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Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) recently endorsed Joe Biden, but it sounded forced. Filling in for Glenn, Pat and Stu react to Pelosi’s lackluster endorsement and Biden’s low approval rating. How have Biden’s many examples of overt racism gone so ignored by his base? Pat and Stu discuss the RNC taking a step back from the pro-life cause and whether there’s a political calculation involved. Pat and Stu continue discussing the importance of not wavering on the pro-life position while taking calls from the audience on the issue. After taking a call from a pro-choice listener, Stu breaks down some of the inconsistencies and dangers of the pro-choice ideology. Pat and Stu discuss the latest high-level Democrats and politicians who have weighed in on Biden’s nominee status, including actor George Clooney. Pat and Stu discuss the latest updates regarding Trump’s VP choice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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countertops from 2008. So we did upgrade that. We upgraded countertops, replaced carpeting where our kids had destroyed carpeting. And then that was it. That was it. That's it. That's it. Saved us, you know, a lot. A fortune.

And you wind up realizing you're only getting, if you get lucky, you get 70% of your money back when you do these things. Exactly. So they sometimes make sense, you know, a lot of times when you are going to live there and enjoy them for multiple years, right? But when you're just going to do it and then sell it and you might not have the same taste as the next person wanting to buy it. That's maybe the most critical part because they want their touches. They want their vision for the house. So let them have it. Yeah.

Let them do it. We got full asking price. So congratulations. That's awesome. And this just happened, right? Just happened. Wow. We sold the house in a week, which was nice. Really? Yeah. Because, I mean, you hear the market's tough. The interest rates are high. But you need a good realtor. That's the thing. So you've got the realtor, a realtor situation. Not to mention, you know, you have a little bit of an advantage doing this in Texas. That's true. Yeah. One of the fastest growing areas in the country. Yeah. And Dallas in particular, this area has been, you know, very hot for real estate. But there are other areas around the country where that's true. It's just it's easier in Texas probably to do this. So congratulations. I will say maybe we can get a real estate agent that Joe Biden trusts as he moves out of the White House come in January. Oh, I can't wait.

I will pay for the move. Really? Yes. If he moves out of the White House and I'll pay even more if he'll move out early because that would be awesome. But yeah, I'll do it. GoFund me page, whatever it takes to help him get, you know, the Mayflower truck in front of the, a 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. That is sweet.

Yeah. You're just a sweet gentleman. Just a nice guy, right? Yeah. A lot of people don't understand that. Partisan politics get in the way, not with Pat Gray. Not in this case. He will make sure he can show Biden gets out of that house, even if he wants to leave a little early.

Yes. You know? Yeah. We'll get him right back to Delaware. Wow. Yeah. That's great. We're this Corvette and, you know, is his ice cream parlors.

Is the vet parked at Rahoboth Beach or is it in Wilmington? That's what I don't know. beach. I think I could be wrong on that, but it's, wherever it is, he can go there. You know, enjoy it. It's been interesting to watch the reaction to the last couple of days where if you remember, right, and maybe I misunderstood this, because it's possible. Like, there's so much news going on. Sometimes you hear things and you don't fully get what's going on. My understanding was we did this show on Monday. And one of the first things we did on Monday was to read a letter from Joe Biden

where he very clearly indicated he was staying in the race. Right? That happened, right? That was a thing. We talked about it. That was a thing. Then we played audio. We didn't really get through a lot of it. We got through some audio from the Joe Scarborough experience on MSNBC where the, if I remember right, the whole tone of that

was Joe Biden saying, hey, I'm in this race, I'm not going anywhere. I'm the nominee. I won the primary. the debate you're all complaining about, I was on stage for it because I was the nominee. That's why, so it's my nomination. I'm staying, no more questions about it. Right, that was.

Yeah, he made it pretty clear. Right. Yeah. I don't know if Nancy Pelosi heard the show on Monday, but I hate to break this to you. Because I know, I feel like she listens to most of our shows. Uh-huh. But I don't think she tuned in on Monday at all or Tuesday

or any show since the debate. Huh. Because she seems to be very confused as to what's going on in this new clip from MSNBC. It's Nancy Pelosi, and she's being asked about how Joe Biden and whether he's going to stay in the race. And she has a different understanding of this situation than I do. Does he have your support to be the head of the Democrat?

As long as the president had the president, it's up to the president to suicide if he is going to run. We're all encouraging him to make that decision because time is running. short. The, I think, overwhelming support of the caucus, it's not for me to say, I'm not the head of the caucus anymore, but he's beloved. He is respected. And people want him to make that decision. He has said, he has made the decision. He has said firmly this week, he is going to run. Do you want him to run? I want him to do whatever he decides to do. And that's the way it is. Whatever he decides, going. Wow. That is not a ringing endorsement from Nancy Pelosi. It's also a lot of words that don't

exist, like, suicide. I don't know what society is. At some point, Joe Biden needs to secide. They make fun of Biden for his speech issues. She's got some. She's got them too. I mean, she's getting much worse too. I mean, this is like. Sounds like she's drunk most of the time. Yeah. And I think it's just. I don't know. Is it age or is it, is it alcohol? I mean, it's a morning. Yeah, actually, I'm not sure. I'm not sure either. I do, you know, it's weird because we've been watching these same figures the entire time we've been doing talk radio, right?

Like the whole time, it's been the same people basically in charge. I feel like we're standing, you know, and just out in the park watching Mount Rushmore sort of just melt. Like, it's really weird. Like, all these big figures, they just get worse and worse and worse every time you see them. You know, Mitch McConnell. Nancy Pelosi, obviously Joe Biden, and so many more.

And they don't leave office. They stay in their jobs. They just get, it's like if, you know, Michael Jordan came back today. And we had to watch him play. I mean, he probably still average 14 a game, but it would be tough. I mean, you had Michael Jordan. He comes back. He wins all these championships.

And then he came, remember he came back with the Wizards for a couple of years? Yeah. And he was still pretty freaking good. Yeah, he was. He's like 40 years old. He's still scoring 20 points a game. But like you could tell, there's a big drop off. If he, you know, it just seems like, what if he just kept playing until he was 80?

I mean, that's what it's like watching these people. It is. They can't do the basic things that they used to do. Joe Biden was never, obviously, a great politician. He has accomplished very little in his life. This is obvious to anyone who isn't a Democrat begging him to get out right now. Right now, the way to get him to get out of the race is to say, You've been incredible.

This presidency has been incredible. This three and a half years has been the most amazing three and a half years of any presidency of all time. You are so great, Joe. Get out. I understand that approach. You're playing up to his ego. You're trying to persuade him. But we should draw the line here, Pat.

This is not true. Joe Biden. The three years of incredible presidency is not true? Yeah. It's not true. Huh. Joe Biden has not been a good president at all. He's been a very bad president.

Very bad. A piece of evidence to support this would be the fact that he had a 36% approval rating before the debate. Yeah. No president. To my knowledge, give me a call. Correct me if I'm wrong. But no president in recent history has been able to recover from approval ratings like this and win the presidency. None.

Let me give you the list of the names. I'm done. it doesn't happen it doesn't work give me that list again sure right here I'm gonna give you one more time here it comes some of the name done okay

wow it's it's an extent and that's I believe that was the extended list the extended list okay I mean George W. Bush

did come back from a slight you know polling issue in this time now of course George W. Bush was not in his 80s when he did such a thing. But he, it wasn't the mid-50s, if I remember correctly. He was, you know, and his prime as a politician. And he was not down as much and it was not dealing with the types of things that Joe Biden is dealing with. I mean, it's possible to come back. It doesn't mean that this

election is decided. In fact, it's, I would argue, uncomfortably close. I mean, considering what we saw yesterday, what we didn't see as aftermath of that debate was a massive polling collapse for Democrats. You know, we didn't see that. We didn't see an 8.9 point drop. We saw, I don't know, three point movement, the normal movement of a blowout debate. That to me was worse than a blowout debate. And there was certainly a part of me hoping that it would be even larger.

It might wind up being that way. We don't know yet. But politicians, presidents, running for re-election that want to run for re-election and have a 36% approval rating don't win re-election. That's just the way this. typically works. It's not impossible. Donald Trump obviously brings some unique things to the table in an election. We've talked many, many years about Trump derangement syndrome where people, I mean, to define that generally, we're talking about irrational hatred for Donald Trump no

matter what. So when you have someone who has a syndrome named after him, there's a lot of people who just will vote against him no matter what, even if his opponent is, coherent. And so it's going to make it to be a close election no matter what, I think. I don't think you're going to get even a Barack Obama John McCain type of result, which was, I think we talked about it earlier, 54, 45, I think was

the number on that, if I'm remembering right, it was eight or nine points. That's about as big a blowout as you can possibly come up with in today's politics, with people polarize the way they are. I don't think you're going to see that here. You should. It's really hard to imagine in

this day and age blowouts. like we saw with Ronald Reagan, you know, who won 49 states. Yeah. I can't, can you imagine that happening today? No. I mean, Ronald Reagan, 49 state, including California, which and New York, which you'd never see happen today. You'd never see that happen.

