The Glenn Beck Program - Trump Just Put China and the Deep State ON NOTICE | Guests: John Solomon & Spencer Klavan | 7/17/26

Episode Date: July 17, 2026

President Trump’s big address to the nation on election integrity aired last night and contained some shocking information regarding Chinese and deep state election interference. The corporate media, however, are fact-checking claims not even made by President Trump. Glenn breaks down the biggest concerns from Trump’s speech and calls out the media and the states standing in the way of securing our elections. Just the News CEO and editor in chief John Solomon joins to discuss what Trump revealed yesterday regarding Chinese election interference during the 2020 election and if justice will be served. Glenn analyzes a recent speech by Secretary of State Marco Rubio that exposes how radical the Left has become. Donald Kendal, director of the Heartland Institute Emerging Issues Center, joins to discuss the AI threat China poses to America and where we stand in the AI race. Glenn and Donald also discuss the controversy surrounding AI data centers. University of Austin classics professor Andrew Klavan joins to discuss the controversies surrounding the release of Christopher Nolan’s adaptation of “The Odyssey.” Glenn’s producer Rikki surprises him with a success story in which he played a direct role.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And I'm going to tell you what it all means, because this is wildly important. And it's not what the press says it is. What a shocker. Maybe they're still on the payroll for the Chinese. Oh, that's right. That's in one of the documents that they were paying journalists to foment hatred of this president in the the United States. The Chinese were doing it. Probably still are. But I digress. Let me start at the beginning here in 60 seconds. First, our sponsor, this half hour, is Patriot Mobile. Look, there comes a moment in the day, probably most days, where you kind of just want to chuck your phone into the trash. It'd be just so satisfying. But unfortunately, you kind of need the stupid thing. You know, to make your life more pleasant and easier. Uh-huh. And you pay for it every month, too.

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Okay, so the president never said last night that the election was stolen. He never said, last night that they had stolen the election or stuffed the ballot box or anything like that. What the president showed last night were documents that proved. China ran the largest known theft of American voter data in history. 220 million files. That's your name, your address, your phone number, your party affiliation, everything.

run through a dedicated exploitation unit in Beijing. They have a whole building for this, okay? Now, I want to give the fact checkers, you know, the first bonus point because on the nose, look at you, you can do some work. There is no evidence, none, that China reached into a voting machine and flipped a ballot or changed the outcome of 2020. But that wasn't the charge. The media is treating this story as if that's what the claim was, but that's the

not the claim. The outcome was never the frightening part here. There are two things that you need to know that were discussed last night. And I'm going to lay them out in the next 15 minutes. Okay. So just hold on with me. First point. According to the declassified material, a hostile foreign power known as China spent years assembling a file of 220 million American voters, names, addresses, phone numbers, party, everything, everything. The rhythm of when you show up and when you don't go out to vote. Important information. And the response that the media is giving you today is,

most of it's public anyway. You can buy all of that stuff. Okay. All right. Well, that's true. And it is precisely the opposite thing to find comforting. Any one fact on that list is harmless. Your address is not a weapon.

Your party registration is not a weapon. The weapon is the assembly. The 220 million profiles in the hands of one regime, the one regime on Earth that has already shown us in broad daylight what it does with information like that, with the algorithm. What does it do with that data? This is a country that tunes the recommendation engine on the phone in your kids' hands. By controlling what you or your family sees is power.

Now, nobody has proven they've used it that way, but that's their intent, at least according to our own intelligence, back in before 2020. You know, while they were saying, no, it's the safest election ever. You do not want to wait for a hostile power to fire the weapon before you admit it is a weapon. Why do you think we're over in Iran? We're over Iran because they cannot.

We're just using nuclear material for fuel. No, you're not. This is the same argument with China. Well, we're not using it for this. Oh, really? Okay, well, we'll just wait until you push that nuclear button. Here's the biggest thing for the media. This is information you could buy anywhere.

This is no big deal. Huh. Huh. Okay. All right. Let me ask you this. CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN. Then why?

At the very moment. are states all across the spectrum, red and blue alike, and you have been beating this drum for months. Why are they refusing to hand over the exact same voter data to their own federal government? Most of them told the Justice Department, no way. The courts backed them. You've been seeing the praises of these states on the grounds that that information is, too sensitive, too personal, and too easily abused, just to put it on the loose. I'm so tired of this. I really am. I mean, I'm just so tired of this game. You know, it's not a game

to most of us. This is not a game. This is our country. This is our lives. You cannot make the case that the United States government should not have the voter data from the states because it's too dangerous to give to our federal government and then in the next breath be on TV and say, you can buy this information just about anywhere. It's really no big deal that China has it. We're having a furious argument right now on whether Washington can be trusted with a voter file. While we're being told that Beijing holding that voter file is no big deal, it can't be both media. Make up your mind. Either the data is dangerous or it isn't. Half the nation is in the court right now arguing that it is and it's your half.

I'm sorry. I don't want to be one of these angry guys, but every day I come in with the intent of not being one of these angry guys and then I look at the nose. You want to understand why a pile of information, ordinary facts, terrifies people who study this for a living. Don't look at hackers. Forget about the hackers. look at East Germany. The Stasi remembered for surveillance, the files, the informants, one in every stairwell. People would whisper in their own homes.

Why? Because you could buy this information anywhere? No, it was because it was all being compiled. Once overt arrests started drawing too much attention in East Germany, the Stasi learned to break people quietly. How did they do it? They used intimate, aggregated knowledge in all of those files to reach into a target's life and just rearrange things. You just put a rumor with a neighbor, a marriage nudge towards collapse, a promotion that never comes for reasons that no one could ever name. The victims used, they normally didn't even know what was happening. They just thought,

I'm losing my mind. And none of it required any dramatic secret. It required knowing an ordinary person completely and just wanting to steer them. That's the capability on the table. Not that they went in and they changed the numbers of the vote, but because China is clearly amassing a file and let me give you, let me, let me just read it to you. from a declassified email. Also, mid-2018,

this is our intelligence, and they never told the president any of this. China was working to influence the results of the U.S. midterm elections and later results in the 2020 U.S. presidential elections. As part of the campaign, China was analyzing the 2016 presidential elections and identifying U.S. states that voted for the U.S. president. The Chinese would then,

identify sectors within these states that voted to support the U.S. president and his political party, then would attempt to make those sectors experience negative financial consequences. The Chinese hope that these measures would induce representatives from these sectors to lobby the president to be more kind to China. But what's worse is they had all of this information where they could take it and nudge you. This is what the algorithm is. This is why I say you're going to lose free will.

Because you won't know if that was your idea or if that was a nudge. And it's bad enough when I don't know if it was Google or Microsoft, but now you also have to worry that it might be China doing it. At the same time, all of a sudden we're seeing this popularity with communist. You'd think that China's algorithms don't have anything to do with this. You don't think they're running an influence campaign in our own country? Of course they are.

This was point number one. But that's not even the most important point. Let me tell you what this really should terrify every American. Stop listening to the media. Why this should bother every American, and I don't care who you voted for in 60 seconds. Let me tell you about burn a launcher. Did you ever have one of these nights when something just feels off? The house is quiet, your dog starts barking and not the playful bark, you know, kind of the low growl one.

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that the media will not tell you the media will dismiss is no big deal but I just showed you it is a big deal because they're arguing the opposite with the U.S. government one China ran the largest known theft of American data in history okay 220 million files names addresses phone numbers party affiliation when you vote when you don't vote all of this run through a dedicated exploitation unit in Beijing

that's problem number one I think this is the bigger problem problem number two the people inside our own intelligence community knew this discovered this wrote amongst themselves about it and then buried it while assuring us the elections were completely secure that's not a scandal That is a breach of trust that reaches the foundation of the republic. Okay? Nothing here, I want you to know, has been proven yet in a courtroom. But the documents are clear.

These allegations that are drawn from the documents, the White House declassified and released, the allegations, this is so serious, they have to be run all the way down to the ground because if they hold up in court, what they mean is terrifying. They mean the people who put their hand on the scriptures and swore to protect from all enemies, foreign and domestic, the Constitution of the United States. They decided, they decided that the elected leader of the people, of the free world, by extension you,

that person didn't need to know that a hostile power had a map of the American electorate. That's not incompetence. So you know, they know what that meant. It says it. They knew what they were doing and what it meant. That wasn't incompetence on the intelligence part. That was a decision. For an adversary spy, we should always accept that.

