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Episode Date: May 23, 2019Hour 1: American citizen-turned-Taliban fighter John Walker Lindh is due to be released after spending seventeen years in prison …Are there certain crimes for which you should never get out of pris...on? …Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez calls those who took her claims about humanity's imminent peril due to climate change seriously as having “the social intelligence of a sea sponge” …Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer appeal to President Trump for $2 Trillion in infrastructure spending …Why are so many on the Left fighting for high-speed rail? …Stu says that, even on their best day, trains just can’t compete with planes. Hour 2: NPR updates its guidelines for talking about abortion …It’s all part of a larger effort to deny science by downplaying the significance of a fetal heartbeat …How often do “partial-birth abortions” actually happen? …Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) claims that the new abortion laws being implemented across the country “criminalize women for simply existing” ...“Pregnancy kills, abortion saves lives” – That’s not satire, that’s from The New York Times …Why has the Left been completely overcome by science denial? What on Earth is a “flickering pulse”?! …Caller asks why brain activity isn’t discussed in abortion debates – If someone is legally dead after it stops, why isn’t someone alive when it begins? …Many individuals who call themselves “pro-choice” have a stricter stance on abortion than Republican lawmakers. Hour 3: Mark Levin, host of LevinTV, joins the program to discuss his new book ‘Unfreedom of the Press’ …There is almost no freedom of thought in newsrooms – The news cycle is nothing but groupthink …President Trump has not attempted to manipulate the press through abuses of power like Kennedy and Johnson did …Pat is tired of America being “the world’s policeman” and attempting to introduce democracy to people who don’t want it …Managing war is an exercise in central planning – Such exercises usually don’t work very well …Three cheers for Chick-fil-A and Texas Gov. Greg Abbott …Jeffy Fisher is living healthy in 2019, but the same can’t be said for another Blaze Media host …Kamala Harris continues to harp on the “gender pay gap” as part of her campaign, but she’s hiding something in that regard. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This is the Glenn Beck program.
With Pat and Stu all this week for Glenn,
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We got some fascinating guidelines from NPR.
We'll talk about that later on today,
but also Ilan Omar and AOC have some brilliant things to share with us.
We'll get to that and much more coming up in about 60 seconds.
It's Pat and Stu for Glenn.
By the way, you can hear my show, Pacray Unleashed.
morning's right before Glenn and
Stu. I love the show.
It's, I mean,
it's incredible. I listen
every day at work.
And I love his mix of
the 70s, 80s, 90s, and today.
Do you like the all-request lunch hour?
I hate the all-request lunch hour.
You all like that. Yeah, because it's all
these people who call up and they request
songs that are in the 60s or tomorrow.
And I want 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, and today.
And for your convenience, we do have traffic
and weather together every 10 minutes on the 4.
That's good to hear.
Yeah, it's good to hear.
So that's great.
All right.
American Taliban was just released.
So that's exciting news because I'm pretty sure he's totally reformed.
Totally reformed.
Are you?
Well, no.
There seems to be a little doubt.
There seems to be a little teeny bit.
Now, they're releasing him early.
So really, you have to release him after 20 years because that's what he was sentenced to, right?
And no matter how he feels after those 20 years, you still have to let him go.
Yeah.
I guess that's true.
You don't really have to be reformed.
Don't have to be.
If you go through your entire sentence, right?
I mean, if you're...
We don't like to think you would be or are.
It's kind of the point of it, right?
But I guess if you come out, can they keep you in prison if you get sentenced to 20 years?
And you say, you know what?
I still pretty much like terrorism.
I guess I won't do it, maybe, but I'm still advocating for it.
And then it comes to the end of their term.
Can they just, I guess they just have to let you out?
I think so.
Yeah.
seem like he's reforming. No, and it's only
17 years, so they could keep him in there
three years longer. Which it
feels like there are certain crimes, Pat.
In which
you just don't get out of prison.
Okay? And
it's a small subset
for me. I'll give you an example.
John Hinkley. You go
and you shoot the president of the
United States over Jody Foster.
I'm never letting you out of prison.
He's like visiting his parents on the weekends.
and he's out, right?
I mean, like, you know,
yeah.
That, I feel like there's a line there.
Another one is treason against your country.
If you're going and you're fighting for an opposing force in a war,
you just, I don't know,
20 years doesn't seem appropriate to me.
And the fact that he's only served 17 is kind of a big deal.
And then going on, going past that,
it doesn't seem like he's reformed at all.
And you get these stories every once in a while.
And we've had people on the show in past years
who used to be terrorists and seemingly had reformed and were now speaking out against terrorism.
Like that there's a few people who have actually been on the show that have kind of meet that profile.
But that's not what John Walker-Lind is doing here.
No.
I mean, it appears as if he's still kind of excited about the whole terrorist thing.
What was it he said in 2015 about ISIS?
2015, he said that ISIS was doing a, quote, spectacular job after it beheaded a U.S.
journalist. Now, I will say, if the job description was, please, when hired, you will need to
behead a U.S. journalist. Technically, I guess they were doing a spectacular job. They got that job done.
Though that's not how I would describe it. No. I feel like maybe you have a little bit more hesitation
than your praise. So you might think, okay, well, that was 2015. In May of 2016,
Lind continued to advocate for global jihad
and to write and translate violent extremist texts.
He also told a TV news producer,
he will continue to spread violent extremism
and violent extremist Islam upon his release.
That doesn't seem good to me.
Why are we letting this guy go early?
That's bizarre.
I just don't understand it.
I mean, it's one of those things that, like, this is a difficult, like, thing to figure out how to deal with a terrorist in these situations.
Like, we're talking about the ISIS wives, right?
These women, they go over, they get married off into ISIS.
God only knows what happens to him for multiple years.
Then they all feel kind of bad about it.
And like, you know, hey, like, I was young.
I needed the money.
I just thought it would be fun.
Yeah, like, that would be fun.
And, like, some of them, like, they're like, well,
I was shocked to see in person them burning these people alive in these cages
because it felt so much different than when I watched the video on YouTube of them
running them alive in these cages and you're like, I can't give you that one.
No.
And so the conversation has been, do we bring the ISIS wives back to the United States
and have them tried?
And they want to get back.
Yeah, they should stand trial for treason.
And I feel like the most shows that I've heard on the conservative sort of side,
or people writing about it have said, no, like, these people are, are, it's a war, and they're on the
other side of this war, and they should be treated like anybody else who's on the other side
of the war, which I think is a legitimate position. However, if you're, if we have a law about treason,
it's kind of, it's, it's, it's a big deal, right? I mean, this is a constitutional principle,
right? Yeah. And like, it's hard to, to envision a more clear example of treason than going
over and assisting ISIS in the middle of a war against us.
Right?
Like, I just, I mean, how do you get more clear than this?
And yet, we will not, we never use it.
We've just basically, we've all decided, do you know what?
That part of our history, you know what?
It's like, it's like Halloween three season of the witch, just not part of the series.
We're just going to ignore that it happened.
All the other ones are Michael Myers.
There's this one where masks attack everybody's head on Halloween.
And it was, you know, maybe not the best movie in the world.
but that's the only one
we're just going to kind of just disregard
we're going to say no that one didn't happen
that was not part of the series and like this like
treason what I don't even know what that is
I mean it's so clear
John Walker Lind wasn't even charged with treason
right and that's the problem
if you had termed with treason he would not be out of
prison right now
this is the type of thing that is
they call for potentially
execution for this
this is a death penalty
situation and should be
treated as such
If you are going to go, and remember it's not just that he went and fought with the Taliban,
he also was involved in the death of the first American servicemen in the Afghanistan war.
A guy Mike Spann, who was a CIA member who was killed in a prison riot,
and that prison riot was involving this guy who's about to walk free.
I mean, how is that?
It's certainly not justice.
But it's amazing because of his frequent.
reported comments that he is not reformed, that he wants to continue to do these things.
They're like, there's a very, very strict release policy pad.
Very, very strict.
I don't know if you've heard this.
But he, first of all, is going to be monitored by parole officers.
Now, that's number one.
Whoa.
And I want you to think about how serious that is.
Okay.
He's going to be monitored by parole officers.
And number two, yes, he can go on the internet.
Yes, he can communicate with.
whoever he wants to.
But only in
English.
This guy, I think, speaks
Arabic or whatever.
What is it?
So he can only...
He can't speak that online.
He can only do extreme Islam Jihad
in English.
Yes.
He has to do it in English.
Now, if they said he had to do it in haiku,
I might say, okay, that's pretty difficult
because he's going to have to continually write haikus.
But no, this is he...
It's legitimately part of his release.
He can't do, he can't speak, uh, any other languages, has to only speak English.
Now, I mean, I, I guess that's a limitation because we're what, we're too lazy to translate what he's typing?
I, what do we?
And the fact that he's able to actually communicate with other people.
I mean, you know, he's on the internet.
Why is he on the internet at all?
Again, when he let, when he went to prison, the internet barely worked.
Okay, he's got to get out of here.
Imagine, I mean, now he can go anywhere he wants.
he gets the nice 4G or soon 5G access.
Got Wi-Fi everywhere.
He's almost in dial-up days when he got in person.
I don't know.
It just seems like a completely crazy idea to my house.
Especially since he's not, he hasn't reformed at all.
And that's pretty clear by his statements.
Although he did make an interesting statement to the parole board.
He made a 14.
minute speech that included, had I realized then what I know now about the Taliban, I would
never have joined them.
I never understood Giod to mean anti-Americanism or terrorism.
But then, you know, okay, so that's what he said to get out of jail early.
And then you look at everything else, he has said, leading up to that, it just looks
like he feels the same way he did when he went into prison.
And we didn't do what we should have done at the time charging him with treason.
and now we're making it even worse by allowing him to get out early.
There doesn't seem to be any reason for it.
Why would you let this guy go after 17 years,
charged as he is with pretty serious offenses like conspiracy to kill U.S. nationals?
That seems like a fairly significant crime.
Yeah, I think that's a big one.
Yeah.
In Foreign Policy Magazine reported in 2017 that an investigation by the National Counterterrorism Center
found that Lind, quote, continued to advocate for global jihad and to write and translate violent
extremist texts.
But the answer, though, is pretty good.
They said, for three years, he's going to be watched like a hawk.
Oh, wow.
So, I mean, look, three years, that's wonderful, because that's the time he would normally
have been in prison, right?
So when he would have been in prison, they're going to watch him carefully.
And then he's just going to be coming.
He's just going to be at your local, like, Starbucks.
He's going to be giving you Dunkin' Donuts as you come through, and we're supposed to be okay with that.
What are you an Islamophob?
All of a sudden?
Is that what you're...
No.
You're an Islamophob?
I am not in Islamophob.
I will say, though, if I go to Dunkin' Donuts and I order a croissant sandwich and he hands it to me and he says it in like Farsi, I am going to report him.
I'm going to report him.
He's only supposed to speak in English.
And I'll be very upset if he says something to me in Farsi.
All right.
It's Pat and Stu for Glenn this week.
