The Glenn Beck Program - 'Who Is Consistent'? - 6/20/18

Episode Date: June 20, 2018

Hour 1 Rachel Maddow's crocodile tears flow...better 'woke' than never?..Immigration policy that goes back to the 1990s...the 'border crisis' is just as important now as it was in 2014...Media + Con...gress = No Credibility ...Personal prayer requests from Glenn? ...Addicted to 'Womp Womp' Outrage?...'baby jails' are wrong   Hour 2 A transphobic Father's Day?...Twitter mob strikes again...How dare you, Kylie Jenner?  ...NY Times: Triple Jeopardy in College Sexual Assault Case Ends an NFL Career...former NFL player Keith Mumphery was drafted by the Houston Texans in 2015 only to be waived because of a sexual misconduct allegation...male students falsely accused of sexual misconduct beginning to fight back?   Hour 3 Leading the world back into daylight...Led by Nikki Haley, US withdrew from the UN Human Rights Council on Tuesday in protest of what it perceives as an entrenched bias against Israel and a willingness to allow notorious human rights abusers as members ...Cable news on a good day? ...The best of the best in their profession?...why does one's gender matter? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Blaze Radio Network On Demand. Glenn. I would ask that you would say a silent prayer for me to be able to control myself today. You know, there are days when your mother's words come to mind. If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all. Well, that would leave about three hours of very expensive airtime sounding like this, because I have nothing nice to say today.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I don't think I can take it much longer. Let's begin here. I think we can all agree, or can we, both left and right, that children are being caught up in an illegal immigration situation that is awful. If you can't agree with that now, you should check your card to see if you are a current member of the human race. Apparently, however, no one who is upset about the situation can agree on when it made them angry or upset, when they suddenly realized that this was a problem. You see, this weekend, it suddenly, even a little magically, began to matter to those on the left, seemingly out of nowhere. they all collectively realized together simultaneously that this was a problem. And they knew exactly who to blame.
Starting point is 00:02:21 It was Donald Trump. Then, last night, Rachel Maddo said this. This has just come out from the Associated Press. This is incredible. Trump administration officials have been sending babies and other young children. Oh, hold on. to at least three we put up the graphic of this
Starting point is 00:03:01 thank you do we have it no three tender aid shelters in south Texas lawyers and medical providers just okay we're going to stop here I think we all get the point she was emotional last night
Starting point is 00:03:15 on television and I am going to do something for her that her and her friends never did for me Rachel, I believe you were caught up in emotion last night because you love your country and you're worried about it. You're worried about the direction we're going in.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And it's overwhelming, isn't it? So I will give you a pass for being emotional on television. I understand. Here's what I cannot give you a pass on. Where was your outrage and emotion back in 2014? Because the same situation that is going on today is exactly the same stuff that you, Rachel, and the rest of the left, have only suddenly just now become woke on. it was going on back in July 2014, and it was arguably worse back then. Now, if you want to say, well, Glenn, somehow or another, it escaped the entire NBC newsroom back in 2014.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And I honestly didn't know it. But I do now. and because I am an intelligent journalist, I will do my homework, and it's not really hard to look back in time and see, hmm, this isn't Donald Trump. In fact, this policy is from the 90s. And there were those on the right, like me, that was there begging people like you to cover what was going on, but you would not for some reason. Now, if you want to say, Glenn, I didn't care then, but it wasn't because I didn't care about the kids or I was just trying to
Starting point is 00:05:40 protect my side. I honestly didn't see. Or I will even give you I was protecting my side and I was wrong. But please do not get on television. Don't you dare get on television and cry. and blame it on Donald Trump and try to get everybody to believe that it is the evil Donald Trump, your crocodile tears, which I happen to believe are true. But they become crocodile tears
Starting point is 00:06:11 if you don't look at the whole truth. Donald Trump could walk out on the street today and get hit by a bus, God forbid. And if he were hit by a bus, this situation would not change. And it's not because of, evil Mike Pence would then be in, you could take Hillary Clinton and walk her into the White House, sit her behind the chair, and it still would not change.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Now, if you want to be an adult and we'll have an adult conversation, let's have one. It was left up to people like me who people like you called a conspiracy theorist when we said the president was keeping children in cages. We had the photographic proof, but that wasn't enough for you. These kids are being used as pawns. They were being used as pawns. They've been used as pawns for as long as we can remember. They are human beings.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And for those at Breitbart, don't think that the American people don't see you. They don't see that you mocked me for having compassion at the time. You mocked me. for bringing soccer balls only to now report that how can this be so bad? Because President Trump is in charge, and now they, and I'm quoting you, have soccer balls to play with. Please, dear God, please, dear God, restrain my tongue today. It was important in 2014.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It is important today. And if we don't stop playing politics, it will be worse and even more important tomorrow. It's Wednesday, June 20th. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program. By the way, going back into July of 2014, Rachel Maddow opened her show with a riveting moment. monologue about how President Obama was hosting the World Cup viewing party.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Now, that was hard-hitting stuff. July 2nd, Mato acknowledged kids are on the border, but she references health and human services briefly and then rushes through to what actually happens to these kids. She made a vague statement about a policy that states where kids are taken after they arrive. She also blamed Congress for not acting. Now, let's see if there is any difference here. Now, Congress isn't the one that should act because that's what Donald Trump is saying. So you can't say that, Rachel.
Starting point is 00:09:43 You can't say that it is Congress that is failing to act. No, because you hate Congress. If Hillary Clinton would have won, you of course would have said that, that Congress needed to act. But because Trump won, now it is Donald Trump's policy. And Donald Trump needs to do it. And Congress doesn't even enter the picture. She went on throughout the week.
Starting point is 00:10:10 On July 7th, her top story was something on the Koch brothers. Immigration was only briefly mentioned at the end of the show. The trend continues through the week. I went to the border on July 19th. Did she cover it? Nope. Did she mention the kids on the border? Nope. Did she mention the kids on the border for the rest of the month? No, not at all. Not one word. Not one word.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Make up your mind, Rachel. Is this an important issue or not? Do you care about the immigrant kids because you've been caught in the middle of a broken immigration system? Or do you care about the immigrant kids because Donald Trump is now president? Do you care to fix it? Do you care to look at it, actually look at what it looks like? Or are you only willing to look at the guy with the extraordinarily stupid long red tie? This is just nothing more than a political stunt that is getting us addicted to outrage. because you read the news and you feel like I feel.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And you think someone has to say something. And here's what needs to be said. Shut up, both sides. Shut up and sit down. Neither of you care. Shut up and sit down. Now, let's have some adults. Work it out.
Starting point is 00:11:54 This is Congress. It's their job in. Congress. If they can't work it out, well, in this system is entirely broken. And who is to blame? Us. Us. Because we are the ones allowing them to play political games. We are the ones who keep switching sides because if we say one thing now, it will hurt our side. It'll hurt our guy. It'll hurt our team. That's what they were doing. Now too many other. of us are doing it. What do you say? What do you say? Americans who are not in the middle, but they're in the middle of two children that are arguing. I don't mean politically in the middle.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I mean the people who are in the middle of two children that cannot take either child anymore. I don't care who started it. I just wanted to end. I just want it to end. We are parents of this country. And the two political parties are the children. And they are pitting mom and dad against each other. And we are too stupid to see it. Let me ask you this, Rachel Maddow. I believe your emotion was real. I know.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you and Jimmy Kimmel never, ever gave to me. I know what it feels to be so concerned about the direction of the country that it's ripping your heart out. I know it. So I will give you the benefit of the doubt. But I do have to say, I wonder, I really wonder how someone can cry about a baby being taken away from their mother. Now, I find that emotional and horrific. But I'm also one that is very upset and emotional when it comes to seeing videos of cold-hearted people casually discussing over lunch, the cutting up of children and selling their parts for cash. Were you crying over that?
