The Glenn Beck Program - Why Is the ATF Asking Texas to Hand Over Gun Owner Salaries? | Guests: Sen. Roger Marshall & Kash Patel | 4/19/23

Episode Date: April 19, 2023

Glenn gives updates on the Texas doctor who had his license suspended for a mask mandate violation and the risks of disagreeing with the majority opinion. Glenn and Stu discuss the various new worldvi...ews that are taking over society, including the latest pronouns and the infiltration of the Catholic Church. Charlie Seraphin experienced firsthand what happened during the infamous ATF Waco siege, and he joins to share his experience. Why is the state of Texas warrantlessly probing the salaries of gun buyers? Practicing Commissioner of Camden County Ike Skelton joins to explain why his county refuses to work for the ATF. Former Department of Defense Chief of Staff Kash Patel theorizes how a low-level Air National Guardsman accessed top-secret Pentagon documents. Sen. Roger Marshall has been doing hard work researching the origins of COVID-19, and he just released a report confirming that a lab leak is the most likely origin. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:02 It is good ranchers.com promo code, Glenn. The Glenn back promo. Well, hello America. Oh, there's nothing weird or creepy going on in the world at all today. Well, I mean, the couples who are breeding couples, you know, in Silicon Valley, the same people that are working on artificial wombs, you know, that's not like we're living in some dystopian movie where we're all like, don't do that!
Starting point is 00:02:27 No, it's nothing like that. By the way, a new target on food, I can't wait to tell you about, we've got another, well, some would call it a staple, but I just think that it, I just look at it as global warming devices. We've got another target, and it's on your table. and in fact it's on a lot of people's table, but we got to get rid of it. Yes, it's a world full of experts,
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Starting point is 00:04:14 I don't mean the pun here. off the table. But there is something that people tend to consume from time to time that is causing 10% of global emissions of methane. Now, this is a gas that over the last two decades have trapped 80 times as much heat as carbon dioxide. So it's worse. It's worse than carbon dioxide.
Starting point is 00:04:44 80 times worse. Well, science. Scientists are now telling us experts that we cannot ignore this. It must be eliminated if we are serious at all about reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Yeah, we're not talking about your SUV anymore. We're now talking about something you might have heard of called rice. Now, I hate to point this out, but rice, is a staple for about half the world.
Starting point is 00:05:24 And rice is cheap and plentiful. And rice keeps people alive for about half the world. But, you know, it's, it was something that's really, you know, from the 16th century. It was, it arrived in South America and, you know, outside of Asia, Brazil is the largest rice producer, and rice grows in warm, wet climates, and you know, you've got to have that waterlogged soil, and boy, what happens? What happens? Methane. So we got to stop eating rice. Now, may I ask a quick question? When are we going to start calling these climate change people killers? when are we going to actually admit out loud and say if you are part of this climate cult that is for now that let me let me define this not people who agree that global warming is happening or want to save the world but the part of the cult that we'll say we've got to get rid of rice we've got to go zero emissions. by 20, 30, or we're all going to die. These people are going to kill millions of people.
Starting point is 00:06:54 And I just don't know what it's going to take before people start going, oh, yeah, we shouldn't listen to those people. Those aren't experts. Those are crazy people. Crazy people. Let me give you another expert story. And this one should say everything for you, because if you don't start, you, start saying those things now, it's only going to get harder.
Starting point is 00:07:19 And then you're going to be out. A few weeks ago, we had Dr. Eric Henson on. He's a guy from Texas who lost his medical license through the Texas Medical Board because he refused to obey the mask mandate in 2021. Now, he is an expert. He is an ear, nose, and throat doctor. He knows that wearing masks most times can become harmful to his patients. He knows that every study concludes a cloth mask is ineffective at preventing the spread of a respiratory virus.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Because of this, he didn't wear the mask. he didn't force his patients to wear a mask. And he was reported. And the Texas Medical Board suspended his license. Then he was on this program. And apparently a lot of people called the Texas Medical Board. And lo and behold, what happens? The Texas Medical Board are like,
Starting point is 00:08:34 ah, you can have your license back. Here it is. Job well done, right? Well, if it wasn't for ESG, the hospital that he worked at, the UT Health East Texas Jacksonville Hospital has informed Dr. Henson that his hospital privileges have been suspended indefinitely. Oh, and his insurance company has also dropped him. so he had his license suspended and then when you because you now have to be the police there is no guard of anybody's rights anymore you have to guard those rights because you heard about it and you said this is wrong and you called the government agency said oh you know what we need to be reelected you're right you are so right
Starting point is 00:09:31 but then their henchmen in the public-private partnerships, they took care of business because you won't stand against these people. When the government can't get away with its tyrannical, unconstitutional action, that's when the public-private partnership comes in. This is ESG. and if you don't stand up against it now and we don't get our government under control,
Starting point is 00:10:06 this is what it will be like with you from here on out. Let me just show you what the process is. The administrative state, either at local or state or federal authorities, they'll make up a new law. Okay. Administrative state will make up a new law. We're seeing this happen over and over and over again, and the Supreme Court keeps overturning the administrative state's laws because he can't do that.
Starting point is 00:10:37 But you can't, the courts can't keep up with these people because they don't care. So they just keep passing them. And even if they're overturned, they've already done all the damage. All of it. If Congress, which the GOP has been hijacked long ago by progressives, but if they don't get rid of those progressives and take a stand and win this budget fight, this is going to continue to get worse. Because the reason why it's allowed to stand is because Congress has given the purse strings to the president. By not passing a budget, they have no control over any of the money. And the administrative state can shift it anywhere they want, do whatever they want.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And Congress can't stop them. We are in a place where we have a dictatorial role for the president. And here's what happens. Elites will find a problem that they want to solve. But they're not really trying to solve the problem. They're trying to gain more power and control over you. So in this case, it was COVID. Oh, we got to solve that problem.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Wear a mask. They pass a mandate. What was that? Was that about health? Maybe at first. I'll give everybody a benefit of the doubt at first on COVID. But it quickly became clear. This was about compliance.
Starting point is 00:12:19 You will comply. And things went crazy. They passed a mandate, which they came. can't do. And once people come to their senses and realize the truth of, in this case, the masks, that they do nothing and actually can make things worse, the real damage, the human damage, has already been done because of the public-private partnership with big tech and media. Big tech and media get their marching orders from the government. So whatever the agency says, you'll do this.
Starting point is 00:12:58 this is what needs to happen. The media falls in line and they enforce it. And then social media compounds it because that social media can go after you where the mainstream media can only kind of go against the public or the private citizen. It can only stick people out like me or this doctor because he becomes a public figure. but you, they don't have time. But social media has all the time in the world. All they have to do is just start by putting out,
Starting point is 00:13:35 we're not sure about this source. We're not sure if this person is telling the truth. So then when the damage has done, the media has destroyed the reputations of anyone who stood against, you know, what we all now know is correct. But no one is held accountable. none of the perpetrators of that character assassination has to pay. There's the perpetrators, they don't even run for cover.
Starting point is 00:14:10 They're not afraid. They just move on to the next thing where they're going to destroy careers. Because they control all of the levers. Justice in America is not about justice anymore. In this ESG world, justice only comes in the form of, a fist if you disagree or stand against the power. Look at what's happening with transgenderism. It is perfectly logical to say, I don't want transgender dancers or strippers who are their regular sex in the classroom. It is totally logical and reasonable. But you're destroyed
Starting point is 00:14:57 if you actually try to stand for that because the media, social, media, the public-private partnership, takes care of you and destroys you and tries to make you into something and make you sound like you're saying something that you're not. So the government agencies, after they've destroyed you and then been corrected, and then the media and social media has destroyed you, they don't run, they don't correct, now the government is embarrassed and defied, and they must exact a price. So now you playing the role of the police rise up, force the committee or the commission or the agency to drop the case.
Starting point is 00:15:44 They do, but it's still not over because it's ESG. Now the private partners and the private public partnership step to the plate, the local hospital, which may or may not be getting heat from their out-of-controlled boards or AMA or somebody else, but they know we're part of that system. Somebody knows we better play ball. They drop it. And then
Starting point is 00:16:16 perhaps they've already, you know, maybe they're just a hospital that already has said, you know, these people who say we shouldn't mutilate children. You know, they're crazy. We got to get those doctors out. Maybe these are the hospitals that have already, said, you know, should we even have to treat people who don't play by the rules? I mean, after all, they're grandma killers. And as if that's not enough, the insurance company now needs to cancel your insurance because, you know, ESG and stuff, you're a risk.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And if you stand up a second time, social media is going to attack and smear you. This is all to weaken support for you and to teach others not to stand with you. You know what this is? This is the Chinese model, except they have it in an app. If somebody is on the outs with the public-private partnerships in China, you get a text. You are not allowed to be within X number of feet from that person who is currently on the crap list. You can't talk to them. Otherwise, you're a problem.
Starting point is 00:17:30 and the process becomes the punishment, IRS, ATF, FBI. They can not only impoverish you, but they also send the signal that you're even more toxic than you thought before. And if you try to get a lawyer, good luck, because their firms have ESG scores as well. Their clients, they might lose those clients if they represent a rebel like you. And if the FBI doesn't seize your bank account, your bank just may cancel it.
