The Glenn Beck Program - What Trump's 'Final Blow' to Iran Might Look Like | Guests: Dr. Zuhdi Jasser & Khosro Isfahani | 3/26/26

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

Glenn starts the show by discussing the breaking news that the Trump administration is preparing for a “final blow” against Iran, according to Axios. Glenn reads the four possibilities Axios lays out that could be the final blow and explains why he doesn’t think any of the guesses are correct. Glenn also discusses Israel’s assassination of Iran’s IRGC Navy commander, who was responsible for blocking the Strait of Hormuz. National Union for Democracy in Iran research director Khosro Isfahani joins to discuss how the Iranian people are ready to be the boots on the ground to bring about regime change. U.S. House candidate Dr. Zuhdi Jasser joins to discuss the difference between Islam and Islamism and why one is radically more dangerous. Is a reformation possible to end radical Islam? Glenn recalls the final days before World War II began, when the British Ministry of Information created three posters, with one poster still being recognizable today. Glenn goes over various news stories of the day, including the latest asinine statement from late-night host Jimmy Kimmel.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Together, we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now let's get to work. Holy cow, there is a ton that is happening. I mean, breaking news right now. A final blow, which is what the press is calling it. A final blow is about to be delivered. to Iran. What does that mean? I'm going to show you the options, and quite honestly,

none of them sound like a final blow to me, so it may be just the press, but we are preparing to do something because Iran rejected the Trump outreach, and in fact, it got a little worse, but things are changing in the Middle East, and things are changing here as well. We have that and so much more to cover just in the first hour. We begin here in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about my Patriot Supply. Let's talk about how your brain handles risk. You know, when something feels immediate, a car drifting into your lane or a sudden noise in the night, you react without hesitation because your body knows what's at stake. When the threat is quieter, more distance, your mind has a way of acknowledging it and then tucking that away for later. That's how people,

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might be coming our way. It's preparewicklend.com. See our preparedness special offer. Prepare prepare with glen.com. You know, as I'm reading that commercial, I'm thinking to myself, gee, I wonder what could be coming our way. I think real trouble is coming our way. I hope not. I hope not. But, you know, I've told you, if you're a long-time listener, you know, I've always told you that I get more to missed it. And I don't know. I go in a different when things starting to get bad. I'm in a mode. I just kind of relied as I was writing some stuff last night.

I have a really hard time writing, you know, some things that are, you know, uplifting and entails. I'm like a doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom. I am the guy that you don't want to be on the first half of the ride on the Titanic. You don't want, you don't want me anywhere near you from England. England to the iceberg. But then you want to be standing right next to me once the boat is sinking because I'm very, very, you know, encouraging. And I'm starting to become very encouraging.

And that always makes my staff nervous. In fact, somebody said on the insider feed last night, I saw, uh, I'm very, what is it? I'm very nervous because Glenn's not nervous or something like that. I think it should be made into a T-shirt, quite honestly. but something is something is coming our way and we're going to make it through it and it's going to be fine, but it's going to be tough. It is going to be tough. Let me give you the news from the Middle East today. Iran has rejected our ceasefire proposals.

Not a surprise there. They've made some concessions such as allowing some fuel tankers through the Straits of Hormuz, but that's not going to. That's not going to. Axios is reporting today this morning that, quote, a final blow. is being prepared for launch. Okay, that doesn't sound really a final blow. Now, in the story, they are outlining the four possibilities. And I don't think these are the, I mean, who's going to go?

Is Heg Seth calling up Axios and saying, I got, look, we're looking at four possibilities here. So you don't have any idea what is real and what's not here. But they're describing the four objectives or options. One, invading or blockading Karg Island. Okay. Invading a different island that is a main IRGC base to shut down the strait. So there's Karg Island where they actually are loading all of the oil and everything else, and it's also a defensive island for the strait.

And then there's apparently another island that has the IRGC base, but why would we occupy it? Why wouldn't we just blow up the base? It's just me, maybe. Then option three is to invade and seize two other islands in the strait. I don't like any of those options, quite honestly. I don't like the idea of boots on the ground. But I understand if in a limited way, we have to do it.

Slippery slope. And then the other one is blocking or seizing ships that are carrying Iranian oil. None of those sound like a final blow. They sound like an expansion, but they don't sound like a final blow to me. maybe it's just me. Jason, do these sound like a final blow to you? I mean, that on its own does not sound like a final blow, but we don't know what the Israelis have in mind. So if this coincided with, you know, opening up the straits with also the Israelis targeting the security forces on the ground, that sounds more of like it. But this seems just like the next step in the operation, really, to me.

Yeah, it does. It just seems like an expansion of this. Speaking of Israel, they just announced that last night they killed the... the IRGC Naval Chief. This is the guy who is in charge of closing the Strait of Hormuz in the first place. And they killed him last night. Yeah, you know the rest of this. So we got that going for us. They are, they're deadly.

They're deadly. Has anybody seen the, what is it, on Apple? Yeah, Tehran. It came out a couple of, I think a couple of years ago. And I just, I wasn't interested. Didn't watch it. and my wife said, hey, I've talked to a friend, they said,

Terran, they were watching Taran, it's really good. It is really good. Have you seen it, Jason? Have you seen it, Ricky? I mean, I've seen the poster for it. I've thought about diving in, but because I am concerned about the war,

I actually didn't want to watch it. I thought it would freak me out. It's actually, it's very clarifying. It's, and it's also, if you like those old Cold War movies, where about spies and how we got behind the iron curtain and everything else.

This is like the Cold War. It's the spying of the Mossad on Iran and what Iran tries to do to stop Israel. And it's hair-raising. It is really, really hair-raising. I have no idea. It looks like it was all filmed in Iran. I don't know how they got that to happen because it's not really positive, you know, on Iran. but maybe it's maybe it's just me maybe they're thinking oh i like this because it says who they

really are but um at the same time that we are talking about winding things down and having a final blow multiple uh arab countries that are aligned with us are now publicly urging that the conflict cannot end yet i'm sorry glan can i interrupt you here yeah what do you mean what are the what are since when do arab golf leaders want to destroy iran much or more than Israel. This does not square for me. They're wanting to get involved. The reason why they haven't wanted to get involved in the past is not because they don't, not because they like Israel, because they don't want to set the Middle East on fire between Sunni and Shia. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, Jason,

love your analysis on this. They don't want to set the world on fire between Sunni and Shia, but they have no love at all. They are enemies with Iran, especially the 12ers in Iran. They are concerned this time around because Iran has struck their cities, their oil, in particular, their oil rigs and distribution centers, et cetera, et cetera. If that falls, if they shut down the strait of Hormuz and Saudi Arabia and these other countries can't get their oil out and sold, they begin to collapse. the reason why those Arab nations are so peaceful, you know, look, they all get along, everybody gets along, and it doesn't look like the rest is because of the money. They have so much money. They pretty much just put their extremists to sleep with money, I think.

And so they kind of buy peace. If that money system falls apart, they're in real trouble. So got to get rid of the CIA. the Shias, the 12ers in the Shia movement, according to any Sunni. And then also, we can't let this disrupt our system. It will set our own nation on fire. What do you think of that, Jason? Is that a good answer or not?

Yeah, yeah, I think it is. I think the Saudis have a huge Shia population within Saudi Arabia. And a lot of them have seen exactly what I read would want to do with a lot of these Gulf kingdoms is what they did to Yemen, utilizing their population. proxies all over the all over the country, all over the region. And that's a legitimate threat for all of these Gulf kingdoms. So they're worried about that for sure. But also the Gulf kingdoms have become, I am so sick and tired. I think I'm just a second. Excuse me. Excuse me for, I'm going to, I'm going to pretend I don't know what they did to Yemen. What did they do to Yemen? So through,

so through the groups like the Houthis, one of the stupidest terror group names in modern history. Right. They have a hard time taking them seriously at all. They effectively pressured the Yemeni government into being a full-on proxy of Iran. That's exactly what happened in Lebanon through Hezbollah. This has been the strategy for Iran to slowly turn the entire region Iranian and dominated by 12 or Shiism. So they're all aware of that threat. But also, I am so sick and tired of some of these.

goal fair of countries sending these strongly worded letters we meet it this time guys they just did this yesterday all of us and they put all the countries on there every gold fair up kingdom we're getting pissed okay if you are why don't you take responsibility for your own region for once for once and not wait on us to do it for you but i think that's what donald trump was trying to do with the peace accords um trying to get them to step up and take responsibility for their own region. And I think that's also kind of the leverage that he has when he's like, guys, we're not here. We're not going to fight your war anymore. We're not going to get entangled in a long, drawn-out war. This is on you. Yeah. This is exactly what he's doing to Europe, too.

