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when some real crisis is happening someplace in our country.
The real crisis that everyone refuses to talk about.
And we as not conservatives, but as human beings,
need to talk about what's happening on the border because this is one of the worst scenes we have seen on our border, possibly in my lifetime.
I'll explain in one minute.
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So yesterday I received an op-ed from a friend.
He said, Glenn, would you read this?
We wanted to publish it.
So it's up on the blaze now.
Our friend is Tim Ballard, who is the CEO or chairman,
or I don't remember what you are,
the CEO of the Nazarene Fund, and also are you the CEO of Operation Underground Railroad?
And of McDonald's.
And of McDonald's.
Yeah, which is impressive.
Because you're very busy.
Very busy, yes.
Yeah.
And a handsome man joining us right away.
I want to go through the article.
The first two paragraphs are stunning for entirely different reasons.
But let me just read the first two paragraphs.
A couple of weeks ago, I was called to testify before a subcommittee of the House.
House Homeland Security Committee. As former Homeland Security Special Agent undercover operator,
I worked child trafficking cases for over a decade along the southern border. I was there to testify
about the sex trafficking threat that awaits vulnerable migrant children being brought into the
United States. Shortly after I began my testimony, the chairwoman of the committee,
politely but firmly, let me know that my testimony was irrelevant for this particular hearing,
as this hearing was about the U.S. government's policy of separating undocumented families on
the borders and not about child trafficking.
As it is against hearing procedure for a witness to provide unsolicited comments to the
members of the committee, I had to sit there in silence, yet with full knowledge that the
chairwoman was wrong.
Yep.
Tim, how frustrating is that?
It's killing me because it's these trafficking events are happening in so many places
and we're trying to wake the nations of the world up to the fact that it is happening.
children are being abused. It's the fastest growing criminal enterprise on the planet.
And yet when it's right before us, and I'm there before the people who can change it,
and I'm told, shut up, shut up. We don't want to talk about that right now.
Tell me, the numbers are staggering on what's happening on our border.
Oh, yeah. I mean, the amount of people, just the people coming across, record-breaking,
undocumented migrants coming across into the United States. But the part that's not being
reported because in the 90s and in the 2000s, it was adult males looking for work,
crossing the border, not anymore.
These are children.
They're bringing children are coming across by the thousands.
There's been over a 300% increase since 2017 alone.
And children being brought across the border who don't belong to the adult who has them.
So we said when when Congress was saying, we can't hold children.
I immediately got on the air and said
that is the worst thing that could happen.
That's the worst thing that could happen
because grab a child and you're good.
The child is now the get out of jail free card
for smugglers, for traffickers.
They're surrendering themselves and say,
look, I have a child in my hand,
a passport in my hand.
Let me in.
And the guys on the border, they're great.
They understand.
And they're like, help us.
They're screaming to Congress.
I sat in hearings with the CBP commissioner,
who's saying, help us.
You are forcing us to turn these children over
to whoever comes to get them.
We only have 20 days.
The courts have backed it up.
And we have 20 days to vet people coming and saying,
hello, I'm uncle, like I wrote me a hotbed.
Hello, I'm Uncle George.
Little Isabel, six-year-old that you have in custody,
is my niece.
They have to give the child to Uncle George.
They have no time to vet these kids.
In contrast, you know, I adopted two children
recently from Haiti.
It was over one year of them vetting me.
I've had three, you know, top secret clearances in my lifetime.
I'm the one who liberated those children in the first place.
And yet I happily submitted myself and my wife and my family to an investigation to make sure we were well suited to take care of children.
A year.
And Congress is giving our Cupsums and Border officials 20 days or less to vet whoever shows up for
these children, oh sure, they have to sign a document, right, that says, I will not hurt this child,
I will not traffic this child, like you're checking out in a library book. And then it says a court date,
you must bring this child back for either a deportation or asylum hearing on this date.
66% of those kids never are brought back for court. They're gone.
All right. So there are two scenarios that are happening with the kids. One is they are just
used and passed back and forth on the border. Right? Right?
They're kind of a mule, if you will.
Is that the right word?
Right.
Well, I say they're recycled.
They're the get out of jail free card, basically.
And that's the best case, and it's abhorrent.
Children are being used as long as you have these kids.
And by the way, where are these kids coming from?
They're being kidnapped in Central America.
The separation of families isn't happening necessarily at the border.
It's happening well before they get to the border.
And that's the thing we're not seeing as a nation.
And so these kids are basically, the smugglers control all the routes.
First of all, you can't get in the country.
unless you go through a smuggler.
So they just have to get these children.
It's not too hard to kidnap children in Guatemala
or Honduras or Central America.
And they take these kids and they pair them with their clients,
their clients being the people who want to be smuggled in.
And say, take this child, pretend this child is your child.
And guys, 20 days or less, you're out.
Because they have to let you out
because the law of the United States,
backed by recent court decisions,
forces CBP officials to release you within 20 days
if you have this child in your hand.
That's the best case for these children.
children who are being used this way.
And of course, the worst case is the smugglers say, and we have the New York Times, even
about a month ago, had a story, several stories about how smugglers take these clients and
decide, geez, I can make a lot more money with them if I just sell them for sex.
Or they use them, they rape them and get their money out of them for what they're owed
for the smuggling fee.
And so it's very easy to imagine a criminal organization that are smuggling people, and they say,
but sex traffic them.
We can make more money.
The U.S., we are the demand.
We're the top demand for child sex in the world.
That is crazy.
So now we've set things up and all using our laws, right?
So now if you can imagine this, all a trafficker needs to do if you get into their mind
is say, look, I got to take this child, as long as they can get this child across.
And I mean, I saw this video, I don't know if you saw this video a few months ago of,
they're dropping the kids over the wall, over the fence, just dropping them and then they notice,
you know, Border Patrol will come get them.
and get them into safety.
Well, then they just called their friends up in the traffickers,
their friends in New York, Phoenix, wherever.
Hey, go to the McAllen Processing Center,
ask for Isabel Gomez.
She's six years old.
I just dropped her over the fence.
And so Uncle George shows up.
Hey, I'm Uncle George.
I got to pick up my niece.
They have to give the kid over.
It is absolutely insane.
And I couldn't get a word in Edgewise when I was called to testify on that very
subject.
So now here's the interesting part.
1,700 children in the last, in the last 12 months,
1,700 children have had the guts to say,
that's not my uncle.
That's not my dad.
1,700 documented cases in the last 12 months.
How many kids are not brave enough to say that?
How many kids have been told your family's in danger, your family's
dead, whatever it is.
How many children
have the guts
and the wherewithal to see a guy
an American with a badge
and say, help me.
How many?
There have been 1,700 in the last 12 months.
And that number is only growing.
Oh, absolutely. And the amount
of people coming across, hundreds
of thousands. Just this year,
I think we're close to half a million.
So, you know, how many kids are here and in?
And they're in our sex markets.
And we rescue them.
And you've met some of our survivors, Glenn, who came in as undocumented
migrant children and were raped, and this is not an exaggeration, over 20,000 times before
we finally pulled them out of New York City or L.A. or wherever they're being held.
I mean, this is a massive sex market.
Again, the fastest growing criminal enterprise on the planet is human trafficking.
and the United States is the number one demand for child sex.
So it's happening in our cities right here,
and the traffic is are laughing all the way
because our laws are actually facilitating the trafficking event.
We've made it so much easier.
Yeah.
We've made it.
We've made it easy to come in.
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All right. So Tim Ballard is with us from Operation Underground Railroad and the Nazarene Fund.
And we're talking about the border and this absolute epidemic. I have Arthur Brooks coming in in a minute.
And Arthur is from the American Enterprise Institute, and this guy has a heart of gold and knows how to frame things to speak to people's hearts.
And I want to ask him about this because we're not framing the border in any way to connect with people's hearts at all.
And what's happening is just overwhelmingly evil, just overwhelmingly evil.
you went to Congress prepared to give them two solutions.
They didn't want to hear it.
That's right.
So you never were allowed to even present these.
I was not allowed to, no.
No.
I remember the first time you told me what you really did, you were undercover,
and the thing you said is, I can't do it anymore because we have solutions and our government ties our hands.
Can't do them.
So what are the two solutions on this?
Well, you know, there needs to be many, many, many solutions.
The problem is so vast.
So I would just want to take baby steps.
Things we can do immediately, immediately.
Again, this is not a catch-all.
It's not going to resolve everything.
But first of all, we have to have a vetting process in place.
I don't know what that looks like, but I would call on the good people on both sides of the aisle to come together, drop the politics.
It's so political.
I'm so tired of it.
Like, can children transcend politics?
I think, I hope yes.
I hope that's the one thing that I hope, you know.
I'm not really seeing it quite yet.
But can we just drop everything else and not say Trump or Republican or Democrat?
Just say children.
Children, how do we save, help these children right now?
There has to be a vetting process.
Why wouldn't we?
Why wouldn't we, you know, if we found an abandoned child in New York City,
there would be a vetting process in place to make sure that if someone shows up to be mom and dad,
there's going to be a process in place.
Why wouldn't we grant that same process to a migrant child who's completely innocent and scared to death?
And we just want to get them home to their families.
Again, it's right now it's a library book checkout system.
It's just signed for the kid.
It's horrible, you know.
And so a vetting process has to be put in place.
There should be an investigation, judicial identity hearings where a judge can weigh in.
This is what we would do with an abandoned child in New York City who's a U.S. citizen.
