The Glenn Beck Program - This Is How We Restore America BACK to Sanity | Guest: Steve Baker | 9/6/23

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

A man who claims he slept with Barack Obama and saw him do drugs is set to appear on Tucker Carlson’s new show. Glenn recalls when this story first broke years ago and the media’s refusal to cover... the story. Glenn outlines the history of Elon Musk and his potential lawsuit against the Anti-Defamation League over actions that led to a loss of X revenue, according to Musk. Investigative journalist and BlazeTV contributor Steve Baker joins to discuss the weaponization of January 6 in the wake of a recent 22-year jail sentence for a former Proud Boys leader. Glenn and Stu discuss the downward spiral our economy is experiencing as Glenn shares a recent story regarding his credit card. If we don’t trust the government, why are we giving it complete control over our banks and money? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:06 What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Back Program. Now, if I said that I had gay sex and smoke crack with Barack Obama, would anybody pay attention to it? Of course they would. Of course they would. but somebody else says it and nobody pays attention and I have a story, like a 15 year story now on this. Finally, it comes to completion.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I hate to use that with it, but we'll give it to you and say, well, I don't mean that either. Anyway, listen, I'm sure you're perfectly fine when a natural disaster strikes where you live. You know, because Joe Biden's going to pack up his beach towel and put his shirt back on. and he'll be there soon with emergency food and everything else. Because working class Joe leaves no man behind. Well, not at least not in Rojoboth. Okay, let's just say that because he'll get there soon. If you believe any of that stuff, you're nuts.
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Starting point is 00:04:20 breaking news story. Well, we'll get to that one in a little while. Believe me, the press will pay attention to that one. I will say I've completely ignored the story. You've completely ignored the story. Completely ignored. You don't remember this story. I sort of remember the headlines, never really cared about it.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Okay. So everything you were about to tell me is new information. Okay. So Stu has a very selective memory. And this is one, this is a story that wasn't me, was it? Because that would be. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:51 It was you. I told you. All new information. All that crack. All that crack. You know, when you're on crack, you forget a lot of things. Okay. So anyway, this is a story that back in 2000.
Starting point is 00:05:01 2007, 2008, somewhere in that area, this story surfaced. And it is a guy who says, no, I had sex and smoked crack with Barack Obama. Now, these were the days where those things were crazy. I mean, I know they're run of the mill today. But back in the old days, we didn't have presidents that were smoking crack and having gay sex that we know of. What do you think that tall hat on Abraham Lincoln was? Crack pipes. Anyway, so I remember this coming out, and we had no verification of anything.
Starting point is 00:05:45 We never talked about it because we looked, and I think I even said on radio at one point, guys, guys, we don't have to go to the gay sex crack pipe thing. There's enough on the Marxist front. and we were in the midst of fighting the Jeremiah Wright fight that the media also dismissed, okay? They dismissed absolutely everything about Barack Obama because he was their candidate. Now, I have long forgotten about the gay sex thing with Barack Obama,
Starting point is 00:06:22 but the man who's, I mean, it was a magical evening for him, he hasn't forgotten. Now the reason this is a story today is because Barack Obama's old girlfriend received a letter from Barack Obama when they were dating and then they broke up and I think this one might have had something to do with it where he talked about thinking about having sex with men all the time. And I mean, she just didn't think that that was, you know, her cup of tea. You know, she, they had a lot in common. She also thought about having sex with men, but didn't like her boyfriend to be thinking that way, apparently. So nobody in the press even asked her about it. That she's just turned over the letter because I don't even know who looked into it.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Somebody looked into it and started going through and they found this trail led to her. Then the letter was produced. And we now know. So this guy is going to be on Tucker Carlson. No, this guy is going to appear on the Twitter show that Tucker Carlson hosts. How's that? Is that better? Much.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Yeah. And he's, well, let me just, here he is. You're just a guy who's in town for the night, and it sounds like you're looking to parties. Yeah. Pulled up in a bar outside and there's this guy that's introduced to me as Barack Obama. I had given Barack $250 to pay for Coke. I start putting a line on a CD tray to snort, and next thing I know he's got a little pipe and he's smoking.
Starting point is 00:08:07 So I just started rubbing my hand along this thigh to see where it was going, and it went the direction I had intended it to go. Even though you had sex with him twice, you did cocaine with him, watch them smoke crack twice. You had no idea who he was. I had no idea who he was. You just asked the obvious question.
Starting point is 00:08:22 What was Obama like on crack? Is it your sense that that's who Obama is? is transactional or that he's bisexual or like what is there? It definitely wasn't Barack's first time and I would almost be willing to bet it wasn't as long. The guy's running for president and credible information comes out that he's smoking crack and having sex with dudes. That seems like a story. Well, it would be a story if the media really cared about telling people the truth. Okay, okay. All right. All right. That's a good way to wake up in the morning.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Good morning, everybody. It's just a regular run-of-the-bill Wednesday in America. Is it possible to rewind my life and delete the past five minutes? Is that possible? Is that something that's out there? Is that eternal sunshine of the spotless mind? Is that a documentary? We could.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Because I'd be interested in knowing less about this story. Can I know less about it? Well, here's why this story is important. And there's only one reason this is important. because I don't care about anybody's lifestyle. I do think it's interesting that the first black president, now some are saying the first gay president, but they don't know about Polk, is Barack Obama.
Starting point is 00:09:43 He came out against all of this stuff, okay? The press, all they had to do was investigate. Now, there were so many things going, on at the time, the Jeremiah Wright thing, I thought was much more important. I don't know if we knew about the crack thing, but the gay sex we knew. We didn't know. We know this guy said it. And that's why we never reported it. It was one source. Now with the letter, that looks pretty, pretty, pretty bad. Pretty, pretty bad. Like, yeah, okay, that probably happened. The reason why this is important is because times have changed so much. The press did not pursue this story.
Starting point is 00:10:33 There was not one person in the press that decided on their own to pursue this story. If this story would have come out with the letter in 2007, would things have been different? or would the press have said the same thing they said about Hunter Biden? I contend they would have done exactly the same thing they did with Hunter Biden. They would have claimed that this was not true. This is just a smear because he's black, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So has the media changed at all? Because they're still not reporting this.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Now with the letter, they're still not reporting this. and again, this guy, he didn't have any credibility of me. I have no idea, you know, who he is. But the letter now gives this great weight. So they're doing the same thing. They're just ignoring this one, hoping that it will go away. And by doing so, half the nation knows something that the other half does not. by doing so half the nation has information that the other side has no idea about thus causing
Starting point is 00:11:58 another fracture and balkanization because when you get together with somebody and you're having dinner you know thanksgiving and i hope this doesn't come but if this comes up you're going to have all the people in your family say there you go again making stuff up and being probably very, very upset about it. If I found out this about Donald Trump or anybody else, I would want to know it. I would want to know it. But they don't even get the ability to decide. The same thing is happening now with the government.
Starting point is 00:12:39 You may not be able to decide if you can vote for Barack Obama or, sorry, Donald Trump or not. Because they know better. For the people who claim democracy is so important, they're trying everything they can to eliminate Donald Trump from the ballot, including telling states to remove him from the ballot, trying to get him under the 14th Amendment, which does not apply here, trying to put him in jail. any of these things just so you cannot vote for who you want to vote for. If that's Barack Obama, if gosh, if that is Donald Trump, then it's Donald Trump. But trust the American people, but they don't. This should tell you everything you need to know about progressives and everything you need to know about the media, which are progressives.
Starting point is 00:13:42 They don't think you're smart. enough. They want to be the arbiter of the information that you get. Look at the CDC. I have no problem with the CDC. I don't like the way it was done, but I have no problem with drug companies trying to come up with a vaccine. I have no problem. What I have a problem with is they didn't even live by their own rules. Okay, so that would make me say, I'm not going to take this until other people have taken this. I want to see because this is first time ever. This has been done.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I don't think I'm going to take it. My problem is not what people who decided to take it or the people that were offering it. My problem was being forced. My problem was we know better than you. My problem was the FDA saying you can't use these other options. Who the hell are you to do? tell my doctor? Who are you to tell my doctor that I can't take drugs that have been on the market
Starting point is 00:14:53 for a hundred years? Who are you? You know better than my personal doctor? How dare you? You should feel about Fauci and everybody else. The same way you feel about Fauci and all those who tried to jam this down your throat and make you into a monster. You should feel the same way about the press because the press is also making all of your decisions. By excluding information, we have numbers. Research has come out that shows 15% of the people that voted for Joe Biden. Had they known about the Hunter Biden laptop? Had they been told about it? Had they not been told that it was a Russian op?
