The Glenn Beck Program - What Everyone's Missing About the Ed Sheeran-Macklemore Drama | Guests: Danny Burmawi & Orlando Salazar | 9/16/26

Episode Date: September 16, 2026

Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.) was confronted by TMZ and explained why she's boycotting Ed Sheeran as the drama surrounding his tour and Macklemore's removal continues. Since then, every opening act and Sheeran's touring band have dropped out of the show. Glenn breaks down the Left's hypocrisy in this instance, the impossible situation Ed Sheeran was placed in, and how almost nobody is thinking about the hardworking people who will be left empty-handed if the tour gets canceled. Glenn explains how both the Rose Garden unsealing of a Russian assassination-network indictment and the public acknowledgment of U.S. space weapons look like a coordinated warning signal to Moscow and China. Former Muslim Danny Burmawi joins to discuss why he proudly identifies as an "infidel" as he breaks down the dangers rooted within Islam. Does Senate candidate James Talarico (D-Texas) have a chance at turning Texas blue? Glenn, Jason, and Rikki go through some of the worst Talarico statements that should end his campaign in Texas. Voz Media founder and CEO Orlando Salazar joins to discuss whether Hispanics can be convinced not to be one-issue voters on immigration enforcement. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It comes on the radio while you're driving along. Are you changing the channels? I am. You are? Yeah. Why is that? I think that what we've seen, especially it's not just what has happened with the act and not just in removing McElmore from the lineup,

but when you see what Robert Kraft did to line up all of the stadiums to censor speech in that one specific way, it's become clear that this is not just about one music artist or two music artists, But this is about how just a handful of stadium owners and the elite can prevent an entire massive issue. In this case, the genocide in Gaza. But it doesn't stop there. It could be speaking out about AI. It could be speaking out about any issue that you can now just get a handful of stadium owners to ensure that an entire person's career can be jeopardized if they speak out about.

any issue. So it's like cancel culture. Is that what you're saying at AOC? It's cancel culture. Yeah, it sucks, doesn't it? When you can get a handful of groups together and they can put pressure on, let's say, I don't know, advertisers and get people pulled from the air, kind of sucks, doesn't it at AOC? My gosh, I'm going to lose my mind. I'm sorry. Blood might chew through my eyes at any moment. I can't take the hypocrisy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I know everybody always says it's the hypocrisy,

but it really is the hypocrisy. How they can clearly see it on one side and not the other. So let me tell you what's really going on here. Ed Sheeran is playing Philadelphia on Saturday. As of right now, he doesn't have an opening act. He was playing at MetLife. His opener, the rapper Macklemore, told the crowd that he joined the tour so he could stand in stadiums all across America and say two words,

free Palestine. I don't know. Me, I want to go to a concert. I'm paying to go see a concert, especially not going to pay to see the warm-up band. But when I go, I want to forget all of this stuff. Can you leave me alone? I don't want you to talk about Donald Trump and how great he is.

I don't want to hear any of it. music. But maybe that's just me. Maybe everybody who's going to see Ed Sheeran is like, oh, I got to hear about free Palestine. I got to hear about how wrong the Jews are. Oh my gosh. So then he played his protest song, written for students who took over a building at Columbia. Images of gauze on the screens, and he did it the next night. Okay. So now Robert Kraft, who owns the Patriots and Gillette Stadium. It's wholly independent. He owns it.

He barred McElmore from the building. McElmore says Kraft then rallied other stadium owners behind an ultimatum. He says, you don't play here. Okay. I know Robert Kraft has a right to do it because he owns it. So it's not a free speech thing. If you own it, I don't have to have you play here. You know, I own this building.

I'm not doing drag shows here. I'm sorry, and you can't make me. I own the studios. Sorry, not going to do it. Is that harming your freedom of speech? No, what you're saying is if a private person owns private property, you don't actually own your private property, and I'm sorry, I do. It's my property.

I can do what I want to do. Cool. So then the promoters can. confirm that venues told him exactly that. So Monday, McElmore off the tour. Crafts said it crossed a line, pointing to New Jersey and what he calls a broader history of anti-Semitic rhetoric and imagery. Okay. I'm being as calm and as nice as I possibly can on this. And I think you might be surprised where I come down on it. But anyway, so on Tuesday, Sharon speaks out. He says it's the promoters decision, not mine.

Okay. He said, I spent a week trying to build a bridge and I couldn't. Okay. He said, I'm not going to abandon the fans, the crew, or the musicians who rely on me to make a living. He said, he's appalled by the war, but he's not going to be drawn into a public fight over it. Good. That's his right, too. Just like it's McElmore's right to speak out against the war.

Within hours, every remaining supporting act quit. Aaron Rowe, an Irish singer-songwriter who says Ed changed his life. Bioga, an Irish folk band that played in the middle of Ed's set. Lucas Graham from Denmark. And Phineas, Billy Elish's brother. He was booked for South Africa. Okay, or South America. First of all, Fini...

What do you expect? It's Phineas, of course. The rest of them, I don't even... know. Now you might, but I'm not going to see, what is it, bodega or whatever they are. I'm not going to, I'm not going to pay a ticket of like $600 to see bodega. Okay? When they get big and I'm sure they're going to be big, well, maybe not. The world may never know their greatness now that

they've decided to do that, but that were their principles and that's their right as well. So let's look at this. A dad on X with fewer than a thousand followers did something almost nobody others to do, and that is write Ed Sheehan, a letter that just says, you know, a tweet that just says, dude, I love you. But this is so offensive. I had to leave the stadium with my kids and then come back when you were on. Really, is this what you want to be? That caught fire. He decides, Kraft decides to start it up with the stadiums and then we're off to the races. If Sheeran can't he eats roughly $25 million.

600,000 fans go home disappointed. 10,000 workers lose the days they built their calendars around. 25 to 50 million in profit disappears. And next time he does tours, he tours alone. Unless he makes every opener act sign a contract promising never to say anything political on stage, which I think they should do anyway. Now those are one man's estimates. It's not an audit.

But his was the only post that I read this week that remembered the guy who hangs the lights. That's why artists have business managers. Because if they were left their own devices, they'd be broke by Thursday and proud of it. I'm a starving artist. Yeah, whatever. But look what actually happened. because for a little while the system was working

Macho Moore said what he believed on stage out loud his right Robert Kraft decides you know what you're performing a building that I own it's my right to say

you're not performing here if you want to say those things McElmore was was Sheer and okay with that did you tell him because it's his show you're an invited guest okay

as long as the man is inviting you to be on the stage But then if he's invited you and you said, hey, I'm going to do this. And he's like, I'm fine with that. Well, then you got a problem with Ed. Forrecks walk away from real money over principle. I think their principal is wrong, but that's their paycheck. It's whatever.

Their protest, that's their right. Shearin decides he's going to keep his crew employed, keep his opinion on the war himself. His right. And every person holding a ticket gets to decide whether they're going to go or ask for a refund. They're right. Everybody chooses. Nobody arrested. Then comes the part that isn't a choice. Sharon's silence is now being called cowardice. One critic said he let a billionaire pick his politics for him.

Like you haven't with George Sorrows. McElmore's own song accuses artists who stay quiet of complicity. The rule is simple. Neutrality is not permitted. You are going to say what the mob tells you to say or you're guilty, is that the kind of country you want to live in? And I don't care. I don't care if it's happening on our side because we don't get a pass. We don't get a pass.

Anybody who says, you're, wait, wait, wait, you're for this war. You're a traitor. What? No. You don't agree with everything this guy does or that guy does or you don't agree with everything I say. You're a traitor. No, I'm not.

I'm somebody who has an opinion. sometimes I agree with people, sometimes I don't. Gillette is private. Now, here's where it gets sticky. Most of the other stadiums on this tour are owned by cities and states. I know that Philadelphia is 100% city-owned. That's a different story now, because now you can make a case. Now, I don't know how this comes out, but it's a city-owned venue.