More coming up in 60 seconds.
Pat and Stufer Glenn,
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We've got some wisdom from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
where she sees really kind of the wellspring of all wisdom lately.
She and Ilan Omar have really shared a lot of it with the United States,
and I appreciate it.
They've done a great job so far.
They have.
I'll say that.
In fact, informing us,
us climate deniers that we have only 12 years before the end of the world.
Yeah.
Which you said on multiple occasions.
Yeah, not just once.
Yeah.
Now, if you were just kind of making a random comment,
if you were mistakenly summarizing some in-depth piece of evidence from the UNIPCC,
you may be surprised to hear that you do that multiple times,
keep continually doubling down on the same claim.
She said famously, millennials and people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that will come after us and are looking up and we're like, the world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change.
And your biggest issue is how are we going to pay for it?
And that sort of attitude has been repeated multiple times.
She then doubled down on it when saying, for everyone who wants to make a joke about that, you may laugh, but you're a granddad.
kids will not.
Which is interesting because if the world is ending in 12 years, how am I having grandkids?
I mean, you know, my kids are pretty, my kids are, you know, pretty young.
Fairly young.
So it would be difficult for that to happen.
But maybe, I guess if you're saying someone who already has grandkids or whatever, maybe they, in the 12 year period would happen.
Casio-Cortez later flipped her position in early May, referring to the 12-year deadline as merely dry humor and sarcasm.
Now, it's interesting because you could, you could say Cosio-Cortez.
That was not humor.
Not humor, not sarcasm.
And you could say that she's just a dunce and just screwed it up, which is a likely explanation for almost everything she says, right?
She's not the brightest bulb.
However, this is something that's been repeated by many of the Democratic candidates for president.
I know Beto O'Rourke has been on that bandwagon multiple times.
And to the point where they actually had to start fact-checking this, you know, they had to go to the actual scientists who did
the report they're talking about and say, hey, do you guys think that the world's going to end in 12 years?
And they said, no, that's not what we said.
And they said basically like, we're really glad to have a chance to clear this up.
Because no, we are not saying that the world is going to end in 12 years.
The people who wrote the report they're referring to are saying that now.
That's how ridiculous this claim is.
And again, they are very alarmist on the climate.
It's not like these people who are saying, oh, everything's going to be fine.
They're saying there's danger, but what they're saying, these claims are completely ridiculous.
So, Akazio-Cortez later on went on to say, this is a technique of the GOP.
Try to take dry humor and sarcasm literally, and fact-check it.
Like the world ending in 12 years thing.
You'd have to have the social intelligence of a sea sponge to think it's literal.
Well, she's going to be very surprised to hear about a recent poll talking about Democrats
and whether they believe the U.S. has about.
12 years to aggressively fight
climate change before the whole world ends.
And there would be disastrous
and irreparable damage to the country
in the world. Sixty-seven
percent of Democrats
have the social intelligence of a
sea sponge. According to
Ocasio-Cortez's own definition,
two-thirds of Democrats
say that yes, 12 years is how long we have.
And, you know, of course,
they said it so many times. It's not
surprising that the Democratic voter
would believe it. But the idea that it was some joke or some, you know, anything other than a typical
Akazio-Cortez moment, we now know to be ridiculous. And in her attempt to get out of it, she's called
two-thirds of her own voters morons or sea sponges, which is a tad problematic, I guess. But also accurate.
I feel like this is the one thing, you know, every once in a while we can come across something
where Acazio-Cortez nails it. Where we can agree. Yeah. And it's important to point that out,
I think. And I think people doubt us when we say, hey,
if these people we disagree with really strongly say something that we agree with, we'll give them credit.
Yeah.
And we're giving her credit.
Right.
Like I...
She's right.
She is right.
They have the intelligence of a C-Spunch.
If you think the world is going to end in 10 years, you have the social intelligence of a C-Spunch.
And we agree with Akazio-Cortez on that.
I mean, finally, she's nailed something.
Yeah.
And we can sit here and deny just because she's from the other party, because she's from the other side of the aisle.
we can say no, Democratic voters don't have the social intelligence of a C-Sponge.
But she's accurately described this.
Yeah.
And she's right on it.
She's nailed it.
And who are we?
Just because she has a D after her name to say that she's wrong, that Democratic voters have more intelligence than a C-Sponge.
That would be wrong, Pat.
We are all about bringing people together.
How many times has Glenn talked about this?
Oh, many, many.
Bringing people together from both sides of the aisle.
Here's Akazio-Cortez
outlining in extreme detail
with incredible accuracy
describing the intelligence
of a Democratic voter
and she nails it
and what are we going to do?
Come in here and say, oh, you know what?
We don't like her policies.
We disagree.
No.
We agree with her.
Right.
Now, if she'd like to change it
and say that those same
Democrat voters have all the intelligence
of a bathroom bulbrush,
I'm willing to look into that as well.
Yes.
Because you're open. You have an open mind.
Yes. I mean, they did vote for her, many of them.
And so we could look into that statement as well if she ever makes it.
But for now, it's the C-Spunch thing.
And we agree.
It's unbelievable.
I just, the idea that, you know, there was just another thing that came out the other day.
CNN sent out one of their fancy alerts on the phone.
And it was like a worst-case scenario.
Sea levels could rise.
by blah, blah, blah, by the end of the center.
You know, like the typical, you know,
thing you've heard a hundred times,
the claims that everyone's going to die.
And at least this time, they included
worst case scenario around it.
Because this is what they're always doing.
They cite the worst possible thing that can happen.
They act as if it's the only thing that can happen
and then complain that we're not taking enough action.
Well, you know what?
People stop believing you when you say the sky is falling.
You know, when it doesn't fall,
people are like, well,
I don't know. Maybe what, you know, I don't really believe them. You know, and they're going to try to do the same thing with these, they had these tornadoes that have hit the Midwest and have been really devastating.
Missouri was a big one. Iowa, there was a lot as well. But, I mean, again, when you look at the global trends and the U.S. trends for tornadoes, there is a slight decrease over the last hundred years. But they will still watch the news tonight. You will see them blaming these tornadoes on climate change and expecting you.
to believe it.
And I don't know.
I just feel like the American people
have more intelligence
than a sea sponge
and can probably pick up
the accuracy.
But we'll see.
We'll see.
Pat and Stufer Glenn on the Glymbeck program,
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Must be really fun
for the president to have to meet
on a regular basis
with people who absolutely hate his guts
that just hate everything about him.
And you have to sit there
and attempt to get along with him.
You mean Nancy and Chuck?
because he always says that he likes Nancy and Chuck and he kind of gets them, right?
Like he, he, he, because they obviously hate his guts and surely at some level he hates theirs as well,
though he tries to to keep a positive face on that relationship at the very least, right?
Like he does kind of say, well, you know, I get them.
You know, I understand.
I've dealt with people like that my whole life.
I get who they are, which is certainly a demeaning way of saying it.
And I think he likes that.
But also, I think there is something there.
where he thinks they're so transactional.
You know, they're so, you know,
they're so transparent when it comes to this stuff
that they will trade,
they'll do the horse trading of what they want
for what the other side wants.
They can be theoretical deal makers
if you don't mind giving up a couple of trillion dollars.
You know, just a couple of trillion.
It's just the two trillion, though.
Two trillion.
They're not asking for a lot of money.
No.
Just two trillion dollars.
Two is a really small number.
Right.
That's really small.
I mean, there's only one or two numbers smaller.
Right.
You know, and now I do like one of the smaller numbers, which is zero trillion.
That would be nice.
I'm on team zero trillion.
Yeah, I am too.
But I was devastated yesterday when I heard that they got into a little TIF
and we're not going to get her $2 trillion of infrastructure spending.
Well, let's hope that keeps up.
They don't find a way to come back together on that because it's bad.
Well, last time they met as friends, it went from $1 trillion to $2 trillion.
Yes.
So I don't want them to be friends.
No.
People like, I can't believe these people can't work together.
Look what happens when they work together.
Only bad things.
An extra trillion dollars.
Now, look, we do need infrastructure spending, Pat.
I was just traveling.
Wait, you traveled?
Yeah, I traveled.
It was risky.
Not by air.
Yeah, by air.
Oh my gosh.
You found an airport that wasn't crumbling?
Well, I can't say that.
Unfortunately, I was at the airport.
And like an action adventure movie, I was running full sprint as the
entire airport was collapsing behind me and just missing the backs of my heels.
And I did have to jump over a large chasm where to leap to the other side.
A chasm was there?
Did you shout out across that chasm?
I'm Israel.
I'm Israel.
I didn't do that.
But I did survive.
There was no time to shout across the chasm.
You just leapt across the chasm.
I did leap across the chasm and I did turn back just at the moment to see a sad.
had Taco Bell employees sucked into.
Oh, no.
Yeah, no, because they lost one.
They had one of those airport Taco Bells and that thing.
And now, I did save a couple of bean burritos, but I was unable to save the human life that went into the chasm.
I mean, we act as if we are, the Central African Republic.
There's no airports.
Yeah.
No technology.
No bridges.
No airports.
We're just crumbling everywhere.
And it's like, how often do we have?
Is there a certain requirement?
for a human being in their life to have to fall for that.
Like, how many times are we expected?
And we fell for it in 2009.
Yeah.
And spent $787 billion, which I returned into like $840.
Yes.
Or afterwards.
And then up to maybe a billion.
Or more?
Or a trillion, excuse me.
I think it was over a trillion eventually.
And that didn't get us a better infrastructure.
We did get us some shovel ready jobs.
I saw some signs about it.
Oh, yeah.
Lots of signs about that particular.
infrastructure spending.
And now here we are, you know, one president later in his first term and we need another
$2 trillion of infrastructure spending?
Like I, I, like, that is.
I'm going to say no to it.
I'm going to say no.
So I'm glad.
People are like, I can't believe they can't work together.
Good.
The last thing we need are people like, you know, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to work with.
When you work with people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, you wind up on the short end
of the stick every time.
because she's still going to go out and call you Satan in front of every camera.
So why meet with her at all?
Right before their meeting, she's talking about this massive cover-up that he's responsible for.
And there's just a part of me, and it's a small part, Pat, that has a little skepticism as to how real these events actually are.
Like, does Nancy Pelosi really expect to have a pleasant meeting with Donald Trump?
When right before she walks into the meeting, she says he's covering up impeachable events?
Like, come on, she's doing this intentional.
She's goading him and do a fight, right?
Yes.
She looks like she's weak with her people because she has not endorsed impeachment yet.
So she's trying to, now this is her effort to appease her base and look tough.
And I think honestly, there's a nice chunk of this out of the Trump administration as well.
As she says these things in front of the camera, they're supposed to meet up.
Then right after that, he walks into the meeting and says, look, you know, you're not going to tell me that I'm involved in a
cover up and then have this nice meeting with me about infrastructure spending.
We're not doing both of these things at the same time, you know, get out.
And then he walks out.
Which I like, by the way.
Which I like.