Make sure that the person claiming to me mom and dad or uncle or aunt.
is in fact that thing.
You can do a DNA test.
DNA testing, yeah.
I'm working with the company.
It's cutting-edge technology.
We're using the technology in Haiti right now
to bring children back to their parents
who are lost.
Two hours.
It's rapid DNA technology,
and we can determine whether they're related that quickly.
Get that deployed at our borders right now.
Right now, there's no excuse right now.
And then the other solution,
which can also happen right now,
is let's temporary duty,
TDI, judges, immigration judges, asylum judges, put those courts into our U.S. embassies, particularly in Central America, where the floods are coming, or the caravans are coming out.
And because there's legitimate asylum seekers.
And for them, we're forcing them really to drag their families and their children thousands of miles to see a judge through dangerous country, through, you know, a precarious border towns.
Causing chaos in everyone's life.
Right.
Just put it, put immigration, asylum courts in our embassies, let them come there.
Now someone's going to say, oh, you know, they're in danger.
Well, if there is a credible threat, there's something we could do to help protect them in those cases.
But the most important thing it does is it takes the incentive out of the traffickers.
Because now the trafficker shows up with the kid who's not their kid.
And the immigration official, the customs official, says, I'm sorry, you need to go to your country and see the judge.
No more 20-day loophole.
And so guess what?
They're not going to go to the judge because they don't have a legitimate claim.
And they're going to give up the scheme.
They're going to stop taking kids and using them as ponds or worse as sex slaves.
So these are things that, Glenn, we could do now.
It doesn't take a whole lot of time to send, to create these immigration.
You just need a room and a judge, you know, and start building this up.
Didn't Mike Lee and Ted Cruz also, weren't they working together to try to come up with a way to put a whole bunch of judges down on the border to be able to, I mean, this is, this seems to me to be a better system.
them. But we can do these things and no one is talking about it. They tried to do that, I think,
about a year ago. Nobody was willing to even talk about it. That's right. Well, it's funny bringing
up Senator Lee. I was with him, actually, and giving this very proposal after I got on my hearing
where I couldn't talk. I went to his office and Mike helped me. They won't listen to me. He's like,
well, I'll listen to you. What do you need? And so we're now moving forward on the Senate side
to get this bill passed to make these things happen immediately.
So Senator Lee is definitely engaged.
Is this the first time that this has happened to you in Congress
where they just were not interested, that it was a show trial?
No, the other time I was testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee,
and Lindsay Graham was the chair, and he let me say what I needed to say.
but this time it was it was clearly a political thing i could tell um you know i've i've
talked i've been i've been open about the fact that barriers and and and walls we're not supposed to
say that word but barriers of any kind clearly forced traffic to ports of entry and my again my number
one uh concern are children i know how many children are smuggled traffic through wallless barrierless
parts of the border. So let's force the traffickers to go to where police are, to where
customs officials are, and they're trained to look for children. It's a very simple concept,
and yet that was, Glenn, this is so, and I briefed the president on the same concept. We lost
1,000 donors. Can you believe this? One thousand people who used to help us rescue children
stopped, became, like gave up because I sat with the commander-in-chief of the United States.
And by the way, I would have given the same briefing to President Obama. I worked under Bush
43, nothing's ever changed.
Everyone's always believed that barriers control traffic and help rescue children because
it forces the children or the traffickers into the places where they can be rescued.
It's two plus two equals four.
And yet I go and give that testimony to the current president of the United States and I lose
1,000 donors overnight because I said, and I thought to myself, is that where we're at where
we hate one person more than we love rescuing children?
It's very discouraging.
You know, maybe we can gain a thousand more today right now.
Yeah, I was going to say, wait, if you haven't, if you haven't pledged to help our rescue.org,
Operation Underground Railroad, please, please do.
This really, that, that number really saddens me as well.
You and I both believe that the one thing America can come together on is slavery is bad,
smuggling children, smuggling humans, bad.
Right.
You know, kidnapping children, bad.
And it's the one thing that we have seen over and over again.
that even the people who are the furthest apart can come together.
Absolutely.
And it's not political for me at all, at all.
Like I said, I would give the same testimony to anyone who called me.
I don't care from what party.
It doesn't matter.
It's simple solutions to rescue children.
And I know they work.
They will obviously work.
This is all I've been doing my entire life on that southern border.
So I am an expert, not in a lot of things.
But in this, I'm an expert.
I know what will rescue children at the southern border.
And I'll tell anyone who will listen.
and too many people are
politicizing it.
Join us at OurRescue.org.
Ourrescue.org.
Tim, as always good to have you.
Thank you so much.
You can read his, and please share it.
Read his op-ed on the blaze.com.
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Coming up, one of our favorite people.
Outgoing President of American Enterprise Institute, Arthur Brooks,
joins us in studio.
That's coming up next here in the Glenn Beck program.
We are thrilled to have Arthur Brooks,
president of the American Enterprise Institute,
at least for a little while longer.
He's leaving the organization that he started,
and he's going to become a professor at Harvard.
Welcome to the program.
Thank you, Glenn.
Great to see you.
Good to see you.
So we have to start with a very long time lie we've been living.
What is it?
Stu and I both have a very difficult time.
And we just, for our friendship's sake, we want this out.
Okay.
Let's get it out there.
Let's get this fixed.
We both have the worst time we call you.
you Albert Brooks all the time.
This has to be a hate it.
A nightmare of your life.
Yeah.
So two years ago, I was at sort of a camp thing for lots and lots of guys and we were all
hanging around.
And I looked at my left around a campfire and there was sitting Albert Brooks, you know,
the film director, the comedian.
And I looked at him and I said, you're Albert Brooks.
And he said, what's your name?
I said, my name is Arthur Brooks.
And he said, no.
I said, yeah.
And you know what else?
People have been calling me Albert Brooks since I was a kid.
He's like 10 years older now.
He said, since I was a kid, because you're so famous.
And he looks at me.
He doesn't crack a smile.
And he says, imagine how Adam Hitler felt.
So if we call you, Albert, it's just, it's all good.
You know, I've been hearing my whole life.
It's all good.
Than calling you, Adam Hitler.
Yeah, I'll say that.
Every time we talk to you, we look at each other like, Arthur, Arthur, Arthur.
I know, I know.
Arthur.
Oh, it's terrible.
I haven't even like.
It's fine, though.
Oh, I think he's funny.
He's funny.
Like, it's not like I'm a huge fan of his movies.
I don't know why.
It's something like you're green.
No.
Albert Einstein is his real name.
Shut up.
I'm kidding.
I'm not kidding you.
It's Albert Einstein.
You're kidding or you're not kidding?
I'm not kidding.
I promise I'm not kidding.
And what happens is he changed it to Albert Brooks because you're not going to go into show business
named Albert Einstein.
You should change your name to Albert Einstein.
I should change my name to Arthur Einstein.
And people will still call me Albert.
All right.
So, Arthur, you have a.
a new documentary out and I have seen it and it is really good really good you are you know um we were
talking the other day about uh buddha judge and he is the the he's playing it the nice guy right
he may be a nice guy I don't know anything about him other than you know what you read about
and he seems like a really nice normal guy a guy who comes out and says yeah I'm gay and you know
what I also eat chick fillet and I like it
Right.
And it's it's a guy who's coming out now and saying, you know, I don't hate everybody that you're supposed to hate.
That's fighting fire with water.
Right.
And that usually works.
It generally does.
Particularly after a period of hate and polarization, the reason that that actually can work right now is because 93% of Americans say they hate how divided we become as a country.
And every single person listening to us right now loves somebody.
with whom they disagree politically.
But there's a class that's getting rich and powerful and famous,
largely in politics and in media and on campuses saying,
you got to hate people who do you disagree with,
that they're deviant, they're stupid, and they're evil.
And in our hearts, we know that's wrong.
You know, in this movie you talked about,
in the pursuit, in this movie, you know,
we sit down with people who call themselves Democratic Socialists.
They're awesome people.
They're great people.
They love their fellow men and women.
I have different policy ideas.
I think I have better ways to get at their objectives,
but their objectives aren't wrong, and most people know that.
And so Pete put a judge and a few other people are actually going to,
they're trying to rage against the contempt machine in this country by saying,
you want something better.
The product is crummy.
I'm going to give it to you.
Will it win?
We'll see.
Will it even get past the people who are making an awful lot of money on Hainton,
the outrage industrial complex?
Yeah.
Yeah, we don't know.
Here's a clip of the pursuit.
I don't claim to have all the answers, but the answers that I've found have truly changed my life.
Arthur Brooks, sir.
Thank you, Mr. President.
It's an honor to be here with all of you.
Poverty is the thing I care about the most.
I think that the suspicion that people have about capitalism comes because they think people like me don't believe in morals, and they don't believe in any regulation at all.
And that's not true.
Here's the great irony of our times.
People in the wealthiest countries in the world are increasingly turning against the very system that's lifted us out of poverty.
If India had not adopted economic reforms, there would be 375 million poor people more in the country today.
Whatever we've got to do to get the American dream honestly, then that's what we're going to do, you know?
The American dream is always predicated on you work hard, you get the right grade, you go to the right schools, and a lot of the time, it doesn't work that way.
The real poverty exists when a young man or a young woman grows up with no dream.
That's poverty man.
You know, go goes away. What are we going to do?
They didn't think about that.
They didn't expect it.
They didn't expect it.
Two billion people have been pulled out of starvation level poverty.
What did that?
One, happy life, do not want suffering.
