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Episode Date: July 3, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:16 It's pound 250. Say the keyword chapter or go to ask chapter.org slash back. Well, we've got a fascinating radio program up. The big, beautiful bills is basically on the finish line. Should pass the day. The July 4th deadline should be met. We'll get into that as well as so much more. It's Pat and Stu in for Glenn here on the Glenn Beck program. Hello, America. You know we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you. We work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth
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Starting point is 00:03:31 We are on the precipice of Independence Day. Oh. July 3rd already. Wow. Somali? I thought Somali and Independence Day passed a couple days ago. We were reminded about that by Ilana Mar. So you're right.
Starting point is 00:03:44 So why are? It's over. We're done. Okay. So never mind. That's the important one. There's also, I guess, an American one, too. I've heard.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But because we're all Somalia first, Yes. We had to celebrate. To be fair, it does occur first. It does.
Starting point is 00:04:01 It does. It does. It does. It does. All right. We got to talk about the big, beautiful bill, because it looks like it's going to pass, but there's a hurdle or two to get over before that actually happens. Will it happen today?
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Starting point is 00:05:45 Including the big beautiful bill. President Trump was a little unhappy overnight because there were some GOP holdouts on the bill. So he started to threaten people with, I guess, truth socials. I'm a true social you if you don't get on board here. And I think that was enough. And here's the thing. it always works.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Every time. Every time he does it, it just works. And you know, you can take from that what you will. I mean, we mentioned this the other day that like, I think it's outdated to be sitting here with this like, well, Republicans are stopping, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This GOP, the establishment is in the way. Where? Where is there evidence of this anymore?
Starting point is 00:06:31 There was evidence of this in 2017, sure. But like Donald Trump's party, and they do what he says. That's, they do. That's the end of the story. Like, there are a few people who will hold out here and there against what he says. And we see what happens with that. Like, with like, Tom Tillis, who's like, I'm not going to vote for this. Oh, yeah, we're going to primary you.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I'm already quitting. Like, that, that was, it was like an eight minute time frame. We're all about occurred the other day. It's like, all right. You know, and like, I think a lot of good outcomes come from that process, frankly. You know, a lot of times the opposition and, you know, the GOP and the establishment is there and it hurts these bills and and stops things that are really positive. But like, we're kind of fooling ourselves here. What occurs is Donald Trump says he wants something from Republicans and then Republicans give him the thing that he wants.
Starting point is 00:07:26 That's, there might be little, you know, addendums and quirks and little holdouts and drama, which we can go through. Yeah. go through the drama overnight. There was plenty of it. But like at the end of the day, what he wants something, he gets the thing that he wants. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:43 At 2 in the morning, he was out on truth social saying, largest tax cuts in history, and a booming economy versus biggest tax increase in history and a failed economy. What are Republicans waiting for? What are you trying to prove? Maga is not happy and it's costing you votes.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Then he posted again, all caps. Oh, see, that's another level. So he yelled at him on true social. For Republicans, this should be an easy, yes vote. Ridiculous. The pressure campaign appeared to work. Hours later.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Always works. Republicans voted 219 to 213 to advance the bill. Yeah. I mean, this is... There you go. Trump, I think, loves this scenario. He loves jumping in. He does.
Starting point is 00:08:26 He loves a fight. Yeah. He likes being able to get what he wants, right? And the fact that he is, I mean, quite clearly the most powerful person in the world. I think certainly in my lifetime. And even more than, you know, typical presidents, as you're noting here. Like, it's not, this is not like, I don't know, George W. Bush, who constantly was, had people saying he couldn't do the things that he wanted to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:51 You know, we mentioned the privatizing social security thing. Right. And a lot of things he wanted to do didn't happen. Didn't happen. It just didn't happen. He put all of his weight behind it and it just didn't occur. It didn't matter. By the way, it would have been great if it did, but it didn't.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Here is a situation when Trump does this. And I think this is largely speaking to Trump's abilities in this role, which is he doesn't care about being mean. He doesn't care about twisting arms. He doesn't care about what your little problems are or what ideological issue you have with what he wants. No, he doesn't. He just tells you to do it and you do it. And that is the party. You got a problem with your constituents?
Starting point is 00:09:31 Tough. Tough. Do it. Yeah. Just do it. Or I primary you and you won't have a job. I mean, that's, you know, I almost, in some ways it would be more dramatic if it were like House of Cards where he was holding affairs over people's heads. I don't even think it's that.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I don't think it's. I think he's holding truth social. Yeah. Social over their heads. That would have been a really terrible series. Yeah. Like, you know, you're watching Netflix and Kevin Spacey's like, I'm going to truth social you if you don't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Okay. Okay. I'll jump in front of the subway. Like I, you know, I, but that is what it was what seems to occur. And I mean, I think in this particular instance, there's a lot of good in this bill. Look, there are things we can complain about and we have complained about them. I don't think it's a great bill. I don't think Trump even believes it's a great bill.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I think what he believes is, is it needs to get done. Because you need large elements of it are good. And those things need to occur. so he is willing to, as a negotiator, put up with a bunch of stuff that he probably wouldn't prefer to be in this bill. But he doesn't have that,
Starting point is 00:10:39 he doesn't have that like need to point it out. You know, like a lot of these guys that are in the Freedom Caucus are going to be like, well, what about this, this spending? You got to fix this. You got to fix this. And then they just kind of fold at the end.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Where, you know, Trump is, he doesn't have that in him where he's like, I need to note that there are problems with this bill. He doesn't do that. He just says it's the best thing ever. And he's always, always done that. This is what he did with hotels back in the day. This is what he did.
Starting point is 00:11:03 You know, what he says about Mar-a-Lago. Like, I'm sure there's a bathroom that's, I don't know, maybe it's a little, it's inconveniently placed inside of the establishment. And in someone, you could say, you know, I really love this place. I wish that bathroom was a little closer to the main dining hall, but yeah, whatever. He doesn't do that. No. He just says it's perfect. And look, it works. It really does. Should we go through some of the minute-by-minute stuff here? Yeah. Pat? I thought this is interesting. This is from a punch bowl, one of those Washington insider email newsletters. It does look like Mike Johnson and Donald Trump will make their July 4th deadline.
Starting point is 00:11:38 That's another thing that we've been talking about on this. The July 4th deadline is not a real deadline. It was just a deadline that basically, again, Donald Trump just said, I want it done by this day. And so it is now going to be done today, which is July 3rd. Assuming Hakeem Jeffries, who's speaking right now, stops speaking at some point. That is the addendum to the thing. Here's a little bit of how he started out. To have a robust debate, passionate support or passionate opposition.
Starting point is 00:12:11 This gets truly agonizing. In connection with this bill. That hundreds of members on both sides of the aisle could participate. And instead, we have a limited debate where the relevant committees of jurisdiction have been given 15 minutes each on a bill of such security. significant magnitude as it relates to the health, the safety, and the well-being of the American people. Does it relate to the health of the American people?
Starting point is 00:12:49 Does it? I'm not sure. Well, Medicaid cuts. Millions of people are going to lose health insurance. Which, no. I don't think that's accurate. Even if it is, their prediction is basically that people won't file the correct paperwork. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:02 It's, come on. Which is funny because, you know, it's bogus. Pat, as you've talked about for many years, The Democrats just hate red tape. Oh, man. They just are opposed to a lot of paperwork. They want your experience with the government to go as easily and smoothly as possible. That's what they're all about.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah. So dumb. So ridiculous. Because that debate was so limited. So limited. Yeah, there's no debate over this bill. Months and months and months of debate. I feel the obligation, Mr. Speaker, to stand on this house floor.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Yeah. Uh-huh. And? And take my sweet time. Oh. Oh, that's powerful. To tell the stories of the American people. Take it time delaying the government.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Good job, everybody. And that's exactly what I intend to do. He intends to do it. He's going to take his sweet time. My sweet time. Yeah. Yeah. On behalf of the American people.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Oh, okay. On behalf of their health care. Health care. What? On behalf of their Medicaid. Their Medicaid, again, that's what he's talking about. The cuts in Medicaid, which are not existent. I mean, it's a paperwork thing.
Starting point is 00:14:05 On behalf of their new. Nutritional assistance. On behalf of veterans. Veterans. What is that? Is there a veteran segment to this bill? I haven't even heard of that. On behalf of farmers.
Starting point is 00:14:19 On behalf of children. Children. Well, the ones, you know, the few children that they don't murder before they're born. Yeah. Occasionally, some of them get through the whole process, unfortunately. A few of them escaped. Escape the home. The abortion people.
Starting point is 00:14:34 And they're, uh, in. incredible worship at the altar of abortions. Some of the babies have moments like in the Matrix where like the bullets are flying at them. They dodge the tools of the abortion and somehow escape the womb. He's fighting on behalf of those. Those few that get through that. On behalf of seniors. Seniors.
Starting point is 00:14:54 On behalf of people with disabilities. On behalf of small businesses. This is so ridiculous. On behalf of every single American. I'm on this house floor after. 6 a.m. And I'm planning to take my sweet time. Okay. So it'll be interesting to see how long he can go. That is the rule, by the way. He gets to speak as long as he wants. So yeah. And now it's not like some of these filibusters where you can kind of just leave and he has to actually just keep going. So he's got
Starting point is 00:15:25 and he can't turn it over to other people. Can he? No, I think it's just him. Yeah. I think it's yeah. Yeah. So he's on his own. He's been just reading like different testimonials of people. Like I, What about Bill? Bill Snogginfurgin, who lives in Pocatello, Idaho. Oh, it's the Idaho-Schnogden-Fergens. You know them? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Yeah. And they are not going to want to file the extra piece of paperwork to say they're looking for a job, so they're going to lose their Medicaid. All right. Well, maybe they should have filed the extra paperwork. Maybe. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I mean, I get, is it, think about what the, the Republicans are trying to do, and we'll get into the minute by minute of this here at a second, but like, think of what the Republicans are trying to do with the work requirements, right? We all know, we probably all know individuals who have gone on a government program and could have gotten off of that government program and decided not to, because why would I? If you, if you, you know, know, someone who's been on unemployment, who stays on it maybe, you know, a few weeks longer because they're getting paid to do nothing, right? That doesn't mean everyone who's on unemployment or everyone who's on Medicaid doesn't need it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:41 That's not true at all. I understand that there's a lot of people in need and having tough times. We just came through a president who destroyed a lot of people's lives, frankly, when it comes to the economy. So I know people are going through tough times. But like we all know that that's not everybody. And the effort here is to say, hey, if you're going to get this and you're able-bodied and you're within the age of normal working, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:06 working age adults, you have to show a little bit of effort to get yourself off of it. Right? And that just means, hey, like, are you going to pursue a job? Or are you sitting home, collecting these benefits,
Starting point is 00:17:21 you know, playing PlayStation all day? And, and that, like, it's reasonable. It's not everybody. It doesn't mean that everybody who's on a program is a bad person doing that.
