The Glenn Beck Program - There’s Still Not ONE 'Decent' Democratic Candidate | 11/27/19
Episode Date: November 27, 2019Two new 2020 polls are out, and Democrats DON’T like Elizabeth Warren’s health care plan! Biden’s still on top, Buttigieg’s rising, and Bloomberg may buy some votes. Reports say Obama told can...didates that Biden “doesn’t have it.” And Democratic Rep. Brenda Lawrence changed her mind on impeachment, but only for a day. Meanwhile, Trump told Bill O’Reilly that he NEVER sent Rudy Giuliani to Ukraine, and Melania was booed at an anti-opioid event. Pat and Stu discuss who would make it onto the “Mount Rushmore of Worst Presidents.” Also, Cap’n Crunch, Flamin' Hot Cheetos, and Thanksgiving dinner are all delicious, but flawed. Listeners chime in on the elections, and Jeffy will break bad news to people on the Cameo app for money. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to the program today. It's the day before Thanksgiving, which means, of course, we are already in vacation mode.
We've done no preparation for the show today. In fact, I haven't read a news story all week. That's not exactly true, but it feels like it's close.
There is actually a lot of news today as we get one of those days where everyone's just traveling and you might be listening in your car today.
One of the biggest, of course, travel days of the year. They had a pick up.
that someone posted from L.A.
Where you should have just the lights on these cars on these freeways.
I mean, it was six months until you got to your destination.
These people are still, they're a mile away from the picture that I saw last night.
We have Donald Trump talking about designating Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations.
An interesting thought on Michael Bloomberg that maybe we can get into today.
We have a new poll out.
Elizabeth Warren is cratering.
Buttigieg is on the rise.
And, you know, kind of like the Republican thing in 2016.
The guy with a big name recognition, Joe Biden, is still just hanging out there at the top.
And everyone keeps thinking who's going to beat him and no one seems to beat him.
We'll get into that today as well.
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He is back of Monday, right?
That's the belief, I mean, you never know.
Good, yes.
I mean, unless he slips into a food coma
and he just can't come out of it,
I think he'll be back on Monday.
That's very possible.
I always think there's at least some level of possibility
that he locks himself in a bunker.
Okay.
You know, like he just, maybe he's going down there
to check the food supply,
Dork's close behind him.
We don't find him for a couple months.
That is always a possibility.
That's a possibility.
Sure.
But as far as we know, he's back on Monday.
Okay, good.
And he's got a bunch of big stuff going on as he's kind of advancing his Ukraine thing.
And this is going to be, I guess, the storyline to the end of the year.
The Democrats want to get this impeachment thing over by the end of the year.
They want the vote by the end of the year.
That's strange because they're going to the Judiciary Committee now with Jerry Nadler.
Yep.
If you have an ironclad case, like we heard last week from Schiff,
why are you pushing this now to the judiciary vote?
Well, they have to do the articles of impeachment.
Yes.
So my understanding of the process.
The judiciary writes those up?
Is that what it is?
It's the judiciary that's going to come up with those.
And they go through a series of hearings that are less about the evidence of the case
and more about the process of how impeachment needs to work
and what they're going to go after and how they're going to create the articles of
You know what the problem is.
This just all takes too long.
If we were more like China, we just do this.
Just get him out.
Just throw them out.
That's what you do.
Really?
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
This whole constitutional thing slows things down.
It does.
It ponder things.
Make you think about it.
It doesn't allow you to just do things on impulse.
Yeah.
Which is what we need.
I mean, we need impeachment to be like the Hershey's bar and the checkout line at the grocery store.
You're going through and you see some gum and you see Hershey's.
and like races, you just pick them up.
They're in your mouth.
You don't think about it.
Is it a good choice?
Do I need this candy?
No.
You don't think about that.
Don't worry about that.
Yeah.
You're 30 seconds later.
You're just eating candy.
Yeah.
And that's what you feel terrible about yourself after.
And that's the way this all ends.
We all just feel terrible about ourselves.
It's interesting to see this because I don't, there's an interesting case to be made for Democrats to say,
why are we going to cut this short?
Right.
Like, let's just keep calling witnesses.
Let's draw it out. Let's call all the people in the West Wing,
people like Mulvaney and formerly Bolton, that say that they would testify if courts
demand they testify. Let's put it through the court system. Let's wait several months until
it all shakes out. Let's just keep it going. Because what it looks like to me now,
and I think to a lot of people who are maybe in the middle and looking at this,
this not really understanding the process
and not really knowing where this is going,
it looks like the Democrats are just rushing through this.
Which, by the way, they are.
I mean, it's true.
They are.
But it looks, it's not supposed to look that way.
When you're doing that,
it's supposed to look like you're doing this fair thing.
And we just want to get to the facts.
How can you even argue that when you've spent two weeks on it?
This whole call just came to light like four weeks ago.
And in four weeks, we're already at the point basically where there's a vote on impeachment.
It's insanity.
And I think they're doing that because if it goes,
goes to the Senate, then you could get the
senators who were running for
president embroiled in that. Oh, yeah.
And keep them off the campaign trail.
And they don't want that. But again, who are you
talking about? You're talking about Elizabeth Warren,
Bernie Sanders,
Kamala Harris. Right?
Like, you know,
there's a good argument to be made that a lot of people
in the Democratic Party, in the leadership,
probably don't want any one of those three
as the actual candidate.
I mean, they might want a Biden.
They might want,
A Buttigieg.
They, I mean, they don't, they definitely don't like Sanders.
They don't care about Sanders.
I mean, I don't know.
I am a little concerned about Michael Bennett and what, what's going to happen to him if he can't campaign.
Because right now, he is rocketing to zero percent.
And will he get beyond that?
I don't know.
So hard to get beyond that.
Cory Booker is another one, by the way.
Booker, I love that.
Mr. Spartacus is struggling at still, according to Quipiac, 2%.
He's tied with Yang.
Now, in the national Quinepiac poll, this is amazing to me.
Biden is at number one again, 24%, so he's up three percentage points.
Then it's Buttigieg, up six to 16%.
He's number two now nationally.
Amazing.
That's crazy.
He's the mayor of South Bend, Indiana.
And again, no offense to South Bend, Indiana.
But the mayor of Miramar, Florida just dropped out of the race.
Wayne Messim-Messim.
Messum.
And it's bigger than South Bend.
For whatever reason, the Democrats,
I assume, because I've learned from Democrats,
it must be skin color.
Wayne Messum's black.
So I assume that's why they don't like him,
but they like Buttigieg.
But it is bizarre that this guy
who is a mayor of a small to mid-sized city
is the number two guy,
beating out everybody except Joe Biden.
Somebody nobody had ever heard of
until a few months ago.
He does.
you, though, just from the
sort of eye test as one of the more
competent people. You could tell
he's smart. He doesn't get flustered
by a lot of stuff. Yeah, he's well-spoken.
He's controlled. And he has no record,
which is a nice benefit for the
left. They don't have a lot of stuff
to pick him apart on. They're like, well, he once
fired a police chief that
was unpopular in his community. It's like, all right,
that's your... There's not a lot of
negative on the guy, right? And
you could see this with the other candidates. They
struggle to find things to say that are
about him because he hasn't done anything.
He's like 12 years old.
Yeah.
It's like, wow, he skipped a birthday party last year, and it was at a trampoline park.
They had to pay the fee.
And he promised the friend he'd be there.
Yeah, he promised.
And then no present afterwards, you know, and when he did finally give him a present
after he was called out on it, it was the same president he got from another kid at
his birthday party, a blatant re-gift.
Like, that's about, I don't know.
I don't know what he's, you know, he hasn't really done anything.
And yet there he is at number two.
It's crazy.
Number two.
And Warren has slipped to third.
She's going away.
She dropped 14% over the last couple of weeks.
It does give you...
Does that give you a little bit of hope?
It does.
Yeah, it does.
And especially since Sanders is behind her at 13.
So it does give me hope that maybe, you know, we're not quite there to the socialism yet.
And American people, the American people don't want socialism.
I hope that's still the case.
And it seems like it is.
because Biden's not a socialist,
and I don't think Buttigieg is either.
Then you go to the bottom tier,
and you see the Bloomberg's already at 3%
tied with Harris and Klobuchar.
But he's spending a ton of money to get to that 3%.
So, you think he'll ever have his moment
where he rockets into the teens?
We have to take a 60-second break here,
but I want to come back on the other side.
I have been very dismissive of the Bloomberg thing.
I have to.
And I think with good reason.
There's a lot of good reasons why to be dismissive of Michael Bloomberg.
However, I was listening yesterday to Jim Garrity, who's a very, very smart guy who sees this stuff.
He's with National Review.
And he made a case in the affirmative for Bloomberg that I thought was pretty compelling.
We'll get to that here in 60 seconds.
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Pat and Stufer Glenn,
you were saying that
were you swayed by this case on Michael Bloomberg?
Because we've both been pretty dismissive.
Yeah, kind of.
I think I was swayed to the point of
it shouldn't be completely dismissed.
And here's why.
We've watched, I've made the case on this show
that Tom Steyer is an interesting story
so far in this campaign.
Because Tom Steyer is,
if you've ever seen Tom Steyer,
speak, it would be almost impossible to find a human being more boring than him.
Like he is a giant zilch when it comes to personality.
And, you know, he's very aligned with the far left when it comes to policy.
But I mean, he's got, he's just got nothing going for him when it comes to charisma.
He's just nothing.
Right.
And so he's been able to, and he's qualified again for another debate.
All these guys, like Cory Booker's not getting into this next debate, guys.
William Castro is dumb.
Like these people, there's a lot of these people who are mainstriest,
Candidates are on TV all the time
and can't get into these debates because they stink.
So what can you do with a bunch of money?
Well, Steyer can get on TV.
He spends about $70 million so far on ads
and has been able to do very little in this campaign.
He's been able to get himself to, you know,
three or four or five percent.
There was a poll recently in one of the early states
that had him as high as 9 percent,
which is pretty significant.
You know, I mean, he's become a competitor.
And part of that is,
is the ads. Part of it is the idea that you have someone who can compete with resources when it comes to,
you're going against Donald Trump, the incumbency. People like the idea in the dark part of their liberal souls,
that there's a billionaire who can spend and keep pace with this. Because, you know, the Republicans are going to have a lot of money to spend this time.
This is not like the last time they didn't have a lot of money to spend because Trump wasn't running a normal campaign.
He didn't have, you know, the RNC behind him for a long time.
He didn't raise a lot of money.
He just went on TV all the time.
Well, this time he does have all that.
He has every trapping of the incumbency.
And it's a really big benefit to your campaign.
So here's the interesting thing.
And I'm not saying it's going to work,
but there's a chance it's going to work
and make Michael Bloomberg competitive.
Tom Steyer is worth $1.6 billion.
It's a lot of money.
And he spent a lot of money.
Michael Bloomberg is worth $50 billion.
He's the ninth richest.
person in the world.
And I'm not saying he can buy himself an election.
I don't think that's possible.
But his strategy here, where he's skipping the first four states, he's spending $30 million
on Super Tuesday states.
So he's skipping these first four states.
He's spending zero dollars there.
He doesn't even care.
He's not going to be, he's going to get no votes.
