The Glenn Beck Program - US Democrat Pledges Allegiance to Guatemala?! | Guests: AG Ken Paxton & Sen. Tim Scott | 8/5/25

Episode Date: August 5, 2025

Glenn discusses Democrat Rep. Delia Ramirez of Illinois pledging her loyalty to Guatemala over her loyalty to America. Should she be removed from Congress for admitting she doesn't have American inter...ests as a priority? Glenn reacts to the horrifying AI video Jim Acosta played of a Parkland shooting victim. Glenn rants against using the likeness of a deceased gun violence victim to push your propaganda. Glenn and Stu call out Acosta for his "grotesque" abuse of a gun violence victim to draw attention to himself. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton joins to discuss the Texas House Democrats who have fled the state to avoid voting on a redistricting map. Glenn and Stu discuss the end of the Pride Month hysteria and express how unnecessary companies' political stances are. Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) joins to discuss his newest book, "One Nation Always Under God," which dives into America's Christian roots. Actor and producer Kirk Cameron joins to discuss the cultural movement that is taking over libraries across the country.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:50 and what the Attorney General is going to do. The Attorney General joins us in about an hour on that story, so you don't want to miss that. Also, Jim Acosta spoke to a ghost yesterday. really kind of a terrifying thing, a new development here in America, and hyphenated Americans. America is not just a country, it is truly a covenant. And it's not sealed by race or bloodline, but just an allegiance to an idea that we are all one people under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. So what happens when somebody who is elected to serve under the very idea declares,
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Starting point is 00:06:56 Now this isn't all. Her husband also is in this country illegally. That's not me saying that. That's the Rolling Stone, which reported that a couple of years ago. So let this sink in here for a minute. This is a sitting member of Congress sworn to uphold the Constitution, says she's a Guatemalan before she's an American. Meanwhile, her household, she does, defies the immigration laws that she just swore to protect and defend. All right, this is not a gaff. This is not a misquote. This is intentional. And it is happening over and over and over again. We have people, Elon Omar, she is a Somali before she's an American. Those are her words.
Starting point is 00:07:50 This is not about heritage or cultural pride. You know, you can't say you don't love the country. of your ancestors. I mean, Toddia's family is so great, you know, because they're, they come from Italy.
Starting point is 00:08:06 They're Italian Americans. But they would never say they're Italian. They're Americans. Where's your family from? Italy. And they're proud of that. And I love that they have mixed that. And it has become very American.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I love that. But when you separate yourself and you are an Italian first, there is no, way anybody in Tanya's family throughout history would have ever said, in fact, her uncle Leo, I've talked about a million times, he was born here in America while they were on vacation. They went back to Italy, but he was the only natural born citizen. He was the only citizen.
Starting point is 00:08:47 When the war came, they were afraid that the entire family was going to be wiped out. So what did he do? He came to America. but instead of just sitting collecting things, he's like 18 years old. He enlisted in the U.S. Army. And because he had a heavy Italian accent, everybody thought, ah, he's a spy. And so he got the worst of the worst. He was on one of the first boats for D-Day.
Starting point is 00:09:14 When that gate came down, he was one of the first to try to make the mad dash to the cliff. Why? Because he's obviously a spy. He was proudly an American. When you serve in Congress, when you sit on the committee for the Homeland Security, you're not just representing voters. You're representing the sovereignty of the United States of America. You are part of the body tasked to defend our borders, its laws. And yes, it's identity.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And I am sick and tired and I won't play the game. And nor should you that our identity is worse than anybody else's. that our identity somehow or another doesn't matter. Our identity as America, we changed the world. Now, you can be proud of that, while also being ashamed of some of the things we did when we beat our chest, when we went awry, when we went away from our Constitution and the Declaration of Independence,
Starting point is 00:10:20 when we get away from that, we're screwed. We screw everything up. Well, we're doing that now. She should be denaturalized, deported, maybe maybe that's what some members of congress are calling for she certainly should be kicked off the homeland security committee she should probably be kicked out of congress you cannot have your loyalty to another country over your loyalty to the united states of america i mean when will we start taking allegiance seriously again when you know the founders were really clear
Starting point is 00:11:05 Let's look at this historically. George Washington in his farewell address warned about foreign entanglements. And we always think that that is, oh, well, we shouldn't get involved in foreign wars. Yes, it is. It is. Do you know why you have to be a
Starting point is 00:11:22 a naturally born citizen of the United States to serve as president? You can't be some Arnold Schwarzenegger. You know, everybody was like, I'd let Arnold Schwarzenegger be president. Elon must be, brother. I wouldn't. Because they weren't born here.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Now, that is in our Constitution. And why? Because the founders feared that you would have an alliance that would be above the United States of America. You would say, in Elon Musk's case, you know what? I really am more loyal to South America or South Africa than I am the United States. Or Arnold Schwarze, I'm more, are more along. with Austria than the United States. Neither of those guys will say that.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Neither have those guys believe that. But we have members of Congress who say, I am more aligned and it is more the heart, the country that I have the heart for is Somalia or Guatemala over the United States. Why are you serving? That's what foreign entangments, it's not just military alliances.
Starting point is 00:12:33 He wrote of the danger of foreign influence and corruption. noting that allegiance divided is allegiance denied. Now that's George Washington. We all know Theodore Roosevelt. Theodore Roosevelt didn't believe in hyphenated Americans. There's only Americans. There is no room, quoting him. There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Now, that is obviously not a swipe at immigrants. It was a call to unify under one flag, one set of laws, one national destiny. That's why we're the melting pot. That's why we came together. That's why we could do incredible things. Because people came and brought the best of their culture with them, but they melted and wanted to be an American. And when dual loyalties creep into the halls of power, that's when a republic crumbles. That's when you're over. And it's not from without, it's from within. And as I said, Congresswoman Ramirez, her comments didn't happen in a vacuum. They come at a time when Donald Trump has made immigration central to the campaign,
Starting point is 00:13:48 ending birthright citizenship, ramping up ICE arrest, deporting those who break our laws, apparently except for her husband. And what's the reaction? Outrage. Outrage from the same people who want our borders open, sanctuary cities, policies that blur, if not erase the line between citizen and non-citizen, they want that gone. This isn't political. It's not a political line anymore. This is a spiritual one. This is a moral one. This is a constitutional line. And now with her own words and her own associations, she's drawn that line in the sand. On one side is America. On the other side is Guatemala. And she, by her own words, made her choice. Guatemala. Now the question is, does Congress even care? Will Congress and the American people choose America over Guatemala or
Starting point is 00:14:57 Somalia or any other place? Will we say it matters? So here's what happened. This is what I believe should absolutely happen immediately. She needs to immediately be removed from Homeland Security or immigration-related committees. If you don't believe in national sovereignty, you should not be managing our national sovereignty. There should be a full investigation into her husband's immigration status. No one in this country, not even the spouse of the Congresswoman, should be above the law. If Melania Trump had been been, it'd come here illegally, I would say exactly the same thing. No one is above the law. Citizenship loyalty review. Boy, this really sounds scary. You want a citizenship loyalty review?
Starting point is 00:15:54 Yeah. Yeah, we've had one in the past, and I think we should reintroduce it. Because that is the oath of office, the oath of allegiance. And that has to be, a binding standard for those who are serving. Are you allegiance? Do you pledge allegiance to our flag, our country, our Constitution? And if you can't say with real full conviction, oh, yeah, absolutely, of course, that your allegiance is with the United States of America? Well, then you don't belong in government.
Starting point is 00:16:32 If you can't say, no, my loyalty is absolutely behind the Constitution of the United States of America, then you should not be in government. And here's the biggest thing that has to happen. This one happens with us. We have to stop going, oh well, that's just politics, because this is not politics. This is not politics. This goes right directly to the soul of our nation. A line now has been crossed. And it was crossed with Elon Omar and we said nothing. And now it's been crossed with Congresswoman Ramirez. And she crossed two lines. Her husband, according to Rolling Stone, is an illegal. So are we going to hold the line or not? Because if we don't know where our allegiance is, then we no longer know who we are. We no longer believe in anything anymore.
Starting point is 00:17:38 because America doesn't matter. You can serve as a defender of the Constitution and our sovereignty and not believe in the Constitution or our sovereignty. You know what that means? That means retardation has gone airborne. That's what that means. That we have become so susceptible to retardation that we can't see our own suicide. but that's what that story is really all about.