So, yeah, it's always going to be close. And it is too close for comfort even now, even, you know, a couple of weeks after the debate now. It's two weeks on, like tomorrow already, right? It's, man, that's gone by fast. All right, AAA 727, BECK, more coming up in one minute. This month, we've been celebrating the birth of our nation and remembering the heroes who fought for our freedoms.

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Who's her vice president going to be? You know, the rumor I'm hearing is Gretchen Whitmer. You imagine two women on the ticket? I mean, it was not that long ago where there was one woman on the ticket. and that was, that didn't even happen. To have two women on the ticket, we're moving down this path pretty fast now. Is Geraldine Ferraro available? I mean, I don't know if she could step up. I just feel uncomfortable.

I don't, again, is the president alive? So, I mean, I don't know that she's any less alive than Biden. That's a good point. I don't buy Whitmer with, with, Kamala. I don't think that would be the choice. I mean, you could, I could definitely see Newsom as a, yeah, I could see a, someone like a, I mean, you think of, although that's California. So that would be an issue, wouldn't it? Yeah, because she's California. Yeah, yeah. Again, those are always, those problems are real but solvable. Yeah. You can always get around them, but that would be an interesting one. You know, someone like a, you would probably want to go, what about a Josh Shapiro from, from Pennsylvania? I think that would be a real possibility. Yeah. He's an up-and-coming star. He's from the region.

They need to win. They need Pennsylvania pretty desperately. Yeah. He'd be a guy, I think, would be especially not needing to step into the top of the ticket, but stepping into that secondary role, I think would be a serious consideration. A lot of this has to do, too, with what is Kamala's relationship with these people? I mean, I have no idea. If you go by the Barack Obama rule, which is don't, the Barack Obama rule, if you go back

can read, you know, his heavily reported biographies is basically like America is a bunch of racists. They can't take more than one exotic candidate on a ticket. This is why you had Joe Biden on the ticket. He specifically picked him because he was old and white. That's not like me speculating. This has been heavily reported. He picked him because he thought the American people couldn't deal with another person of color on the ticket. They're too racist. They couldn't deal with another younger person on the ticket. They were too, they were, you know.

So he needed a racist on the ticket. You're saying Joe Biden needed a racist on the ticket. What evidence do you have of Joe Biden being racist? There's, you know, this, but it's, you know, not, you're not hearing it. I'm not hearing it. No. But it's there. My understanding. Yeah, well, let's hear.

Let's, maybe you have. I mean, I might. Okay. Well, I might have. I mean, you got the first sort of mainstream American, right? Who is articulate and bright and bright and clean. Clean? Clean.

I mean, that's a storybook, man. Storybook. That doesn't happen in real life. Can you imagine a clean African American? What a storybook that would be. Yeah, right. Thank you, Joe Biden for bringing that. analysis to us because, I mean, can you imagine, we're talking also not about just a clean African-American,

which would be a storybook in and of itself, according to Joe, but also one that could speak. Not articulately. Yes. Sort of articulate? You have an articulate, clean. I mean, not totally articulate. Yeah, sort of articulate. That's like, that's another world.

Right. But it would be sort of articulate and clean, you're saying. And that's what I'm saying. You got to keep your storybooks believable, right? Like, it couldn't possibly happen. You got from storybook to sci-fi. Right. According to the book of Joe Biden, it couldn't possibly happen.

You'd have an actually articulate, clean, black man. But in this particular situation, you have a sort of articulate, clean black man. Now, is he sort of clean? Or is he fully clean and only sort of articulate? Well, he does say clean. He doesn't qualify that. He doesn't qualify clean. So I think he's talking about your, you're, you know,

He might have even taken a full shower. And by the way, we should point out, the only reason Joe Biden is president is because of the black vote. Somehow, he was able to survive that statement. Yeah, and many more. And many more. And you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump and you ain't black. Okay. He survived that.

And he went to James Clyburn and was like, please endorse me. And he did. And now, in his moment of stress, what is keeping him in this office? The congressional black caucus. It's incredible. It is incredible. This man has said more overtly racist things than anybody. Obviously, more than Donald Trump, who they all say is racist,

more than any presidential candidate going back to all, probably to LBJ. It's not even close. It's not even close. If, and you know what, LBJ's comments were in private. This guy's done it all publicly. It's true. We actually have the clips to play. Now, we know LBJ was a racist.

However, he was saying. those things not in front of the cameras. This is Joe Biden in front of cameras doing it. Yeah. Over and over and over again. That's how. In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.

I'm not joking. And he's not joking. He's actually being racist right there. He's not joking about it. No, he's serious about his racism. It's great. And you've got the one where he says that unlike, unlike a black people, Hispanics are diverse in their opinions. Oh, I remember that one.

Yeah. Like all blacks think alike. All blacks think alike. But Hispanics actually have differences in opinions. Like individual Hispanics might think of something different. Right. Unlike obviously blacks. I mean, that's what he said.

I mean, over and over and over, he's done this kind of stuff. Yeah. And yet he is champion, apparently, at the black community. It's fine. By the way, margin is a little bit off of my remembrance of this. It was 53-46 for Obama and John McCain. Only a seven-point margin. And I think that is still about as big as you can possibly get.

If you want to go back to the days back in the Ronald Reagan 59 Walter Mondale 41. So, I mean, this is a totally different world. Reagan B. Carter by nine. You know, Bill Clinton won by six, five and a half. And then he beat Bob Dole by about nine. And then since then, it's been close. Pretty much every single time. Even in blowout elections, there's only six or seven points.

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Is that true? There it is. incredible. It's just really incredible that he got away with that. It's Pat and Stu for Glenn today. AAA 727, BECK. I like this political story. From Politico, Trump's platform has changed the GOP's position on abortion. And it's not just abortion, but that's one of the big ones. And not everyone is happy. I would be included among not everyone. Really? Yeah, I would.

I don't appreciate the fact that the Republican Party has just adopted Trump's newfound liberality, I guess, on abortion. How can you do that? Either. Either you believe that abortion is killing a baby or you don't. Yeah. Which is it? I don't really understand the middle ground on it.

Yeah, it's hard to understand. Either you think it's going to come out as a Volkswagen. Right. And it doesn't matter what you do to it. Or you think it's a human child. Or we think it's a human child and you need to protect it. Kind of the two positions that make sense to me. Now, of course, the Volkswagen one doesn't make sense to me and therefore I don't support it. But at least morally it makes some sense.

If you believe this is just some weird alien life form that occasionally comes out as a boy or a girl, maybe you could justify not caring whether it lives or dies. Or you take the, say, Bill Maher position, who does believe actually said, Yeah, it is kind of murder. In fact, it's not just kind of murder. It is murder, but I'm okay with it. I guess you can do that. We're too overpopulated, Pat. You get the population bomb out of the library.

It's got a little bit of dust on it and everything. And it's wrong. But let's just still keep honoring those positions. Yeah, this is a weird one. It's very weird. I'm trying to think through this a little bit, right? I'm trying to not to be reactionary because I happen to be a, you know, someone who is very pro-life.

and I don't feel that equivocation is the correct response to this particular issue. You know, I have this weird vibe that maybe babies should be allowed to live. That is weird. Wow. I don't know where I came up with it. In every case, though? I mean, not every case, right? Just sometimes.

I was thinking like. If you feel like it and it's convenient for you. No, no. No, that's actually not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is they should just have a chance to live their lives. But what if it's inconvenient? What if I'm not the CEO of a major corporation at the time? And I might struggle from time to time.

This makes it much more difficult. No, still have them live. Really? Yeah. In all circumstances. Wow, you're an extremist. Children should be allowed to live. What kind of right-wing kook are you?

Yeah. And like, hey, and people will say, well, that's true. I mean, what if we lose the next Einstein or the next Michael Jordan? or who knows what we could lose. Also, a person who makes no difference at all. What about the idiot who cuts you off in line at Sonic? That person also deserves a chance to live. All people deserve a chance to live.

If they screw their life up once they're born, that's on them. But we should be involved in maybe allowing babies to live. It's a crazy position. It is. It's nutty. It's street. It is. And I mean, this sincerely, it is extreme because, I mean, you want to call me, and Pat, you'd be on this board bandwagon as well, a pro-life extremist.