If you get a split sort of ticket in the first three or four states where Biden wins one,
maybe Buttigieg wins one, maybe Sanders wins one.
and you're coming out of there with a situation that provides a little bit of chaos.
I think that's necessary.
But Bloomberg comes into these states, and the interesting part about it is no one,
probably even including Steyer, is going to spend enough money
or really any money in these states against Bloomberg.
So he's going to now have basically two and a half months to spend money
unopposed in all of these states.
He's going to spend, he spent $31 million this first week.
It's the biggest buy of any presidential candidate ever,
including the general election.
Okay?
So he's going to come in here and spend,
let's just say he does this every week until Super Tuesday.
You're telling me he's not going to get a,
he's not going to pick up a lot of votes from these lower tier candidates,
the Cory Bookers, the, you know, the Klobuchar's,
the, you know, Kamala Harris's,
if he can get to high single digits,
low double digits going into that race,
and it's a chaotic field,
he's going to be the only person
that all of these states have seen on TV and ads
because everyone else is fighting for these early states.
So he's going to dominate all of these ads,
and he's the only one with the money to do it in advance.
He's the only one who can sit there
and just funnel money into these states,
big media markets in many cases,
where other candidates wouldn't be able to do that
until they got the momentum of the campaign really going.
Now, Bloomberg is a terrible fit for the Democratic Party.
However, there are a lot of states
where Democrats are looking for a Biden type
where they want someone who's just going to seem sensible
and return things back to normal.
He's not going to be Donald Trump,
but he's not going to be Elizabeth Warren, somebody else.
Right.
And so there is a chance.
I mean, because if Steyer has done it
with $60 million over
two months.
What can
what can Bloomberg do
running unopposed
in all these states
and spending more like
a quarter of a billion dollars
over two months?
It's possible he makes a dent
in this thing and then it comes down to
that Super Tuesday where he might be able
to pick up a couple of states. He's got delegates.
It's chaotic. Who knows?
It's a logical case you're laying out, except it's
Michael Bloomberg. He sucks. A guy who has
all the charisma of a bath
bathroom bullbrush.
Yeah, really?
Well, this is going to be his...
What color brush, I don't think.
White.
Yeah, white and old.
Like, it's a bathroom bullbrush you've had around for 77 years.
Like in a bathroom you don't use, so it kind of just sits there and no one ever changes it.
Gotting moldy and old and you don't like it.
You don't even touch it.
Yeah, Bloomberg's almost at that level.
I'll give you that.
Yes, he is.
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It might be just as simple, though,
as, you know, Joe Biden
just pretty much
number one lead candidate
start to finish.
That is what it is so far.
He had moments
where Warren passed him
a little bit for a while
in some polls,
not even in every poll.
Yeah,
it was never more than half the polls
that she passed.
It was really kind of
a statistical dead heat
for about two weeks.
And now people have gotten
to know her
and I don't think they like her.
They don't.
And I don't think they like her policies
and they understand
that, come on,
we can't spend $15,
$22 trillion on your stuff.
We can't do it.
And I think they understand that that estimate is probably way low.
And it can't be done.
It just can't happen.
Just Medicare for all will cost us more than $50 trillion over 10 years.
No question.
Everyone's like, well, they estimated it at $32 trillion.
It's not going to be $32 trillion.
It never is.
We've explained why on several occasions, you can go back and listen to those shows in depth if you want.
But, I mean, the point here is that we all know these things blow up above.
their budget. There's a lot of really obvious fundamental reasons why, including in this case,
you know, like when you do, when Medicaid or Medicare pays hospitals, pays doctors, they pay a
lower rate than for private insurance. And one of the things that Warren assumes in her plan
is that she will just pay everybody at that rate. We already pay a rate for Medicare. We'll just
continue to pay that rate and just spread it out over the entire health system.
Well, the reason why they're able to pay or accept Medicare and Medicaid payments that are lower,
the reason why doctors do that is because they charge private insurance more, right?
So they even it out.
They basically say, okay, well, this one's coming from the government.
We'll accept less and we'll accept more from over here.
And that'll give us a nice midpoint number.
Well, when you take everyone down to that lower payment number, it's going to shake the health system apart.
and that's the type of thing that will not in reality actually happen.
They're going to,
they're going to have to raise the payments so these places can stay in business,
so the hospitals don't start closing down.
They're not going to allow that to happen.
So they'll just print more money and spend more money,
and instead of $32 trillion, it would be $52 trillion.
And instead of $59 trillion in total cost for all these plans,
it'll be $79 trillion.
Yeah, you know what?
There's a reason doctors make a lot of money.
And the reason is they were in school for 24 years.
years. And then they did a residency and they didn't make any money doing it. And they come out with
massive debt. They have to work long hours. And I know it sounds like a sob story. It is somebody who's
making $50,000 when they're making, you know, $950,000 or a million dollars a year. But really,
they deserve it. They've done a lot of schooling. They've got a skill that not many people have.
They were willing to sacrifice the first section of their lives to do this. And it's hard.
you're on call all the time and you've got crappy hours.
I mean, it's not easy, especially if you're a surgeon and you're on call.
And I've got a really good friend who's on call all the time, like five times a month.
They could call him at any time of the day or night.
And he's picking through somebody's brain in 15 minutes.
You know, it's hard.
And so they're not going to want to take a massive pay cut because we have a universal health care system now.
They're not going to want to do that.
You're going to lose a lot of doctors, a lot of good.
doctors. Especially if you're
58 and you're like, I'm a few
years away from retirement. I've already made a lot
of money. Screw this. Right.
You know, you're gone. Yep.
And now look, a lot of, it's, it's, it's, you can't
just summarize it that way. So many doctors
do this because they, they love it
and because they want to help people. But, but in
addition to that, they do want to keep their doors
open and pay their people. Yes. It's not just about
like becoming a millionaire. And there's nothing wrong
with wanting them to pay themselves either.
There's nothing wrong with that. No problem with it.
But even people who don't mind sacrificing
their own stuff. Well, it's not that simple. Yeah. You know, we've seen what the disaster,
the paperwork can be with these things. I mean, when's the last time a government program came
along that was incredibly efficient that you're just like, wow, you're mesmerized by the way
they're able to handle this. I mean, this is, you know, they launched these electronic records
for doctors and now they all have to do that. They hate it. They hate it. It's a terrible system.
It eats up half their time with their patients. Like, this is not.
not something, these things don't work
when the government tries to do them.
And they're going to try to give this
one size fits all thing for our entire
healthcare system and we're all going to be freaking
driving to somewhere else to get our health care.
If this goes through, if it really happens,
we're going to long for the days
of the crappy
healthcare system that we have now
that's behind Cuba and
Botswana in the
eyes of so many. You're going to see
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It's Pat and Stufer Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
New poll out from CNN now too.
In addition to the Coenipiac poll,
there's a CNN poll out now.
And they're showing pretty much the same thing.
Joe Biden up now, but I double digits.
Wow.
In the primary, 28% for him.
Bernie Sanders in second at 17.
Elizabeth Warren, who 14.
And Pete Buttigieg at 11.
So kind of a three-way close contest, I guess you could say, for second.
Between 11 and 17, three candidates.
But Joe, still holding on 28%.
That's actually down from October by 6.
points too. He was at 34.
So Buttigieg
seems to have picked off some of those Biden
voters. But Sanders
I mean, Sanders has between
14 and 18% of the vote
in almost every poll. He's in that same
area. He's got hardcore support. They love
him. They're going nowhere else.
Unless they absolutely have to. And Sanders
has no legacy
to worry about.
He's 147 years old.
He doesn't care. He's going to
stay in this race as long as he can.
And so he's going to create all sorts of issues for Democrats.
That's going to be fun to watch.
Warren, though, is, I mean, she's cratered here.
I mean, she was at 29, I think, last month.
29, she's 14 now?
14.
So she lost.
28 to 14.
It was 28.
Yeah.
She lost 14 points in both of these polls.
Incredible.
14 points already.
And talk me out of this, Pat.
I want you to talk me out of this because I don't want to believe it.
I don't want to do this.
So talk me out of it.
Let me throw this out of you.
Please.
I sort of feel like you have to give Democratic voters a little credit here because they seem to have reacted to Warren's how I'm going to pay for Medicare for all things.
That's what I was just saying on Packray Unleashed.
Oh, really?
I think they did.
Yeah, I think they did react to that.
Because, I mean, you got to give them credit if they're actually reacting to a policy issue that's out there.
I know.
I don't want to do it, but it is Thanksgiving week.
Yes.
You know, it's the time you're supposed to be nice.
Well, what else is it?
What else is it?
I mean, there's no other reason, right?
I mean, I could absolutely see Elizabeth Warren cratering because she comes out and, you know,
she did the whole public school thing.
She actually was sending her kids to private school and lying about it.
You know, the Native American thing, some really bad speech, like something that is kind
of on the surface you could see with Elizabeth Warren because she's just a really bad candidate.
But the fact that they're like, you know what, we don't think she's,
paying for socialism well enough. If that's really
the reason, I'm impressed. Yeah.
Yes. I got to say, it's kind of, it's
kind of interesting. And it shows why
she wouldn't say how she was paying for it
for so long. She avoided that.
She did.
And it was working. Then, when she
finally says, okay, here it is,
they're like, whoa, no,
no, I don't think so. Yeah. There's no
way you can make that work. And a lot of people
with plenty of reason have
seen Sanders and Warren
essentially competing for the same voter, right?
They have all the same policies, basically. They're both
obviously socialist, even though Warren doesn't
actually say it, but they're both
absolutely socialist. Yeah, and the same
policies. Same policies. I mean, they're doing the
exact same thing. So it's understandable why people
would pair those two together and say
they're fighting for the same votes. However,
what you see when you actually dig down into the polling
is that the support for
Sanders is coming from
basically socialists, right? People
who really want left-wing policies, they're
ideologues. They're a lot of times very young activists.
People who are going after the real socialist utopia. And that might be 17 or 18% of the
country right now. Right. Or at least of the Democratic voters. So, you know, that's what you're
getting there and that's real. But the Warren people didn't generally come from that group.
The Warren people, her rise was generally fueled by white, generally wealthy-leaning, highly
educated Democratic voters.
And
it was, that's
different than the socialist voter.
This is like the, I like Elizabeth Warren
because I think she's smart voter.
Right? She's got a plan for everything.
She's smarter than everybody else.
Now, of course, this is insanity.
But it is the way that they perceive her.
It's also the way they perceive Buttigieg.
And because Buttigieg does, is,
let's not make too big of a deal of this,
but Buttigieg is slightly more moderate than Elizabeth Warren.
He's not, he is not a moderate.
He is not a mainstream Democrat as far as the voters go either.
I mean, this is a guy who's talking about packing the Supreme Court.
This is not some, like, he has a lot of radical proposals,
but he's selling himself as, generally speaking, moderate.
The opposite of what Warren is selling herself as.
But the same voters are going to both of them
because they are the people who are very, you know,
they see themselves as we need someone who's super duper smart
and has a plan for everything.
And they're going back and forth between Warren and Buttigieg.
So even though the policies are different,
the profile of the candidate is something that they like.
And so Buttigieg's rise is kind of coming at the expense of Warren,
not at the expense of Sanders or Biden.