That's why we have a standing spy agency. They always have. The Republic was built to survive spies. What it was never built to survive is guardians who have then said, I'm no longer a guardian. I'm a gatekeeper of information. I get to decide what the elected president gets to see, what the people are allowed to see because I don't think they can handle it. Or they might react in a way, I don't think they should. Our constitution does not put the power like that into your hands. It puts it in elected hands, accountable hands,

It's not your hands. If they can sit on a foreign adversary's grab of voter rolls, the only honest question that any of us should be asking is what won't they do? What won't they do? We have example after example, Iran-Contra, we have Vietnam, but it's exactly the same instinct. The president doesn't need to know this. Let me ask you, Democrats, did you have a problem with Iran-Contra?

That was the intelligence community saying we didn't tell the president about these things. Now, you've always claimed that he did know. So the fault was really his. But what if he didn't know? And the fault was the intelligence. Would it still be such a big problem? Of course it would be. Of course it would be.

And that's what this is. Here's the worst part of this. In every case we have seen like this, never this. I don't think ever like this, never this big, never documented trail saying we're massaging the presidential report. We're making sure that we're holding this back. I've never seen that before, ever, ever. Remember all we had was, what was her name, Fawn Hall that says, yeah, I did that. We never had documents, but we had hearings and it eroded our faith.

And there was a conviction here or there and later pardon, later overturned, But there was no accountability for any of these things ever, ever. The machine just took the hit and then just kept running and it's still running. So may I suggest that maybe we look at things differently because what they've done here is not just unethical. It might be criminal obstruction of justice, obstruction or impeding an official proceeding or the president's constitutional duties. obstructing the president's constitutional duties. You'll find that in U.S. Code 18, 1505. Making false statements.

Did they misrepresent what they knew to the executive or to Congress? The answer is yes in their own writing. The answer is yes. Mishandling of classified material and the sworn duty to report a threat. Yep. coordinated to conceal. Yes, in their own writing, we have that. Now you're into a conspiracy.

This carries decades of prison time. Why do we have these laws? Why do we have these punishments if we never enforce them? Their entire oath is to guard the nation's secrets, brief our leaders, the betrayal. the betrayal here is stunning. And by the way, that wouldn't be a call for vengeance. That's a call for restoration to restore the republic and what it's supposed to do. If this can be proven, if these documents prove to be real,

if the people who did this don't answer for it, not to settle political score, but because a self-governing people cannot serve, survive being lied to by its own protectors, then everything is on the table. We must have prosecutions where the law demands them. Reforms with teeth. So no one ever again gets to decide what an existential threat to this country is. I got news for you.

Nothing is above the pay grade of the people who actually own this country. And by the way, that's you. Nothing is above your pay grade. Nothing is above the presidential pay grade. These people need to pay for what they have done. Not because I'm after them, but because it cannot happen again to any president. I don't care which party. No intelligence company or agency can keep information from the executive, from the president of the United States.

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He is the CEO of Just the News and editor-in-chief of Just the News. He is also an unpaid advisor to President Trump on this issue because he has been at the forefront of exposing and getting these things declassified. And so he knows the story better than anybody else. Welcome to the program. John, how are you? I'm great, Glenn. Great to be with you. Thanks for having me on.

Can you quickly explain your new role at the White House? What is it that you do? How do you separate that from news and journalism? That's a great question. So really, I'm just a journalist who got the chance to go to the White House and tell the White House which documents I've heard about that I've never been able to get through FOIA lawsuits or through my relationship with Tulsi Gabbard.

I had heard these things about China getting 220 million voter records, and I couldn't get them out of Tulsi Gabbitt before I left. And so at some point, the White House said, listen, why don't you just come here, work with the team of intelligence officers, tell them what you want, when they find it, and we'll declassify it, and you can go out and explain to the American public. So I have the sort of the same exact role that I do every day, other than I just have a shortcut to getting the documents that I think will benefit the entire country. Has that ever happened in history in America? I've never heard of that. I mean, that is... I don't think so. I have to

thanks the president. I hate the deal. Susie, Susie Wiles and the president decided this would be a good idea. By the way, it's built on a model. They didn't use a journalist at the time, but Barack Obama had a transparency office in the White House in 2015 and 16, and that's what I modeled up as my suggestion, and they have come back. So there's seven or eight career intelligence officers. I tell them what I've learned as a reporter. They go out and try to find it. If they find it, they say, we got something. Can't show you yet. We'll get it to classified. They take it over the White House. They get it classified. They send it to the intelligence. Is this accurate? Yep. Anything that you want redacted that, you know, sources of methods.

And then as a mere mortal, I finally get to look at it, and then I go out and try to tell the public what we found. Okay, April this year, you guys reported on the 2020 election meddling. We did. So what did we hear last night that was new? Anything? So, yeah, a lot. So in April, I had the benefit of something very small. I had a single document from Avril Haynes' team with two sentences saying, hey, we think China got access to photo files.

What did that mean? That sounds serious because I know we indicted Iranian hackers for getting access to just 100,000 voter files in 2020. So what's China been doing? Why don't we know about it? When those documents came back, I was floored. I was literally floored, Glenn, because what we learned was that China didn't have just some files, not 100,000 like Iran, 220 million. They had the holy grail of the voter list in America. And this shocked me because, for one, we indicted.

Iran for just 100,000. Two, the CIA had these documents saying if anyone ever got these voter files, here are the nefarious things they can do. Three, in 2024, Joe Biden got up and railed on China because China had hacked Great Britain's voter file database.

By the way, only 40 million files there, about a fifth of what was taken from America. And no one told the American public through this whole time, we were much larger victims. By the way, this is larger than the Equifax. leak of 2017, which was about 148 million Americans impacted 220 million. We were kept in the dark about something that in any other time would have been immediate alerted to the public.

So, John, I just said at the same time the media and half the states are saying we can't give the U.S. federal government access to voter data file. You're so right. Because it's too dangerous for the U.S. to have. The media today is on television. television saying it's no big deal. You could buy this stuff anywhere. So which is it, John? Which is it? It's a little bit of both. There are some states, though not all 50 states, but there are some states that you can buy the commercial versions of those databases. That commercial version doesn't have the holy grail stuff. It doesn't have some of the things. It doesn't have some things that you need to be fully read. So you'll know John Solomon votes in Virginia. By the way, I don't vote. But if I did, I'd be voting in Virginia. But you won't know some specific things like identifiers and driver's license. What China does is it takes, The commercial data first, and then it sends a hacking unit, and it's called the C&E, and then they go in and they hack into the databases and get the stuff that really you can register with. The stuff you buy commercially is just surface level, you know, sort of that John Solomon registered in Virginia.

That's all you know. When you get the voter file, it's entirety by hacking either commercial government or state voter databases, you're now in a position to make a ballot request for someone from China. So there are six things that the U.S. government said once China got access if they would be able to do one. They would vote in your name and you'd show up and I'd say, sorry, sir, you can't vote because you already voted and you're like, wait, I didn't vote. Remember how some people said that happened in 2020? I remember that coming on. The second thing that would happen is they could change a little bit of your voter file without you knowing.

You'd go in with your license and I'm at this street and say, no, sir, you can't vote because you're registered on this one. So you're going to have to do a provisional. We may or may not count it. The third thing they could do is go and take. your identity move you to another state you'll never know you're living in Virginia but you just got registered in Michigan in China will vote there for you'll never know you may never know you voted in another state and then they can do things by taking their other data hacks that they have on Americans and start targeting you for malign influence like there are very clear things

in these documents we released yesterday that no one's ever seen before the Chinese were uh telling their consulates target people with this messaging then they told their social media folks make it look like Donald Trump is a bad person, make it, try to foment racial strife on the streets. Now, I want to compare this, what these documents say to what Mark Warner was saying. Nothing happened from China. If you hacked 220 million voter files from us, if you're trying to foment racism and division on our streets, if you're trying to use your social media, if you're using blackmail,

by the way, they talked, China was gaining blackmail on U.S. officials so that they can embarrass them just before the election. If you're doing those things, you have intervened in our election. I don't care what any Democrat or some knucklehead on CNN is saying, those four things are thresholds that amount to interference in any common Americans mind. Okay. So I thought that there were two things that came out. One, that this is really important, this voter data, and they could just use it for algorithms to shape you on how you're going to vote. All the things you just said and shape you as well. And two, and this might have been a bigger thing, the cover up from our own intelligence agencies.

