The Glenn Beck Program - What Glenn's Haters Got Wrong About 'George AI' | Guest: Andy Ngo | 12/9/25

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

Glenn and Stu discuss a case before the Supreme Court that could limit the president's firing power. Should the president be allowed to fire the so-called "experts" within the government? Glenn warns against giant companies like Netflix or Paramount gobbling up other companies and consolidating everything. Glenn shares why letting emotion override principles when reacting to a disturbing news story is dangerous. Glenn gives the seven tools that people use to destroy a civilization. Glenn and Stu discuss Texas Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D) running for Senate. Journalist and Post Millennial senior editor Andy Ngo joins to discuss how conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirk's assassination could keep justice from being served. Glenn responds to some of the criticism of his George AI tool, setting the record straight on what his critics got wrong. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We've got a lot to talk about today an awful lot. We're going to have to move quickly on a few things. but I want to first start with what the Supreme Court is hearing now, the justices, whether you can fire, a president can fire somebody in the administration. Because if they don't work for him, who do they work for? The courts, this is an amazing conversation that has to be had and people need to understand. I'm going to go through the federalist papers in a non-boring way. I'm going to try in a non-boring way here.

to give you a real sense of what the justices should be doing, whether they're going to do it or not, but have you had enough of the experts yet? Katanji Brown Jackson, Jackson Brown, as I like to call her, she weighs in on this. You're not going to believe it. Coming up, well, yes, you will. In just a second.

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Call 800906 2440 for details about credit costs and terms. Okay, so President Donald Trump fired the Federal Trade Commissioner Rebecca Slaughter. Federal Trade Commission is an administrative position. This is under, I mean, the head of the Federal Trade Commission. Trade Commission sits as a cabinet member. And if the the justices uphold Trump's firing of slaughter, that will overturn a precedent that was horrible that was set in 1935. Remember 1935, we're flirting

with fascism. You know, everybody thinks, because they haven't seen the horrors of fascism yet. Everybody thinks fascism is neat, blah, blah, blah. And so what they do is they they say that this is an independent person and the president can't fire them because they're, you know, independent agency. Well, wait, that would make a fourth branch of government. Our constitution is really clear. There is no such thing as a fourth branch of government, right?

So that's what they're deciding. Now, here's Katanji Brown Jackson, who is talking about how we really need to listen to the experts. Cut four. Because presidents have accepted that there could be both an understanding of Congress and the presidency, that it is in the best interest of the American people to have certain kinds of issues handled by experts who, and I think you were in your colloquial with Justice Kagan, you identified the fact that these boards are not only experts, but they're also nonpartisan. So the seats are actually distributed in such a way that we are presumably, eliminating political influence because we're trying to get to science and data and actual facts

related to how these decisions are made. And so the real risk, I think, of allowing these kinds of decisions to be made by the president, of saying everybody can just be removed when I come in, is that we're going to get away from those very important policy considerations. It will get away from those policy considerations and it will create a opportunities for all kinds of problems that Congress and prior presidents wanted to avoid, risks that flow inevitably, just given human nature, the realities of the world that we live in. Okay. Now remember, what she's saying here is we have to have experts. We have to have experts that don't really answer to anybody, okay? They're appointed and then they're just there.

this from a, quote, judicial expert who cannot define a woman because she's not a doctor. She's not a scientist. She needs an expert to define a woman. That's how insane her thinking is. Okay. Now, I'd just like to ask the Supreme Court, when you want things run by experts, do you mean things like the State Department? or the Council of Foreign Relations that have gotten us into these endless wars

for a hundred years. Because these are the things that Woodrow Wilson wanted. He wanted the country run by experts. Okay. So is it like the Council of Foreign Relations that keeps getting us in these endless wars or is it more like the Fed

that directs our fiscal policy that has driven us into, well, $38 trillion of debt? We have all-powerful banks. that strangely all belong to the Fed and endless bailouts for those banks. Are those are the experts that you're talking about? Or you're talking about the kind of experts that are doctors that gave the country sterilizations, lobotomies, transgender surgeries, you know, or should we listen to the experts like the

ones that are now speaking in Illinois to get us death on demand like Canada has with their made assisted suicide, which is now the third largest killer in Canada, made, assisted suicide, third largest killer in Canada. Experts are saying we now need it here and they're pushing for it in Illinois. Or should we listen to the experts, and I think many of them are the same experts, strangely, that brought us COVID. Yeah, that was an expert thing. They were trying to protect us because they need to do this for our protection.

So direct from the labs in China with the help of the American experts like Fauci, we almost put the world out. Should we listen to those guys? Or the experts that brought us masking and Home Depot is absolutely safe, but Ace Hardware wants to kill Grandma. Which are the experts that we want, that we want to make sure that we have in our life that they don't answer or can't be fired by anybody?

I just, because I'm pretty full up on the experts. myself. I don't know, but you know, you're right. These experts would keep the president in check and they would keep Congress in check and you in check in the Supreme Court, which would be really great, you know, and you know who else they keep in check? The people. So, wow, it seems like we would just be a nation run by experts and our constitution would be out the window because that's a fourth branch. And if you don't believe me that, you know, these experts never pay price. Can you name a single expert? Give me a name of an expert that gave us any of the things that I just told you about. Give me the name. Give me, I mean, give me the name of one of them.

Give me the name of one of them that went to jail. Give me the name of one expert that has been discredited. You know, where your name is going to be mud in this town. Do you know where that came from? Your name's going to be mud. It's not MUD. It's MUD. It's MUDD. It's MUD. It comes from Dr. Samuel Mudd. He was a doxter. He was an expert. He was the guy that set John Wilkes' booth's broken leg. He made crutches.

He let him stay there for a while. He claimed he didn't know him, but he did know him. In fact, one of the reasons why they proved it is because when he pulled the boots off, which he pulled both of his boots off right there in the back, you couldn't have missed it. It said John Wilkes booth. He's like, I had no idea he was. Yeah. Well, you knew him in advance.

this was a predetermined outpost where he could stay and it's clear you knew him. The guy was so discredited, we still use his name today. Your name will be mud in this town. And we think that it's like dirt mixed with water kind of mud. No, it's MUDD, Dr. Mud. The expert that was so discredited went to jail, paid for his part of the assassination of Lincoln. Give me the name of one of the experts in the last 100 years that has brought us any of the trials and tribulations,

the things that have almost brought us to our knees. Give me the name of one of them. Can't. Because once you have an expert class, they don't answer to anyone. So they never go to jail. Wow, doesn't that sound familiar? people never going to jail.

There's a rant that's going around right now that I did in 2020. And everybody's like, see, he's talking about Pam Bondi. No, no, I've got to play this rant for you here a little later on in the program. But I want to get to the experts and what the Constitution actually says about that. Because you don't need my opinion. What you need are the actual facts. So you can stand up and say, yeah. I think Katanji Brown Jackson is an idiot.

