The Glenn Beck Program - The REAL Consequences of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Resignation | 11/24/25

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

The meeting between President Trump and New York City Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani was questionably civil. Was Trump playing 4D chess by being nice, or is there an actual camaraderie between the two? Fi...lling in for Glenn, Stu and Pat discuss their feelings on the unprecedented meetup. The guys bring up Georgia Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's announcement that she will resign from Congress at the beginning of 2026, and they discuss some of the odd stories surrounding HHS Secretary RFK Jr. Stu dives into the questionable dating history of Keith Olbermann. Pat reads through some of the poetry RFK Jr. allegedly wrote for journalist Olivia Nuzzi during a rumored affair. Pat and Stu discuss the latest example of civil asset forfeiture, and Pat says the process is unconstitutional. Stu shares why Texas Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D) is his favorite person in Congress, despite being one of the dumbest. Pat and Stu discuss Crockett's chances of winning a Senate election.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:00 Now let's get to work. Welcome to it. It's Pat and Stufer Glenn today. Triple 8-727-B-E-C-K. I had the big meeting, Mom Nani and President Trump, and also some interesting poetry from an interesting guy,
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Starting point is 00:05:17 It was kind of the aftermath that bothered me a bit. What bothered you about it, Pat? Just the incredible friendliness and legitimizing of Zerun Mondami that I thought there was a little bit much. Really? Yeah. Yeah, a little bit much. In what way?
Starting point is 00:05:33 way that you're legitimizing a socialist Islamist or a Islamianist, as I like to call him. Islamianist. I like that. And I was fairly alone on that. On my show, a lot of people called in and said that, you know, he's just, he's setting Mondami up for, I guess, the fall. And he's treating him nicely now, and then he'll be able to ride in later. and say, see, I gave him a shot. How did you feel about it?
Starting point is 00:06:07 So the 4D chess argument, essentially, was that play. Yeah. You know, I, first of all, completely agree with you in that I, you know, don't want him legitimized. I don't. I mean, he's not, this is not a, I don't think this is a guy necessarily you're going to be able to work with. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Well, the way he's acted afterwards, like, he's stuck to everything. I always said what I said before. and I say it now. Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. You know, because there are, look, there are examples of people, even who say they're
Starting point is 00:06:41 Democratic socialists who are playing to an audience, right? I don't think that's Mom Donnie. I don't either. I think he's a true believer. Yeah, me too. And so it scares me. Now, of course, you know, Trump has a bunch of business interests in New York. Like, you know, making an enemy of the New York City mayor doesn't really benefit him,
Starting point is 00:06:57 I suppose, any more than they already are memories or enemies. I mean, because like, you know, people have a memory of what, you know, Mom Donnie was just saying about him, calling him a fascist and everything else. That being said, I'm very much of, we've been at this a long time, Pat. You know, it's been an exhausting decade of talking and analyzing every move that Donald Trump makes. I tend to fall at the side of the spectrum, which is like, I really, like, day to day don't care what he says, frankly. And this is not a knock on Trump. It's just like he's got other things in mind. And I don't know what they are most of the time.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Like he's negotiating. He's making friends with the person. I tend to just ignore what he says and focus on what he does. So we'll see what he does here. Like I don't think he's going to back off of his immigration policy. And I don't think Mom Donnie is going to back off of his sanctuary city policy. And I think that's very true. end of the day at some point relatively soon in this adventure, they're going to be warring again.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Right. So I don't know. I think Trump likes to have those moments where he comes in and he smiles with the guy and he shakes their hand and he acts like he's really everything I've ever heard about the guy. And this is from dozens of people who have met him and spent time with him is that he's incredibly engaging in person. Yeah. And that people even who hate his guts in politics really like him. Bill Maher. Man to man.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Yeah, Mars said that. Yeah. I mean, but I've heard it from a dozen, you know, dozens of people who are completely outside, not even on the air, don't talk about this stuff. They all say the same thing. And some of them are enemies of Trump. Yeah. And Trump will, no matter what his disagreement with you is, he'll come in and he'll shake your hand and he'll act like you're the most important person in the world. And in a way, he's trying to get the best possible outcome, I think, out of a mom, Donnie president, mayor,
Starting point is 00:08:58 Merrill rain. I don't think that that upside is there's much there, but that is the way he seems to operate. So I am totally with you. Like, if he's actually embracing this guy, like, I think that's terrible. And he should be criticized heavily for it. I don't like the idea of him even doing the glad-handed stuff, especially in public. Like, if you're going to do that, do it behind the scenes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:21 But I think he's trying to, I guess, portray that he's working with him. So I'm not probably as bothered about it as you are. but like, you know, I just honestly don't take too much out of it. Here's the way it looked right after the meeting. Here's Trump with Mondani in the White House. Republican-Li-Sephanic has campaigned multiple times by calling Zeramongani a jihadist. Do you think you're standing next to a jihadist right now in the Oval Office? No, I know.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yes. No, he does. She's out there campaigning and, you know, you say things sometimes in a campaign. It's a very honest answer, actually. person. But you really have to ask her about that, but I don't particularly, I think I met with a very, I met with a man who's a very rational person. I met with a man who really wants to see New York be great again, and I can say again.
Starting point is 00:10:16 No, it doesn't. Because New York was great. Why did you fly here, our trains, trainer? I'll use every form of transit, and I want to make sure that they're all affordable in New York City, and that's why making buses fast and free is a central piece of our campus. Did you? There is a bus. Well, but it would be fluid? That's a lot quicker, too.
Starting point is 00:10:33 You know, I mean, he's working very hard for him to be, it's a long, it's a very, being excusing, he's like arguing. I'll stick up for you. You know, the plane takes you 30 minutes and driving takes you. It sounds like you had a productive discussion, but just days ago you referred to President Trump as a despot who betrayed the country. You said, you'd be his worst nightmare and accused of having a fascist agenda. Are you claiming to retract any of these remarks in order to I think both President Trump and I, we are very clear about our positions and our views. And what I really appreciate about the president is that the meeting that we had focused not on places of disagreement, which there are.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And I've been called much worse than a despot. So it's not that insulting. I think you'll change his mind after we get to work you together. Yes, please. Would you feel comfortable living in New York City under a mom-down administration? Yeah, I would. I really would, especially after the meeting. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:29 What makes you come? Wow. We agree on a lot more than I would have thought. Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist? I've spoken about... That's okay. You can just say yes. It's easier than explaining something to do for a real ally.
Starting point is 00:11:47 So is that a reduction from what you're at right now? Are you committing to maintaining the same level of cops? I've committed over the course of the campaign to maintain the 35,000. That's the headcount that we have through the campaign. not replace them with case workers social work no i've said that's the headcount that we want what we need to do is make sure they can focus on serious crime and he just retained a great police commissioner i believe right yes we did if the newspapers are correct that one they're correct about he uh he retained i think somebody that is a she good friend of some of the people in my family of ivanka
Starting point is 00:12:21 and they say she's really good really competent and he just retained you so that's a good side There's a leader you have to see you know how to follow his lead. Well, look, I hope they have great leaders. This is a man that right now I think is focused on New York City. I really think he has a chance to do a great job. We're going to help him, but I really think there's a chance to do a great job. But I'll let you answer that. You consider yourself the leader of the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I think it's more appropriate for him. I consider myself the next mayor of New York City, and I keep my horizons firmly on New York City, and I appreciate the meeting with the president, which focused again on the five boroughs, and whether New Yorkers could afford to live there. By the way, being the mayor of New York City is a big deal. I always said, you know, one of the things I would have loved to be someday is the mayor of New York City.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Being the mayor of New York, and especially now, because I think you're at... This goes on and on and on. You can go great or it can go in a different direction. And I think you really have a chance to make it. All right, we got it. But all concessions are made by Trump. Not one from Zeran Mondain. Not one.
Starting point is 00:13:27 The guy sticks to his predestined answers. And no matter what the question, he's just going to go to what he's already decided he's going to answer. And that's what he did throughout the entire campaign. That's what he did the whole time. And he's good at it. And he was impressive from the Dom Dani campaign. I will say he puts a smile on all of these policies that have ended the lives of hundreds of millions of people. And he's good.
Starting point is 00:13:53 He's really good at that. I will say, Paddy, you know, I had watched this and I had seen it in full context, you know, with all the back and forth, the reporter questions, all of that. To see it edited together in all those moments at once, there's a lot of them. There's more than I remembered from the first watch of just Trump jumping in and really defending. And defending over and over and over again. That seems like more of a sincere effort than I think I gave it credit for there. That seems like he's trying to win him over to at least get the absolute best possible outcome there. Like he doesn't, I don't, I mean, look, there are obviously big disagreements between the two.
Starting point is 00:14:36 There's going to be those moments. But that doesn't seem like a, you know, one of those where you're just kind of throwing it out there. And like, you know, he's, he's step. I mean, this is, this is not a good thing to say when you're talking about the president of the United States, when there's Democratic fundraising. shooting him all the time. But he's stepping in the fire there. Trump is stepping in the way of the bullets in political context there to protect Mom Donnie from tough questions from reporters that are friendly to Trump.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Right. I mean, he is doing everything again. The concession of, yeah, just say yes. Just say yes. You still think I'm a, I'm a fascist. Gets him out of that tough part. Got him out of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:18 What's he going to say then? Of course he said yes after that. So, I mean, it's So what do you think? What does that mean? Is it just the typical Trump negotiations, the stuff that he normally does, or is there something else at play?
Starting point is 00:15:32 That's what most people think. I don't know, frankly. I don't know. It's just bothersome to me. I don't want to legitimize Zeran Mamdani in his capacity as mayor, but that's what just happened. He's been legitimized now, really,
Starting point is 00:15:48 by the president of the United States. you would live in New York City under this guy, you'd be okay with that, you'd be fine. Where as most wealthy people are at least considering leaving New York City over it, he's going to be an absolute disaster. But maybe it's good that he took this tactic. I don't know. He swoops in afterward and saves New York.
Starting point is 00:16:15 I don't want him to have to do that, though, because that's us saving New York, not Donald Trump. If the federal government has to then bail him out of all of his bad decisions, that affects all of us. Oh, 100%. I mean, I guess the hope is he's going to get him to work on certain things. You know, in a way, this is the type of approach I've always feared that the Democrats
Starting point is 00:16:36 would discover with Donald Trump, which was, you know, kind of kiss his bud and work with them and try to get what you can out of the administration. If they had taken that approach, they would have gotten a lot of stuff. I mean, they would have. Luckily, they just went the he's Hitler approach, which means they never got anything out of him, or at least not many things. I'm glad they never took that approach because it probably would have been effective because stuff like this. Like Trump, you know, Trump is, he has certain things that are part of his ideology, right? You know, you could argue the border. You could argue, you know, you go back and forth on what you think it is. You know, maybe a pro-business vibe. And there's a bunch of different stuff. But like he, there's a lot of stuff that normally,
Starting point is 00:17:18 falls into the hardcore ideological world of politics that don't really affect Trump the same way. True. You know, like something like abortion. Like, I think abortion, like, he worked with the people who he liked and who helped him on a really positive move toward abortion, certainly with the Supreme Court. Right. Like, that is a massive change. And one of the things he should get most credit for of his entire run for two terms.