Because we're not here to fight your war anymore with Russia. You're buying oil from them. Yeah. So don't expect us to hold them at bay anymore. That's your deal, not ours. And I think he's saying the same thing to the Arab world. And that message is coming through loud and clear, perhaps for the very first time. I'm so glad you brought up Europe in that strategy, because we know the Trump doctrine at this point. It is to empower these regions to do it themselves, whether that be Europe, even when that be in Southeast Asia, countries like Japan, why is Japan still operating like it's still in 1950 and they're still in reconstruction? The entire world is operating like it's still post-World War II reconstruction. That's got to end. It's got to end today.

Well, it is. You saw what's happening with Japan. I mean, this is, you know, anybody who says, this isn't America First. Yeah, it is. It's just not necessarily the obvious version of America First. The obvious and utopian, but almost cartoonish version of America First is we just withdraw from everywhere. That can't happen. You cannot build a world with American troops on the ground all over the world and then just bring them all home. The world would collapse into chaos. So you have to first, I mean, before you know, before you, before you take something away, especially if somebody is dependent on it, you have to give them either something else to

become dependent on or you have to get them to be strong enough to wean themselves off of that dependence. That's what he's been doing. And he's doing it in a. remarkably fast way. Remember, this has been since 1945. And in two years, less than two years, he has said to Europe, you're going to be on your own soon. Well, soon in, in, you know, global government terms is, you know, glacier-like movement. It's, you know, it would take decade or decades to move. He's saying it's going to have. He's saying it's going to

happen soon. It's going to happen maybe by the end of the term. You better get yourself prepared for us not being here. And he's doing the same thing with Saudi Arabia and the entire Middle East and Israel and everybody. We're going to take care so there's no nuclear missiles because Donald Trump knows nukes are the absolute worst. It means we're all vaporized. So we're going to take care of that, but we're not here to solve this problem. That's your job. And so he's holding them right now both at bay, but I have a feeling that if this is a final blow, if that language is actually coming from the White House, that's another signal. Look, we're not going to get involved deeper than this. We are delivering what we can deliver. We will make sure that that straight is open and the

flow of oil is happening. We will help there because we have the largest Navy in the world. That is a responsibility. We volunteer to take on because it helps us as well as the rest of the world, but we're not solving your problem in the Middle East. You've got this Sunni Shia thing going on. You got the terrorism thing going on. Yes, it affects us. We've just dropped a lot of ordinances on that country. We have taken them and neutered them as much as we can. The rest of it is up to you. And I think that is a win if that's what he's doing. All right. Let me tell you about our sponsor. Our sponsor is rush tax resolution.

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10 seconds, station ID. So there is something else on this. Russia also announced yesterday that they are preparing to send drones to Iran. That is marking a shift from indirect to direct military support. That's not a good sign if you're looking to bring things down. We have proxy tensions now becoming direct alignments and major powers all over the world thinking I'm going to get involved or not. I hope we are thinking let's end this soon and come on home and let everybody else deal with it. But we'll see.

Huge red flags in Europe on free speech. They have a problem in their country in England, in Germany, in Germany, in all of Europe has a problem. The Islamists have moved in and they are taking control. I don't know if you really understand what happened with the latest election with the green party in England. But the green party, you know, green for the earth is now green because of Islam. It is an Islamic party now. And it is becoming quite frightening what's going to.

on, especially with the return of blasphemy laws now in England. They're not traditional laws that are being passed by Parliament. They're doing regulatory guideline crap, but I mean, it is really, really bad. You mock, you joke, you question, you have legitimate questions about Islamic policies, traditions, practices, you know, hey, I think somebody's raping my child. if it makes a Muslim feel uneasy, unwelcome, or uncomfortable, they're saying now you'll go to prison. How does anybody, how does, that's not a free society anymore.

That's not a free society. How is Tommy Robinson going to be able to hold his, you know, rally? How's he ever going to be able to go home or voice legitimate concerns and not spend the rest of his life in prison? The answer is he can't. And that has been the plan. all along. This is not about protection of minorities or religion. This is about silencing any watchman on the wall that sees trouble coming and says, hey, we should talk about this.

This is happening in America. Let me give you just a few. Let me just give you a few examples. We just did this special. It's at glenbeck.com slash torch. I want you to see this. It is, it's really in depth. People don't understand how close this is. Let me give you this. This is Islamic protesters in Philadelphia. Cut four, please. Listen to what he's saying. Until we have done everything in our power to bring the United States to its knees. Let us not lose sight of the enemy. For every U.S. military base that crumbles and for every U.S. soldier who returns home in the casket, we cheer. Since when do we allow this kind of stuff?

They're talking about overthrowing America and cheering for our soldiers coming home in caskets killed by Hezbollah or Hamas. That's in Philadelphia, gang. That's in Philadelphia. And I got a long list of this stuff. We'll get into here in a second, but we're going to go to somebody who actually knows what's actually going on in the ground with the people in Iran next. And if you are a torch subscriber, I am sorry to say,

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We have had them now four times. yesterday was another day where we were having a DDoS attack and we're having it again today. If you are an insider, thank you for putting up with this. It seems like the more we talk about radicalized Islam in the Middle East, especially with Iran in particular, somebody is trying to take our sight down. So we appreciate it. That is the importance of this network's radio. family. They can't take us off of the radio, but we appreciate your patience with this.

We are being told that it is a major attack that would have to be at this level some sort of a massive, if not, state-directed kind of D-D-O-S attack. So I guess it makes our next guest even more important. Hulsro is Fahani is the National Union for Democracy and Iran Research Director. He grew up, was raised in Tehran. He lived there for 30 years. He worked as a journalist and a frontline human rights defender until 2021. This guy is braver than I think most of us put together.

He is infiltrated secret missile facilities. He smuggled classified documents out. and he delivered aid quietly to the communities placed deliberately in harm's way over the years. And I have been watching what he has to say. He has sources on the ground in Iran. Welcome. How are you, Hosero? Hi, Gaelan.

Thanks for having me. And thank you very much for your kind words. And more importantly, thank you for bringing light and attention to this very important story. And obviously, the regime is not happy about what you. you are doing. Thank you. Yeah. Well, I have to tell you, I think everybody in the world should be concerned about what's happening to the Iranian and the Persian people. They have been living under this dictatorship forever, and you don't have to be pro-war or anti-war. You just have to be, you have to have some compassion for what the people have been going through between the women,

the children, homosexuals, I mean, anybody that they don't happen to. to agree with, they slaughter. And I don't, I wanted to talk to you because I'd like to get a feeling of what is the mood on the ground in Iran. I mean, they came out in droves, about 30,000 of them were slaughtered after that. Now they're inside. The president is saying, stay inside. But will they come back out?

Is there an appetite for coming out on the streets and risking it all again? Here's the thing. People in Iran already are back out. Right now we are celebrating Noroos, the Persian New Year. The actual celebrations, the main one happened a couple of days ago on March 20th. Before Nooruz itself, we have this fire festival in Iran. Every year, people get together, make bonfires, jump over them, making good wishes for the next year, dancing, singing. That's the usual. This year, Crown Prince Rezop, the leader of the opposition issued a call asking people to celebrate this national moment, this national moment that we have held dear in our hearts, despite the Islamic Republic trying to erase the Iranian history, Iranian culture, Iranian heritage. He called on Iranians to not engage security forces, just celebrated the occasion in your neighborhood. And people listened, as always. They took to their streets. in their neighborhoods, they were singing, dancing, chanting against the Supreme Leader,

against the new Supreme Leader, Mini Mushaba, and the whole regime against the IRGC in support of the Crown Prince, all of that. There is a video that came out the same night. A woman is addressing Prime Minister Netanyahu saying, Bebe Joon, dear Bibi, we know that you won't let them touch us. And this trust, this trust that people took to the street. celebrating was not in vain. The regime actually had issued threats telling people that we are going to kill you if you come to the street to celebrate.

And they dispatched forces that siege militia was dispatched. And each of them, each convoy of these militiamen that tried to approach the celebrations, they were taken out by Israeli drones. The United States and Israel have finally stepped in providing the Iranian people, with a fighting chance against this slamous occupation of Iran that has lasted for almost five decades. We have been fighting this regime, nonestop. Since its inception, we have been on the streets.

