The Glenn Beck Program - Trump Accuses Democrats of Sedition — Here’s the Truth | Guest: Dave Isay | 11/21/25

Episode Date: November 21, 2025

Glenn has multiple examples that prove the Bubba effect is happening. Do you believe the explanations the government gives you for most stories or that justice will be served? Are a group of Democrat members of Congress advocating sedition? You cannot politicize the chain of control without breaking the republic. Glenn reads a list of red flags that always lead to a broken government. When a bank detects suspicious activity, it is required to file a “Suspicious Activity Report.” Over 14 years, JPMorgan filed seven SARs against Jeffrey Epstein, despite thousands of suspicious activity flags. Glenn discusses the failed Housing Stabilization Services program after years of evidence that it was primarily used for fraud. Ahead of Thanksgiving, Glenn speaks on the story of America and the importance of gratitude. StoryCorps founder and president Dave Isay joins to share how one small act of kindness can make a significant difference. Glenn discusses his podcast interview with Cracker Barrel’s CEO and how the interview originated.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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came out and did something that I think is not treason, but just so it's sedition. and we'll talk about that. That will bring me to so many, so many other things that we're dealing with today. We're then going to go to what has to be done on that. Then I'm going to take you to what I believe is the real meaning behind the Epstein. What is happening with the Epstein? Why is that keep being pushed in the way it's being pushed?

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And it begins with the local guy, Bubba. Bubba, it'll be Bubba against the officials, the government, or whoever. And Bubba might do something stupid, something that we're like, oh, Bobba, don't do that. What are you doing? But he does it. And even though he might be wrong or might be misguided in the way he's doing it, everybody kind of just looks away and goes, yeah, yeah, well, that's just Bubba. You know, don't worry about Bubba. But he's right about this.

You're the problem. Okay. I've been warning since 2003 about the Bubba effect that at some point it's going to happen. And it is everywhere today. And I want to show you where it is because I've got four different stories today. I'm going to take you through in the next, you know, 60 minutes or probably 120 minutes. And in that, you will see the Bubba effect everywhere. And it is not just one place.

Okay. this is not an academic phrase. This is a this is rooted in not only American history, but in human behavior. So let me explain. When the government loses its legitimacy and people no longer believe

the official explanations or the official investigations and there is no official moral authority, the outsider becomes the trusted insider. Okay. Now, let's go through this. Do you believe the explanations of what is happening on most things today? Do you believe the explanations just of stupid stuff like, hey, those were drones over the skies and we can't tell you what they are,

but they were definitely not from China and they're definitely not from space. They were probably ours. Do you believe that explanation? I mean, that's the, I mean, that could be one of the most consequential, depending on what it is, but it really doesn't mean all that much because we don't know what it is, okay? But I don't believe them. Do you believe the Epstein thing is on the up and up that we're ever going to get the truth? No.

Do you believe that the investigations either, you know, on either side, into Trump or into Trump's enemies, that justice is ever going to be done. No. These shooters, do you believe the Butler shooter? Do you believe Charlie Kirk, that thing? Do you even know where to stand on that one? I mean, I think I do, but I don't know. But look at how people are saying, oh, you know what?

That was an inside job. And so many people are believing it. That's the Bubba effect. Okay. When a crisis hits a shooting, a standoff, a raid, people stop siding with the government and instead side side with Bubba, the neighbor who stands against the federal power. Wrongdoing becomes irrelevant. Even if Bubba is partially or completely wrong, the public's animosity towards authority is so deep that they go to defend

Bubba just as an act of protest. In a way you saw this, with O.J. Simpson. You know, all of the jurors later said, yeah, we knew he was guilty, but we wanted to. They were making, it was a form of protest. Once it starts, it begins to escalate everywhere. And then authorities have to crack down even harder, and that causes more escalation. Okay. Citizens resist more fiercely. Each side starts to interpret the other side as the aggressor. Now, this is happening now in Dearborn, Michigan. People are sick and tired of what is going on in Dearborn, Michigan. The lies about what is happening with the immigrants that are coming in,

with these communities that are closed off, with the clear threat that Sharia law is, with what we're seeing happening in the city council meetings, what we're seeing happening on the streets, what's happening in our communities and our country, we feel like we're losing America, the America that we grew up in. But more than that now, it is becoming clear that the faith we have all had that helped build this country is coming under attack by a very hostile force, Sharia law.

Now, no one with any credibility is doing anything. They've been calling, you know, everybody a, you know, a Islamophob forever. And so that doesn't hold any weight anymore, right? So some guy comes and he's he's wrapping a Koran in bacon. Okay, would Jesus do that? No. Are you thrilled and happy that that's happening? No.

Is that the way to make the case? No. But why is it being condoned or dismissed by so many people? Because of the Bubba effect. At least he's pointing out the problem. Sound familiar? That's the Bubba effect. It's not one guy on the porch with a rifle.

It's about a societal tipping point. And when trust collapses, law becomes optional. Morals become optional. When institutions lose their moral credibility, power then becomes coercion. When the public assumes that corruption is the default, the truth no longer matters. And in that atmosphere, even a minor confrontation can spiral in. into a national crisis. And that is exactly where we're headed.

And history is full of these moments. 1790s, the Whiskey Rebellion. What was that? They couldn't pay the soldiers. So what do they do? Well, states decided I got to raise the taxes. They raise taxes on whiskey. Well, that turns into, well, that's a federal overreach.

Didn't what a soldiers fought against that. higher taxes. Now you're taxing our whiskey. Yeah, because we have to pay you and we don't have any other way to raise money. Well, we want our money, but we don't want taxes. And so what happened? That overreach turned dissenters into folk heroes. Bleeding Kansas.

That happened in the 1850s. Distrust in the federal arbitration caused vigilante on both sides to become local champions because some were standing up for slavery and government overreach and some were standing up for it. Okay. Post reconstruction. Citizens preferred the local strongman over the federal enforcement of civil rights.

Whenever trust collapses, citizens instinctively choose the closest authority in their community, even if it is flawed. You will defend even the wrong guy. Not because he's right, but because the system is wrong. And that is the real

danger of the Bubba effect. It's not a call to rebellion. It's a warning that unchecked corruption eventually produces rebellion spontaneously. It always happens. And the Bubba effect is a natural consequence of a nation that mocks accountability. Do you think accountability is being mocked? You're held accountable. Is anybody else?

It punishes dissent. No matter which side you are. You're wrong. You're either a communist or a Nazi and you need to be shut up. It hides behind bureaucracy. Well, we can't release that because we don't have all the details because, well, this is an ongoing investigation. An investigation that nobody believes. And then it expects unquestioning obedience.

Trust us. There's nothing to see here. The Bubba effect is a symptom of a republic in decline. not the cause of it. Now, let me show you a different kind of Bubba effect. And this one, this one, well, let me just play it. Came out a couple of days ago. Here are the Democrats putting together something that is aimed directly towards the Bubba's in the military and the CIA.

Listen. I'm Senator Alyssa Slotkin. Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris Deluzio. Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander. Representative Chrissy Hulahan. Congressman Jason Crow. I was a captain in the United States Navy. Former CIA officer.

Former Navy. Former Paratrooper and Army Ranger. Former Intelligence Officer. Former Air Force. We want to speak directly to members of the military and the intelligence community who take risks each day to keep Americans safe. We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now.

Americans trust their military. But that trust is at risk. This administration is pitting our uniform military and intelligence community professionals. against American citizens. Like us, you all swore an oath. To protect and defend this Constitution. Right now, the threats to our Constitution

aren't just coming from a barrage, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.