Okay? And she's really not an expert on anything, especially the Constitution. You need the facts on what the founders said, because the founders would be absolutely against what they did in 1935. Because that just, what does it do? It just sets up a fourth branch of government. We'll get to that here in just a second.

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The answer is yes. Now, the case about the FTC isn't just about one commissioner or one firing. This is about whether the American people still own their government and their life. whether the government has slipped its leash, we've warned about this forever, has it slipped its leash, or are we going to, are we going to now take the Constitution

and put the government back in the chains that are owned by the people? Madison warned that power cloaked in expertise and shielded from the people would someday become the very definition of tyranny. Those are his words. I was amazed. I started looking at George, and I'm looking, you know, what would the founders say about this?

What's in the Federalist papers? There's nothing in the Federalist papers that actually speak directly to this case. However, Madison warned in the Federalist papers that, quote, power cloaked in expertise and shielded from the people would someday become the very definition of tyranny. I don't know. It seems pretty clear to me. It's the same thing. Hamilton argued that executive power must be vested in one elected president so the people know who's responsible, who to praise, who to blame, and who to punish.

So the answer is really super clear, okay? Leaders answer to the consent of the government. In other words, you get to vote them out. Now, what happens to that system when an independent agency wields the power to regulate, business, punish citizens, rewrite the economic rules, effectively legislate. Yet the president, the only officer elected by the people, cannot remove those people in charge. That doesn't sound like a government of the people and by the people. That's not independence. That's insulation. That is the birth of something entirely new, an unaccountable power center, a fourth branch of government. All of the branches have checks and balances. They all check on each other. Okay, so none of them can get out of control. But if there's a fourth branch and no one can fire them,

how are they not the all powerful branch? America has filled the government with tons of these people, the FTC, the SEC, the NLRB, the CFPB. Do you even know what those are? These are, these are fiefdoms of power. They make the rules. They enforce the rules. They adjudicate disputes. They punish violations. And they do it without ever standing for election, without ever answering to you. And if this stands without any meaningful presidential oversight, you don't have a country that that responds to you at all, the founders would have looked at this structure and said, you've created exactly what we designed the Constitution to prevent, a government within the government, a bureaucracy above the ballot box, a system where experts rule because they believe

they know better than the people. Look, if this were so constitutional, if this was the right thing to do. Why did Woodrow Wilson work so hard and the progressives work so hard from the 1900s, late 1800s, 1900s to about 1935 to get it done? Why didn't they just do it? Because at that time people knew the Constitution and they knew you couldn't do it. And yes, there is a place for expertise. But there is no place in the American system for unaccountable authority. The Army, argument being made in court now by the defenders of this administrative state is unbelievable. They say if we allow the president to remove any of these officials, he might replace them with people he trusts, loyalists. Okay, that means the presidency is the problem. No, I'm sorry. That

means the will of the voters is the danger. Get that? It's not the president. It's you. Take Trump out of this. Well, the president, if he can fire people, if he can fire people that are making laws, enforcing laws that don't answer to anyone. If he can do that, that means you can vote for a president and say to him, I want this crap to stop. What is this? These people don't answer to anybody. I don't even know who's making the rules. And if he can fire them, then the government answers to you. But if he can't fire them, they don't have to worry about elections. As if democracy has to be shielded from the people. And you know that's exactly what progressives believe. That argument exposes the rift in our worldview. One side belongs, believes that sovereignty begins with a

citizen. It belongs to you. The other believes sovereignty belongs to the bureaucracy and the citizens is an inconvenience that has to be managed. This is the argument. It's been going on for over 100 years. So this is what we have to decide. The truth is really, really simple. You cannot have executive power without executive accountability. And if accountability disappears,

Liberty disappears right after it. Even Chief Justice Roberts called the old precedent a New Deal artifact that is a dried husk. even that guy knows. Because the world that created it is gone. The administrative state that grew out of it is now something the founders would have seen as a threat to the Republic itself. We know what fascism does. It's bad.

And that's the beginning of fascism. That's why it came out in 1935. The justice has asked a really critical question. If Congress can invent more of these agencies, give them long terms. shield them from removal and then turn them loose on the American people, what stops Congress from turning the executive branch into a museum piece? Right? Just a powerless showpiece. The real rulers will operate behind thick glass and procedural walls, right? And the answer to that question is nothing, nothing but the Constitution. Now, the question is, do we have the courage

to still enforce it. Do we have the understanding of the Constitution to insist that happens? This is not about Donald Trump. This is not about any single commissioner. It's about whether the American experiment still remembers its first principles. If sovereignty flows from the people,

then the people must be able to correct the system. But if government power is placed beyond your reach, beyond accountability, beyond election, beyond elections, then you are no longer sovereign. You are simply a subject managed by experts, ruled by committees, supervised by a permanent clerical class whose careers outlast everybody you've ever voted for. That's not a republic. That's an empire of administrators.

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And if they don't answer to anybody, then you don't have a republic because who's actually running things? I mean, we've already seen this. Congress doesn't make laws anymore. They give it to the administrative state. The administrative state makes the decisions. Then they're telling us that, and that's not their job, that's the Congress's job, according to the Constitution.

They already gave that away. Now they want to say any of the experts on any of these panels or anything else that are in with the administration, the president can't fire them. Well, then how do you as an elect, as a person that goes to vote, how do you change policy in this country? You can't.

Because you'll just keep electing a new president who will promise to change things, and he can't change things because his hands are tied. You can write to Congress and say, hey, I want things changed. You can elect a whole new Congress. And they all say, we're going to change things.

But if they can't fire the people who actually make the laws, then what are you doing voting? And don't think that this is not by design. This is exactly what the progressives wanted from Woodrow Wilson. And honestly, I asked that question, you know, with all honesty, tell me the experts that have been running things, the Fed, our health, COVID, our wars. Tell me the name of the experts that you're like,

we could not have done it without this person. I'm glad they made all of the decisions and left us out of it. Can you name one? Because I can't. I can name a lot of experts that I think should have gone to jail. But again, why haven't they gone to jail? Why haven't they at least been fired? Have you ever noticed that people get away with stuff that you and I would go to jail for

or at least be fired and wildly discredited, and they still have their job? You wouldn't. Why is that? Because of what the Supreme Court is deciding right now. This is such an important case because these experts are just getting worse and worse and worse. I mean, Stu, what's the name of the lady up in Canada

that is trying to get health care? She's going to die. They're just, they're putting her. her unmade where she doesn't have to go and have assisted suicide. Yeah, no, it's absolutely unbelievable. Jolene Van Alstein is her name. She has a rare form of parathyroid disease, and it causes extreme bone pain, nausea, and vomiting.