Starting point is 00:14:37 Did that hit you emotionally? And if not, you should ask yourself why. Were you emotionally upset when we were having a discussion about how Down syndrome babies have no quality of life and that we should abort those children? Were you there and were you emotional? Were you as at least as outwere? as you are today with that piece of crap Lewandowski with what he said last night on television. Oh, you didn't hear that? Oh, well, let's fight over which rat, which diseased rat we're rooting for. Let's play both sides and then see which one of these diseased rats we go. Oh, he's on my side.
Starting point is 00:15:31 They're both rats. They're both bad guys with bad. things. They're both hyping things and neither of them mean anything. They're just playing on our emotion. But which one of these guys are we going to side with this time? It's funny because I watched that last night and I thought to myself, huh, here we are. Switching sides yet again. I have absolutely no listeners left. This is like this. craziness. Oh, there's going to be tons of listeners are going to see what happens here. You know, at what point do you, I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:31 do you just explode on the air? Oh, yeah. No, I could have a brain aneurysm today. I can't take it. It does seem like one of those days. You okay? I think once I get past the Lewinsky thing, maybe, or not the Lewinsky thing, maybe, no, not Lewinsky. Lewandowski. I think I can, I might be able to handle it.
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Starting point is 00:18:41 I don't like it when we label people. I don't like calling people names. As I said on the beginning of the show, please pray for me today. Let me use this unbelievable vote. vocabulary that I can somehow or another read all the time, but I can never actually use all of those words that I read every day and let them flow out of my mouth in a much more eloquent way than I am expressing myself almost every day to my embarrassment. But the Lewandowski thing comes up next and I'm going to control myself this time.
Starting point is 00:19:29 I think. I don't know. Oh, I think America's believing you on that. I don't think anybody is questioning whether you're going to be able to control yourself today. I don't think there's any doubt in anyone's mind that something could go horribly wrong at any point during the program today. And then, before we go into round three, we're going to take a break at the top of the hour and give you something else that is just absolutely mind-boggling. An NFL player, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:57 NFL player. That's amazing. that has been accused and condemned without ever being able to defend himself. Glenn, Back, top of the hour. This is the Glenn Beck program. See, every day I promise myself I'm not going to get upset by the clowns and wrapped up into the circus. And yet, somehow or another, I seem to get wrapped up in the circus every day.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Because my head explodes. You can only take so much. And then your head explodes. And blood starts just shooting out of your eyes. And, you know, that's hard to clean off your glasses all the time. I go through so many shirts because, oh, Glenn, is that ketchup on your shirt? No, I was just listening to Chuck Schumer say that the president should fix this with a flick of his pen. That's a quote.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And then I started to think, wasn't Chuck Schumer just recently saying that the president has too much power and is doing things by decree and could quickly become. a dictator. And so then the blood shoots out of my eyes and it's all over my shirt again. And I think to myself, I shouldn't listen to any of this nonsense. But I do so you don't have to. So I was just barely, barely. I was, I was quite honestly. I was anemic. I lost a lot of blood from the blood shooting out of my eyes and my ears and a little out of my nose and some right directly spraying out of my butt when I saw Rachel Maddow last night
Starting point is 00:21:38 because I couldn't take the hypocrisy of it. And then I saw a clip from Fox News where they thought it would be a good idea to sit down with a Democratic strategist.
Starting point is 00:21:54 A Democratic strategist. Gee, I wonder what a Democratic strategist is going to say. Let's find out. tonight with Martha McCallum. Why? You don't know what they're going to say? Of course you know what they're going to say.
Starting point is 00:22:10 But let's sit that Democratic strategist down with Corey Lewandowski. Oh my gosh. Now there's two people I want to have dinner with. The Democratic strategist and Corey Lewandowski. Oh, I can't wait. Which one is going to say something more outrageous? Which one is going to make me go, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Which one will have me lose my values first? So here's what happened. Can we play the clip from Martha and Corey Lewandowski? I read today about a 10-year-old girl with Down syndrome. Stop for a second. Stop for a second. This is the Democratic strategy who read today about a girl with Down syndrome. Now, Stu, why would they single out this? girl who's 10, I'm sure there's lots
Starting point is 00:23:04 of kids who are 10. Right. Why would they single out a kid who's 10 with Down syndrome? Could it be? Could it be that they believe a child with Down syndrome would invoke more emotion? More emotion.
Starting point is 00:23:20 If you tell the story of their sadness, then the normal everyday kid. Okay, all right. Well, let's see what happens when he read this story. Go ahead. I read today about 10-year-old girl with Down syndrome who was taken from her mother
Starting point is 00:23:36 and put in a cage. I read about a, they just say want-want to a 10-year-old with Down syndrome being taken from her mother? How dare you? How dare you? How dare you? Oh, the world is but a stage and we are merely its players. Here comes the scene, the apex of
Starting point is 00:23:58 Act 2. The conflict between the two. Wah! Mwa! Yes. Our hero, or is he a villain? Our hero, because he is sticking up for the rule of law, the villain, because he
Starting point is 00:24:15 says, he comes in set to strike to take the villain who is the Democratic strategist. We know nothing about him, but he's a democratic strategist, so we know exactly what he's going to say. He's now invoking The Tender Tender Story of a 10-year-old child with Down syndrome. When Lewandowski says
Starting point is 00:24:45 Wah-Wa, his response is, Did you just say what-wa? Now, there's a sentence I never thought I would hear from an adult. Did you just say what-wa? When Lewandowski says, yes, Oh, the action begins to heat up. That's when our Democratic strategist stands up
Starting point is 00:25:07 says, how dare you, sir? How dare you? How dare you say that? How dare you? Oh, and the righteous rise up to condemn Cory Lewandowski for his waa-wha. Now, any objective viewer, let's say you're a theater critic. You might sit there, out there in the dark all by yourself watching this play who people have said it's fantastic you must rush to see it then you may be sitting there thinking this is the biggest tripe i've ever seen this is the the worst script the worst actors the most unbelievable storyline i've ever seen it is completely unremarkable because if you remember earlier in Act 1, our hero, now villain, who was on the side of the Down Syndrome children, was on the good side in Act 1, and the Democratic strategist and his clan, and I use the word clan, carefully here, the Democratic strategist and his clan, all clamored to get the audience to believe that Down syndrome children have no quality of life.
Starting point is 00:26:50 They have no value. In fact, we should kill all Down syndrome people. It was just in Act 1. And the theater critic, You, sits in the back and says, how can the audience be expected to believe the line? How dare you, sir, coming from the same people who were saying we should kill all of them in act one. It's not like it was another play that you had to buy a ticket to that happened years ago. It happened in the same theater just a short while ago.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And as the theater critic, you're also puzzling and puzzling until your puzzler is. or thinking to yourself, how is the audience expected to believe? Wah, from the guy who just in Act 1 was saying, No, no, these precious children must have a right to live. You mustn't kill them. They are the best among us. So you as the theater critic must now choose.
Starting point is 00:28:07 You know, oh, you know everyone loves this play. So you leave the darken theater, where people have risen to their feet in cheers and thrown tomatoes at the same act. And you leave confused scratching your head only to make your way muddled and befuddled to your office where you are now looking over the city in its light and you think to yourself, is it only me?
Starting point is 00:28:52 Because you know if you pan this movie or this play, you are going to lose half of your audience. Your readers will be up in arms. If you praise this play, the other half will be up in arms. And you wonder what to do, what to do. And so, as a theater critic, you think to yourself, maybe I will just quote Shakespeare, all the world is but a stage, and we are merely its players.
Starting point is 00:29:39 this critic has had enough. And it's an end of round two. There is a knockout punch coming. I believe in round three, which is just around the corner. Don't miss the next exciting episode. Car shield. Car shield is something that I have for my older cars.
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Starting point is 00:31:27 CarShield.com. Promocode Beck, deductible may apply. So now we have to climb into the ring. We have to climb into the ring for the third round. Because fighting is in rounds. And you don't really count a winner until the last punch is thrown. So will there be a knockout punch? Well, the media is. going for one.
