The Glenn Beck Program - Trump NUKES Israel & Iran over Ceasefire Fiasco | Guest: Steve Bannon | 6/24/25
Episode Date: June 24, 2025Almost immediately after President Trump announced a ceasefire between Iran and Israel, both countries began attacking again. Will a ceasefire ever be possible? Host of “Bannon’s War Room” Steve... Bannon joins to discuss how President Trump can move forward from this. Glenn and Steve also discuss how the MAGA movement can broker its own ceasefire. Are we in the kinetic part of World War III? Glenn brings up the dangers of sleeper-cell agents in America, brought in under Biden’s abysmal border policy. Glenn reveals how he reacted when he first heard the news of a potential ceasefire between Israel and Iran and how it quickly fell apart. Glenn and Stu discuss the impossible task President Trump is facing and whether the Israel-Iran conflict is too far gone to be saved. Glenn reacts to the claim that Trump violated the Constitution by striking Iran. The guys discuss Israel’s expert tactics so far in this war, as Stu reveals the part of the ceasefire he didn’t understand. Glenn reacts to a heartwarming message from a World War II veteran. Glenn and Stu break down the nuance of “Make America Great Again” and where the Israel-Iran conflict fits in that vision. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to the program, Steve. How are you?
Hey, Glenn. Thanks for having me.
You bad. This is like, Stu and I were just saying, it's just like fast and furious.
I can't keep up with all the action that's going on.
The, looks like the ceasefire has fallen apart.
Donald Trump is not happy about it.
In case you missed what he said, headed to the health.
helicopter this morning. Can we play that, Sarah? Do we have it? The edited version, please.
They violated, but Israel violated it too.
Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs,
the likes of which I've never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen, I'm not happy with
Israel. You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the first hour
just drop everything you have on them.
So I'm not happy with them.
I'm not happy with Iran either.
But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning
because of one rocket that didn't land that was shot,
perhaps by mistake that didn't land.
I'm not happy about that.
We basically have two countries
that have been fighting so long and so hard
that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Do you understand that?
Yes, Mr. President.
I think we understand where you're coming from.
What are your thoughts, Steve?
Well, Glenn, you know the president as well as anybody.
And you can tell he's put a lot of his spirit into this, a lot of his focus.
And he has worked up.
I mean, I have never seen, quite frankly, this may have on any topic.
He's really worked up.
And I think he, you know, really went over time, went with, you know,
worked with the Qataris, I think also UAE, you know, MBZ.
got to work at this ceasefire.
He wants everybody put down their guns.
And, of course, they're both slugging it out.
And I think that what, you know, Mark Caputo over at Axios was reporting even more
than that display going to Marine One to head to NATO.
I think he had a phone call with Netanyahu and really got on him about this.
So, you know, this thing's very tenuous, but the president has gone to extra yard to make
sure everybody, you know, puts down their guns and have both sides trying to figure.
this out. You know, I saw a tweet from him this morning that said Israel do not, you know, follow through
on these bombs. And he's, he, I've never seen him do this before. Do not do it. Donald J. Trump,
president of the United States. I, you know, for anybody who ever says that, you know,
Donald Trump's being led by those Jews and Israel's telling him, no, no, no.
Donald Trump is clearly the one in charge here.
Would you agree with that?
Well, I think, let's discuss that, but I think on this right here,
people should take that as a papal bull.
You know, I've never seen him actually ever do that,
even in the Ukraine situation, things we got with the CCP,
the Russians, even some of the toughest situations with Soleimani
and others before in the first term.
This is, some of those true social posts were pretty blunt.
And like I say, when President Trump is worked up like this, particularly when he has put so much time and he's working for peace, he wants to already put the guns down, people should take this as a paper bowl.
I mean, it's that serious.
I want to come back to what we were, you know, you said, you know, let's discuss that.
And I do want to discuss that.
But before we do, let me just follow up here.
You keep saying that, you know, he spent so much time on.
I think he has risked more in this last week with his own base than I've seen him put, I mean, he put all of the chips on the table.
I mean, this could have been an absolute disaster.
Who knows, maybe it is in the end.
Maybe it's not.
Maybe it's, you know, a Nobel Prize that he should, another one that he should win.
but the base is so divided on this.
And I think that's part of the frustration too is he put all of the chips on the table.
Can we just get people to do what they say they're going to do?
Would you agree with that?
I would agree.
And I think it's even beyond the politics of the base.
I mean, Glenn, you know better than anybody how torn, particularly the non-interventures are on this topic.
But it's actually, you know, as commander-in-chief and the resources and the assets and the men and women in harm's way.
And particularly, as I've argued, we're already at the beginning of the kinetic part of the Third World War.
Hell, we got two million.
If you look at 1939 to 1914 or 41 when the Burmock went to Russia, from Poland to Russia, we've got two million people dead or wounded in Ukraine, a million on the side.
I mean, look at the Houthis in the Red Sea.
I mean, this is much, we're already in the Connecticut
part of the Third World War.
And now this arc of instability, you've got Kashmir in Pakistan.
And President Trump, he is going out of his way to try to be a peacemaker here.
And it brings this thing to a conclusion so people can start to negotiate.
You saw the beginnings of that of what he did in the Middle East trip.
So, yes, it's definitely politics and internal politics and the MAGA movement.
And you're as familiar with that as anybody.
but I think it's far deep into that, and he put it all on the table, and we've got to, I think we have to question, why the hell we're even here right now?
You know, why on the, or the 24th of June in the year of the world 2025 were in the situation with, you know, 10 million illegal alien invaders on Biden's washer.
We got to deport from the country.
These neo-Confederates running California, these sanctuary cities, the big, beautiful bill, which has got so many huge issues.
We have to address.
We haven't spent a second talking about this in weeks.
So many things going on.
And this is just, it's sucked up all this time as a active shooting war at will.
So, you know, because I've been listening to you.
And I think we agree on a lot of stuff here.
Neither one of us wanted him to drop the bombs.
You're stronger on that than I am.
But, you know, now that it's been dropped, now we just have to deal with what
we're going to deal with. But I think we both stand in the same place on my support, when I read in
the scriptures, you know, those who will bless Israel, I will bless those who curse Israel.
That doesn't mean I go down every path that Israel wants. I don't have to agree with them.
I don't have to do anything. The way I believe I'm to bless them is to say they have a right
to exist. Let's not do another holocaust. And allow them.
to use their own power for self-defense.
They've demonstrated they can do that.
We don't have to get involved in everything that they're doing.
Would you agree that that is a reasonable stance?
Or where's the nuance?
I'd even take it a little further.
I mean, I'm not just personally, but the war were particularly given.
I mean, you think from October 7th, you know, if you look at the Israel in Gaza, which is messy,
We've been a big supporter of their, what they're doing against Samas and Muslim Brotherhood.
Our only message has been, you know, when you've got to go through hell, go it through as quickly as possible.
Let's get it done.
Correct.
And today of Samaria, what they've done with Hezbo is monumental.
Because Hezbo, as you know, Glenn was considered, I guess, one of the best light infantry in the world.
What they've done in southern Syria.
The Israelis have done militarily, I think, in geopolitically, extraordinarily work since the surprise attack.
but there's just so many questions about this and so many questions about why we're so tangled up in this thing right now
that and I think they just have to be answered I think they got to be answered for because to continue to support Israel and look the support to date really we don't have a formal alliance we have a special relationship they're essentially a protectorate of the United States and if that's the case and we should not be in the protectorate business we shouldn't Europe right I agree right now
because they finally guaranteed to pay 5%.
I mean, think of this huge.
As you remember, Glenn, they laughed at us for paying 2%,
which they agreed to in President Trump's first term.
And one of the points was, we can't have Western Europe,
in the elites in Western Europe as a protecting of the United States.
We just can't afford it anymore.
He's making huge moves there.
And that's why I think in this situation,
we really have to go through and see exactly how this came about.
And I think it will be,
will illuminate how we go forward to sort this mess out.
So do you think we would have dropped the bomb if Israel could have dropped that bomb?
I mean, that bomb was made for that particular run.
And we have been rehearsing that run for 15 plus years, specifically.
And nobody else has a weapon that was built for that particular drop.
If Israel could have had it, do you think Donald Trump would have gotten involved?
because I don't think he would have.
Let me take a slightly different direction.
In 79, my destroyer, I was in the Pacific Fleet,
and we were going for our second Westpac to the, you know,
turn over to the 7th Fleet, and we got the call on November 4th.
