The Glenn Beck Program - Why Glenn Beck Wants to Kiss EPA's Lee Zeldin | Guests: Lee Zeldin & Jeffrey Steele | 2/13/26

Episode Date: February 13, 2026

The Environmental Protection Agency, under orders from President Trump and EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin, has ended controversial Obama-era greenhouse regulations. Glenn applauds this effort and argues it puts America back on track to a free society. Glenn heads to the chalkboard to break down how more governmental regulations mean less personal freedom and open the door to a crippling, monopolistic society. Glenn discusses American society 100 years ago, when the car industry was booming, as well as its downfall as environmental lobbyists took it over. Lee Zeldin joins to discuss how rolling back Obama- and Biden-era regulations was the “single largest deregulatory action in U.S. history.” Glenn and Jason discuss the latest updates in Cuba as Glenn explains why he believes we’re on the edge of another Cuban Missile Crisis. Singer and songwriter Jeffrey Steele joins to discuss how Charlie Kirk’s assassination inspired him to write “A Voice” and how he now sees it as a powerful way to empower those who feel politically or societally marginalized. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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safe okay so yesterday we changed course in a massive way, massive way. For years, federal regulators have, you know, the EPA, they weren't protecting the air and the water. They were also quietly deciding what kind of car you should buy, how companies designed engines, what technologies got rewarded, which technologies were now a thing of the past, what gas stove you could have, how much paperwork stood between an idea and, you buying it at the marketplace. Okay. Yesterday's move tears down the legal foundation that let Washington just,

just engineer entire industries through greenhouse gas rules. This is the framework of fascism. I don't think people really even understand. You ask any of the protesters, what is a fascist? What is fascism? And they'll suddenly become stupid. Donald Trump, that's what they're doing in Washington? Okay, dummy.

Can you define fascist? fascism. Fascism is the public-private partnership between government and corporations. And government tells the corporations exactly how to make their products and everything they have to do. And if they comply, they're fine. If not, they're out of business. They'll find somebody else to partner with them. Okay. That's exactly. That is the framework. The Great Reset was building, you know, and anybody who was part of the Green New Deal and everything else. Okay. So what changes for you? Because you will notice this in real life, maybe not right away. But cars are going to get cheaper. They say $2,500 cheaper because they no longer have to chase compliance credits for features that people hate, like, you know, the start, stop system that shuts your

engine off every time you're at a light. Oh my gosh, I hate that thing. So you don't have to do all of these things that were mandated by the government. You don't have to have all of the paperwork. Energy producers are going to face fewer hurdles now, which means lower pressure on gas and electricity costs. That will bring those things down because when supply rises, prices usually go down. Trucking. This one is a hidden tax inside absolutely everything you buy. Trucking in rail and air. I mean, everything is delivered that way. When trucking gets cheaper, groceries, furniture, your clothes, whatever. Everything that you use every day doesn't have to carry so much regulatory weight and the

energy cost to get it from one place to another is also down, so everything is cheaper. Here's one that I absolutely love. Shower pressure. This, if, you know, the only thing that could be worse is if you stop moving in the shower, the start stop button would go off and your water would just stop going off. You're not moving enough. They've destroyed water pressure. You feel like, honestly, does anybody else feel like we were being conditioned to live in a second world country?

Does I do? I do. Get used to it. That's just the way it is. No, but that's not the right way. That's not the best way. That's not like nobody likes that. Yes, but that's the way it is.

Who is making those choices? not you, your lighting choices, your appliance, the gas stove thing that they said, we're not doing anything. And then they came out and said, okay, we are doing something. That's all done. Okay. This moves us back closer to an actual consumer free market where you have choices rather than the choices that the bureaucracy put in front of you. You can have actual choices. Now, none of this is going to mean as Paradise tomorrow, because the Democrats are going to fight it. Bureaucracy is going to resist. The Democrats are going to say, you can't do that. They're going to take him to court. All of this stuff. It's going to take time. But the big move here is that the government is realizing again or repopulating the position that they should be in, and that is to protect you.

from harm that the government has something to do with. Okay. Take care of our borders. Take care of our military. You know, let everything else go back to the local. The thing that government should never do is be able to design your life, ever. Once regulators start deciding, you need to drive this, you need to buy this, you need to use this. you need to use this.

They're not referees. And that's the government's role. You protect us from harm by making sure you get the bad guys, that you break up monopolies, that you make sure that business is fair, that nobody's cheating one another, nobody's getting an unfair advantage. That's how you protect us with business, okay? But they've become the engineers of your daily life. Yesterday, a decision was made, whether you agree with it or not, I do.

pull that power back. So let me explain the philosophy that I think many in today's America no longer really even understand because we don't even know, we don't know what fascism is, we don't know what capitalism is, we think we live, this is the craziest thing. These protesters think they're against capitalism because look at what's happening in Washington. This isn't capitalism. This is not a free market.

We haven't been a free market in a very long time. A really free market looks very messy. It's loud, it's chaotic, it changes on a dime because there are millions of people trying millions of ideas. Some fail, some succeed. But you decide who wins, okay? The market decides by what you buy. You find something better. You start using it.

You tell a friend, they start using it. All of a sudden, that's the deal. but over the last 100, 120 years now, actually, yeah, it's been about 100 years. America has drifted into this progressivism. Remember, what is the progress the original American progressives wanted? They wanted a communist or authoritarian rule. They were fine with communism. Then they thought fascism was neat.

Then they stopped talking about them and just came at them from, a different angle. No, this is just to protect you. But they wanted it without the revolution. They didn't want the blood in the streets. So they said, we'll move towards communism or fascism, just a little bit at a time so we avoid the blood in the streets. Okay. And they just started piling these rules up. Thousands and thousands and thousands of pages every year, compliance departments have to grow. Lobbyists learn how to write regulations. And they write them in a way, because who can afford a lobby? Do you have a lobbyist? Because I talk to my lobbyist Bill. Oh, no, wait, I don't have a lobbyist. I don't know anybody that has a lobbyist.

You know, who has the lobbyist, the big NGOs and the big corporations. And they're the ones that are writing the laws. And that changed the game. So instead of saying, what do customers want, business started asking the question, what's Washington going to allow? That's not capitalism. That's cronyism. Because of that, fewer players can actually stay in the game. The small innovators, they disappear. Well, you know, when Bill Gates, I can't believe I'm going to quote this guy,

but Bill Gates said something absolutely true. I'm a menace to society. No, he didn't say that, but he would have been true if he said it. He said something true. I could not start Microsoft in my garage today if I tried to start it under all of this regulation. What does that tell you? And probably who was part of writing through their lobbyists all of these extra regulations to block competition? Probably Microsoft.

Big corporations just grow and grow and grow. They block everybody out. Risk declines. creativity declines. And here's the part that people miss. Heavy regulation often sells itself as fairness. But it's not fairness. It is a lie to the American people. You've been lied to for so long. Heavy regulation. Who is for that? The giant corporations that are trying to protect their piece of the puzzle. Complex rules, they don't scare the big giants. Because, I mean, look, regulation means less agency.

Innovation becomes permission-based. D-regulation increases responsibility, innovation, local ideas, local control. Regulations help large corporations because they can afford the lawyers, the paperwork, the lobbyists. I put this up on a chalkboard if you happen to be watching, I'm quoting the chalkboard. Dregulation allows the small guy to compete with the new ideas or innovation, breaking the hold on monopolies or on products and ideas. Okay, that's what it is. More competition means lower prices.