Starting point is 00:18:00 because, again, your business, you're a risk to them. Same with insurance. You don't even need to be a criminal anymore. You will comply. May I suggest that if you think that this system has got to stop, you not only fight it at the state level in your state, make sure you are stopping ES&G, and you have control of your state entities and agencies.
Starting point is 00:18:38 If you're in Texas, I wouldn't mind if you called the UT Health East Texas Jacksonville Hospital and tell them politely that you think Dr. Henson should be reinstated. The number is 903-541, 5,000. That's 903-5-4-4-4-4-5-1. 1, 5,000. This is a hospital that even though he's had his license put back into place, because he was right, they kicked him out. Also, Texas legislature, call them, demand the legislation SB 666 to protect doctors like Dr. Henson is passed. All right. Let me tell you about relief factor. Ramon wrote in about his wife's experience
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Starting point is 00:20:58 And she's given all kinds of taxpayer money to this Chinese communist company. Well, now we find out that, you know, one of, of the key minerals that we need in lithium ion batteries would be lithium. And so we now find out that the Chinese company is going to be looking like they're going to get their lithium from the Taliban. Thursday, last Thursday, executives of the Chinese company meant with Afghan Minister of Minerals and Petroleum. He's a senior leader of the Taliban. He offered a $10 billion investment for access to Afghan's lithium deposits. The company was identified as Goshen, the company that Whitmer's giving all the money to.
Starting point is 00:22:02 So not only did we give the airport to China. China cost us billions of dollars to build. But this was the other thing that was suspected why Biden would do this as a gift to China because of the lithium deposits. So we strengthen them. Now we're bringing that communist money working with terrorists into Michigan. Boy, if you haven't joined an activist group, you really, really need to. the Glenn Beck program. Have you heard the phrase, happy wife, happy life? I mean, it's true.
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Starting point is 00:24:38 But others are doing it because they just don't want the hassle. They don't want to be unpopular. They want to fit in. And this is what's happening. in our classrooms. Our kids are learning from this and it's normal. You, especially in this society, kids want to be noticed. They want to be special. They certainly don't want to be out of the Cool Kids Club. I've been out of the Cool Kids Club my entire life. Would I like to be in the Cool Kids Club? Sure. Do I care? At this point, I mean, if I cared, I'd probably lose a few
Starting point is 00:25:25 LBs, but nope, don't care. Okay. However, I want to show you how insidious this is because it is natural to feel this way. I was just rejected as a member at a club. Now, I've lived in this neighborhood forever. I passed on the membership when we moved in because, you know, you get a golf and I don't play golf and I don't hang out at country clubs. No thank you. So Tanya and I just passed on it. Never even thought of it until recently, maybe two years ago. And, you know, usually things go quickly, but no.
Starting point is 00:26:15 there's a couple of people that disagree with me politically. And so I jumped through extra hoops and had extra meals with extra people and ask, you know, they question my integrity and everything else. And I just about lost my mind during that. But I thought, you know what? I just want it because I have so many meetings now at our dinner meetings. Tanya doesn't trust anyone. So we don't ever have anyone over at the house, ever. And it drives me not. And it drives me not. But, okay. So we can't have anybody over the house. So if I want to have a business meeting, I have to drive into Dallas.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Or if I have something where it's, you know, kind of a friend, but not, you know, not a friend, not like you, Stu, that she will let in the house. Ooh, on the list. I want to have dinner and I want to have it like I'd like to just be able just to walk there. Yeah, close by. Yeah, sure. Not have security and everything else. So when they rejected me, what, a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I found myself caring all of a sudden because now I wasn't in the cool kids club. Now I've been rejected from the cool kids club. That only made me, you know, want to build a 500 foot flagpole in the property that I happen to own right on the other side of the fence of that club and fly the biggest freaking pirate flag you've ever seen. but, you know, my better angels occasionally, you know, help me out a bit. But anyway, this is so normal. And if it's happening to somebody like me where I'm feeling that and I hate it. Wait, what's normal? Just the wanting to be to fit in.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Okay. That's what's happening with our kids. Culture is being jammed down their throat, not only in the school by the school teachers, you know, and all of the, all of, all of the stuff that's going on under schools, but also all throughout social media. You can be special. You can be recognized. You can be protected in an even more special class than just a kid if you're trans by whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Right. It gives you special status that you're probably desiring for other reasons. And I think between that and the fact. that kids, I mean, I would have done this. When I was a kid, I would have said, you know, yeah, I'm a turtle today. If you had to, because I would just love being able to have that control over the teacher. Because that makes you popular because you're the one that can, you know, I got a little power over the teacher. Oh, 100%.
Starting point is 00:29:03 100%. I would absolutely. I would request the school to build me turtle tunnels that I'd have to crawl through to Absolutely. From class to class. I mean, I can remember every other week or so, there would be some cause at our school that people would walk out for. And there would be this big protest. And the local paper would come and say, students united today for blah, blah, blah, cause.
Starting point is 00:29:28 And I say blah, blah, blah, cause because I never knew what the cause was, nor did I ever care. What I knew was we were walking outside of the school in a direction that was not to math class. See, I grew up in a time where we had. a bunch of nuns in black habits. And you're not getting past them. You're not walking out. Nope. Not walking out.
Starting point is 00:29:48 You have a child. What grade is she in? Sarah? She's a freshman in high school. Gosh, I can't believe that. That does not seem possible. So what is she seeing in her school? So she was telling me the other day that you are allowed to pick your pronouns.
Starting point is 00:30:05 You're allowed to pick a new name. You're allowed a new identity anytime you want. Anytime, not just at the beginning of the year. Well, I think it's day by day. I mean, it has to be like the day before that day or whatever. Oh, so tomorrow I'm coming as a dinosaur. Well, there's bunny and bunny self. There's what?
Starting point is 00:30:21 Wait. Bunny. Bunny. Like Easter bunny, bunny, bunny? Bunny and bunny self. Right. So when you talk about yourself, you would refer to bunny self. But the teacher has to call you bunny.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And that's not a name change. That is a pronoun change. Yeah. The pronoun is bunny. Identity. Let's ask for the bunny. Let's ask what if there's more than one bunny in the class? My gosh, I would have had a field day with this.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Oh, my gosh. I would have been torturing my teachers with us. Look at how this. This is an agent of chaos. You know chaos does not come from any place good. Can you imagine being a teacher and the kids that are just screwing with you? Well, that's the thing. The teachers have to abide by it or they get fired or some sort of suspension.
Starting point is 00:31:08 So when you go in and you say I'm they them, but the teacher says, hey, you or he, she, they get in trouble. And kids can change their names, can change their identities, whatever they want. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. This is, you know what? Have you seen the latest that just came out on Dylan Mulvaney? He wrote a few years ago. This is 2021.
Starting point is 00:31:32 He said, I'm a trans non-binary actor and I've had trouble finding roles. So my friend wrote me a femme character in a commercial. The guy, what he's doing now is acting. He claims to be non-binary and trans. Maybe he thinks he is. Maybe that's legitimate. It seems legitimate. But what he's doing when everybody's like,
Starting point is 00:31:57 he's making fun of girls. That is a character role he's playing. Why? because he wanted a job. He wanted to be popular. That's all this is. That's all this is. And so when you stand up against it,
Starting point is 00:32:20 you get slammed down by the bullies in class. So every time that you ever had a bully in your life and you just like, you know, just leave it alone. You trained yourself to just leave it alone. we've got to train our kids to not just leave it alone. No, I'm sorry, I'm going to stand. I've said for years, you're going to college, just get the degree, leave it alone, get the degree. No, no, absolutely I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:32:53 What do you mean you'd say no? So you don't speak out against these things? Just be quiet, get the degree. You know you're going to get the degree. Just move on. No. It is more important to protect. your
Starting point is 00:33:06 integrity muscles. You train yourself that I'm not going to use those. I don't have to use those. No, you need them. Now more than ever. You must take stands because it's getting weaker and weaker. Look what's happening. How did, in 1933, the churches almost dropped the Old Testament.
Starting point is 00:33:33 within six months of Hitler. He said, you know, a lot of Jewish stuff there. Okay. The churches voted and almost dropped the Old Testament. Why? Because they had already been infiltrated. They had already played along, gotten along, didn't stand up for anything, didn't stand up against what was going on in this, you know, it was like.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Like one guy, he was an archbishop, I think, this one guy was the guy who stood up and said, you know, we shouldn't probably be killing our kids and calling them undesirables and killing out of mercy. I don't think that fits. One guy. And he wasn't popular. Once you lose that, look what's happening. Why do you think Catholic Church being infiltrated?
Starting point is 00:34:31 Why do you think that is? To sow the seeds of distrust, to sow the seeds of distrust, to sow. the seeds of, of, I don't know, something else to make sure it stays in line, they're training you. And it's natural to want to be left alone and just be in the cool kids club. You know what? We were born at a time where we don't get that privilege. We instead get the privilege of standing up for what is right and true. that's much better than any stupid club.
