The Glenn Beck Program - The REAL Issues with Jerome Powell and the Fed | Guests: Goldie Ghamari & Renzo Castillo | 1/12/26

Episode Date: January 12, 2026

Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell posted a response last night to the DOJ after the DOJ opened a criminal probe into Powell and the Federal Reserve. Glenn breaks down how the Federal Reserve has transformed from a government department into a private business, completely shielded from responsibility. Glenn responds to Jerome Powell's remarks on the investigation into him, using the chalkboard to explain the government's role in protecting its citizens' rights. All of a sudden, mainstream Democrats simultaneously began speaking out against Hamas. Is it just a coincidence, or do these Democrats know something is coming? Goldie Ghamari, a human rights advocate and former Ontario member of the Provincial Parliament, joins to discuss whether America should get involved in what is happening in Iran. AgrisAcademy co-founder Jeff Kazin joins to give a firsthand account of Venezuela's food crisis. Renzo Castillo, who spent 300 days illegally detained by the Venezuelan government, joins to discuss what he endured, and what his wife is still enduring, while unlawfully detained under Nicolás Maduro.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's Legacybox.com slash records. Oh, yeah. Well, hello, and welcome to the program. So let's start with a big story of the day, the Golden Globe. No, I'm kidding. Not going to tell. Let me talk to you a little bit about Jerome Powell. Jerome Powell had a hissy fit last night because on Friday, the DOJ said, look who we're coming after. Now, in case you don't know, you don't go after the Federal Reserve. Unless you're President Trump. Reagan tried to do it and it didn't go well. It didn't go well for President Reagan. But President Trump may be a different. animal entirely. He is going after the Federal Reserve with the DOJ and they filed against the Federal Reserve and said, we're going to start looking into this palace that you're building.

Now, let me give you an update on just the palace that they're building. They're like a billion dollars in overruns right now. Now, let me ask you, if you got a loan and you were a billion dollar's overrun, do you think the bank would have a problem with that? Do you think the bank might say, you know what, I don't think I'm going to give you another loan because you're a billion dollars in cost overruns? I think the bank would have a problem. This bank doesn't have a problem with it. There's no bank calling them going, hey, what are you doing?

The president is the one having to call them and say, what are you doing? Because for some strange reason, this is a private corporation. and you, the taxpayer, are paying for their new palace. That's the best I can describe it. It's a palace, you know, with fountains in the lobby of the chairman. And, oh, it's beautiful. It's beautiful. And you'll, the great thing is, is you'll be able to see it when you go into the federal.

Oh, wait, you don't go into the Federal Reserve. I don't go in. Who goes into the Federal Reserve? Well, the elites are really going to enjoy it. They're going to love it. billion dollars in cost overruns. The president has a problem with that. He's bringing it up to them and saying, you know, maybe we should look into this legally.

Maybe there's some things going on. Oh, no, no, no, no. You can't check the books from Colin Powell. You can't check the books of the Federal Reserve. Hmm. Really? Well, President Trump is going to check the books on the Federal Reserve. Now, I want you to know that's not really what this is about.

yes, they're a trillion or a billion dollars in cost overruns. Yes, they're out of control. Yes, you can't check their books. But that's not what this is about. What this is about is Donald Trump doesn't think the Federal Reserve, a private corporation with all this secrecy, should be the ones making the decisions on what your interest rate is. Now, I'm going to go a step further and say, I think the free market should decide. Yeah. You see, when you take all of the big banks and you put them together and you call them the Federal Reserve, that's what I like to call a monopoly.

Not the game, but just as frustrating. The banks have a monopoly. The banks are the ones colluding to decide what are they going to charge you for interest. and by the way, inflation, that's not a bug. That's a feature. Inflation is planned. Now, let me ask you, if I said to you, hey, how much money should your dollar lose every year? How many pennies on every dollar should you lose? Should you lose two, three, five, or eight pennies on every dollar should you lose? Should you lose two, two, three, five, or eight pennies on every dollar should you lose? every dollar every year. You have it in savings. You're spending it. How much would you like it to go down? Now, I'm a weirdo. So I say, no pennies. It should not lose value. In fact, I'd like it to gain value. But that doesn't happen. Why? Because the Federal Reserve has decided that 2% inflation is the right number. So you should lose two cents. Wait, every year on every dollar. And we're losing much, much, much more than that.

I was doing calculation the other day. I'm charging when we announce, you know, that the torch is up for, you know, subscription. I'm charging you $9.99. And for the first month that we offer it, it will be inflation proof for the rest of your life. Okay? As long as you hold your subscription, if you were one of the founding people that came in, I will never raise the price on you. Now, I was doing some calculations.

999, we're going to call it, no, this is crazy. We're just going to say it's 10 bucks because that's what 99 is. But anyway, you put 10 bucks in. That's what I charged when we first put the blaze together. I said it's 999. Do you know how much 999 is worth today in 2011? This will show you how. How much money you, how much money, your money has lost?

How much is $999 today if you had $2,0,0,0, 2011? That's actually like $6.70. Your dollar has lost over $3. Your $10 bill is now worth about $7. That's how much money you've lost since Obama was in. that's not a bug. That's a feature of the Federal Reserve. And most people don't even know what the Federal Reserve is because you're not taught about it.

Not because it's secret. You know, books have been written. Hearings have been held. Transcripts have been preserved. But you don't teach it to anybody because, well, I mean, it's inconvenient. It doesn't exactly flatter power. Actually, if you start looking at it and you realize what it really is, you're like, Like, I don't think I like that at all.

No, no, no, it's the Federal Reserve. They named it the Federal Reserve for dopes like us. So we would always say, well, it's a federal institution. It's part of the government. No, it's not. It's a private corporation. If you had to read one book this year, I would suggest you read a book called The Creature from Jekyll Island.

It's by G. Edward Griffin. When I first read this, I didn't know who G. Edward Griffin was. And so I started doing my homework on him because I'm like, I don't want to read this if he's some crackpot. Well, he's not some crackpot. And I actually did an interview with him the last year at Fox. Some people say, see, Glenn Beck had G. Edward Griffin on, and that's why they fired him. They didn't fire me, and it had nothing to do with it or did it. But it is uncomfortable.

Nobody wants to talk about this. But what he does in this book, he doesn't start with conspiracy. He begins with history. The banks had been wanting a federal bank forever. They wanted to control the money supply. They wanted to be the ones to print the money and control the money. And I'll get into why here in a minute. But it was a small group of men.

It was senators and bankers and financial architects. And they slipped out under assumed names and got on to a small group of men. a private train and went to a private retreat on a place called Jekyll Island. There was no press, no public record, there were no voters, this was all entirely secret. And they were not drafting a bill to be debated. They were designing a system to be accepted. And what emerged from that island was not a government agency, at least in the normal sense. It was a mechanism. It was a mechanism. It was a, the reason why it's a creature from Jacqueline. It's a hybrid. It's a hybrid creature.

It's public in its appearance. It's private. Unbelievably private. Like illegally private in any other business. And completely shielded from all accountability. Tell me another structure like that. Besides what? The CIA.

Armed with power. Power that no free society should ever hand to any unelectable. body ever. And the creature is the Federal Reserve. And it's not a department like the U.S. Department of Finance. It's not that. It's regional banks privately owned by member banks. Remember when they said, oh, you know what? The banks are too big to fail. What does that tell you we should do with the banks? This is what people said in 2008. They're just too big to fail. that would mean, okay, then maybe we don't let them fail. I mean, not in my opinion, but this is what the argument was.

We don't let them fail this time. But then what do you do after you save them? Reason and logic would say, I make them smaller. So I'm never in this position again, right? They didn't. They made them bigger. And yes, governors are appointed, but once they, are seated, they have extraordinary independence. And the president can't do anything about it.