It's probably a fair description because our opinion is not widely held for whatever reason. It's not. That's true. I understand that. We're in the vast minority on that. And I will say that seems to be the calculation of the platform. Right? Yeah.

So. And I think a lot of. of people think that's reasonable because you got to get elected. Well, Trump said it during the debate. Yep. We have to be elected. Well, I mean, that is true. And I will say under normal circumstances, my reaction to this platform, which has plenty of good stuff in there as well, like preventing World War III. I'm on board for that. Yeah, me too. I don't think we should have World War III. I didn't like one or two. No. We don't need a third one. Let's not have it. Now, you weren't around for either one or two, and neither was I. So how do you

know you don't like it. You know, you should know you shouldn't knock something before you try it. Right. Right. That's why they're trying to get us to try this third one. Maybe it'll be better and more fun than the first two. Yeah. I've noticed Democrats usually disagree with the Republicans. I mean, they seem to be wanting the World War III thing. Isn't it weird how they flipped on that? So weird. So bizarre. Now they would say, of course, they don't want World War III. That's what they would say is that, well, you guys were all about Iraq and Afghanistan. And I would say, yes, I was at the time. But I think I've learned something over the last 20 years of perpetual war.

And I'd like to avoid that now. It'll teach you some lessons. Yeah. Yeah. And I remain, I think, concerned with the geopolitical fallout of doing nothing in some of these situations. But I will say, you know, it should be a last resort. War should be a last resort. It shouldn't be the first resort. Yeah. And, you know, the situation in Ukraine and Russia is fascinating because you're right. All of the sudden, Democrats are so incredibly passionate. They're all about it. It's all they care about now.

Yeah. They want to be involved. They all of a sudden hate Russia after almost all of their officials went on vacations there back in the day. I mean, this was like, they all have townhouses there still. And all of a sudden, we're supposed to believe they're anti-Russia? Do you remember this from Barack Obama? The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because, you know, the Cold War's been over for 20 years.

I mean, that was his attitude. Yeah. In 2012, that was Barack Obama's attitude. Russia's not a problem. No, they're a friend. They're a friend. They're not something to be afraid of at all. You should be afraid of ISIS or whatever, but not Russia.

And it does sort of bother me that we highlight that clip because it is basically the best moment of Mitt Romney's career. Yeah. And it's frustrating to highlight it. But it is. He was right on that. He was. We said he was right at the time.

Yes, we did. Russia is, maybe not. not number one, but the top three when you're talking about major international threats. I would say China's probably number one now. Yeah, that's where I would go as well. So you look at this, uh, this platform and there's a lot of good stuff in there. It's, I think, a smart decision, I think, to transform what the old school process was, which was, you know, you've got a 300 page platform that no one ever reads and no one really pays attention to and shrink it down to about 20 points that everyone can kind of, you know, generally agree on and that are consistent with

the Republican Party ideal. So I think that process is fine. In the summary of the 20 points, the word abortion doesn't even exist. This has been a central part of the Republican Party's ideals for a very long time. A part of it, you know, the overturning of Roe versus Wade was the beginning of the end of abortion. If, you know, the overturning of, you know, the overturning of, you know, you are of the optimistic sort. But it was also part of a 50-year legal battle, a 50-year effort to overturn one of these, one of the worst legal rulings in history. So the fact that it would just be abandoned, and there is some sort of boilerplate

language in the expanded document that kind of indicates, Pat, well, we're against late-term abortion. That's good. You should be. Yeah. That's it. And that's it. And it says something about being generally pro-life. Like, it doesn't really define that.

I just feel like, I'm of two minds of this, Pat. Tell me where you would land. And maybe we can get calls on this. 888727 B-E-C-K. Because it does, it's a tough one in some ways, if you think it out. Number one, the platform, who you, even reads it. I think you can make the argument it doesn't mean really a thing. Number two, Donald Trump has a pretty good record on this topic. Right? Like, he, he pointed justices.

Yeah. Who overturned Rovers Wade of something that both you and I together have said for many years would never happen. Right. And then it happened. So how can you question the guy? On the other hand, you know, it seems very much like it's politics here where the calculation being made this time by Donald Trump is what benefits him to be elected is to be sort of soft on this issue, to not scare suburban women away, right? I understand that as a political calculation. Maybe it's the right one. But his calculation in 2016 was we have weakness with evangelical Christians and others that are pro-life. We should be strong on this issue. And that's a different position than the one he has today seemingly. I get that, well, they made the decision that's going back to the states. But I don't know. How do you, how do you work through this yourself? Well, I'm having a hard time too. I'm struggling with it because you know, you do have to be elected. And he said that at the, at the debate. Otherwise,

you got a Democrat in office again, and especially this one, who is killing us. He's just killing us. And so he's making a political calculation and, you know, a lot of people think he should. On abortion, I don't think you can make that calculation. On abortion, it's too important. It's too critical. And, you know, again, you're either pro-life or you're not. So I think there's one exception and that's the mother's life in danger. But that almost never happens. Yeah, I mean, does it? It's pretty darn. It's incredibly rare. I mean, some doctors, some doctors say it's never happens. I mean, and it's, again, like, because you could do a C-section, right? And I think that's the point is that, well, you can deliver the baby still. You don't have to-you-have-to-old. You have to

deliver the baby. Yes. You have no choice. Eventually, you have to deliver it. It's just whether you're going to try to deliver it alive or dead. Right. Right. Yeah. Again, like, there is, there, with that particular one, it can get a little messy. So, but again, I, it's still a difficult decision for anyone. You're just choosing one life for another and, like, how do you deal with that? But, it's hard. This is. This is. It's hard. This is. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's a what it winds up happening with these debates. You get a sidetrack just the 0.0001% of possibilities. At the end of the day, if we just saw both Donald Trump and J.D. Vance, who is one of the

leaders for VP, go on television and say they're pretty much okay with Mitha Prestone, which is like, that's what we're talking right now about 60 to 70% of abortions are going with the abortion pill. Right. You know, if these things that are tossed out there like, oh, well, what about 15-week ban? Well, you're allowing 95% of abortions to occur with a 15-week ban. These are not pro-life positions. No.

They're more pro-life than AOC. You know, and if that's your standard, I guess you're hitting it. But like, a pro-life standard is trying to stop abortions. Even a six-week ban allows 40% of abortions to occur. Wow. I mean, is, is that a pro-life position? It's half pro-life. And the abortion pill thing, I don't even understand how you can be okay with that.

How can you, if you're pro-life. I mean, I understand it if you're pro-abortion. I don't understand it from the Republican Party standpoint. And I don't get it. But again, maybe we're too extreme on this. Yep, very possible. Do you care, first of all, that it's not in the platform, number one. And number two, do you understand the campaign?

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There's nothing about it at all. In the expanded 16-page version, it does, in passing, mention it and only says they're against late-term abortion. It just shows how frightened off they've been by the outcry of the Democrats. Yep. It's worked really well. It has. It worked really well. I still don't necessarily believe you're winning or losing this election based on that law.

But you've said before, even if you do lose it. it though. Is this an issue worth losing an election over? It's a tough one. It is a tough one. Yeah, it really is. Let's go to Liz in New York. Hey, Liz. You're on the Glenn Beck program. Pat and Stu. Hi, thank you for taking my call. So I called in because I was raised by a single mother, very liberal Democrat, who was an atheist, but yet also told me abortion was, my God-given right as a woman. It somehow made what I now term sexual immorality, you know, made me equal to a man.

I could walk away from a pregnancy just as easily as a man could. I ended up getting, well, I got married, I had my first kid. We're going to say, in the phone, all the whole people can be a guy of the finance. Not to have a gross monger in art, to play to golf, nor be an pro of the crypto. Not even though,

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is made to help. Telecharge it right now. With our second child, though, there was a problem with a pregnancy, and I remember that we were in the car. Both of us debating in our own heads, we were both, you know, pro-choice at the time, and I wanted this baby.

I wanted this baby, so I'm going to get emotional. I wanted this baby. And then, One of us said, I think we should have him. And the other one went, yes, we should have tears and everything. So we have this wonderful. He's now 15 years old. He has special needs.

And I wouldn't change a damn thing. She makes my life perfect, along with my older child, of course. But I also started at that time listening, because how do you, when you're pro-choice, and then you make this decision to have this baby and, you know, this is the life we live. I started really listening to some of the pro-life arguments. And some of them I just didn't have a good answer to. and as a pro-choice person, that's what started to change my mind. I now consider myself pro-life.