Starting point is 00:15:53 Would have changed their vote and not voted for Joe Biden. Okay. They made the decision for you. You didn't need to know that information. There's one thing about people not reporting because you have one source. I didn't report this story. it would come up and I would dismiss it. If it'd ever come up on the air, I would say,
Starting point is 00:16:30 there's enough with Jeremiah Wright. No need to go into that rumor. We don't know if that's true. It's another thing when you have physical evidence. The press's job is to look at everyone with equal eyes, but they don't anymore. If you're running, I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat. If you're running and there's information out there, I don't want to hear all of the rumors and innuendos.
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Starting point is 00:18:55 Now, the guy who is on with Barack Obama has a lengthy recorded criminal history. He was arrested in 81, larceny convicted of 85, forging a check, sentenced to a year in jail in Florida. I mean, he's not necessarily
Starting point is 00:19:19 the best credible witness. So I don't know what we're supposed to get from this other than the lesson from the media. I'm interested to see how Tucker handles this because if it's just salacious details, I think we heard them all. I mean, I don't want to hear any more than what we just heard.
Starting point is 00:19:39 But I'm anxious to see what his take is on this. And here's the other reason why this matters. There is something really, really wrong in America. We are turning a blind eye to pedophilia. We're turning a blind eye. Barack Obama didn't engage in pedophilia. Stu's looking at me like, what are you talking about? What I'm saying is the president.
Starting point is 00:20:11 press, they don't report on things that they don't think is important or might hurt their side. And I don't know which one it is on this because we're not hearing the stories in mainstream media about all of the pedophilia that's going on in our schools now. Nobody's discussing the Epstein client list. Who has that? Sincerely. Who? Who? Who? Has that? What format is that in? Is it a written book or is it digital? If it's digital, has anybody altered it? Where's the chain of custody? I'd like to know who handled it. How do we know it's the original list that was discovered if we ever see it? Who has seen it? What does it contain? Does it show which girls they favored or slept with? Does it have a list of the client's likes? Were there entries that denote Epstein might have required? recorded them? Because remember, he recorded all of this. Where are those tapes? Where are they recorded? Who has the ownership of all of this? Where are they stored? And what's going to be done with them? Why are we not getting any of those answers even asked? Why is no one asking those questions? There's new video out from Ukraine that it is a guy who is a accusing and it's the only, this is the only source, so we don't know if this is true or not.
Starting point is 00:21:50 But they just sealed the records on Prince Andrew and all of the charges and all of the information. They just sealed them until he's 105. Why? Why? Would your records be sealed if you were accused of this? I would say probably not. Why did they seal his? Why are their special favors being done for the elites?
Starting point is 00:22:24 What does Epstein's book say about him? There's new charges out that he was in Ukraine just recently, and he molested two girls, and there's an eyewitness. Now, I don't know who the eyewitness is, but I heard his voice on tape talking about it. I've seen his shadow. He has reason to be afraid, but is that even true? When you start hiding evidence, when you start stonewalling, this is why conspiracy theories grow.
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Starting point is 00:24:22 And it's blaz-tivy.com slash glen. Use the promo code, Glenn. You'll save $10 off your subscription to Blaze TV. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're glad you're here. So I want to go through some of the things that we're talking about and not as a smear on Barack Obama or anything else. Um, it's, it's really a how many times and how for how long has this media been doing this?
Starting point is 00:25:04 You know, I felt as though they just started to get bad around the, you know, 2004. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. How much stuff have we found out even the government has been lying to us? about the Kennedy assassination for the love of Pete. I mean, those are big revelations and still holding things back. They overclassify everything. And then they leak what they want to a docile press.
Starting point is 00:25:47 There's no mainstream Western news outlets that are covering the story on the allegations against Prince Andrew. And it was on an Indian news network from India. And they did an interview. The allegations are that when Prince Andrew just did a visit in Ukraine, which was in June, that apparently it was part of the delegation that visited during a British foreign minister visit. And now he's facing serious allegations of abusing. two children in a high-profile club in Kiev. The allegations were made by James Obasi.
Starting point is 00:26:32 He's a Nigerian origin person who was entrusted with the responsibility of hosting the British delegation at this club. He said that he was an eyewitness to the entire incident. He said he was instructed to take good care of a VIP guest and that the VIP guest was Prince Andrew. He said he saw two children being brought to the prince. One was a 10-year-old boy. the other was a 12-year-old girl.
Starting point is 00:26:55 He was working at the club. He says that Prince Andrew asked him to arrange some food and drink for the two children. He saw that Prince Andrew was behaving in an objectionable manner, and it went from there. He was told to leave the room. He came back about an hour later, and the children he found in critical condition, hardly any clothes. He tried to take care of the children. Security personnel took them away. They did go to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:27:30 They did have injuries. But the news you're going to get here in America, and I don't know if that's true yet, but is anyone actually following through on any of this? There's real evil. Evil exists. And the press is not only just trying to, you know, destroy Donald Trump or to make some people look like terrorists, et cetera, et cetera. But they are also covering for real evil. Here's what was in Newsweek yesterday. Files relating to Prince Andrew Strip's as UK trade envoy will be kept secret by the British government until 2065.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Hmm. Ordinarily documents, government documents, declassified after 20 years, but he'll still be alive. And so they're going to give him until 2065 on that. Here's why this is so dangerous. Everything that you have trusted is being perverted. ADL. I always had a good feeling about the ADL. I was wrong. Maybe they changed, but I was wrong about the ADL. And I know this because the ADL led charges against me saying that I was an anti-Semite.
Starting point is 00:29:01 This destroyed my credibility and, you know, willingness of people to stand next to me. because I was an anti-Semite, apparently. I want you to listen to this story from the LA Times. Listen to how this is written. Elon Musk has long been known for blaming everyone else but himself for the various fiascos visited upon his companies. Medalsome bureaucrats for COVID-related production slowdowns at Tesla.
Starting point is 00:29:32 The Pentagon and conniving rivals for the loss of a government contract by SpaceX. nasty woke advertisers for the decline of X. So what were the chances he would get around to blaming the Jews? Based on the evidence at hand, 100%. Selly times. Over the weekend, Musk launched a ferocious spittle-flecked attack on the Anti-Defamation League, which describes itself accurately enough as a global leader in combating anti-Semitism, countering extremism and battling bigotry wherever and whenever it happens.