So really, really rough situation. There is some hope for her, which is a surgery, and it would remove her parathyroid gland. but she's in Saskatchewan and there is no surgeon available to do the surgery. No one can do it for her. Now in theory she could go to another part of Canada

to get this surgery. However, the government bureaucracy prevents her from doing that without a referral by an endocrinologist. However... Another expert. Another expert. The problem with that is

there are no endocrinologists in Saskatchewan accepting new patients. So she can't get in to get the referral. And so she's in so much pain, she's been dealing with, I guess, an increasing level of pain and awful side effects for years now. And she's at the end of her rope. And she can't get into a doctor to get the referral so she can go get the surgery. So her answer is made, which is the assisted suicide program. and that is, you know, only weeks away.

January 7th, she's been approved to kill herself. You've got to be kidding me. Oh, they'll prove that. You know, and who do you go to fight? Who do you go to fight? You can't go to the government to fight it because the government will say it's the experts that are running the health industry. They're the experts. So they make all of the rules.

I can't change anything. Well, that's the problem. That's the problem. How many times have you had to go to a doctor, had a problem? It's really simple to fix, but they require all of this paperwork, all of this bull crap, and they put it in your way, and you can't talk to anyone about it. It's just the way the system is. That is what the Supreme Court is deciding right now.

Are we going to live like that for another hundred years, or until this country just completely dissolves? or are we going to take back the Constitution and your individual sovereignty so you don't have that kind of a system where they'll quickly get you off the rolls. They'll quickly approve you for death and help you die. By the way, we have got to find, there's got to be, what is she, what kind of doctors does she need? She needs. Somebody that can remove a thyroid? Yeah. A surgeon there and I guess probably an endocrinologist to go through with the symptoms.

they're saying that they're trying to appeal to the government, the health minister. Apparently they did have some recent meeting. I'm not sure what happened with that. But the... This is so wrong. Yeah. I mean, the fact that this would even be an option, I hope there's some way to work through this. There's some way for this to change.

Okay, so here's the thing. Is there somebody in this audience that knows a surgeon that does that kind of... What is the surgery she needs? To remove a parathyroid. It's To remove a parathyroid Yes If you're a surgeon

That will do that I'll pay for her to come down I mean is there anybody that will do this Can we raise the money to pay for the surgeon Is there a surgeon that would do it for free I mean How can we get this done Because this is ridiculous

Somebody and this is happening over and over and over again And by taking care of her maybe it would make headlines and people would see, wow, that's insane. I don't want that kind of health care. Because everybody's like, you know, Canada. Canada is on fire. The Canadian citizens are on absolute fire right now. And there's not a fireman or a doctor that will put you out or give you a band-aid. It's bad what's happening up in Canada. And people aren't paying attention to it. Yeah. Put that out on my, would you tweet something for me? There's got to be. be a way that we can

I don't know. Yeah, let me see. If we can get a doctor down here. Oh, yeah. I mean, look, I mean, we'll figure out a way to pay for it. Yeah. You know, this is, there's no reason this woman should be tortured into suicide. That is not something that should occur. You know, in it, in one of the wealthiest countries in the world, like this can be solved, you know, assuming, you know, maybe because of the attention to this, the Canada's going to go, oh, what are you talking about? No, come on over. We'll get the surgery done. They may, then they might. They might bail out, bail it out.

Let's put the pressure on. Let's put the pressure on it. There's got to be a way. Could you post this for me, Stu? Can you write something up and have it posted? Yep, we'll get to it. Got to help her. Got to help her.

By the way, it's never good when you consolidate power. It's never good. And what is going on now with this Netflix, Warner Brothers, Paramount stuff? I don't care if Larry Ellison is a conservative or not. No one should have that much. power. I did a show, gosh, four years ago. I don't even remember what I did. We looked it up. In the 1980s, 90% of American media was owned by over 50 companies. 40 years later, 90% of the media is watched and controlled by six companies. National Amusements, the Redstone Family Control,

CBS, CMT, MTV, Nickelodeon, gaming, and internet, Simon and Schuster books, that's all one. Disney, ABC, ESPN, History Channel, Marvel's Star Wars, video games, and print, Time Warner, Control CNN, Warner Brothers, HBO Turner, video games, internet, and print media like time, Comcast, MSNBC, NBC, CNBC, Telemundo, and the internet, News Corp, Fox, National Geographic, ton of others. Sony with a ton of movies, music and more. The big six, they're valued at nearly $500 billion. Now, this is something I put together five years ago, so I don't even know. This is

probably not even valid even today. And now we're talking about Netflix, Warner Brothers, Paramount into all of these one giant corporation. It's wrong. It's wrong. We can't keep putting all, everything into the hands of just a few. It's what's killing us. We've got to spread this around. We can't, the government can not okay mergers like this. They're big enough. You know, what happened when, um,

uh, the banks went under, or almost went under in 08? What did they say the problem was? they said the banks are too big to fail, too big to fail, because they were providing all of the services everybody needs all the time and there's only a handful of them. So if they fall, then everything falls, right? That was the problem. So what did we do to fix it? We made them bigger. we let them merge with other banks and gobble up other things and started taking on the local banks. And so now your banks that were too big to fail are now even bigger and their failure would be even worse. What is wrong with us?

Seriously, we're not this stupid. We're not this stupid. I think we're just this comfortable. We just think that, you know, the experts have a plan. No, the experts don't have a plan. Their plan is stupid. Their plan is to make it bigger. Every time it fails, make it bigger.

Push it up. Make it more global. No. Haven't you seen what the entire world is like? The entire world is over leveraged. The entire world is on the edge. The entire world is being redesigned. So what do we do?

We don't allow them to make things bigger. We need to start taking more. individual and local control of things. They're making it bigger, which will make the problem bigger, and make the problem so big, you won't be able to do anything about it because all the experts, all of the heads, there'll be six of them, and they'll all be sitting in one room, and they'll all be making the decisions.

And with them making those decisions will be all the heads of all of the countries around the world, that you're not going to have a say in any of, of that. They're already trying to do it with the W.E.F. But if the Supreme Court says, no, experts matter and the president can't fire them, you will not have any control over anything. We're at this place where we can back out, we can turn around, we can do it. It's not too late, but the hour is growing very late. I don't know about you. I don't like being this up to the edge. You know what I mean? I'd rather have lots of breathing room between me and the edge of the cliff, but we don't have that anymore. Everything has to be done right and we have to pay attention.