We were in Desjron 23, the Little Beavers,
the famous Arly Burke Destroyer Squadron.
We got the call that the hostage has been taken,
and it took us a couple months to get there,
but we were one of the first,
we went with one of the first battle groups ever to get to the North Arabian Sea,
and we were there.
I think we rotated out a month before the assault,
but we practiced the assault every day.
And Glenn, you could tell at the time,
this is like, you're not in Kansas anymore.
I mean, it's, it is, the scale of the place is so big.
It's so forbidding, you know, the ocean,
and you never see the sun.
And it's so complicated.
As you know, that one was a complete abject failure.
And I think every junior officer and non-commissioned officer
on any of those ships in the battle group could have totally,
you 90 days before the launch there was going to be a disaster just given the logistics of it.
This is the tell to me and this was the Tomahawk missiles that went to the third site and
destroyed it above ground. I mean essentially Israel had done nothing to take out any of the nuclear
facilities. And let's go back to what I think we have to get to the heart of it, is why did this
come out of nowhere? The intelligence and we're told that the intelligence is different,
And this has been said now by Marco Ruby on other people, that the intelligence is different than the intelligence that I see community had.
And today they're going to have, you know, classified hearings with Tulsi Gabbard and Ratcliffe.
And my understanding is Ratcliffe and the CIA presented additional intelligence that said this was absolutely emergency.
It had to happen.
And that's where the strike had to happen last Thursday, although it shouldn't be lost in anybody that the strike itself didn't look like it was so much to take out the news.
facilities, it was essentially a decapitation strike to the senior military, maybe not to the
religious, that run the state. And I thought that was just very suspicious, including the fact that
President Trump had a negotiating meeting set for Sunday. Now, it wasn't going well. He felt like he's
getting tapped along. But the first thing we heard is that Ratcliffe, I mean, Whitkoff couldn't have a
meeting because all the negotiators had been killed. Now, it turned out later one of the senior guys
was not. But I think we got to find out that, like, what was the emergency? Why did this actually
have to happen? What was the intel that said that they were going to get a bomb shortly? Because
BD went on Brett Baer on Sunday night and said, he was, again, said they're 12 to 13 months away,
which is what he's traditionally said. If that was the case, that's a very different, we had not
gone up to escalatory scale and coercive diplomacy. We certainly hadn't gone to economic warfare,
particularly, Glenn, as you know,
cutting off, not allowing to ship oil
to the Chinese Communist Party,
which I think is 60% of their cash flow.
There's so many things up to escalatory ladder.
And if you want regime change,
I always think the best way to do it is through
economic warfare,
where President Trump, you know, got so tough with him
when he dropped out of the JCPOA,
and that's why in 22, you had the first time,
I think they had a major revolt in the streets.
Not only lasted for a couple of weeks,
but that was the big part.
That was the cause of the sanctions
President Trump were.
Then we get to this situation after the bombing run, and what's concerned about the bombing run is why are Los Angeles-class submarines hitting them with 30 tomahawks on a facility that's above ground?
And I would like to see the Bob Damask report.
Now, President Trump, I believe that we obliterated it, but I haven't seen any ballistic missile capability that could get to the United States tomorrow or San Francisco tomorrow.
I think this whole thing was from the beginning.
I think if you look at Fox News, which I really fault here, this was clear.
This was clearly about regime change.
I think the Netanyahu government saw an opportunity to do regime change.
And until I see otherwise and see information otherwise, there was an absolute emergency and had to happen, that's the reason I was really against any type of military engagement.
Now, it turns out magnificent logistics and people don't realize how complicated that was and how incredible.
But President Trump, I think it's one and done.
And now he's got to ceasefire.
and he's very specific.
I think he came out today.
I think Bloomberg put out and said there's no regime change.
But my point is the opportunity cost us.
This is going to suck us into, if not open combat,
this is going to suck us in just the mind share of President Trump
to have to engage here.
We have so many other pressing massive problems besides the New War in the Middle East.
I want to get into that, but I have two things.
I've got to take a break and then I come back with two things.
Sure.
First of all, I think this is why President Trump was so angry today.
He sees that Israel is going for regime change.
And I don't think he's going to get involved in anything regarding regime change.
He knows that could be an absolute disaster.
Could be great.
Could be an absolute disaster and more likely an absolute disaster.
And maybe that's why he is so angry with that.
But I want to come back and ask you a couple of questions.
One, so is this deep state or is it Israel?
I'd love to hear your opinion on Israel and how they might be, I'm gathering your thinking that they're kind of leading us by the nose.
I disagree with that, but I'd love to hear your point on that.
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I mean, you have seen President Trump in, you know, more situations than most people.
And I, you know, he has even said, I didn't really know what I was up against on my first term, but I am now.
I have a hard time believing that he's going to be duped by the deep state.
Do you think he is being duped or just being moved around by the deep state?
I don't think, and first of all, I don't think it's Israel.
I'm a huge supporter of Israel.
Okay, good.
Okay, good, good.
But they're, but they're.
I know that.
I didn't mean to imply anything differently.
No, no, no, but here's, here's my concern.
My concern, and I have recommended, just like when president,
listen, why did the hostage crisis fail?
One of the reasons, Jimmy Carter, being an engineer,
just had one source of information.
He got one source of information from the apparatus.
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and they made epic fundamental bad decisions that led to a catastrophe
and really hurt America from decades afterwards,
and led to Carter's failed presidency.
What did President Reagan do when he first got in?
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said we need to set up a team B.
We can't just rely upon the apparatus.
It's given it been such fair as particularly the fact
they were quite critical of Nixon and Kissinger
and even Dayton and Rapprochman and everything.
Remember, this plan was eventually going to lead
to taking down the evil empire.
How did that start?
It started with the team B to make sure that you had a fresh set of eyes
that could go through the announcement,
And just like you go to a doctor to get a second opinion, it's the old measure twice and cut once.
And I think I think the President Trump's not being manipulated.
I'm just not so sure that all the information that's coming to him is the information.
Just like I say, let's let's see where the truth's follow them.
I may be wrong, but I would like to, I think it's incumbent that John Rackcliffe and the CIA
excuse me, come for whatever this emergency, you know, this emergency they're going to break out,
have a bomb, have a weapon against this.
Of course, listen, the Moolahs and the Alatollah are bad guys.
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Right.
He deserves shooting.
Hey, these guys are as bad as it yet.
There's no, there's no, you can't think of issue.
But once you get into regime change, you're talking about all, we're non-interventionals for a reason.
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Steve Bannon is on the program.
Well, this is his first appearance on the program.
Steve and I have not always agreed on everything.
But he was gracious enough.
I don't know.
Maybe it has been as long as a year or eight months ago.
He asked to meet with me and we met privately.
And he spoke from the heart about how concerned he was with, you know, the trouble that is coming, you know, with the people who believe in America.
and, you know, we've, we've stood together for a long time, and everything that he said in that meeting is beginning to come to fruition, and we both care about our country a great deal and do not want to do anything more to divide, and he has been working hard to try to keep people together.
Let me talk to Steve about the opposition to involvement here.
some of it
I mean some of it is very reasonable
some of it is
beyond reason
I mean it seems like on both sides
we've just lost all reason and faith
and I don't know where we go from here Steve
I think it's about information
and clearly we got Fox
that's taken one position
and kind of a neo con
interventionist and I think that's
look the MAGA movement is growing
or adding you know
African American men now record rates
Hispanics, we've had a great, we're building the coalition like 1932.
We can't let this stop our momentum.
I believe the more information we get out, and that's why I think you guys get to Obama,
everything that happened here.
I think more information people become more reasonable.
I think one of the reasons you see some unreason is that there's just not enough information out there.
I think the more information, the more we push it out, the more we discuss it,
the more we, you know, answer the hard questions and help President Trump go forward.
on what are going to be a ton of tough decisions as we're now in the kinetic part, I think,
of a Third World War on a broad basis and hopefully it won't expand to the South China Sea and
Taiwan, but it's clearly on the streets of our cities in these sanctuary cities.
So we have a ton of work to do.
And I think the way we get the, you know, some of the people you would say would be unreasonable
is let's get more information out there.
And I think it's incumbent upon us.
I got a lot of respect for you, always have.
And I think it's now incumbent upon us to do that.
So let's talk about this, the war on the streets.
I am extraordinarily concerned.