Starting point is 00:30:11 This is the, let me say, ferocious spittleflecked attack on the ADL from Elon Musk this weekend. The ADL, because they are so aggressive in their demands to ban social media accounts for even minor infractions, are ironically the biggest generators of anti-Semitism on this platform. Muss decided, going back to the LA Times, must decided that the ADL is responsible for, in his words, most of our revenue loss at X, giving them maximum benefit of the doubt, I don't see any scenario where they're responsible for less than 10%
Starting point is 00:30:54 of the value of destruction, so $4 billion, according to Musk. He asserted that the U.S. advertising revenue at X is down 60% primarily due to pressure on advertisers by ADL. That's what advertisers tell us, according to Musk. So they almost succeeded in killing X-slash Twitter.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Then he tweeted that he has no choice but to file a defamation lawsuit against the Anti-Defamation League. Not to put a fine point on things, says the LA Times, but all of this shows Musk to have gone utterly off the rails and over the edge of conspiracy-mongering
Starting point is 00:31:34 paranoia. It is the most extreme outburst of anti-Semitism by a purportedly mainstream public figure in more than 100 years. Really? Musk hates spasm easily outflanks the previous champion of public anti-Semitism, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., who was caught on tape in July, arguing that COVID-19 was targeted to attack Caucasians and black people. Now, that's in a quote.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Then they add, while leaving Ashkenazzi. Jews and Chinese relatively immune. Did he say that? If he said that, why is it in a quote? It's as if Musk challenged Kennedy's effort to seize the anti-Semitism crown by saying, oh yeah, watch this. Musk's outburst makes the position of Linda Yacanaro, the formerly respected, the formally respected entertainment executive, who accepted the job of ex-CEA.E.E. to restore the platform to the good graces of corporate advertisers, hopelessly unattainable.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Why she doesn't resign is a mystery. Do you hear the power of that? She used to be credible, but now the L.A. Times and saying, she's not credible because she's working with him. His words should also prompt the federal government to question his suitability and that of his company, SpaceX, to hold government contracts of any kind. Got that one? To clear our platform's name on the matter of anti-Semitism, it looks like we have no choice
Starting point is 00:33:21 but to file a defamation lawsuit against the Anti-Defamation League. Oh, the irony, said Elon Musk. The ADL, because they're so aggressive in their demands to ban social media accounts for even minor infractions are the biggest generators of anti-Semitism on this platform, he was responding to a tweet quoting the far-right conspiracy monger Alex Jones calling the ADL the most pro-Hitler organization I've ever seen. So now we're, okay. He furthered implied that the ADL is somehow complicit in creating the very thing they complain about. Musk implicitly endorsed the hashtag ban the ADL advocating banning the organization from X by replying, perhaps we should run a poll on
Starting point is 00:34:08 this. Surely he knows that his right-wing followers would swamp any such poll on the yes side. So are you now claiming that all people on the right are anti-Semitic? Because as, you know, the recipient of the Defender of Israel Award, I take umbrage to that. It is crystal clear that X's revenue problem is Elon Musk and his policies. He has welcomed dispensers of anti-Semitism, racism, and other varieties of hate speech back on to the platform, while amplifying misinformation about purported COVID treatments and homophobic slurs retailed by conspiracy movements such as QAnon. Corporate advertisers in the consumer market don't need the ADL to tell them that it's bad
Starting point is 00:34:58 for their brands to be associated with a social media platform bristling with neo-Nazis and other denizens of the cultural underworld. Listen to this. This itself is defamation. It is true that the ADL has had its eyes on Musk and X for some time. That's because the platform's content moderation policies have fostered a documented surge of hate speech since Musk acquired it last October. In March, ADL reported Twitter had refused to remove tweets or accounts that incited violence against Jews. Two months later, it followed up with a report.
Starting point is 00:35:37 that Musk's decision to reinstate 65 Twitter accounts that had previously been banned for hate speech had contributed to the anti-Semitism surge. The tweet and reply threads of many of these accounts, the ADL found, had become magnets for vile anti-Semitic content. They were rife with such familiar anti-Semitic tropes as conspiracy theories about George Soros. That's not a conspiracy theory. and it's not anti-Jewish. This is what Elon Musk says. This is what he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:36:20 To say that it is, you're being anti-Jewish for stating the facts that George Soros and his family play a big role in controlling global politics and the media. that's not because he's Jewish. That's because he's an evil SOB. That's why. And the reason we, part of the reason, at least why we know that, is because he's written op-eds in the Wall Street Journal about it. Yes. And he has, he's put many of our prosecutors, our local DAs,
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Starting point is 00:39:34 At the same time, they're going after Musk with clear threats, I believe. Joe Biden yesterday nominated the Secretary of Treasury, Jack Liu, as his new ambassador to Israel. Now, here's a guy who defended Barack Obama's nuclear deal with Iran. the 2016 decision not to veto a UN Security Council resolution condemning Israel saying, you know, I don't think it's helpful that America is the only one always standing by their side. He did not want to recognize Jerusalem as the capital city. He's constantly criticizing Benjamin Netanyahu, and he is the guy who is replacing the other ambassador.
Starting point is 00:40:20 that Biden appointed, who is called in Israel the arsonist in chief for his role in encouraging the opposition protests in Israel. So here's a Jewish state, the home of Jews, the only place where they can defend themselves because that's their country. Without that country, they got nothing. You're right back to the programs. and the ghettos and everything else. The people that are against Israel, they are beyond question. Really?
Starting point is 00:41:03 They're not anti-Semitic. I know, I know. Jack Liu is an Orthodox Jew. Yeah? So? He hates apparently the Jewish state or has been against the Jewish state in many circumstances.
Starting point is 00:41:20 But they go after Elon Musk and leave this completely alone. Journalists, do you ever do your job? Ever? Yeah, we found out that Mitch McConnell, that we listened to the doctors yesterday. He didn't have a stroke, and he doesn't have Parkinson's,
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Starting point is 00:44:18 Yesterday, Enrique Tario sentenced to 22 years in prison. The case apparently is that he was the leader who intentionally got himself arrested before so he could hang out in Maryland And so he wasn't part of any of it and it would make him look innocent. I haven't heard the facts on that one, but that's, wow, that's quite a conspiracy there. 22 years in prison.
Starting point is 00:44:52 This has let the former U.S. assistant attorney, Andrew Weissman, he said yesterday, Trump is going to get a significant jail sentence if this is what they're handing out for this guy. Again, what is the connection? And they're speeding the trial for Donald Trump. It's got to be done, you know, right, it's got to be done right after the first of the year, right into the election season. But this guy's waited two years to be sentenced. And there are still others that have been sitting in jail for almost two and a half years.
Starting point is 00:45:30 and they haven't had a trial yet. What the hell is going on? Well, we'll tell you, a guy who's really been following this and is under investigation himself for racketeering. We'll give you the full details on that. Investigative journalist and plays media contributor, Steve Baker joins us in 60 seconds. Michael lives in Connecticut.
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Starting point is 00:46:53 So I've never met anybody that was charged with racketeering. Have I? He looks dangerous. He does. He looks like a racketeer. Sorry. So they actually said they were going to come after you because you have the January, had the access to the January 6th footage, right? Well, this original assault on my freedom, no other way to characterize it, happened two years ago. I was there at the Capitol. I was there covering it as a journalist that day. I did what every other journalist would do that had a camera and a microphone and a tripod. I wandered around and followed the story where the story went. The story went into the building, and myself and between 80 and 100 other journalists also followed the story into the building.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Those independent journalists who have been jacked up legally obviously did not file their stories the next day with the right media outlet. And then, of course, those who did, none of them have faced any criminal penalties or investigation whatsoever. So fast forward eight months from then, I got the call from the FBI. I asked them what took you so long. And then a couple months later, they did the interview with me, a month after that. And this was November of 21, they actually notified my attorney that I was going to be charged within the week, quote unquote, and that one of those charges was going to be for interstate racketeering. Now, not a single other January 6 defendant of any type has ever even been threatened with racketeering in this whole dragnet. how do they what based on what well the only thing that we were able to surmise and this was a
Starting point is 00:48:36 an educated guess was because during my FBI interview they asked me what I had done with my videos and I said well I did what everybody else does I licensed to my videos my videos have been used by HBO for their documentary New York Times for their documentary such and such and such And the FBI agent went, how much did you make? And I looked at my attorney and I said, I don't have to answer that question, too. He said, no. And next thing I know, my attorney gets an actual U.S. code violation number that they were going to charge me with. And it was, in fact, a interstate racketeering felony charge with a potential prison sentence of 20 years.
Starting point is 00:49:20 So now you didn't hear anything from 21 until recently. Yeah, they went silent. We immediately launched a lack of a better way to put it, a media offensive. I sent out over 200 press releases right after we were notified that I was going to be charged within the week, quote unquote. And I think we successfully backed them off. At least they took my file and put it on the bottom. This particular assistant U.S. attorney did anyway. And so we didn't hear from them again for over 20 months. And then a month ago, we, get a subpoena. And what does it say? What do you have to do? I had to bring, I had to turn over all of my videos that I had taken that day. And the interesting thing about that is, and of course, we had several not only my attorneys, but other experts look at the subpoena and say, they said, oh, yes, this is about you. Because if they were, if they were bringing you in, the grand jury was bringing you in, they would have subpoenaed you directly to testify in somebody else's case. But because they didn't bring you in and they, they are asking for your.
