attention in the media
he knows the second he gives a hard,
fast no,
a lot of his power drains away,
right?
Like he'll,
I think the kingmaker in the Republican Party
for as long as he wants to be.
But like,
you know,
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starts going away when he says,
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He's now,
now the focus goes to Ronda Santis
or who,
whoever else is going to run.
Correct.
So there's no incentive for him not to keep it alive even if he wasn't running.
But, I mean, again, everybody inside his inner circle, people who are in his inner circle
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So like if he wanted that messaging to stop, they would stop it.
Yeah.
I mean, he clearly is running.
And I think is running.
And I think that means.
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of the Republican Party than I am Joe Biden is the nominee of the Democratic Party. And he's the sitting president.
Absolutely. Yeah. Or Kamala Harris. I have no idea who they're going to run in 2024, because those two will not,
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somebody who has been investigating
Ray Epps coming up in just a few
minutes. Let me go to Linda in Florida.
Hello, Linda.
Hello. Hello.
This is Linda.
Hi. Yes, go ahead. You're on, Linda.
Yes, it is. Okay.
I have a question for you.
I've been thinking about this,
well, you know, ever since
Mr. Trump, you know, was
well, you know, his presidency was gone.
But my question to you is I did not get to see the interview last night with Mr. Trump.
But in your interview and how you had, you know, gone through the question and so,
do you see where, you know, Mr. Trump will be different in how he hands?
Of course, if he runs, I will definitely vote for him.
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himself. And I know that that's the
acting in him, because
that's what he's done.
Right.
I don't think I could speak to
how he's going to run. Donald Trump is going
to be Donald Trump. That's just
who he is. And, you know,
it's a double-edged sword.
He is
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We're going to go into Ray Epps and who this guy is.
It's really, it's, you know, let's say there is nothing to Ray Epps.
then why is the FBI and everybody else behaving the way they are?
It's like they want a conspiracy theory.
I don't know how you explain the Ray Epps situation,
but we have a guy who has been on this with the revolver for a while,
and he's probably the best on this issue.
We're going to introduce you perhaps to Ray Epps if you don't know the name,
and why his name is so important.
Then also next hour, we're going to go into Congress,
and we're going to talk to one of our leading congressmen
about the situation of the January 6th Committee.
Do you know that some people still have not had trial,
still in jail, no trial?
It's been a year.
It's been a year.
And no one has been charged with sedition.
So what exactly is going on?
I mean, I think time served is probably pretty good at this point.
Back in just a second.
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Average Americans and me, we were all horrified by January 6th.
Thought it was an abomination, thought it was dangerous and stupid politically.
But the New York Times and others are making this into something that it is not.
So let's get some of the facts down.
We have a guest.
He was a former professor at Duke.
University, former speech writer for the White House and the founder of Revolver.
Dot News.
He's been following the story of Ray Epps.
Why can't we get any answers on this one?
We go there in 60 seconds.
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So let's go to Darren.
Darren Beatty.
He is a former professor, Duke University,
former White House speechwriter,
and the founder of Revolver News.
The anniversary of January 6th.
So let's get an update from Darren.
Hi, Darren.
Hey, thanks for having me again.
You bet.
So I wanted to talk to you because the press is making it
that there's all kinds of conspiracy theories
that the right is buying into conspiracy theories about this.
I don't know what the truth is.
I just know that there are a few things that don't make any sense.
First of all, it's the worst one ever,
and yet nobody has been charged with sedition or anything like it.
And then you have players like Ray Epps.
Can we play the audio here of Ray Epps?
Listen the audio.
In fact, tomorrow, I don't even like to say it because I'll be arrested.
Well, let's not say it.
We need to go, I'll say it.
We need to go in to the capital.
Let's go!
I'm going to put it out there.
I'm probably going to go to jail for.
Tomorrow, we need to go into the capital.
Into the capital.
So here he is talking clearly about going into the capital.
Capitol. He is stirring people up the night before in this last clip where he was saying that.
You could hear them saying FBI Stoge, FBI Plant. But he was on a most wanted list and then
nothing happened. Can you tell me the story about this? Yeah. I mean, here's a remarkable case,
this individual, Ray Absin, just to give a bit fuller context for what his involvement was,
He's not only ubiquitous the evening before January 6th, going to multiple different groups with multiple different agendas, and really corraling them and focusing them on this new and utterly bizarre mission to go into the Capitol.
And you hear a little bit about how people's reactions.
What are you talking about?
Fed, you're a Fed.
He remained persistent.
He went to every different group and he focused them on this mission to go into the Capitol.
And what's important to say is that this isn't just some random drunk on the evening of January 5th that we never heard from again.
He followed up on this stated mission the next day on January 6th.
He's a veritable where's Waldo?
And if your listeners go to Revolver.com news and read the first Ray Epps report, we have tons of video evidence documenting his every move on January 6th.
teeth everywhere, and he's telling the crowd, after Trump's speech is over, we're all going to
the Capitol. That's where our problems are. Our enemy is the Capitol. And sure enough, at 1253 p.m.,
crucial to note, Trump is still speaking at this time. But at 1253 p.m., Ray Epps is not at the Trump
speech. He flew to D.C. all the way from Arizona. He's wearing a Trump hat, but he's not
the Trump speech. What's more important to him is he's right there by the metal barricade and he
whispers into someone's ear and two seconds later that someone engages in the first and decisive
and fateful breach to the Capitol grounds that starts the whole thing off. This is the same guy
who the previous evening was telling everyone we need to go into the Capitol. Initially, as you
point out, the FBI thought he was an important enough to include him as one of the 20
most wanted January 6 offenders, they said, we need to identify him. Well, then the internet
identified him and the Fed's FBI cricket until Revolver. News ran a piece basically implicating
the FBI in January 6th. And the day after this came out, the feds quietly scrubbed EPS's name
and its face from their public database. And since then, the only thing that any official FBI
agent has said about Ray Epps is to deny all knowledge of his existence.