And while I am not, I'm not comfortable with the Republicans saying, well, we're okay with it, you know, at this point or that point, you're right. I agree with you guys that you're either okay with killing a baby or you're not. Yeah. But if we don't allow hallway, like, I feel like this is a long process. It's going to be a long process of the pro-life movement, really working with people.

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To me, it's pretty important. I mean, is there a more important issue than this? then life? I don't think so. We do have a situation where tens of millions of people should be alive that aren't. Yeah, well. That's a big one. Yeah.

That's hard to. And that's just in the U.S. It's 64 million here. It is over a billion worldwide. That's staggering. Now, on the left, they're fine with that because we're overpopulated to begin with, according to many of them. But, I mean, every person on this earth could fit on the island of Maui.

Every person on earth. I mean, you'd be a little bit crowded. Yeah, if all eight billion of us got there. But yeah, yeah. You could be shoulder to shoulder. Can you imagine if you just stretched that out to Texas? We'd all have some room, let alone spreading us out over the entire face of the planet. I mean, I don't know how many people you can fit on this earth and how many we can feed, but it's a lot.

It's more than we have now. I mean, if you're a person of faith, I tend to come to the conclusion. Unlimited. Basically as many as you can. And you know what? I'd like to have more. Yeah. I think, you know, having people on the earth is a good thing.

When you've lost over a billion people worldwide, you just wonder, gosh, would one of them have cured cancer? And it's possible, right? It is, I mean, well, we know one of them is Joe Biden promised he was going to do it. So that's going to happen any day now. You can check if it's done right now, by the way. has Joe Biden cured cancer.com? Has Joe Biden cured cancer? I don't know.

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enlightened me to where they're coming from and what people are thinking. You know, I think people are an impossible situation sometime and they anguish over it. They don't want to, but their situations are so constrictive that they are not able to afford a child and don't have any support systems in place. I would think we would benefit a lot for looking for solutions, having women's center, with counseling, with options, with people who sit down and in trying to steer people for abortions, to people and see what we can do for them to actually facilitate them being able to have the life. And people are tormented later in their life over decisions when they have had abortions. So it stays with people.

So many, and if they had free ultrasounds, offer them women's centers with health care, with counseling, with options, and the ultrasound, the sonogram is so very important. And it connects them with their child in life. and it will actually, I think, actually remedy a lot of it. We have to realize that we have been indoctrinating people for decades now, and we have conditioned them to accept this. They know inside their heart they don't want to, but they've made it okay because they've actually had family members and others who have been forced in the same positions,

and this is what they chose to do. They do carry the burden, and they carry the loss. So we need to actually help women, help them make decisions that will best benefit their life, the future of this country and the life of that child and put them on better notes, offer support instead of just ending the life of a child. Patty, thank you very much. Could have been a pre-born commercial. I was going to say that exactly.

It sounds like a pre-born commercial. By the way, pre-born, this is not a paid commercial, but that is exactly what they do, and they're doing it all over the country. That's one of the reasons we've partnered with them. They're a fantastic organization. Phenomenal. That is doing almost all about that. And they really care.

Yes. And they don't just talk the women into having. carrying the baby full term. They also help afterwards. Up to two years after. So the question kind of a difference slightly of what Preborn's doing and what Patty's suggesting is she wants the government to be a little bit involved or maybe the

Republican Party. To be fair to the Republican platform, that is sort of indicating indicated in the platform. They have language in there that says basically to try to come up with some way of supporting mothers who are in these tough times that have to make these tough

decisions so that they don't make the wrong one. They do sort of refer to that in the expanded document a little bit. They basically say, no late-term abortion, and we should support moms after birth. You know, there's some sort of language like that. I think that's a good idea. I don't know necessarily, you know, of course, as a person who likes small government, I don't necessarily love all this stuff. I like what pre-born is doing better.

But that's a rational thing. You have to do everything you can to make these decisions more easy for moms. Show them. The alternatives. like adoption, for instance. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Chris in Indiana. Hi. Go ahead.

Hi. Hi. We've been wanting to overturn Roe for what, 50 years now? And now that it's done, and the states can make their own laws. Here comes the pro-life movement, wanting to get the federal government involved again. I think that's a bad strategy. I think that provokes the exact opposite of what we want. I think it's much more likely to have a pro-choice. nine-month bill passing through Congress and signed by some president than it is for a pro-life

bill. And I just think it's a bad strategy. I'm pro-life. I can't think of anything more sinful or ugly than abortion or selfish for that matter. But I just think it's a bad strategy. Thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate that. And I think... Although I'm not saying that... Right. It shouldn't go to the states. It should. I'm just saying the Republican platform... Yeah. is a statement of beliefs and principles, right? Foundational beliefs. And it also can have policy. I mean, to me, the way to get rid of abortion in the country legally is actually not a national abortion ban.

It is a constitutional amendment barring the practice. That used to be, by the way, put up by Republicans all the time. And yes, it would fail. But so, keep putting it up there until it succeeds. We especially us thought Roe v. Wade would always be intact, right? We never thought the Supreme Court would overturn Roe v. Wade, and that happened. So maybe one day the constitutional amendment could happen. Go back to the days where you'd look at polling on gay marriage.

And the left would be like, all right, we want gay marriage. And everyone would be like, huh? Gay marriage. It's got like 12% support. Good luck with that, buddy. legalizing marijuana is another one like that. In fact, go back long enough and you'll find interracial marriage with 4% support in this country, right? And obviously you'd be starting at a much higher level for a constitutional amendment for abortion.

It would be really hard. And it's supposed to be really hard to amend the Constitution. But a worthwhile endeavor. Endeavour. I think. Absolutely. Kevin in North Carolina. Hi.

Yes, so where has compromise actually gotten the Republicans or the conservatives as a movement as being one of them? I would have thought that we would learn by now that they keep moving the marker. The other side keeps moving it little by little by little. And if you look at the abortion issue to begin with, we keep hearing about raping incest, raking incest. Well, what percentage of abortions are actually related to rape and incest? Almost none. It's very tiny. It's more about making money.

This is a business. There's a lot of people that make a lot of money off baby killing. And I just think that it's solid. We shouldn't move on. Some people may differ with that. But being a father of three young children, my oldest is the sixth. To me, I don't see any movement on this because if you move on this, then you're going to move on everything else. You're going to move on gun rights.

You're going to move on all these different topics. And that's just how, you know, I feel about it. I mean, I'm sure you could get 50 different opinions. But for me, I think our Republicans as a whole, we're weak. And it's because we keep, we keep bowing to this sort of stuff. Like, okay, yeah, we won't do that. Oh, you're right. We need to back off.

Yeah. And it's interesting because I think you see the left, the leftist activists don't bend on this stuff, right? Never. They say what they want. Never. They keep going for it until they get it. and they keep going and going and going. That being said, Barack Obama ran for president saying he was against gay marriage

when obviously he wasn't, right? Yeah. So the second time he went up changing that. But in 2008, he ran for president and made a pragmatic decision, I guess. I mean, I'm trying to argue the other side here a little bit. But like, you know, if you're thinking about politics, maybe that was the right decision. He wind up getting it done. You know, so I think you can argue that.

To me, I would just have liked, I don't necessarily. necessarily think you need to dive into every policy that's going to how you're going to do this, you know, what you're going to do in each state. What I think would have been nice is a message of moral clarity that every life deserves a chance at living. You know, that is, you don't necessarily need to dive into every little bit of policy, but it is, it's disconcerting that, you know, they're really clear about men being in women's sports, which look, we're, I'm passionate about that that shouldn't happen. Me too. but it's way less important than abortion.

It's not even close. If, if, if, look, let's be honest about it. I didn't care at all about women's sports before Caitlin Clark anyway. If men dominated all of women's sports, eh, I'd probably shrug my shoulders a little bit. The only exception if I have a daughter, so now I kind of care if this happens to her. But women's sports to me, not foundational American stuff. And I love, you know, again, I do actually care about that issue. I don't want to blow it off.

comparing it to a life not being able to live. It's just not close. And that's in the platform. We're really morally clear about when not being in women's sports. That's in the platform. We can't be clear about abortion? It's amazing. It's despicable, really.

It really is because, you know, yeah, there's a big difference there. A big, big difference. All right, you got a trophy? A man got a trophy in a woman's sport. it's bad. Or yeah, it's bad, bad. It's irritating. It is.