Starting point is 00:17:30 But, like, it's an important thing to address. that type of situation to make sure it doesn't get abused. Another one is the disability program. There's been tons of reporting on places like 60 minutes where these roles have grown and grown and grown and people who are never intended to be on a disability program are now on it.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Yeah. Yeah, it's not like nobody's ever heard of the abuse in these programs. It's widely reported. With abuse. Right. And everybody knows it. I mean, billions, hundreds of billions, probably over years time. Hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars of abuse.
Starting point is 00:18:10 And so is it really outrageous to try to clean some of that up? Of course not. No, it makes perfect sense. But that's a Medicaid cut to these people. Yeah. It's silly. It's ridiculous. It's silly.
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Starting point is 00:19:35 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn, AAA 727, BECK. All right. So, the big, beautiful bill. Okay, so there's two votes that basically needed to happen.
Starting point is 00:19:45 There was some procedural vote and leading into the final vote. We are currently in between those two votes. We're waiting for the final vote. The procedural thing went well, it advanced. Yeah, here's how it went.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Last chapter of the drama over the last 24 hours had more twists and turns in the final episode of White Lotus, which I guess is a more current reference than House of Cards. Yes. But I've never watched it. No, I never have either. No,
Starting point is 00:20:07 I never have either. Around three, 20 a.m. after holding the vote open for nearly six hours while Johnson and Trump lobbied them furiously, several hardline conservative holdouts voted to move forward with the measure. This is incredible. You won't believe some of the holdouts. Some of the names are pretty interesting. Yeah. Ending the dramatic floor stalely. The holdouts included Josh Brasheen, Eric Berlison, Keith Self, Scott Perry, Bob Under, Andy Harris, and Chip Roy. Now we had ship.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Roy. On the show the other day, he was very much against what had happened in the Senate. Right. He had voted for the House version of it. It was against the Senate version of it. And he... Did he not say he would not vote for it? Vote for it.
Starting point is 00:20:57 What makes this, this goes on to this. What makes it so remarkable is that Harris, Roy and self spent a huge chunk of this week dumping all over the bill, only to vote for it with absolutely no changes a day later. It's incredible. Again, Donald Trump. Again, I get it. It's the power of Donald Trump. Yes, we all know what's happening here. Roy went as far to say that he wouldn't vote for a rule at all and indicated he wanted to revise the package and send it back to the Senate.
Starting point is 00:21:23 That's not going to happen now. We made, I love this. We made some progress on fiscal issues, self told us early this morning. The bill is exactly the same. What do you mean you made progress? He's got to say that, though, the same. face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I got to do it. This is Washington today. Yeah. And again, we should just recognize this is what it is. It's a difficult place for everybody, I suppose. The House Freedom Caucus caved once again, it's according to Punch Bull. They will lose a tremendous amount of sway in the wake of this episode. That's a bad outcome because the Freedom Caucus is a good influence on these bills typically.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And I think this is accurate, though, because when you say you're going to not vote for something and then you just fold with no changes, it's, you're going to. lose credibility. You've got to lose some credibility. Much of the conversation overnight centered around the implementation of the bill, the nation's fiscal trajectory, and what kinds of executive orders the Trump administration might issue to, soage the concerns of conservatives. And you may see some of that, right? Like, Trump may have said, hey, if you vote for this bill as is, I'll give you an executive order on this. Like, there's usually something that happens. If you remember, Pat, going back a long time, there was a situation that like this with Obamacare, where there was one or two, I think was one representative.
Starting point is 00:22:37 on the Democratic side that it wouldn't come along because he just was against funding abortion. Right. Remember this? I can't remember the guy's names. I can't either. Pennsylvania. Yeah. We'll get it in the break.
Starting point is 00:22:48 But he got screwed immediately. Yeah. They immediately promised something and immediately broke the promise. Yeah. It was basically like Obama will come out and he'll make a executive order, executive statement of some sort saying X, Y, and Z won't happen. He did that, I believe, but then it just immediately happened. happened anyway. It meant nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Yep. Johnson said the Senate made more changes than I anticipated. Thomas Massey was a one-man roller coaster for the GOP leadership. Thomas Massey railed against the bill all week. He initially voted for the rule to advance it. Then around 11.30 p.m., Massey entered a mostly empty house chamber and switched his vote from yes to no. However, Massey, who Trump has personally targeted for defeat in 2026, switched to back again to yes
Starting point is 00:23:39 when all the other hardliners flipped. That was this morning. He made clear he would like Trump to stop attacking him. Surprising yes votes on the procedural vote, including David Valdeo from California who represents a district
Starting point is 00:23:57 chock full of Medicaid recipients. He voted for the motion at 1120 as most the members were already gone. So it looks like it's going to happen. It's just a matter of of Hakeem Jeffery's shutting up at some point, and then the bill should go forward and get passed before the deadline. This is Glenn Beck.
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Starting point is 00:25:54 the final vote on the bill will take place as soon as Hakeem Jeffrey stops yapping. It's been going on, I think since 6 Eastern, so about an hour and a half or so. And he promises to keep going as long as he possibly can. So we'll see how long he can continue and delay the vote on this bill. Meantime, let's go to Gordon in Florida. Hey, Gordon, you're on the Glymbeck program with Pat and Stu. Hey, thank you for taking my hurt call. Listen, I want to let you know that I do not wish to be disrespectful to President Trump,
Starting point is 00:26:32 the Republicans, or the Democrats, but all three have not kept their word. First, Trump promised to end the Department of Ed that he's keeping the student lending arm, and the Republicans have not obeyed page 35 of the Republican platform, which prohibits my tax dollars used for student loans. And the Democrats, they have student loan bankruptcy in their platform, and they have not kept their award. So in our grandparents' time, they had no student loans, especially on my tax dollar. Okay, no fifth grader has student loans.
Starting point is 00:26:59 No other country has student loans. And college is now becoming unaffordable. And we cannot afford to send people to college. Okay? So without bankruptcy legislation return for student loans, which Article 1, Section 8 clause, four calls for uniform bankruptcy code, it's not going to force, there's nothing to force down the Department of Ed. And every time I hear someone say, oh, those students shouldn't have bank loans. bankruptcy. That reminds me of Nancy Pelosi. Oh, I want Second Amendment rights for me and my
Starting point is 00:27:27 private security, but you commoners can't have it. Article 1, Section 8, clause for, calls for student loans to be uniform, just like every other loan. The most important thing, and I need to apologize to Trump, is that the Golden Rule says that the way you want to treat other people is the way you should be treated. And so I owe Trump a big apology because he wants to bankrupt. Bankruptcy depends for himself. but not for students, okay? And so if student loan bankruptcy is not returned like it was in our grandparents' time,
Starting point is 00:28:02 there's going to be nothing to force the Department of Ed and the lobbyist back. We're going to keep spending. It's going to cost the tax. The student loan middleman and the health insurance middleman Trump promised to get rid of. He is not ending in the Department of Ed. I want Trump and the Democrats both to succeed,
Starting point is 00:28:17 but without bankruptcy returning to student loans, there will be no force under heaven that will stop the Department of the Department of Ed's. from ripping off students, taxpayers, and making college unaffordable, it'll rip off patients too. Gordon, thank you. Appreciate the call. I think, you know, if I think he meant, first of all, Trump and the Republicans to succeed, if he wants Trump and the Democrats to succeed, it's going to be a, that's going to be tough.
Starting point is 00:28:39 It's going to be a difficult road. Yeah. But what I will say, like, I want the government out of the student loan business. Yeah. I don't think they should be involved in it. I think it's been a terrible experiment. And it was obviously massively abused show by Joe Biden. to make it much, much worse.
Starting point is 00:28:55 But I want to focus on something else that he said, Pat. It is not disrespectful to Donald Trump to have a question about one of his policies. No, it's okay. You don't have to apologize to Donald Trump for thinking that one of his policies isn't the way you'd want it to be. This is actually how our country is supposed to work. You don't have to agree with everything that he says. It's totally fine. You shouldn't feel the need to apologize to him for having a,
Starting point is 00:29:23 a question, a problem, an issue with one of his policies. You know, I don't think that he expects that. Right. Like, you know, you don't, don't call up and say if you got a problem with the bill. Give us a call. 888727BECK. It's not a personal affront to a guy that you probably voted for. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:29:41 He's the president of the United States. He can take it. Every person I've ever voted for in my entire life. I've had policy disagreements with. Oh my gosh. Every single time. In fact, unless you are a person who is, actually run for office.
Starting point is 00:29:55 That's going to be true for everybody. And honestly, as we saw with some of the votes overnight, a lot of these representatives disagree with their own positions. The only person that I can't disagree with. And he's not currently reigning in the office of the presidency would be Jesus. Okay. Yeah. I would agree with everything he says, everything he does.
Starting point is 00:30:17 He went easily, I would think. Just follow him. Not under the Democratic primary. Short of Jesus. However, everybody else is subject to being fallible. Yeah. We all make mistakes and nobody's perfect and we don't worship Donald Trump. We just like him because he's done a pretty good job so far.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Take the things that you like and you say, hey, these are good. Yeah. And you take the things that you don't like and you say, hey, these aren't great. I wish he'd change that. I wish he'd change that. And, you know, by the way, Donald Trump has shown that at times he will hear what the American people say, particularly as supporters and change on policies. That's happened many, many times since he's been in office.
Starting point is 00:30:53 So, you know, everybody gets so, everyone gets so worked up about this stuff. I mean, now you could hear it in his voice. Like, I mean, he was worked up. And it's like, it's okay to just think that you think the student loan thing sucks. That's all right. There's a bunch. There's a by the way, to his point, there's a bunch of money in this bill for student loans. And if you're getting rid of the Department of Education, it is an issue.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Now, I will tell you, do I want the Department of Education to go away? Yes. have we had Linda McMahon on who told us that they were working toward that end. And we had multiple officials from the Trump administration on to say that. They all say that. Do I think that's going to happen? The answer is no. Do I want it to happen?
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yes. Do I think that there are people there working to try to make it happen? Yes. Do I think the four-year period will end with no Department of Education in standing? My answer to that would be no. I don't believe that that's going to happen. I will root for it. I don't think it's necessarily that they don't want it to.
Starting point is 00:31:50 occur. But also, if it doesn't happen under Trump, it's not going to. That's my humble projection. If it doesn't happen under President Trump, it won't happen. Let me change one word to your statement there, Pat and see if you still agree. If it doesn't happen under President Reagan, then it's not going to happen. And I mean, this is before it was codified. Yeah. And, you know, Reagan ran on wanting to get rid of it. And I think he really did. But it's still didn't happen. No. It's very difficult to get these. This is why I post things like these accounts that go to babies for $1,000. Once they get started, they're almost impossible to get rid of. Right. And that, you know, it's just a reality of the way this country works, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yep. So that's where we are. Let's go to Jackie in North Carolina. Hey, Jackie. Welcome. Thank you, Pat. Stu. I wanted to say that I think that paying taxes shows respect to those who are community helpers, and I think seniors, based on their assets, should pay taxes on Social Security. And I hope people can consider hiring us. I also think we should trade some lazy Americans for some motivated people that come here that want to work. You say it for legal immigration, is that what you're talking about? I think we should consider, like, you've got a month to get your stuff together, or we'll just trade you out for somebody else for, you know, a short period of time. and then when you get your, you know what, off your, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Yeah. I like the self-editing there. That was great, Jackie. Yeah, I agree. I mean, like, you know, that's one of the parts of the bill, which was a promise from Donald Trump during the campaign that he would not tax Social Security. And there's two ways to look at this.