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Starting point is 00:20:01 10 seconds. Station ID. So, Stu, how do you read? this Ramirez story. It seems pretty obvious, right? When you really should have, you should have loyalty to the United States first when it comes to being certainly a lawmaker. And you'd think, I'm not surprised that this stuff happens, but I'm surprised that it's
Starting point is 00:20:33 being admitted, right? I don't know if she thought, well, I'm on foreign territory and I'm speaking in a different language, no one's going to notice. But like, you're not supposed to admit that you might just. care about another nation more than you do the one you're working for, right? It's like, you know, if you're working at McDonald's, you're not supposed to say, well, I mean, I'm a Burger King guy first. You know, you know, that's, that's, it's insane.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I just love the wopper. You know, you're, you're, you know, you're a priest, not not, not just a parishioner. You're a priest in the Catholic church. You're like, really, my heart is with the Methodist church. what? Right. You know, maybe you can go sit in a pew, but you're not the one to do the math. Yeah, and like you can care.
Starting point is 00:21:23 You can have a, certainly you can even have an order of preference when it comes to foreign nations. You can say, you know what? My heritage comes from this country. And I really do care about what happens there. That's fine. But to put it above America is really, and I'm sure she'll say, oh, no, I didn't mean I was putting it above. I'm sure there's always an excuse.
Starting point is 00:21:45 This is the one lesson I've learned in all the years doing the show with you, Glenn, is no matter what happens, they always have an excuse. There's always some justification as to why they're not doing the thing they're doing. But, like, quite clearly this has been said. I mean, I would argue Elon Amar is a more egregious example even than this person I've literally never heard of until today, which is she's on the Homeland Security Committee
Starting point is 00:22:14 I'm not saying she's a nobody it's just you know she just isn't hasn't been one of those people who's who's necessarily tried to draw attention to herself on MS. You know she's not Jasmine Crockett right like where she's on TV all the time talking about this oftentimes that's where a lot of the damage
Starting point is 00:22:30 comes from Jasmine Crockett is a giant zilch she'll never amount to anything no one listens to her no one even you know she is a she is more of a she's a clown. She's a social media personality rather than an actual congresswoman. A lot of these people go in there. They don't look for the
Starting point is 00:22:47 attention. They don't want everyone looking at them and what they're doing all the time. And those are the people that are honestly crafting a lot of the legislation and the stuff that winds up bothering us the most and we don't pay attention to them. So I'm glad there's some attention being drawn here. Well, we'll see
Starting point is 00:23:04 whether anything's going to happen. I mean honestly we as people need to stop saying I'm hyphenated American that's the first thing it happens we gotta stop saying that I've never said I'm German American
Starting point is 00:23:24 you I mean out of your shame you've never said you're French American I mean you know what I'm saying Stu briggear look you know I'm neither Germany nor France have the best histories.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I know, I know. I'd argue. Well, neither do Italians, but Italians are proud of it. That's just because they're like, yeah, spaghetti. And you're like, yeah, you're right. You know, you guys made some mistakes in that one war,
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Starting point is 00:26:05 But if we don't pay attention to it right now, I don't think we recognize what it means to be human in a generation from now, if that long. A journalist, I shouldn't say journal. Publicity hound, Jim Acosta, just did an interview. I can't even say that. Just did, I don't even know what you would call it.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Did a publicity stunt? Not with a witness, not a grieving parent. He sat down with an AI ghost. It's a AI recreation of a 17-year-old kid named Joaquin Oliver. He was murdered in the Parkland Massacre. And then he called it journalism. He called it a conversation. But it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:26:51 It was neither. It wasn't even human. Let me play this grotesque panamine for you. Listen. Joaquin, I would like to know what your service. solution would be for gun violence. Great question. I believe in a mix of stronger gun control laws, mental health support, and community engagement. We need to create safe spaces for conversations and connections, making sure everyone feels seen and heard.
Starting point is 00:27:19 It's about building a culture of kindness and understanding. What do you think about that? I think that's a great idea, Joaquin. That is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. I'd seen all the headlines I hadn't actually seen the... Now, it is so bad. It's funny at this point. It is. It's just horrible.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I want to put this in a perspective. This is a digital ventriloquist act. He's a puppet. It's the image of a dead kid, long buried, animated, like a puppet for the politics of those who are still living. Now let me ask you something that, you know, we haven't dared to ask out loud yet. And that is, what does it mean? What does it truly mean to be alive if in death you're more useful? What are the Republicans saying, or sorry, the Democrats saying right now to some of the people in Congress,
Starting point is 00:28:26 they're saying, you need to take a bullet. Why? Because you're more useful if you're dead. If somebody assassinate you. So what does it mean to be alive if in death you're more useful? What does it mean when your image, your voice, your soul as captured by a memory or photograph, can be summoned back again, not by God, but by algorithms and agenda? I hate to go all religious on you, but I have to tell you, if this isn't the making of a graven image, I don't know what is. thou shall not make a graven image.
Starting point is 00:29:09 You don't make for yourself an idol or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on earth beneath. You know, the Native Americans used to, they would never let you take your picture, some of them, some tribes would never let you take their picture because they thought it would steal your soul. This doesn't have a soul. This is taking your image, bringing you back to life, without. a soul. When man starts creating a likeness to wield power or emotion, we stop serving God and we start serving ourselves.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And I'm going to be generous here and say, I don't blame the parents. I don't question their grief in any way, shape, or form. But this is no longer theirs. This is not their son. This is a political puppet. The minute Joaquin's AI avatar spoke political opinions into a camera, it stopped being about grief and became propaganda.
Starting point is 00:30:29 And this, my friend, is only the beginning. What happens when governments use AI resurrected faces for propaganda? What happens when terrorists use deep fake hostages? hostages who are already dead, pleading for help. You don't think that could happen with Hamas? You don't think that Hamas couldn't have made an image. In fact, the video that we saw last week could have very well been AI, and the kid could be dead.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Now it's not, but that's what's coming. What happens when we begin to trust synthetic testimony over human, actual human experience. This isn't just immoral. This is very, very dangerous. This is soul-erasing. This is post-human. You are entering a world now that is, it's post-human.
Starting point is 00:31:31 This is the dystopian world, and we're just beginning to step into it. We're entering an age where the dead can be programmed to speak the words of the living. where grief is nothing more than a marketing tool, where death is not your end, but just a data set now to be parsed and projected and used politically. And here's the real sick part of this.
Starting point is 00:31:59 The more meaningful your death, the more valuable your ghost. If that doesn't shake you to your core, nothing's going to. If this doesn't wake you up to the dangers of AI, nothing will. If this doesn't wake you up to go, oh dear God, I've got to get back to the basics, I have to start asking the questions,
Starting point is 00:32:27 what does it mean to be human? Nothing will. We have to draw really strong ethical hard lines in the sand. On the use of AI, the use of likeness of the dead, it should be codified in the law internationally. And I'm not saying, you know, you're not bringing characters back.
Starting point is 00:32:54 You know, you're not bringing things back to, you know, show them in movies or for entertainment or whatever. But when you're bringing dead children back, I don't know. I think there's a problem here. There's a problem. And we also have to teach our kids discernment here, critical thinking, you know, and more than critical thinking moral reasoning has got to be taught. We need a generation that knows the difference between the real and artificial, between the sacred and the synthetic, because that's going to be blurred. All of it is blurred. How long before a Jim Acosta clown isn't the one doing it? But somebody's serious.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Transparency from media, from tech, not after the fact, but before the images even appear on the screen. Now, to his credit, he did say this was AI, of course, but it's a ghost. We have to reawaken the soul, the concept of the soul. This is why I've said for years that Ray Kurzweil is one of the scariest guys I've ever met. Because he doesn't believe in the soul. He believes that that, what you just saw, is just as real as the real kid. The soul can't be copied. It can't be coded.
Starting point is 00:34:35 It can't be commodified. Because we lose our soul in our culture. If we lose it in our culture, in our politics, in our mourning, in our journalism, then you got nothing left. And doesn't Joaquin Oliver deserve dignity in life? Everybody knows he deserved peace in death, right? What he didn't deserve is to be animated by code. to deliver a political message like a branded mascot.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I'm sorry, but if this is the parents doing, the parents, shame on you. Shame on you. I understand your grief as much as a parent can that hasn't lost a child. I understand your grief. But this is sick. You know where this road leads?