You are showing genuine interest, not only money matter, but more white.
perspective, ideally.
Very much appreciate.
Thank you.
Thank you, Your Honor.
Of the American experience,
is a moral consensus that our society should push opportunity to the people who
needed the most.
Here's why Arthur Brooks is even more talented than Albert Brooks.
Albert's listening, though.
He, um, he, if you watch that, you are the only person.
that believes in the free market that I have seen that understands heart and imagery,
you're not there with the Pope, you're there with a Dalai Lama.
You're on stage with a French horn, and it says in the trailer, a musician,
that is not a guy next to a tractor.
And you are able to break through to the other side.
You, there's images of you with, um, briefing, uh, president Obama.
Right.
You are able to get in, uh, to places that most conservatives or most constitutionalist and, and,
and strict libertarian, real, you know, liberals, classic liberals can't go, nor care to go.
Um, and you have all of the imagery that you need to be able to break the, the, the,
divide. Yeah, that's the idea and that's why how a movie can really change people's conversations
in a big way. You know, one of the things I was trying to do in this film, and what I've been
trying to do with my career, by the way, is to get to the places where traditional conservatives
don't get to go and have the conversations they don't typically have. Why? Not just because I'm
going to convince people on the other side, because I want people who are persuadable who are watching
the conversation to say, huh, you know, there, I saw a guy who's got free market,
views who believes in conservative ideas. Why? Because he wants to lift people up from the margins. And he was
having a conversation with iconic figures from the other side. And no horns, no anger, no vitriol, no
contempt, no hatred, no disrespect. And, you know, that's really what people want. And if we want to
win the country for a better set of ideas so that we can have more solidarity and brotherhood and
happiness and love in this country, we need to go or we're not invited. We need to say the things that
people have not heard before. We need to share with everybody is the bottom line. And that's what
puts joy in our heart still. Glenn, you've been trying to do this too. You know, you, you want to
talk to everybody. I mean, when I look at, you know, what the charity is doing, I mean, I saw the,
I saw the trailer for your charity yesterday at the Dallas Film Festival where the, where the pursuit was,
and it's, it blew my mind. I mean, there's no way that somebody's going to say, let's Glenn Beck,
the conservative guy. They would say, this is an organization dedicated to ending slavery around
the world to lifting people up. It has no ideology about it whatsoever. And that's the point,
isn't it? We want the best for everybody. Conservatives lose arguments because they go in with
guns blazing saying, here's what I'm against. And if you disagree with me, your stupid and evil.
And here's the problem. I said this to Stu yesterday. Who was it? What was the candidate that
said, I think it was Beto, that Americans are against the conservative and Republicans,
an agenda.
I don't even know what that is.
I really don't even know what that is.
There's not that they're not for it.
I don't think they know what it is.
You know, we're against an awful lot of stuff.
But who's out there talking about, you know, I watch your documentary.
I've always thought of, please, forgive my ignorance.
I was a dummy up until I hit 30s.
I did no nothing.
I was a musician.
I was worse than that.
No, you at least.
You at least could play a horn.
So, but I've always thought of India as a capitalist system.
And, you know, I'm watching your documentary and I'm like, oh my gosh, no.
No, it wasn't, it was the furthest thing from a capitalist free market system.
It was a Soviet planned economy until the early 1990s.
Amazing.
That's incredible.
And since they've abandoned that, we've seen massive changes.
It's one of the highest growth rates in the world.
You know, you go to India's...
Growth rates in...
In the world.
And the great growth rates and economic growth rates in the world.
Thank you.
Incredible when you go there.
You find that 375 million Indians have been pulled out of abject starvation level poverty.
And they're among the two billion that have been pulled out of poverty because of the free enterprise system.
Because the American system of globalization and free trade, property rights, all this stuff that we take for granted.
The culture of upward mobility.
And the culture of now...
making something yourself,
doing some, starting something small,
and now with the tools of the internet,
being able to sell it anywhere in the world.
I was struck in the documentary of,
of,
it,
it almost felt like New York must have felt in 1900.
Yeah,
that's the point.
And it's a point that I'm making the film,
because if you look at the footage of,
of New York,
you say the,
you know, the garment industry,
for example,
the,
you know,
Laurie's side of Manhattan in 1910, it looks just like slums in India do today.
And people are in industry.
The truth is that people live a lot better in slums in India than they did in New York in
in 1910 because they have health care and their kids go to school and they have a lot of
possibilities.
But it looks the same.
And what that brings home to me, and it's controversial to say, but I honestly believe
that is that those people living in slums are in India, they're us separated by time.
And if we can't look at these people around the world and, and, and, and, and,
see ourselves in them.
What's wrong with us?
Look, you know, the becks were scratching out potatoes in Ireland a few generations ago.
And look at you.
They were ambitious riffraff.
That's America.
And that's what moves me.
And that's what we need to spread and change the world with are these ideals.
Hans Rosling makes this point in factfulness, which is his first time I ever thought
of it the way you just described it.
Is it really a time issue?
It's not us and them.
It's not first world and third world.
These are countries that are coming along.
a lot of times accelerated paces than more accelerated paces than what we did. But they are just a
little bit behind. All these things are happening. All these incredible improvements in the places
that have implemented some basic form of a free market. They're seeing those same things. And that's a,
that's a glorious miracle. Yeah. You must have capitalism. And since capitalism has started
to spread around the world, and capitalism gets a bad name because it sort of means everything and nothing.
But what we're talking about is the free enterprise system, bounded with appropriate regulation and basic human morality, has alleviated 80% of starvation level poverty since I was a kid.
70% of Americans think that hunger's gotten worse.
It's gotten better.
80% better.
I mean, it's the greatest humanitarian achievement in the history of the human race.
And it's happened since Glenn Beck and Arthur Brooks were kids.
We got to spread that from the rooftops.
And the reason is not just to be done, not just to cry victory.
It's because we need the next two billion of our brothers and sisters.
They're out there and they need us.
And charity, it's good.
Maybe it'll get us to heaven, but you got to have a system that works while you sleep.
And we've found it and we can spread it and we got to fight for it.
Not because it's good for business, not because it makes us rich, but because that's what
will alleviate suffering will help us to serve others, which we need and which will allow
everybody to earn the success, which is the expression of the radical equality of human dignity,
which is what we really believe in.
Back in just a second.
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Why are you going away from the American Enterprise?
And why are you going to Harvard?
You know, I've been running AEI for 10 years.
When I came in, AEO started in 1938, it's a really old organization.
In the past 10 years, we had phenomenal growth.
We've hired tons of people.
We've had a big impact.
And we've stayed in the world of ideas as opposed to be getting dragged into politics.
I did what I said I was going to do, sort of operationally.
And I promised them 10 years.
And I know when you stay much more than 10 years in a place like AEI as president of a think tank,
it's not the best things don't happen.
Part of it is because you start losing it.
energy and it's so it's and also you get too identified with one person so i say you know i prayed
about it for a long time you know i prayed for discernment what am i supposed to do next and uh and
i was an academic before i taught at syracuse for a long time and i resigned my position with no net
and i about i heard from about 10 universities some other things too you know to and and a university
is a really good thing because it provides an opportunity to do a tremendous amount of creative work
and the the really incredible thing from harvard is that harvard called and said we want you to come
cheer and I said, why? And they said, because you think differently and we want to shake things up.
And I said that, and I said, wow, that's good. For sure, it's great. It's great. Is it going to be,
there's going to be resistance to my ideas? I hope so, because that's the opportunity. You know,
when you're in the mission field, when you're in the mission field, you don't want to go to where
everybody's already converted. Exactly right. And they're not in the university. And it's a great
university. All right, back in just a second with more from Arthur Brooks. And I,
I want to talk a little bit about what's coming in America and what each of us should do.
I've got a tough question for Arthur Brooks.
Oh, I have one too.
Yeah, do you?
Can I ask one too?
Yeah.
Do you mind?
Okay.
I love the tough questions.
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So Arthur Brooks, he is the president of the American Enterprise,
Institute. He is also leaving there to become a professor at Harvard. God bless you, man. And he is a producer of a new documentary called The Pursuit. And it's all about the free market system. It is something that everyone should be watching. And especially if you have people who are, you know, Democratic socialist or socialist or your kids in college, they should watch this. It has the heart that the free
market system should have when we're selling it. It's not all facts and statistics. It has a lot in.
However, it is really more about lifting people up from poverty. And it comes out in a few weeks,
right? Yeah, it does. Well, it's in showing is all over the country right now. So it's in,
in screenings in about 100 communities. We're in three international film festivals,
and it'll be on digital platforms starting this summer. And it'll be on Netflix starting in August.
Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, I'm so happy about that. I mean, like, my,
whole career has been dedicated to trying to lift people up toward equal dignity and the limitless
potential that people actually have.
The free enterprise system exists and the reason we should fight for it is only because of that.
It's not for us.
It's not for Stu and Glenn and Arthur because we're very lucky people.
We're prosperous people.
And the truth is we could prosper under a system of socialism.
I don't want to.
It wouldn't be fair.
It wouldn't be right.
But we could.
Who needs capitalism?
Who needs free enterprise?
the people who are still at the periphery of our society.
We got to fight for them.
The next two billion people, they need us.
And what I talk about in this film is how you, you know, with proper regulation,
obviously with morals, because you can't have markets without morals.
If you do, they'll be ruined.
They'll ruin everything.
And if you have these things, then you can be a force for goodness in the world and showing that,
bringing people together, listening to everybody.