Starting point is 00:33:33 It is weird, right, that the government has this program where they give you a bunch of money and then they themselves tax the money they've given you, right? It's kind of a weird process. Very weird. Well, because Social Security is a tax that's taken out of your paycheck, your whole life. And then you're taxed again when they return some of it to you? It's weird.
Starting point is 00:33:56 It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. It's one of those double taxes that really pisses me off. It's very strange, frankly. But, I mean, again, you know, this is, it was a promise made by President Trump. I think, you know, I am not a fan of these little. carve out tax cuts. I don't like a tax system that does that.
Starting point is 00:34:19 And I think it's certainly been like, generally speaking, the consensus for conservatives for a long time was to try to avoid doing that when possible. Yeah. That's why, you know, the no taxes on tips thing is it's not, I don't, it's not going to get me all riled up. It's a very small part of this bill. Yeah. It was a promise that Donald Trump made to win Nevada. It was him purchasing the state of Nevada in the election. By the way, I really wanted him to win the state of Nevada.
Starting point is 00:34:42 So I, I liked the outcome of this. that. And it worked, right? He won the state of Nevada. That being said, it doesn't make much sense to me. He's a guy, I worked in a restaurant, Pat, back in the day. Yeah. I rocked it at Chili's for some time. And I, of course, was one of the star servers, just delivering awesome blossoms and chicken crisper's difficult folks all across the South Florida area at the time. And I was getting tip money. Now, of course, one of the things you note, and of course I never participated in this, but not everybody claims all their tips anyway. I got news for you. If you've ever worked at a restaurant, the tip thing, there's already a lot of
Starting point is 00:35:23 no taxes on tips going on. That's part one. Part two is as I worked out in the front, you know, getting tips, the people who were making the awesome blossoms and the chicken crisper's didn't get the tips. Now, there was some tips sharing. I don't remember exactly how that worked, but generally speaking, they were more hourly than you are when you're working as a server. You're getting your money and tips. And do they get more because they're not being a higher hourly? Yeah, higher hourly wage. But it is strange, right, that they would get taxed on their income. Well, the servers would not. True. You know, it's a, it's a strange policy that was specifically put in for a very specific campaign reason. That is what it was. Do I hate it? I don't hate tax cuts. I'm glad, you know, servers,
Starting point is 00:36:10 as we pointed out yesterday, strippers, people who get tipped. I'm going to. I'm glad they get to keep more of their money, whatever, right? Like, and it's not unlimited and, you know, there's a lot of qualifications to it. You know, the same thing, you know, I could say that for a bunch of these different clauses. And when it comes to no taxes on tips and no taxes on seniors, uh, social security, which they didn't quite exactly do that way, but it's no point in getting into the details. The bottom line, though, is like, I like broad-based tax cuts. You know, I don't think we should necessarily be trying to micromanage behaviors,
Starting point is 00:36:42 uh, trying to say, oh, well, these people, you know, these people, you know, with this income get this and like that i think is a bad road that leads to lots of lobbying and campaign promising and things that are made for decisions that are not economic yeah right yeah so i it's not my preference but it's not the worst thing in the world i'm not going to lose my mind over it i will say this uh there's no pleasing democrats on this because on the one hand all of the tax cuts were for the wealthiest americans the wealthiest one percent were the ones who got the tax cuts despite the fact that every every single wage earner
Starting point is 00:37:16 in America got tax cuts under Donald Trump. And if they don't pass this bill, we're all going to get a tax increase. So that's one of the reasons it's important for them to pass the bill. So they hated the tax cuts to begin with. And now AOC,
Starting point is 00:37:32 who is a stinking socialist and we all know that, is calling the tax on tips, no tax on tips, a scam. Which is so weird. It is so bizarre. By the way, the Democrats immediately adopted that policy and supported it throughout the campaign. It was a campaign promise of Kamala Harris as well.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Because she just took it right from it. She just copied it. Yes. So Trump gets credit for it because it was his idea. Yeah. But she also supported it. And the bill passed. There was a bill on no tax on tips that passed, I think, 100 to zero.
Starting point is 00:37:59 And now it's a scam. Now it's a scam. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Unbelievable. The other one was no tax on overtime was the other promise that he made.
Starting point is 00:38:06 I was trying to remember. That one's going to cost about three times as much as no tax on. tips. Oh. And again, like in concept, people working hard, working extra hours. But again, it's not a cost. It's not a cost. I should point out. Yes. That is true. We went through that yesterday and I agree with that. But the no tax on overtime thing is in in a vacuum, right? You're working an hourly job. You go over 40 hours. You get overtime. There's no tax on that. You love it. Right. Yes. If your situation remains exactly the same, you love it. Now, of course, economists are like, well, the economy will react to that. And so what they,
Starting point is 00:38:41 believe will happen, at least with some employers, is that they will lower wages and then say to essentially justify it by saying, well, you're getting more in overtime now. So, you know, it will even out or you'll still make more, but we'll get to pay less. There is all sorts of economic outcomes that come out of these policies. Which is why you try to avoid these little bits and pieces and slices and just instead go broad-based. But again, you know, it's not going to make me cry. I'm going to stay up at night being like, you know, gosh, no tax on tips isn't the optimal tax policy. I'm glad some people get a little bit more of their money, hopefully. We'll see what happens with it. Triple-8-727-B-E-C-K.
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Starting point is 00:43:01 We did touch on this yesterday, but I'd like to reinforce it today because when your liberal son-in-law comes over to your barbecue tomorrow or on Saturday and starts complaining about the cost or the $5 trillion debt that the tax cuts, making the tax cuts permanent is going to cause, you can tell them that is not a cost, it doesn't increase the debt.
Starting point is 00:43:26 So that is just me keeping me, keeping more of my money. It's not the government's money to begin with. It is my money. And they're just taking less of it. And what it also does when tax cuts happen is increase revenue every single time. I don't know if there's ever been a tax cut that hasn't increased the revenue. It depends on how long you want to wait.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Right. And what their argument is on this one is, oh, well, it's not as high as it would have been with the tax is being higher. And it's like, well, I mean, obviously these are counterfactuals. We don't, you know, we can't have multiple societies running at the same time. The point, though, is why don't they just freaking control their spending? If, like, let's say this, Pat, if they cut our, that's not going to happen. If they cut our taxes to zero, it took zero dollars in. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Right. Right. They would, they would have, uh, all, all spending would be debt. Right. Mm-hmm. That is what they're doing. Separate from what we're doing. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:29 If they take all of our money, they'd have lots and lots of money. But if they increase the spending past what we gave them, it would still be debt. However, if they took all of our money, the economy wouldn't be that great. No? You know? Yeah. No. It wouldn't be really, really bad.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Look at how the Soviet Union is thriving. Oh, wow. They're doing great. Hard thing, though. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I haven't heard from them in a while, but not like 34 years or so. It's been.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Yeah. Really since the, like, the Soviet. We'll have to check on them. Somebody put a mirror up to their nose and see if they're still breathing. Wellness check. This is Glenn Beck. This was shocking to me. I'm going to be on after this program with Megan Kelly.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Oh. What is Megan Kelly doing working on July 3rd? That's a really good question. That's a really good question to her in the interview. I mean, you could say the same thing about us. Right. It's, uh, for her, it's even more. But I mean, technically on this show, I obviously,
Starting point is 00:45:40 on the show regular. You have your show Pat Gray Unleashed. But Pac-Gray Unleashed is not airing today. That's true. Sudas America is not airing today. We are filling in here on this particular program. Yes. And maybe it's just like rocking her normal show on July 3rd. Crazy. I mean... That's crazy. There's a lot of news going on. I know Glenn would love to be here to talk about it as well. But like, I guess maybe that's it. Something came up.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Yeah, he's busy. He's busy. He's busy. Unlike Hillary. Who does care? Something we didn't get to on the show. yesterday. The University of Pennsylvania actually apologized for allowing a male to compete against female athletes. It's pretty incredible. We'll dive into that and much more.
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Starting point is 00:48:51 I did not. I didn't see this one coming. This is great. know we were just talking last hour about how powerful President Trump is. Here's another indication of that. To get an apology and a change in policy out of the University of Pennsylvania
Starting point is 00:49:08 probably helps that he attended the University of Pennsylvania too. I don't know. He went to the board and business school at UPenn. So maybe that had something to do with it. Maybe, but he's had this situation with other Ivy League schools. I mean, I think this is not This is not been uncommon. He's just plain winning. A lot of these issues,
Starting point is 00:49:29 especially the last month or so. He has won virtually every showdown that he has faced. But transgender athletes at the University of Pennsylvania will no longer be able to compete for the school's women's teams. What a concept. Following a new agreement between the university and the U.S. Department of Education. The university will also strip transgender competitors of historical credit for past accomplishments in the form of program awards or records.
Starting point is 00:50:00 So all the times when Leah Thomas beat females in competitions and she won a national championship in swimming, that goes away. Now, I don't know if the NCAA is going to do the same thing. I kind of doubt it. I don't think they have yet. But as far as UPenn's concerned, it didn't happen. they've taken all of that away and and so they've changed the records. Under the agreement, they agreed to restore two female athletes,
Starting point is 00:50:33 all individual Penn Division I swimming records, titles, or similar recognitions, which were misappropriated by male athletes allowed to compete in female categories. I don't know how many male athletes have competed at UPenn other than Leah Thomas, but they say athletes, plural. here. Today's resolution agreement with UPenn is yet another example of the Trump effect in action. Thanks to the leadership of President Trump,
Starting point is 00:51:01 Penn has agreed to both apologize for its past Title IX violations and to ensure that women's sports are protected at the university for future generations of female athletes. Today is a great victory for women and girls, not only at the University
Starting point is 00:51:16 of Pennsylvania, but all across our nation. Pretty stunning, really. Pretty stunning. Sure is. Sure is, especially when there's no scientific evidence whatsoever that males are better at sports than females. Right. There's no reason to do this because here's a woman competing against other women, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah, she used to be a man, but that gives her no special advantage. And was she ever really a man? That's my question, Pat. Because she was certainly born in the wrong body. Oh, thank you. Okay. She. Thank you for acknowledging that.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Exactly. And actually, the real crime. Was forced to compete against men for a time. That's the crime. And didn't do well there. No. Like, last place. It wasn't good at all.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And, uh... Why? Because it was a she. She, but he was a sheet. But we should also note, there's no difference. We should note that. We should note that. There's no difference whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:52:19 No scientific evidence at all. None. No. Has ever been. produced. I've got some circumstantial sort of, uh, oh gosh, here we go. Situational. Can we do some science? Evidence. All right. Give me your, all right. Give me your anecdotal evidence, quote, unquote. Okay. Yes. This is all anecdotal. You're right. I've never noticed it. I've never noticed it in my entire life. That there's any difference between men and women in sports?