More innovation means more job. More freedom, less regulation. Means people get to keep more of what they earn, not just money, but choice. This goes much deeper than your wallet, what they did yesterday. A society where government designs every single outcome trains its citizens to not innovate.

to not think, to not do it themselves, wait for permission. A society where people are trusted to choose builds responsibility and resilience and independence. You know, look at Canada. Canada is toast. It's toast. Nobody's even talking about really the free market up in Canada, especially when it comes to health care.

It is collapsing. But their understanding of. of the government does not lend them to, why don't we just let people figure this out? Why don't we just free this system up from government regulation? The government is the problem. They will just design a bigger government regulatory system around medicine. Instead of freeing it up, does anybody remember how good medicine was in 2008 when we were all bitching about it? We were bitching about it in 2008.

everybody's like, oh, this is horrible, that's horrible. Compare it to what you have now. And remember, that was done to make it better. More regulation to make it better. To save you $2,500 every single year. You're paying like five grand more now, and it's worse. This is not a question of just what kind of car you drive. The question is, what kind of citizen your children will become?

If every generation grows up believing experts must engineer life from above, freedom feels dangerous. They need protection from freedom. But if people are free to build and to fail and then try again, they learn ownership of their future. But only if coronism isn't happening. When the big guy fails, the big guy must be allowed to fail. This is, you know, this is not about emissions or regulatory land. language. It's not about, you know, I just love how the press is like, oh, Donald Trump is rejecting science, but we know what science is. Really? You're going to lecture us about science and listening to

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Lee Zeldon's coming up in just a minute. and we're going to talk to him about deregulation. I may, well, he's not in person, so I can't kiss him. But I might have kissed him on the mouth for what happened yesterday. I just love what happened. We think, most Americans think they live in a free market, that this is capitalism. And that is the lie you must dispel. Okay.

You don't know how much you've been manipulated. and how the government has been involved in the manipulation in these big corporations. Let me ask you this. Let me, let me, if I took you back to any American city in the 1920s, what would it look and sound like? Most people would think you'd hear the Ouga horns an awful lot, okay? You don't hear engines for the most part. You hear a hum. You hear steel wheels on steel.

rails, okay, the whisper of electricity overhead, spark. Children stepping off of street corners and they don't have fear of getting hit by cars. Workers getting onto street cars without owning anything and just going downtown to work. Shops rise close together because distance doesn't matter because the trolley is coming every few minutes. And so you just grab a trolley and you get there. city is one kind of living machine. It's efficient.

It's rhythmic. It's almost elegant. That was America in the 1920s. By the 1930s in America, nearly every major city from Los Angeles to Detroit to Cleveland had an electric streetcar network. Now, I want you to remember this as where every city is trying to build those stupid rail systems. that nobody wants. I just want you to remember that. The United States in the 1930s had had more urban rail mileage than anywhere else on earth.

We were the leader in streetcars. And then all of a sudden overnight vanished. How? I mean, all we want to do now is build light rail systems because they're the best. They're the best. When we build them, nobody rides them. What happened? You look at Paris, Tokyo, Zurich, anywhere else in the world.

Their trains and their trams, they never died. What killed that here in America? I was the free market. Was it? Was it? Let me tell you the real story on what happened. America chose differently, but I don't think we actually chose. Here, transportation.

became a private battlefield, private, public private battlefield. This is where the story turns dark. In the 1930s, there were three giants that were rising, that were changing, and they had money like nobody else. You had General Motors selling automobiles to everybody. You had Standard Oil of California selling fuel to all of those automobiles that people now needed. You had Goodyear Tire and rubber supplying the rubber touching every single road.

these companies were the up-and-comers. These were the ones who had all the money, all the power. Street cars didn't pay anything to those guys. They were competition to those guys. Every electric trolley meant passengers that didn't have to buy cars, wouldn't burn gasoline, and didn't have to buy tires. The streetcar wasn't a vehicle. It was a rival business model to those three companies.

So late 1930s, a new holding company comes up and quietly starts buying up all of the electric streetcar systems across American cities. It was called the National City Lines. National City Lines. We're just, we're a streetcar company. We're just buying up streetcar companies. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. What America didn't know at the time behind the national city lines, where were they getting their money to buy up?

all of the streetcar companies, GM, Standard Oil, and Goodyear. They would buy the local streetcar company. They'd stop investing in the maintenance. Then things would start to break down. There'd be problems. And they would then say, we can't fix this system. It's just outdated. And they'd rip out the tracks.

Meanwhile, as the train systems that they owned were having these problems, GM, standard oil, and Goodyear would come to the cities and say, you know what you need, you need buses. Buses are absolutely going to change the world. You have a city bus lines. They're not going to break down like these old outdated rail lines. You need buses. And so they replaced all the rail lines with buses. And some cities push back.

But then suddenly, you know, who's to say that it was bribery? Who's to say it was lobbyists? I am. I am. I'm one to say that. All of a sudden, every city got rid of them. Okay? The permanence of the rail disappear.

Rails, that signals stability. Buses can be rerouted tomorrow. What happened? Developers stopped building dense neighborhoods around the transit. So the city sprawled out, you know, everywhere. And that's problem, not a problem up to you. But the automobile became a necessity. It was no longer a choice.

You live in any city. Live in Los Angeles. You used to have the leading streetcar system in America. Los Angeles. It was great. Try getting anywhere without a car in Los Angeles. You can't. You can't.

You couldn't take the bus. Good luck with that. So this changed the design of America. life entirely. This didn't just change the streetcar industry. This changed our architecture, our city designs, the way we live, the way we commute. This changed lives. And then they put a sticker on it that said, Americans just love their cars. So you know that I'm not just making this up. 1949 federal prosecutors brought an antitrust case. Okay.

And the jury came back and found, yeah, the companies were conspiring. They were a monopoly on the buses and the supplies to the transit systems. They had lied. They had used lobbyists and all of this thing. And they came down hard on them. And the judge gave them the penalty. You know what the penalty was for GM, standard oil and Goodyear Tire? $5,000.

$5,000. That's like a parking ticket. No one went to prison. The tracks kept disappearing. This wasn't about transportation. Streetcars created neighborhoods. Downtowns built for people instead of parking lots. Cities connected by shared movement.

Everything the left says they want today was pushed by the, these giant corporations and pushed out. And now they're using the same tactics to get those cities back. It's not going to end well. Because whenever you're doing things undercover, whenever you're trying to be sneaky, whenever you're not being up front with the American people and you're letting the elites decide, you've got problems.

It doesn't work out well. So the distances grew, dependence on cars exploded, highway. carved through urban neighborhoods. The American Dream was relocated to the suburbs, which is fine. It's fine. But you didn't choose it. Three companies through collusion, bribery, everything else, public-private partnerships with governments, they chose that. Because now you need a car to participate in society at all.

Okay. America was paving over the rails. While we were doing that, Berlin monetized the trams. Amsterdam expanded their streetcars. Hong Kong kept its electric trams running continuously for over a century. Those cities enjoy options that we don't have. They have the light rail. They have walkable districts, mixed transit systems. It just works because they didn't rip the foundation out.

They just kept building as the cities transformed. We dismantled our own advantage. And I want you to understand, this is not smoke-filled rooms plotting evil. This is more dangerous, I think. This was incentives and human frailty. The companies followed profit. That's what companies are supposed to do. Cities wanted short-term savings.

The company, the national city lines, was creating a problem. so then the people funding the National City Lines could come in and fix the problem and have the answer. Does any of this sound familiar? Consumers wanted freedom, but bribes were given and taken. Collusion between giant corporations happened. They had the money to lobby, to buy and to bribe, and the legal system, when it finally kicked in, it did virtually nothing. And let me ask you this, see if this sounds familiar. if you had bribed politicians, colluded, lied, misrepresented, everything, and you destroyed

an entire way of life, all for profit, do you think you would have faced a $5,000 fine? Or do you think you would have gone to jail? Does any of this sound familiar? Because that's what has to change. And the only way to change that is to reduce the size of government. They were all selling the same thing. a promise that the future would be easier if we tore up the past. Is that not the promise of corporations and NGOs and lobbyists and big government advocates today?