So we have the tape.
Yeah.
Can you, can you, can, are we ever going to get an answer on, on this?
Is there any, any movement on this?
Yes, that's an excellent question.
I'm really glad that you asked that because obviously this is very important to me.
It's very important to the country.
And we're not going to get any answer from.
A.G. Merrick Garland, who's been a mop-up boy for precisely these types of said infiltration operations going back decades.
We're not going to get any answers from the sham exercise in political theater that is the January 6th committee.
The only place we're going to get answers, I think there are two possibilities if we're going to get ultimate answers at all.
One possibility, and this might sound crazy, but I've become very familiar with the way that these said operations,
work. And a lot of times the higher-up handlers of people like Ray Epps, they think of them as pawn.
And Ray Epps may have been tricked in some capacity. Maybe he was told that the reason that he was
doing what he was doing was for something that turned out to be not the case. Maybe he feels like
he was misled. Maybe he didn't really fully understand that he was going to be used as an
instrument in an agenda to label half the country as domestic terrorists.
But for whatever reason, Reheps or many of the other actors who are clearly feds or fed informants,
they can step up, they have the power to expose their handlers and to break the case wide open.
So that's one option.
The second option is the defense attorneys for the defendants in January 6 cases.
And on this, I'm cautiously optimistic.
One defense attorney for Kelly Meggs, who is a oathkeeper defendant, has on the basis of Revolver.
Dot News's reporting, issued a subpoena demanding the testimony from Ray Epps and Stuart Rhodes,
who is the founder and leader of the Oathkeeper's Militia Group, who's also curiously uncharged.
And so one of two things can happen.
Either the subpoena goes through and they actually do have to testify under oath, in which case that can be extremely interesting.
Or in the case of agents and informants, the government has the power to block subpoena.
And if the government steps in and intervenes and somehow blocks the subpoenas, that would be unfortunate.
But the very act of blocking it itself indicates that there's something they really don't want us to hear,
which gives us additional information as well.
So I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens with the defense attorneys,
really embracing the potential entrapment case,
understanding that the fact that you had instigators who are very likely feds
is exculpatory information on the part of their clients and the defendants in these cases.
Darren, I can't thank you enough for all of the work that you have done at revolver.
dot news on on this subject i don't know how it ends i don't know who he was uh but if you are looking
for somebody who was the instigator uh and had a plan he seems to be the number one candidate
um you know not people on talk radio or podcasts who are saying hey we've got a you know fight
fight let me um let me ask you what we do know about him where does he where does he where
Where does he come from?
What does he do?
What's his history?
Well, he has an interesting background.
Like many people who end up becoming sort of jobbers and contractors for this type of work,
he does have a military background.
He's a Marine.
He also has a background as the president of the Arizona chapter of the Oathkeeper's Militia Group.
And those familiar with Revolver.
Dot News's reporting will see that the Oathkeepers is the most.
heavily prosecuted, quote-unquote, boogeyman militia group associated with one-six.
And it's a whole other thread that we've investigated and reported on that a lot of the
oath keepers people who are underlings who are being hit with very serious charges,
they're being hit with conspiracy charges.
And when you look at the charging documents, the charging documents cite the words and
the actions and the behaviors of Stuart Rhodes, who's the founder and head of.
of it who, for whatever reason, is not only uncharged a year later, a year later, he hasn't even
been subject to a proper search. The only search that he's been projected to was a single
cell phone four months after January 6th. And so it just happens to be the case that Ray Epps
was the president of the Arizona chapter of this very same militia group. And we have all kinds
of footage of him powing around with Stuart Rhodes as well, which is the president of the Arizona chapter of this very same militia group. And we have all kinds of
footage of him powing around with Stuart Rhodes as well, which is an interesting, an interesting
connection to say the least. There is at least really heavy smoke, whether there is a fire
there, and he is the center of it. I don't know. But there are, there are questions that must be
answered by the government on this. Let me take a quick one minute break. And then I want to come up,
and I want to talk to you about the surveillance tapes. And also, whatever happened to find
the people who planted the alleged pipe bombs outside of the RNC and DNC on the evening of January 5th.
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Let me go to Darren Beatty. He is the former professor at Duke University, former White House
speechwriter, and he started revolver.com. And we've been talking about the January 6th
debacle and what's coming of this investigation. First of all, how many people have yet to be
charged and are in jail a year later. Do you have any idea, Darren? I don't know the exact number,
but the number is definitely greater than zero. There are definitely people who have been wallowing
away under atrocious conditions, some cases solitary confinement and such. And that really goes
to show the other side of the coin to the fact that people like Ray Epps and Stuart Rhodes are
uncharged. The other side of the coin is that just, you know, very small fish are being given the most
draconian, almost third world Abu Ghraib type treatment imaginable on the basis of extremely
trivial offenses if they're offenses at all and not even given the opportunity for speedy trial
or anything. And there are several cases that I'm familiar with of people put in those positions
has taken a long time to be granted bail, if they're granted bail at all.
And so it's really, it's shameful, and it really goes to underscore how bizarre and inexplicable
and really even scandalous the selective non-prosecution is for people like Ray F's,
who happens to be the only person in the mountains of footage that exists on 1-6,
calling explicitly for this mission to go into the Capitol, and he remains untouched.
Tell me about the pipe bombs.
The night before somebody apparently put pipe bombs at the DNC and RNC.
What do we know about that now a year later?
You know, that's a very interesting question.
I'm glad that this is sort of the interest in this has resurrected on the anniversary
because there are a couple of things to say about this.
One is just curious, I'm not making so much of it.
It's just an interesting incidental detail, is that,
the authorities caught wind of these pipe bombs basically just as that initial Ray Epps breach of the metal barricade to the capital occurred around 1253 p.m.
