The Glenn Beck Program - Two Lessons from Abdul El-Sayed's Win in Michigan | Guests: Charlie LeDuff & Delano Squires | 8/5/26
Episode Date: August 5, 2026The Michigan Senate primary was yesterday, and despite being declared too close to call by major outlets like Fox News and the New York Times, candidate Abdul El-Sayed (D) is already declaring victory.... Glenn discusses how yesterday's election in Michigan shows that a sizeable number of Americans aren't buying in to the socialist mindset of these candidates. Independent journalist Nate Friedman joins to discuss the Islamic takeover of Michigan and why El-Sayed is close to becoming the state's Democrat nominee for Senate. Michigan Enjoyer columnist Charlie LeDuff joins to discuss Abdul El-Sayed's campaign funding. Was it fully funded by fake donors? Due to a series of recent cyberattacks on water utilities throughout the country, Glenn encourages listeners to learn who's in charge of the water system in your city and what questions to ask the leaders. The Heritage Foundation Center for Human Flourishing Director and BlazeTV contributor to "Fearless" Delano Squires joins to discuss the role that black voters play in the Michigan Senate primary race. Glenn warns that to fix the problems in America, people must remember who they are as Americans. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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America, welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
So glad that you've tuned in today.
We got a lot going on.
We have Nate Friedman on.
He's an independent journalist.
And he is going to explain the Islamic takeover of Michigan.
He's going to join us here in just a few minutes.
And speaking of that, the results are kind of in.
NBC News says Abdul El-Said has won Michigan's Democratic Senate primary.
notching a Midwest victory for the far left.
Well, is it?
Is it? And here's why.
New York Times is saying this is too close to call.
Excuse me?
New York Times is saying this is too close to call.
So are they going to bring out the box of, you know,
absentee ballots that were marked Haley or the box that were marked for El Saeed?
I don't know.
but it's
close.
El Saeed has already
declared that he is the winner.
So we will see.
And I've got a lot to talk about this.
Also,
everybody is celebrating.
Far left scores another victory
in Democrat's Civil War
with a Michigan primary win.
Another win.
The pro-Israel Democrat
fends off Democratic Socialists
comeback in a attempt in Missouri.
And Kamala Harris says,
I know what we have to do to win.
Okay.
We'll get to her word salad as well.
Just give me 60 seconds.
We get right into it.
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Al Sayyed has won Michigan slugfest of a Democratic Senate Party, according to NBC News, clinging the nomination in a close race over Haley Stevens, establishing a Midwest Beachhead for the progressive left in the march of this midterm cycle.
Al Saeed overcame nearly $65 million onslaught of the outside money and establishment that had rallied around Stevens, popular governor Gretchen Whitmer,
endorsed Stevens last month, the move seen as a last ditch effort to help stop arising El Saeed.
El Saeed, former public health official, goes on now to face former Representative Mike Rogers
who claimed the Republican nomination without opposition yesterday.
Okay, let me point out a couple of things.
First of all, do you have the numbers in front of you, Jason, by any chance?
It was super close.
Yeah, it's right now El Saeed has 48.48% at 7%.
740,000-ish, Stevens is at 47.51 at 726,000.
So less than 20,000 between the two.
Okay.
So let me start before we get into speculation of,
are they going to find votes for either side?
Let's start here.
Remember yesterday it was a blowout?
Day before it was a blowout.
Everybody had him winning at 90%, 99.
percent. Everybody said it was a cakewalk for him. Turns out, just with what we know today,
only 20,000 different. What does that tell you? That tells you that the people of Michigan
are not all on board with socialism. In fact, do we have the, do we have the Chairman Mao
Piu-Pou-Pou-Pou-Pou? Pou-Pou. Pou. Pou. Pou. Pou. 40 million stars.
So I'll still they bow.
They shout somehow.
Mows, pew, pew, pew.
So I'll give you a communist update today.
Not everybody in Michigan is on board.
Not everybody is saying, oh, I got to have me some of that communism.
I just, all I could do is just get into some red-green alliance, everything would be set.
No, apparently not.
It's close.
It's close, which means you've got a guy.
that a lot of people on the Democratic side feel like I don't think I could go his way.
What does that mean if you have Mike Rogers coming in?
Is this guy so polarizing to the Democrats?
Are there enough Democrats to wake up when you get into a general that he'll lose by a landslide?
I don't know. That's, you know, it's something the communists are going to have to answer and face for themselves.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay, let me see. Jason, let's get into the, let's get into the actual look at the numbers here on when are they, have they counted?
What is the press saying?
Have they counted the absentee ballots yet or how long will it take for them to count them?
That's a very good question.
And that was one of the weird things about this is I.
haven't seen much talk at all about, you know, how usually when it's a general and it's a
Republican, it's a very pivotal race between, you know, Republican and Democrat, they'll be like,
well, hang on a second. Remember, it could take days. I'm not seeing that on this. They're not
really saying that at all. And Michigan allows private- But it hasn't been, but it hasn't been
officially called, right? Has not been officially called. Too close to call. Okay. Now, imagine if they
starts finding votes, you're going to have all of these Al-Said people saying,
wait a minute, there's cheating going on. Wait a minute. What do you mean you're counting this
ballot? Wait a minute. We want a transparent counting of all those votes. Al-Said is going to start
sounding like a Republican when it's turned against them in their own party. And honestly,
who doesn't believe that the Democrats are capable of,
trying to sway this in account at the end against Said to be able to keep him out because they don't want him.
They don't want him.
And they have this pattern of doing it.
They did it with Hillary Clinton.
They did it, you know, against Bernie Sanders.
They keep doing this where they're just going to pick that.
That's the problem.
That's why Stevens was having such a hard time because she was, she was.
was appearing as though she was the favorite of the establishment. And so when the Saeed people
saw it, said, see, she's part of the cabal. Wait until they start finding ballots that are
changing this vote if they do. They're going to go out of their minds. Glenn, can I read you
this update from the New York Times 40 minutes ago? I'm just going to read this paragraph.
Says Haley Stevens is now trying El Saeed by fewer than 15,000 votes in Michigan. Oh my gosh.
Here's the interesting part.
Wait, wait for it.
After a batch of votes was reported from Wayne County.
I'm sorry.
I can't.
Oh, my gosh.
They go on.
While her statewide deficit has narrowed,
she would still need of very strong margins
and the remaining ballots to overtake El-Said.
That is a difficult path, but not an impossible.
Is it?
It happens in California.
All the time.
It happens in California.
California all the time.
It's a difficult path.
Only 15,000 votes.
You can find that in your sock drawer.
This is not a difficult path for the corrupt Democrats to find.
The question is, if you were sitting there and you knew you had the box of Stevens' votes,
then you're like, guys, we can do what we usually do.
Would you do it?
Because that is going to tear.
your party up heart.
I'm telling you these revolutionaries
will be on the streets.
They will burn
cities down because of this.
Guarantee it. If they find that she's
the winner, even if it was all
on the up and up, which it won't be.
But even if it was all on the up and up,
they burn the city down.
Mark my words. Mark my...
They will not go, oh, you know what? That was fair.
They will go January 6th.
This paragraph,
it ends out
this amazing paragraph, this update from the New York Times with this and see if this sounds familiar,
especially in California with the Spencer Pratt election.
Quote, she won more than 60% of this most recent patch in Wayne County.
Oh, my gosh.
Gosh.
Right.
Oh, this is going to be fun to watch.
Bad for the Republic, but fun to watch.
I wish I didn't like America because it would be fun to watch all of this.
You know, if you're in an enemy of America, you know, or El Said, you would love watching all of the stuff that's happening to us.
Because you watch across and you're like, I can't believe this is so stupid.
I can't believe they're going to do it to themselves.
They're going to do it to themselves.
Because, I mean, how are they going to react?