I mean, John, this is what happened in Vietnam to some degree. It's what happened with Iran-Contra in a way where everybody said, well, no, the president knew. Here we know the president didn't know. And it was a problem every time something like this has happened. And I can't, I think this is the most important violation of this, them keeping information vital from the president of the United States. I think is there anything here that is going to be so indisputable that you'll see an actual perploc? Yes, I do. I think it's possible. I think you'll see terminations first, right? And so the CIA is now reviewing everyone that was involved with a presidential daily briefing for which this information was withheld.

and you're seeing things here that you're showing up on the screen, it's so important. They basically are talking about deliberately massaging President Trump's database so he won't see the Chinese election interference of. There are people watching this that are pros in the intelligence community. They're not trying to cover it up, and they're writing back to this, like, it boggles the mind that we're going to keep this from the president.

Another FBI person who kept pulling back China intelligence interference reports and not letting the community see them so they can be investigated, wrote in her own text messages to her colleague, I'm running a shadow government. I'm running a shadow government to keep the president and others from learning about this. It is remarkable when you hear those sort of text messages, what was going on.

Other people writing, this is clearly politics. We should be telling the president. An NSA guy said, I'm alarmed that we're not telling the president, but I was too weak to stand up and object in the meeting. This was one of the widest secrets in the intelligence community. that some intelligence analysts use their power to keep the president in the dark about a 220 million voter data breach, about the vulnerability of machines and elections, about Venezuela's successful hack of a voter machine in a controlled environment,

not an election, but in a laboratory and setting. All of those things are things that are actionable, that a president and a Congress needs to know in real time. And we had analysts in the intelligence community who thought their political purposes were, more important than our national security. They didn't want Donald Trump to have this. They didn't want Donald Trump to make a China argument. So they shut off the spigot of information for what they're paid to provide the president. It's fraud. It is deceit. It is harmful to our national security. Talking to John Solomon, there seems to be some dots to connect between the investigation into the CCP billionaire Nivele Singham. Then Cuba's efforts to agitate in the U.S.

as Marco Rubio and the State Department's mission to crack down on violent far-left extremism, an amazing. Did you see that conference yesterday? Yeah, it was amazing. Amazing. And to disrupt their financial networks. Is there more to come on this? Am I, am I seeing dots that are not disconnected? I think you're seeing boulders coming down a hill picking up momentum. I think the FBI and the IRS are going to begin taking some really big actions against people that might have been conspying with foreign powers to harm American national security. There is evidence that I'm working on right now. By the way, as a reporter, not in my government job right now,

that there was contact going on between U.S. groups and foreign enemies, specifically related to the anti-ice and ice-out protest. Imagine that if anyone involved in that was conspiring with a foreign power to harm our United States. That's something we're looking at right now. Scott Besson came on my show a couple weeks ago to say, we are going to start pulling IRS tax exemptions and making people pay taxes for what they did, and they may be charged with fraud if they claim they were doing public good and instead they were doing public harm under a tax exemption. So the IRS, the FBI, the Homeland Security Investigations

Unit created a task force and they are cracking down and I think the first fruits of that are likely to be in the next month. We'll start to see actual activity. PURP walks, actions in court, IRS actions, and that is the beginning of a long haul because our country has been embedded with non-profits that are aligned with foreign enemies and that is something that is not a good security posture. When the president said in a tweet, what are the most terrifying and yet so satisfying? Tweets. I don't know, but within the last month, he said something along the lines of, you know, the communist are starting to come out everywhere and I've been waiting for this moment.

wait to see what's coming, it's going to be fun to watch. Yeah. Is this the beginning of this? I think that is what he's referring to, that we now are moving towards a body of evidence that Americans were working with our enemies to harm our country. I don't know what charge that will be. You can throw terms of like charges and sedition. I don't know yet, but I do believe that that's what everybody's working on.

That is a very, very important development in our country. And it's important for another reason. And Rasmussen, Scott Rasmussen, has a poll out today. 31% of Americans now think socialism is good and not even a majority think it's bad any longer. That is the most alarming statistic I've ever seen. What it means is the mainstream media have normalized what is the radical in America, and they're now convincing people that socialism is good. It has never been good in world history.

It has been repressive. It is bad at this moment. The joy that Venezuelans have today versus six months ago shows you what happens when people, people get a little freedom from the repression of socialism. Every economy that ever was socialist has failed. And yet Americans, a third of Americans nearly think this is a good thing. We have to nip that in the bud, stop that. And the way you stop it is by stopping the propagandists who pump that into our information system every day to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars a year.

I have about 40 seconds left. Let me just ask you this last question. In one of the documents released last night, the Chinese government sought to identify U.S. journalist who had reported negatively on the U.S. presidents and pay them to write more negative articles about him. Yep. Are we ever going to get to a place where we will see names? I've asked for that now.

The commission just asked for that task force. So if there are any journalist names that they've confirmed, I hope we'll be able to make them public sometime soon. Wow. John, Godspeed. Thank you so much for all your hard work. Good to be with you. Thank you.

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And the Republicans need, to understand. You cannot lecture the people about how good things are because they don't feel that way. You have to reflect their perception and change the perception by actually showing them a change of prices.

Look, gas prices are huge, and I know the president is kind of between a rock and a hard place on this, but that is a huge thing. And, you know, you get those gas prices down again to $3 a gas. and people are going to start to say, okay, things are getting better. But as that changes, you know, and then the, you know, here's the problem. The Marxists are talking a language that will go to the voters, okay?

The working class needs to feel heard. And this is the president's biggest challenge. He's been great at this. This is the language he speaks. But he needs to, you know, he needs to go on a construction. construction site and listen to construction workers a little bit. He needs to make sure that he is reflecting what the hardworking working class have said, who always been his base, that they feel heard, acknowledged, and that he's working for them. Anyway, he ended last night with

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Brand New Day In theaters July 31st Welcome to Friday It's the Gly line back program. I'll remind you that information is power. Knowledge is power. So let me fill you with some knowledge and information because that's the most powerful gift I can give you today so you can navigate through the world. You just missed hour number one if you're just joining us and we had John Solomon on, guy who has been working to expose what.

what's been going on with our intelligence agencies and China. He has special access to the White House. He talked to Susie Wiles at the White House that I'm not getting, I'm getting stonewalled. I'm getting stonewalled from the intelligence agencies. And there is, I hear rumors that they are these documents that are actually written someplace. And Susie talked to the president. The president said, bring John in.

And John went in and he said, what are you looking? for. And he said, well, I heard this and this and this, and here's what they would mean if they're true. And the president just said, okay, come on into the White House. I'll bring the intelligence people in. We'll find those documents. And if I can beclassify them, I will. And then you can look at him. Well, that's what started all of this last night in the speech. Now, Marco Rubio is attacking from a different direction, because this is the beginning of an attack. What happened last night is the beginning of an attack on the deep

state, a real attack on the deep state, but John says it's going to end in a perp walk, and the exposing of journalists that may have been taking money from China to make the president look bad, because that's in the classified documents, and it was

in the parts where an intelligence officer actually said, quote, I'm running a shadow government. by keeping this from our president. But we're going to get more information on that in the days to come, because what he revealed last night is not what the press is telling you,

and it was very important. But Rubio is taking now another road, another line of attack. And his opening speech at the ministerial on resurgence of political terrorism was one of the best speeches I've heard in a lot of, long time. I'm going to play just a little bit of it. And then I want to show you what's happening in our own country that is really kind of stemming from all of this. We'll start

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It has always been driven by a hatred, above all else, a hatred for civilization itself. It is a revolt of the worst against the best, a revolt of the weak and the cowardly against the strong and the good. It is perpetrated by those who cannot build, who cannot create, who cannot achieve great things, and take their revenge upon the world for their own inadequacy by seeking to destroy those who can.