You know, everything I put up on the chalkboard about, you know,
communist, Islamist, socialist, anarchists will all come together and work together to
first destroy Israel, then, you know, Europe, it'll spread here and the Western way of life
will be on the ropes.
All of that is happening on our streets right now.
And it is, it's a little terrifying to watch because I don't think, I don't think people are
awake yet. I mean, even in Europe, they should be wide awake on what is happening. You see some of the
stuff that's going on with the Islamists on the streets all over Europe. That's not going to last
long. And we have the same thing. How do we stand up against this, Steve? Well, I think you see with
Stephen Miller, first off, I think the number one is we got to look, you're seeing, as you know,
the merger of the red-green alliance, right? The radical jihadists with this neo-Marxist,
movement and you're seeing the streets all over. This is what LA was. I think we've got to get back
and make sure that we're putting forward not having all of our shows totally, totally dedicated
to what's going on in the Middle East. You have to talk about, I think, the major front,
which is to get, you know, mass deportations of at least the 10 million that came in on Biden's
watch immediately. And if we don't, and that's not going to happen easily. You saw in Los Angeles
and President Trump's got more troops that we now have the Supreme Court look like
backing us a little more, but Stephen Miller, I'd like to see Stephen Miller more on TV in the A-block's
than now in the B blocks, and that's where we are. And I think that's got to be emphasis. Also,
the debt and everything is going to happen with this tax bill, the spending all of it,
which is, remember, where the clock's ticking on imploding financially here. So the issues
before us couldn't be higher. Now you're seeing the converging of all these issues. Trump came down
the golden escalator 10 years ago, you know, a Sunday a week ago. And I say for all the
triumphs and tragedies and victories and defeats and good days and horrible days, that's just
the preamble to the next couple of hundred days where you're seeing a convergence of crises.
And that's why we don't need one that just kind of develops out of nowhere, the United States,
where America first, America has to make the decisions for America. And Americans have to know
what that information is. So I think we've got a real, we have a real, we have a real,
job as people in media and people that know President Trump to make sure that we get everything
out and make sure that our coalition only grows that it doesn't split because the radical left
and the established order want nothing more than us to turn on each other.
Steve, thank you so much.
I really appreciate it.
I'm sorry for holding you longer than you had time for it.
Appreciate your time.
Thank you so much, Steve Bannon.
Glenn, thanks for having me on.
I appreciate it.
You got a host of Bannon's War Room, former White House Chief,
strategist. It is, I think he's right, especially about the last things that he was talking about.
And I'm so glad there are more people that are talking about this. And, you know, Steve is on it,
I'm on it, others are on it. We have to spread the message. I talk to people all the time who
are living in this dream world that think that, you know, we can continue the debt. We can continue to
have wars. We can continue to do all of these other things. And we can't. You can't turn a blind
eye on what is in our streets and what is in our neighborhoods. I mean, one of the, one of the
worst things about this involvement with Iran is, you know, they're going to do it anyway.
I mean, they hate us. Death to America. I don't know if you've heard the catchy little
chant, but they do it all the time. I've been doing it since 1979. They are a direct threat.
But we have let thousands of people.
Hi, John says, Joe Biden and the Democrats in the last administration
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And I know our FBI and our DHS, I imagine our CIA is involved in this.
Hmm, strange.
But I know they are looking for these sleeper cells to the,
to the rate where I'm not sure we can look for all the cells outside of our own borders right now.
It's a little overwhelming.
That again goes to what we told you beginning in 2008 was the overall plan to gather all of these like-minded people that hate the United States, want to destroy the United States, and then overwhelm the system.
That's a cloward and pivot strategy.
and we are at the overwhelming of the system as well as top down, bottom up, inside out.
Everything that we've talked about, if you've listened to this program for, you know, long enough,
you know what these things are, you know who Cloward and Piven are.
If you don't, make sure you look them up.
You know, top, down, bottom up, inside out.
You know what the color revolution is.
You know all of these things.
Most people do not.
And this is, you know, why I am shifting gears coming in January.
And it's probably the biggest shift I have made since I left Fox and started Blaze.
And I'm shifting gears because Steve is absolutely right.
It is all about education.
And if we don't educate ourselves, if we don't figure out what's in.
important and put first principles back into place and know what's going on.
Too many people are tuning out the news.
And I understand that.
I don't want to watch the news.
But you have to because the world is changing so fast.
And what's at stake is your way of life and the way of life for everybody in the Western world.
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You know, Stu, I found a, I thought of something yesterday that I thought might be helpful.
What if Donald Trump reframes the whole.
missile thing as a his own celebration of Pride Month as a gift to all of the gays in the Middle
East and all of the gays and lesbians and transgender and the two-spirited people all of them
in Iran this is our gift to you for Pride Parade we're going to try to make sure that
your people that are throwing you off of rooftops are weakened.
Happy, this is our pride parade.
Wow, that would be powerful, a powerful statement.
Right.
Maybe we can start putting like rainbow fireworks inside the missile.
So when they hit their targets,
we get a nice little beautiful rainbow colored explosion.
I think then the left would have to support it.
I really think, I think he should.
I think he should do this.
I think he should come out and say,
this is just my salute to Pride Month.
I'm just trying to help the gays over in the Middle East.
I don't think he.
Taking off the,
what,
you don't think so?
No,
probably not a great idea.
Probably not the direction he should go in.
But I don't,
if he thinks it'll troll the right person,
he'll do it.
So we'll see how that could go well.
It could be fun.
What do you think about this?
What if he is just,
getting into the flag selling business.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
No.
Everybody had the gay pride flags.
And he's like, you know,
everybody's got those and everybody's concentrating on that.
I need to sell more flags.
And so he started scooping people up in the middle of the night, you know,
unconstitutionally, of course.
So people had to go out and buy Mexican flags to protest.
And then, you know, dropping the bomb,
He's like, I need to sell some Palestinian flags.
I've got these Iranian flags.
They've got to go.
I bought too many of those Iranian flags.
Nobody's buying them.
What do I do?
So you think there's a previously unknown branch of the Trump organization that is a flag sales company?
Trump flags.
Trump flags.
I mean, you know, you wouldn't have questioned this if Hunter Biden was doing it.
Why do you question it because it's your guy?
Because it's your guy.
Huh.
Yeah, that's an interesting thought.
You know, you're right.
I hadn't really considered the possibility of Trump flags.
And what is that?
There you go.
Is that that's it?
Nor did you consider the possibility of turning this whole thing around into a celebration of Pride Month?
I really hadn't.
I hadn't really considered that at all.
You know, I spent a lot of time I felt like watching the news yesterday and trying to dissect
what the hell was actually going on.
I never had those thoughts, did you?
No, no.
You know what?
And I didn't come to any conclusion.
I had no idea.
It was just a, I feel like, wasted several hours just trying to figure out what was going on.
Honestly, I kind of wish I just landed on the pride flag thing earlier because I think that's, that might be the best idea.
I didn't have to watch anything.
I knew what was going on.
I'm like, this is big flag.
This is big flag.
You know?
And if Trump wants to, if Trump wants to cover his tracks with big flags.
with big flag.
He should do the Pride month thing.
Well, I mean, he's got the phone thing coming out now, right?
He's got the Trump phone.
We've got lots of Trump crypto.
You could get that.
You get the Trump collectibles.
Why not do the flags?
Because he could do both sides of it.
Right?
Like he could do...
That's right.
He sells the American flag.
Is it a coincidence that he just put up, not one, but two flag polls at the White House?
He had some enormous flags.
He had to move.
He just put the flag poles up.
Now everybody wants one.
Now everybody's like, I got to have a flagpole like that and I got to have a flag.
I think you're mocking this idea, but it will probably be in the Daily Beast by the end of the day now that you said it.
Can I tell you something?
I see crazier things now.
I see crazier things.
You know, when the peace treaty was announced yesterday.
It was like you had killed the anchor's children in front of them all of a sudden.
They wanted this.
They wanted this to go out of control so they could blame Trump for it.
That seems to be the goal of many in the news.
I mean, you could be kind and say, wait a minute, I just flew all the way over here to the Middle East to do this thing.
I put my whole life on hold.
I'm eating hummus.
And now it's over?
Come on.
I mean, you could give them the benefit of the doubt that they had just, they had already made the commitment to be there.
And, you know, so they were like, I'm going to be here for a month.
And they were disappointed.
You know, they thought, ah, we could get some big ratings on our Trump hatred.