What a joy it was to make this picture.
So, Arthur, let me ask you, let me ask you this.
we are sitting in a really interesting time.
As you know,
that I was not for Donald Trump,
to put it mildly in the last election.
Sure. You were very vocal about that.
I have watched him,
and I still have the same concerns
that I've always had on many fronts.
On other fronts,
he has done what he said he would do or more,
for instance, on Israel.
It's been crazy.
He's also done things that I, you know,
thought he would do.
and frighten me like the trade barriers that we have.
When it comes to this next election,
if I am faced with one of the social Democrats
or one of these people that are even dancing around the edges of saying,
yeah, well, we got to get rid of the free market system, you know, eventually.
Right.
I mean, I know who I'm going to vote for.
How do we square this with,
with what we're facing because what we're facing is the end of the West and America as we know it.
Yeah.
You know, we've had threats from socialism forever in this country.
It always comes back.
Not like this one.
I mean, maybe in the 1930s.
Yeah, in the 1930s, but after every financial crisis, it comes back.
And so if you see after the 1890s, there were two financial crises that were just hardcore in 1892 and 1890s.
There was a railroad bus.
Just as bad as what we saw in 2008.
worse, as a matter of fact. And you got William Jennings Bryan, who was this left-wing populist,
who also was anti-immigration, anti-trade, and all the stuff that we don't like of populism,
both right and left. This always comes around, and this is always our opportunity. For those of us
who believe in the promises of democratic capitalism to lift up the world, you've got to look
at these times and you say, this is an opportunity. Look, you're the quintessential entrepreneur,
Glenn, not just in media, in a bunch of businesses, because you believe that when you look around and
say something's not right. That's an opportunity to build something good and true. So if we look at
the idea economy today, and we say all these people, all these young people say that capitalism
is a sham, that socialism is a better, as a better system. You've got people running for president.
You have leaders in Congress who are espousing democratic socialism. That's our opportunity,
because that's when the conversation is ripe. So I look at this and I say, man, I am so lucky to be
alive right now. I'm releasing a movie on major digital platforms that talks about how, how
capitalism is a beautiful system for helping the poor.
It couldn't be better timed.
And all of us can do that.
Glenn Beck is an apostle for democratic capitalism.
And you're going to get a better, bigger audience listening to the fact that you believe in global brotherhood, not in global profit.
And that's the reason that you stand behind the free enterprise system.
It's a, look, there will be bad things that will happen.
I got it.
But there's going to be good things that happen too.
And let's focus on all the good things that we can make happen.
So how do we?
How do we make the impact?
How do you have the conversations?
Because quite honestly, I feel when I go to Silicon Valley and I know what Silicon Valley is.
Right.
Do there a lot.
And you're very sophisticated in the way you talk about technology.
So I go there and I feel in some ways that I am in a place that is more America than America.
Because there are a group of young people who are like, hey, I have an eye.
idea and they just do it and it changes the world. It is truly free market. And the ideas are so
exciting and they're so big. I mean, they're talking about changing the world. It's,
it's dynamic. Where are those people on our side? Where are the people? We are good at articulating.
I mean, I kind of came to a place, Arthur, if I could do my whole career over again.
Yeah, what would you do?
You would be, I would be like you.
You would start by playing the French horn and not making your run.
No.
Yeah.
No.
Getting kicked out of college.
Is that the part you mean?
But I, you know, I was the, what, third or fourth most admired man the year I went to Fox from CNN.
You know that stupid A people?
Yeah.
I was tied with the Pope and Nelson Mandate.
Okay, that's crazy.
That's crazy.
I love America.
I don't know.
This is a commercial for America here.
Yeah.
So.
I'm sure I voted for you, by the way.
So when I went to, when I went to Fox, saying the same thing, it all changed.
Yeah.
And I became this political figure.
Politics is at the back end of the dog.
And not the front end.
And you are pigeonholed into some.
thing that is is ugly and grotesque. And I kind of came just recently to to the feeling that we,
you know, we all have, we all have our own gifts and we all have our own positions. And I've
not liked mine. Mine has been worn people. And I hate that. I grew up an alcoholic family.
I don't like conflict. I mean, look at me. I mean, yesterday they were dragging me through the
mud saying that I said that, you know, Muslims attack Notre Dame, which is the exact opposite.
of what I said.
You know,
I'm always in the center of conflict and I hate it.
But my role is to warn people on what's coming.
Right.
Your role is to help us out and say,
here's the path forward.
So what is it that we say to our friends?
What is it that we have to change,
you know,
point to the,
the bright horizons and say,
look at this person,
look at what's happening here, look what's happening here.
Where's our course?
Our course is self-improvement, the American religion that you are the master of yourself,
and that's what we're on the cusp of reviving.
And this happens a couple of times a century in the United States, and it hasn't happened
for a while.
We're really, really ripe for it.
And look, you and I are in the same business because you are a self-improvement guy.
You are a man of the revolution of the individual heart.
After, you know, the end of the 19th century, when, you know, America was beaten down
civil war, tons of poverty, financial crises, polarization, populism, kind of like now,
except worse in most ways because we were a much poorer country. That's when the self-improvement
revolution really swept across this country. And what that was was entrepreneurship of each
person, the startup of each life. And that's what we really need to bring a culture back of.
So if you want people to stop to, they want young people on campuses to stop talking about socialism,
you have to help them understand that they are the master of their feelings and they are the
master of their fate, which is empowering, it's encouraging, it's aspirational. And here's the best
part. It's true in America. It's why Jordan Peterson is so popular. That's why Jordan Peterson is popular.
By the way, that you think that you're just Ezekiel. You know, your, you're a prophet. It's like,
you know, the end is near. That's not true. You know, you're an encouraging person. You know, when I watch
you, and I realize you know, I've been watching for years and new years, CNN, Fox, and since you've been
on your own in this incredible entrepreneurial venture.
You're an aspirational person because you believe in the goodness of this country and you believe that everybody listening to us, everybody who's on the other side of these mics, they're true entrepreneurs with their own lives, too.
The true enterprise of life in America is each person listening to us.
And when we can get back that culture, then we're off to the races and that's what I want to start.
And I think we're a man, I think we're on the edge of it.
I've written this, I read this book called The Pursuit.
I mean, sorry, the movie's The Pursuit.
I wrote Love Your Enemies, which came out one month ago.
Love your enemies.
Matthew 544.
It's how you can be an entrepreneur by loving your enemies.
It went on the best sell list.
You know, that's very encouraging to me because people are hungry for it.
And so the people are listening to us.
Okay, what are you going to do?
What's your opportunity?
Somebody's going to treat you with contempt, with nastiness.
Your opportunity is to treat people with love.
Okay, standby.
We'll get into that in specifics here in just a second.
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I mean, no, it is.
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So let me go to Love Your Enemies for a second.
Yeah.
And this is something I think the audience struggles with.
I sometimes struggle.
I think everybody does.
That's the name of the new book, but it's basically the philosophy of life.
Yeah, all right.
Yeah.
You make a point in the movie and the book of saying,
don't treat your opponents as evil, right? Which I think we all kind of understand. However,
there is a line there, right? We all recognize if Adam Hitler were running for president right now,
that might not be a productive conversation. And you know, you talk so eloquently about lifting
two billion people out of poverty. But we have a, you know, several candidates that are talking about
trying to rip down many parts of what has made that occur globally. And when you're talking
about people and being able to lift them out of poverty. I mean, how do you find the line? Because
there is a line. And, you know, if we're talking about billions of people being able to live that
otherwise might not have, I mean, how far is Bernie Sanders from that line? I mean, he may be a good
person. I mean, I think a lot of times he plays with the truth a little bit too much for that
particular description at times. Yeah. Weird thing for a presidential candidate. Yeah, I know. I know.
It's totally unique to him. But, I mean, there is that line. And I feel like a lot of people need
audience who want to be able to have productive conversations with people they don't
disagree with see people like Bernie Sanders and Akosio-Cortez and people that are out
there advocating for things that will actually really hurt people and and can we not stand
up and say that that's that's wrong right so let's get a couple of things clear I
I completely disagree with almost everything that Bernie Sanders talks about but he's not
Stalin he's we're so far away from these I mean this is we have to be we should be
incredibly grateful in this country
You know, when we, there's no knock in the night.
There's no jackbooted thug.
We disagree with each other.
And sometimes it gets ugly.
I mean, especially if you're on the front lines like you guys, it gets ugly every 20 seconds on Twitter.
It's a big mess.
It's a ghetto out there for, and it's a dangerous one at that for ideologically.
But, you know, when I talk to members of Congress and I get to talk to go on retreats
with members of Congress, and one of the things I'll often ask is how many of you guys
are grateful we don't live in a one-party state?
It's every hand.
And I say, you just told me you're great.
for the other party.
You know, the truth of the matter is if you want to have a competition of ideas,
which we must have, because competition brings excellence in sports and in politics and
certainly in economics and in the world of ideas.
If you want to, that's what Silicon Valley is getting right is a competition of ideas.
If we want a competition of ideas ideologically, we need the other side competitively.
I don't want Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's ideology for this country,
but I have to recognize that these are not people that are, that are, that, that are,
the same magnitude. These are not evil people. These are simply people with whom I disagree. Now,
who do I want to convince? And here's where it gets really interesting, right? I want to convince
the persuadables. I want to convince all those people out there. They're kind of like, yeah, give me your
best shot. How am I going to convince them by saying that Bernie Sanders is evil? That's saying
that Bernie Sanders is deviant by saying hateful, disrespectful things about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?