Starting point is 00:52:43 No difference at all. That's, that's been my experience, but maybe you have some evidence that will change my mind. Well, we've just recently seen the total destruction of the women. Swiss national soccer team who lost to an under 15. So these are 14 and under boys and they just beat the women's Swiss national team
Starting point is 00:53:04 7 to 1, which is a brutal beating in soccer. 1 to nothing is a brutal beating in soccer. 7 to 1 is like the worst defeat in the history of the sport. It's like 150 to nothing in football. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:22 In the first quarter. Yes. Yes. That's what it feels like. Seven goals. And people don't realize this, but in the entire history of MLS, major league soccer, there has never been seven goals scored if you add up all the games. If you add up all the games together.
Starting point is 00:53:41 There have never been seven goals. Wow. So that's even worse than I thought. But that doesn't mean anything because it's just anecdotal. Right. Anecotal. Well, in 2017, you might remember the U.S. Women's National.
Starting point is 00:53:52 team. The U.S. women's national team. A good team. A high level team for women. High level. Like number one in the world. Okay. Number one. Number one in the world at the time. Lost to the FC Dallas Boys Under 15 team.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Under 15 years old. They lost 5 to 2. Which again is another, it's another slaughter. Destruction. Yes. Yes. With 5 to 2. Five to 2. To the under 15 year olds. And what was the qualifier? The Dallas
Starting point is 00:54:22 the FC Dallas boys team FC so not It's not even a national team It's not even a state team It's a FC Dallas Dallas team under 15 year old Which I'm sure they're really good I'm sure they are
Starting point is 00:54:35 Again if Pat and I Put together a squad of We put Steve Dase and Jason Whitlock And Glenn Beck got a team Yeah yeah like you know They probably beat us They'd kick our ass There's no question
Starting point is 00:54:48 Probably beat us However that's not how the comparison should go you'd think. You'd think that you'd want to show that there was an advantage. I mean, you almost wonder why do these women's teams agree to these contests? I know. Well, the reason they do it is to train against good competition. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:09 You know? This probably does help improve the performance. Now, why would it help perform? That's the thing. There's no scientific evidence. I don't know why they think it would help them. That's stupid. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:19 It's ridiculous. To want to play against boys. Maybe it's just soccer. Maybe that's not a good example. Let's go to tennis. Okay. Let's talk about Serena Williams. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Wow. She's fantastic. One of the best tennis players of all time. Number one tennis player in the world. She's probably the greatest female tennis player of all time. Arguably. I think Navargellova. Navargova.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Chris Everett. You know, Steffi Greene King, Steffie Graff. There's a few. They've got a case. But she's up there. You can make the case that she's top five. Certainly all time.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Definitely. She was the number one player in the world when she, was on David Letterman's show to talk about because David Letterman brought up the number one men's player in the world and here's what she said men's times and women's standards are completely almost two separate sports so I'm like if I were to play Andy Murray I would lose 6060 in wait what five to six minutes maybe 10 minutes in five to six minutes maybe 10 minutes she loses six zero six zero it's no it's a completely it's a completely it's a completely it's a Completely difference worth.
Starting point is 00:56:23 The men are a lot faster. Wait, what? And they serve harder, they hit harder. It's just a different game. That's so amazing. There's so much about that clip. You've played it before probably years ago now. But it had been a while since I've heard it.
Starting point is 00:56:37 What's interesting about it is like she's completely comfortable admitting it. She knows. She's saying something that she believes is very obvious. That women are the same as men. She's not even pretending. And she's not like a hardcore conservative. We should point out. No.
Starting point is 00:56:53 But like, what's interesting also about it is both David Letterman and seemingly the audience are very uncomfortable with her making this point. Like they were, wait a minute. Even in 2013. Even in 2013. We allowed to agree with this? Yeah. And this is 12 years ago.
Starting point is 00:57:06 You didn't realize this? 12 years ago. Come on. Come on. Now, what's so, the other incredible thing here is that she's saying this when there's no scientific evidence whatsoever that it's true. She did have some other anecdotal evidence. however.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Okay. Because Andy Murray at the time, he was the number one man in the world. Okay. It's not fair to play the number one men's tennis player in the world. Now, why would it not be fair? It should be. Because there's no scientific evidence to support that there's a difference between these two genders.
Starting point is 00:57:39 But okay. But she did have some anecdotal evidence. Okay. Because back in 1998, Serena and her sister Venus, we're in a clubhouse at a tennis club. bragging about the fact that they could beat any men's player outside the top 200 in the world. Now, again, if there was no difference, you wouldn't need to have the qualifier of the top 200 in the world. That's exactly right. But that's still quite a statement.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Yes. Interestingly, Carson Brosh, the 203 ranked tennis player in men's tennis at the time. I've also heard other than this story have never heard of. They heard of Karsten Brosh. Right. He overheard them say that. And he said, you know what? I'll take you up on that.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Let's see about that. And they did. And Karsten Brosh crushed Serena 6 to 1, 6-1, and then thrashed Venus 6-2. Now, at the time, Venus was a little bit higher-ranked than Serena. She was number 5 in the world. Serena, I think, was number 20 in the world. But they were teenagers. They were like 18 and 20 or something at the time.
Starting point is 00:58:49 But he demolished him. And he said afterwards, I really, I really didn't play my hardest. Because he didn't have to. I mean, I'm surprised he didn't play him left-handed. But it's not difficult to find these anecdotal stories. But again, these are not, this is not scientific proof. It's just anecdotal evidence. And you can take it with a grain of salt.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Yeah. Let me give you some more anecdotal evidence before. because I know there's no science here, but let me give you one another piece of anecdotal evidence I stumbled upon yesterday. Allison Felix, she's an Olympic runner. She ran a personal best 49.26 seconds
Starting point is 00:59:31 in the 400 meter at the 2015 Beijing World Championships. That's impressive. That's fast. Impressive. Now, neither you or iPad could challenge that number. No. Would not be close? Maybe even in our cars.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Okay. Yeah. It's a fast person. However, in a Tesla, you can maybe challenge that. You can maybe do that. However, in one year, that number, 49.26 seconds for the 400 meter, was beaten over 15,000 times by men and boys. But just the 15,000. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:09 It wasn't 15 million. 15,000 in recorded events. Obviously, it happened a lot more in practice. But 15,000 in recorded events. Okay. Now, that's an Olympic runner. Really, really impressive. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:23 15,000 times in one year, it was beaten. Okay? So that's just a minor thing. But not science. No, it's not science. There is, as USA Today just told us this year, there is no scientific evidence that supports the fact that men are better at sports than women are boys.
Starting point is 01:00:41 And you could also look at every record in track and field. Yes. And you will also see. a difference between men and women, but again, that's just anecdotal. Like you said, it's not scientific evidence. I have one other piece of thing evidence I want to bring to you.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Okay. And if you could just you have your library with you, just pull this out real quick. It's the Journal of Applied Physiology. Volume 138, issue two. All right. And that's, of course,
Starting point is 01:01:13 January 22 and 5. And just flip pat if you could real quick pages 274 to 281. As you're getting that ready, we'll take a quick 60-second break, and then I'll let you know if there happens to be any science that supports this. But we know there's not. Well, I mean, that's what USA did. This is going to be a futile effort, obviously.
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Starting point is 01:02:50 We're doing the sexy programming here today. Getting the ratings with a journal of applied physiology, volume 138, issue one, January, 2025 pages 274, 2281. Read along. Shameless. It's just shameless. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:04 This is the sort of programming that we like. Okay. This is what the summary of the study says. Again, there's no science to support it. This is the summary of the study. There are profound sex differences in human performance in athletic events determined by strength, speed, power, endurance, and body size, such that males outperform females period.
Starting point is 01:03:33 I'm helping with the punctuation because you can't read. If you don't have the journal in front of you, you might not be reading. So what did you let you know? That was the end of the sentence. Okay. These sex differences in athletic performance exist before puberty and increase dramatically as puberty progresses. These sex differences are markedly greater in magnitude than the advantages that policymaking
Starting point is 01:03:57 bodies seek to eliminate when they regulate equipment or drugs that could enhance performance. And that's a really important part of this because one of the arguments they will say is like, okay, maybe there is a difference, the people that will admit it. But they'll say, well, if you start taking hormones or stop taking them. If you change, you know, we'll change equipment. All that is outweighed by just the fact that dudes do better at these things than women do. There's seven points that they make to summarize this. males outperform females in athletic events
Starting point is 01:04:28 dependent on skeletal muscle strength, speed, power, and performance. Male female performance gap is evident before puberty. Male female performance gap increases after the onset of puberty is associated with changes in body structure, physiology, and function. Surge in testosterone among males is the principal driver of increased male female performance gap in adults. Change in female body during puberty and Female physiology during athletic career can contribute to male-female performance gap.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Testosterone suppression modestly reduces athletic performance. But a large, significant male-female performance gap remains. When females use testosterone after puberty and train for sports, athletic performance is enhanced. But the male-female performance gap does not close, period. That's the end of that sentence in case you were wondering. I was. Thank you for that.
Starting point is 01:05:28 And I always kind of felt that maybe they might be right when they say that there's no science that says it, because there would never be a need to have a study that would tell you this. When you've got so much evidence. Everyone knows it. Your eyes. All human beings are aware of this fact. Every record. Every record.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Every example of men playing against women. And here's the other thing. How many trans women, you know, women now switching over to being a. man taking testosterone, all of those things. How many of them are competing against men in men's sports? To my knowledge, it's zero. When you get to the professional, it's zero. Zero.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I don't see it anywhere. I mean, so I've mentioned this example before. My son plays relatively high level baseball. And he is, you know, was in a tournament. And one of the really good teams in this tournament had a girl on it. And this is, I think, 12-year-old levels. and she was a pitcher. She threw harder than most players in the tournament
Starting point is 01:06:30 was legitimately impressive and actually hit an over-the-fence home run in this tournament where there was maybe three or four hit in the entire tournament. Like really, really good. Yeah. Now, at some point, now this is,
Starting point is 01:06:45 we're talking about the best female baseball player, certainly in this area, who's one person who was able to rise to a level where she's competitive, with a bunch of other 12-year-old boys. She's a very good player. This is not going to last. Now when puberty happens, that's going to change.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Right. She's going to get to a place where, and I don't know what her future is, probably playing softball and probably an excellent girl softball player. But right now, she's able to compete in that level, and good for her. And you know what? There wasn't any dad that I saw was like, damn it! No! Get her out of her. She's beating up on the boys because girls are superior at the sport than boys.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Nobody complained. It's not even. honestly, changing genders, it's the competition aspect. It's taking opportunities away from women and girls. After they've worked their whole lives to get to where they were and then you got it stolen by some guy who can't compete against the men. Now he's competing against you. It's just so unfair.