We know this is hard. And that it's a difficult time to be a public servant. But whether you're serving in the CIA, the Army, or Navy, or Navy, Air Force. Your vigilance is critical. And know that we have your back. Because now, more than ever, the American people need you. We need you to stand up for our laws, our Constitution, and who we are as Americans. Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up the ship. All right. I want to talk to you about that because this is causing all kinds of problems, because now

Donald Trump has responded in saying they should be executed. They should not be executed. However, I do believe this is seditious. And I'll explain the difference between treason and sedition here in just a second and show you how this is the Bubba effect. Just a different version of it in just a second. I'll take you through history. First, let me tell you about Jace Medical. We live in an age where everything seems instant. You know, meds filled the same day, clinics on every corner, delivery in about an hour.

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It's not any about the president, Donald Trump. This is something that no generation of American has ever seen, not in 250 years of constitutional history. A group of sitting members of Congress, senators and representatives went on camera and told active duty military personnel and the CIA to ignore orders of the president of the United States. They didn't whisper it.

They didn't couch it in a private memo. They released it in a video for the entire world to see. What message is that sending to the rest of the world? For the first time in American political history, members of the United States Congress openly encouraged the military to look at the commander-in-chief and say, no. Now, this does not happen in a constitutional republic. And it cannot happen in a nation that wants to remain one.

Now, you can say, and it's reasonable to say, well, this is just advice, right? It's a reminder that you don't follow illegal orders. Sounds reasonable until you look at history, because history has a merciless way of identifying patterns long before politicians will admit to them. In the entire American experiment, there are only a handful of moments. Anything like this has occurred. and every single one of those was a moment that was a prelude to national fracture. 1860 to 1861. It was the secession winter. Southern leaders encourage officers at the federal level and forts to abandon the union and pledge loyalty to the states. Not normal politics. This was the beginning of the rupture and then came Fort Sumter.

1870, reconstruction. Some states rejected federal authority outright. Sheriff's, malicious, even sometimes judges refused federal directives, but Congress itself, they never told the army to ignore the president. In Vietnam, members of Congress denounced the war, denounce Nixon, denounce Johnson, but no one ever told active duty troops disobey the commander in chief. It wasn't done. Because every generation, up until this one, understood something very basic. You cannot politicize the chain of command without breaking the Republic.

And once the military begins to decide on its own, which orders a legitimate, which one's, you know, which president they prefer, you no longer have civilian control. You no longer have a republic. You have factions inside an armed institution. And that is exactly how nations collapse. And every single one of those sitting representatives know it.

Turkey, Argentina, Spain, Egypt. Every single example, the pattern is always the same. Political parties begin encouraging the military to resist the other side, and the center completely collapses. And this is the part where you need to hear me clearly. What we saw here this week with this is not the Bubba effect where ordinary citizens lose trust in authority or rally behind the local guy.

No, no, no. This is something far more seditious and serious. This is the institutional Bubba effect where leaders inside the government with their own plan, the political class, begin urging Bubba in the military to take sides in domestic political disputes. That is a very, very bright line. The great unbroken line in American history, unbroken in our history. unbroken in our history. That line kept us from becoming

every other failed republic and now these people have stepped over it. Now let me take on Donald Trump. Is this treason? No. Treason has a very narrow definition. Thank God. It requires aiding an enemy

of the United States or levying war against the United States. So this is not treason in the strict constitutional sense. But here's the question. Isn't it something just as dangerous? Isn't it an attempt intentional or not to plant the idea inside the military that the president's orders are optional? Is it a test balloon? Is it a rehearsal?

Is it a way of saying when political sides disagree with the president and the military should stand with us? Or is it at the very best, just completely reckless and irresponsible political theater? that forgets the most sacred principle in American governance, the military does not take sides, period. Even if these lawmakers thought they were just, you know, recommending moral guidance, they believe they were just reminding the troops to refuse illegal orders. That's not your job.

That's the job of the generals and the job of Pete Hengseth. They do that in. every classroom, every time they're sworn in, they are told those words. That comes from within the ranks, not from political leadership. They told that they told the rest of the world that in the bloodstream of our republic now is questioning the president. And that is unprecedented. It's historic and impossible to remove because it breaks the guardrails. All right. Let me tell you about good ranchers. Meals are not just meals, their gatherings, their memories, their family members that you haven't seen in months.

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And thanks for standing with us. Now let's get to work. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're glad you're here. I want to talk to you today. Today's theme of today's show is the Bubba effect. Because it is here and we're seeing it at full force. I will show it to you in Dearborn, Michigan.

I will show it to you with Nick Fuentes. I will show it to you with Epstein. And I just showed it to you a, different kind of the bubba effect, institutional bubba effect with that statement that came out, you know, telling the troops to, you know, disown, you know, the president or don't, don't follow orders, question orders. And you should do that.

And that is something they're taught in the military, but they're taught within the system. You know, it's not just that they made a message to the military. They sent that message. Imagine if the Duma would have sent that. message to Putin and we received it and saw it we'd be like their government is falling apart their military is falling apart look at this what message is that sending to China and Russia and all of our allies it's bad very bad so there is a moment in every republic every empire every nation that historians will look back on and go yep

that was it that was the biggest warning that was the last warning and I think we are living in that moment right now. When Congress told active duty military to ignore the orders of the commander-in-chief, you got a problem. When you can't get a federal judge impeached because he approved something that has never been done in American history, granting one branch of the government the right to secretly surveil the other without notice. You have constitutionally, you must note. you're under surveillance.

Okay. If they're doing a mass thing, you have to notify because that's a second branch. Otherwise, you break up the branches. Okay. These are not political stories. These are constitutional earthquakes and no one's talking about them. So now the question is what now? What has to happen if the republic is going to survive the stress of these fractures that everybody

seems to be creating and dancing on? Let me outline it plainly here. because all of us have a role. One, Congress. Congress, you have to discipline your own. If lawmakers can publicly encourage military resistance without consequence, then Congress has surrendered its moral authority. You cannot police the executive branch.

You can't oversee the intelligence agencies. You can't demand transparency if you cannot police your own members. Censure is not vengeance. It's maintenance. It's routine. It's necessary. Constitutional maintenance. And if Congress refuses to do it, then the precedent remains.

And it gets worse. And history shows us no nation survives a politicized military, ever. Two, the military. You have to restate the chain of command publicly and immediately. The joint chiefs don't need a press conference. They don't need hearings. They just need to say the United States armed forces obey all lawful orders of the president. That sentence, those exact words, that's the firewall between an American Republic and every failed nation in history.

The silence so far is not reassuring. Three, the judiciary, especially the Supreme Court, closed the door on the Bozberg case. he opened a door that is so dangerous. No judge, no matter how noble his intentions, has the authority to rewrite the separation of powers. If one branch can secretly spy on another, then you have no checks and balances. You have a surveillance government. The Supreme Court must intervene, not Trump, not even Congress, but for the survival of co-equal branches. if they don't, this is the new normal.

And you don't come back from that one either. And now the hardest part, the one that everybody talks about, nobody does. The role of the cultural leaders and people like me in the media. In a functioning republic, this is supposed to be where the media steps in. This is where the cultural leaders, the voices left, right, center, stop obsessing over. clickbait and start explaining to the people what just happened, why it's unprecedented, why it matters, how we as citizens need to respond. But look around.

Do you see anyone in the press doing that? Do you see anyone in Hollywood doing that? You see anybody in academia doing that? No, you don't. Because America's cultural class no longer sees its role as the guardian of the republic. Who's the guardian? They're guardians of ideology. So what do we do?

Well, we do what Americans have always done when institutionals fail. We step in ourselves. But if we don't care, that's it. The founders never trusted the press. They trusted the people. So that's where we are now. And we all have to model what a responsible media or a responsible citizen should be doing. So let me show you, right?

now, how a responsible broadcaster responds to a constitutional breach. My fellow Americans, this is not about Donald Trump. This is not about Democrats. This is not about Republicans. It's not how you vote. This is about whether the military stays under civilian authority, whether our adversaries overseas are given the indication that we are ripe for the taking. This is about judges that want to erase the separation of powers.