You know, the president, when he selects a, I'm going to select a new chairman of the Federal Reserve. Do you know where he gets the names? From the Federal Reserve. He can't say, you know what I'm going to put in charge? Rand Paul. He can't do that because they wouldn't allow Rand Paul to ever get near the Federal Reserve. I don't even know if he's even been allowed to walk into the Federal Reserve. So the president can only pick from the people that he wants, you know what that is? That's the Soviet Union and the way they used to run elections. That's the way Putin runs elections today. That's the way they run elections in Iran. The people can choose just from these pre-approved people. Okay. And the consequences are not abstract to you. They have the power, the only ones that have

the power to create money out of nothing. They can just type it in with a keystroke and we're printing more money. It sets the interest rates which decide what you can do. Can you open a business? Can you afford a home? Are your savings? Remember, because of interest rates and because of inflation, are your savings rewarded or are you punished? If I've been saving money since 2010, look how much money. I had $100,000 in. It's now worth $67,000. Because it's lost money.

It's lost with the value of it. It still says I have all that money. But it's actually only worth about $67,000. What are you doing? Why would we do this? Why would we allow this institution to do this to us? They are privately stealing from us and telling us it's for your own good and your own safety.

It also decides liquidity, a word that nobody really pays attention to. What a liquidity means is, do the banks have enough money? Do we need to print some more money so the banks have more money? Because the banks, if liquidity dries up, then, you know, you can't get a loan. So we got to print more money, which will cost us more. and then because that's a really, really bad idea, usually printing money the way we've been doing it, it's going to cost me on top of it because then you're going to have to raise my interest rates to unbelievable levels to be able to suck all that money back in. Who is? Who thinks this is a good idea? By the way, this is not regulation. This is command. They have command and control.

So what is this really all about? what is the president really doing and what is the Fed really doing? I want to try to explain just with this argument on the Fed. I'll explain what they're arguing about here in a second. And then I want to show you what the Fed really is and how this is a really brilliant master move, master stroke of genius, if you are trying to control the world. Remember, progressives, the word progressive, what does that mean? It means we make progress little by little, right?

We're making progress. Progressivism is progress a little bit at a time. Why a little bit of a time? Why don't we just go for it? Why don't we just make these changes? Why wouldn't progressives state what their goal is and then make those changes? Because they know you don't want what they're. they're selling. In the early 1900s, progressivism is just translated, if I may, slow communists.

They didn't want the riots in the street. They didn't want the bloodshed. They don't want the banks overthrown and the economy. They'll just do it slowly by taking a little bit more power and a little bit more of your stuff every day. We'll continue in 60 seconds. First, I'll tell you about Patriot Mobile. We're going to the chalkboard here in a second. There aren't a lot of them out there. In fact, they're pretty rare. But once in a while, you'll find a company that actually does two things at the same time.

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Okay. The founders understood the danger of a federal bank and a federal institution. Because who benefits from a central bank? When money is created, it's not you, the wage earner. because your purchasing power goes down. It's not you who saves money. You've been told, save money, save money, put money in, no, because discipline is punished through inflation.

The first people that benefit are the closest to the spigot. The spigot opens up, and it's the large financial institutions, the big banks who are the Federal Reserve. Understand that. The banks are the Federal Reserve. They're the ones who profit first, then any government that's borrowing money. And then the speculators who can move before prices rise. Why do you think there's not a big move for the Federal Reserve in Congress?

How much is Nancy Pelosi worth again? How did she make those, how did she make all that money? Oh, her husband's just great. No, her husband makes Warren Buffett look retarded. okay and that's I mean I'm sorry but that's the hard truth anybody who knows to make moves

and what moves to make before are actual beneficiaries of the system but not you there's no vote there's no receipt there's no debate and the founders understood that so I want to take you back to the founding era then back to the progressive era

and then show you what it all means today when we go to the chalkboard I know chalkboards on radio are really kind of dicey, but check it out at glenbeck.com and I'll explain it if you happen to be listening to us on radio. That's next. So I work on a ranch. I own a ranch. Work's not really involved. Well, work is very involved. But I do none of it.

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And I'm going to be honest with you, Stu got involved in some rioting in Philadelphia. He's in jail. We'll bail him out. Don't worry about it. But he will be, he'll be back next week. and he is, for those of you who have been paying attention, he is starting his own business, and he's going to be leaving us shortly, Trader, and just couldn't get the job done. You know what I mean? Is it done yet?

Is the job done? No. We saved America? No, I quit. Anyway, we have a really nice, we have a nice send-off for him at some point when he gets, we're going to do some nice things because, I mean, he's one of my best friends,

and we've worked together for, 27 years. It's really. It's weird. It's weird. Like the marriage gone bad, except we like each other still. I think we might even like each other more when we're away than we do at this time. We really like each other. I mean, Tony may have some competition. I'm just saying. Tony and Lisa. Just, okay. Let me tell you about the Federal Reserve and what's going on. Now, Trump and Powell are going back and forth. Powell came out with this extraordinary statement last night. where he said, you know, the president is going after us, and I'll tell you what really is happening here. He just wants control of the interest rates. And I was listening to it, and I thought, you know, who are you? You unelected, you unelected bank guy. Who gave you the power?

Well, I know who gave you the power. The Senate did and the Congress did and the president did under Woodrow Wilson in 1913. But the people didn't. I would much rather have an elected official or people that would answer to me. But think about the Federal Reserve. they don't answer to anyone but themselves. Okay? The president can't fire them.

The president has to pick the replacement out of the replacements they suggest. We can't audit their books. We don't know what they're doing. It's completely secret. The CIA has more oversight, I believe, than the Federal Reserve. And they're not a federal. organization. They are not part of the government in the traditional sense. Who in their right mind thinks this is a good idea? Let me show you what the founder's idea was. Okay, the founder's idea,

like it or not, was that God gives man rights. Before, it was God gave certain people, kings, etc., etc. God gave rights to those people. And those people, and those people, people had rights over you to tell you exactly what to do, how to live your life, what land you could own, you know, what you had to do with your money, what you had to do with your whole life. They could tell you everything about your life. The founders came along and said, I don't think that's the way it should be. I think God gives the individual rights. So the individual is more powerful or as powerful as any king. And the people can decide what to do with their business, what they can do with their life, who they can marry, how they live, where they live,

what house they could buy, what land they could own. Before, all those decisions were made by the king. You couldn't own property. The king or the Lord and the Lady had to give you that land, or you had to negotiate it. How is a pauper going to do that? How is somebody who's at the bottom of the barrel going to be able to buy land? Couldn't. They couldn't. And everything, including the banks, were controlled by the king. Okay. Founders came along and said, that's got to stop because people are their own sovereign. You're the sovereign over your own life. And governments, says in the Declaration of Independence, are instituted among men to protect those rights.

So the first thing is, all men are created equal, endowed by their creator of certain in in inalienable rights, and governments are instituted among men to protect those rights. So the first thing that government comes into is the people saying, I need somebody to be be a guardian over my rights, over my property, over, you know, business. If I'm in business and somebody's being unfair, I need somebody to come in and go, hey, hey, hey, these are the rules. You're wrong. You're right.

But these are the rules. And if you guys don't like the rules, you guys can change the rules. I'm just here as a referee. Okay? That's the government's role. Is that their role now? Now, we did that for a while. Then around the turn of the century, progressives came into the play.

progressives, like I said earlier, are just slow communists. And I'm not, that's not a cute turn of phrase. That is really what they are. They believed in a collective power. They believed in the elites. So it became fascism or communism. But progressives didn't want to have the bloodshed in the streets. And so they thought they could just build it piece by piece because they knew it would take a revolution to do it.