So now you can make a case and say, this is, this is private speech. And you are violating my First Amendment because a city, a government, can't do that. Hmm. She. That's a problem, isn't it? That's a real problem. First Amendment. If a taxpayer-owned stadium banned a Christian singer for something she said about an abortion,

I'd be on the microphone for a week. I wouldn't want to go to the concert because I'd go to the concert. to hear about abortion. There's a growing crowd on the right that wants its own loyalty oath. And it's the same disease as we have. I mean, it's terminal on the left. Don't catch that disease. Now, I don't know what the answer is on this.

It's going to be raised by somebody. And it's another reason why the stadiums should be private and cities should run a city, not a stadium. You know, we've been here before. And it answers all of it. I'll give you that to you in 60 seconds. First, real estate agents, I trust, you can change almost everything about a house. You can paint it, you can remodel the kitchen, you can rip out the carpet, build a deck, knock down a wall.

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Okay, it's January, 1936, most celebrated young composer in the Soviet Union. He has an opera running in Moscow. One night Stalin comes in to see the show. He hates it. He leaves before the end. Two days later, the party newspaper runs an unsigned editorial calling this thing a muddle instead of music and warning that this is the kind of stuff that could end very badly. Okay, we know who wrote it. We know what the point is, right?

Whole country could read that. Friends stop calling. The story goes that he kept a small suitcase packed by the door because he knew that they would come for him one night and his family wouldn't have to watch him pack as he was being shipped off to a gulag. He didn't argue. He wrote, his fifth symphony premiered in Leningrad in 1937. Worst year of the purges, newspaper article described it as Soviet artist's creative response to just criticism. And he let it stand. That was his compliance.

But inside the hall, people were weeping. Many in the audience had lost somebody, somebody that was taken during the night, a brother who's just stopped writing all of a sudden. By all of the accounts, the ovations would go on for something like half an hour. Here's what happened. Censors heard obedience. The room heard the true grief. But nobody could say it out loud. But everybody knew. Twelve years later, Stalin sends this guy to New York.

And he's standing there at a press conference at the Waldorf Astoria. and a Russian composer who had fled the revolution stands up in the audience and said, do you agree with Pravda's attacks on Stravinsky? Stravinsky was a guy this composer admired. He stands up and says, yes, I do. I completely agree.

Now, did he? Anyone in that ballroom who was paying any kind of attention knew that that yes was worth nothing. It told you nothing about him. It told everything about the room he knew he had to go home to. This is what compelled, bullied speech buys you. Not belief. A sentence with no one inside it.

The editorial is a footnote now. The fifth is played on every great concert hall stage on earth. People figure it out. You force Ed Sheeran to say free Palestine and you've learned nothing about Ed Sheeran. You force him to say, I stand with Israel. Same thing. All you've learned is about the room. Now, I am not neutral. I've never been neutral on this. October 7th is one of the clearest atrocities of my lifetime. Grandmothers, babies, kids at a music festival at a concert, killers film it. They brag it. They

post it online. They're proud of raping children and then setting them on fire. And within days, people in crowds in Western cities are celebrating. It's sick, it's disgusting, it's evil. Now, I don't know the hearts of the musicians who quit this week, and I'm not going to pretend to. Macklemore says anti-Semitism is real. Well, okay, let's measure him by what he does as the guy who got on stage and gave a Hitler salute. Okay, so I don't know how much credibility you have.

But the people who planned that day carried it out, cheered it on. Here's the good news. they're not going to win in the end. Because people always figure it out. The way that audience did in Leningrad, they knew. Now it takes longer than I'd like it to take, but I believe it's starting. I believe people are figuring this out,

and they're done with it. Okay, so what does this mean to you? We're constantly handed a question, this question, at work, in a group chat, at school. Post the square. Add the line to your email. What are your pronouns? Say the words.

And if you don't, well, what does your silence mean? Here's what you need to know. Your answer is allowed to be. You know what it means? It means I'm not telling you and it's my right. I own my conscience the way Robert Kraft owns his at his stadium. Nobody gets to rent it. He owns it.

You, you say what you mean and mean what you say. And don't cower to any bully on any side. Spend your money like it's yours because it is. If you think Shearin's a coward, skip the show. If you think he's the only grown up on the stage, buy two tickets. Nobody can take that vote from you. And remember Saturday in Philadelphia, the guy who hangs the lights, who goes to work because a singer decided the crew wasn't going to pay for

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between the states. Thank you, thank you, Glenn for all of the summer learning that you put out on the Bill of Rights for the insiders. It really inspired her to step up. The confidence she gained from winning the cartoon contest this summer

really has inspired her. I couldn't be prouder. I mean, how great is that? If you are trying to teach your kids, you know, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and what everything means, we're, you know, bust in our butt. I'm doing something right now with Prager U.

I'm in filming for the next three days or next two days. I just did one yesterday. And we are, they've gotten together with the Department of Education along with others to have these done in AP and other, you know, higher history classes. And I'm in the vault with the artifacts and I'm just telling the stories. And I think those will be made available to you too, I think through Prager University, but I'm thrilled to be able to have the opportunity to do that.

Also, if you're an insider, today is definitely worth it. Today I have these, and Jason knows because he used to travel with the family when he was security for me. We get the opportunity to do things that like nobody gets to do. And especially now that we have this museum being built here, this American History Museum,

museums are opening their doors and their vaults and their back rooms to us. And so I went on a history tour with my family. And I did so many things that nobody gets to do. And I'm so frustrated because at the end of it, somebody would walk up to me and say, now you know you can't talk about any of this. And I'd be like, oh, come on. Come on. And so I can't share anything.

But probably the biggest thing, I think this is the if true, if true. I think this is the biggest archaeological find I would say of all time. Jason, would you agree with that? Yes, there's maybe one other thing that I would say also biblical time era that I would say would be equal. But yeah, this one, I don't even, you'll get into this. But I don't even know how you would verify.

I guess I'll just put it that. way because I don't think anybody would want to. Okay, well, you're going to hear all this today. And so I'm going to, I'm going to, and I took pictures and you're going to see it. And it will absolutely blow your mind. But that's at the end of this special that I'm doing right after the show today. We're adding an extra hour to the show and it'll be at glenbeck.com slash torch. And I'm going to show you the pictures and everything else. But also, I'm going to show you, I had a brush with evil that made the hair stand up on my neck. And have you ever been out to eat?

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slash torch, glenbeck.com slash torch and see that. Believe me, you will not be disappointed. Okay, there's a couple of things going on. First, let me tell you about what happened yesterday. was announced yesterday in the Rose Garden, the Russia indictment. The charges have been unsealed against five people working for Russian intelligence to conduct attacks and murders around the world, including in the United States. The network allegedly recruited a Venezuelan in Brooklyn to surveil a Washington target, then offered him $40,000 to eliminate that Washingtonian. Okay. When the indictment happens when a plot is disrupted, it is normal that they would unseal it and they would announce it, okay? But Blanche yesterday announced it at a White House Rose Garden press conference rather than in a DOJ release, which makes this a presidential message. Everything, I learned this when I was at Fox from Roger Ailes.

you have to read the news differently than you do. You read it and you're like, oh, yeah, that's what that means. No, no, no. Sometimes they're messages, okay? The Washington Post style section used to be the place, and I think it still is. Roger showed me some things in it, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. But the style section used to be the thing that the White House could go to and say, I need you to plant this story.

And they'd say, well, that's not news. don't do that. We'll put it in the style section. Okay. And so there would be, if you ever read the Washington Post style section and there happens to be a story in the style section that seems like news and it has nothing to do with style, you know that's a message to somebody. I don't know. Again, I don't know if it still is, but it used to be. So doing this in this unusual way, the president was sending a message.