The separation of power is what has kept this constitutional republic going for all of these years. Most importantly, this is about whether your children will inherit a functioning republic. And if the mainstream media won't tell you, then I will. That right there is the job. To preserve the republic. So our children and grandchildren, and that is what we all should be doing. That's what the press should be doing. That's what cultural figures should be doing.

You call out the violations of constitutional order. No matter who benefits, no matter who gets angry, no matter what tribe demands your silence, this is what leadership looks like. This is wrong. This has never been done before. This breaks constitutional boundaries. And it has to be corrected immediately. Americans.

You understand the Bubba effect is here and it's everywhere. You are going to see people that you're like, well, he's really wrong on that and that's really outrageous and I don't agree with that, but at least he's right on this one. And it will always be to question the system, to break it down. So what do you do? Well, you don't riot. You don't panic. You don't despair.

We are headed into thanks. giving. Give thanks for the crosses that we bear. Give thanks because our liberty, our freedom, should we decide to keep it, will be more valuable to us. But you should call your representatives. I'm so sick of calling my representatives, but you should do it anyway. You need to demand transparency. You need to insist on consequences. Don't normalize what is happening. Well, they're all like that. Stop it. Stop it. If that's what we're. what you expect, that is what you will get. But understand this, the cure for constitutional drift is not rage. The answer is not anger. It's not division. It is citizenship. It's also not

apathy. If we sleep through this, the system will break, guaranteed. But if you wake up, stand up, and insist on boundaries, eventually it will happen. I know you're tired. I know you don't want to do it anymore. I know you're just desperate for an answer because the time is running short, but now is not the time to act in in ways where we dishonor ourselves. In ways where we throw in with a lot, we're like, that's really bad. But at least they're pointing it out. You pointed out once you start standing up, once we as a people, all you need is 20%. 20% anywhere between 15 and 20% of the American people. If they understand the Constitution, if they understand the Bill of Rights,

if they understand that God has put us in this place at this time and each of us have a reason to live. We're here for a reason. Everything snaps back into place. It always has from 1800 to 1868 to 1974, institutions, bend, people break, but the Constitution can be restored. But if and only if you know it, you love it, you never betray it yourself, and you demand it of the people who represent us. Back in a minute.

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We'll be off for the week. You know, Black Friday, I don't think people really understand. Long before it meant long lines and shopping sales and everything else. In the 19th century, in the 1800s, do you know what Black Friday was? I don't. No. What was it? It was a warning. It was words used to describe financial panic and markets collapsing. It happened on Black Friday. Black Friday. Everything gold collapsed, silver collapsed. The dollar collapsed. Everything collapsed. Black Friday was meant to be danger. Then in the 1950s, it appeared to again, but it was a warning. It started with the Philadelphia police.

Department. The Philadelphia Police Department borrowed that term because they felt it was like societal collapse, the gridlock, the shoplifting, the crowds that would all turn out after Thanksgiving. It was such chaos. They didn't find anything festive about it. They were like, it's Black Friday. Okay. So it came from from Philadelphia, the disorder and the noise and the, I don't know, the cultural fever. However, Black Friday was actually, it actually happened because of FDR. I don't know if most people know this, but Thanksgiving wasn't fixed

on the fourth Tuesday of November. It was always held on the last Thursday of November. But in 1939, the depression was going on and all of these big companies were like, we've got to sell more product before Christmas. We need

more time. And so they appealed to FDR and they said move it to the floating Friday, move it to the Thursday, or the Thursday, so we have an extra week of sales before Thanksgiving. And so they pressured him to pull the country back into the black out of the red. It caused an uproar. For a while after he did it, most people didn't, most people didn't do it on the floating Friday, the last Friday.

They did it or the second to the last Thursday. They left it there at the first one. The people who celebrated it where we celebrate it now, they actually called it Franksgiving. Franklin Delano Roosevelt. They called it Franksgiving. Half the country was split. Some went with the president, others, and then finally we did it. Congress settled it in 1941. So Black Friday didn't just appear. You know, Thursday was, you know, it was a sacred holiday in America. And it was chained now calendar-wise to commerce and to shopping. And it was engineered by Washington. What began as a warning. And then as a double warning, wow, the crowds come out and it's getting crazy here in Philadelphia, now has just become this ritual that is Thanksgiving, just consumption, consumption, consumption. Isn't that amazing? Yeah, it kind of gets the original meaning a little bit of it.

A little bit. A little bit. I do like the day after Thanksgiving, I like thinking about, you know, you're moving on to Christmas. You know, yeah, sure, there's a lot of commerce, but I'm not anti-commerce. I know you're not either. No, neither am I. You know, but I think it's a, that's a fascinating. This happens a lot.

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So important. More in just a second. Today is Friday. And before we go on vacation for a week, I feel it's necessary to inform you on a couple of things that I see that we really need to be aware of. Last hour, I talked to you all about the Bubba effect and how that is playing everywhere now. And people don't recognize it. It is the Bubba effect that you're seeing everywhere, everywhere. And specifically, I spent a few minutes on that video that the Democrats released to our military and to our CIA. It is, it's not something you hang somebody for.

Donald Trump is wrong on that. But I do believe it is extraordinarily dangerous. And whether or not they go to jail, I mean, I don't know the law, so I don't know if they can go to jail or not on this. But Congress has to act. This was so immoral and so, um, Seditious. I do believe it was seditious against the United States and so hurtful to our stability here in the United States. What do you think China thought about that? All right. So that was last hour. This hour I want to talk to you about how misdirection is being used again to divide us. And it's dividing us because we don't know what the real issue is. We haven't figured it out. This week we've talked about Donald Trump and Epstein. We've talked about Larry Summers and Epstein. We've talked about.

You know, Jasmine Crockett and Epstein. And all of it really is just really stupid stuff, political name calling. Why? Why are we talking about this? Well, there's a couple of reasons, I think. And I'm not really sure which one it is. One, we're just stupid, and we like cakes and circus. That's it.

We just like the circus of it all. We like the spectacle. And so it's a game to us. And so we just play this game. I don't like that one. But it's possible. The second one is we're being manipulated with misdirection, and we have no idea we're being manipulated. And we're being manipulated in a way to where they give us this to argue about so we don't see the real issue.

Well, let me show you where I think the real issue on Epstein actually is. And how this one you can find out about and people will go to jail. If we focus. I'll do that here in just a second. I'll also going to take you to Minneapolis for a giant scandal there in a few minutes. First, let me tell you about Simply Safe. Most of us live under this quiet assumption that tomorrow is going to look just the same as today did. You know, routine, same schedule, same safe feeling.

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And I think it's the money. Okay? That's the real story. I'll tell you about the billions that have gone to terrorists from the U.S. and Minnesota taxpayers here in a second. And when I talk about that, what most people will do is they'll fight over ice. They'll say it's Islamophobia. They'll fight over care. Whatever.

USAID, when that went down. Well, that was just about feeding hungry children. And it's all misdirection to get you away from the money. So let me bring this now to Epstein. When a bank detects suspicious activity, when they see something that looks like money laundering, human trafficking, tax evasion, sending money overseas to terrorists,

they don't send a polite note to the supervisor in hope somebody reads it. They are required by federal law after 9-11 to file what is called a SAR. It's a suspicious activity report. SAR. They have to report that directly to the U.S. Treasury Department through FinCEN, financial center for crimes. Once a SAR is filed, the bank isn't even allowed to tell you that they filed it. They just hit send. It's locked. The treasury is notified. Now, this system, like I said,

was built after 9-11, built after decades of financial corruption, a system designed that no single banker, no single executive, no single billionaire can make illicit money and then have it just disappear offshore. This is, this is activated. If you draw $10,000 out of your account, you're moving $10,000, you get a SAR report and it goes directly to the Treasury. And when the bank flagged something suspicious, it's called, the SAR is called a yellow ticket. And it's not a suggestion. It's not a memo. It is a federal alert. That triggers monitoring by the Treasury, the FBI, Homeland Security, depending on what the flags indicate. Now you understand that. Let me talk to you about Jeffrey Epstein. Between 2002 and 2016, J.P. Morgan Chase filed

seven SARS, seven yellow tickets on Epstein. Seven over 14 years. Those reports flag a grand total of $4.3 million in sketchy activity. Okay. It's all, you know, it's a decade plus, $4 million. You can make all kinds of excuses for that, right? But after Epstein died, when the government finally unsealed the sex trafficking details, details that they had held on to for years, J.P. Morgan Chase suddenly panicked. because the floodgate suddenly opened.