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So just don't talk about it. We went along with that. And we believed it. We were like, yeah, okay, all right, you're right. That's probably too divisive. And so year after, year after year, it got worse and worse and worse because the left completely controlled the discussion. And then finally, when we jumped in and we got a president who believed in the cause, at least to a certain extent, and put in three Supreme Court justices. who were absolutely pro-life, and he kind of was okay with a litmus test on that, too. The left has always been okay with it. Well, are you pro-choice? And for the left, if you weren't pro-choice, you couldn't be a Supreme Court justice. So I think Trump kind of went along with that theory, just the opposite. And you had to have a litmus test that you were pro-life.

Yeah. And he did. And it got Roe v. Wade overturned. Incredible. Incredible success. Something we thought could never happen. And it's probably defensible. just say, look, the platform doesn't mean that much and Donald Trump has a good record on this topic. Just trust him once he gets in office, he'll be the same guy. And that's probably true. Right. Like, he'll probably be pro-life. I, I am concerned that he just seems very nervous about it. Yeah. You know, he doesn't seem as, you know, strong as he was when he ran the first time. Look, it's risky. I've talked to a lot of real conservatives who actually are pro-life people who really care and just say,

look, this is toxic right now politically. It's a problem. People are losing elections. Good people who actually are pro-life are losing elections over this. And we just can't make it the focus this time. Where's our friend Dan on this? Dan Andros, who is one of the most pro-life people I know. Oh, I mean, he's definitely on our side.

He's the same. Yeah, he's not saying, yeah, you need to moderate your position on this. No, I mean, it's just tough to moderate when you're talking about children's lives. I don't know. I mean, I can understand political calculation. And I think like the correct position for a politician is probably, look, we want there to be no, we want, we're pro-life. We will take each step that we can take so that fewer children are, are, have their lives expired in this way. Right.

That doesn't mean we're going to get everything right now. We're not going to get the constitutional amendment that Stu wants. It's not going to happen. At some point it might. And we should take every bit of ground we can get as it goes towards that. direction. But like right now, what we can probably get as the states and improve the state laws, that's probably what we can get right now. It's a rational position. Yeah. Let's go to Gary in North Carolina. Hey, Gary, welcome. Hey, just really quickly, if they pass this and they put that in there,

then the answer is no. It's a line. I'm not going to cross. I'm not going to vote for Trump. We'll not vote for an RNC candidate that supports that. I just won't. We keep yielding ground. You know, North Carolina, both our senators in 2022 voted. or the Save the Marriage Act. And so our, my senators are getting progressively more left than conservative. And I'm just, I'm tired of the, yeah, we'll put you in, you'll change. And then you just drift to the left instead of stand firm on issues that are very clear. And so if they cross this line on abortion, then, you know, I won't vote for them.

It's interesting. Thank you, Gary, for the call. Even if you listen to Gary and you just like, gosh, you can't, we're not going to vote for Donald Trump like this is going to be terrible. Like the party needs to hear those voices. Those people do exist. And, you know, people who are super passionate about this topic and will not bend on it in a close election, they really matter. And so I think there is a way. And in a state like North Carolina.

Yeah. Which is a, yeah, swing state. Yeah. There is a way, I think, to make those people feel comfortable without blowing up, you know, every suburban, you know, mom from the Donald Trump campaign. Like I understand what, you know, I know, I'm not going to get everything I want on this. I get it. I get it. I know I'm not going to be pleased. I got it. But I think you can do something for these people who, by the way, have been the foundation of the party. Yeah. For the past 50 years. You can't just blow them off completely. It just, it's a very risky strategy if you do that. Yeah. I mean, the RU 486 thing, maybe that's the biggest issue.

for me because that's where most abortions come from now. Especially now. You know, first, I mean, especially when you have access in these areas, you know, being cut off by good sensible laws. Mm-hmm. They are now just shipping these things in from India.

They're just getting the pills shipping from India and I'm like that, well, okay, that doesn't necessarily. It was all that long ago where RU486 wasn't even legal in America. I don't know, 15 years, 20 at the most. Summer is supposed to be a time for relaxing getaways not dealing with identity theft. If you're planning your next vacation and be on the lookout for travel scams, avoid clicking on unsolicited links with deals that are just too good to be true. And look out for impostors posting as travel agents.

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Okay. I am, just to you know, I'm agnostic, so I'm kind of straddle a fence on where life begins. I know you guys believe, I'm assuming you believe life begins at a conception. And I'm not there. Yeah. I have no idea when life begins. and I am perfectly okay with compromising to an extent. Late-term abortion, I'm absolutely opposed.

But I think first trimester abortion is perfectly reasonable. Not me personally, I am pro-life. I would never want any of my children to have an abortion. I would not do it. If anyone came to me and asked me about it, I would give them the pro-life spiel. But I don't, but I don't. Yeah, I can tell you you feel strongly about it.

The spiel. When you go into spiel, I'll give you the pro-life spiel. Okay, so you wouldn't err on the side of caution then, necessarily, William? I lean more towards the woman's right to choose, because I believe if there is a God, if there is a God, and life begins that. conception and it's a sin against God, I feel God will sort it out at the end. Well, God can sort out late-term abortions, too. And also murders when you're 45 years old, right? I mean, God's going to sort all that out. You don't really have a choice on that stuff.

No, it's interesting because I think, you know, I think it's, to me it's pretty clear. But I can, you know, a lot of people have these issues of figuring these lines out. I would just appeal to your sense of, there's a lot of things I don't know, a lot of things that I'm not an expert in. And when I have the opportunity to err on the side of life, if I'm admitting I'm not sure. Like, if I don't know where that line is, why would I make the line later? I would think you'd want to protect life. And I think if we think about this in a way of just doing what we can to consider the person who we all know will be a person, right?

Like this is not like, it's not like, it's not going to be a, you know, a fern. This is eventually going to be a human being. if we can kind of think about what this is, because I don't, I will say, William, and I really seriously legitimately appreciate your call and explaining this, because you are in probably the majority. I think the majority does support first term abortion. Second and third term, it's not even close. Overwhelmingly Americans oppose it.

First term is not that way. And I think it's because, yeah, I don't know, you don't see the picture really on the, on the ultrasound. It doesn't really look like a baby yet and all that, but you do know. And the woman's right to choose thing has. has been really compelling to people. Well, okay, yeah, and I agree. You should choose on your own body,

but there's another body at stake here. And that's the one inside of you. That's a separate body with separate DNA and separate limbs and eyes and ears and a brain and a heart and all these things that matter. If you're saying only the woman can choose, and it's between her and her doctor, well, but you're just completely,

discounting the other body inside. Right? And to me that is so wrong. We lost William there, but I think, you know, it comes down to if you're going to have a middling position on this, right? You have to pick a day. You have to pick a moment. You have to pick a second.

Yeah. Where this turns from something that's totally fine into a crime, right? It turns from something that is just a clump of cells. into a human body that is the life is ending. If you're like a person that says, okay, that's seven months, whatever it is, well, why isn't it, you know, six months and 31, or 30 days? Why isn't it, you're going to have to give me, you're going to have to draw a second where that clock ticks and that turns from nothing into a life.

Yeah. That decision's really easy when you make it at conception. It's not easy. And to be frank, doesn't make any sense. to put that at three months or four months or 15 weeks or six weeks. A lot of people now put it at 21 weeks because that seems to be when the fetus is viable. That was when the baby can survive outside the womb. Today it is, right?

It was 24, 25, 26 weeks when they did Roversus weight. It could be changed next year. Exactly. We don't know. And at the end of the day, it doesn't make any sense to make that determination. because what you're doing is you're, I mean, I thought about this with, what was the guy in Philly, the guy who went to prison, abortionist. Oh, yeah, Grover, wasn't it? Yeah, what was his name?

I'll figure it out. I can't remember his name off the top of my head. It should be one that's in this, and I could feel Abby Johnson, who's incredible on the life issue, yelling the name at the radio right now. So I apologize for not remembering this monster's name. Luckily, he's no longer in our lives. he's been put away for a very long time. But what's fascinating about his story was many of the abortions he... Kermit Gossnell.

Kermit. I knew it was a weird name. Kermit Gossanel. I had the wrong Sesame Street here. You did. You actually went to Grover. No, it's Kermit. And I almost blamed Grover Norquist for this. He is not guilty of these crimes.

It is Kermit Gossel. And what's fascinating about that, A lot of people are like, gosh, that was the worst thing I've ever seen. This man was taking babies and killing them late term, ripping them out, ending their lives. Many of the abortions that he committed, the murders he committed, happened a week after the deadline. Yeah. Meaning if he had done this stuff a week earlier, he's not in prison. He's at a country club with a Porsche.

Yeah. Right? What sane society would do this? Throw a guy in jail for 50 years for a two or three day time period where he does the exact same thing? That makes no sense at all. And I think the problem here when you're talking about this, at some level government has to make these sort of indiscriminate lines. But morally, we certainly don't have to make them. And look, it's just not about choice.