I don't know what it is, but I know the talks, you know, with Moscow over Ukraine, are going, and the posture of Putin has been really uncompromising. He has no intention of ending the invasion. So the White House coming out and sending a message from Trump that, hey, we just caught your assassination network on U.S. soil. that's raising the cost of stalling without closing the door. It also is like Trump is soft on Putin. No, he's not. Did you see what he just did?

Deterrence for the recruits, etc., etc. It's also a message to Europe. The indictment also covers terrorism against infrastructure in European countries aligned with Ukraine. What does that mean? That's a message also to Russia because Germany has just come out and says, that these drones, they now can prove they came from Russia. And what they were doing is they went and flew over the German border, illegal, flew over the German border. And one of them bounced off of a Ukrainian plane.

And this Ukrainian plane was shipping supplies. The explosives didn't go off. I don't think that was a mistake. They didn't want to blow anything up in Germany. They wanted to send a statement, we can. So, you know, the point of Dr. Strangelove was the doomsday machine is useless unless you keep it secret. Washington Post today is saying this is a not so subtle warning to China and Russia. And that goes also to the space, the space weapons.

This one is fascinating to me. It is my guess that we have already had Star Wars. We have already had skirmishes in space. There's a reason we have Space Force. We know or suspect that China has satellite killing devices in space. We are particularly vulnerable because almost everything we do is so high-tech and it's all satellite-based. It's all our GPS alone. Everything is happening through our satellites.

You blind our satellites and we're done. So yesterday we put some sort of, or yesterday we announced that we have weapons in space. This is the first time anybody has ever said and verified we have weapons. We know, we're highly suspect, that the Russians, but mainly the Chinese have already done it. So again, why was this announced yesterday? Why do we say that? Because remember, you keep it quiet. I don't think so.

I think it goes back to what we talked about. What was it last week when Trump said, the moon is ours, like grew? He tweeted, the moon is ours. And everyone's like, what? What is he going to now name that, you know, the sea of tranquility? The Sea of America?

What? I mean, the moon is not ours. You can't own the moon. What was he doing? Why would he make that crazy thing? Because there's a method to this madness. He was sending a message to China. China is months behind us on getting down to the south pole of the moon.

It's strategic that we have that particular space. First one there, as long as you're occupying it, You get it. We have to be there. And so that was Donald Trump saying to China. We're ahead. You know it. We know it. I think they had just had a problem with one of their space things. And he said, the moon is ours. Everybody who doesn't understand the news and doesn't understand signaling that a president or a White House does looked at that and went, that's madness. No, it wasn't. It was a message to our enemies. And that is my guess on what happened yesterday in the Rose Garden with Russia. And what happened yesterday when we announced, Hey, you know what? We got stuff in space that can knock here. We got little pew-pues up there.

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Let me see some things. By the way, Ricky, can we talk about why Erica, was not in the TPSA thing or why I suspect she's not. Can we talk about that? I mean, it's being reported everywhere. And Andrew Colvette from TPSA was on Fox News, is talking about it. All right.

So I was at TPSA and she calls me up and she's like, Glenn, would you do the keynote for Charlie's Memorial at UVU? And I said, sure. Now, she is at the Republican convention, yeah, the RNC convention on that night while I'm there. And people were like, why isn't she there? I really honestly thought it was because, well, do you want to go back there? Do you want to go back to the scene? Did Jackie O go stand in Dealey Plaza?

No. Some bad memories there. So I didn't give it a second thought, but here's what's now being reported. It was more than just her going, I would be uncomfortable. It was more of her attorneys saying, you're going to be very uncomfortable if you show up because there is a lawsuit that is about to be dropped on UVU for wrongful death because they should have covered. I mean, honestly, I looked at the roofs before we, you know,

before we got there. We checked other snipers on every roof. And they were, I've never seen, I bet that security cost DPUSA quarter of a million dollars. It was a security that you only see at like a presidential thing. And they had it covered this time. They didn't the first time. And they were the ones. It was UVU. They were the ones. And there's an email that goes out. You do have the roof covered, right? Because we saw that there's a door, there's a way up, or something. So they knew. They said, yes, we have it covered, and they didn't. And so there's a lawsuit that is going to be dropping soon against UVU, which good. I'm glad. I'm glad. You know, it's not the same person that is, that was running it. That person, I'm so glad

is gone from there, but I'm sure she's at some other university. But, You know, these universities, they have to learn their lesson. You can't take one side seriously and the other side not. You can't do what you're doing. And they were responsible to a great degree for his death, in my opinion. Well, just as much as the Secret Service was responsible because they didn't check a roof. Who's responsible for that? We all agree it's a Secret Service.

Who is responsible for this? UVU. I think it's a pretty open and general. shut case, but I'm not a lawyer. All right, a great hour coming up next. You met this guy, I think last week. He is a Muslim that turned Christian and now is ringing the bell. Wait until you hear his story next. Hello, America. You know we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you. We work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it. But to

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But PR wire, which is a newswire that always just publishes people. PR releases would not release this because they said it was too controversial. And that's why I had him on. I'm like, what could possibly be so controversial? Well, here it is. He was a Muslim. He was born in Jordan. And he was a guy who saw September 11th and cheered. And then came to Christ and is like, what is happening? And he had some experience. And I don't know what they are yet. I want to start here. I don't know what is experience.

was, but it totally turned him. He's like, I'm on the wrong side. And now he is leading campaigns to say, wake up, wake up, wake up, because here it comes. And he is right about that. Danny is joining us here in just 60 seconds standby first. Think about how many things you can do without ever walking into a building and showing your face. You can open accounts, you can move money, you can apply for credit, you can buy things, change information. It's an enormous. It's an enormous. part of your financial life. And it happens without you physically being anywhere near it. It's incredibly convenient.

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not mistaken, you told me you cheered on 9-11 and not for the Americans. Good morning, Glenn. Yeah, I was 13, as I told you, but it doesn't mean that I was radical because that is a misconception. If you are a Muslim, then you side with Islam. You side with Allah. You side with the believers, the followers, the faithful to Allah. And America is against Allah. So I cheered not because I was radical. And in 2006, I became devout.

But again, that was not radicalism. That was just mainstream Islam. I became devout in response to the Danish cartoonist who drew the prophet of Islam in Denmark, if you remember, in 2006. And I decided, all right, I'm going to defend Allah, I'm going to defend Islam, I'm going to defend the faith. And one year later, I left Islam. So of course it's a long journey.

Wait, wait, wait. Why did you? I mean, you're ready to go defend Islam. What changed? I could answer this question in different ways, but I would say that first, the theological answer. In Christianity, we have something called justification. You feel at peace with God. You're justified, not because of your performance, but because of what God has done on your behalf.

In Islam, there is no sense of justification. You feel this enmity. No matter what you do, how dedicated you are, I'm not exaggerating. I would wake up at 4 in the morning and then wash with cold freezing water because that gets me more credit with Allah. And walk to the mosque and I take the longer road because that gets me more credit in dark as I was praying. please give me peace. God please give me your light and a year later there was nothing absolutely nothing and of course on top of that you read the history you read the violence you read the personal life of Muhammad and God sent someone my way who started planting the seeds of doubt you know when you read

the Quran for example if you're a Muslim and you read the Quran you read to worship, not to understand. There's no critical thinking there. And I did that for all of my life. And then this guy started, you know, asking questions. Like, hey, where do you think of this? Where do you think of that? And for the first time, I would be reading the Quran and, oh, my goodness, Muhammad married his daughter in law. I was like, what is this? And then I would say, okay, okay, there got to be an answer. I would go to an imam or a cleric. And I was like, What do you think of this verse and no answer? So anyway, I left Islam and I became Christian after reading the Gospels.

And that's what happened. Have you heard this? I've heard that I don't know if any of this is true. But I have heard that there's a ton of Muslims that are converting now, especially over in the Middle East, because they're having dreams of Jesus. Have you heard that? Yes, I heard that. I was a missionary in the Middle East for 14 years.