And they had to separate you. from the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, and the Declaration of Independence. Woodrow Wilson hated the Declaration of Independence. Ask any real progressive, and they'll tell you that the Declaration of Independence plays no role in anything anymore. It's an old dusty document for a different time. I'm here to tell you it's a document that is for this time, the future, and the past. It's who we are. It's our mission statement. So we developed when we said, all men are created equal, governments need to be.

be instituted to protect those rights. We came up with a government that checked on itself. We had Congress, the president, and the court system. And they all ran checks and balances. Even in Congress, the purse strings, the only one that can start spending your money is Congress. So your congressman, you have to vote them in every two years. Why? Doesn't that seem ridiculous? Every two years, you have to go vote for your congressman? No, the founders knew they controlled the spending. And so if you didn't like what they were spending, if they were raising taxes and spending too much, you could vote them out every two years. So they didn't have this long control.

They were given the keys to the purse, to the safe. They don't anymore. You know, we haven't had a budget since 2008. Progressives finally got rid of the whole budget process. So it doesn't matter who starts it because all they do is they just add on to what they've already had. We're going to expand this, going to track this, and they can move the money. Okay. So you've lost that control over your money. Also, the Senate was set up to be able to check, be the check and the balance on the federal government versus the state government.

Remember, states are more important in the federal government. That's what they believed at the founding era. But we need the federal government to settle arguments just to play a referee. And also, So if there's a war, wage war, okay? So are, we were so afraid that the federal government would get out of control and there would be a big, deep state that the founder said all of the senators are voted on by the state houses. So you could send a senator, but the state house would vote on that. They did that because they felt that the state.

senator would be loyal to the state. If it became an election, then other states, think of this. Why do you care about Chuck Schumer? You care about Chuck Schumer because he affects you because his loyalty is no longer to New York. It's to the federal government. They work for all of us instead of their state. That's not the way it was set up and that's part of the problem. Then the president, the president didn't have enough control because they remember progressives wanted bean counters. They wanted somebody that could control everything that wasn't necessarily elected. They were just the best in their job. And so let's get these experts in to do an administrative state. And so they grew the administrative state, the deep state. They grew all

of these administrative arms, the department of this, the department of that, that you don't even know who runs those things. If you have to deal with one of those, go ahead, deal with the Bureau of Land management. Go ahead. Deal with the Department of Labor. Who do you vote out? You don't agree with what they're doing. Who do you vote out? You can't. They're not responsive to you at all. They're barely responsive to the president because they're trying to get rid of the president being able to fire any of those people. So they are completely unelected and now approaching unfairable. Then you have the courts. And around 1920, the progressives again decided they need to make case law and not constitutional law. So stop looking at the constitution and reading it the way the founders wanted it.

Read it case law. If we could get one case to say this, then it builds on that. And then suddenly the constitution doesn't matter anymore. So they completely rotted all of the ideas that governments are instituted among men to protect those rights that you have. They rotted all of that. So you don't really have a constitutional government the way we, and we haven't for a hundred years, the way our founders envisioned it. Then between 1910 and 1920, all of those things happened. Congress changed.

The Senate changed. The administrative state under Woodrow Wilson, case law. All of it happened between 1910 and 1920. But they needed one other thing, because if you can control two things, health and money, you control people completely. So they took over your money. And this was voted on over and over and over again. And the American people kept saying no. And so they all got together, all these bankers and these senators got together and went to Jekyll Island for a week.

And they put together this whole idea of the Federal Reserve and named it the Federal Reserve. So people would think that it's part of the federal government. It passed. It became a constitutional amendment. And what does it do? It controls everything. It controls your inflation. It controls the boom and the bust period.

It controls everything. Basically, it controls you. It takes us from a country that says, you can do anything to you can do anything if the federal government says it's okay. And if the bank says it's okay, before you could do anything and the government just played referee, now the banks and the federal government pick and choose winners. Well, no, you need a light. You can't just go out and do something. You need a license for that. Why do I need a license for that?

I mean, some things I think I need a license for. Hair cut, cutting people's hair? I mean, in the era of straight razors, maybe, maybe. That's not happening anymore. do I need that? I need a license for why? Why? So the state cannot just make their money, but the state also has control. They also tell you how you spend your money, how much money you have. How much money is that worth? What will the bank allow? And so we see this and we see this corrupt system and we're like, oh, those rich people, you're targeting the wrong rich people.

for instance California is now targeting billionaires. Oh, the billionaires. We got to tax the billionaires. They're just going to move. That's all that's going to happen. They have enough money. They're going to move. They'll move their corporation.

They'll move everything out of California. They'll move someplace else. And if Texas decides to do that, they'll do. Did you learn anything from France? This is what France did. All the billionaires moved. Tax the billionaires. What does taxing the billionaires actually do?

What high taxes actually do? Take it away from you and give the power to the state. Now, let me take a quick break and I'm going to come back and tell you, so what is this all created? Why is the Federal Reserve so important? We go back to the chalkboard, one final row on the chalkboard. What is this created and what's the solution? Next.

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I believe he did. That'll have to be approved. in a court of law. But he thinks that he shouldn't have to answer for any of that because, well, he's the chairman of the Federal Reserve. There are $700 million over budget money you're paying for. Now, I don't disagree that they need renovation. I'm sure they need renovate. The White House needed renovation, although Donald Trump paid for that or got private donors to pay for that renovation. You're not paying for it. Let me ask you this private corporation known as the Federal Reserve, why are you paying for the renovation? Why isn't Citibank? Why aren't the big banks

paying for the renovation of their corporate headquarters, basically, the one that's bailing them out all the time? Why aren't they paying for it? Why are you paying for it? You don't know the answer to that because they won't even open their books. You cannot ask for their books and their records. Let me ask you this. Can you imagine running a business in America where you didn't, where you could tell the IRS? You don't look at my books. Do you think anything? Do you think anything? bad might happen if no one could ever look at your corporation's books? We can't. They're completely opaque. We don't actually know who owns them. We don't know who they are. They're shareholders. Who are their shareholders? Who do they answer

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move, but I think the right move. The other one, strangely, is happening on the left, and it is the right move, but I don't know why they're making this move. I have theories of why they're making this move, but I also think it is a dangerous move. It means something more than their words, I believe. We'll talk about Hamas is a terrorist organization from everyone on the left posting that this weekend. What's going on here? We'll talk about that. I mean, it's true, and I'm glad, but why? More in a minute. First, let me tell you about Burn a Launcher. Personal safety is not something

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But it is also happening around the rest of the world with Donald Trump and here in our own country. So let me start first with what Donald Trump is doing. You know, usually a great realignment. It's not going to come with trumpets. Usually it moves quietly through shipping lanes and energy contracts and currency flows. and alliances that no longer hold. You notice the world is changing. What Donald Trump is doing right now

is not just America first or simply America first. It is something far more disruptive. It is a reset of the entire system and of loyalty and the way we gain loyalty or show loyalty. Since the end of World War II, the United States built a system that was really built on, think arrogance, stupidity, and assumptions.

And those assumptions are this, that allies will always remain allies because we're a generous nation. And we all want to get along. And we all have the same things that we want to do. We want to stop those commies from coming west. Okay, well, that hasn't been the problem for a while. The commies are already here. Okay.

Well, we want to stop. Do we really want to stop invasions? What is happening in Europe with the, that the invasion? of Islamists. That is an invasion, and it's happening here. Is anybody talking about it? Is NATO doing anything? No.