Starting point is 00:17:43 But, like, I don't think abortion is a core Donald Trump issue that he thinks about. every day on how to make a, you know, how to make the pro-life cause be advanced. Like, I don't think that's what he does. You know, there's other things he thinks about that are really important to all of us. I think a border is more. Crime. Border. I think those things are, tariffs. Tariffs are certainly in the guy of core belief of Donald Trump. Yep. So those things are really, and he does work to move those forth every day. So I think what he looks at it as, is how can I make this a less, a less impactful disaster than it otherwise might be? and, you know, that might be his approach there.
Starting point is 00:18:21 You know, I said that was an honest answer to one of those questions. And there was a small slice of it that was honest. A lot of it wasn't. I mean, a lot of it was like, hey, I think he's going to do a great job for New York City. Donald Trump does not believe that Zohran Mamdani's going to do a great job for New York City. He's saying that because this is his current position. Now, when Mom Donnie violates some immigration thing that he wants in three weeks, he's going to say the opposite because that's what he wants to stay at that time. And that's the way he's, you know, run his presidency and his administration since the beginning, oftentimes to really impressive results.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Yep. So that might just be what happens here. But it is, I am as uncomfortable with it as you are when it comes to the words. Because the words are, look, this guy is not, this is not Eric Adams coming into office as a Democrat. This is not Michael Bloomberg. It's not a normal mayor of New York City. No. Even Democrat mayor of New York.
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Starting point is 00:20:54 Cut four. I've spoken about the Israeli government committing genocide, and I've spoken about our government funding it. And I shared with the president in our meeting about the concern that many New Yorkers have of wanting their tax dollars to go towards the benefit of New Yorkers and their ability to afford basic dignity. And what we see right now is we're in the ninth consecutive year of more than 100,000 school children being homeless in our city. And there's a desperate need not only for the following of human rights, but also the following through on the promises we've made New Yorkers. and I appreciated the meeting we had and the work to be to do. Okay. I just can't.
Starting point is 00:21:29 A genocide from Israel? Stop it. They're terrible at it. Stop it. They're terrible for genocide. They're the worst genociders in the history of genocide. This is, whoever the head coach of genocide is needs to be fired. They're terrible at it.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Oh, my gosh. The population of this area keeps increasing. And they keep telling them, hey, we're about to blow up this building. You need to leave. They're awful. trying to commit genocide. That's not the way to go about it. A little hint there for the Israelis.
Starting point is 00:21:59 And I think Mom Dani can help with this because he seems to have studied some of his deep thinking. But like if you want to look at a genocide, you look at someone like Hitler and try to, you know, do what he did. You know, Mom Dani can help you. I'm sure with many of the tactics can walk you through him. But I will say that doesn't seem what they're doing in Israel at all. It's just so. No. It's so insanely stupid to call it a genocide in the first place. And you know, you have a guy here who is actually solving problems in the Middle East sitting right next to, right, Johnny. And, you know, again, this is a point he could have stepped up and said, first of all, that's a lie. Yeah. Secondly, we're working. We're doing important work there. But again, like. Secondly, we brought, we brought peace to the Middle East. Yeah. You know, at least point that out. At least point that out. What's interesting about Trump here, and this goes back to what.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I was initially talking about. Don't focus on what he says, focus on what he does. What he does is work to make the Middle East peace actually happen. He really has done that. That's what he does. What he says in these situations, a lot of times are letdowns to me. I mean, like, North Korea was the same way. He'd be like, ah, I'm going to blow this guy up.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And two days later, he's my best friend. Like, you know, none of this means anything in real life. Trump doesn't think about these. He does not think about words the way others do, which is a weird. thing to say about somebody, but it's true. He looks at them as tools to get to outcomes. And that is, I think, I think what's happening here, if we see him do things that have him moving towards Mom Donnie, of course, will be highly critical of him. But like, I just don't think that's, doesn't seem to be on the table. This is Glenn Beck.
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Starting point is 00:24:58 Sign up today at glenbeck.com. Back great, Stubergier for Glenn today, AAA 727B-E-C-K. You know, we're talking about Mondani and his meeting with President Trump at the White House on Friday. The guy is just smooth as silk. He's just so smarmy and in an awful way. In an awful way.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Yeah. A bit of a Gavin Newsome way. Like in that. Very much so. It immediately strikes me as really. really irritating. Yes. You know, but like some people don't see through it.
Starting point is 00:25:55 They gravitate to it. Yeah. I mean, he's very much a huckster. You know what I mean? He's one of those people who can kind of like, you know, he's the person, he's a very snake oil salesman type of guy. Big time. But he is very disciplined.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Yeah. And he delivers communism with a smile. With the smile. And it sounds so nice. The smile seems completely fake to me. And I don't understand why anyone could look at it and be like, oh, this is a believably happy person. And like that does not strike me as Mom Donnie at all.
Starting point is 00:26:22 No. But like I do worry about him getting in, in the room with many politicians. I think Trump sees through that or at least. Hope so. He's, I mean, look, the guy's dealt with tougher people than Mom Donnie.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Oh, and, and come out many times ahead of them. So I'm not, I think he knows this game and is good at it and knows how to play it. But like, you know, I just saw Mom Donnie fool an entire city.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Yeah. So I am worried about about, about some of this. Me too. It's natural to be worried about it. He really did just do this to New York. And one of the reasons why he was able to do it, Pat, is because he never let the fail drop.
Starting point is 00:27:02 He didn't let the fail drop through the entire campaign. Now, before the campaign started, we saw who he was all the time. He was on podcasts after podcast, online, constantly admitting to crimes of thought, the evil thought crime, that should have disqualified him from a job like this. He's on board with the Globalize the Intifada stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Yeah. Completely on board with that. He's a pretty clear anti-Semite. He talked about seizing the means of production. And the man talked as if he was reading out of the communist manifesto over and over and over again. And New York City's like, yeah, we're the financial capital of the world. Let's give this a world. Which is why he only had 2% at the start of the year.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Yeah. He had like 2% in polls. He was a... Cuomo was at 40 or something. Well, this is, of course. Like, you know, Mom Dani starts this as an unaccomplished zilch, right? That's who he is. He's never accomplished anything his entire life.
Starting point is 00:27:59 He's a total zero of a human being. He was gifted the worst human being society has produced since World War II to run against in Andrew Cuomo. So, like, I mean, look, there's, I don't, and I mean this even to the point of, I have very low opinion of the voters of New York. I am, by the way, born in New York. I'm, you know, that's, that's, you know, I didn't grow up there for that long. I got out as fast as I could, but I was, you know, there's things about New York. I very much understand as a person who grew up in that area my entire life and was born there. You know, I, you know, loved New York in many ways.
Starting point is 00:28:34 The New York voter, I have very little faith in. They obviously fall for stuff all the time. I don't think with the absence of Andrew Cuomo, this happens. Andrew Cuomo is the core part of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the time, you know, of this problem that made this available as a as an outcome. I don't think him running against a normal Democrat leaves Mom Dani winning this election. Cuomo is uniquely terrible, but uniquely terrible with massive name recognition. So he was able to get himself through.
Starting point is 00:29:04 He wasn't even able to get through his own primary, but was able to get through to a place where he was on the ballot and, you know, made this into a thing. You know, look, he should have never, I think a normal Democrat does not lose that primary of Zoran Mom Donnie. I don't think that there was a huge... Would you say Eric Adams is a normal Democrat? No, I would not say Eric Adams is a normal Democrat. He was a lost cause going into that.
Starting point is 00:29:27 But if you put a person, you know, you think of the sort of like Bloombergish Democrat, which, you know, he's been a Democrat for a very long time. Yes, he started as a Republican, but he's been a Democrat for a very long time. That type of person, I think, smokes Mom Donnie in that primary. He was a Democrat when he was a Republican. Yes, he was.
Starting point is 00:29:45 And then he was an independent. and he was also a Democrat, and then he was a Democrat as a Democrat. Yes. But that type of person, I think smokes Mom Donnie. I don't think it was an outcry for hardcore socialism from New York, but he's going to take it that way. Sadly, that's, yeah, mom Donnie's going to take it that way. Yes. And, you know, I think what's fascinating about this, and I think, I'm curious if you, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:07 feel the same way on this, he went through the entire campaign without dropping the veil one time. Yes, he never backed down on anything he believed, but he's, he never backed down on anything. spoke it smoothly with a smile. Beforehand, he said he was very honest. The campaign started, he became dishonest. He didn't, he never said he wasn't going to do these things that he kept, that he promised previously. He just said them with a smile and massage them until he won.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Yeah. Then it became shining through. One moment of who we actually was is the campaign acceptance speech, the victory speech. Afterward, you agree with that? Oh, absolutely. That's who he was. Yes. The entire time.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And that sounded like a guy who, you know, who just... That sounded like a communist dictator. It sounded like a guy... It sounded like a Joseph Stalin type. Yeah. Sound like a guy who just, you know, was the beneficiary of a military coup. Yeah. That's what it sounded like.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Really did. And he, that's who he is. But then he put the veil back on. And, you know, he's going to go schmooze down. And I think Trump could see through this. And he put the veil back on, though, because he needs money. And he's trying to hit people up for more millions of dollars. You need it for what he wants to do.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Yeah. And he keeps saying that, you know, is, I don't want to come to you for more money, but I'm doing it. And he does it all the time. And so we'll see if that works on people. I can't imagine anybody giving him a dime. How stupid do you have to be to help this guy in his plans? Of course, they voted for him. So I guess they're already there.
Starting point is 00:31:41 And there is a part of me. And it's not that I wouldn't say it's the part of me I'm most proud of. but part of me that's just like, you know, you guys have been fooling with this stuff for a real long time. Uh-huh. Give it a oral. Congratulations. Congratulations. The problem is we're going to pay for it when they fail. Are we?
Starting point is 00:31:58 I think so. I think New York's too big to fail. And certainly Trump will feel that way. And the federal government will bail them out. And that's us. That's us. That sucks. That's why it's not the best part.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I don't think it's a good strategy to like, hey, let's turn over the financial center of the world to communists. Yeah, that's not a good strategy. In a way, it is a pretty interesting experiment. You know, we've been talking about this for so long. I feel like we've had these same conversations for so long in this country. It is fascinating to see this play out in a real stage. And I don't know how he's going to turn out. And this might have been Trump's theory here with this meeting in that there are two ways this could go.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I have a real opinion on which way it's going to go here, which is I think Mom Dani is a true believer. He's not going to back down on any of this stuff. and he's going to try to talk his way out of the hard outcomes of this, right? He's going to try to BS his way through with smiles and nonsense. And he believes he's a good enough talker and he's smart enough that nobody thinks Mom Donnie's smarter than Mom Donnie. And I think he's going to go out there and try to schmooze everybody into thinking this is working the whole time. That's what I think is going to happen.