This is what radical leftism is. It may wear various different slogans and ideologies across place and time. They can call themselves anti-capitalist or anti-imperialists or communist or anarchist or Marxist, but the fundamental character is always the same. It's always the same. It is a poisonous resentment cloaked in the language of equality and justice, liberation,

an overwhelming need to tear down what greater men have built to wreck what is beautiful and what is right on behalf of people who are only filled with ugliness and have nothing else to offer the world. Through violence and through terror, they once again seek to impose their ugliness on all of us. here's what people think you know when they think that um and i'm going to use the actual technical term communists those who are actual you know dsa from their own report proudly state that 51% of their board are self-acknowledged communist communism is a really terrifying thing um because it is it's legalized theft um and legalized um and legalized destruction they steal the the there are makers and there are takers in the world

that's all there is those two things makers and takers which one are you now when I say makers most people will say oh well that's like Elon Musk no you're a maker you're a maker you may not be the person that says I want to run my own business I got a plan I'm gonna build this empire that may not be you but you are making something every day you're making something of yourself you're making something of your family if you're trying to build a family you're a maker whether you're the dad who's working two jobs or a mom that's working two jobs or a stay-at-home mom or stay-at-home dad you

are a maker you believe in your family and you are building something big for the future and then there are those who want to take things from you you're working two jobs so you're paying taxes and these takers want to increase your taxes because they don't have they don't know how to make they don't care of about the family. They don't care about a making. They care about tearing down. This is what he's talking about when there's deep resentment for the people who do. And the problem with all of this is, you know, people think it's all compassion. Well, Jesus would, no, Jesus would not have been a communist. Jesus would not have been a socialist. He wouldn't have. He would be for, you know what,

give all of your riches away. But you give it away. way, not at the barrel of a gun, not because you have to. Nothing changes. This is the part that people miss about Christianity. Even Christians miss this. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if your heart doesn't change. I'm sorry. I know you can say with your mouth. I accept Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior, but if your heart doesn't change, I'm sorry, you can say whatever you want, and I don't know, and I could be wrong, but when you get up, I'd be really shocked if Somebody was like, oh, yeah, before I die, I'm with a prostitute right now. I'm actually raping that prostitute while I'm pillaging some other people and

I accept Jesus Christ of my Lord and Savior. I'm sorry, I don't think he's going to accept that. I really don't. I don't. But maybe it's me. Your heart has to change because that's the secret to all of it. when you have a government set up to take from those that make your heart is hard. I want it.

They don't deserve it. I deserve it. I'm going to take it. Instead of changing the heart of the people who have all of that money and they go, you know what, I just want to help. I want to help. And then the socialists or the communists always miss that we are the most charitable nation on earth.

they always miss that Carnegie, oh, this bad guy, Carnegie built libraries all over the country. And why did he do it? He didn't do it as a tax write off. He believed that everyone could be a king of their own kingdom, that you can build something, but not without a king's library. And so he took whatever was in the king's library at the time, the most important books. he said like I will I'll build the library I'll pay for it all put all the books in it you just build the library you just build the building I'll I'll put everything in it

and so we partnered with towns farm towns big towns all over the country to build all these libraries well where would we be if somebody hadn't done that and does that make him a good guy no does does the fact that he made money, make him a bad guy? No. But the thing is, if you don't change people's hearts, then the whole thing depends on somebody else being absolutely right all the time. And that can never go wrong. So once the system starts to fail, as it always does, then you have to have secret police. Because this way it always ends. KGB, East Germany, called their Zestazi.

The Stasi had one informant for every 63 East Germans, more surveillance per capita than any regime in human history. And here's what the deal. Stop people from saying the plan doesn't work. That's the thing. People notice when bread doesn't come. And so they start saying something. And so I got to stop them from saying it.

That's why the left does not. That's why they want to control the algorithm. That's why they want you to stop saying things. They want you to learn. No, there's consequences when you say things that we don't want you to say, because that's essential. And you've got to become militant about it, because eventually the plan doesn't work.

And so you have to have people that come in like the Stasi and silence those people. You know, when the wall came down in 1989, we found out what, East Germany actually looked like. We didn't know for sure. Per person, about a third as wealthy as the West Germans, they had been separated from for 40 years. Same language, same culture, same starting point in 1945. Only difference. One said it was right to take from the makers. And when the wall opened, people flowed one direction. They didn't go to East Germany. They all went to West Germany. This is what we're fighting. And this administration in Marco Rubio and last Last night, Donald Trump, they're getting serious about it. I mean, I told you yesterday, I did not think that Donald Trump would come out and be as harsh on China as he was. I mean, he named it. He said, there it is.

And who did it? The Chinese. Now, I don't know what that means. I wonder if they've had conversations yet, him and President Z. But I got to tell you, it was stronger than I expected. But I don't want you to listen to the media. I want you. No, I shouldn't say that.

I want you to listen to the media understanding what they're doing. They are trying to silence actual documents. They're trying to say those documents don't make any difference, and the people who are in with the media and the left will tell you you're a conspiracy theorist for believing them. I want you to listen to what they're saying. I want you to compare and contrast. I want you to read the documents yourself that the president put out last. night at whitehouse dot go read the documents because they make it very clear very clear

and then go ahead and listen to the media and see what they say about those documents you'll be able to decide you're smart enough to figure this out on your own you don't need me or anybody else to tell you just read what it actually says but they want you to shut up and let me give you a really good example of having to shut up what that leads to in Maine, there is Ashley Webb. She's an activist. She's a guy. Now, I'm not supposed to say that because there's a penalty attached to that. If I say she's actually a dude, there's a penalty because they need me to shut up. And that is just, it doesn't care about Ashley. It is about control over me and people who won't tow the line. It has nothing to do with Ashley. It has nothing to do with

Ashley Webb. But during the debate for candidates to replace Graham Platner, Ashley Webb is on, and this is what she said. This is why she's qualified to serve in the he is qualified to serve for the U.S. Senate. Listen. Ashley Webb, what qualifications do you have to serve in the U.S. Senate? Oh, I ran for office several times. Didn't win, but he didn't run. And then I'm a songwriter. And then I'm a songwriter. and then I write my own books and then I suppose my transparency I wouldn't lie to the people

and I wouldn't deceive the people like we're being deceived right now you have to see this video it's sad it really is truly sad it's truly sad it looks like an SLL you know an S&L sketch but they would S&L would never do this sketch

you know they can't see the they can't see the the absurdity in real life anymore but this would 20 years ago that would have been a sketch and the audience would have been roaring laugh because it's so absurd he's wearing a dress by the way and standing on the on the stage and you know what i applaud his courage i applaud his willingness to serve i i applaud his courage his courage but that's how insane things have gotten things are so insane that they have gone from a Nazi racist, a rapist, alleged, to, I mean, this guy might win.

I don't know who's going to win. I don't know who's going to win. It's so insane. If I, if there were any kind of data out that said Ashley Webb is the most electable, anybody and the Democrats who would say, this is ridiculous, today would be saying, That's the one I'm going to vote for. Because they can win. They can beat.

It's this horrible, twisted game. And I think what you and I have in common is we don't look at this as a game. This is our country. This is our children. This is our children's future. It is the future of freedom all around the world. If we blow this,

there's no other place to run. And it's not a game. And I think that's why you and I get so roped in. why we are so we get sometimes so angry about it because we actually care and it seems like so many people this is my biggest problem

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I could live with that person forever I just can't handle people who only get their news from one source like CNN and then they say that's it and then they they'll defend it to the and you can show them the proof that that's not what it is and their eyes glaze over and they just keep arguing that's that's where it becomes a game for so many people and in a sad game because it's hypnosis either that or it's a mental illness all right more in just a second let me tell you about our sponsor of this half hour it's the international fellowship of Christians and Jews when we talk about

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Donald Kendall is with me. Donald is a guy who has worked on two of my best-selling books, Dark Future and also The Great Reset. And so he knows what is going on, what the elites are planning, how they work, et cetera, et cetera. And we have talked extensively over the last five years about AI and ASI, an AGI, an AGI, and data centers. And he is as concerned as I am on the dark side of this.