Starting point is 00:32:03 They're not looking for a knockout punch on the truth. They're not looking for a knockout punch on the border or for the children or anything else. They're just looking for a knockout punch of Donald Trump. Okay. Could we throw a knockout punch, not in defense of Donald Trump? Because I don't know if you've noticed this. He didn't really need anybody to defend him.
Starting point is 00:32:24 He's pretty capable of doing that himself. Could we throw a knockout punch for the truth without sophisticated logic? like, Muwa, could we do that? Well, let's go back in the time machine
Starting point is 00:32:45 to the first act. If you remember, in the first act, our heroes and villains were on other sides because Obama was in office. There were a few people that were generally unnoticed.
Starting point is 00:33:01 One of them was an immigration attorney in 2015. he had just met with the president in a rope line. And he said at the time, and he's brave enough to say it again. At the time, he, in the rope line, thanked the president for DACA.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Then, he said, as he shook the president's hand, he asked him to reverse course and close the for-profit baby jails, using his words. Those are family detention centers. Using a for-profit baby jail, I'm sure, would have made him a conspiracy theorist at the time. Of course, if that same guy would say that today about Donald Trump, the same people that would call that a conspiracy theory back then would today say absolutely.
Starting point is 00:34:06 And he doesn't go far enough. This attorney was looked at by President Obama. And President Obama responded, Are you an immigration lawyer? He said, yes, I am. He expected then for the president to say, you know, thank you very much. I really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:34:40 We're going to keep up the fight. I'm working on it. Thanks for your support. You're right. This is a right. You know, this is what we have to do is stop these baby jails. Instead, here's what the president said. When he said, we have to stop these baby jails.
Starting point is 00:35:04 And there was a woman next to him saying, end the family detention. Barack Obama said, quote, I'll tell you what we can't have. We can't have these parents sending their kids here on a dangerous journey and putting their lives at risk. End quote. He wrote about that exchange in 2015, said he was disturbed by what the president's response was. Not again. I'm working on it.
Starting point is 00:35:39 But justifying saying, this is the only solution. Now, is this attorney, uh, Andrew free? Is this attorney a guy who agrees with me? I highly doubt. Is he a guy who's a fan? Probably not. Is it a guy I would agree with? I'm having a hard time imagining.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I bring him up today because he at least is consistent. Now, we disagree. on what should be done. I'm sure he believes we should just let people come across the border. I do not. But we both agree that these, quote, baby jails are wrong. And that we should not be separating kids from their parents or, as we pointed out in 2014,
Starting point is 00:36:42 siblings from one another, leaving them entirely alone. It's wrong. Inhumane. Who is consistent? Glenn. Back. Mercury.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Well, welcome to America. Welcome to being human in 2018. May I give you a question that we all need to chew on today? Should you tell your father, happy Father's Day, even though he is now a she and no longer. your father, but now one of your mothers. Yes, Father's Day was four days ago, but the story is just weird enough that I think we need to report on. One enjoyable line to read was this gem from the Hollywood gossip, quote, Caitlin is a woman and a transgender icon, but she is and also always will be the father of her six children.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Now imagine reading that to someone 10, even five years ago. Honestly, there is something nice about it. But the strangeness of it having ever been written kind of overpowers the emotional impact it might bring. Kylie Jenner wrote in the Instagram caption under the pre-transition pictures of Bruce Jenner, so lucky to have you. Now, as we all know, she, dead named Bruce Jenner. Caitlin, you don't do that.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Now, I know we risk sounding like a tabloid by the, you know, mere hint of even having mentioned this story, but the important element is the cultural sway that happens to be occurring. The original story was that a band of disgruntled Twitter users got outraged by the supposed transphobic remarks of Jenner's daughter. What we should be saying is who the hell cares? Who cares what one Jenner says to another? And more importantly, and on a far deeper level,
Starting point is 00:39:03 who cares what some anonymous Twitter user has to say? When are we going to stop playing into the hands of the Twitter mob? Who are they? At the moment, they have it pretty good. They have a nifty little relationship with the mainstream media. One or two Twitter users get outraged by any given thing left, right, doesn't matter. In this case, Jenner and supposed transphobia. In return, the mainstream media used the Twitter comment as a source.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Then a larger Twitter audience points to the article itself as proof that there is some kind of systematic justice at play. Now, it's a closed market currency where the negative feedback loop of proof and evidence is composed of completely faulty accusations. But heck, isn't it just great to be alive today? It's Wednesday, June 20th. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program. All right. Speaking of mob justice, let me tell you the story of Keith Mumfrey. He's a former NFL player.
Starting point is 00:40:27 And because I don't know anything about sports, do I watch you introduce him? Oh, wow. Yeah, he played for the Houston Texans, drafted in 2015, the fifth round. He, good punt returner, good kickoff returner. But now, no longer in the NFL, not because he wasn't a good player,
Starting point is 00:40:45 but because of a completely different reason, because he was accused of doing something terrible, and it was left to defend himself, not one, not two, but at least three times, and now seemingly a fourth time from this accusation that didn't seem to play out in any of the previous investigations. Okay, we have Keith Mumfrey on the phone. He is the NFL player.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And Andrew Miltonberg, he is the attorney for Keith, also on the phone because this is an ongoing case. Gentlemen, welcome. Thank you for having us this morning, Glenn. Sure. Keith, how are you, sir? I'm doing good. How are you? Well, better than you, unfortunately. What's happening to you is quite amazing.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Can you tell us how this whole thing started? Actually started. It was actually a day before my pro day. I had actually met this girl on Tinder, but I had met on Tinder months back. And we actually got a chance to meet up and she invited him to her home. but before she invited me to her room she basically made it known you know like what I was coming over there for when I got over there she started undress like right in front of me so she came over there and sat down and um we got it a little it was a situation and the whole situation
Starting point is 00:42:15 was basically about to come she didn't want to have sex with a condom so that's when I kind of you know told her like, hey, it's time for me to remove myself on the wrong. You know, I don't do that. I have sex with a condom with protection, and she got affairs with me. So we had a couple words, and then that's when I left. And then I got a call, you know, basically the next day. So, Andrew, can you tell us about the evidence that backs this story up? Well, there really is no evidence, and let me take the reverse, that backs the complainant's story up at all. And Keith, as you know, was found not responsible. The events occurred and allegedly occurred in March of 2015. And what is she charging?
Starting point is 00:43:05 Is she charging non-consensual sex? A rape, in other words. Okay. And there was an investigation by two separate investigators at the school. The investigators spent several months looking into every aspect of this. They found in September that they couldn't hold Keith responsible because there was not enough for, there was no evidence. At the same time, there was an ongoing police investigation. And at the end of the police investigation, which was also in September, the police decided that based on, and I'm reading directly from their report, based on a thorough review of all
Starting point is 00:43:51 evidence, this case cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. So by November, by October of 2015, both the school and police after considerable investigations found him not responsible. Okay. So then what happened? And let me say during that period of time, there were a couple of pieces of evidence that corroborated Keith's story. Keith willingly, without a lawyer at the time, his phone over to the police. They did a forensic review of it because there were certain texts on it that were important to the story. He gave a DNA swab to the police, again on his own without a lawyer or representative. So he cooperated fully with this investigation. Soon after that, the young woman files an appeal, if you will. she wants the school to reopen the case.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Okay, before you get there, did she, you know, Keith just said it was very clear what I was coming over for. Can you clarify that? Also, I understand she said she was 12 shots in and was not in control of herself. Well, she may have said that, but the security tape from that period of time clearly shows her walking down. the hall with no appearance of any inebriation. Her gate was fine. She wasn't falling to one side. She didn't have to hold onto the wall.
Starting point is 00:45:32 No one was holding on to her. She walked a straight line just like anyone else may. Okay. And that's in the police report. Yes. And what's really interesting is notwithstanding what she says, she completely sought Keith out. You know, we have to remember.