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Starting point is 00:35:40 would protect me from the government. government. Oh, wait, that's, wait, is that stupid old dusty phrase, governments are instituted among men to protect those rights. Oh, wow, that's weird. They should be doing that themselves. Anyway, I was talking about your online life. Life luck can help secure that. Nobody can secure everything. But I think they're the best in the business. They have the restoration team. If something does happen to your information, and I'm telling you, with AI, you're going to see Hacking into your stuff double overnight. You're going to need LifeLock.
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Starting point is 00:36:39 How well do you hold up in a crisis? How about a medical crisis? If an accident happens, are you the one? that's like helping or are you the one running away? Well, am I the one who's lost the leg? Well, because if I lost the leg, I'm probably not helping. I'm probably screaming a lot.
Starting point is 00:37:06 We all know you're the one that would cause the accident and then you'd walk away and tell someone else to handle it. That's how that plays out. Is it? Yes, I think so. Now, look, if you are the type of person who wants to help and you know, you don't want to be the, you want to be the anti-Glen in this particular situation, having a little bit of training, the right tools at hand, can, you know, you know, you don't want to be the anti-glen in this particular.
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Starting point is 00:38:23 Stu and I were just, we're talking off air. And by definition, if we are followers of God, we should know we're never going to be popular. We're never going to be popular. And in America, it has been popular to be a Christian. It's been fine. And that's why we're so soft on it because we were never challenged. Well, now we are.
Starting point is 00:38:47 And so we have to say, oh, was this, I hate to use this, a country club? Or was this, did I go because I actually believe it and I'll stand up for it? But you're never promised you're going to be. In fact, you're promised you're not going to be popular. Yeah, you're promised that there's going to be all sorts of challenges to your human instinct, right? Yeah. Every human wants to partake in earthly pleasures, and you're not supposed to do that, right? Every human wants, you know, easily provable evidence, right?
Starting point is 00:39:22 Like, you want to be able to see something. And in a way, faith is a challenge to that. Everyone wants to be able to see and touch and prove things, and you're taking a leap of faith. that's not easy for human beings to do. And this is the same thing. Like, everyone wants acceptance. Everyone wants to be adored. Everyone wants that adoration that comes with being popular and cool.
Starting point is 00:39:42 And, you know, look, the teachings are very clear here that you're probably not going to get that. That's not really going to be. The whole point here is you're supposed to be standing up. I mean, the thing's kind of based on a guy who wound up getting crucified over these types of things. Right? Like, it's kind of, you know. He wasn't up there going, man, I was trying to be cool. Like, why won't you let me into your club?
Starting point is 00:40:06 It's taking a stance that you know to be unpopular. You know, we get these challenges sometimes around elections where we're asked by many, and particularly in the political realm, to do things that we might know from past teachings and lessons and faith beliefs that are not really the thing we should be doing. And we're told, well, we need to do it to win this election. And you know what? Like that's the type of thing that the faith is supposed to cure, right? Like, if you're executing that faith, you still do what you believe to be the right thing, even if it counts as a loss.
Starting point is 00:40:42 A loss as big as hanging on a cross was kind of the basis of us. We have so expertly been relegated, and we've done it ourselves, relegated our faith out of everything. I'm not looking for the Pope. No, either am I. I mean, some of the popes have been really bad. I'd like to stay away. This current pope, I'm definitely not looking for the pope. But we don't care anymore about lies in government.
Starting point is 00:41:16 They are lying under oath. They are lying to our face. And we all know it. The Democrats and Republicans and independents, we all know it. But we're like, eh. where's our faith in action? My father said to me, I was going back to school and I was going to study philosophy and theology. And he said, oh, philosophy.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Is it applied philosophy or is it mental, you know, masturbation philosophy? And I said, what do you mean? And he said, when philosophy is just meant for thoughts, it's garbage. when it is meant to figure things out on how best to work in the world with other people and figure out how to make things better, then it's applied. You can apply it. But which are you studying? And I was like the application because I want to be a better person. It was like, good, good.
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Starting point is 00:45:39 was also involved in something with the FBI and ATF. And I wondered how any of this played. His dad was, I think, a vice president or something. He was the head of a station here in Dallas, KRLD. And they were reporting on Waco. And David Koresh wanted to have messages put out on KRLD in exchange for children and, you know, him, you know, just walking out peacefully. It didn't happen. but the conversations happened and David Koresh did go on the air. And I wondered, what did dad's thinking about that whole situation?
Starting point is 00:46:29 Did that play into his son wanting to be an FBI agent? And his son who grew up with a dad who had to have been thinking, what's the moral thing to do? What is the right thing to do here? So we have his dad on today, and he's coming in 60 seconds. Getting yourself and your family out of debt has always been important, but I think you'll agree it's more crucial now than ever before. Whatever is coming down the pike at us, it's coming pretty fast,
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Starting point is 00:48:10 Charlie Serafin, the station manager, former station manager at KRLD News Radio here in Dallas during the Waco tragedy, which happened 30 years ago this week. Charlie, welcome. How are you? Good morning. It's my fault. I'll take full responsibility. So this must have been really hard. I know that we wanted to do a special.
Starting point is 00:48:40 on Waco and the Branch Davidian said they'll do it as long as we run an hour from their perspective and we started looking into some of the details on what they wanted and it just wasn't acceptable to us. So we didn't do it. Good choice on your part. Yeah. It wasn't really a hard stretch on that one is a but you when you were at k rlde you had children being held hostage and we all saw that train wreck coming uh how did this how did this happen with david caresh and what were your thoughts during it yeah probably not as much as i saw that train wreck because um i try to cut through it and i know we have limited time so we got to call into the newsroom that evening the evening of shootout and a one of the young producers came out and said we got a guy on the line claims he's
Starting point is 00:49:42 calling from inside the compound and I said man I better take it because my first thought was this is a prank it's a fraternity somewhere you know SMU or something and some people are going to have some fun with a you know a serious situation so I got on the phone started talking to the guy the guy was Steve Snyder. I can tell from his accent. He was from Wisconsin. I'm from Wisconsin. His accent was stronger than mine. And we come to find out after the fact, he grew up about 45 miles from from where I did, about the same time I did. I think he might have been a couple of years older. So anyway, we're having a chit-chat. And I'm trying to ask him questions, hey, what's going on in there? How many wounded do you have? How many children? What's the deal? Why don't you let the children out?
Starting point is 00:50:25 And he's very unresponsive because he says, well, I really can't answer that. David had happened to said. Well, I can't answer that. David happened to ask that. So he kept deferring to David. But, and finally, he just said, well, here, I'll just. And then he handed the phone over to David. So now I'm talking to David Gresh.
Starting point is 00:50:40 And I know it's David Gresh, because I've heard his voice on CNN. He did an interview earlier in the evening. And as we're talking, he is, he is unresponsive. He just goes into a ramble. And it's a biblical-sounding kind of language with a lot of vows and they's and shells and self. And, you know, it's got help peas on the other words and all that. But he's not really, he's not really there. And he keeps talking about himself in the past tense.
Starting point is 00:51:13 The birds of the fields shall eat upon the flush of the lamb and blah. And he's going on and on about being the lamb and about being dead. And I'm going, man, this guy is suicidal. And I'm not a psychiatrist, but I've dealt with a lot of nutcases in my life. You know, we're in media when we have the opportunity. And he was so far out there, and he just was really tightly wound. And so after about 45 minutes of trying to talk him off the cliff with a lot of funny little nuances in between, only the second half of, or maybe the last 10 minutes of the conversation was recorded,
Starting point is 00:51:51 because I'm on a business line. They called in on a business line, and we can't put that line on the air. Somebody brought me one of those little suction cups, if you think back 30 years. Oh, my gosh. And so you could record it. Yeah, so we could record it. And the recording was terrible quality, but someone transcribed it after the fact. So I have a little bit of our private quote conversation.
Starting point is 00:52:17 And again, I'm like a counselor. I'm just saying, like, yeah, but you don't have to die. And what about all your followers? And it, you know, it could be okay. And what about the children? Let's let some more children out. okay and and you know I'm trying to be as conciliatory as I can we put them on the air for a little bit and he again he
Starting point is 00:52:36 launched into his biblical gibberish I would call it and and then the rest of history people know most of those stories but what I have to share with you Glenn is just kind of bizarre when you live through a traumatic experience and it was a traumatic experience for me I had I you know I had I had I've got I'd be interviewed some FBI agents and I'd seen them at the scene of crimes and I covered a lot of stories and stuff like that. But I never had FBI agents calling me at my house in the middle of the night. And I never had the code words with ATF so we could make sure it was really them. And I had never been involved and I'd never been attacked by the journalism community,
Starting point is 00:53:18 which the American Society of Professional Journalists and the Columbia Journalism Review and all these people. And they're all going like, all these terrible people, they inserted themselves into the story. How could the government, you know, how could the media work with the government? I mean, in today's world, isn't that a laugh? I mean, really? It's incredible to me, especially at that time, because I know your record. You started at KFRC, worked at K-1-1, K-CBS, K&X. I mean, you're a news guy when news guys were news guys. Yeah, it's almost an embarrassment to have that affiliation now because Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:00 If you tell somebody, you know, you're a news guy, they just, you know, they run. And I don't blame them because I have the same feeling. It's like, how did I have a, we could do a whole program and how it happened because I have a really good theory on journalism school and the concept of objectivity. But we don't, that's not today. Today is a 30th anniversary, but something I wanted to share with you. So I went through this traumatic experience. And afterwards, and I, we got literally hundreds of letters from people. And I'm going to give you an example.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Here's a postcard holding it in my hand. I took it out of the box last night. My wife said, you need to open the box. I said, I don't know. And she said, open the box. It's a moving box full of stuff. Just junk, just everything thrown in there. It says, David, you have made about all the points you can make.