Starting point is 00:35:34 It leads to a future where grief can be licensed, where every dead child becomes a kid. campaign and where being alive no longer requires a pulse. Just a well-trained AI model. You never died. That's not compassion. That is not progress. That is hell wearing the mask of empathy.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Shame on you, Jim Acosta. Because out of all the people that could have done this, you're only doing it for PR. You're only doing it because you need the attention. It's sick. and Americans have to stand up and say, no more. You have to at least in your personal life, make a decision what is life and what is death worth? Back in a minute.
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Starting point is 00:40:13 It's hard to measure that, honestly. Acosta is, you know, certainly brainless. I don't know if he's lifeless completely, but it seems that way, certainly in this clip. I can't, like, Jim Acosta should go back and create an AI version of his younger self and warn himself about what his career is going to become. Like that, he should go.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I don't think he'll care. I don't think he would care. You don't think his younger self would care? No, no. Well, now he would. Now he would. Because now it's like, Jim, you're going to do a big deal in Washington. You're going to make the tickets for free.
Starting point is 00:40:50 You're going to have homeless. You're going to invite homeless people to the show in the theater. And no one's going to show up. And no one. I mean, it's just an absolute failure. I mean, this is a guy who, you know, there's a certain class of, let me just put in air quotes, journalist that sort of only survives because of like the network structure. Right. Like there's, you know, they get a job. They kind of come up under a big, you know, company. They never really make a lot of waves. They never really do anything impressive. But, you know, they need people who be on the air and report on stories. And they kind of just stick around. And Acosta thinks of himself as like above that, like a guy with a dynamic personality who's really making a difference that people really want to hear from. And those people do exist. He's just not one of them. So.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I think him trying to, like this is an incredibly pathetic stunt where he's trying and demanding people talk about him and get his attention. And any, I mean, any normal human being would realize this is just a terrible idea. Forget that it's distasteful.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Forget that it's, you know, this grotesque thing that you're trying to do to make a political point. Everyone on earth, I think, would realize, it's just a terrible idea and is going to go horribly.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And he is not apparently smart enough to do that. And it's not even, it's not even that. It's not that, I mean, if you could take the essence of who he was, it still would not be him. But if you had,
Starting point is 00:42:29 you know, because we're building a Glenn AI for me. And it's, it's based solely on the words that I have spoken or written, on stage, on radio, on television for the last 30 years. And that's all it can pull from. So it at least is reflective of what I believe. But that's not what they did.
Starting point is 00:42:54 They didn't download. I mean, how much did they have that they could download? Not enough to make that. This is a puppeteer. He is a virtual meat sock. Yeah, I mean, it is so unbelievably distaste. The Parkland was a it was middle was it was middle school it's been so long now I I thought that was high was it high school was young high school you're I just don't believe
Starting point is 00:43:17 you're going to have highly formed opinions on you know gun violence policy right it's a parents and I think you're right to give all sorts of grace to the parents and I know probably there's some people who disagree with us on this but I mean if you think about losing your kid like you're probably going to do all sorts of crazy stuff for the rest of your life I don't know. I mean, I don't even, I can't even imagine, uh, going through something like that and how I would react to it probably really badly. So I hope I never do. Yeah. God forbid. And if you do, there's all sorts of built in excuses, frankly, that I, you know, I'll provide you. Uh, and lots of grace. I, you know, I don't know. You, I mean, this, to me, this is, this is the type of thing you
Starting point is 00:43:59 should probably catch as a bad idea. Um, but it's really hard to put yourself in that situation. So, you know, it's much, much worse to talk about Jim Acosta, who's taking their pain, their suffering, and they're honestly bad decision making, and using it for his own, like, PR tour. He is so pathetic. I don't know that there's a more pathetic figure in the media today, and I'm including Keith Oberman in that discussion. I was just thinking that.
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Starting point is 00:47:53 of one of the most anti-democratic practices in modern politics, except it started in 1812 and every both sides do it now. It is the feature of the system. You want to change that, we can talk about that. But what's happening in Texas
Starting point is 00:48:09 is the Democrats believe that, you know, they can do it wherever they are. But the Republicans better. not try it. Well, that's not the way it works, unfortunately, gang, for you. I know you like special privileges, but both parties are equal, I guess. Ken Paxton is here to tell us what is happening
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Starting point is 00:49:55 By the way, how are the polls going for you? How is the race you're running against Cornyn? Well, it's going well. I mean, the numbers every poll I've seen, even polls I haven't done, have me way up. My own polls have me up 25 points. And I just continue to do the same job I've done over the last 11 years. and he's obviously changed his focus from being what he was to being a all-in Trump guy for the last few months. It's a miracle.
Starting point is 00:50:25 He's a converted guy. I know. I know. Okay. So, Ken, let's talk a little bit about gerrymandering and what is happening here in the state of Texas. The Democrat, go ahead. No, no. You go ahead and ask the question.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I should wait at least for the question. The Democrats don't like the fact that. the Republicans are going to do some gerrymandering here, which is done everywhere else. So they have left the state. This is the third time they've done it. So what is their plan? What is,
Starting point is 00:50:56 what should happen? And what are you as the Attorney General and the governor going to do about it? First of all, it's pretty ironic that they're going to Illinois, New York, and Massachusetts, three of the most liberal states and some of the most gerrymandered states in the country. I think Illinois might be the most gerrymendered.
Starting point is 00:51:14 If you look at Illinois, Illinois and how it's drawn, I think 82% of the members of Congress are Democrats, whereas 48% of the population votes Republicans, so it doesn't match up even closely. So they leave Texas of the Democrats, the 51, some of them go to Chicago to a state that is completely germane. So it's really hypocritical in my view. What they're doing is you've already mentioned in the prelude you're talking to me. So the goal here is, I honestly would have locked them up when they were, in the house, text house speaker could have shut the doors and kept everybody in. We've done that. We did that back in 2003. And once the doors are locked, you can't get out. And you spend the night
Starting point is 00:51:55 there and you vote. And they could have done that. They did not do that. So they let the, what is they said, the cat out of the bag, the cat's gone. So now you either arrest them, which you're not going to get help from jurisdictions like Illinois, Boston, and Boston. You're not going to get help Massachusetts or New York. So arresting him is not likely scenario until they come back, what has happened in the past is our governors have waited them out because ultimately they, many of them have to come back, they have jobs, they have families, they're not going to live in Illinois, it's cold up there, New York's cold, Boston's cold, so they come back and we vote. And every time we've ultimately been successful, another option we're looking at, as a matter of fact,
Starting point is 00:52:33 when I get out of this fall, meeting with a bunch of my lawyers to talk about this, this quo warrento, which is a possibility that we looked into a couple of years ago. We suggested it might be a way to take existing members out of their positions if they fail to show up to perform their duties. Now you take them out of the positions, but then there has to be a special election, so you can't go right to vote, right? Yeah, no, because that changes the quorum. I think it'll change the quorum. So you have less numbers, your quorum numbers change.
Starting point is 00:53:08 So Abbott could also appoint, I think could appoint, and, at least until there's a special election. Some of these might be appointed positions as well for a period of time. So there's possibly, it's definitely not a fast process, although we're trying to figure out a way to fast track it so that we can get an answer sooner rather than later. Otherwise, it's just a waiting game. Either way, in the end, we know how this is going to turn out
Starting point is 00:53:34 because Governor Abbott is not going to back down, and he'll just keep calling them back until they show up. This is a nuclear weapon that they lost. and all you're going to hear from the media is if you launch back, they're going to just say that you're using a nuclear weapon, you're destroying the Republic, et cetera, et cetera. But they're the ones that launched the nuclear strike. You don't do that. And this is the third time they've tried this, and it doesn't work. Well, what's interesting, Glenn, is, I mean, I've been, I was in Texas House starting in 2003, served 10 years in the House, two years in the Senate, I've been AG for 11.
Starting point is 00:54:12 And the only thing they've ever left on, it's not abortion. It's not, you know, welfare. It's, you know what it? It's always this. This is what they care about. They care about controlling Congress, about controlling things through manipulation. And these are the rules of the game. The Supreme Court laid down the rules.
Starting point is 00:54:31 You can, as you said, you can jurymender as long as it's political. The legislature has every right to draw the lines however they want to. And they could be really bad lines for the other party, but they're allowed to do it. under Texas, or under a U.S. Supreme Court precedent. And it is a state's decision. This is not a federal decision. This is a state's decision. Every state can do whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:54:54 What do you think about New York, which is already gerrymandered? What do you think about New York saying, well, if Texas is going to do that, then we're just going to gerrymander even more? Well, look, they're entitled to do whatever their state constitution, and their laws allow them to do. There's always a risk. You go too far. and you stretch those seats too far.