So we thought that we would all have the same principles and that we could all go along, and because we're really, really generous, okay? Also, we believe that our adversaries could be managed through our generosity and engagement. Okay. And that stability meant more than leverage. Trump comes in and he rejects all of that and he should honestly it has been a colossal we've tried it for 100 years and it's gotten to us gotten us where we are today in a giant mess so he rejects all of that and has for decades he's been talking about this and his strategy is really brutally simple no more free rides sorry that's not going to pick up the bill anymore you're going to have to grow up no more ambiguity at all. No more pretending economics and security are separate

because they're not. Oil, money, guns, protection, trade. They're not independent tools. They are one weapon. If used right, they are one negotiating tool or one weapon. So look at what

is happening right now around the world. In Latin America, regimes that survived, honestly, only by laundering legitimacy through, you know, ideology are now being forced to choose reform or we isolate you. In Europe, our long-time allies are being asked the uncomfortable question. Are you partners or are you freeloaders? Are you partners or are you dependent on us? In Asia, the message is, you know what, supply lines are battle lines? Period. They are.

because we know you've stated it, you want to rule the world, we don't want you ruling the world. You rule yourself, but not us, not the rest of the world. So diplomacy has gone from not just a conversation, but diplomacy now is pressure. And if you have a couple of things, that's a really good thing. Here's why it could be very, very good. If it works, it will restore clarity to a world that is just drowning in everything being gray. there's no clarity on anything. It also forces nations to actually stand for something.

When you are forced to do something or say something, you have to make a decision. Do I believe this? Is this who I am? Is this who we are? And nobody's been forced to do that. They just go along with it. And they can become whatever they want.

But this forces you to stand and pick aside. Okay. It also rewards sovereignty over this global bureaucracy. that is doing nothing but killing all of us. And it dismantles the illusion that authoritarian regimes can hide behind trade while exporting their biggest trade. And that's chaos. It reminds the world that peace is not free and it never was. While doing that, it is breaking up the entire coalition of convenience between Russia, Iran, China.

you know, this axis of evil with North Korean and everything else, that's not based on trust. That is based on a shared resentment of the United States of America and a shared willingness to state out loud. They should go away. They should be destroyed. So I think all of these things are good things. But there is a real danger. And we are entering that danger zone, if you will, if I may quote, Kenny Loggins. The danger zone that we're in right now and you're starting to see it is isolation breeds desperation.

When you take a whole bunch of adversaries at once and you put pressure on them all at once, that forces cooperation among them that may not have otherwise to exist, but it also makes them a little more dangerous because they're backed up into a corner. and World War III, I believe we're in it right now, but it's a cold war. Hot wars, all of them, but this one for sure, if we go into a hot war, it will be from a miscalculation. Somebody will miscalculate and say they'll never do that, and they will. And that miscalculation could cause millions of people to die.

Doing nothing will cause millions of people to die, because you can live in any world you want to live in, but you can't live in a world based in reality if you think that this can go on this way forever. It can't. But when you risk economic shockwaves when you don't respect borders, you risk allies hedging their bets, not towards freedom, but towards survival.

And that's where we're headed right now. most of all you have to be very careful so you don't risk overestimating control and how much power you really have systems always break in the most unexpected places this is why this is why you know central control never works because you try to do something great and something unexpected happens and you're sitting there and the you know the energy market will snap back or The proxy conflicts ignite into real hot wars or cyber retaliation. Remember, that doesn't wear a uniform. We don't know who those people are.

We don't know how big that army is or even who's funding it at this point. And history is full of people who were right about the problems, but underestimated the cost of the solution. World War I is a prime example of that. so is the people that is set at the peace treaty of Versailles. That is an absolute example of overestimating or I'm sorry, underestimating the cost of the solution. Some people think, you know, Trump says it's his own morality. Trump's strategy is not immoral.

It's also not reckless by default. What it is is very high stakes. And the American people should understand we're playing a very high stakes game. The reason why we have to put so many chips on the table is because we did nothing but encourage it for the last 40 years. I remember growing up as kid hearing Ronald Reagan talk about someday all of our solutions are going to be solutions that none of us want to deal with. The time to deal with it is right now.

Well, we're still not fully dealing with the things he was talking about back then. and they're only going to get harder and harder to do. You know, it requires us now to know, it requires us now to know when pressure becomes punishment and when punishment creates martyrs instead of outcomes. The world's being reshaped right now. Alliances are being tested, not by words, but by consequences. And whether this moment becomes the foundation of a more stable order

or the spark of a more volatile one, it's not going to be decided by you or me or my speeches. It's going to be decided by what breaks first. And we have to be very, very careful. Did you see that Britain is coming over and they want to make a deal with Canada now on free speech? They're trying to get Canada, and they will, to sign up to ban X and Elon Musk.

Because they know, name one person who has done more for freedom of speech in the world. Name one person that has done more than Elon Musk. You may disagree with him, but can you tell me one person who has opened the door for freedom of speech more than

he has? Europe doesn't like it. Believe me, China doesn't like it. There are many people here that don't like it. Canada doesn't like it. But they're generally all the elites that don't like it. Okay. That's an unintended consequence. When Donald Trump,

overestimated the pressure at the wrong time to say something about Canada, he inadvertently put the current premier into place in Canada because it was like, oh yeah, screw you Donald Trump. And they voted against their own interest just to show Donald Trump. So you have to be very, very careful and watch people's words, especially when people change their words dramatically. This has happened internally here this weekend. You notice it's one of the most amazing things I've ever seen.

What is the regime of Iran, if not oppressive, to women and homosexuals first? Homosexuals are killed. They're thrown off buildings. They're persecuted. They're raped to death sometimes. Is this a good place or a bad place for homosexuals or anyone who chooses a different sexual lifestyle? The answer is clearly no. It's one of the worst places in the world.

How about for women? Is the Islamic regime good for women? You can be married off if your dad to someone. my daughter is going to marry this 60 year old man at nine it's legal and they do it and I don't know if you've seen any of the videos of these girls who are going to their wedding of a 60 year old man and they're nine and they're just crying like I mean you can imagine nine years old and now I'm going to have sex with this 60 year old man it is sickening absolutely sickening how about how is it good for women and freedom to control their own bodies?

So why is the left not in the streets right now, shoulder to shoulder, with me and others, saying freedom for the Iranian and Persian people, freedom, this regime has got to collapse. Why are they not doing that? And at the same time, why did they change their language in a very important way this week? I'll tell you what that was and why I think it's happening. And then we're going to go to Iran and we're going to talk to somebody who has the update on everything that's happened in Iran in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about Z Factor. Yes, you could hire a hypnotist to show up your house every night, stand at the foot of your bed, swing a pocket watch back and forth and start telling you your eyes are getting very, very heavy.

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And it got really, really ugly. But that should show you people have had enough. Now, let me just give you some names. New York Attorney General Letitia James. Here's what she tweeted this weekend. Hamas is a terrorist organization. and we do not support terrorists. AOC.

Hey, so marching into a predominantly Jewish neighborhood and leading a chance saying we support Hamas is disgusting and an anti-Semitic thing to do. Pretty basic. Chuck Schumer, let's be clear. Hamas is a terrorist organization. Governor Kathy Hochel. Hamas is a terrorist organization that calls for the genocide of Jews. Jillebran, Hamas is a terrorist organization committed to the murder of Jews. Hmm.

Mamdani, as I said earlier today, chance in support of a terrorist organization have no place in our city. It goes on and on and on. Why is this happening? Why is this happening? To me, there's a couple of reasons, and I want to bring Jason in on this. There's a couple of reasons that could be happening. They actually have always believed that. Or there's a change coming.

and they know that they are going to be on a chopping block. This is going to suck them into places they don't want to stand anymore. Do you understand what I'm saying, Jason? Yeah. What do you think it is? I think it could be a couple of things. One is a little more scary. The other one is, I think, I think is a good sign for what's happening.

And that's the mood has changed in the country, and they're going to be on a chopping block. themselves and people will say I reject you if they don't change now yeah express express the one that unfortunately I think you could be right the one that is the scary option to you well we know that in true top down bottom up you know inside out you know in that playbook we know that the left has been playing footsies with these people for a long time they've welcomed in the red green alliance even though the red green alliance doesn't make any sense like you were just pointing out I mean you are pro LGBT element

but for some reason you're for the people that throw homosexuals off buildings. It does not make sense. You are pro, you know, women's rights, you know, feminism, all that stuff. But somehow you're also pro the people that will force women into certain clothing and then put all these different roles on him that are beneath men. It makes no sense. So I think that, you know, if you have been playing footsie with some of these people and you know that they're about to get violent. Maybe you have heard that they're about to get violent, possibly in certain attacks. You're going to want to get out in front of this immediately. Immediately. It was a little frightening because they all were saying exactly the same thing. We'll have more

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If you call them leaders, I don't know if their leaders are just a, they rule through violence. But we're looking at it very seriously. The military is looking at it. And we're looking at some very strong options. We'll make a determination. Some of the protesters were killed through the stampeding. I mean, you know, there's so many of them. And some were shot.