Starting point is 00:54:47 So I command you and all your people to come out peacefully, signed God. It was a desk that David Koresh care of the radio station. And there was, there's so much of that stuff. Oh, my gosh. People don't realize how the world, the outside world, and from all over the country and foreign countries, people sent us stuff because they had an idea. Here's a, here's a tape of my past, my favorite sermon from my pastor. Just play this for him and he'll come out.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Have you, can we get some of that off-the-air conversation from, from you? I'd love to be able to play some of that on the air. Well, I have some of the on-the-air conversation, but the off-the-air conversation, the tape is, it may be one of the cassettes in the box. I don't know, because there's some that are not labeled,
Starting point is 00:55:44 but I have a transcript of it, and then I found, I just found a lot of, a lot of real, there's a lot of stuff that I would say is funny because, and probably wasn't funny at the time, the people were sincere in trying to solve the problem. I found a letter from a guy from New Jersey who wrote to the president of NBC News on my behalf. I don't know who he is. I don't, you know, I had no relationship.
Starting point is 00:56:10 And he told him that the guy's name was Michael Gartner at the time. And I did two days of interviews with Brian Gumbull on live. And that was difficult because he kept asking me about his, you know, David's state of mind. And I didn't want to say the guy's a nutcase and he's suicidal because I, I was afraid he would be listening, and that would be enough to set him off. And next thing, you know, we'd see flames coming out the windows, which we saw that point. And when you saw how it ended, what were your thoughts about ATF and FBI? Well, my thoughts about ATF were consistent from the beginning, just because of my personal exchange interchanges with them.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I had an ATF agent come into my office and say, give me a copy of the tape of the, interview you guys did a couple nights ago, there were fugitives that were on the run, and they were outside, Divideons that were outside the compound, and they were scattered, they were running as fast as they could, but they would stop at pay phones or at friends' phones or whatever and call in to the overnight show at the radio station. And when they, and then we would run tape on it, and I had those tapes, and I knew that eventually somebody would come for him. So this ATF guy comes in and says, give me a copy of the tape of so-and-so, and I said, I got it right here in my desk, give me a subpoena.
Starting point is 00:57:27 and he goes, well, come on, man, help me out here a little bit. Give me, you know, I don't mean. I said, no, it's our station policy. I've got it right here. It'll take you 10 minutes. You can get a judge to give you a subpoena. It's not a big deal, but that's our process. And please, you know, I've been helping you guys out and following your process, help mine.
Starting point is 00:57:46 And, oh, come on, man. He goes, you know, even the bank down in Waco, they released all of his banking records to us without a subpoena. Wow. That's a federal crime. It is. And here's a government agent sitting in my office telling me that he's confessing to a crime. And at the time, even I knew that. And I went like, man, you guys are some dumb, you know what.
Starting point is 00:58:10 And so it's like, okay, the other thing that was funny, and this is a sidebar that's not part of any Netflix documentary and no one ever heard, when the ATF first started calling in again, I was real concerned about pranks and about false information and everything. because you don't get in that situation very often where you're a participant in the actual story. So I told the first ATF guy that I talked to, the agent in charge, I said, look, here's a deal. We have to have a code. So when your agents call in that I know they're legitimate, you may need something quick like, hey, say this or do this or whatever, because we got, you know, somebody in the crosshairs or we're about to do this. I don't know what you're going to do.
Starting point is 00:58:47 It doesn't matter. But we've got to have a code. So he says, okay, we'll give you our Social Security numbers. I'm telling the truth. So the ATF agents would call the radio station and say, this is Agent Smith, Social Security, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, right? That was the code, and they did it. So when the FBI came in and took over, and this is one of the reasons my son probably winning the FBI is that there's so much more buttoned up than the ATF. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:13 The FBI guy, so the Asian in charge, I think it was Jeff Jamar. He calls, and I go, look, you know, we're doing this deal with the ATF, and we've got to have your Social Security numbers, have your agents. identified himself. And he just started laughing. He just laughed so hard. And he went like, I don't think so. And I thought, well, good for you. So he said, we'll give you our birthdays. So he started rattling, you know, the agent would say this is agent, seraph, and then my birthday is 11-849, blah, blah, blah. So I was funny. Do you, Charlie, do you have a second to hang on for just a couple more minutes? Oh, sure, yeah. Okay, good. I'm here as long as you need me. All right. Let's take 60 seconds and then back with Charlie Serafin.
Starting point is 00:59:56 It is the 30th anniversary of the raid on Qarresh and the Branch Davidians. And he was here in town at KRLD covering it and interacting with David Koresh. Relief Factor is our sponsor. Everybody has to deal with pain, you know, periodically in life. And relief factor can help you. But I will tell you the kind of pain that I had to take. some action. I went everywhere trying to find something that didn't involve a narcotic to kill the pain. And I couldn't find one. And then I found relief factor. And it is game changing. If you are dealing with pain,
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Starting point is 01:01:53 I think it's rotten from the, you know, core in Washington. I don't know how far down it goes. But now that he was an FBI agent and he has started to blow the whistles and you've seen what's happened to him, what are your thoughts? Well, I'm a little proud of our children all that, but I have five sons. And Kyle is among the best and the brightest in our country. I'm just, I'm going to say that and not just as his father as an observer of people. He's an exceptional human being. His grasp of facts, his cognitive ability, his intellect, his vocabulary, he's been a voracious reader, his entire life.
Starting point is 01:02:47 He's read so much more than I have. He's a lot smarter than I am. And so when he told me that this was something he's going to do, I was very proud. and when I went to Quantico and went to the graduation, listened to the speeches, and especially when I met the agents who graduated at the same time with him, man, oh man, if you wanted to put together, you know, the all-American team, that's what they were. These are awesome people, former military, former police officers, physically fit,
Starting point is 01:03:19 weapons experts, sharp as tax, really, just a, in, an incredible group of coworkers. And then he wasn't very long. And I could tell in our conversations, he was going like, man, there's stuff going on here that's just not right. I mean,
Starting point is 01:03:38 almost from the beginning. Well, actually from the beginning, Jim Comey gave the graduation speech. And I was there with Kyle's mom, and, you know, we listened.
Starting point is 01:03:46 And, and I came away and I went, wow, that's a really good speech. And Kyle goes, nah, BS. I go, what do you mean?
Starting point is 01:03:55 He goes, I've heard it five times already. I was like, oh, it's a canned speech. It sounded like it was really spontaneous and really, you know, really aimed at the audience. Right. And then, so he was a little bit skeptical. Then when he went into the counterterrorism unit, it was like, oh, man, this is a joke. We just waste our time, follow these people around. Nobody does anything about it.
Starting point is 01:04:17 We know who the bad guys are. They don't pick them up and burrow up. And then he got out of that. And then he got into the surveillance unit where they would, traveled around the country and go out to Portland and be in D.C. at the riots there, you know, all the stuff. And he, same thing. He said, you know, we know who the bad guys are. Um, he, his first assignment, which I don't, he doesn't talk about one, his first assignment was for the, one of them was for the Trump inauguration. And there was a young guy that was shining lasers at
Starting point is 01:04:47 helicopter pilots eyes trying to blind them to make a helicopter crash into the, you know, into the celebration. and Kyle was teamed with a Secret Service agent, and they went out, and they found the guy. They watched, and they saw the thing going up through the trees, the laser, and they went over, and the guys went into a restaurant. There were five of them, and they went into the restaurant. Kyle and his partner went in. They arrested the individual with the laser. Kyle stayed there and killed the others.
Starting point is 01:05:16 It would probably be a good idea for them not to get out of their seats. And at the time, when he told me, I thought, wow, that, you know, and he said, They're probably just students, dad. They were probably just kids from, you know, doing something stupid. But as time went on and we learned about Antifa, which we didn't know about it. It wasn't publicized back then. He says, no, those are definitely Antifa. There was no question of it.
Starting point is 01:05:40 They were organized. I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing all of this information and being the dad to Kyle that you have been American patriot, truly, I think. Charlie, thank you so much. program. All right, I have a great story for you, and you're in it. I want to tell you about Henrietta. This is a young woman who found out that she was pregnant. Her boyfriend wanted her to have an abortion. She planned on it when she reached out to pre-born clinic. They recommended, before you do that, have an ultrasound. Henrietta declined several times because she was scared of seeing her baby and it would complicate the decision. She went to the abortion clinic.