And so whether it was intended to be this or not, it was almost a perfect diversionary tactic to get already scarce law enforcement personnel away from the capital, away from that initial breach site,
in order to attend to this bomb scare at the RNC and DNC.
So the timing there is really interesting, and I'll just leave it at that and allow people to infer as they will.
What else is important about this is that, okay, the FBI is put on this act,
the same way they put on the act with EPS saying, we need your help identifying EPS.
We please help us.
We just have no idea who this is.
Then Epps is identified like two days later and they do nothing with it.
They did this similar charade with this pipe bomb.
They released this grainy video.
They clearly have more video than they're giving out.
But for whatever reason, they're so interested in catching the people and all they'll release is this ridiculous grainy footage that's clearly nowhere near all the footage that they have.
They haven't released the forensics.
They haven't released if they have any fingerprints, nothing.
They give us this grainy footage and this act.
like, oh, please, please help us identify this person.
Well, if you want us to identify it, then release all the footage that you know that you have.
At revolver.combe, if people go there, they can see our extensive report on the pipe bomb that goes into details.
That's how we know that they have more footage than they're releasing.
And just another really interesting tidbit about this.
The individual, the representative of the FBI that's calling for the public to help identify
this so-called pipe bomber.
His name was Stephen D. Antoine.
Now, the interesting thing about this individual
is that before he was in his position
at the D.C. field office,
he ran the Detroit FBI field office.
The reason that's significant is that means
that he was the guy that ran the infiltration operation
in this so-called Michigan kidnapping plot.
He was the head.
head of the Detroit field office as that was happening.
And we now know that this basically was a trial run for January 6th in the sense that it involved
the same plot, basically, in this case, to storm the Michigan state capital.
It involved one of the key militia groups also imputed to 1-6, namely the three percenters.
And now we know for a fact that 12 out of the 26 so-called plotters were either federal
agents or federal informants.
And the guy who ran that input.
operation is the same guy calling for the public saying,
please help us identify these type bombers.
It's like you can't even make this up.
Darren, Darren Beatty, you can find his reporting at revolver.
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You know, it's really telling when you talk about Ray Epps and you look at what, about 600 people
have been arrested, Stu?
Yeah, six or 700 I thought it was.
Yeah.
Six or 700.
Okay.
So you have this number of people that have been arrested.
and none of them have been charged with insurrection or sedition or anything like that.
It's criminal trespass, et cetera, et cetera.
It's an assault on a police officer.
All those things I'm totally cool with.
You go to jail.
You do that.
You go to jail.
It's consistent with my view on the riots with BLM.
You burn down a building.
You go to jail for that.
Not on a political charge.
You go to jail for breaking the law of burning down buildings.
robbing stores, et cetera, et cetera.
So I have no problem with that.
But when you look at the charges in the last year that have come out,
they don't match with the fairy tale that this was the worst terrorist attack
or the worst attack on America since the Civil War.
It clearly was not because no one, you know,
the New York Times is running stories now of people they interviewed.
And when they interviewed today was a guy who,
was a Democrat, but was there.
A registered Democrat.
He spent three months in jail.
Go ahead.
Registered Democrat, a lifelong Democrat by his telling, that was not planning to go
to the Trump speech, decided to go kind of last minute.
He's within a train ride of New York or of Washington, D.C.
He went down to the speech, kind of got caught.
What he said, I got kind of caught up in the herd.
We all sort of went towards the Capitol.
He said he didn't even know Congress was in session.
and he was really, you know, overt about that.
He said, the one thing I really want you to believe is that I didn't even know they were in session.
Like, he's like, it was just like, I thought we were at a speech and we went in there.
And there wasn't like, I think if I walked in and there was somebody right at the door saying,
get out, turn around, I probably would have.
But there wasn't.
We kind of all just walked in.
I was walking around taking pictures of the Capitol.
And, you know, it seems he did eventually have an altercation with a police officer.
where he sort of undersold how serious it was.
They found more video of it.
And they wound up putting him in jail for three months for that incident.
And, you know, if he was he kind of thing.
Why was he doing that?
He's a Democrat.
Yeah, he was, you know, he was a Democrat.
He did have some social media postings about, you know,
believing in, you know, some of the theories on the election.
And he had seemingly, you know, Trump had a lot of Democratic supporters.
You know what I mean?
He basically said he sort of turned,
he was a Democrat but wound up liking Trump a lot, basically.
He's the one guy that's going to talk.
He sort of explained that in the interview.
But what was interesting is like, you know,
if you went to a bar and you were causing a ruckus in a bar
and a police officer showed up and you threw a punch at a police officer,
let's just say, you might go to jail for three months for that.
And that's what they, the overall.
overwhelming majority of these of these charges are which are people who did something that they
probably shouldn't have done certainly shouldn't have done in some cases and wound up with mild
punishments that are pretty much what you'd expect in a normal circumstance it's not sedition
you know there there may very well be some people it does seem that like really had these
ideas you mentioned epps before who was actually we don't know his whole story obviously but
was actually saying those types of things in advance.
He may see those charges.
You'd have to think that, right.
You'd have to think those charges, though, are more time-consuming to actually put together, right?
Like, yes, having a person say something on tape is a big piece of evidence, but if it's tied
into some larger, bigger conspiracy with bigger players that were really trying to overturn
the election or stop Congress, that's going to be a more complicated case to prove than someone
walking in and getting in a fight with an officer.
The bottom line, though, is that
the problem here is this
fairy tale that this is
the worst thing since the Civil War.
Paraphrasing, I think it was Yuval of In who said,
like, it's very easy to overestimate January 6th
and to underestimate January 6th.
It wasn't nothing. It wasn't like a bunch of people
touring the Capitol. It also wasn't the worst thing since the Civil
War. And we have to recognize that.
It is what it is. And 99% of Americans
all said the same thing on January 6th.
Stop it.
I was in a room full of people as we were watching it unfold.