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To try to put it into perspective and, and help you, assuming that your goal is the same as mine is save the Republic, right? I don't want to fall into any kind of fascism or communism. I want the Republic as it was detailed in our founding document. documents. I want our mission statement to remain the same that all men are created equal. I want to be the lighthouse where free people or people who want to be free, who understand what that means. But I don't think we even understand what freedom means anymore. I did a monologue on that yesterday. But I don't, I don't, I think everybody just thinks, oh yeah, you're over in Europe, you're free. No, no,

you're not, not like you are here. But we're eroding so much of, of what, makes us free. We're eroding all of these things. Um, you know, the First Amendment, freedom of speech. There are so many people now that, that, that are now saying that they don't think freedom of speech is all that important because if it offends them or if it hurts, then, then it's, it's wrong. It's bad. You don't, you don't understand. And the other thing we have going against us is that we're not looking at. is that we have people that are trying to divide us inside and outside of our own country. And I want to talk about that and show you the seven steps on how to take a country apart

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We're just a few, what, about a week, two weeks away from Christmas. It's the night. did some Christmas shopping yesterday. It was absolutely agonizing. But hey, but always fun, right? This brings the Christmas cheer, right? Just right directly home to you. There's important stuff we have to talk about,

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That's T the number two T.org. So, 2027 will be my 50th year in broadcast. And I have learned so much in these 50 years. And everything I learn, I feel like, I wish somebody would have told me that earlier. Because this business in particular, mentors don't exist. Everybody is, I had a mentor when I was 16 years old, 15 years old.

and his name was Michael O'Shea and he was unbelievable. He was one of the leaders of this industry for a very long time. And he told me that he gave me this responsibility. He said, I mentored you for several years. Now it's your turn to mentor other people. Because no, but everybody is so selfish and everybody's protecting their own fiefdom. And we all try to figure, it's the same with you. we all try to figure out what is going on in our world and our life and our families with our children

and it's becoming so complex now. You know, it's not Little House on the Prairie anymore. The problems are just enormous and none of us seem to know how to deal with them. And, you know, I wish somebody would have told me a long time ago that we're not being lied to anymore. The American people are being played. And there is a huge difference. we were being lied to for a while, and a lie will fool you once, but being played turns you into a tool in somebody else's hands again and again and again.

And the truth on this that is just heartbreaking, and I don't know every day I get up and I think, how can I serve the audience? How can I make your life easier? How can I help you understand what's going on so we can save the Republic together? the American right, conservatives, Christians, good people are being turned right now into weapons against one another. And that's not because they're stupid or we're stupid. It's because the tools being used against them were designed to work on absolutely any human being. And you have to understand those tools.

And we have to understand not to divide, not to shame, but so we can, finally say, not me, not anymore, I'm not, I'm not playing that game anymore. So today I'd like to spend some time just to walk you through what is happening and how to break the spell before the Republic breaks with it. Because there's several things that are happening. So let me give you tool number one. Identity panic. This is, this is one way on how we're being used and played and set against each other.

You're in danger, react now, think later. Just do it right now. Every day, every minute of every day, there is a headline crafted not to inform you, but to set your lizard brain on fire. That ancient part of all of us that just screams, you know, fight or die, fight or die. How many times do you look at a story and go, I am so outraged? And you pass it on to somebody else because you were like, you're going to be so outraged by that. I find myself doing that all the time.

that's a problem because once we are outraged once we react emotionally the manipulator already owns you because panic overrides principle so you there are going to be stories that you are outraged by but you have to ask yourself when you read them who benefits from me being outraged by this who benefits from keeping America in a permanent state of alarm because we are. That's why we're so exhausted. That's why so many people are just like, I'm not listening to the news anymore. And it's not you, it's not your neighbor, it's not the country. It's those who gain power when you lose clarity. Who is gaining power when we just are surrounded by hating each other? Okay. The second tool used to manipulate you is, is

black and white, heroes and villains. Okay. Now listen to this carefully. This one man will save us. This one man will destroy us. Okay. That's wrong. When a movement forgets its principles and attaches itself to a personality, this one man can save us, it becomes very, very fragile and very predictable. Okay?

The founders knew this. It's fragile because if that one man goes wrong, if that one man dies, if something happens then it's over, then it's over. If that one man doesn't do what the mob says it should do, then that man has sold out and you've got nothing left. This is why Washington refused to be the king, okay? He refused a crown. He understood that the moment of people start looking for a savior in human form, they stop

looking for virtue in themselves. They don't have to be virtuous because that guy will be virtuous for me. If you want to control a group, you give him somebody to worship and somebody to hate. Then tie their identity to those puppet strings. Here's tool three. False choices. The false choice is you're either with us or. you're against it.

This is the favorite tactic of tyrants and propagandists because it destroys all nuance. All of it. It destroys conversation. It destroys coalitions. How many times are you hearing this right now? Oh,

I've listened to them forever, but they don't agree with me on this. They've sold out. Okay? That turns us into warring tribes and each tribe is convinced that the other is a traitor. Listen carefully, when someone tells you there are only two choices, they're hiding the third and the third is usually the truth. Things that happen, America was built on debate and complexity and conscience. Those

things are big and broad and we disagree on some of those things. So, how can we always agree on everything or you're a traitor? It doesn't. That's a false binary. And we're being pushed into this. You know it. We've talked about it. I've talked to so many people I read what people are saying online. It's it's it's crazy talk. It's crazy talk that if I don't believe everything that you believe, I'm now your enemy or your mine. You're not my enemy. disagree. And we can work things out if we talk to each other. But if you're screaming that I've sold out, or if I'm screaming that you're now a puppet, you know, doing the work of somebody because you've been paid off, well, what do we have to talk about? Answer, nothing. Tool number four,

outrage overload. If everything is urgent, which doesn't it feel like everything is, right? I look at the stories that we sent out to you every day. We try to give you all the news that is important and some of the news that is over the horizon that will be important. And all of it feels like it's so urgent. But if everything is urgent, then nothing is important. We're living in a constant scandal, news alerts, influencer clips, social media, flame wars. they're happening all the time. It's a fire hose that's not putting things out. It's pouring gasoline on the flames.

And it's meant to keep you exhausted. Where you out? Why? Because if you're tired, a tired public is an obedient public. You just give up. And an angry public is a predictable public. if your emotions are constantly inflamed, your discernment is constantly offline.

That's not an accident. It's a strategy. And unfortunately, these things are now algorithmic. Tool 5, algorithmic radicalization. What happens with these algorithms? What are they doing to us? They feed us the most extreme version of what it is. already believe.

Your phone is not showing you the world. I don't know. It's shaping you. It's not showing you anything. It's shaping you. If you click on something mildly upsetting, it's going to show you something more upsetting next. And it does it because it doesn't hate you,

but because anger pays better than truth. You're engaged longer. Now, we can blame this on the social, media companies and there's a lot of blame to be had there. But thank God, X has finally done something where you're starting to see where these accounts are coming from. Foreign adversaries are exploiting this and we all know this, but nobody thinks it's happening to them. They think that their guy, their thing is is not being pushed by a foreign, you know, country, an adversary. they think that their stuff is all organic.

And most likely it's not, especially if it is an extreme. Because political operatives that want to destroy the republic are exploiting this. Bad actors are exploiting this. And in the end, you wake up believing that your next door neighbor or somebody you've known for 20 years is somehow your enemy. That's not politics. That's programming. Tool number six, emotional hijacking. Your feelings are real, but the narrative attached to them may not be real.