March, 1979, women took to the streets in Iran opposing the imposition of the Sharia law. We have been out every year, every day, fighting this regime. So many people have died in Iran. We have very... So, but you don't have, in Iran, you don't have any weapons whatsoever. And Americans are not going to put boots on the ground.

They're expecting the people to be the boots on the ground. But again, you don't have any weapons. So how does the boots on the ground actually work? What does it look like with the Iranians just coming out of their houses? I mean, it could be really bad. The IRGC is still, you know, somewhat in control. Let me give the answer to you in three parts. First part, when in January, Crown Prince Josopal, he issued a call on people and people took to the streets in millions.

They brought with themselves to the protests the actual flag of Iran with the lion and the sun. Hundreds of flags flooded the streets of Iran. Those flags don't grow on trees. People have been preparing. And those flags are the lowest hanging fruit on that preparation tree. Much more has been done. I cannot go into very much the details. But a lot of technologies have been deployed and drones and all that we are seeing.

These are just the start of it. A lot more is ready to go. The Iranian people are the boots underground. But the next two parts of my answer. One, what the United States and Israel have achieved during this military campaign. A lot of naysayers in the West. After three weeks, we are not even at four-week mindsome. The United States and Israel have dismantled the Islamic Republic leadership to great extent.

A lot of targets are still there. Ahmed Wahidi, Kali Bav, the parliament speaker, a jade, judiciary chief. These are the actors that are holding the regime together. targeted killing of these individuals will lead to the collapse of the leadership of the Islamic Republic, which already is happening. A lot of military bases, the commanders have deserted their posts. That's one side. But more importantly, the arms of oppression of the Islamic Republic has been targeted repeatedly by Israel and the United States. So far, hundreds of besiege militiamen have been taken out in targeting.

targeted drone strikes, many more have been injured and many, many more are not showing up for service. They are scared and the regime cannot even pay them. The situation that the regime is facing is dire and they cannot hold it together for long. But back to your actual question, Iranians have been preparing. A couple of two weeks ago, I think, Crown Prince Rezaa Aliwi finally publicly announced the existence of the immortal guard, a job of done, a decentralized,

self-organized, group of people, multiple circles across the country that have been trained and are ready to go. Iranians are the boots underground.

Trained by who? I cannot go into details of that. Too much is it's sake and we are talking about a war zone. Okay. Well, that is good news. I had not heard that before. One of the things I have heard to try to discourage those who want Iran to be free is that the people are turning on the United States and Israel because of the bombing that, you know, they're saying, now you're killing us and, you know, now they're turning on us. Is there any truth to that? In every society, you have outliers. Before this whole military operations started, the Islamic Republic and a bunch of lunatic leftists

organized a pro-Pali rally outside Tehran University. They were able to get 20, 30 people outside Tehran University to chant in support of Hamas and Hezbollah and other terrorist groups. And more importantly, we are dealing with a situation that internet has been caught. Yes, some dissidents have received satellite internet and technological tools that is enabling them to circumvent the blockade. But a lot of the noise that is coming out of the Islamic Republic is generated by the Islamic Republic. Remember a couple of months ago there was a story all over the news about white SIM cards, SIM cards that the regime removes all online limits for and give it to influencers to push its line. There is also another piece of evidence of them doing the same thing.

When the regime's foreign minister was on air giving an interview using internet, he was questioned, why do you have internet while the whole nation is offline? He responded, I'm the voice of the nation. They are providing internet to these type of influence. to push an anti-U.S., anti-Israel narrative. But what we hear from people in Iran is that with every missile hitting this regime, people are rejoicing. When Nooros was happening, traditionally people visit the graves of their loved ones. When you kill tens of thousands of protesters in cold blood, hundreds of thousands are going to visit their graves.

And they did. There is a video of a mother. A mother at the grave of his son killed. And she's shouting, addressing the United States and Israel, and telling them, God bless you, you made our hearts happy after this darkness. This is the mood that we are seeing coming out of the country. Is there something that the people are waiting for? Is there a signal they're waiting for?

Is it Donald Trump just coming out and. saying now? It's multiple elements. One, the decapitation at the top needs to continue. Multiple individuals are still in place. They have been engaged apparently, or who knows what's happening, in negotiations. Those individuals are actual terrorists, and the United States have been saying that it doesn't negotiate with terrorists.

We need to stop talking with these people and also let us. our allies finish the job of taking them out. That's one element. And two, two weeks of targeted campaign taking out the Islamic Republic's arms of oppression would turn the tide, give the Iranians an actual chance in this uphill battle. We have been fighting this for the past five decades. I have been involved with it for 17 years. We are unwilling.

This is, you're saying that there's still a lot of, lot of targets left before that signal can be given. Yes, and that's my understanding from every military and security source that we talk with, that the military campaign is far from over, and which war against a major terrorist sponsor like the Islamic Republic, a state that has killed so many people inside and outside the country, has occupied land beyond the borders of Iran. Look at Lebanon, look at Syria, look at Yemen, look at Iraq, how a war against such a regime can be over in three, four weeks. The timeline is not too far from being over, but there is much more needed to be done for the call to arrive. And President Trump has repeatedly told the Iranian people, stay home, stay safe while the bombs are falling.

when they stop, the call will arrive from the leader of the opposition, Crown Prince Razor Pahlavi, and Iranians have shown that when that man speaks, they listen. Halsra, I appreciate it. I pray that your people will be free. This is probably it. I mean, if the people don't in the end rise up, if we don't weaken them enough and give you the opportunity to rise up, it may unfortunately be another half century before you have this opportunity.

again. So I pray this goes well. Oh, thank you very much. God bless you. Thank you for having me. You bet. You bet. Hulsro is Fahani, the National Union for Democracy in Iran. All right.

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And they're hoping that it'll come soon maybe in the next couple of weeks. but every time we talk about these especially around the special that we did last week we hit we get hit on our servers

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not as one giant organism. And I appreciate that. This is why AM and talk radio is so vital to the nation to keep it going. We're going to continue our conversation on what is happening to our country, the war that we're actually in, and I don't mean in Iran. I mean, I've said this for several years. I think we are at the beginning of World War III, and most people just don't know it yet. And there's a chance to do it without guns, but we have to have honest conversations of. about Islamism.

Political Islam will be the poison, the cancer, the death of the West. Europe is almost gone. But America is really close. I want to show you some evidence of that. And then I want to bring somebody in who can help answer the question. Is there a difference between Islam and Islamism? I have friends on both sides of this aisle. I think I know my answer, but I want to hear from one side from a dear friend of mine.

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we cheer. Okay, stop. Notice that's an American accent. That's not a foreign accent. It's an American accent. We cheer for every soldier that comes back in a body bag. And let's not forget the enemy. The enemy, he says, there is the United States. We will bring it to its knees. Here in Philadelphia, again, this is a, was posted by a great service out of the Middle East called Memory. What they do is they take videotape from all over the world that is in Arabic and they translate it so people know, exactly what's happening in their areas. We thank Memory TV. This is from Philadelphia. These are Islamist kids. Listen to what they are singing and a little skit that they're doing. Go ahead and play a little bit of this.

This is not in English. But in this Philadelphia mosque, We will chop their heads off. We will liberate the sorrowful and exalted Al-Axa. That's Jerusalem. We will subject them to torture rebels, rebels, rebels. They're talking about the great Satan and the little Satan. That's in Philadelphia.

Here's a North Carolina scholar defending child marriage. Listen to this. Now, what's the age of marriage in the U.S.? Every state has a different age. There are some countries outside in the world. Girls can marry are 12 years old. Okay, what's the issue of this? If in Africa, girls reach maturity much, much younger, even here in the U.S.,

I know we have some students from our families, from our acquaintances, the girls grade five, and they reach maturity, they reach puberty. Very briefly, the worst enemies of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him in his own time, did not object on this and did not say to him, oh, look, he's marrying a young lady. And in Islam, it's understood it by consensus. You can marry a child. So you can marry a child. You can marry a child. That is a scholar at North Carolina State University. What is happening to us? We have been invaded. And I, laid this out on my special last week. If you have not seen it, does it come out today?