Forget the past. Tear the past. Take the statues down. And we'll have a brighter future. Would it not have served our generation and our children's generation better had the system worked the way it was supposed to and let people actually decide? They may have chosen the same thing, but it would have been their choice, not a manipulation. The streetcar wasn't just transportation. It was a vision on how society could move together.

Did you even know about streetcar dominance in America? Did you even know we led the world in this? Did you know we were the envy of the world? Did you know how we went from the trolley and American elites choosing buses over trolleys? I didn't for the longest time. When I found out, I was outraged by it. Once those rails were gone, this is the secret also that you have to pay attention to because it's repeating itself. What did they do?

The national city lines. GM said, you know, it's going to be a lot better for the tires. You're going to save more money. Just rip those rails out. You couldn't go back. Okay. One day the trolley came down your street. The next day, it was a giant.

bus and everybody adapted and today we don't even know what was lost and I think that's the biggest trick of it all when something slowly disappears slow enough people stop remembering it ever existed that's what you're witnessing in real time now with health care and energy over the last 20 years health care has it gotten better since obamacare or worse did Obamacare fixed the problem or make it worse? Did it live up to its promise? No, because that wasn't the real goal. Look at energy.

During the Biden administration, what did the socialist, Marxist, and climate radical politicians, lobbyists, and NGOs put into the legislation that you couldn't even see until it was past the Green New Deal? Not just to close all of the coal-fired electrical plants, but they would receive federal money if they also tore those plants down. bring up the rails, bring the coal fire plants down. I share this with you today because we are destined to repeat history if we don't know our own history. All right, let me tell you about Z Factor.

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Lee Selden, I've never had the desire, nor have I ever made out with a man. but today, I would consider it. You are the greatest man alive today. Thank you, thank you, thank you, for everything that you and Donald Trump have done and announced yesterday. Well, listen, it was a big deal, and we were excited to be there in the Roosevelt Room to announce it. As you pointed out, the largest act of deregulation in the history of the United States, $1.3 trillion. and a smart guy like you who's been following Supreme Court cases and you know the timeline that this has been a long time coming. The left, they created this endangerment finding to

hoard power in a very unique interpretation of the Clean Air Act that is not allowed under any best reading of it. And they did trillions of dollars of regulation on mobile sources, airplane stationary sources, oil and gas. There's so much control that they hoarded, and we just went out, went right for the route, the endangerment finding, the best reading of the Clean Air Act. We know that this is a durable decision that I signed yesterday after Loper Bright and West Virginia versus EPA and Michigan versus EPA. If you want the law to say that EPA should be regulating the heck out of greenhouse gas emissions,

that is a topic for a debate and a vote in Congress, not a rogue, unelected bureaucrat, at a federal agency. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I mean, I was just talking to the insiders, you know, during the break. And I said, you know, one reason why a Kia looks like Genesis and a Genesis looks like a Bentley and the Bentley looks like the Mercedes is that, is that cars can't design, you can't design cars to look any different because the regulations are so heavy. You can't add any drag to any cars.

You know, so everything starts to look meh. And that's just, that's one of the things that I don't think even people even think about, let alone, you know, your lighting, your showerhead, your water pressure, the money that you're going to save just because trucks are not going to have to spend as much money. So trucking goes down. Any idea how much money we're looking at possible savings for the American people? Yes. A new vehicle is going to cost over $2,400 less on average now that this decision has been signed.

And on top of it all, as an added bonus, we got rid of the Obama switch, the climate participation trophy for manufacturers of adding that annoying start, stop, feature in vehicles that make your car die at red light and stop sign. That off cycle, all off cycle credits are gone. I mean, you're talking sexy talk with, when you're talking about getting that thing out of my car, you, you had me at hello. Amen. The, how long before we start to see those savings? Immediately.

I mean, everything takes time. Yeah, the president came in January of 2025. This was a day one executive order. So as far as, you know, signaling to auto manufacturers that. the president was focused on it. That was a day one message that was sent. We announced on March 12th that we were going to be pursuing this effort. We did the public comment. We followed all of the rules of the Administrative Procedures Act. I read the final decision before signing it yesterday and this thing is airtight. You know, I referenced Loper Bright a second ago,

was the Supreme Court case overturning the Chevron doctrine. When the 2009 endangerment finding was done, the Obama administration, the EPA administrator, was creatively interpreting the Clean Air Act to say, well, if it doesn't say I can't, I guess that means we can. Well, the Supreme Court said in Loper Bright, that's not how it works. You have to follow the best reading of the law. And then I also referenced West Virginia versus EPA as an example, the major policies doctrine. If you're going to do trillions of dollars of regulation, that is something that is for Congress.

And as far as this decision itself, it was loaded with so many mental leaps. They said that when carbon dioxide was mixed with five other well-mixed gases, some of them not even emitted from vehicles, that it contributes, not causes, contributes to global climate change, that you won't find that in Section 202, the Clean Air Act. And they say global climate change endangers public health and welfare without analyzing the local and regional impacts, which is the way that it was always done for decades. You know, when you actually dig into what the law says, the Obama administration decided, well, I guess we have to change the law. They tried to get the votes in Congress.

And then when they couldn't get the votes, they said, well, I guess we're just going to have to do it anyway. Well, fast forward to 2026, game over. The endangerment finding is gone. so with a lot of the stuff that Trump has done because we can't seem to get Congress to really do anything he's had to do it through executive order etc etc and then I worry about codifying things but this one is different because this one's all based on the Supreme Court wins right right and it's also based off of what the law doesn't allow you know this is this is a best reading of the Clean Air Act, which does not say that we should be regulating an emission to combat global

climate change. And you could ignore all of the bad guesses of Al Gore and John Kerry and others. You can replace all of the bad flawed assumptions on science that were made in 2009 with the most pessimistic predictions that didn't bear out as we look at facts in 2026, regardless of where anyone is on their opinion or the fact on the science debate, the reality is the Clean Air Act does not authorize this, that Congress would have to pass a new law in order to have trillions of dollars of regulations. So yeah, no, it doesn't have to be codified. And quite frankly, because of the Supreme Court precedent, if the pendulum swung one day down the road,

some far-left Democrat gets elected president and they have somebody running the EPA and they're trying to go back to it, the problem is that the Clean Air Act is still going to give them the same problem. And Loperbrite is on the books. And it says you can't just make it up. And now manufacturers can make vehicles that consumers actually want rather than what politicians demand. And when you combine this decision with the resetting of the cafe standards with Secretary Duffy and DOT and the president, when you combine it with getting rid of the electric vehicle mandate with the three Congressional Review Act bills that Congress passed in President Trump signed, you add the new investments that have been announced billions of these different manufacturers.

and the jobs that come with it, it all adds up for a very positive one year for the U.S. auto industry. So is it going to make the U.S. auto harder to sell in places like the EU because they've gone full-fledged insane? Right now, I mean, Ford F-150s. I don't think a single Ford F-150's, best-selling car in America, has been sold in Europe. and it's not just the size of it. It's all of the regulations and the tariffs that hopefully Donald Trump is is, you know, really making a real dent in.