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Starting point is 01:07:00 That's pound 250, keyword baby, or go to preborn.com. That's preborn.com slash Beck. That's preborn.com slash Beck, sponsored by preborn. Tonight, Stu Does America. Glenn TV, back to back. Don't miss it, blazTV.com slash Glenn. The promo code is Glenn. Tonight's Wednesday night special on Blaze TV, April 19th, 2023, 30 years to the day, since the Branch Dividian compound erupted in a massive fireball,
Starting point is 01:07:39 effectively ending the 51-day siege. In the end, four federal agents were killed, 20 were wounded, and 75 Branch Dividians, including 25 children, would be dead. If you lived through it, it was an absolute nightmare. And the question was, why would they do that? Why would they do that? Waco, one of the biggest examples of what a reckless,
Starting point is 01:08:03 and weaponized government is capable of, and you'd think this would have kickstarted, you know, more congressional oversight into reining in some of these agencies. But the federal bureaucracy has expanded exponentially, as has their constitutional breaking actions. Tonight, I'm going to show you how bad it has gotten just under the Biden administration. I'm going to show you it's not just bad places like the ATF, but under the radar agencies, like the Department of Energy and OSHA, the Department of Agriculture. It's been 30 years, and the push to weaponize all of these agencies is happening like never, ever before.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Tonight, a Wednesday night special at 9 p.m. You don't want to miss it. 930 on my YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash Glenn Beck. If we bring you anything of value once a month, would you consider? subscribing to blaze tv blaze tv.com slash glen use the promo code glen and you're going to save all right let me tell you a story that i could not believe was happening in texas and we have a call in to the attorney general and others to find out what the hell is going on texas Texas apparently secretly gives its citizens income to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, and Explosives without a warrant.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Now, this has led at least one person being monitored by the feds without a warrant through federal gun background check systems. Now, it's my understanding, Stu, aren't those background checks supposed to happen? and then destroyed. Right? Certainly not just able to be held by the ATF. Right. Right. So the ATF will take this and they'll look at the guns purchased.
Starting point is 01:10:15 And if there's anything that's expensive, they go to the Texas, what is it? The Texas Workforce Commission and say, hey, give us the salaries for all of these people. And Texas has been handing over. our salaries in Texas to the ATF without a warrant. How can that be possible? How can that be possible? Either side of that is both of those sides of that are illegal, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:47 I mean, the whole point of the background check situation, which of course a lot of people who really appreciate the Second Amendment fight against, not because they don't want people to be checked. Because they don't want this. Because they don't want this. They don't want a master list of gun owners to be out there. And of course That's why gun registration
Starting point is 01:11:06 Always comes before gun confiscation. Right. And we've been told over and over again They don't have a list. They can't have a list. It is illegal for them to maintain a list. Well, apparently. But apparently not. And then just requesting a bunch of salaries is not something that we normally would look fondly on either.
Starting point is 01:11:27 I mean, both of these things, on both sides of this issue seem illegal. So the ATF is getting. giving information on what most likely are innocent suspects. You've gone from a citizen, and if you don't make enough money to buy a certain gun, then you become a suspect, and your name is given to the FBI. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Okay. Now, there's lots of reasons you might buy a gun than, you know, other than my salary allows me to, to buy this. You could have saved up for it. You could have gotten, you know, somebody died and left you a couple of thousand dollars. You could just be an irresponsible person and putting too much on your credit card even though you can't really afford it. Right. That's not, I mean, those aren't crimes. But that's a reason now for investigation. They, they suspect you, if you buy a gun that they don't think you can afford. They suspect you of buying that gun for
Starting point is 01:12:34 someone else and taking the money illegally. Which that would be illegal. That would be illegal. But I'm sorry, this is America. If you have evidence, swear out a warrant. What are you talking about? What year do you think this is, man? This is not the way things work anymore, apparently.
Starting point is 01:12:53 That's amazing. And of course, it justifies all of the sort of slippery slope level skepticism of any of the, quote, unquote, gun and control measure. Absolutely. Most of us look at the gun control thing. At least I shouldn't speak for everyone. But I'm not a huge gun-officionado, right? But like you look at this and you say, if they take an inch, they will take a mile.
Starting point is 01:13:18 They'll take a mile every time. And they're, you know, they're stating what they want to do. Ike Skelton is on with us. He's from Camden County, Missouri. He's the presiding commissioner. he's having things happen in his county, and he says, we refuse to work with the ATF. Ike, why won't you work with the ATF?
Starting point is 01:13:44 Because they're an unconstitutional agency, and I believe they're using everything that they can to remove firearms from the people. You just don't hear people talk like that anymore. Just get right to the point. There it is. So have they approached you guys? on anything. We were just sharing the story from Texas. We just
Starting point is 01:14:05 found out that the state of Texas through the Texas Workers Commission or something is giving our salaries, if you buy a gun in Texas, the ATF is looking at who's
Starting point is 01:14:21 purchasing guns. They go then and say, we need the salaries of all these people. And then they decide if that gun is too expensive for you and if they think it's too expensive, for you, you're on a list, and you have to be investigated. Good God. No warrant, nothing.
Starting point is 01:14:39 No, I believe they're trying everything that they possibly can, in my opinion, to not just take firearms out of people's hands, but to also close down all of the small mom and pop operations they can because they don't have the manpower. Correct. Truly watch everything that they want to watch. And if they can get it boiled down to the big box stores and the online shops that are selling firearms, I think they would prefer to do. that. We received, our planning and zoning commission received four separate emails,
Starting point is 01:15:07 and they go like this. They state the name of a business, operates a firearms business at, and gives an address, and then they say, how is this property zoned? And then they ask, is the business in compliance with all zoning and business licensing requirements? Jeez. So, yes, exactly. So I figure that if you have an unwitting planning and zoning operation or somebody else in government. I mean, you've got your folks just, hey, it's a ATF. I'm going to give them the information they want, right? Well, thankfully, our planning and zoning is a little bit different.
Starting point is 01:15:38 They believe an awful lot like we do here in Camden County in general. And so they forward these emails to me. And I started to look at things. I called. I contacted the one outfit. They have been in business for over 15 years. They don't renew their FFL until next year. I have subsequently been in contact with three of the,
Starting point is 01:15:59 are two of the other individuals of these four, and they have also been in business for over 10 to 15 years, and those two individuals, their license don't renew until 2025. So I'm betting that if someone from playing in zoning would have said, well, no, I've never heard of these businesses, or they don't have a license, or they're not, we don't know about their zoning, then I believe the ATF would have used that as a tool to take away that FFL.
Starting point is 01:16:27 And I'm sure you've seen the memo, from the White House that has, when Joe Biden came in, the memo from the White House really ramped up ATF operations. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and I think that's what they're, I think they're trying to do every single thing they possibly can. Well, it's an all-government-wide problem to solve. He wants all government agencies involved in this.
Starting point is 01:16:50 So that means you're going to be attacked from every possible direction if you have anything to do with guns. Have you stated that you're not working with the ATF to the ATF? Shall I read the letter to you that we sent them? And this is by our three commissioners, first district commissioner James Gohagen, second district commissioner, Don Williams, our county attorney, our county treasurer, and our county sheriff, all signed this letter. It says, on our about Tuesday, April 4th, 23 to 4 emails you sent to our planning and zoning department, requesting information about citizen of Camden County, and their zoning and licensing status were forwarded me for review.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Under the anti-commoderring doctrine, Camden County was the first county in Missouri and possibly the country to pass an ordinance prohibiting any county employee from assisting your unconstitutional agency in violating the rights of our citizens, God-given, constitutionally protected right to keep him bear arms. As well, Missouri passed the Second Amendment Preservation Act, having a $50,000 penalty for assisting the federal government in the enforcement of unconstitutional firearms infringements. Therefore, I can steer any attempt to receive information about our citizens pertaining to firearms as an attempt to coerce our employees to break Missouri law. You may consider this letter as a response to your probe, signed by the Commission and the other three individuals. Wow. Any pushback so far? Haven't heard a thing. Interviews on radio and newspaper, KCUR, I believe, out of Kansas City, got a statement from the ATF,
Starting point is 01:18:21 and they allege that they are just routine trying to find information so that they can give people an FFL license. Oh. Yeah. Okay. So now we're getting a license. And as I stated earlier, that is 100% not true because these people have been in business for a long time. Unbelievable. Yeah, we're just working ahead.
Starting point is 01:18:46 We're just working ahead. We want to make sure everybody gets their license. What a crock. Mike, thanks so much for standing. I hope that the courage like you have in Camden County spreads from your county to other places. And, you know, you'd expect it in Texas, but apparently not. Well, you know, Missouri had opening carry before Texas did. So you might want to check out Missouri a little bit.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Yeah, I know. I know. All right. I appreciate that stable. I'm quick. you know, I know a lot of focuses on national level, but right here at the local level, these are where things can be affected. I know.
Starting point is 01:19:27 I think that you're so hamstrung up at the federal level, nothing's going to get accomplished up there. It's people standing up down here at this local level, and the people of Camden County appreciate that they have somebody in office that will stand up for their rights, interpose on their behalf against the federal government. Thank you so much, Mike. I appreciate it. God bless you.