So it's an interesting, it is a weird race
Because you have a bunch of candidates
None of them are good
So it's a bunch of people sort of picking through
You know, kind of like a
You know, it's a secondhand bin
They're like, ah, we've got a DVD
We need to have the kids watch something
Look through that bin. It's like there's a lot of 299 movies
Not a lot of people you've seen
You've heard of before acting in them though
And it's interesting too
Because they've had over the course of this race
Is it 26?
26 different candidates
from which they could choose.
I think they're down to 17 or 18 now.
But at one point, I mean, if you lumped them all together
with the Deval Patrick's and Michael Bloomberg's
who just got into it, it's about 26 candidates.
You can't find one good candidate that you absolutely love in that?
And I think the answer is no.
I don't think they really love.
Yes, right.
And when Seth Molyton was in here,
there was nobody to really love.
And really, they don't love Biden either.
I think they believe he has the best chance to beat Donald Trump.
That's what they think.
Yes.
And it's, it's gotten a little, it's almost sad for Joe because, according to these reports,
Obama is not going to support him, doesn't support him,
and has no intention of ever supporting him.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Joe asked him not to endorse.
Yes, Joe did.
I mean, he explained that.
can we get the uh can we
yeah so dumb yeah a little audio
why you're in president of Obama
endorse you know I asked President Obama not to endorse
no and he doesn't want to
we should
whoever wins his nomination
should win it on their own merits
he asked him he asked him not to
please don't do that I've got to move it on my own merits
and in addition to that luckily
he also didn't want to influence it
I like that because he throws that in.
It's like, well, I asked him not to,
and he said he wasn't going to do it.
He stopped himself, though, before he got that far.
But that sounded like what he was going to say, right?
Why didn't President Obama endorse you?
I asked President Obama not to endorse, and he doesn't want to...
And he doesn't want to...
What?
He should...
Whoever wins his nominations and win on their own merits.
All right.
Well, now, apparently, according to these reports,
Barack Obama has said Biden doesn't have it.
He doesn't think Biden's the right guy for the job.
And Biden practically worships Barack Obama.
That's got to be such a kick to him right where he lives.
I mean, I was explaining earlier that that's like a 12-year-old boy who loves, say, Mike Trout
and looks up to him in every.
every way is the best baseball player in the world.
And he hears that Mike Trout sometimes signs autographs before a game.
So he shows up three hours early and watches him go through the shagging of flies
and stretching process.
And he goes to the batting practice.
And he's been there for two hours and 45 minutes.
The game's about to start.
Mike Trout finally walks by the stands where he is.
And he yells to him, Mike, Mike, can I get an autograph?
Can I get it?
And Trout looks up to him and says, beat it, kid.
you bother me. It's that kind of crushing blow that Joe Biden is experiencing right now from
Barack Obama. I don't know what the deal is between, but it seems like it's always been there too.
Yeah. Where another, I think another good comparison would be what was the name of the dog,
you know, the big dog and the little dog. Spike was the big dog and the little dog was,
I don't remember what his name was, but he followed him everywhere. Butch was the little dog, butch.
and he's up Mike you want to play Mike you want to get him
want me to get your bone Mike you want you
and every once in a while
Mike would just smack
butch across the room and tell him to leave him alone
but he never lost his loyalty
right and I think
you know that is
Joe Biden with Barack Obama
but I'm not sure what the deal is with Obama
maybe he thinks he's senile
maybe maybe he really does believe
that he just can't
he just can't win the race
I was it was it you that was saying on the news and why yesterday that you've heard
that Buttigieg is maybe the pick for Barack Obama well Buttigieg is their only reason
he's in this race at all is because Barack Obama called out Pete Buttigieg as a future
Democratic leader the future of the party very early before anyone knew who he was wow
yeah and he became sort of an underground Democratic Party star
no one thinking he was going to run for president in 2020.
I mean, that was not the thought.
The thought was maybe 2024 or 2028.
Maybe he's a senator and a governor coming soon and eventually he becomes president.
Which would usually be the path.
Right.
Instead, he's like, ah, well, he said something nice about me.
I'll just go for it.
And so far, obviously, it was a good decision.
I mean, he doesn't, he didn't need the mid-point, the mid-point, Buttigieg.
He may not win this race.
He probably won't win this race.
But he is in a position where he can win the race,
which is more than you'd expect out of the mayor of the mayor.
Ben, Indiana.
Way more.
You wouldn't think you can't get there from here.
Yeah.
You can't get to the White House from South Bend, Indiana's town hall.
So that's one of the reasons.
That's been something that has been sticking around for a while.
And Buttigieg fits the profile of Obama, right?
Like is supposedly intellectual, you know, a person who's not a lot of fire, right?
Like not a person who's bombastic or known for catchphrases.
You know, he seems like a consultant to a.
I think most people.
And I've never seen him have any ability to inspire anyone.
You know, I mean, Barack Obama obviously was capable of doing that,
even though, you know, I didn't understand it very much.
Some people did.
So the Buttigieg thing is interesting.
I think, you know, he'd love that to be true.
He'd love it to be someone like that.
Instead, he certainly doesn't want Sanders.
We've heard over and over again that if it's Sanders, he may come out and actually
endorse.
But two things about this.
first of all, there's been little breadcrumbs about this Obama Biden thing for a while in that, like, reports came out that he actually, Biden was not the first choice of Obama for the vice presidential role, but he felt like it was, I mean, in Obama's analysis at the time, well, look, the America's not ready to vote for Barack Obama and some other, you know, exotic person. Like, they need a good old white person to vote for. Now, of course, that's an incredibly racist sense.
sentiment to me. I mean, it's a, that's an idea. And I know, you know, you know, he expressed a lot of them.
Yeah. Well, I mean, he saw people as typical white people that were afraid of black people walking
on down the street next to them. Because that was bred into them. Because it was bred into them.
So he assumed that about the general populace and said, I got to pick a white guy. At least that's
been the reporting. But you wonder, though, if that reporting comes out, if Barack Obama is
supporting Joe Biden. If Barack Obama is all about Biden, does that reporting come out? I mean,
we've seen reporters protect Barack Obama to the point of hiding photos of him with Lewis Farrakhan,
right? Like, this is like, they've gone to incredible extents to protect this guy. Secondarily,
and this is, I think, goes directly to what Joe Biden just said in that clip, which is,
well, he wants it to be, he wants to whoever's going to win the race to do it on their merits.
there is no person in America
that has a better idea of the merits
and the abilities of Joe Biden
to be president in the United States than Barack Obama.
He knows it better than anyone in the world,
including his own family.
This is a guy who saw Joe Biden in these circumstances
day after day for eight years.
He saw it all up close.
And he can't say on the merits,
this guy's the guy?
That is a massive statement.
Obama is.
Obama is telling you he is terrified of this guy becoming president.
Not because he disagrees with him on policy, but there's something there.
There's something he saw behind the scenes that is not allowing him to come out and endorse this guy or at least speak out consistently and defend him.
I think so too.
Biden's defending Obama.
Yeah.
Obama gets attacked by these other candidates and Biden does it over and over and over again.
And he's owning Obama's policies.
Yeah.
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Oh, every time.
Every time.
Every time.
These aren't people that fold when things get tough.
And you know what?
They're always willing to stand up against their own side.
They've got conviction.
They do.
Well, a lot of them have.
have been convicted, I think is what you mean.
Oh, that is what I meant.
But they also have conviction, including Representative Brenda Lawrence, who came out in an interview
the other day and said, you know what?
I don't think it's time to impeach Donald Trump.
It sounds silly.
We're close to an election.
Right.
You know, let's just wait.
Didn't really hear much in the trial.
And so.
So, I mean, let's just move on with our lives, right?
She bravely, however, after saying that publicly, the next day released a statement
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supporter for impeachment in 2017.
Very thorough process of the last
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Courageously. Of course. Courageously, of course.
Courageously, of course.
Courageously.
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We were talking about Obama not supporting Joe Biden,
which to me seems really unusual.
for a president-vice-president relationship
because it's usually understood
that the vice president of the United States,
if he's interested,
will probably be the nominee next time around.
That's usually how it goes.
Now, in 2016, he chose not to run.
What do you've got,
what have had the endorsement in 2016?
From Obama?
Yeah, probably, right?
Maybe.
Because Hillary probably doesn't,
I mean, maybe he would have said the same thing.
Well, Hillary was my secretary of state and, uh,
yeah, I don't know.
Right.
But I think, you know, usually the VP walks into that role if you want to walk into the role.
Yes.
And, you know, look, would Dick Cheney have had the endorsement of George W. Bush in 2008?
Absolutely.
He would have.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Right.
We know, we know Gore had the endorsement of Clinton, even though they didn't really like each other all that much.
Right.
Back in 2000.
Yeah.
That's kind of what happens.
So it's kind of unusual.
Now, you know, you might be thinking, well, okay, Obama's waiting for Michelle to run.
Now, I hope not.
I hope that's not the case.
I know.
You hope that's not the case because she'd have a good chance of winning is at least the...
I mean, that's what Bill O'Reilly said.
It seems like it.
O'Reilly said he thought if she jumped into the race, she'd win easily, is what he said to us.
Not just the Democrat nomination, but also...
Beating Donald Trump.
Beat him in the general election.
Now, I, there's a lot of unknowns in that equation.
Yeah.
How does she perform under that spotlight?
You know, there's so much that can happen.
But I think it's not...
With her popularity, her favor of Bill.
it's not crazy to assume that she was
actually, she was actually kind of toxic on the campaign trail.
They took her off the campaign trail.
It's a long time ago though.
Hammering America 11 years ago.
Since she's done that, she's done a whole other campaign,
plus a bunch of book releases and all sorts of fawning coverage.
Yes.
You can't even say, like, you can't say that her arms aren't beautiful.
Right.
You're not allowed to say that.
Now, we have an actual supermodel living in the White House,
and no one says anything about her.
But you can't say that Michelle Obama's arms aren't beautiful.
Oh, well, they are.
I don't know.
I mean, you'd be an absolute imbecile if you didn't say her arms were fantastic.
They're just functional.
Oh, Stu, I can't believe you're saying these things.
They do what arms are supposed to do, I guess.
I don't know.
They're arms.
And her fashion sense is impeccable.
Is it?
No.
Not the supermodel that lives in the White House.
Who cares about her fashion sense?
Exactly.
Yeah.
It's really, it's bizarre is what it is.
It's really unfair, too.
And unfair.
It's like one of these things where, you're like, well, who's, you know, Jacqueline Kennedy
Onassis, that's a beauty.
Michelle Obama, that's a real beauty.
It's unfair.
Melani's a supermodel.
Like, you can't even, let's not even have this conversation.
It's over, right?
I mean, by far, the most beautiful first lady there's ever been.
Yeah, it's like, who's the best high school basketball player?
Well, let's compare them with LeBron James.
Like, it's not fair.
Yeah.
It's just not fair.
Mm-hmm.
You know, it really isn't.
It's like, you know, the whole thing with like the first lady, you know, the beautiful first lady is like here's this person of somewhat normal background who isn't known for her beauty and she gets into this role and you notice her beauty.
That's not what Melani is.
She is known for her beauty.
Yeah.
She just is going to dominate this conversation every single time.
It's just not fair.
It's not.
It's not fair.
I mean, I...
It's not fair and it's not close.
No.
But yet, Melania gets no attention for it.
Exactly.