But he is also coming out now. He's the director of the Glenn Haskins Emerging Issues Center at the Heartland Institute. And he has written many, many articles on the dangers of these data centers. but he is now coming out and he is also saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, we're in trouble if we don't have these data centers. So he just wrote a based on a report from OpenAI, suggest operatives likely based in China

have been using artificial intelligence to manipulate the American debates about AI development and public policy. And I find it interesting because Donald is not a guy that would go to Open AI for a report, but he's using open AI to make this point. So my first question, Donald, welcome to the program, is why are you allowing Open AI to lead this argument with you? Well, clearly, I'm being coerced by artificial intelligence. It knows me better than I know myself.

So it can push me in any direction. I know. You're a soft, you're a push. It easy pushover. I know you. Yeah. Let me just say, though, I've been working on AI, as you mentioned, for years now. And, you know, the first real AI conversation that I ever had that was kind of outside, just like science fiction movies, was with you in your office back in 2019 when we were actually working on arguing with socialist together.

So I actually kind of credit my whole kind of career path towards this issue to you. So, you know, there's that. We'll start off with that. All right. I hope you're right then. But yeah, so, you know, I, if you were to go through my backlog of articles, you'll definitely see that, you know, most of them are a little bit more critical of artificial intelligence, the power that's wielded by the institutions, you know, when they have this, this new tool

of artificial intelligence and just like the whole host of things that are made possible now by this emerging technology. And most of that just kind of comes with a skepticism about the, you know, powerful institutions, whether it's government, whether it's big corporations. I mean, I had so many, we've had so many conversations, the two of us of, you know, I don't want it in the hands of the government. I don't want it hands in the big, in the big tech, but those are the two choices that we have. And so you're just, you're left with a lot of bad choices. So let me go to the data centers, because that is that that is so critical. I believe Donald and I think you do too.

if we don't do electricity, if we don't get our power grid under control and really expand power and have the data centers, we will be the Mexico of the world in 25 years from now. China will control everything. That's exactly right. You know, I have bought into the debate that, you know, if we're not the forefront of this industry, than somebody else is going to be. You could have all the international agreements that you want to slow down the development of artificial intelligence to make sure that we're doing it properly and aligning it with the, you know, the principles that we think are important. You could even have China sign on to those international agreements and they will still work behind the scenes to push their, you know, supremacy on artificial intelligence.

So when I started seeing these reports and the opening. AI one is just one of them. There's a bunch of reports out there that are showing what we know, because we also worked on propaganda wars together, that this is a common tactic of foreign governments, foreign intelligence, is to sow seeds of discontent in other countries, in rival countries. So we've seen this with Russia with the Internet's research agency. We've seen this with China time and time again, dating back to like 2005, I believe, where they were just putting bot arms. on the internet to spread propaganda and make it seem like it's just a kind of a natural occurring thing. Also, there is a reports about different environmental groups, whether it's Sierra Club or 350.org, those sorts of things that are kind of pushing the same message, this anti-data center message, that was very reminiscent of the anti-fracking messages from just, I don't know, several years ago. So when all of these things were kind of coming out, it's like, you know, I could be a skeptical is the next person when it comes to the power of artificial intelligence in the hands of the United States government or, you know, these big corporate, you know, whatever, these giant corporations, international corporations that we know not to necessarily trust because of our days with the big tech censorship of social media or the, you know, the days of ESG, all of that sort of thing. But then I look at it and I say, you know, I feel like we can, you know, in the same way that Elon Musk was able to kind of change the debate when it can.

came to the, you know, objectivity of social media platforms, I feel like there is a pathway for that sort of, you know, getting that conservative voice out there and really pushing for constitutional principles when it comes to AI alignment. I don't think we're going to have as much luck with that when it comes to artificial artificial intelligence in China. And we know some of these models in China, whether it's Deepseek or Kimmy, you know, a lot of these very specifically do not criticize the CCP. They do not criticize Xi Jinping. They're,

you know, there is twisted and ideological bias that you could possibly imagine. And we're seeing that companies in the United States, because those models run slightly cheaper than U.S. models are actually starting to use

those in their systems. So this is the fear that I have. So, so, Don, let me, let me go back again to the data centers. I have been saying since we've since we met and before we met, but I remember talking to you about this, you know, in that meeting that I have been concerned forever about what I say is the loss of free will. Yes.

Not that you can't choose. You won't know if you have been manipulated into making that choice or if it was actually your original idea. This was the whole point of the president's speech last night. Not that they stole the election that they are. manipulating or can manipulate because they have so much information on the individual. And I look at these people. I was having this conversation with my son. He said, dad, I agree with a lot.

A lot of these people are, we passed a, you know, marchers on this against the data center. And he said, dad, I agree with a lot of the things they say. And I said, son, so do I. But how many of them understand that there's a good shot that they were manipulated into thinking these things? or being used as useful idiots by the algorithm in China. There are legitimate questions that have to be asked. But a lot of this real deep anti-data center stuff,

it is coming from China. How do you know the difference? How, I mean, how should people be aware of this? Yeah, well, it's an incredibly tough question to ask, especially in this day and age with the speed of the, how information is disseminated across the internet, social media, that sort of thing. So it's really hard to tell who's even getting their talking points from where, that sort of thing. But, you know, I love, you know, the more heady conversations about artificial intelligence that we have, you know, the idea that like, are you really making your own choices?

You know, did you decide to have, you know, Cheerios in the morning? Or was that just a, you know, artificial intelligence constructed sciop? those sorts of things when it comes to what the, you know, what the implications of that are when it comes to free will. Those are the conversations that I want to be writing about. And I'll admit that when it comes to some of the data center stuff, you know,

because I kind of looked at these things as kind of hand in hand, you know, I kind of bought into it a little bit, you know, whether it was the water usage or the electricity usage driving up rates for people. Those were, you know, pretty concerning to me. But then we were looking into it. We wanted to do stuff

about water usage and you know, my team and people that we that we partner with, we're like, yeah, you know, there's, there's not really a whole lot there. You know, there's some specific instances, but, you know, it seems to be something that they're kind of mitigating now as they innovate. And then when it comes to the energy, when it comes to energy, it's like, I feel like we're playing into the hands of the kind of net zero brigade that's been pushing to offline, reliable energy for a while where it's like, oh, look, we don't have enough energy for

these data centers. It's like, well, whose fault is that? So that's my concern. And I've been saying, you know, when talking about this issue, that I'm hoping that this AI revolution coincides with an American energy revolution. Because that I don't think that we should offline powerful technology just because, you know, Bernie Sanders and crew offlineed our reliable energy for the past couple of decades. And so those go ahead. So those are like the kind of the main issues that surround the data centers that I just like that aren't, don't appeal to me. me quite as much as those more heady subjects that you and I discuss.

Right. But I think those, those, uh, questions are what the average person are at right now. And what, you know, I, I think we, we have to find a way to convince people that they have all the power they literally all the power they need. If these, these, uh, companies want the data centers and they do want them desperately. Um, if they want them, great. That is the best place to be, when you're negotiating. No, you want them great. You're going to offset any kind of cost that my power company has to make because now we need new infrastructure.

Plus, you're creating all of the energy and you're going to put, let's say, 10 or 20% of the energy you create back into the grid so my energy prices go down. You can negotiate these things right now. But you have in New York, you know, when New York says, and there's other states and you talk about it, there are other states that are saying, you know, we're banning all of these data centers. That's insanity. Isn't it, Donald? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

And that's another thing that kind of started pushing me into this direction was the, the actions of Bernie Sanders and crew, whether it was the data center moratoriums, that was just going to shut it down, shut down construction, basically indefinitely. They kind of had a time horizon, like, oh, we're going to shut it down until we can figure out this unfigur-outable thing. So that was a concern to me. And then when Bernie Sanders came out talking about wanting to navigate. nationalize 50% of the AI companies and basically load the boards with bureaucrats, hand-selected, you know, bureaucrats on the board of these things.