Starting point is 01:07:42 It's wrong. It's not to mention, which you point out, a big part of this was the fact that Leah Thomas was getting dressed in the same room as all of these college-aged girls, which was actually much more offensive than the scores and the times. This is Glenn Beck. You know me. I believe in preserving the things that truly matter, and there is nothing more valuable than your family and their memories. And Legacy Box gets that. They've digitized over 15 million hours of home videos and photos,
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Starting point is 01:09:02 Big Tech can't shadow ban your email yet. Sign up for the Glen Beck Newsletter at glenbeck.com. Pat and Stu, this is kind of an addendum to what we were talking about on the trans issue with the men competing against women. also sort of adjacent to that a little issue in Houston Beller High School the parents of a student there
Starting point is 01:09:49 have filed a federal lawsuit against Houston Independent School District because they violated their constitutional rights by continuing to refer to their daughter as a boy at school without their knowledge or consent so this started I guess when she was
Starting point is 01:10:08 freshman and the school started participating in her transition, in her gender transition, started referring to her as he instead of she renamed her. They won't say because they're trying to protect obviously the privacy of the student, but went from a female name to a typical male name. The parents found out about it at some point during the school year. went to the school system, wrote them letters, visited the principal, the teachers, told them to stop. This is our daughter. This is not our son.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Stop transitioning her at school. This is like, these are really crazy requests by the parents. Can you believe it? I can't. First, they're micromanaging what flavor goldfish are being brought in. And now this, this is what it gets to. That's unbelievable. You'd have to make that point.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Houston, Texas. It's not New York City. It's not Los Angeles, California. It's Houston. Now, you lived in Houston. Yes, for eight years. And you, I think, agree that it's not exactly, the city itself is not exactly a conservative place, even though people around the country might hear Texas and think, oh, I can't believe this is having in this conservative location. A lot of these cities in Texas are very liberal.
Starting point is 01:11:31 They are. Yeah. Dallas, Houston, tentatiole. They're all run by Democrats. So, although at Dallas, I think, did the mayor in Dallas, he switched to Republican, right? So, I mean, that's an amazing, that's an amazing development that he switched from the Democrat Party. But anyway, yeah, the inner cities, even in Texas, are run by Democrats. But this is in Bel Air, I mean, it's kind of away from the urban center of the city a little bit.
Starting point is 01:12:01 And you would think, all right, well, this is a little bit more conservative area. and you'd be wrong because they're doing this to these parents and they're pissed off. And I mean, this is why this is why we homeschooled for 23 years just because of this kind of stuff. You just, I mean, the things that are going on in public schools right now, and there are some great public schools and there's some great public school teachers. But there's also this kind of stuff happening that you just can't abide. I mean, at this point, you don't just do the lawsuit, but you take your child out of that school system, don't you? I mean, I would.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Well, we did. Yeah. And it was for less reason than this. We weren't at that point at all, right? I did the same. My kids go to private school. And, you know, I think the conservative movement made a mistake for a couple of decades, focusing too much on colleges.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Yeah. Where, again, like, you know, universities are important. It's an important part. Yes, it's true. A lot of our lawmakers, a lot of our elite professions are run almost entirely by Democrats, educated at universities that are taught by professors that are almost entirely Democrats and left-wing. Honestly, Democrats doesn't even say it, right? Like, a lot of them are just like, they're like Mom Donnie clones.
Starting point is 01:13:31 that being said and that is important most people aren't they don't even go through that like you know if they go to college they go to a much less prestigious university than something that is in the Ivy Leagues and and they might still get a lot of left wing
Starting point is 01:13:50 thought pumped into them and that does still happen but like creating a foundation earlier in the kid's life is really really important and it's something that was ignored for a long time, honestly, probably until COVID. And now there was always a bubbling around idea of something like school choice. It was always a conservative policy.
Starting point is 01:14:11 It was a priority. It was something that I fought for, you fought for, Glenn fought for a long time. But honestly, I didn't see much. There wasn't a lot of appetite for this in lawmaking circles. They, you know, they'd entertain it. It would be talked about it, think tanks, but it wasn't. Nothing would happen. Nothing would happen until COVID.
Starting point is 01:14:30 And world is. changed in a big way. I mean, Texas just added a big program. New Hampshire has a program. I think it's, you know, it's over a dozen states, it might be a couple dozen states now, where this, some version of school choice has been proposed and passed. And so this is changing. There's now opportunities for, for you in a lot of these states, if you have kids and you don't necessarily have the funds to direct them into a private school or for whatever reason you're not able to do homeschooling, which is an awesome option as well. You can now redirect the money that you're already paying for schools.
Starting point is 01:15:06 I have my entire life paid for both private school and public school for my kids. They just don't use the public school part of it. And if you don't have the funds to do that for whatever reason, now there are plans that can help you with that in a lot of these states. And I can't encourage it enough. Home schooling, awesome, if you can do that. if that's not up your alley, private school, finding the right private school, not just any private school, but finding the right private school, and we send our kids to a Christian school,
Starting point is 01:15:39 same thing. Man, it makes a massive difference. I can't tell you. I've had a few friends who have kind of converted, where I had their kids in public school, brought them over to private school. They rave and rave and rave and rave and rave about it. It changes the way your kids are. they marinate in goodness, you know, faith, you know, things that you just don't get in a lot of
Starting point is 01:16:04 these public schools. And that does not mean that there aren't great teachers there that are trying their best. And thank God they're doing that. But there are other options. And I think like addressing that, I say when we first put our kids in private school, I remember my thought process, which was, you know, things are going pretty well with the show. things are gone well like we can afford to do this I'm we're blessed to be able to do that and we're going to do it and you know worst case scenario if things you know break down you know Glenn starts drinking again or whatever uh which you know we always think is 50 50 and any given
Starting point is 01:16:39 week any moment uh any moment uh you know and things break apart and whatever career falls apart whatever it is the story is we still live in a good town and we can always put them in public school I have completely converted from that way of thinking to now saying, like, it's the best money I spend every year. I will live under a bridge and I will put them in this school or, you know, school like if we ever were to move before putting them back in public school. And part of that is just the environment has changed quite a bit in public schools. But part of it is just seeing, I think, the change, you know, you see your kids and they really are different. I mean, if you think about how, you know, homeschooling, there's a great argument for homeschooling, which is you're raising your kids and you are giving up your kids for a lot of their hours that they're awake to somebody else to sort of raise, right? Like when they go to a public school or a private school.
Starting point is 01:17:42 So that decision is really, really important. And doing that yourself is obviously optimal for a lot of people. But like, it's the same thing when you think about the difference between public school and private school. What environment are you sending them to for half of the hours they're awake every day? And if you don't expect that to have any influence on them, I got news for you. I mean, you probably worry about the influence a television program would have on them, right? Oh, yeah. You know, the music they're listening to.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Yep. You probably worry about that stuff. And then you can, you know, a lot of people just kind of think, well, this is my option. I'm going to send to this school. Hopefully there's another option for you. There's not for everybody. but we're working on that and working the right direction to make it more of a possibility for everybody to be able to choose the school that they want to go to and it's a great that's a great thing that's happened since COVID it's critical yeah let's go to Russ in New York hey Russ you're on the Glenn Beck program with Pat and Stu hey good morning how are you guys good well thanks I'm a seven time member of the US bobsled team I did skeleton one man on your stomach head first oh my gosh that looks that looks like you're just heading towards certain death.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Yeah, well, I'd rather be a bobsledder than a sore loser. That's a Winter Olympics humor there. I like it. Yeah, 10 years after I retired, I went up to watch a race and one of the young guns said, hey, come on, you know, let's see what you got. All right, challenge accepted. Now, I hadn't been on a sled in 10 years, took three training runs on a track that I had never been on before,
Starting point is 01:19:13 and raced and came in 11th in the national championships. However, if I would have raced in the women's national championship, I would have won the race by over a second, then the national champion and then the USA1 slider in the next year's season. That is phenomenal. That is amazing. That's incredible. I mean, is there any part of you, Russ, that's like, you know, I could put on a wig. I mean, this would be incredible. Give it a shot, do a little conversion and see if you can win a gold.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Thank God he's been sure it didn't come out until after that. I really didn't want to do an Einhorn. Thanks, Russ, appreciate it. That's awesome. Again, like, I, there's nothing wrong with women sports. I frigging love watching Caitlin Clark play. Like, I really do enjoy it. You know, I have a daughter who's in gymnastics.
Starting point is 01:20:06 She's great. Like, she does great, you know, she's incredible gymnast. She does things that I could never even conceive of doing. I mean, I mean that legitimately. I can't even conceive of the stuff that she actually does. But like, you know, there's a real place for women's sports and it's great. But why can't we just admit things that are true? Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:20:23 That's all we're asking. Exactly. And it's why there are women's sports. Yep. Right. You wouldn't need them. That's why we separate the men from the women. Because that would be the logical solution here, Pat, right?
Starting point is 01:20:34 Just let everybody play together. There's no WMBA. There's just an NBA. And when Caitlin Clark is good enough, which, you know, again, I love her. And this is not a bash. She would not be good enough. No, she would not. Of course, to play in the.
Starting point is 01:20:46 the NBA. That's not a knock on her. It does mean she doesn't have incredible skills, but she would not be able to make an NBA team or honestly, probably a Division I college team. You know, it's just the truth. You know, it's just a difference. So that does not mean she's not incredibly talented. She is. And the reason we know about her is because we have women's sports. And that's great. Yep. You know, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just like, because the, if there were no scientific evidence to support this, Pat, you could just combine them. And you'd have probably 50-50 men and women. Right.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Right. Yes. That's not the way it works out. No, it is not. 2.8-7-27-B-E-C-K. More coming up. You know, truth makes the left so mad. And right about now, they're all losing their minds.
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Starting point is 01:24:09 Go there now. Use a promo code Blaze and save blackout coffee.com slash blaze. It's Pat and Stuford Glenn today, AAA 727. B-E-C-K. All right. We've been talking about the women's sports situation because University of Pennsylvania actually did the right thing and decided that, you know what, men can't compete against women anymore at this university. Plus, we're going to remove all the records that Leah Thomas set in swimming here at this university.
Starting point is 01:24:51 Pretty incredible. Do you hold, let me ask you a push back a little bit on this and ask you this question. There's definitely fault here. There's no doubt about it. But is the fault properly placed on pen? Or should it be more thought of as a problem with the Biden administration? Because one of the things they said in their statement was, we were consistent with the rules at the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:18 And, you know, again, I think a university should stand up and fight it, right? But like, this is what the government was telling them to do. That's true. That's true. It was so bad that before. Biden left office. What he was going to do with this new ruling in the NCAA that the schools can now pay athletes, right? They can now pay them $20.5 million.