I worked in eight different countries, planting churches, preaching the gospel. And I'm not a big fan of the theology behind dreams. I'm reformed, so I know that meant your audience won't be like that. But anyway, no, I believe that millions of Muslims are leaving Islam. Millions. You won't believe that full churches are women in hijab. they just converted and they still wear the hijab it's a cultural thing but yeah it's happening all over the islamic word that's for sure you you said something a minute ago that there are

basically there are no radicals how do you explain that yeah the radicals in islam they are the secular the moderate because what is radicalism you're not um adhering to the genuinely to the faith. If you are following the commandments of the faith as Allah meant them to be or Muhammad meant them to be, then you are just a moderate. And ISIS, Kaida, they're moderate Muslims. They are the true followers of Islam. I know that is shocking. I know that many people

would call this Islamophobia. Well, you cannot call me Islamophobia. Try if you want. My mother is still a Muslim, but I'm telling you the truth. If you want to be a faithful Muslim, you must be a terrorist. Thank God, the absolute majority of Muslims are not faithful to Islam. The Islamic countries, Glenn, they have deactivated Islam. They keep the shell, but their laws, they are imported from the West. Unfortunately, not 100%, but I mean. if if you steal something you don't get your hands what is the word amputated you

don't get it amputated why because they don't follow Sharia anymore they don't behead you they don't stone you they used to do that in Saudi Arabia until recently that is that is Islam that is moderate Islam and there's let me let me be clear here Islam is monolithic let me repeat that Islam is monolithic I know that many people love to say, oh, Islam has different set of beliefs and different currents. That is not true. Muslim sects, they differ on ridiculously minor things or non-theological things. I'll give you an example.

The two major sects in Islam, Sunni and Shia, you know, Iran and Saudi Arabia. They have been fighting for 14th centuries. You would think, oh, they're fighting over theology, just like Protestant and Catholics. No, they're fighting over politics. Who should have been the caliph after Muhammad? Is it Ali or Omar? But on theology, they don't differ on anything. The same God, the same book, the same prophet, the same biography of Muhammad, the same

sayings of Muhammad, minor things. So would you say then the people who follow the 12th Amam, the 12ers as they know, as they're known that that's what most of Islam follows? Because I've always heard the opposite, that the 12ers are really frightening and dangerous. I was a Sunni before. I converted to Christianity.

I was not a 12th or Shia. Yeah. Let me tell you this. Sunni Islam is way more dangerous than Shia Islam. Even though Shia Islam, the 12ers, they are Iran and Hezbollah. and the West has painted a picture about them. But think of ISIS and Hezbollah.

Yes, Hezbollah is a terrorist organization that's for sure killed Americans and doesn't hesitate to kill civilians. But nothing, nothing similar to what ISIS did. Burning people alive. Just remember 2013, 14, 15. And so Sunni Islam, that violence in Sunni Islam doesn't have a purpose. It is for the purpose of terrorizing the enemy. In Shia Islam, violence has a teleological end because they're waiting for al-Mahdi.

Of course, Sunnis too, they're waiting for a Mahdi, but it's like a different version of Al-Mahdi. But let me say this again. These are eschatological differences. They are, they don't agree on what's going to happen when al-Mahdi comes back. But when it comes to the main pillars of the faith, because I need to be clear about this, when I say Islam is monolithic, I mean the Quran, the same Quran, the same interpretation of the major doctrines. They pray five times, five times, Muhammad, his story, all of the main things.

But eschatology, even among Christians, if you think about it, we have a thousand different eschatological interpretation within Christianity, right? But we go to the same church. Maybe if you are next Sunday, ask the person next to you, what do you think about this scatology? Probably they don't believe in the same thing as you do, but you still go to the same church. Why? Because this catology is not really the main pillar of the faith.

Correct. Yeah. But it is starting to become an important topic, as many people believe we are living in those end days. People have, I mean, the apostles thought it too. So you never know. And the Shia end of time story is almost like somebody took the book of revelation and, you know, just wrote the opposite.

And you're like, I mean, wow, because their good guy is our bad guy and our good guy is their bad guy. And I think they mean it. And, you know, when you're looking at, you know, the scriptures tell us is, you know, a 200 million man army. Okay, that might be China, but that's easily Islam. If 10% of Islam is radical, that's over a million, a hundred million man army. Yeah. You know, and I think it's probably, you know, if things got heated up, you'd have a 400 million.

man army easily with Islam. Every generation thinks of themselves that this is the end times. We are the generation of the end times. Because we love to be the center of event. We love to think that we are the most important generation that has ever left. I don't, even though I'm a theologian myself, but when it comes to ascotology, I prefer to keep it to myself. because I believe that you have been following what was happening since October 7 and how there was a debate between dispensationalism and replacement theology within Christianity and the anti-Israel were weaponizing theology and chanting crisis king, crisis king, you know, to take a jab at Jews.

Using theology to justify your actions or your positions, this is something global. Every group in the world does that. The difference is that in Islam, and this is something, this is a very important point, because many people think that Islam is like an embryonic version of Christianity. You know, Christianity was violent, then there was the reformation, and then Christianity became reconciled with liberal democracy, and now Christianity can coexist. That is ridiculous.

That is ridiculous. Christianity was never violent. It was Christian people who were violent. and based on no scripture at all. So when the church decided to do anything, like to burn witches, for example, there's no scripture to support their stance. Now, the difference is that in Islam,

it is the text itself. So when people say, is it possible to reform Islam, again, they are projecting their own understanding of religion unto Islam. They think, oh, the same thing is going to happen within Islam, just like Martin Luther and John Calvin.

But that is a false comparison, because the Christian Reformation was going back to the Sula scriptura, to the text. If Muslims decide to do that, we will end up with two billion ISIS terrorists. We don't want that. So Islamic Reformation took place after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, and that was the birth of the Muslim Brotherhood. That was the reformation. So another definition or misdefinition, I would say, is that in the West, when the founding fathers penned the Constitution, the Bileph rights, they were not thinking of Islam. They were thinking of different denominations within Protestantism and Catholicism, maybe Judaism. They were not thinking about Islam at all, because Islam does not fit the Western definition of religion.

Islam is, Islam has. Wait, wait, wait, wait, I just want, I got to take a problem. break. I want people to sit with that and then I want you to come back and explain that. You're saying Islam, and this is critical, you're saying Islam does not fit the definition of a religion. Quite a statement. Back that up in 60 seconds. My Patriots apply. You have a plan for almost everything in your pantry. The cereal is for breakfast, pasta, probably for dinner this week. Chips are, you know, may not survive until tomorrow. I'm just saying if I'm at the house. But you buy food, you intend to eat it. And I'll tell you that every,

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Prepare with glenn.com. 10 seconds. Station ID. You're saying that Islam is not a religion. Back that one up. Okay. So what is a religion and what is a political ideology? A religion, we have different definitions in sociology, I'm sorry, in sociology, in sociology.

It's like you can't define it as you want. but it is a set of idea and a group of believers in that set of ideas and the desire that the rest of the world follow it because you see it as the best way forward for humanity right it has a metaphysical component and so forth and so on now what is not a religion is the desire to seize political power to impose that set of belief on the society Communism has a set of ideas. If Karl Marx is the prophet of Marxism, the manifesto is the holy scripture of Marxism. What if communists today decide to say,

well, we are a religion? Would you accept that definition? Of course not. Why? Because communism wants to seize political power to impose their understanding, their set of ideas on their society through politics. Islam has a religious mandate in the Quran. to seize political power to enforce their divine law on the rest of humanity.

So that is the difference between Christianity and Islam, for example. Christians, we want the word to follow our set of beliefs. We desire them to do so, but we have no mandate to seize power and enforce it on people. So Islam is not a religion. Islam has a religion. Islam has a religious component. Just think of your room, your house. You have a kitchen.