And then he cuts the heart out of it.
You know, and they're like, oh, crap.
And that's the best way of thinking about it.
It is.
They just were selfish enough to, they didn't want to travel and they wanted higher ratings.
That's the best possible outcome.
Right. Instead, they're just selfish enough to think that their opinion is the absolute right opinion.
And the president is just a boob and nothing will stop them from saying he's a boob.
No, I mean, honestly, if this thing was perfectly patched up and like, you know, Gaddafi was having, you know, dinner with Netanyahu at Applebee's in three months, they'd still say it was terrible.
They'd still say it was a horrible alcohol.
It might be terrible if it was Gaddafi, seeing that he's been dead.
That was it, but Khomeini, sorry.
I knew I went down the wrong.
Sorry.
I don't get that opportunity to do that to you.
So, don't wreck it.
Don't wreck it for me.
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All right. Last night, I was driving out with my niece and I heard the news that there was a, there was a ceasefire.
and I looked at her because we had just been saying earlier in the morning she lives up here by the ranch
and we were just talking about it and I said, you know what's really strange is I'm not getting
any sense of real trouble and I know trouble has to be just over the horizon and I don't know
maybe God's not talking to me anymore and she's like, no, I feel the same way and she said,
in fact I feel a real sense of peace.
And I said, yeah, I think I do too, and I don't understand it because the world is on fire.
What is the warning that we should be giving?
What should we be doing?
And then we're driving and we hear the peace.
And it shocks both of us.
Ceasefire between Iran and Israel.
Are you kidding me?
That's the first real diplomatic breakthrough in a war that is.
been edging towards the abyss forever and, you know, will be the final battle, I believe,
in the end. And who brokered it? Donald J. Trump. Not NATO, not the UN, not the globe,
not a roundtable of seasoned diplomats sipping espresso in Brussels. Trump. And he announced it via
social media, naturally. He said both parties had agreed to an end of the hostilities. And it would be 24 hours.
I think Iran had to behave itself for the first 12 hours,
and then Israel could join and behave itself for the next 12 hours.
And then after that, everything stops.
Iran said they would stop missile launchers.
The stakes on this have been massive.
You know it and I know it.
48 hours earlier, you know, the Israelis had flattened the Iranian Revolutionary Guard positions.
They had, in response, Iran had just leveled sections of Tel Aviv.
200 people wounded in Israel.
Black smoke over Damascus.
Missiles intercepted over Amman.
The region was on fire.
But the fire paused briefly.
And then it didn't.
I get up this morning and here's what the president says.
As he's heading for Marine 1, we have edited and you'll understand why we
edited the president's words when you hear it if you haven't heard it yet listen they violated but
israel violated it too israel as soon as we made the deal they came out and they dropped a load
of bombs the likes of which i've never seen before the biggest load that we've seen i'm not happy with
israel you know when when i say okay now you have 12 hours you don't go out in the first hour
and just drop everything you have on them so i'm not happy with them i'm not happy with iran either
but I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning because of one rocket that didn't land that was shot, perhaps by mistake that didn't land.
I'm not happy about that.
You know what?
We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Do you understand that?
I think everybody did, Mr. President.
Then he took to social media.
Israel, do not drop those bombs, bring your pilots home now.
Donald J. Trump, president of the United States.
I don't think I've ever seen him like this before.
Now let that sink in here for a second.
The U.S. president publicly telling Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East,
stop your retaliation.
Damage was done.
Israel had already resumed the airstrikes this time with a vengeance.
the Israeli defense minister didn't mince words.
He blamed Iran for breaking the truce,
launching missiles at civilian targets again in Israel.
And, of course, you know, Iran denied everything.
They always do.
Play the sod here of Iran saying how they won the war.
This is from Iranian TV yesterday.
Listen to this.
Yesterday, the people conducted a signet operation.
And they heard the Israelis say that there were over 500 casualties.
In our attacks yesterday, in addition to 300 people that are still missing.
And they are stuck under the rubble.
And more than 200 people were injured, more than 200.
So our operation yesterday alone, more than 1,000 people were killed or injured,
or are still missing.
Perhaps America has joined the war,
because we're very, very close to annihilating Israel.
It was, we were in the closing stages.
No, not really.
But did you notice, is that the way we would have reported that story in the West?
If we were the ones that were sending the missiles over, would we say, hey, you know, in just the open, we did 300 people.
We killed 300 people.
And then there were like 200 casualties, maybe as many as 500 casualties.
and then, you know, just in the last two days, we've killed a thousand people.
Is that the way we would have reported that?
That should tell you everything you need to know about, you know, choose life, choose death,
which side is on the side of life and which side is on the side of death.
They're talking about a thousand people dying, not military targets, a thousand people dying.
Okay, so Iran is denying reality, multiple sources, U.S. intelligence.
IDF radar eyewitnesses on the ground in Jerusalem confirm rockets were fired from Iranian proxies
in Syria and southern Lebanon within hours of the truce.
So does that mean that peace was just a mirage?
Well, here's what I think it means.
It means behind the headlines and the diplomatic smiles and everything else,
the truth about Iran remains.
It's the only thing we know for true.
They don't negotiate in good faith.
They never have.
They're liars.
They don't actually want people.
East, they want to dominate the Middle East, and they want Israel gone.
And they also want America humiliated.
So the ceasefire was a test, and Iran failed.
And yet the coverage, who's the villain?
If you watch the coverage, the villain was Israel or Donald Trump.
The mainstream anchors last night, I don't know if you saw this.
I mean, it looked like somebody was killing their children.
When they found out that there was a ceasefire, it looked like, oh my God,
No, no.
But they were, I mean, when they announced the collapse, you know,
they couldn't blame Trump the night before for war.
And their glee was almost reckless.
I mean, they were just so happy.
They had stunned silence the night before when it was good news.
And then when it was bad news, they're like,
ah, see, we told you.
here's the thing
Trump's pressure campaign worked
his unpredictability worked
Iran blinked
now they tried to cheat the ceasefire
quietly they got caught
Israel responded because
we would too
so now what
Trump is on the plane now
headed over to NATO
not as the wild car
but the man who came
this close to brokering an impossible peace
between two mortal enemies
he has and you know
the peace might be back on by the time he
lands. The world really needs to face this question. What if Donald Trump is right? What if boldness,
not a bunch of pencil pushers, not a bunch of politicians? What if boldness is what keeps the war
from boiling over? What if the thing the world hates the most, mocks the most, was the thing
that's holding back the flood? Yeah, the ceasefire collapsed last night. But I think history is going
remember this moment, not as a failure, but as a reveal. A spotlight shined on the real motives
behind the Iranian regime in case you didn't get it yet. It was a spotlight on the media
last night. So invested in failure of this, they couldn't even fake relief when peace arrived. Couldn't fake
it. I think what Donald Trump did is, you know, I said last night, maybe it was just to a friend.
This is why it would make a very bad president.
because when the fate of the world is at stake,
I would be like, I can't make that decision.
I can't make.
And you have to have somebody who can make the decisions.
And I just don't think I could do it.
I really don't.
Could you have done what Donald Trump did, Stu?
Could you have done what Donald Trump did in the last week?
If you were the president and you had to stand there all by yourself,
your own base was turning, everybody was turning on you.
And you said, nope, I believe this is the right thing.
to do with what was at stake and what is at stake. Could you have done it? I mean, those are two,
I think, two separate questions. I think I would be able to take a stand for something when my base
disagreed with me. I mean, that type of stuff we do. It's very difficult. Doing everything,
when the world is at stake. Doing everything that he did over the past. I mean, the guy seemingly
has no shortage of energy. I don't know if there was a fountain of youth situation. I don't know if there was
just like, I mean, if he just loves Red Bull. He told me, really good genetics. Really good genetics. That's
what it is. Great genetics. All right. But yeah, there's been a lot for him to do. I mean,
there's, I mean, he's still got the bill going on. I mean, when's the last time we even mentioned
the big, beautiful bill that is going through the Senate right now and is a massive part of what
he has to deal with? Not to mention, he's going over to these meetings in Europe right now. The topic
isn't even Israel in Iran.
It's Ukraine and Russia.
And 5%.
And 5%.
And the funding for NATO.
I mean, that is crazy.
It's a lot.
We couldn't get him to 1.5%.
He finally got him to 2%.
Now he's like, 5%.
You're going to have to cough up 5%.
Each of you.