And I want him to say that all the time, whether she says things in front of the camera
or not, because I don't want to spend another $2 trillion.
However, then he walks into another, the other side of the building and has a press
conference all ready to go with a pre-printed sign about what it's about.
And somehow they were able to print it.
They just predict in advance.
They print signs really quickly at the white house.
They've got a really good printing team.
And he's like, look, we're not going to do both of these things.
And, you know, these investigations have to stop.
And there's a part of me that thinks that this is just all, both of them playing to their basis.
Here's what President Trump had to say.
More quiet than that.
Well, it turns out I'm the most, and I think most of you would agree to this,
I'm the most transparent president, probably in the history of this country.
We have given on a witch hunt, on a hoax, the whole thing.
with Russia was a hoax as it relates to the Trump administration and myself. It was a total,
horrible thing that happened to our country. It hurt us in so many ways. Despite that,
we're setting records with the economy, with jobs, with the most people employed today that we've
ever had in the history of our country. We have the best unemployment numbers that we've had
in the history of our country, in some cases, 50.
51 years, but generally in the history of our country.
Companies are moving back in.
Things are going well.
And I said, let's have the meeting on infrastructure.
We'll get that done easily.
That's one of the easy ones.
And instead of walking in happily into a meeting,
I walk in to look at people that had just said that I was doing a cover-up.
I don't do cover-ups.
It doesn't do cover-ups.
So, look, done.
And so he doesn't want to go down this road, which is disappointing because I was on my way to work today.
Oh my gosh.
The collapsing bridges?
Did you?
Oh, you did?
Yeah, I got through the collapsing bridges.
However, I was driving on the highway and I noticed there's a large silver thing to my right, realize a train that had come off the track somewhere was just speeding down the highway.
I mean, so that's, that shouldn't happen.
No.
That's why we need these extra.
It's not good for the train and it's not good for the pavement.
No, it rips up the pavement.
Seriously.
Which is already ripped up.
A lot.
You can barely drive on it.
Yeah.
It's true.
Especially when all the bridges are collapsing around there.
Yeah.
It's a problem.
It's a problem.
Look, I have this weird thing, which is I'm concerned about the $20 to $30 trillion in debt we currently have in the $100 to $200 trillion of debt that are already scheduled and we have no way of paying for.
The idea that we're going to come out and spend an extra $2 trillion because we're,
afterwards, you know, Chuck and Nancy can have a bipartisan moment.
No, thank you. No, thank you.
And we can't even come up with a budget.
We haven't come up with a budget in 10 years.
There's not been a national budget since 2009.
We've got these continuing resolutions that run the country and operate our government.
And we can't even so much as sit down and decide what we're going to spend every year and try to spend just what we have.
there's no reason to be doing $2 trillion anything.
Really, we can't afford it.
We can't afford it.
And we're just putting all of this burden onto our children
and more likely our grandchildren and great-grandchildren
because you can't pay this debt.
You can't pay it.
I'm of the opinion.
I'm of the four-great school of thought,
which is anything past great, great-great-great-grand trillion.
They got to offend for themselves.
I'll care about my children and my grandchildren.
my great-grandchildren.
So we're talking third-grade?
I think third-grade I will care about.
When you're at great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren, look, figure it out.
I don't know.
You got a long time.
You know, do something for yourself, you know?
I mean, yes, I may, where am I spending money that probably they won't even pay back?
Sure.
Yes.
I mean, how responsible am I supposed to be?
How about this?
By that time, figure out how to live on another planet and go back to zero on the budget, okay?
I don't know.
Figure it out.
You got a lot of time there.
You know, we're talking four or five generations.
B, you've got to show a little ingenuity, you know?
And it's comforting to know that we've actually got people working on that.
We actually have people working on living on another planet.
Yeah.
Bezos is very excited about it.
Elon's in there.
Elon's, yeah, he's doing it.
Yeah, they're both in that world.
Rich Branson's in that world.
And NASA is apparently getting into that world.
They're talking about putting a permanent base on the moon so that they can,
eventually go to Mars and beyond and start all of these civilizations on other planets.
Now, would you spend $2 trillion on infrastructure on the moon?
And that's a whole other question.
I feel like that's something we could be, we could talk about.
I think we could get together on that, maybe.
Because I mean, if we could all just go, I mean, if we had like an Elysium type of situation
where at any point we can just kind of escape the Earth and there's some nice infrastructure
of there, maybe a high speed train or some sort to get around the craters.
Seems like in every movie there's high speed.
High-speed trains on Mars or the moon or wherever we happen to land.
I love that.
They were criticizing Trump.
He's like, oh, he really looks infrastructure.
What about the California train situation?
Are you still pushing for that?
Didn't the Democrat, didn't Gavin Newsom cancel it?
Yes, because it was way over budget.
Even Gavin Newsom said no to it.
This train thing drives me crazy.
I just don't understand why people are so infatuated with freaking trains.
Trains suck.
They suck.
I had to ride them.
every single day when we lived in New York.
And they blow.
They are terrible.
They have the situation in California where they were going to spend, it was initially
supposed to be like $1.5 billion.
And then initially it got up to $100 billion pretty quickly.
Now they've basically canceled it.
I see it.
That's only a hundred times more than it started out, though.
Right.
That's not that big of the deal.
I saw an article from, they're like, I think it was Japan or China?
I can't remember.
They're going to launch, in their middle of launching.
launching like this incredible new bullet train.
Like this bullet train is amazing.
You know what the headline said?
It approaches the speed of aircraft.
You already have aircraft.
Use the aircraft.
What do you mean it approaches this?
What is the benefit of a train that goes slower than planes?
Planes don't only have to go between two specifically designated areas.
This is the great thing about them.
Anywhere you put a freaking airport, a plane can land.
So if a new population center opens up in the middle of nowhere,
you can just change the plane.
The same day, you can say that day,
we're now taking this plane over there instead.
And it's going to go faster and have less problems than the train.
If it was a lot less expensive than the airfare,
you could almost understand it.
But it isn't.
It never is.
In some cases, it's more.
So I got to pay more to get there slower?
Right.
And I could only go to that one place.
$100 billion to take people from L.A. to, we had Sacramento or San Francisco, whatever it was,
and when they have 100 flights going back and forth anyway, and they're all ready, relatively
inexpensive. You're not going to save any money going on this train. You're just going to get there
in 10 times the amount of your life. It's going to cost you 10 times the amount of your life to get there,
and they're never going to build the thing anyway. And by the time it's done, it's going to be going
to some area where people are no longer living. I'm guessing you're not going.
going to be doing commercials for Amtrak.
Not a time soon.
No, no.
Right?
That's not happening.
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A little discrepancy in how much of the border wall has been built.
Now, yesterday we had a story that were 1.7 miles built.
1.7.
So we're almost there.
How long is the border?
Is it, what, two miles?
I think it's two and a half.
Maybe two and a half.
Just a little bit longer than that.
Okay.
It's like 2,000 miles.
Okay.
There is a two in it, though.
There is a two in it.
So you're pretty close.
So the White House yesterday said, and Sarah Sanders said that was not accurate.
And then the figure 20 miles came up.
Okay.
And then Sarah Sanders said none of those were accurate.
It's 100 miles.
And they're still on track for 500 by the end of the year.
If that's true, that's not bad.
I mean, that's, if they can do 500 miles this year,
of new border wall?
I think that'd be okay.
I mean, that's a good start.
I'm going to need an audit on that.
Yeah.
I'd like to see it, though.
We have heard a lot of claims,
and the administration has done this several times in which they've said,
repairing existing fence means new fence.
No, to me, that doesn't count.
No.
That's not what we're talking about.
The campaign promise wasn't, I'm going to repair the fence.
It's already there.
We're going to build a wall.
And look, you know, he can't do, I mean, you can't do it,
by himself. And right. And the Democrats are kicking and screaming and fighting him every step of the way.
Yeah. And I guess so far they've compiled all together about $6 billion for this and that'll pay for
supposedly four or 500 miles. So if they can do that, I'd be pretty happy with that as a good start.
Yeah, I'm not, you know, we've talked about this before. I'm not thrilled with the whole emergency thing.
So no, I'm not either. Funding. So, and I know you're not. But I mean, it is a huge concern as far as
what's going on on the border and addressing it is important.
And obviously, you're not going to get anything out of Chuck and Nancy.
You know, I mean, that would be an easy one, right?
Like, it's infrastructure.
This is a legitimate piece of our infrastructure that is crumbling.
Right.
Where they could go in and spend some money to protect the borders, and they don't want to do that.
They don't want to do that.
They, you know, they just want to make our airports have Wi-Fi.
And it's like, I, it's hard to take it seriously.
Yeah.
Well, what should be the priority?
I don't know.
Let's stop the flow of drugs.
and illegals.
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Our taxpayer dollars are being well spent.
I think you'll agree.
when we funneled them into the National Public Radio NPR.
I love the new guidelines that were published by NPR
on how we can properly use phrases
while reporting on the abortion debate.
I am fascinated by this.
There's a central sort of thing going on
where I've never noticed this before
and here it is happening.
Listen to this.
from the New York Times. I've mentioned this
of previous broadcasts.
The fetal heartbeat,
it is now a thing that is no longer
a thing. I mean, I
there's this argument that when does life
start? I don't know. When does it start? Well, okay, it starts
when the baby's born, or it starts at conception, or it starts at viability.
I think it's a cognitive ability.
32. I think you're really alive. Or if it's 32
years old. When you're 32. When you're 32. When you're 32.
Well, you can't be president yet.
So 35.
Let's call it.
35 years old is when life begins.
And there's been this debate that goes on for a long time.
And some people say it's, you know, when the heart starts beating, it's a pretty logical one, right?
Yeah.
We know when the heart stops beating, it's generally when we say there's no more life, right?
So to say, like, it's not the most insane pro-choice argument to say, until the heart is beating, it's not an abortion.
Right?
Like, it's not my position, but it's not.
the most extreme pro-choice argument to say that.
Yeah.
I think we both agree,
life begins at conception.
Yes.
However, like if you were to say,
okay, well,
you know what,
you got the first six weeks
until the heartbeat comes out.
Certainly that would cut down our abortions
dramatically.
It's what Alabama's basically trying to do.
But there's an indication of life
when you have a heartbeat.
Well, the heartbeat,
and that line has been part of the conversation
for a long time.
When does life begin?
Now we've come to a point
where the heartbeat
may not actually be a heartbeat.
Well, and this is fascinating.
They can't give that ground because if it's a heartbeat,
clearly that's life.
You've got a heart.
It's beating.
You're alive.
And that's certainly the strategy of people who are pro-life, right?
Yes.
Like, hey, recognize there's a life thing going on here, guys.
But it's also science.
Yeah.
It's also biology.
It's also reality.
Exactly.
So listen to this.
And we found this multiple times.
And we've been hitting it over the past few weeks.
weeks, and I had never noticed it before the past
couple of weeks. The new laws that
prohibit abortion as early as the sixth
week of pregnancy have been called
quote, heartbeat,
end quote, legislation by
supporters. Now, there you could
say maybe they're just referring to the name of the bill.