But if we relax our regulations, will it be harder for us to sell something in Europe? Well, I'm confident that there's going to be more F-150s that are going to get built and less electric vehicles that sit on dealership lots and remaining unsold. Now, I was a couple months ago. at the G7 Energy and Environment Ministers meeting that was in Toronto, Canada. And I could tell that these European countries are really feeling the strain of how they have chosen

to protect the environment overgrowing the economy. The Trump administration believes that you could protect the environment and grow the economy. The economic cost of the climate goals that they were set, it's coming home to roost right now. And these European countries are facing a reality where they'll make their decisions in the months and the years to come, but they clearly are in a really bad place right now. And they're rethinking certain policies.

Now, how much of that they say publicly versus privately, I don't know, we'll see. But when I was in that meeting and we were having these conversations, clearly they are feeling the economic pressure of their environmental policies. I have to tell you, I think when America becomes more than competitive, I mean, when we're going in different direction and it's cheaper and it's better, I just think the, you know, the world needed leadership and the world now has leadership. And I think these countries are going to, they're just going to collapse on their own weight on things like this.

One last thing, Leah, and he kind of addressed it, but I want to make sure, because I mean, this is conservative heaven. right now. But for middle class, lower class, Democrats, this is really good for them as well. And you speak to somebody who didn't vote for Donald Trump and, you know, thinks that, oh, this is, this is, this is going to, you know, you're not listening to science. This is about more consumer choice. This is about having more affordable vehicles. And by the way, when you make the trucks more affordable that deliver all of those consumer goods that you purchase in your daily lives, the cost of living across the board is able to go down.

$1.3 trillion. Now, too often when you start talking millions and billions and trillions, you know, a lot of people just kind of view it all as the same. These are big numbers. $1.3 trillion is one massive number. when you're talking about $2,400 to purchase a new vehicle, $2,400 less, it's more mobility, more economic mobility. It's the ability to be able to get to work, to get to church. It's the ability to have more money available for health care, for education, and the other costs of life. And, you know, I was just asked about fossil fuels and, you know, the question was asked in a way as if, you know, we should be.

getting rid of it. And I mean, just look back at the last few weeks. The temperatures across this entire country, thank God, President Trump has been unleashing energy dominance. Thank God we have base load power, reliable coal and natural gas and oil that's kept our country warm. The person that you're talking about, that low income, that middle income family, that person who's been struggling, imagine going through the last few weeks without heat. The president's policies, especially when you add them all up. And it's only been one year. year. We still have three more years of this. There's a lot that's been fixed. There's a lot more to fix. And I'm just really honored to have a part of it. Well, I tell you Lee, you were on the show,

I don't know, about a year ago. And you said you were going to do this. And you said that, you know, the president was on it. And the president had told me he was going to do this. And it is nice to see politicians and people in government actually do what they say they're going to do. Congratulations. And please congratulate the president on this as well. Great, great news. Thanks, Glenn. Thank you. You badly. All right, let me pause, tell you about Roth Greens. If you've ever watched your dog wait at the door, you know, or drop a toy at your feet, you know, it's like the most important mission of the day.

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All of that stuff goes away because all of that was EPA. That was all done through regulation. See, this is the point that conservatives need to make. If you want that, then it should go through Congress and the Senate. It should go through the proper channels. what the Democrats did in the early 1900s was they started building up agencies and they said that the government should be run by experts. I don't know about you, but I'm tired of hearing from the experts because they'll tell us one thing and then try to silence everybody on, you know, no, I don't think that's right or I don't think we should do that. And they'll just just vilify you until they decide, oh, you know what, we shouldn't be doing this.

and then they're the expert again telling us now what to do, which was different when they told us before. And it just gets worse and worse and worse. So I don't want our government run by experts. I trust the American people to decide. And if you want these things, then pass them in laws. But they knew they couldn't get these things passed. And so what they did is they just put them into regulation.

You know how much regulation. Those are laws now. that are being written by administrators, that should not be written by administrators. Our law constitutionally needs to be written by Congress. But they just write, I mean, a stack of papers as tall as I am every day is, or I mean, every year is added to our law because of regulations. What Donald Trump did was get rid of all those. If you really want these regulations, if you really think that that's really what's going on, then convince the American people and have the American people elect people to Congress that will pass those things.

That's our system. Anything other than that is authoritarian, is fascistic, okay? Especially when you get to a place to where you have government colluding with private business. That's the definition of fascism. And that's what the left has been building. and that's what I don't like. I don't, you know, I worry about the administration with all of the AI stuff. Are they too close to these businesses?

What is the deal that is being made there? I don't want any of that stuff. I want business and government to be separate. Government is supposed to be the referee. That's what they're supposed to do. And a lot of that returned back to you yesterday. Let me tell you, give you an update. A year ago, I did a podcast about a little girl named Baby Sparrow.

She was recovered by her soldiers during a mission in Afghanistan, which killed both of her biological parents. They were terrorists. And we came in and mom tried to blow herself up and the baby. I mean, it was horrible situation, horrible. And then this little baby was there. the Afghani soldiers on our side, they have different codes of ethics. They're like, you've got to kill the baby.

And we're like, no, we're not killing the baby. And they said, we have to because that child will grow up, because it's going to go back into the Taliban stuff. And it'll be raised to hate us and we'll be fighting another generation. You got to kill the baby. We're like, no, no, we're not doing that. So the soldiers brought her back. She went to the hospital.

She needed to be adopted. The mass family adopted two soldiers' husband. husband and wife, they adopt, and then it becomes inconvenient for the Biden administration. And so they sue because they want to get the baby back to the Taliban. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yesterday we found out that Baby Sparrow legally now, it's over. The court has ruled. She is now part of the mask family.

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Texas is like this too. Oh, it'll always be this way. Oh, no, we're Texas. We're conservative. You have no idea how you are under attack and you are about to lose everything that you have had. there is a deadline happening this Sunday to repeal Prop 4 Prop 4 is really important

because it is giving power to the elites and it barely passed I don't think people understood what they were even doing but everybody wants to give everything to elites I'm going to give it to an independent expert.

Don't give anything to an independent expert for the love of Pete. Leave power where it has checks and balances. Stop. That's what that's what Lee Ellad was just talking about. Deregulation. Get it away from the hands of people that you do not elect that you cannot control one way or another. Otherwise, the power grows out of control and you've lost everything. And Utah, unless you sign the petition to repeal Proposition 4 by Sunday, you're going, you're in a world of hurt. You're in a world of hurt because everything's going to be redistrict. We have Robert Axton on with us. He is the Utah Republican Party chair.

Welcome to the program, Robert. Hey, good morning, Glenn. Thanks. I appreciate being on. You bet. So did I, I'm explaining proposition for the right way. Exactly correct. You are 100% correct. This was a proposition that on the surface appears like it's noble, this idea of an independent redistricting commission. It barely passed in 2018. Since then, unaccountable judges have turned it into an absolute monstrosity that ignores constitutional requirements. Representative government is the system that blesses this country and blesses the state of Utah. We have to defend it. And that's what we're trying to do with this repeal of property. for. I got to tell you, I am so sick and tired of these NGOs and these pop-up organizations that cloak themselves as something neutral and they are so leftist. Just be honest. Just be honest on who you are. But a lawsuit was brought by two leftist organizations, Mormon women for ethical government in the League of Women Voters. And they challenged the

maps and the process, right? Correct. So they engaged in a lawsuit and unfortunately the courts capitulated and they've gone to a place in a recent decision by one of our state judges here in Utah last November to throw out any type of map that went through the legislative process, even any map that went through the Prop 4 process and instead this judge selected a map that came from two private organizations Never accountable to the people of Utah, never accountable and compliant to our state constitution, certainly disrespectful to the very principle of a constitutional republic, a form of government that, as you know, our federal constitution guarantees to every state.