Starting point is 01:19:45 You know, he's absolutely. right on this and the first time that the federal government tried to send what now we call FEMA federal help down to a county after a flood. I think it was here in Texas. They were met the trucks with help were met at the state road into the town by armed citizenry who needed help. And they stopped the trucks and said, turn them around. We're fine here. We don't. We don't want your help and the people took care of themselves and they ended up being a lot better off than if they would have taken that federal aid you have the right in your own county to stand up and say we're not doing these things if they're unconstitutional we're not why
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Starting point is 01:24:17 I've watched and read him for years. He is now talking about the now nine Biden family members that they, Treasury Department was watching and yet no action on any of this. It's crazy. We'll try to get into that if we have time next hour. Also, if you know who Cash Patel is, he is the former Department of Defense Chief of Staff, the former deputy director of national intelligence. And I would really like to get his opinion. I read his words, what, yesterday, but I think his opinion really needs to be heard and probed. When it comes to these, this hack, that apparently this Air Force low, low level 21-year-old seem to be able to get his hands on all of these
Starting point is 01:25:11 top secret things. The people I know say, that's not possible. Well, they haven't been in the military for a while. But Cash was there as Deputy Director. of national intelligence. So maybe he can shed some light on the system because if somebody 21 years old can get in there with really low-level clearance and get some of the highest order stuff just by searching around,
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Starting point is 01:27:48 program. So this whole leak thing still really bothers me. On several levels, first of all, the media and how they helped find this guy, how they immediately you know, make him into the bad guy and telling us what he did, without telling us how he did it.
Starting point is 01:28:16 There's obviously a problem with our top secret infrastructure. I mean, Hillary Clinton was doing it, but I understand she's the Secretary of State, so she had that access. This guy doesn't have this access. And far as I know, he has never been in Joe Biden's garage, or, Donald Trump's closet. So how did he get access to these? Nobody in the press seems to want to ask that question, and my feeling is because there's not a good answer that they want to hear. Right now, the Biden administration is looking to take away more of our rights
Starting point is 01:28:52 and spy on us even more than they already do. Well, no, I'm sorry, you're not coming for my rights when this is your fault. What is the flaw in the system that, if it's true, allowed this guy to access all of these secret documents and get them out? Where's the flaw? Why aren't we talking about fixing that? Cash Patel was the deputy director of defense, sorry, of national intelligence, and he was former Department of Defense Chief of Staff. He can maybe shed some light. We go to him in 60 seconds.
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Starting point is 01:29:55 Has it ever happened before? Yeah, it has. And it means generally a haircut of everything you have, of about 40%. I think this time, because it'll be redistribution of wealth, it could be heavier for some, and you know, you might get 120
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Starting point is 01:31:12 Yeah, it's good to have you. This story has bothered me and some of my friends who have been in the military and have had, you know, top secret clearance. They say what the media is reporting is just not possible. Do you agree with that? Yeah, I wrote an extensive piece on it. Just that, and I think it was published in Breitbart, and then the year post picked it up. But a former deputy director of National Intelligence and the guy who did the presidential daily briefing for the commander-in-chief have an idea of how this type of access works.
Starting point is 01:31:51 And you've covered it. 21-year-old National Guardsman, even if you have a top secret SCI clearance, doesn't mean you have a need to know. He certainly did not have a need to know to access. under the law, this type of intelligence about war planning operations, military movement, and the Saudi intelligence. It's some of our most closely kept and guarded secrets, as it should be. So he did not, and I don't believe for one second, he has acted alone. And I think the fact is that the New York Times and the Washington Post were the first ones
Starting point is 01:32:21 to break the story and investigation before the FBI, the same guys that did Russiagate, and I'm maybe biased because that was a guy that ran the Russia game investigation and exposed it all. but this doesn't happen by coincidence. Somebody is covering up their tracks and somebody is looking for a scapegoat because the underlying crux of information shows that the current commander in Chief Joe Biden and his administration have been lying to the world about the failure of our $115 billion in the Ukraine. Okay, so there's two subjects here.
Starting point is 01:32:51 I want to talk about the leaks and what they tell you, but I want to stay first on how did this information, I want to make sure I understand and the audience understand, stands, you can have a top secret clearance and you can log on to whatever that internet thing is called. What is it called? Yeah, J-WIC system. Yeah, J-WIC system. You can log on a J-WIC, but you have to specifically know what you're, it's not like it's just
Starting point is 01:33:20 piles of documents sitting there. You have to know what you're looking for and you have to go through other portals to be able to get this stuff, correct? Yeah, think of it this way. I think of it as a giant mansion that has multiple bedrooms that are locked with the goods and households, products of whoever lives there. Just because you have the key to the front gate with your top secret SCI clearance doesn't mean you have the keys in the code to every single room and bank vault in that glorious
Starting point is 01:33:49 mansion. Classified information works the same way. There are literally millions of federal employees who have a top secret SCI clearance, but there are less than 0.5% of those employees who have the need to know. no compartmented code access to grant themselves access to this information because it's structured that way on purpose, whether you can log into a system or walk into the vault room with all the paper documents. You are not by law permitted in the entry room, in the foyer even, unless you have been granted that need to know. And a 21-year-old international guardman doesn't have a need to
Starting point is 01:34:23 know of this kind of information. So my researchers said their gut said to them, somebody else that has access to these documents, either sent them to him or whatever, got them to him, and he's just a front guy. Yeah, that's what I wrote. That's what I specifically came out and said before the sooner of the story was breaking and people were screaming out. I mean, I said, listen, it's not about politics, Democrat, Republican. This guy has had this documentation and putting it out for six months.
Starting point is 01:34:55 That's a campaign. That's not one page printed off and stolen off a printer and said, oh, here you go. here's one piece of intelligence. There's hundreds of documents. We don't even know the extent of it. And you can't access over a continued period of time as a 21-year-old Air National Guardsman in Cape Cod. It just doesn't work that way.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Somebody, either at DOD or the intelligence community, either wanted this information out or he found someone who was, wanted the information out like he did and helped him with that process and access. Look, if I'm wrong, I kind of actually hope I'm wrong, Glenn, and here's why. because if I'm wrong, the other truth is even scarier that our classification system is so broken and so destroyed that a rookie can walk in and go harness our nuclear secrets. That's what happens if I'm wrong. And it's not about me being right or wrong.
Starting point is 01:35:46 It's the alternative. It's so much worse. Well, that's what, you know, that's one of the things I keep coming back to. We should be talking about this because this guy either had somebody on the inside, or you're right, it's so porous that any of the millions of you, as you say, that have that top secret clearance can go in and get anything. And Americans need to know, not Republicans, not Democrats, this is all of us. Yeah. No, you're absolutely right. And that's what's so striking about this. And it's why it's riddled with analogies to Julian Assange. And whatever your political
Starting point is 01:36:26 orientation is you can't, I might be in the minority in this, but I don't justify this kind of behavior because it exposes ways fought in corruption. There's a way to go about it, and this is not it. And so for those politically are cheering this action because of the end result, that's not how the United States of America works, because there's going to be a hundred guys behind them that do this if you permit this sort of justified disclosure of intelligence. And I disagree with that wholeheartedly. Okay. So now let's try to figure out, is there a pattern? in the leaks because they seem to be kind of all over the board. Some of them seemed to be something that could have helped us with some of our,
Starting point is 01:37:06 you know, frenemies. You know, there was only really, the only one that I saw that I thought was really damaging was the one that we have a spy at the, you know, in the Kremlin. That's not good for the health of that spy. Who did this help? what side did this help i i think it was um a combination of things and what i mean by that is that you saw sort of a shotgun disclosure because the ultimate goal of what they wanted to disclose in my opinion based on what's out there is the information regarding the ukraine conflict
Starting point is 01:37:43 and the other disclosers were put out there to sort of have lines of effort to say wait let's throw some people off our tracks that's another reason why i don't think this was done alone this wasn't just some kid who's like, ah, I'm just going to throw up a bunch of pieces of paper in the air. Whatever you guys grab in this chat room, we can talk about. No, no. It's very specifically done. And it was done with other people assisting him to do it, like the folks in the chat rooms, who might also be government employees. I don't know who any of these people are, but apparently the New York Times and the Washington Post do. And maybe they want to go talk to them, at least the FBI, and figure it out. But it was done in this fashion. It's kind of going back to Assange.
Starting point is 01:38:21 He did it in a more streamlined fashion because he did it. He said he had a revolving door of information to put out. This may be the scenario here. This was just sort of the first shot. Does he have other conspirators who have more information out there? We don't know that answer yet, neither does the FBI. So does it appear to be the information that you have seen, does it appear to be a message that your government is lying to you
Starting point is 01:38:48 and you have no idea what's going on in Ukraine? Or that to me. Yeah. That's a central message to me. And you have to look at the characters that are involved. Chairman Millie, who used to work for me when I was chief staff at DOD, has become the most political operative in Washington, D.C. And that's saying something when as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, by law, you are forbidden to enter politics. Wow. And he was the guy that said, hey, I'm going to call my Chinese counterpartist during the Trump administration. We are going to come after you. He is, one, broken the law by entering the operating. chain of command. Two, the thing he wanted to achieve was a relationship with the incoming Biden administration because he wanted to keep his job. I think you're going to see down the road people in senior DOD positions like that say, because it's going to come to a head. Either Joe Biden lied to the
Starting point is 01:39:39 world about the Ukraine and its status or he was lied to about the intelligence about the Ukraine and said we were succeeding. The other piece is members of Congress where the gang of eight informed about the underlying intelligence. If that's accurate, then Congress also lied to America while saying the Ukrainian effort was a win, well, we were winning. And I think when you enter that fray and sort of have government officials target each other, somebody's trying to cover their own rear end, and we're going to find out when it shakes out. And I remember, Chairman Millie's leadership role is up in three months. He's out. He's gone. And he's been no stranger to talk to media while in that seat and especially when he leaves that seat.