That's why they put it in quotes. Now, I've seen
several previous articles that
we've brought up on the program and on the news and
White Matters and other shows that
it's not just when they're referring to the name of the
legislation. They're saying, like, it's a reference to the
fetal, quote unquote, heartbeat. And it's like,
What else is it?
Like, what are you saying it is?
The New York Times has attempted the explanation here today.
And I think you're going to appreciate this.
All right.
It's a quote unquote heartbeat, a reference to the flickering pulse that can be seen on ultrasound images of a developing embryo.
Oh, the flickering pulse.
Okay.
Now, my thought was, do you, I mean, do you think it's a strobe light?
Like, what is it exactly?
It's like E.T's heart light.
Right.
It could be that.
Turn on your heart light.
It could be one of those lights that when you, you know,
you're in a boat and if you put it in water it starts flashing like you know to get people's
attention like one of those marine strobe lights could be that uh it could be a a rave going on
inside the womb oh perhaps there's a party and there's their glow sticks and there's flashing
lights from a club it's not a flickering pulse it is a heartbeat this is not something that was
again we're told we're the ones that are anti-science and they're telling us a heartbeat is a
flickering pulse what the hell is a flickering pulse what the hell is a flickering
pulse. It's not a flickering pulse. It is the beat of a heart as it's developing.
And we've seen this now in utterly amazing form when the abortion procedures and terminology and rights are discussed by NPR that you brought up.
I am blown away reading this. Again, there are certain levels.
of denial we can get into, right?
You can get, like, when you're watching a movie with a crazy plot, you have to go into
that, you have to, you have to, like, take that break from reality.
And you have to kind of accept, well, yeah, some people can fly.
Some people can shoot lasers out of their eyes.
Sometimes there are giant monsters going out of the sea.
And obviously, I know Godzilla's real, but I'm saying, generally speaking, these things
aren't real.
And there's that suspension of disbelief that you have to have.
Reading this NPR guideline, I'm almost to the Godzilla level with it.
It's so unbelievable.
We'll give you the details of it in 60 seconds.
Pat and Stu for Glenn on the Glenn Beck program.
So NPR has some new guidelines for what their hosts call certain abortion terms.
Now, this is what they say.
They say, one thing to keep in mind about this law and others like it,
proponents refer to it as a, quote, fetal heartbeat law.
that is their term.
It needs to be attributed to them if used and putting quotation marks if printed.
So this is actually sort of explaining this confusion I've had.
They're just because the heartbeat is part of the name of the bill,
they're acting as if it's a concept not understood by science.
Like it's a heartbeat, well, that's what they're calling it.
But I mean, they're calling it that because it's accurate, right?
They're not calling it.
I mean, yes, it does make a powerful point about life.
It does.
and it is a reason
and part of the reason
they're doing it is to convince people
hey this thing that you think
you're quote unquote aborting
is just life that you're ending
you know I mean that that is
part of the reason
they're targeting the heartbeat
but it's like it's in a way
a moment of
of coming together
I mean I want zero abortions
zero okay I don't want it to be legal
you know when they say hey
this new law you're passing
is just a Trojan horse
for getting rid of abortion.
It's not a Trojan horse.
I'm telling you.
It's right there.
That's part of the plan.
I want that to be the future.
And we'll get there.
However, in a way, it's a compromise from the right.
Like someone who thinks, hey, this is life in your ending life.
You're probably saying that I'll give you six weeks isn't the ideal position, right?
You want life that begins at conception.
You want it to go to the end of the pregnancy.
However, it's six weeks.
But it's a really good step in the right direction.
a really good line. It makes sense. If you're a Democrat,
you can say, okay, well, look, I mean, think
about this in the way we actually talk about abortion.
A woman has
unprotected sex or gets pregnant
in some, in some fashion,
and realizes they've made a mistake,
then, you know,
wants to abort their baby. Well, this gives them
six weeks to do that, and they keep saying, well, they don't even
know if they're pregnant. Well, they have morning after pills
for a reason. Like, this is, when you
make a mistake like that, if something happens
that you, I shouldn't have done that, that was
a mistake. I can't have a baby right now.
That's why they have the morning after pill.
We've talked about this before in that like, in a sensible world,
the left wing position is the morning after pill.
Right? In a, in a world, now look, I think there should be no abortion at all.
But like in a sensible world with debate, it wouldn't be nine months or right after birth,
you could still abort the kid.
It would be, all right, look, if you made a mistake, before we even know that you're
pregnant, you have a chance to stop whatever's going on.
And we won't even know if there was, if anything even happened.
Right? We don't even know if the person was pregnant. We wouldn't even know.
It's like the blind firing squad, right? Like where, you know, there's like 25 people, the guys got the blindfold on and there's like 25 people with guns and no one knows who's shooting the real bullet in the blank. Right? It's like that sort of concept. And it's like, I'm not saying that's a good position. I'm just saying like that would be a position that would be, should be extreme in our society.
Right. Like it's, you know, but it's not. It's like the, it's the very beginning of the pro choice argument.
So you'd think that there'd be some room for something like that.
But that is part of the reason they do it.
They go on to abortion procedures and terminology.
And I mean, listen to this.
Partial birth is not a medical term and has no exact parallel in medical terminology.
Intact dilation and extraction is the closest description.
Now, of course, that doesn't...
Extraction.
Right, extraction.
Right.
Now, that sounds like a doctor term.
And that's why partial birth abortion.
exists because what it does is it describes what's going on and they don't like that.
Also, it is not correct.
This I thought was interesting, the one point to the side of maybe the pro-life argument in this piece.
Also, it is not correct to call these procedures rare.
It is not known how often they are performed.
Then they're talking about what we would call partial birth abortion.
They always say that's rare.
You know, I get this from pro-choice people from time to time.
Like, well, I mean, come on.
It's, what is it?
1% of abortions, 2% of abortions are late term.
We keep talking about that.
Yeah, I guess we shouldn't talk about the 7 or 8, 9-11s that happen every year.
Because that's basically what we're talking about when we talk about like 9, you know, third term, late-term abortions, 9th month abortions.
Some of these partial birth procedures, which they, you know, sometimes are earlier than 9 months.
But still, like, we're talking about tens of thousands of babies that could have, you know, could be born.
and are viable and could be, you know, many people are, you know, many babies are born and live at that point.
And NPR doesn't want you to use the late-term abortion term either.
No, that's bad.
Well, it carries ideological baggage, Stu.
And we don't want the ideological baggage of late-term abortion.
Unbelievable.
I mean, this is so partisan.
This is so biased.
Yeah, I love this part.
This is fantastic.
Because we're talking about the, you know, partial birth abortion and gives an impression that abortion takes place in the eighth or ninth month.
In fact, the procedure called intact dilation and extraction is performed most often in the fifth or sixth month, the second trimester, which, by the way, is still overwhelmingly unpopular with the American people.
The second trimester is not considered late pregnancy.
Thus late term is not appropriate.
As an alternative, and let this roll off your tongue, Pat, because I think you do.
Okay.
If you're going to say, hey, they're talking about late term abortions and said, say, as an alternative, they're talking about.
a certain procedure performed after the first trimester of pregnancy and subsequently the procedure
and then give the technical name.
Instead of late term, they want you to use, this is a quote, call it a certain procedure
performed after the first trimester of pregnancy.
Why can you say what trimester is only after the first one?
And subsequently, then say the actual name of the procedure.
They also will not use the term abortion clinics.
they say medical or health clinics that perform abortions.
I mean, if that's not spin, I don't know what is.
No one, no one's disagreeing with the medical or health part of it.
No one's saying, oh, we are against sonograms.
You know, like, there's no one saying that.
The point is not to use abortion before the word clinic.
The clinics perform other procedures and not just abortions.
Well, you know, I mean, I think if you say, you know,
McDonald's is a hamburger restaurant, yes, they also do serve egg McMuffins, right?
They do serve salads, though to call it a salad restaurant would be wrong, right?
They don't seem to have a problem with that.
It's also wrong to say George Tiller, the murdered abortion doctor, don't call them an abortion doctor.
Instead, we should say Tiller operated a clinic where abortions are performed.
And this one is, I think, the most clear example of bias.
The term unborn implies that there is a baby inside a pregnant woman, not a fetus.
babies are not babies until they are born.
This is all quoting.
Wow.
They're fetuses.
Incorrectly calling a fetus a baby or the unborn is part of the strategy used by anti-abortion groups to shift the language, legality, and public opinion.
Wow.
And then finally, this is amazing because this one may even be more direct.
On the air, we should use abortion rights supporter or advocates.
Okay.
So if someone is on the pro-choice side, they are abortion rights supporters or advocates.
And you could say abortion rights opponents.
However, it is acceptable to use anti-abortion rights, but don't use pro-abortion rights.
You can use anti-abortion rights.
So someone who's on pro-life side is against rights.
Yeah.
But you can't say pro-abortion rights.
Now, if you were so proud of the right that you're talking about, why wouldn't you want to use?
pro-abortion rights.
I mean, these are direct anti-abortion rights and pro-abortion rights.
You can use one but not the other.
Like, that is a clear example of how they want to do everything they can to control the
language and win the argument.
This whole guideline could have been written by Planned Parenthood.
Yeah.
Might as well have been.
With the exception of saying that late-term abortions are rare.
We actually have no freaking idea if they're rare or not, which is an amazing admission
from NPR, by the way.
Yeah, it is.
Triple-8-7-27-B-E-C-K.
Of course, Ilan Omar understands where we're coming from on the right.
She sees right through us.
Her eyes pierce our armor of disguise.
Yeah, we are so transparent under her steely gaze.
Frightening, really.
It's frightening.
I feel so vulnerable now.
Here she is from the house floor talking about the religious right and our pro-life view.
points. Religious fundamentalists are currently trying to manipulate state laws in order to impose
their beliefs on an entire society, all with complete disregard for voices and the rights of
American women. There's something, it's interesting. There's something with Ilan Amar,
and that she is never saying these things without reading them. Like she, every speech,
I've seen of her where she's making these controversial statements as you're about to hear,
she's always just reading it word for word. She can't take her eyes off of the, and many times
reading it wrong. I mean, what was the, what was the, oh, the Iran-Cortra affair? Remember that?
Oh, yeah.
The whole situation? The Iran-Cortra affair. I mean, someone with absolutely no knowledge of the topic
she's speaking of. That's an, but she's always reading it. I mean, obviously someone's writing
these things for her. Many times she's reading it for the first time in front of people.
And that's why a lot of times she's...
She doesn't seem to know what the words are. She doesn't know what the references are.
Yeah.
There's a weird thing going on with her in particular.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez speaking off the top of her head a lot.
And that's what leads to her, you know, continuous mistakes.
Omar is always reading things, not just notes, word for word, staring at the paper the
entire time this is going on to give you the,
the mental picture here.
All right, go ahead.