Are they, you really think that the left who thinks that the Jews are all in it, that everything is a conspiracy against them?
that and they were on the inside.
They know all the dirty tricks the Democrats do.
They've seen how the Democratic machine just takes people out
that they don't want to be the leader.
Do you really think they're going to go away happily?
No way. No way.
I can't wait.
Please count. Please count more.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall.
I'd love to be a fly out for weeks.
I'd love to be a fly out of the wall right now.
We're one count away.
We only have one more box.
Oh, wait a minute.
We just found another box.
I just please drag it out for weeks.
I'd love this.
I've loved to hear Bernie Sanders right now.
He probably sounds like one of these frustrated Republicans.
He's like, there they go again.
There they go.
Yeah.
Where are they going to find the next?
He absolutely is.
I'm telling you they're going to go January 6th on them.
Oh, this is a bit, you know, and you deserve everything.
For the Democrat, not our average everyday Democrat that is just a good person that just believes in higher taxes.
that I do.
I mean all of the people
who have been a part of this.
I hate America.
America's so bad.
You know,
all of this just derangement
against anything
that is good and decent
and wholesome.
And you're in that mix
and you're doing it.
Oh, it couldn't happen
to nicer people.
Please do it.
Please do it.
And you notice
that if this were happening
in the Republican Party,
this would be the lead story today.
This would be everywhere.
They would be celebrating like I'm celebrating right now.
They would be celebrating this.
But anyway, because nothing ever breaks really our way it seems.
He'll get it.
And when he does, I think that's still good news because it shows that it's not everybody is in lockstep.
Not everybody is in lockstep, which is really good, really good.
All right.
What else is there?
Oh, I've got to get two.
Oh, one more thing on this.
You'll notice what the second paragraph of this NBC News article said.
And then let me give you this.
Far left insurgency with Democratic Party scored another victory Tuesday night
with the co-founder of Progressive Sunrise Movement,
trouncing two establishment-backed Democrats in a contentious Michigan Party.
Okay.
So do you know who William Lawrence is?
the sunrise party.
Remember the sunrise party, Jason?
I know he did show after show.
Do you remember who they are?
What they're really responsible for?
That was Green New Deal, right?
They did that sit-in for...
Yeah.
Yeah, they're the Green New Deal.
Now, how do you get that in Michigan
with the manufacturing of cars?
It's a bold strategy.
I mean, it's crazy.
So, let's see.
Spokesman for the House Republican campaign arm
of the National Republican Committee.
said of Lawrence's victory.
Democrats' path to the House majority is evaporating in real time.
Every embarrassing defeat leaves them with a radical socialist nominee,
empty your bank account, and another must-win seat off the board.
The establishment's left main opponent has been the Democratic Socialist, blah, blah, blah.
Lawrence has the backing from Rashida Talib, blah, blah, blah,
also Bernie Sanders, yada, yada.
And they go on to say that it was financed by his opponent,
was financed, of course, by the Jews. So you have both stories saying that the Democrats,
the Democrats, the ones who are not the socialist, are all funded by the Jews. So you have the base
of the socialist are crazy, communist, socialist, and that is the stock. That is the real stock
of all this anti-Semitism that is coming out.
And the media is fine, pushing it down everybody's throat.
All right.
Now, we take a quick, 20-second, one-minute break and back for a couple of minutes to tell you some more things that are going on, including what Kamala Harris said.
We got to win.
We got to win.
We got to pull out all the stops.
But that doesn't mean cheating.
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So Kamala Harris is now saying, and I love this.
Kamala Harris has made a slate of suggestions to help the Democrats win in the future presidential elections,
including a suggestion that the party revisit the electoral college.
Now remember, this is how do we win elections?
Number one, change the electoral college.
2024 Democratic presidential candidate spoke to National Urban League conference in Nashville on Friday.
We should consider alternative methods.
Democrats should consider alternative methods to avoid cheating accusations from Republicans.
I know it's going to be controversial coming from me in particular, but we have to revisit the electoral college.
We need, which drew some collapse from the crowd.
We need to revisit the point of expanding the court to 13.
13 justices like we have 13 district courts.
We need to revisit if they want statehood for Puerto Rico and D.C.
Okay.
Here's what we need to do to win.
We just need to change all the rules.
But we can't cheat.
We just need to add two more states,
change the makeup of the Supreme Court,
and get rid of that electoral college thing.
And we're sitting and then we don't have to cheat.
I love that. I love that. We're not going to cheat. We're just going to change all of the rules.
Okay. Okay. Well, that good for you. Good for you. Let's see. There's a couple of other things going on.
I have to tell you, I'm doing an overtime today. What happens when the past disappears?
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No such thing.
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And they can go and they make changes
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They're going in and they're just changing those things
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So you don't know what was right, what was wrong.
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This is 1984.
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Before we get to Nate Friedman here in a second, I'm thrilled to have him on.
Before we get to him, let me just ask Ricky.
Decision Descendask has called the Michigan primary.
You've got to turn me off there, Ricky.
As called the Michigan private.
Ricky, are you there?
Can you hear me.
That's right.
835 AM Eastern.
They've called it for El-Said, and they are one of the most cautious election
callers in America.
Okay, so, but Haley hasn't accepted, right?
She hasn't conceded.
Not that I've seen. I'll keep you posted.
I mean, yeah, please do.
I mean, 15,000 votes, that's not a lot.
That's not a lot.
Usually that would never be called that way for a Republican.
I mean, they would have closed this down.
Why it's open now is beyond me.
Because usually we might have to wait days to figure out what happened.
Look what happened in the,
of the mayoral race in California.
Let me go to Nate Freeman, independent journalist.
He is also very concerned about the Islamic takeover of Michigan.
He spent a lot of time up in Michigan.
I've been watching your videos, the host of the Nate Friedman show.
Nate, how are you?
I'm good.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
What do you make of all of this in Michigan?
I mean, I find this good news that it wasn't a runaway.
Yeah, let's think about it, right?
So it looks like 15,000 votes.
And every Muslim I talk to there says they're voting for Syed, that's more than enough to make the difference.
I just ask the nation, do you see what's happening here?
So let me play this.
This is from a cleric in Michigan.
Listen to this.
From a mosque.
On the 4th of August, there is a very important election.
And I see one of the mandatory things, one of our responsibility,
that to support Brother Abdul Sayyid.
Abdul Sayyad, he is running for the Senate
and the other other
candidate, they supporting Israel, they supporting the Zionist
and all the Muslims, all the believers, men and women,
it is responsibility. It's mandatory to go
and to elect brother,
Abdul-Said, because at least we know he's a Muslim, he will support the Muslim issues here
in this country.
What do you make of that, Nate?
The Muslim issues in this country.
It reminds me of when I went to the UK and I spoke to voters in Birmingham, Muslim voters
in Birmingham, they say, we vote for Muslim candidates because they'll represent us.
And he told me that we're going to bring in Muslims into the parliament.
so that they bring in Sharia.
So American Muslims are less transparent about that sort of thing,
but instead I ask them, would you support a ban on Sharia?
And I haven't gotten a yes yet.
How much time you spend up there in Michigan?
I spent a day in Michigan.
Yeah, just one day.
And tell me about some of the people that you've talked to up there.
You went into supermarkets.
Yeah.
It's very closed.
Right.
So first conversation I had was with a man who,
owns a halal shop that says he wants the United States to be allied with Hezbollah.
He was talking so nicely about Hezbollah. I said, look, do you want us to be allied with them?
And say, hell yeah. So that was, that was pretty shocking because that's a terrorist organization that's killed Americans.
Another conversation I had was with folks who said, no, it's got nothing to do with the fact that he's Muslim.
I said, well, what about the fact, what about socialism? Are you guys socialists?