It's an absolute affront to the entire ability for us as individuals, as citizens, to hold accountable and to elect our representatives and to have them engage on our behalf, where we can then hold them accountable through elections. If this doesn't get the signatures it needs, 170,000 signatures, if it doesn't get those signatures by Sunday, what does that mean? Correct. I mean, at that point, we will lose the opportunity to put this on the ballot for November. And this is important.

We need to repeal this now. We need to engage in this process now and let Utahans decide so that this is not an issue that affects us not only this year, but in the next number of years. At the next census, Utah is likely to pick up another congressional seat and will be further in this situation of losing the state and the values that we have that you so well laid out. We have to stand up.

We can't just sit on the sideline. So every Utah needs to go and sign this. In fact, you can find locations where you can come to sign. You have to sign it in person. It's not something you can do online. And you can go to ufrg.org to find. find locations to sign. You can donate there to help us get this in front of as many Utahans as possible, but UFRG, it stands for Utahans for representative government.

UFRG.org. You, if this doesn't pass, you are about to lose one of four congressional districts to Democrat control, even though Democrats represent less than 13% of the voters. How is that possible? Yeah, this is the crazy thinking of people who have law degrees and put on robes, and they think they can dictate to the people of my state and in other states across this country what should be, according to their own whims and fancy. It's ridiculous. It's pathetic. In a state that has, like you said, just about 13 percent registered voters as Democrats, they've put together, and she selected a map that is the most gerrymandered, the most manipulated map that Utah has seen. They have effectively put just a about every Democrat into one district, turning one district into a Kamala Harris plus 28 districts. That doesn't exist naturally. You have to manipulate the process to do that.

That's what's happened. That's why we are repealing and attempting to repeal the underlying law that has been used as the excuse to do this nonsense. The problem is nobody likes politicians. Nobody likes, you know, Congress is the problem. Our state legislator is a problem. whatever. The real problem here is, yes, in many cases, they have failed to do what they were supposed to do. But in failing to do that, what they did was give the power over to systems, administrative systems, or elites. That's exactly what Prop 4 did. It gave that power to a bunch of unelected people that you can't change.

You have nothing to do with it. How is that representative government? It is not representative government. You may not like the other way, but believe me, at least those people answer to you every election. You have a chance of getting them out. These other people, you don't even know who they are. Why would they be the ones making the decision? It's not the American system, and it's got to stop. If you want to sign this petition, you have to do it by this weekend in person.

it's UFRG, Utahans for a representative government, UFRG.org, UFRG.org. Robert, thank you very much. Good luck. Thank you, Glenn. You bet. I'll tell you, these states, you know, we look at these states and we're like, oh, you know, we're fine. We're going to be fine. No, you're not.

No, you're not, especially with the demographic shift. I'm worried about, I'm really worried about Utah. I think Utah's ripe for the picking right now. I'm very worried about Texas. Texas, Texans who have lived there their whole lives just think it will always be this way. I lived there in the 80s. I moved back in the early 90s, and then I moved away and I came back in 2010 or 11. It wasn't the same state.

It just wasn't the same state. and it's still great. But now with all of these people moving in from blue states, some of them get it. But the way these states are moving now, they're taxing everybody and they're all collapsing. Now everybody is coming saying, I can't live with that.

They didn't learn a lesson. They didn't learn. Trust me, they will do the same thing to your state. You've got to protect yourself and make sure that all of the, levers of control belong in the hands of the people through their elected officials. It has to be done. It has to be done.

We've seen the games that everybody is playing. I'm telling you, mark my words, this may not even be able to be proven until I'm long dead, but I guarantee you at some point, they're going to find that a third of what this government does is graft and corrupt. all of our, I can guarantee you, if we got, you want to get rid of the debt every year, you want to make sure that we're not adding to the debt with the deficit. You want to get rid of the deficit? Clean up the corruption.

That's how much corruption I think there is. And a lot of that is because lobbyists, NGOs, everybody being cozy with everybody, not enforcing the actual law, nobody actually holds. Nobody actually holding their oath to office as sacred. That's what's happening to our country. That all has to be reversed. And the first thing that has to happen is you've got to get the experts out of this. That was the first.

That's how it started. That was Woodrow Wilson's dream. Let's make it an administrative state with a whole bunch of experts. We won't need Congress. We won't need the Senate. We'll have the experts. They'll run the system. We're almost there.

So the last thing Utah or anybody else should do is give the power to the experts. That's what the left wants since Woodrow Wilson. That's the problem, not the solution. Please, if you live in Utah, sign this today or tomorrow. Sunday's going to be tough in Utah. Sign it today or tomorrow. You got today and tomorrow. That's it.

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I sober up and I decide, you know, I'm a moron. I should start reading. So one of the books I pick up in a classics is Wuthering Heights. And I love that book, love that book. It's been 30, 35 years since I've read it. So I don't really remember anymore. I just remember how much I loved it. So when Wuthering Heights came out, I was really excited to go see it.

It's an abomination. the movie. It's horrible. Absolutely horrible. You know me. You know how I cry at a dry. I mean, I, I cry at anything. Not even a Kleenex commercial. It doesn't have to be that good. Dry. I mean, there was nothing. I didn't like any of the characters. In fact, I have to go back and read the book because if that's what was in the book, I questioned what the hell was I thinking 30 years ago? Because it's awful. Every character in it is despicable except one. So I am not allowed to mock you for being a man that reads Wuthering Heights? It's a classic. Okay. It's a classic. So you keep your man card now because you hate it to the movie.

Perfect. You can like classics and still be a man. I don't know about going to the movie if that makes you a man. But I just, I have been waiting for that movie for a year. I think it came out a year ago and I'm like, oh, this is my favorite. This is one of my favorite classics. And honestly, I have to go back and read it because it was, there was no love in it. I didn't see the love in there.

It was, it was sex and twisted and, uh, it was just twisted. It was just twisted. Um, don't see it. Oh, it's garbage. Just garbage. And I had hopes. But I get it. So now I know what I'm doing this weekend.

I'm reading re-reading, re-reading weathering heights, which I don't want to read it once. I don't want to read it twice. Thanks, Hollywood. See, that's what they do. They make you question yourself. Let's see. There's something else here that, oh, I got to ask you. The Senate now saying that they're going to defund ICE, DHS,

they're not going to defund DHS. They're going to shut down the government again, again. It didn't work out the first time for you guys. Do you remember that? I don't know how these guys can continue to do some of the most unpopular things and still the Republicans are afraid of them. I don't get it. I really don't understand it.

So they're going to defund. They're not going to defund ICE. ICE already has their money. Okay. What they're going to defund is the TSA. You know who that's going to hurt? you at the airport. Air travel is already,

already makes a Greyhound bus look like a dream come true. Okay. It's already one chicken running down the aisle away from being a total third world nightmare. Okay. Now we've got, now we've got TSA going to be screwed up again, so it's going to delay all of the flight.

I mean, this has been one of the worst, times to fly, I think, between the snow and the weather and last time they shut it down and they're going to shut it down this time. Can you lay off the people, please? Can you just, can you can, I mean, what is wrong with you? It didn't work the first time. At least Fetterman, isn't it amazing? The guy who has verifiable brain damage is the only one that seems to get it. I mean, that is, that's remarkable to me. I love this guy. By the way, I've got a lot of stuff to talk about, and I don't know which one. I'm letting the insiders on Torch decide what I'm leading with next hour. If you're a Torch member, get on because they're going to be discussing it, and then you're going to vote for whatever we're

going to talk about next. Because I got a lot I'm passionate about today. Now that I've got the weathering heights thing behind me, I think I can go on. Hello, America. It's Friday. We're glad you're here. Thank you so much for tuning in. I want to talk to you about Cuba and Russia. Is it possible we are seeing a Cuban missile crisis redo? Are we seeing a replay of this? And is it possible it ends in many ways the same way it did last time? And I'm not talking just about ships turning around or a blockade. Why did the Cuban missile crisis end? We're going to talk to talk a little bit about history because I think there's a chance there's a chance something bigger is going on here especially when you look at what Russia said yesterday about the U.S.