The recent efforts,
like those in Alabama,
in Georgia,
are only the latest
in a long history of efforts
to criminalize women's women
for simply existing.
Women's women.
To punish us when we don't conform
to their attempts to control us.
This is asinine.
But because it's happening here
with the support of the ultra-conservative
religious right, we call it religious freedom.
It's simply unthinkable.
Let's just be honest.
Okay, be honest.
For the religious right, this isn't simply about their care or concerned for life.
How many syllables are it simply?
If they cared about...
17.
Or were concerned about children, they would be concerned about the children that are being detained.
Detained.
And those that are dying.
Dying.
in camps across our border.
This is it, okay, let's stop for a second.
Across our border.
This is an interesting point.
Now, Pat, I remember when in 2014, I believe it was, Barack Obama, president of the
United States, you took a little trip to the border.
Do you remember what you did there?
Was it to build new camps?
No, it wasn't.
It was out of concern for the kids that were at the border, and we brought them
Christmas presents.
Yeah.
And when you build a wall and you increase border security, what is your intent with
something. I mean, guys, I know it's racism, but other than racism, what is your intent? Would it be to
stop people from entering a place in which they could be detained by law? Yes, that seems
pretty logical. Yeah. It seems like if you were to build a wall and secure the border,
you would have no problems at all with children coming across the border and dying. There'd be a lot
less of them. Yeah. Yeah. There'd be hopefully none. If, you know, obviously, nothing can be
perfect, but there'd be as few as possible. Yes. So do you care about children? They actually do. Yeah.
Yeah, they kind of do.
Yeah, I do.
Yeah.
And we, we, that's pretty central to the entire thing on both issues, by the way.
Yes.
I mean, you know, how the compassionate part of the border has become, oh, let them all come over here and run through the deserts with no water.
Aesonite.
It is an asinine, you know, it is the exact reverse of what is real.
And it's like saying babies aren't babies.
And encouraging it is bringing more people across the border who die in the deserts.
of Arizona, Texas, and New Mexico.
That's not the compassionate thing to do.
Pat and Stu on the Glenn Beck program.
Glenn's back on Tuesday because we're heading into a three-day weekend here with Memorial Day,
which is really nice.
And because you've had a brutal three-day week here, Stu.
Well, and three-day week last week, too.
And last week.
So it's been...
Now, next week you're doing a full four-day week.
Yeah, which I'm not happy about.
You shouldn't be.
Yeah.
I don't know how you do it.
I really don't know how you do it.
It's basically sacrificed for the American people.
I just put the American people above myself.
And you give. And you give.
It's just something that I do.
You know, people, am I a hero?
Yes.
But.
So you would say yes.
I would say yes if asked.
I was not asked if I was a hero.
But I would say yes, if asked.
I'm just trying to be clear for the American people.
And of course, when you're here for four days.
And of course, you're a Canadian sports celebrity is.
well as a hero.
So that's, I mean, that's a lot.
That's a lot.
That's me.
It is you.
Are you, I think, I think most people are now familiar with the Babylon B, right?
Have you and Glenn talked about it much?
Yeah, yeah.
They've done some really funny articles.
Kind of like, I always say almost like a conservative onion in a way.
That's a really good description of it.
Okay.
And like the other day they did this thing about a gay man who went to Chick-fil-A, took one bite of the sandwich, and instantly became straight.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then he went to Burger King and it changed him back.
But really funny stuff and really well written.
Yeah, they do a good job.
Yeah.
And I will say, too, I feel like when they first burst out of the scene, I remember thinking,
eh, you know, some of them were okay, but it was a lot of hit or missed up lately.
It's been...
The last couple of years, honestly, they have been all over it.
Yeah.
And impressive.
They have a great one out about the abortion thing going on today.
It's titled, Pregnibank.
Cases
Abortions
save lives.
Pregnancy is a
life-threatening condition.
Oh, wow.
Women die from being pregnant.
We have known that for thousands of years.
Pregnancy is dangerous.
Abortion can be life-saving.
Alabama's new law claims that it does not
prohibit abortion if there is a reasonable
medical judgment that the pregnancy
poses a serious health risk to the woman.
But pregnancy itself poses a serious health
risk, including the risk of dying and losing all bodily functions.
A woman's life and health are at risk from the moment that a pregnancy exists in her body,
whether she wants to be pregnant or not.
Maybe all of this is moot.
Perhaps the goal of the Alabama law, in addition to a triggering a legal challenge to Roe v.
Wade, maybe to discourage doctors from even practicing medicine in the state,
lest they be accused of performing an illegal abortion and sentenced to prison for the rest of their lives.
perhaps the vagueness of the law and the confusion is the point.
Vagerness and confusion are tools of tyranny.
The intent of the Alabama legislature and its new law is clearly to prohibit and prevent abortions from being performed.
But does it?
This particular Babylon B story is less funny than it is outrageous.
Yeah, the concept is funny.
There are a laugh lines in there.
Right.
Partially that could be because it's not from the Babylon B.
it's a serious column written in the New York Times.
That's amazing.
Pregnancy kills, abortion saves lives is the freaking headline.
Now, as bizarre as this is, because like you can make this argument about anything.
For example, should you ever eat food?
Eating food kills.
Because we know you're much more likely to choke on solid food than a drink.
So why are we not all having protein shakes all the time?
Plus, how many people get heart disease from the food they eat?
Thank you.
Millions.
Millions.
Diabetes.
Diabetes.
I was trying to think of the way that Wilford Brimley does it.
Diabetes.
Diabetes is caused this way.
Right?
I mean, getting in a car, right?
It kills.
It doesn't do anything good.
It just kills.
It's a ridiculous way of looking at it.
But the stunning thing about this is if you've ever taken the time to actually read the
row versus weight decision.
This is their justification for it.
This exact column.
What they are saying in row versus weight,
it's spelled out directly.
You are more likely to die
when you get pregnant than when you have an abortion.
The abortion is something that,
and this is, look, by the way,
somebody always dies during an abortion.
Yeah, 100%.
The baby who's being aborted.
Unless they fail and then they just let them die on the table.
That's a little bit of a difference.
Right.
But yeah, you're right.
Always.
It's got to be 99.9.5%.
of the time. Right. I mean, this, this line is, it's incredible. You know, pregnancy itself proposes a serious health risk, including the risk of dying and losing all bodily functions. You mean like the baby every single time in an abortion? Like every single one of these, the desire of the procedure is to make all bodily functions stop. That's the, that's the intent. The intent of a pregnancy is not to do that to a woman. Obviously, we know, and it's much, much better than it used to be.
But it does occasionally.
A woman does die in pregnancy.
It used to be really high, the percentages,
and we've come a long, long way in stopping that from occurring.
But the idea that that is something that is an argument for abortion is completely upside down,
but also the central reasoning of Roe versus Wade.
That's what they said.
Now, at some point, there may be a reversal of that, right?
Would they would then, would then the left, would this abortion doctor happily give up
abortion rights at that point. If we get to a point where, you know what, childbirth is now,
there's no deaths from childbirth, but there's still deaths from abortion. Would they then say
that abortion should go away? My guess is no. No. Because it's got nothing to do with what they're
saying. It's a lie. It's as big a lie as anything in the Babylon B, which is intentionally telling
you it's a lie. It's a satire site. But this is a real article. This is the stuff. I mean,
we talk about this all the time, Pat. There was a time in which, and they still exist,
pro-choice people had what amounted to seemingly sensible arguments and rational positions
from the idea that at least they seemed like nice people.
They seemed like people who were like not denying reality.
They just, you know, look, they had a different opinion or whatever.
We are now to the point where we're talking about abortions at nine months.
We're talking about, you know, abortion is a lifesaver.
Again, like the intent of it is to end a life.
How can it be a lifesaver?
it's one of these things where we've gone so far in this debate that Roe versus Wade seems like
something some mythical like artifact from the past a move to Roe versus Wade is a move to the
right we talk about overturning Roe versus Wade if we could get back to Roe versus Wade it would
be a massive improvement from where we are right now massive and we talked about this yesterday
on the news and why it matters as well but this idea that the debate is now occurring in the
ninth month, the third trimester, even the second trimester, which abortions are overwhelmingly
unpopular in the second trimester and third trimester. But from all American people, not just
Republicans. The idea that that's where the debate is shows how extreme this has become.
This is straight out denial. We're putting quotes around the word heartbeat. We're calling it a
flickering pulse. This is insanity. There's no connection to reality anymore when it comes to
this stuff. Well, the left have become science deniers.
They used to accuse us of that all the time because of the climate change thing.
And they do nothing but deny science now.
Nothing about.
In the abortion debate, they deny science.
In the gender debate, they deny science.
They're just not about science anymore.
They're just thrown that flesh shot completely down the toilet now.
Yeah.
I mean, Glenn's last book, Addiction Addicted to Outrage, had a big part about it about post-Modom.
And a lot of it feels like, you know, look at some dumb thing that some college professor, you know, is teaching some 20 year old who comes out and thinks they're really smart, right? Like it stinks of that. But it's so central to what's going on now.
It is. Words that mean things no longer mean things. The heartbeat is not a, it's not a, there's not a disagreement about what a heartbeat is. Yet now we have to put quotes around it. We have to, I don't know. Is it a flickering pulse or is it a heartbeat? Is it a baby or is it a
fetus. Like, a fetus is just a stage a baby is in. That's it. That's what it is. It's not
it's not, again, it doesn't turn into broccoli. It doesn't turn into a radish. It doesn't turn
into a Volkswagen. You know, it is, it is, we all know it's just a stage of life is what a fetus is.
It's what an embryo is. It's what a baby is. It's what a human is. It's what an adult is. It's what a
child is. It's what a teenager is. It's what all these things are. They're stages of a life.
and the idea that now we have
they're like
I would love to know
the NPR guide says don't use
a baby a baby isn't a baby until it's born
how many times has NPR
referred to a baby bump
how many times has NPR
you know
she's having a baby
how do we know
if it's just the thing is
how do we know
she's having a baby we don't know
you're speculating there
who knows what it turns out to me
could be a glow stick
It could be a rudabega.
Some kind of pulsating light in there.
It could be, you know, there's a new sequel coming out to Men and Black.
It could be those men and black things going off.
The flashes that make everybody lose their memory.
Maybe that's just constantly happening on a beat all the time inside the womb.
Because there is a flickering pulse going on.
We used to understand what that was.
I know when we went through, really my wife did most of the work here,
but childbirth twice,
I remember the expert
who worked at the place
where the baby doctors work
telling us, hey, there's the heartbeat.
Can you hear the heartbeat?
They've never called it a flickering pulse.
Can you hear the flickering pulse?
Not ever has a doctor said,
see that flickering pulse?
Yeah, that's your fetus.
That's your fetus.
They don't say that either.
They say that's your baby.
And it's not, that's a doctor saying that.
That's not just the right wing
you know, extremist.
This is what doctors know.
Just a crazy argument.
We all know this.
We all know this. It's just crazy.
And like it's just, I can't get over the fact
that instead of trying to justify
these ridiculous positions, they just act
as if they're correct.