Understand? There's stuff that's going on right now that your emotions are absolutely right. You have a right to be pissed off. But is the narrative that has caused that, the narrative that is feeding that, is that real? Manipulators know they don't have to win the argument. All they have to do is overwhelm your heart and your feelings. If they can make you mad enough, scared enough, grieved enough, they can move you anywhere on the chessboard they want.

This is why they say, share this immediately. Don't question. Don't wait. Don't think. Share it immediately, immediately. Because the moment you pause, the spell breaks. the moment you pause and you kind of we're like goldfish man we just kind of go on to something else tool seven is probably the worst out of all of them and that is spiritual confusion

if you can replace faith with faction replace god with politics if you want to break the church you don't burn the church you counterfeit it you inject politics into the pulpits. You make Christians suspicious of other Christians. You turn disagreement into apostasy. You make the kingdom of man more important than the kingdom of God. And once the church is confused and divided and partisan, it cannot any longer see clearly and it can't lead. And the Republic loses the conscience that once kept it standing upright. So there's a way to break all of this. And I'll give that to you here in just a second. First, let me tell you about our sponsor. Patriot Mobile in a world where corporations are making loud ideological choices with your dollars,

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So how do we break the spell? We have to be, and I'm trying to do this, and I'm not going. at it. I mean, I am emotional just like you are. I'm surrounded by this stuff all day long, all day long, and I lose my way. I lose my temper so easily and I've got to stop that. What we have to do is when you feel pushed, when you start to have fear or anger or confusion on things, ask yourself a few things. One, Has this already been solved? Is there a universal principle? Is there a universal truth that has been known forever that has solved this? I don't need to look for anything new if there's a universal truth. I just have to return to that one.

Second one, who benefits from my fear or my anger or my confusion? If the answer is a foreign government, a political operation, a media company, a social company, a social platform, a personality seeking power, then you may not be consuming information. You're being consumed by it. A nation as strong and as old as ours can survive mistakes. But we're not, I don't know if we're making mistakes anymore. the the republic can't survive manipulated citizens

and I'm not sure if anybody is really making honest mistakes I think they just don't know they're being manipulated America has never it's never been a problem when we disagree with each other

we don't fall when we disagree it falls when people stop being able to tell who's manipulating them and why. It falls when you're no longer allowed to speak the truth or say, I disagree with you on this. When you're suddenly an enemy because you say that and suspicions run deep, and all of a sudden you are as bad as any foreign enemy. So today I want to leave you with this. Here's the truth.

You are not the problem. You are the target. And if we can all stop being the target and learn to see the trap, we save the republic. My job is not to tell you what to think. My job is to show the machinery behind the curtain so you can think for yourself again. Because free people who can think clearly are the one thing that tyrants and propagandists and foreign adversaries can never defeat. This is Glenn Beck.

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Jasmine Crockett running for Senate. Yes. I don't think there's anything I could have gotten you for Christmas. You're welcome, Stu. Thank you. You're welcome. It doesn't get any better than this, Glenn. You know, all the stuff that's going on is wrong in the world, but my girl is there to rescue all of us and entertain all of us on a day-to-day basis.

The rollout was exquisite everything I could have possibly hoped for. She's getting other candidates to drink. drop out of the race already. It is, you know, it is, I'm under, I'm opening presents under a Christmas tree every single morning. It is, it is. The top, have you seen her campaign video? Oh my God.

I love it. Okay. Her campaign video, the number one response on X is, this is the type of campaign video that only a low IQ person would approve of. Here's a bit of her. Please. Here's her video. There are a lot of people that said, you got to stay in the house.

We need our voice. We need you there. And I understand. But what we need is for me to have a bigger voice. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So that's her introducing yesterday.

Yeah. Yeah. I think we do also have a clip, a clip two of the actual ad. And it's, I, I struggle with this. for everyone listening on the radio. And it's, you know, it's my favorite medium. But at certain times that you do need to see the visuals and associated with this. Can you read the text?

Mike screens are so small, I can't see him. Yeah, sure. Let's play. The text as it goes by. Go ahead. How about this new one they have? Their new star, Crockett. How about her?

She's the new star of the Democrat Party, Jasmine Carkett. They're in big trouble. But you have this woman Crockett. She's a very low IQ person. I watched her speak the other day. She's definitely a low IQ person. Crocket. Oh, man, oh, man.

She's a very low IQ person. Wow. Somebody said the other day, she's one of the leaders of the party. I said, you've got to be kidding. Now they're going to rely on Crocket. Crocket's going to bring her back. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God.

I love it. I can't even describe. So you didn't want to interrupt President Trump, but she's just in profile standing there and listening. And then she turns and she looks at the camera and she's listening. And then she folds her arms like, I'm not going anywhere. And then she smiles.

It's actually, actually for what she's trying to appeal to, probably pretty smart, making herself the number one target of Donald Trump. That will do well. Why I love her so much because everything, every stupid thing she does is perfectly incentivized by the Democrat party. Like they, you know, you can be a Democrat. You can be slaving away, working on health care policy, trying to turn the world around from a zero point nine temperature rise in a century, all the important things they really care about over there.

Right. Right, sure. And you will never get invited on a show. You will never sit across from Stephen Colbert. You will not have Charlemagne the gods speaking your praises on every appearance when he's talking about the Democratic Party. And you know what? You know who gets that? It's her.

Her with absolutely the IQ of a bagel. She will go out there and she will appear on every one. one of these shows and in each one of them she will prove once and again that she knows nothing about what she's talking about and she will say five impossibly stupid things and then she will get off the air and answer the next text for her next booking and it is utterly perfect she is the perfect encapsulation of the modern democrat party and i love every second of it she's so entertaining. She gives us things to talk about and to laugh about. She brings joy into my life on a daily basis. And I love her. I want to apologize for the bagel comment. We don't mean to offend Einstein, his bagels, or any of the everything bagels with that comparison.

Here's her tax plan. Can we go, can we go to cut 13? This is this is Crocett's tax plan. Just this past week I saw, I don't remember which celebrity, but it was actually a celebrity, and I was like, I don't know that that's not necessarily a bad idea. But I'd have to think through it a lot. One of the things that they propose is black folk not have to pay taxes for a certain amount of time. Because then again, that puts money back in your pocket. But at the same time, it may not be as objectionable to some people about actually giving out dollars. But obviously, then you start dealing with the different tax brackets and things like that.

And that's one of the reasons that, you know, we argue the reparations make sense because so many black folk, not only do you owe for the labor that was stolen and killed and all the other things, right? But the fact is like we end up being so far behind, right? And so it's like how do you bring forth people? Exactly. And so it's like if you do the no tax thing for people that are already, say, struggling and aren't really paying taxes in the first place, it doesn't. They're really, exactly. They may want those. Yeah.

Exactly. I mean, this is a lunatic. I can't even, there's no way to state how much I love this person. Like the fact that she would present that in a campaign in Texas as a legitimate idea that just black people stop paying taxes, it's, if you put it on a sketch comedy show, like people would die laughing at it. And she's presenting it as a serious issue and being rewarded from the person she's interviewing who's nodding the entire time as if that's constitutional in any way or possible in any way. Or it would be appealing to Texas voters in any way.