Which is what they were supposed to be doing anyway.
And I think that's fantastic.
Right.
But it looks like it might happen this time.
You got that look on your
face like, yeah, a lot of things might happen.
And you're right.
A lot of things might happen.
Anything could happen and a lot of things might happen.
There's a part of me that's concerned about encouraging Germany to spend more money on defense.
Like, that's the only hesitation I keep coming up with in this one.
It's like, maybe them spending 2% is more than they need to spend, honestly.
Because when they get a lot of big defense going in Germany, things don't always turn out so well.
But I do understand.
and that is their agreement.
They're supposed to be spending 5% on their defense.
That's part of their arrangement.
So I agree with you.
It's just a lot of stuff going on.
So, no, I could definitely not handle all the things that he's doing right now.
I don't think it's possible for most humans to do it.
Are we closer to peace than we were yesterday?
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, we don't know if this thing's going to hold up, right?
Like, we don't know if this arrangement holds up.
But if we can get to a place where,
what we have is even what we had, you know, three or four weeks ago where these countries still hated each other and we're sort of on the verge of war all the time, which is what the situation has been for as long as I can remember with Israel and Iran, except for the fact that many targets have been taken out in Iran and their nuclear program has been diminished significantly.
And a lot of their military leadership has been knocked out.
and, you know, and on and on and on,
all the things that Israel has achieved during this past couple of weeks,
even if it just bounces back to where it was,
Iran is in a much worse position.
And that's, I think, a real positive, frankly.
So, I mean, I think, yeah, I think we're in a better position now.
And the best case scenario here is maybe this thing does hold.
I mean, I don't think the Appleby situation is going to happen anytime soon,
where they all just kind of, we all get together and they share a margarita at the bar.
I don't think that's going to happen.
Really? I think it's unlikely.
though, maybe Trump can make that happen.
That being said, I feel like we're going to be in a better position,
largely because the worst actor in this situation is weaker.
That's good.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah, I agree.
And by the way, your Applebee's thing will never happen.
It's not kosher, nor is it halal.
So not going to happen, Stu, I hate to bring it to you.
I think they could make that happen.
If they can give you four dinners for $9, I think they could make it happen.
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All right, let me play a couple of, let me play a couple of things that have happened
since we last met yesterday.
Here is Akeem Jeffries on Capitol Hill yesterday.
cut one donald trump and his actions which do not appear to be consistent with the united states constitution takes unilateral offensive military action without seeking the approval of the united states congress bring that up to
obamma the use of military force which is offensive in nature must be approved of
by the House and the Senate.
That's according to the Constitution.
It's not optional.
Donald, it's not.
Hmm.
Very big respect there.
You remember when anybody called Barack Obama,
Obama?
And the left was like, he is the president.
He is the president.
You say, Mr. President.
And they don't really care about that.
They also don't care that this is the precedent that they have set.
I mean, I don't know how you're going to win this one
when you have been doing this.
over and over again. If you really cared about the Constitution, you would have actually done something
when it was your president. And I personally would like to see this straightened out and made very,
very clear. I don't think the president took us into war. I think he did a surgical strike.
And, you know, we didn't have this. When, remember when Barack Obama was using drones to
kill American citizens overseas.
Yeah, you probably don't remember. You do, but your friends probably don't remember that.
Yeah, that actually happened. And nobody was saying, he can't do that. He's got to consult with
Congress. No, no, no, uh-uh. No. Why is it? You know, I was on with Pierce Morgan yesterday.
And I asked him, I said, you know, Pierce, let me, if this, if Hamas would have attacked
England the way they did on October 7th, do you think,
the United States
would be having this conversation
about
England is just controlling us
right now. And look at what
England is doing. We would be bombing the snot
out of them. We would be standing by
England's side immediately.
Immediately.
If it happened in Canada,
well,
maybe not Canada. It would have happened someplace else.
We would have been standing by their side.
Of course we would with Canada.
Why is it that
Israel, the strongest ally we have, at least in the Middle East, and quite honestly, the strongest
one we have, I mean, do you want to go to war with France by your side? Because I would rather
go to war with Israel by my side. I don't think they join us. I would rather go to, I'd rather go to war
with them. Don't, don't mess with the Israelis. The French? Yeah, yeah, they're really frightening.
They're terrifying. And look at what they're doing to their own people. Same with England. Look at what
they're doing to their own people.
I just don't understand it.
Now, Chuck Schumer said there was no strategy and no explanation.
Here's Chuck Schumer. Cut two.
As I said Saturday night, Congress and the American people are owed answers.
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You know, I don't know about anybody else, but I'm kind of glad that Israel's on our side.
You know, I would hate to be an enemy of Israel.
They really kind of have it down.
I don't know if you've noticed.
Israeli intelligence operatives apparently place,
dozens of anonymous phone calls to top Iranian generals earlier, it was last week,
warning them, now is the time to get out. You got to get out right now.
Quote, I can advise you now. You have 12 hours to escape with your wife and child.
Otherwise, you're on our list. And we'll hit you, we'll hit your family, we'll hit your children.
Everybody will knock you into the dirt. So they made 20 of these phone calls. And then they said,
you know
if you don't get out within 12 hours
you don't have anybody to blame but yourself
we are closer to you than your own neck vein
put this in your head
and may God protect you well wait a minute
what do what do I do?
Well do you want to be one of them
do you want to be the next one on the list
do you want to destroy your wife and child
no right so what should what should you do
what should you do
you should make a video denouncing the Iranian regime and send it via telegram an encrypted messaging and social media app within 12 hours.
No word on whether they made that app.
Can you imagine you're not making that app?
You're not making that video?
You're making that video, Stu?
No.
Probably not.
No.
Because you're dead either way.
You're dead either way.
You know what I mean?
He's going to run and hide and I guess.
I don't know.
I mean, I suppose if you're standing, if you feel you're standing up for your country, you're not going to do those things.
But you should be real.
After seeing what Israel has been able to achieve militarily over the past year, year and a half, you'd have to believe it.
It wouldn't just feel like an empty threat.
Last year and a half, how about the last week and a half?
I mean, they took out all the, they knew right where these guys were and convinced them to all gather together.
Some of them, you know, you guys should get together and have a little party.
You guys should get, you know, what?
And they did it.
They pulled it off.
I mean, it is amazing what they have done.
Yeah.
And it's so hard to kind of decipher what is going on from minute to minute, honestly, at this point.
I spent hours and hours watching this as the news was breaking of the ceasefire.
And then all of the immediate reporting, you know, officials seemingly on,
in both countries saying actually, no, we don't have an agreement yet.
And then bombs continuing to drop.
And then Donald Trump getting angry at both of them.
And it's just so hard to know what is actually going on.
Do you have a theory as to what the...
Yeah, maybe I've misread the ceasefire.
But what I read is there's a 12-hour period that Iran has.
And then Israel has a 12-hour period.
But at the end of the 24 hours, that's it.
And so it was kind of like, you know, do your worst, Iran.
You got, you got 12 hours.
And then this is the plot of the purge, I believe.
I know, I know.
But wasn't that your understanding of it?
Yeah, it was weird.
It was a 20, the 2 12 hour periods and then at the 24 hour period,
which ended at 7 a.m. Israel time, you know, those bombs they dropped were at 3 o'clock in the morning.
Yeah, it's weird because usually.
there is a time period to stop it.
And I guess the theory being, hey, you need to be able to get word to all of your, you know, all the people at the missile stands.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
So you're trying to give a little bit of a window so that you can say those, whatever weapons get fired in that period are not violations of the ceasefire.
I've never seen one before that I can remember where one party is.
in the ceasefire had a longer period or a different period to fire than the other country did.
Like, hey, you guys get 14 hours and you guys get 11.
Like, I've never seen that before.
Or I've never seen a period where you guys aren't allowed to fire for their 12 hours and then you get to fire for your 12 hours and they can't respond or whatever that was was very complicated and strange.
And I, you know, I saw this.
It was the purge.
It was the purge.
Yeah, it's weird.
I think like we should target, let's say, for future agreements where we have ceasefires
of no period where you just get to keep firing.
I feel like, you know, I can understand back in like the 1700s where you needed to get
to your generals on the field and let them know, hey, don't go to war anymore.
I feel like truth social, most people know what he posts there.
My guess is most of the people who are important enough to get the information.
they're not supposed to fire missiles.
Get it pretty quickly these days.
Let's just stop.
Like I feel like let's just give it a whirl.