Starting point is 00:50:23 evidence. Your evidence. It's about you. And of course, a grand jury is not convened for misdemeanor charges. How does that feel? I have good days and bad days. I mean, obviously, it's not, it's not anything I want to go through. I pray every day, Lord, let this cup pass from me. But then on the good days, I'm ready to fight whatever it is. It is absolutely incredible what's going on. We're just talking about the ADL and their fight with Elon Musk. But we know that's coordinated from the left, or we have
Starting point is 00:51:00 great suspicion that that's all a coordinated attack. Look at, you know, we've said if they can do this to Donald Trump, they'll do this to anybody. Well, they're now doing exactly the same thing to Elon Musk. I'll show you the man. Go find the crime.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And here you are. Just a journalist, regular guy. Did you get, did you get the call from, you know, I don't even know, the proud boys and the hoods or whoever it was that organized this whole thing? No, this is what makes a interstate racketeering charge ridiculous on its face, is that requires collusion, coordination, basically a conspiracy with others in order to initiate some sort of racketeering plan.
Starting point is 00:51:45 And the reality is, is that by myself, I crossed a state line from North Carolina into Virginia into D.C. to do nothing more than document an event that was taking place. And quite frankly, I've not and have never been a Trump supporter. So this is interesting, again, on another level. And so when that happened and we got this particular charge, the only thing I could think of is who are they going to connect me to? I've never been in contact with a proud boy or an oathkeeper or anything of that type in my life. Now, once the trials started, and I started covering the trials and covering January 6 events, I've talked to quite a few of them.
Starting point is 00:52:25 How many people are in jail still without a trial? I don't know that number. It is not as big as we maybe think it was. Five would be outrageous. Yeah, it's too many. But there's more than that. They've arrested over 1,100 now. They are obviously ramping up now because they got that huge.
Starting point is 00:52:46 new funding boost in the last omnibus bill back in that $1.7 trillion omnis bill, omnibus bill last year. And then as a result of that, they have the funding now that they believe they can go after another 2,000 people, 1,200 to 2,000 people. Holy cow. And yet the ones who cut down one of the fences, we showed this video last week, cut one of the fences was there. We have his face. The guy. guy up on the tower. We have his face. The pipe bombers, nobody seems to care about those guys in the Department of Justice. Nobody seems to be even, they've never posted their faces on the most wanted list. We've asked questions, obviously, about all of those. We've done our own
Starting point is 00:53:34 investigations. Some of us have run our own facial recognition software. Obviously, they have better facial recognition software at the Department of Justice and the FBI. And we've also seen many of these characters using their phones while on the Capitol campus. So they are really proud to roll out as evidence in these trials, this geo-fencing software that they have and they can track people down. And they're really proud to roll that out. But when we point out the clear facial high-definition photography of an individual and using their phones, and then we ask why they don't know who it is.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Oh, well. We don't know. We just, we just don't. We just don't know. Okay. So Henry Enrique talks. Mario yesterday, former chairman of the proud boys, sentenced to 22 years in prison. 22 years.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Tell me this case. He has a checkered background. You start there. He's been in trouble with the law a couple of times before. He's actually done time in federal prison for another conspiracy charge. I forget the exact details of the case, but it was some sort of medical device rebranding that he was doing, that they had stolen goods. and he got jacked up for that. But not against the government.
Starting point is 00:54:48 But not against the government. Okay. And it was a federal charge and he did spend time in federal prison. And then he became an informant after that. And he actually began informing on other criminals in the circles that he ran in. And then as a result of that, he was considered by many of the people, even in the proud boys. First of all, they didn't think he would ever be arrested for this. They thought that probably he was a CHS himself.
Starting point is 00:55:14 confidential human source or the FBI or some government agency. So there was always that conspiracy and always that suspicion about him leading up to this. And then he was arrested. And then the suspicion was, well, they'll never go through with it. Or he'll somehow get out of it. And of course, now after the conviction and the sentencing, the conspiracy still persists because they say, okay, well, he'll get sent to some, you know, white collar country club facility and be out in a couple of years. With reason, he probably was not a confidential human source on this then.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I don't think he was. I think that in this particular case, he did in fact, he escalated very quickly because he didn't join the proud voice. So just, I think, 2017, 18, something like that. Wow. He escalated in leadership very quickly. And then once he reached the top and took over the reins of it, he was, you know, he was an active voice as a lot of the, people who are being convicted, they're being convicted for their scary words. A lot of those words are rather founding fatherish. They're very revolutionary type words that we've heard and read and seen
Starting point is 00:56:25 before. And some of us use that language. And so a lot of these people are being much more severely punished for their words than for their deeds because obviously he did not tear down any fencing that day. He did not participate in violence that day. He wasn't in D.C. that day at all. So the only thing that they were able to convict him of was his scary words. And ultimately, the conspiracy of having planned the event, but the FBI never was ever able to produce actual evidence of a written or verbal plan of a conspiracy to attack, assault, take down the capital, stop the electoral ratification. And that was the same exact thing that they did in the Oathkeeper's trials. These guys were convicted of seditious conspiracy, but it was a what they called an implied conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:57:20 It was a thought crime. It was not an explicit conspiracy. So there's no text from Enrique Atario saying, hey, this is the day. This is what we're going to do this. Like, you guys should go into the Capitol. We need to stop this vote from happening at any expense, any means possible. There's nothing like that? Largely what he was convicted for was not what he did in advance. It's what he said afterwards. Something to the effect, hey, I'm proud of you guys. We did this.
Starting point is 00:57:46 You know, good job. That kind of stuff. So there's a lot more evidence that could be construed us. And particularly, let's be honest, a D.C. jury is not hard to convince. Oh, yeah. And I can talk a week about just that alone, having sat through these trials myself or some of them. And as a result of that, the, and some of these words that he used, I think it was easier to connect him to an implicit plan than it was for the oathkeepers because they had nothing. I sat there every single day for nine weeks in that trial, watched it up close and personal.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And the prosecution, the government was losing that case. Two weeks into that trial, they were getting there. butts handed to them by the defense because every single FBI agent, seven or nine of them, testified under cross-examination that they had never seen a written or verbal evidence. So what the hell happened? Well, they switched, the government switched gears and they went from the explicit, their effort to convince the jury of an explicit crime, an explicit conspiracy, to they literally switch gears and then started the process of going for the implicit, the implied conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:59:04 and literally saying in the trial that it was hatched in the moment on the steps at the Capitol that day. Because they had nothing, no planning in advance whatsoever. Okay, more in, good heavens, more in just a second. If you want a great deal, Mike Lindell is giving a great deal on my pillow and the spirit of giving back. Mike wants you to know that the six-piece towel set is back, selling at an amazing low price. It's going to go fast. The set comes with two bath, two hand towels. and two washcloths.
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Starting point is 01:00:36 He was the ultimate person who organized and was motivated by a revolutionary zeal. Yeah. So they give him 22 years. He was also, they up the charge by adding terrorist charges, right? Right. Okay. I just want to say, remember when we used to talk about this right around the Patriot Act time? They're defining terrorists and everybody's gung-ho, but soon it won't take much to call you a terrorist.
Starting point is 01:01:08 So here we go. So this is what the judge explained. to Tario's defense attorney yesterday, very explicitly said to him, even though he wasn't there, talking about Enrique Tario, there to tear down the fences, to breach the building, to bust in a window, the fact that his co-conspirators as charged were in fact found guilty of that. And they were able to use literally the act of shaking a little temporary black fence. and then ultimately some other people tearing it apart, that the act of shaking that fence qualified them
Starting point is 01:01:46 for the terrorism enhancement penalties to their charging and their sentencing, rather. And so the judge said yesterday, he said in response to Tario's defense attorney, he said, I'm sorry, but the jury found you guilty of this. And even though you weren't there, they said, but he didn't do those things. It doesn't matter if the jury found you guilty of this.
Starting point is 01:02:10 found you guilty. And because your co-conspirators did those things, you are equally culpable. Now, this was a Judge Kelly as a Trump-appointed judge. Yeah, I know. Right. There's a new study out says that two-thirds, two-thirds of D.C. residents say they would convict Donald Trump in his prosecution over the challenge of the 2020 presidential election. So two-thirds, 64% of residents of D.C. said they would convict the former president compared to 8% who said they would acquit him and 28% who said they were unsure. How could you possibly get a fair trial in Washington, D.C.? It's worse than that, Glenn. It's, first of all, 92.5% of the voters in D.C. voted for Biden.