I, oh, gosh, she's the best. So, Stu, she's being interviewed by somebody who doesn't understand that when she talks, she has to move the microphone back towards her mouth. I mean, so it's not. Glenn, give her a bunch of. I'm surprised she wasn't holding it upside down. I wouldn't have been surprised if the entire interview was done with it not plugged in. It's like the fact that you could hear her at all is a miracle. She's like, oh, yes, I absolutely think that only tax rates by race has just been proposed in a state like Texas, a red state, you know, that occasionally can produce.

a relatively close race, but here's the wonderful thing. Not with her. Not with her in the race. I don't know who's going to win the primary and the Republican side. I have preferences there. But what I will say is it seems to me legitimately impossible that a person with these sorts of crazy ideas could possibly win a state like Texas. Look at what happened in Canada. When Donald Trump interjects himself into something.

it doesn't matter i mean Canada the Canadians they had that thing sewn up the conservatives are going to win that's true and then he said 50 seconds you know you need to be a 51st state he was joking then he just kept joking and they didn't take it as a joke people hate him so much that that's why her that's why her spot her commercial is so effective i think so brilliant she doesn't talk she doesn't say anything. There's no policy. There's nothing. It's just her being a strong black woman against Donald Trump. Who is calling her. That's in many places. Yes. That's all it's required. Many places that is all that was required. One of those places is not Texas. And that's, I think, the issue here. In Canada, your baseline is they hate Donald Trump. And it's, you know, probably 70, 75 percent of Canadians

have a negative view of Donald Trump. And when, you know, when he's not in the race, the people who are maybe left leaning, but would consider conservatives in Canada if the possibility presents itself that things are going so poorly that they want to switch from a true dough, you know, and that sort of arrangement. That is something where Donald Trump steps in and kind of like slaps the Democrat back into their world where they're like, wait a minute, no, I hate him. And if he likes the conservative, I don't want that person. That's true. very effective in Canada.

And Texas does not have the same kind of problems that like New York has. You're not, you don't have the same. Texas is growing jobs. People are moving in. Housing is expensive, etc. But why is housing expensive?

Not Donald Trump. It's not the economy. It's that California has moved to Texas. Same thing with Florida. Why is it so expensive? Because New York has given up on New York and is moving to Florida. Yeah. So the jobs are being created.

And so maybe, maybe that will hopefully that will go the way because otherwise I'm going to have to fire you Stu what do you mean because you're bringing her you're bringing her to the table if she wins and I don't think she's going to no one's ever going to talk to me again oh I'm going to hate your yes I and it will be legitimate I will say it I do worry because I think the Democrats had a very similar take on Donald Trump in 2015 so I will say I am very nervous about my take here but I'm being honest with you. This is just the inner joy shining through. That's all it is. All right. Let me tell you about Z Factor. A good night's sleep is one of the most underrated

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investigation goes. Something happens and police and federal officials get everybody into a room and they say, all right, what do we know? What evidence do we have? What do we know about what just happened? Is there anything that this evidence is saying it leads to or what could, what should we be looking at? Is there anything that is off the beaten path that we should look at. For instance, an inside job for an influence. Is there anything like that? Then, after that conversation, you make a list of all those things and you say, okay, here's the plan. I want you, you, you, you, and you look at that. I want you, you, you and you to look at that. I want you to go out, everybody, go out, divide this list up, bring back what you can. If somebody has some evidence that leads

us to believe anything these are correct, get it to me right away. We'll then direct our resources, and focus them some more. As the investigations move, you find evidence and some ideas are scratched off. Other ideas are pursued until you have the person. Let me talk to you about Charlie Kirk. When Charlie Kirk died within hours, I received a phone call. And I and my team were briefed that I, Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly, were possibly on a foreign terrorist hit list and that we might be targets and that we should take all precautions until they could rule this out. Okay. That's what happened. We were targets possibly of a foreign hit list. Take the precautions until we can rule that out. We understood that. I called Megan Kelly

immediately. I shared with her. We started my security team was working with with her to make sure that she was secure. Tucker was secure. Everybody is fine. And they ruled that out. Within a couple of days, they ruled that out about three days later. Okay. I don't think there was a conspiracy. I think they were being wise and saying there might be something going on until we can rule it out. You guys need to stay safe so we don't have another one of these. Got it. I appreciate them thinking of that. I appreciate them exploring that option. But once you have that on and you're pursuing that,

and you have a team pursuing that, when you find that that's not true, you scratch it off. Once it's scratched off, normal people understand that's an investigation. That's how it works. But there's all of these conspiracies now that were on the list of things to check

that once they were disproven and checked off and like, okay, that's not a happening. It's not that. Conspiracy people are keeping those things on the list and saying, why didn't they do that? See, they knew, they knew, but they're hiding it. No. No, that's not the way it works. That's not the way it works. And here's what I'm really afraid of. And Andy No has just written a column that is absolutely dead on. Conspiracy theories might sabotage justice for Charlie Kirk. This is the thing I worry about. Are we going to have justice? Have we tainted the jury pool so much that you're not going to get anybody to believe anything anymore? Andy No,

joins me now. Andy, thank you so much for coming on. My pleasure. Things for having me on. So what caused you to write this? My frustration with how I'll just be direct. I think the podcasting space has been praised a lot in recent years because it's opened up discussions for people who have been shut out, ideas that have been shut out. But I think we're now seeing the dark side that can come with that when kind of anything can go and that clickbait and perhaps financial motives may be at the forefront of that. minds of some unethical podcasters. And in the case of the Charlie Kirk assassination, he was somebody I knew personally, I know you knew him. And so it disturbed me to see conspiracy theories go so viral

and for people to treat it as if it was just like, like this is okay to be a side show just to have the discussions when there's an open investigation and the conspiracy theories that are being propagated are meant to not just ask questions. This isn't just about asking questions. It's about actually planting seeds of doubt into people's minds about the integrity of the entire investigation, even though they know very little about it. And what's worse is impugning the reputations of people that, Charlie loved clearly with suggestions in innuendos of misconduct or even worse. So I had to speak out. I couldn't I could no longer sit back and you know I spent my entire

journalism career writing about the violence of the far left and Antifa and I saw that all of the focus that had been on that temporarily after Charlie's murder was Nobody was discussing that anymore. And it's a real threat. And so the threat of left-wing violence had been completely diverted into nonsense. I really have to emphasize the nonsense. All these threads that people think they're polling have led to nothing. And instead of realizing that they're wrong, they double down and say that lack of evidence is evidence for something.