Starting point is 00:45:48 this was pro-day at MSU. Keith was clearly going to be drafted. It was a big deal in MSU that he was back there for Pro-Day, and she sought him out. And the text messages or the evidence that she knew what was going to happen, is that without getting graphic? Is that kidding graphic? I think it's fair to say that she had a result. in mind when she went to see him. Okay. Very gentlemanly way of
Starting point is 00:46:24 saying that. Yes. All right. Okay. So then she appeals. They found nothing. And this of course clears, you know, because if there was an ongoing investigation, if there was questions about this, the Texans are not drafting you. Right? Keith, I mean, this, this, they have cleared this now for you to be drafted
Starting point is 00:46:40 and this story continues kind of in the background. Right. So Andrew, tell us then she brings it up again. She brings it up again, and here's what's interesting now. She brings it up again. There's no new evidence at all.
Starting point is 00:46:58 And the basis for an appeal at MSU is either that there is new evidence or that there's been some procedural misstep. Well, we know that two investigators spent several months on this. We know that the police spent several months on this. We know that he gave a DNA swab, they reviewed his cell phone, and we know there's no new evidence. But what's happening at this period of time, which is very interesting, is this is around the period of time that MSU is starting to have to deal with the Larry Nassar debacle. and that's first becoming around this period of time, beginning of 2016, it's first taking shape and people are realizing that it's a significant large-scale issue.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And so the school attempts to get in touch with Keith. It's unclear how they tried to get in touch with him, other than sending an email to his no longer, his school account, which he no longer uses. He was pretty easy to find at that point, and all you had to do was look at the roster on a Saturday or Sunday for the Houston Texans. And in fact, he was invited back to the school by the football department to play in an alumni golf tournament. So it's a mystery to me how the school could not find him.
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Starting point is 00:50:26 promo code back. Welcome to the program. We're talking to Keith Mumfrey. He is a former NFL. player for the Houston Texans and his attorney, Andrew Miltonberg, who is laying out this case of not just double jeopardy, but triple jeopardy in a college sexual assault case that ended Keith's career. And all evidence shows that he has been railroaded, and this is nothing close to justice.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Okay, so we had the school dismiss it. they then and the police dismiss these charges after two months or so of investigation. They close the case. Keith goes on. He is now drafted for the Texans. And she opens the case again because this particular university is having problems with, you know, a doctor that was checking gymnasts and a horrible human being. So they want to, you know, flex their virtue muscles, and they go into double jeopardy with this girl, and they open it up again.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And that's correct. And it's interesting you say that, that they want to flex their muscles during this period of time. The two people that interviewed and did the investigation for the school, for Keith's case, suddenly left in early, November, and it's unclear why. And it was at that same time, the complainant, the young woman asked to reopen the case. And it was assigned then. The case was assigned to someone completely knew, someone who we believe was given exactly
Starting point is 00:52:26 what you said, which is flex their moral muscle. and so they spend the next four months, so from November to April, re-investigating, reopening the case, having a hearing, none of which Keith attends because none of which he knows about. And there, again, no new evidence. So he's tried not just without him being there, without any defense for him being there. Correct.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And again, not hard to find. I mean, the football department or the athletic department knew exactly where to find him when they wanted him to play in an alumni tournament. In fact, that's the way he found out that he had been expelled. He was playing in an alumni tournament for the football program, and someone came up to him and said, wait, you can't be here. You were expelled. And that's how he learned of this. Keith, Keith, how did that moment go?
Starting point is 00:53:39 Oh, man, that's a moment hard to explain, but I was hurt. I didn't know, you know, I'm living in the high of my life, you know, I'm drafted and I come back, you know, to, you know, basically do some charity for Michigan State, and they hit me with that. So I'm like, lost, I don't know what to do. I'm saying here like, you know, what's the next step? So what did you do? When you heard that, what happened next?
Starting point is 00:54:07 Is this when the Texans find out about it? No. Okay. All right. So then what happens? Andrew. There are multiple, supposedly multiple attempts to reach him, multiple portions of the investigation where he was supposed to be interviewed,
Starting point is 00:54:30 where he never showed up. He's tried in abstentia, if you will. and found responsible on this appeal. So it's a second trial. He's found responsible in abstentia. Did the court, did the school ask the police department to reinvestigate? Or was this not only a school investigation? It was only the school investigation.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Okay, good. And perhaps I'm being overly conspiracy-minded, but I can't help but think that you know, as the Nassar, Dr. Nassar problem is unfolding and we're starting to see that it's not just one Olympic gymnasts, but it's dozens of world-class gymnasts that are involved. I think the school, at this point, of course, has no more use for Keith Mumfrey. He's not winning the cotton bowl for them. He's not catching passes all over the field.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And they hang him out to dry, and he becomes, a sacrificial lamb in this attempt to show that the university is, in fact, hard on people accused of sexual misconduct. You could make that case, or I think an easier case to make, would be that they wanted to make sure that they were hard on this, so she wouldn't go out in front of the press, and say they dismiss this case, showing that they don't care, that this isn't just an idea. incident, this happens to be running rampant through the university. I think that's a very easy case to make.
Starting point is 00:56:13 I think that's a very real reality. And that goes to what you was speaking before, about how quickly by Twitter, you know, a rumor like this can take off or an allegation like this can take off and literally destroy lives. And that's what happened here, Keith, the Detroit Free Press somehow found out about this. The day after they wrote about it, the Houston Chronicle,
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Starting point is 00:58:29 So the school reopens this case. The police do not. They have no new evidence. The school has no new evidence. But they decide to take a strong stand. And I believe this, it's very easy to make the case that this was the school just trying to silence this girl. So there are no more accusations that they sweep these things under the rug. they convict him without him being able to pose any kind of defense.
Starting point is 00:59:02 He doesn't even know this is going on. They ask him, the same school, ask him to come up and do something for charity. He goes to the game and he's going to play and he is told that he's been expelled by somebody on his team. He doesn't know anything about it. The attorneys now get involved and the press gets involved and they start. asking questions like how did the Houston Oilers hire this rapist? How did they not know? Do I have the story correct, Andrew? You have it correct and you did it justice telling it in such a clear and succinct way as you did. Okay, so tell us what happens now. So Keith, the day after the Houston Chronicle runs this
Starting point is 00:59:48 story questioning how the Houston Texans could not have known this, even though, as you aptly said, Keith didn't know about it. Keith's called into his GM's office and waived. And at that time, and Keith will tell you that he had had two with good years and was slated to be number three on the depth chart as far as wide receivers go. And you know what's really more amazing about this story is what, and Keith will tell you, how much he overcame from his childhood, where he came from. self-taught to become an academic, all-American, an outstanding athlete, and escape what is, by all accounts, a very rural town in southern Georgia that seems to be one, and I visited him there, that would be hard to get out of. And he has this success. They have a Keith Mumfrey day in his town. He's the pride and joy of this small, town. And now not only is his NFL career over, but he can't even get into a graduate school
Starting point is 01:01:01 if he wanted to continue studies and get a master's degree somewhere. So Keith, a couple questions. What was it like? I mean, you're a guy who, you know, obviously, had put everything into football and you were very excited about it. You're on an NFL team. You're doing really well. What was that day like when you found out they're not going to back you on this false charge? Oh man. It was tough. It was like, you know, the wallers came crashing down. You know, it's how I feed my family. And, you know, growing up, seeing my mama struggle and working the Tyson chicken corporation making $10 an hour for 20 years. Like, that's all I can think about. Like, the people who took care of me growing up.
Starting point is 01:01:53 and now I don't have a way to pay them back and help them financially. So that was one of the main reason, because I always, you know, prayed to God and, you know, asking, like, you know, let me to be the breadwinner. So for me to be a man and not be able to be a breadwinner, it sucked, not being able to take care of my family and continue to take care of my family. So, Andrew, where, where does it go from here? Well, even if I have one second more, Keith, you know, Keith said something to me that I'd like him to say, which is how important this is not just for him anymore, but for that whole town and community. Keith, you've been very eloquent to talking about that. Okay. Yeah, it's big to me.