Starting point is 01:03:07 So just begin there. In the first Oathkeeper's trial, there was a sign. scientific poll, I forget which organization did it, that showed that 95 and a half percent of D.C. residents in the jury pool were predisposed to the Oathkeeper's guilt. The same polling agency polled outside of the Beltway, and in the rest of the country, it came in at about 55 percent. And of course, obviously the attorneys, and every one of those attorneys filed for change of venue. It was all denied. They're going to keep that in D.C. because it's a slam dunk for the prosecution there. But they're not going to let them move that out. And then when you get into the
Starting point is 01:03:43 jury selection process itself and you start and you listen to the interviews of the prospective jurors, they participated in BLM marches, you know, every type of leftist organizational march that happens on the mall there. They're probably involved or very closely involved or maybe 50 to 100 percent of their income is coming straight from the government itself. As you know, everybody's money comes from the government if you live in D.C. in some way or the other. And so it's very, very difficult to find the quote-unquote jury of your peers in that circumstance. All right. I want to talk to you. I want to go back and talk to you about what they're doing with Trump, what this means, if you think that there would be a change in venue, because it sounds like you don't think that you'll
Starting point is 01:04:30 get one even. And the other people that have been scooped up into this, 2,000 additional people what are they going to be charged with, in your opinion? Back in just a second with more from Steve Baker, Blaze Media contributor, investigative journalist, who is talking about the sentencing of 22 years in prison for the former proud boys leader. The Glenn Beck Program. American financing NMLS-182334
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Starting point is 01:07:23 You'll find out tonight at 9 p.m. only on Blaze TV. That's 9 p.m. Eastern. You can join us at blazTV.com. Use the promo code Glenn and save 10% now blazTV.com. Okay. We are, we're spending time on the sentencing. Yesterday of the guy who used to be the head of the proud boys for 22 years, we're talking to Steve Baker. He's investigative journalist and Blaze Media contributor.
Starting point is 01:07:54 He has been in the courtroom watching this, documenting it. He has seen the videotapes. When are you going to get access to the Capitol videotapes again, are you? Yes. Just yesterday I was notified by House Administration staffer that oversees that project. that we are being granted access again next week under the new media guidelines. And how long will it take you before we have a story from you on that? We already have basically all of the camera numbers and the time codes of everything that we need.
Starting point is 01:08:31 I need at a minimum of two more days in the video room to kind of tighten it up around the edges. And, you know, it all has to be buttoned down. It has to be perfect. or we can't we can't roll this out without you know coming under incredible scrutiny criticism that sort of thing yeah and so I figure in two more days that we'll have everything that we need and then we have to go through the process unfortunately of getting capital police approval of the actual clips that we're asking for and and that is unfortunately part of the problem now there's stated reason of course for going over all of the request that I will be submitting them is for security reasons as you saw
Starting point is 01:09:10 when Tucker rolled out his videos on that one night, there were some things that were blurred out, and there were some other things that were denied. And then that's been the case with some of the other independent journalists who have had access to this video. There's actually only been five of us so far. But the reality is that they can deny anything that they want to deny. And I have covered us by putting other eyeballs on this.
Starting point is 01:09:37 So there are other individuals that I brought into the video. room to put their eyeballs on and to see what I saw so that if in fact we are denied the specific state we will have people who said nope that's exactly what Steve saw okay um well good luck on that and and stay safe I know that you went to Jim Jordan and you said Jim you cannot do weaponization of government unless you do January 6 this is the head of the snake why did you say that? I went to him because we had learned through sources that Representative Jordan had no intention of using weaponization committee as a tool to investigate anything to do with January 6th. Now, the reason for that is polling is so bad, especially among the donor class. They have
Starting point is 01:10:29 a very low regard for what happened that day, as we all do. None of us are supporters of what happened that day, but they kind of want it to be something to be left into the past, as we've from one of our presidential candidates, and they want to look to the future, and this was the approach that Jim Jordan was taking. Unfortunately, as he got into this, every single weaponization committee that they've had an actual hearing on so far, whether it was FBI whistleblowers, IRS whistleblowers, whether it was Christopher Ray, it all came back to January 6, every single one of them. And when I had the opportunity finally to meet with him, the first thing that I said to him, And this was my lead line.
Starting point is 01:11:08 I said, with all due respects, sir, you have no idea what you're doing if you don't address January 6th, because ultimately this is going to explode and this is going to become a part in a process of all Americans' lives if we allow the precedents that's being set in federal court in D.C. right now to become the law of the land because 90% of the sentencing upgrades, the penalties that are taking place, have more to do with speech than they do with the actual actions and activities of the defendants. And it is all past speech. It's past the event so far. Some of it. Some of it is before. Some of it's during and some of it is afterwards. It's a mix of all that. It's just speech. Yeah. But it is, for instance, if you marched through the Capitol and you chanted USA USA as you took a couple of selfies, then you were, held to a higher standard than if you just went in and took a couple of selfies and kept
Starting point is 01:12:11 your mouth shut. And so that has been part of the issue. So is chanting USA, USA, USA in the nation's capital a crime in and of itself are worthy of a felony enhancement to your charges? You know, going into the capital, I mean, I think we, I don't think anybody in America has changed on way they felt on January 6th. You watched that and everybody I know said that was an absolute disgrace. That's not who we are. And anybody who is involved in any of the really bad stuff, they should all go to jail or prison. Where I think the American people, and this is what the left doesn't understand, or I should say, Democrats, don't understand.
Starting point is 01:12:58 We're still against all of that. We still feel that that was a dark, dark day. However, there are so many questions now about cover up, about why haven't we found the ones who are on videotape clear as a bell on pictures? We can't find them. We can't find them even though they were on your cell phone, as you were saying earlier. So we have a problem with, wait a minute, there seems to be a lot more going on here than anybody is letting on to. and then going after grandmas and everybody else, if you just walked into that capital
Starting point is 01:13:36 and you were chanting USA USA, it didn't mean that you were part of any of that, you know? Where is the flag being raised for the Trump people that were trying to pull those people down from breaking the windows? It was clearly, just because you were there, didn't, I mean, it was stupid to be there,
Starting point is 01:13:57 but, you know, you didn't do anything criminal. This, if these are allowed to stand, this means that whatever you say, but for instance, let's just flip the, the narrative, as you were watching Minneapolis burn to the ground, and you said, good, get the cops. And you were in Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah, they had nothing to do with it. They could come and nail you. They could, but would they? Right.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Not this DOJ. But I'm saying, yeah, I'm saying you don't want this precedent set because if it stands, somebody else gets in and it can absolutely reverse that. That's absolutely correct. And that was the moment of hope that I had is when I did have my face-to-face with Jim Jordan. I got through to him and he wrote my name and number down. And then as a result of that, I've been now working with the Webinization Committee investigators. I talked to them every day. Do you think we're going to get, you think, I mean, this is so deep.
Starting point is 01:15:06 The corruption is so deep. Do you think we're going to be able to root this out? I think we just need a couple of big reveals and that will force the rest of the nation to take a moment, hit the pause button and in their own feelings. And what would those reveals be? To be honest with you, I believe that we have a clear, that we've found clear evidence of collusion, corruption, suppression of evidence in one particular trial between the Department of Justice and the judge that oversaw that trial, as well as particular witnesses that were testifying. And we have the documentation. The documentation itself is still under court seal. So it's under protective order.
Starting point is 01:15:58 So we have to subpoena that. We have to file four requests, hopefully get that. And then overlay those documents with the video discoveries that we've made. And then weaponization committee is going to have to, or one of the other committees, going to have to subpoena these characters, maybe even the judge himself. I have said this for years. You don't want big government because if the government, is the criminal.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Who do you go to? I have been in a court case against the government. The government decides to say, Pounce hand. Pound's hand. You cannot fight against the federal government. You know, very, very few could afford it, let alone what they, if they just want to say, nope, sorry, national security.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Well, wait, but that's my case. That's my life. You don't get it. We've had a couple of victories, though. In these trials, there have been a couple of victories that have shown that we can, if the evidence is strong enough, we can break through. And the biggest thing that people can do to help, just the average person listening right now. I still go back to sunlight is the best disinfectant. We have to speak louder.