Maybe we have a generalized understanding that if something flies up the next 40 minutes,
you know, let's try to ignore that one.
It seems to be a very strange way of doing things.
And it allows for audos.
So Donald Trump doesn't, he clearly didn't read it this way because he was,
he's very upset.
He's very upset.
Iran and Israel for both violating it.
But I don't know.
I mean, is the, is this, is the ceasefire actually off?
Because I don't think it is.
They've not violated it.
He's very angry.
7 a.m. is when it was supposed to happen.
That was what?
I don't know.
I'll stop my head.
I don't remember.
One a.m. I think our time.
So he was obviously very angry about weapons being fired outside of the windows that he
approved or at least was of the understanding.
And that's what was another thing I struggled with yesterday of what actually happened, right?
Like, because I think there's an argument to be made and a believable one, right, that there was an agreement fully agreed to by both parties and, you know, Donald Trump and I guess Qatar overseeing it.
And then Iran flaked on the deal and fired anyway.
Like totally believable to me absolutely could have been the case.
That's what they, I mean, you know, the ceasefire without an unconditional surrender.
you know, that is a, that's an interesting thing because, I mean, that's what Hamas does.
That's what Hasbelah.
That's what Iran does all the time.
Yeah, we're not going to, we're not going to do that.
Definitely.
We're not going to do that.
And then they do it.
Right.
So, wait, I mean, you just said, no, but that was special.
That was part of Ramadan, maybe.
You know, you're like, wait.
It's part of Pride Month, as you mentioned earlier.
That's right.
So, like, option A, totally believable.
everyone comes up with an agreement and Iran flakes.
Okay.
Option B, everyone comes up with an agreement and Israel flakes.
Less believable to me, but especially possible.
But possible.
It's less believable largely considering how important the relationship is between Israel and Donald Trump from Israel's perspective.
Like they have gone out of their way over and over and over again to make sure that they're
not they're not infuriating Donald Trump on on multitude of issues, even like things like
tariffs.
Like they just like, okay, we're lowering ours to zero and it's fine that you're keeping
yours higher.
Like that was their point on tariffs before even liberation day happened.
This is an existential threat to Israel.
Right.
So we don't understand it the way they do.
And I think the, you know, Iran broke the treaty first.
They've launched missiles.
and then Israel responded.
And I think, honestly, that I could see Donald Trump saying,
you're coming to the table.
You're coming to the table.
And they're like, we are so close.
We are this close to completely decapitating them.
You know, we're not going to stop right now.
You're going to stop right now.
And they made, okay, fine, knowing that Iran is going to violate.
And then they'll just go and finish the job.
I think personally, that's most likely what happened.
because Donald Trump, I don't think, even though he said it last week, I don't think he wants regime change because it's risky.
It's really, really risky.
And so he sees this way to go to kind of a stalemate and he's happier with that now that he's pushed the nuclear weapon possibility back a few years.
Okay.
So I think that's possible.
By the way, on regime change, I feel like it's something I'm rooting for but don't want to do.
And this, yes, me too, me too.
I say the same thing about, you know, me getting into shape.
Like, I'm rooting for it, but I'm not going to do it.
It's that type of thing where I don't necessarily want to be involved in the process of getting into shape.
But I, I root for it to happen.
Maybe, you know, if some miracle occurs.
Somebody will do it for me.
Right.
I'm all in.
I'm all in on that.
So that's option two.
I have to think, I have to admit that I had an option three in my head as well, which was.
I think I know what it is.
You tell me.
is mine.
I bet you it's the same.
So my option three was Israel and around, they had some talks.
They were pretty close maybe, kind of near an agreement.
Maybe some things have been floated.
It looked good.
Trump was a little worried that it might fall through.
So he just went public with it and said it was done.
And it was like, I'm going on truth social.
Right now, it is done both of agreed, period, knowing that it would put both of them in a very
difficult position because if they kept firing, they'd look like they were the ones
violating an agreement that had been announced. And I have to say that part of me thought
maybe there wasn't a real agreement and he was just wishing it into existence and at the
same time putting all sorts of leverage on both parties. So I think, you know, it did cross
my mind because that's exactly what I thought too. Cross my mind because of Norman Vincent Peel.
Yes. Okay. He went to Norman Vincent Peel's church as a kid. I mean, he grew up.
up listening, the power of positive thinking.
That's why he's always speaking.
This is going to be the greatest thing ever.
Nobody's ever seen anything.
He speaks everything into existence.
And he actually believes it.
He believes in the power, so do I.
But he believes in the power of positive thinking.
He believes in the power of just speaking things into existence.
And so there is a possibility.
They were very, very close.
And he's like, we got a deal.
we got a deal their life.
Wait, what?
Because that's the way everybody reacted to it when he did it.
Everyone was like, oh my gosh, and they were celebrating it.
And then you started seeing reports out of like, from like the mouths of Iranian officials being like, we have absolutely.
We haven't even been sent in agreement yet.
Right?
Like they were saying that on the record.
And it's like, I don't.
Now Iran could just be lying about it completely.
Like they could be saying they could have already signed it or that guy didn't know.
there's other possibilities there, but I think a large one is just that Trump was like,
we're doing this.
Right.
Let me give you a probably a closer, a closer guess than what we're, you know, where we've been.
I got them on the phone.
I at least talk to each of them.
We didn't come up.
We're doing a peace deal.
Okay.
That's kind of where we are.
I think what probably could have happened is,
We did all of the work.
We had all of the phone calls, but nobody had signed.
And Trump is like, I'm going to lock them into this before they have a chance to change their mind.
I'm just announcing it.
I think that's a possibility.
Highly possible, I think.
Yeah.
And, you know, I go back and forth on this because, you know, Donald Trump's real job, okay, is to come up with the best outcome in God only knows how many situations he's dealing with at any given time, right?
And so the best outcome for America, America first, would be this war to end, right?
And, you know, no flaring up of violence.
And that's what he's pursuing.
And he wants that to happen.
And so he is oftentimes negotiating publicly to the ends that he wants to achieve.
And, of course, his job is actually to achieve those ends.
That being said, it does put us as American citizens in a situation where it is wise to
take what he says publicly as not necessarily
completely factual and literal.
And it's weird to be in a situation where you have to recognize,
hey, he might be, instead of trying to tell me the truth as a citizen,
what he's trying to do is influence a situation and negotiating
to what might be a great end.
But it puts us in a weird position where we're chasing around trying to figure out
what's actually occurring.
and we can't necessarily, and I mean this, I'm trying to like set this up in a way because I don't want it to sound like the insult that it might sound like.
But like, we are in a position as American citizens where we really just can't trust what he says as the truth.
And I think that is for, let me rephrase that.
I think that is, just to finish, leading towards good ends.
I don't think it means, it's like not because he's lying to us because he wants to lie to us.
It's because he's trying to influence these situations in a positive direction.
But it's weird to be in that situation where he says it is a there is a ceasefire sign.
And we can't just say there is a ceasefire signed because we don't know that that's true yet.
We have to kind of go through other layers of wait, what is actually happening here before we can land in that position.
So I would say it this way.
We cannot trust that what is happening in front of us is finished what.
we have to ask ourselves, are we still in the final stages of negotiation?
Because everything about Donald Trump is negotiation.
Everything is.
Yeah.
Everything.
And he is, you know, it's like I'm going to, you know, little boy, fat man and little
boy over there in North Korea, I'm going to bomb the snod out of him.
And then next he's his best friend.
That was all negotiation.
Right.
I shouldn't have taken a word he said seriously.
That was negotiation to get.
North Korea to behave and look what happened in the end, you know?
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I'm just going to wait till tomorrow and then maybe we'll have a better idea, frankly,
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you in so many ways.
Spend some time with your freaking kids.
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Tomorrow, the news will still be there.
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Listen to this.
Hello.
Today is May 8th, the anniversary of the victory in Europe.
When I found out the war was over, I was already out of the service.
I got out on April 13th, the day after President Roosevelt died.
I was 22 when I went home after seven years of service.
Of course, I joined was my cousin Chick.
When we were 15 in 1938,
Time just goes by.
And the next thing I knew,
the world was celebrating victory in Europe.
Here I am at home with my mother and my dad.
And they announced the war was over in Europe.
Hitler was dead.
His troops have given up, turning all their arms.
All their ships were being confiscated.
What an elation.
No way I'm going back.
I'm discharged already.