To put this last, and we have a million calls on this, we'll get to them here in a second. It's not about women's choice. This is not a women's choice issue in any way. Because frankly, if you talk to any, if God came down today and came on the air and just came into this third chair we have here, it was like, hello, Pat and Stu, and said, by the way, I really appreciate all the stuff you say about abortion, but actually I don't care. It's not a big deal to me. until they come out of that birth canal, basically it means nothing to me.

So I appreciate where you guys have been, but honestly, you don't have to care about that other life anymore because it's not life. Let's just say it happened. It's not going to happen. Let's just say it happened. If it happened, none of us would care.

You could go ahead, abort, abort, aboard, abort, abort, abort. If it's not life, I don't care if you abort it. Secondarily, if it is life, if God came down to liberals and said, whatever their God is, came down to liberals and said, hey, Well, it'd be Gaia. It is.

Gaia comes down. It says, hey, liberals. I know what you've been saying about the whole, hey, you can kill children in the womb thing, but wow, that really matters to me. You can't. That's real life in there. In theory, you would assume every liberal would say, holy crap, it is murder? Well, then, of course, we don't want it to happen. The point is only about the life in the womb.

It is not about women's choice at all. The woman going through this is incredibly important. And it's why you have, you know, we talk about supporting them after the birth. We talk about helping them through these decisions. It is incredibly important and not easy. You know, God forbid you go through one of these terrible scenarios that ends in a pregnancy, not easy at all. At the end of the day, it's about the decision is made about the life. Conservatives, if it was just removing a few cells, a clump of cells that we did not think was life, we wouldn't care.

No conservatives. Like, I oppose women's rights to remove tumors. Like, there's no conservative with that position because it's not about women's choice. It's about the other life. Right. Exactly right. All right. More of your calls coming up.

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I think it's as you guys have described I think it's murder I think it's the sin of our generation that being said as we've listened to the discussion today it reminds me

of the negotiations that the delegates had during the signing of the Declaration of Independence where there was a paragraph in there about slavery. And as the days became, as it became time to approve or not, the Declaration of Independence,

John Adams, I believe, was vehemently against removing the paragraph, but if he had not done so, it would never have been approved. Well, it wouldn't have been approved unanimously. That's true. There were two states opposing it. Which was required to have it pass.

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I don't know if I would necessarily put that on my top of my resume for decisions all time. I didn't necessarily turn out. But I mean, like, I think it's a rational argument. Yeah. That pragmatism is real. Yeah. It's not all just people folding for their own personal. benefits. Sometimes you have to do these things. Sometimes it's not where I stand on it, but I do understand why people are there. I've talked to, I mean, real conservatives who really think, like, look, and I think there's a reason to believe as well

that maybe Donald Trump gets in there, he's walking these lines for politics now, and he gets in there, and he is the same guy he was in 2016, which obviously turned out pretty well for pro-life causes. So, I mean, I think that's a totally defensible position. I just wish there's a little bit more, you know, a little bit more in the platform. That being said, maybe nobody cares about it.

Maybe it's just like, it's just meaningless and no one ever reads them anyway and why should we bother, who cares? I just, it's kind of an important issue, Pat. Important one to me. Me too. Me too. Triple-eight-7-27-B-B-E-C-K.

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and he has now. He has. George Clooney has announced his position. So it's over. It's over. One way or the other, it's over. We played you a very suspicious announcement from Nancy Pelosi earlier on the program. We had that handy by any chance.

This is bizarre because Joe Biden came out and has been saying all week, I'm not going anywhere. For two weeks now, almost. It'll be two weeks tomorrow. He's been saying it the whole time over and over and over and over again. And starting Monday, really put the full court press on this. I releasing a letter. I am staying in every speech. I am staying in.

And we have not heard much from Nancy Pelosi on this topic. We finally did hear from her on MSNBC today, specifically challenged on what she thinks should happen. Here's what she said. Does he have your support to be the head of the Democrat ticket? As long as the president had the president, it's up to the president to decide if he is going to run. Just aside. We're all encouraging him to make that decision because time is running short. The, I think, overwhelming support of the caucus, it's not for me to say.

I'm not the head of the caucus anymore. But he's beloved. He is respected. And people want him to make that decision. He has said he has made the decision. He has said firmly this week, he is going to run. Do you want him to run? I want him to do whatever he decides to do.

And that's the way it is. Whatever he decides, we go with. Well, yeah, he already said, he decided. That's amazing. It is amazing. You can't take a side on that? You have to. It's so, it's so awkward and so intentional.

Yeah. She is cold as ice. Cold as ice, man. You know, she, man, she's a machine. even in her age that she can't say decide anymore. She's still a cold-blooded political machine. It's up to the president to secide. To society.

It really is up to the president to society. Now, George Clooney does not even address what Nancy Pelosi said. The soiding of the president. No. But we have seen another major official come out as well of TMZ kind of cornered George Stephanopolis. This is after the interview. and everything and asked him, hey, like, what do you think about?

And it's amazing that he would think this is okay to answer. I don't think Stephanopoulos knew he was being recorded, but I mean, how do you not know? You're a big time news anchor. You're supposedly a journalist. You got to be careful with that stuff, right? But he wasn't.

No. The question was, do you think Biden should step down? You've talked to him more than anybody else has lately. And George's response was, quote, I don't think he can serve four more years. Now, he's apologized. for that. Why would you apologize for your opinion on that? Or he's apologized for telling the truth. The first time he's ever done it, so now he's very nervous. He's lost his entire character

of lying and he's telling the truth. It's a fascinating thing because you know who else knows that he won't serve four more years? All humans. All human beings know this is not possible. He's not going to make it to 87 years old in the White House. That's not going to occur. But George Clooney is out, Pat, and he says this, a new headline, op-ed for the New York Times, which has really been leading the charge on this stuff from the beginning. Interestingly. Uh-huh. He says, I love Joe Biden, but we need a new nominee by George Clooney. Holy cow.

Now, you might say, okay, again, George Clooney is a very prominent actor. Huge fundraiser, though, for the Democratic Party. That's the important thing here. And he just held a massive fundraiser for him that I think they took. took in the most money in a single night ever. He mentions this, yeah. Last month, I co-hosted the single largest fundraiser supporting any Democratic candidate ever a month ago for President Biden's reelection. Yeah, it was like $30 million in one night.

He says, I love Joe Biden as a senator, as a vice president, and a president. I consider him a friend. I believe in him. Believe in his character. Believe in his morals. It was just incredible. I don't know how you could believe in that. In the last four years, he's won. I mean, the guy did have a tequila company. He's drunk writing this. I believe in his morals. In last four years, he's won many of the battles he's faced. But the one battle he cannot win is the fight against time.

Wow, that was beautiful. Beautifully put. None of us can, Pat. Okay. It's devastating to say it. But the Joe Biden, I was with three. Devastating. I'm devastated.

I'm devastated. Yeah. The Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fundraiser was not the Joe big effing deal, Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. So he's admitting that he noticed the decline when he was with him.

Before the debate. Oh my gosh. That's interesting to me. This is an interesting nugget. You raised $30 million for the guy. And now, only now. Imagine. A month later, we're hearing

that he wasn't in good shape. Can you imagine being one of these donors? You just got bilked out of $30 million and they're just like, yeah, by the way, we knew the whole time he had no chance of being president. Listen to the way he phrases this. Wow. It's devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden, I was with three weeks ago at the fundraiser

was not the Joe big effing deal Biden of 2010. He wasn't even the Joe Biden of 2020. He was the same man we all witnessed at the debate. That's huge. Huge. So it was not a one-time thing. Wow. He is saying it was not.

Of course. I mean, this is silly. Come on. But he's admitting it. He's been. that he saw it. Oh, he goes on. He says, was he tired? Yes. A cold? Maybe. But our party leaders need to stop telling us that 51 million people didn't see what we just saw. And that, I mean, what a reinforcement that a guy who's this big an ally of Joe Biden enough to hold this fundraiser

and talk all of his Hollywood big shot friends into donating up to 30 million. million dollars. It's not a piece, but collectively. It's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. I mean, if you, if you've ever done a fundraiser, you know, they're not easy, you know, even for great causes, let alone crappy causes like this one. Yeah. So, 30 million dollars is raised, and you've got this guy who raised it saying, yeah, he, he's bad. He's in bad shape. Yeah, he can't continue. This is not the same dude that people think. They voted for in 2020. That's incredible.