Like, wow, it's just a flickering pulse. What are you talking about?
Of course it's a flickering pulse. It's science.
What do you mean? It's science.
It's not a flickering pulse.
It is a heartbeat. We all know
it's a heartbeat. And the
reason you won't admit it's a heartbeat is because you
a different agenda. You want to protect abortion at all costs. It is an absolute religious
tenant at this point. You can't, it has. It is. Abortion is a religion. It is. Two to the left.
And it's a dark one, man. Yeah. That is a dark freaking, that is like the guys in the Temple of Doom.
You know, they're down in a cave somewhere ripping hearts out of people. That's the kind of religion it is.
You mean flickering pulses?
ripping flickering pulses out of people.
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Let's go to Robert in California.
Hey, Robert.
You're on the Glenn Beck program.
Hey, morning, gentlemen.
How are you doing?
Doing good.
You really concerned, or you're just making small talk?
Kind of both.
Your last segment wanted me to go down a couple of rabbit holes,
but I'll try to get straight to the point.
Okay.
If you're legally dead when your brain activity stops and they can pull the plug, why can't you defeat any arguments based on religion or anything else and say you're legally alive when the brain activity starts?
It just so happens.
If you do the research, it's about 42 to 45 days after conception, six weeks.
So the heartbeat and the brain activity kind of the same.
So it takes the emotions out of it.
It actually solves some problems.
and some politicians might be out of a job because you're actually solving issues.
And this goes back, it's an interesting point, Robert,
and this goes back to what we were talking about,
about how far the debate has moved.
I have a friend of mine who's a pro-choice and a guy I really like,
and he was like, well, you know, look, I don't agree with you on this,
and he said, you know, I think it's a time, it's cognitive.
When cognitive activities begin is when I would say life begins.
And as the caller points out, I've heard six weeks,
I've heard 10 weeks for that, but it's very early in the pregnancy where that actually begins.
And it's interesting in that, like, people who now consider themselves to be pro-choice
are making arguments far more extreme than 90% of Republicans are making.
Because Republicans are trying to ban it at 20 weeks in most states.
Alabama's an exception.
Most of them are 20 weeks, but the Alabama six weeks law basically lines up with my friend
who considers himself pro-choice.
It's amazing.
It really is amazing how far this has moved.
It is.
And there's, I think, six states now that have heartbeat pills.
And then two others that have limited to, like, early in the second trimester.
Utah and Arkansas, limited abortion.
I mean, that's just a really tiny little baby step, pun intended.
A little baby step there to just take it out of the third trimester into the second trimester.
but the really impressive heartbeat bills and then in Alabama's case the almost total ban on abortion
is really bold and has pushed this is push this debate back into the public forum and that's
why we're able to talk about it again on such a regular basis and that's why the Democrats
are so the left is just out of their mind on this because we're engaged again we're activated again
And we haven't been activated like this on on abortion for a really long time.
I mean, we've been talking about it a little bit.
But this is a, it's a different level now.
We're at a completely different level.
And again, like it's one of those debates that's uncomfortable to have.
It's an uncomfortable conversation.
But, you know, maybe it's worth an uncomfortable conversation when you're talking about
62 million people that should be alive that aren't.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Some people think that's important.
Yeah.
It seems like it's worth it.
Yeah.
It seems like it's worth it.
And as far as women's rights.
about half of them are a little bit slightly more.
Would have been women had they been allowed to be born.
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We're going to be speaking with Mark Levin about his new book,
On Freedom of the Press.
Joining us now is Mark Levine.
from the, of course, nationally syndicated radio show, from Blaze TV, from Levin TV,
and his new book is Unfreedom of the Press. Mark, welcome.
Pat, how are you, my friend?
Doing well, thanks.
You know, this book couldn't be any more timely, especially with the news of NPR coming out with their new abortion language.
Pretty amazing.
Well, basically, what I've tried to do with this book, I wasn't going to write about the press,
but it's kind of in your face every day.
So they keep claiming they represent freedom of the press, so I decided to take a look.
And so I looked at the history of the press.
And I looked how it's cycled through throughout the decades and the various transitions it's gone through.
And I just want the public to know you feel this, but when you look at the history of the president,
this is the lowest point the media has ever been in.
I call it the mass media.
The mass media is different than a free press.
Free press is something that belongs to us.
It's in the First Amendment.
This is what the founders fought for.
They didn't fight for Comcast or Times Warner.
They didn't fight for these guys.
Now, these guys are free to do what they want.
Nobody's saying, you know, the government can interfere,
and the government's not, neither is the president.
But we need to be honest about who they are and what they're doing.
So what I do is I lay out early in the book,
who they are and what they're doing.
You look at the incestuous relationship between the Democrat Party and the media.
I mean, it's overwhelming.
people who've moved between the party and administrations into the media and back and forth, family members.
You look at where they live, the vast majority of live in and around Washington, D.C. and New York,
these are hard blue communities.
They socialize with each other.
They party with each other.
There's almost no diversity in newsrooms in terms of a thinking process.
There's no independent thought in these newsrooms, and you can see it.
And survey after survey, poll after poll, of them will tell you, they're not,
There's nobody, no newsroom, really.
Major news from that's right of center or center.
They're all pretty much the same.
That's why we put these montages together, I'm sure you guys, too,
where they're all saying the same thing, every news platform.
There's a reason for that, because it's group think.
It's a pack mentality, but it's even worse than it's ever been.
I'll tell you why.
They push progressivism, and that's been going on really off and on for about 100 years,
but now they're social activists.
That's new in the last 20 or 30 years.
So you have these young and younger so-called journalists who come in, and they're being taught this.
There's a number of journalism schools and professors who have pushed this philosophy.
They say, hey, look, the civil rights movement, the right to vote, Obamacare, all these things would not have happened, but for the progressive ideology.
So you wash the news through the progressive ideology, you interpret it, you analyze it, you promote it, that's what we need to do.
and that is what they're doing.
So they're actually creating events
and then reporting on these events.
I have people call my show and they say,
why won't the media admit they were wrong for two and a half years on Russia collusion?
And I said, wrong.
They're participants.
In other words,
who do you think these people were leaking to it, the FBI?
And these security agencies and so forth.
They're leaking to the New York Times and CNN and the Washington Post.
They're not going to apologize.
They're on a mission.
And so I walked through the,
book, I go through these different issues.
I have a chapter on
news, propaganda, and pseudo
events.
Early on, propaganda is during the
during the Woodrow Wilson
administration, pseudo
events, you know, Trump calls them fake news,
he's right, and
a brilliant man, he was a former
historian University of Chicago, was head of
the Library Congress, Bornston.
wrote a whole book on pseudo events, and he says
most news is about
pseudo events. What you see on
TV is mostly unreality. It has nothing to do with your life. And this is a big problem,
particularly in a republic that's relatively free. That means that the press isn't giving us
information that we can use in our lives. It's not giving us information. Legitimate information
about the government so we can hold it in check. It's pushing an agenda. And that's why there's
not a dime's worth of a difference between the agenda of the Democrat Party and the agenda of
the media, the agenda of the media. And I also point out, in one of the times, in one of the
chapters called collusion, abuse of power, and character. These are the areas they hit Trump
on. And look at American history. There have been presidents and others who've colluded with
foreign governments. This one hasn't. They've been presidents who have literally abused power,
who've shut down newspapers, who've locked up journalists, who've used the IRS against their
political opponents, FBI, CIA, recent presidents, like Kennedy, like Lyndon Johnson, among them.
Now, that's an abuse of power. Trump has never done anything like that. You're talking about
about character. They have to keep talking about Stormy
Daniels and non-disclosure agreements.
Since he's been president in the Oval
Office, has there been a whisper
of a scandal? No.
And yet we are presidents who had women coming
and going left and right, interns, all
kinds of things. That's
not Trump. So there's this
unreality we're being fed. They're pushing
this agenda. There was no
Russia collusion. Then they push obstruction.
Then they push constitutional crisis. Now they're
pushing impeachment. I
just feel like Thomas Payne. You know, I think
back to that period. Glenn does this a lot too.
We had the early pamphleteers and the colonists, and they spoke to each other, and they
informed each other. We need to do that. We need to do a hell of a lot more of that.
So I view this book on Freedom of the Press really as a modern-day pamphlet, and I want
people I hope to read it, to pass it along, to discuss it. But here's the good news in a sick
kind of way. A lot of these companies are going out of business. CNN has no ratings.
You can't have no ratings forever.
The New York Times was going broke
until this billionaire from Mexico
telecommunications banked bought 17 or 20% of their stock.
Bezos bought the Washington Post,
which was gone bankrupt,
for the quarter of a billion dollars.
It's not just technology, although that's crucial,
that's changing the landscape.
They're changing the landscape
because people are turning them off.
They have options.
You know, they have us, Blaze TV,
they have our radio programs,
but you also have other things on the Internet,
I know people trash the internet.
I don't trash the internet.
There are, you know, they're perverts and reprobates and evil people everywhere, including on the internet.
You've got to be careful about what you're probably in your community, you know,
so you've got to be careful of who you hang out with and careful of what you look at.
But I view a lot of this as the new pamphleteers, the competition that's coming.
And I think there's going to be future technologies, platforms we haven't even thought of yet,
that will again create new and better competition.
So I have a strong belief in freedom of the press, and I have a very negative view of the modern media today.
Talking to Mark Levin, the book is Unfreedom of the Press.
Mark, I know you're short on time here, but before you go, is you have this kind of transformation from a journalist to activist you talked about.
You talk about how it's sort of falling apart for the mainstream media.
Is that why it's getting so much worse?
Is there sort of like a desperation they're seeing their power go away, and that's why they're acting out even in more extreme ways than earlier?
I think that's why they're gone after Trump.
They figured they had this in the bag.
They pushed Hillary.
They were trashing him.
And they lost.
And they're trying to fix it from their perspective.
Okay.
Just because 63 million Americans voted from doesn't mean we can't disenfranchise them.
And so that's one of the things that drives these people nuts.
But you raise another point that's very, very important.
The mixture of news and opinion.
And that's really the key problem here.
In 1942, there was a report put out by the media about the media.
they warned about this. They said, we're going to lose the faith and trust of our viewers and our
listeners. If we keep doing this, we have the ability to destroy people, we have the ability to
be positive. We have the ability to lie. We have the ability to tell the truth. And if we're
going to combine fact with fiction, news with opinion, we're going to destroy our credibility.
Well, they've destroyed their credibility because 80% of Republicans do not believe the media.
80% of Democrats do. And so you want to throw in with a political
party, that's fine. The dishonesty
of this is, you know, about
1780 to about 1860, we had the political
party press where the press lined up with one party
or candidate or viewpoint or another,
and they were very transparent about it.
It was brutal, but they were transparent.
Today, we have the party
press, the Democrat Party press,
a one-party press. And that's
why they keep looping through
Adam Schiff or Nadler. They bring guests
on, politicians on,
professors on, so-called experts on,
who really mimic their own viewpoints.