I immediately, I think, I immediately got online and said, this has got to stop, got to stop.
You did.
I mean, you know, this idea that somehow or another, it's a grand conspiracy.
And yet, you know, Sean Hannity is reaching out to the president saying, you got to stop them.
Don Jr.
Don Jr. is doing it.
I mean, where's the conspiracy here?
They obviously thought it was terrible and wanted it to stop, and that was happening not only in public, but behind the scenes.
But I will say to your point, Glenn, yes, you did say right after the event that this was a bad thing.
But it's amazing, like looking at, you know, the New York Times tried to did a hit piece on you and some others saying you're this big lead insurrectionist because of you talking about a left-wing report in September.
well before the election even happened, let alone the insurrection.
But you also said this consistently for years and years and years that we needed to act like Martin Luther King and understand that if we have outbursts of violence or anger, they will be used against us.
You have to avoid them at all costs.
You did that for a long time.
These events, the event you did in Birmingham was all about that specific thing leading up to this.
Then I remember you on the day before January 6th, so January 5th, talking about the event that was coming the next day.
I believe we have that audio.
I know people who are going to Washington.
I know people who feel passionately about what's happening in our country.
But I don't know any of them that want to start a war, want to start a fight, want to be beat up in the streets or beat people up in the streets.
that's just not who we've we've ever been now there might be some people uh that are going in support of
you know stop the steel that do feel that way but they're in the vast minority but those people
if they engage with antifa or whatever those are the people that are going to be seen on television
and that will be the poster child of whatever we're doing there's a couple of things that you should do
if you are going to march in activities like this.
And the first thing is you have to really kind of channel your inner Martin Luther King
and know that the people that are there against you are there to make you do something
that you either don't want to do or really, really, really want to,
but your better angels keep you on that path, and so you don't.
They are there to poke you with sticks.
They're provocateurs.
If you are going to go into a political activity,
do not engage people that are on the streets yelling at you.
Don't debate them.
There is no reason to debate.
They are not, you're not going to change their mind.
they are not shouting things at you because they think,
whoa, that person looks like he's going to be open-minded
and maybe he'll come over to our side.
You'll understand what we're talking about.
That's not what they're there for.
They are there to harass you.
It's a deliberate technique intended to take your participation and sideline it.
Don't pause.
To stop, don't do anything.
Just keep you and your friends marching.
Now, it sounds simple to decline to engage with morons from Antifa.
But it is actually difficult in practice because they are trained in direct action techniques.
They have studied this.
You haven't.
They have studied direct action techniques.
They can get police officers who are really well trained, just a snap.
And police officers have been trained in direct action techniques.
They know what Antifa is doing.
They're prepared mentally for it.
It could catch you off guard.
Don't let it.
Don't let it affect you or anyone around you and make sure everyone around you.
everyone around you is working together.
You grab arms and link arms and you pull each other out of that.
Otherwise, you are going to be the only thing that the media will show and it will delegitimize everything you came to support.
Okay, so that's the day before.
Yeah, there's a day before.
And what's interesting about that is obviously, like, you were more warning against a street,
battle of some sort
because that was just what you know
you thought might happen there might be a group
protest the anti-protesters and they could start a fight
throw you off only throw you off the scent
because you know right was in the planning committee
so right but I mean again
you you are the subject of a
the paragraph one
subject of a story about the lead
insurrectionist podcasters
and you the day before
January 6 said to
channel your inner Martin Luther
King. Wouldn't it be interesting if you also happen to say it the morning before the January
6 events occurred? This is the morning of January 6th. Here's more audio for you. You have to be able
to fight with wisdom. You have to be able to, you can't just go out into the streets and cause
mayhem. That is not what Martin Luther King did. It's not. You know, and we're missing a lot of
Martin Luther King ideas that actually changed the world because it's the same thing that Gandhi did.
But how many of us? How many of us are willing to say, you know what? I'm no longer putting my
money into this product or these people. I'm not going to do it. And a real sacrifice. And when I say
a real sacrifice, I mean, I'm not going to put my money into, you know, Netflix or I'm not going to
put my money into big mobile or whatever it is, how many are willing to make just that sacrifice
for their freedom? So that's the morning of January 6th from this program. And you're saying
we should emulate MLK and Gandhi. On January 6th, you're saying that before any of this stuff
happens and they put you in the first paragraph of a insurrectionist article in the New York Times.
Of course. I praised it. Yeah. I praised it. I praised it.
the next day, didn't I?
No, you did not.
Do we have enough time for another clip or not?
Because we do have one from January 7th,
if we want to go into that.
Go ahead.
When people have lost their jobs
are living in states
where there's draconian
measures,
they've been told to shut their business down,
and they've been told to pipe down
because you want to kill grandma.
Meanwhile,
people like Cuomo are actually
killing
grandma and grandpa.
When people have done
everything they can
and actually started
in my example
started
from the premise that
yeah Donald Trump probably
was working with the Russians.
Yeah, well
if he was doing something
he should go to jail and then
actually did the work
and found out the exact opposite
was true. And the more
you found out, the more you realized, the entire government seemed to be in on it. The FBI knew that this was a
plan from Clinton. They knew it, and they did nothing. And when you expose it, no one goes to
jail. When people feel as though their voice is being silenced, that even their own representatives,
from their own party, treat them like garbage, when they've been called racist, bigots,
when they've been called conspiracy theorists over things like the Hunter Biden laptop,
that now the press says, oh, I guess there is something there, but we all feel that nothing will ever happen.
What are they supposed to do?
Now, here's, let me make this very clear.
They are not supposed to get violent.
We have a right of free speech of petitioning our government.
We have a right to demand answers, but we don't destroy the capital.
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If you missed last night's Trump interview on my Wednesday night special, you really missed something great, I think.
Very, very hopeful, positive, looking towards the future.
Stu and I will go over that coming up later in the second half of next hour, go through some of the audio from the Trump interview.