Are we getting a full report? I'm getting an hourly report and we're going to make a determination. We are in a, we're in a dangerous situation. Donald Trump is not somebody whose words you should dismiss if you were talking about him going in and taking care of a situation. For a guy who does not like war, he goes and he uses our military strategically, quickly. But, you know, again, everything in the world is on the edge. And he's kind of in a tough place because he has said, you start killing the protesters and we're locked and loaded. The president blows all of the credibility he's had around that he's built up because he is a man of action and man of his word.

How is he going to react? Goldie Gamari is with us now. She was on with us last week. Persian. Were you ever a citizen of Iran? Were you living in Iran when this thing fell or did you come with your parents? After the 1979 Islamic Pudita, I was born in Iran, but my parents came to Canada when I was a year old. Okay. And you are a human rights activist and watching this and you care deeply, obviously.

Tell us what happened over the weekend, before we get into Trump. What happened over the weekend? It seemed to have been growing, but at the same time, the oppressions, seem to be growing? Yes. So the movement, the revolution has definitely escalated. We saw videos coming out, footage of millions and millions of Iranians all across the country, going out into the streets and peacefully marching, peacefully demonstrating. And they were saying this is the final battle.

Pahlavi will return. Pahlavi is, of course, the crown prince. Rizelahavi, who is the leader of the leader of the... Iranian National Revolution. But you're absolutely right. At the same time, we started to see escalating violence. And this is what the regime does. So right now we're in the endgame.

And the reason that the violence is being escalated, the regime knows that it's on its way down. And it's basically going scored about this last time, Glenn, where I said one of the interesting things about what we have seen so far, like this was last week, is that the internet still hasn't been shut down. And I predicted that I think someone has been smuggling Starlink into the country. And just a few days ago, Elon Musk confirmed that he is actually assisted in bringing hundreds of thousands of Starlink devices into occupied Iran. So first of all, I want to give a big, big shout out to Elon Musk. He is, he's a hero of the Iranian revolution. Yeah,

and Iranians love him. So that's how we've been able to get footage. come out because what the Islamic dictatorship has done now is they have shut down the internet, they've, you know, cut it completely. And we always know that when that happens, that's when they slaughter Iranians. And so the crown prince, there's al-Qa-Lavi, he has the most reliable sources. And yesterday he did an interview with Maria Bartharomo on Sunday morning dinkeers. And he confirmed that as of yesterday, the number of casualties, in occupied Iran is more than 9-11.

So we know that for a fact, but we also know that this is the final push. And President Trump's message has given Iranians a lot of hope. We know that he's going to act because he is a man of his word. It's just a matter of when. So we're all hoping that President Trump acts sooner rather than later because the situation, it's gotten really bad. on really bad.

Yeah. How should he react? What should the president do? I'm not, I'm not a military strategist, so I can't, I can't say, obviously, I mean, we don't want, like, World War Free or anything like that, but, you know, Marco Rubio said it best, there's never been a population where, you know, there's never been, like, a situation where the people of a country are so fundamentally opposed to those who are running, the country. So all I can say is that we all trust in President Trump. We trust in his expertise.

We know that whatever decision he's going to make is the right one. Iranians, like, they're not giving up. They're still out in the streets. You know what? So when the Islamic regimes found out that Elon Musk has helped smuggle in Starlink, they have now brought in military-grade jammers that they purchased from the CCP and those military grade jammers have now jammed the starlight so so we're getting even even less um even less uh videos coming out which means the situation is pretty bad we know that the Islamic regime they've also brought in their terrorist proxy forces but the the few messages that we are able to get from inside occupied Iran um what Iranians are telling us is that, yes, the situation is bad. And, you know, what we're seeing right

now or what we're hearing about in terms of the casualties, it's maybe only like 20 or 30% of the truth, like, of the actual numbers. But what they're saying is that now is not the time for tears. This is the final battle. And what Iranians are asking, for those of us who are outside of Iran, is to be their voice and to just let people know that even though the internet is shut down, that doesn't mean that the revolution isn't happening. In fact, the revolution is growing. It's basically everyone now. Everyone is out of the streets, and it's now or never. And Iranians, they can smell and taste freedom after 47 years of Islamic oppression. I will tell you that, you know, I pray for the Iranian and the Persian people.

I pray for this evil, evil regime to come down. I, I do not want our troops to get involved in another foreign war. But I don't think that it's going to take much from President Trump. If we withdraw our support or we remain silent, it's going to end up the way it did under Biden and Barack Obama. And that only strengthens our enemy at times. It'll make them stronger, at least for a short period of time. And it will become very, very, very dangerous for, everybody involved and make the people that want to go march in the street the next time

a little more hesitant because this time we said something. And I'm glad I'm not the president today. Let me just say that. I'm glad I'm not the president today. And I pray that he makes the right decision for everybody involved. Thank you. I'm sure he will. And, you know, I agree with you.

I don't want boots on the ground. No Iranians want, like, the Iranian people themselves are the boots on the ground. Yes. So in that sense, you know, we don't want, you know, we don't want to, you know, drag people into another war, anything like that. But, again, I'm not a military strategist, but, you know, like maybe president, like, I'm hoping he does something like, you know, what he did with the nuclear facilities. I don't know. I mean, maybe something like that. But what I can't say is that, you know, Iranians, they're hopeful. and the Crown Prince,

he actually put out a very interesting message yesterday to Iranian people that the mainstream media are not picking up on. So he actually said... What did he say? So he confirmed yesterday. He said, we are not alone, and international help is on the way. So he actually said that in his message.

So that, to me, gives me hope. And it's given 90 million Iranians hope that President Trump will be doing something. and we have faith in him that whatever decision it is, it's going to be the best possible decision for everyone. We have one shot at this, and, you know, President Trump, he knows best. He knows best.

He has the intel. So we're all very hopeful. You know, like President Trump has never been more popular right now in occupied Iran. Iranians are literally going out and they're renaming signs after him, calling it President Trump Street. But not only that, Iranians also know how much support they have from, you know, everyone outside. And there's actually just one thing I wanted to say to you personally, Glenn. Someone told me to check your profile last night.

And when I checked your profile pictures, I got a little emotional. I'm not going to say, I got a little bit emotional what you did for your listeners, if they don't know, you changed your bio picture to the real flag of Iran meaningful. And I can say that on behalf of all Iranians for the solidarity that we're seeing from Americans because we feel like this is the first time in 47 years that people are realizing that we're not the enemy of America. We love America. We love Americans. We used to be allies before 1979.

and it's, you know, we're both fighting the same enemy, which is this evil Islamic dictatorship. So, you know, a free Iran is going to mean a safer America. And I just, I cannot wait until we can, you know, be like officially, right, the allies again. So just I want to thank you for your supportive solidarity. That's a meaningful gesture. You are more than welcome. I urge everybody to put on your, put on your social media, just put the real flag. of Iran, which is, it looks just like the Iranian flag, except it doesn't have the Islamic thing in the middle.

It has the golden tiger in the center, or lion, sorry, yeah, the golden lion. And it, it, I think people all around the world need to stand up for the Persian people. They have been living under this oppressive regime for a long time with so much courage. And like Golding just said, nobody has really stood up for them. and you know, you can never give freedom to people. They have to earn it, but they are earning it and they want it desperately. And this is the turning point. If Iran falls, this is the turning point against Islamic extremism.