Mark, we know your press for time.
Congratulations on the success of this book.
It's already number one.
And you've obviously pissed off Brian Stelter at CNN,
so you've done something incredibly right.
It doesn't take much.
Thanks a lot for being here.
It's Unfreedom of the Press by Mark Levine.
Thanks, Mark.
Thank you, guys. God bless.
Great stuff.
Great stuff.
And I wanted to ask him, but we don't.
didn't have time about the
convention of states. Oh yeah.
Which he kicked into gear back in, what was
that, 2013 or 14-ish?
Doesn't seem like that long ago. Fifteen states
are on board now. That's great.
So... That is moving along well. Yeah, it is.
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Is Israel practicing some new crowd control methods that maybe we could learn from?
Well, there's a big, there's a lot of developments in the Middle East that
there's supposedly a new plan of 10,000 troops, 5 to 10,000 troops to be sent to the area of Iran.
And they're talking about it.
The reporting is strange on it because they're treating it like it's a real story.
But then they're saying it's going to be proposed today, which kind of signals to me.
It's not, you know, probably.
It's not decided yet.
Yeah, exactly.
Although, we're certainly stepping up our game with Iran as of late.
And, you know, I don't think anyone wants to go to war with Iran.
I mean, Trump especially, I mean, he was a guy who ran really as probably the most, you know, anti-international involvement Republican that at least I can remember.
I mean, it goes back along.
It was my lifetime for sure, I think.
Which I like, by the way.
I'm kind of tired of being the police of the world.
Yeah, it sucks.
Getting involved, especially in Middle Eastern nation building, regime change in nation building.
It doesn't work out.
They don't have the same.
mindset and mentality and love for freedom that we do. They've got a different sort of system
over there and they like their system. And when you replace the leaders that they have,
usually you're replacing them with somebody worse. So it just doesn't work out that well.
You know, it's part it's, and I don't, Trump kind of comes at this from a different
perspective, but it's consistent with the libertarian argument on war, which is basically
we as governments suck at everything and war is included in that.
I mean, that's the libertarian analysis, basically.
Like, and the same thing that happens, I think, to, you know,
I don't always agree with libertarians on, you know, matters of law and order sort of policing.
But it's the same sort of argument.
Like, we are not good at doing things through the government.
You know, the, you know, international war is something we try to do through the government.
We don't do it the right way.
We don't use the right process.
And when we get in there, we screw it up because it's not even, we act sometimes as if these things are like easy things that we're messing up
because we're incompetent.
Well, they're hard to do.
Well, we just had...
Was it a senator that said two strikes and it's over in a war with Iran?
Oh, come on.
That's just ridiculous.
Nonsense.
I mean, look, that's not going to be an easy one.
And I don't want to go near it.
Honestly, that's going to be...
You would think, much more difficult than Afghanistan or Iraq.
I mean, they're much more developed society.
I would think so, yeah.
A lot more people.
It's dangerous.
And war isn't fought the way it was in World War II anymore.
It's just not.
and we wouldn't fight it that way.
If we fought it that way, you know,
maybe you could get a good resolution
in a reasonably...
A quicker resolution at the very least.
But we all know it would be a terrible resolution, right?
We're talking about probably hundreds of thousands of people.
Many of them innocent Iranians who don't support the regime at all.
I mean, it's not very popular there.
You know, there's just no way.
There's no way to make this work.
And that's kind of, you know, I think we're both of us have landed over the years.
It's like I supported the...
Iraq war back in the day. I mean, I certainly believed there was weapons of mass destruction
there and we know how that story all played out. But I over the years have come, not necessarily
because of that war teaching me some lesson. It's really more about understanding the capabilities
of human beings. And especially when they gather in government. Human beings are capable of many
amazing things. And obviously, our troops do incredible things when they are put into war. But managing that
war is a central, is an exercise in central planning.
And we know as conservatives, that exercises in central planning don't work out that well
that often.
Now, there's another big sort of flare up in the Middle East as well, this one in Israel,
where ultra-Orthodox Jews have been protesting all over Israel.
And many Israelis are complaining that they're causing disruptions to commerce.
They're stopping traffic.
They're doing all sorts of things.
things that are. Do we know what they're upset about?
Yeah, let's see.
Let's see if again, I read this earlier or no.
The actual protests, I don't know if it's in this article or not.
I might have been another one.
I'm not sure, but I think the real focus here.
They're a nuisance.
Well, yes, at least people there say that they're a nuisance.
Yeah, they're like, yeah, look, we're trying to drive home and we can't.
There was a situation many years ago, and this happens all over the place.
but when people will protest about their job situation or the environment or whatever,
and they'll walk out into the middle of a busy road and stop traffic.
And I always think to myself, like, how can this work?
Right?
Like, if you're trying to win people over, like, you're just ruining their day and make it so they can't get home to dinner for their families.
I've told the story about the janitor strike in Houston when I was there.
And the SEIU came down from Chicago and they would have trucks filled with,
in the back they were filled with garbage
and they'd go through an intersection
like a main intersection and then somebody would
push all the garbage out into the middle of the intersection
just don't hold up traffic
that's not a good way to get me on the side of the janitors
that's not helping
no because what the point is like this is what
would happen if you get that janitors right
wait they drive trucks through the I don't understand
dump garbage in the middle of the street
doesn't make any sense that doesn't
that doesn't help me be sympathetic to your cause
that pisses me off yeah
so this one I guess they were
they were this one in Israel
they were protesting the Eurovision
song contest
now these are very very
Eurovision song
yeah they
that was held in Israel
which isn't by the way
in Europe
but it is
it can be seen so vision applies
so that's there
okay that's where it came in there
there there they went to
a protestors starting
you know it was starting to become an issue
they've tried like
police on horseback and all these things
to try to break up these rallies.
Apparently, the new tactic is that women have decided to go topless.
Apparently, under modesty rules, these men are forbidden to view erotic images of women other than their wives.
And in some cases, to view women at all.
Israeli advertising posters are periodically defaced if they contain images of women.
And some newspapers won't run any photos of women.
So the idea is that the women will now start taking their tops off to break up.
the protests because they're not allowed to see women without their tops off.
So they will physically be at the protest and take their top off.
And take their tops off.
And once they see that, they have to leave, which theoretically will break up the protest.
I don't know if it's going to work.
That's an interesting tactic.
It does seem like a tactic of the left often in the United States.
I love that they're always like, oh, these are, let's show these men.
These are our bodies.
We're going to go to this place naked.
And guys are like, wow, you're showing us.
You've taught us a lesson.
Because guys hate it when women don't wear clothing.
It's just something.
You don't want to see that.
Generally speaking, just look down upon by guys all over the world.
Now, in this particular case, I think it is actually looked down upon.
However, I've almost amazed by that here in the United States.
It's like, it's like, women are just like, oh, well, I'll show you whose body this is.
I'm going to go topless.
And guys are like, wow, you're proven a great point right now.
And you're teaching us all the patriarchy.
It's like, do you realize what side the patriarchy is on?
They convinced you to take your top.
top off. Do you realize that you're on the wrong side of the patriarchy when you're protesting
with your with your clothing off? It's not a good direction for you to go. But they do that all the
time. Yeah. I say the one way they do it a lot of times is, and it is effective when done this way,
is they take their clothes off, but it's the people you don't want taking their clothes off that do it.
Yeah. That's the protest. Right. And then that does break up a crowd. Yes. You know,
the Lena Dunham's of the world can break up crowds like nobody's seen.
given the right amount of clothing, which is none.
So it's possible.
I see where they're going with it.
We'll keep you updated on whether the Israeli protests are really controlled by topless women.
I'd love to know if that works.
It would be a fascinating thing to watch to develop.
Pat and Stu for Glenn.
You can catch my show.
Pat Gray unleashed.
Weekday mornings right before the Glenn Beck Radio program on the Blaze Radio and Television Network.
Then you can listen to the podcast at any time at your leisure.
which you can also do with Jeff Fisher's podcast.
Jeffie joins our broadcast today.
What is your dumb podcast called?
I know you have a difficult time remembering, chewing the fat.
Even though it was my name to begin with,
because that's the segment that you use on our show.
It is.
On my show.
And I stole it.
I mean, thank you.
I appreciate it.
Chewing the fat with Jeffrey.
Press any charges.
I appreciate it.
And where is that podcast available?
If you can get it on any platform that the podcasts are available.
Wherever free podcasts are sold.
You can't get it wherever a free podcast are sold.
That's an amazing thing about chewing the bat.
That is amazing.
Congratulations are in order, though, for Ellen Gigenerous.
I know you were wondering if she was going to continue on her talk show.
I really was concerned.
I know I heard you warning about it the other day.
But she is.
She signed a new deal three more years.
Oh, few.
I mean, so she's going to be back on Ellen is 61 now.
Wow.
I mean, she doesn't look at it.
No, she does not.
She looks great.
Three more years, though, of Ellen.
I mean, the Ellen brand is worth about 500.
million now, something like that.
So she's doing okay.
Yeah, she's doing all right.
You know, she's really likable.
I think she had a problem there in the late 90s when she was kind of preaching to people on her show when she came out as gay, which everybody knew.
It was like the least big surprise ever on network television.
Whoa.
She admitted it.
But the deal was that she admitted it live on TV.
But then it got kind of preachy and I think people didn't really like that.
And now she's not preachy at all about it.
And she's just fun.
And so I think people, it kind of shows you that we're not homophobic.
We just, you know, we just don't want to be beaten over the head with stuff.
Right?
I mean, I don't beat people over the head with my heterosexuality.
Oh, it just oozes from it.
Does it?
Yes, it does.
Oh, my gosh.
Yes, it does.
I can't help that.
It's hard to ignore.
It's hard to ignore, but yes.
So.
Good news for you, too, Stuart.
But maybe even you, Pat.
I mean, I know how much you guys enjoy Taco Bell.
They are opening a luxury resort in Palm Springs, California.
Taco Bell said,
The reservation's going to open in June, opens up August 9th.
Weird.
It's going to have the gift shop, exclusive apparel based on the restaurant,
salon, nail art, hairstyling services, all inspired by Taco Bell.
Will there be Taco Bell food there at least?
Okay.
It's going to unparalleled experience.
I don't want anything else.
that they're talking about.
No.
I don't want my hair due
to reflect Taco Bell,
but I would.
You don't want the Taco Bell nails?
No.
On your nails or anything?
I would say this could be
a potential investigation
for the Blaze.
Maybe I, as a reporter,
should go there
for a week or two.
I wish you just broadcast live
from the opening.
I would totally do that.
Taco Bell Resort.
I mean,
we've got the cruise through history
coming up.
Maybe we can get Taco Bell
involved in that.
Come Sailaway.com.
We just get Taco Bell
right on board.
there, then we're really going to up the...
No, we're hearing about gourmet Italian food.
Just give me Taco Bell.
I love it.
They kept saying, like, Trump had these big, you know,
dinners for all the teams that would win,
and then that one time when the government was shut down,
he brought it fast food.