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Beck. So Jason, I want to check with you. I saw the poll go up. We just asked the Torch Insiders to decide and rank what they wanted to talk about this hour, what they wanted me to start with. And it was Cuba, was it not? Yeah, over, well,

it's gotten closer, but 55% of the audience want Cuba. The second closest one is Save Act at 42%. So most of them Cuba. Good. Really? We'll talk about both of those. Let me start with Cuba. Let me start with something small on Cuba.

A really important statement came from the Kremlin this week. The spokesperson, Dmitri Peskov, he said, Russia didn't abandon the dollar. The dollar abandoned us. Okay. Now, that's an interesting phrase coming from the spokesperson from the Kremlin. Then he said, if conditions change and the dollar became practical again, countries including Russia, might resume using it again. Wait a minute. What? For years,

the message out of Russia has been de-dollarization. Okay. Now the message is more, well, we left because we had to, not because we wanted to. Wait, hold on. Reports, based on Russian internal proposals suggest Moscow is floating a broader economic cooperation with Washington if a Ukraine settlement emerges. Okay. If we settle on Ukraine, what Russia is now saying is maybe we can do joint energy projects. Maybe we can jointly invest in in different things and have cooperation. And maybe, you know, the settlement systems that, you know, Joe Biden just blew up, maybe it would include dollar-based transactions again.

Wait, what? What? This is huge. Russia has been using the dollar as a weapon for a long time, a long time. And so were we. This is the fundamental principle of bricks. you know, and local currencies. Russia was saying that's the future.

Okay. But why are you saying you might go back to it? All right. So there's the first piece of the puzzle. Something's going on and it's tied to Ukraine. Jason, tell me about the Cuban missile crisis. What was that about? What happened?

Cuban missile crisis? Yes. Well, do you, do you, want to know like the, just kind of like, what, this is what happened or what series? Yeah, just,

just basically what happened, basically. And I know I'm hitting you off the, I mean, I don't know if I would recall all the details. So go ahead and just off the top of your head,

what happened? Don't look it up. Don't stall and look it up. Not looking heads off the computer. So Cuban Missile Crisis was when they were going to start positioning nuclear missiles on Cuba,

or at least missiles that could have the rain. to hit the United States, and that was obviously a red flag for us. But the Soviets were responding to multiple other countries within Europe that already had nuclear-capable missiles that could target them. So for them, it was like, this is only fair. For us, this was like, oh, nobody. And then it happened.

Oh, good, good, good. Do you remember the country that it came down to? Because it came down to one country. Nobody remembers this. Nobody remembers this. But this is what the real argument was about. you're right it was about wait a minute only fair is fair you got them all up and down our border you can't have that both ways you're we're going to put them off your coast because you can hit us

within minutes we're going to be able to hit you within minutes and we said nope and we think that this all ended we think this all ended because JFK was so tough and he was like I'm putting the ships and you're not going to cross the line and that's part of it but there was a deal we will remove our missiles from Turkey. Oh, yes. And we won't pursue Turkey. Okay. And Turkey was on the border of the Soviet Union at the time.

And so that was like putting missiles in Mexico. And so we said, we'll remove these missiles. They're old and outdated anyway. That's what we said. And so we'll remove those. And you remove yours and we'll call it, And so we both walked away a winner. My question is, we gave up Turkey.

Now we're headed towards another blockade, possibly, because Russia just sent their ships, some ships down for aid and everything else, down to Cuba. Mexico is doing it. Some other country is doing it. And we've said, you're not going in. You're not pulling into port. whether we do a blockade or not, I don't know, but this field, it just felt very, very similar to me. And I was talking to a friend of mine and he said, Turkey.

Like what? Turkey. That was the end of the Cuba missile crisis. Is it possible that Cuba, that this Cuban thing will be solved by what we do and solve in Ukraine, just like we resolved last time with. Turkey. Is it possible that all of this, because they know Donald Trump wants to control this hemisphere and the last time this happened, Russia gave it up. But we had to give up something. I'm wondering what the deal is going to be. Because now he's talking about, okay, maybe we can use

the US dollar again. Maybe we can use the SWIF system again. They were rebuilding. Remember, we're going to rebuild some. We're going to build something brand new to compete against that. Now he's saying, well, we might use that. What's happening? Does that make any sense to you, Jason? Yeah, so are you thinking that this new economic weapon, basically, that they're considering with Russia is part of this standoff, basically? Refresh my memory on what are you talking about, new economic weapon?

So this is what hit with me with the Russia story was because they, so if you're you think back during the Ukraine war when that first, you know, broke out, they had already wanted to get off the dollar. But it was even more essential after we showed them that their money did not matter in this system that was, you know, the post-Brettonwood system. So we could control, we could make money just go away if we wanted to. So for Russia, they were like, we have to get off, you know, the dollar. That was everything they've been trying to do. Now, this is what doesn't make sense about this for me is now they're saying, wait a minute, let's. let us back in, but we don't want you anywhere near Ukraine.

I mean, it almost seems like suicide on their end. So they really must be desperate. I don't know. Well, A, I think they are really desperate. I think this has exposed them to be the paper tiger that we never thought they were. But they have survived and they've survived because of the ally with the Axis powers, if you will, you know, China and and Iran and everything else. So they're doing that.

But now they're talking about doing trade deals with the United States, talking about oil deals with the United States, and coming back on our dollar, and it all hinges on Ukraine. That's my point. Yeah. Is I think Ukraine is the chit on the table. I think, I think, I think, I completely agree with

you. And wouldn't this be a crazy development, especially in the historical reference, I mean, the Cold War eventually flipped and the Soviets were outnumbered once China was flipped over off their side, over to the U.S. side. How crazy would that be if it was exactly opposite? Russia gets flipped. Because of Ukraine, Russia gets flipped, and they now go against China. Interesting. And I could see that actually happening. It would be fascinating to see how I mean, what the left is going to say. I mean, you know, I remember in the 80s, the left used to just say Ronald Reagan, he's a monster. He's going to get us all killed and vaporized and everything else.

And it worked out the exact opposite, but it took longer than this is taking. You know, this is recent memory now. You don't have to, you didn't have to wait nine years for that thing to begin to fall apart. And this is falling apart right now. And every single expert, which seems to be the theme of today's show, Stop listening to the experts. Every single expert has got us into this trouble. And now the guy who's bucking all of the experts and going an opposite direction seems to be collapsing everything in our favor.

It's fascinating to me because I think you're right. I think this could end with Russia, not being a trusted ally by any stretch of the imagination. but by being somebody we can do business with, this is what Washington wanted us to do and our founders wanted us to do. You don't have permanent allies because things change, people change, countries change. And so what you have are business relationships.

You do trade with people and you use that trade to strengthen or weaken relationships. But you're friends with everybody. you try to be. That's what Donald Trump is doing. We're not going to be, you know, Hillary Clinton's like, gave her the reset button. Remember that? We're a best friend.

We're never going to be friends with Putin. We shouldn't want to be friends with Putin. But we should want to be able to do business with Putin and have some sort of a relationship where we're not throwing the whole world into chaos. And that's exactly what the left was doing under Biden, throwing the entire world into chaos and pitting each other against each other. Why? Go back to how does every great empire end? Every great empire ends the same way in world history with all of the other countries.