That was more concerning to me than some of the things that we talk about when it comes to AI and data centers. So that's that is a that is a big issue. I mean, there has been a sizable impact by these activists, you know, movements against data centers. There's been moratoriums passed in certain states and certain localities. There has been a, a, uh, a, a delay in billions of dollars of AI infrastructure build out because of some of these groups that are connected with, you know, people that have been constantly on the wrong side of the issues that we've talked about for decades, whether that's, you know, Bernie Sanders that I already mentioned or that, you know, Neville Singham, which seems to be a Chinese, you know, a lied activist group that or a, you know, person that that activates all these different groups across the country, usually for environmental reasons. So all of the. of these things just kind of like make me think, hmm, maybe, uh, maybe we're playing right into China's hands. And we actually kind of see this now. There on top of all the reports that we're talking about, there are reports, um, that

show that American companies are, are increasingly using Chinese models to run their infrastructure. So if that's the trend that we're, that we're heading towards, we obviously know China wants to be AI, uh, supreme. They want to, they want to have supremacy in the AI industry. And if we are going to stunt our development of artificial intelligence, we're just playing right into their hands. And now we've got a society and industry that is just dependent on these AI models that are being developed in China. So this, for all the concerns that we have, and I will say that there are so many justified concerns when it comes to artificial intelligence.

I'm not going to back down off of that point. But if we're going to move towards a. you know, where China is dictating kind of the underlying infrastructure of our society. That is a recipe for absolute disaster. Yeah, suicidal. Donald, thank you so much for being on with. We'll talk again, and maybe we'll have a deeper conversation next time. Oh, that would be amazing.

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Odysseus. Adidas. Telemachus. Penelope. Penelope. And Helen of Troy. Odyssey. After the Elliot.

Hidden no horse. Won the war. Yeah, I'm serious. Odyssey. Odyssey. Edching for Ithaca. Get past the Peloponnesian Peninsula. Odyssey.

Oeditary. Mediterranean. Psychato cyclope. And crater his cranium. Circe is cursing them. Men into bicking bits. Gotta go. On the road.

Head to where Hades is. Odysius. Adet. Tilema. Penelope and Helen of Chor You could be Homer The way we go over

The story in six feet Pull it examiner Call it whatever So long as this beat Sounds on silence I can't take it anymore Honestly It looks

All you have to say is Odyssey One of the greatest writers directors of our age is trying it And then Put a clause Hollywood

Into the contracts of all these actors That they have to shut their pie hole Shut it Shut your mouth mouth. Just, hey, Chris Rennelan's got a new movie. It's called The Odyssey. Go see it this weekend.

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I love great stories. And then it started slow down when we started, when movies really started to suck. And they started to lecture us. And then COVID changed everything. And now my wife and I, we maybe go see a movie every couple of months, maybe if we're lucky.

You know, when I say lucky, like there's something out that I actually want to see. There's a movie out. called The Odyssey. And I really want to see it if they could shut the actors up. And I give this advice to you, Hollywood, for free. Put a clause in your contract. We're going to pay you all kinds of money to work for a few weeks.

And then we're going to put you in, you know, up on a big screen and we're going to make you very, very famous. Here's what you have to do. You have to act. You have to work hard. You have to show up. And then you have to shut. your mouth until the movie is out and it's already played out. Then you can talk about any kind of political stuff you want. Just shut up. Because, I mean, just listening to these clowns. And I have

to tell you, I don't think that Christopher Nolan is the kind of guy that's going to take one of the greatest stories ever and wreck it. I mean, I want to see it because it's Christopher Nolan. He's one of the greatest storytellers and film of our day. And I can't imagine that he's gone all woke on The Odyssey, but listening to the actors. Oh, you know what? You know, Homer really didn't have it down with women. What are you even talking about? Do you know the story?

Do you know what it's about? You know, the one he left behind that was there running the kingdom, being strong, tricking all the guy all of that that's not a strong woman anyway uh i'm not the guy to talk to on this spencer claven spencer claven uh is the guy to talk to about this uh he is the clermount review of books associate editor he is also the university of austin's classics professor uh and can speak of the speak of the odyssey with some intelligence unlike me so uh andrew joins us here in just 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour. It's Patriot Mobile. Getting tired of being told, you know, you're what's wrong with America. I'm tired of corporations

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Make the switch today. Spencer, how are you, sir? I'm doing great. It's great to be with you. It's good to be you. Good to be with you. I have to tell you, I remember reading The Odyssey when I think I was in high school, and I just thought it was just a boar fest

and couldn't get through it. This is one of the greatest stories of all. I mean, you know, this is a, I love this. I remember I read, uh, Wuthering Heights at one point as an adult. And I read it and I'm like, that is actually a boring book. I have to tell you. Oh, really? That one is actually boring.

I don't know. Did you like it? Oh, no. I did. I liked it. And I thought, all right. Maybe I shouldn't read it. Yeah, there's something about these classics.

You know, discovery. You know, here I am a 30-year-old guy going, you know, people should read more classics. There's something to them. classic. Yeah, they're classics for a reason. You don't say. Anyway, yeah, the Odyssey is like that, um,

uh, where it is such a great story. Can you start with what the story is? Yeah. I'm really happy to do that. And it's easy on one level. It's a story about a guy going home. Odysseus is a warrior and a king. He's the king of Ithaca.

He's been fighting in Troy for 10 years. That's the prequel, the Iliad, if you like. And this is a warrior. the sequel to the Iliad where he tries to make his way home, but for a whole bunch of reasons, including the wrath of the gods and all sorts of other mythological mishaps along the way, he can't get back. And when he arrives back, finally he discovers that a pack of weasels and snakes, a bunch of suitors, have taken over his palace, and he has to wreak vengeance upon them

to gain his queen back, Penelope, who's been waiting for. for him all that time, all those 20 years that he's been gone. And he, one of the reasons he doesn't come back is because, uh, because everybody died, uh, that he was that was under his command. And so he's kind of feeling bad about that or do I have that right or wrong? Well, some close. So people, all of his men die along the way as part of this tormented journey. But you're getting at another layer of the story, which.

is once you tell the kind of beginning, middle end plot of it, you get to dig deeper into these incredible layers, including, yeah, why is it that this guy can't make it home? And what does it mean to come home after 10 years of war? What does it take to rediscover yourself and reflect on the experience of being a soldier having to do savage, brutal deeds, and then go back and become a husband and a family guy and a dad out back in the yard with a beer? So there's definitely that going on as well. And these big questions of leadership that you raised. I don't remember the hammock with the beer in the story, but maybe I missed something.

Sorry, wine. They're Greek, so it's wine. But yeah, close enough. Okay, so the other thing, and please correct me if I'm wrong, because I most likely am. But his son is angry with him, right? And his wife doesn't right. Well, everyone's got a lot of feelings. Right.

I would say, Glenn, everyone's got a lot of feelings. His son, Telemachus, is, he's one of the first ever coming of age stories that we have in Western literature. And this is how the poem starts, which may be why you were bored by it. It's possible that you got to this poem and you were like, ah, there's dragons and monsters and witches and gods. And then the first thing that happens is we sit around in Ithaca with this kid who's kind of not sure about what he's. wants to do with his life and he's fatherless. So he's trying to gain a certain amount of manhood and maturity. Penelope, meanwhile, yeah, is waiting for Odysseus.

She's a famous model of devotion, but she's also human. And everyone in this poem is beautifully human. So she is trying to stave off the suitors with this famous trick of weaving and unweaving a burial shroud. And then she's also, yeah, this very beautiful. symbol of how she's a match for him because he's famous for his matus, his cunning, and his intelligence, basically. She has that same amount of deceitfulness, but also wiles and smarts. And when they finally meet, he's in disguise. She's not sure what to believe. She's not ready even to let go

of her defensiveness and neither is he. And they have this gorgeous reconciliation scene where she practically melts into his arms when he finally proves that he knows the secret of their marriage, which is that their bed is carved out of a tree that she asked him to move and he says, no, I can. So there's this, there are all of these moments that are really cinematic and offer a great kind of palette for a director like Nolan to work with. There's also a lot of wordplay and kind of the plot on purpose twists around. The word that Homer uses at the beginning for Odysseus is he's polytrapas, he's many weighed, he has many ways and wanderings and the plot itself loops back over onto itself. So there's also stuff that maybe if you're coming

to it for the first time, you're like, I thought this was about a king and a queen, and now I'm kind of wandering about and Pilas and Sparta with all these random characters. But what I would say, if you're getting into reading it for the first time, is like, bear with him for the first four books. There are 24 books. There are 24 books or chapters of the poem. And just keep an eye on Homer's great theme, which is the man. He begins the poem. Andromoy and Enape Musa singed to me of a man muse. And the whole thing is about who is this guy? And if you think about it as a kind of identity tale and a homecoming tale, and you keep an eye on the character of Odysseus, you find just like endless stuff that reveals

itself with more and more rereading. It has high replay value, as they say, of video games. Okay, so Christopher Nolan, forget everything he just said because I think we just made this sound really boring. Christopher Nolan, if you're going to go see a movie, Christopher Nolan, and I don't know if you feel this way, I think he's one of the better storytellers of our age. Oh, he's so good. No question. He's so good. And there is, you've seen the movie. So please tell me he didn't wreck it by putting a bunch of crap and woke crap in it. He just told a great story. He did not wreck it. I'm totally ready to just say, this is a good movie. Now, there's a lot of footnotes and stuff that we can get into talking about. But just the bottom line is the thing we were afraid of, which is completely reasonable and understandable. I was listening to you talking about how dumb actors are when they open their mouths. And boy, I want to co-s out. Like, just the, I'm so in for this rider, the shut up and sing, the shut up and act run. Right. That you want to put in contracts completely. They've done so much damage to people. to people who are already fed up and understandably, right?