Starting point is 01:25:45 They can spread that out over their athletic programs. And so pretty much all colleges that are going to make the payments to athletes, they don't have to do it, but they can opt into it. So the colleges were obviously going to devote most of the money to football and men. basketball because those are the money makers and that's where you devote the most funds and resources. The Biden administration ruled before he left that you had to spread it out equally between the men's and women's programs, which President Trump has rightfully done away with in the meantime. But in the beginning, it was like, no, you've got to spread that out.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Well, that's assinine. Right. Because they don't bring in the same kind of resources that the men's teams do. So you're not going to devote the same amount of resources to them. So, yeah, I think the Biden administration was at part, at least in part at fault. Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, they should have, number one, I think they probably agree with the Biden administration. So I don't give them a break there.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Yeah. Number two, they should have, if they didn't agree, step up and say, hey, this is wrong. Yes. But, like, they were put in a position where if they were following the rules, this was the chosen outcome from the Biden administration. Which is crazy based on Title IX. for instance. I mean, Title IX really was passed for women,
Starting point is 01:27:12 actual biological women. So that you had to have the same amount of sports for women that you have for men. And so that's what it was initially for was because most, you know, most schools were devoting all of their resources to men's teams. And Title IX changed that. And so to go again, that and now say
Starting point is 01:27:34 nah now these guys can compete against the girls in girl sports it's fine. Bizarre. Absolutely bizarre. It's such a, and not to mention as we mentioned like what's going on in the locker rooms which in somehow the Me Too era is the right thing to do for women? It's like inexplicably stupid
Starting point is 01:27:52 but they don't care. Look it's one of the reasons why Donald Trump's president of the United States right now because people saw what was happening and were like no more of that. Exactly right. Beck. Triple-8-7-27 Beck is our phone number. It's Patton's due in for Glenn.
Starting point is 01:28:24 We were just, we got into a conversation about college sports. And now we haven't, you know, we're not ready at all for the hour of broadcast because we haven't talked about any of the topics. Like, unless we're going to do an hour on college baseball right now. Yeah. I think that's what we'll do. Yeah. Just an hour on college baseball.
Starting point is 01:28:40 I think people love that. Yeah. I think so. I really have gotten into it a little bit. I would. Yeah, I love it. You know, my son really loves baseball. You know, and so.
Starting point is 01:28:49 So we did a tournament. He had a little league. It was I think 11 U tournament in Omaha a few years ago and a couple of years ago now. And we went to the College World Series that year. It was when Wyatt Langford was there and Paul Skeens and it was that year. And Skeens throws, what, 203 miles an hour or something like that? It's incredible. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:08 And it was just really fun to watch. You know, it was just really cool. The whole city is focused around it. You know, I had never been really spent much time in Omaha. It was really cool. You can walk to almost every. everything down there. It's a really cool experience.
Starting point is 01:29:21 If you like baseball, especially if you have a kid who loves it, taking him there and like getting a hotel room in the city and just spending the city time in the city, it was really, really fun. Just a really cool experience. There's so many of those events around America. America's great. I hate this idea that it sucks. It's freaking awesome.
Starting point is 01:29:37 There's so much cool stuff to do. So do it. So do the cool stuff. Pat, let's do it today. 8-727-V-E-C-K. So Disney's not doing real well right now. Their Pixar movie just bombed. It was the worst opening of a Pixar movie in history.
Starting point is 01:31:06 In the history of Pixar, it's pretty amazing. I think it only had 20 million or something on an opening weekend. Elio didn't do well. Now, there's a couple of different terrains of thought on why the movie didn't do well. Get into that. We got RFK is eyeing some changes to. to the vaccine injury compensation program. Tell you about that.
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Starting point is 01:32:45 So, Elio, what happened to it? Apparently, that was designed to be like a, I don't know, trans movie for kids. Is that what they were sort of intending in the beginning? I don't think it was necessarily trans. I think it was... Oh, he was supposed to be gay. Coded is the way is the way is the way. Gay coded like so it wasn't right outwardly a story about a kid falling in love with a kid that was a boy, but it was hinted at they were going to do that.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Yeah, they were going to make it seem as though yes. If you read between the lines or whatever, that's what was happening. Yeah. Like those that worked at Pixar, this is from Hollywood Reporter, those who worked at Pixar when Ilya was in production were delighted by footage they saw roughly two years ago. among the moments cited as favorites by those in the animation studio at the time included a sequence where the boy collected trash on the beach and turned it into homemade apparel that included a pink tank top the movie's team would refer to eleo showing off to this hermit crab as a trashin show get it since it's not because he made the clothing out of trash um if you bought a ticket to ellio don't remember seeing this
Starting point is 01:34:01 it's not that you chose the wrong time to refill your soda to multiple insiders who spoke to the Hollywood reporter, Elio was initially portrayed as a queer-coded character. Again, queer-coded. Now okay to say. It was an insult back in the day. Not anymore. Not anymore.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Now it's the only way you're supposed to say it or something. It reflected the director's identity as an openly gay filmmaker. Oh, that's beautiful. Other sources said they did not intend the film to be coming out, to be a coming-out story as the character is 11. But either way. Thank you. Geez, I hope not.
Starting point is 01:34:36 I hope that's not the focus. Man. Either way, the characterization gradually faded away throughout the production process as Elio became more masculine following feedback from leadership. Gone were not only such direct examples as his passion for environmentalism and fashion, but also a scene
Starting point is 01:34:55 in Elio's bedroom with pictures suggesting a male crush. Hints at this trash fashion remain in the released film with a boy wearing a cape director, uh, dedicated, excuse me, decorated with discarded cutlery and soda can tabs, although without any explanation for the unusual attire. It is, of course, always a catastrophe when you make a movie and then try to like, rework it into something completely different.
Starting point is 01:35:20 Yeah. It usually does not work out well. And it didn't. My understanding of the testing of this film was so bad. That's what I heard too. That they had to change it. It wasn't just the leadership at Pixar or Disney. It was test audiences didn't like it.
Starting point is 01:35:34 They were like, I don't think I want my kids to be seeing this queer-coded movie. And so that's what, that was my understanding of why they changed it anyway. But it didn't work even afterwards. So, it didn't go well. You stand at odds, okay? Mm-hmm. With Sarah Ligitich. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Now, I know normally you try to align your goals with Sarah. I really do. But it didn't work out this time. Now, you know, just this is not for you, Pat. This is for the audience who might not be aware. But Sarah Ligatish, of course, is a member of the company's internal LGBTQ group, Picks Pride. Sure, Picks Pride.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Yeah. Now, there's really a necessary, I want to say this just up front in case people are questioning this. There is 100% really good reason for a child's movie company to have an LGBTQ group inside of it. That's definitely necessary to make cartoons for children. Incredible. You got to have that. You can't just have people who are just individuals,
Starting point is 01:36:46 who have individual beliefs, wants, lifestyle choices, all sorts of things. You can't have that. And just want to make a good movie for children. Just want to be artists and make great movies. Yeah. Can't have that. No, you got to have an agenda. Cording people off into little groups, you know, designed by who they want to have sex with.
Starting point is 01:37:04 or what private parts they admire. That's the way you do it. That's the way children's theater is presented today. Great idea. And I'm sure Sarah just loves that. But she was deeply saddened and aggrieved. Oh, no, I hate to hear that. She was aggrieved, Pat.
Starting point is 01:37:22 No. By the changes that were made. Don't say that. I, not just aggrieved, Pat. Deeply aggrieved. Wow. Think of that. That's painful.
Starting point is 01:37:33 That is kind of, kind of what's now they're saying like well that made the movie a disaster which uh you know of course you know superman too this happened as a version of this happened in superman too it's a different version but like superman two if i remember the story right and some nerd will definitely correct me on this but they started off the movie with one director he was kind of doing it more serious okay and then it was a they were having all sorts of production problems they brought in a different director who kind of rewrote it into a campy copy comedy. Is this two or three? I think it's two. Okay. Correct me if I'm wrong. Nerds Unite. Feel free to call
Starting point is 01:38:13 Triple-Ate-727 Beck. Is this the one with Richard Pryor? No, that's three, right? Yeah, I think so. Four is the nuclear weapon one, I think. Okay. But I liked two. Was Zod. Yeah. Right? Yes, I think so. Neal before Zod. Yes. It was that one. They had the three like anti-superhero, Superman superheroes. Uh-huh. The guy who could, the big tall guy who couldn't speak. Yeah. The attractive lady. Right.
Starting point is 01:38:39 And Zod. And Zod. And they were all up against Chris Christopher Reeve. Against Christopher Reeve. Right. I am pretty sure I've got this right. I think so. It sounds like it.
Starting point is 01:38:49 But yeah. And if you remember, there's a lot of goofy jokes in the movie. I don't know if you remember. Like it's, there's a lot of like slapsticky weirdness in it. It doesn't seem to fit. And that was because there were two completely separate directors, one of which came in after half of the movie was already shot or something. And so a lot of times that doesn't work well.
Starting point is 01:39:07 I like Superman too as a kid. It's been a while. I didn't too. I will say since I've seen it. It's probably, it came out, what, 79? Was it really that? I think so.
Starting point is 01:39:15 So anyway, I remember liking it. But it doesn't, so it could be part of that is the problem here. Like you start with someone who has a vision for a movie and you bring in, you know, all these changes. My understanding of the rating was very, very poor as they went through the testing to the extent of like almost no one in the test groups liked it now that's a problem that is a problem yeah you shouldn't always go through you know the panels of people and follow their guidance like a lot of times they might have you know opinions that aren't right and you stand by your artistic vision
Starting point is 01:39:50 sometimes but there are probably limits to that when your company is putting up a hundred million or two hundred million dollars to support your project yeah yeah i'd say so a superman too by the way 1981, June of 81. Okay. Yeah. Also, RFK, checking out some potential changes to the vaccine
Starting point is 01:40:10 injury compensation program with the stated aim of improving the ways in which vaccine toxicities are identified and victims compensated. He said, I brought in a team this week that is starting to work toward these changes. It was established in 1986,
Starting point is 01:40:29 the childhood the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. The U.S. vaccine injury compensation program is a no-fault system of resolving vaccine injury petitions. And he wants to change that. He doesn't want the companies, the pharmaceuticals, to be completely exempt from all of this now. And this also gives him an opportunity to get into the whole autism thing and where that's coming from because he still believes, it seems to me anyway, that he still believes that
Starting point is 01:41:06 autism might be brought on by vaccines that are given to children. RFK? RFK. I would say he's certain. I would say he's certain of it. He's certain of it. I will say one of the things like, look, look, RFK who was running for president against Donald Trump and calling him all sorts of terrible names.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Okay. At one point realized he was not going to win and decided he wanted to get. get a lot of power and there was one way to get it, which was to endorse Donald Trump. Okay? That's the story. Yes. And Donald Trump. He did offer himself up to both candidates.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Yes, both candidates. At the end of the process. Kamala first. We should also note, Kamala did not call him back. That is what occurred. And she should have. She should have. Now, Donald Trump was smart enough to say, hey, there's a slice of this population that has
Starting point is 01:41:55 some agreement with me on things, some disagreement with me on things. But bringing this over in a close. election is advisable. He embraced RFK Jr. And kept his promise to RFK Jr. And it seems to have worked out. Yes. It worked out certainly politically well.