No covers of magazines.
Nobody even talks about her fashion sense.
And should she get booed?
Yes.
She could booed.
Terribly booed.
At a, an opioid
prevention, like preventing opioid addiction forum thing.
Right, which is, we have this video.
Can we play this a little bit?
Yeah, let's play this.
It is my question to introduce to you the first lady in the United States of America.
What?
That's like...
What?
A little mixed.
It's mixed, but what has she done to deserve the derision of that crowd?
What is she done?
Except for fight to stop opioid addiction, which is one of her main things.
By the way, her husband donated his entire presidential salary to that cause.
Yeah.
$400,000 to it.
And look, Trump is no libertarian on drugs, right?
Right.
He's pretty restrictive when it comes to this stuff.
Oh, he's been on this opioid bandwagon.
He's helping.
Wasn't his brother who died from alcoholism?
I mean, he's famously never drank.
He's not into that.
That's not what he does.
Yeah.
But he's into the cause of preventing all of that, I think, as a result of what
happened to his brother.
Exactly.
And I think it's one of the things he really feels in his core.
Yeah, I think so too.
Yeah.
So it's a weird thing for her to be booed and she's been treated.
I mean, honestly, like people are talking about all the time about how unfair people are
in the media to Donald Trump.
And all that's true.
There's no more pure example of media bias in the entire presidency to me than the way Melania
Trump is treated.
She is, not only is she has everything you'd want to put her on the cover of every single magazine, right?
Of course.
Every month.
Every month, right?
If a Democrat got in with Melania Trump as first lady, the only person you would know
existed in the world would be Melania Trump.
Yes.
Except it wouldn't be the last name Trump.
Right.
Right.
Like she would get more coverage than Megan Markle.
Oh my God.
Yeah, exactly.
She would be treated like Megan Markle, like a princess.
Yes.
She gets no covers of any magazines.
And she gets treated and she doesn't even step out politically.
No.
You know, she is seemingly does not really agree with everything her husband does.
There's been some slight criticism of him on occasion, at least as far as certain.
policies go, but she's been...
And really, the first lady can't
criticize the president's policies.
I'm not suggesting she should, but what I'm saying is
like, she's not like an Donald Trump
ideal- But there's no reason for the other side to jump on her
for that. It's not like she's coming out every day and being like,
build that wall, build that wall, like she's not that person.
She's very reserved. She's behind the scenes.
It would be an easy way for the media to give positive
coverage, throw a bone to the White House,
positive coverage of Melania and say she's wonderful,
wonderful, wonderful, but we don't like Donald Trump.
But they can't even bring themselves to put a
supermodel on their magazines.
Like that is just like they can't stand him so much.
They do the thing they always complain about.
They take what they view as the sins of the husband and put them on the wife.
And they don't give her any positive coverage really at all.
Right.
That is like pure bias.
There's no reason.
This is one of the most famous people in the country.
And she gets no positive media coverage.
Now, I also don't think she.
seeks it, unlike Michelle Obama, who wants to be on the cover of every magazine. I don't think
that's what Melania wants out of this. I don't. I think she is very reserved and does not seem
to want the spotlight in that way where Michelle Obama does. But the Michelle Obama,
73% approval rating goes away when she becomes a candidate. We need to remember that. Hillary Clinton
had an 80% approval rating when she was in, when she was Secretary of State. It goes away fast.
When you become a candidate. As you open your mouth.
When you become a candidate and all of a sudden you're a partisan political figure, that's a totally different world.
Right.
So I don't know that she would cruise to the nomination or to the presidency, but she'd be a handful.
She'd be a formidable candidate.
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Roger, hi, you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.
Good morning, guys. Happy Thanksgiving.
You too.
I think you guys are kind of missing the bigger picture about why Obama is not going to support Biden.
When Biden was doing all this illegal stuff or improper stuff with Ukraine,
it was all with the impression that Hillary was going to come in afterwards and be the next president.
When Trump came in and won, that threw everything up in the air.
If Biden is the candidate, Trump is going to latch on to this Ukraine thing like a
pit bull with a rag doll.
And it's going to come out and out.
And as Glenn has pointed out on all three of those amazing specials, this is much more
than about Joe Biden.
They do not want to risk exposure of that whole thing.
So they cannot allow Biden to be the candidate.
They just can't.
This is a really interesting point because I think, you know, from Biden's perspective,
it's something he should be playing up.
He should be saying, look, Trump's coming after me.
And he started to do this a little bit over the past few weeks.
saying, hey, look, I was targeted by the president.
He's afraid of me.
He's calling foreign leaders to try to ruin my campaign.
This is something that Biden, from a political perspective, should be playing up.
That doesn't apply to Obama.
Obama sees this as maybe something to be exposed from his legacy.
And there is something to that, I think.
The other part of this that is not as much discussed is the other side of this equation in Ukraine
went through the same type of transition
from someone who was a political power player
and trading back and forth between the political parties
to Zelensky, who is a complete outsider,
arguably more of an outsider in Ukraine
than Trump was in America for winning the presidency.
Trump is hosting reality shows he's a businessman.
This guy was just a comedian, right?
And a comedian wins the White House equivalent.
And so now both sides of the sort of establishment
are unprotected.
Yeah.
There's no one there to run interference anymore.
And I think this is an interesting point.
I mean, maybe Obama doesn't want all this stuff to be exposed
and doesn't want Biden to be the focus of this thing.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Although I think this goes back further than the Ukraine situation.
So I think this is an ongoing deal,
but that could be a big part of it.
Larry, in New York, you're on the Glymbeck program.
Hi.
Thank you.
Even though you guys just mentioned it, I don't know why people aren't taking Michelle Obama more seriously as a candidate in that her husband hasn't endorsed anyone yet.
I don't know if he's waiting for her or not.
This whole field of clowns as candidates, and they are clowns.
Who else is there who has a reasonable chance to beat Donald Trump?
She would bring the black vote together, the female vote together.
I don't know why she doesn't get more consideration from everyone I listen to.
I think only because she's said multiple times, she's going to.
not interested and she's not running.
I mean, a lot of people say that, but we are now past the point, right?
She would be missing, for example, she would not be on the New Hampshire ballot, right?
Like, I think at this point, the only person who can really do this in a way that's plausible
at some level is Bloomberg because of how much money he has.
I mean, look, you know, you're talking about...
You're pretty late to the party.
Yeah, you're missing early state primaries.
Yeah.
Now, I think if you want to talk about a situation, and I think this is realistic,
where Joe Biden wins the nomination.
And Biden goes to the convention, does the speeches, blah, blah, blah.
And then something huge breaks that shows how corrupt he is, or God forbid, he has a health issue or whatever the thing is, and he has to step out of the race.
What do you do?
Well, if he's named a VP, you could go with that person, potentially.
but if it's before that time
you kind of look at the
the white knight sort of idea
someone rides in on a horse to save the day
you don't necessarily want to pick that
out of the existing field because those are people that
the voters already told you they didn't want
right the voters already said
we don't want Elizabeth Warren you can't just put
her in there we already she came in third place
whatever the situation is so likely
you're going to come out of the field in that situation
you know considering almost every
candidate in this race is 194
years old the possibility
of someone dropping out unexpectedly is higher than normal.
And so you could see in that situation,
we need someone who understands how to campaign,
has done it before,
who are voters like,
they're all going to be excited about,
what about Michelle Obama?
Will she just step in and take the nomination?
And it'll be an open convention.
All the delegates would vote for her.
She'd get the nomination, I think, without a question,
especially in that scenario,
in an emergency scenario.
And then you have someone riding in
with a 70% approval rating
that might be able to take this thing.
There's a scenario there where I think she can win.
At this point, I mean, I gave you the positive view of Bloomberg earlier on the program
where there's a plausible idea because of the amount of money he can spend
that he can be competitive in those Super Tuesday states and then who knows what happens.
It's still a real long shot.
I mean, you don't want to try to win a campaign like this.
I think for the most part they're stuck with who they've got, and they've got nobody they love.
No.
They don't have anybody to love.
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Bill O'Reilly.com had a pretty interesting interview with somebody called, was it Donald Trump?
Donald Trump?
Yeah, I guess selected president of the United States.
after he manipulated the Russian choice
for president.
Sorry, we're doing our MSNBC impression here.
So Trump was on with O'Reilly on Bill O'Reilly.com.
And tell me if people are reading into this too much.
Is he basically throwing Rudy under the bus here, Giuliani?
Because I mean, I do kind of feel like, end of the day,
there's a good chance this is where this ends.
The one, like, we have lots of people on record saying that this was an edict, right?
That there was a quid pro quo for varying circumstances and varying ways they learned about this.
And we can go over all that and we have.
But everybody basically seems to say they got word of this from Rudy Giuliani.
Yeah.
Not from Trump, but from Rudy Giuliani.
Yes.
And here's Trump kind of putting a little, it seems to be a little bit of a dividing wall between himself and Giuliani.
This is Trump with Bill O'Reilly yesterday.
What was Giuliani doing in Ukraine on your behalf?
Well, you have to ask that to Rudy, but Rudy, I don't even know.
I know he was going to go to Ukraine, and I think he canceled a trip.
Rudy Giuliani, he's your personal lawyer.
Giuliani's your personal lawyer.
So you didn't direct him to go to Ukraine to do anything or put any heat on him?
No, I didn't direct him, but he is a warrior.
Rudy's a warrior.
Rudy went, he possibly so, but you have to understand, Rudy has other people that he represented.
Oh, my.
I mean, oh, my.
He just said he had nothing to do with Rudy Giuliani going to Ukraine.
So that's, I mean, it's a pretty strong separation.
Well, now, remember, in the past, Giuliani has said he was there at the direction of Trump,
which I don't remember Trump disagreeing with, but I don't remember him ever confirming it either.
So is this going to be kind of the defense?
Like, look, and as we've said a million times,
I don't think this is impeachable.
It's not my view that this is an impeachable situation.
That being said, the administration's job here, right,
is to politically to protect the president at all costs.
Now that you could say,
a lot of people would say, well, that's not the right thing to do.
But, I mean, that's what the political job to do is.
I mean, do you believe that he didn't direct Rudy Giuliani to go to Ukraine?
and hard to believe.
It's impossible to believe.
Again, I'm going under the...
Of course he sent Rudy to Ukraine.
I'm going under the assumption here.
I view this entire thing as
Donald Trump did want a quid pro quo
with this money.
There's a report in the New York Times today
that they're saying that Trump,
they did, when they released the funds to Ukraine,
it was after they had learned about the whistleblower report.
Yes.
So, yes, they've been saying that for a while.
well, this was, I guess, an additional confirmation then because it broke today in the Times.
And look, I don't, people keep saying, well, I don't agree with that and that didn't happen.
I don't care if it happened.
Like, to me, there is a question as to whether it was for the good of the country or it was just his own political benefit.
If it was his own political benefit, then he should be impeached.
I don't think that's what it was, though.
I think there was more to it than that.
I think it was for both.
And I don't know why they won't say that.
I don't know why they want.
Frankly, I think it was for both.
I think he liked the idea that it was by.
that it was Biden.
You can do a quid pro quo all day long if it's in the good of the country.
Right.
Anytime you want, we don't have to give them any aid, let alone $400 million.
Exactly.