But we want to spend one more break here on.
on January 6th and set the record straight.
The House Republicans are wondering why the Democrats
are blocking so many records related to January 6th,
and they're demanding some answers.
Will they get them?
Talk to a guy from Illinois,
the Congressman from Illinois, Rodney Davis,
who is leading the charge.
I have COVID, and so I'm going to kind of hang back a little bit here for the next hour.
It's weird.
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that I had beat me up.
Yeah, that hit you really hard, right?
Yeah, that hit me really hard.
I mean, I was not, I didn't have my energy back for a couple of weeks.
You know, there's no way on the last COVID I could have done a show.
No way.
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So, anyway, I appreciate your prayers.
It is, it is, it is appreciated.
Now if anybody can get me some Ivermectin, that would be.
Actually, I don't think that works for this new Omnacron, does it?
I don't know.
I haven't seen much on that.
But, you know, there is all sorts of stuff.
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One of them does, but it's the one in the least supply.
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I'll say that.
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It's fascinating to me that on 9-11, within a week, we knew who all the hijackers were,
we knew their connections, we knew where everything was coming from, within a week.
Now we have the worst attack on the Capitol in all of American history a year ago today,
and we still don't have any idea what's gone on.
We have not found the ring leaders, I think, because there weren't any ring leaders.
They're still talking about we're going to prosecute everyone to the fullest extent,
even if they were just at the Capitol walking around.
Nobody's been charged with insurrection or sedition.
So what's really going on here?
And how is it that a year later, we still don't know?
And why is it that Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats are not releasing the tapes
and any kind of record leading up to January 6th.
We're going to talk to a guy who's demanding that answer from Nancy Pelosi and others,
and he's in Congress himself from Illinois.
Congressman Rodney Davis joins us in 60 seconds.
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So we have Rodney Davis on with us. He's a congressman from Illinois.
He has just written a strongly worded letter, which I've always loved when it comes to the
United Nations. But I don't know if he's going to get any answers on this. I hope he does.
He's written a letter to Nancy Pelosi, and he's here to tell us the
answers he's demanding, along with other Republicans.
Congressman, how are you, sir?
I'm doing great, Glenn. Thanks for having me on.
You bet. You bet. Okay, so what are the things you're asking for in this letter from Nancy Pelosi?
Well, number one, Glenn, you know, Republicans condemned the violence that took place a year ago.
That was unanimous. But here we are today, still left wondering, what did the sergeant-at-arms of the House,
the lead law enforcement official appointed directly by the Speaker.
What did he do in preparation leading up to January 6th?
There has been conflicting testimony, and all I've ever asked for as the lead Republican
on the respective oversight committee is just to get the communications.
We want to know what preparations were made.
And the only person standing in the way of us getting the communications from her own
appointee who controls the House security operations is Speaker Pelosi.
Okay, so you're not asking for anything special.
You sit on the Oversight Committee.
You are the lead opposition, so you, of course, are going to ask for these things.
You've just asked for the emails and the transmissions back and forth on preparations for January 6th.
Now, I've talked to Donald Trump.
He said that he offered the National Guard to Washington.
I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what he's.
said, but he said he was turned down. Nancy Pelosi, did they turn help down?
Well, that's what we don't know. And it's ironic, Glenn, that you've got U.S. citizens who no
longer look for government, volunteering to turn over thousands of communications, text, emails,
letters, et cetera, to the January 6th Select Committee. But Speaker Pelosi will not even turn over
the communications of her own appointee, who's in charge.
of security on the House side of the Capitol.
And he's a government employee.
He was, the current government employee that she appoints,
will also not turn that information over to us.
The question is, what is she hiding?
And we can get a lot of answers
based on conflicting testimony
in front of the Senate investigation
almost just under a year ago.
And we ought to be able to get the answers
because the American people deserve to know
why the security posture was so bad.
And frankly, Glenn, I don't think it's any better today if we were to go through another event like we did.
I don't think so either.
I mean, unless you're coming in disguised as COVID.
Congressman, let me ask you, are you going to be able to get any of these answers?
I mean, it seems that bad people do bad things all over the country now, and nobody's ever held accountable.
Is there any teeth that can be engaged to get the Speaker to comply?
Well, unfortunately, the House is a very majority-driven institution.
And remember, the Capitol Police Chief cannot make a single security decision
without going to Speaker Pelosi's appointed Sergeant-at-Arms.
That's her own political appointee.
You know what I'm going to get this information?
It's when I'm the chairman of the House administration committee, when Republicans take over Congress in November of 2022.
And I have laid out that I am serious.
I want all of these communications at that time.
And if they are destroyed or they no longer exist when I get there, I will hold as chairman of the House admin committee anyone who's responsible for that criminally accountable.
And you will be able to do that.
Absolutely, I will.
and I dare them to try and not preserve those communications,
and I dare them to test me on that.
So, Congressman, explain what the end game here is.
I mean, I just can't figure out unless they really truly believe
they're going to have power till the end of time.
This is all going to come out at some point.
What is the end game here that you think they're playing?
I wish I could get into their minds and find.
out what their endgames are, but all they do is play political games. And this is where the
speaker likes to deflect that she has no jurisdiction over the Capitol Security. We all know
that's BS. Her own legislative council, general counsel, is the one that's telling the sergeant
at arms that he cannot turn this information over to us. After conflicting testimony in the Senate
between then Sergeant in Arms, Paul Irving, and then police chief, Steve's son, who are no longer
in their jobs. The current Sergeant in Arms,
will not turn this over. Their end game is to delay and deflect. And then when we do take the
majority, my goal is to make sure that we get the answers we need because my job, as the
leader of Republican on this House admin committee and as the future chairman of that committee,
is to make sure the security posture of the Capitol never fails again.
Congressman, I talked to the president last night, did an interview with him. And I gave him a list of
all of the agencies that need to be cleared out from top to bottom.