Starting point is 01:02:43 You know, see, I'm the first person from my hometown to go to the NFL. Second person professionally. The first one was Roger Kingdom. I was second. So, you know, a lot of little kids, you know, look up to me where I'm from. And where I'm from is hard to dream. We don't have that many influences. So I felt like, you know, there's a lot of me to be in a situation to help influence kids
Starting point is 01:03:08 and to show them that it's not only about sports. It's also about academic. And, you know, you've got to continue to push. And if you want something really bad, you've got to work for it. So I felt like through my influence, that was my platform to help encourage other kids. Because you know you have some kids that are good kids, then you have some kids who need a little extra help. And when an adult or somebody who comes around with some influence and speaks some words and encourage me in that kid, yeah, and the kid takes off, the kid takes flight. So I felt like I was divorced for a lot of, you know, underprivileged kids.
Starting point is 01:03:49 around my area. Keith, what have you learned from this? What have I learned? Yeah. You know, I, you know, through the thick and the thin, you know, through the trials and tribulations, like you can't give up. You got to continue to push.
Starting point is 01:04:10 And the truth will always kind of like, you know what I mean? Like, everything will be good as long as you don't give up. So my goal is, you know, no matter what this life brings in me, I'm going to continue to move forward and keep it positive every day, every day because of where I'm from. And, you know, just being able to see, like, hey, I made it out of here, I can definitely go catch more these blessings and continue to chase greatness. Have you deleted Tinder as an app? I had 10 years.
Starting point is 01:04:46 So where are you taking this now, Andrew? How is justice served? So we filed a complaint in federal court in Michigan. The school has been served with the papers. We haven't heard back from them yet. They still have a couple of weeks before the deadline is for them to respond. And I'm interested to see how they do respond. There has been within the legal community, an outpouring of support.
Starting point is 01:05:15 I've gotten several dozen calls from lawyers asking to help out on the case, whatever they could do for Keith. A couple of NFL trainers have reached out to Keith to help keep him in shape without charging him during this period of time. We'd like to get Keith's name cleared so he can get back into the NFL, or at the very least, have an opportunity to have an academic career. And so that's where we're headed. How concerned are you as an attorney that we have these kangaroo courts popping up in universities that are trying people for things that should be tried in a court of law? And when the police say there's not enough, they just take it on themselves and try it in this case in absentia. Well, it's interesting you say that.
Starting point is 01:06:08 You know, we've been seeing the effects nationwide of the Me Too movement over the last 18. 10 months. And no one can say that it's not important that victims of sexual assault, people who believe they've been sexually assaulted, need a voice and a safe space to come forward. But this has been going on for several years on campus, and the process by which universities do is a professional. There's no thoughtful investigation in most cases. In most cases, there is a desire to find the young man responsible. And the thought is that this will really not have an impact on the person's life that he'll just go find another school to go to, but we want to get him out of our school.
Starting point is 01:07:00 But we've learned through one or two other cases, and now, more importantly, through Keith's case. It's not so easy. The school can come back and grab you life after you've left the premises. And I think it's very frightening. And that's what makes Keith's case so unique is that he was pulled back at the pinnacle of his profession. Andrew, there is one story that broke yesterday out of Bay County, Michigan, where a judge just put a woman into jail for 45 days. She could serve as much as 220 days because she said she was raped at Delta College. she was lying about it.
Starting point is 01:08:00 They almost put a guy who was out on parole, who happened to be on college campus at that time. They almost put him in jail. And then she started to change her testimony, and they found out that she was lying. Does that bode well for you in Michigan? I think it bodes well for not just for our case with Keith, but for the hope that,
Starting point is 01:08:26 nationwide, people start to look at allegations of sexual assault a little differently, and they start to take a harder look at the evidence and the process by which they are essentially condemning the accused. Can you prove that she was, I mean, she can't prove that this happened. It sounds to me that the evidence is pretty good, that she was lying about it. can you prove, and do you think it's important to put her behind bars for false accusations? I say that's something that we're certainly looking into. It hasn't been Keith's focus because he wants to get back to the NFL.
Starting point is 01:09:16 But it's certainly something to consider because these allegations, which really started after this, young woman called her dad and her dad who lived close to the school, drove to the school and saw his little girl in distress and did what dads do when they see that. But that started this whole wave of problem going forward. I'd like to see some ramifications, whether they're criminal or civil, something for people who lie about sexual assault and misconduct and rape. Andrew, thank you very much. I appreciate it. And Keith Mumfrey will keep watching the story. And please keep us up to date on any action on that. It is a compelling and frightening, frightening story. Thank you so much, gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Thank you for having this. You believe him? I mean, yeah, you look at the evidence of, because this is not just us talking about this. This is an extensive New York Times. story written about this as well in which they go through all the evidence and it just you know when you have multiple investigations and you're cleared that should be the end of it
Starting point is 01:10:41 that's a very basic concept of justice of the United States. Not to mention you made this point and I'm so glad you did because colleges are not supposed to be investigators of crimes. We have a legal system that's supposed to not investigators. They're not
Starting point is 01:10:58 judge, jury and execution. It doesn't make any sense. All these Title IX cases that go through. Anybody who is, anybody who is, you know, who says, hey, Sharia law, we can't have a separate court system going on. Well, that's it. It's just not ruled by Sharia law. It's the law of the higher education institutions. All right.
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Starting point is 01:13:34 Because a lot of rapists are usually just talked out of it. If they go to a program at a college, they're just going to be like, you know, I was going to be a rapist. But, you know, I'm going to go the other way now because of this wonderful program. What they're actually finding in the study is these things are backfiring. What the study found was that high risk males may in fact be more likely to engage in sexual violence as a result of these interventions. One of the papers from 2015 suggests that when people perceive their freedoms are threatened they may resist such influence and assert autonomy
Starting point is 01:14:10 by moving in the opposite direction to the perceived influence. Studies from 2014 from an anti-smoking and drinking campaign corroborate this. When high-risk people's choices are threatened, the risky behavior is reinforced, not lessened. Holy mother. These, you know, these crazy programs that are supposed to stop the rape culture going on may actually be making whatever is there worse.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Perfect. Perfect. Yay. All right. Let's take a vote. You know, an objective, quantifiable count. How many resolutions has the UN Human Rights Council adopted condemning dictatorships? Well, that's actually pretty easy. If you can define dictatorship. Well, one metric is the UN Human Rights Council condemnation. How many times has the United Nations issued a human rights violation, a condemnation, to China? Now, they have a higher body count than, you know, any official, professional call of duty player that has been playing it for a millennia. How many against China? Zero.
Starting point is 01:15:28 How about Venezuela, where socialism is devouring its own in the cruelest, most unsettling ways imaginable. Zero. How about Russia? Home of the unsettling cruelty, rampant censorship, murder, actual homophobia. Zero. Iraq, zero. Turkey, zero. Iran, zero. Cuba, zero. Pakistan. Zero. According to the UN Human Rights Council condemnations, 2006, 2016, none of these nations were or is as dangerous as we imagine. Well, at least none of them, you know, faced any kind of condemnation.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Not a single one. Meanwhile, one country in particular has faced unbelievable scrutiny and fury. Somalia, right? No, no, no, no, no. North Korea. You know, they've got the concentrate. No, mm-mm-mm-mm.
Starting point is 01:16:27 68 human rights counsel condemnations for Israel. In fact, the number of total United Nations condemnations against Israel outnumbers the total condemnations against all other countries combined. The only other country that even comes close to Israel 68 is Syria with 15. So now people say, we can't withdraw from the world. Yes, we can. If the world has gone insane, yes, we can. We should.