So we all, and that's why I'm operating, I don't care about this back and forth because
I don't see it as one of these things that is a problem if it's done for the good of the country.
We all know that it happens all the time.
Yes.
So when you look at this, though, I mean, you may not have, admitted to it.
Exactly.
You may not have legally.
proof that Donald Trump is on paper or on a recording saying, Rudy, you got to do this.
We're going to hold back the aid.
But I think if you look at the breadth of evidence, it's likely that this did occur, or at least
the impression was strongly given because everyone, even people who opposed the quid pro quo,
for some reason, was still doing it.
Like, you know, Sondland is like opposed to it.
He's still going to Ukraine and telling them, yeah, it's a quid pro quo.
Well, why would he do that?
if he doesn't I mean he believes that that's the directive
whether it is or not right
but I don't care if it's the directive if it's for the good of the country
and I think like that's the line they need to go to
here though you can see a defense developing of look
Rudy's just a renegade he's out there doing all sorts of crazy crap
I have no idea what it is that it's not the it's not the day
thing you want to hear if you're Rudy Giuliani I'll say that
it's not your favorite moment of this entire escapade
it's not the thing I wanted to hear
as Pat Gray.
No, no.
I don't get it.
I don't think that can, you know, that's not going to hold up.
That just can't hold up.
It's too easy to disprove.
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Americans
just so stingy
so pathetic
Like this, you know
This billionaire Jeff Bezos
100 million dollars
What's he ever done?
I don't know
I don't know seriously
I mean
He shouldn't have the money he does
Shouldn't have it
Billionaires shouldn't exist
They shouldn't exist
They're evil
You know what
You get a lot of good outcomes
When a government comes together
And says a certain group of people
shouldn't exist
ends well. Always. In every
case, right? In every case. Can you think
of any case where that hasn't
You're really tested me here? I mean, I'm sure there may be one.
But I mean, usually when a government
comes together and say, you know what, this group
of people should not, we should wipe them off the planet.
That usually ends well. It does.
And I think it will with billionaires too.
Oh, I think so. When you start dragging them out of their offices
and beating them to death in the street, won't that be great?
Oh, we'll all be there here.
And all billionaires.
that. So Bezos gave $100 million to charity and that's selfish, I guess, because he has more money than that.
And by the way, he's donated more money than that to charity. It just happens to be this particular donation to homelessness was $100 million.
The response from people is so incredible. Like this guy, a whopping 0.09% of his net worth. Thanks so much, Jeff.
Unbelievable.
How much did you give?
Yeah.
How generous of him to donate less than what he makes in an hour,
which I don't know that he makes a...
That would be a really good hour.
That's a good hour.
Billionaires are evil.
He could end homelessness if he wanted to.
No, he couldn't.
Homelessness involves a lot of mental illness and, you know...
You can't buy people out of their mental illness?
No.
What if you spend a lot, though?
You still can't.
Really?
Yeah.
You could spend $100 trillion.
There'd still be homeless people.
Really?
200 trillion.
I don't know where you get that from.
There's certainly never been any historic books that have discussed the fact that there will always be poor people.
Something called the Bibli.
I think it's related to Michael.
Yeah.
There's a Bibli out there that says there will always be the poor among us.
Yeah.
Also, we've kind of found that out our own selves with President Johnson's great
society and $23 trillion spent in the war on poverty?
And still, is there homelessness?
Yeah.
Is there poverty?
Yeah, exactly the same amount there was percentage-wise in 1965.
Which is an embarrassing failure.
It is.
And we should point this out, and it's not said enough.
When you come down and you're making the Mount Rushmore of the worst presidents in U.S. history,
Lyndon Johnson needs to be carved into the mountain.
He's one of the four for sure.
He never gets the credibility he deserves as one of the crappiest presidents.
I'm doing it right now.
He's the first one we're carving right now.
Yes.
You also got to carve a sculpture of FDR.
Woodrow Wilson.
Woodrow Wilson and Barack Obama.
There's your four, I think.
You think?
I think so.
FDR. Would you put FD?
I mean, FDR, I guess, because you have the war stuff.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, all the government programs that kept us in the Great Depression for 12 years rather than pulling out in a year or two like everybody else did.
I'm not arguing he's a good president.
But I mean, I'm saying, is he on the four?
Because I think you got to have Lyndon Johnson on there.
Here's the guy who's put all the debt problems on.
What would you put instead of FDR?
Because obviously Woodrow Wilson, do you also argue with Barack Obama?
Got to have Woodrow Wilson on there.
Obama, yeah, I mean, it feels like you need a contemporary, you know?
I mean, he, I guess I put him, I'm trying to think, I mean, what about Andrew Jackson?
Maybe.
Probably anything needs to be talked about.
And treatment of the Native Americans, Trail of Tears, all of that.
Yeah, there's some, I mean, a good case could be made for Andrew Jackson.
I mean, Taft couldn't even fit in a bathtub.
Do you put him on there?
Because he was a fat tub of goo?
Yeah, I mean, he was overweight.
Right.
And so I think that could be.
could be something.
I don't know.
If you put Taft up there, you'd need another mountain.
Like, you'd have to have double the mountain space.
It'd be like putting Jeffie up there.
You couldn't do that.
You can't do that.
We have a look back at the life of William Howard Taft.
All right, just roll it, I guess.
The Glenn Beck Program presents retrospective.
On today's episode, William Howard Taft.
born in Cincinnati, Ohio in 1857,
grew up to become America's 27th president.
He died in 1930.
He was overweight.
This has been retrospective on the Glenn Beck program.
Limited fact-finding.
Yeah, that was the one notable thing about it.
I guess he was overweight.
It's really the only thing anyone ever says about TAP.
It is.
I have no idea what his policies were.
I'm sure they were, you know, wonderful for the time.
Sure.
But I do know he was overweight.
Yeah.
We do know that.
I mean, if you're redoing the actual Mount Rushmore, I mean, I think we're both putting Coolidge up there, right?
For sure.
Coolidge is definitely going up.
Absolutely.
I mean, Reagan's going up.
Coolidge, Reagan.
For me, I've got to have George Washington out there.
Got to have Washington.
And maybe Jefferson.
I love Thomas Jefferson.
But Coolidge, Reg.
Oh, Lincoln.
You've got a link in there.
Yeah, he can't.
That's hard.
We've had a lot of good presidents, actually.
Yeah, we have.
The really terrible ones, we've had a decent amount of.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, because, like, if you want to talk about, like, most ineffective presidents, right?
Like, you could put Jimmy Carter on that list easily.
Oh, yeah.
But, like, you don't think of him as, like, a real upending our entire system.
No.
Because he didn't.
He was just really bad at his job.
Yeah.
Everything he did sucked.
Yeah.
But it wasn't like Wilson who, I mean, you know, the Wilson part.
policies, we'd look back at now and be like, wow, those are really conservative.
But he changed the whole fabric of the country.
Yeah.
Right?
A lot of, that was one of those things where, you know, he took a country that was going down
one path and jammed the whole country in reverse and went down another path,
where, like, someone like Johnson just accelerated us down that path so fast.
And people, because, you know, look, it came after the Kennedy thing.
There was a feeling of, he kind of just overlooked everything.
at that point, I think.
And the fact that, you know, Johnson is responsible for, you know,
a massive amount of our problems in this country when it comes to debt.
Massive.
It's overlooked.
And not to mention, the guy was an incredible racist and a jerk to almost everybody
around him.
And people say, well, he signed the bill.
He signed the civil rights bill.
Yeah, after opposing it for 20 years.
Yeah, he did finally because he knew he had to by then.
He had to.
And the stuff he said to the people around him, including constantly to African Americans.
I mean, the guy is a good guy.
Absolute racist.
Yeah.
You have to put him in the conversation there for worst president of all time.
He also enmeshed us much more deeply in Vietnam, which was a massive, to me, mistake.
You know, it'd be nice if we could learn from some of those mistakes now and stop getting involved in everybody else's problems.
That's a good idea.
Yeah.
It's a good idea.
That is, it's fascinating to you that, like, you know, the Republicans are the war mongers.
Well, this is Nixon that got us out of there, right?
Yeah.
Right.
It is, it is the guy who's doing diplomacy with China.
Like, you know, it is a weird, the way this stuff, you know, the narratives change in such strange ways with this stuff.
Mm-hmm.
Where Republicans who fought for the only people who cared about civil rights for 100 years.
the whole time.
Yeah, the whole time.
And, you know, Democrats are the ones, I mean, we go back with this.
I mean, you know, Desoosa said this in his book.
And I have no reason to, I have not found evidence to the contrary that every single member of the KKK was a Democrat.
All of them.
That's what, it was a Democrat organization.
It was kind of the militant wing of the Democrat Party, in fact, when, you know, in the, in the, in the,
in the early days of the clan.
Does he claim that there was never a Republican?
I mean, I don't know if he says it about like, I mean, because there's probably like
19 clan members today.
I don't know what they are.
Like what is David Duke?
I mean, David Duke is run as of both a Democrat and a Republican, right?
I think he has.
Over the years.
Yeah.
You know, certainly it's possible now.
But I believe that was his statement.
I remember him saying it on the air.
I was like, really, is that true?
And he went back and had a decent amount of backing on it.
I haven't gone through every member list myself,
but that's an incredible thing.
Fact, if that's absolutely true.
That's amazing.
Wow.
And we know all this and somehow it gets twisted.
Yeah.
Into Republicans are the racist.
They're the ones that hate minorities.
No?
Yeah.
And it's interesting to see this has been one thing
that has been fascinating about the Trump presidency
and more recent parts specifically,
you know, since like the Kanye West thing has gone.
on on. There's a poll that came out from Rasmussen, who, you know, look, it gives, has a lot of
favorable polls for the president, but says that something like 34% of African Americans are now
supporting Donald Trump. Now, if that number were to be true, we could just, we could just cancel
the election, because Trump will definitely win if that number's true. Now, I don't, I will say,
I don't believe the number's that high, but I do believe it's increased. And, you know, this,
there is an effect, we all know. There's a reason why companies pay billion.
of dollars every year to hire celebrities to talk about their products.
Because it moves people.
It makes people consider things they might not have considered before.
If you see a new, like, you know, this happens all the time with, you look at Us Weekly.
I don't even know who exists anymore, but that magazine Us Weekly, and certainly a million
different TMZ type websites, they put the pictures of like, here's random celebrity walking
down the street.
You're like, why would anyone care?
what this person looks like walking down the street as they're shopping.
Well, I mean, I watched my wife read those stories and look at those pictures,
and she looks at every little detail.
What bag are they carrying?
What shoes are they wearing?
What sunglasses do they have on?
And a lot of the times that stuff's just planted, right?
Like they're coming out of a specific store.
There's some deal that they have going on.
Celebrities do move people and purchases are not the only category for that.
And so when you,
you have a guy like Kanye West who's making the arguments that are completely true.
I don't, like, I have no, you know, I'm not a Kanye West guy.
You know, he's, I'm not a target demo.
But he is saying things that conservatives and, you know, dozens or hundreds of
conservative black individuals have called us over the years to say these things.
I'm sick of just being told this is how I vote because of the color of my
I am an individual here.
And Kanye just bringing that argument to the table and convincing people who are
as racist.
As racist.
And at least opening the minds of people who don't follow politics every day.