Starting point is 01:42:08 Yeah. Yeah. The thing, and all of that is understandable. We all understand how that happened. That's totally fine. There's a big part of the MAGA movement that I would say is maha and is consistent with with, uh, with, with, with, RFK Jr's, uh, beliefs. What I can't take and I will say this is this idea that RFC Jr.
Starting point is 01:42:26 is on the edge of his seat trying to figure out whether he thinks. vaccines are causing autism. He's been consistent of this for multiple decades. He is not going into a process and I'm going to think about this. I don't know. Which way is this going to turn out? We know how it's going to turn out. He believes it and that's fine.
Starting point is 01:42:45 He does. Again, I, you know, whatever your opinion is on that, you make up your own mind. As long as he's not telling parents what they must do. Now, what's your opinion on it? Because I can't really read between the lines. I will say, it's, my kids are vaccinated. I feel fine with that choice. I'm not concerned about it.
Starting point is 01:43:04 Some people are. I have really good friends who work here who are much on the opposite side of that. And that's totally fine. You should be able to make your own choices for your own kids. And as long as RFK Jr., which he did say, he would not take away choices from parents. If he's consistent with that, whatever. I care about the government's recommendations on these things about as much as I care about their recommendations on the food pyramid.
Starting point is 01:43:31 As long as it's not at all. Right. Don't mandate either way. I am completely with RFK Jr. And opposing mandates on vaccines. Parents should be able to make their own choices on these matters. Yeah. You know, so as long as he doesn't violate the things that he promised, I think, number one,
Starting point is 01:43:49 I won't have a problem with what he's doing because I don't really care what the government recommends. I don't care. They also tell me to eat healthy. I don't do that either. Number two, as long as he doesn't violate. what Donald Trump, what he's promised to Donald Trump. And that was,
Starting point is 01:44:05 hey, stay in your freaking lane. I'll stay out of the global warming. Stay out of global warming and all of that. I will say there's always been talk about whether he's going to ban aspiratame, which I will say I've got a beautiful can of right here in front of me in my Diet Coke. Is he talking about that? I don't,
Starting point is 01:44:21 see, this is where I think the line is. Yeah. Donald Trump is not going to take kindly to trying to ban Aspartame. Because he loves that stuff too. He loves his Diet Coke. Yeah, yeah. So, like, I think if he stays in his lane, he'll be fine.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Some of the stuff you do, I will really like. Some of it I probably won't. But honestly, like, when has the HHS secretary made a difference in my life? I don't know. I mean, I can't remember it. I don't think. Happening. They make a lot of recommendations.
Starting point is 01:44:49 They say a lot of things. I ignore all of it. He has the potential to make a difference in our lives. He could. Because he really wants to ban certain things. Right. But he said he would. He, now again, I don't know, I don't, I have an opinion of RFK Jr. And his credibility on his promises in life.
Starting point is 01:45:09 So does his wife, by the way. And they don't like, they don't necessarily. You mean by that? What? Many, many of his female partners have opinions on his promise quality and find it to be lacking. Yeah. But that being said, you know, I think Trump will hold. him to his lane. Yeah, I do too. And if he does that, whatever. Like, I'm, so I'm not
Starting point is 01:45:35 honestly all that concerned about our opinion. I think that's a healthy attitude about the whole thing. Yeah, I think so too. I mean, and I think, like, you know, look, he did something important in the campaign. And he, and I think it did help. I think it did too. Now, now, I am not of the opinion. I don't see if you are. Are you of the opinion that Donald Trump loses without that endorsement? No, I am not. I am not either. So I think it was, I think it's helped. It might have been closer. a little bit closer. I think Trump still wins.
Starting point is 01:46:02 And it was close. Yeah, it was. I know we're a little bit too at ease with how close that election was. It's like how I feel sometimes after 5-4 Supreme Court decisions and I'm like, ah, we got them. Wait a minute. We were one person away from losing all, you know, religious freedom. I shouldn't be so confident in the 5-4.
Starting point is 01:46:22 You know, it was a little closer that I think we sometimes mentally remember. Yeah. Because we had a bunch of swing states that Trump's. swept. But again, his, you know, in the blue wall states that Kamala needed to win, the biggest margin in any of those states was 1.8%. So it certainly didn't hurt that he jumped on board. You know, maybe. Maybe it was the difference. And it certainly has expanded Trump's coalition to a lot of people who have traditionally been on the left. Yeah. And that is, you know, not easy to do. Triple 8-27-B-B-E-C-K. More coming up in one minute.
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Starting point is 01:48:13 And we were talking about RFK and the whole Maha movement. You know, we already banned Red Number 5 or 47 or 63, right? I thought it was 40. Have you missed it? It was maybe it was 40. Oh, no, actually 40. That happened during Biden, actually. Oh.
Starting point is 01:48:30 I thought that was RFK just recently. No? Maybe there was another one. I know he's been doing some of the stuff. There's another red. I think that he's considered. He's pressured food companies to get rid of that and some of them have. And you love the chemicals.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Oh, I love that. You want chemicals in your food. I'm fine when the food dies. I know. I know. Again, I don't care at all about any of that stuff. By the way, I like it. I like the fact that the fruit loops are super brightly colored.
Starting point is 01:48:57 Yes, me too. I want the blue to be vibrant. I don't want it to be blueberry blue. I wanted to glow in the dark. I want it to glow in the dark. I wanted to be actually nuclear soap. That's kind of me. Like, you know, I'm married it.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Marinated in nuclear wood. waste. I have all sorts of flaws. This is low on the list, frankly. But I don't, you know, it's not my concern. And I don't like that he's, you know, it was actually the Biden administration, I believe, that banned, at least that first one. Red 40? I think it was Red 40 that they banned.
Starting point is 01:49:22 Now, again, you look at the Red 40 research. Am I convinced that it's a problem? No. Does it have very loose ties to a small percentage of children having additional short-term ADHD effects? Yes. Is that a reason to ban something? I would say no. And most of the other stuff, there's almost no support for it.
Starting point is 01:49:43 That being said, it's not going to change my life, honestly, again. A lot of this stuff I fall back on it. It's not that big deal to either way. You just, like, is it something to fight over? Not really. Yeah. If you don't use it, the food is just a different color. You find a different way to color that food.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Yeah. And that's what they do in Canada. Yeah. Again, like I, from a fundamental standpoint, in Europe, right, fundamentally, I don't want to chase the policies of Canada or Europe. I found them to be negative. Yes. And I don't like, I like, you know, I like our old approach, which was, hey, let's keep everybody,
Starting point is 01:50:20 let's keep it open. Let's let people make their own choices. Yeah, all these things that you're talking about, by the way, we should note, are already on the market. Yeah. You can go buy, you can go buy fruit loops with all sorts of different ways of it being colored. There's all sorts of alternatives that are fruit flavored cereals that, that have. Or don't buy fruit loops.
Starting point is 01:50:36 Don't buy them at all. Yeah. So, like, that's how awesome our country is. Yeah. Without this rule, there are already dozens of companies that produce fruit loop flavored cereals that have different colorings than Red 40 if you don't want it. Red 40 is cheaper, right? It's cheaper.
Starting point is 01:50:53 So that's why they use it. It's not because they want to poison you or whatever. It's because it's cheaper and they can get, and they can make more of a profit and keep the prices lower. So Kellogg's is not specifically trying to kill me? No. Not, not necessarily. You know, I don't think that's their goal.
Starting point is 01:51:09 If you go and you, now, look, going to get, like, beats are one of the colors they use. Another one, there's some really gross stuff that they use, frankly, you know, crushed up bugs to get red flavoring as well. That's one of the natural flavors they're encouraging. Not my preference. I'd rather not have the bug flavors. But you could still find it. It is sometimes more expensive, though. That is true.
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Starting point is 01:52:46 Pat and Stu for Glenn today. I've been saving this topic for Stu. Thank you. I appreciate this. This is the end of my week. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So I wanted, I knew this is a hot button issue for you and would get you riled up.
Starting point is 01:53:24 Uh, because you're a huge RFK Jr. fan. I know you love him. Again, I know a lot of people do love him right now. I get it. They do. I, you know, this is... But it's strange because they might agree with RFK Jr. On one thing.
Starting point is 01:53:39 On one. Maybe two. It might be a big thing. Maybe two. But the rest, if you're a conservative and you were going to vote for RFK Jr., I'm not sure that was the best choice. Right. And look, because the guy's radically liberal on many, many things.
Starting point is 01:53:54 Right. And hopefully most of that is not affected in his current job. Yeah. Right. And so far, I don't think it has. You know, he stayed in his lane. Like, you know, a lot of people on the left are, like, freaking out. Like, he's changed the people on the, the vaccine approval board.
Starting point is 01:54:08 And, like, you know, there are also other doctors who are in the administration, like Jay Batasharia, for example, who is also kind of skeptical on a lot of, you know, what happened during COVID, for example, and all that. But it's, you know, maybe closer to where I am on some of these other issues. But, but, like, you know, they're all kind of working together. And I think anyone, it's just another, the reason I didn't like RFK Jr. as an HHS secretary is it's basically another full-time job for the administration to monitor him and make sure he doesn't go into all these areas. He's promised to go into his entire life. Well, right. That is, you know. And that is a concern. It's a concern. And it should be a concern that they monitor. But like, I mean, that's, it's, look, that's, that was the deal. This is the job. So that's just what they're doing. So one of the things that RFK Jr. has has thrown out. And it's a fascinating topic is the, autistic rates that have skyrocketed if you just simply look at the statistics from 1950
Starting point is 01:55:05 where the rate of autism was one in 10,000. And you look at the rate today, which is 1 in 31. I mean, that's significant, obviously. It's like massive. Massive. And, but what, yes. Part of the problem is that the one in 10,000 is probably not real because diagnostic, means of finding out that somebody has autism has changed.
Starting point is 01:55:32 The very definition of what is autism, and if you're on the spectrum, that's changed. Right. The spectrum to most people, I think, is a new term. Yes. Over the past few years. I think it is. A couple decades, right?
Starting point is 01:55:44 Where it was either you were autistic or you weren't, right? And now there's a spectrum. By the way, these are good developments. Like the fact that this part of it, I'm not saying, you know, the increase in rate is good development. But the fact that like doctors are looking at this in a much more nuanced way of understanding what's happening to each individual child is really, really positive. Yes. So that's a good thing.