Starting point is 00:33:05 I think he's going to try to implement all this crap. The other way that this goes is it's a bad outcome for New York, but it's more of the de Blasio outcome. which is de Blasio also was a real true believer getting into that office. And he did try to do a lot of those things. But number one, he wasn't well liked. When he started doing these things, people pushed back against them. There were enough corrupt Democrats in the city that tried to stop him because they had corrupt
Starting point is 00:33:36 interests with other businesses and things like that. And, you know, but while de Blasio did real damage to New York, then he left incredibly unpopular and it was a bad period for New York, it wasn't the catastrophic outcome that could come from Mamdani. So if you can massage Mamdani into a de Blasio, what you get is just normal New York bad, which happens often there, right? Like I think, you know, you saw the same thing with David Dinkins back in the day. You know, that led to Giuliani.
Starting point is 00:34:10 And maybe there's something. You never know how these things turn out. You never know. You know, I mean, a lot of people who love the Trump second term are kind of like now saying, I'm kind of glad he lost in 2020 because it brought this new guy in 2024. And a lot of people appreciate that. So you never know how these things turn out. I do think it's fascinating to look at his approach to people like this, though,
Starting point is 00:34:33 because, you know, I think one thing that a lot of a lot of his friends, people who really support Donald Trump say and believe, and I think there's something to this, is he really is at times tougher on his friends than he is, his enemies. You know, I mean, he... MTG's a good example of that. Yes, Marjorie Taylor Green. She's like, hey, I really like these, you know, sex abuse files to come out. Okay, I'm resigning.
Starting point is 00:35:03 It's like, I get, I'm not, I wouldn't say I'm a Marjorie Taylor Green stand myself. You know, but kind of a fascinating. turn there, Pat. I think if you were to compare the two, he's way harder on her. Way harder. He's been on Mondami. By a lot. At least since he won.
Starting point is 00:35:22 By a lot. You know, he was harder than the campaign. Yes. Yeah, that's true. He mentioned during that one part that I thought was a little damaging, honestly, from Trump's answers in real life was when they're like, hey, you know, are you standing next to a jihadist? That's what, you know, Elise Stefanik said.
Starting point is 00:35:37 And she's like, ah, she's running a campaign. She says all sorts of stuff. It's like, that kind of ruins. She's got a campaign to run here. And like now everyone is going to say, well, you're saying this now, but Trump said you didn't even mean it. Like, I have a tough spot to put her in. Yeah. But I am curious here as to how, you know, this plays out.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Like, you know, Marjorie Taylor Green, I think if you have any criticism, I mean, there was many, but like, you have criticisms of Marjorie Taylor Green. It was like she was almost so supportive to Trump. You'd never thought she'd ever disagree with them ever in her entire existence. And then, you know, she has. A couple of disagreements on things, by the way, Trump previously supported when it comes to the Epstein files. Yeah. And, you know, she's tossed to the side.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Now, I had real problems with Marjorie Taylor Green in the way she was approaching healthcare, for example. Oh, yeah. And, like, basically arguing for the Democrats' position on it. Yeah. Maybe that's more what this is about for Trump than Epstein. I don't know. But that was a shocking turn.
Starting point is 00:36:38 And the fact that she's just kind of on a Friday night released the video. I was like, all right, see you. I mean, maybe she got an offer from the. view or something and that's going to pay her a lot more money than she's making in Congress. And, you know, you might notice that she's staying until after her money kicks in. Oh, yes, it's a pension situation. The pension situation. So she's going to be paid for life.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I mean, can you blame her? I know. I mean, if you had gone through this and you're like, yeah, again, I, you'd stay. Most people are going to take, you're not going to drop out two weeks before you get it. That's true. That is true. I mean, and look, she's got a lot, she's very well off, merger, Taylor Green. This is not someone who's like borderline, like, you know, I don't know if I'm going to be able to make rent next month.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Like, she's done very well for herself over the years. And I think she probably will go into media or something and do very well for herself after this. But that is a fascinating breakup. I don't think I would. It happens so quickly. Wow. Like head spinningly quick. What do you make of it?
Starting point is 00:37:43 Is it just a fascinating? Is it him just trying to keep his base in line and saying, look, you don't do this. Don't come out and have these big public disagreements with me. I want you to fall in line. If you want to talk to me about that stuff, talk to me behind the scenes about it. Privately, yeah. You know, and she was very outspoken about the Epstein thing from the very beginning. I don't think she changed her view on it at all, honestly.
Starting point is 00:38:07 I don't think so. Here we are. Here we are. So she's leaving. Done January 5th. Her leaving Congress is big for votes. I mean, there's only, there are very small margins here. Losing a Congresswoman, I don't know what the, I honestly haven't looked into what the
Starting point is 00:38:22 replacement process is how long that's going to take. I don't think it's going to be a super long gap there, but that's a gap where really you can't, it's going to be very difficult to win votes. Yeah. So just from the numbers perspective, it's important. And then you add on to, I mean, you know, but he was promising to primary her. Yeah. You know, as many Republicans have found out,
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Starting point is 00:41:56 Pat and Stu for Glenn. Triple 877B.ECC. You know, with Mom, Donnie, continuing to say that, He still believes. He said it in the past. He still believes it today that Donald Trump is a fascist. Would a fascist have even met with this guy? People don't understand what these terms mean.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah, they don't, do they? He certainly doesn't. Would a fascist have sat there and helped you through that press conference? No. Not on your life. You know what a fascist would have done is what I recommended, and that's have you arrested for the things you lied about on your outside. application to come to this country and deported back to Uganda.
Starting point is 00:42:39 That's what a fascist would have done. Or just somebody who cared about the law. But I haven't heard any, I haven't even heard the definitive answer on that. Did he in fact lie on his application to come to the United States? Do we know about that? I don't, I mean, it certainly hasn't been litigated. Yeah. There were lots of rumors in reporting on that, whether that's true or not.
Starting point is 00:43:01 It's hard to know. It's kind of in that category of like, did it ill, you know? marry her brother. Pretty much, yes. I'm going to say yes. There's a lot of indications that point that direction. But we just leave it alone. Let's not even look into it.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Because that would, how hard would that be to prove? You know, it's, in a way, it's sort of like the TikTok ban. Sure, we passed a law and it was signed by the president and passed through both Hall of Congress and the Supreme Court unanimously upheld it. But what if we just don't do it? What if we just never?
Starting point is 00:43:34 What if we don't? What if we just don't? What if we just don't talk about it? about it. Then this. Then this. And what's this? This is great. Everything's great. Donnie's here. Omar's here. Tick-Toc's here. It's all here. It's great. What a great outcome. We get this. This is fantastic. Congratulations America. What a wonderful world. We did it. We did it. We did it. We solved all the problems. If you just kind of shrug your shoulders and act like it didn't happen, then I guess it didn't happen. I love it. All right, we got to get
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Starting point is 00:48:33 A few. Just a couple that are somewhat eccentric, maybe, you might say. Okay. Like when he dumped a dead bear in Central Park in New York City. What else is you going to do with a dead bear? Well, it's the natural thing to do. You're right. I don't know why they even bring that up.
Starting point is 00:48:49 You put it in Times Square? No, you put it in Central Park. Obviously. Let's put it this way. When you get to the position that you have a dead bear in your possession and you're driving in Manhattan, where do you go? You go to Central Park. From that point of the story, it's a totally sensible decision. The previous parts of it.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Not so much. It's not necessarily something we need to focus on. How about when he sawed the head off a whale? I don't remember why he did that or really the circumstances surrounding it. I do remember that he did it. Well, this is the thing. You've never been in the position where you've had a dead whale. And a saw handy.
Starting point is 00:49:24 What are you going to do? Obviously, if you got the saw and you see the dead whale, you're going to saw its head off. What else are you going to do with it? When you have a hammer, everything's a nail. When you have a saw, you're just going to cut the head off of whatever's in front of you. And if it's a whale, thank God it was a whale and not a child. Yes. You know, with the Kennedy's past, who knows what could have happened there?
Starting point is 00:49:45 But this is just a stupid dead whale. Wasn't even alive. He didn't even decapitate a live whale. No, that's right. It's a dead whale. So you can't blame him for killing the whale. It was already dead. It was already dead.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Look, I don't know if whales have souls, you know? I mean, you don't know when it does to create a corpse normally, but like, I think with whales, it's probably okay. Probably fine. It's probably fine. For my money. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:06 You know, again, I haven't done too much deep thought on it. You haven't? Really? No, because you know what? I've never been in that position, Pat. Yeah, that's right. I can judge him easily. I might say, oh gosh, don't cut the head off a whale with a song. But walk a mile in his shoes.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Yeah, exactly. On the beach, finding dead whales. What are you going to do? Right. If you're there, there's a whale there, there's a saw there. Yeah. What else are you supposed to do with those two things? Put some thought into it, people.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Would have been better if he cut his own foot off? Right. No. No. No, it would have been worse, I think. I think it would have been worse if he cut his own foot off. I think so. And cut the whale's head off.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Yeah. So I think he made the only decision. How about the time he claimed that a worm ate part of his brain? Look, that's more on the worm than him. I don't see how he gets blamed for that. That's a worm issue. And it's probably why he wanted to decapitate the whale. He was thinking about, look at what this worm did to me.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Right. You know, I don't want this whale to get inside. You never know. And you never know. And you never know. then he denied that he took a bite out of a barbecued dog on a trip to South Korea in 2010. I mean, he set a photo with that indication, but he, you know. He acted like he was taking a bite out.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Right. But he claimed it was a goat, not a dog. Right. Which, of course, obviously, we've all eaten entire goats. It's sitting here. Colorful existence, Pat. Of course, you're not even getting into his. minor issues that have occurred with women in his life.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Let's put it that way. Have there been some? There's been a couple, Pat. Huh. Weird. He wrote about them in a very lengthy book that unfortunately his wife found and sadly ended her life over allegedly. Oh, man. These antics.
Starting point is 00:52:01 But you'd think a person in that perspective, one thing he's learned, number one, is that People treat your wife better. That was the number one thing. That's number three. I was going to say number one. Number one. Watch your placement of bears. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Placement of bears. Watch what you saw off of things. Of whales especially. Yeah. Of whales especially. Any marine life, I would say. So you have those two things. And then the third thing would be maybe don't do things to your what.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Like if you're going to, because you don't, this is an interesting point, Pat. You don't legally have to get married. if you want to live a certain type of lifestyle, you are allowed to do that. And not be married? What you typically want to do is just not be married when you're doing it. Now, that might have, there might be moral issues with such a thing. But like, generally speaking, you're not, it's more, it's not as frowned upon, I suppose,
Starting point is 00:52:55 in our society. If you're doing these things in a promiscuous way outside of marriage, because then you're not necessarily violating that covenant that you've made with the person that you, that is your spouse. Okay. Now, you look at this. I think I'm with you so far. You think so.