They no longer have this huge pile of money and this giant proxy that is there. And you will see things begin to turn because of this. I think it's why the left this weekend started coming out against Tamas and saying it's a terrorist organization. They haven't been on that bandwagon for a while. And it's because the Persian and Iranian people are standing up and saying, we're not saying we're against this regime. We're against Sharia law. We are against this oppressive idea that Islam is a government. It can be a religion, not a government.

And it's oppressive. and they are proving everything that the left has been cozing up to is poison. And it is so important. I don't want to do it through force. I don't really want us to get involved. I want the people to be able to do it. And anything that we can do to strengthen them with our voices and our support online, all of us should be doing anything that we can do with speaking out for the Iranian and the Persian people

and standing up for them to be able to be free, we should do, and Goldie, I would love to, when it falls, I would love to be one of the first people that can walk on the streets of a free Iran and broadcast my show from there. You would be more than welcome. You would love to have you.

Oh my gosh, you know, as soon as Iran is free, we're looking forward to welcoming Americans back to Iran. Like we cannot wait, we cannot wait. And I just wanted to point out something really, really poetic. 47 years ago, Jimmy Carter and the Democrats helped to turn Iran into an Islamic dictatorship. And now, 47 years later, the 47th president of the United States is going to free Iran and fix the mistake that Jimmy Carter and the Democrats made 47 years ago. That's so incredibly poetic.

And I just want to say, God bless President Trump. God bless America. Thank you so much, Goldie. I appreciate it. God bless you. If you would like to get more information and follow, please just follow her. You can find her at X at G-G-G-H-A-M-R-M-A-R-I. It's G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-Mari.

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I would think that, you know, the first show of power is you start moving all of those assets over there. Yeah. And that says something to the mullahs. I wonder why we haven't done that yet. Maybe we think we don't have to anymore. But I pray for the president, pray for the president and pray for his advisors and pray for our military, that they make the right decision, that they are guided by God. Because this one is all of these things. Everything we're dealing with right now.

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He's always talked me out of the tree. He's always said, look, Glenn, this is very clear how this happens, yada yada, and just because we might be, you know, at step seven of a ten-step, you know, you know, program to get you to a genocide, we're a long way away. He told me something Friday that will curl your hair

and it comes out on Wednesday, and you have to hear it. His warning to the world is a little terrifying and should make us pay attention to what is also happening in Iran closely. All right, we're going to turn this to socialism and what it actually does and how it starves people to death with a guy who was actually involved in Venezuela. He was a former head of training for Cargill, and he saw firsthand how the food crisis was caused in Venezuela

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Okay, do we have Jeff on? Jeff Katzen is the Cargill former head of training, and he can tell us what really happened in Venezuela with a food crisis. Remember, it went from one of the richest, most prosperous countries in the hemisphere to a country that was literally eating the zoo animals because there was nothing left. And that went on and on and on under Maduro. And the man who has kind of a firsthand insight on that is Jeff Kaysen. And he's with us now.

Hi, Jeff. How are you? Yeah, good morning. It's good to have you on. So how did you get involved in Venezuela? What was your role there with Cargill? Yeah, so first off, I am a former employee. I was the head of trading for the region, and Cargill had a substantial business there in it all the way to retail.

So they were bringing in raw materials, processing wheat to flour, refining vegetable oil, making pasta, making rice. So a lot of very staple type of commodities that fed the country, and it had been a long-standing business, also had salt, also had feed mills, Pretty standard action, and so we have a centralized group, so I would have a group in Krakis working for me, and I would be managing across the entire region from the U.S. So you, minute rice, that's Cargill, right? Cargill did have a parboil rice plant there.

It was nationalized, I believe, in 2009. Tell me what nationally, because most people don't even understand. Oh, it was nationalized. Explain what that actually means. In this case, and you know, it can be very ways they do it. But in this case, armed people show up at the plant and say, we're taking over. You're in violation of some law or, you know, you're gouging the population, and we can run it at a lower price.

And so they did. They showed up and hats off to my employer at the time. We immediately just told our employees that safety is first and get out. managers, some of them actually were exited the country. They took the plan over. I don't believe it ever ran again. They didn't have any expertise to run the plant. We did receive the plant back a number of years later.

Empty, all the equipment was either sold in the global black market or scrap. Jeez. Because anything that could originate a dollar, hard currency in there across the country, is, you know, it's one thing, it's scrapped clean. And so that's the situation. They said that you were gouging the poor, but that's not, I mean, there are a thousand generals in the army. And that's part of the problem, right? Isn't it all kind of divvied up between them?

Yeah, I mean, it's divvied up between the military, and that's how you buy loyalty. And then even on the ground, right, they've armed militias in the cities, and they've divvied up the cities. to think of them maybe like regions of the old mob. So that all is, to my understanding, it still exists. It is a very complicated situation on the ground that I don't think as Americans we should underestimate how complicated that is. What do you mean by that? How do you mean?

Well, you have an entire generation. If you're hungry, you do things to survive, right? And theft is not, doesn't carry the stigma. I would say, I wouldn't say violence extortion. I mean, you have to do things that if you were out and you went and stole something, I'd look down on you as American. But that's not the case in a country where you're trying to survive, right? People don't look at that.

It's my neighbor stole this so they could feed their family. Right. That's a cultural thing, and that's not going to go away overnight. The people, though, generally speaking, when do you think they figured it out that this was really bad? Or do you think they knew from the beginning? I'm not, that's a little bit too political probably for me. I think it just got too, you know, it just grows over time. You know, our experience around these type of takeovers around the world, my personal lifetime experiences, these never were.

and obviously it got away, right? There was an election, though, originally, and a populist government did win the first election. Right, right, right. Back and back. And so I think it's a very important, in my, again, personal opinion for a republic or democracy to thrive, that we have an extremely wide and strong,

working middle class. And I think that gets away from you. You can lose an election. Right. So the government opened grocery stores, because they said that things were, you know, where you were being gouged and everything else. And so they opened that.

What happened there? Yeah, I mean, you can see this. I saw this as a proposal in New York City, and it just brought back nightmares, right? So the government said, okay, we're going to provide the population. We're going to open grocery stores, and we're going to provide food cheaper.

And they did, right? They took money from other parts of the economy, maybe the petrol economy, or they just printed money. and they would buy, literally buy bottled oil from us and sell it below cost at these stores. Well, eventually, the private industry goes bankrupt, right? It can't compete. And so all these private grocery stores start to go out of business because people who, by the way, are hungry,

they're going to go and buy that food at the cheapest, you know, that calorie at the cheapest location. And then it spirals right now. You only have state stores, right, that are not responsive to what the country. consumer wants. You know, it forces private industry out, and then you start to see the, you know, the empty shelves and the reduced choices and things like that. It just, it grows over time. And then the government handouts become more necessary, and so the people become more dependent on it, right? That's absolutely right. When you're hungry and your choice is either to comply or starve, right?

You're more apt to comply, and that's human nature, and you can't fault the Venezuela and people for that. We would do the same thing. So that's really the sad thing is people don't understand, you know, like people coming across the border. I have said, I'm strongly against illegal immigration, but I've often said, you know, how do you blame people who are starving in their own country,

especially if the country says we don't care about the laws, just come on in. I mean, I know I would do that for my family. To be able to feed my family so they would have a better stable life, I would absolutely cross a border in the middle of the night if I had to. I mean, it's hard to blame people for doing what governments have so screwed up to not get out of there and go someplace where you can feed your family. Yeah, I think you're absolutely, I think we have to have. have a lot of empathy for the people who came here looking for a better life.

When the border was open, in theory, they thought it was legal. And they made a run. And I think as, you know, things go over these next six months, eight months a year, you have to have a lot of empathy for people here legally and illegally, that they were chasing a dream. And I sometimes think, yeah, some of them definitely were. And I think we need to have empathy on all sides for these people. Tell me about how the dollar is used because you were trying to buy raw materials, right, to make, you know, to make things out of wheat.