There is always a rising power and a falling power. Whatever the great power is that is falling because it's exhausted itself one way or another and made too many mistakes. There's a new rising power that's coming up. And so there's always a war right towards the end because they're like, take them. They're weak. Take them out now. But notice China's not doing that because they're weak themselves.

Everyone in the world, I've said this to you over and over again. This is unique in all of human history. This has never happened like this before. Let me pick it up there. I've got to stop and do a one minute break. And then we'll come back. Trust me, you want to hang out for this. Legacy box.

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Legacybox.com slash records. 10 seconds, station ID. Okay, so in history, this way it always happens. Big empire starts to fall. New empire is on the rise. War takes the old empire out because it's weak and then the new one comes in. Okay. this time our empire is falling at the same time everyone else is falling. There is people want to believe that China is the rising power, but it's not. It's not. They're in more trouble economically than we are, and that's saying something. There is no clean, clear rising power except whoever gets AI, then that will seal the deal on who the rising power is.

So what was the left doing? I'm sorry, I'm just trying to piece this together because there's something big here, and I'm not sure I'm on it yet. But what was the left doing? The left is trying to tear down our empire from the inside. They're doing the job that another rising empire would have done in history. There is no empire that's rising, so there's nobody trying to challenge us that way, unless it's a whole group of countries that we'll try to do it. But they lose if we go down as well. So who's trying to take us down? Our own left. And when the left got in power, what did they try to do? Weaken our

military and quite honestly drag us into war with Russia. Joe Biden himself said, we're not going to do any of these things because that could be World War III. I mean it. No joke. World War three. Right? And then he went and proceeded to do those things he said would cause World War three. It's almost as if the left wanted World War III. Now if you go back to Donald Trump, who I think in many ways is following the advice of the founders on the way he deals with countries and allies, don't have permanent allies. have friends around the world and treat them as friends as long as you can, unless they're attacking you or something, you treat them as friends,

and you do deals with each country, what's best for your country. So that's what he's doing. And instead of having war, he's trying to make peace all over the world. And now Russia, he's making a deal which could end with us having this hemisphere, and Russia kind of saying, okay, we'll stay out, China will stay out, and Russia actually saying, I want to do some deals with the United States. Donald Trump won't do that deal if you're doing it with China as well. So we'll do oil deals with the United States,

which will strengthen Europe as much as they can be strengthened, but also strengthen us and prevent World War III. And I think the chit on the table will be Ukraine. Now here's an excuse on why we wouldn't do it. we wouldn't give up Ukraine because Biden gave the farmland of Ukraine. Look this up. It's horrifying. You can no longer say, we never got into a war and, you know, wanted stuff or took land. Yep, we did. Biden gave much of the farmland and all of the rebuilding contracts to Black Rock and all of these, you know, big hedge funds. Goldman Sachs, all of these people own the farmland and all the reconstruction.

We took. We took. And that's the only reason why I could see he's not going to just give up Ukraine because the pressure on the inside from all of these big financial players, I think it would be too strong where they would be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. We were supporting all of this stuff that was happening. And the only thing he can say is you weren't supporting me. they weren't supporting my plan, you were supporting Joe Biden's plan.

And, you know, sorry, you don't get that. I mean, that's a big enemy to call out. But if anybody will do it, Donald Trump would do it. All right. So we have, we have, let me mark that off. Oh, I didn't get to Mexico, but Mexico is not a friend. Got news for you. Mexico is not a friend.

Canada is a friend with a bad leader. Mexico is not a friend. because they're going to start sending all kinds of aid to Cuba, which the president is saying, no, you're not. We have to keep our eye on that. Now let's move to Congress and the Save America Act. We'll do that next. Real estate is one of the few decisions that can really change the trajectory of your financial life with a single signature. Most people walk into it with a mix of hope and, you know, internet research and a general sense that it'll probably work out all right. Hope's not a strategy. Pricing a home correctly is a strategy. Negotiating terms is a strategy. That is why I built real estate agents.I trust.com. This is a network of agents all across the country who have been carefully vetted for experience, integrity, and results.

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We're going to talk about the Save Act here in just a second, and also the latest on the Epstein thing, which just never seems to stop. But I wanted to take a minute and recognize Jeffrey Steele. He's on the phone with me, and he is a songwriter. And when I say songwriter, I don't mean like,

oh, he's written some songs. 26th songwriters Hall of Fame nominee, 2013 songwriter, Hall of Fame inductee in Nashville, two-time BMI songwriter of the year, three-time NSAI, a songwriter of the year, 16 number one hits,

My Wish, What Harts the Most, Cowboy and Me, Knee Deep, something to be proud of, raise him up, seven-time Grammy nominee, Golden Globe nominated songwriter. I mean, the guys, he's been a little busy.

He's got a nice resume behind him. He has come out with a song that everybody was up in arms about. In fact, he was going to release it and the industry said, no, not without taking one name out, and that's the name Charlie Kirk. He said, don't think so. The name is, the name of the song is a voice. and I want you to hear a bit of it. Listen.

I wish I had a voice. I was silent. She's a housewife, but you can't say that now. I'm the late-off factory worker whose factories China bound. Fighters, the Charlie Kirk Choir all right in our lighters finally waking up years setting the world on fire. Great song. is joining us now. Hi, Jeffrey. How are you? Glenn, thank you very much for having me. That was the no-pressure intro you gave me there. Quick, write a song. Show us how you do. It's a pleasure to be here.

Yeah, it's great to have you. That song is tremendous. I find it, I find it so sad in, in ways, you know, I wish I had a voice, because I think a lot of people feel like they don't have a voice, and they actually do. Tell me about the genesis of this song. That's where it came from. I was writing with a guy one day that had a really great voice and someone that someone told me, hey, this guy's got a great voice. And so my first thought was a voice. What a great idea for a song. So I started writing the chorus and just started thinking about how I felt right now in the world like nobody does have a voice. Nobody feels spoken for. And I think if people did, most Americans, if they felt like they had a voice,

they would speak up for other people that they felt didn't have a voice. So the song kind of took off from there. And then, you know, after Charlie was assassinated, I was at one of those prayer vigils in my hometown, Franklin, Tennessee. And I saw 5,000 people praying and singing. I said, wow, it's like the Charlie Kirk Choir. And I said, this has to go on the song. I mean, everybody's talking about what Charlie was or wasn't.

And all he did was give people a voice, and he was a voice. And I said, this has to go in the song. So the first thing the music business said, a couple people that I played it for, they said, man, we can really help you with this song, but you've got to take that line art and we can't take it to radio. So I'm not taking the line out. And then he told me it was two right wing.

I heard things like it was too right wing. And I was like, what? You know, and I've been doing this for 40 years. And have you read the lyrics of Bruce Springsteen's streets of Minneapolis? A city of flame fought fire and ice near death occupiers boots. King Trump's private army for the DHS, guns belted to their coats, come to Minneapolis to enforce a law, or so their story goes. I mean, you want to talk about political.