Starting point is 00:53:09 I think so. You look a little confused, but I think you're there. I think I'm with you. Now, RFK Jr. has not necessarily gone down that path. In fact. No, not necessarily, because he is married to Cheryl Hines.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I always want to say Sherry or Terry, and that is not who he's married to. Cheryl. He's married to Cheryl Hines, who is in the Larry David thing. Yeah. Curbure enthusiasm. Right. Was Larry's wife.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Not a number of things, but that's probably the most recent big one. It seems to be the thing that she's best known for, I would argue. And, you know, she has apparently released, I think, a book recently, has been out on tour. I think she's happy that this came out after the tour seemingly ended. Because I wouldn't necessarily want to get questions about it. I think she would have liked it if it never happened in the first place, but maybe that's just me. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:02 I don't know what she's thinking. She might appreciate the fact that he's, you know, working on poems for other women. Creativity is important. It is important. And maybe he runs these by her to see if they work. I don't know. But he was writing poetry to Olivia Nutsi, who's a journalist, and she actually says that she fell in love with him and made the mistake of telling him that, apparently.
Starting point is 00:54:27 She's made a lot of mistakes. Yes, seemingly. Many mistakes she's made. And we were learning about more and more of them seemingly every day. But we knew about this RFK Jr thing. To quickly go through the story, if you don't remember it, she profiled RFK Jr. She's a big journalist. And, you know, like young, had an incredible rise.
Starting point is 00:54:53 She worked for the New York Times at one point. I think it's Vogue now, right? I think it was the New Yorker or New York Magazine. Okay. Two. Off the top of the head, I can't remember which one it was. But she had gone to, she was Daily Beast. She's now at Vanity Fair after getting rewarded for all of this incredible behavior when it comes to journalistic ethics.
Starting point is 00:55:11 But when she was with New York Magazine or New York or whichever one it was, she profiled RFK Jr. And afterward, they fell in love together, apparently. Now, they had never consummated the relationship. This is different than when she- Supposedly. When she fell in love with Mark Sanford, and then they did consummate the relationship, which we- And I believe she consummated the relationship also with Keith Oberman. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Which is fun. And oh, have you gone through the timeline of that one? Not entirely, no. Can I walk you through it real quick? Sure. Because I think you're going to like it. Sure. I think what's going to happen after I walk you through this timeline, Pat?
Starting point is 00:55:46 You're going to have interesting questions. Really? Yes. Okay. Okay. Olivia Nudzi. Currently, 32 years old. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Okay. That's 2025. In 2024, there was the blow up of this RFK Jr. stuff. and Keith Oberman was, it was known that they had a relationship at one point. And you'll see that relationship constantly referred to in one way and one way only, which is she was 21 years old and he was 55. That's what you'll read. And you'll think to yourself, wow, that's quite an age difference.
Starting point is 00:56:16 And then you're supposed to stop thinking about it. And I want to start, I want to encourage you for a moment to continue thinking about it. Okay. Livy Nootzee currently 32 years old. Keith Oberman, in 2024, was quoted as saying that he hadn't talked to her in a decade. Now, at that point, she's 31 years old. Little backing evidence of this.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Ryan Liza, the current fiancé, referred to her time, which began after the Keith Oberman debacle, as a lost decade. So we're pretty consistent here in the time frame of that being 10 years. He has not talked to her in 10 years. It's a lost decade for Ryan Liza. Okay. So 31.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Now, if we want to help me with the math here, 31 minus 10 would be what? 21. 21. That's what we know about this relationship. They dated when he was 55 and she was 21. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:15 I think I see where this is going. Now, interestingly enough, we have a little bit more about the information, information about this particular relationship. From, again, Keith Olderman himself. When he was defending himself. about the rumors that he paid $15,000 in gifts to Olivia Nutsi. And his defense, I want to make clear, this is Keith Oberman's defense, is that it wasn't
Starting point is 00:57:43 that much money to spend on her because they had to go through four different Christmases, birthdays, anniversaries, whatever. Why? Because they, quote, lived together for four plus, four years, four. for plus years. That picture 17? 16 and a half maybe? That plus is doing a lot of legal work. Wow.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Because if that plus is a month, maybe he's on the right side of barely legal, but she's 17. And he's 40, almost 50, 51? Oh my gosh. Correct me if I'm wrong on the math. Maybe I am. But that is every piece of evidence we know about this.
Starting point is 00:58:29 And he's the one that said four plus years. And Pat, the wording's important there. Man. Four plus years of living together. Now, I don't know about you, Pat. But some in our society have developed the tradition of at least going on a couple of dates before you move in together. You know, now I know we should wait until marriage is the maybe more appropriate way of going about this. however if you're if you're just going to move in with someone typically what occurs is a courtship of some sort now i don't know as a 51 year old man how you court someone who is 17 or 16 years old keith oberman might now maybe there's some miscommunication here maybe the word decade i haven't talked to her in 10 years just throwing him out and it was really only seven or eight it would still be very interestingly uh creepy but uh maybe he'd be a
Starting point is 00:59:25 on the right side of the law there, but might, it might, the truth might be that he wasn't. He seemingly, Pat, took her directly out of high school and they moved in together. That is like right where this line is, if what has been reported is accurate. At the oldest, she was 18, right? At the oldest, I would say. Seemingly, again, like, maybe he can correct this. Maybe he was flippant with his words when he said four, because remember, he was trying
Starting point is 00:59:53 to defend himself. Both he and Lizza have said. It was 10 years. Just 10 years. Both sides of it have confirmed that. And everyone has confirmed it's 21 years old. They were dating. The thing I think people are losing here is when you hear they were dating at 21, you assume they started dating when she was 21.
Starting point is 01:00:11 What actually seemingly happened is that their relationship ended when she was 21. Right. Right. And by the way, we should also note that both parties, both Lizzie and Olivia Nutsi, both basically seemed to claim that he was stalking her after it ended. This guy's just okay? This guy got how many jobs after all this happened? It's amazing, really.
Starting point is 01:00:36 His entire public career outside of ESPN seems to have occurred in this time period. And he was so indignant to over the jewelry thing. He was like, what was I supposed to do? Give her Walmart gift certificates? Yeah, right. No, Mr. Alitist. No, we would never expect that. of you.
Starting point is 01:00:55 No, we expect you. I mean, to be clear, we expect a person like you to buy your teenager with a lot of money. Right. I actually, it was consistent with what I thought of him, which is, yes, he purchased his teenagers at expensive prices. I wouldn't think, Pat, for example, he would purchase his teenagers cheaply. No, you're right.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I would be surprised if he did that. Yeah. We saw that with Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein, to do a very valid comparison. was targeting teenagers in high school with much lower sums. Yeah, 200 bucks. Right, that's nothing compared to what Oberman was offering for whatever activities occurred here. Congratulations, Keith.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Wow. So that, he's a big spender. That is a sidetrack. We did get sidetracked off the air kitchen, but it's, I got to say, Pat, my favorite part of the story. I got to say, and no one's focusing on that part of it. No what people are talking about over it. I heard someone say, like, Oberman, gosh, you know, these things. the people in this are so shady, he actually comes off as good.
Starting point is 01:01:57 All he did was give her a bunch of money. Does he come off as good? No. Does he? Because number one, he's being accused of stalking, which is normally the type of thing that gets you in trouble. But apparently in this case, we're just all going to shrug our shoulders at it. But I am curious at the timeline is interesting.
Starting point is 01:02:19 You know, sometimes Pat, a successful movie franchise will occur. Three movies get made. And then a couple years go by and they go back and they would say, well, what was the origin story? I'd love to know that. What's the origin story of a 51-year-old elite media member hooking up and moving in with a high schooler? What is that story? Unreal.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Like, were they at the same high school dance? How did it happen? I'm so curious. I would love to know. Triple-8-7-27-Bekmore. Come on. One minute. Holiday time is high crime season, but not all crimes should be addressed the same way.
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Starting point is 01:04:06 we were just talking about the Oberman thing, uh, uh, or here. I would just say, release the Oberman files. Yes,
Starting point is 01:04:13 please. Yes, please. There's got to be. Yes, please. More information. Yeah. You know, maybe it's just Keith admitting the timeline,
Starting point is 01:04:19 whatever that is, but release the Oberman files. I would love to know. Me too. Just, you know, as an interested observer. Me too. Uh,
Starting point is 01:04:29 because that timeline is very strange. Yeah. To say the least. Yeah. And maybe borderline or maybe over the line illegal. It could be. By the way, in this process of following this timeline, and I did look up the age of consent in New York,
Starting point is 01:04:49 which is, to I would say no one's surprise, 17. Stunning. Stunning. And by the way, you know, this event, whatever happens here with, with Olberman sets her life down this course, which is awful. I mean, you know, she seems to be talented as a writer and a journalist, although some of the writing in this book seems to be pretty bad, RFK Jr.'s style writing.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Maybe we'll finish that off here in a second. But like, you know, you start off when you're a teenager and you're taken out of what seems to be a bad home, I think this is by her telling of the story that she had a rough situation at home at this period. and Liz, I think, said this as well, that, you know, you go, you leave that and, you know, this, this man in his 50s comes to, quote unquote, rescue you out of this life, you know, it's another similarity to the Epstein stuff. Oh, it's interesting, Pat. Yeah, a lot of those victims were very troubled, had very troubled lives. And here was a guy, a really rich guy, offering them a different path.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Hey, you know what? Come over and give me a massage and I'll take you around the world. Give you $200 every time. Now, obviously, you know, Oberman wouldn't do it that cheaply. No, he would not. Would you say, like, I don't know, I was going to,
Starting point is 01:06:13 sometimes we get down on all these roads, I want to make sure I summarize something appropriately. But would you say that the one difference between Oberman and Epstein is the amount that they paid? Allegedly. Yes. Again, that was a question. I had a question mark at the end of that, by the way.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Yeah, right. Okay. Would you say? Would I say that that is the one difference. I would say it's possible. Yeah. You'd say it's possible. I'd say it's possible.
Starting point is 01:06:36 That's the only difference. And you say allegedly. Allegedly possibly. And to Keith's one very brief argument on his behalf, frequency might be also the issue. Yeah. He was more of a, he didn't want these like these flings. He was looking for a lasting relationship with a teenager. It's not trying to.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Right. Right. It wasn't like he was. constantly at high schools that we know of. We just know that at one time, allegedly.
Starting point is 01:07:04 It was apparently at a high school dance somewhere and met somebody. It was, you know, not even graduated from high school, maybe. Perhaps. We don't know. Again, the details are important right here. We need to know the timelines. I'm sure we'll see him out on his balcony on the west side of New York and he'll be talking about it. I'm sure.
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Starting point is 01:08:34 kids' school? Find out at glenbeck.com. It's Pat and Stufer Glenn this week. All right, we took a little detour on our story of RFK Jr. You think? An interesting one. And it very, very interesting one on Keith
Starting point is 01:09:11 Oberman. But RFK Jr. has a little issue here now. With the poetry, he was writing for his I guess just online lover, text lover kind of person. I mean, who knows what they were working towards? Who knows? Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:29 But it hadn't been consummated yet, unlike the other perp, some of her previous affairs. Okay. Allegedly. But she did claim she was in love with him. And I guess that was returned. I don't know. Seems like it was reciprocated. We don't have all the details on that.
Starting point is 01:09:44 We don't have all the details of some of it. And we can't, the details that we do have, we can't tell you all about. Yeah, unfortunately. We could give you one poem that he wrote to her. Sort of. I mean, it's still a little suggestive-ish. But he wrote her poetry. And again, I don't think he ran this by Cheryl, his wife.