That's huge to me. Wow. Yeah. And I think, look, the Clooney thing is big. That Pelosi Club. And the Pelosi thing is massive. Yeah. Because this is someone in leadership basically saying, hey, Joe, what was your answer on that?

You should think about it again and answer again. Well, that's what she's saying. Mm-hmm. Without saying. Right. She's saying, you're wrong, Joe. Think about it again. Because it's not like she didn't hear him say it.

She knows he said it. And the host states it right back to her face. Yeah. I mean, she is basically telling, that's basically her saying publicly, step down. And to the point where she's so old and also can't speak, she says he has to syside whether he's going to step down. She's incoherent too. It's up to the president to secide. It is.

Is that, like, it's a combination, I think, of secede and decide? side, I think. Perhaps. Or it's just a drunk slur. Is it step aside and secede? I don't know. You're giving her too much credit. I think she's just hammered.

But I will say that that is, that's significant. And I am, if I am Joe Biden, I don't care what George Clooney says or what Nancy Pelosi says. It's my nomination. I probably care more about what George Clooney says. Right. Well, because, yeah, you're running. Nancy Pelosi because he's the big fundraiser. Nancy Pelosi's not doing squat for you.

I would just get angry at Pelosi, right? Like, screw you. You're a hundred years old too. Right. I mean, she older than him? I want to say she's older than him. Am I wrong about that? No, I think she is.

She is? I think she is. Nancy Pelosi is. Is she 83? I want to say she's 83. Now, she did step down from leadership. She's 84. Wow.

She did not, she did step down. I mean, she's older than Mitch McConnell, Joe Biden, and Donald Trump by significant margins. she did step down from leadership, but not because she said she was incapable of doing the job. And she kept the seat. She has nothing to speak for. I mean,

like, it's insanity that she's doing this. Now, part of this is because I really want Joe Biden to remain the nominee. And that's probably somewhat revealing to the, to Democrats who might be listening as to what they should do, right? Like, if, if Pat and Stu are saying,

I think Joe Biden should remain the nominee, you probably don't want him as the nominee. I know if I were a Democrat, I would have been arguing years ago. No way, another term with this guy. No way. We lucked out in 2020. Somehow we're here.

I don't want Kamala Harris either. I want a real freaking primary. Make him fight his way through this field like every other person. If he wins, he wins. But I don't want him. He should step down immediately. In fact, I would probably have been demanding him stepping down a couple of years ago

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Okay And living the kind of life That it's going to take To change the climate How much money are we talking about here? I'd like chicken feed. 90 to 100 million. I'm sorry.

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Thank you for the reminder then. You know, can I ask you just one more question while we're on the topic? Because, you know, you're asking for $100 trillion. Can I just ask you about... Million billion? Can I ask you about $230 million for a second? Okay. That was the cost of the pier you built.

The Gaza. And it didn't do anything. And now they're deconstructing it because it failed completely. I love that story, by the way. I will say it might be my favorite story. It is every Joe Biden policy in a nutshell. It starts off with these big expectations, these incredible warm feelings for all the good it's going to do.

We're actually going to feed the people that we're eliminating as well on the side. But I mean, America does that, right? We dropped food to the Afghans because the theory, obviously. is that we're just, we're fighting against the government, not the people. And so we're trying to feed the people. And they're doing that again here. And, but everybody said, look, Hamas doesn't want this. No. You're going to be attacked while you're building it. And they were. And they were. But I think this is so reminiscent of all of their policies. You got the supposed feel good intentions. You got the gushingly positive media attention highlighting all the caring reasons we're doing this.

Yep. You've got the sort of legalistic rule bending they do on all this stuff. This one was, we don't have any troops on the ground. We've got troops on a pier 20 feet from the ground. Like, that's not real. The backflips they had to do to make that work. So ridiculous. It never had a realistic possibility of solving the problem. It was massively expensive.

It was massively over budget. Of course, the result of it, we immediately knew it was doing less good than was promised. and sure enough, Hamas didn't allow it. And Hamas stole a lot of this. We were actually helping terrorists with it. The peer literally crumbled into pieces, just like all of his other policies.

And, of course, the failure of the idea never really gets acknowledged. We don't really have a conversation as to why we allowed this to happen in the first place. I will say, I don't ever remember a bill being passed to fund 230 million. million dollars. They just redirected it from other sources. But like, at some point, shouldn't they be held responsible for this massive failure?

No. No, because nobody ever is. Nobody ever is. It's like they just built a building and it fell over. I know. Wouldn't the construction company get some blame for that? You would think. You'd think. But no, here, we're all going to just, they built a giant metal Lego set in the sea that got

rolled over the first time a wave came by. We're all like, gosh, there's a surprise. Well, he really meant well. It sure he took $230 million. Think about that amount, Pat. Like, all of the money you will ever pay in taxes, your entire life went to fund one half of one of the Lego pieces to build that pier.

That ended up in the ocean. That did nothing for anybody. We've been so desensitized to the money that the government spends, though. People think, $230 million is not bad. It is really true. People don't even acknowledge it. Nope.

I mean, I think it could be $230 billion and people might not be necessarily moved. Yep. It takes over a trillion dollars now to get us to even pay attention. And that's how we wound up in the situation we're in. Did you all, but speaking of what's going on in the Middle East, did you see Kabul Harris's response to the anti-Israeli protesters? She was asked about, I guess they're most. motives and things, and what she had to say was they're showing exactly what the human emotion

should be. Wait. Huh? What? What does that even mean? Showing exactly what the human emotion should be? Is the human emotion that we should all hate Israel or Jews? Or what are you talking about?

Just bizarre. And these are the people leading the way. And you wonder why we're in the situation we're in. It's up to the president to Sassar. For years I was living in constant pain. There were days I couldn't move my hands. I couldn't paint. I couldn't write.

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You're going to decide today. He decided yesterday, but he's going to tell us tomorrow. He's going to decide during the confagantial. and he's going to decide right before and he's going to decide after it. There's not going to be a vice president. I've heard everything. All of it. It's so ridiculous.

Which is it? It's been fun in a way because if you know Donald Trump and you know the way he operates and his campaign operates, this has just been him screwing with the media for months. Yeah. Like, you know. He does enjoy that. Yes. It's just like a yo-yo.

He just keeps putting it out there and bringing it back in. They have said literally every combination of everything. He's already made the decision. He won't make the decision for a long time. He's got a huge feel. He's got only, he's down to the last couple. The latest report was he's down to three with two leaders. They seem to be jamming Rubio in now.

Yeah. So the two are Doug Bergam, Bergamentum in effect. She doesn't make any sense to me. Don't understand that one. I don't really get it either, but I mean, he's supposedly good on energy. Yeah. You know, so, but like, I don't know. There was a thought at one point because of his fundraising difficulties several months ago.

That's not an issue now. Not an issue. Not to mention he's a billionaire. If he wants to put money in his campaign, he used to put it in his campaign. Yeah. Right. But, and of course he also has lots of other billionaires that support him. I don't think, I don't think money is going to determine this election.

I never bought it. And Bergam isn't, like, Elon Musk, right? Like, isn't he only a hundred millionaire? Like, he's not even a billionaire. I don't think. I don't think so. But he's not like, again, that's a lot of money. Yeah.

But throwing an extra $100 million. He doesn't live in a double. wide trailer and he doesn't wonder where his next meal is coming from. That's true. But I don't think a billionaire. The fact that he might throw $100 million of his personal money into this campaign, does that really move the needle for you if you're Donald Trump? Like, so?

Yeah. It's not really going to make the determination as to who wins or loses this campaign, I don't think. So Bergham is up there. And then J.D. Vance was the other one mentioned as the top two candidates. Senator from Ohio, 39 years old. He is very well aligned with the sort of America First MAGA platform. Well, he's adopted all of the MAGA platform ideals. He has changed quite a bit over the years.

He was a Trump critic in 2016, obviously well known for his book Hillbilly, Helmilly Elegy, which kind of gives you the terrible story of life in the Midwest and drugs and opioids. But he tells us a story of the real problems of that area. which I think is an interesting thing that's been a little overlooked with him. A lot of people say, well, he's from Ohio. He's going to win Ohio anyway. True. But Ohio is in a region of states that he really does need to win.

With problems, he's incredibly well familiarized with. He knows the issues affecting that region really well. So I think that is something to consider politically. And then the other one mentioned was Marco Rubio, as we talked about, there is an issue with two candidates coming from Florida, but it's solvable. They'll figure a way out of that if they want to pick Rubio. Rubio can be impressive as a politician. I've seen him speak live before, and he at times, I think, is really, really good.