And this is what I told Jeremy Boring when he interviewed me. I told them, look at your kitchen. Your house is not your kitchen. Your house has a kitchen. Islam is not a religion. Islam has a religion. So when you understand it from this perspective, then... Everything changes.

Everything changes. All right, we're going to come back here in just a second because I want to know... what he believes is coming our way, what Americans have to wake up to, what the world needs to wake up to, and the thwarted ISIS plot in Pennsylvania. Back with more in just a minute. If you plan to keep a car for 15 years, you take care of it, you change the oil, you replace things before they become bigger problems. You don't wait until the engine falls out on the highway and then say,

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That's at noon eastern, glenbeck.com slash torch. We're kind of talking a little bit about this right now with Danny Burmawi. He's a former Muslim. He is the CEO and founder of the Ideological Defense Institute. And we've just been talking about how he says Islam is not a religion. it is a political movement with a religion inside of it. And I have to tell you, that's why I don't think you have to worry about freedom of speech and the First Amendment really on Islam.

You know, it's way I get a right to practice my religion. No, that you're not, though. You're not. When you're doing certain things in Islam, you are not practicing your religion. You are actually trying to overthrow the country to take power, in my opinion. And is that kind of the same thing that you're saying, Danny? Yes, back to the definitions, as we were talking before the break. When people think of Islam, they think of Christianity.

No, when you think of Islam, think of the United States of America. Think of France, China, because Islam is a state. Now, that state has a religion. You know, the United States has Christianity, the major religion. It has a constitution called Sharia, just like the Constitution of the United States. It has population. They're called Muslims. So Muslims are analogous with Christians.

It's analogous with Americans. We must look so incredibly ignorant and stupid because they say it in their mosque. They say it out loud. We're going to take over. We will have Sharia. That means overthrow. constitution of whatever country they're in and they've done it in in country after country after country and there's something wrong with us danny honestly that we just we just don't see it and

we're not willing to stand up and speak the truth yeah as you were saying glen even if 1% of muslims because i don't want to come off here as um you know vilifying or muslims the majority of muslims they don't adhere to these uh because uh to these doctrines because they are not practical. And they, honestly, they ignore most of Islam. Because if you want to adhere to everything that Islam teaches, that is a problem. You would end up in Syria's in some city in Iraq living with ISIS or with Taliban. Islam is not practical at all.

And Muslims, they have cognitive descendants. It wasn't Muslim. I'm telling you that confusion, you don't know how to live in the word because your belief system is completely. completely contradictory with the reality around you. So what are you going to do? So you ignore it. However, if we have 1% out of the 5, 6 million Muslims in America, only 1% who are faithful,

who are willing to carry out all the teachings of Muhammad, then what is that like 50,000 people? So you have, literally, you have 50,000 ISIS terrorists living in America today, just at 1%. So can get your legend? Yeah. We just foiled a plot. And he's, if I'm not mistaken, he's a white guy.

It doesn't matter. It's a word of you. Yeah, who has converted. He was an American that converted to Islam. And they just foiled a plot where, thank God, where he was going to go do major damage because he was dedicated to the belief of ISIS. Yeah, dedicated to the belief of Islam, I would say. Just look at.

Just look at people who convert out of Islam. They become Christians, Jews, or atheists. You know, they become peace advocates. They become, you know, just look at the majority of them. Have you ever heard of a Muslim converted out of Islam to become like a terrorist? Of course not. But the majority of people who convert to Islam, you keep hearing about them. It's like a convert to Islam shot a homosexual in that club.

A Muslim to Islam. convert to Islam, joined ISIS. What's going on? I'll tell you what's going on. People who convert, usually they are more faithful than the people who are born inside the system. Right? Yeah. So people who become Christians, they become very faithful.

They become missionaries. The same thing on the other side. People who join Islam, they are not satisfied with the superficial practicing of the faith. They want the profound meaning behind the faith. And that's why they become radical or they become the true representation of Islam. So now, when we are talking about the United States and Muslims in the United States, again, I don't want to vilify Muslims. Of course not. But the problem is in Islam as an ideology.

It conditions you to always pledge allegiance to Allah behind the enemy lives. Would you say this is akin to what we're seeing with Marxism? There are a lot of people that profess they're a Marxist or they're, you know, whatever, or they could coexist with Marxism. But they don't want to live in a communist state. But there are those Marxists who are like, no, then you're a traitor to the ideas of Marx. We are going to be a communist state. And so in the end, they go along because they don't want to die.

Yeah. Is that akin to what you're saying here about Muslims? Absolutely. Yeah, exactly. in any system that punishes dissent, there got to be something wrong in that system. That totalitarian systems, they attract, they love each other. Why do you think this red, the green alliance? They don't agree on anything, absolutely anything, except the enemy.

And, you know, both of them, they want utopia and they want the caliphate. They tell each other, and like without words, they're saying, Let's postpone that conflict until later, until we take down the West, and then we'll deal with that. Yeah, but we know what's going to happen then because, you know, Islam is going to just destroy the communist. Never, they always do. That's what they did in Iran. Never go up against people who actually religiously believe something, because they'll die for it. And many Muslims have proven, oh, they'll die for it. Let me share this story with you, because this is really important. There was a Jordanian Christian communist, a journalist.

And four years, he was entire Israel, entire America. He wrote books about Hassan Nasala praising Hassan al-Praising Muhammad. He wrote an article called Muhammad, Our National Symbol. many years. Then in 2016, he posted on Facebook. Actually, he just reposted a caricature about how ISIS imagine Allah in paradise. And immediately, millions of Muslims, they were calling for his execution. They were putting bounty on his head. Within days, he was shot killed. with his family, even though he spent all his life trying to defend Islam against the West.

Now listen to this. The judge, when the killer entered the room, the judge, he was a Muslim Jordanian, he told him in front of everyone, may Allah bless your hands to the killer. And then he sentenced him to death. What does that mean? That means because Jordan embrace

or imported the global Western civil law, they had to sentence the killer to death, but the judge, he was projecting or his Islamic sentiment, he was expressing that Islamic sentiment. This is what's happening in the West today. You have many people, for example, Abdul Sayed, he is wishing Jews happy Roche-Hashana. Really?

You celebrated what Hamas dead. You said hurt people hurt or whatever he said. And so think of it this way. He has to speak the Western language because he wants the votes now, but the sentiment in his heart. Why is it important that these people like Mamdani and El Saeed, why is it important they do, Americans don't vote for these guys and put them in office? Because they will never, ever serve the interests of the United States of America. because the interest of their home country, which is Islam, is antithetical to the interest of America.

Look at them, they run on platforms of healthcare, defunding the police, or whatever borrowed language from the left they take, and then they spend their time trying to alter American foreign policy, trying to make sure that Israel doesn't get the support, it needs in an ocean of enemies. So that just the same pattern keeps repeating itself everywhere. Mam Dani, every week he has to visit a mosque. Every week he has to talk about Islam, but every week he has to throw a bone to the useful idiots so that they would be pleased with him so that they would let him do

whatever he is doing. Quickly, why do you call yourself an infidel and you're happy to do it? So the Quran calls all non-Muslims infidels. And the infidel awareness month between 9-11 and October 7, as I shared with you last week, is about amplifying the message that we are infidels. And Islam is there to get all of us. So I'm an infidel. That means I'm a target of Islam,

and you are a target of Islam. Now, I understand that the indoctrination, 50 years of indoctrination turned Americans to think that 9-11 was a response to American aggression, that is the rebranding of Islamic jihad. Islamic jihad is not about American imperialism. It is jihad against the infidels. Just like in the 17th, 18th century, when Thomas Jefferson sent the letter to the Congress talking about his meeting with the Muslim leader of the barbaries.