Do we have the, what part do we have coming out? We'll have it by tomorrow. We got bonus content coming out. We have bonus content tomorrow. You're going to see these full interviews. Plus, you have the entire special. You'll have about an hour to two hours of more bonus material yesterday and a booklet that will help you understand this that you'll be able to share with your friends. you'll be able to get it if you're at glenbeck.com slash torch. Just join us, torch, that hopefully will all be out tomorrow. So you can share this information. But in our special, we have Dr. Zudy Jasser.

Zudy is a dear friend of mine. I've known him for, I don't even know, 20 years probably. It wasn't, I think I was at CNN when I first met him. He is a primary care physician. He is, you used to be, a lieutenant. commander in the U.S. Navy, physician to Congress and the Supreme Court justices. He is also the founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy and the Muslim Reform Movement. Reason why I like him so much is this guy has paid and his family have paid such a heavy price because he's a Muslim. But he says

there's a big difference between a Muslim and an Islamist. And he is trying to reform. And he is trying to reform Islam. Imagine being that guy. He is also now running for Congress. I fully support him. He is running for Arizona's fourth district. It's a swing district. You can find, you know, more about him at Z4AZ, Z, the number fouraz.com. Zuti, thanks for coming on. Oh, any time, Glenn, it's great to be with you. Thanks for talking about this. It's such, it's the most important discussion in the 21st century. So I want to, I'm going to push back hard on you because I really want to have an honest discussion about this. You said in the special there is a difference and I wasn't sure. Honestly, at the beginning of the special, I wasn't sure that I fully agreed with that.

I thought I did, but I didn't fully agree with it. I wasn't married to it until I heard some other things in the special and then I think I'm there. But I want to play pushback and devil's advocate because in the special you said there is a difference. between Muslims and an Islamist. One is political and one is religious, I guess. Yes, you know, and this is a construct. You know, as you know, as somebody who believes there's some deep need for reform in Islam, and we haven't gone through the anti-theocratic movement yet, you can't admit as a Muslim that you need reform unless you realize that the general consensus, the leadership, the establishment of the faith has a cancer in it, and that is theocracy. So you can call it political Islam, theocratic Islam, Sharia supremacism, all those things are the same thing.

And is it the predominant Islam? Absolutely. There's no doubt that normative Islam, as you played an audio earlier, most of the imams, 95% of the imams globally are problematic. They are evil as far as their concept of humanity, of human rights. rights, their values are incompatible with America, with the West, and no different than our founding fathers that fought against theocracy, I as a Muslim, have a moonshot. I have a sense that this is where I think we can go. I believe in liberty. I believe in that first liberty. But even after our founding fathers fought for a revolution, it took them 13 years until they had a legal document in that they agreed upon and recognized that first liberty as being religious liberty. So as an

American. And as a Muslim, I say, you know what, we have to recognize that there's a table. We're not going to rename the religion. The definitions, Islam is the faith. Muslims are those who follow it. The problem is the entire establishment, the leadership, the people that are making money from Islam, the petro-Islamists of Saudi Arabia, of Iran, of Pakistan, the establishment that is dug in the, dug their heels in the sand for the last thousand years. But let's also not have an ahistorical approach to Islam, like any other faith, and say, listen, if the recipe was wrong, the first three, 400 years would not have been an era of enlightenment on the planet in which the Greek philosophers and so many philosophers are translated into Arabic and other

languages while the West was still grappling with the Dark Ages, if the recipe was wrong. But it went from 4,000 schools of Sharia to essentially four, and you had basically now for a thousand years. This is why what's happening in Iran is so amazing. If you don't separate Islamism from Muslims and a possibility of reform, who are the people in Iran, the people on the street that rejects theocracy? Are they in a vacuum? Do they not have a faith? Are we going to disenfranchise them from their relationship with God? And I want to end this comment with what you and I, we've become such good friends. And I can tell you that as you met my wife, you met my kids, you know, my kids are God-fearing moral, sentient human beings who have a strong relationship

with morality. They aren't morally inverted like all these satanic cultish death cult folks of the Islamists. They would die for their fellow Americans, regardless of their faith. They believe in God and fast and pray, and who are they praying to? It must be a faith that has some type of moral compass. And if we say that's not a faith and we don't even want to call it Islam, we recognize that we're a minority report within that faith. But we also have to, we can't leave, you know, I recognize that the seats at the table are empty, that the most majority of Muslims are silent and we have given them a pass.

No, don't give them a pass. Put fire under their feet. Tell them that they're like the silent Nazis in Germany, you know, silent Germans under Nazi Germany. Yes. Tell them that. Get them awakened. But don't deprive them and disenfranchise them of their relationship with God and the faith of Islam.

You know, that was something that we did in World War II. You know, I said I was someplace speaking, and it just kind of came out of my mouth. And I thought, well, that's going to cause some problems. But let me repeat it now to a bigger audience. You know, when we went into Germany, you know, we knew who the enemy was. and we knew who the the Germans were that were good because not all Germans were Nazis, but the ones that were good were the ones that were like, the Nazis are over there. Get those guys.

Help us, help us. We knew because the good guys would self-identify and help. The bad guys didn't. And, you know, you get to a point to where this is going to get so bad. if we can't have logical conversations, if we can't just be shouted down every time we try to have this conversation, it's going to get to the point, Zuddi, where everybody's just going to, everybody's just going to assume that every Muslim is bad. And in the special that I saw, you know, one of the things that really convinced me or helped convince me was the number of Muslims that when the Muslim Brotherhood and others were taking over and buying all of the American mosque, Most people don't even know this happened. Buying all of these mosques and taking them over, it was the American Muslim that were standing up,

reaching out to our government and everybody else going, help, help, help, help. We're being taken over by really bad people. And they were, and we didn't do anything. And now what do you do? If you're in that community, now how do you speak out? Exactly. And that we have to recognize that America really has the answer

in that Europe, you can almost put a fork in it because their version of democracy is a racial version in which, for example, one of the founding scholars of the concept of Islamism that understands it was Basam Tibi, a German scholar. He retired in America because he said, you know, I lived in Germany for 40 years, and I never felt German because they didn't have a culture of absorbing folks of all different, you know, origins, ethnic origins, that could then become American. or become German. So he retired in America. He said, Americanism as that anti-theocratic religious liberty is the only way to create a strategy against political Islam, against these viral movements. So let's look at the threat. 1.8 billion Muslims globally. 30 to 40 percent are dyed in the wool Islamists, which is five to 600 million people. So that's a massive movement. So yes, people who say that Islam is a problem are right. There's not that much daily. between them and me. But the issue is what is our strategy? As a West, to save the West, we have to

have a strategy of an offense. And the head of the spear of that offense, I'm not alone. The people of Iran are more on the offense than me because I've been protected by a country that has gone through this revolution. And by the way, the woke, the bigotry of low expectations, all of that needs to go away because it's giving Muslims a pass in America. So they do become more passive. sort of let, you know, the Iranians fight the battle against Islamism, when in fact it's coming here to our shores. So we have to fight it here in this laboratory that we can do it better than anywhere on the planet against theocracy. So, do you want to push back on something you said a minute ago. So give me 60 seconds.

We're back with Dr. Zuddi Jasser. He is running for U.S. House. That's not why he's on. He's a dear friend of mine. And one of the bravest people that I know. And he is running for, or what is it, the fourth district in Arizona, which is a swing district. You can find out about him at z4az.com. But I want to push back on something you said, and we'll do that in 60 seconds. First, time for you to take back your life

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But more importantly, you said 90% of the mosques or the imams at the mosque, 90% of them are radicalized. if I said that 90% of the priests in the Catholic Church were radicalized, I would have a hard time then saying, I trust Catholics. Because, I mean, if you're going to that and you know that priest is radicalized, how do I trust that you're not either radical or slowly being radicalized yourself? we would warn against those Catholics. Why is this different? Absolutely. Not necessarily different. And you're not wrong.

The problem as in a very Trumpian way, the problem is the establishment. We are fighting. We need to fight against the establishment. Nobody who's making money from Islam should be trusted, whether it's governmental folks, petro-Islamist, academicians, whatever it might be. But in order to get back that, that, uh, control. of our faith and who defines it. We need legitimacy.