Is it? No, that has nothing to do with the election. And the, I've, I've got nothing to do with the election.
And Abdul Sayad is campaigning with Bernie Sanders in AOC.
He's praising Mamdani.
So he's surrounding himself with socialists, but yet he can still get by by saying he's not a socialist.
It's quite interesting.
So this is the red-green alliance that everybody knows about.
But again, they're not talking about it in the Muslim community because it doesn't mean anything to them.
They have no – I mean, this is – to me, this feels like in 1978, 1979, Iran all over again.
Yeah, it's Islamists pairing with leftists until the Islamists don't need the leftists anymore.
I mean, they've banned the gay flag, the pride flag in Hamtramic.
The city became majority Muslim, and what did they do?
They banned the pride flag.
You can expect this to happen across the nation until we vote differently.
So why aren't more people waking up to this?
Tolerance.
I think it's...
The conversations I have with people who vote left is that they are more scared of being called a racist than they are of death.
That is the consensus.
They are just terrified of even thinking that they're racist.
And Muslims know it and they use it.
Is this unique to Dearborn?
No, we've got enclaves like this.
First of all, Dearborn is not hardly an enclave, right?
I mean, it's a massive suburb with 100,000 people,
so we can't call it an enclave anymore.
However, you've got places in New York,
I just went to Little Yemen.
How many people know a Little Yemen even exists
in the Bronx in New York City,
where all the signs are in...
As you said in your video,
I only know it because Mom Dani put it on a map.
Right. I had no idea about Little Yemen.
I don't think many people did.
I'm getting so many messages from people on Instagram saying my city, my town has been completely taken over.
We have 20 moss within 10 miles.
People don't know.
And I will go and I will investigate what's going on.
Nate, thanks a lot.
Appreciate everything you do.
God bless.
Thank you.
All right.
If you haven't watched him, you should.
He goes in, he's fearless.
He's one of these guys are fearless.
He goes into these communities.
And he just asks.
questions and does it all by himself. I mean, not necessarily safe. But what he is showing you
in his videos are truly remarkable. People really need to wake up. This is, this is exactly how it
happened in France. It's exactly how it happened in England. And there is a takeover.
I mean, why would you come to a country? Why, why this country? See, our immigration is different.
we have always had people coming.
It's not easy to come here.
Why would you move from Somalia, the desert,
to one of the coldest states in the union?
Answer, our State Department did it.
Our State Department transported them there.
So why are you coming now
and you're putting up with the coldest weather that you've ever seen
and you're living in that and you're living like that?
And you're building this community.
And you don't, you've come from a place to where you are a refugee.
You come to a, come from a place that is in constant war.
And yet, you come here and you build the same thing and you support the same people over back home.
You're sending money back home.
You change the flag, the Minnesota flag, to look, I mean, it's not a coincidence.
I'm sorry.
You can say it's a quintuance.
It's not.
It's damn near the Somali flag.
Why is all this happening?
America, you're being conquered.
You're being conquered.
It's time for you to wake up on that.
And the socialists are bringing it in.
The socialist are the ones that have made this alliance.
It's called the Green Red Alliance.
Ricky, do we have somebody on tomorrow that is going to be talking about the Red Green Alliance?
Because the Red Green Alliance is the thing.
I don't think she can hear me.
Sorry, believe it or not, the IHeart studios in Florida were hit by a surge.
All seven stations, and that's where she's stationed, all seven stations are off the air today.
I've never seen anything like that in my whole career.
Don't comment.
You're so far behind, Ricky.
I've never seen anything like this before.
But I guess it's just par for the course today.
Today, we're going to show you on my after show.
We're going to show you some of the things that are coming.
This is one of the things that is coming, and they're all dogpiling on each other.
And it's strange because a lot of them have the same author.
There's something else that is going on, which I'm going to concentrate on today.
While this is going on, have you noticed that the surveillance state is getting stronger and stronger,
and it's not necessarily happening from the government.
And I've told you this years ago.
I said, the government is going to need protection.
The banks are going to need protection.
Because when this mask comes off,
if we don't have peaceful transitions,
if we don't fix it,
if they continue to stonewall the people,
things are going to get so bad that it will all fall apart.
And so what are you going to use,
the military on your own people? You'll try. You're going to use the police on your own people? Well,
if they haven't already been disbanded by socialists. So what do you have? You need tech.
You need tech to put everybody in a digital cage, to control, to make sure that we're all
thinking alike, all of this stuff. And it's all happening right now. And tech needs protection too.
Tech needs the government to be able to get to be this strong.
So that's the other force that is working.
You have the Red Green Alliance.
Then you have our own apathy.
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I like him because he smokes.
And I don't smoke.
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always had a cigarette in their hand.
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And like, and let me tell you something else, Kennedy did.
I miss that guy.
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because he's looking into all of where is all this funding coming from.
you know, act blue kind of stuff.
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No, it's not.
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on everything except for tobacco.
Anyway, Jason, where do we stand with the Iran thing?
Oh, gosh, does anyone know?
Do our negotiators know, does the Iranian regime know?
No, I don't know.
So this is the latest news.
We could be having an Iran deal Wednesday today,
which is different from our usual Iran deal Friday.
Friday.
Yeah.
But those are the rumors.
So I ran deal Friday.
One of the rubbers is that we might hear about specifically a Hormuz, straight of Hormuz deal today.
This has been going back and forth between negotiators.
Today, well, that's the rumor mill.
The rubers...
Today, Wednesday?
Today is Wednesday.
Wow, I forgot today was Wednesday.
Wow, okay, good.
The rumors on this deal specifically is just to get Hormuz open.
And what I've been hearing so far, I don't know if I really...
No, I don't really like it, actually.
But the deal now...
I don't like it either.
You're going to say what I think.
Well, the deal now is that we've talked about multiple different paths for tankers to go through the Strait of Hermuz.
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I don't think I like this, Glenn.
We'll see where it goes.
No, I know I don't like it.
But we'll see.
I mean, will it end this thing?
I don't know.
Will it end it properly?
I don't know.
I don't think anybody knows.
We get this crying wolf all the time.
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We've got a deal.
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And the socialist one.
Now, it's very close.
It's very close.
I've never seen it called so quickly.
But I will tell you,
the New York Times held up until about seven or eight minutes ago.
The New York Times has just declared El Saeed, the winner,
with 740,000 votes,
up against Haley at 726,000 votes.
That's a 14,000 vote difference.
You could find those in Wayne County without even breaking.
going to sweat. All you have to do is fine.
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. We just found
another 15,000
votes in a teacher's
car. She meant
to deliver them. They were just
delivered. But it has been
called now. That is,
this is both bad news and good news.
I think it is, it's good
news because it is so close.
What will that mean for the
general? And being this close,
will there any shenanigans that
were going on? You know, Charlie LaDuff, who I
just I love because he's like an old style journalist you know he's I miss the journalist who are
smoking who are on you on TV and they're like yeah hang on I got I got to I got to let another camel
and they're smoking and they're just they're just hardcore that's Charlie he's gone out to
Michigan and he has he has been tracking down all these act blue donors you know they come out
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slippers. Yes, what do you want? Did you just donate 150? What are you crazy? And he's just sitting
there interviewing with a smoke in his mouth, I mean a cigarette his mouth. I just love it. I just love
it. I hope he's smoking now. Not for you kids. Very bad example. But I just missed the
hardcore journalist and Charlie is one of them. Charlie LaDuff joins us. The
Michigan Democratic Senate primary candidates, Abdul al-Said. His campaign,
was it funded by fake donors?
Hmm, I wonder.
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What was that number again? Oh, shoot. I miss the number. I miss the number. I can't call
for details from the United States government on it. Anyway, Charlie, how are you?
I'm great, brother. How you do it?
You're smoking. I love it.
I love it.
I saw an old clip from Edward R. Murrow the other day.