And he told him the Muslim leader, he told him, we are fighting you because the Quran told us so because you are infidels. So back then there was no Israel. America was not in the Middle East. It was jihad. It is the same thing behind 9-11, the same thing behind October 7. And so this is the message that we are trying to amplify. Danny, I think you're an incredibly brave man. You have said more on this program than I think I've heard anybody say about Islam on any mainstream format. I hope your voice goes far and wide. You can find out how you can support by going to infidelawareness.com. Infidelawareness.com. I'd love to have you back. And I'd also like to talk to you about who else is joining you, because I know that this is a full month

of trying to wake American infidels up to see what they're facing. And so please, please please stay in touch with me but it's also beyond it's also beyond this month the ideological defense institute idea i centered or exist all throughout the year to help americans understand what's going on right but we'd love to stay in touch with you thank you so much for everything that you're doing denny thank you for having me glent was an honor you bet thank you all right back in just a minute that uh that hour that's kind of hour gets you killed uh welcome to it gang Because that, well, I have to go back and listen to everything that he said, but I don't think I heard anything that I really disagree with on that. Especially once he clarified everything.

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So a Pennsylvania man planned to carry out an ISIS-inspired mass casualty. before the FBI investigation thwarted him. Speaking at a press conference yesterday, Jonathan Kramer, 21 of Valencia, had pledged allegiance to the Islamic State of Syria. He was arrested Saturday outside a hotel in Cranberry Township around 25 miles north of Pittsburgh with a rifle, ammunition, and dozens of knives in his possession.

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with me is sometimes really odd, as Jason, who used to do security for me will tell you, I get an opportunity to do things that most people never get to do. Now that we're opening up our own museum here in Dallas, the American Journey Experience Museum, these museums are starting to open up their doors as well. And I saw some things that nobody gets to see. One of the things I was allowed to see, and I didn't think I was going to be allowed to tell you about it, was a new archaeological possible find. And you'll understand why I say it that way, if you're watching.

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This is in the last hour. It's a fourth hour, an additional hour today. It begins at noon Eastern, only at glenbeck.com slash torch. You don't want to miss it. Now, let's talk a little politics. Talrico. I think we need the Talrico song here, Talrico, Texas, because this guy is now they're saying he's four points ahead of his Republican challenger,

Ken Paxton. and it could be. Could be because Texas has changed. Texans just believe Texas will always remain the same and it's not. It's changing. And this guy is not what he is saying he is. He's going around Texas now saying, I'm just like you. I believe in all the same things.

No, he's not. He's a radical and we have him in his own words. And we'll share those with you in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about rapid radios. You know, we've never had more ways to contact people. ever. I mean, you can call them, you can text them, you can email them, you can send a message through one of the 15 different apps. You can contact practically anyone on earth in about four seconds. Now, reaching them, that's a different matter entirely. That's what I like about rapid

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5% off at rapid radios.com. Would you remind me, Jason or Ricky? I, I want to make sure that my wife and I, I want a rapid radio right here on my desk, and I want a rapid radio in her purse all the time. I got home yesterday. I had done radio. I went right into two meetings. Then I went into a writing session. No, I did an interview.

And then I went over and I was filming for four hours with Prager University. I get home. I'm dead tired. It's like 6 o'clock. And I get home and my wife said, did you, the same thing she says to me every day. Did you see my texts? And I'm like, no, honey, I haven't seen. Why don't you check my text? Honey, because I'm working. I haven't had a chance to see the text. I just want to rapid radio. I do because I'm tired of that question. Did you see my text? No, you know what? Push this button. It'll ring right to me. I don't care. if I'm on the air, I will let, yes, come in, come in, Captain Tanya. Yes, I'm here. What do you need? And it's always like, do you want to go out and see a movie on Friday night? Yes, yes, I do. Yes, I really, really do. So could, Ricky, could you just tell Lauren. She'll get it done for me.

I have already passed on the message and I didn't use it. a rapid radio to do it, but it is passed on. All right. Thank you. Thank you. On my desk. One one interpers. Because you know what I'm going to do all day? I'm going to go, come in, Tanya. Tanya, can you hear me? Hey, Tanya, you're not, this is not inconvenient for you to talk to me right now. Am I disturbing anything by talking to you right now?

I'm going to be doing it to her. So it's war. Anyway. All right. Let's see. Let's talk about Taurico. In fact, do we have the Dalairoico? Texas song because I mean this says it all. It's Taurico, Texas where the brisgets made a piece. Made a piece.

Sure. Trees, don't we? I love my gal, my dog, my truck. My whiskey and my lord. Just don't go asking what I said in 2024.

I think we might maybe. Disagree on the Lord. Van's a kind of man. Yeah, it is, and it says a lot in Texas. Okay, so, Tala Rico, the guy is, honestly, the guy is, he's nuts. He's nuts. He is not Texan in any way, shape, or form.

Let me ask you this. If somebody came, Jason, if I came up to you and said, hey, Jason, who's your favorite drag queen? I got nothing. I got nothing. It's not like, it's not like I'm having to think between a few. I'm not like, wait a minute, wait a minute, I know that, I know, I've got nothing. I got nothing. This is exactly what happened with Talrico.

Listen to this. This is Talarico, so nice to read and tire. I was there when you defended the drags. Who's your favorite drag queen in Texas? Oh my gosh, probably Alyssa Edwards. Alyssa Edwards. I love Mike Mays. Thank you so much.

Oh, probably Alyssa Edwards. I mean, like no hesitation. Who's your favorite drag queen? Oh, Alyssa Adwold. It's got to be Alyssa Edwards. I mean, you know, I've been thinking. about it for a while. You know, I used to, I used to really love Tom, you know, missing Peter. And, but I, but Alyssa, I just really, really love. I really love. Who is Melissa?

Jason. So, Alyssa. Alyssa, sorry. Not Melissa. You didn't know off the top of your head. I'm sorry. I confused Melissa and Alyssa all the time. She's another drag queen. So Alyssa Edwards was actually featured on Netflix. A video was seen of Alyssa Edwards on Dancing Queen, where he is in full on drag at a dance studio working with little children. What could possibly go wrong there? I don't even know the show.

If somebody said, what's your favorite Dancing Queen show? I don't think I could even come up with Oh, Dancing Queen. I couldn't even come up with the name of the show, but apparently he probably had to know the show and the drag queen. So two points for him.

While we're on this, would he support trans ban on minors, cut eight? Would you vote in favor of a national ban for transgender surgeries when it comes to minors? Absolutely. And in fact, in the legislature, I voted for an amendment that would have restricted the bill in question to a ban on surgeries for minors. Wait, wait a minute. That's a plot twist, isn't it? Here he is on cut nine. During the 2021 hearing, you said there are six biological sexes. Do you still believe that standing here in me right now?

No. I've missed the mark on some of my past statements. I will be the first to admit it. What I meant is that there are two sexes and then there's a small percentage of people with genetic abnormalities. I obviously didn't say it correctly. There are not six sexes. There are two. Oh, come on.

Does anybody believe this? Does anybody believe this? You can't say there's six genders and then say, no, there's two sexes. Because the whole thing is it's not about sex. It's about gender. Remember? That was the whole argument. You can't name your favorite drag queen and then say that.

Yeah. Go ahead. I don't think anyone believes this. And this includes the Texas Democratic Party manager who was caught on a hidden camera on, I think, the Daily One. wire caught this and they said, well, this is the temer. Actually, I have the video. Do you want, do you want to play it? Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Here it is. Oh, why would he walk back? Mm-hmm. I would say that right now he's trying to target a whiter net, which unfortunately means, like, being more palatable to Republicans here in Texas. Okay. And I think that from the character

that he's shown us, it seems like he does believe the things that he said before. His support for trans children has not changed, though. And his heart, he still supports. Yeah, I think it's, you talk to some Republicans, and they're very Republican, especially here in Texas.