We need some religious legitimacy. And I'm not making ideas up. There are many academicians. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I want to stop you. I want to stop you. I want to get into religious legitimacy, because I think I understand what you're saying,

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with us and for truth, join our insider community today at glenbeck.com slash torch. So I have been warning of this apocalyptic kind of Islamism that is cancer to the West since 1999. I think I was the first person on radio in 99, at least to say, Osama bin Laden, what he believes, there will be blood body and buildings in the streets of New York. I was in New York on WABC saying this within the next decade, and it'll have his name on it. And nobody believed. Nobody wanted to believe. Nobody wanted to pay attention to what's really going on. And this is a really difficult question because we want to stick by our principles. principles of freedom of religion. Although I will stand against Satanism every day as an American

citizen. I'm sorry. No, because it's Satan. It's a cancer. And a lot of people will say, including me, that the way Islam is being practiced is absolutely, I mean, the 12ers, the Shia 12ers that are running around, that's Satanism. I mean, it is just a death cult. Now, I think, and this is I want to bring Zudy Jasser back in on this, Zudy, when you say we have to have religious legitimacy, are you saying that you're looking for or you're trying to start a kind of a Martin Luther thing? Because he didn't give up Christianity.

He gave up the way Christianity was being interpreted by, a church. Is that what you're saying when you're talking about you have to have religious legitimacy for the Muslims that are, you know, don't want to live like this? Absolutely. And, you know, every faith has its own historical arc of reformation and modernization and what that would include. You know, as you mentioned Catholicism, the first hundreds of years of Catholicism, the church prevented the laity from even reading the scripture in Latin. And Ultimately, that was reformed and moved forward towards modernity until America was formed. So as a Muslim, that's spiritual legitimacy.

I as a spiritual human being, you know, it's interesting. The Islamists will publish things about me nationally and globally, but locally here in Arizona, they have a tough time doing it because I'm known in the community, not only as a primary care doc, but as a medical ethicist who teaches an ethics program in the largest, you know, teaching institution here in Phoenix. and have established credibility as a moral, ethical human being. And many people see that, know me as a man of faith, and that provides religious legitimacy.

And then I say, you know what? On top of that, I don't deny the fact that we also have to debate the ideas. I don't get my ideas from my own vacuum. I've read scholars like Abdullah Nain, Abdur, Abdur Karim Sorush, a Persian scholar that talks about liberty in Islam, Eshamawi from Egypt, Fatima Marnati. from Morocco who talks about Islam and democracy. I formed coalitions. I'm not alone. We've not only formed the Muslim Reform Movement. And you know, Azra Nomani, Rahil Raza, you've interviewed many

times. And then our coalition of people like Yasmin, Muhammad, and others. So it's not a movement by myself. It's a larger movement. But I also reject terms like Islamophobia. We want people to recognize that Islam doesn't have rights. It's an idea. Muslims do. But it's a They use the term Islamophobia because they want to shut down free speech. They want to shut down criticism and call that blasphemy and ultimately prevent us Muslims from owning our own faith and having legitimacy. I used to debate imams all across the country. And then they realized they were losing miserably when they had a lay person who's not an imam, but yet understands the faith and the Quran and the scripture, debate them.

They tried to demonize me and target me and actually. use passages that recognized assassination and other things and continue to debate them, and now they realize they're trying to stay away from me rather than deal with me. So, so, Zudi, are you, is this kind of like, you know, I was a cafeteria Catholic? I would pick and choose. Can you actually hold to the Quran? Because there's a lot of stuff in it. Like, you know, there's a lot of stuff in the Old Testament that, you know, you don't hold to

anymore. But can you hold to the Quran and be, you know, not crazy? You know, not violent? Because there's a lot of stuff in the Quran that there's been no reformation. That's what you're trying to bring about. There's been no reformation. So it's all kind of enforced, as you say, by like 90% of the imams. That's the most important question. Do the Zootie Jastres of the world sort of make up their fantasy faith? Or is it rooted in a new interpretation of the same scripture? We as Muslims only call Quran what's in Arabic, not the English translation. Everybody's reading on the Internet.

99% of those translations are Saudi Wahhabi radical or hominis-Iranian-type theocratic radical. Wow. My father translated the Quran. You can find it on Amazon. It's a modern translation that really helped me be the non-radicalized pro-American Muslim that would only die for America and never die for jihad. There are passages in there. You can separate what's in the Quran from what's historical versus what's for all times.

The Prophet wore three hats. One is as messenger. One is as the head of a military. And the other is the head of state. We have to say that time in which the leader of a faith, like Abraham or Moses was the head of a military or state is done. We no longer need a religious state. We need to have, just like we have modernization in medical and computer science,

we need to recognize modernization in political science, which the best system in the planet is the American system. And if God wanted to tell us how to run government, he would have said so in the Quran, and there's nothing in the Quran about that. Yes, there's a lot of laws, but to me as a Muslim, We raised our kids, all the laws in there are between God and a human being. So I need to live in a laboratory where I can decide not to drink because God tells me not to drink. He needs to know that I made that decision volitionally, sentiently as a human being, not because I was forced by the the theocrats or coerce.

So you can recognize that those laws apply to me personally. And, you know, all the child marriage stuff, et cetera, that I don't believe is in the Quran. It's not recognized specifically. It's all from Hadith, most of that, which is sayings of the prophet, that 90% of which is garbage, we need to say, was made up and not part of Islam. But the Quran, it's hard to say anyone's a Muslim unless they recognize the Arabic of the Quran, but the interpretation, the translation is human. It's not from God, and that's what we need to debate. So when you say you don't believe it's in the Quran, you know the Quran. It is either there or it's not.

What do you mean by, I don't believe it's there? Well, for example, the passage that says, you know, do not take Jews and Christians as friends. The word friends that's there is not friends. There's also passages that allow Muslims to intermarry between Christianity and with Muslims and Christians and Jews. So if intermarriage is allowed, which is the holiest institution in our faith, how could it also say don't take them as friends? Well, the Saudi Wahhabis intentionally put friends there in order to demonize and perpetuate anti-Semitic tropes. So that is not friends.

It's Auliet, which has to do with legal scholars. So just as in Catholicism, it talks about godparents. You would not want a non-Catholic to be the godparent to your child. You know, similarly, in Islam, there are passages that refer to specific, you know, familial, legal things that relate to Islamic family. laws, but rather not related to demonizing or saying that we have the only pathway to heaven. No, there are many passages that do not say that actually enforce the fact that Christians and Jews also will go to heaven, and it's not simply exclusive for Muslims.

Sui, how does the average person know? I mean, we are seeing really dangerous stuff in our streets. We are seeing, you know, we're seeing our towns, Dearborn, Michigan. It's like going to the Middle East. I mean, that's not good. That's not good. How do you know, especially in a religion where they say they are permitted to lie, as long as they're lying for Islam? How do you know what's true and what's not?

How do you trust? I think as in any relationship, many people, I'm sure every one of your listeners not only has friends and relationships that they have personally in their communities, their neighborhoods, their doctors, you know, I was very close to Charlie Kirk. God bless him and have known the family for a long time. And Charlie, before he passed, was in Europe speaking

actually quite a bit about the threat of Islam and what it was bringing to the West and the challenge it was for Westernism and Americanism. And yet, you know, as much as he and I might have disagreed about some of the Islamic interpretations, he recognized that he trusted me with his life. And similarly, I think many people out there should look at Muslims that they know and start to ask them, challenge them, treat them with equality and respect to say, you know what, I respect you to the point that I'm not just going to do interfaith based on kumbaya and what we share, but what are the differences?

What happens if you became a majority here? That's how you attest if a Muslim is here to conquest because, and also their character, their integrity. They will, you know, these people that lie to seek evangelical Islam infiltration and conquest to the West, as you so rightly said, you know, they're going to manipulate that in any possibility they have. So you can tell when people are lying, just like politicians, you can tell. when they're speaking up and making things up. And I'd been consistent on this for 20, 30 years, my entire life. Remember, in 2008, you said, I was the radical, right? And you're still right.

You're still right. Islam are the conquest folks that are coming here to destroy the West. They see the world divided into the world of Islam where Muslims are a majority and the world of war, the land of war. We are in the land of war here where Muslims are a minority. We need an offense. All I'm telling your listeners is that that offense strategically needs to empower to use Muslims that are on our side, on Americanism, as the head of that spear. Because then we will have a seat at that table, just like now the IRGC is being destroyed.

When our military operations stop, a peaceful Middle East means the rising up of a post-monarchy, post-theocracy, Iran, which will be hopefully begin to share our values. And that's the best anti-nuclear program. That's the best end of forever wars that we could ever have is allowing that nascent, organic, anti-theocratic movement to rise up and then allow them to start and just start debating them. Because there's a lot of scholars that I've studied and we need to talk about is don't give us a pass. I can talk about what are the roots, the academic foundational roots of the Islam that I believe in that is compatible. and we have argued and done apologetics for in the 21st century to begin to broaden that foundation of what is Islam and what is not. Sui, you rightly reminded me what I said about you that you are the radical in Islam.