Starting point is 00:55:15 There are Republicans in New York, I know, because my family's from there. There are Republicans, and if you draw those seats too tightly, you can end up losing some of those down the road. I will, I'll tell you that, you know, the problem with gerrymandering, in my opinion, and the founders, you know, both Jefferson,
Starting point is 00:55:34 and I think it was Adams, and Jefferson wrote about this. And this is about 1820, so after gerrymandering had started, and they talked about how this was a flaw in the Constitution that they wish they would have put in what are called stakes, and it comes right from the Old Testament, where, you know, you start with, you know, 500 people, and then that's a square. And then when that becomes, you know, a thousand people, you cut it in half, and it becomes another square. And so it just, you don't, you can't gerrymander.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Everything just keeps growing and you just keep cutting it in squares. Because the problem is when you gerrymander, all of a sudden your neighbors don't matter. All of a sudden, you might be represented by somebody who's way away from your community instead of somebody who's living right in your community. And the other thing is, you no longer care about the middle. You're only playing to the extremes because you've cut everyone else out that would help balance you at all. It's really dangerous. Do you agree with that or not? No, I absolutely agree with you.
Starting point is 00:56:45 It's just that's not the system the founders put in place. And as a result, you know, the Democrats are going to do it. You can sit back and say, well, philosophically, I'm against this. And the Democrats are just going to control the House and the Senate forever because we're against this. You can't let that happen. So I agree with you. It's not ideal that you play by the rules, just like in football, you might not like all the rules, but you play by the rules you got.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Correct. So you're going to decide, I mean, on a warrant or warrants have been issued, right? But it's one where they come into the state, and it's not they don't take, you don't take them to jail. You take them to the house, correct? Yes, it's not a prison sentence. I mean, unless you consider being on the Texas House floor,
Starting point is 00:57:35 which I often did, a prison sentence. But if you're, if the doors are shot and you're stuck with all those people, sometimes you wish you aren't. Right. Yeah, it's just a, once they step into the state, they'll be escorted back to the house. Presumably, they'll do what I suggested,
Starting point is 00:57:53 and either if they're not going to step, they already know they're going to, if they come back, they're going to stay. They've made their decision. So, who knows when that'll be? But I think in the end, it won't matter. It will happen the way the Republicans have planned it. Ken, thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:58:12 you're going to be looking into who paid for these flights. It's my understanding that some of them were flying private jets. And I'd like to know who paid for those. That just has to be declared before the next election or at the end of the year? So during special session, they have to report on their campaign expenditures and their campaign contributions. So that will all be seen by the public within, I think, a month after session, something like that. So the special session last 30 days, I forget exactly what day he called it.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Sometime in all, I would say sometime in September, we should know that information. Wow. Thank you so much, Ken. I appreciate it. Keep up the good work. Absolutely. Have a great day. Good bless.
Starting point is 00:58:56 You bet. Bye-bye. So, Stu, I mean, it's nuclear war. It's nuclear war. It's a very pathetic version of a nuclear war where you run away to JP, Pritzker. I mean, it's not the day after exactly. It's sissy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:17 It's sissy. Yeah. It's nuclear war. It's Democrat nuclear war. It really is pathetic, right? It's this, you know, you're scampering away to hide behind a very large governor in another state. And we should also highlight why it's Illinois. There's a reason for this, right?
Starting point is 00:59:36 Like, you know, you could go, there's an Indian Native American reservation with the world's largest casino, Glenn, right over the border of Texas. They could go there and stay there and they'd be across state lines. They're in Illinois because, you know, right, exactly. They're looking because they want J.B. Pritzker to be their sugar daddy. And they also realize that J.B. Pritzker's likely going to run for president in 2028. these people want to be close to those types of that type of money.
Starting point is 01:00:13 He's a billionaire and that type of influence. And so they're going there to sort of scout whatever their next gig is or wherever the next donation is coming from. It's got nothing to do with, you know, caring about any of this. Like, of course, they care about the seats. You know, Cannon's right. Like, that's seemingly their most central interest is power. But this is all, this is, this works on multiple fronts.
Starting point is 01:00:37 for their continued power, and this is why they're doing it, even though they know they're going to fail. I mean, there's no way this ends with Texas not having a quorum for the rest of the term. Like, that's not how this ends. No, no. You know, and it's what's sad is they're supposed to be talking about property tax relief, that if you really want to help your constituents, you pass that. You change the property tax rules. the property tax in Texas.
Starting point is 01:01:07 It's just like Florida, completely out of control. Completely out of control. Yeah, I certainly agree with that. But there's also the flood, you know, these flood victims, you know. And it's funny because the way the media is spinning this is that Republicans are stopping it. It's like, no, wait a minute. The Democrats are in another state.
Starting point is 01:01:31 What do you mean Republicans are stopping the funding? They come back and then they come back. can start talking about the funding for, yes, they're going to do the maps. That's going to be part of it. And that's going to happen either way. But this way would also get the money to, you know, the people that needed in these flood zones. That is, and it's fascinating that the Republicans get the blame for that. Just like Israel's getting the blame for the starving hostages now. You know, where, wait a minute, Hamas is starving the hostages, but it's Israel's fault that they're starving. Like, it's hard to even follow the logic, but that's where we are with the meeting.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I know. I know. And the other thing is, is they were getting rid of the star tests, which your kids have taken star testing. Stu? Maybe. I don't know. I don't pay attention to it much. They just, you know, they come and go. They're please. The star testing is the state of Texas, the standardized test. And everybody hates it. Teachers hate it. Kids hate it. Because it's just. you're teaching half of the year just to that test. And it's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:02:39 You've got to stop teaching to tests. That's what makes schools so depressing is you're just memorizing for test. You're just memorizing. And what is that teaching you? That's not teaching you how to think. That's teaching you what to think and how to answer questions on a test that you've memorized. It's ridiculous. I don't know why we do it.
Starting point is 01:03:02 And that's another thing that is on. the on the list, but, you know, the Democrats had to get out of town so they could, gosh, darn it, so they could stand for their constituents. Yeah, you know, I mean, I know this isn't the topic, but I don't hate them as much as everybody else does. Standardized testing, you know, I get why it has a bad rep, and I understand why that is. Okay, hang on. I just thought for a second.
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Starting point is 01:05:23 may I show the picture of the Prime Minister of Canada in Vancouver Prime Minister Mark Carney known as a very serious man hugging a guy at the gay pride parade Now which one is Carney
Starting point is 01:05:43 Carney is the one in the pink Well, has the pink thing on his chest. Oh, oh. I should be right. Yeah, because there's a pink thong in the picture, too. I thought maybe you were saying that that was him. He's the, so you're saying he's the one in the suit, not the one. Yeah, that's probably a better way to say it.
Starting point is 01:06:02 He's the one in the suit. Yeah. Right. That is, that's disgusting. And he just wanted to go because, you know, he just wanted to show his support for, you know, gay pride. And you can do that without hanging out with guys in a pink thong and nothing else out on the streets. I mean, I think you could be pro-LGBQ and not do that. You know, I don't think that's...
Starting point is 01:06:35 You don't think you have to have physical contact with a naked man to support LGBT? No, I don't. I really don't. I really don't. It might be a little demeaning. I mean, even the Canadians are mocking him for this. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:52 I mean, look at how pathetic he looks. Yeah. And he's like keeping his distance. He's like, okay, I'm going to give you a shoulder hug, you know, or my shoulder touches your shoulder. Okay. I'm not looking directly at you. It's pathetic.
Starting point is 01:07:05 There's a bit of disconnect from reality when it comes to politicians and these, especially these parades where like, I think in their mind it's like, oh, it's a parade to support rights. and like they like I can't believe that that you know conservatives would highlight the you know the every sure there's a bunch of people running around with sex toys or whatever but like that I can't believe they would highlight them and then they go down there and they realize it's actually a big part of the festival you know it's a yeah the festivities are basically yeah it's it's not like a
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Starting point is 01:09:31 Some breaking news. Scientists have now come out with a new report that says the Titan submergeable, the little submarine they were taking down to the Titanic that it imploded. They say that it had design flaws in it. What? So, yeah, and I know. What?