I don't know what I was watching.
And he had that smoke just kind of making rings up off of the table.
And I went, where are those journalists anymore?
Where are those people?
And here you are.
Do you remember that bit from Saturday Night Live?
Martin's Short when he's on 60 minutes getting grilled.
He's got the cop bottle glasses in the theater.
Yes.
Yeah, I miss those days.
Anyway, Charlie, thanks for everything that you do.
I really appreciate it.
I think you're fabulous and you're exactly what America needs in journalism.
Tell me about what you are finding with El Saeed's campaign donors.
Let me preface it by why I'm looking, okay, because he fashions himself as the small donor king,
the grassroots swell.
He's the number one guy on Act Blue, you know, in Michigan, small donations from around the country.
80% of his money is from Act Blue and 70, 75% of the actual money is coming from out of state.
So I can't go out of state.
So I'll look in state.
Is this true?
Because he's the guy that wants to get money out of politics.
Okay.
You want to get money out of politics.
Where's your money coming from?
So we just, you know, we go into the FEC database.
We download it.
We put it on a spray.
spreadsheet. We run it. We have AI check it. Then we double check AI and then we double check each other.
So we've got 120 donors, average age about 75 in Michigan. And altogether in the last decade or so,
120 people have made three quarters of a million donations. Okay. So we pick one. And we go out to
the countryside and there's an old lady and her house is burned down.
She's living in a trailer, no internet, no computer, no running water.
And I was going to bring her the print out, but her donations were 15,000 over five years,
totaling 150 grand.
And I told her, I would have brought you the print out, but I ran out of paper.
Did you, madam, in fact, donate 15,000 times to the tune of $150,000 with no house?
And she donates and she says, Act Blue is the bank.
I go through Act Blue, but nothing, nothing.
Of that size, she was shocked.
So to wrap it in a bow for you, you want to keep dark money out of politics.
Everybody knows.
Everybody knows.
Act blue is corrupt.
We need to look at it.
And I challenged Abdul.
Listen, man, if you want to get money out of politics, return all the Act Blue money because it's elder abuse.
You're stealing Act Blue.
It's almost obvious.
I'm just going to say it.
You're stealing old people's identity and you're running money from unknown sources through
their names and it's got to stop. Again, one more time, Abdul outraised Haley. I'm rounding off
$15 million for their, you know, their general fund, their campaign fund. She raised 11. So forget
special interests and the super PACs. He outraised her. What's the source of the money? Let's go.
Come clean. Explain as I've done chalkboards on Act Blue years ago and said, we've got to look into that. This is
so dirty. This whole system is just so corrupt. Explain for anybody who doesn't know what Act
Blue is, what it is and why you can say with such authority, it's corrupt. It's a clearinghouse.
You want to donate to Blue causes. You can go on to Act Blue. It allows you to make a do. Nobody
can make a donation in your name. And you can't just give money and allow Act Blue to donate to a
specific individual in your name. You have to do it. You tell you to act blue to exercise the trade,
so to speak. Act blue allows you to re-up every month. You can schedule a contribution to somebody
every month. When it gets closer to elections, you can do it every week. So when, when this lady,
let's say she gives five dollars to Abdul al-Sayed, why is it the next day she's given five more
times and then two days later three more times and then four days later she's from another address
the apartment she lived in for a while when her house burned down so i ask her show me how you make a
donation on your phone she can't you know it's it's lovely it's she's 88 years old um and she's doing
this with the phone like it's a transistor radio like the batteries are bad oh this thing this thing
and she couldn't exercise the trade so there it's impossible for her
her to have sat there.
What is, I forgot the number, Glenn, but three to eight times a day every single day,
every day of the year for five straight years.
It's impossible.
So who's triggering these trades?
You have her name.
And I said to her, I said, Ms. Waffle, do you ever remember making a 50 cent donation?
And she goes, that's silly.
And I said, well, here's the printout.
You made a 50 cent donation.
It's impossible to do.
So again, act blue.
Money comes in.
It's supposed to be you.
They exercise the donation for you.
But it's starting to look like they've got your name and megadollars are coming in.
And you have no idea that this donation is being made in your name, which is tantamount to identity theft.
And it's usually very elderly people.
how common is this story in michigan i did one six months ago it was a a you know liberal woman older black woman
retired 77 she made 83 thousand dollars in donations and i said did you make 83 000 of donations
ma'am and miss ms appling she says what two dollars and fifty cents maybe eighty three
thousand dollars i don't know about that it was like just
Just mind-boggling.
And now that we're in the general, I am going to knock on 120 doors.
Good.
$16 million.
$16 million these people donated.
So when you look at the results yesterday, I mean, it is really close.
What does that tell you?
The national media is silly.
You're reading more into it that's there.
Oh, my God.
the socialist are taking over.
Did that look like a groundswell to you?
A 1% difference?
That's no groundswell.
So if you're really looking in the general,
where are the independence?
And as you know, come on, Glenn,
you talk about it all the time.
There aren't really independence.
You lean one way or the other.
So where are like somebody that wants to shift over?
From MAGA, they're not shifting over.
El-Sad's got the far left.
The votes are likely to come.
from Stevens'
Stephen's group.
So if there's 10,000, 15,000 people to be peeled off,
I think it's coming from the Democratic side.
So it's just not as wild as people want to make it out to be.
Can you give me any indication at all?
Because the Arab and black communities have been at odds for a while.
I don't even know what the beef is,
but they're not, you know, necessarily cut from the same cloth.
They don't march to the same tune.
And it appears as though it is some of the black community
that has actually swayed some of these elections
away from the socialist and away from the Islamists.
Do you see that in Michigan?
Yeah, like, first of all, the democratic socialism you're talking about,
that's a top-down thing it's it's white educated people who have archaeology degrees it didn't pan
out for them they're looking at it like their birthright they won't say it but they've been jumped
over it's not them it must be something in the system that's where science steps coming if you go
like working class up he doesn't do so well does he and you're absolutely right this is detroit baby
this is Michigan.
So in these CNN panels,
they talk about a black brown coalition.
That's just the people that went to the Ivy League.
There's no black brown coalition out here.
Blacks don't like Arabs.
Arabs don't like blacks.
Say what you will about white people.
You know, it's every,
there's no black and brown prison gang.
You know what I'm saying?
So every group's got its lived history.
And no, I mean, they're not going for a fancy.
pants. Let me put this one to you.
Syed's only had two jobs,
two, except, you know, taking away,
I go to university, get big checks to talk.
He's had two jobs.
One was the Detroit Health Director,
and once was the Wayne County Health Director,
of which Detroit is the biggest city.
He failed miserably.
You know, black people here know them.
They don't trust him.
And yeah, he got wiped out by him.
He absolutely got wiped out.
So I don't know if they go up.
Go ahead.
you say he's a paper doctor he is a paper dog he doesn't treat patients he's not it never has he never took
he never took his board exams he never had a practice didn't have a residency so you know he's it's an
he's an egghead doctor and he said i went into it he figured it was better for him to get into
the bureaucracy and fix it from there than to actually serve people so when he was
in Detroit, infant mortality went through the roof.
The life expectancy in Detroit, Wayne County has collapsed.
It's fallen since COVID by two whole years.
So tell me where this success is.
He was in charge of Wayne County.
60% of the vote went for Haley and Wayne County.
Yeah, that's Wayne County now. Again, Wayne County is about 1.7 million people.
Detroit's about 650,000.
So, yeah, you know, he got hammered in Detroit for sure.
Are they going to show up for the general?
I don't know.
It's great to talk to you.
Charlie, just keep up the good work, man.
Keep it up.
I don't want to go yet.
I've got other things to do.
I got to do.
And I don't get a smoke.
Go smoke.
Where are you right now?
Thanks, me.