Starting point is 01:17:07 We should lead the world back into daylight and out of darkness, lies, and deceit. The Trump administration withdrew from the United Nations Human Rights Council on Tuesday in a protest of what it perceives as an entrenched bias against Israel and a willingness to allow notorious human rights abusers as members. Nikki Haley at the council on Tuesday said, quote, let's remember that the Hamas terrorist organization has been inciting violence for years
Starting point is 01:17:43 long before the United States decided to move our embassy. This is what's endangering the people of Gaza. Make no mistake, Hamas is pleased with the results from yesterday. She added, no country in this chamber would have, act with more restraint than Israel has, end quote. Now, maybe, just maybe, more people should start listening to Haley. Hopefully they will, but it's not likely.
Starting point is 01:18:10 But, but it's no crime, at least today, to at least hold out hope. It's Wednesday, June 20th. You're listening to the Glenn Beck program. Hmm. So, Stu, who's on the United Nations Human Rights Council? These are the ones that are saying, we are going to make sure that we protect human rights all around the world. Heads of children's hospitals, Mother Teresa's, relatives, Gandhi, Part 2, the sequel. No.
Starting point is 01:18:57 No. No. Barundi, is it Burundi. Egypt Oh, okay, they're great Rwanda Cuba Venezuela
Starting point is 01:19:10 Venezuela China I wonder why they didn't have any condemnations India Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates
Starting point is 01:19:21 It's a good group That's a good group You want to protect human rights Those are the people to do it for you Well a lot of them have had a lot of experience with violations of human rights So they might be able to recognize. Takes one to no one?
Starting point is 01:19:34 There you go. Possibly. It's amazing. Possibly. I can't believe the people who are defending this. It's just like the media is using this very much as a, you know, people don't know this. They don't know that Venezuela's on this commission, right? But when you say the U.S. is dropping out of a human rights commission, it just sounds terrible.
Starting point is 01:19:58 And if you leave it there for the average person. I'm not talking to a person who listens to talk radio or watches cable news all the time that might know a little bit about one of these commissions. But for the average person who sees that headline looks terrible. You know, it's time for the average person to grow up. It really is. Now is the time? You're going to give them a pass over the past couple hundred years. Yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 01:20:18 Yeah, now's the time. You know, maybe everybody was like, you know, dumb as a box of rocks. You didn't wake up after 9-11 and you didn't wake up, you know, all the things that have been happening. You didn't wake up as they were, you know, giving. your your grandmother a massage in her pants at the airport, you know, maybe, maybe. It's just time that you just grow up, wake up, and start educating yourself because you're about to lose all of it, all of it. You don't know what the UN Human Rights Council.
Starting point is 01:20:52 You don't know who's on. You couldn't Google search that before you got online and started to rant. again, Googling is like six steps past they're willing to go. I know. If they get to the end of the headline, it'd be surprised.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Yes, you're right. You'd have to get the end of the headline. You'd have to read the story. Then you'd have to Google. You'd have to pick a viable source. You'd have to learn what a viable source is. You'd have to actually read about it. Then you'd have to be informed about what has happened in Venezuela and Rwanda
Starting point is 01:21:23 and all of these various countries you mentioned. That's way too much work. You're right. You're right. You're right. But this looks like the way and the way the media has treated it is Donald Trump doesn't care about human rights, period. That's what they want to communicate.
Starting point is 01:21:36 And they have used this as another piece of evidence. And we talked about this a little bit yesterday on the news and why it matters in that there is a line in coverage of Donald Trump because they always are obviously negative about Donald Trump in the media, right? This happens all the time. But their normal tone, if you watch a CNN, or MSNBC is this sort of exasperated belief. Like they just can't understand how you Americans don't see this the way they do.
Starting point is 01:22:08 How can he have any supporters? Look how bad of a guy he is. Here's lie after lie after lie. And here's where he's offensive on this topic. Offensive on this topic. And why don't why do I have to keep saying this? He just keeps lying and no one believes us. And this is that exasperation.
Starting point is 01:22:22 And that is that exasperation that quite honestly we had with Barack Obama. that we would get on and we'd be like, how is it that nobody sees this? Yeah. How is it that they're not seeing this? Right. And so you kind of like, you understand that level. Again, that's not supposed to be where journalism is.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Again, we're a talk show. We're an opinion show. And so, but the average person I think on the right was exasperated by why don't you see what we're seeing. Right. And that is the generalized tone of cable news right now. Yes. With exceptions.
Starting point is 01:22:52 When it's good. Right. When it's on a good day. When it's on a good day. They're just like, oh, I can't believe this. he just said the opposite of this two weeks ago, no one cares. They're just exasperated. Correct.
Starting point is 01:23:01 There have been several moments during the Trump presidency and back into the campaign as well, which have changed them. They've crossed a line. There's been certain issues in which they believe this time they've got him. Always. And this time, they don't have to throw the journalistic niceties out there to act as if they have no opinion on this man, right? They go to a point where it becomes straight out advocacy.
Starting point is 01:23:32 This border issue has crossed into that territory. If you want to go to it beforehand, you can look at Parkland. The same thing happened. Another example, you could go back to Charlottesville. Same thing. And again, they may have been right on certain parts of these stories. For instance, I thought, the last time I thought this was during the debate when he took on George Bush. And, you know, do you remember he was, I think, in North Carolina, and he just
Starting point is 01:24:01 started saying crazy stuff about Barbara and George and First George and all this stuff. And I thought, okay, there's no way. There's no way that Republicans are going to tolerate that. There's just no way. It's over. He's just done it to himself. No, he didn't. And, you know, you quickly become, you, you realize, no, nothing's going to take this guy out. Nothing is going to. He can't do or say any that people will actually care about because it isn't really even about him. Right. And then the idea of a cable news station, if you're a journalist, your goal shouldn't be to alert people to take this guy out.
Starting point is 01:24:40 No. That's not supposed to be your job. You're supposed to be telling people what's going on. No. And that's why these issues are. You can understand how people are like, oh God, they don't even care about that. You can understand that. But what they have instead of, what they have is,
Starting point is 01:24:54 ah, that's going to take him out. Now he's done. We got him this time. This time it's too important. This time it's too important. Let's just go for it. I mean, you watch cable news, particularly, you know, CNN and MSNBC are the same way.
Starting point is 01:25:13 And it is straight out advocacy. It is, they're not even attempting to tell the stories as a journalist tells the stories at times. And this is not universal. This is not every single journalist by any means. but a lot of them. And there's this point of, you can almost see them gleefully being freed
Starting point is 01:25:34 from these restraints of this job they have where they're supposed to be quote unquote fair and balanced. And, you know, someone who would listen to me like, oh, you're saying Fox doesn't advocate for the president? Absolutely they do. 100%. The job of
Starting point is 01:25:50 of the majority of Fox News, is simply to advocate whatever opinion Donald Trump has said is the one they're supposed to have. I would separate that somewhat from the news. The news, yeah, somewhat. The journalist somewhat, the journalist or the journalist. And I think that that's true on all of, with all of these friends. So it is not important to point out that it is not universal on any of these.
Starting point is 01:26:14 And it's not just, it isn't just left. You pointed this out when you were talking, if you go back to the first hour, here's a good thing for you to do if you tune in right now. at some point today, go back and listen to the first hour of this program. I don't know. You should. I don't know if that's really my finest hour. It was, I think.
Starting point is 01:26:33 It was a fine hour. And one of the parts towards the, I'm about halfway through, you talk about the theater of what happened with Corey Lewandowski on the air yesterday where he was mocking this Down syndrome child and how, oh, wow, he goes, when they talk about a Down syndrome child who was taken from their parents in one of these, border situations.
Starting point is 01:26:55 And, you know, it's just theater, right? Like, both of these people would be on the exact opposite side and another day. And you walked through that, and that's important to know. And that is, it is part of this. But there is a really noticeable line and it's freeing. If you could see it, in a way, obviously the disgust of everything that Donald Trump does is always there in some subtle fashion. But this is not, it's unleashed, right?
Starting point is 01:27:19 It's just they, they think they are so, in the. right, it doesn't matter anymore. We don't have to tell these stories in a fair way. We don't even have to attempt to try to. For example, they keep saying there's a change in policy when it comes to separating parents from children.