No, no, no, no. I'm not going to get any converts. Look, nobody is persuading anybody in America today.
job is to persuade and be persuadable, to live in an environment where I can make my best arguments
and have the joy of being humble when somebody makes a good argument of taking it. And
I can't do that if I say Bernie Sanders is a Stalinist. Can't happen. So I just did an interview
with Peter Bogosian, he's the guy who, along with two other scientists, scholars, professors,
did the white papers that, you know, said, you know, male rape culture in dog parks.
Yeah.
The fake paper.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Really, they're lefties.
They're real lefties.
And I said, alarmed about what's going on in academic.
Very alarmed.
Research, right.
And so I sat down with them.
And, you know, we were open about it.
And they said, you know, a lot of people on our side do not want us sitting with you.
And, but they, they did.
And we talked about the different.
being you talk to people who are honest brokers.
You talk to people and we started their atheists.
Both of them were atheists and I'm clearly not.
And I said, let's talk about first cause.
Are you an atheist or are you an agnostic?
Because an atheist knows.
I just know.
An agnostic said, I don't think so, but, you know.
And really, that's where we all should be in the end.
you know, what we got to was if I could provide evidence that there is a God,
scientific evidence, there is a God, would you change?
Yes, was the answer.
That's the difference.
If you could scientifically prove, and I don't think it'll ever be scientifically proven either way,
but if you could scientifically prove something, will you change your opinion?
The answer should be yes.
But too many of us are not willing to change our.
opinion. Right. You know, we're locked down. And part of the reason is because it's become an article
of faith in politics that if you show any weakness, that means you lose. That's not right for most
Americans. And the interesting thing is, you know, what we mentioned before, every single person
listening to us right now loves somebody with whom they disagree politically. If you love somebody
with whom you disagree politically, you should simply reject it when somebody you don't know on
television or in politics or on campus says that that person's an idiot. It's not right to say that
your sister-in-law is an idiot. She's not an idiot. She's not an idiot.
it, she thinks about things differently than you do.
This also, when you come to terms with the fact that it's not right for people to criticize
your loved ones or anybody to say that they're deviant because they disagree, that gives you
the intense pleasure of maybe being persuadable.
I think that we can change American culture this way, but it has to start with personal
revolution.
It has to start by saying, just because I think something doesn't make it right.
If I find evidence to the contrary, if I find evidence that something is actually better for
others is better for my objectives. I'm going to look into it. Look, you've changed your ideology
over the years, Glenn. I mean, you've changed the way do you think. I've seen the evolution as you
as a public figure. Why? Because the pleasure that comes from humility is indescribable.
It is. Being persuasive is kind of scratches your pride. Yeah. Arthur, thank you so much.
Thank you, Glenn. I appreciate him. What a joy to be with you. Thank you. Arthur Brooks,
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So Arthur, I think, is a very aspirational guy, and I love him.
And I love what he's done with the American Air Prize Institute.
I love, love, love, love his new movie.
I think he'll make a big impact.
I think he'll make a huge impact at Harvard as well.
I think he is, well, let me put it this way.
I hope he's right that we're a million miles away from Stalin, but we are walking towards Stalin.
And some are running towards Stalin.
Yeah, I mean, we know Stalin's evil.
We know that that philosophy is evil.
And nobody is talking about rounding anybody up.
No, but we are talking about silencing people.
Again, if you don't want to get to a destination, it's best not to go down the road that leads to it.
Yes.
So if you're only taking a short drive down the road of socialism, it's scary because, I mean, the closer you get to those things,
you're increasing government power,
which allows the government to overwhelm all of the positives.
It is difficult, and it's a tough line.
That's why I asked them that question.
It's a tough line to draw,
because there are times where, you know,
like the great that has come out of the free market,
the people who oppose it and oftentimes oppose it,
while I believe willingly lying about it,
I mean, it's hard,
it might be the right thing to do,
but it's a hard thing to do to not just see that as people,
you know, it's an activity that is,
against human achievement, human prosperity.
And it's, and many times it's completely dishonest.
It's completely dishonest.
Let me give you an example.
It was very, very hard for me to hold my temper yesterday after I saw what Newsweek and
others did to my words on the program, the news and why it matters.
as Notre Dame was burning down, as it was burning down, we were receiving tweets that said,
Glenn, you predicted this.
Because in 2015, I had said, if you want to see places like Notre Dame, you got to go,
because you're going to go to Paris and maybe in the next 15 years, and that thing will be
burnt to the ground.
It'll be gone.
Well, I was talking about a threat from Islamic terrorism at the time in 2015.
Since then, 2016, there was a threat.
Four people were arrested trying to destroy Notre Dame.
In that same year, ISIS came out and said that it was their number one target in Europe.
And then the next year, they arrested four people that had a car bomb headed towards Notre Dame.
So while this is happening on screen, we're getting emails from people, people on my staff.
staff are coming in going, Glenn, this is exactly what you talked about.
And I said off the air, no, no, no, we don't know.
You also said that on the air, by the way.
Right.
I know, but I said it off the air first.
Then I get on the air.
Now, I want you to listen carefully and Stu, do me a favor.
Write down the key things that you hear me say because I'm going to show you how the media took it.
And what the media, Washington Post, everybody else, what they did to this, I think, very
logical, reasonable conversation.
Listen. President Macron has just come out and said it looks like we may not be able to save it.
Just watch the video here, just a little bit of this. That's the spire. This is their 9-11. Look at the spire fall. That's the spire of Notre Dame.
Look at how hot that fire is. Look at the flames, how high those flames are. That is not close to going out at this point.
No. We don't know what caused it yet. We know that there was a,
mass renovation that was going on.
But that is a pretty remarkable.
I mean, this is a world landmark.
And probably next to the Eiffel Tower,
the most iconic building in all of France.
And more important than the Eiffel Tower.
This is the site of the American Revolution,
I mean the French Revolution,
This is the site of Victor Hugo.
I mean, this is so wildly important to France as an image.
Also, like, really serious archives are held there.
I mean, they're going to lose all sorts of art and archives that they can,
you're never going to be able to recreate.
I mean, just the rose stained glass window is irreplaceable.
If this was arson, this is going to be bad.
If this was arson of any foreign kind of, in any foreign entity, anybody with a grudge,
I think if, and this is a huge if, it might have just been started by a cigarette we don't know.
but if this was started by Islamist, I don't think you'll find out about it
because I think it would set the entire country on fire.
They've had killings, they've had mass shootings,
they've had people running people down in the streets.
The tension is very high.
You take away, this would be like us burning, what, our White House?
I mean, what is iconic like this?
World Trade Centers?
Yeah, like the World Trade Centers.
This is their World Trade Center moment.
And if this was done by terrorists, I think that they will keep it quiet because I just don't think Macron and France wants that internal fight.
If this was done by somebody who was disgruntled with the government, et cetera, like the yellow vests, you know, they did say this weekend that the police can put bullets in their guns and they can.
shoot to kill the yellow vests. They said that this weekend.
So maybe it's that. I don't know. But this is a, this is a really big deal. The world has
lost a major, major piece of history today. Okay. What did you take from that, Stu? What did
I say? Can you sum that up? Sure. You said it was there 9-11. I mean, I think obviously
iconic buildings falling was what you were talking about. It's funny because the way the spire
fell, what it reminded me of in that moment was the Saddam Hussein statue falling.
and at no point that I think there was an invading force that was trying to liberate Notre Dame, right?
Like that's just not what I thought.
So, I mean, I thought with the smoke and the way it collapsed.
And not just the way it collapsed.
Being in a huge iconic building.
Yeah.
This is, you know, our image of financial impenetrable stability was taken down because it's Wall Street.
It's New York.
It's these gigantic, immovable towers.
Okay.
It didn't have the importance.
Those were buildings.
It didn't have the importance of Notre Dame.
But it had the, in some ways, Wall Street has the soul of the capitalist nation.
Yeah.
And that's why they targeted it.
That's why they targeted it.
So the same thing.
When I'm saying this, this, I keep saying it's the heart of France.
You know, it's an iconic building.
It's more important than the Eiffel Tower to the French.
that strikes to their soul of who they are.
You don't just wipe that off the map.
And so what I was saying with 9-11,
it's their 9-11.
They have been just sucker-punched in the gut.
Now, remember, our 9-11,
we didn't know who did it.
No, not 9-11.
We had no idea.
We had absolutely no idea who did this to us.
On 9-11, we were freaked out.
on 9-12, which was there yesterday, okay?
What did they do?
They started raising money.
They started coming together.
France has never been more united.
That's their 9-12.
Now, if they find out that somebody did this,
they will respond as we did.
But it looks like, and I said, you know, it's amazing.
Did you catch?
If it's arson, it's bad.
If it's arson from a foreign entity,
it's worse.
If it's arson from terror,
even worse.
We know it could be,
they say now it could be a cigarette.
So if it's a cigarette,
but a huge if
it's Islamic terrorists,
you won't hear about it.
Yeah. I mean, that's all the stuff that I wrote down,
basically. I mean,
the fact that the first thing that you mentioned
as a possible cause was a mass renovation period.
That was the first thing you talked about.