Starting point is 01:40:21 So I would say stay tuned, but it's a very suspicious line of effort. When you look at the information about the Ukraine, the war in Ukraine, describe it in relatable terms of people who are not really following it. They just know, you know, we're there, we're doing stuff. it looks like it could get dangerous. How bad is it? We're doing everything but going to actually declare war. When you spend $115 billion in less than a year, what you have to do is arm, man, training, equipped. What that means is it's cute by a half. We don't have, quote, unquote, conventional American soldiers on the ground. That may be mostly true, but we have contractors,
Starting point is 01:41:12 former United States military operatives on the ground, training them on tanks, training them on weapons systems, training them how to shoot, training them how to defend their positions, et cetera, because they can't do it alone. That all costs money. But the problem with the Ukraine is it's going to be the modern gay Afghanistan. They don't have an international banking system to access. So we have to give them literally pallets of cash. And we know how that's gone in the past. And we have no idea of where this money is going. And this is problematic for many reasons, but the most is the following. In a year, we are going to have conventional American forces on the ground in the Ukraine and we're going to be back into Afghanistan situation because everyone in
Starting point is 01:41:49 Congress for most of them is bending the need of the defense industrial complex, which is the most corrupt organization in Washington, D.C. Wow, that's saying something. All right, hang on just a second. I need to take a one minute break. I've got a lot of follow-up questions on that. And I'd like to ask about the Nord Stream pipeline as well. All right. Sweet little testimony about Rough Greens from Lisa lives in New Mexico. She says, I have disability assist service dog. She is a precious English black lab. And I want to take the best care of her I can.
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Starting point is 01:42:46 It's good for you. You got to have your green. Oh, shut up. Anyway, naturopathic doctor Dennis Black invented the solution to put all of the vitamins, minerals, and probiotics and antioxidants back into your dog's food to make it healthy and make him healthy and happy. They have a special deal right now. You can go to roughgreens.com slash back.
Starting point is 01:43:08 Roughgreens.com slash back and get your first bag free. All you pay for is shipping. Roughgreens. slash Beck or call 833, Glenn 33. That's 833, GLEANN-33, Roughgreens.com slash Beck. 10 seconds, station ID. So, Cash, you said just a minute ago, in a year, troops will be on the ground. Can you expand on that? Yeah. So what's called operational preparation in the environment. And when you drop 115 billion into a theater of war, which is what the Ukraine is, regardless of your position, you are doing absolutely everything in your power to encroach upon a war
Starting point is 01:43:57 and obtaining the political headline of saying, we don't have boots on the ground. You don't take it that far unless you are going to put and commit boots on the ground because the defense industrial complex is in charge of those decisions. Why do you think so many Democrats and Republicans are banding together because the defense industrial complex spends more money and gets more of our taxpayer dollar than any entity on earth? And when you have, invest that much capital into the Ukraine, the very next political forcing point is going to be, we've already come 99% of the way, we now must commit troops. Now, it might come in the force of U.S. troops in a U.N. style program, but to me, there's no difference. Once we're there, we're there.
Starting point is 01:44:39 We only have contractors there, and those are former military guys. And the Ukrainians, it's not like they're going to know what to do with our equipment a year from now or 10 years from now. And that's not on them. It's just because it's our equipment. Right. Are we going to leave it there? You know, well, we did in Afghanistan. Well, yeah. You know, you said we're shipping pallets of cash.
Starting point is 01:45:01 That is so insane. I don't know if anybody remembers this, but in World War II, because we had to drop cash off in Hawaii and in the Middle East, they had a different seal. You know, you have the little green seal with the, you know, E on it or whatever. It had a brown seal and a yellow. yellow seal. And that way, they could cut that money off if it wasn't just flooding the market. If they say, wait a minute, this has been stolen or whatever, they could track the dollars because they had those seals. I don't know why we don't do things like that. We could have made all of that money in Afghanistan worthless overnight. But that's why we don't. It's an intentional
Starting point is 01:45:45 decision. When Barack Obama flew pallets of cash to the terrorists in the mullahs in Iran, he did it without tracking devices and intelligence operations for a reason. He chose not to when we pulled out of Afghanistan or when we were dropping off money into Afghanistan only to watch their leadership, Karzai and company fly out of Afghanistan with our money in helicopters. They did it without any sort of capabilities attached to it that we could. And they're going to do the same thing here. I mean, this is why you don't have to believe me.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Why is it that you think no member of Congress or no member of this administration can tell you where this money is going? They can only say we don't have proof that it's not being abused. That's because you have no idea and aren't asking the questions and don't want to know the answer. It's going to be forced upon your feet like it was in Afghanistan. Because right now you can say, and the popular effort is we must, must, must fund Ukrainian war. And they're championing that political headline for the time being. It will evaporate.
Starting point is 01:46:41 I have just about 90 seconds left. Any thoughts on Nord Stream? Do you think we blew that up? If Joe Biden blew up Nord Stream and didn't know how to do it without keeping it quiet, it just goes to show you why I have been saying he doesn't have a grasp on the national security apparatus of this country. Do we have the capabilities to it? Yeah, sure, probably.
Starting point is 01:47:01 But did we do it? Honestly, I hope not. I honestly think the Russians did it and they're just using it as propaganda because it's an easy win for them. We shut it down in the Trump administration. They turned it back on and the Biden administration realized how explosively consequential it was to us and our allies to allow that to happen. And now Russia, they're smart. They're not dumb.
Starting point is 01:47:21 They can go down there, turn that thing off, blow it up and say, look at what America did. We need a rallying call for the Ukraine. And they got one. All right. Cash, I like that answer much more than the answer I keep coming to, which is, I think we did it. So I'm going to go with your answer. Thanks so much for talking to me, Cash. Cash Patel.
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Starting point is 01:50:52 agencies are being weaponized against the American people and make sure you tune in tonight. At 8 p.m. Central on Blaze TV, get all of the information about Waco, the FBI, weaponization of our government. It's out of control at glenbeck.com. and blazedtv.com slash glen use the promo code glen to get a discount so one of the guys who has been doing the real work not the partisan work but the real work um on covid is uh senator roger marshall from kansas he has just released what i think is a shocking report um because this is again not partisan. This is, they went to the real experts and went through 50,000 documents to try to find out what happened. And, uh, Senator Marshall is on with us now. Hi, Senator. Gwynne, yeah, good morning
Starting point is 01:51:49 to you and your, your listeners, but that you're spot on that the preponderance of evidence shows that there were two lab leaks, unintentional lab leaks in Wuhan, China. The first one around September of 2019, they were able to contain that. But then when they were doing facts, seen research is when the bigger leak occurred. And by the way, a significant amount of evidence shows that that virus was most likely made in the laboratory in Wuhan, China as well. So why it's weird that nobody seems to be really reporting on this. This isn't a big deal.
Starting point is 01:52:23 After everything that we have gone through as a society and all of the shoutdowns, this is the exact opposite of what the government was saying. And now it looks really pretty clear. And it's amazing. For anybody who watches Blaze TV in my Wednesday night show, two years ago, when we outlined this, I showed you that in September there was something going on. We thought it was the first lab leak because they changed all the air handling systems and everything else. Right?
Starting point is 01:52:58 Yeah, yeah, Glenn, it is getting that preponderance of evidence. All the intelligence points towards September. 2019. Dr. Shee takes down the DNA lab bank. They put up road barricades around the laboratory. There's decreased cell phone use as well. All those things are happening. The epidemiology points towards a leak of some sort in September as well. But I think it's, you know, let's go back to why isn't the national media covering this? Look, I want to expose this because I don't want it to ever happen again. There's not a listener you have that was not impacted by this virus one way or the other. My grandson missed kindergarten because of this.
Starting point is 01:53:38 I have a son with long COVID. Many of us lost loved ones. We want to do everything we can to figure out the truth. So it doesn't happen again. And by the way, China's had three years to come forward and tell us that they could just prove this if they wanted to. They would have the evidence to show, ha ha, here's the progenitor species. Here's the intermediate species. Here's the DNA lab bank.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Take a look at it. But if they show us this DNA lab bank that you're talking about, we would keep. the cousin, the father, the brothers of COVID-19 right there. They were doing this research with American dollars. Across the world, they were gathering viruses from bat caves. They were taking them back to laboratories in Wuhan, biosecurity level two and three laboratories and taking spikes off of one of them and putting them on the original SARS backbone.