Very, very to the right. That's all it is. I mean, it's, it's, who doesn't know this? Who really, really? Texas, you're going to get what you deserve if you let this guy win. You're going to get what you deserve.

and I don't want that to happen. I mean, you can't let this. There are a lot of dumb people who will go, yeah, it's just like me. I'm kind of like that too. I believe, you know, maybe there's some people that were, you know, have sprouted three weaners, and so we've got to take them into effect,

but there's only two sexes. That's just like me. That's not who he is. And those people exist, and they're going to go out and vote, because he's also going to promise free stuff. And if you're at home going, you know what,

I just don't really like the way, you know, Cornyn and I, you know, I don't like Ken Paxton and the way he handled his marriage. Yeah, neither do I. Neither do I. Are you going to punish yourself by putting this clown in?

Who do you think's going to get hurt by that? But, you know, hey, it's your vote. Whatever, whatever. And by the way, he wants you to know that all of his money is coming from hardworking Texans, cut six. The thing about fundraising is you got to look at where the money is coming from. You know, I don't take a dime from corporate packs. I never have, never will.

All of my money comes from hardworking Texans who are giving five, ten, $15 at a time. Mm-hmm. And billionaires. And billionaires. And people from California that you're taking money from. Come on. could you do it? Could you sleep at night? Because I know all politicians, and I shouldn't say all politicians, a lot of politicians. They do this. And they say, could you sleep at night? Because I couldn't.

Ricky, you want to add something to this? Oh, I'm just saying, this guy wears Texas like a skin suit. He goes, there's ads of him going into Cracker Barrel and pretending like he's one of the hardworking Texans that he's talking about. And it's just like a joke. And he's just like, what do I do with this? biscuit. Like, he is a tale of two Talaicos. Truly, truly. There are two Tlerikos. We have evidence of this. Several statements on tape going back years and say, whatever you want about Ken Paxton, he hasn't changed. I'm going to play one more. Cut seven. And then I want to give you my commentary on it. Scripture tells us that you can't love God and hate other people. You can't love God and abuse the immigrant. You can't love God and oppress the poor.

You can't love God and bully the outcast. We spend so much time looking for God out there that we miss God in the person sitting right next to us. Absolutely true. In that neighbor who bears the divine image. I was brought up to believe that in the face of a neighbor, we glimpse the face of God. Matthew 25 tells us Christians, exactly how we're going to be judged and how we're going to be saved by feeding the hungry, by healing the sick, by welcoming the stranger.

I often wonder, what would Jesus do if he visited the U.S. Senate? I think he would tell the senators on the floor, depart from me. Depart from. I was hungry and you cut my food assistance. I was sick and you kicked me off Medicaid. I was a stranger and you deported me and my family. Pre-John, brother. This is the biggest heresy I have ever seen.

That's not Jesus. Give me a minute. I'll come back. I'll calm down a bit. Because Jesus is clear on what he would have said to the Senate. He already said it. We can go check the book. It's in the record.

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I don't know. I don't think Jesus would be in the well of the Senate, you know? I think he would have a problem with that. I mean, first of all, he'd have to chase all of those money changers out in the first place on both sides of the aisle. But he wouldn't say, you know what, get behind me or what did he say, depart from me because you cut my Medicare or Medicaid? No, no, that's Caesar's. That's Caesar's responsibility. Jesus is talking to the individual. not to the collective. That's what these people always, they believe in collective salvation.

That is not what Jesus taught. He's changing your heart. You see somebody that is homeless, help them. You want to feed them, feed them. You can't do it yourself. Get a community together to do it. Not the government, because that doesn't change your heart.

Have you ever felt charitable, on April 15th ever. Do you know how much good you're doing? Yeah, I don't care. I would have done better with my money than they're doing. It's a scam. It's a power structure. That doesn't make me feel charitable.

When you do something, you're supposed to choose to do it yourself. You want to do that? Then let's argue about a flat tax. Because I've got to tell you, you give me a flat tax, I'm giving so much more to charity than I already am. So much more. Because I'd have my money back.

I wouldn't have had any confiscated by the end of a gun. Jesus is not going to lecture anybody who's had their money taken from them with a threat. You're going to jail or we'll shoot you, you know, or whatever it is. He's not going to lecture those people to say, you know what? You should have kept taking more of that money from people. No. Jesus came for the individual, period. Now, I don't think we have time, Jason.

and I've got to get into this, but maybe to my... Can you just summarize quickly what this church is really all about? Yeah, the pastor at his home church said, quote, we still have people in this church who wish that the young man had not just nicked his ear, but had been more successful. He said if you pulled our members and asked him if they were Christian, agnostic, or atheists, the vast majority would say agnostic or atheists because they don't buy the religion that we got from the Puritans.

So what kind of church did he? he go to? Does he go to? That's not a church. Don't let him lecture you on Jesus. Please. Please. Don't let me lecture you on Jesus. Go find Jesus in the scripture and find him in prayer. He's there. He's waiting to hear from you. And you don't have to vote or donate to his campaign. All right. Let me tell you about Patriot Mobile. It's very easy for a company to have values that don't and then those don't cost them anything. Put some words on a website, issue a statement, change the logo for a month. Congratulations, you've taken a courageous stand that actually required absolutely nothing from you. I'm much more interested in what a company does with its money. You know, what are you actually doing? What do you

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vacation story time session is happening right after this show ends only on Torch. Head to glenbeck.com slash torch. Watch it live or on demand. I was hoping to have a big announcement for you today. And I can't make it. I'm going to give it another day.

But I hope to have something for you tomorrow. So join us. And that's just a, I'm saying, you know what, I'm saying that because I want everybody to know that is in my chain of, you know, partners to know, if I haven't called you today, then I'll be calling you late tonight because I want to make an announcement tomorrow on something. Anyway, I brought in Orlando Salazar. He is a native Texas. He lives in Dallas. He is his brother owned. 44 farms, largest Black Angus operation in Texas, 600 Walmart stores. He also is big in charity, started, or I shouldn't say started. He has served on the board of Thrive Women's Clinic, which is fabulous at Crisis Pregnancy Center and done a lot.

But he is also a partner here of mine, Vos, which is the largest conservative Spanish language news media company in the U.S. About 2 million views every month, 20 million digital impressions every month, and they operate here in our studios. And we have been partners for quite a while, and you guys are killing it. And you're absolutely alone in this.

Thank you, Glenn. You know, there's a number of... He just had to run up to your office for some of your stand of breath. He doesn't usually sound like he's having a heart attack. Some pretty steep stairs. It's a tall building. Yeah.

But there are some... other people trying to get into this space because they know that it is a critical space in our country and the future of our country, especially on the political side and in the voting side. But we are the largest right now. Just to give an example, Fox News started a Spanish language program and kind of this kind of what levels the playing field as far as media, as you well know, is YouTube. So we have 430,000 YouTube subscribers. in about two years. It's called Fox Notices.

They have less than 90,000. Really? Yes. So we are. So tell me about, and this is one of the things that I, you know, is so important because last, last election, you came in and said, Hispanics are with the president. This election, I have talked to you in the hallways and you have said, there's some real problems here. Can you address this? What is happening? Well, he had the Hispanic.

community in the palm of his hand after the election in 2024. Then he brings on some leadership that started their view of trying to, I guess, complete campaign promises, which was remove people from the country. But we have to remember how did they get here and why did they get here? They got here because a president, previous to him, allowed them to come in. So, It was an invasion, so to speak, but it was an invasion of invitation, by invitation. And so now we have 15 to 20 million illegal people in the country, and we have a new administration who says, now I'm going to get you all out, which, you know, most normal Americans, yeah, we need to get them all out. What Biden did was wrong. But Biden was the precedent.