And it's going to take enormous courage to clean this nest of vipers out.
And it's going to take partners to do it as well.
The people that have power, all that anyone wants, I think, both Republican and Democrat,
all that people want is that if you actually,
actually did something that you pay a price. Like I have no problem with people who broke into the
Capitol did damage or whatever. I have no problem charging them and having them go to jail for a few
months, not political, but because they broke other laws. The same needs to go for the people in
Congress. Do you believe the Republicans have the spine and the cleanliness, if you will, to be able
to take this up against them?
You know, I can't speak for anybody else in Congress
except for myself, Glenn, and I can tell you
that I will do everything within the power of my committee
as the chair of the House admin committee
to hold them criminally accountable,
especially if they do not abide by our preservation request.
So yes, I do believe the Republicans as a whole
can hold the Democrats accountable,
but I can only do what my job is,
And my job on this particular committee is to make sure that the capital is safe.
And also when we take over, I'll make sure the capital's open again so that people and student groups can come back and see what the capital and the entire complex is all about.
One last question.
I don't know if you have the answer to this or looked into it.
We can't seem to get any information.
It's like Gitmo.
We can't seem to get any real information from anybody about how many people,
are still being held that haven't been either charged or tried.
We don't know the conditions that these people are living in who were arrested last year.
Is there any way to get that information?
Well, yes, when we take over the House and we have Chairman Jim Jordan of the Judiciary Committee,
we have Chairman Jamie Comer of the Oversight Committee,
and me on House administration, you know what we're going to do?
going to ask for those officials responsible for what we've seen, even the judicial branch say,
hang on a second, something's not right here at the D.C. prison facility. We're going to have to
have them come in and testify. The Democrats don't want to hear from them. And remember, the only
office that has been declared off limits for this January 6th Select Committee is Nancy Pelosi's
office. When you look at the Capitol Police, it is run by Nancy Pelosi. It is a, it's the tool, if you will,
or the police force for the House majority leader. I cannot think of a reason why our founders
did it that way. Maybe, maybe they just trusted that, you know, people would always be on the up and up.
but do you have any idea what's going on with the Capitol Police and their new approach to being an intelligence arm of our government?
Well, the Intelligence Division of the Capitol Police is one of the main divisions that failed leading up to January 6th.
Evidence clearly shows that they were given direct intelligence from the Norfolk FBI office that said an imminent attack on the Capitol may be forthcoming.
The police chief of the Capitol Police at the time didn't even have that intelligence.
intelligence. I spoke with him the day after and the multiple days after. And this is a problem
that has yet to be fixed in my opinion. But here's the state court, right? That capital police
she can't make security decisions on his own. It's got to go through the political appointee,
the sergeant at arms. One, one last question. Should the capital police be something that could be
FOIA because we can't even have a Freedom of Information Act that they respond to because they
fall into a different category that is controlled by the Speaker of the House. I don't think that's
good for the Republicans or the Democrats or independents to ever have that. Should this police
force be able to be foyed? Well, you know what? I'm glad you brought that up, Glenn, because long
before January 6th, when I took over to lead a Republican House administration committee,
I introduced a bill to reform the processes that the Capitol Police follow, make them more transparent, make them more accountable.
And I did not get that bill even in one committee hearing or be able to have one markup of it, be able to debate the need to open up and make the Capitol Police more transparent.
And I'll do that as the chairman.
Representative Congressman Rodney Davis from Illinois
Rodney, when you become the chairman,
you call me and I will do everything I can
to rally the troops to make sure you can change this
with the Capitol Police.
I think with them being a secretive operation,
it is a very, very dangerous thing to the Republic.
So thank you so much for your hard work.
Well, thank you, Glenn. Take care.
You bet. Bye-bye.
Rodney Davis, Congress,
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ID. So I'm about out of steam. I'm going to let you kind of take the reins here a bit, and I'll
sit back a little bit, but we want to talk about Donald Trump, the interview that happened last
night. I thought it was an exceptional interview, and I'm not saying that because I did it. I think
it was exceptional because Donald Trump, his answers were hopeful and clear. Yeah, I think we're going
to play some of the audio here of that in just a few minutes and kind of go through what
you know, what he was going on about because your focus there was very much on the future and what is coming next.
There's an article in Rolling Stone today.
The title was Rolling Stone.
From wind power killing all your birds to fake California gas prices, Trump talks everything.
But January 6th in the Glenbeck interview, which is fascinating.
Of course, you said multiple times on the air that you were not asking him about that because you didn't want to rehash the past.
going into the future. They may have missed those shows, though. Yeah. Well, I will tell you,
my producers wrote up a bunch of questions for January 6th, and I decided beforehand, you know,
to have them just in case I wanted to go there, but I really wanted to focus on the future. And I was
hoping that I would get a few extra minutes at the end that we could tag on on that, but didn't
think it was even necessary. You know, the right and the left, look at January 6th,
very differently. I don't like the way that Donald Trump handled January 6th, but I don't think he plotted it.
I don't think he planned it. I don't think he wanted, you know, people to be hung in the streets or anything
like that. That's just not who he is. But, you know, they can harp on it all they want. I think America is
much more interested in looking to who is going to lead us to the next level here.
Yeah, I think that's what people are looking forward to.
Now, look, I think there's interesting things on January 6th that we still need to learn.
We were just talking to the congressman about what those things might be.
What information don't we have?
And I think in a real world with a real civilized, competent government,
there could be a real use for a committee of sorts to look into.
the events of January 6th to learn things that would actually help us prevent the next
type next riot that might happen in the future uh you know all my money would be on it's coming
from the left but whoever it's coming from I would want to prevent it and if we had an actual
competent honest government to look into these things there could be value there the problem is that
that is not what we're looking at now that's not what we're looking at all you know there is no
reason to look at the investigation of January 6th and come to the conclusion that it's anything other
than politics.