Pardon me?
Where are you right now?
Where am I?
Yeah.
I'm in the mountain.
I'm in, I'm at my ranch up in, in Idaho.
Idaho, would you call it?
Where we just shoot people at hamburger places.
What?
You said, I'm a ho.
All right.
I'm leaving.
Go smoke.
Check what tobacco is in your cigarette.
We'll talk to you again.
Thanks, Charlie.
I appreciate it.
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hand. Sometimes it takes, you know, 40 minutes
to get to these plants. They ran just
exactly the way their grandfathers did.
Nobody died. Nobody was poisoned.
And every official who has
spoken says, water is safe. You feel
afraid to drink it. And I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is. Let me remind you, we just found a bomb at a
reservoir. It was just under the water line. I don't remember how they found it. I think they were
cleaning or something. And they found this. And it was active, but we've never heard anything else,
no follow-up on it. Somebody is targeting our water system. Now, who did it? FBI hasn't named anybody
yet. Investigators are looking hard at Iran, also at whether somebody wanted this to look like Iran.
We don't know. The president says he doesn't buy it. He blames Minnesota's leadership. Minnesota's governor
calls it modern warfare, a live war, an unattributed attack. Two politicians arguing, you know,
the forensics before the forensics are even finished. Here's what is not in dispute.
And this is why I'm doing the special today. There are things you must be aware of right now.
because being aware of them after the fact is not going to help anybody.
So the special today is to prepare you for what is coming,
and I don't know when, but I think sooner rather than later.
And this is another one of those things.
In November of 2023, a crew affiliated with Iran's Revolutionary Guard,
this in 2023, took control of a booster station belonging to the water authority of,
what is it, Alequipa, Pennsylvania, 30 miles out.
outside of Pittsburgh. They left a message on the screen. It said, you've been hacked down with Israel.
And they hit 11 American targets that way. Six water utilities, a pharmacy and an aquatic center,
also a brewery. That's where people start, especially around Pittsburgh. You hit a brewery?
I don't care of you're Islamic or not. You've just pissed the people of Pittsburgh off. Don't mess with them.
You hit a Permandi's? You're dead. Anyway, so how did the Islamic Republic of Iran breach our drinking water?
you're not going to believe this.
By figuring out the passcode was 1-1-1-1.
That is the factory default.
Okay?
Nobody changed 1-1-1-1.
They never put a new code in.
The device sat on the open internet, on its published default port,
findable by anybody on earth,
if you know what you're doing in about four seconds.
And then they put in the code,
one-one-one, and they got in.
my question was why is this online at all okay the box is a programmable logic controller it's called a plc it's a thing
that turns the pump on then watches the tank and then when the number drops it opens a valve light switch
you know with an opinion for almost a century that switch had a wire and the wire ran to a panel
you know that was locked up in this building if something went wrong at two o'clock in the morning
phone rang, guy had to get into a truck, drive across town.
I'm just looking at my engineer here because he knows exactly what this is like,
because we have a lot of our systems.
We're not online like this.
You have to go to the panel to make sure that we're safe.
Something goes wrong.
You've got to get there.
So when we connected it, we connected it not out of laziness, just from arithmetic.
There are roughly 50,000 community water systems in the country.
97% of them are small.
Yours might be run by two licensed operators covering 40 square miles.
And if the operator can check the tank on his phone instead of driving out in the dark,
the town saves a salary that it doesn't have to have.
Okay? Multiply that by 50,000 towns.
That's a lot of money.
Okay.
So we traded a locked door for a login.
And then we never change the password.
Now, the part that gets waved away is that there's an assumption that Iran is the backward country with a big mouth.
It's not a backward country.
You know, they've got sandals and down with America's slogans.
No, no, no.
Iran designed the Shaheed 136.
In 2022, they handed the design.
It's a great missile.
They handed the design over to Russia under a technology deal.
And they reported about $100.5 billion coming in.
Russians took it.
And they didn't just assemble it.
They rebuilt their entire supply chain.
and that's why 90% of the production now happens on Russian soil.
Moscow paid $200,000 for a drone in 2022.
Last year, a fraction of that, thousands of them are out every month.
Then it came back, came back around.
Western intelligence now reporting Russia is shipping upgraded versions back to Iran,
better navigation, better resistance to jamming.
Everything Moscow has learned across tens of thousands of combat sorting.
So Iran didn't just build a weapon. Iran ceded an industry and the industry sent home the improvements.
Now, there is a small first-person view quadcopter and there's a video going around that you should see.
And it's built from commercial parts that you can just order online.
A lot of them are Chinese, not Iranian hardware.
But that is the point.
The thing that we're now sending out into the sky, especially Iran and Russia and China, cost them what a decent set of golf clubs cost.
It's cheap, it's patient, and it's expendable, which beats expensive, sophisticated, and irreplaceable.
Tehran understood this before we ever admitted it.
These are little quadcopters that will hunt a man and they are relentless.
You've seen them being used over in Ukraine.
I want to be really precise on this because precision matters a great deal here.
We are not talking about the Iranians.
90 million people live there and a great many of them despise the people who rule over them.
And they go out in the streets and it has cost them their lives.
It's the regime.
ISIS wanted to caliphate immediately.
It burned bright and it burned out.
The Islamic Republic has had 47 years.
They have a treasury, a foreign minister.
they have a drone industry, they have universities,
they have networks of proxies and sympathizers all across the way of the West,
and they are patient and they are quiet.
The patience is the danger, not the shouting.
You're going to hear their leadership believes chaos hastens the return of the 12th, the mom.
Some reject that outright, but the hardliners, no, they don't reject that.
You know, when the government treats the collapse of the existing regime,
as a feature.
It doesn't weigh the risks the way we do.
Okay?
So, how does a confident city fall?
How do they fall?
This story is amazing.
539 before Christ.
Babylon, right in that area.
Babylon was the greatest walled city on earth.
In fact, the walls were so thick that the ancient writers said that chariots could turn around on the top of the walls.
Cyrus, the Persian, looked at them,
and understood he could sit, you know, outside until his beard turned white.
He's not going to get into that city.
So he stopped looking at the walls, and he decided to go upstream where the Euphrates ran into the city because, you know, that was the source of life.
That's what they drank, okay?
So he dug channels, and he turned the river into a marsh, and the water inside Babylon dropped about the height of a man's thigh.
the soldiers walked in up the riverbed under the wall through the waterworks herodotus says that the city was so large that the people in the center were at a festival dancing and they didn't even know for some time that the city had already fallen that the walls didn't help them if you read daniel in the bible um the fingers the writing on the plaster you know weighed in the balance and you were found wanting
That's where we get the phrase, the writing is on the wall.
Okay, it came the same night the river went dry.
The wall was never the way in.
The utility was the way in.
The boring thing nobody guards.
Nobody thinks to change the pass codes because it's not glamorous.
It always works.
Who's going to target this?
2,500 years later, we're still building walls and we're leaving the river unattended.
Now, now the war games.
Let me tell you about the war games we have done.
This is terrifying.
In July of 2002, the Pentagon runs the largest war game in American history.
Two years of planning 13,000 troops, a quarter of a billion dollars.
The scenario was confrontation in the Persian Gulf.
They hand the enemy team to a retired Marine three star named Paul Van Riper.
Van Riper looks at the surveillance advantage of the United States and decides, I'm not going to fight it.
He puts his orders on motorcycle couriers.
He signals aircraft with lights like it's 1943.
He passes coded messages through loudspeakers on the minarets inside for the call of prayer.
And our listening apparatus doesn't hear anything because there's nothing to hear.
Then he doesn't wait.
He fires everything at once, a salvo of cruise missiles that swamps the radars of the fleet.
Behind the missiles come swarms of small boats.
16, and this is in 2002, our warships, 16 of our warships in this game, sank, including a carrier.