Starting point is 01:09:52 Thank you, Werner von Braun, for bringing us up to speed. I didn't realize that was the problem. No kidding. Oh, kidding. I would say multiple, multiple design problems. weren't they controlling it by like a PlayStation controller? Right.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I mean, that's probably one of the things, you know, you get into it. It's like, wait, this is a PlayStation controller? I don't think I'm going down under the water. I don't think I'm going to. We really are trusting people. Maybe to our fault at times. I said earlier today, retardation has gone airborne. We are just retarded.
Starting point is 01:10:31 We have become, it's becoming a national epidemic. Yes, you did say that, yes. So the... I noticed you about it. Yes, Glenn, you did say that. Speaking of going back to the story we were talking about a second ago with the Canadian Prime Minister, I don't know, getting felt up or whatever was happening in that photo at the gay pride parade with a guy in a thong. I was wondering if...
Starting point is 01:11:01 Do you think Canada has had the same sort of... of reawokening, if you will, that we've had. I can tell right where you're going, nope, nope. When the prime minister is hugging a guy in a butt thong, no, I don't think they've had the awakening, at least, at least to that level, you know, this might help with the reawakening because people in Canada are like, oh, dear God, what a dark prime minister just do? I mean, this would help. But I don't think, I mean, you saw here in America,
Starting point is 01:11:42 pride parades were way down. Pride flags, way down. The Pride days. Pride parades, pride festivals. They could not get sponsors this year because it's over. It's over. And I don't know. I shouldn't say it's over.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Yeah. It's not over. It's, it's the, the frenzy of it is over. Yeah. I think there's a big, we talked about this at the time, too. And at the time, it felt more controversial than maybe it does right now. But like there are, in my mind, sort of like three different categories of companies. You've got like real left-wing companies.
Starting point is 01:12:15 And you've got a few real right-wing companies. And then you have a bunch of companies that are in the middle. They're going to go wherever they think the tide or the current is going. And if in the moment they think the best thing they should do is tweet about Pride Day, they're going to do that. And if the next day it's, you know, red, white and blue and, you know, and pick up trucks and, you know, people having beer on the tailgate, then that's what they're going to do. Like, that is, I think, the majority of companies. I think the majority of companies are in that category. They are looking to sell their product.
Starting point is 01:12:54 They don't want to be cracked down, you know, by the government. They don't want to be dragged through some crisis in the media. and they just want to do their own thing. And I think, you know, now it's easy to kind of say, well, that kind of seems like where it is. I don't think we've seen a massive awakening. Like, I don't know that American Eagle is some right-wing company, right? Like, they're just putting their finger up in the air and saying, oh, okay, this is the way the wind is blowing. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:20 There are people who didn't really care in the first place. Yeah, they're just, they also didn't care about the woke stuff. Yeah. Yeah, they're just shallow. And honestly, like, I know that sounds bad, but, like, I can deal with that from companies. What I want them to do is provide a service. I don't need to even know what their opinion is about these things. I don't care about it at all.
Starting point is 01:13:40 I'm not going to make my decision based on what American Eagle or Bud Light or Patagonia tell me about a particular topic. I don't know who the people are that care about that. I know why, and you've covered it in a couple of your books, why that was being done. because it was to it was much more than you know just DEI it was ESG and and you know CRT and all these other different things that were piled on top of each other and it was kind of an end round around our normal systems of government right like it really was a way to influence the entire culture by going around the normal ways we do things so I understand why they were trying that but I don't care about it and I don't need that from my companies you know President
Starting point is 01:14:25 Trump highlighted the, you know, the Sydney Sweeney thing the other day. I think it was yesterday and was saying, hey, you know, he said, Sydney Sweeney, a registered Republican, has the hottest ad out there. Is she? I think it's true. Oh, that's fantastic. It's bizarre. Like, honestly, when I saw it, I was like, probably not true. There's probably somebody else with the same name. But it seems like multiple sources have now reported on this and said, yes, she is a registered Republican, which is. is interesting in a couple of ways. Number one, you wouldn't, she does not seem like the type that would be out there like
Starting point is 01:15:03 making political statements. She really doesn't talk about politics at all. She's not, doesn't seem like a political person at all. The stuff that she, I mean, she's, she was in the handmaid's tail, right? Like she, it's not like she's been like, you know, only been seen in religious pictures. Euphoria. Not exactly a conservative vehicle, I would say. I was going to say, has she been in any religious pictures?
Starting point is 01:15:25 Well, yes, the Handmaid's Tale. The Handmaid's Tale. Lots of religion. The Handmaid's Tale. She's in the pictures. In the moving pictures. You know, I know, I know. You have that sort of like cultural, there's those signals that you get from certain people. Gosh, he seems to be in all these movies about good fatherhood and, you know, sports.
Starting point is 01:15:50 You have those types of people and you can kind of say, there's a good chance that they're conservative. You would not get that from Sidney's Sweeney's past. That's not what you'd get. So that is, that's interesting. And so it's interesting that she would take the time. Again, you're registering. You make that choice. You're saying you can easily just be an independent and, you know, no one's going to know.
Starting point is 01:16:08 And if you're an actress, like, you'd think you'd, you consider that and you're making a decision. I know this might be found out. I'm going to do it anyway. That's, that's, I think, interesting. I'll also add, is there any reason, Glenn, why that should be public information? why on earth should we be able to search a database for an individual's party registration? Why do we need to know that? Other than the fact that these dumb politicians want to text us constantly, other than that,
Starting point is 01:16:36 what's the purpose of that? What good does it do for America that I can pull up Bob Thompson in Des Moines and find out that he's a, Des Moines, Iowa and find out that he's a Republican or a Democrat? What business of that is mine? I don't understand that. Well, you said the key word, and you've already addressed it. You've said the key word, business. You know, it's all about calling you, getting money and, you know, it's business.
Starting point is 01:17:03 That's what that's about. That's just a terrible. So everybody knows who to get business from. It has nothing to do. It's nobody's business. Right. But nobody's business. That's why you should register as an independent because I, you know, I'll vote for whoever
Starting point is 01:17:19 has the best ideas. Democrats haven't had a good. good idea, oh, for a long time. But, you know, I mean, I would love to have John F. Kennedy be a Republican. I mean, with the policies that he had back then, I would like him to be a Republican. I'd probably be more apt to vote for him than most of the Republicans today. Because the, the Republicans, they're not, I mean, Kennedy is a conservative in comparison to a lot of the Republicans today. It's a bizarre time. It's really bizarre. It comes to that. But I think you're right, I think you're right that the time, this, this, the time of the wokeness is, is over. And I can't say,
Starting point is 01:18:03 it's still going to be there. Yes. But the time of the craziness, I think, is over, at least temporarily. If, if they regain control, can you imagine how the revenge, the revenge that will happen. Oh, yeah. Terrified. And a lot of these companies that now are maybe seeming more sane will go the other way when when pressure is going that way. Trump did highlight, though, in that same, I guess, truth that it was, he highlighted Jaguar as well. Jaguar did a stupid and seriously woke advertisement that is a disaster. CEOs just resigned companies in turmoil.
Starting point is 01:18:43 And it is true. Like, thinking of those two moments had me thinking about how far we've come in a very short period of time. You know, sometimes think about the COVID era, like that, you know, let's say April, March 2020, right? They just had the 15 days to slow the spread. Every restaurant in town is closed. You can't go out to them. You know, that period where it felt like your kids are maybe not in school and you're at home and it's weird, right? Like the whole world feels incredibly strange and you look back at that and say, gosh, I can't believe we actually went through that. And that's a normal thing to go through, I think, when you're thinking back to the COVID era.
Starting point is 01:19:21 We don't do it enough when it comes to like George Floyd to 2023. Right? Like that period, like the world went insane for a couple of years. Like I, someone posted this over the weekend and it went viral and I had totally forgotten about it. But it was a tweet from the NHL, the National Hockey League. Okay? Just a tweet from the NHL's main account. that said
Starting point is 01:19:48 trans men are men, trans women are women and some other ridiculous piece of Ibram-Kendi nonsense thrown into a tweet with no explanation from the National Hockey League who, I mean, until recently,
Starting point is 01:20:12 I don't even think they had a player that wasn't like Russian. They're like the least diverse organization in the world. And like, you know, just a bizarre moment. Like, why on earth would they think that is an appropriate thing for a hockey league to be talking about? And there was just think this was all over the place at that time. Just think how, you know, they've said, your history is, you're on the wrong side of history. I think you're beginning to see which side was the wrong side of history.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Jaguar learned it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because they,
Starting point is 01:20:50 they missed the deadline, right? Like, the time ran out when all that stuff was normal to just be like super weird and woke. And then they were like, well, what if we design our entire company around that image? And a year later, the CEO is fired, right? Like that is. Is that where it really truly jumped the shark? Where is the jump the shark moment?