Starting point is 01:54:26 I mean, this is mad scientist stuff. It's scary. I can't believe they would be doing it in that type of biocontainment situation. And eco-health was involved, right? They were the ones that took our money and were involved in all of this, correct? Right. Yeah, so EcoHealth is one of the, I call the Mafia Godfather that were involved with viral gain of function research.
Starting point is 01:54:48 For the 20 years prior to this leak, EcoHealth obtained over $150 million of American taxpayer dollars, and we're doing viral gain of function research. And by the way, it was from 10 different government agencies. So Patsu wasn't just Manning. He had a $6 billion purse that he was allocating, but he was able to leverage that with other departments in the government, as well as money from the Gates Foundation, the Clinton Foundation as well. But they're in the middle of this. They have a huge responsibility.
Starting point is 01:55:17 And by the way, they had no boots on the ground in Wuhan, China. Nobody was there mining the store. We were just shelling out money. EcoHealth is simply a wholesaler taking American taxpayer money, and they're still on the lamp. So we're pretty upset that that's not been stopped. And this is, they're still doing gain of function research in Wuhan. Somebody I know told me that the research that they're working on right now, it makes this look like child's play.
Starting point is 01:55:44 Well, unfortunately, that's true. So China themselves says that they feel bioterrorism is a threat to them. So just like they respond into nuclear threats, they're going to respond to bioterrorism threats by developing countermeasures, vaccines, and aggressive majors. But I have, we have good evidence. to show that they're working with things like Ebola, MERS as well, things that have mortality rates of 30%.
Starting point is 01:56:09 You know, SARS-CoB-2 had a mortality rate probably of 1 or 2% when it's all set and done. But these other viruses have a 30% chance that you're dying if you catch it. So they're absolutely invested in bioterrorism research and what your listeners need to understand. In these labs in Wuhan, there's multiple labs. There's multiple people that work for the military, scientists that work for the military that are engaged with President Xi,
Starting point is 01:56:34 co-mingling with American taxpayer dollars. And all these things could be used for good, but then there's a huge downside, just like, again, like nuclear energy can be used for good or you can build bombs. The problem is these bombs are exponentially more powerful and more easily accessible to terrorists. So this is really troubling and concerning that if Fauci is not being held responsible, EcoHealth isn't being held responsible. They're still doing these kinds of things. Fauci's not, but he was before he left.
Starting point is 01:57:07 He's still doing these things with the same people. Is anyone here going to be held responsible? Well, that's exactly what we need to do. And this is why I believe we need a 9-11-style commission. Get this out of the bright lights of Washington. Let the facts be what they may. Let's get people that are not politically motivated to go through this. We don't want this to ever happen again.
Starting point is 01:57:32 And I'm certainly respect what we're doing on the House side. Brad Winstrum, a physician is over there working hard on a COVID-origin type of investigation. And Comer's got his stuff and Jordan's got his stuff going on. We're visiting with them, sharing information. Of course, America gave the Democrats the gavel in the Senate so we cannot leak the charge over here. The majority determines what those hearings look like. it's amazing Senator thank you for all of your hard work
Starting point is 01:58:02 I know you are one of the good guys that is actually trying not to play a game with it but actually get to the bottom of it and I'm glad that there's a few people up on the hill like you thank you you're welcome Lynn it's great I appreciate the boys at an opportunity to speak with you and your audience
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Starting point is 02:00:18 other on our onuch on oner. Welcome to the Glennbeck
Starting point is 02:00:28 program. One thing we haven't talked about yet, and I'd like to get Bill O'Reilly
Starting point is 02:00:32 thoughts on this maybe tomorrow is the settlement with Fox they have settled for
Starting point is 02:00:41 almost a billion dollars, three quarters of a billion dollars. that is really going to hurt. I don't know if we know this anymore, but that's a lot of money.
Starting point is 02:00:51 You know, when you're talking about the government, not necessarily so. When you're talking about a company, three quarters of a billion dollars is going to make an impact on Fox, but it is better than losing the case. That would have been much worse.
Starting point is 02:01:06 Yeah, I mean, I think there's something to take from that. I think for the whole media, by the way, including people on the left, who are cheering this on every step of the way, and this would have been very bad.
Starting point is 02:01:14 for I think media organizations generally. You don't think that there's a lot of text from Joy Reed about the stuff that she's saying on the air. I don't think you want that out in the public. And of course, while this wasn't a legal win for this case, I think there was a big incentive now for people to come out and try to take down media organizations they don't like. And I don't think that's a positive. you can question whether Fox handled all of that stuff right. I mean, you can certainly find quotes that you don't like. Their defense that I guess, and maybe you can help me out on this,
Starting point is 02:01:54 they were not allowed to use. Their defense would be, we question things. The president of the United States is saying this is true. That's a pretty big reason to cover it. and we didn't know at the time. We didn't necessarily believe it, but, you know, we're covering what the president is saying. Right. And they have texts saying they didn't believe it off the air.
Starting point is 02:02:21 And they're contrasting that to mostly comments where they, like there's a couple hosts like Lou Dobbs, for example, who seem to legitimately believe all of the stuff from Sidney Powell. But most of them were just, you know, they brought him on. I mean, Tucker Carlson was famously very skeptical of what Sidney Powell was saying. He said the same thing we said. we have her on. Really? Well, come back. When you're trying to show us evidence. I mean, you know, you keep saying these things. You keep, you keep guaranteeing you're going to produce this evidence and you're not doing it. Like, that's a problem. Come back when you have it. I think that's a totally fair standard.
Starting point is 02:02:55 But I mean, like what they seem to be requesting is a world, which everyone acts like, let's say, MSNBC acted on this. They said, okay, the president is claiming this. These are lies. This is the big lie. This is terrible. They're horrible people. Do you really want a news media that just makes judgments like that and tells you on now look you might think that all of those things were lies and you might think that all you know the election fraud stuff was BS but like even if you do do you really want the media to be prejudging those ideas and giving them putting them in a context like that all the time I don't think that's their job their job is to ask questions of people in the news and try to get down to the bottom of it but like if they're coming out and saying everything
Starting point is 02:03:37 we all know this is all lies that that's an opinion host that's what I want to want out of an opinion host. I don't want that out of a news journalist necessarily. I mean, I think that's a weird world that they're asking for. This isn't the journalists. This is the opinion. So you're walking into opinion places now. Much of this was. I mean, and Fox came out and ran news reports debunking a lot of the stuff, I would say, that Sidde Powell was saying at the time, or at least attempting to. And that was not a defense. They didn't allow that as a defense. They didn't allow it as a defense to just say, hey, look, the president of the United States is talking about this. It's obviously the biggest issue in the country. We should probably be discussing it.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Unless you came out with like visceral denunciation of what they were bringing to the table, you were vulnerable to this. And I don't know that that is a world. I mean, we see it with the topic we just talked about. They treated the COVID leak, lab leak theory the same way they treated the big lie about the election. They came out and they said it was a lie and they said you should never listen to these people and it's a conspiracy theory and it's terrible. And then that one wound up being like seemingly true. So like you do, do is there a lawsuit to be brought on that? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:04:51 I mean, I just think that like you need to have a really wide berth for the media to be able to discuss these stories. Even if they're wrong on them, you go back to the founding gland. You have documents in the, in the museum that talk about how, how extensive the allowance was for the media at the beginning. Oh, the founders discussed and argued back and forth that you could be knowingly lying. Yeah. Knowingly lying about the government. And the government has no place to say, you can't say that or you can't say this. Because sometimes the government might be lying.
Starting point is 02:05:32 Sometimes the government may not be lying. and you can't have the government be the arbitrator of it. It's got to work itself out. Yeah, so I just, you know, you should never be surprised by the way the media handles these things. Right. Like, but the fact that they cheered this on every step of the way to try to take down their opponent Fox News is really short-sighted. Oh, so short-sighted. Because this is not-
Starting point is 02:05:59 But they also know that Republicans, they're so... spineless. They're not going to do anything. They learn. We don't, but they learn. And I think, I think it's because we have too many spineless Republicans that agree with them that we just don't ever get it together. They're committed. And I, I think they're wrong. I think many of the things they're committed to is being used by real forces of evil. But they're committed. They don't, they don't stop. We just, oh, geez. Oh, okay. Well, we'll sit down. Yeah, I think that's true at some point. I think that, especially with, if you're talking about like the general collection of Republicans in Washington, we often do see that happen, of course. But, you know, I mean, you have seen examples of,
Starting point is 02:06:52 of just individuals on the right coming after the media and winning, I mean, Nicholas Sandman, you know, came out and won. Right. I would like to see what the Republicans are going to do with Diane Feinstein. Are they going to let her get a replacement for a while? Or say, no. She either shows up or she's gone. Yeah, she steps down completely or she's gone. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:13 They want, you know, she's obviously completely incompetent, but she wants to hold on this thing until she can come back. And they're saying, Republicans, you've got to make that exception. No. No, no. You don't have to do that. Don't do it. But let's see how the Republicans react.
Starting point is 02:07:31 the old Republicans would go, well, it's only the fair thing to do. No, it's not. No, it's not. Stop compromising your values and the ideals and ideas that created this country. We'll see you tonight. 9 o'clock, Blaze TV.

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