But the release anyway, after all those years, I was in the service,
and especially three years overseas.
And it's over now?
It's crazy.
It's hard to think you're free.
It's a different life.
Yes.
There were a few beers drunk that day,
and a lot of all their liquor, of course.
Some settled with handshakes and glad it's over.
That's what I did.
I stood by my mother and gave her a hug.
I'm not going back.
I've got to remind you guys,
I'm here because a whole bunch of my friends gave their life
so that I can make it here.
It's hard to realize that.
I came true to the end.
of the war without a scratch.
How can you land on Omaha Beach on D-Day
and get through that minefield without a scratch?
If you could take the time today or tomorrow or every day,
for just an instant, have a little visit with those guys that gave their life.
So we're winners.
That's the reason we're free today is because these guys gave their life.
I think he is fantastic.
He has an Instagram page called Storytime with Papa Jake.
And I saw that the other day, and it just makes me all soupy.
The innocence and the sweetness of a guy who's lived his life,
I'm sure he's lived a hard life.
I mean, landing on Omaha Beach, I don't know, there's just a,
there's something about people who lived back then that is just different.
And I wonder if we can ever get back there.
Or if we want to, I don't know, I do.
I don't want the troubles that they had back then.
I don't want the, you know, the bigotry and everything else that they had back then.
But I, I, you think we'll ever get back to a place to where a few beers were drunk that day, I'll tell you.
Some handshakes.
Congratulations, it's over.
I mean, who speaks like that anymore?
I talked to Steve Bannon earlier today.
Both of us are very concerned.
We don't agree on everything, and we've been at odds at times in our careers, but we both love our country, and we're both concerned about people hammering each other.
There's something happening with the right right now, and look, we can disagree.
It's healthy.
I think actually what we've gone through is really, really healthy in some ways.
Having the conversations about the control of deep state, the control of foreign countries.
I mean, you know, if we get to sit and say to people, you know, Israel's, you know, Israel's just controlling us.
No, no, they're not.
Well, they're lying to us.
Well, of course they are.
Of course they are.
You don't think we've ever lied to other countries?
you know, it's that country's job, that president or prime minister's job, to do what's right for his country.
Just like, you know, we're discovering now or rediscovering.
That's exactly the job of the president to do what's right for our country.
And, you know, when our interests align 100%, there's no reason to shade things.
but if you are somebody who needs the other side,
yeah, you're going to say, you know, this is really good for you too.
And if they buy it, they buy it.
You got to do what's right for your country.
And it's, you know, you shouldn't be mad.
If our presidents are ever duped by another country,
why are you mad at the other country for trying to dupe us?
We should be mad at our own politicians who have been duped.
So one thing I like about President Trump is,
I don't think he's duping or,
or being duped.
You know, I think he is,
well, America first.
Make America great again.
That should be the slogan for every country,
not build back better.
What the hell is that even?
God, it's the dumbest, dumbest phrase I've ever heard.
Wouldn't you love it if England was going to make England great again?
I was going to say, wouldn't you love it if German, no, no.
I didn't have to think about it.
You couldn't even get it out of my head.
I was thinking it.
Wouldn't it be great.
next one. Wouldn't it be great if Germany was no? It really no, uh-uh. Because I'm not sure,
I'm not sure they define it the same way. It would be great if Sweden and Holland, they were
great again. France, Italy. I mean, Italy's still pretty great, but it'd be great if we took pride
in things again. Not some garish pride, not some hateful pride, but just, yeah, I'm proud of my country.
I'm proud of us.
I'm proud of what we do.
I'm going to share something with you tomorrow.
A little bit more information on things I've been telling you as I'm working on.
And you'll understand in time why I'm, you know, dribs and drabs of things.
But I'm going to share some more information with you tomorrow.
And I did a lot of thinking about this audience.
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And it's not a boastful pride to say, I'm proud of the people that listen to me.
I'm proud of being part of this group.
You're amazing.
What's wrong with saying that about your country?
Listen to this. Play cut nine. This is the UK MP who's talking, this is during a reform UK rally last February in Essex. His name is Rupert Lowe. Listen to what he says.
Watching Trump and the Americans, it has made me even more determined than ever to restore our unique country through a great repeal act when labor falls at the next election.
I don't particularly care if we're liked by the rest of the world.
I care if we're respected, because right now, Britain is a joke and it has been for some time.
I want the British government to put the British people at the top of the agenda.
We should make no apologies for that.
Learn from Trump.
Let's be unapologetically patriotic.
Slash tax across the board.
Enforce the border.
Deport those with no right to be here.
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Let's make Great Britain great again.
Thank you.
I love that.
No, that's not going to go necessarily with all of our interests, you know,
but I love that.
Make Britain great again.
And I really don't understand.
With the exception of a couple of things,
I don't understand how you could disagree with a lot of what he just said.
I mean, you might say,
oh, I don't agree with a wokeism thing.
What did he call it, wokeery?
I love that.
I swear, if you're English, you just sound smarter.
If I said, you know, no of this wokeery stuff,
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Let me ask you one thing, Glenn, about the way this has developed over the past couple of weeks as ties into what you're just talking about.
Part of the opposition to us being involved in this at all has been, I think, really well considered, right?
Like, we've been involved in these situations before they've spun out of control.
We should really take that seriously.
part of it has been I think sort of nonsensicals you know some of its anti-semitism you know I mean there's a lot of other factors but one thing that has outside of that has that has bothered me as far as the opposition is there's an undercurrent of just America kind of sucks you know there's this undercurrent of like we're actually not that much better than Iran I mean we kill people they kill people you know we kill people Russia kills people
like there's this sort of like, I don't know, we've always, I've understood America as being a great place.
The first, you know, video you played of, you know, of victory in Europe day, right?
Like that's what I, yeah.
Like his, while as you have pointed out many times, we've had many mistakes, that is the America I believe in.
And I feel like to create.
And want to create.
do you think that
especially particularly on the right
is there too much of this
I mean certainly on the left that they don't think
America's great but is it creeping into the right
as well? Yeah I think it is
I think we are
you know this is why one of the reasons why
I keep asking
if you don't believe Donald Trump
who do you believe
who do you believe
if you don't
if you supported him
and now like, I can't support him.
What do you support?
Stop telling me what you don't support.
Tell me what you do support.
Because, you know, you might have to be that person that steps up that others can support.
I don't know what the answer is.
I just know you just can't eliminate things.
You can only eliminate so many things before you're only left with you in a room going,
well, I finally have everybody in this room that I agree with.
You know?
And so I think we're having that.
But at the same time, that's decaying because the left is decaying to a point to where we have
a Democratic socialist.
That is basically a communist.
That's just a fancy way of saying, a softer way of saying communist.
He might be elected as the Democratic nominee for mayor today in New York City, a Democratic
socialist.
Wow.
and by the way he threw his weight behind Hamas
okay
I mean that's
that says something
that's how far the other side is
we don't want to be you know we don't want to be where they were
six years ago
because look where that led
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Massive difference.
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It's interesting, Glenn. I was thinking a little bit about what you were talking about last break in that there is a sense of a little bit on the right that, you know, America isn't the
positive influence, I guess, in the world that I've always considered it to be. You know, there's
certain... Wait, wait, wait, wait. Can I take this as we go? Can I ask you questions?
Yes, you can. I'll allow it. Okay. So we are, we are, well, I don't want to interrupt your
thought. Right. I don't know what you mean. But I have to just, I have to understand what you're
saying here because we are not necessarily the positive influence that we are, you know,
We used to be.
We are still a positive influence, especially lately.
I think when we were shoveling DEI and everything else and, you know, transgender, everything, you know, for aid.
I don't think that was a very positive thing.
But we still are a very positive nation.
We just can be better at it.
Yeah, I think that's true.
We have our problems, certainly.
No one would deny that.
I still, though, even in our darker periods, it's like, I mean, I think you could point to certain nations and find instances.
Like, you could say Argentina is potentially a better influence than us right now fiscally.
You know what I mean?
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You could find examples of certain things.
But, like, still, you know, there's not a massive flow of migrants out of this country into Mexico, you know, or anywhere else, frankly.
I mean, it's just.
No, we're still.
we're still the greatest place for freedom in the world.
That doesn't mean that it's fixed or it's, you know, fabulous or what it should be,
but we still are the greatest place.
People still want to come here.
Yeah.
You know, the problem is now this balance of us having more knowledge about the things that we have done and are still doing.