Had it been real, 20,000 American sailors would have died before lunch.
Do you know what we did with that?
As we were losing, we stopped the exercise.
We refloated the ships.
We restricted what the enemy team was allowed to do, and we ran it again until we won.
Van Riper protested he walked out.
We ran the war game.
We lost.
Then we changed the rules instead of what we knew they could do.
You know the other version.
Before 2001, our own government rehearsed airliners as weapons.
Tabletop exercises, a drill at the Pentagon.
We set aside the idea.
It was too far-fetched to take planes and fly them into buildings.
It wasn't a failure of imagination.
Somebody imagined it.
It was a failure of belief that people would do things.
I'm telling you, Iran is a desperate nation who believes.
Which brings us why Washington has not fixed the water.
March 2023, EPA tried.
It told states to check their water system cybersecurity during the sanitary surveys they already conduct.
You know, like the one that we found the bomb.
Three attorneys sued.
Missouri, Iowa, and Arkansas.
They sued. They were joined by the American Water Works Association and the National Rural Water Association.
In July, the Eighth Circuit stayed the rule.
That October, EPA withdrew it.
Now, their argument wasn't stupid.
It was that Congress never gave the EPA authority under the Safe Drinking Water Act.
So, state drinking water offices have no cybersecurity expertise, survey findings that carry public notification requirements,
which means publishing a list of which small towns are vulnerable.
And the cost lands on the rural utilities, they're already broke.
So they couldn't do it.
And the federal government said you got to do it.
Well, we have to figure this one out.
They were right about the rule, a checklist administered by people who don't understand, you know,
what is happening in the local community.
We have somebody, they found the hole.
Something has to fill the hole, but nothing did.
2024 in November, EPA's own inspector general scanned about a thousand drinking water systems serving over 190 million Americans.
97 of them serving 26 million people had critical or high risk vulnerabilities.
Another 211 111 million people had opened portals visible from the outside.
1-1-1-1-1.
And when they went to report it, they found the EPA has no cybersecurity.
incident reporting system of its own. So partly no authority, partly no expertise, and partly because
there's no such thing, you know, as the water system. There are 50,000 of them. And they belong to
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slash Glenn. Hello America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Well, the results are in in Minnesota, or I'm sorry, Michigan. And if you haven't heard yet, they called it about an hour and a half ago, at least the New York Times did. New York Times called it for El Saeed. But it was 14,000 votes away. That's not a landslide. And that doesn't bode well. In my opinion, it doesn't bode well. There's got to be out of 400 and
26,000 people that voted for Haley, how many of those will not vote for Saeed?
How many of those were saying, no, not that guy, not that guy?
Don't know. I don't know.
But I do know that, you know, the average guy who was building cars in Detroit or is building cars in Detroit,
the average blue-collar worker, is not going to go with the, you know, the Islamist, socialist, highfalut.
you know, Rhodes Scholar. It just doesn't seem like a match to me. And I think there's enough
people that know what socialist is. They know what the Red Green Alliance is. And they're starting
to wake up in the Democratic Party and they don't want anything to do with it. So we'll see what
this means. I have Delano Squires on. He is, he's great. He's with the Heritage Foundation.
He is now the Center for Human Flourishing Director. He's just written a book called The
Vanishing Black Family.
And I really want to get his read on what happened yesterday.
And then I think he is, you know, his book is, you know, the Vanishing Black Family.
It's what happened?
How did this happen?
Especially since 1960.
If you know the stats and he'll go through him of 1960, they were, the black family was
healthier than the White family.
What happened?
He's on it.
We're going to talk to him in 60 seconds.
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It's good to have you. I'm glad you're in our studios in Dallas. I'm sorry I wasn't there to greet you myself, but it's good to have you on the program. Tell me what your thoughts are on what happened with El Saeed.
Yeah, this is an interesting race. I mean, obviously, a lot of progressive Democrats have been making headway in the party, and obviously the party is scrambling to figure out what to do with them. You know, as somebody who grew up in New York, I saw this first with Mamdani. I think he's a different type of politician.
So it is interesting to see others trying to sort of follow in his footsteps.
I'm thinking of Denise Lewis George in Washington, D.C., and it seems like El Saeed is a similar character.
Even though, from what I've read, he doesn't identify as a Democratic socialist and actually calls himself a capitalist,
but he takes positions that are obviously to the far left.
So this seems to be the left is going through something similar to what the right went through in the T-part.
era where you have that faction that wants to pull the party in its, you know, in a more
extreme direction if you want, if you want to look at it like that. And it'll be interesting
to see where the party ultimately settles out. But clearly a lot of people will surprise by
last night. I don't want to spend a lot of time on this, but it amazes me. You remember when the
Tea Party, they were just asking for lower taxes and follow the Constitution. And they were
made into crazies and that they hate America. They want to destroy.
the nation, all of these things, and they just went on and on and on about how the main party
just has to get a control of all these crazies. Here you have a party that actually states,
I hate America, I want to dismantle our form of government. And the press is just like,
yeah, well, they just have a different opinion. And let's see who wins. I mean, it's incredible.
Yeah, but I think that the left is going to have to deal with this regardless, because even the
people who they would say are more mainstream are still far to the left of the average median
Democrat in let's call it 1990. These are not Bill Clinton's Democrats. That's for sure.
No, no. So is this good news for, I mean, especially, I look at Detroit, anybody who is working,
you know, on cars, anybody who is a blue-collar worker, I just don't see them identifying
with El-Said. I mean, I don't see them identifying. I mean, I don't see them identifying.
with anybody, but I could see them. And if do you have any, and I don't know where I'm pulling this from.
So I could be horribly wrong on this, Delano, but I seem to remember that there is, there's no love
loss between the Arabs and the blacks. And I'm, I'm speaking, you know, big picture here.
Is that a misunderstanding that I have? Well, I, that's an interesting question. I think
the issue of obviously in the Middle East and Gaza,
those are big issues.
My sense is for more progressive
and especially younger black voters.
I don't know if it's as big an issue
for older black voters.
The interesting thing is that Stevens won
Wayne County, which has the largest,
you know, black population by about five points.
Right.
So it'll be interesting to see the exit polls
to see where black voters ended up with El Saeed.
but my sense is that a lot of voters across race, cross ethnicity, are concerned about
material issues.
And even conservatives, I'm looking online, conservatives are saying, look, the Republican
Party has to do something about affordability.
And obviously, Democrats are taking that message.
And I think their solutions and their proposals are ultimately going to be worse,
like city-run grocery stores.
But it seems like those kitchen table issues,
are the types of things that people are responding to.
So both the left and the right have to figure out,
okay, what is our affordability agenda,
both for young people who are feeling to squeeze
obviously at a different stage of life
and for middle age and older Americans?
You know, it's amazing to me
because I've said to the president
that, you know, he should be going for,
we're going to cut all of the federal regulations,
you know, except for the things that, you know,
get people killed. Cut as many of those federal regulations for housing. Build, build, build,
cut everything you have to cut within reason to get all of this regulation out. I mean,
the regulations for building homes and everything has, I think it is quadrupled in the last 10 years.
It's insane. Cut them. Cut them. Let people build again. That should be our answer is build,
build, build, build. And I don't know why the Republicans are not. They just seem really lost on,
as you said, the kitchen table stuff. What about my food? What about my gasoline? What about my house?
What about my job? They've got to get that message right. Because the socialist, they have the right
diagnosis. They have the wrong prescription. Yes. And I actually think the point that you raise is a very
interesting one because it touches on something of human nature. I worked 15 years in local
government in Washington, D.C. And just from my experience and observation, if you come to someone
and you say, okay, I know you've identified a problem in your life, there's an issue of affordability.