Starting point is 01:10:05 She's a creative type, though. You'd think maybe she'd have a good opinion on it. She might. You know? She might. Let me ask you this, Pat. Ever written a poem and a text? I have not.
Starting point is 01:10:18 in your entire life. Never. No. You don't mean either. Are we the weird ones? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Here's one of the poems he wrote, the only one we can really tell you about on the air. I mean to squeeze your cheeks to force your mouth open. I am a river. You are my canyon. This is awful. This is the good stuff? This is the stuff we can actually read? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:47 I mean to flow through you. I mean to subdue and tame you, my love. Well, he wrote love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Isn't that beautiful and romantic? That's a good. Tell me, your wife wouldn't love that. I mean, who wouldn't swoon?
Starting point is 01:11:03 Who wouldn't? Uh, that's something like that. Are you kidding me? That is beautiful. That is really, really lovely. How, oh, very strange. Uh-huh. So weird.
Starting point is 01:11:13 And I will say, you should thank us for not walking you any deeper. down this particular road because you do not want to know. I feel like there's unfortunately many people who will go and read more about this and learn new sexual terms I wasn't familiar with
Starting point is 01:11:31 and will then do the math as to what RFK Jr's role is in that particular process and want to jump out of a building. So I will say you should not go research any of this today.
Starting point is 01:11:47 That would be my, I certainly don't Google anything you find in the articles about it. But does not seem to be, I don't understand how these things, like, I can, I don't understand how the relationships stay together after such things. You know, like he's still married. She was out kind of like defending him on the campaign trail, or I don't know, campaign trail, I guess is the wrong word, on her book tour. But like, you know, talking about how she, you know, is. Because it came out that they had a relationship through texting, right?
Starting point is 01:12:17 during that time. I don't think the poems, the poetry had come out yet. I think he sort of denied it at the time. But again, you know, the word of a Kennedy when it comes to relationships, I would not prioritize too high. Yeah. On your sort of pyramid of trust. But it's pretty, pretty rough. I would say some of the, at least alleged topics breached, I wouldn't say particularly, don't sound very healthy.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Now, it was Ryan, it was the- When you're talking about Make America Healthy again, you might want to listen to RFK Jr. on his workout routine and less about his sexual exploits. Yeah. Because those don't seem healthy at all.
Starting point is 01:13:00 No. It was Ryan Liza, her fiance, or former fiancé, who found this stuff, right? And released it. Yeah, and he, yes, I think that's,
Starting point is 01:13:12 he did discover that, he was not the initial person who discovered. I believe, one of her media like mentors was the first one who brought it the attention of New York magazine, I believe was the publication. And we should know it. It had nothing to do with the fact that she was sleeping around or wanting to sleep around
Starting point is 01:13:33 or any of that. What it had to do was a supposed violation of journalistic ethics. That was the problem with all of this coming out because, you know, she had profiled the guy. Right. You can't be. That's a problem. Again, it's one thing to have an affair, which is problematic enough for many. But I will say when you're doing it in that realm of sleeping with your source, sleeping with the person, you're not only just a source, but someone you're profiling.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Like, because of all this, Pat, I don't know if you even watched it at the time, but because of all of this, there was a famous tweet from Olivia Nunesi back in 2015 where she said, why does Hollywood always portray female journalists sleeping with her? sources. And she was angry about this. She wrote a piece about it. And the picture and the conversation at the time was of Kate Mara, who is an actress playing the role of Zoe Barnes on House of Cards. And did you watch House of Cards at all back in the day? First of all, House of Cards, at least the early seasons, is fantastic. It is a great series. It's really, really good. And Zoe Barnes is this young female reporter who is trying to get ahead. And, and and can't. She's writing stupid stories that nobody cares about and decides
Starting point is 01:14:48 to take it to a new level. One of the things she does in this is to sleep with her source, which is a congressman played by Kevin Spacey. And that was the conversation at the time. Like, why are you portraying women like journalists like this?
Starting point is 01:15:04 They don't do this. Now we've seen many examples of them doing this and Olivia Nutsi became one of the examples of doing this. What's funny about that particular show. Because because of that, I went back and started watching it again. And yes, she does sleep with her source, Kevin Spacey.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Another thing she does, which never gets any criticism, was she went to him and said, basically, I want to get stories from you. I will print whatever you want without any questions. Like she's just like, I will do your bidding to get ahead, right? That eventually leads to sex. That's how it starts. And no journalist seems to have any denial on that one. There's not like, there's no articles, no think pieces written about it.
Starting point is 01:15:51 You know, women journalists shouldn't be portrayed as writing anything politicians want them to say. Yet, gosh, I see that reflected in the reporting maybe more than the sexual escapades. Yeah. Wow. Hmm. For his part, Ryan Lizza said, I can't say there weren't any signs of a problem with her. No? I did find it odd that Olivia was simultaneously reading Robert Green's The Art of Seduction and Maureen Callahan's Ask Not, The Kennedys and the Women they destroyed.
Starting point is 01:16:26 So she's reading both of those books at the same time. And that might have been a clue to him. Let's see that there's a particular focus, maybe a particular obsession. Yeah. You're a little something going on behind the scenes there. do you do so and this is a i don't know if this is a question you can answer pat but i'm going to ask it anyway uh look a lot of people in the audience really like rfk junior uh and you know some of the things that he you know talks about i can get behind like i'm uh sure i'm in agreeance with him
Starting point is 01:16:57 that we should not be mandating a vaccine for example of any sort i like that should be a decision made by a family and so i am with him on that there's several issues he's a big bitcoin guy and I appreciate his newly found belief in that. He's been fairly good on the border. Recently has been good on the border. So there are issues I agree with him on. Do you get like the heartthrob thing from him though? No, I do not. I, you know, he's not my type. So maybe that's it. Maybe that's it. Maybe that's it. I will say for a 70 year old man in good shape. Yeah, he is. Works out in jeans all the time, which is always an interesting thing. But it does seem to be in good shape, right? Yeah, yeah, he does.
Starting point is 01:17:40 There are a lot of things, though, when I look at them, I just, I don't necessarily get it from a, especially from a 30-year-old, glamorous female reporter. Like, I don't. Yeah. But, I mean, again, I'm not a 30-year-old, famous, glamorous female reporter, even though I play one on TV. I noticed that. Yeah, I noticed that.
Starting point is 01:17:59 So maybe that's it. I don't know. That one's a fascinating one. Maybe the ladies in the audience can chime in on that. I don't know my The appeal of RFK Jr. Because you got the voice thing, which is tough for him, man,
Starting point is 01:18:10 and that's tough in a lot of different ways. I know it's caused by some health issue. Yeah. So it's, it seems like he's been out on the sun a lot. Like it just been, like you know, he kind of got that like,
Starting point is 01:18:21 leathery sort of vibe, which you know, maybe, you know, some ladies kind of seem to like. I mean, it's like maybe a outdoorsy, you know, rough sort of a guy.
Starting point is 01:18:32 But again, he's a Kennedy. He hasn't been outdoors. I don't think all that much. I think he spent most of his time in the courtrooms. He's been like a part-time lumberjack or anything? No, I don't think so. That's weird.
Starting point is 01:18:43 But again, he, I am also a person who's never cut the head off a whale. Good point. So that seemed like an outdoorsy activity. Maybe he is outdoors. He's more outdoorsy than I realize. I think that actually is part of the stated charm between. Right. What about the dead bear?
Starting point is 01:18:59 Have you ever dumped a dead bear in Central Park? No, you probably haven't. Not like, not even the ones, Pat. has a worm ever eaten part of your brain no not one not that i know of i wanted uh i lived in and worked in new york for several years almost never even went to a central park i tried to stay out of it as much as possible i don't i think i might have gone once but uh when we were there for what three years i've been there a few times but not many not many i don't even understand it why is there a giant park in the middle of the city i don't get it just for green space i think right
Starting point is 01:19:32 because all the concrete around it, then somebody thought, hey, you know what, let's put about a miles worth of green here. You know, parks, like there's a,
Starting point is 01:19:41 there's a, we used to work near Bryant Park in New York. Yeah. Which is a block. And it's really nice. Like people watch movies. They do movies in the park. They have like ice skating during,
Starting point is 01:19:52 during Christmas season. That seems to me to be an appropriate park. Central Park's really big. Really, really big. I don't understand the reasoning. I don't, other than to give billionaire row some nice views, I don't really get it.
Starting point is 01:20:08 And I think that's the whole point right there. I think you might have just put your finger on it. That's probably why it stays. At the beginning, it was built, you know, seemingly a totally different reason, but it wasn't that developed. You just, you think with the amount of real estate and how much it's worth. Yeah. You know, I, I, you know, maybe I'm the only person in America in the position of really not
Starting point is 01:20:28 getting the Central Park thing, but I don't get it at all. You just want to concrete it? You just want to force some concrete over. I put a nice cul-de-sac in there. You know, build some nice homes for these people, for these billionaires. They're all so high in the air. Maybe they want to get closer to the ground. 8-727-B-E-C-K.
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Starting point is 01:22:39 Even Tesla hasn't made yet. Yeah, they supposedly. It's interesting because we have, you know, tariffs that were put on by the, you know, during the Biden administration on Chinese electric vehicles and whether you can import them. And the tariffs are, you know, over 100%. So it basically makes it impossible
Starting point is 01:22:55 for anyone to import one. Yeah. It would double the price. Because they're too expensive. No one would pay the price. But I will say you look at the cars that they are producing. They are, some of them are legitimately impressive. They are very, very fast, like, you know, the Teslas are.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Or like, you know, the lucid air is or whatever. Very, very fast, very luxurious, incredible features. You know, place and things like, you know, giant screens in the back seats for, like, people with recliners in the back seats, all sorts of sorts of sorts. storage. I mean, like some of them, and they look pretty good. There are some people car people I talk to or that are like, well, they're not built with the same quality.
Starting point is 01:23:33 And I think that's probably true, but also, you know, they seem to be built of decent quality. The technology developing very, very fast there. They have a new charger that they've unveiled, which is like, you know, five minutes from zero to 400 miles or something ridiculous like that. Wow. Which is much better than even the chargers. And the Tesla.
Starting point is 01:23:54 It feels like a gas fill up. Yeah. It's like you're filling up your gas tank. That's what I've been waiting for. Yeah, really. And the Tesla superchargers here are impressive. Like they're pretty fast, but they're not that fast. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:06 And like they've, it's interesting because we're now at that point where we're, we're keeping a lot of the Chinese stuff out, which I can understand, right? Like, there are reasons why I don't like the protectionist reasoning for it that a lot of people associate with. But, you know, this is an adversary and there's some real reasons to limit our interactions with them. But it is when they're developing things that a lot of people are reporting are on the level or above the level. AI is another example of what we're able to accomplish here. You know, separating ourselves completely from the top ends of technology isn't always a good thing. You know, the Soviet Union tried to do that back of the day and wound up with, you know, horrible cars.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Every communist country tried that in the day. I'm not saying we're doing that. We're not doing that level. But and we certainly have much better technology. that the Soviet Union did, but it does make me nervous that we will lose access to big developments like this. We better. I think this is why Trump is so aggressive on stuff like AI.