Starting point is 01:21:09 That's a great question. Ah, that's a great one. Because that's when we all noticed it. When Jaguar did that, we went, oh, okay. It felt all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:21:18 it was like, whoa, what are they doing? Yeah. It felt like, wait, did they miss a memo? Like,
Starting point is 01:21:22 why is this happening? Um, you're right. You know, I'm trying to think of what the jump the shark. That might be the jump the shark moment. Like, because,
Starting point is 01:21:30 you know, you think about that. And if you don't know that reference, it's from happy days. Uh, when Fonzie jumped the shark and everyone was like, that was the end of the series being good was essentially that line, right?
Starting point is 01:21:40 Mm-hmm. And, you know, it was over essentially after, after that moment. I mean, maybe the Jaguar thing is a good representation of that because that would have been last year and it did feel like when that happened, it was, we noticed it, right?
Starting point is 01:21:56 And that's part of the Jump the Shark moment. It's not just that it's a bad show. It was like, that was the moment everyone like, oh, God, this show's actually not even good, is it? Like, that was kind of that moment. And just like everything else, it's not that you didn't know that Happy Days was not going well. you know what I mean? Everybody knew happy days was not going well. It wasn't like great and then jump the shark.
Starting point is 01:22:21 It was, this is really suffering. This is bad. We should put it out of its misery. Oof, this is getting really tough. He's going to take his bike and jump a shark. It's over.
Starting point is 01:22:34 It's over. Just like the just like the woke moment, I think that might be the jump the shark moment because we felt it coming. We all felt it coming. We were like this. this is not going well. This is not going to last much longer. This is, and then that happened, we're all like,
Starting point is 01:22:50 wow. Yeah. This just stinks up the whole room. Yeah. That feels like a good example. I'd love to hear what other people think of as that. Another one I popped into my mind was the, was the Major League Baseball canceling the All-Star team, or the All-Star game in Atlanta because of a statewide voting policy that,
Starting point is 01:23:11 that want to be increasing voter turnout. Now, that to me isn't right, though. It's too early in the process. You know, it wasn't, that's not the right one. You know, you think of all the people posting things on Instagram for Black Lives Matter. But again, that was on the early side. No. It's got to be a little later.
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Starting point is 01:29:49 America, welcome to the Glebeck program. We've got a great hour packed for you today. We're going to spend just a few minutes on the idea of God and the role he has played in the country and is still playing in the country. we have a couple of guests. We have Kirk Cameron coming up in just a second. And next, Tim Scott, who is a Republican out of South Carolina, he just wrote a book called One Nation Always Under God.
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Starting point is 01:32:57 Tell me about One Nation always under God. It is a story. The way I look at it is if we're going to understand our future, we must have a great foundation in our past. And America's foundation was a Judeo-Christian ethos. And through the book, One Nation always Under God, I speak a lot about these amazing Christians who dedicated their lives to being extraordinary, not because of who they are, but because of whose they are. In God's hands, we can do the most remarkable things.
Starting point is 01:33:32 So there's a couple of books out that are, one of them is coming out, yours is out now, One Nation Always Under God, that is explaining this, I think, in the best way, possible is when a country loses its story, it loses. You can't sustain it anymore. And these are the stories where
Starting point is 01:33:54 American Christians stepped up and needed God and moved our nation forward. So let's talk about a couple of the stories. Let's start with William Lloyd Garrison. Who is he? What happened?
Starting point is 01:34:12 You know, one of the things that got me in trouble back in 2021, as I said the truth, which is that America is not a racist country. And one of the reasons why we're not a racist country is because we've wrestled with race for so long, we've won. And William Lloyd Garrison was an abolitionist who fought tooth and nail against racism and slavery and because of his fortitude and his faith in God that he was called as an ordinary person to resist the way that the way that the, world was at the time, he achieved a victory for other people. You know, Proverbs 31.8 reminds us to stand up for those who can't stand for themselves. William Lloyd Garrison and millions of
Starting point is 01:34:57 Americans have taken that stand. And today we celebrate the achievement of those who went before us. And if we're smart, we'll remember that as we look to our future and celebrate where we are today because of the sacrifices of yesterday. Apollo 13 astronaut Jim Lovell. Yeah, what a great story. Jim Lovell was a man of space 200,000 miles, 200,000 miles away from home, so to speak. He started praying over him, and he understood what he needed to do to save the lives of the astronauts that were with him by conserving oxygen, making some things happen that were
Starting point is 01:35:45 nearly impossible, but he was led by his faith and prayer that gave him a peace that allowed him to rely on the expertise he had inside him over years and years of as an astronaut side of this world. Dorothea Dix. Dix is a wonderful story of an amazing Christian who felt called to examine the institutions where those who were suffering from mental health and mental breakdowns were. were housed. She found their fight to be disgusting and challenging. She felt told by God, an ordinary, everyday woman, did something extraordinary. She changed the way that the insane
Starting point is 01:36:31 of silence of her time were housing everyday Americans. And because of her, we have sanity, we have respect and dignity in so many of the places that today, those who are suffering mental health challenges are taken care of. Really an amazing story. Go ahead. Go ahead. Finish up. Just really an amazing story of a woman called by God, everyday person, to do something, frankly, groundbreaking around the globe, all started here in America by one woman with a Christian conviction.
Starting point is 01:37:08 So we are, let me get off the book here for a second, but focus on this, what she did. We are now, we have a mental health problem on the streets of our country. Yes. It is really bad. And I don't know how to solve it. Tim, there's, you know, the president says, you know, we've got to, we've got to get these people back into care. And that is absolutely true. But I also remember what the government was like, what those government institutions were like and what they became. When I was a kid and Reagan stopped them, they were really bad and dangerous. How do we stop this from becoming that again?
Starting point is 01:37:52 Well, that's a great question. And one of the reasons why I wrote about Dorothea Dixon, I looked around and saw the flight of everyday Americans today, 100,000 people have lost their lives because of fentanyl and drug overdoses. During COVID, we saw a 30% increase in parents bringing their teenage kids to the ER because of mental health episodes. You're 100% right. We are living in a time of great mental instability.
Starting point is 01:38:19 The way that we solved this is, frankly, not by having the government take it over. It is, however, by having programs like the one started by John Baker, who focused on Celebrate Recovery and Church. I believe the fastest way to solve the problems that we face today is by depending, not on the government, but depending on each other. And this program called Celebrate Recovery, is in over 40,000 churches around the world. And as a result, we've seen lives restored.
Starting point is 01:38:54 We've seen people healed. We've seen families brought back together. The one thing you and I both celebrate is the fact that the government will depend on the government. Actual solutions are closer to home in your local church, in your local community, in your family. We need the restoration of the family as a bedrock of our society if we're going to solve. many of the issues in the ills that we face. That can't happen because of government fiat. It only happens because of families restored
Starting point is 01:39:32 because they see their rightful place in the family and they find their common sense and return home to their families. What does it mean convicted by the Lord? For me, the conviction, I'll talk about my personal experience. As a kid growing up in poverty, I was lost as a goose and a rainstorm for much of my childhood. I nearly fed out of school because I didn't,
Starting point is 01:39:57 see a way forward. But Glenn, I'll tell you, I felt this growing need for something, and I had some really good Christian friends who taught me by example more than words that what I was looking for was a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I felt this conviction. I want to look at that comparatively speaking to condemnation. So often, people that condemn you are looking out for your best interest, but you do need to have this conviction in your own heart that there is a a better way and that conviction for me led me to examine Christianity and I came to the saving conclusion my life was better off at his hands and so when I talk about that conviction I'm really talking about this understanding that something must change and it must start in me
Starting point is 01:40:45 you know it is to me it is the definition of evil what we're seeing happen in our country where people are telling you you know everything stacked against you you'll never make it you got to vote for this or, you know, your life is wasted. And it is so evil to convince people that they don't have everything in them to make it. Because they do. Absolutely, Gwen. This is one of the most important foundations of our country. We were given our inalienable rights, not by government, not from government, but by God.