else. And so, like, this can't continue, you know, and the danger of it really is, it may be really difficult in a year's time or years time to find a jury pool that's not tainted by all of these conspiracy theories and lies that have been propagated now for months. And you're seeing, you're seeing a lot of this. this, you know, ex Elon Musk, I tell you, I don't know if we'd have a country today if it wasn't for what Elon Musk has done to Twitter, but, you know, he started saying, this is where this, this is where this is coming from. This, this is a bot and it's out of Russia or wherever. And so you're starting to see the foreign influence. But a lot of these conspiracy theories, they are being

hyped up by bots and by foreign actors that do not wish us well. And, it doesn't seem like what what's happening is like you i am not afraid of questions i i embrace questions we should ask honest honest questions um uh and we should not be uh afraid to ask honest questions the the the problem is is we're as you said we're not just asking questions now we are now dividing ourselves if you don't agree with the question or the answer that they want to provide for that question, then you somehow or another are an enemy that has sold out. That's, that's extraordinarily dangerous and doesn't seem to be coming from any place good. I mean, it, it screams for an actor or somebody who wants to destroy America and the Republic. Does it

Yes, I've been receiving a lot of hate messages since publishing my writing. I've been so-called compromise that I'm being paid to say these narratives. And I don't know, this is poison that's been put into the minds of the right, like the audiences of the podcast right. And it's, you can see how it's eating away at this movement is breaking apart. this brief moment of unity we had after we came together in unity after the assassination. And if you give me a moment, I would like to address sort of some of the biggest misconceptions I see about the investigation.

So one, a lot of people think that there's some evidence of a federal conspiracy because a Utah County judge had issued a gag order. If you read the gag order, and by the way, this is not a federal case, it's being handled by the state of Utah prosecutors in Utah County, by the way. So all this focus on feds, this, feds, that people are misinformed. The judge, Judge Tony Graff, had issued a gag order on witnesses who had been identified in the case. investigators, counsel obviously, from making extrajudicial statements, because he wants to keep control of the case from it turning into a whole circus. Like, do people not remember what happened in the case of Derek Chauvin, the officer in Minneapolis who was accused of killing

George Floyd? Like, there was no gag order on that. And that was a complete, I do not think that that trial was fair given that level of media saturation and how out of hand it got. And so the judge was really wise to put this gag order on. You can't have investigators or potential witnesses going out to media and making a whole bunch of comments that would bias one party or the other in an ongoing case. Another misconception is people are saying, why aren't the SBI releasing more information? Why haven't they since September? Well, a suspect was in custody within less than 48 hours of the murder, and it's in the pre-trial phase now. And the process leading up to the trial, and the trial itself is sacred.

And I think our civic education in the United States has really failed the public. They don't seem to understand that. They think that, you know, the evidence should be released as soon as it comes out. Everything and anything can come out. Like, no. Like, investigators don't release that because this type of stuff goes to the accused side. And then, of course, to the prosecutors. And you keep that evidence preserved so that it's not going to push the public

in one way or the other to be biased in any particular way. And so there's just the ignorance, I would say, about how criminal investigations and the criminal justice system works in the US. And there are podcasters who are really exploiting that and thinking that there's something there when there's nothing for a number of accusations that they've lobbied. Andy, you're not for, I mean, I hope that this trial, when it comes to, you is put on television. I think the people have a right to see the trial.

We don't have a right to see everything leading up to the trial, but we do have a right to see the trial, like we did with O.J. Simpson, would you agree with that? I think given the public interest, the international interest in this case, that it's for the best for it to be reported, so that the public can see. Otherwise, only a very, very small number of people

who can make it physically inside the courtroom. And I don't think that that would be for the interest of justice, in my opinion. No. And it wouldn't be healthy for the Republic. We must be transparent in everything we can be. But when it comes to the trial, that should be completely transparent because that is how our system works.

That's the, that's the very, verified information on both sides. And we should be able to judge that one way or another. And I personally think that's critical. And I hope that Utah is making the decision or will make the decision to make sure that that is seen by everybody. But I stand with you, Andy. I mean, I've heard so many things about me lately, about how I've just taking money from Jews, which is crazy. I wish I knew where all that money was going.

because, yeah, I'd like to spend it, especially around Christmas time. But it's amazing to me how I was on the list possibly for foreign, you know, if there was any foreign terrorists, except they're making the case that it was the foreign terrorists were actually Israel. Why would they kill somebody who they were supposedly paying? It makes no, I mean, it takes two seconds of logic and realize, okay, well, that was a theory. theory and that just didn't work out. That's not true. None of that is true. Andy, what do you think needs to be done from here? What do people like you, me, and others need to do? Podcasters, I think, have a responsibility to be ethical in their work. I mean, the reason why

new media, while there's been so much support for it and when it became a thing that emerged, is we saw the deficiencies in legacy media or mainstream media. And I just asked like, what's the point of independent or new media if the content that is being produced by those very powerful voices is slop and junk? Like this whole space exists because we want better content that is more informative, accurate and honest. But you're not calling for a ban of anyone, are you? No, I'm not. I'm calling for people to recognize that there's that responsibility really matters. And I'm concerned that those people who are fully independent, who are not accountable to any editors,

are not, do not center ethics at the forefront of their works. Like that really has to sort of exist as a personal, on a personal level and it's how I conduct my work I'm independent and I think older podcasters who are wiser have have experience knowledge about how the criminal justice system can work can hopefully try to inform the public about this is a really slow and long process and it's not going to be like a true crime new episode every week where here's the latest updates and people have been watching so much

that they have that expectation. I know. I know. Andy, that's why I had you on today because I wanted to make sure people heard this, because your article is spot on. Conspiracy theories might sabotage justice for Charlie Kirk. Andy Know is the journalist. He is also the author of Unmask Inside Antifa's Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy. It's a fantastic book.

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Isn't it amazing how this is why I think evil showed up. I mean, God showed up after the Charlie Kirk murder and an equal opposite reaction to God showing up. I think evil showed up. And it's amazing how we're not talking about the left. We're not talking about the, you know, the transgender markings on the bullets and the guns and everything else. We're not talking about this kid anymore. He's no, no, no, no. He's innocent.

It's the Jews that did it with Charlie Kirk's wife involved. I mean, it's obscene what is being said. And if we're not careful, we won't be able to have a jury that we'll be able to judge this thing. on the facts. And maybe that's the point all along. I don't know. Which would just cause us more distrust in our system. Yippie. Back in just a minute. This is Glenn Beck. Let's say you just want to do one simple thing. Get out of a chair, walk across the parking lot, play with the kids, and everything in your back, all your joints are like, I'm on overtime. I need overtime. It's a holiday. A lot of people that has just become life. And they don't even

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The first offering from Glenn AI and putting the Christ back in Christmas. Um, last week, was it last week I introduced you to George AI. Um, now what George AI is a proprietary AI system that has a giant electric fence around it. It has everything that the founders from our collection, it will grow from here, but from our collection, it has the writings, the documents, um, the journals, the books. that were written at the time, the books that they read that they said influenced them, the Federalist papers, all of this stuff, all in one proprietary AI system. And it can't go out and look for other things. It also must memorize everything. Unlike an AI that can hallucinate, they hallucinate because AI is very good at remembering the beginning and the ending, but that's not good at the middle.