Starting point is 01:25:07 And I know it's, it makes me squeamish at times. And I think it makes a lot of his supporters squeamish at times about how aggressive he's being. But I think that's why he's doing it. I think he's really worried about one of these other countries taking the lead and then taking over an industry like that. And then where are we? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:22 And not only economically, but also technology. technologically. Now, you got it, you got the Tesla. Yes. It finally came. And you let it drive you to work? Yeah. It will do it. You're completely comfortable with it? Completely is not the right word. I am blown away by how impressive of a feat it is for this thing to drive me. That's incredible. That it can do it. Incredible. Maybe it's worth talking more about the experience.
Starting point is 01:25:50 But it is, it's not perfect. And it's almost surprising that they like let it get on the market like this, not from Tesla's perspective, but from like the government's perspective. Yeah. They're always so like, hey. Because things can go wrong, right?
Starting point is 01:26:03 Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The other day, I was just sitting at a red arrow. It just went. Oh, no, really? Yeah, I had like slam on the brakes.
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Starting point is 01:26:34 your Falcons, uh, lost. I'm a big Falcons fan as you know. Not Falcons. Let's talk more about the falcons. Darn Eagles. Lost. Sad. Bad.
Starting point is 01:26:44 It's only the third time this year, though, right? Yeah, that's not bad. I mean, you put it in perspective. I'm not all that way. I mean, you'd love to sweep a division rival. You'd love to put the division out of reach in November. These things don't always come to you, though, unfortunately. You lost to the hated cowboys.
Starting point is 01:26:58 You hate that hurt. That hurt. I mean, I would argue their Giants loss earlier this year was worse. Like, they got legitimately handled and beaten by the New York Giants the entire game. They're weird because. This one was just, you know, lots of penalties and turnovers and weird stuff they don't normally do. I wouldn't say I'm all that worried about it, but it did suck. Yeah, I will say.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Look, the Cowboys deserve a little bit of happiness. I like the people at Dallas. I don't like the Cowboys fans, but they deserve a little bit of happiness around here for once in a while. So you're willing to grant them that one? No, I'm not at all willing to do it at the time. You don't have a lot of choice right now. I do fall back, though. They still have a, I think, two and a half game lead and the Super Bowl ring.
Starting point is 01:27:36 So I'll take that. That's kind of the this week. Triple 8-7-27-B-E-C-K. Interesting tweet from the Border Patrol. We're going to get into here in just one minute. Yeah, very interesting. Let me talk to you about real estate agents I trust.com
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Starting point is 01:30:23 It's none of your business, right? I should be able to do it. Why would Border Patrol even be talking about that? Well, they have a bit of an addendum to the initial statement. Uh-huh. Because normally you think, I would not mind it all if they just stated, it is not a crime to spend over $10,000. And leave it at that. Period.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Period. That's the end of the tweet. Yeah. Okay. It's not how the tweet ended, however. Oh, boy. The tweet went on and said, it's not a crime to carry over $10,000.
Starting point is 01:30:52 We just want to know about it. You know what? Tough. You don't get to. And there's no reason for you to know about it. Why would you know about it? If I want to carry $100,000 in cash and put it in my car and you pull me over for some reason, I don't have to tell you.
Starting point is 01:31:13 you about the $100,000 I have in my car? Show me the law that says, I've got to tell Border Patrol about any cash I have on hand. There isn't one. So why would I tell you about it? It's unbelievable. I mean, that's civil asset forfeiture stuff. And they're just trying to take it from you. They just want to take it from you.
Starting point is 01:31:38 For the uninitiated, Pat, civil asset forfeiture. It's a big jihad of both. Yours and mine. I can't stand it. Oh, my gosh. It's so unconstitutional. I don't understand how it continues to happen. Describe it.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Okay, if you get pulled over by Border Patrol or you get pulled over by, you know, state police, whatever, you're speeding. And then they decide that they're going to search your car for whatever reason, like a dog hits on your car. And they find cash in your car. And they can confiscate that. and it's very difficult for you to get your money back. Even if you've done nothing wrong, they can take your $10,000 if you have it on you, and they don't have to charge you with a crime.
Starting point is 01:32:28 They can just take your money. Yeah. And then it's your job. It's your, it's your obligation to go to them and file for your own money for them to give it back to you. And they don't have to give it back to you. And they don't have to give it back to you. until you, you know, go to court many, many times and many people lose and don't get their money back.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Yeah, many. Now, it's the defense of this, I mean, it sounds so absurd, right? I think most people would think, okay, well, if they take the money, then, you know, once I'm clear to the crime, I get it back. No. Nope. In fact. It's not how it works. Again, they don't have to charge you with a crime.
Starting point is 01:33:02 They don't even have to charge you with a crime. They just have to, they can just take your money based on a generalized suspicion that something might be going on. Right. And that's it. And by the way, a lot of, you know, there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of, small town in particular, you know, law enforcement that winds up funding a big chunk of their operation based on stuff like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:24 And it's, to me, completely unconstitutional. It's not a close call. No. It's not a close call. It is your right to be able to drive around with a bunch of cash that's yours. Now, if you did something wrong and they have evidence to charge you with a crime. Yeah. And then, I would argue, also convict you of said crime.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Yeah. If they were to do that at that point, it would be, it would make sense, if they could take your money. Your ill-gotten booty at that point. Exactly. That's not what we're talking about here. No. Now, law enforcement that I've talked to about this, make the argument that this is sort of their way of capturing people that they know are doing things that are wrong, but they can't quite prove it yet. Right. Like it gives them an in. Okay, they got a bunch of cash. Well, why is that? Ask a bunch of questions. Follow up and you wind up going. And many times, I'm sure this is true. it is a drug dealer or it is somebody in a criminal enterprise. Right.
Starting point is 01:34:15 But a lot of times it hasn't been. We've had stories of people who were going to go buy a truck and pay cash for it. People who had $500,000 on them. I don't know why. They shouldn't have to explain it, but they were never charged with a crime. This happened in Utah. They were pulled over, had half a million dollars or close to it for whatever reason. But why?
Starting point is 01:34:38 But why? Why? I don't know. Here's a thing. You don't get that answer. Right. That's the thing that it's... It's none of your business.
Starting point is 01:34:44 If they didn't commit a crime and they weren't charged, they were never charged with a crime. I'm sorry if you can't, if you don't have any evidence that they did something wrong to obtain the money, you got to give it back. You got it. In fact, you don't take it in the first place. This is America. And I can... What? What?
Starting point is 01:35:03 I'm driving with $500,000. That's a crime? No. It's not a crime. It's not a crime. Well, I should clarify that. What if Pat, how do you, what if it's unreported U.S. currency? And it's still not a crime.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Wait, what is you? I don't have to report the currency. I don't have to report it. You don't have to. No. I don't think that's true. It is true. Because I'm reading to you.
Starting point is 01:35:23 I don't have to report it to you. Let me give you more of this tweet if you think you're, you're so smart. Okay, go ahead. It's not a crime to carry over $10,000. Right. We just want to know about it. Yeah, I don't care what you want to know about. It is not my duty to tell you about it.
Starting point is 01:35:37 Well, officers in Texas. It's where we live, by the way. seized over $70,000 of unreported U.S. currency. This is a term actually being utilized by the government of the United States. Sorry, I don't have to report my money to you. No, you definitely do not. Even if you pull me over. I don't have to see, you know what?
Starting point is 01:35:58 Now, a gun might be a different issue. If you get pulled over by an officer, you probably want to share with them. You know what? I have a concealed carry permit and I've got a gun in the car. You might want to tell them that. if I have cash in the car, that's none of your stinking business. And I don't have to tell you about it. I don't have to say it.
Starting point is 01:36:17 You know what? I got $70,000 in the car. There's no reason to have to tell them that. I mean, Pat, I didn't give you the rest of the story. To be fair. You didn't know this. Because he apparently had the money concealed in the vehicle. No.
Starting point is 01:36:32 It wasn't just on display on like his dash. A lot of people with 70 grand. I would display it on the dashboard. What kind of fell in? is this guy? Or at least put it on the passenger seat for all to see. Yes. You know what I mean? Or you tape it to the windshield. Or at the very least, if you're going to put it in your trunk, a place that might be concealed, you just want to put a sign saying there are, there's $70,000 in a vehicle. In my trunk. Right. Just so everyone knows. Yeah. Yeah. Now, look, this particular case may have been a situation where a drug smuggler was bringing in, you know, and putting it in like a fake, a false gas tank or something that would really indicate, hmm, what? what's going on here.
Starting point is 01:37:11 But if it's concealed in the glove compartment, that's, or under the seat, yeah. You, you, that doesn't, that's not a problem. No.
Starting point is 01:37:19 It's, I mean, it's technically probably not a problem legally anywhere. Now, again, this is a border situation. So we do at times,
Starting point is 01:37:26 you know, people come in and do customs, right? Normally it's okay to, to carry fruit, for example. And if you're bringing in fruit from another country,
Starting point is 01:37:34 they'll stop you and they'll say, that fruit can't come in. Right. There are different rules when it comes to this. So, you know, again,
Starting point is 01:37:40 talking about the specific case. I just, I feel, I feel that we are at a time where a lot of this, a lot of these lines are being crossed and yeah, we should. We it's not good. It's not good. Even though, you know, like, I think as a community of the Glenn Beck program, Pat and Stu, the audience, Glenn, all working together. We all like love the work that the Border Patrol is doing right now. Like, they're doing really good work and protecting us. And I overwhelmingly have positive vibes. that's not necessarily the case for some in our country, but I generally speaking think we're doing a good job on the border. We shouldn't cross lines like this, though.
Starting point is 01:38:18 No. Because it is not a crime to carry around a bunch of cash. It might be ill-advised. Yeah. I mean, I would be nervous that it would be stolen. Yeah. I would hope it wouldn't come from law enforcement taking it from me. Like, that would be, that would be the thing I wouldn't, I shouldn't be worried about.
Starting point is 01:38:33 And I will say, if you do have a whole bunch of money, you're not going to put it on display. Of course it's, of course it's hidden and concealed. Of course. Obviously. It would be stupid not to conceal $70,000. There's really not another option. No. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Like sometimes, you know, we'll be going somewhere in the car and my son will have $70,000 in cash. No, I'm kidding. My son will have his iPad or something. And he's like playing on his iPad as we're taking a long trip. And we pull into a gas station or, you know, we have a restaurant. And I'll be like, you know, like slide the iPad under the seat or something. So it's not just out there on display. So has Border Patrol pulled you over and taken the iPad from him?
Starting point is 01:39:13 It feels like a rational choice. See the gym of a concealed iPad. We're going to take that. What could that iPad be? You could do all sorts of illegal things on an iPad. Why are you hiding it? Yeah. And again, we do love the work the Border Patrol has done.
Starting point is 01:39:27 And they do a heck of a job. And it's a thankless job. And they're getting all kinds of flack everywhere they go. But to just pull over somebody and find out they have $70,000 and just take it. Sorry. That's on America. Would it change your opinion if I told you they posted the picture of the money? No, it would not.