You know, there's a lot of people who are African American and it's like, I believe
the Democrats have the right vision for me for whatever reason.
Even though I don't agree with it.
But there's a lot of people just like there are in every group who have no connection to
politics and issues on the daily basis.
they watch the Kardashians.
Well, now the Kardashians are hanging
them with Donald Trump.
And the other guy in the Kardashians
is hanging out with Donald Trump.
And he's saying, you know what?
Maybe you guys should consider
at least looking at a different option.
We've tried all this crap for 100 years.
And it's not working out all that well for us.
And now we have the lowest unemployment
we've ever seen for African Americans.
Why don't we, I don't know?
Entertain this a little bit.
So I do think there is a bump there
that's real.
And when that can be challenged,
when it can be the counterculture way,
you know,
when the cool thing to do is to question,
you know,
the thing everyone else is doing.
That's what it used to be, right?
Like when you're growing up,
you see what your parents did.
You're like, I don't want to do that.
I want to do this.
You know, I want to go the other way.
Everyone's saying I should do this.
I want to do that.
And that, for whatever reason,
has not crossed over in,
with the Democrats and younger voters
and black voters and to some level of Hispanic voters.
if that can be overturned
and people can say
just giving a chance,
you don't have to agree,
but give a chance to the idea
that maybe freedom's the best way for you to go.
Maybe you have in your own money
is the best way for you to go.
Maybe not going to the government
for so many things is a better approach.
If that can get out there,
there's no reason that can't connect
with every group.
It's very human.
You know, not wanting someone in your way,
having an opportunity to control your own destiny
is very human.
And I think any group would like that.
But it's just, it's got such a crappy brand name on it right now.
Yeah.
It's hard to convince others.
But I mean, someone like Kanye West can make a dent with that audience, I think.
Especially with great music like this.
Poopi de scoop.
Scoop de scoop de poop.
Whoop de scoop de poop.
Poop de scoop de poop.
I mean, how do you argue with that?
You can't.
It's a fantastic point.
Brilliant.
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New UN report is forecasting potentially catastrophic warming.
Stu. Oh, my gosh.
I don't know when you're going to break down and admit this is happening.
It's on. It's on like Donkey Kong.
Catastrophic 3.4 to 3.9 degrees Celsius.
Oh, my goodness.
By 2100.
What do you have to say to that?
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah.
That's what I have to say about it.
Because I don't know how much that is.
There's no way to tell.
metric measurement.
It could be 600 degrees.
Could be one degree.
I don't know.
There's no way to tell.
I wish there were.
You could just easily convert it.
It is amazing, though, because their new thing is, now, look, we have to take even more drastic measures.
Yes.
Up to, you know, the whole Paris Accord was nothing now.
The Paris Agreement was, is a joke.
We've got to go way further than that.
And it's like, how can we keep falling for this nonsense?
sense. If the plan they were just recommending is not even close to adequate now,
why would we believe them on their next plan?
And not even close to being abided by either by anybody. Nobody's doing it.
Nobody's abiding by it. China's building new coal plants all the time.
It's just, it's a joke. It's a joke. And, you know, they keep going down this same road.
I don't know that anyone, I don't know that anyone is reacting to it anymore.
I mean, I think people at this point are just throwing their hands up just like,
guys, leave me alone.
Oh, I hope so.
I hope you're right.
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All I can say is I didn't land on Plymouth Rock.
Plymouth Rock landed on me.
That's all I can say.
Okay.
In this country.
That's what happened.
Really?
Yeah.
Plymouth Rock landed on me.
You, uh, would you like to explain any further?
No.
It doesn't make sense per se.
It really doesn't.
No.
It is something that people say.
It is something people say, especially irritable immigrants who are illegally in this country.
And that's sometimes how they can justify their illegal entry into our country.
Different perspectives from around the world, Pat.
I was reading this article about, from the root about Pete Buttigieg that kind of made a big splash.
about how he was calling Buttigieg a liar because he was like targeting black people and how they didn't care about education or something and like you read the quote for Buttigieg and like it's clear what he's saying like it's basically saying like you know like we need to make sure that you know it's an important thing for everybody and it affects every like it's very like a very vanilla boring statement but it turns into this big thing and Buttigieg is calling him and apologizing and it's like oh I can't even take it I can't take it.
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Hope you have a really happy Thanksgiving
and a great Thanksgiving weekend.
Coming up, a lot of football to enjoy.
Although I don't really know what the games are this weekend.
You probably know who the Eagles are playing, right?
Well, of course, the very difficult Miami Dolphins are on the schedule.
That's a tough one.
They won two games this year.
Eagles lose this one.
It's going to be...
Oh, that's over.
It's a dark time.
But, no, of course,
we have the traditional games tomorrow
with Dallas and Detroit playing.
Dallas playing the bills.
Yeah, which is going to be...
That's a really good game.
More on trivia picks Dallas.
Oh, really?
Yes.
And that's on your podcast right now.
That's on the podcast.
And that after this program ends,
you can, of course, go listen to More on Trivia
with Pat Gray unleashed.
That happens every Friday normally,
but of course, this week.
It was a very special Wednesday.
edition.
And then
Detroit is playing as well
and then I can't remember
what the Nike game is.
It's weird because Detroit and Dallas
always play no matter if they're good or bad
or anybody cares.
I guess they will always care about Dallas
because they seem to have a national brand.
But Detroit,
when was the last time they were relevant?
It's been a while.
And yet they still get the Thanksgiving game.
It's tradition.
It's kind of weird.
It would be weird to not watch a Lions game.
on Thanksgiving.
I'd be okay with not watching
I'm used to it.
There's a lot of years
where they would go two and 14
but they'd play like one good game
on Thanksgiving.
And they just inexplicably
be competitive that one week.
I don't know how that happens.
So yeah, that's part of the tradition
of Thanksgiving.
You're going to stuff your face
with all sorts of food.
And the sides of the star here
and you can come fight me about this
if you want.
But the bottom line is,
the sides of the star
because you have
No.
Protein loaf or whatever it is for dinner.
I'm not saying I have a traditional Thanksgiving anymore.
I'll grant you this.
But even back in the day, turkey was never the good part of that meal.
No, turkey's okay.
It's a plate filler.
It's just okay.
It's a plate filler.
Yeah.
The stars are that you got the mashed potatoes going on.
You got the stuffing going on.
The rolls.
The gravy.
The gravy.
Yeah.
Dipping the rolls in the gravy once the roll has been adequately buttered up.
Do you have one weird,
food that you add to this? Because I now, every single Thanksgiving have mac and cheese in some form.
Oh, do you? It's part of it. It's now part of the traditional Thanksgiving dinner. I like that.
Mac and cheese. And it should be the part of every dinner, I would argue. It's probably the star of the dinner, isn't it?
It is. It's never a bad decision. That's awesome. Except when you have a heart attack after doing it for three or four days in a row.
Right. But other than that, it's never a bad decision to have mac and cheese. It's just so freaking good.
It is. And yes, that is now part of my Thanksgiving every year.
year. Gotta have mac and cheese.
So you guys are doing a restaurant
thing this year, right? So there's no leftovers.
Yeah, it's a little bit... That's kind of...
It's unfortunate. The downside of it?
Yeah, my uncle, who's the greatest guy in the world. He's
a former police officer. But he's been
in the hospital for, gosh,
coming up on six months now.
From... Really? Yeah. He's fighting it hard and he's been
moving around a bunch of times and we're real praying for him
to be back by Christmas is the hope.
but he
he and his
his wife my aunt
that's where we've hosted Thanksgiving
for like the last thousand years like everyone
I can remember is always there
Are they here or is that?
Yeah they moved down here a few years ago
We used to go back up to New York
where they lived for a very long time
and we always there
My grandparents were right next door
So that was like the traditional place
where we had it so this year it's kind of like
well you know we're not going to kind of do that this year
because of unfortunate circumstances
but I'll just go to a nice restaurant.
I'm hoping it's going to be very Christmas story-esque
where there's going to have a goose out on the table
and they're just going to decapitate it in front of all my children.
That's what I assume happens at restaurants on Thanksgiving.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it does.
But no cleanup.
I mean, that's kind of nice.
That is nice.
No cleanup.
No leftovers, but no cleanup.
Though I could just order too much food.
Yes.
And just bring it home.
Yeah, you could.
There's nothing stopping me.
That's the thing about being an adult.
You don't realize that.
You didn't do what you want.
Sometimes my kids will ask me.
for, you know, like a, you know, like a snack or something.
And I think to myself, I can just have a snack whenever I want.
No one can say, no one can't ask anybody.
And if you look at me, you say he does have snacks whenever he wants.
Yeah.
And I will grant you, it doesn't always have good outcomes.
But it is a nice thing to realize about your life.
It is.
There is that moment where you're like, you know what, I can just eat that thing.
Yeah.
A piece of candy, I could just eat it.
You know what?
You know what?
One thing I always have in my house, sugary cereals.
Because I never had sugary cereals when I was a kid.
So now there's always like some crazy, you know, Captain Crunch variety.
in my in my
little pantry thing there.
It's always in there.
I love Captain Grinch.
Although it tears up the roof of your mouth,
I still love it.
It brutalizes your mouth.
I still love it.
And look, the guy,
I don't know what he's good at.
I mean, he may be a great military captain,
but he is, you know,
he's terrible at making cereal.
He made that entire line of cereals
that was just berries.
Yeah, and it still says,
oops, all berries 30 years later.
It's like just, okay, we got it.
What kind of scam is that?
You had a problem.
Right.
Okay.
Fix it.
Just fix it.
Right.
You know, this is not hard.
You've had plenty of time to fix the oops in the oops all berries.
Right. Put some other kinds of cereal in there that we're supposed to be there.
I don't know what you were intended to do.
You're going for.
Or just say, you know what?
Look, it was oops all berries.
We realize people like it.
So now it's just all berries.
Thank you.
Yes.
Cross out the oops.
We're not doing this by mistake anymore.
Okay.
we know what we're doing now.
Exactly.
Because I'm starting to wonder about your other cereals now if you can't get this one right after 30 years.
Yeah.
I mean, oops, a little poison.
Is that your next cereal?
I'm concerned.
When is the captain drunk as he's making these cereals?
He must be. He's got to be.
Drunker on opioids.
I don't know.
It's possible.
Yeah.
It's possible.
I don't want to think that way, but I think it might be true.
I think so too.
And these things happen, by the way.
You know, like the fiery,
Cheetos, you know, the Flaming Hot Cheetos, were kind of a mistake.
They were?
Yeah, they had a, it was a, there's actually a movie coming out about this.
They're actually making a feature, like a legit feature release movie about the story of Flamed and Hot Cheetos.
Really?
Yeah, because I'm going to butcher it a little bit, but the basic story was they had a bunch of like non-chito dusted Cheetos for some reason, an excess.
I don't remember the reason why.
And so a guy who worked at the plant, who was like a mid-level guy,
he decided to take home the non-flavored Cheetos
and dusted him with some fiery sauce that I guess,
because he came from, like, I want to say,
might have been a Cuban background or something,
where he had these spices that they used on other foods,
and he decided to kind of dump them on the Cheetos,
and was like, these are fantastic, brought him in,
people liked him.
Cheetos just started making them,
and now they're like one of their most popular varieties.
And now he, like, runs the company or something like that.