Number one. And that was about where we were
on the reporting. We didn't know what the case was at that point. And in addition to that,
the one thing that was suggested as a possibility was the mass renovation. Now, of course,
if you had come out, let's just say, you had come out and said, hey, guys, you know what happened
was, I believe this was Islamists. This is, they did this. This is them. You would have been
wrong, okay, in this particular case. However, as you point out, they have done this, they have attacked
this exact building multiple times in the past couple of years.
They said it was the number one target of ISIS in Europe.
So it would not have been insane to think that was true.
Though you didn't think of it as the number one possibility,
you said it was mass renovation was the number one possibility.
You said it could have been a cigarette.
You could have said it could have been the yellow vests,
which is, you know, again, none of that ever gets mentioned in any of the tweets about it.
No, of course not.
Because there's a line there.
There's a line about when you're doing a show like this and you're, you know,
we're talking off the top of our heads for four hours a day.
there's two lines.
There's one,
you could actually say something wrong.
You can legitimately say something that you screwed up
and you're going to get a beating for it.
And you understand that.
It's happened with you.
You said things where you're like,
I wish I said that another way.
And you take the beating and you're like,
this is what I meant.
But you know,
you know you're on the wrong side of it.
Or you can understand how people took that right.
I don't take a word of that back.
I think all of that was very clear.
The other standard,
which is the standard applied on social media
and by, you know,
left-wing organizations that are
whose sad lives are filled
with listening to your programs
and over and over again to try to find something they can use against you is different.
It's, it's can, did we say something that someone can act as if they believe was bad?
Can they act as if they believe what you meant was terrible?
Like I know, you know, doing the show with you, you said, you talked about, I think if it's
Islamic extremists, you might not even find out about it because.
Now, why did I say that?
Right, exactly.
The reason you said that, and you explained it, of course,
was that there's so much internal strife there right now
that if something came out about that,
it could cause a real inflammation of the whole society.
A lot of it against Muslims, by the way.
And did I attach a good thing or a bad thing to that?
Not finding out.
Did I say that was good that you wouldn't find out or bad that you would find out?
That you wouldn't find out.
You were kind of saying it was good.
Yeah.
I was saying it will cause massive problems.
Right.
And I don't think anybody in France wants that.
And I don't want that.
That could be the catalyst that sets it on fire.
So before Newsweek and everybody, I was trending nationally yesterday, okay, with lies.
Yes.
Absolute lies.
Before that, IA had Jason on, our chief researcher, who I had put up and said,
stay up all night.
I want you to find out everything you can.
Look for the conspiracy theory so we can debunk them right away.
Find out what you can.
And you talk about it.
on the air. We started the show with that. Then yesterday, I said, this may be a blessing because
it takes that iconic thing away, which would absolutely start a religious war. It would absolutely
start it if this was ISIS. And it takes that off of the plate. So it can't be used. I think
how, how, how, well, instead what they say is when you say, uh, well, you might not find out
it what they again I don't they don't believe this but what they're trying to make
their I was going to say Arthur Brooks is in my head so I'm not going to say
dumb people who visit their websites but the people who visit their websites what
they're trying to make them believe is that what you're saying is if you hear
it's construction they're lying which is not at all what you were saying no you
did not say that at all you never said that publicly you never said that
privately that is not what you were saying no you were saying
something completely different which you just explained but again the
The goal of these organizations is not to find an example of you saying something wrong.
It's something that they can plausibly act like they believe was wrong.
They can go on, they can say, they do this all the time.
You take a statement and you act as if, well, that is their entire viewpoint on this.
And I can make them look dumb if I tweet this and act like I don't think they know anything else about the topic.
Right.
That's a terrible instinct that I think gets drawn out of social media and clickfarmes and clickbait farms.
But, I mean, it is, these organizations are out there specifically to do this.
And, you know, as Arthur pointed out, some of that is a blessing.
Like, you know, we could easily just be ignored for everything that we say.
The fact that these people are up all night, obsessing over you and listening to every word that you say is, you know, generally speaking, at least their, you know, people care, which is.
So here's, I guess.
You're making an impact.
Here's a thing.
I had an employee who's a good friend and I love him and he's worked here now for six months and he is just great.
He came to me yesterday and said, hey, I have to talk to you about this.
I really strongly disagree because he read it in the Hill and Politico.
And he believed them over the guy who he, I passed his desk twice yesterday.
Well, it wasn't over you.
He had not heard your side of it.
But he, you know, he assumed they were reporting it accurately.
He just assumed they were reporting it.
So instead of coming to me and saying, Glenn, this doesn't sound like you.
Did you really say this?
Instead, he believed the media.
He works here.
That's the problem.
If you are, if you are in a place to where you'll believe the media, who we all are supposedly to distrust, if you believe them over people who you know, there's a problem.
How does, how does anyone stand a chance?
How does anyone stand a chance?
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Absolutely.
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We try to be.
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Who's the dumb one, huh?
Huh?
Really?
You or us?
We're the ones that just drive into work.
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I mean, is that the laziest thing you can do?
I mean, I would like to make it easier.
I mean, it's a three-hour show.
Can we get it down to about a minute and a half?
Okay.
And I think it would be a great minute and a half.
Oh, we would small.
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Sometimes we'll give you three minutes.
But anyway, we're lazy.
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Oh, please.
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I was going to do Choose Your News, but Andrew Heaton just walked in.
The host of the podcast, something's off with Andrew Heaton, and something is very off with
Andrew Heaton.
I don't know how much longer his show is going to last.
Maybe today might be the last episode, not sure.
Looking forward to having Arthur Brooks on them.
How are you doing?
Good. How are you? Good morning.
Oh, yeah, I'm doing good.
You brought in...
I brought in donuts.
I had something of an awkward day yesterday.
Yeah, and thought...
You're very sweaty right now, too.
I'm very sweaty right now.
Yeah.
Well, that might just be the amount of...
Yeah, I'm sweating.
Yeah, I'm wearing a lot of layers, though.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
It's 65 degrees in here.
But anyway, go ahead.
Yeah, well, you know, yesterday we did the panel show, the news and why it matters.
And I had kind of jumped to some conclusions on...
some of your positions, Glenn.
Yeah.
And fortunately, brought it up before the show before I jumped into my monologue.
Right.
Give me your monologue.
Give me the monologue you were going to do.
I won't do that.
Why not?
Well, you know that I am not angry with you.
You know that this is all, you know, this is showbiz joking here.
But the donuts were a good move.
That being said, thank you.
Well, so to fill out what happened,
I had read a headline that said that you were implying that Islamists burned down Notre Dame
and that the French government was suppressing that information and that that was their 9-11
and it was sort of a flashpoint between East and West and I was going to come in and be like,
you know, this is irresponsible and it's conspiracy theorizing and it's demonizing Muslims.
And what did you imagine I would have said?
I don't know. I wasn't really sure.
You know why?
Because doesn't that seem a little out of character for me?
It does.
It does.
It does.
I think, you know what?
What I could have done is, I could have gone, hey, Glenn, I read this interesting headline.
What's your take on this?
Right.
And avoided a lot of issues yesterday.
A lot of that.
A lot of that.
So why?
And I'm not talking about you because I think this happens all the time, all the time.
If you read it, it is so.
So what was it that made you?
you go, this doesn't make any sense.
That's not the Glenn I know.
I'm going to go on the air and tear him apart.
What was it?
What?
Why did that happen?
I'm seriously looking for an answer because I think this happens to a lot of people.
You know, part of it is if I'd gone to like right wing watch.com slash glen
slash whatever.
Right, right.
Then I would have dismissed it.
But the story I was looking at.
that it was a headline that I saw from the Hill.
I did read the paper or they read the story.
And I just kind of, I thought the Hill liked that they would have, you know, done a little
bit more.
They would have packed it properly.
Yeah.
Well, because, I mean, it wasn't just the Hill.
It was lots of different, because you have this first organization that comes out and lies
about what you said.
And then dozens of other publications start reporting on the initial report without
doing any homework.
I mean, like, you know, it's one thing.
It's hard.
So you get a source and a news story.
you got to track them down.
Maybe their house just burned down.
You got to find them.
You got to find out where they are.
You got to check all these different things.
Glenn does a national radio and television show every day.
So all the things that he says are always available, right?
It's relatively easy for a reporter reporting on a particular story to go do this.
And reporters know how to contact my people.
That's strange.
Yeah.
That's strange.
It's not like some, I don't know.
Do we have a Ouija board?
How can we possibly get a statement from Glenn's Glenn or Glenn's people?
No one reaches.
out.
No one reaches out.
If you're going to, and I, you know, we've done enough shows with Andrew, and I know
he would have not come on and trashed you over this.
He would have wanted to hear what your explanation was over it.
But I mean, if you're a publication going out there and trashing, Glenn, over this,
you have an absolute responsibility to make sure you understand what he said correctly.
You've got to take it.
Or here's an idea.
Correct it.
Anybody seen a correction?
No, I'm not seen.
No, not seen a correction.
And that's the thing.
Like, you're right.
like right wing watch.
Dot death of Beck.net is not going to ever correct it.
But there are, you know,
publications out there that should at least,
they should protect whatever credibility they have
to not just speak to a hard left wing audience, right?
And this is why there is no credibility.
It's hard.
It's hard when, you know, we'll come on and sometimes
there'll be something that the right is getting wrong, right?
And we'll come on the air and say,
look, you know, we've looked at this and here's what we believe is right.
I think the conservative side of this is actually made a mistake here.
Here's source A, B, C on this.
And they'll just hear the names.
You know, it's the New York Times.
It's the Hill.
It's whatever it is.