This is radicalized Islam, what Zudi is talking about. And, you know, I not only would have your back because I've known you for so long and I've watched you for so long, but I know you'd have my back and I would gladly fight battles with you side by side. The one thing that I would like you just to share, the threats that you get, this is how I know Zudia is on the right side, the threats that you and your family have gone through because, you know, when you say things like, hey, 90% of the imams are radical, they don't like that. What does this cost you? Well, the cost, I have to tell you, pales in comparison to the comfort of freedom that my family lives in here. My parents escaped Assad's Syria and my family that's still remaining there was dodging chemical weapons on one side with ISIS on the other. And, you know, I'm living in the comfort of home in Arizona.

And yes, there are imams here that spoke out and said we have enemies within that pretend to be Muslim and basically declare me an apostate and cited. Quranic scripture in which it says, you know, the enemies of Islam need to be killed. You know, that's their interpretation of that. There have been websites in Syria during the revolution that had web pages that talk about my family as the Zionists, you know, part of the Zionist conspiracy. And my kids, when they were younger, had to have joint counterterrorism force people making sure that they were safe in their schools here because we didn't know where the threats were coming from.

And then there's the social ostracization. In my book, A Battle for the Soul of Islam, one of the chapters I talk about is tribalism. You know, you can't reform a faith that is based in collectivism and tribalism and shuns people who fight the norm, who critically think, who challenge authority and speak truth to power. You know, that's the tribalism, the pathology that happens. And my wife has suffered from that as she gets pushed away. It was amazing. I was leading the national conversation for two decades about the evil of the Assad regime. And finally, the revolution comes to an end.

And I say thanks to Israel, because Israel did the final acts that caused the end of the Assad regime. And they celebrated the end of the Assad regime locally. And the Syrian community that used to thank me for my courage for speaking out against Assad, said that, well, your family can come, but Zudi can't come. And my wife's like, what? That makes no sense. So this is the type of ostracization and tribalism that happens and doesn't recognize the truth of what we're fighting and what their allies within the community and within this country and Israel and all of those who believe in freedom have been fighting for for so long. Zudi, thank you so much. I'm out of time.

I'm against the network break. But thank you for joining me. Thank you for the fight that we've been in together for a very long time. for your courage. If you want to find out more about him, you can go to Z4AZ, Z, the number fourAZ.com. Zootie Jasser, doctor, thank you. All right, let me tell you about American financing. If you're worried about those upcoming credit card bills, you're not alone. It's one of the things that might keep you up at night knowing that mostly what you're paying for goes right straight to interest because that's the part that really gets people. You're making the payments.

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And what makes it so is I'm not here to follow up with. And so there's the answer. The answer has to come from you. Hopefully that's the beginning of your search for the truth on what you believe. And I'm not asking you to believe what I believe. Find the truth yourself. You know, as you look at everything that we are fighting today, there's a lot of isms that we are fighting. We're fighting progressivism.

Why is progressive? What's difference between communism and? and progressivism. Speed, that's it. It is just a step between or a step to get you there. Progressivism just doesn't want the violent revolution, but it wants, this is early 20th century American progressivism. This is why they started it. They didn't want the revolution, but they like the whole communist idea. We're fighting that. We're fighting actual communism. We're fighting actual Marxism. We're fighting fascism. Islamism. We're fighting all of these things right now and it doesn't seem like we're making any real progress because on all of those fronts

we fight it back, we push it back, but it seems to also just continue to get stronger and stronger. Why is that? How do we fight that? Why? Where's the battlefield? I'll explain in 60 seconds. Real estate agents, I trust. Some things you just can't put a price on in quality and dependability and a hardworking attitude by people who, you know, show up every day, you know, and they don't just show up for the flashy stuff in real estate, the flashy listings. They make all the difference they can in every listing. You know, when it actually counts, when it comes to buy or sell a home, those are exactly the things you want in the person that represents you because this isn't about transactions.

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But they don't know them personally and they don't have a relationship with them. and they also don't do what we say. You can't just pick and choose. You can't just say, oh, well, that one is a huge house and that's going to make me a lot of money. I'm going to take that one. Uh-uh. You can have that one, but you also have to help this one over here. You have to take that one over there.

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In the final days before World War II began, Britain did something that most governments never, ever do. They planned for fear. They had just lived through World War I. They knew what they were headed into. They planned for bombs and guns, but they also knew they had to have a plan for what happens to a population

when the ground beneath them is no longer stable, when rumor outruns truth and anxiety is just spreading like a wildfire. The British Ministry of Information prepared for a different kind of war, and they produced different kinds of weapons. What they did is they prepared messages, in particular three messages. each one was designed for a different psychological moment in the war that they believed were going to come to London and to the streets. And so the first message was put on a poster and it was pretty severe. Freedom is in peril.

Defend it with all your might. That's what it said. Freedom is in peril. Defend it with all your might. That's not a comfortable thing. That is a joke. wake up. It was designed. Wake people up. Take a population

that might still be thinking in peacetime terms and force them to understand. This is an existential fight. This is not about politics. This is about your very survival. Wake them up. And it aimed to create real clarity and urgency and cut through the denial that a lot of citizens were living in. You know, they needed to feel the weight of the responsibility at a time where war perhaps was distant and not real.

The second poster was for the next phase of the war when the war became more obvious. The second poster out of the three softened the tone but really sharpened things. That poster read, your courage, your cheerfulness, your resolution will bring us victory. that poster was released once the war had begun. The war now people were awake, it had become real, fathers and sons were dying on distant battlefields, the storm clouds were visible, growing darker every day, and now the question was, not do we act or not, how do we endure? And families were stressed out, you know, the story of what happened with the children

over in England during the war, it's just amazing. The children didn't understand what was happening. The parents were struggling with the basics. The British pound was not buying what it could. Everything cost more and more, and the pound was worth less and less. And the message was meant to shape the behavior under that kind of pressure.

And it promoted something more difficult. Courage under fire. Hey, be happy. cheerfulness is in it can be found in scarcity and there will be a resolution over time and it told people the emotional discipline is part of the war effort we're counting on you i mean the message is so british and also from such a different era it's kind of hard to relate to you know hey cheerfulness is really but it worked the posters were up everywhere now most of Most people don't remember the posters, and certainly no one, even in England, remember the third poster being posted from the war.

It was printed in the millions, and it was kept in boxes. Same look, same kind of message. But this one, this one they hope they never had to use. It was held back for a very specific moment, catastrophic failure. you know, a time when Germany would use overwhelming force, they would be landing on the shores, they'd be destroying the streets of London, maybe killing the king, followed by, God forbid, German occupation. That's what that poster was for. It was for people that, you know, their confidence was shattered, they stopped trusting that there would be a brighter tomorrow,

and everything about their society would begin to fray. Then and only then, the final message, That third poster was supposed to be released and put up everywhere. It wasn't meant to rally. It was meant to hold the line inside the human mind. So they print it. They have it ready. And then comes the blitz. Night after night, London burns.

People are sleeping in tunnels. Fires lit the sky. Entire neighborhoods disappeared. And the children of London were set out on trains to the rural areas of Great Britain to people they didn't know, the families didn't know. They just put the kids on the train and then they'd pull up to a station out, you know, someplace in Great Britain and they'd say, hey, who will take these kids? So moms and moms could stay in the city and work and fathers would go overseas to fight

and the kids would be safe. At that time, there was even talk about sending the royal family off the island, perhaps to America, just to preserve the crown to fight for another day. because they thought the Germans were coming. The moment the government had planned for looked like it had arrived. But something unexpected happened. The people were already doing what that final poster was meant to instruct. They were already steady.

They had already adapted. They had already endured without being told. And officials said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. If we put this message out, we put these posters up, it might feel like we're patronizing. You know, it might sound like the government is lecturing people who have already carried a heavy enough load. They don't need our help. So the order came quietly down. Do not distribute this poster.