You had to buy it. But what happened to the system? Yeah, so the government not only outspent their petro dollars and, of course, the petro capacity, you know, plummeted over time. So they just printed money and it, you know, a lot different than here. You know, I think in my time there, which is around 2015 to 18, the boulevard went from like a dollar would buy 800 Boulevard to the dollar would buy like $12,000. So the currency became non-functioning and it basically becomes somewhat of a barter economy. And the only way we have to sell products by law and boulevars, we have to be able to exchange that. And the only place we could exchange it was with the government,

I'm making this a little too complicated. We needed dollars to go buy cargos of U.S. wheat or Canadian wheat. And so it was all about getting somebody in the government that give us an allocation of dollars. And over time, it was okay when it started. And then over time, it just got corrupted. We couldn't get allocations of dollars or those allocations of dollars went to local firms

that were willing to pay bribes. and do the facilitating payments to make it work. It was very hard to import just the raw materials to go through the plants to feed the people. And then it just compounded because we couldn't import things they needed or make things in country they needed. Actually, import strangely enough had to rise of finished goods, which, you know, that hurts employment and on down the line. It's just there's so many strange and unintended consequences when you get into this type of economy. the people that worked for you, I'm assuming that you had American standards, or as close as you could for the plant.

And I would imagine that that would be a problem going home from a plant like that, when nobody else has that kind of access. Am I wrong? Yeah, I mean, you know, first we did work for a company that held American standards wherever they worked in the world, and they did a good job. And so that made my world really clear. We weren't going to pay bribes and that. But personal security, you know, as soon as that employee, you know, they leave our guarded compound, gated compound.

You know, they're going to go home to a gated compound apartment complex. They liked, of course, we were in a large office building in Krakis. You know, we had some things. They liked coming to work. It was safe. We had Internet access, so access to the global work. old. We had a gym. We had hot showers because even at home, I mean, you didn't know. Imagine going to your home and this week you don't know if you're going to have water or this week you're not going

to have electricity. Not just hot water. Water. Yeah, not just hot water, water, right? So, you know, it was, you know, we provided our employees with a staple of box because we made staples, right? So that every week they would get a box of staples to take home with them. And a lot of Western companies did a lot of good things, but eventually, you know, you wouldn't want to live like that either. And the people, the first real huge waves of Venezuelans around the world were the educated, the ones that had resources. And they distributed themselves all over the world, a lot of them to Spanish speaking, some to the U.S. And my experience was, you know, they were great, great people to have. We re-employed them in plants all over Latin America, engineers and managers, fantastic.

but you can imagine the brain drain that goes on, it goes on, right? You need people that can run water plants and electrical generation stations, and that left the country. So, Jeff, I've got about a minute left. Why does it seem like the world just never learns its lesson on this stuff? We just keep doing the same thing over and over again.

Why? Yeah, I was thinking about, you know, we entered the former Soviet Union. I've lived in the Czechoslovakia when it was still. And, you know, it's almost like we forget, right? Did it take? And then the lucky thing about Venezuela is it's about 25-ish years. So it's maybe not so as ingrained as it was in the Soviet Union.

And you've got to be optimistic. I mean, the country has resources, natural resources, and it's got a, you had a really good education system for a long time. If you can attract some of these people to come back, the professionals, the doctors, the technicians, you know, there is a reason to be optimistic that the system is not so ingrained in the culture. Yeah. Jeff, thank you so much.

I appreciate it. You have an inside look at what things were like. You've seen it over and over again. I don't think I'd want your job. But see it over and over. Yeah. All right. Well, hey, thanks for having us on and I hope provide this some insight.

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Guy takes more vacation than, well, it's actually in jail after the Philadelphia loss yesterday, but that's a different story. Hi, Ricky. Hi, Glenn. I was struck by something that your guest just said. He said, the reason why this keeps happening is because people forget about the realities of socialism and how it will impact in the next generation. Isn't this why you're building torch? Yeah, it is. It is.

And actually, I don't think it's, you know, it's interesting because what I was thinking when you were asking me this question was, I don't think it is that they forget about the reality of socialism. They forget about the realities of what it takes to actually have this system. You know, they don't understand that this system is very fragile and has never happened before like this in the history of the world. And so they forget, nobody's teaching them about the evils of socialism and what it actually does. and nobody is actually teaching them what capitalism, which we don't have right now, by the way, what that actually means and how it works and how our system is really a miracle. That's why we're building the torch. And in the next 12 months, you will see some education things that you're not going to find anywhere else.

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hopefully we're going to be hearing good endings coming out of Venezuela and Iran. Hopefully. We'll start to hear from the Persian. people about what life was like under these mullahs, when that comes to an end, please pray for the people of Iran, that that comes to a peaceful conclusion where the mullahs go away forever. It is well within the realm of possibility. But I think we also need to understand that Venezuela is not free.

Everybody was complaining, ah, regime change. He just wants regime. He didn't change the regime. He took one bad guy out. the vice president. Now, I did some research on this last night, and I had somebody of real credibility tell me this, but I don't know if it's,

I don't know if it's accurate, because I couldn't find it anywhere last night, that the father-in-law of the current president of Venezuela was Carlos the Jackal. And also her father was big, you know, socialist, communist, involved in a lot of other really bad thing. This is not a friendly regime.

And so the Venezuelan people are still being oppressed. And it is not good. I mean, that's kind of an understatement, especially when you hear from Renzo Castillo. He is a guy. He's an American citizen. He was detained, if you will. He was tortured in Venezuela because why?

I don't know. and his wife is still being held. Renzo is with us now to tell us what happened. He was in jail in Venezuela for 300 days, and it took Marco Rubio to negotiate to get him released. Renzo, welcome. How are you doing? Good morning. Thank you so much for giving me the time.

You bet. So tell me what happened. How did this start? How were you arrested? Well, just to make a little quick, adjustment to that. I was, I was never arrested because this is what they told me. I was never detained. I was only being held for questioning, an investigation. So you were held hostage? I was held hostage. I was kidnapped. Worse. Okay. So you were never charged with anything?

Well, at first, I was charged with one different account. I was charged for espionage. So when I got to the prison in which they sent me, which is rodeo one prison, there's a maximum security prison in Venezuela. When they took me there, they had fake names and they had our charges, which was espionage. And I was very like, you know, I was very like confused, like what's going on

because they just put this thing and they had a fake name for me. So I was a little bit afraid that they were hiding me. And then I've noticed that's when I realized there were a few more Americans where I was at. And then somebody got from a different country. And then we, they didn't know because they didn't have nobody across from them. They couldn't see the paper.

So, but once I got across from them and I voted to see the paper that they had, you know, I told them, hey, is your name this? And they're like, no, that's not my name. I go, well, they have you under this name. And then, so they didn't know. And they had all of us under espionage. And then on December 16th, it was the day in which they decided to present us to a so-called court. But they had a judge, and then they had a public attorney that came over in which the charges went from Eswanans to terrorism.

It was like four charges of terrorism. And that's for all the foreigners. And for the Venezuelans, like my wife, it was the same charges plus treason. So just reason itself. Because she's a citizen of Venezuela, right? You're not a citizen of Venezuela. She is. Correct.