Starting point is 01:17:18 People have to not be afraid. afraid. This judge, Kelly, the proud boys judge, he said the quiet part out loud last week during the sentencing one of the other proud boys. He said your behavior, your words now will suppress other people's desire to participate in the First Amendment process. He said that on the record? Oh, absolutely. In the First Amendment process? He said. Yeah, absolutely. Your actions, your behavior, your words will now put fear in other Americans to participate in the process. Well, I think it's worked. I think there's a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:18:04 I know I won't go to Washington, D.C., only because I don't think you can get a fair trial there. I'll go anywhere. As long as I get a fair trial, well, I don't think you get a fair trial at all. Washington, D.C. And that has to change. That has to change. I wish I didn't have to go, but I'll be there Monday. Good. We'll be praying for you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Back in just a minute, James wrote in about his dog's experience with Rough Greens. He said, Suki is a victim of a stroke due to a reaction to a rattlesnake vaccine. Since that time, she's recovered, but had some of the remnants of her debilitating attack into her system.
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Starting point is 01:19:22 trial bag free. All you have to pay for is shipping. It'll come quickly to your door, feed it to your dog, and then over time, watch the difference. I saw it in my dog. Stu has seen it in his dog as well. All you pay for is shipping for the first trial bag, 833, G-L-E-N-N-33, Roughgreens.com. This is the Glenn Beck program. So I'm anxious to see what he does with his exclusive that should be coming maybe in a couple of weeks on January 6th. It would have to be, I mean, it would have to be Joe Biden hiding in the bushes with audio going, hey, no, seriously, not a joke. Go in there and, you know, I mean, because the press will not cover. fairly anything that is said about this because the case to get Donald Trump is part of this.
Starting point is 01:20:38 So the press is not going to discredit anything. No. And look, the public opinion type stuff that is going to be really hard to move on a situation like that. You're going to really have to have crystal clear evidence. It's important for us to know the truth whether it moves the public or not, frankly. Man, that's not necessarily. I want to know the truth whether one other person believes it or not. But it's going to be hard. I mean, people have really calcified opinions on this, and it's going to be difficult to move people.
Starting point is 01:21:10 And it's really, this is a two-year effort to make it so. All right. It's really important that every time you talk about it, you make sure you lead with or you insert, you know, my feelings on this hasn't, it hasn't changed. Bad guys doing bad things in the capital. that day was a disgrace. Now, I don't think that was the vast majority of people in there, but there were some really bad actors breaking the windows and everything else. That's clear cut, clear cut with those people.
Starting point is 01:21:41 But what has changed is we now believe, many of us, believe that there was some sort of government collusion or they at least knew. beforehand and did nothing about it. Okay, so an act of omission is the baseline, I think. And then you have just too many unanswered questions where people have their phones and their faces right on camera and they couldn't find them for some reason. And they're not even looking for them. And these were major instigators, major. What is your thought, and this may be too long of a question for the time we have remaining here, but what's your thought on?
Starting point is 01:22:27 motivation. Why, why would the government do these things? To get exactly what they have now. You can discredit. You can call it half the country terrorists. You can start going after people. You can make them afraid. If your opponent is afraid to engage in the free speech of peaceful, which this was not, of peaceful demonstrations, you've got a real problem. Look at what is happening. to our society. Once you could burn a city down to the ground and there were no repercussions. Okay. It's the exact opposite.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Some crazies go in with a bunch of grandmas and the grandmas get arrested. Uh, wait, what? It's bone chilling for the average American. Well, there was someone who was, you know, over the past decade or so, is saying, and then saying, hey, make sure no matter what they do, you don't react to it. because they will use it against you. There's only a host out there that it may be blabbed on endlessly about it for a decade. Maybe we could have avoided some of these things.
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Starting point is 01:25:51 This is the Glenn Beck Program. Hello, America. Everybody says the economy is doing fine. Well, when I say everybody, I say everybody who's in this administration or at the top of the very top of the ladder running, corporations that keep getting the money and the bailouts and everything else. The economy is not fine. Give your wallet the test. How you doing on bills every month? What you could afford to spend in a month, that money is gone in a week now. Why if the economy is doing so well? Because they're
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Starting point is 01:28:18 When you have a low interest rate on any mortgage, that's why you are, you know, lock them down, the reason why people lose their houses and everything else, if they haven't locked down their interest rate, is when interest rate goes up, so does your bill. And you know this. It's your credit card. if you are if you're using your credit card now chances are that you are paying north of 20% interest I mean that's almost Lone Shark kind of stuff we're getting into really bad interest rates that you'll have a very hard time paying off so why is the interest rate on your credit card going
Starting point is 01:29:02 up well a couple of reasons um one I think the credit card companies are especially with big purchases, they do not want to be holding the bag. I have a, and I only tell you this story because I think it is a marker in time, okay, and we'll show you where we are. I have the American Express black card. I've had it forever. It's the Centurion card. I've had it for, what, 25 years to? I built the blaze on that credit card. Everything we bought was on my black card. We have spent millions of dollars as a company on that black card. And it has to be paid off every month.
Starting point is 01:29:54 I've never missed a payment, never had a problem. And literally, I built the blaze on that credit card. Almost every piece of equipment, every camera, everything. was put on that credit card for two decades. I go and I try to buy something in, what are you looking at? Two decades? The place hasn't been around for two decades. God, am I that old? No, but I've had it for two decades.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Okay. So when we were building big parts of the company. Yeah, and when we were building the studios in New York City and everything else. I saw you. You make me feel old. Okay, sorry. So I was in London, and we put our London trip on it. Now, the thing with a black card is there's no spending limit.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Okay, you can spend. And I say that about every American Express. There's no preset spending limit. Yeah. But that's not true for me and the average person. And they may call and say, hey, is this you? Yeah. Did you just put a Ferrari on the card?
Starting point is 01:30:56 Yeah, they'll call you for certain things. I just bought a control room. Yes, it's me. Okay. So, but they don't, they don't do it. They don't do anything. So I put my London trip on my credit card. It's a normal vacation.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Normal vacation. I went and bought something in London and they took it. And then I went to go get an extra suitcase because we were bringing gifts home and stuff like that. And my credit card was denied. And we call American Express and we're like, we're trying to spend like $200 and you're rejecting our card. Well, you've spent a lot. Yes, yes, we have.
Starting point is 01:31:44 We went on vacation. We're staying at a nice hotel and yes, we've had nice dinners out and we've spent a lot. Well, it's getting a little high. I said, have you, look at your computer. Have you seen I bought whole control rooms and everything else on this credit card? Yes. Have you also noticed I have an A plus rating? I've never missed a payment.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Yes. So why are you calling me now rejecting the $200 suitcase? Well, you'll have to make some sort of a payment. Okay, so wait a minute. I have this card because I can put everything on it and it's not a problem. But now, because I'm trying to buy a $200 suitcase, you want me to make a payment with my bank with a six-hour time difference. and I'm in London, not real convenient. Well, you'll have to make a payment.
Starting point is 01:32:37 Okay, so my wife, how much? They told us, transferred the funds. Done. Then it's rejected again. Now I'm standing in line at this stupid suitcase store, just like, this is ridiculous. And it's rejected again. The next lady says, no, you have to pay it all off.
Starting point is 01:32:59 I said, wait a minute, hang on just a second. what kind of crappy-ass credit card company are you where I put it on a credit card, I'm away for two weeks. The payment date hasn't even come through, and you want me to pay it off halfway through the month? Are you out of your mind? Why do I have this credit card? Why don't I just go electronically transfer money to the hotel and everything else? Well, it's just, you know, we just, it's a little concerning. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:33:38 Now, here's the thing. That's why I say this. I believe that the credit card companies don't want to be holding the bag. I believe they're jacking up the rates. They're also limiting things because they don't want to be sitting there if something goes wrong and they're holding the bag for it. I that's the only explanation I can come up with it was I've never seen anything like that from American Express and then you add on the information that these rates are going up for everybody for everybody and it's it's going to get much worse so you've so you have the interest rates
Starting point is 01:34:21 now why are the interest rates going up the interest rates are going up because of the Fed if I hear one more person say oh you know what I think the Fed's doing a good job Are you out of your mind? They're now playing firefighter to their own arsony. Arsonist moves. What was? Arson? Arson?
Starting point is 01:34:42 Yeah, they were the arsonists. They set fire to everything. And now they come in a truck and you're like, oh, thank goodness they're here. And what they're doing is trying to make it so you don't have money to. spend. You don't have a job because the government is spending two trillion dollars in credit. Okay, you think your credit card's bad? Two trillion dollars on credit. Okay. So you can't rein in inflation because somebody who's a bigger spender than Elon Musk is, is, is, is racking up a bill on our government credit cards every year of $2 trillion.