Starting point is 01:39:43 They always do that. No, it was like, we got all these drugs. Here's a picture of the drugs. Yeah. They always do that. They did it with money this time. There's just piles of money. Like, all right.
Starting point is 01:39:53 Now you're pissed at the person for having $70,000. Why don't I have $70,000? Yeah. Why don't that given to me? Right. Do you know? Exactly. Why don't I have rights to their money?
Starting point is 01:40:04 I just voted the New York City mayoral election. I was told. I had rights to everybody else's money. Man. I just, I really, we don't want to go down that road. No, we don't. And in Texas, you know, they're probably, they experience this a lot more than, I don't know, Iowa probably does. There's a lot of drug traffic.
Starting point is 01:40:23 There's a lot of people that are smuggling drugs and probably cash across the border. You know, and I don't want to hinder that work. But for an American citizen to have $70,000 on them, that's not a problem. problem. It's not a problem. And they shouldn't have to explain it to any law enforcement agency anywhere in America unless, you know, you've, you see, I don't know, cocaine spilled all over the floorboard or it's on their nose or who knows. I mean, there might be hard evidence that you're seeing. There's a bloody knife in the back seat and you're, you see a body back there. Then that might be a problem. Maybe you look into it.
Starting point is 01:41:07 I mean, we don't know. But you don't know why. You don't know why somebody. Just taking a nap back there with a bloody knife. That's happened. I'm sure. I'm sure. It's occurred at some point.
Starting point is 01:41:19 I mean, I would say, like, the typical officer is probably going to say, like, look, yes, it's not a crime to carry $70,000 in cash that you've concealed in your vehicle. However, every single time we've seen someone do it, it winds up being a crime attached to a criminal enterprise. And like I get that. Yeah. Unfortunately, that's not the way the law is supposed to work. Right. Again, it's the assumption of innocence. And you should have to charge them with something.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Yeah, at least charge them with something. If you're going to take them into custody, if you're going to take their money, you get to charge them with something. I would argue again, you shouldn't take it until you convict them of the crime. Like, I think you shouldn't be. But still, I get it. It's a good argument. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:59 I get it. And they're like, well, what, they're going to wind up, you know, sending that money somewhere else by the time. Yeah, that's probably true. But again, I, again, what do you. What do you prioritize? Do we prioritize getting a few thousand dollars out of their hands? Or do we prioritize constitutional protections? And like innocence, the presumption of innocence is a big deal.
Starting point is 01:42:18 We argue about it all the time when we're talking about like anti-woke things, for example. When we say, hey, you know, maybe this person shouldn't be me-toed for the allegation of a joke 12 years ago. Like that's all based on a very foundational principle of presumption of innocence. We should assume, unless we have real evidence, assuming this person abused in some way we should assume their innocence I mean all these things like
Starting point is 01:42:44 we very clearly assumed the innocence of Keith Oberman earlier today when there was like legitimate timeline concerns it was obvious we assumed innocent I assume I assume when they says he was dating he hasn't talked to the woman he was dating
Starting point is 01:43:00 in 10 years when she's 31 and that they were lived together for four years I assume there's just a number problem there. Like at some point he's miscommunicated. Yeah. And you did mention that. Yeah. Maybe there's a, maybe it was only six or seven years.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Right. Like maybe he just said decade and meant something that didn't mean decade. You know, it's possible. Oh, he's inaccurate with everything else. Maybe he was inaccurate with that. 100%. I've never heard him say anything factual. Right. So the fact that he would mess up the dates, it's not surprising. Maybe they only dated
Starting point is 01:43:30 for six weeks. And he said four plus years. I wouldn't put it past Keith Oberman for just lying. Especially when he's, He's defending himself. Like he seems, I would argue he does that many, many times when I've seen him in the media. No question. He's not told the truth.
Starting point is 01:43:43 Some perhaps is just an extension of this. In fact, in this particular instance, it would be good for him if it was. Yes, it would. You know? Yeah, I would. But that's what I mean. We always assume innocence on this program. It's beautiful.
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Starting point is 01:44:59 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn today. This is fun. And I know, Stu, you're going to love this because Jasmine Crockett. Oh, I've already, I already love it. You already love it. I love her. I love everything about her. I love everything about her. I want more of her in our public view.
Starting point is 01:45:26 And you're about to get some because she's talking about running for Senate here. Okay. Let's hear. Cut seven. I am still thinking about running. We did get our polling back. So we are moving on to the next phase to determine whether or not this is. What did your polling show?
Starting point is 01:45:43 we leave that completely undiscussed. And I'd love to hear what the polling says that you just got back. Because my guess is you're at about 1%. Come on. I actually have seen some polling of her. For Senate? For Senate. And I believe, I could be wrong on this.
Starting point is 01:46:03 But if my recollection is accurate, she is leading the field of Democrats. Of Democrats. Now, she's not going to win the state, which is one of the reasons why I really want her to win. It would not surprise me if she leaves the field of Democrats. Yes, because she gets a lot of attention. And incentives are aligned for her to be on television, not only just on CNN or MSNBC, but like Colbert and all these other things. There's a reason she's there.
Starting point is 01:46:26 She's got name recognition. They put her against, I want to say it was Beto and. Beto can't win any election. Have they not realized that yet? Don't even let him run. It's just not going to happen with him. But this is what I want Jasmine Crockett to be the new bedo. I want her running in every election.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Beyond that, you just said you must have it. You must have her. Not only do I want it, I must have it. I must have a Jasmine Crockett Senate run. It's the only thing that's fair to me. I love that you love her so much. I really do. I can't stand to listen to her.
Starting point is 01:47:05 I love her. Oh, God. She says everything the Democrats are thinking in the most imposterous. stupid way. Yeah. I love what she does. She brings, she gives you the, the easiest example of what is wrong with your opponent. Yeah, she does.
Starting point is 01:47:23 And also the dumbest example. Yes. And that's, again, heavy lifting. It is. In many ways. Now, do I think she's, dumb people who are Democrats? Do I think she's the dumbest person in Congress?
Starting point is 01:47:35 No. That's Eric Swalwell. But I think outside of Swalwell and maybe AOC, she could be the dumbest. But she presents it in the dumbest. in the dumbest possible way. Have you forgotten Hank Johnson? Don't leave him out. Hank Johnson's fantastic too.
Starting point is 01:47:47 Again, but do you want more or less Hank Johnson? I want more. I don't want him to have any more power than he does. And to be clear, do I want Jasmine Crocket to run for Senate? Yes. Do I want Jasmine Crocket to run for president in 2028? Yes. Do I want her to win the Democratic nomination in both races?
Starting point is 01:48:05 Yes. Do I want her to win the presidency? No. Do I want her to win the Senate seat? No. I want her to win every primary she can. I want her to feel as successful as possible because the more successful she feels, the more confident she gets and the more dumb stuff she says.
Starting point is 01:48:21 So I, there is nothing about Jasmine Crockett that I don't adore. And she believes she's a superstar right now. She believes she will win the U.S. Senate seat in Texas. She 100% believes it. And I don't think she cares whether it's against Cornyn or Paxton or even, Ted Cruz. I think she believes she'd beat any of them. It's interesting. We'll get to this. She loves her. And I love that about her. Nobody loves Jasmine Crockett more than Jasmine Crockett. A hundred percent true, Pat. And I love watching her go through this process. I love watching the Democratic media establishment reward her for the things that she does. And they do.
Starting point is 01:49:01 They do it over. It's a real problem for Democrats right now. Because like there's no, there's no benefit in working, you know, working away. at, you know, legislation that advances progressive causes. Like, that's boring. Yeah. What they, what wins, what gets you the things that you want is what Jasmine Crockett does. And that is a massive problem for both sides, but particularly the left. This is Glenn Beck. There's always somebody on my list that is impossible to shop for.
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Starting point is 01:50:35 Get it from Glenn, free at glenbeck.com. Let's do it for Glenn this week. All right, we were trying to get through the Jasmine Crockett thing on running for Senate. You did a great job. We probably got three seconds worth, I bet. It's a lot. Full three seconds. That's not bad.
Starting point is 01:51:20 It's hard to get through one second. But you love it. I love it. I love every second of it. Let's have more. Let's start for the beginning and see if we can. Get all the way through this. She is talking about running for Senate.
Starting point is 01:51:31 I am still thinking about running. We did get our polling back. So we are moving on to the next phase to determine whether or not this is, would make sense in the moment. And if the infrastructure can be built out in the way that I see it being necessary to actually be able to win, as well as we are continuing to look at the polling on the other side. Listen, they are in a civil war right now on the Republican side as relates to who will become their nominee. That's true. You know, John Cornyn has served the state of Texas for decades at this.
Starting point is 01:52:04 point in time in some capacity and right now you know i i don't know if he's maga enough to make it through his primary but we are evaluating all things and seeing what it would look like to put together a team and we will make a final decision by thanksgiving on whether or not we're going to ultimately move forward what did the polling information that you got back show i mean good question jick is it a calculation of whether or not you're going to be facing cornon yeah who might have more appeal to moderates in your state centrist's in your state as opposed to to a more MAGA candidate who potentially defeats Cornyn in the primary that you might, or any Democrat, might have a better chance against?
Starting point is 01:52:44 I'll tell you this, that head-to-head, we are doing really well against Paxton. I will say that. I will also tell you that we are actually within the margin of error as it relates to John Cornyn. Oh, I don't believe that. So to be perfectly honest. For just a second. Is that margin of error, like 30? Is it 30 points?
Starting point is 01:53:04 plus or minus, because that's got to be a massive margin of error at a very unreliable poll if she's within the margin of error. Anyway, let her finish here. As it relates to John Cornyn. So to be perfectly honest, the only reason that I'm continuing to consider whether or not I do this is because my polling says I can win. That is the bottom line. At the end of the day, a poll is a poll. And so you need to actually be able to execute on that. So whether it's Cornyn or whether it's Paxton, we feel confident that we can get this done. The thing is we obviously would prefer to have Paxton. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Is there one poll that says she's within two points of Paxton? And what's the closest she is to Cornyn, six? Six points. There is one poll that, yeah, that is true, right? Yeah, there's one poll that has her down two to Paxton. There's not a lot of polling on this race yet. Yeah, well, it's not until next year. So right. And six to Cornyn, which is also relatively close. I mean, I think the, the Beto Cruz race was, what, three or four points, I think, I remember right? And that was considered to be very close at the time. So it is, if you find the right environment, Pat, if you're a Democrat and you're thinking, okay, what's the right environment to actually pull this off? You need a big Democratic year, which it is not crazy to say we are about to face in 2026.
Starting point is 01:54:34 It's not insane. I would not say it's guaranteed. You know, the left really just wants to kind of lock this in. I would not say that's where we are. But typically, historically, this is what happens in the off-year election
Starting point is 01:54:47 when you're talking about a president in power. Usually he loses the House or the Senate or at least does damage to his control of it during that period. That's normal. It's what we should all expect going in. That should be the baseline is that the Republicans are going to lose, particularly the House. but maybe even the Senate.