Starting point is 01:27:38 The right is saying, no. There's been absolutely no change this is an old policy. The left is saying and the media largely is saying this is all Donald Trump's fault. He has changed the policy to make kids be separated from their parents. And
Starting point is 01:27:53 he could undo it with a stroke of a pen. Okay? He's going to be a dictator, but he can change this with a stroke of a pen. But go ahead. But Donald Trump has changed no policy when it comes to separating parents from children. The policy, there has been a change, so the right is wrong there. But it is not about separating parents from children. The change has come in that Donald Trump has decided to prosecute people who come across the border.
Starting point is 01:28:22 When you prosecute someone a parent for a crime, you don't also throw their children in prison. That's not the way the system works. Whenever you prosecute someone and they need to be detained, you separate them from children. This happens all over America to American citizens on a daily basis from everything from serial killing to small-level drug crimes. That is not true. That is not true. Because I remember when Anthony Weiner went to jail, he went to prison with his children and his wife. No. He was separated from his family.
Starting point is 01:28:56 No. No, they all go together as a family. No, they don't. That's not how our society works. Right. You can say, hey, Don, you shouldn't be prosecuting people that come across the border. But look at what you're admitting when you say that. What you're admitting is not that your problem is about separating families. Your problem is you don't think crossing the border should be a crime. You are saying the problem you have with this process is that illegal border crossings should not be illegal.
Starting point is 01:29:25 That is what your opinion is. It has nothing to do with separating children from parents because we all agree that should happen, by the way, for the good of the child. If your parent is a rapist and gets convicted or is being charged from rape and held in prison,
Starting point is 01:29:40 I don't think it's a good idea for the toddlers to go along to the prison cell. Let me ask you this if I may. Yes. Um, Stu, uh, when we look at, uh, this situation, it, it wasn't happening before under Obama. That's not exactly true. You're going to be surprised to hear. Um, it, uh, there was a lot of elements of this that were. Now he, in fact, it's exactly the same law. Obama just decided not to prosecute and instead let people go. Now, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:30:19 are you relieved that there's absolutely no human trafficking happening on our border? I'm relieved. I kind of thought there was a lot of human trafficking. No, there's no human trafficking. No, because if there, well, no, if there was and you cared about human trafficking, you would want to verify that those kids are part of this family, that they're not just randomly with some trafficker. Well, especially if you know you can get across with families.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Okay, let's say we go down the road that the left wants us to, and we say, okay, well, if you're with a family, we're going to let you go. What does that do? That incentivizes people to come across the border with families. Even if they don't have a family, they will come over with a family, which means drug lords will employ children to act as kids. They will be human trafficked, or somebody will just take kids and pretend that those are their children, correct? Yes. Right. So you would like to have some paperwork, but because we don't have any paperwork, we don't demand any paperwork on the border. It's just a free for all. You come over. We have no way to verify. So now we have said we should take DNA testing of anyone who says this is my child. But the left doesn't want that. So let me boil it down to this. Not only are they saying that we don't want this to be a crime. They are also saying we don't care of. about human trafficking because all of the policies that we are advocating only strengthen
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Starting point is 01:33:16 Have you gotten your fix yet? Because there's some things that you, we can share. if you haven't gotten your fix yet of outrage, where, you know, because everybody needs to be outraged about something that is entirely meaningless, right?
Starting point is 01:33:31 I mean, I have to have something that really makes no difference or is none of my business whatsoever, but I need to be really outraged. Now, case you didn't get your fix, we have a good one. We have a really good one. This one's about the movies.
Starting point is 01:33:48 A journalist several months ago, A few colleagues and I did a lighthearted story where we called up lots of famous people and asked about their favorite movies about their professions. So what does the head of NASA think is the best movie about astronauts? Right. What does Cal Ripkin Jr. think the best movie is about baseball? Poignantly, I interviewed Anthony Bourdain about his favorite movie about cooking. Oh boy. In the end, we had 25 movies, but only seven female voices.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Wait, wait, wait a minute. I may blow a blood vessel. Seven out of the 25? Only seven. let me relax on that because I'm just seriously I may have to go to the hospital for a few minutes then come back after I get some Xanax or something because I'm so outraged but wait there's more you're listening to the Glenn Beck program well we are if you haven't been outraged yet you must have just gotten up because there's a million things that you could be outraged about and we want to make sure everybody gets their fixed today now here is one that that, you know, sure, sure, some people say that it's no big deal, but I'll tell you, not me. I'm glad. I'm glad that you're on the right side of this. Right. So a journalist decides to figure out which movies, you know, the people who are actually in those professions say is the best.
Starting point is 01:35:16 So like what is the head of NASA say is the best space movie? And so the interesting reason she's talking about this, listen to her explanation. An email interviewer just asked me how journalists can even out gender imbalance in sourcing. Sorry, what? Can we start there for a moment? Can we? An email interviewer just asked me how journalists can even out gender imbalance in sourcing. Now, first of all, we're told there's no difference between the genders.
Starting point is 01:35:44 So why would you need to balance out gender imbalance? and sourcing. If the genders are all the same, I would say to you, I'd go a step further, Stu, how dare you for even recognizing genders? Well, right, exactly, right? Like, if that's what we're supposed to believe, why would we want to balance this out? Secondarily, well, there can be, like, if you're going to, for example, voters, right, and you wanted to get voters opinions on things, you'd want to make sure you had some cross-section of the public because- Why are women and men different in their voting? Again, I don't believe this, right?
Starting point is 01:36:20 I believe that they are actually different. However, they do tend to vote percentage-wise differently. You don't want to necessarily have... I wonder why that is. I know. They may be different, maybe. But I can understand that, right? You'd want to have a cross-section of the voting public
Starting point is 01:36:35 that is representative of the percentage of the voters that might be voting, right? That makes sense. When you're conducting a poll scientifically, you might want that. When you're talking about a source of a news story, what you want is someone's going to tell you the truth about the news story. Why the heck would you care what their genitals are? Why would their genitals factor into who you're sourcing to give you the truth of a news story?
Starting point is 01:36:56 Well, an implicit bias? Is that what? Like if you go, well, I wanted to get the CEO of Disney's opinion. So I looked for a female CEO of Disney and could not find one. Well, maybe there isn't one. Maybe the expert in the story happens to have a different part between their legs. And I know it's going to be disappointing to you. I don't know what it has to do with your job, honestly.
Starting point is 01:37:18 It's not, you know, there are certain industries in which that's very important. Porn being one, perhaps. But not here. And wouldn't it be interesting to see what the head of NASA said? And if he were a white man, because remember, we are just asking one person for their opinion. If he were a white man, maybe he would say the right stuff. if he were if he were a she and black
Starting point is 01:37:52 maybe he'd say it's what's the woman the one that just came out last year yeah maybe she would say that and as white name we don't even know the title is that right is that a is that a does that make it more accurate
Starting point is 01:38:09 right no no they're both opinions of two different people so the story that she quote thinks about all the time. She says, I think about this incident all the time. All the time. Again, I always find it interesting to get perspective from, because this is another world to me.
Starting point is 01:38:26 This story is a complete another universe. I never even cross into it, right? A place in which all the time I'm thinking about getting the right gender balance of a story of people's opinions on movies. This is something that she is admitting dominates her thought process. It's fascinating to me.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Well, that shows how big-headed you as a white man. I agree. Probably does. So here we go. Several months ago, a few colleagues and I did a lighthearted story where we called up lots of famous people and asked. A light-hearted story. Right. Again, it's not even an important story.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Not a good story. And asked about their favorite movie about their professions. What is the head of NASA? Think about the best movie about astronauts. Now, again, if it's the head of NASA, right? It's either going to be a man or a woman or one of the other 962 genders. Thank you. It's going to be.