Starting point is 01:35:40 And no bank is calling them and saying, hey, hang on just a second. Hang on. Before you buy that set of luggage, can you make a payment on this? Nobody's calling the government. The banks are enabling this. The rich are getting richer. The reason why they say, everybody on TV, you know, the economy is doing fine. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:36:08 Have you been to a grocery store? Have you bought eggs and milk? Have you been to the gas station? Standing there, what was it, Saturday? And I look at $100 to fill my car. And I'm like, are you kidding me? And everything is fine? Do you know who's getting rich on gas right now?
Starting point is 01:36:35 You know, we punished the, uh, we punished the, uh, Russians, right? Because they have to have this money. Really? Do you know why oil is now surging right now? The reason why oil is surging, one of the reasons why you're paying more for gasoline is because the Russians cut back on their supply. So the Russians are not producing as much as they were, intentionally driving the price of oil up. The sales. The Saudis have joined them in that. Now, if I'm a country that I depend on oil and I got to sell my oil or I'm going to be bankrupt, I don't cut back on the supply.
Starting point is 01:37:24 I sell as much as I possibly can, especially if Saudi Arabia is going to do that. Great. Let them come down, drive it up to $110 a barrel, and then I'll come in and I'll sell it for 90s. or $100 a barrel. Nope. Our petroleum reserve is now at the lowest level since 1983. So we don't have the ability to just release a whole bunch of oil. At the meantime, we are going into electric cars. Electric cars.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Electric cars where we don't have the coal bolt. that's in Africa but Africa it already has those mines and those those pits purchased by China China has the rest of it we are doing things
Starting point is 01:38:34 to our own country to kill our own economy Trump just came out and said the auto industry will collapse because of these electric vehicles they are doubling down on the number of vehicles
Starting point is 01:38:50 but the price is unreasonable the price is not something oh you know do you see Tesla Tesla just came out with uh you know their cars and they're they're reducing them 25,000. Oh so everybody can go out and buy a $75,000 car. Oh, okay. Okay, well problem solved. It's also now creating a problem with any environmental benefit that was supposed to come. New research shows that electric vehicles become eco-friendly after somewhere between 30 and 70,000 miles. Now, sometimes it's even higher than that, but somewhere between 30 and 70,000 miles is like the break-even point if you care about whatever benefit they're supposed to give. The problem, though, is that these subsidies are encouraging people to turn over and buy new cars faster.
Starting point is 01:39:42 So they're now buying the car before they even get to the break-even point. So these families are buying electric vehicles that are environmentalists thinking they're helping, buying new ones, they're helping even more and actually they're even worse than the fossil fuel car they left. Stu, what was the car of the dictator? Do you remember there was that little teeny car that was made? It wasn't the Zill. It was made in the Soviet Union and now they're everywhere because they made the body out of something that will not degrade and cannot be reused.
Starting point is 01:40:17 I can't remember that. You know what I'm talking about? We watched a documentary or something about it. And it's this crazy thing. I think that's what we're going to be with with cars, electric cars. Because once the battery is out, what are you going to do? You're going to spend almost the same amount on a battery to replace all the batteries as you would on a new car? No, you're going to buy a new car if you can afford a new car.
Starting point is 01:40:46 What happens to all of those batteries? What happens to them? where do they go? I mean, there's just, there is no thinking at all. We're going to do a chalkboard tonight. You will understand the economy, hopefully in ways you have never understood it before. You don't want to miss it. Tonight, 9 p.m. Blaze TV.
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Starting point is 01:43:06 Glenn, last night I did a show on Studios America about the out of the control situation we have fiscally as well. I think maybe you could be a good partner to your show tonight, but the new projections for next year have the deficit doubling to $2 trillion.
Starting point is 01:43:22 We mentioned it briefly yesterday, but the details on it are crazy. This is from Brian Reidel is a budget expert. 7.6% of GDP budget deficit has been exceeded only during the depths of World War II, the Great Recession, and the pandemic. Deficits didn't even hit these heights during the Great Depression, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, or the Reagan defense buildup. Obviously, these things are supposed to go down during peace and prosperity, right?
Starting point is 01:43:47 It's unprecedented in U.S. history during peace and prosperity times. He says, the U.S. has behaved like a short-sighted subprime bar. borrowing using low interest rates to make massive new borrowing commitments, except the debt commitments
Starting point is 01:44:02 were forever, but the interest rates were short-term adjustable rates. He was on my show, I don't know, a year or a year and a half ago,
Starting point is 01:44:10 when the rates were still low, saying exactly this thing. If at the very least, all we could do here is take the debt we have and lock it
Starting point is 01:44:20 into long-term debt, which would make the rates go up slightly, but would lock it in for a long period of time. because if these rates go up on the short-term side, we're screwed. Screwed. And everybody knows it, and nobody's telling you that.
Starting point is 01:44:32 He warned about it that day. He's been blabbit about it forever, as he will tell you. They didn't do it. The rates went up. And now we're looking at what may be in less than a decade, $4 trillion a year in deficits. There's no way we can handle that. There's no way.
Starting point is 01:44:51 You saw what happened with just the extended bar. We can walk and chew gum. We can do... No, we can't. We can be two trillion. We can't walk or chew gum. We're bad at all of it. Just to put this number into perspective, if you earned a dollar per second, 24-7-365, a dollar per second, that would be $31 million a year.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Okay? To make a trillion dollars, it would take you 31,688 years. at a dollar second, $30 million a year, you're 31,000 years away from making a trillion. We are $2 trillion over budget this year. And how are we going to tax our way through that? There's no way. You cannot tax your way out of that.
Starting point is 01:45:48 There is no solution like that. I mean, there's nothing. There's no way to do it, really. I mean, no, certainly no politically plausible way to do it. You want to start raising tax rates to 40, 50, 60 percent on middle class borrowers. You could start to at least make a dent. Middle class people who earn 20, 30, 40, 50,000 dollars a year. You want to wipe them out with all the taxes?
Starting point is 01:46:09 I mean, the economy's going to collapse, but you can at least make some of the numbers work on a spreadsheet. But, of course, they're not going to do that. No. They're going to go after evil, rich people and get one-tenth of one percent. of what they need and brag about it. And you run out of people's money because as prices go up, they print more money
Starting point is 01:46:30 and then you go broke. They have to have a new program for you, which means they print more money. You feel the pain. You won't support a politician that won't say, I'll take away your pain by giving you even more. They print more money.
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Starting point is 01:48:28 People keep saying prices keep going up. No, your dollar keeps going down in value. That's what's happening. Some things are more expensive to produce or to ship, but it's not completely out of whack that would make your eggs, do what your eggs are doing and make all the things that you're used to just going out and having be this kind of expense. there's another thing that is happening. And it is also caused by the government.
Starting point is 01:49:05 A giant grocery store, Southeast Washington, D.C., removed all of the brands like Advil Coldgate tied from its shelves. They don't, they won't carry them anymore. They are also requiring people to show your receipt to a security guard as you leave the store. The manager said, we want to continue to be able to serve the community, but we can't do so at the level of significant loss or risk to our associates that we have today. I don't want to do this. I'd like to sell those products. But in reality, I stock those products and within two hours, they're gone.
Starting point is 01:49:46 They're not on the shelf anyway. We have seen tenfold increase of theft in the last five years alone. incredible. I'm telling you, Glenn, we're not far away from you needing to scan a card to get into a store. Oh, yeah. Like, you know, there are these stores that you may have seen them in airports where they're Amazon branded stores and you can, you scan a card to get in and you walk in, you take whatever you want off the shelf and you walk out and it charges you. You don't actually go through a cash register with a person. You know, it's like this high tech thing. And I think we're going to get to the point where these stores just going to, that approach where you can't enter the store without scanning the card. Therefore, if you start stealing stuff, they can charge the card. I mean, I really think we're going to get there because you're going to almost have to, it's almost like paying admission. It's almost like buying a ticket to get into a friggin' store. And imagine, imagine what that will do if you also include social
Starting point is 01:50:47 credit scores. You have to have a card going in everywhere. Yeah. I mean, at that point. It's bad. It's true. And again, you have to go down. further down this rabbit hole you get to a central bank digital currency where they can program who buys what and what things can be purchased and who's allowed to purchase them who's allowed in those stores in the first place certainly other countries have already gone down this route places like china and look i know we're different than china but we seem to have have an affinity yeah we do in far too many ways yeah we do um you also have the uh minneapolis residents now saying they're feel helpless because the streets have become so violent. Well, that's what happens, Minneapolis, when you put a city council in that wants to reimagine your police department. All of these things that are costing you money, costing you stress, costing your lifestyle and feeling safe, all of that stuff.