And so they've,
a lot of these places have burned their credibility with the rights so consistently
that they won't even listen when they actually have facts correct.
You know, it's just like, oh, well, that's the New York Times.
Of course that's what they're saying.
Well, you know, look, the New York Times makes lots of mistakes.
And in their op-ed section, they're completely insane.
But they also, I mean, a lot of the information that we bring to you about,
you know, Islamic extremism over the years
has been because of reporting
from the New York Times.
Yeah.
I mean, they've done a lot of good things too.
You have to judge story to story
writer by writer.
And the way to summarize this,
maybe do your own homework.
Facts.
Yes.
Do your own homework.
That's why you always plead with people on us?
So why the donuts today?
I just wanted to kind of bring him in
and, you know, kick off a new Wednesday.
A little bit of sugar.
Right, right.
Now, it's interesting.
You didn't pick carrots
for Glenn. I noticed you picked baked goods and glazed sugar. What was the decision-making process
there? Well, as you know, I'm secretly trying to murder Glenn. Okay. I thought this will just be
slowly do it. All right. Well, so we got that going for us. How's the show going? Good. I'm really
enjoying it. Really? It's good. We've got Arthur Brooks on today, which I'm really excited about.
Yeah. Or actually, I'm sorry, Arthur Brooks is going to be on tomorrow. We've got Deanna Easley on today.
Who's Deanna Easley? She, so she's here in Dallas. And we're going to talk about, well,
Fair, and I have a chat on that.
Tomorrow we're going to talk about Arthur Brooks's book and capitalism, which I'm excited
about because the main thing on the show that I do is a temperamental thing of good
and intelligent people can disagree in matters of substance, and I feel like Arthur Brooks
has exonified that in his book.
So I'm excited to have them on.
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Well, like, like, let's say that they're anemic or something like that.
And, you know, they really need protein.
I mean, like, if you shot them in the thigh, I think, like, in the state of Texas, you're probably okay.
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His parents destroyed his porn collection
He got so upset
He sued
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Well
I mean we're just speaking of Andrew's podcast
You can be certain
That chewing the fat with Jeff Fisher
Is going to cover
in depth, the porn story.
The porn story is really good, though.
It is really good.
All right.
And then you have the veto.
Yeah.
Which is important.
Or the dog owners.
I mean, I am interested in the legal theory behind the porn case.
So let's do that.
Okay, the porn case.
Okay, we're having dessert first.
Here we go.
Gentlemen is suing his parents for destroying his pornography collection.
An Indiana man.
and suing his parents in federal court for destroying his gargantuan collection of pornography.
He says the value is $30,000.
Wow.
It was so large, it filled over a dozen moving boxes.
I'm going to say, I think the porn industry at this point would disagree with this analysis.
I think they're churning out a lot of material and not getting paid a lot for it anymore.
Sad days.
Dad wrote, we counted 12 moving boxes full of pornography plus two boxes of sex toy.
as you might call them.
So this guy's going old school.
He's not on the internet.
No.
He's not going to any of the sites.
He's just popping up the old magazines there.
Is that what we're talking about in like videotapes?
Do we have a description of what this is?
Yeah.
Among the materials were videos depicting beastiality,
incest,
rape, torture, and everyone's favorite urination.
Now, my understanding of this particular
matter is that many of those things are not legal to possess.
Again, listen to chewing the fat with Jeff Fisher.
He'll explain all the details.
Well, now, this is going to come as a surprise to everyone involved, but this guy was 40 years old and had to move back in with his parents.
Well, when you spend tens of thousands of dollars on illegal porn, you're lucky that you're living with your parents and not behind bars.
Well, he was married.
He was married for a while.
Oh.
And they're still together happily ever after an anniversary coming up?
No idea what happened, but he had a divorce and his wife got everything.
He got to porn collection.
Don't know what happened.
But the mom and dad destroyed the entire pornography collection and then got rid of all the sex toys.
the the father had written said we're going to destroy these things he didn't respond they started to destroy them
and dad wrote to him as they got deeper into the porn collection i find your whole attitude toward
women to be very disturbing women are not objects for you to pleasure yourself with they are people
created by God just as you were and should be treated with respect and dignity.
Believe it or not, one reason I destroyed your porn was for your own mental and emotional health.
I could have, I would have done the same if I had found a kilo of crack cocaine.
Someday, I hope you'll understand.
And then he got sued.
Then they got sued.
Now, that does not, that analysis does not cover the Beastiality tapes.
Did he cover that individually?
Because, uh, I mean, pets are people.
people too.
Pets are people too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The guy, the 40-year-old said, you can't just go around destroying people's stuff that
you don't like or agree with.
We live.
This is coming from a guy who has beastiality and urination tapes.
He said, hello, we live in a civilized society.
If you have a problem with my belongings, you should have stated that.
And I would have taken them elsewhere.
Instead, you chose to keep quiet and behave vindictively.
I hope destroying that porn felt really good.
Was it worth losing your son?
Now, I'd like to turn that question around.
Yeah.
Was your porn worth probably your wife and your two parents?
Uh, yeah, that's a, that's a good way of questioning.
And I would also argue.
If you say yes, dad may have been right.
Right.
No, I think dad was right.
I think that's clear.
I would also say, just from a fundamental economic standpoint, you just, I mean, I don't think you need to spend $30,000 on porn anymore.
Right?
Like, you could just probably go on the internet and get all this stuff times $100,000 for $0.
What's the fascination?
Without the VHS?
Without the VHS?
I know.
It's still bleak.
thinking 12. I know your Magnavox is not going to work out that well.
You may need to get an Apple TV to get it on the MagnaVox, but I think, I mean, I just don't think
the economic value of this is worth.
This is classic porn. This is classic hustler.
It could be. I will say that I wouldn't be completely stunned if he wins that case.
Right. Like if, I mean, I would think generally speaking, you know, when you're a kid, it's my house,
my rules, right? Like your possessions are, are your parents' possessions. But when you're 40 years,
old and you're living with someone.
Like if I'm a roommate with someone and I bring in a bunch of boxes there and they just
throw the stuff out without any notice, they probably are in the wrong, whether it's porn or not.
Now, it may open up some other legal issues for this young gentleman.
This poor couple, it's their son.
And now this is all out there.
I mean, you know, one of the, if you didn't, you watch Making a Murder at all?
No.
Season two has a, they go through, they believe, you know, the defense's case,
and this is that one of the other family members
was actually responsible for the murder.
So one of the things they go through
is the computer of one of the kids
who they find a search history
and they go through it in explicit detail.
Oh boy.
The search history was not encouraging
for this person's future prospects.
And I mean, really dark stuff,
like the stuff you're talking about.
I mean, but every variation
of just searching the internet
for every creepy thing you can think of.
And like, you've just,
Just that being on television, how can that family ever be a family again?
Right?
Like, and he, you know, spoiler alert, it's not working very well, even coming up with these things.
But who caused that?
Him, right?
I mean, it's his fault, although he thought he was doing something in private.
And now little does he know because in theory someone else murdered someone.
Can I ask you something?
And now his search history is out there.
Can I ask you something?
Yes.
do you leave your pornography collection, if you had one, at your mother's house?
No. You try to avoid that when possible.
I mean, if mom would have found, like, I don't even know, the Sears catalog or something underneath your bed, that would not be a good thing.
Right.
When mom came in, you don't leave your porn and sex toy collection.
at your mom's house.
How little respect do you have for mom?
Particularly this 40-year-old living at home because he got divorced, likely because of too much porn, was not making the best decisions, Glenn.
I hate to break this to you.
I know it ruins your whole theory here, but...
He may not understand women, is what you're saying?
Yeah, maybe not understand.
I'm saying women, humanity, the internet.
Lots of things he didn't understand, apparently.
Storage, it's storage units that are available for 1999 a month.
What is wrong with you, dude?
Just, I mean, take a step for you, dude.
All right, well, we've got two more stories to cover.
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we're trying to
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Trump has issued the second veto
of his presidency
and Congress does not have the votes
to override him and what this is
the bill would have invoked the war powers
resolution to pull the U.S. assistance
to Saudi Arabia
out of Yemen.
Now this is something that has been going on for years
they just Obama put
put us in the middle of this war.
I don't want to be in this war.
Nobody, you remember when George Bush was like,
you got to go and ask Congress for permission?
So he did.
And they voted for Iraq.
That was something that I believe the president has to have the ability to say,
I have to act and I have to act right now, send them in.
But then Congress has the ability after 30 days to say,
you know what, dude, you haven't made your case.
I'm turning this off.
They have a right to do that.
That is their constitutional power.
I mean, really, you know, they, I think constitutionally, they should be voting for it from the very beginning.
The War Powers Act expands the executive power to be able to have any time at all to be able to react.
Me personally, I think 30 days is reasonable.
That's different than what we're talking about, though.
I completely agree with you.
It's reasonable.
And I think it's, isn't it 60?
It's 60 days and then a 30 day.
withdrawal period.
Maybe that's what it is.
What it comes to the War Powers Act, but the War Powers Act,
the War's Power Resolution is not
in the Constitution.
That's just something they passed.
Correct.
So, and that's why there's been
fighting about it ever since, because
it does, you know,
it treads on some very
tender ground because there's a conflict
between both sides here.
I mean, you know, in theory,
Congress is supposed to be able
to declare war and that's supposed to be
the way it's gone. And we've gone many different
directions of that over the years. But here is the problem. This, this comes from everything we passed
around the time of the Patriot Act. We passed special powers for Islamic terror, okay?