In 2019, two SARS were flagged. Two SARS were sent to the Treasury. They flagged over 5,000 suspicious wire transfers. We're not talking $4 million. This is $1.3 billion. $5,000 suspicious activity transfers and transactions of $1.3 billion. Now, let me just say this clearly,

so nobody really misses the gravity of this. You do not accidentally forget to report 5,000 suspicious wires. You don't, like, where did we put that $1.3 billion? You don't misplace a billion dollars in wires to foreign banks and shell companies connected to then a convicted sex offender under federal investigation. It doesn't happen.

It doesn't happen. It doesn't happen because a junior banker made a mistake. It doesn't happen because the compliance officer was sleepy. It doesn't happen because somebody's inbox was full to not report that level of suspicious activities directly to the treasury. First of all, is against all federal law, at a minimum, multiple officers, multiple departments, multiple sign-offs, choosing not to look.

$1.3 billion, $5,000 suspicious activities. Hmm. Why? Why? Did nobody report that? Well, now, according to internal emails, J.P. Morgan Chase held off the filing of the SARS Now, do you, let me ask you this. If you had one suspicious, if you withdrew $10,000 from your bank, are you really clear that your bank would do what the federal government directs?

And I have to report this. And it's going to go to the Treasury. Are you clear that they would do that on you? Because the answer is, yes, they would. Federal law requires it. but the bank decided, well, we want to continue to work with Epstein. He's valuable. He's connected.

He's a referral engine to some of the richest people in the world. He had sensitivities, according to the bank. Wire transfers to Russian banks. Wire transfers to shell corporations. Wire transfers from a guy who is engaged in sex trafficking. links to top political figures, relationships with two U.S. presidents, both of whom Epstein at various times claimed to be very, very close with. Let me explain. There's something most people don't know. Banks file SARS suspicious activity reports to the Treasury for far less than this.

$10,000, they flag it. A business wires to an unusual location. They flag it. They flag it. it's sent to the treasury. A client sends repetitive round number transfers to an unknown entity. They flag it. It goes to the treasury. A wire connected to anything resembling terror or human trafficking or exploitation. They flag it right now. Banks don't wait for a 5,000 for 5,000 suspicious transactions.

They don't wait. They file over one. So how did Epstein get through five? thousand suspicious activity reports without triggering any alarms. Well, not because the alarms were broken because they weren't. It's because somebody turned them off. I'd like to know who turned those off. I'd like to know why they were turned off.

I would like to know if it was just the leadership of the bank. I'd like to know that every single one of those bank officers all the way to the top go to prison. not some slap on the wrist, not some, well, you're well connected, so we're going to let this other guy pay for it. I want all of them in prison. You broke federal law, something we all, all of us, have to abide by. We have had our treasury, we've had our government snoop into our lives, watch everything we do, and we're not connected to human trafficking. We're not selling children. We're not convicted felons. We're not transferring $1.3 billion after we've been convicted. SARS are not, these suspicious activity reports, they are not decided by a single teller.

They have to pass, they pass through compliance teams, risk divisions, bank lawyers, federal liaison officers. This isn't one bad apple. It's an entire system. and Senator Wyden, no conservative firebrand I might point out, is now openly saying what everybody knows privately, J.P. Morgan Chase should face criminal investigation. And it should go all the way to the top. And it should not be civil. It should be criminal.

Because if you or I did this, if we had sent just a handful of suspicious wires, the bank would freeze your account, notify the treasury before you could blink. But Jeffrey Epstein, A billion dollars worth of exceptions. Hmm. Wow, that seems much more important than a stupid birthday card.

Let me ask you this. The question the DOJ doesn't want to touch. How many people does it take inside a bank to make 5,000 suspicious transactions just vanish for 17 years? Is it five people? Is it 10? Is it a department head, a board member? 5,000. 1.3.

billion dollars was Epstein what did it happen because Epstein was useful to the powerful so nobody wanted to know did this happen because others were involved it does it really matter what their excuse was here's a terrifying question if a bank can look the other way on 1.3 billion dollars for a sex trafficker what else have the banks learned to ignore hmm I'm beginning to think the banks are a real problem. Hmm. There's a new idea. This story isn't just about Epstein.

This is about the machinery that allowed him to operate. All of the middleman, all of the financial networks, all of the institutions that treated him like an asset instead of a criminal. And I do believe he was an asset. Intelligence asset? I do believe he was probably an asset to our intelligence, although I hear both sides. No, no, that's not true. Oh, yes, it's definitely true. I don't know what the truth is. I don't think it's unreasonable to say he was an asset for a foreign government, maybe Israel,

maybe somebody else, I don't know, but also an asset for us. That happens all the time. Apparently, we do all kinds of horrible things. Why not? Senator Wyden says, he wants to follow the money. Well, good. For the first time in a long time. time, maybe the money is finally pointing us somewhere, and it's not just here. And by the way, if anybody still believes this ends with one dead man in jail, I don't think you're paying attention because this is where it really leads. And I'm going to show you, I'm going to show you the same kind of thing that is happening now in Minnesota.

The corruption in Minnesota is so far beyond comprehension. You know, I said in 2009, maybe 2010, the biggest heist in all of human history is happening right now. And the time that us boobs figure it out, our bank accounts will be empty. Nobody even knows the bank is being robbed. Why? Well, I think because the bank and maybe the treasury or, on it, or at least they're so incredibly incompetent that they just can't see it. Billions of dollars.

I believe trillions of dollars have been laundered. All your taxpayer money. I'll show you billions of it and what they just found out in Minnesota. Christopher Rufo broke this story. He's a new voice on the story. the Blaze TV. You should watch his show. I think it's on tonight. This is an amazing story. We're going to share his findings and tie it all together here in just a second. First, let me tell you about real estate agents I trust.com. When you decide to buy or sell a home, you're not just making

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10 seconds, state. So where are you on this Epstein thing in these yellow tickets? I mean, that's phenomenal. You're so picky. You know, you are the minutia that you will focus on 5,000 reports. Come on. I know. This just could easily have passed by with nobody noticing.

I'd be interested to hear, maybe you know this information. I don't. But I'd be interested to hear, like, what, how many of, are there other instances where this type of stuff happens or where they miss 5,000 of these reports? Like, is that a common thing? Is it just a really incompetent system? Or is there something more specific? I've seen it once before.

Okay. Oh, no. Hunter Biden. Gee. Seriously. Hunter Biden. They had Treasury. I don't think they had 5,000, but they had a lot completely ignored.

And that was government officials coming in and going, let's ignore that. Nothing to look into there. That's what happened there. What happened this time? Who stepped in? Stop at the banking? level, did it go higher than that? Man, our government is so unbelievably corrupt.

I think Donald Trump, it's really weird because I think Donald Trump understood what he was facing this time and could handle what he needed to do in 2016, but I don't think understood it deeply enough, didn't have the right people around him to do it. You know what I mean? And he comes in this time and he makes all of these huge moves and he's got it. but I think there's a deeper level to it that I'm not sure I'm not sure I don't know if anyone can do it if anyone if if he can't do it no one can but the the the corruption of our intel I believe our corruption inside of our justice department our banking system I I think this is just me conjecture I think years from now decades from now we will find out that our intel was actually working for the big banks. The Intel does not answer to Congress.