Correct. She was born in Venezuela, but she was not living in Venezuela when I met her. I had met her in Peru in South America while I was vacationing. And we had bought a house in Venezuela that we were kind of like fixing together. So she went back to Venezuela, but she can be with her kids and build a house together. So this way, when I go there, we have somewhere to go, you know? So that was the plan. And so she was back in Venezuela for like maybe about six months or something like that. And then I have flew to Columbia so I can see her because the flights were super expensive. At that moment, there were still flights to Venezuela. So there wasn't like a super high risk saying, hey, do not go to Venezuela yet, you know, because people always say like, well,

how did you go? Like, well, nobody knew what was going on. Like the reason nobody can go is because of us now, but it wasn't us before, you know? So the reason why I didn't fly in there, because the tickets were really, really expensive. So we decided to take a road trip from Colombia to Venezuela to where she lives at with those houses that. It's about 12 hours from their border from Colombia. So we decided to take a little road trip. And when we crossed the border, I was with a over there in Venezuela, I mean, and Colombia, they have taxis on motorcycles and they have regular

taxis, right? So I was in a taxi driven by a motorcycle that was just going to take me across the border while I wait for my wife and her best friend to cross the reason. The reason why we did that is because the taxi driver had to drop off a package to his family in Venezuela, in Tachita, which is at the city where it happened. And he was going to charge me like so much less just for him doing that favor. And I'm like, I don't care. I mean, the motor taxi, motorcycle taxi was like $3. I'm like perfect.

So all I have to do is just like wait literally like less than a mile from the border. So when we are crossing the border patrol, which they look more like military, you know, they just kind of waved and they let us go through. So they didn't stop us. And then I was waiting at the location. But, you know, what happened is like after like an hour, an hour and a half, I was very worried because she was only like two cars behind. But the motorcycle guy goes to the border and he goes, hey, man, I don't see him. I'm like, what do you mean? So maybe they're checking the car because I have brought a lot of stuff to Venezuela, like for the house.

and for the kids, you know. So we just waited a little bit. Then it happened like about over two hours and that particular moment. He goes back over and he goes like, man, I don't see them. I don't see them. 30 minutes after that, the military guys come over and they see the motorcycle that's sitting down

and he calls them over. He was like, you come here. And then I was sitting in a table and then the military guy comes over like you. And then he talks me to come over and I like stand up. Like, you know, I didn't do nothing wrong. And he goes, you come over here.

You're renzo? And I'm like, yeah. And he shows me my, my California ID. And he goes, come with me. And I'm like, what's going on? And he goes like, this is an investigation. And you're not being detained. And they keep grasped me by, like, by my neck.

And he throws me in the back of the car. Oh, sorry, before he throws me in the back of the car, his other partner comes over. And they kind of like tagged him to throw him in the back of the car. But like I said, the border is only like less than a minute from where we were at. So when we get to the border, they take me out of the car, and the first person that I see is my wife, and she's, like, super stressed out. Like, she's pale, and I told her, like, baby, like, we didn't do nothing wrong. We'll just, you know, we'll leave.

You know, we didn't break no law, you know? Right. So they took me inside their little border office, and then that's pretty much when I can say, like, the nightmare began. And they grabbed my phone from my backpack. She had it. That's where my American ID was. And that's on my phone. All my stuff was that, right?

So they grabbed my phone and they told me, just unlock it. And I'm like, why? I'm like, why do you mean to unlock it? Like, do you need like some kind of paperwork? And then he puts the phone on my face. And you know, the new phones now has facial recognition, yeah? So as soon as the phone unlocked, mind me at this particular moment, I am at their office, right? I'm surrounded by, I'm surrounded by the military personnel.

And then he starts looking at my phone. And then all of a sudden, he shows me one of my pictures of me working with the fellas. And, you know, I wear tactical clothing for work because I do security protection and I do private security, you know. So the first thing like he said to me was You're a commando, right? And I'm like, no, I'm not a commando. It's like, what special forces are you from? I'm not from any special forces.

And I was like, are you a Marine? I'm like, no, I don't know what you're talking about. Like I'm not a commandant because this might work. And then she started scrolling into my pictures and then he sees me, you know, with me practicing shooting, me with other guys. And then he asked me. Yeah, exactly, right? So, so I, so I, I, Renzel,

I hate to do this to you, but I'm going to run out of time. So they take you, they take you, and they put you in jail. You're sleeping on the floor. There's other Americans. You're there for a year. When you say you were tortured, what does that mean? How are you tortured? Well, brother, how can I tell you?

Like, it can be physical, mental. Yeah. Physical, I mean, look, check this out, bro. And I haven't said this to nobody. You're the first person that I say this. Sometimes our defiance because we didn't want to blow the rules, you know, I will not eat. Like I will go on hunger strikes. So one time I went on a hunger strike for over a week and a half and they took me to infirmary and at the prison.

Then they say like, if I'm not going to eat, they're going to tube me up. We're going to put a catheter on me and then you're going to put the liquid underwent under vein, I'm sorry, I can't think right now. The IV, yeah. And the IV, so I told them like, no, I'm not going to eat. So then they cuffed me to the bed, like my arms and my feet. And without any anesthesia or anything, they put the catheter on my penis. And then they put that tooth down my throat.

Oh, my gosh. Like eight of them holding my neck. And they were just, like, while I was struggling trying to, like, breathe, they're just putting that tube down my throat. I mean, that's just like one of the things. that happened, you know, and that probably happened like in November. So, that was kind of like pretty rough. I didn't think I can get to do that. What would you say to people who are, you know, these white Karens that are out

protesting the, you know, what the, what actions America has taken in Venezuela to get rid of Maduro and start to put some pressure on them? What would you say to them, the people who, you know, supposedly are protesting for the Venezuelan people? Well, they should talk to Venezuelan people before they start doing this thing because there isn't a person in Venezuela that is not free. And those people that are not connected with the military or are not connected with the cartels, those are the ones that are suffering.

And they're actually, when I was there, all they wanted is for them to be free. And they really did say they were hoping for Trump to help them. And I am sure that's what I hear now because I'm still in contact with them. They are very happy with what was going on. And actually, they even want more intervention because the cartel is still there. I mean, they have Maduro. Maduro is just the face. You know, the person kind of like in charge is Dios Diozdao Cabellio.

And he's still there. He's the person, he's the one that came out. And he's the one that put me on his TV show saying that I was a mercenary and I was here to kill the president. And, you know, a big one plot. It was huge, brother. And then so this particular guy goes out, after the U.S., after Trump said that they want all political prisoners to come out, he has come out, I think, like a day ago, two days ago,

saying that he is not going to let any other political prisoners come out. So he's still in charge. And unfortunately, like, he's still running Venezuela because people are afraid. Like, you know, people don't understand here in the U.S., you know, how beautiful it is that you can go outside and protest. not get killed and not get, you know, not get kidnapped or get pretty much quote and how they call it, disappeared, how they call it in Venezuela. Over here, we have that.

We're able to protest. We're able to speak against some of the leaders without any repercussion. You know what I mean? So people in Venezuela are still suffering because they cannot speak for themselves, you know, they cannot fight. So for those people out there that they are thinking, something that is not, they should probably do the research a little bit more. And they should know a person that I've been all captive and being tortured.

If it wasn't for this administration, I would not know if I was sold. I would be out any anytime soon, you know. And I really appreciate all the hard work that the administration has done Donald Trump, my president, Mark Rubio, the PIA team, which is the team that that the Americans out. And for the people to realize that this is not, no, it sounds like, oh, here it goes the US trying to get oil. Oh, here's there's trying to get.

But you know what? What's more important and all of that is the life of those people, the life of all this political prisoners that are being tortured? That has more value than any tons of gold, any tons of oil or whatever money. You know, because those people that are suffering, no matter how much money you give them, they'll never be happy until they have their family member back, you know? And that's what I think is more important.

Renzo, we pray for you. We pray for your wife who is still in jail, and I thank you so much for your conversation with us. I will tell you that what he's saying here is so incredibly important. You know, as I'm listening to him talk, I'm thinking how many people right now around the world are hoping the United States We'll just pay attention. Not come running in with troops.

Just pay attention. Look at all what happened during COVID. All the people in Hong Kong that were in the streets, they were waving American flag. They just disappeared because we weren't paying attention. We're paying attention now. Please pray for the people in Venezuela. There's a lot left to be done there by the people. And the same in Iran.

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