Starting point is 01:39:13 It's only one person, though, right? Right. It's not like you can get two operas. I'll take the female head of NASA. You have one person who's heading up NASA, whoever that is. And why is NASA so horrible that they're only narrowing it down to two options? How about this? What does Cal Ripkin Jr. think the best movie about baseball?
Starting point is 01:39:30 Cal Ripon Jr. is a person. We know he's a man. Right. Unless he's changes identification recently that I didn't hear about. And if you're looking for a famous baseball player that is a woman, it's going to be a tough one to find. Right. If you want to ask somebody about the best. javelin throwing,
Starting point is 01:39:49 you might be a final, you have a choice there, right? Here you don't have a choice because Calrican Jr. is always a man as far as I know.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Now, I know that's not I was guaranteed in today's society, but as far as I know with Cal, he is. She writes, poignantly, I interviewed Anthony Bourdain about his favorite movie
Starting point is 01:40:04 about cooking. Now, cooking is a topic in which you could go to anyone, right? You could go to a man or a woman, any of the thousands of genders, and find someone who likes to cook,
Starting point is 01:40:14 but she chooses to go to Anthony Bourdain. a man as far as I know. In the end, we had 25 movies, but only seven female voices. Some readers were annoyed and rightfully so. Okay, stop. I just don't even... Some readers were annoyed.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Let me just say. Some people that listen to this think that I, through this broadcast every day, think that I am sending them messages silently through the air. Right now they're going, I hear what you're saying. Oh, he's confirming it. I hear what you're saying. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:56 Some listeners, we generally don't worry about those listeners. Okay. Well, we do worry about them, but just in a different way. You don't program the show for the people who think they're getting, you know, secret messages through silence. Correct. Okay. So some listeners, some viewers, some readers, some readers. some readers can think an awful lot of things.
Starting point is 01:41:17 But we usually try to say, they don't have a lot of time on their hands. And so they don't represent the common person. Right. Now, while I do generally agree with your analysis here, is there any part of you in this addicted to outrage world that does not believe that a bunch of people were annoyed at them for only putting seven of the 25 people who were,
Starting point is 01:41:43 No, I don't believe that. I don't. Wait, no, wait. Wait, let me finish. Okay. I do believe that there was one or two. And then one or two said it on Twitter. And that became 20.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Right. And those 20 became a thousand. Because we have 330 million people. We don't have a thousand crackpots who have nothing better to do with their time than be pissed off. about a quote, light-hearted story? Of course we do. Of course we do. So as the author writes,
Starting point is 01:42:19 some readers were annoyed and rightfully so. No, not rightfully so. I disagree with that. What they didn't know is that I was annoyed too. I had called dozens of women. Dozens. I had called a ratio of three women to one man. She's got a folder of women.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Binders. She's got binders and binders of women. the women kept demurring. They kept saying, I'm not funny enough, or I'm not a big enough expert, or try this colleague instead. Damn, these men. The men all thought they were big enough experts. They were more than happy to talk. So sometimes what we see is a failure of journalism, but sometimes it's a deeper societal problem that has to do with confidence and overconfidence.
Starting point is 01:43:07 Oh, amen, sister, preach on. And with women feeling safe speaking up. Oh, thank goodness. Somebody said it. Is there real? I mean, look, again, I'll admit, I have no knowledge of this being an actual issue. I admit, maybe I'm not the best, the most well-cultured person in our society. Do me a favor.
Starting point is 01:43:27 However. Stop. Do me a favor. Yes. Back away from the microphone for a second. Yes. Okay, back away. I'm away.
Starting point is 01:43:33 All right. Now, open up your pants. I don't want to see anything. Just look down them. You got anything in there? Yeah, yeah. Then you definitely have no right to. chime in on this.
Starting point is 01:43:48 Sometimes it's a deeper societal problem that has to do with confidence. Now, again, look at who's getting assigned with the problem here. Someone calls you up and asks you, hey, what's your favorite movie? Here's the problem. A deeper societal problem that has to do with confidence and overconfidence. So men are too confident to share their movie opinions and women don't have quite enough confidence to share their movie opinions? Their movie opinions.
Starting point is 01:44:13 Let's just say that again. They're movie opinions. Movie opinions. Look, I'm not an expert on movies. I don't know. You've got to call a man for that. And with women feeling safe speaking up. Can I tell you something?
Starting point is 01:44:32 Wait, women don't feel safe speaking up about their favorite movies? No, I said, no, they don't. I said, I said one time to a group of men that I, just really liked an affair to remember and they all raped me. They raped me and they beat me and I no longer feel comfortable saying anything about movies. Wow, you furthered the rape culture with that kind of. I have. I have. And you know what? Another thing, it is so, it is so it's a micro, it's a micro, even a macro aggression the way men handle these things with movies because I as a woman, which I identify now as, I as a woman say to my husband,
Starting point is 01:45:18 which my wife now identifies as, I'll say, you want to go to a movie and they'll say, I don't care, whatever. And they are training me to be docile on my, the oppression of their no movie opinion when I ask shows me they don't care. about my opinion when I'm asked. So I can no longer give my opinion if you ask. I didn't follow that, but it sounds tragic. Well, it doesn't. It is no, the good thing is, in 2018, it is no longer necessary. Has anybody been paying attention to the stock market? What is it today? I did bounce back of a little bit, I believe, some of the losses from yesterday.
Starting point is 01:46:10 Let's see we can, we can find that number here for you. Yeah, I've got another story here. Oh, do you hear about Starbucks? Oh. Starbucks has weaker than expected sales. They're expected now to close 100 stores for more than an afternoon. Oh, no. By the way, Beck has bounced back to the negative down another 50 points. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:32 For the doubt. Well, here's one. U.S. Treasury Department for April, published on June 15th, revealed that Russia has now sold $47.4 billion out of the 96.1 it is held as, Treasury bonds. Moscow cut its treasury holdings by $1.6 billion in February, reduced it by nine, and it has continued to do so. Tariff wars.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Unleashed by Washington has stirred fears that financial markets may be in for a rough ride with American treasuries dumped by each of our big partners, including such major holders as China, Japan, and Russia. But don't worry about it. If we don't stop this nonsense with the trade wars, it's going to end the way it always ends. And it was Smoot Hawley that changed everything for the Great Depression. That was a trade war.
Starting point is 01:47:31 We've seen the volatility. We have seen people panic. Look at the stock market over the last six days. Down again today. It's now the seventh day in a row that it's down. We're seeing people worried about rising inflation. The one investment that thrives in inflation is good. as the dollar becomes worth less and less because it's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:47:54 Because how do we cripple other countries' economies and then expect them to buy our loans because we are still spending $1 trillion more every single year than we were under the last guy and the last guy was out of control? Who's going to buy all that? This is what happens to countries like Zimbabwe. Goldline is going to give you a free Zimbabwean $10 billion banknote just for calling and speaking to one of their account executives about the benefits of owning gold. They're going to send you some information, but they're also going to send you a $10 billion bill from Zimbabwe. It's worthless.
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Starting point is 01:49:15 But if you missed the opening hour today, you need to go back and listen in the podcast because I have a, I have a lot to say about this moment from last night, from Rachel Maddow. This has just come out from the Associated Press. This is incredible. Trump administration officials have been sending babies and other young children to at least three. She started to cry last night, and I'm not going to mock her.
Starting point is 01:50:05 I am going to question. I am not going to say the things that she and others said about me, because I think what was making her cry last night was she loves her country, and she's just worried about it and the direction that it's going. However, as you will see on television tonight at 5 o'clock on the Blame, TV. I have a few questions and a few comparisons on that. I'm going to be comparing tonight what Rachel Maddell said there and what she then said, not in 2014, but just a few, you know, a few months ago when they were killing babies and selling them for body parts. I want to
Starting point is 01:51:05 show her emotional state then because it had to be pretty powerful. Had to be pretty powerful. Tonight also, the timeline. Forget all the junk you're hearing. Let's look at the timeline. What are the actual facts on the border? We do that tonight.
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