It doesn't answer to the president. It answers to the real money, the big banks of this country. They are tied in. I can't prove that. It's just a sense that I have. More than a minute and take you to Minnesota. This is Glenn Beck.

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By the way, I'm going to be on vacation, but Stu and Pat will be filling in for me next week. So they'll try not to, they'll try not to depress you. It's cakes and circuses all really next week. Do we have their theme song? Do we have? Yeah, there we go. Yes. Yes, we, 100%. We are going to try to provide the emptiest of calories all week as you lead to Thanksgiving. That's good. That's good. That's good. All right. Let me take you to Minnesota now.

I don't want to talk to you about politics or elections, culture wars, but something far far, more dangerous and more fundamental because the city journal has uncovered not a fraud scandal. This isn't waste. It's not inefficiency. This is a pipeline directly from your wallet. And this, what I'm about to tell you is all based on Ryan Thorpe and Christopher Rufo's reporting that is some of the best reporting I have seen. And this, this is crazy.

the largest single funder, the largest single funder of that pipeline today, from your wallet to a foreign terror group, according to multiple federal sources, is the taxpayer of the state of Minnesota. Let me repeat that because it's not a punchline. This is not hyperbole. This is not a claim thrown around on social media. According to federal counterterrorism sources,

quoted by the city journal, quote, the largest funder of al-Shabaab is the Minnesota taxpayer. What is al-Shabaab in case you don't remember? It is the East African branch of al-Qaeda. This is the same group that bombs hotels. They slaughter Christians. They massacre schoolchildren. They publicly behead those who defy their authority. And that, the major funder, is you in Minnesota.

and this is what happens when you mix a naive, wide open, no questions asked welfare machine with a political class terrified of being called a racist. And then a political class that's actually in on it as well. And then you throw in a media terrified of reporting anything that challenges progressive dogma. And then a community where clan networks and overseas loyalties operate underneath the radar of government because government's unwilling to look there. That is the perfect storm. That's Minnesota.

And it is drowning inside of that storm. Now, it started with a program called HSS, the Housing Stabilization Services. It was launched in 2020 to help people on the margins, the addicts, the elderly, the mentally ill, noble idea. But it was designed with everything a criminal enterprise, dreams of low barriers to entry minimal requirements for reimbursement billions in Medicaid dollars with almost zero verification now before the program even started bureaucrats estimated it might cost $2.6 million a year in four years it went from $2.6 to $21 million then the next year $42 million

The next year, $74 million to over $100 million every year. 2.6 to over $100. This year alone, 77 HSS providers have been terminated for credible allegations of fraud. 77. I don't know if you saw this. The acting attorney, the U.S. attorney said, quote, the vast majority of this program was fraudulent. not overbilling, not paperwork, no mistakes, fictitious companies, empty storefronts, ghost clients,

stacks of faked claims, six of the eight defendants indicated that they were members of the Minnesota Somali community. But this is the first ripple. There was another scheme, the $250 million mega scheme. That came from feeding our future. Feeding our future is a nonprofit. that went from $3 million to $200 million in federal food aid dollars. In two years, $3 million to a straight line up to $200 million

to help feed the hungry in Minnesota in two years. Wow. Fake meal accounts, fake attendance, fake invoices, dozens of defendants, primarily members of Minnesota-Somali community. Some of them bought luxury homes, fancy cars, properties in Kenya and Turkey. And when the state raised any kind of concern, the group sued, claiming racism. And then it was like, oh, I don't know what I would call that? The investigators were chastised.

The politicians stayed quiet. The media refuted, by the way, that's the governor you could have had as vice president right now. Everyone knew the rule. Don't question. You can't criticize. Okay. If you want to survive politically, no. So the cost, $250 million stolen right there hung on the backs of taxpayers who believe they were feeding hungry kids.

Now add on to that. So we got two scandals. Now add on to that, the autism scam. Days after those indictments, another scheme exploded. Autism services. A Somali woman already tied to feeding our future was charged with leading a $14 million Medicaid fraud ring. that was invented diagnosis. They bought parents with kickbacks. They created a network of fake autism centers. Autism spending in Minnesota jumped from $3 million to $399 million in just a couple of years. Providers ballooned from 41 providers to 328.

One in 16 Somalia four-year-olds were suddenly died. diagnosed. One in every 16 suddenly had autism. That's triple the state average. And nobody was, nobody's looking into that. What's happening in the Smalley community? This wasn't care. This wasn't treatment. This was a racket. And it wasn't isolated. Let me tell you what the U.S. attorney Joseph Thompson said. He said, these schemes form a web that has stolen billions of dollars. So why did nobody ask where that money went? Where'd the money go? You're not going to like the answer.

Somalia depends on remittances from abroad. $1.7 billion sent to Somalia last year alone. That is more money than the country's entire government budget. Imagine somebody sending us $6 trillion. That's what happened in Somalia. Investigators told Chris Rufo and the City Journal that welfare recipients in Minnesota were sending the money overseas called Hawala money transfer networks. They were moving tens of millions of dollars all the time.

And al-Shabaab, the terrorist organization, takes a cut of every dollar entering the Somali clan channels. One terrorism task force investigator said, every cent sent back to Somalia, benefits al-Shabaab in some way. It's not speculation. It's not theory. It's not conjecture. This is the conclusion of multiple federal investigators who have spent years tracking the money flow. They said Minnesota-Somali community runs a sophisticated money pipeline directly from the pockets of U.S. taxpayers directly to Somalia, where welfare dollars fraudgently obtained transferred to Somalia.

Al-Shabaab benefits every single time. And here's the part that should terrify everybody. They warn that if one terrorist attack can be traced back to these funds, the entire country will discover overnight that we were financing the very groups sworn to destroy us. A gang, you're going to find this in Epstein. You're going to find this we already did with USAID. You're going to find this everywhere. The greatest heist of human history,

The largest robbery of wealth has been happening right under our noses and we didn't even know the bank turned off the alarms. All of our wealth being transferred out. Why didn't Minnesota stop this? Why didn't the journalists investigate this? Why didn't the officials sound the alarm? Well, here's a reason. If you don't win the Somali community, you don't win Minneapolis. And if you don't win Minneapolis, you don't win the state.

that's it. You're going to say anything about it? Of course not. Of course you're not going to say a damn thing about it. Elon Omar's staff advocated for the very groups later charged with fraud. State officials were looking the other way. Democratic leadership refused audits, oversight, even any kind of scrutiny because the political cost of calling out fraud, if it incurred inside that Somali community, was considered higher

than the cost of losing billions of your dollars. So they let it grow. They let it metastasize. They let it intertwine with criminal and terrorist networks overseas. You're just an Islamophob. It's not about ethnicity. This is about a system that refuses to protect its own citizens. Enough is enough is enough.

Is every Somali-Missotan responsible? No, that's absurd. But ignoring the fact that organized fraud rings have emerged inside a specific, community that doesn't have loyalty many times to the United States of America when nobody would look into it. FBI, investigative journalist, nobody. That's not tolerance. It's negligence.

It's cowardice. And it has allowed billions of dollars meant for the poor in our nation, your hard-earned money, to become an international money laundering system that helps finance the second largest al-Qaeda franchise on planet earth. This is what happens when ideology replaces oversight. When equity replaces accountability. When fear of being labeled a racist overrides the responsibility to protect taxpayers or safeguard national security.