Starting point is 01:41:21 And if that's the case, then we should never see ourselves as victims, but we should see ourselves as victors because all things are possible in a country whose foundation is the lords we haven't gotten it right i'm not suggesting that we have but i am suggesting that the closer we get to that more perfect union the more likely we are in consistent harmony with the society that come from the gospel you know we we never have gotten it right and you know anybody who says america is a failure never gotten it right never lived up to its principles. Have you read those principles? I mean, those principles that all men are created equal, you know, and a doubt by their creator, life, liberty, and pursuit of
Starting point is 01:42:08 happiness, those principles are really, really, really, really super high. And I can't think of a grander mission statement than what our declaration lays out. And we don't cut our, any slack as human beings and say, look, we're going to mess it up, but you got to get back up and reapply yourself to the mission again. You should keep preaching that because that's exactly what the book of Proverbs reminds us, that a man falls seven times, but a good man gets up to seventh time, but he falls. It's the same thing that we hear from Jesus in the book of Matthews that, how many times should I be forgiven? Seven times? There's no, 70 times seven. It's exactly the same thing
Starting point is 01:42:58 that we see in the midst of great challenges and frankly even in my home state of South Carolina at the Mother Emmanuel Church shooting. The believers of that church said to the killer, they said Matthew 544, you got to love your enemies and pray for those to persecute you. They said, I forgive you. Where does that come from? It comes from the recognition that we are all flawed humans, and as flawed humans, the most powerful thing we can do is to give it to the Lord. When we do that, we see this form around us. That is what makes America in pursuit of this thing called perfection. We will always, always fall short for mediocrity.
Starting point is 01:43:47 Are you going to strive for average? Or do you want to get as close perfectable? Well, we're only perfectible on the other side. But until then, let us strive in the direction of perfection because we believe in absolute truth. We'll miss the mark, but I'm going to continue to fight tooth and nail to be all that I can be until I am entered into heaven through the glory of God. I want to ask you something because we're talking about conviction. And you've been talking about religious conviction.
Starting point is 01:44:23 But let me ask you about conviction to our own country. we had a congresswoman Ramirez. She was at a summit in Mexico City. Over the weekend, she's speaking in Spanish, and she says, I'm a proud Guatemalan before I'm an American. We've had Elon Omar say that she feels like she serves Somalia more than the United States.
Starting point is 01:44:48 Can you be, you know, an official of the United States and hold up the Constitution? if you're, if, if you are not convicted that America is where your heart is, that that's what comes first. You could say God comes first. And I get that. That's first citizenship. But if your first citizenship is in Somalia or Guatemala,
Starting point is 01:45:16 how are you in the government of the United States? Should that be? Well, Glenn, let's just be clear for all. listeners, anyone who has taken the oath of office who says that their allegiance is to another country, they have betrayed their oath of office and they should resign. Period. Let me go a little further. Any American citizen who says that they are more beholden or more connected to their homeland, that's not America, then they too are as lost in a rainstorm. The fact of the matter is To be an American requires in my heart and my deepest understanding.
Starting point is 01:45:58 You have to assimilate, acclimate to what it means to be an American. You cannot hold an allegiance to someplace else while saying that, you know, I'm here because it's the greatest country on the planet. I'm going to celebrate home. The fact that you are here suggests that the most compassionate country on the planet has allowed you in. At least compassion and our love, at least. assimilate to what it means to be an American, and then go a step further.
Starting point is 01:46:29 Encourage everyone in your community to do the same. It is not okay to get here and be, you know, to say that Somalia is where you're going to celebrate your real affection or that you're somewhere in Mexico. That game has been played in the United States of America. An incredible melting pot. One scene at our in set place on the planet where we're, we celebrate diversity, but not multiculturalism. I think they're very different.
Starting point is 01:47:09 We have multiple cultures in our country, but unless they align under the banner, to be committed. And one of the things you'll read in One Nation always under God available right now at Amazon.com or books are sold. The one thing you'll figure out pretty quickly is we celebrate America. We don't celebrate any other country for one reason. We are the city on the hill. It is placed on the planet to call home, and I believe we have an obligation, a responsibility to celebrate all the founding fathers who went before us and the ordinary people who stood up for this American ethos, invented in the gospel, so as to move us towards being a more perfect union.
Starting point is 01:48:04 It is a prerequisite for public service that you, your heart. We are one nation. Senator Tim Scott, always great to talk to you, sir. Best of luck with the book. It's One Nation always under God. It is available now. One Nation always under God.
Starting point is 01:48:30 It's great to have this is a reminder for your family, a reminder for yourself on who we really are and how God is just woven into our DNA. Tim, thank you so much. I appreciate it. All right, let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour. Our sponsor is the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Every time things get darker for Israel, there's a group who always shows up carrying the light.
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Starting point is 01:49:56 IFCJ.org. Go there now. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, IFCJ.org. 10 seconds, station ID. So just, what is it, next week, I think. Kirk Cameron is. is going to be, you know, taking his cultural movement to the libraries again, your local libraries. And what he's been doing is been, he has been sending people out, celebrities, et cetera, et cetera, to read good, wholesome Christian books in the libraries and tried to take those libraries back from the radical left. I mean, remember, it was, you know, Trans Story Hour at the libraries. Just, I mean, this is going to be remembered as a moment.
Starting point is 01:50:50 moment of insanity and now a moment of healing. But he's going to be with us here in just a second. Also, Missy Robertson, married to Jace Robertson of the Duktaughnessy clan, going to be reading at the Library of Congress on August 16th with Kirk Cameron. And he's going to be joining us here in just a minute. So stand by Kirk Cameron on the Glenn Beck program. More in just a minute. This is Glenn Beck. We are at a point in history. We're telling the truth feels like a revolutionary act. Everything right now is upside down.
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Starting point is 01:52:44 prager you dot com slash glen donate now prager you dot com slash glen donate as much as you can prager you dot com slash glen get all our show prep every day in the free email newsletter it's at glen beck dot com glen we were talking earlier about uh jump in the shark and when uh this this crazy woke movement, jump the shark. And I thought it might have been the Jaguar commercial. But it also could have been maybe the Bud Light commercial. That's probably a better example, Stu.
Starting point is 01:53:57 Yeah, I mean, that's the most obvious one, right? The Dylan Mulvaney Bud Light moment, if you will. That one probably has to. be up there. Another one is someone suggests when Disney had a lesbian black space witch in Star Wars
Starting point is 01:54:20 and then Disney blamed Star Wars fans for being toxic says Rich. That's that's one that might work as well. There's a lot of examples though. There's a lot of nominees for this one. You know it was four years ago only I mean think of this. Kurt Cameron
Starting point is 01:54:37 was on this program with me. I think four years ago and he had put a book out and he was banned from reading it in the library all across the country and that kicked off a movement back then but it was wildly different times just a few three four years ago kirk is joining us now hi kirk how are you good morning guys i'm doing great great thank you for having me on the show how long ago was it tell the tell the story where where woke really just came down your throat. Well, yeah, that's just, that's some disturbing imagery right there. But, you know, you're talking about the black lesbian space which.
Starting point is 01:55:23 I'm remembering Buzz Light year and I'm remembering Bud Light commercial, just like you said. But for me on a personal level, it was four years ago when I went to public libraries and was outright locked out of them, just straight up denied by over 50. woke libraries that wouldn't let me read my wholesome children's book about faith, hope, and love to the communities that wanted to hear it. And when I told you and a few other friends who helped to spread the word, I put them on blast, reminded them that's America, this is unconstitutional, this is viewpoint discrimination of the worst kind, religious discrimination. And they quickly reversed their judgments, gave me an invitation. And when I showed up, there were thousands of parents and
Starting point is 01:56:09 grandparents who were there to support a movement of getting back to the values in education that lead to our kids' blessing and their protection. So that was three years ago? That was three to four years ago. Yeah, right around Christmas time. Look at how fast things have changed. And now this year you're going to be at the Library of Congress. That's nuts. Isn't that great? I love it. This is the perfect plot. twist in a great movie. Just when you think all hope is lost, when you're up against the worst kind of odds, we feel like we're on a freight train headed for a leftist brick wall. All of a sudden, the political winds change and opportunities open up. So we went from being locked out
Starting point is 01:56:57 of libraries to now partnering with the Trump administration to lead story hour at the library of Congress. And I think the key is, it's you've got to genuinely have, you've got to genuinely have pure-hearted motives behind what you do if you want heaven's help. You've got to have a clear conscience and a faith that doesn't flinch. And essentially what we need to say to those who are destroyers of our children's liberty is that we're not begging for a seat at the cultural table. We're building a new one. And now the Trump administration is pulling up a chair to change the cultural narrative because you don't let faith and freedom falter. You don't retreat when that happens. You rally. And that's what parents are doing. Are you concerned at all about Trump losing
Starting point is 01:57:56 to a Democrat for some reason? The economy goes sideways or something. And the vengeance that the left will come back with. Yeah, I'm sure they're chomping at the bit. I mean, they just, they're, they're salivating at the opportunity. But that has been the case. for 10 years to just destroy the man and the administration. And I don't know about you, Glenn, I think you would agree with me. I think that the divine hand of Providence has been behind this guy. I don't know how else to explain it. I mean, I'm not saying he's the epitome and moral paragon of everything that, you know,
Starting point is 01:58:31 we want our daughters to marry as a husband. Neither was David. Neither was King David. Neither was Moses. Neither was anyone in the Bible except for Jesus. Yeah, and certainly, you know, I mean, do we want to say that Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Obama, and Kamala were of higher moral character or anyone else behind the curtain, for that matter. I know of only a couple of people that I would say, I think, are really morally upstanding people at those levels of power and influence. But what I do know is more has been done for pro life, more has been done for families, more has been done for opportunity and education and freedom.