That's my, that's my vision of the story.
Probably the truth is something very different,
but that's how I understand that story.
It is something like that.
It's good story though.
Yeah, it's kind of cool, right?
I like that.
You know, and he's like, he was turned into a real big wig at the company.
I mean, he was, you know, running a giant chunk of it in some way,
which is great.
And I got to say, like, I don't mind a spicy chito.
I just want them to be more cheesy.
The Flamin Hot Cheeto does not seem to have any cheese dust on it.
It just seems to be.
spicy dust. And that's not okay.
No, that is. Not in my mind.
No, you need cheese. You got to have cheese.
Got to have the cheese.
So I don't know. I mean, I'd be between the drunk cap'n.
Mm-hmm. With the oops, salt berries for 30 years or whatever it's been.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, you look at a company like Bluebell here in Texas.
Oops, we produced Listeria in our ice cream.
Oops, Listeria.
See, that would have been a much better marketing thing.
You just put it out with an oops. Oops. Listeria.
Listeria.
Well, they corrected it, right?
It took about a couple of years or maybe a year,
but they finally corrected it,
and then they stopped doing the Listeria.
Yeah.
These companies just don't,
I mean,
they should just start doing that.
Like with a,
I mean, Jack in the box had those issues back in the day.
Oops.
Salmonella.
Right.
Oops, a dash of salmonella.
What are you going to do?
Yes.
You know?
With Tylenol.
Oops.
A little cyanide.
It happens.
You know?
You correct it.
I don't know if that's legal, but my assumption is if you put out a product and you say,
oops, and say the poison that's in it, you're cool.
I think you are.
I can't.
You can't get in trouble for that, right?
No, you can't.
Because you told them going in.
Oops, we made a mistake here.
There's poison in this food.
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You're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu.
Hey, guys. Happy Thanksgiving.
You too.
First, I want to say, Stu, I
really appreciate your points of view.
It's very rare that
somebody gets me to think about things
in a different perspective.
And so I just want to say, I really appreciate it.
You're the greatest American in this country.
You should know that.
Yeah, well, and I also know that you're like, you know, a Canadian sports hero, right?
Yeah, Canadian sports celebrity, of course, yes.
Yeah, celebrity, yeah, okay.
Okay, so, but anyway, I'm calling because I have a very important point.
It might seem silly at first, but it's very valid, and I'm going to back it up.
We will not see a president Buttigieg.
And here's why.
His name.
That's it.
His name.
That's some expert analysis right there.
If you look at the history of all of our presidents, none of them have, you know, crazy, outlandish, weird names.
The only one that is the exception is Obama.
And he has one big thing going for him.
That was he was black.
And I can say that because I'm black.
So I think that you will not see.
He might win the nomination, but he's not going to be president because nobody is going to want to say President Buttigieg over and over and over again.
I mean, just think about it.
We've had Garfields.
We've had Jackson, Johnsons, Andrews.
They're all normal names.
You know, that's just how you knew instantly that John Hickenlooper was not going to win the nomination.
That was not going to happen because it can't happen.
That's an interesting point.
I remember someone very early on saying, and it was sort of a, I would say, a criticism of the United States and voters in general.
And they said, look, this country is basically way too racist to elect a guy whose last name is one letter away from Osama and his middle name is Hussein.
Like this country is way too racist to vote that guy into office.
And we saw how that turned out.
And they were completely wrong on that.
Yeah.
You're right.
The Buttigieg thing is, it takes a while for people to figure out how to say it.
It takes a while to kind of get it to roll off the tongue a little bit.
I don't know if that prevents it, but it is, you're right, there's not a lot of examples to the contrary.
But, yeah, personally, I like calling him booty gig.
I think that sounds better.
It's more fun.
It's more fun.
All right.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate the phone call.
Marco.
In Ohio, you're on the Blaze, or the Glenn Beck program.
On the Blaze.
Hey, guys, thanks for having me on.
Make sure you say hi to Glenn for me when he comes back.
We'll do.
Hey, I have, oh, I also love Captain Crunch, but hate the rough roof of the mouth too.
Right.
It destroys it.
I have top five real quick.
I'll go over of my theories.
Trump and Bloomberg and maybe Bezos, I think they're so independent.
You know, like Trump's really not a Republican as much as he is an independent,
which has caused the big stirrup.
And I think that the inside deep state does not want an independent.
They want someone they can control.
Then there's Obama's distancing himself away from Biden because of the corruption connection.
Also, he probably started noticing the absent-mindedness and the quid pro-quose stuff he doesn't want to be associated with.
But Michelle, I don't think she has the personality to handle the.
the pressure, I think that she's exposed herself in the past of being very strong voiced.
And I think she'd have a very short temper.
And I think it would start to show if she started running and being in the public eye.
Warren, her support, supporters never listened to the conservatives for four or three years in a row.
Nothing is free, we kept telling them.
Now she states how much this is going to cost.
And all of a sudden, the light bulb goes on with her supporters and they start backing off.
like is known as the 14% drop.
Impeachment is nothing more than Democrats' way
of using taxpayers' money for free smear campaign.
They're using our money just to smear him to try to gain voters.
DNC's in debt.
They have no money.
So I think this is just a way of using government money
to try to affect the election.
It's interesting quickly before you go off of that one.
it's unclear what the effect of this is.
It really could go either way.
I think there's a strong argument to be made that the branding of impeachment is a real negative for the president politically.
Even if he gets the Senate does not remove him, which I'm sure they will not.
But still, they're going to be able to say he was impeached over and over again.
And there's never been a president in American history who's tried to go through an election with the branding of impeachment on them.
That's never happened in American history.
So we don't know where that goes.
On the other side, there's a good
chance, there's a good argument to say
Trump goes through this, gets impeached
in what looks like an absolutely rushed
partisan process, and comes out the other
side and says, I survived this thing,
I'm stronger than ever, and the American
people say, you know what, they're not even serious
on the other side. This guy is
fought through every one of their attacks,
and we're going to reward him for it.
Like, we, it really, it could go
either way here. And the Democrats
are really rolling the dice with us.
They really are. What's your last, last quick point?
Well, if it goes that far, he's going to expose all the corruption.
It's just going to get more exposure of that.
The last thought was, I think, Rudy was told by Trump to go find the corruption, all the connections.
And I think that he's working independently, my assumption, that he's following the trail.
And it took him to places like Ukraine.
So he's on his own.
He's pursuing this.
you know that's a question but I think by saying go where your nose leads you is also saying
I support you yeah you want to go to Ukraine Ukraine go ahead and go to Ukraine so yeah yeah I say he's
half independent and half Trump's saying I got your back go where you got to go appreciate it
thanks a lot Marco I hope that's right otherwise I could lead to some trouble life here with what he
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Josh in Pennsylvania.
Hi, you're on the Glenn Beck program.
Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call.
I have two points.
The first one, as far as impeaching Trump and foreign diplomacy,
isn't that what a quid pro quo is?
We give you money to influence, you know,
to expand American influence in return.
You know, it's, I don't know what else it could be, you know, whenever you give money to a foreign country, you ask them to do something, isn't that?
Yes.
You know, what foreign diplomacy is?
Yes, it just can't be for political gain. That's all.
And I don't, I don't think this was.
I think it was in the national interest.
And I, but I don't know why they're not playing that hand.
They don't seem to be.
But they certainly could and I think should because I really believe it's in the national interest to root out any corruption that was coming, especially that was coming.
coming from our side. Let us know what happened here. If you guys think this was really corrupt,
we'd appreciate your help on that because we want to root it out. That's not too much to ask.
But if he's impeached over it, I think it's going to be because he hasn't said this was in
the national interest. This was not political. This was national interest. Why won't they say that?
And I don't know. My big question is, you know, Peter Schweitzer and Greg Jarrett and Glenn and
And even Sean Hannity, they've made such a strong case that they're going after the president with literally no evidence.
And, you know, the evidence is piling up on the inverse where the Democrats have gone out after him illegally.
You know, how are they going to be held accountable?
I mean, it's almost like we know all of this stuff has happened.
We know they're investigating him.
They're changing the FISA applications.
When or how are these guys going to be held accountable for going after the president with literally nothing?
It's a good question.
Well, I would say in November, right?
November of 2020 is when they need to be held responsible.
Just like if you think Trump did something bad here,
that's when he should be held responsible.
We should have,
I want to vote on impeachment.
You should have a vote on impeachment.
Everyone should.
The impeachment is,
hey, he's going to be removed in a year
if you think he's doing a crappy job.
And if, look, I know there's just millions of voters out there
that vote are single issue Ukraine corruption voters.
So if that's you,
I can understand where you're going on this thing.
But, I mean, the idea that they have to remove this guy from office in the middle of a campaign,
it's so blatantly partisan and nonsensical that I don't think the American people will reward it.
I don't think that at the end of the day, they're going to say this is the right way,
the type of behavior we want more of in this country.
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Join now by Jeff Fisher.
Yeah.
Hello.
Jeffie?
Hello.
How are you doing?
Good.
I take a little issue with you
before we get into the real reason I'm here,
but Michael Bloomberg,
who's now announced that he's running for president.
He's in the presidential camp.
pain. You were saying that he is, you know, less than...
Well, I said he has all the charisma of a bathroom bulb brush, and I think that was an
exaggeration. He has about half the charisma of a bathroom bolt brush.
I don't know. Maybe you didn't see his announcement speech in Norfolk.
No, I think I missed that.
I have a clip of the end of it that will show you just how wrong you are.
Okay.
The fire that's in the belly of Michael Bloomberg.
But more than plans, I always...
offer the leadership to turn plans into reality, to roll up my sleeves, to motivate our country,
to unite and rebuild America, and make it fairer and better.
I'm ready to get to work, so let's get it on.
I stand correct.
So.
I stand correct.
There is charisma dripping out of that guy.
It's shooting out of him.
He's talking about fire.
He is en fuego.
He practically burst into flame there.
He's so on fire.
Wow.
He's not good.
He's electric.
He's not good.
They don't have a good candidate.
They really don't.
They don't have one.
Like,
because even like the Republican race,
there was a bunch of good candidates.
But like,
there were people who were never really even made a,
a serious challenge of it.
Like a guy like Marco Rubio,
who was,
you know,
in fourth, fifth place.
But like,
he was a good candidate,
right?
Whether you like his policies or not.
We counted like seven or eight.
Yeah,
that were pretty good.
That you were pretty decent.
They don't really have any.
Maybe booted.
is a good candidate.
Maybe. Yeah, maybe.
You know, I don't know if there's anyone else.
I don't know if there's anybody else in that field that's a good candidate.
Forget the policies.
I'm just saying just purely on politics.
Is there another?
I mean, you want to like Tulsi, but.
Yeah, I mean, Tulsi has, you know, there's something there.
There's not a lot.
I mean, some people like Cory Booker, I'll never understand it.
They don't have anybody who has a chance to win.
That's the thing.
Because Gabbard, yeah, is likable.
And Buttigieg is likable, I guess.
I mean, none of them have a chance to win the nomination?
Yes.
Or, you mean, even beat Trump, let alone now.
Yeah.
Oh, they can't beat Trump, but they don't have, I don't think they have a shot at the nomination.
Like, voted judge, you think he's going to win the nomination?
I mean, he's got a shot at it now, I would say.