Starting point is 01:56:09 You know, the rate going up obviously is not a good thing. Yeah, it could be a bunch of different stuff, but you know, you don't want the right to get higher, obviously. So you can explain a way, I think, part of the gap from one in 10,000 to 1 in 31. But if you let's say you take it all the way down to 1 in 1,000, maybe that's even too. I don't know, but that would be a reduction of 90%, which is, you know, who knows? But at that number, it's one-tenth of the initial estimate still. To get to 1 in 31 today, you would think, all right, something is going on, right? Is it something in the food chain?
Starting point is 01:56:45 Is it something if you discount vaccines? And I don't think there's a single study that really shows that, yep, it's coming from vaccines. I don't know of one. Yeah, no. They even looked into the mercury situation, the thimerosol. Yeah, that was a big one. That was a huge concern for people, and they took it out. And the anti-vaccines side, yeah, the anti-vaccines side basically won that argument.
Starting point is 01:57:07 Like, they were, hey, we're concerned about thimerosol and these vaccines. Yeah. So they won it. They took it out. And of course, as, you know, as those, I think a lot of those same people would note now, the rates have increased dramatically since that time. Yeah. So that, you know, doesn't seem to be. the case. Doesn't seem like that's the case, but is it so, is it food coloring? Is it preservatives? Is it pesticides? If you look into, okay, the way that we keep bugs off our food and all of that kind of stuff, are there too many lingering pesticides that are toxic to us? And that causes autism. I don't know. But something I think, I think there is something environmental that goes into this
Starting point is 01:57:51 and the increased rates. Yeah, there may be. I think, you know, they haven't, I don't think they've located it if that's the case. I think, you know, and you mentioned the increase in the rate. And, you know, some of it may be a diagnostic. We know for a fact some of it is diagnostic. For example. No question.
Starting point is 01:58:12 Example of this is Elon Musk. Elon Musk, if you, he has said before publicly that he has Asperger's, right? Yes. Well, currently speaking, no one has Asperger's. Asperger's because Asperger's was combined into the autism spectrum in 2013 as a diagnosis. Right. So like that's a big one. There's also another one called pervasive developmental disorder that was also combined into this.
Starting point is 01:58:34 So we know some of it comes from that. Some of it comes from doctors being more aware of it. And this is, you know, again, that part of it is positive, right? Like with the fact that we have doctors who are maybe understanding this a lot better and are able to deal with it in a better way is is overtly a positive. you know, they have found some stuff in genes, and they're able to find them when babies are in their fetal state, a correlation with autism.
Starting point is 01:59:06 Now, that would indicate that it wouldn't be environmental, at least that part of it, right? Because you're finding it before they're even born or eating. Strange. So part, I think it's a complicated picture. And, you know, I am all for some of these efforts as they're described. right, to come out and try to find what's going on. I know, you know, I was listening to an interview with Jay Bateshariah where he says, you know, I don't think.
Starting point is 01:59:29 Now, I disagree with RFK Jr. on, you know, the causes of autism was it applies to childhood vaccines. You know, that, and again, this is a guy who's a pretty skeptic, he was certainly skeptical of a lot of the lockdown efforts and the closing kids schools. Like he was on our side. He's in the Trump administration currently. And he says, look, RFK has a sincerely held belief. and I don't think there's anything wrong with looking into it and trying to find what the truth is.
Starting point is 01:59:55 I think that's what science is supposed to do, right? I think so. So I don't buy from RFK that this is a sincere effort that like he might just be like, guys, you're not going to believe this. Vaccines have nothing to do with it. My entire life's work was a lie.
Starting point is 02:00:11 You don't expect that outcome. And I also don't expect Anthony Fauci to show up and say, guys, by the way, masks didn't work at all. And wow, did I believe? Well, like, I don't think either of those things are going to happen. Yes. But I do think it's a great, like, it's always a good idea to try to advance science and get more knowledge when it comes to these things.
Starting point is 02:00:30 And he's promised some big study that's supposed to come out by September, I think it was. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So that'll be interesting. So that will be interesting. So that comes of that. Another interesting part of this, I thought, and again, it's hard to determine every single case.
Starting point is 02:00:43 You know, we have people I talk to all the time that are sure that they know what, what's causing it? individual case might be caused by. And like, you know, I can't even imagine. Like, if you're in a situation like that, it's really difficult to deal with. And, you know, one of the things I don't like about saying all of this is caused by vaccines is it puts a lot of blame on the parents. Like, you know, this is a choice that a parent has made. And like, you're saying, you're basically blaming them for this really tough thing that they're dealing with their kids. And I, it might, maybe that is the cause.
Starting point is 02:01:18 But that's, I don't know. I don't, that mechanism bothers me at some level. Like, I don't think it's not, like the parents, if the parents make a choice that they're going to have to vaccinate their kids and something bad happens afterward, and then you kind of apply that, uh, cause. It's not the parents fault. It's not the parents fault. And I think that's important to know.
Starting point is 02:01:34 It's been recommended by health professionals and you trust them. And, and, and, and, and they told me to do this and I'm doing it. And they torture themselves over these decisions. I know. And that's difficult. But one of the, one of the, one of the, another part of the diagnosis argument basically goes like this. they, when you get tested for autism, typically that happens early in life, right, as you're growing up.
Starting point is 02:01:53 And what they found is about a one in three, one and four, uh, one and thirty one rate. Was you say what was one and thirty one? That percentage is something like, you know, three percent, three point something percent. Um, and, and what they found, uh, when they test kids, that's the rate that they get. One study I thought was interesting is they decided to go and run the same tests on adults. adults who were in the period of time where the diagnosis was more like one in 10,000 and one in 5,000
Starting point is 02:02:23 and they ran the current diagnosis diagnostic tests on them as adults today. What they found was the rate was about one in three. So really? I've never heard that. That's an interesting. That doesn't prove, by the way, that there's no environmental facts.
Starting point is 02:02:40 But like, I think it's an interesting thing. It, you know, and it's what's tough about that, I think, is these parents, these adults went through their entire lives without any assistance, without any treatment, without any of the help that maybe kids today get. They survived. They may have even thrived. But like, would they have had a better childhood? Would they have been, you know, had they dealt with, you know, better treatment and maybe had a more flourishing life? later on, that's an interesting part of it, right? It is.
Starting point is 02:03:16 I think, you know, hopefully the kids today are getting that. So I, look, if it is, like, the best case scenario here is that it is something like vaccines, right? Something that is easily curable and understood. Right. And I hope they do find something that is like, okay, we can just pull this out, you know, like the Amerisol. We can just pull this out of the vaccines and everything will be fine. That didn't wind up being true last time. I hope it is something that we find.
Starting point is 02:03:39 And that would be great. Yeah. You know. Something that we could. can do something about would be awesome. Agreed. But you know what? Science and scientists don't know everything.
Starting point is 02:03:50 I was just reading an article this morning, in fact, that scientists are now saying they may have been wrong about the origin of life, that it may not have happened the way they think in some sort of primordial soupy goo that we all sprang from the ocean because of the chemicals in the water and said life started that way. Now they're starting to doubt that and say, no, it might have happened some other way. I mean, they're certainly not going to go toward divine methods that started life. But it's fascinating that they continually tell us that they know virtually everything and there's consensus.
Starting point is 02:04:27 And then we find out down the road, no, we don't know that. We don't know that at all. It's the origins of life right now. The Big Bang theory has been called into question by scientists. Einstein's theory of a static universe that it's the same, that's out the window. But don't ever challenge them. Don't you dare challenge them on climate change.
Starting point is 02:04:53 No. Because there is absolute consensus on that, and that is settled. Settled science. Don't you dare be a climate denier. No science has ever settled, Pat. That is what is actually supposed to be. Right.
Starting point is 02:05:07 That's the process. It should always be challenged. should always be looking at it. So it's very healthy that we are right now. We're looking at these things and trying to figure out, all right, what is the deal here? Totally fine with that. Because we just have no idea.
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Starting point is 02:08:36 like on Amazon.C. Pat and Stu for Glenn today, AAA 727B, ECK. We got Stu all fired up as we headed into the 4th of July that's the important thing the important thing to know
Starting point is 02:09:06 well I mean I could get you fired up we could bring up an alligator alcatraz we could bring that up because you not my favorite thing I don't love it now you don't love what about it because I know you are very hard on the border yes you've been a strong
Starting point is 02:09:22 protector of our border as long as known you exactly you do want illegal immigrants to be detained and deported Yes. If that is what's necessary. What I don't like is the alligator part of it. Okay.
Starting point is 02:09:37 I think that's just a thing, though. I mean, I take that as just like a catchy name. Even if it's not, it's just a bad optic or a bad sonic. It just sounds bad because, you know, it sounds like something they would do in El Salvador. Okay? If you escape here, you're going to be eaten by an alligator. First time that happens, I mean, alligator alcatraz goes away. And immigration enforcement becomes much more difficult.
Starting point is 02:10:05 Now, I don't think anybody's ever going to be eaten by an alligator. But to me, it's just, it's kind of a, I don't know, it doesn't seem American to me. That's interesting because I took it as such a, basically a side show to the policy. Right. And I know you agree. Yeah, the policy, I agree with 100%. Right. And so I, because they asked Trump about it.
Starting point is 02:10:27 They're like, what about the alligators? You're like, I guess if they escape, they'll get eaten my alligator. That's the plan. Now, it's funny because, like, no. We don't really want that. It's a real, right. And I don't, I don't think Trump wants to deal. Even if he doesn't.
Starting point is 02:10:41 He doesn't care about human life. He's the only one he even talks about all the lives being lost in these wars. He's the only one that ever brings it up as far as world leaders are concerned. Yeah. So, yeah, I know he cares about the life involved. Yeah. And it's like, I don't. It's interesting like where I think the typical politician, right, would say,
Starting point is 02:10:59 are no it's not really good we're not talking about people getting eaten by allocators we're talking about a detention facility that's away from the population that is convenient to an airport it just would have been a much better spin on it and Trump intentionally goes the opposite direction exactly he makes it sound theoretically worse to the left like he he I don't know if it's trolling or what like it must be because there's no no part of this policy has anything to do with alligators eating migrants. That is not, I mean, I guess in theory it's hard to escape from, right?
Starting point is 02:11:33 Yeah. Because you're so in the middle of nowhere. But like, no part of this is like, hey, we think a good, look, we're going to enforce the border by putting people in areas where if they leave, they'll be eaten by alligators. That's not the policy. Right. Right. It's just a catchy name for a place that's in the epiglades.
Starting point is 02:11:49 But it plays into the left. I see what you're saying. And all of their nonsense. And it just, to me, it would have been better. to avoid all that. Right. See, I, you know? Yeah, I mean, look, if you are one of the weird ones that don't want all illegal immigrants
Starting point is 02:12:07 eaten by reptiles, okay. Yeah, I'm out there on a limb. If that's you. Out there on a limb. All right, have a great Fourth of July. Great Independence Day. We will be back on Monday and Glenn will return. This is Glenn Beck.

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