Destroy these posters. Most of them were all destroyed. They were burned. They were discarded or forgotten. The message meant for the darkest hour never saw the light. Until decades later, there was a small bookstore, Barter Books. It had just bought a whole. whole bunch of old books at some auction. And in this box of books, tucked away was a copy,

one copy of that poster. Nobody had ever seen before. It was an original. It was a survivor, a rare survivor. The store didn't really know the story. They just thought the design was beautiful, and the words were so simple, it kind of stuck with you. So they framed it and they put it up on a wall. And customers stopped, and they looked, and they asked. And a message designed for national collapse began spreading in a time that didn't look anything like war. I thought about this poster yesterday. I was sharing with you a list of things you could do in your own life to grow the muscle called courage in small ways, so it would be in shape when you need it.

And this poster came to mind because we're not living in a time where we have falling bombs, on us at least. But the worst case scenario that the British were worried about back in the day is happening today with us just in a different way. Their worst case was occupation. Enemy occupation. A breakdown of society, of courage, most importantly, loss of hope. I contend that's what we're living through right now. And not occupation from one enemy, but dozens. They're not marching in uniform. They're entering through screens, through noise, through constant pressure. Even the enemy that whispers doubt and fear in your mind while you're laying at bed at night trying to get to

sleep. It is occupying you. The reason why we're having a hard time fighting this war is because you can't see it. There's no battlefield. It's in your head. There's no single front line. There's no air raid sirens. There's, you know, no bombs going off. This is why it's so hard to fight this one. When you're physically under attack, your friends are dying. The streets are on fire. Buildings are being destroyed every day, day after day. Everyone knows it. And just like September 11th, it bonds people. It knits them together in a shared struggle. We don't even agree on the struggle. We're fighting a war that is easily deniable, a war where no leader is even clearly identified what we fight and who we fight. Our families are being destroyed from outside and inside as we

fight our own loved ones for some strange reason. There are no bombs, but make no mistake, every day we are fighting. Information that is overwhelming, lies and technology that's so well crafted now, you can literally no longer believe what you see or hear. Narratives that divide, economic pressure that's just grinding you every day. A generation growing up without any kind of clear foundation. a culture that has defined and redefined and then defined and redefined reality over and over again until you don't even know what to trust, you don't even know what's true or real.

And perhaps the worst of all, more and more of us surrender to the enemy of despair and apathy. I make the case we are living in occupied territory right now. But instead of land, it's a tension of thought, of inner life. the battlefield isn't out there. It's in each person every day deciding what do I believe, what do I fear, what do I focus on, what do I ignore? It is literally the battlefield of our minds. And that is the hardest kind of war to fight because bombs unite people.

Confusion isolates them. And that's why I thought of that poster yesterday. I think that's why that final message matters more now than it did then. It wasn't written for comfort. It was written for discipline to remind people. You don't have to solve everything. You don't have to absorb everything. You don't have to react to everything.

But you have to remain steady. You have to remain engaged in everyday life. Don't give in to despair or anger. Just live your life quietly. And that's not surrender. That's control. Remember, you choose every day. You choose deliberately. Show up for your responsibilities. Protect what's yours to protect. Speak the truth. Refuse to let chaos dictate your state of mind. The bombs that were sent to destroy everything they knew and loved were real, obvious, and uniting the British lifted, which is why that message was never needed. No one needed to tell them. That box of books. where that third never-seen poster was tucked into, was sold,

and coincidentally opened just a few months before 9-11, 2001. When the owners found it, as I said, they had it framed and they hung it on the wall of that bookstore. And it didn't take long before people started asking if they could buy a copy of it. And the owners made a few prints here and there, but then they finally started to print copies of it and mass. right around the time of the financial crash of 2008. That is when everybody saw it.

They couldn't print enough copies to keep up with the demand. It swept the world overnight. Today, that's a hun. I mean, you can find it on everything. It blankets the whole world. T-shirts, coffee mugs, aprons, refrigerator magnets. Anything you can print it on, it was printed on, and most people don't even know the story.

Most think now, I'm sure. It's a cool image, you know, catchy slogan, some slick urban outfitter's product department dreamed it up to make a buck. But the reason that connects with people is because it feels like and is the opposite of that. It's authentic. It's real. It's true. But even those who do know that it's authentic, probably think it's famous.

and been around forever. But it hasn't. Personally, I'd like to think it was preserved by chance and hidden away amongst the dusty books in some attic or basement simply waiting for our time, this time, to let us know clearly and simply. It's all going to work out. We're going to make it.

Stop overthinking everything. Stop frantically and fearfully trying to fix the whole world. All you really are. have to do is so simple. Like the poster said, that third poster, keep calm and carry on. You and I have something very basic but important in common. We are here today because our moms chose life. And that simple decision is the reason you're hearing my voice right now. It's a gift that you don't really stop to think about in the middle of our daily lives, but it is something every person deserves a chance to experience. And yet every day that chance is

taken away for so many by abortion. That's why pre-born exists. They provide free ultrasounds to expectant moms who are considering an abortion because when a mom hears that heartbeat and sees her baby for the first time, it changes everything. She usually chooses life. This isn't about arguments or talking points about giving somebody the opportunity to see here and choose themselves because life is a gift. And pre-born is working every day to make sure more people get to receive it. $28 will provide one ultrasound 140 will help five moms and every dollar helps save babies and share hope. So donate. Dial pound 250.

Say the keyword baby. That's pound 250 keyword baby or go to preborn.com slash Beck. That's preborn.com slash Beck. Sponsored by preborn. 10 seconds station ID. Oh, I love that story. I just love that story. And I love that poster.

I had no idea for the longest time. I had no idea that it was in a way that new. Did you know that? I didn't. There was a lot of insiders who were guessing. They liked the Paul Harvey style of you waiting until the very end to make the reveal. But there were some that were clued in a little early. I have to ask. I was. I have to tell you, I wrote that last night. Took me about two hours to write that last night. And I wrote that. And I actually, as a joke, the monologue is actually called what I wanted to put as the last line. And just remind you what you do. Hang in there, kitty. But I have to ask. It wasn't that poster. Did you write that monologue more for you or for us? Probably me. Why?

Because I know that the events of the world, you internalize a lot of the bad news that's going on in the world. And it does make it hard to do the show every day and try to lift the spirits of the audience and encourage them to keep calm and carry on. And one of the ways you do that is by living that yourself. Yeah, I didn't write it like that with that and thought. Mine, I wrote it because I just love, I love history and I love good stories. It was a great story.

More of that, please. Yeah. So, um, kind of makes me wish I had a copy of that poster here. We should have that poster someplace in our studios. I thought AGE, why hasn't AGE bought that yet? Um, you know, I think, I think I'm bidding on one of the original posters. in the next couple of weeks. One's coming up for auction someplace in the world.

Does Tanya know this? She does not. She does not. Well, she does now because she listens. Hey, sweetheart, guess what we're donating to the museum? Keep calm! And carry on, sweetie. All right.

More on the news of the day. What is really important in some of the stories are really big and some good news stories yesterday, but it takes such swings right now. We are a society that is schizophrenic. Have that next. You know, one of the things I like most and respect most about Patriot Mobile is that they don't hide who they are.

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It's 972 Patriot promo code back. Is there a difference between a Muslim and an Islamist? Take our poll now and join our amazing community of insiders at glenbeck.com slash torch. I'm going to give you some stories and then where they're all leading. These are all stories found in today's newsletter that I think are important. First of all, big gains for good guys. I think it's Denmark, the elections, gone well. Somebody who's like this, I think it's third term.

And he's saying, hey, this Islamic thing is not working out well for us. not so good for Maloney in the elections, but in Germany, the AFD party gained significant traction among young voters, particularly those who are 18 to 24 year olds. These are all of these. In fact, Denmark, I think, was up three times the vote that they had the time before. I mean, they've gained, tripled their win in distance. and it's it's remarkable. So something is happening. Younger generations, you know,

uh, we assume to, you know, to all be uniformly left are fragmenting politically, uh, especially around immigration and especially around, uh, you know,

national identity, et cetera, et cetera in, in Europe. We've seen it coming for a long time. It looks like things are changing there. Also a legal settlement this week. with META forces key federal agencies now to stop pressuring social media,

to remove or suppress lawful speech. They can't do it. It's a big fine coming. The agencies at the center of this, they were in regular contact with these platforms like Facebook and YouTube and others saying, you've got to stop this, got to silence these people. All of the internal communications were revealed in court.

and the officials weren't just flagging illegal content. You know this story. They were nudging companies to take down post. I wouldn't even say they were nudging. They were strong-arming these companies and saying you'll have a problem with the White House if you don't. And most of it was around, you know, COVID policy debate, but election integrity claims, dissenting viewpoints from, you know, credential to experts, all of these things. So now no more coercing platforms to remove lawful.

speech, coordinating censorship through back channels or using third parties to bypass the First Amendment limits. Those are now clearly ruled on. That doesn't mean, you know, they're going to stop. As soon as they get in, they'll be doing the same thing, you know. But we've been debating this for a very long time and now it's finally here. It was a big win yesterday. Also, another, I guess, revolution.