But, I mean, he, I don't, probably not.
Yeah.
It's still hard for me to believe that the mayor of South Bend, Indiana is going to go directly to the presidency.
That does seem like quite a step.
Yes.
I sure does.
But it's possible.
And I don't think we should dismiss the idea that none of these people can beat Trump.
You get into a one-on-one situation.
Anything can happen.
And, you know, a downturn in the economy in August,
and this thing is going to be impossible for Trump to win.
There are a lot of factors here.
But the economy is perfect.
It's pretty good right now.
It's terrific.
There's never been a better economy in the history of the world.
This is the greatest economy there's ever been, so I can't imagine a downturn.
There's not a single person right now that's unemployed.
No.
Everybody's employed.
unemployment's at its lowest rate for everybody everywhere.
I will say the strength of the economy is best personified in this room that Jeffie has a job.
It's a good point.
I mean, if Jeffie has a job.
Yeah.
How can this?
We're overemployed in this country.
Like, we have too many jobs.
In fact, I'm looking for more work.
Really?
I'm looking for more work.
I was excited yesterday when you did your story on the cameo website where people, you know,
you're able to be asked to do things for people on video.
from Cameo.
Now, this is different than your websites where the same type of thing happens, but it's a little...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The requests are different.
The requests are different.
Although, maybe they are not.
This is like where you would typically have somebody wish someone else a happy birthday.
Right.
That's what you would think.
Hey, congratulations on graduating college, right?
And they're from celebrities, like someone from...
There's a couple people from the office, Stanley from the office is on there.
You can just pay him a couple hundred bucks and he'll say, hey, I'm Stanley for.
from the office, whatever my actual name is, and please, you know, like, have a good day or whatever,
right?
I hope your breakfast was delicious.
Whatever the message is.
Exactly.
Right.
Now, the reason we talked about this yesterday is different.
Right.
Because you had your boy who were doing the breakup.
Yeah, Mark McGrath.
Do we have a clip of this real quick?
This is Mark McGrath on this app cameo from yesterday.
What's up, Braden?
It is Mark McGrath from the band Sugar Ray off the charts, but always in your heart.
And this cameo was booked by Cheyenne, and she wants you to know a few things.
And this is a little difficult for me to say, because it's the first one of these I've done.
But she wants you to know that you mean a lot to her.
You mean the world to her.
But she's having difficulty staying in this long-distance relationship.
You know, it's tough.
Yeah.
I'm just to want you around anymore.
I've been with my wife a long time.
Right.
So anyway, you get the point.
You get the point.
It's Mark McGrat breaking up with a boy friend.
But again, don't get me wrong.
You mean the world.
It's just she doesn't want to be...
See you again in life.
Right.
But after life, maybe.
Maybe. No, probably not.
No. But maybe.
But I'm thinking that is a great idea.
Because a lot of people don't want to do that.
A lot of people don't want to be the person that tells you things.
Like, so if you have some, like, I'm willing, this is what I'm willing to do on Cameo.
What are you willing to do?
I, I did, I'm not up on Cameo yet.
I applied and they haven't got back to me yet.
Wait, are you?
So, oh my God.
But you're willing to break up?
With people?
Wait, hold on one second.
We need to explore this a little bit.
Is Cameo telling you you're not big enough, a big enough celebrity?
Oh, they haven't got back to me, yes.
Like, they won't go sub- screech-level celebrities, and that's where you exist down there.
How dare you?
Is that what's happening here?
No, they just haven't gotten back to me yet.
There's an approval process.
Yes, and that process is.
So do you set your own price?
Or do they set it for you?
I believe you do.
You do set your own price.
Okay, so you're going to ask for what, $1, $1.50?
Something like that?
I'm thinking, what, $50?
50? 50 bucks?
50 bucks?
Okay, 40?
I frankly wouldn't do it for less than 100, but we're talking about you now.
What will you take?
Seriously, what's it going to take?
Well, just depends.
See, as I was thinking that I'm willing to do if there's a sickness you want to, don't want to tell anybody about, I'll tell them, you know, grandma's sick, divorces, addictions.
Okay.
Breakups are easy.
I mean, you saw how easy that is.
deaths. You don't want to tell people somebody died.
I'm willing to do that. If you're willing
to do, hey, your loved one died.
Oh, you know, like
divorces or affairs.
Okay. Let's like, because this is interesting.
Do a little commercial for your service here.
Like if someone, if you wanted to tell
your husband about
an affair and you go to Jeffie's
cameo page and you book that, what does that
what does that look like? Give me a, give me a version
of that. Hey, Stu.
Hey.
Hey, you don't use personalize it.
You ask.
I guess. Hey, Stu, this is
Jeffrey, you know, just above screech level.
And your wife wanted me to let you know that she loves you very much.
Lisa wanted me to let you know that she loves you very much.
That's nice.
And she still wants to be together with you.
Oh, that's great.
She still wants to be with you.
That's great.
Why would she be confirming that?
But she wanted to let you know that she had an affair with the bug guy.
The bug guy?
The guy that comes over and.
And she just wanted to let you know that if word got out, that it did happen.
But she still loves you very much.
Oh, really?
wasn't Peter struck.
Different Lisa Page.
Oh,
oh,
okay.
I got to say,
that was much easier
taking from you
than it would have been for murder.
That's what I mean.
It seemed fun from Jeffie.
He made it seem fun.
I would totally pay 50 bucks for that.
I think I'd pay you 50 bucks for that.
Thank you.
Yeah.
That's really good.
I'm for it.
It's good.
Little stuff.
Little stuff.
The divorce would be hard,
but, you know.
I used to.
Yeah.
This is Jeffie.
Hi.
Well,
I'm not really talking to your video,
but okay.
and Lisa wanted me to send you a message.
Okay.
It's not the bug guy.
She likes Peter a little more than she thought she did.
It happens.
I'm not very likable, so I don't blame her for this.
And so she just wanted to let you know that your stuff is out in the front lawn when you come home today.
So you need to pick it up and yeah, she wants a divorce.
Wow.
That was a little harder to take.
Yeah, I felt that too.
I have to imagine.
Actually, hearing that from your wife would be more difficult than from just this guy's
a screech level.
Some of us have been through that.
This is a really good idea.
Thank you.
It softens the blow.
What about, let me present this to you as an option.
Now, because, you know, look, I'm an individual.
I only have so much money to spend.
But like a big company.
Like a big company that, let's just say, you know, you're Boeing.
You get the 737 max.
It's had some issues.
Yeah, it has.
He wants to inform some people whose relatives may have been on that plane.
Ooh, that'd be tough.
How does that, how does something like that go?
That would be really hard.
Hey, Stu.
These all start with hey, stew.
Yeah, these.
These do, yeah.
All right.
Let's go back to the beginning.
Hey, Stu.
Yes.
Let's Jeff here, Jeffie.
You know, you know me just above screech.
I never said above screech.
Let's be clear about this.
You said below screech.
I said below screech.
I'm not doing that.
Okay.
You had, it's been a problem.
It's been a problem.
It's been a problem.
Yeah.
Remember when you're flying your dog back home?
And your dog was on the 737 max?
Yeah, it's a brand new plane.
It's all the best technology.
It didn't make it.
So you're not going to see your dog anymore.
Oh, wow.
That didn't seem as gentle as it could have been.
It would need to be slightly improved.
But I mean, you could get like 100 grand from Boeing to do that.
I'm absolutely Boeing, yes.
And people are-
Email me chewing the fat at the blaze.com.
The thing about you, too, is like, people already have disdain for you.
So they don't, like, they're not going to necessarily transfer that to the company.
They're just going to add more hatred to you in your profile,
which is not going to affect you.
You're already in that position.
Boeing's already given me 100 grand.
Right.
I'm sorry.
You got more money and you're just hated as much as you were before.
Maybe a little more, but are you even going to notice that?
Probably not.
No, I'm not noticing it at all.
I don't care.
This is a good business for you.
This is a good business for you.
So are you really going to go up on camey?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'm assuming that they're going to allow me up.
Yeah, I don't.
You do need some notoriety.
It's not just notorious.
You need to actually have some notoriety.
Well, I mean, thanks to you, I am an expert.
on rape.
That's true.
I think
you may want to give
a little context to that.
If you do search, by the way,
this is true.
If you search for Jeffey's name
and you get past the mentions
of the former Tennessee Titans
coach and Rams coach,
you will get to Jeffie
and you will eventually
from the wonderful world of stew.
Yeah, wonderful world of stew
in which he played a role
a little too well, in my opinion,
as a rape expert.
And now,
The name Jeff Fisher Rape Expert is all over the Internet.
And I don't know that that's necessarily, again, good for your profile.
But is it worse than the way people think about you already?
I don't know.
No, I don't know.
And it looks at it.
If it ups my cameo profile for Boeing to drop 100 grand for me to tell people bad things, I'm all for it.
All right.
I'm going to sign up.
I ain't going to have you break all the bad news in my life from now on.
I'm good with it.
Thank you.
No problem.
I'm here for you.
I'm not paying no $30 for you.
But $1.00.50 sounded about right when Pat said it.
Hey, Stu.
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third phase of the moon,
but they're right on a lot of things.
Really?
A lot of things.
Third phase of the moon?
Yeah.
They're right in the first two phases.
Yes.
Both of the YouTubers agree that whatever it was,
it was massive.
Both of them agree.
Do we have a news stories that include the phrase,
both of the YouTubers agree?
That's a news story?
Yeah.
What's wrong with that?
It doesn't seem like it's like what are like
Two people said on Twitter.
Like that's not a news story.
Yeah, that's not a thing.
The fact that two people said something on Twitter just means it's a thing that can be said.
All things are said on Twitter.
I know, but two YouTubers agreed with NASA here.
And let's not forget they have a website called Third Phase of the Moon.
So.
So, oh, that's a great point.
And all.
But I just feel like.
You know, maybe we'd need a little more evidence.
Really?
Like, for example, yesterday when they shut the White House down,
they were like, oh, word, you hear about that?
The slow blob moving in the sky?
Yeah, that freaks you out.
A slow blob moving in the sky.
They locked down the White House.
It was a bunch of birds.
That's it?
In a flock.
Has that been confirmed on YouTube yet?
Third phase of the moon thinks it was an alien.
But everyone else seems to think it were birds.
But again, those are the same people who tell you that Jeffrey
Epstein killed himself.
Thank you.
They closed down the White House for 20 minutes because of birds.
Wow, they're aggressive birds.
That's amazing.
It is amazing.
And embarrassing, by the way.
And embarrassing.
Wow.
The same day he was pardoning birds,
then more birds are shutting down the White House.
I mean, the world's gone.
Right?
The world's gone.
Shut it down.
He was actually pretty funny when on the pardon of the,
of the turkey thing when he was
talking about the fact that yes, they've been
pardoned, but they've already been
subpoenaed by Adam Schiff
and his group.
He'll be asked to testify in the basement
of the Capitol building.
He didn't get a lot of last at the time.
He didn't. He didn't get the laughs he deserved there.
I know.
So, all right. Well, have a great Thanksgiving.
Thank you. Not you.
Not you. Everybody else.
Have a great thanks.
Jeffie, yours.
You can have an okay Thanksgiving.
We have this blanket that has
smallpox on it, your take back.
Really?
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