Holy cow. And I'll bet you nobody in the industry had a problem with that. No, straight to number one, because, and there's a reason for it. And so a guy like me, who's an independent guy, like yourself, who built your thing very independently through some of the same stuff you've gone through, right? I have to find platforms that will play the song, and conservative platforms, of course, so I have to go find random things that aren't in the music business

to prop me up to at least get it heard. I'm going out and playing it live for people they're standing on their feet, but I can't get arrested as far as getting it played on the normal music industry platforms. So that is the fight, but you've got to remember that the 60s hippie culture was built on Rolling Stone magazine,

Billboard magazine, all these left narrative magazines that propped up all those songs of that culture and got us to where we are right now. And we need the same thing on our end. So I'm so grateful for the opportunity to talk about it because we just don't have it. We don't have it on the right side. I can't believe that do you not getting any radio play on this? No. I mean, some random friends who are reluctantly playing it because they're worried about. And I, and I totally get it like normally Glenn I would write the song and I would try to give it to an artist that I love like a couple years ago I wrote a song for Aaron Lewis called him I the only one that did really well during the COVID era and I would I would give the song to somebody that I thought

could sing it but nobody nobody wants their buses to stop going down the road and they're poised to get you know they still worried about being canceled so I said you know at this late stage in my career I've been doing this for 40 years for everybody else my grandkids kids and my kids said, Dad, you should put this out. This is all you talk about, you know. And you are a voice. You've given your voice to everybody else all these years.

It's time for you to speak up with yours. So I said, you know what? I'll do it. So I did it. And here I am. And I'm so grateful for this opportunity, Glenn, really. It's hard to find.

Number three, this is crazy. And I was just talking to a songwriter myself yesterday. And he said, he was talking about the same thing. And he said, the only thing that can save, and make an impression is iTunes reports what is actually selling. And if I remember right, didn't Cashbox do that years and years and years ago? Yeah.

Yeah, and that's really, iTunes. Go ahead. I was just going to say iTunes is really all that you have left to truly monitor what is actually being sold to the public. It's the only format left. Everything else is stream now. So you can't, you can't really gauge what really is true. truly the biggest, hottest song out there.

Right. And he was saying, you know, Glenn, your audience, you've got this massive audience, if everybody, it's 99 cents for a song on iTunes. If you go spend 99, I don't know anything that's 99 cents anymore. I think even the 99 cents store is now like the $5 store. But 99 cents, go buy this song. On YouTube, it's already, what, number three on iTunes country, number 11 in all genre.

This should be easy to make number one. And I'm telling you, if you can continue to do it over and over and over again, money doesn't talk. It screams. And when, right? When an industry sees this is happening over and over and over again, we're missing the boat, they will change. it's going to be hell and high water to pay the price. But for 99 cents, everybody in the audience can make that happen, make that a reality. Absolutely.

And we just asked to share because, again, we're all grassroots and we can't get through the gate. And when we do get through the gate like we did, oh, boy, do they get mad? They want to shut it down as quickly as they can. And they did with the Bruce Springsteen song. They shut it right down. But as you saw, the Bruce Springsteen song didn't stay. it fell off, nobody cared, because they don't care, because it's not what America thinks. And none of these people, none of these people that are protesting in Minneapolis are,

if they were protesting holding American flags for a new America, I might give them the time of day. But they're not even doing that. They're just protesting, they're protesting against a way of life that there is no other. There is no other. And I mean, you talk about it every day, and it's a blind protest. And the only way that America, Americans can get through is stuff like songwriting, our creativity. Songwriting and songs are so important in the culture, as you know, the politics is downstream from the culture, and the music shapes everything with these kids. And as an older guy that's been around forever, I'm just trying, if anything else,

if I can inspire these younger artists to start writing what they see and writing the truth, we will have these platforms. We will have magazines that represent, you know, and shows that represent the conservative side of the world. That is the bigger side of the world. It's, you know, of America. It's what people really I mean, we saw at the halftime show. Yeah, it's crazy. We saw what it really was.

We saw what people really wanted to see. I mean, what Kid Rock did with Cody Johnson's song. I mean, that just gave it all new life. All new life. It was brilliant. And it goes to show that, you know, this is what America wants. And we're

not saying we don't want other is we're just saying, hey, we got to start somewhere first. We got to start, we got to be the best America, not the second best somebody else. And that's what we've lost sight of. We're just trying to be the second best everything else, and it's never going to work. It never has. And, man, my, my hat's off for the opportunity to talk about it because so many artists want to say something, Glenn, and they can't because, you know, they're going to lose their,

they're going to lose their gigs. They're going to lose their record deals. They're going to get compromised. Can I ask you, Jeffrey, let me, let me ask you. You've been in Nashville for a very long time. By the way, you live in one of my favorite cities in all of the entire country, Franklin, Tennessee. But you've seen this. And it seems to me, last time I was in Nashville, it seems like it's changing. And the culture is changing.

The music is even changing. Where country music used to stand for something. And without even stating it ever, it just seemed to have. boundaries that it wouldn't go where pop music would go. And that seems to be going. And now you're telling me that nobody will play a song that's a great song that's right in line with what country music fans listen to. But it says Charlie Kirk in one line and they won't play it because they're afraid.

That scares the hell out. And it represents the American lifestyle. It always has. And if you look back at, you know, I've had a career that has gone on from the late 80s until now, You know, for groups like Montgomery Gentry, songs like My Town and something to be proud of, those are songs that are about America. They're about faith. They're about family.

My lyric has never changed in 40 years. I'm writing the same song idea that I've been writing my whole career. But now it's hands off. And they're trying to expand. They want to expand. They want to be all-inclusive to everything. And Nashville, as you know, as you know, it's tripled in size. It's a beautiful city.

It's an amazing city, and there's amazing talent here, but there's a definite shift in the direction of what they're trying to paint with the music. Not good. It's a sad thing because, and also, if you look at American culture, in 100 years, the music, all the music of the world was shaped by America. All the different genres of music have been shaped by America. And I'm a guy that studies these things because I'm such a music fan

and I think music speaks so much to so many things. And if you look back to, you know, Woody Guthrie back in the day and his protest songs, you know what I mean? Like, why is it not okay to write a song about Charlie Kirk but Bruce Springsteen can put out a song about,

you know, stop Trump and stop ICE? It just, that's not free speech. You've got to let it all be out there. And that's all I'm saying. Give us a chance and give us, give us an equal platform or at least just give us a chance for people to hear it because I'm seeing the reaction and the live performance as people are on their feet screaming and people want to hear it if you haven't heard it go seek it out find it it's called a voice

geoffrey steel uh once you listen to it call your local uh country music station and ask to just request it and call them every day and read before song um you know it and blend there's an amazing there's amazing video that a company is it too that's worth checking out too, which you can find it the same. Just jeffresteel.com will take you to all the links where you can get it at. But there's an amazing video that we made with people that were heroes that have come through my life in the last 20 years, Afghan vets, a lady with Parkinson's, all these different people that I've crossed path with through my journey with Christ that have been put in front

of my life to put my music in front of. So I brought them all into this video that we made for the song, and it's so powerful. The video went to number two, right out to shoot. It's still one of the most played videos out there. So we're just banging away trying to just get people to listen and just trying to, you know, light the fires. Jeffreysteel.com, jeffresteel.com, and 99 cents. Go buy it on iTunes.

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Okay. I think there's three things that we have to come away with today. One, I don't care if it is Valentine's Day. Don't see Wuthering Heights. It's an abomination. They took one of the most beautiful stories of all time and made it absolutely ugly

in every possible way they could. Do watch the Torch, the podcast that comes out tomorrow with Emma Nissen. It is a completely different, something that I've done. It was filmed up at my ranch, and Emma is an up-and-coming music artist, and she's fabulous. And I really want you to check that out. That's out everywhere. You get your podcast tomorrow, but it's available for Torch members today.

And the third thing, here's Mike Lee on Nicky Minaj quickly. Nicky Minaj, thank you for your support of the Save America Act. Barb's to the rescue, bees in the trap. No matter how many times Mike Lee says something about Nikki Minaj, he will never be cool. That's number three.