And if one of the responses is I'm going to cut government in such a way that it will
eventually redound to your benefit. And then the other person says, well, I'm going to give you
something so that you can afford the things that you want. My sense is that a good number of people
are going to take the second option.
Because getting something in hand...
Just the handout.
Correct.
And that's how conservatives will frame it as a handout.
But for instance, let's go back to housing.
If you live in the city, and the city says, okay, we're going to set aside $10 million
for first-time homebuyer programs or affordable homebuyer programs where if you go through
this training, you will get cash in hand.
I don't know.
Let's call it $10,000 or $15,000 to go towards your closing payment.
that to me is going to strike people as a much more attractive option than a different
politicians saying, I'm going to cut regulations that will, you know, down the road,
bring down the cost of housing for you.
So here's the problem, Delano, that I think that Trump is having right now.
He is, and you may disagree with this, but as I see it, he is redesigning the entire world.
He is, he's basically fixing the plumbing and rewiring the entire house.
None of it's sexy.
And if you own the house, it's the last thing you want to do is have a contractor come in.
When you just want to fix your house up, make it nicer, and he says, we really should start with the electrical
system.
It's a fire hazard.
And the plumbing is all shot.
You don't want to do that, okay?
But you have to do that if you're going to have a house.
And so he's spending all of his time on that stuff because he saw, I can change this quickly and
give stuff away or tweak this here and tweak this here.
but then after four years, it can all be done.
I've got to put the deep work in on the infrastructure to give us ready for the next century.
There's got to be some combination of that, and that's my frustration.
A, nobody understands that, and even if you do understand that, it doesn't help you while you're paying your bills.
So there's got to be some way to do a combination in, hey, look, we're doing this long term,
but in the short term, we're going to cut all the regulation, or long term, we're going to cut all the regulation so you can build.
But you need something to help you now.
So here's a $10,000 benefit or something like that.
I think if you can explain it that way, you could get the best of both worlds.
Right.
And I think that's a perfect analogy.
And to your point, as a homeowner, there's certain things that if they go wrong in your house, the infrastructure issues, yes, they're not sexy, but they certainly are expensive.
But if you're a child in one of the bedrooms, then I don't know, your bed is lumpy or is mold in your room, then you're, you're not.
then your thing is like I'm not I'm not actually as interested in you know whether the water heater is on on its last legs I want to address those things that affect me on an everyday basis first and I think finding that balance is the right thing so I can give you one tangible example even something like the Trump accounts right where where particularly parents yeah with young children can say I'm not open this account now even that you you will get an immediate you know thousand dollars into the account but you're you're
But in order for it to feel the full benefit, you have to rely on the benefit correct of the free market and compound interest.
So it's a challenge because I think voters across the board are often looking for the things that impact them in here and now.
Yeah.
It is honestly, it is the biggest problem that we face.
We are a fast food society and we have fine dining problems.
You know, I'm sorry, it's going to take a 10-course meal to fix this thing.
You cannot get it at the window as you're driving through.
But we don't want the 10-course meal.
We'd love it if we, you know, we set down and we ate the 10-course meal, but we don't have,
we have no understanding of it.
We have no desire for it.
We just need it right now.
And I don't know how you fix a nation like this if you can't get people to say, yeah,
we have problems.
And I'll bite the bullet.
If you'll give me a little help, give me a little help.
I'll bite the bullet, but this has got to work.
you know what I mean and show me the progress.
All right, I'm going to take a quick break because I want to, and if you don't mind, if you have time,
I'd like to hold you over at the bottom of the hour and give you a little more time on this book
because I think what you're doing is really, really important.
The name of the book is The Vanishing Black Family.
And this has been a theory of mine for a long time that how do you go from people who said no to the Civil Rights Act
to four years later being the ones who designed the great society that's so good for blacks?
That doesn't make any sense to me at all.
I just, I have nothing to back this up.
Someday I keep threatening.
I'm going to do, you know, the work on this.
But I think the guys who wrote that, I think they knew exactly what they were doing.
Because look at the result.
That great society destroyed the black family.
And Delano will back this up, his new book, The Vanishing Black Family.
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the name of the book is a vanishing black family, but I think the subtitle says it all,
how welfare and feminism made marriage optional and children vulnerable.
Delano, you just heard me say something that I've believed intuitively for a long time,
and I don't have any evidence that it's true.
But did you find anything that shows that the great welfare system or the great society
actually did the opposite?
and did you find anything that says there were some in the progressive movement that were
racist, were cheering for that?
So I will say it's clear after 60 years that the expansion of welfare, particularly for
low-income families, oftentimes targeted at black families starting in the 1960s, did a
tremendous amount of damage to the structure of the black family. And what I say in the book,
and this is in Chapter 2, I say that welfare displaced men from their rightful positions as
providers in their home. Now, I'll say this, Glenn, and I say this is somebody who worked 15
years in local government. I found that the besetting sin of elected officials and unelected
bureaucrats, for that matter, is more often hubris than it is malice. And I would say the same thing
about, you know, Lyndon Johnson, great society, war and poverty. It's the idea that, you know,
I as the president, as the commander in chief, as the leader of the free world, I can fix the
problems of millions of people who I've never seen and never met and I do not know by the stroke
of a pen, by increasing funding. And it's the idea that, okay, if we just give people more material
resources, their families would be stronger, not understanding the worldview that when you do
something like that, and particularly when you say that married couples are not eligible for welfare
benefits, you create incentives for women, particularly low-income women, to have children without
the benefit of a husband.
I mean, if I'm not mistaken, there were, and I'm not assigning, you know, any malice to it,
but there were those that would go to doors and say, look, I know you're struggling.
We can't help you.
But if you would just divorce, then you can afford it.
You can keep your relationship or anything.
but you got a divorce.
So they were actually pushing those things.
Yeah, and you can see that from the 1960s.
And even to today, right,
I recently did an event around Father's Day called Invisible Men at the Heritage Foundation.
And what I found is that even today,
guaranteed income programs for moms,
oftentimes write dads completely out of the family story.
And I traced that type of programmatic design directly to the well,
welfare system that really, you know, came into place in the 1960s. It's the idea that, you know,
the mom is the beating heart. She's the brain. She's the, you know, the nervous system. She's
everything when it comes to the family. The dad is the appendix. Nice if you had one, have one,
but not particularly necessary. And I think they ran that place first in the black community and
certainly has expanded to everyone else since that time. So you can, I mean, this is feminism that really
sounds like it was pushing that.
But, you know, when you're going in and you're dismantling families like that, I'm sorry,
why has there been nobody inside that has gone, hey, guys, this is not working.
You know, when you look at how our tax system is structured, you structure taxes to shape
behavior, you know, you say, hey, you're going to have to pay a cigarette tax.
You're trying to get people to stop smoking.
you shape behavior with that.
This whole thing seems to have been designed
to destroy the family unit.
So at some point you have to say, wait,
is there an agenda?
Why would they not dismantle?
Or is it just, I don't want to lose my job?
Why would I try to convince people to cut my job?
Well, I certainly think that there are incentives,
and I write this in the book,
I talk about the Iron Triangle,
between low-income moms, elected officials,
and unelected bureaucrats.
So the low-income moms get access to resources from the government.
So direct cash support, housing, health care, you know, WIC, food.
The elected official gets votes and job security, right?
They love to empower.
And then the unelected bureaucrat also gets job security because they are the people who actually
manage the poverty economy.
Correct.
Correct.
Now, who was left on the outside?
I named three parties.
I name women, politicians, and bureaucrats.
The party left on the outside is the man who in previous generations would have been the husband.
And now, as I said, it's written completely out of the story.
Now, you brought up feminism.
And what I say is that there was an interaction between these two cultural shocks in the mid-1960s.
So again, welfare displaced men from their rightful home, from their rightful role as providers in the home.