Because, like, I always think about Rachel Ziegler in Snow White, this disastrous Disney remake. And, you know, Zegler, Snow White is famously very, very white. Zegler is not all that white. So people were kind of raising their eyebrows at that. But more than that, and much more importantly, she doesn't like the source material. She was giving these interviews saying, oh, it's misogynist and it doesn't like women in power. and it's all about keeping women down. So that combined with the fact that these racial recastings only ever go in one direction

and you're kind of ashamed for noticing this, right? I think that's driven people a little bit crazy. And I understand that now whenever somebody does this, they think, oh, no, here we go again. And with the Odyssey, which is such an incredible work of art and such a foundational work of Western literature, It's a very tender source spot, right? Like, you're going to take this thing and you're just going to drag it through the muck and you're going to tell me that it's evil and you're going to give me your stupid modern take on it. So I think that's what people are worried about.

And I think that that got blown a little bit out of proportion because Nolan is not doing that at all in this movie. He makes some changes to the source material you can like or not like, but none of them is designed to undermine the poem or to tell you you're wrong and racist for like. It's the actors who kind of mouthed off and it's the controversy that got kicked up around the poem. That stuff, you know, Lupita Nongo, who is one of the people that talked about, Homer doesn't like women or whatever, you know, she's a great actress and she gives a really interesting performance in this. And she's really, her part is really like a vanishingly small part of the movie, as are a lot of the other things that people got upset and mad about.

And Nolan really does, which not a lot of directors have done. He really does put the story on screen. He gives you Matt Damon as the smartest soldier around tormented guy making his way back home. And he gives you Anne Hathaway and the best performance I've ever seen her give. She's good. Unlike a lot of other Penelope's that have been on screen, she really does want Odysseus back. She loves him. She's of course conflicted.

She's confused in pain. But she passionately loves him and is waiting for him. And it's just a very moving story. So I don't know. I think Nolan does a really great job. The book is better because the book's always better than the movie. But that's something that, you know, you can kind of talk about when you see the movie. The woke takeover stuff is what everyone was really afraid of.

And that just doesn't happen. It's just not in this movie, which is great. Yeah. You know, one of my favorite poets, you're going to lose a lot of respect for me. It's Dr. Seuss. No. One of my favorite poets is Edgar. and Poe and and his you like him because I just read something that said

most people you know especially in that era all of the critics all of the other poets except for a few over in England they all thought he was trash oh pooh this is snobbery this is just sheer people like Ed Gerell and Poe and that's why critics look down on them I think I mean they think of it as trash or or entertainment and because it's fun, you know, because it's exciting and people like it, then they'd say, oh, he's not really a great poet. He's not a sophisticated literary artist. There are sophisticated great poets who are difficult to understand, but Poe is incredible and he's a beautiful word to. So is Dr. Seuss, by the way, a genius. Yeah, no, I know. It's impossible to do

what Dr. Seuss does. Anyway, yes. Okay, so Poe. Okay. Can you tell me there is, while we're here on ancient culture, except for the Po thing, AI is now helping us unroll ancient scrolls that we haven't had access to. Do you know anything about this? Can you talk to me about this and what's happening and what we're finding? I love this story. So this is like, I'm not used to people being interested in things that I'm passionate about because I'm a classicist. So the fact that there's this big movie about the Odyssey and this major AI story about

classics. Oh, no, you're nerding out. This is your weekend. I'm just, this is my like, this is my moment. I am just like, put me in, coach. Right. So, but this is a genuinely awesome story, and it's awesome for about a zillion different reasons.

These scrolls that you're talking about were buried under the ash of Vesuvius. You remember Mount Vesuvius? It exploded, erupted, and buried Pompeii, and there was another city, Herculaneum. And so obviously there's, like, incredible stuff preserved there, a lot of dead bodies, for one thing. But in addition, in the 18th century, they found this villa with a library.

And it's not like today where you can just be a schmuck like me and have a big shelf of books behind you. It's like very few people had, were wealthy enough to have large collections of books. And so there's a lot of stuff in there that might be lost, that is lost from the ancient world, that we could recover. And it's tantalizing because they're baked into these carbonized chunks, basically. They're like charcoal, basically. And so for centuries, people have been trying to figure out how to read them. how to read what's inside them without destroying them or just making them crumbled a million pieces. It's like an Indiana Jones type thing.

You know, if you touch it, it falls apart. And there have been all sorts of different mechanical efforts to do this, including most recently, and this was when I was in grad school, people were shooting them with x-rays, very highly powerful x-rays that can see inside the layers without touching the scrolls or doing damage to them. But it's really, really hard to figure out once you have the x-ray images, is how you're supposed to basically arrange them, virtually unroll them, they say, to make them lie flat so you can read them and see what's on them.

And that's what AI has now helped people to do. There's this project called Vesuvius Project, which is funded by a tech investor where you get a prize if you can do this with one of the scrolls. And they just recently figured out how to do it with a complete scroll. So you can just look inside, into the pass, into these priceless treasures using the help of AI, but not, and this is really important. I know we've talked about this before.

The AI is not reading the scrolls. So it's not guessing what letters are there. It doesn't even know any Greek, if that makes sense. There's no language built into the AI. It's just showing us what it is. Exactly. Yeah, and then the people come along and they read the stuff that's in there. So right now, like, yeah, the one disappointing thing is right now, it's just, I'm sorry, yeah, go ahead.

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10 seconds. Gosh, I am already out of time. I only have a minute left with you. So go ahead and finish. So what are they found? Oh, well, right now, sorry to say, a bunch of philosophy. The hope, there's all these scrolls left to unroll.

We could find stuff by Aristotle. We could find poems that were missing, like Ennis, the great Roman, the great Latin poet. We have a tiny sliver of this period. We've got seven plays by Escalis, which is just a miniature portion of what he wrote. There could be anything in there. And I just love that, you know, the tech is actually working to help the humans rather than the other way around. Thank you so much, Spencer. I'm glad to hear this review that the Odyssey is good.

And, you know, because that's what I would expect from Christopher. It rocks. So thank you. Appreciate it. God bless you, man. Thank you. Great to be here. Spencer Claven.

Yep. That's, wouldn't it be interesting if we open other scrolls and we found, like, the words to be and we realize, no, no, that's why those words are so good. They're ancient. Uh, right? Maybe words from Lizzo's songs, but certainly not Beyonce. True cost of a bad real estate agent is just not inconvenience, it's money, real money. According to industry data, the average difference between a top agent and an underperformer is about $25,000 on final sale price. And that's just on the sell side. By side, bad agent might talk you into a business. overpaying, miss out on a better property entirely, or fail to negotiate closing costs,

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He was saying, my daughter lost some confidence. And he said, you know, I get a call probably twice a year from, and I won't say the name, but one of the biggest names you could imagine. And I get a call from her manager and says, you got to come over. She doesn't think she can sing anymore. And he's like, what? She's lost confidence. She doesn't think she can sing anymore. And he said, have you tried just bringing her a mirror and reminding her who she is. But I've learned so much from him. And it is really all about, and next week I want to talk about this in a non-musical way, but I've learned so much that it really is.