Starting point is 01:59:09 and I'm so thankful to be on this train right now. So how is Iggy and Mr. Kirk doing? It's doing so good. You know, Iggy, my little five-year-old puppet iguana that I'm raising in my backyard tree house, he's getting a little bit of a big head. You know, he wants his name at the front of the title of the show. It's Iggy and Mr. Kirk. It couldn't be the other way around.
Starting point is 01:59:34 He's got a tough agent. But kids love him. And that's on the brave. Brave Plus, right? Yeah, it's streaming on Brave Plus, but it's also streaming on the Angel Network, which we're really grateful for right next to The Chosen. And it's streaming on Pure Flicks as well.
Starting point is 01:59:52 My sister, Candace Cameron, is a big part of the Great American Family Channel, and it's streaming there as well. So people can watch it in all three places. She's very concerned about AI. Minchie? My sister? My sister?
Starting point is 02:00:10 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 02:00:17 Yeah. It's concerning. It's very concerning. Yeah. So, go ahead. Well, I was just going to say, you know, it's like so many other powerful pieces of technology, you know, there's so much to love about it. And there's so much to be terrified about it. And when Elon Musk says that he thinks it's a larger,
Starting point is 02:00:39 existential threat than nuclear warfare. You know, we got to, we got to take that serious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was, what was his name, Stu, from CNN? I forget, a total loser. Yeah, that's going to narrow it down more than that, but Jim Acosta. Yeah, Jim Acosta. Did you see Jim Acosta?
Starting point is 02:01:00 He just did an interview with one of the kids that died at Parkland through AI. And I saw that today. I thought of you immediately being on the show because I thought, this is making graven images. This seems just so unbelievably wrong. When you don't have, you know, it's soulless. It's a literal digital puppet of whatever the parents are thinking. It's not him.
Starting point is 02:01:31 It just seemed to cross a really dangerous line. Yeah. Yeah. It does, right? I mean, I think that's always our dilemma is things we create technologically. I mean, this is the stuff that makes for great movies. It's when the mad scientist creates the thing and then it falls into the wrong hands. And we're there.
Starting point is 02:01:58 I just did an episode on my podcast where we talked about AI relationships and people straight up have AI girlfriends, boyfriends, and virtual soulmates. And they're getting married to them, at least in their hearts. and ceremonially, and they're in tears saying, I've never been so in love. And you think, dismantling of the beginning of transhumanism, what will our sons and daughters marry in the future? Oh, it's the end of, obviously it's the end of humanity, end of humans. If we all pair off with an artificial being, you know,
Starting point is 02:02:39 we're not going to be making a lot of other kids. And it's a truly frightening world where, you know, you don't have to deal with any messy downsides of a relationship at all. You don't have to come home when you've had a really bad day and have the AI say, hey, you haven't even asked me about my day yet. I mean, that's part of being alive, you know? Yeah, yeah, I know. I've found nothing in my life to be more sanctifying or character building than being married.
Starting point is 02:03:17 Because that's the ultimate school where I learn how to be like Jesus and die to myself and lay down my preferences and serve somebody else. That's really hard for human beings to do. But with AI, you know, look, if you've ever wanted to program your husband so that he has the perfect responses to you, now you can. You're going to be with Missy Robinson. What is it, August 16th, right? That's next week. That's right. Yeah, Missy and Jace Robertson from Duck Dynasty are going to be with me at the Library of Congress for see you at the library.
Starting point is 02:03:57 And this is the big event that we have been done doing the last couple of years. It's the culmination of all these story hours and book readings. And it's going to be in hundreds and hundreds of libraries across the U.S. led by parents and grandparents, singing, praying, reading books of virtue and character and patriotism. And I will be at kind of the mothership, which is the library. of Congress with Missy and Jace and the Department of Education Center for Faith in partnership with the Trump administration. It's going to be awesome. It is going to be awesome. He's gone from, in four years, gone from being kicked out of 50 different libraries to now having over 500
Starting point is 02:04:34 libraries participating in this, including the Library of Congress. Kirk, always good to talk to you, my friend. Thank you so much. I'm so thankful for you. God bless you guys. You bet. You can find out more by going to see you at the live. Library.com. See you at the library.com. All right. Let me tell you about relief factors. Some people talk about getting their life back like it's a cliche, but if you've lived with pain, real daily, unrelenting pain, you know, it's not just a phrase. It's a goal. It's a milestone. Sometimes a desperate prayer. You start making tradeoffs without even realizing it. Maybe you stay home instead of going out.
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Starting point is 02:06:45 Alex Stein, our own Blaze TV's Alex Stein, appeared on MSNBC last night, though not in the typical interview fashion that you might expect. Here's a bit of his appearance on MSNBC. We just watched the speaker gavel out with a whole lot of anger, Kelly. Here's the state of play.
Starting point is 02:07:06 NBC sucks. How are you? MSNBC sucks. MSNBC sucks. MSNBC sucks. Okay. Sometimes this happens and we understand that that can happen. And while we love free speech, we're going to keep control here. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, you don't want to give full free speech, obviously. Now, of course, they have the right to cut away from that particular moment. But that's Alex Stein from Blaze TV, just saying MSNBC sucks over and over again. What we don't have is they went back to the conversation. It went on for a couple of minutes. And then they went back to. the same guy and once again just Alex just walks in the background and just starts screaming MSNBC
Starting point is 02:07:48 sucks again and like you know some people will have problem with with the way Alex is acting there but I don't think you can disagree with the point which is MSNBC sucks it's really hard to disagree with the foundational intellectual argument that he's making there and I think that is true Here is, we have a clip about Donald Trump and the administration. Talking about banning soda and candy sales in certain circumstances. Listen. Since my confirmation, our department has encouraged states to think differently and creatively about how to solve the many health issues facing Americans.
Starting point is 02:08:30 One way is by not allowing taxpayer-funded benefits to be used to purchase unhealthy items like soda, candy, and other junk food. The number one purchased by SNAP recipients is sugary drinks. SNAP is a supplemental nutrition program meant to provide health food benefits to low-income families to supplement their grocery budget so they can afford the nutritious food essential to health and well-being. That is the stated purpose of the SNAP program. So today I'm proud to sign six more waivers for Florida, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana, and Colorado. This is in addition to the waivers we've already signed for Iowa, Indiana, and others across the country. I continue to encourage states to be laboratories of innovation.
Starting point is 02:09:21 Think through how you can promote healthy families and healthy communities. Now, I am not healthy at all. In fact, I love sugary drinks and I love candy cakes and all the delicious treats. My house is basically like Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory at this point. Like, just every, every run, every corner. I'm starting to make furniture out of chocolate again. And I, look, I'm fine with all of that. It is a supplemental nutrition program, though.
Starting point is 02:09:53 This is supposed to help people who don't have enough money for food, get the food that they need to survive. It's not supposed to be Willy Wonka's chocolate factory. You know, if you're going to be on one of these programs, it's not the job of the program to make you have every desire that you imagine. It's supposed to be just the basics. Go back and read Ben Franklin's quote about doing good for the poor. How do you do that?
Starting point is 02:10:23 The more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provide for themselves and, of course, become poorer. And on the contrary, the less that is done for them, the more they did for themselves and they became richer. It shouldn't be a situation where we are subsidizing every delicious item on the shelf. It's supposed to be basic nutrition, and you want to make it healthy? Make it healthy. This is Glenn Beck.

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