Minnesota didn't just mismanage welfare programs. It didn't just lose money. It didn't just fall asleep. It built through fear and. politics and denial, the perfect getaway through which billions of our dollars could pour from American safety net programs into overseas networks that feed support and expand the reach of violent jihadist organizations. Wow. I think it was the U.S. attorney. He said, should take your breath away. It does. It does. Now, here's the, here's, here's, here's,

here's the thing. I started talking to you today about the Bubba effect. Your seeing the Bubba effect happening now in Dearborn. You got a guy who's, you know, wrapping a Koran in bacon and all kinds of trouble is happening because it. And I don't know any common sense individual on either side of the aisle that think that's a good idea. Okay. But a lot of people, including me at times will go, yeah, well, look what he's saying, though. It's not about the bacon. It's not about the Koran. Look what he's saying. This is out of control and nobody's saying it. At least he's saying it. No, no, no, no. That's not. No. That's not. the Bubba effect. No, he's wrong in what he's doing. He's not necessarily wrong in what it

is highlighting. But we can't be part of the Bubba effect. Let's just highlight the real stuff. But people get so frustrated, it takes bacon and a Koran to make people pay attention, I guess. This is not a Minnesota story. This isn't even a story of Somalia. This is a story about USAID. This is a story about Epstein. This is a story, all of our money. And this is a story about silence and fear and institutional corruption and surrender. And unless we confront it honestly, unflinchingly, immediately with truth, we're all going to be poor. We will all end up being Somalia. Because in the end, every last dime that we have will be taken and shipped someplace else and used against us for our own demise.

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This is Glenn Beck. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I am in West Palm now, and I'm going to a big fundraiser at Marlago tonight for AFPI, America First Policy Institute. And I think I'm supposed to speak. I think the president's there. I don't even know. usually tell me in the car. Oh, Glenn, you have to give a 20 minutes speech. Okay. But I think I'm supposed to speak tonight. But it's, it's an amazing different world here, you know.

They have, I think between September and January, they have a hundred and ninety-five charity fundraisers in the city of West Palm. It's like, excuse me, what? And so now, you know, you find yourself going, yeah, he didn't want to come. I mean, he hates children. You know, these children won't have eyes because he didn't show up. And you're like, wait, but I do want children to have eyes. I just, 195 of them in three months. That's an awful lot of charity fundraisers. But it should be interesting. I'll tell you, I'll tell you next week when, after I've seen the president, how he's doing any messages.

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planes, trains, and automobiles is a tradition. We're going to watch it next week. You know, we watch the dog show after the Macy's Day parade. We have the dog show on as we're preparing, you know, Thanksgiving meal, et cetera, et cetera. Those things we do every year, but those are ornaments on a very, on a much older tree. At its core, Thanksgiving is the American holiday that is supposed to force us quietly, maybe stubbornly, to confront the truth of who we are and where we've been. Thanksgiving started with a small band of people that had every reason under the sun to curse the circumstances that they had found themselves in.

And they chose to give thanks instead. Half of them had died on the trip over, the pilgrims. Half of them died on the trip over. Then the first winter comes. They were woefully unprepared. They weren't ready. And what of the half that was left, half of those guys died in the first. winter. Spring comes. They go to work. They till, they learn, they plant, they reap, they stored.

And then, around this time of the year, after all that work was done, they stopped to recognize what happened to them. And they weren't celebrating abundance. They were celebrating survival. They were celebrating providence, that fragile flicker of hope that God had preserved them for some reason, unbeknownst to them, because certainly what they did didn't deserve that. And that's the real meaning of Thanksgiving. It's gratitude in the face of hardship. I think all of us have faced hardships. A lot of hardships recently.

A lot of woe, a lot of trouble. That's what this is about. Get your family together. If your family has been through hardship because you're split on whatever it is, stop all of that nonsense. Stop it. just say, hey, we've had hard times, all of us. We just wanted to get together and thank God that we're all still together.

Gratitude in the face of hardship, humility before blessings that you didn't earn. A recognition that freedom, true freedom, always costs something. And Thanksgiving reminds us that our country did not begin with triumph. It began with humility and thanks. is the one thing that calls us back to something older than politics, deeper than division. The idea that we are not held together by force, not by the government, not by the screens in our pockets, not by shared acknowledgement of our rights. Our lives and our liberties, they come from God. That's what brings us together.

Not kings, not presidents, not parties, but our shared rights. and the humility to be able to say, my gosh, what a miracle that is. And maybe the closest we get to that now in today's age is just the family gathered around the table. But even that is only the doorway. If we stop at the family around the table, we miss the whole point. Thanksgiving is the quiet confession that we are dependent on something much greater than ourselves. That America's strength begins not with the clenched fist, but the open hand lifted in gratitude.

This year, remember, it's not the meal, it's not the game, it's not the dog show. It's not all the traditions that mean so much to each of us. We've piled on top of all of that. This is ancient. This is a simple act of people pausing just for a moment to say, man, out of this whole year and all of the things that have happened, we have survived. Thank you, God. Thank you for everything.

Even the hard things. It's maybe especially the hard things. Thank you. Thank you. It has shaped us into the nation worth giving thanks for. That's Thanksgiving. That's America. And for that, I am grateful.

I am thankful. I'm also thankful for a good friend of mine who Dave I say is, he's the founder and president of StoryCorps. StoryCorps has preserved voices of the American story for the National Archives, and he has been with StoryCorps. He started at 20th anniversary of StoryCorps, I think was 2023. And he comes on from time to time, and he shares some of the stories. Welcome, Dave. How are you, sir?

Glenn, I'm doing great. It's great to hear your voice. Yeah, likewise. Likewise. Dave, you're going to share a story with us of gratitude and Thanksgiving. Do you want to set this up? Sure. And that intro was absolutely gorgeous, Glenn.

Thank you for that. Everything you said, 100% true. And we do have a true. Wait, wait, before you, you know what, while we're here, before we get in the story, I am so grateful for you. you have you are working so hard to get people to sit down with one another and just talk they disagree but just talk try to lessen divisions in our country and um thank you for that Dave how's that well you know thank thank you I mean you know I listen to you preaching this every day in between

the Jasmine Crockett talking about a Jeffrey Epstein and that was a great segment yesterday Glenn But you have a message that you're pounding your audience day in and day out. We have to love one another. We have to show each other grace. We have to love this country. We have to love each other. Or we have no future. And, you know, the Glenn Beck audience is the main conservative participant audience in this effort where we're putting strangers together across the divides to get to know each other as human beings, not to talk about politics.

And, I mean, it goes all the way to Michaela on your team, reaching out. out to my team to do an interview. I mean, it's just like part of the DNA of the show. And, you know, it is our patriotic duty to see the humanity and people with whom we may disagree. I mean, that goes to the heart of what you were just saying about Thanksgiving. And I'm so grateful for that. And we would love, we want every, you know, this is, we're here to talk about Thanksgiving, but every Glenn Beck listener, viewer, everybody in the community, when we see, when my team sees a Glenn Beck listener name come in to participate, they go right to the top of the list because they're the smartest most and you know this glen

your audience most thoughtful heartfelt nuanced you know human beings yeah i know you do i and you can hear that in the show every every single day so um people can go to take one small step dot org and um you know look it is unbelievably hard you know i got a text from a guy who um who is like the smartest person on polarization in the in the country earlier this year and he basically is like the time for the work is going to come let's keep aiming for the stars but it's going to be hard and it's going to get harder and harder and harder and harder but we will it's going to be it's going to be trench warfare but there is another story of an america and that other story is going to win and glan to have you as a brother in this thing and i do only come on occasionally but you know i think we

both feel pretty close to each other and we come from you know we came from different politics you know but the minute we made each other you know like brothers we care we're like brothers and 99% of things we agree you know so this is it's crazy we're living in an illusion you know 90% of the country are sane they're just like they're looking for a way out part of the exhausted majority and we have these like loud, nutty voices on the fringes that are driving us absolutely bonkers. And it's not going to end well if we can't figure out a way to get people to remember who we really are as Americans. And it's, you know, it's everything you just said. And, you know, and you say it over and over again, blessed are the peacemakers, you know, and that's your audience.