You know, USAID or the CIA.
I don't trust the CIA.
I don't trust.
I mean, I didn't trust them before.
really don't trust anybody in the intelligence community at all. I mean, I don't trust the
Mossad, but I don't trust us either, you know? Yeah. I think that's, I think that's an appropriate,
like you be skeptical, but I think recognizing that it's not like there's like a bunch of
amazing agencies that compared to our agencies that you'd be like, I wish we could import them.
Oh, no. No, there's not one that I would rather have. In many cases, at least, that's the,
So what I came back to a little bit when I was thinking about this is
Selina Zito, our favorite reporter in Pennsylvania,
talked back in the day about taking Donald Trump seriously but not literally.
His supporters view him and take what he says seriously,
but they don't necessarily always take it literally.
And I was thinking about that as it applies to like his main slogan, right?
Make America great again.
And how I teach.
take that and how maybe others take it. I really take that one seriously, but not literally,
in that, like, I don't think that all of American greatness was gone when Donald Trump was not
in office. I think we were in a worse position and going the wrong direction. And the hope of
Donald Trump or a conservative candidate of another name would be to bring this country back
to its potential and maybe exceed that potential.
Right?
Correct.
Where if you take it literally, you might take it as we, we're good at one time and now we're bad and we need to go back to being good.
And I don't, some people I think maybe.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I think there are people on the left that do believe that, though.
Oh, I think people on the left, they do believe.
I don't.
I think the only problem with that on the left is that they, you know, America, they don't see as great.
They maybe never was ever.
It started out as slavery.
Look at the, what was the project from the New York Times?
times the 1619
1619, thank you
I was thinking 1719 project
1619 project
basically aligns that world right
like we are a bad place we were born in
badness we've been bad the entire
time we're still bad that is
the view of the left where typically
what I think the appropriate
measure of America has been is
we've been generally
good born out of good things
with some problems we've
corrected a lot of those problems we've created some
new ones, but we're still generally a good influence.
And the return of a conservative candidate would bring us closer to our potential and maybe
achieve even more that we've achieved in the past.
Where I think some on the right, and I've seen it mostly on this, you know, many people
who are completely against any intervention in some of these worlds is like, we're actually
kind of bad.
Like everything we get involved and we ruin it.
We're terrible influence.
We're going over there.
We're killing all these innocent people.
You know, it's bloodlust.
It's just for neocons and corporations.
And like, that's the talk I remember from the left for many, many years.
And I hear more of it from the right.
And I don't know if it's just a passion thing or a lost in translation thing.
Or maybe I'm just overstating it.
I think it is a loss of nuance.
That's what's happening.
We have lost all nuance.
Look, these wars, these foreign wars, they have been horrible,
horrible. They haven't worked out the way we wanted. I think it makes our position in the world
worse. I do believe there were people with nefarious feelings on, you know, we've got to control.
I shouldn't say that. I think there were some that were nefarious that just want to control everything.
I think there were some that were of that policy that really believed this was the right thing to do.
I would put myself in that category. I really believe.
that we could intervene in other places where there was injustice and we could bring justice to the
world. I didn't like the role of the policeman, but I thought nobody else is going to do it.
And we have to, we have to stand up for what is right with military.
And then I think there are those who, you know, just knew the whole time.
This is really, this is a bad idea. This is not going to work.
I was not one of those.
I bought into the progressive lie.
This was the Republican side of progressivism, which was interventionalism and spreading of, you know, democracy and the republic.
No, we shouldn't do that.
So for us to recognize now and say, yeah, we really did some horrible things, you know, we, we, you know, when you're involved in ghost planing people, et cetera,
et cetera. You know, we don't, we don't ever torture. No, we just pick you up in a ghost plane and take
you to a really bad country that does torture on our behalf. That doesn't clean, there's no clean
hands. Hello, Pontius pilot. You know, it's not going to, it's not helping. That's not
helping. But the, what's lost here is the nuance of, yeah, there is a deep state. Yeah,
there are people that are really conflicted right now about wanting to make sure that Iran does not have a nuclear bomb,
but also they don't want to get involved in a foreign entanglement.
And they're not sure who to trust.
You know, who can I, who can I trust?
Who has come clean and said, okay, we made mistakes and we're not going to make those mistakes again.
And who has been, you know, like Donald Trump, he never bought into the foreign war.
thing ever. I've never and you know I've watched him for you know since the 1980s I've never heard him
for foreign wars ever. Um so he's pretty clear on that. Um, but then how do you deal with if in this world
of no nuance? How do you say I am for Donald Trump and I believe Donald Trump? Um, however,
I think maybe we, you know, should be involved at least in dropping the bomb. I'm saying before
was talking about doing that.
I think we should maybe drop the bomb because I believe they shouldn't.
How do you balance that?
You can't even have the conversation now because there's no nuance.
You are either for killing and destroying and drinking the blood of Christian babies, along with them Jews, you know, and you're a warmonger, or you just
have no, you have no place at the table because America is just a horrible place and we shouldn't
be doing anything. We should blow up our whole country. Neither of those are right. Neither of those
are right. And this is what has been so frustrating for me to watch over the end. You know, Stu,
I mean, were you here last, was it last week when I kind of blew a gasket? And, you know,
because some things had been, you know, thank you. Thank you for that. See, new ones. It matters.
there was somebody that came out who's a friend
I've always thought was a friend
and they were bashing me
because they said I'm just in with the Jews or whatever
and I just started to blow a gasket
and I apologized immediately
and I was like no no I don't want to be a part of this
it's really hard
because we're all being pushed into tribes right now
we're all being called names right now
on all sides on all sides
and it takes real strength to say,
no, you know what, these are my friends.
I have now spent the last 25 years, you know,
isolating myself from half the country
because honestly, a third of the country has gone
bat crap crazy and they hate the nation.
They want to see us fail.
They, you know, they're voting possibly for.
or a honest to God communist in New York City.
I can't.
I can have respect for you having different opinion,
but that is not America.
You're part of something that is not making America great again.
You're part of make America into something completely different.
And I'm not willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
But everybody else is my friend, my ally,
even though we might be arguing with each other.
We have to have these conversations.
I think this conversation, if it would have been ratcheted down,
I think this conversation that we've had on the right is really, really good.
It's really good.
Yeah, it can be constructive.
I think at times it's been destructive, but it can't.
The conversation should happen.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Yeah, let me say.
I said the conversation is really, really good.
The way we've done it is not.
And that has to stop.
Yeah, I agree. Because really what you're talking about is what is the line of us getting involved in these situations. I mean, previous, at least to very recent history, I think most people would say, hey, you know, we should be, you know, involved against the Nazis after Pearl Harbor or whatever. You know. But we debated that. But we even debated that at the time. We almost didn't go in. Yeah. And it's, of course, the ability to look back and say, hey, this turned out for the better is a nice, you know, obviously.
Obviously, that in retrospect is a lot easier to make those decisions.
But still, I think, you know, you could universally look at this mostly and say, hey, who's the right side, who's the wrong side of that conflict.
Yes, yes.
But, like, you know, I think, too, like, we have to look at it.
And you mentioned nuance.
Like, let me give you an example of a piece of us jumping into these situations around the world that I'm really proud of, which is missile defense.
Like, we, look at, there's no way.
way we'd be having a ceasefire if right now Israel and Iran were just kept firing at each at each other.
The fact that like Iran can fire at a base in Qatar and Qatar can step up and knock down those
missiles so that no no no no effect. I mean, that's largely our technology, possibly some of
these countries could have done it on their own. But like us using those, using our abilities
for good in these situations, I think has taken this war that.
could have spiraled into something much, much worse.
Yes.
And given us an opportunity for Donald Trump to make that announcement on truth social.
Yes.
So.
And let me go one more step on to bring it back to Make America Great Again.
The nuance here that I think I would like to share on Make America Great Again,
I don't want to make America great the way it was.
Because I think that was great for the day.
And it was the best we could do then.
But I think we are much, much better than where we were.
And we can be much more.
You know, we are much more, I hope, more enlightened.
We understand our own flaws and our own country a little bit better than we did 25 years ago.
I think we make America better than we were.
And, you know, so make America great again, sounds to me, again, all nuance,
sounds to me about, you know, like going back.
And that's not what he means.
know that's not what he means and that's not what the average Trump supporter means. But, you know,
the people who are not mega, you know, might be, uh, might be helped along a little bit if we said,
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