Which means you can fight any place on earth. As long as it's terror, you can fight it.
So let's just say, you know, the, you know, people who believe in, I don't know,
Beto all of a sudden decide, you know, we're going to throw really wimpy punches at people.
If the president wanted to declare that terror and if it was regarded as terror, he would have the power to go scoop those people up.
So that's the problem is when it's deemed terror, the president.
Now that's an extreme case and obviously it wouldn't happen.
But that's what is happening in Yemen.
It's the war on terror.
And so he's using that loophole, and Barack Obama did this.
He's the one who started this.
He used that loophole to get us roped in in Yemen, where we're providing support.
Well, make the case.
I personally think you can, but make the case.
Yeah.
And I don't understand why that's a big issue.
Now, of course, we're well past what the War Powers Act even allows for.
Correct.
And they have now voted.
but I mean he has of course the right to veto that that's part of our system as well but that's why Congress and let's see I don't trust anybody in Congress
Because I think it's all it's just you know if Congress voted today and said we're gonna take away the funding
What really where were you when this was started? You didn't have those scruples before and so I don't believe that there's an honest bone in anybody's body in Washington
because the House clearly against Donald Trump,
they, I think, and this is why we have to get Mike Lee on the phone,
I believe that because the House of Representatives controls the purse strings,
I believe the House can cut the funding off unless there's a loophole in with this new Patriot Act kind of time period.
I don't think Trump would still be.
able to veto it. For example, they tried to defund
to defunding of Planned Parenthood. Not only
did the defunding of Planned Parenthood have
to go through the House and pass the House, then it went to the
Senate where it failed, but if it had succeeded
in the Senate, it would have gone to
the president who could have vetoed it. Now, this president
would not have vetoed that. So what good is the
power of the purse strings? Well, it's still
where everything originates.
Yeah. It doesn't mean you can just cut off funding for
anything you don't like. Then any,
like, wouldn't the Republican Congress
could cut off all funding for Obamacare? We wouldn't have
worry about repealing it.
But here's here's the way this was set up.
And we've so lost this.
Here's how this was set up.
The people have to be listened to.
This is we the people.
And so they gave us a representative government, all those representatives.
This is why, you know, California has, you know, I don't know, 400 and Texas has a thousand
representatives, you know, and Delaware gets Joe Biden on Tuesdays.
And when he's not on.
in the Amtrak.
Right.
When they're in the House of Representatives, it is representative of the general population of each state.
And they have the fastest throw them out policy.
Every two years, you can throw those guys out.
Okay.
That's where they put the power of the purse strings.
So if somebody goes in there and they're like, you know what?
We need 90% taxes.
You know in two years, if the American people are against it, they can throw them out.
all right then you're supposed to have the balance of the senate which was two people selected by the state not by the voters but by the state house the governor in the state house was supposed to say we're going to pick two people that are as main as possible as minnesota as possible and we're going to send those guys because they have to stand guard for the state so
the House of Representatives represents the people.
The Senate represents the state.
And the president represents the president and just trying to CEO all of this stuff together.
So you had to have the president have the final say and he's only supposed to veto if it is unconstitutional or he believes it's unconstitutional.
If he doesn't like it, it doesn't matter.
The veto is for unconstitutional things.
And that's been dead for a long time.
Long time.
So we've completely screwed this system up.
But what good is the power of the purse if you can't stop anything?
Well, you can.
You just have to go through the system of government that we have, I guess.
I mean, you have a situation.
This happened with the whole emergency declaration argument, right?
Like, it's like, well, Congress passes a law that says, we want to give the president a chance to declare an emergency for a short period of time, but we would have a chance to override it with a veto, essentially.
You know, Congress, all they have to do is just pass a majority and it's over.
Well, that went to the, that went to the Supreme Court and was ruled unconstitutional.
So that's why they needed to have the, you know, the override of the veto vote, which is a much higher standard, much more difficult to pull off to block the emergency declaration.
And they were not able to do it.
They were not able to come up with those votes.
The same thing here with the end.
They don't have the votes in either house to overturn the veto.
Maybe I think this is just different for me because it's war.
It's war.
People are being killed.
And if the president decides to go in, I give the president.
I think the president needs to have the ability to go, guys, this just happened.
DefCon one.
Go now.
He needs that power.
He seems very reasonable.
Right.
In George Washington's time, maybe not.
But you need it in today's world where a jet can be or a missile can be over our cities in 13 minutes.
And I think that's an argument to, by the way, amend the Constitution for something like that.
They would give a window.
But to just pass a bill and then, I mean, it's seemingly by multiple presidents in a row here being ignored.
The idea that the Constitution gives Congress this declaration of war power, that that is being ignored.
and then even the War Powers Act
has been ignored by multiple presidents in a row.
Again, if you look at George W. Bush,
he still took his power seriously.
He still had the power.
Man, those jets were over in Afghanistan.
He, you know, he moved when he had to.
But he also knew when you were dealing with something that was dicey
that the American people are split on, go to Congress.
It's only good for you, I think.
It's good for the country, right?
I mean, you want people on record saying that they,
You only want to go to war when you don't want that to be a partisan issue, right?
You want that to be something that we're all behind, or at least the vast majority are,
and you want to avoid it in most circumstances.
And, you know, I understand that this is a dicey situation over there.
I mean, it's a, it is.
They talk about it as the biggest human, like, rights situation in the world right now in Yemen.
It's a disaster over there.
And it's a proxy war.
But we're involved in it.
And if we're going to be involved in it, there's a good case to be involved in it if you want to.
Yeah, there is.
And people have made it.
It should be something that is approved by Congress.
It shouldn't just be something that presidents could just start doing.
And by the way, the president that did this was Barack Obama.
Yeah, no, this is not Donald Trump.
This is Barack Obama.
I was against it under Barack Obama.
And Donald Trump, one of the things that he said, he was going to stop these endless wars
and he was going to get us out of these foreign entanglements.
And I wish he would take this as one of those wars that need to be stopped.
Or make the case.
make the case because I know why we're in that proxy war.
It is to stop Iran.
And the Houthi rebels in Yemen are big problems to Saudi Arabia.
So to balance the region, you want to keep the Houthi rebels at bay.
So Saudi Arabia doesn't collapse, which would give all the power to Iran.
I get it.
I don't want to be in that war.
I don't want anything to do with it.
but at least make the case and let the people decide.
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A very well-respected survey.
It's been a barometer of American politics, culture, and behavior for more than four decades,
started to ask the critical question that they've never asked before.
Cat or dog?
In 2018, general social survey for the very first time included a battery of questions on pet ownership.
Finds that not only quantified the nation's pet population, nearly six and ten households have at least one,
but they made it possible to see how pet ownership overlaps with all sorts of factors of interest for social scientists,
like happiness.
For starters,
there is little difference
between pet owners
and non-owners
when it comes to happiness.
Okay,
so you own a pet,
you don't own a pet,
you're about equal in happiness.
The two groups are indistinguishable,
indistinguishable on the likelihood
of identifying as very happy,
a little over 30%
or not too happy in the mid-teens.
But when you break the data down to pets,
dogs, cats,
or both, the divide emerges.
Dog owners are about twice as likely as cat owners to say they're happy.
Now, this is people owning a dog or a cat.
If they own both, it's almost as if they, it negates itself.
Right.
No effect.
No effect.
Okay.
Dog people, in other words, according to the survey, are slightly happier than those without any pets.
those in the cat camp, on the other hand, are significantly less happy than the petless.
Okay?
So if you have a cat, you're miserable.
You're miserable.
And this is obvious.
You're on the road to socialism.
You own a cat.
You're on the road.
You're at least a progressive.
Why are you on the road to socialism?
You may not even think so. You just are.
You just are.
Why are you on the road to socialism?
Because you have no feelings.
Cats have contempt.
Okay. Cats have contempt for human beings.
Is this in the study?
It could be.
I don't.
Maybe, yeah.
In 2016 study of dog and cat owners, on the other hand,
yielded greater happiness rating for dog owners relative to cat people.
It attributed the contrast, at least in part,
to differences in personality.
Dog owners tend to be more agreeable.
Conservatives.
Conservatives are more agreeable?
We're more likely, it says in the study,
it does say this, that they are more likely to just go out and make friends,
and, you know, they're just walking the dog and they're like, hey, and they start talking about things.
Right.
And they just are agreeable people.
I want to say more agreeable on issues of principle.
They are more extroverted and less.
And this is, I mean, this is from the survey.
This is not me.
And less neurotic than cat owners.
This is like your study.
Did you design this thing?
2015 study linked the presence of a cat in the home to fewer negative emotions, but no increase in positive ones.
dog owners are more likely to engage in outdoor physical activity than people who don't own dogs
cat lovers generally stay in their house they should look you can have one cat you can you can
marry somebody who has a cat you have a cat you can have two cats i'll even give you three cats
once you hit over three cats unless you live in a farm department of homeland security is coming
because you're going to turn in one of those crazy cat people anyway uh it's deep and that's in the
study, obviously.
It's someplace, I'm sure.
Dog owners are more likely to seek comfort for their pets, from their pets in times of
stress, more likely to play with their pet and consider their pet a member of the family.
This is what Ernst Hemingwood said.
Human beings for one reason or another hide their feelings, but a cat does not.
Yeah.
And human beings don't crap in a box in the laundry room either.
And I think that's the real key.
If you're crapping in a box by the laundry,
uh, no, you're not staying in my house.
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