Yeah. Well, if you want to get involved, please, you don't, you go to take one small step.org, And that's just you sitting down with somebody and finding the common humanity. And it is a really, I mean, Michaela is still talking about it. She did it, what, two years ago? And she is still talking about what an amazing experience. Yeah, it was. Take One Small Step.org and they'll fill you in on everything. So, Dave, tell me the Thanksgiving message here.

Yeah. Okay. So we have a story for you. So this is from, you know, this is from not from one small step. This is from regular StoryCorps where we've had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Americans come together, you know, and really in many ways just to thank each other in these 40-minute conversations they have about who they are, what they care about, all everyday people, none of the nonsense, none of the BS, you know, fringe crazy stuff that we were just

talking about. So this is John Cruit and Cecil Doyle. In 1958, John Cruit's mom dies two days before Christmas. She's been seriously ill. He's in third grade. And his teacher, Cecil Doyle, is incredibly kind to him. And more than 50 years later, he decides he needs to write Mrs. Doyle a letter. So let's listen to John Cruit and Cecil Doyle. We talked about decorating the Christmas tree when I came home from school that day.

But I walked into the living room, and my aunt was there, and she said, well, honey, mommy passed away this morning. And I remember at my mother's wake, someone in my family came to me and said, Johnny, your teacher's here. When I found out she died, I could certainly relate to that because when I was 11, my own father died.

And you just don't know how you're going to go on without that person. When I returned to school, you waited until the other children left the room at the end of the day, and you told me that you were there if I needed you. When you bent over and kissed me on the head, it was really the only time someone said to me, I know what you're feeling and I know what you're missing. And I felt in a very real way that things really would be okay. Well, John, I really loved you as a student, and I'm so glad that I could be there with you for that time.

Many years later, when I became a teacher, I started to think more and more about you, and I started to think to myself, here I am with a memory of a teacher who changed my life. and I've never told her that. And that's why I finally wrote this letter. Dear Mrs. Doyle, if you are not the Cecil Doyle, who taught English at Emerson School in Kearney, New Jersey, then I'm embarrassed,

and you can disregard the sentiments that follow. My name is John Cruit, and I was in your third grade class during the 1958-1959 school year. Two days before Christmas, my mother passed away. And you told me that you were there if I needed you. I hope life has been as kind to you as you were to me. God bless you, always, with great fondness, John.

And your letter could not have come at a better time because my husband had Parkinson's, and he was going downhill, and I had just come home from the hospital, and I read this beautiful letter, and I just was overwhelmed. Well, the funny thing is, when I finally wrote to you again after 54 years, I typed a letter. I was afraid my penmanship wasn't going to meet your standards. Well, after all this time, Mrs. Doyle, all I can say to you is thank you.

John, what can I say? I'm just glad that we made a difference in each other's life. Dave, all of these things are being collected in there at the National Archives. A hundred years from now, what is the American story? What do you think they'll, when they listen to all these, what will they find? Easiest question, I'll get all, all you. year, you know, the facilitators, what they're going to find is the basic goodness of the American people, period. Every kind of person, every state, every occupation, every political persuasion,

you know, the people who listen to these interviews, who facilitate the interviews, who work for StoryCorps, the facilitators, you know, they all come back. And if you ask them what they've learned, it's a version of the end, frank quote, that people are basically good. So what they're going to hear is the good, you know, a lot of people often say to me, you know, if if Martians came down to earth, then they could only hear one thing, God, I hope they hear those story core interviews. Yeah. And it's really who, it's who we are. And, you know, we're living in a complete, you know, reality distortion zone in this kind of hate industrial complex. And it is, it's all a big lie.

It's a big lie. Dave, you should have, you should go to Elon Musk and have these story corps all put in to the algorithm of GROC. It might help the, it might help the algorithm understand who we really are. And I, you know, I want AI to like us. Yes, exactly.

I mean, look, I think AI would be much better with story core inside of it than without story core inside of it. So we are, we're thinking hard about that. Good. We're on the same wavelength, as always. And Glenn, I wish you and your family, a fantastic holiday.

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didn't mention football once thought that was I said the game didn't I say the game I thought it was fascinating Yeah. You, you. Yeah, it's for me. It's not a football game.

It's the dog show. It's for my family. It's just not me. Yeah. It's a dog show, yeah. So are you up, are you wearing the apron upstairs with a, with a nice little. I usually am the one setting the table. I usually am the one setting the table.

Yes, I am. That is the least surprising thing. Do you know the two teams that always play on Thanksgiving off the top of your head? Yeah, Army Navy. Yeah, okay. That's what I thought. It's the Dodgers. and the 76ers.

Yep, Dodgers and Seventh. What a historic battle. When they get together, you can just throw the record books out. Yeah. No, it's the Redskins and the Cowboys. Oh, my. You get one of those two teams are still a team. Who is it?

What is it? Cowboys and Lions, Glenn. Cowboys and Lions. Always play on this team. Cowboys in the Lions. That's what I said. The Cowboys and the... That was my mistake.

You take a lion, take his fur off. What is he? Redskin. I don't know if that's scientifically accurate. You thought I was talking about the old redskins. I wasn't. I was talking about the lions because the cowboys usually skin the lions, which they're not going to this year.

But that's a different story. Well, they don't play each other. They never play each other. They don't play each other. Which you of course knew. They never play each other. That's why it's not going to happen this year or any other year. Right.

That's the male Thanksgiving tradition you're thinking about. Those cute little poodles running up and down. My wife is with my son and the rest of the family. They're screaming at the television. And I'm like, okay, dinner is almost ready. I almost have the table set. Turn that down. What are we grateful for in this house?

What are you watching? Can we pay attention? I'm going to tell some history. stories here soon. Glenn. All right, Cozy Earth. Every year, we all try to find that one gift that actually matters, you know,

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because people felt like something that they held on to and cherished and loved was under attack. Was that the intent? Who are the people that made the decision? What have they done to reverse the decision? And quite honestly, I heard from the guy who picked me up at the airport. I heard from one of the guys who was handling the baggage at the airport. airport. He said, what are you here for? I said, I'm going to meet with the head of Cracker Barrow. And he said, give her hell. The driver said, I don't know what they were thinking, but tell him we

didn't like it. What you're going to hear in the podcast today is my conversation with two people. The CEO and the senior vice president, senior vice president was brought in to fix the problems. There are parts of it that are very uncomfortable. Parts of it. Parts of it. or that honestly the usual blah, blah, blah, PR stuff that you get. Well rehearsed, quite honestly, because the last time the CEO was on television, she was on ABC, Good Morning America. And it did not go well. This is her first television interview since.

I don't know if they thought I would go easy on them, but I didn't. But I'm anxious to hear your thoughts. especially if you're watching and not just listening because there is one moment that I think changed everything, at least for me. So that was the opening of the podcast, and you'll hear you can get that podcast, wherever you get your podcast starting tomorrow. It's on Blaze TV right now. You can watch it, and it's probably worth watching.

You'll probably get on YouTube too tomorrow. But it's really worth watching because of that one moment. I'm going to play that moment here for a second. but you know it's really important that you're not used and I'm giving you this advice because I want to because it's advice I give to myself

I mean when they called and said hey we would like Glenn to interview the CEO my first response was uh-huh why why out of all of the people could they would they go to me because they think I'm going to play softball with them because I'm not going to and you need to tell them I'm not going to.

So if they're looking for a puff piece, they're not getting one for me. In fact, it kind of pisses me off that that might be, you know, maybe what they're thinking. And so it only made that worse, if that's what their idea was.