And so it'll look at the beginning and the ending, it'll like, yeah. And it kind of went like that. No, it didn't go like that. Stop being lazy. But ours memorizes every word, word for word. And it can give you the words from the founders in their own language, which sounds really mechanical and reads. It's really hard to read.

Or it can, you know, dumb it down to my level or your level or your kids level. And it can speak at our level, but it cannot change their words. or their meaning. We police this like crazy, and we are not releasing it wide open to the public until we have lots of beta testing because we want to make sure we have caught everything because the last thing we want is anything that is,

is anybody's opinion except for theirs? You'd be able to put in a bill and say, is this constitutional? Where does this violate the founding principles? and it will tell you. You put in a story and say, what are the principles that we lost that are causing this? You can put in like we talked about today. There was a story about the case that is in front of the Supreme Court right now about, you know, having, you know, some sort of expert running, you know, the administration,

and the president and Congress can't fire them. well, I know the answer to this, but I asked George A.I. I put the story in and I said, what did the founders say about things like this? And I asked specifically about the Federalist papers. And it said, while it doesn't specifically talk about this, it does say X, Y, and Z. And as I explained earlier on the show, I mean, it might as well be explicit because it's talking about exactly the same thing. But that's what it does. Now, I released an, interview that I did with George. Okay. And it's so funny the reaction because Adam Kinsinger has just said, this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen and I was in Congress for 12 years.

Oh, well, Adam. Oh, okay. Well, I'm going to listen to you. Right wing watch, which I think is Soros funded. Oh, good. Glenn Beck has created an AI George Washington. You'll be shocked to learn that the AI George Washington created by Glenn Beck sounds exactly like what would happen if Glenn Beck built an AI, George Washington, sound exactly like Glenn Beck. Impossible. It's not speaking my words. It's only speaking their words.

It's impossible. It has no information about me at all. There is no, it is a firewall between Glenn AI and George A.I. There is a firewall. It has no outside information. It does not know who I am. It doesn't care who I am. It is only focused on their words.

let me play if we can can we play a little bit of what I what I played the actual George AI and I just want you to I want to ask yourself because CNN

in fact play the CNN clip CNN led with this last night um play that play that if you will the greatest danger to our republic lies not in foreign arms or political faction

but in the decay I just interrupt you for a second could you just dumb it down of just a little bit. Wow, that is Glenn Beck, interviewing an AI version of George Washington, if you couldn't tell, who's apparently ripped now wearing a tight t-shirt, and he echoes Beck's beliefs. So for tonight's new nightcap. Stop.

He echoes Beck's beliefs. So you cannot say that this is accurate because then you would have to say, I was right, that I am interpreting the founders in the correct way. So you have to say there's something wrong with this AI. You know nothing about it. There's something wrong with this AI. It can't be doing that. This is just echoing Beck's beliefs.

No, it's impossible for that to happen. But they're making this into, I mean, the tags on this are right-wing extremists, uh, George Washington extremism. play the actual George AI clip and tell me what's extremist about anything that he is saying here. George, we have programmed a lot of information and given you a lot of information on what's going on in today's America. Based on your writings and the writings of the rest of the founders, what is it that you feel is the biggest problem or where we should start to fix things? if I may speak plainly

my countryman the danger the greatest danger to our republic lies not in foreign arms or political faction but in the decay I just interrupt you for a second could you just dumb it down just a little bit okay I do have 29 points and they're all referenced to exactly

what we said in the past for this just speak in today's language okay okay I get it let me speak to Americans If I'm honest, America's biggest problem is in political or economic. It's all moral. You've drifted from the virtues that make liberty possible in the first place. Freedom.

To be free, you have to have discipline, you have to have faith, you have to have character. And if you don't have any of those things, laws, laws can't stop anything. They mean little. Government turns either weak or oppressive, own skeptic. of truth, you're reckless with debt, you're comfortable blaming instead of building anything. And in my time, we understood that self-governance begins with self-control. Do you even recognize what self-control is? Public virtue matters more than public opinion.

You keep electing these people expecting things to change, but you haven't changed. The fix is not going to be found in Washington, D.C. it's going to be found in every home, every school, every heart. You know, where are the citizens who value duty over comfort, principal over popularity? America was built to be a moral and self-governing nation. It's only that foundation that will still save her. Okay, so how is that?

Yes, it does sound like me. Yes, it does sound like me. You know why? Because I sound like the founders. That's why. I didn't, I wish I could say I made all this. this stuff up. I wish I could say I'm that brilliant that yep, uh, the constitution and the founding documents, they all sound like me once you dumb them down. No, no, I had to work

through them and I dumb them down so I could understand them. I've been saying him my whole life. And that's why he sounds like me, because I sound like him. But the thing is, it's being labeled as extremism that were supposed to be moral. we have to have discipline, faith, character. Is that extreme? That our laws won't mean anything because nothing can hold it together if we're not those things. Government will either become too weak or too oppressive. What do you disagree on that?

How do you disagree with that? Are we currently worried that we'll become too weak? Or are we currently worried that we're going to become oppressive? I mean, either way, that's extreme. because that's your view in the media that Donald Trump is becoming oppressive, right? That we're growing skeptical of truth. How does anyone in the media think that that's Glenn Beck or that's, you know, that's some extreme thing? Yeah, you know it.

You know we're skeptical of the truth. You're the ones telling it to us and you're the ones with a dying rating. So that's clearer. You can't admit that America, agree or disagree. America is skeptical of truth, that we're reckless with debt, that we will not, we point fingers to blame, we won't take any personal responsibility for anything. We won't self-govern. We have no self-control. That we look for opinion over virtue.

That the answer won't be found in D.C. And that nothing will change unless we change. Wow, that's so unbelievably extreme, isn't it? Let me tell you why there's this thing going around now. I mean, I've released three minutes of George AI. Three, three. Oh, wait. Wait until next year.

Wait until by this time next year. Wait until you see this thing open up full throttle. They are going to wet their pants. So they know, they know exactly what I'm doing. They know they must discredit it because they know the power of AI, because they've been using AI to lie to you, to manipulate you, to use algorithms to do all of that stuff. I'm not using any of those.

I'm not pushing this out, hoping that anybody will do anything with an algorithm. I want you to find it. I'm inviting you to ask him yourself. when you ask him, you can say, what are all the footnotes? Do you notice the part they cut out in CNN? He says, I have 26 points and they're all documented to what we said. Yeah, they had to cut that out because I'm providing that every time. Every time you'll be on George A.I.

Every time we give you, we'll show you the documents and where it comes from. They can't do that. They rely on opinion. George A.I. relies on documented fact. And I can't wait for you to be a part of it. Next year, January 5th, it'll make their eyes bleed. And that gives me, that's, you know, blood is red. Their eyes, you know, the white and the red is like a candy cane.

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