And I think it's been clear since the beginning that the left wants to turn January 6th into a
date that we memorialize, like we memorialize September 11th.
That we can look at every year, we can rehash these events and we can memorialize them and think
about all the bad things that have happened and every person on the right who is at fault for it.
And the people who are responsible for the bad things and the crimes that went on absolutely should be held accountable.
You know, look, we're conservatives here.
We're the ones that don't want bottles bashing off the side of police officers' heads.
We're the ones that complain about that stuff.
You look at the footage from January 6 and you can find a lot of examples of people doing things,
particularly to police officers,
that are completely unacceptable
to any conservative I've ever spoken to in my entire life.
Now, I cannot say the same for every liberal.
I cannot say the same for people like Colin Kaepernick
who wear socks, you know, calling police officers pigs.
The left has been saying you can do all sorts of terrible things to police officers.
I've never heard anyone on the right say things like that.
And I think that's why January 6th was so shocking.
Some of that stuff did go on and it was completely unacceptable when it did.
But you can overstate what happened on January 6th, just like you can understate it.
And we have to make sure we get that balance correct.
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How do you pick a real estate agent?
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This interview happened right before the holidays at Mar-a-Lago.
And it was not a January 6-themed interview, which is what the media is completely obsessed with.
There were important things that happened on January 6th.
We've talked at length about them.
But there are other things to talk about.
And in the middle of the Omicron wave that we are in right now,
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But like the other information we've had about Omicron,
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The interview went into some of the stuff surrounding COVID,
particularly Anthony Fauci, how to think about him, how to think about his time in the Trump administration and where we should go from here.
Here's Glenn and Trump talking about Anthony Fauci.
I think when this was coming out of China, it was perfectly reasonable to shut everything down because we didn't know.
They were welding people into their homes in China.
We had no idea and they weren't being open.
And by the way, they weld them in and they never opened.
And that was the end of them.
Fauci, I wanted to give, I want to give everybody the better.
for the doubt in those early days. We have done a ton of research. I did one of the biggest
chalkboards I think I've ever done. Right. They were using federal government money to do
Wuhan. Yeah, and Wuhan. I stopped it. I was the one that stopped it. Well, you did,
but I don't think Fauci cared about that. Fauci is now claiming he's science. Did you ever, did you ever,
working for you today? No, not now, but he's a great promoter. He's not a great doctor, but he's a
great promoter. But you have to understand everything he wanted I didn't do. As an example, he wanted to
keep it open to China. He ultimately was wrong about that and admitted it and admitted that I saved
tens of thousands of lives. He wanted to keep it open. I saw what was happening in Italy and France and
Spain and I closed it to Europe very early. You know, in China it was January. I closed it. And in Europe,
was shortly thereafter. We saved
thousands and thousands of
lives. He wanted to do that. And then his big
one of them all is
the masks are useless.
They don't mean anything. And then all of a sudden
he wants you to wear ten masks.
You know, wear as many as you can't put it all over,
cover your ears, do everything.
So I didn't
really do much of what he said.
And
he wasn't a big factor for me, in a sense,
because of that.
That was important to cover your ears with your mask.
Always remember that Anthony Pouchy told you that.
It's an important thing to remember as we go through this Omicron wave.
Now, of course, Joe Biden promised he was going to come in and not shut down the country,
but shut down the virus.
That obviously has not occurred, a gigantic failing of what he promised before the election.
However, I don't know if it's his biggest failure.
Perhaps his biggest failure was Afghanistan.
And Glenn talked to former President Trump about that as well.
In 18 months, not one American so.
was killed. And I wanted to get out more than anybody. You know that. I got it down to 2,500
soldiers. We were going to take everything out. All the equipment was starting. And I said,
I don't want to leave a nail, a screw, a bolt, a tank, a plane. Everything comes out. Even the tents
that we used as the hangers, every, they said, sir, it's cheaper to leave it. I said,
we're taking everything. And we were going to keep Bagram. Very important, because
Bogram bombed the other five places. And I said, bomb them from air. Use it as practice.
But we're keeping Bogram because it's right next to China, one hour away from where they make nuclear weapons.
And to watch these people give up everything.
And now China is occupying Bagram.
I mean, an absolute, an absolute disgrace.
Joe Biden has been on that.
And I think people forget about it because there's a new one every single week.
One of the other big stories of the past year has been the rise of conservatives in particular,
but people from all across the political spectrum, understanding what's going.
on with our education system. We obviously saw the big election results in Virginia that highlighted
that perhaps to a level that we hadn't seen in quite a long time when it comes to education.
Glenn also asked about what we should be doing with education going forward with former President
Trump. Is it time to get rid of the Department of Education and give the schools back to the
state's end of the parents? So I wanted to do that. We went.
have done that or we would have done a very big form of it. You have people in Washington, D.C.,
that don't even care about the kids. They're bureaucrats. They're working in Washington. And they're
telling people in Iowa and they're telling people in Idaho and in other places, far away places,
where every place is different. They're telling them exactly what they're going to study. You don't
need that. There should be a little coordination like you have to learn English. You have to have
have some basic math, but what they were doing was terrible.
And then what happened is it started getting into the whole cancel culture thing and all
of the different things that you've been reading about, which is totally true.
What they were doing, it's totally true.
They're still doing.
They tried to say, with the Yonkin race, which was very good, which we helped them
a lot, it would have been a big, I'll tell you what, that would have been a terrible result
if we didn't.
But that was a good race.
And people really saw what was happening with the schools.
So I think it's a great thing to get the heck out of Washington.
You know, some of these states do a great, a terrific job.
They can't move because of the federal government.
They can't do what they want to do.
And look at where we stand internationally.
We spend three times more for education per student than any other country in the world.
And we're in 38th place.
It's terrible.
So you give it back to the states where the states,
and some of these states will do a fantastic job.
Not all of them.
You have some that are badly run themselves.
They're not going to do so well.