But the reason why, and I found out, I found this out later, the reason why is because this audience is, they're big Cracker Barrel people. You know, people who like America, like Cracker Barrel,

like, you know, the history of America, you're more likely to pull into a cracker barrel. And they know they just screwed this up six ways to Sunday. And so they wanted to go to the people that, you know, like them already and want them to succeed, assuming that you want them to succeed still and stay in business. I do.

I just would like the people who, you know, did all the wrong things if they had ill intent, you know, to lose their jobs. Yesterday, somebody did lose their job. It was the DEI person. And, you know, in the interview, she kind of danced around DEI. She's like, well, we just really want everybody. But afterwards we heard, you know, you might want to keep your eye on the corporate board meetings

because there's, you know, maybe something will happen at the corporate board meeting that happened this week. And yesterday it was announced that they fired that guy. And he was a big responsibility on all of the DEI garbage that was happening at Cracker Barrow. I didn't know how I felt about the CEO. because I got a lot of rehearsed stuff. She does not like interviews. She was freaking out, you know. I mean, she's a big Fortune 500 CEO.

It takes a lot for a CEO of that stature to be uncomfortable. And she was very uncomfortable. And she relied on a lot of talking points. But there was this one point towards the end when I asked the question, are you surprised you still have a job? And I want you to listen to what she said. said. Here it is. Were you surprised you weren't fired?

Um, I feel like I've been fired by America. I bet you do. Yeah. Um. That's probably worse. Yeah, because it's, it's hard because again, all I've wanted to do is help people love this brand the way I love this brand, the way Doug loves this brand, the way everybody who works here.

I mean, the responsibility for the 70,000 people who work here, I bear that every single day. They are here to make a better lives for themselves, to take care of their families, to put a roof over their head, food on their table. And my job is to make sure that Cracker Barrel helps them do that. And it's not just those 70,000 people. They, like, Doug has four other people depending on him. They all are people depending on them. And that's why we're doing what we're doing, because this brand deserves to have another 50, 60 years. in front of it. We're trying to set it up for the future so that people, the stories are

here and they're told and people can come in and feel that. The feeling that you get here is so special. It's so unique and I'm talking about you personally. I want, I want, but my job is to keep, keep that, you know, protect that, you know. And I feel like people don't think I can do that sometimes. But my job is to invite them in and let them see that it's what they know and I mean, hopefully you feel that today, but. And maybe your listeners can feel that through you. I do feel this. The beginning of that answer, which is all that mattered to me, was the most genuine thing I have heard from somebody in your position in a very long time. I can see. I can see that it actually I can see in your eyes right now that hurt deeply personally I want people to

love this place you couldn't see it I'm so bummed because you couldn't see it and I was hoping you could she teared up at the beginning of it she teared up I feel like I was fired and then she laughed right away and then she teared up again at the end I just want people to like this place and it was so genuine. She was human. She was human. And I don't remember what the question was. After that, she said something. And then I said, can we go back to that for a second? Because you are genuine here. You're feeling. What are you feeling? And she said, oh, you know, I just, you know, it hurt. And then she looks up behind my head and she says, oh, look, it shoots and ladders. There were this box of games, old games behind me.

Oh, look, it shoots and ladders. I used to play shoots and ladders. And I stopped her. I said, why do you do this? Why are you doing this? And it was more of a personal thing to her. Why are you hiding this? That's what people want to see.

They want to see that you actually feel something inside. And she said, I'm not going to be the CEO that cries on television. And that changed me as well because I thought, I said to her, I said, my audience, I cry all the time. They don't have to think anything of that. And she said, I'm not going to be that person. What she meant was, I think, I'm not going to be that woman CEO that cries. She, that moment there at the end, and when I ask her if it hurt personally, you can, you can hear it in her voice.

I'd like to watch it on a bigger screen. I'm just watching it kind of on the size of a phone. I'd like to watch it because I could see it in her eyes. She had tears in her eyes when she said that. It just, I just want people to like this place. It was so sincere. So what happened here? She said, bad decisions, stupid moves, series of stupid things.

DEI people that were involved, shouldn't have been involved. And we just, we just lost the customer. They kept saying that over and over. We lost the customer. We lost, we were focusing on other things instead of listening to them. Now, there's something else, and this goes to don't be used. I've had people ask me, did you get paid for that interview? Of course not.

I don't do interviews like that. In fact, this interview, believe me, you have no idea what it costs to move my staff and everything to do stuff like this. I lost money on this interview. Fine. That's what we do. I just thought it was important because I, like you, felt like a little bit of America was at stake here. You know, like Coca-Cola was so American. to me and they just destroyed that for me.

I mean, it doesn't seem like America. Now, just a giant corporation doesn't reflect America. It's not an icon. Cracker Barrel still is, has a chance to be. So as I'm doing my homework on this, I'm reading about somebody else. Now, the CEO, full responsibility for everything. It happened in your watch, full responsibility. I think she's part of fixing it.

The person, DEI, the board member for the board members that hired that person, you have all the responsibility. They corrected that. got rid of him yesterday. There's one other thing. I didn't put up on my bingo card that I would be, you know, angry quote tweeted by steak and shake. You know, it was not on my bingo card for this year, but here we are.

What they said, one of the most authentic brands in America is run by somebody who doesn't respect or understand its customers. No one's buying what she's selling. Okay. Well, that, you know, that's fine. Seems a little personal because it is personal. You know, steak and shake. I've always heard was Maga, or actually at least Maha, you know, with a new beef tallow fries, which I think is great.

But what it turns out is what I wouldn't have known had I not done my homework is I was stepping into the center of a storm of what Forbes call a war for cracker barrel by an activist investor. Okay. This is really nasty stuff, at least what I can tell from the outside. Okay. the owner of Steak and Shake is putting out billboards red MAGA style hats that say Fire Cracker Barrel CEO. And Biglari, that's his name. It was right about everything. So who is he?

Well, you got to go to Forbes and look him up. He's an activist investor, steak and shake owner, who owns 54.5 million steak in Cracker Barrel. He made a 120-page presentation to Cracker Barrel shareholders in 2024. He said that the rebranding was folly. blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He pushed for board seats. He wanted to be chairman and just beat up the corporate establishment. Fine, you can do that.

But you look into him a little deeper and you realize, wow, this is what he does. He did this to Friendlies. He took out billboards near Friendly's headquarters with his business plan saying, enhance Friendlies. According to Forbes, quote, he was unsuccessful in his crusade for control of Friendlies, but cashed out his 15% ownership of the chain when it was required by a private equity firm in 2007

for $337 million equal to $15.50 per share, a 30% premium over its prior price. His unconventional tactics led to one of the ice cream chain's founders, Chris Blake, calling him a corporate raider. This guy from Steak and Shake seems to be a corporate raider. He goes in, he buys a bunch, gets on the board, he then causes internal strife or he exploits internal strife. He was, according to his own account,

countless Cracker Barrel customers have said they will not return until the CEO resigns. Why doesn't the CEO do the right thing for the company by resigning her presence is destroying Cracker Barrel's future? Thank you for your attention to this matter. Notice he's trying to quote tweet Donald Trump. You have to wonder, is he really worried about Cracker Barrel? in the way you or I were worried about cracker barrel. I mean,

the red hat may look like MAGA, but the message is nothing but corporate warfare. And I hate being used. I hate being played. I don't know because I don't know this guy, but everything, I'm reading through Forbes and others, you're like,

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It requires temperance. It requires doing a little bit of homework because bad actors are going to turn us into a mob for their own gain. And I do not want to be used for somebody else's gain. Be really careful on that. Eat it steak and shake, fine. Eat it Cracker Barrow fine. I don't really care. I mean, I know I like Cracker Barrel.

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and also the ability to correct anything that i might have said that was a mistake just want you to know the de i guy he was not fired he resigned and i want to make sure that that's very, very clear in this litigious society that I'm also very, very grateful for that we can correct. He resigned. All right, we will see you in a week. Pat and Stu filling in for me all next week. God bless.