I'm sorry.
That's exactly what you would want.
Johnson loved it.
And now he's been doing it,
he's done it several times since,
and I think that should just be the new thing.
Yes, absolutely.
American fast food companies.
And, of course, as with everything else,
He got hammered in the press by it.
And then you heard the Clemson players say,
no, that was great.
It was awesome.
Well, it's one of those things, too.
If he had given them gourmet food,
there would be a report in the Washington Post.
$427,000 spent on food.
And they would have gone the other way.
It's whatever way Trump isn't is the way they have to go.
We were talking about this in the break.
I actually kind of want Donald Trump to come out
and make a major policy address in which he says,
climate change is a serious issue and I'm pro choice.
Just to see what the media does.
They'd flip.
They would all flip.
They'd have to.
They would say, look, we have to be clear.
First of all, first of all, it's not just women's bodies.
Fathers have rights, too.
And this idea that climate change is this pending disaster is totally overblown.
That'd be great.
It would be so interesting.
And watch what the media does.
Oh, my gosh.
That would be such a treat.
And what the Democrats do.
They would start passing policies.
They'd be like, there's a heartbeat.
Of course they can't be allowed after a heartbeat begin.
six weeks is plenty of time.
That is, they would all completely flip.
I mean, we've seen this on several issues.
Because, you know, because obviously Trump has somewhat of a different policy in a portfolio as maybe the average Republican and certain issues in particular.
And you see this happening constantly.
People that supported one side of the argument for decades in the media.
And now are, I mean, the trade one is really interesting.
you watch, I mean, CNN was the mouthpiece of the unions on trade for 30 years saying we absolutely need tariffs and trade restrictions or killing American jobs.
Because you'd have all these union representatives come on and say all of these things.
And now because Trump is on that side of things, they sound like, you know, Milton Friedman.
Like they're all become, they're basically Stephen Moore and Larry Cudlow on trade all of a sudden.
It's incredible to see.
see how that changes. It should be embarrassing, but it's not. It's not. Oh, they have no embarrassment in
their embarrassment gene has been removed. Yeah. At some level, you just lock yourself into, I'm in a
battle against this other side. So whatever they say I'm on the other side of. And that is like,
I just, as a human being, I can't bring myself to go there. I just don't, I don't have any
interest in that. That's strange. If you're speaking of, you know, fast food, a little good fast food,
Chick-fil-A, I wanted to thank the governor, Greg Abbott from the great state of Texas. Oh, this is
really cool. He tweeted out
the other day about the new bill
that I believe he's on his desk.
The new, and he tweeted out on his Twitter account.
So what are the odds? I'll sign the
Chick-fil-A bill. I'll let you know after dinner.
And his picture on his tweet
was a large Chick-fil-A drink
with the Chick-fil-A story.
Save Chick-fil-A bill
held heads to Texas Governor Greg Abbott's desk.
And the story was from the blaze.
Yeah.
So I want to thank the governor for us.
Yeah, that's cool.
There's never been a better governor.
Seriously.
And it's not just because he featured the blaze in that little post.
Antichly.
But he is the greatest governor of my lifetime.
No matter what state I've lived in,
no matter how long, how far back you go,
there's nobody better than Greg Abbott.
No, you, now you lived in Connecticut.
Are you sure you want to?
Yes, I did.
You're going to go that far?
And I'm still going to stick to my.
Wow.
My statement.
Wow.
And you worked in New York.
Right.
You experienced that government.
Yes.
Was it Pataki at the time?
No, that was post-Pataki.
That was...
Was it Cuomo?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, and now you have the opportunity to potentially vote for Bill de Blasio for
president.
Right.
So, I mean, this is...
Probably going to pass up that chance.
Wow.
Are you kidding me?
No.
Now, Jeff, you noticed you brought up multiple stories here about fast food.
Your couple of the news?
Your podcast is called Chewing the Fats.
I will say it's sad to see.
post your heart attack
that you seem to be losing weight
and I don't like that
because it ruins our jokes
mainly.
I came on this show,
this very show with,
well, the host that's on vacation
now going back,
and we made a deal
about losing weight this year.
This is a great point.
We made a deal about losing weight this year.
I agreed to it.
Yes.
I've lost 25 pounds.
The deal was just that we were going to eat better
and we were going to lose weight
and I'm up to 25 pounds lost now.
I'm feeling good.
I don't think.
I think Glenn is part of that deal.
I will say this.
Glenn, and I can give you specifics on Glenn,
who said he was going to lose 50 pounds.
50?
In this year.
Okay.
Now, we are only in May.
How far toward that goal is he?
All he has to do is lose is 60 pounds.
And then he lost the 50?
I thought I kind of confronted him on this the other day.
I was like, Glenn, you know, you made this big deal to lose 50 pounds this year.
Like, how is that, are you?
Have you abandoned it?
He's like, no, I haven't abandoned it at all.
No, I'm still in.
Okay.
Now, look, he's still got seven months.
No, no, no, you can still do it.
Maybe that's going to happen.
He's on vacation this week.
Usually, we don't eat so well.
That's when you start working out and feeling good about yourself as on vacation.
So when he comes back, he'll just have to lose 75 pounds.
And that's not bad.
But you're actually going in the right direction, which is nice.
You did remind you, though, of Chick-fil-A, which did a promotion a couple years ago.
In which...
So classic.
Well, they were given away free sandwiches if you showed up in a cow outfit.
They do that once a year.
They do that once a year.
And so we decided to send Jeffie to Chick-fil-A, however, did not dress him up, just kept him like he is because he, you know, there's a cow, there's a sort of a lookalike situation already happening.
You don't need to dress him up that.
All we had him do when he walked into the store was say moo.
See if you got a free sandwich.
And bless their hearts.
And they did.
They did. I don't think chick-fil-I-i-ball.
Yeah.
I think.
I'm not sure that I want to thank them for, but they did.
It's easy to look at this as a negative, and you might look back at that as a bad memory.
But then I see your eyes light up when you talk about the sandwich.
I got free food.
I got free food.
All I had to do was go in and pretend I was a cow I'm in.
Not that big a stretch, really.
No, but I was pretending as well.
That's what we were saying.
You were saying you just go in as a cow.
Is that your, uh,
overweight.
Yeah, thank you.
No, I still have that.
Health-wise, are you okay?
No problem.
Piece of train it.
You just went in for a checkup not too long.
Yeah, they've said you're doing good.
I've fine.
You've quit the smoking?
I have.
That's amazing.
100%.
In fact, that's the one thing they told you even more than anything about food.
Yeah, they weren't concerned about the diet.
We'll get to that.
Smoking was number one.
Yeah.
And you've actually accomplished it, which is like incredible for you.
I mean, that's tough, man.
It is.
a tough five months.
Is it still or is it, is it, have you forgotten about it?
No, every so often, man.
You know, if I walk outside the building and somebody will be out there smoking and I just
want to tackle them and take the cigarette.
Have you considered using heavier drugs?
Like maybe off-selling it.
Okay.
But that doesn't help because that just makes me want to smoke more.
See?
So, wow.
Life is.
It's complicated.
I know.
And you cover issues just like this.
On chewing the fat.
Thank you very much.
Every day with Jeff Fisher, go to wherever free podcasts are sold.
That's right.
And just search for chewing the fat, and you'll find Jeffey's face on a steak, which is the symbol of the show legitimately.
It's the most perfect symbol of a show ever invented in the history of broadcast.
I don't know why.
It just seems appropriate.
AAA 727, B-E-C-K.
Ah, you got to love the hypocrisy, spread thick as usual by Democrats.
Kamala Harris.
How hard has you been fighting for the gender gap, the pay gap among the people?
genders to end and it's her policy that when she's elected president it will end.
Finally.
I don't know how she, how are you going to control the salaries that people give to their
employees?
First of all, we've talked about the gender pay gap a million times.
And so is the Washington Post, as a matter of fact, which is not conservative, but they've
debunked it as well.
Yeah.
It's not a real thing.
It's not a thing.
I know it feels like it's a real thing to a lot of people.
In fact, it's one that was so pervasive that I remember.
when we first started looking at it, I thought it was real.
Yeah, I did too.
This is maybe 10 or 15 years ago.
It was a book called Why Men Earn More.
It came out in the mid-2000s.
That really goes through the details.
It's written by a guy who was...
Didn't you set out to prove that it was accurate.
It was accurate.
Yeah, he was a guy who was the president of the New York chapter of the national organization
of women, which is kind of interesting that a guy would be.
Yeah.
But he was...
His theory was, if women can be paid for the same...
work a lot less, I'll open up a business and hire women for a little bit less, but I'll save a ton of
money and I'll be able to beat everybody. Well, then he realized when he had women all working for him
that they had different priorities and different decision-making processes. It wasn't always work
first. It was sometimes family first, which again, we'd all praise as a decision. It's smart,
but it was not the easiest way for him to run a business and the business did not work.
and he went up going through this and going through all the research and realizing that
what we see as a wage gap is almost completely disintegrates when you actually hold it up to any sort of light.
But when you have somebody preaching it that there should be equality in pay and there will be equality in pay when I'm elected,
it kind of blows your mind when you find out that in her Senate office and in her campaign,
she's paying men more than women for the same job believable i mean it's it's not a gigantic
disparity but it's six percent so uh men make six percent more in her uh in her senate office
and they make six percent more in her campaign now this is your big issue right now this is one of
your central policy uh concerns and you can't even figure this
out to pay your own personnel, the equal pay?
That's unbelievable.
Yeah.
Just unbelievable.
And we should point out the wage gap is not about equal pay for equal work.
It's just about equal pay as average.
They just take all the jobs in the country and average them men and women.
And that's how they come up with this wage gap.
Well, when you look at it when it's equal work, the difference melts away.
And in many cases, I think issues like the medical profession and education, women earn more than men for the same.
amount of work.
You know, just again, sometimes women are better at things and sometimes guys are better at
things.
That's not a surprise to any human being who's ever dealt with either one of the two genders,
which are part of the larger family of 9433 genders.
Well, if I decide after I have a baby to leave employment, I should continue to make
as much money as I was making when I was still there, right?
That'd be sweet.
I mean, in perpetuity.
Not just the six months that I can take off after having the baby, but I want to continue
to make that money.
I think a lot of places you can take more than six months.
off now. Yeah, it's a year
in some places. But if you take five years off
leave the profession and then come
back with the same knowledge you had five years
ago and expect to come into the same
job, whether it was a baby or not that
did that, you shouldn't be making the same amount of it.
And those are the situations that occur and that's
why there's a little bit of a difference, but you're
comparing apples to oranges. It just
doesn't work. It's not, they wanted
you to believe it's sexism and it's just not
sexism. There's like almost none of it that's even
possible that it could be sexism. You see
this over and over again. If women can earn more
with the same amount of education at the same point of their careers and in these same professions,
well, how could it be sexism? It's just not.
We will finish off the week together and get into a three-day weekend for Memorial Day tomorrow.
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