But you'll have states that are doing a phenomenal job.
They'll be doing a job like Norway, like Sweden.
I hate to say this, like China.
So we are here on January 6th,
and we all know that the January 6th media's sort of tale here
is about how, you know, Republicans,
and Trump supporters believe the election was stolen and they ransacked the Capitol.
That is just the new, the new theft of the election narrative that we're getting from the media.
The old one was that the election really was stolen, but that election was 2016.
As we know, of course, the Trump administration and the incoming Trump campaign worked closely
with Vladimir Putin to arrange the election in 2016 so that our hero Hillary Clinton would be denied
to be the first female president of the United States.
That was at least what we were told for multiple years.
Now I guess that's in the background, but Trump was asked by Glenn about Russia, about Putin,
and what is the really important thing we should be thinking about when we're talking about a global situation
that does seem to be on the brink of all sorts of trouble.
Here is Glenn talking to President Trump about Vladimir Putin.
One of the first things that Joe Biden did was to stop the Keystone pipeline
and then say to Russia, you can build your pipeline.
That's something that Reagan, forever we've been saying,
don't do that.
Poland begged him.
Ukraine begged him.
Don't do that.
You had.
I stopped it.
had stopped it.
It was done.
Correct.
If you would have done that, people would have said, see, there, he's in bed.
He's friends with Putin.
He loves Putin.
It's like crazy.
I watched this is being taped in, what is it, November or December, and it would be airing
in January.
But I think it was this week, I watched Putin look at Joe Biden.
I didn't see respect or fear from him.
a fear of the United States or respect for the United States.
True.
You know Putin.
You know how he thinks.
You know how to deal with him.
Is he going to move into Ukraine, do you think?
Well, it's looking like that.
You know, when Biden told him about,
well, he was talking about sanctions.
When Biden says sanctions, Putin's saying, sanctions,
if they're only going to sanction,
then there's no sanction that's going to stop me
from taking over a country.
And by the way, it's a massive piece of land in an unbelievable location.
Right.
You know that.
But he didn't say there could be very serious consequence.
A sanction is not a serious consequence, no matter how strong it is.
Not when it comes to taking over a country.
And there was no fear.
One of the things that has been interesting about the reaction to this interview from Blaze TV subscribers
and people who have listened to the interview in its entirety.
is that it was able to bring them back to optimism a little bit.
I think the last year, I mean, certainly the last couple years have been really tough on so many people.
And especially for conservatives going into a Biden administration where it seems we are just in a nonstop catastrophe.
Every single issue this guy puts his fingers on turns to garbage.
And it's hard for the American people to look at that and have any hope for the future.
Glenn asked him about this a little bit and it kind of starts talking about how we're going to deal with energy.
But I think the hope of the future is really the overarching, I don't know, the unifying theory of this particular interview.
You can get the entire thing at blazTV.com slash Glenn.
Here's Glenn Beck with President Trump.
Are we going to be in three years in trouble if our banks,
are putting the small gas oil fracking coal people out
and fundamentally changing the structure for green energy,
can we recover from that quickly?
No, because the green energy is not strong enough
to fire up those plants and to do all of this.
I'm saying, though, let's just pretend that you're going to be president
in three years.
Can we turn this around and get on track?
Quickly. We can. Yeah, we can. I mean, we have to have optimism, and this is more than optimism, this is fact.
We were energy independent 11 months ago, totally energy independent. And now we're going to OPEC to beg them for oil.
I know. We're going to OPEC, Saudi Arabia, Russia. We're going to Russia. We're making Russia so rich.
You know, when I ended the pipeline in Russia, everyone said, oh, I'm so nice to Russia. I got along great with Putin and with President Xi and with all of them.
But there was never anybody tough like I was on that.
And with the tariffs on China, we took in billions and billions of dollars and frankly brought a lot of businesses back home because it no longer made sense for them to do things in China.
But when they did the pipeline and look at Russia, their primary thing is oil and the cost.
What we're doing is we're making them rich.
Interesting that Donald Trump did not seem to have a problem entertaining the idea that he might be president in three years.
Didn't push back on that one at all.
The entire interview, it's about an hour.
It's available at blazedtiv.com slash Glenn.
Promocode is Glenn.
And you can kind of take the entire thing in.
And really, they go over pretty much every single issue dealing with the future,
looking forward.
The Rolling Stone today, as I mentioned, is all upset that Glenn didn't ask him about January 6th.
Well, I mean, what are we getting out of that?
What's the point of that?
The point is not to look back and rehash every single argument from last year or five years ago or 10 years ago.
The much more important thing is to look forward and see where this country can go in the future,
whether that's under a President Trump or somebody else.
We have to have some level of optimism that we can turn around all the things that President Biden and everybody he's associated with is doing to our country today.
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It is January 6th.
There's no need to downplay what was wrong with that date, and there was a lot wrong.
140 officers were injured or assaulted on that day.
But as we look at this and we look at the grand scheme of things, it's impossible to take seriously that the left cares about that.
They never care about police officers being assaulted.
This is just not in their DNA.
in the George Floyd riots,
2,37 police officers were assaulted or injured.
2037 in the George Floyd riots,
140 in the Capitol riots.
It does not mean we downplay what happened at the Capitol.
That was bad.
But we should also not downplay,
minimize memory hole what happened during the George Floyd riots.
Both were terrible.
There were 710 arrests at the Capitol.
However, there were 10 arrests at the Capitol.
was 16,241 arrests when it comes around the George Floyd riots.
Almost all of those people had their charges dropped.
Not the case with the Capitol riots.
The damages, of course, about $1.5 million at the Capitol and about $2 billion when it comes to the George Floyd riots.
Both events were bad.
Both events were problematic.
They had different impacts and different symbolism attached to them, but both should be rejected.
This sort of activity is always wrong, and we know that.
I don't know that the left does, though.
This is the Glenn Back program.