Starting point is 01:55:04 That's the baseline. Then you look at, well, how are things going? Well, you know, there's not great at the moment, right? Like there's a lot of questions about the economy. There's some things that have gone really well. I think a lot of things that are happy, happy moments for the base of Trump, but not necessarily happy moments for, you know, the border is one of them. Like, you know, the border tactics are very popular among the base.
Starting point is 01:55:27 And his immigration policies when it comes to the border are relatively popular. When it comes to, you know, taking people, that are inside the country and removing them? Like, it doesn't do as well poll-wise. How does that, what does that mean going into 2026? We don't know. But it's at very least, some nervous moments, I think, for Republicans. And if you get a really democratic wave-type moment
Starting point is 01:55:51 and combining that with a state in Texas, which is red, but not, Utah red, you know, not Idaho red. Maybe you have a chance. Now, all that being said, and I'll also throw us out there. We like Ken Paxton. He's, he's been on show a long time. Issues, though. Yeah, he's not like the most popular guy, I would say, in the state.
Starting point is 01:56:16 You know, he's won statewide elections and probably will do so again if he is to win the Senate primary. But it's not, not without question. John Cornyn, I could. Cornyn sucks. Yes, that's what I was leading to. Yeah, Cornyn sucks. I would like, I would really like. like Cornyn to be replaced.
Starting point is 01:56:34 I don't lose the seat. Yeah, I don't need that. I would love a better Republican. And Paxton would do a better job in the Senate, I think, than Cornyn does. Cornyn's big thing right now, though, is, you know, Jasmine Crockett brought up, is he Maga enough? He watches commercials. He's more than Maga enough.
Starting point is 01:56:51 At least that's what he's saying. If you talk to him. Yes. He's voted with Donald Trump. 99% of the time. The man has shut down the border. pulled Trump along with him, I guess. If you were to watch the commercials,
Starting point is 01:57:08 he is down on his ATV on the border. All the time. Searching the wilderness for illegals. He's like OJ looking for the real killer. Yeah, he is. That's what he's doing all the time. So, I mean, he's really trying to align himself with President Trump right now, desperately trying to do that.
Starting point is 01:57:28 And I don't know. Maybe it's working because he's closed the gap a lot. Has Trump endorsed a lot? No. He has not endorsed in the race at all. You know, Trump does sometimes endorse the kind of establishment person they've worked with a lot. He's worked with a lot in these races. He's not done that here.
Starting point is 01:57:41 And Paxton's, I mean, Paxon, quite obviously, is more MAGA, whatever that means. He's definitely been more on board with Donald Trump over the years. And, you know, his issues are not necessarily policy issues. You know, he's had some personal stuff that's been bumpy here in the state. So that's the kind of the big question here. But what I'm leading to more than anything else is that, you know, there is a formula in theory which the Democrats could win the state of Texas when it comes to a Senate seat. Jasmine Crockett is not part of that formula.
Starting point is 01:58:10 No, she's not. She might win her primary. But she is not ideal to try to win a statewide race against. That's why it'd be great if she's the nominee. It'd be awesome. Can I address one more thing on the spot? Yeah. Every time I talk about this, I get this in the comments or whatever.
Starting point is 01:58:29 People say, be careful what you're asking for. Do you really trust voters this much? If she becomes the nominee, are you worried that she might win? No, I'm not. You might not be. I'm not. I am conflicted over it because I do think... You think it's possible?
Starting point is 01:58:44 It would be very difficult. I would not bet on her winning the state of Texas, but I am nervous about voters making dumb decisions. So, and I will say, like, if you go back, let's say 2015-ish, you'll find a lot of people on the Democratic side sounding like I do about Jasmine Crockett. I'm just like, yeah, sure, but give Donald Trump the nomination. Was Donald Trump going to win? Sometimes they do.
Starting point is 01:59:07 So I do, I will hedge myself saying I am conflicted over this, but I do love her so. I will eat my underwear if she wins the election. Can we write that down? I will eat my underwear because it's not going to happen. It is not going to happen. Jasmine Crockett cannot win a Senate election, a statewide race for Senate in this state? not at this point. Maybe in 2038, 2040, maybe then, but not in 2020.
Starting point is 01:59:38 Which Jasmine Crocket are you talking about? You're talking about the one that speaks as if she's an accountant or the other one, which speaks as if she's, you know, I don't know, a talk show host. Yeah, either Jasmine Crockett can't win in the state. Can't win in the state. I don't think, I just do not believe. I don't believe it. That she could win in the state.
Starting point is 01:59:58 But, you know, again. when you have candidates that have certain issues that are, you know, difficult to deal with, you know, like, do I think Cornyn would probably win again? Yeah. But like, you know, it would be better. This is the actual approach that Republicans should be taking across the country, which is to take senators that are conservative and conservative states and find senators that are better to win primary. Yes.
Starting point is 02:00:24 And then go on and have a more conservative Senate. That's a easier path to a conservative Senate than trying to nominate some big MAGA person in Maine. You know what I mean? Like you're probably not going to win in Maine with that profile. That being said, you don't, you have to be careful to not lose the seat.
Starting point is 02:00:40 I don't think, like I think Paxton will win, but it will be, it will be closer, it probably bumpy. And there'll be moments where it doesn't look so great. But against Crockett, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:50 I can't imagine it. I can't imagine it. And I'm going to still live in that. I don't know. If you think I'm in a dream world, I will continue to live in that dream world. It's a great place to be. There's a third guy, too,
Starting point is 02:00:58 who seems pretty good, in this race. And I think he pulls not great, but okay. I think he's in the 20s or something, whereas Cornyn and Paxton are in the 30s. But his name is Wesley Hunt. And he seems to be pretty conservative. And, you know, that would be nice. It would be nice to have a really solid conservative.
Starting point is 02:01:20 And I mean, it's Texas. We shouldn't have to put up with John Cornyn. He's just been there too long. The guy started out to be a real conservative in 2001. He's not anymore. We don't need, yeah. What year is this? I just don't either.
Starting point is 02:01:35 I know. Why would you even want to keep, continue with something like this? If you're in the, I think they fall in love with the power. Yep. And then there's no getting rid of them when that happens. Even when they say,
Starting point is 02:01:45 you know what, I'm going to serve one term. I'm going to serve two terms. And then they get there and they get intoxicated with it. And they never leave. I wonder if it's even a good life. Like I remember following candidates around Iowa. I'm thinking of myself,
Starting point is 02:01:59 good God, I would never want to do this. Remember that? Yeah, it was terrible. We were with Ted Cruz for a while. Yeah, and it's a brutal sketch. I don't, I'm like that whole time. I was thinking not in a million years. I want to get home so badly. Yeah. And I, you know, as I mentioned, watching House of Cards, which is a fictional television show. I should point out, I shouldn't take too much from this. But like, you do realize that there's a lot going on there that you probably would be great. You know, you're, if you're a certain type of person. Some of it's attractive, I suppose. I wouldn't want to do it. I mean, the campaign alone is too brutal. It's just, is it worth it? I guess if you really want to serve your country. Or you're really power hungry, then it would be worth it. It seems to be one of the two. Yeah. Often.
Starting point is 02:02:42 Not all the time. There are some great people in the Senate and the great people in the House that do really good work. Again, you know, Cornyn is not the worst thing that can happen to us. I don't want to overstate it. No, Jasmine Crockett's the worst thing that could happen to us. Much better. I'd rather have Corny than Crockett. Yes.
Starting point is 02:02:57 However, no question. There's no reason we couldn't improve on Cornyn. But maybe Wesley Hunt's the guy, you know. Maybe. There should be somebody. Yeah. Could be Paxton. I mean, if Paxton gets in there, he will be better than, there's no doubt he'll be better than Cornyn.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Yeah. The question is, you know, it's a difficult process at times. Yeah. So that'll be interesting. It's going to be an interesting. That's going to be a big one to watch in 2026. For sure. Like the, the attention of the country will come to Texas at some point in this process.
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Starting point is 02:04:46 BYRNA.com. That's Burna.com. It's Pat and Stu for Glenn today. Important question for you, Pat. Yes. We're right before Thanksgiving. Okay. Right around the corner this week. Yeah, Thursday.
Starting point is 02:05:12 Big part of my Thanksgiving I love is the kexy cookies. Is it? It is. Is that a tradition? I have. I've made platters multiple times. Awesome. And I bring them to the big Thanksgiving gathering because I love the cookies.
Starting point is 02:05:23 And I cut them into fourths because no human being can consume one. Actually, even though I say that as a person who's consumed many. But you usually come on here, like around, let's say mid-December. And you're like, hey, we got this Christmas box of cookies. Yeah, we do have a Christmas box. That's great. You got that going on. And you'll usually come in here and say, hey, we've got this great cook.
Starting point is 02:05:45 And you'll bring in one of the cookie boxes. And these are incredible flavors. How do you get them? How do I get them? Sold out. And you'll say sold out. Yeah. I'm not saying that yet.
Starting point is 02:05:52 You're not saying they are not yet sold out. For Christmas. Yes. If you want the Christmas box, you can pre-order it right now, which I highly recommend because when it's time to actually order it, I think they'll probably be gone. So you might want to pre-order it at kexy.com. Do you get any preview of flavors? Sorry, k-E-K-S-I. Yeah, dot com.
Starting point is 02:06:12 Yeah, we do have the Christmas flavors. I'd have to look them up really quick. You don't know? I don't know them right off the top of my head. If you don't know this, this is... You know, because I'm not there in the kitchen every day. Really? Like my wife and my son and my daughter-in-law who run that business.
Starting point is 02:06:28 But yeah, you can get them. And they are available. Wow, what a great sell. We do have a huge sale coming up on Black Friday, which is this Friday. Oh, wow. Very cool. Biggest sale of the whole year. So it's a really good time to order them.
Starting point is 02:06:45 So basically what you're saying is you don't know what cookies you can buy and you should definitely not order them now because there's a bigger sale coming on Friday. No, I'm saying. you should pre-order them right now. Oh, okay. And go ahead and stock up for Thanksgiving, too, which would be really good. Let's see. All right.
Starting point is 02:07:01 Yes, we've got a pop up there that's gotten in my way. But these are really good. We've got, I don't know what the, no, okay, I don't know what the Christmas cookie is, but it's delicious. My gosh. Like, I mean, it's almost surprising. It's not as big as chips a hoy by now. Are you fully at the Nabisco levels with your. salesmanship. I can't even understand it. I will say they're the best cookies I've ever had and you
Starting point is 02:07:28 will love to. So, K-E-K-S-I.com. Do you see that President Trump is actually taking another shot at bringing peace to the Ukraine situation? And the European Union threw some extras in for Russia to make it more palatable to them, including being included in G8 again. So the G7 would become the G8 again with Russia joining. So we'll see if this one works out. I don't know. Interesting. We should maybe go over this in more detail tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:07:59 Yeah, we'll do that tomorrow. Some big questions for Ukraine of whether they can tolerate all the things they'd have to give up here. Yeah. But gosh, I would love to see that thing be over. Me too. I think, you know, millions would. Maybe even billions. All right.
Starting point is 02:08:13 We'll see you back here tomorrow. In the meantime, have a great day. This is Glenn Beck.

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