Most of life is about confidence. It's hard work, being prepared, and then having the confidence to do it. Because once you have the confidence to do it, your whole life will change just based on how you feel about yourself. And he was working with people that we had sing for Ellis Island. They had never signed. I wanted to give some people's chance to sing for the first time. They've always wanted to sing, but never really had the chance to do it. And so I wanted to give them really difficult songs that they could sing.

And then, you know, at least they would be able to say, I sang on Ellis Island staring in the eyes of the Statue of Liberty for the 250th birthday. And Ricky, you've been chomping in the bit to tell me something about an update on this. Oh, yes. One of those difficult songs, and it was the most difficult, was Oh, Lady Liberty, the range in that was insane. And it was in French. Some of you guys may remember that Chrissy Owens, it was the mom who auditioned for Alice Island singing contest, and she won.

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And more liberate to vienna to come, Bijouceau some, a monson, compo. Okay. So this is where you're going to need your tissues. Because the message I got from her is exactly the reason why Glenn added empowerment to the mission of Torch. Listen to this.

From Chrissy, I just wanted to let you all know that the Atlanta Braves asked me to sing, oh crap, at the stadium next week. Pretty sure it's because someone from their office saw me on Ellis Island. They don't hold auditions for regular vocalists. It is pretty much invite only. So you have to be a celeb or a school group to even have a shot at it. And they invited me. This stadium holds 41,000 people and this game will be on ESPN during prime time. It's all possible because you guys gave me a shot. Oh crap. Sorry, Glenn, I'm turning into you.

She just wanted to let you know how much yours and Glenn's and the whole team's kindness and support is meant to me, thank you. That's July 22nd at 715 p.m. Eastern, go watch Christy Owens and Cherrin Live. That is fabulous. Chris, I'm so happy for you. So you know, when, and I knew our audience so well, I knew they would pick her because it came down to you, the audience voting. And I knew they would pick her because, for a different reason,

but exactly the same reason. I saw her when she auditioned. She sent in a video. She's a mom. And her kids, she has. had no time to herself. So she doesn't speak French. She learned this song.

She's not a professional singer, never done it ever before. She learned the song in French, and then she auditions, and she was like out of the park. But the whole time, one of her children was constantly tugging on, mom, mom, mom, mom. And she would read, she just grabbed their head and redirect them over to like their sandwich. And she auditioned like that while she was navigating. all of the and I thought if that woman can sing that song that well in an audition while navigating her children to sandwiches this woman can she could do anything uh and she knocked it out of the park and now literally she's going to knock it out of the park Ricky is exactly right

for over 20 years I have started every hour with the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. And when I started the blaze, I told my staff a year before as we were getting ready to, as I was explaining what torch, I'm sorry, when I started the torch, as I was explaining what I was going to do with torch

and why I was making this move in my career, I said, and we're changing the entertainment and enlightenment. And I know a few people who have been on my staff forever went, oh, what is he doing? He's gone insane. And I said, we're adding one word, empowerment, because that's what the next phase, which I'm in now, the last phase of my career has to be about. I can't just entertain you.

I can't just bring you some enlightenment or some information. I want to empower you to use that information, to use the things that you hear on this program, to empower you by, let me tell you a quick story. God, you know what it's like to live riddled with ADD like this? I was, I was, I've been watching Roger work with my daughter for the last week. And she's been in the studio and she's just pounding her head against the wall. She's doing stuff she could have never done before two years ago. And, and I'm watching him.

I'm seeing right next to him the whole time at the control board. and he's directing her and he'll open up his mic into her studio and he'll say that was great and i want you to blah blah blah well after the first two days of really listening to him i realized the man has never used the word but that was really good but this time i want you to never So we're having lunch on day three. And I said, Roger, you don't use the weird butt, do you? And he said, oh, no, I swore that off long ago. This guy was teaching at UCLA.

I found this out yesterday. He's teaching music at UCLA at 16. Teaching music at UCLA at 16. He said, no, but just shuts everybody down. I want to start living by this. that rule alone. I think that will change my life. I think that could change your life. I think that will empower not only you, but empower everyone around you. Because I've always believed there's no such thing as no. There is no, but, as I used to say, there's no, but, meaning you can say, no, not that

way, but if we do this and this and this, I think we can accomplish that. So you don't ever just say no but I think even more empowering is okay that's a really good idea and if we do this and this and this I think we can accomplish it and if we start thinking that way even just for ourselves not just for the people that we're trying to motivate around us and if you're if you're a manager or you're a leader of people thinking that way it's so subtle. I'm not even sure my daughter noticed it. It's so subtle and so empowering, but I'm wondering how empowering it is if you lived your life yourself and never said the word but to yourself. I really like that, but. I really want to go, but. I am now at the age of my life where I can look

back and I can see things that just didn't work in my life. Things that I tried, the things that I thought were true and turns out they're not true. And my, I think it was my grandfather used to say, youth is wasted on the young. And it's so true because you get to a point to where you can see things more clearly. And you can see these things that just empower you and just empower others, whether they're just watching, listening, or standing next to you, doing it with you. Um, And that's what I want to bring to you. That's my goal for the next. That's why I started Torch.

You know, that's why we just, we just finished our first two episodes. And I'm going to let it sit for a while. We're going to work on another audio series, but I'm going to let it sit for a while. Maybe next year we'll work on episode three and four of the American story. But the American story, I'm telling you, it will empower you. I was sitting during lunch. I happened to have my copy of the first draft of the Declaration of Independence because I had to go give a speech the other day in Las Vegas, I think I was.

I had to give a speech, and so I brought it with me. And it happened to be in the car. And I was talking during lunch, and this guy who is just running the control board of the studios, we were talking at lunch one day and he brought up something about our founders or something and i said you know i have something let me get in the car and show you something uh and i brought it out and he was blown away and he said how do i not know this how are we not taught that this guy in los angeles and i said i know right he's like glan that changes everything that changes my

complete understanding he's like i want to go back and read about it now and i'm like i didn't say this but like yes that was the point go and listen to some of the things that we have on torch listen to the first two episodes we want a commercial free you can get all 20 episodes right now and uh i think we're up to 16 is the death of abraham lincoln and the assassination attempts of abraham lincoln and then what happens after he dies and then reconstruction boy you really want to understand you want to understand that nothing has changed just the names uh it's uh it's the American story you will find it empowering information knowledge and age give you wisdom I can help you with information and I can help you with knowledge you're the one that has to put it

into practice and gain wisdom to teach all of it to others but you're smart enough to do it See, I just did it, but. And you're smart enough to do it. You're smart enough to figure it out. You're smart enough to find the truth because it's everywhere. Let me encourage you to do that this weekend. All right. More in just a second.

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Everyone seemed to agree that the reason why they didn't have a fridge as cool as that one is because of capitalism. This could not be more wrong. So while I couldn't find that exact model, I did track down an ad for a similar fridge from 1958. It costs $400, so about $4,600 today. Most modern fridges are way less expensive than that. In fact, $4,600 these days will get you just about the nicest fridge that money can buy. This smart fridge is 50% larger than the 1958 one, it has built-in ice maker and water dispenser,

and some very fancy beverage storage. Not only are fridges cheaper today, but modern American families are much richer than they were in the 1950s. In fact, in 1950, around 20% of American homes didn't even have fridges. Why did appliances become less expensive? It comes down to technological innovation and competition from foreign models. So no, capitalism is not the reason why you don't have that vintage fridge. It's why you, normal person watching this video, can afford a fridge in the first place. So amazing, amazing.

Average people are making a difference. Now, one more video that's been going to make the rounds and I haven't had time to talk about it. Some people are saying she's like a baseball coach from the Great Depression. No, she's Chris Farley. She's a Democratic representative and Senate candidate, Haley Stevens. I want you to listen to this. Tell me she's not Chris Farley. I am going to be working on our behalf.

I am going to be telling the stories on our behalf. and you better believe I'm going to be doing with a little bit of joy, a little bit of enthusiasm, a little bit of energy, and a little bit of stick it to them. Because that's the Michigan way. I mean, I have no idea what her poll. She might be an absolute communist. I have no idea, but I kind of want her to be in,

because I want her just to be on the Senate floor and just go, you're going to live down in a band by the river.