Starting point is 01:51:54 This is all brought on by the left. of it. When will America say I've had enough of the experimentation? I've had enough. This guinea pig died a long time ago. I think the experiment is over. By the way, did you know that yesterday we were told by Russia not to put any nuclear missiles over in Great Britain again? Because we're spending all kinds of money, hardening all of the bases in London and in Europe, because we're moving nukes there. Do you remember how bad the nuke thing was back in the 70s and the 80s in Great Britain? Everybody was protesting, get these bombs out of our country. We're now putting them back. And Russia said yesterday, if we actually put them there, they will see that as a major
Starting point is 01:52:57 escalation in the war. So let me ask you, how are we doing? How are we doing? I don't think you want the answer to that question. 75,000 illegal immigrants have been flagged as having possible ties to terrorism in just the last year. That's according to the Border Patrol. 75,000 have been flagged possible terrorist connection. What do you think is coming?
Starting point is 01:53:35 What do you think is coming? How is this going to work out for your kids? There is only one answer. And it is God. Turn back to God. That is the only thing that will save us. I'm telling you, we should all go through a 12-step program. As a nation, we should go through a 12-step program.
Starting point is 01:54:06 We are powerless over this problem. Everything we've tried has only made it worse. So we're out of control. And there's no end in sight. There's got to be a higher power than the one we're worshipping right now. And only that higher power, the highest power, can restore any kind of sanity. Gang, we are going to be remembered in many ways that the German people were remembered.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Hopefully we will not go down that far. But we are going to be remembered for the insanity. Our schools are teaching what? Our children are learning that mom and dad, maybe I should rat on mom and dad because they don't believe what the teacher believes, your children can be taken away. They're now in, I think it's Washington, D.C. I'd have to look this story up, so don't take this.
Starting point is 01:55:18 You'll have to look it up yourself. But the Daily Caller is reporting that now jurors are being dismissed because they're conservative Christians. Our president is under how many indictments, except the current sitting president is fine. What the hell? We've gone insane. So how are we going to restore sanity?
Starting point is 01:55:50 Well, first of all, don't say anything that the rest of the inmates are saying. Recognize that you may be the only sane person in the sanitarium. So if they're all like, men can I babies, women, men can I babies, making our babies, don't say it. That's an inmate in the sanatorium. And look to something solid and never changing. Why is gold the gold standard? It's not, I mean, it could be anything.
Starting point is 01:56:27 It could be anything. It could be, you know, cobalt. But gold was the first and the last. You know, we tried all kinds of different things. but gold is universally recognized as a storage of value. And it has been since the dawn of man. Okay. So what are we doing with printing and now a new CBDC,
Starting point is 01:56:58 a central bank digital currency? Wait, we don't trust the government. So let's give the government our banks and all of our money. and they will tell us how we can spend it? Are you out of your mind? You've gone insane. You've gone insane. We can't afford what we're doing right now.
Starting point is 01:57:23 And yet, we know there's a threat on the horizon from China. We know that. I don't want to get into a war ever with China or Russia. But if they bring it, we're going to have to fight it. but we can't we don't have the people are we can't recruit the people because man can have babies men can have babies man can have babies we know what this president has done in afghanistan you want this team that can't admit that that was a problem i mean you want to talk about man Babies. Afghanistan is a success. Afghan withdrawal is a success. Afghran
Starting point is 01:58:08 if it was a success. It's the babblings of an inmate. So we can't afford it. You don't want these guys doing it. And yet we're picking a fight with Russia. Maybe you would notice how this ended for Russia the first time around? What did we do? We roped them into a spending war. Got to keep. And we're going to increase. You know, we have Star Wars. He didn't have Star Wars. We have Star Wars.
Starting point is 01:58:43 We have lasers going to just knock them out. Now, what are they doing to us? And we're not building anything. It's not like we're spending ourselves into oblivion because we're going to have a missile shield. We're not building a missile shield. We're not building anything. We're giving it away to a corrupt country. Ukraine's not correct.
Starting point is 01:59:10 Ukraine's not corrupt. Ukraine's not corrupt. No, no, no, no, no. They're trustworthy. They're trustworthy. they're trustworthy. Okay. I for one would like to check out of the asylum.
Starting point is 01:59:22 The asylum is, it's a nice place. Sure, I like the minty green walls here and the cage on the windows. But I think I'd like to get out now. Don't say the insanity. Don't repeat it. Make sure you stand against it. I'm sorry. I just have to say, I'm going to excuse myself from,
Starting point is 01:59:46 from this conversation for a minute. Because what you guys are saying is insane. And someday, because if this kind of conversation doesn't stop, we will destroy ourselves and everything we built. And what I'm telling you right now is eternal truth. And it will reset. I just don't want to help burn my country down by standing here silently. Sorry.
Starting point is 02:00:15 I like people. I even disagree with you, but I even like you. I'd hate to see you, you know, die of starvation or whatever is coming. I'm checking out. Glenn's very fun at parties. Oh, always invited for the right reasons. But it's true. You have to be able to stand up and say these things.
Starting point is 02:00:37 You know, I have some question or a conversation with my son the other day about, like, you know, as he gets older, his friends will probably gossip and say bad things about other people in his class. you know, maybe, you know, girls in his class, whatever. And like, you know, you do not participate in that. But also, like, if it's around you, you need to find a way to not even be in the presence of it, right? Like, you need to be the person who says either, like, stop saying that or remove yourself completely if you can't bring yourself to do that. Because it's hard. It's hard to do that.
Starting point is 02:01:10 But at the very least, you need to not be participating and therefore approving of what's going on around you. Don't stand there silently. And I feel like a lot of it. of adults could could use that as well. Oh yeah. And you know, what I taught my son. Same thing I taught my son, but I told him to be a man, you protect those that cannot protect themselves.
Starting point is 02:01:32 You stand up for the weak. You stand up for people who are being bullied. It's vital. Yeah. And, you know, he didn't do it a lot. You know, as a kid, I'm like, okay, missed opportunity, dude. What were you doing? He is now.
Starting point is 02:01:48 He is now. And that is vital that you teach your children. Don't teach your children don't get involved. Teach your children. Stand up for the weak and the oppressed. Stand up for the little guy against the bully. Yeah, you might get a fat lip. But at least you stood your ground.
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Starting point is 02:03:52 Oh, so see. And profite. Via Raille, the voice that we love. You know, I'd like to see, I would really like to see the Republicans start selling all of the buildings in Washington, D.C. You know, 75% are empty. 75% of government buildings, because they're not coming back to work. Even though the president offered, or, I mean, issued a dictate, you've got to come back to work. 75% still working from home.
Starting point is 02:04:26 incredible. I don't know how we get past this. Oh, I think we sell the buildings. Yeah, but again, what is that? That is a, probably what the U.S. government should do. It should be smaller. There's a lot of unused buildings even before COVID. Yeah, I think we sell all of the buildings, except for a couple. And then when the next president comes in, oh, you're working. Okay, you're all in that building. All the rest of you, beat it. Well, first of all, I think we should be, you're right. Let's email, I'm in for like rent. out a wing of the White House that we're not using, honestly.
Starting point is 02:04:58 If people are getting in and putting cocaine all over it anyway, I guess we don't need the security. Yeah, who cares? But what does this mean to the commercial market? I mean, we're... Oh, my gosh. If you get to the point where not only we're selling them, but so many people, half of Manhattan is just empty. What do you do?
Starting point is 02:05:14 All these leases were long-term. At the end of the lease, there's no one to take the next lease. What happens? Companies are turning their building keys back to the bank. nobody wants to finance them nobody wants to do business with these big buildings that are sitting empty that shoe is going to drop
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