He let them in. But would you say, I just have to push back here. Yeah. Wouldn't you say that you knew that, yes, Biden did that, but you knew half the country was against it. And if it flipped the other way, it ain't going to go in your favor. You're going to be going back. Absolutely correct. We agree with that 100%. So then we all agree we need to get those people out of our country.

Right. Which is fine. And then things kind of started going sideways because, you know, they started doing just criminals, criminals, criminals. criminals, which was everybody agreed with that. We agree with that. But now you start, then they have a quota system. We want to reach 40,000, 50,000 every month. So now they're struggling. Okay, we have to meet these numbers. So now they start going after quote unquote everybody. People who have been here for many years, maybe not that many years, but they go to Home Depot or they go to the little local convenience store to try to find work. And so they started going after those.

guys. And so, or they go after the guy who's been here 10 or 15 years, 20, 30 years. He has kids in school. He has a business. He has kids serving in the military. And they go after that guy, which they have every right, legal right to do so. But the PR problem that creates is very big. So I will tell you this. I saw a, I saw a, I saw read a story that the ice agents go into a Mexican restaurant. Eat and then arrest everybody in the restaurant. And I thought all of those people should have been fired. Every single one of those people should have been fired. What are you doing? That just, that almost looks like you're rubbing it in people's faces. Really bad PR, really bad PR. So how would the president fix this PR problem? Because, you know, we were just talking about

Tala Rico and he said, you know, Jesus would say, you have to be kind of the stranger. Yes, but Jesus also understood there are laws of Caesar and there are also laws of the universe and laws of God. Correct. And so you have to balance those things and we cannot be the lifeboat for the rest of the world if we flood all the lifeboats. I don't know how we're ever going to even think about getting 20, 25 million people out of It's not going to happen.

No. Because there's just not enough time in the first place. Things will change. We don't have the resources. Right. And so I don't know how that happens, but, you know, making sure that we are getting out as much as we possibly can. And I agree, going after the criminals was the best thing he could do. Go after the really bad guys.

Correct. And set an example. We're not taking this at all. So I have zero problems on anything with ice when it's dealing with the bad guys. I think, and nobody was hurt would buy it, I think ice going in and having dinner at a Mexican restaurant and then arresting everybody is horrific. Horific. It's horrible, and those stories are the ones that are hurting the president right now. So how do you fix that? Well, everybody knows that we need a worker program.

You know, Bessett, what's the name of the? Bessett. Bessett. Yeah. Besson. He said, you know, wages are up because we've reduced the, you know, number of illegal workers in the workplace. Right. Well, that's wonderful that the wages are up.

That's wonderful, wonderful for everybody. The problem is we still need workers. We still need workers. So do you think that how many of the, you know, 15 million that, let's say are here, anywhere from 10 to 25 million, how many of those, if the government said we're going to issue worker permits would actually go in and get one? because in my opinion, I would rather have, you know, if there's 20 million people here, I'd rather have all of them registered so I know exactly who they are and they're here

and you're paying and you're doing the right thing and you're not living in the shadows to be able to protect you, et cetera, et cetera. But how many of those people, how many would do that? Well, I think there would be a way to incentivize them to do that. But we definitely need a guest worker program. I mean, it is just, there was an article in the Dallas Morning News. the other day, which they don't always do, you know, great stuff. But it basically said, you know, construction workers, construction in Texas, 38% is made up of immigrants. Oh, yes. So we need workers.

So I think if the president would announce some sort of worker program, that would make a big... And what would be the incentive? Well, to document them, to know that they're here. The thing is, Glenn, is that these people, they don't want to become necessarily citizens. They just want to be able to go back and forth across the border without getting arrested. They want to be able to go back home to... That is absolutely fine. They just want to go to their parents' funerals. They want to go to their cousins' weddings.

And does that keep them from getting Social Security and, you know... Whatever the policies are is the ones that they would live under. Because they're here to work. So you think the problem is... is they, you think that these people you're talking about just come here for work and that's it. And they're loyal to their country and they want to go back and forth, but they want to work. And you think that would be. You know, I think they're, that's a very interesting question.

Who are they loyal to? I think they are loyal to this country. But their main goal in life is not to be. An American. Well, it's not to be an. impact politically, they're here to make their family's lives better. Look, I know people who have worked in the shadows, and I think it's tremendously sad. It is.

That have worked in the shadows, and they are here, and they have been in hiding for years and years, and they are hard workers, and all they're trying to do is send money back to put their kids through college. That's it. That's all they're trying to do, because they can't do that in Mexico. And I don't have a problem with that person coming across the border, and we're knowing who they are. I have no problem with that.

I think the problem is, and this is the thing you'd have to solve, is gas workers are vital and important. But new citizens, that's a whole different story. That's a whole different story. Because now you have rights. Now you have all kinds of stuff. I think personally, if we had everybody documented on what they were, you wouldn't have the problems that we're having right now. Because they're not documented and they're afraid, they can be pawns to the world. kinds of people.

You're absolutely right. Let me show you something in Second Chronicles, Chapter 2. Solomon took a census of all the aliens who were in Israel. After the census, his father David had taken. And they were found to be 153,600, and he assigned 70,000 of them to be carriers, 80,000 of them to be stone cutters in the hills, and 3,600 foreman over them to keep people working. So there has been since biblical times the need for foreign workers. But as we see even in biblical times, and Solomon, the wisest man who ever lived, knew that

we had to have a census, that we had to have control over who was in our country, and we had to know how many of them were in our country and what they were doing. So we have a biblical precedent for that. See, I don't think we disagree. Do you think we disagree? No, of course not. I don't think we disagree on this at all. No, not at all.

his path to citizenship and people coming in across the border and breaking that law and cutting the line in front of everybody else to become a citizen. If we need a guest worker program, as long as it doesn't give you a cut in the line for path to citizenship or anything like, I have no problem with that. But see, that's where policy comes in. You know, they have to create this where it's a win-win for everybody. So what's going to happen in this election? Great question.

a lot of damage has been done. The president had the Hispanic vote in the palm of his hand at the end of 2024. And it has like slipped through his fingers. So I told me this in 2024. You're like he has him. He does. But he can lose them quickly. Well, I mean, I'm going to say a name.

Cristino. That was a problem. And that's where everything started going bad, unfortunately. And so very quickly, things went from looking really rosy to really dark within about a year and a half. And so it's been really hard. And the rhetoric, for instance, there was something that the administration put out that was somewhat insulting.

You know, there's an old cartoon that's the magic school bus. Well, they had an image of a magic school bus, which had a bunch of people being taken to the border and saying, okay, we're getting you out of here in the magic school, but you're out. I mean, we get it, but that is a very bad image descent regarding what's going on. I don't know how to fix this. I don't think anybody really knows how to fix this, but I'm, I'm saddened that we can't come together and find a way to be able to with, uh, uphold our laws, do the right thing for the country, have people who are here that are not supposed to be here removed in the right way, and then also have people who are coming through the front door,

come in in an easier way, and also be able to have a guest worker program. I don't know why that's so hard in Washington. It seems... Well, I can tell you why, because no side wants the other side to get credit. No side wants the other side to win. because if they do, the other side is going to start getting more votes than the other side. So they want it to stay broken because the Republicans don't want the Democrats to get credit for fixing it. And the Democrats don't want the Republicans to get credit for fixing it.

And so it just remains the way it is. Thank you for everything you guys are doing. Well, sure. Thanks for, I mean, you guys are out. You're the only conservative. And it kills me because Hispanics are conservative. Well, we are conservative, and that's, you know, you guys have been talking about Tala Rico.

I mean, he's, he's a menace to Hispanics. He's doing a lot trying to reach Hispanics in Texas. And, you know, he's misusing God's word, as you guys have been talking about. Completely misusing God's word. So we need to be out there to let people know, this guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Thank you, Orlando. We'll talk to you again. Appreciate it.

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