I mean, scandal exposed. According to intelligence reports, now under internal review, U.S. agencies have intercepted communications involving Ukrainian officials discussing a potential plan to route money towards the U.S. presidential re-election effort. Who would have seen this coming?

Except, oh, I don't know, you and me? We talked about this over and over again. where is all this money going? Where is all of this money going? You don't think that money is being aimed back directly here. Of course it is. Well, Tulsi Gabbard reportedly requested a full audit of the records from guess where, USAID, and they're trying to determine whether any federal funds were actually moved,

if the taxpayer dollars were involved, and whether the warrant, And this warrants criminal investigation and criminal referrals to the FBI. The answer on that one is, of course it does, but will they do it? Probably not. This is a really significant thing. They're never going to get to the bottom of it. My guess is, but it's deeper than what you're reading about now. A couple of other stories.

In Philadelphia, the district attorney there, Larry Krasner, isn't he a Soros person, Ricky? Can you look that up? I think he's a Soros person. He just warned ICE agents assisting with TSA operations during the staffing shortages. This is what he actually said. If you violate local laws or civil rights, I will put you in handcuffs. Well, here's my statement back to Larry. Good.

Yes. That's your job. He's a Soros guy. Yeah, he's Soros. Yeah. That's your job. They should go in handcuffs. if they're breaking the law or violating civil rights.

But let me add this, Larry, if you use your power for political purposes and you try to obstruct the federal agencies from doing their law, they're doing their work, you should be put in handcuffs. This is a growing problem. We are, you know, when different layers of government start treating each other as adversaries,

you don't really have a nation. You're back to a system that was almost like the what was the confederation of states or what did we call it the shoot. What is wrong with me? What is happening to me? It's Friday, right? No, it's Thursday.

You know, our first system of government before we had the Constitution, you know, that wasn't strong enough. We had 13 states, 13 colonies. that all wanted to do their own thing. And so we had federalism, but there was no government that would hold enough of the power

to hold it all together. And that's really what we're doing. We're going back to something that doesn't work. It just doesn't work. This is a really important warning sign. There is another dividing line that is growing and it's growing larger every day. We're becoming schizophrenic.

We really are. The Boston fraud case, the woman from BLM that, you know, Boston-tonian, you know, person of the year. What a surprise. She was defrauding people, embezzling funds from BLM. Gee, who would have seen that one coming? By the way, despite her conviction, no prison time for her, just ordered to repay the funds. And I'm sure that would happen to a Trump supporter or, you know, frankly, any average, no-name American, you know, just a plumber.

And speaking of plumbers, do we have the, was it Jimmy Kimmel? Let me play something that Jimmy Kimmel just said. Go ahead. Pick this up, please. Rudy Giuliani might not be with us much longer, but don't worry, Trump's got a whole new generation of thinkers lined up, including his newly confirmed Secretary of Homeland Security, Mark Wayne, Chuck Mike, Bruce Dave Mellon. Maybe Mellon's better. He is the now former senator of O'Land.

Oklahoma. Before he was elected to the Senate, Mark Wayne Mullen was a low-level MMA fighter and a plumber. That's right. We have a plumber protecting us from terrorism now. Oh my gosh. Let me have some more pet pat-A. Love A, love A, we've got a plumber now doing, you know, things that only thinking people can do because plumbers can't think. Oh my gosh, what a snot and snob. By the way, I think any plumber that has ever called to Jimmy Kimmel's house shouldn't show up. Let him show. Go ahead, Jimmy. Live without plumbers for a while.

You're going to love it. The other thing is, all of your so-called experts have gotten us to where we are. The plumbers weren't in charge. Your below experts. Your over-educated income poops. The ones who create all of them. Founders believed, our founders believed that, you know, the average person was important. The people who were actually doing the work, the farmers who had their hands in the soil every day.

Those were the important people. Those, not the scholars, not the professors. Those people were the ones that actually had the knowledge of how things should be run. Things should be run. But you go ahead. Don't worry about it. Jimmy. And by the way, what is it about plumbers? Wasn't it? I mean, now, now we have this plumber that can't run DHS. And before that, we had Joe the plumber. Something about plumbers, man, they absolutely hate. And by the way, I would be proud to tell my kid, do not become some sort of, don't don't get your doctorate in some, you know, eggheaded thing. Become a plumber. You're going to be far more successful and you'll last a lot longer.

in the grand scheme of things with AI coming, be a plumber, kids, be a plumber. By the way, DEI, we keep going back and forth. Have you noticed all of these things? We seem to take a few steps forward. The left is fighting back. And they're fighting back right now. And they're fighting back in the States in every way they can. If you think DEI is dead, let me tell you what just happened to the University of Southern California.

they just canceled a debate in the state's governor race less than 24 hours before it was supposed to happen because all of the candidates were white. Okay. All of the top polling candidates. Yeah, they happen to be white, but it's from the polls. What are you saying?

Also, there was a man with low polling who could have gotten lots of cash from Silicon Valley. They threw him into the debate. bait as well. But the problem wasn't the man who, you know, got a bunch of elite donors. No, no, no, they don't have a problem with that. He wasn't a plumber, was he? No, of course not. The problem was he was white and everybody on stage was white. And that's just, I mean, that's crazy. I mean, what is the difference between that and the mullahs? Honestly, what's the difference between that and any other dictatorial state that says, no, we'll only present the candidates.

baby. That is the exact same thing that is that is happening right here. The university cancels the event because the race, you know, is racist. It's a mess. It's a mess. My podcast this week is with Jacob Savage. He's got something to say on this. He wrote a piece for Compact Magazine called The Lost Generation. It's about an entire generation of white male millennials who just entered the workforce just in time for DEI to slam the door in their face. They can't get a job. Vance shared his writing and he said, a lot of people think DEI is lame diversity seminars or racial slogans at NFL games in reality.

It was a deliberate program of discrimination primarily against white man. This is an incredible piece that describes the evil of DEI and its consequences. That's from J.D. Vance talking about my podcast, the guy's on my podcast. It's true. people are men demoralized in the name of inclusion. And if you tried to stand up for him, you were a sexist or a racist. But you can't just turn this into grievance politics. So the question is, is there anything that we can do?

Or is it too late for most men? Most young men, is it too late? Jacob was literally told by a Hollywood writer's room. They really wanted to hire him. They thought he was really good. but they had too many white guys. That was his dream. He was told he couldn't do it because he was white and a male.

Isn't that still happening with the governor's race? Isn't that exactly what happened? DEI, it is not over yet. My podcast with Jacob, White males need not apply out today on Torch and this weekend wherever you get your podcast. All right. It's interesting how rarely

the things God calls us to do make us more popular. In fact, I can't think of anything that makes you more popular. God's saying, this is what you should do. It really doesn't work that way, you know? The point is not approval or comfort. It's whether you're willing to do what's right, even when it costs you something. Take blessing the Jewish people.

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I want to thank you so much for listening, supporting, and if you are a subscriber to Torch, thank you for doing that. We have been having a problem. I think we've had now four major attacks, DDoS attacks on this program, and we can only trace it so far and it has to go to the federal government

and they don't really do that kind of stuff unless it's, you know. However, if you've been listening to the program and if you've noticed us drop out at all on the radio, it appears that our broadcast is actually now being tampered with as well. So I would just like to say to anybody who's tampering, congratulations, thank you for doing me a favor. You are now messing with the federal communications of the United States of America.

You've now just brought in the federal government, and we'll be making those calls today. So thank you again. And thank you stations and, and subscribers and everybody else for putting up with it. Well, we don't know what it is or who it is. We can't track it. You can only go so far because it's well funded and very good,

but somebody does not want us talking about the things that we're talking about. And it's weird because it started when we started talking about Iran and started we it started i think our first day was with the with the crown prince of iran um they try to take us out uh on that day and did a pretty good job on that day and we keep morphing and they keep morphing um but um we will stay a step ahead of them and again thank you for welcoming in the resources of the united states of america i appreciate that good job good job all right we will see tomorrow. Thank you so much. Stay safe. Stay on your knees and may God save the Republic.