And second way feminism deceived women into believing that femininity is weak,
masculinity is toxic in men but empowering in women
that marriage is oppressive the home is a prison and children are a burden
and and from that lesson you get all types of things
that again disrupt the dynamics between men and women
which makes ultimately marriage obsolete and you know
at the end of the day children vulnerable
and it is amazing that that is exactly the message
they're now shoving on everyone
with that track record of what it did to the black family
unit. Now pushing that, and look what it did to the black society. Horrible, horrible results.
And now we're pushing that here on the white community and everybody else. It's going to have the
same results. Back with Delano Squires and his book, The Vanishing Black Family in a minute.
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Delighted to have Delano Squires on.
He is with the Heritage Foundation.
He's actually the director of the Center for Human Flourishing.
And he has a new book out called The Vanishing Black Family.
And I want to, before we get to the solution, because half of the book is about the problem.
The second half is all about how do we fix it, which I love.
So let me start quickly.
show us who the black family was, because it's my understanding, healthier than the white family,
back in 1960.
Who was the black family?
So, Glenn, one of the things that I write, and this is Chapter 1 of the Vanishing Black Family,
right?
And you would appreciate this as a historian.
I actually start with the history of American chattel slavery.
And I do that because my argument is that the institution of slavery and the institution of marriage
are fundamentally incompatible, right?
Marriage comes with a series of duties, obligations, responsibilities.
responsibilities, expectations, the expectation that I live with my spouse, that my husband will
protect me and provide for me, none of which can be guaranteed when you are owned by a third
party. You are your spouse's owned by a third party. But one of the things that I found is that
when emancipation came, formerly enslaved men and women traveled hundreds of miles to find
family members, took out ads across the country in newspapers to find family members.
And I actually document this in chapter one of the vanishing black family.
I document people finding spouses after 20, 25, 30, 40 years of being separated.
So again, I start there because I wanted to show that what happened post-1960s wasn't always the norm.
And the basic argument in the book is that the marriage culture and family structure that was the norm
from the end of the civil war through the end of the civil rights movement is now the exception.
and part of what I argue in the second half of the book is we need to get back to where things were.
Obviously, this is a, you know, go ahead, go ahead.
Go ahead. No, I was going to say, obviously, we live in a modern society and dating and, you know, norms and marriage norms have changed for everyone.
But it shouldn't be the case, Glenn, that in some, particularly in our largest cities, for instance, in Washington, D.C., 77% of black children are born to unmarried parents.
compared to 93% of white children born to married parents.
That is a 70 percentage point gap.
So for the people on the left who talk so much about racial equity,
my challenge to them throughout the Vanishing Black family
is to answer this question.
How is it that you demand racial equity in every institution
except the institution of marriage
and for every structure except for family structure?
So the problem is,
just like we were talking about before,
trying to get people to do the hard work
because it's not sexy and it's not fun.
It takes time and effort.
And especially when you have a culture
that is built on fast food,
built on fun, feel good,
all of this stuff.
How are you going to piece the families back together?
How are you going to appeal to the men and say,
no, you have a responsibility.
You got to stay in a...
You got to get married, stay married,
and not have sex with a whole bunch of women
and children all over every...
How do you do that?
What is the solution here?
So part of my solution is, again, to accurately describe the problem.
So I'm observing symptoms.
And I'm saying this is the diagnosis.
And two things really quick that I do in the first half of the, in the first half of
the beneficiary in black family is I speak to the issue of black leaders, the failure of black
leaders post-1960s to adequately address this issue.
And then I double click on that and talk about the failure of the black church to adequately address this issue and how the rise of liberation theologians and sort of you think of pastor Senator Raphael Warnock as an archetype.
Yeah, yeah.
These people are actually going to be impediments to rebuilding the black family, not assets.
So when I move forward to solutions, I basically call for all hands on deck approach to family reconstruction and call for a revival movement.
first and foremost led by the church and by pastors.
The types of pastors who still preach the gospel and believe the Bible.
I talk about the role of HBCUs, right?
So this is both in terms of research,
coursework around, you know, black family relations.
And even I'll give a very practical and novel idea.
I recommend that HBCUs provide their grounds,
the campus grounds,
for couples in the community to have weddings and receptions.
and all that the school would ask for in return is access to some of the photographs and the video
so that the school can then turn around and create on-campus messaging around the importance of marriage and family, right?
Because my argument, Glenn, is that the ring by spring and MRS degree culture, that is the norm at Southern or conservative Christian universities,
there's no reason something like that can't spring up organically at HBCU.
So I have to, I have to tell you.
you, you know, BYU is very marriage-centric, very marriage-centric, because they believe in big
families and children and, you know, that that is sacred, that unit. But the culture today
is pushes again, wait, you're in college and you're going to get married. What is wrong with you?
I mean, that is such a big boulder to push out of the way.
It is. Now, I could think of, you talked about B-YU.
I know graduates from Hillsdale Liberty University.
I talked to an intern at Heritage the other day.
She said she estimated about 55% of her classmates are either in long-term relationships
engaged or married by the time they finish the undergraduate studies.
Excellent.
And she said it actually creates pressure on those who are not.
And I said, oh boy, I would love that problem at HBCU.
I would love to deal with that problem.
So yeah.
So there's an institutional response.
one of the things that makes this book different than anything else that people have seen
is that I also name the political obstacles to a marriage revival movement.
Obviously, they include feminists.
They include LGBT activists.
They include abortionists because Planned Parenthood understands that close to 90% of women who seek abortions are unmarried.
So more marriage means less business for Planned Parenthood.
They also include big government liberals because for them,
them, the answer is not a different and stronger family structure. For them, it's always
more government spending to address issues in low-income communities. And then I talk about the
importance of media. And obviously, you would appreciate this, obviously someone in the media,
but I argue in that chapter, this is chapter eight of the vandshy of Black Family, that you cannot
sow Snoop Dog and reap the Cosby Show, right? Because I talk about the impact of
40 plus years of hip hop culture,
close to 35, 40 plus years of young men in inner city neighborhoods
who most closely identify with the artists,
hearing the people that they look up to,
referring to the young women in their community
as sexually promiscuous,
as all types of degrading names and terms,
those things are not healthy or are not good for healthy relationship bonds,
marital relationships or they don't create the types of environments where where couples can thrive
and children can benefit from both parents. So it's an institutional response. There's an individual
response. But the biggest thing that I argue is that we have to reframe the issue of family
reconstruction. And this goes for Americans across the board, not just in the black community.
But we have to reframe the issue of family reconstruction away from the desires of adults
and towards the rights and needs of children.
Specifically, the idea that children have a right to the affection, protection,
connection, correction, and direction of the one man and one woman that created them,
and that that right is best exercise in a loving, low-conflict home.
So it's about reframing the issue and then giving that message to the most important institutions needed
to drive cultural change.
It sounds like a must-read book and a must-have-on-your-shelf book,
the vanishing black family, how welfare and feminism made marriage optional and children vulnerable.
Most important part of it is half of it is just on the solutions.
Delano, if there's anything I can do to help you on this, please let me know.
Thank you, Glenn.
I so appreciate your work.
You're spot on on this.
Thank you.
Thank you, Glenn.
You bet.
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You know, I say this is, this is 1984.
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When you think of that book, what jumps out at you?
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Totalitarianists, we just went through this in 2020.
It was 1984.
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that's not the important part.
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But what we're about to head into, and this is again, seeing over the horizon,
if you're a fast food listener, this is probably not the show for you.
because I look over the horizon, I look for deeper and longer term problems and solutions.
You want to fix culture?
You don't fix that overnight.
How is culture broken?
Culture was broken a little bit at a time.
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It's going to take individuals making individual choices a little bit at a time to fix culture.
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When it all comes down to it, it's not going to be the big politician that fixes it.
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It doesn't have to be this way.
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