I think we were really pleasantly surprised in 2015 when he came to Dallas and you, me, and Glenn went to the rally and were really favorably impressed by what he had to say. He was really good. He was good. And, you know, I think he will not hurt Trump. none of these guys Some make the argument that Vance is a little risky on this front I will make the argument I think Bergam is actually risky on this front

and everyone's saying he's the safe choice He is totally unproven Totally unproven At this level You are taking a guy out of single A And pushing him into the majors and saying Well he hit 330 in the minors Like okay

But you know Vance has been on television constantly He's gone through a major campaign recently he's been on media tours forever. All of his stuff is sort of out there. Rubio is even more well vetted, right? Because he was actually a presidential candidate already. He went through this fire already and dealt with some of the problems that are associated with it. I mean, I think Vance is a better communicator than Bergam is.

So I would be less worried about him having those. But like, people criticize the Sarah Palin choice because she was. an unknown governor from a rural state without a large population that seemed to have a decent record in that state and then she was put on that platform and there were issues. I don't see why you wouldn't see that as a risk at least with Doug Bergham. They're acting like this guy is, you know, the most... He's been in our lives for 100 years.

No one knew who Doug Bergam was six months ago. Unless you lived in North Dakota. When he announced for president, no one knew who he was. And now all of a sudden he's the safe choice? Like that is, it might be true, but there is absolute risk there. We have no idea how this guy performs on a stage like that. The only thing we have is he was in a couple.

He was only in one debate, wasn't he? Maybe he was in two. Primary debates where Trump wasn't there. And he was very forgettable. So maybe the idea is, well, he'll be very forgettable in the campaign too, and that's fine for Donald Trump. Probably true. But man, I don't know.

That one seems like a risk. So should we go through some of these other people that are possibilities? Tell me if you think these are real possibilities. Tim Scott, you think he's in it or out of it? No, I think he's out. I have not heard a lot of Scott Buzz lately. No. So I don't think he's going to be the choice.

But I wouldn't say he's completely, I wouldn't be stunned if it was Scott. I just don't think it's going to happen. Here's one that has not been talked about, but I could see Trump potentially doing, which is Glenn Yonkin. You think there's any possibility of that? I think there's a chance. He did mention him last week or the week before. He said, yeah, he's one of the names I'm considering.

Okay. And what you like with Yonkin is he did very well with, you know, the suburban woman crowd that Trump struggled with in 2020. Issues like education and stuff, prominent issues, obviously, in this election potentially. And Virginia is a state where normally is not competitive, but right now is. I mean, I think the polling from Virginia shows a pretty close race there. maybe he could help you there.

Obviously, if you win Virginia and you're a Republican, it's probably over. You've probably won the election already. Tulsi Gabbard. I ain't real. I don't think so. No. I don't think there's a chance.

I would be shocked, but there is an argument for it, right? Like, especially the way he's handling abortion. We just dealt with this last hour. If you want to kind of softly, soft play the abortion issue, you pick basically a Democratic woman. Who's pro choice.

Who's pro choice. And you stick around the ticket. I think it's a terrible idea. I do not want to Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer as the potential president of the United States. But what I will say is I don't get to make that decision. And I do like Tulsi Gabbard. Yeah, I do too. I like her.

But we're so easy on the right. Anybody who looks like an oasis in the desert of liberalism, we're like, yes, please, give me that. You know, and I think she benefits from that because she comes from the left. She supported Bernie Sanders at one point for president. but now, you know, she seems much more in line with a lot of what we believe. And so, but there's too many differences for me. Too many differences. And again, if she's, I mean, you know, the candidate's 78 years old.

I know we keep talking about the other guy who's really, really old and looks like he's about to collapse at any moment. But, you know, Donald Trump, you know, a lot of people are completely cogent when they pass away. Like, I mean, he's passed, he's right around the age. And she could become president as kind of. of the point. Yeah. Yeah. God forbid,

I hope it doesn't happen, obviously, but I'm nervous about that. This is an important pick. Yeah. Ben Carson, any chance do you think he picks him? I hope not.

I think no. And he's mentioned him a few times, but I don't think so. I don't think that's real. I don't think he's really picking him. The fake Ramoswamy. I don't think so. I mean, he wouldn't be bad at all.

No. I wouldn't mind that. Consistent with the sort of platform that that Trump has. Like there's a similarity there. He has publicly ruled him out, but then seemingly ruled him back in later on. So I don't know. Just keep a position in the White House

spokesperson arena. Keep that open for him. He'd certainly be able to do that. Imagine anybody better, as good as he is speaking and at living? Oh, they'd hate him so much. They'd hate him. Because he would run circles around him.

At least Stefanik. I just don't think she's well-known enough. Well-known enough. She's also not super conservative. She did do a great job on the Israel protests, I will say. Yeah. Christy know him. No.

It's over, right? No chance. The dog thing, I think, sunk that one, unfortunately for Christy. Yeah. Nikki Haley? No. No. Mike Pence is on this list.

No, I'm pretty sure he's not going to- Hates Mike Pence now. Hilarious if you're just like, yeah, we're running it back. I got Mike Pence on the ticket, Trump, Penn. We don't even have to print new decals. It'd be fun for a few days talking about it. It would be hilarious. Yeah.

We should go through where our most fun scenario is for how this plays out. I have an idea for it. All right. Let me give you a couple more names before we do that. Sarah Huckabee Sanders. I think that's an interest. That's a possibility. I think it's a small chance, but it's an interesting one.

She's been very loyal. You know how important loyalty is to him. And I don't know of anybody more loyal than she's been. There was some conflict about her not endorsing early. She didn't endorse Trump in the primary very early. Right. So there was some ruffled feathers supposedly about that. Byron Donald's, there's a chance of that.

He's been mentioned a lot. I just don't buy it. He's not well known enough. It's not a bad pick. No, he's a good guy. I like them, but I don't think that's going to happen. Tom Cotton? No.

No, I don't think so. Any other, no, I don't think so. So here's my, here's my scenario for most fun thing that happens in this election. Okay. Mm-hmm. All right. Kamala Harris organizes a Kamala coup. She gets the cabinet officials on board and they launch the 25th Amendment challenge and get Joe Biden thrown out of office.

She just decides she's going to take it. All right. Joe Biden is so angry about this that he decides despite the fact he's been thrown out of the presidency by the 25th Amendment he can stay on the ticket

and decides to stay on the ticket holds on names a new vice presidential possibility whoever that is and then loses terribly in the election so that would be fun

that would be fun would be hilarious I want that to happen. It's a little like this sports talk radio scenarios. There's no chance of it happening, but that's what I want. Bob from Brooklyn calls in and says, hey, Mikey, what if Mickey Mantle and Alex Rodriguez played at the same time on the same team as Sandy Koufax? You think they'd win?

What is your Bob from Northport call? You're suggesting the most fun that you could have in this particular? election. Do you have a crazy? The most fun, the one I'd like to see, obviously, for, just best for America. Yeah, that's not what I'm talking. I'm talking. Ron DeSantis. Wait,

Ron DeSantis. How does Ron DeSantis get? Okay, here's a scenario for that. They go through the election. Trump and Biden tie at 269. It goes to the House, and the House selects Ron DeSantis.

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They contend they are not the perpetrators, but the victims. If that's true, we ought to talk through its implications. If it's true, then the press was duped and duped by the federal government of the United States of America. If it's true, then the executive branch has been engaged in a massive and effective, conspiracy to keep Biden's infirmity from the people who were supposed to report the news. If it's true, then the White House fooled the media. It outwitted the media. It embarrassed the media. If it's true, then the president and his political party colluded to suppress the ability of the sacred, fourth estate to relay matters of public interest to the voters. And in the process,

it made a mockery of the First Amendment. So is the press going to investigate that? Certainly sounds like a big story to me. And by investigating, I don't mean lash out at the president in the hopes that he'll be replaced by someone who does better in the polls. I mean, find out how this happened in the first place. Discover who knew, when, where, name names. If Biden goes, he'll be replaced by someone, probably his own vice president. How is the press going to make sure that she and her team don't do exactly the same thing on a different topic? It's a great way to call them out on the carpet.

Because it's absolutely impossible that they were duped. They weren't. Unless you don't look at your own. coverage. I mean, geez. They knew. They knew. They knew what we knew. They've always known. It's amazing that they play this game. And, you know,

with some people, it works. Oh, they didn't know he was, he'd suffered such decline. Just happened. When did that happen? Nowhere. Some minor thing popped up. No big deal. In the last week, he's really gone downhill. Well, now we know from George

Clooney, it was at least a week before the debate. Oh, right. That's when he started going downhill. How many times were, this deadline is going to be extended and extended and extended. Len Beck Program.