The Glenn Beck Program - Why MAGA Feels Betrayed over Epstein Files | Guest: John Solomon | 7/14/25

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

Glenn opens up the phones to get his listeners' true feelings regarding the Trump administration and the handling of the Epstein files. Why is demanding truth and transparency such a controversial thing? While some listeners believe the Trump administration is hiding something regarding the Epstein files, some are calling for trust in Trump and his reasoning for not releasing everything. Glenn issues a warning to his audience: We can disagree on the Epstein files, but we must stand united; otherwise, the Left will pounce on that weakness to further divide us. CEO and editor in chief of Just the News John Solomon joins to discuss the possibility of AG Pam Bondi charging John Brennan for his role in Russiagate. Solomon also gives his thoughts on the Epstein controversy and how the Trump administration can restore trust with the American people. As the list of things Glenn knows to be true continues to shrink, Glenn goes through the few hard truths that have remained consistent. Glenn and Jason outline how the release of Epstein's jail footage should have been handled. Glenn and Jason break down the recent update from President Trump regarding the Russia-Ukraine conflict.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Where are you on this Epstein thing? I'm in this strange place where I don't know what's going on. I don't have the evidence in front of me. I have common sense. I have my gut. And what I don't like is, told that suddenly I shouldn't care. That's my real problem.

I do care because I care about my country. I care about children. If we have people that have been, you know, raping children, I have a real problem with that. I don't think there could be any bigger problem than that. I don't have a horse in this race except for the truth. Now, maybe the truth is we don't have anything. Maybe that's the truth.

maybe the truth is Pam Bondi is so unbelievably incompetent on this issue that she's bungled it from the very beginning that there was no evidence sitting on her desk could I believe that? Yep and she just lied about it

and she said it's coming out tomorrow and then when it didn't come out then she was stuck what are you going to do? Well the FBI in New York is holding back on me well as I said that day why aren't you sending why aren't you sending a SWAT team to the FBI headquarters to arrest those people?

Well, she didn't, which would lead me to believe that wasn't true either. Then there never was any evidence. Well, then, wait, were you lying to me then? You're lying to me now. I don't know. And I think those questions have to be answered. But I don't know if we'll ever find the truth. Don't know. Where do you stand on this?

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Yeah, I am, you know, I don't. Do you think you know what happened? No. I mean, I think that you mentioned common sense. I mean, I think common sense is what's breaking a lot of people right now because we all know, you know, generally what happened. It's just now it feels like it'll never be proven. And that is the heart, I think, of the frustration and kind of the feeling of where do we go from here.

And it's not just this. It is, this is emblematic of everything we have gone through. And we thought we had finally a way to break all of that. And now it doesn't seem like we do. And I think at least that is. my real frustration. The number is 8 at 8-7-27-B-E-C-K. I just want you to vent. I want you to be able to say, because I have, man, I have everybody's opinion right in front of me. I could go through them. I got Charlie Kirk's opinion on this. I have Donald Trump's opinion on this.

I have Megan Kelly. You've heard my opinion, I'm sure, David Axelrod. Everybody has an opinion on this, but can I hear yours? 8-8-7-27-B-B-E-C-B-K, Byron in Colorado. Hello, Byron. Glenn, I just think that we need to, I mean, the only way that we're going to be able to heal is if all the evidence gets out to the people. They have to be transparent or else they're not going to trust anybody. The people are not going to trust anybody in the administration. They have to release all the evidence. What if they came out and said, we have released all of the evidence? No, they're still not going to believe them because there's still stuff that they told us they haven't released.

So that's the problem. They have to be transparent. If they're not transparent, nobody's going to believe them here on out. I mean, nobody's going to believe them. I happen to agree with you, Byron. Thank you so much. You know, I have to tell you,

I think it would be different for me if Donald Trump came out and said, look, we're releasing everything, except we've taken out all of the names, but we're releasing absolutely everything we have. We just want to make sure that we're protecting all of the victims. Just release it. And there's nothing to see here, gang.

There is nothing. And I understand your feeling. The attack that is being levied on really the supporters of Donald Trump is confusing to me. It only makes it works because Donald Trump knows his audience. He knows, he knows us. I've never seen anybody intuit a group of people. better than Donald Trump. And this is so unlike Donald Trump saying, nobody cares about this.

Nobody's talking about it. President Trump, everybody's talking about this. You were talking about this. You told us how important it was. And I understand that maybe there might not be any evidence. Okay. But the way this is being handled is just making things worse. Just making things worse.

and we have to have a resolution of this. You can't just say to your supporters, you people are all out of control. Wait a minute. We're just asking you, and you don't see how badly this has been bungled? I mean, let's just say there is nothing. Pam Bondi comes out and says,

it's sitting on my desk. Was it or not? Was that a lie or not? It's sitting on my desk. desk. Okay. Then the next day, well, I can't because they're hiding things, the FBI. Was that a lie? I have everything. We're just going through it. Then there is nothing. Which one is it? Which one is it? I just want somebody to recognize you're not crazy. You know what I mean?

And this is the first time I felt like my own side was calling me crazy. I don't know what to believe on any of it. I don't have a horse in this except for the truth and restoring trust. That's all I want. That's all I want. I just want the truth so I can have trust in members of my government. That's it. Because if we don't restore the trust, we've got nothing.

So my only horse in this race is just, look, if you made mistakes, great. If there was never any evidence, great. But please recognize that we're not crazy for reading it the way we've been reading it. You may have all the answers. That's not good enough for us. It's not good enough. Let me go to Christy in Texas. Hello, Christy.

I think as Christians who believe in a higher power and a higher law, we have to ask ourselves what personally, how we personally come at this. I don't know if you remember all the screaming that was done about moving the embassy to Jerusalem and how none of that panned out. I wonder how much of this is just spiritual warfare. I did listen to Scott Adams' take on this, which is very persuasive, and I'm just, I'm where you are in what I don't know what to think. What was his take? I miss Scott's. It was that we elected, that we have a Democratic representative government,

and that we elected him to make these difficult decisions based on information that we cannot have. But we need to trust him. I agree with that to some degree. You are our elected representative, and I've given him the benefit of the doubt on so much because of that. We elected him. That is his job. However, that's not what he's saying.

That's not what he's saying. if you want the trust because you can't know it because there are certain things in there for national security, that's different than what is being said. Am I wrong, Jason? I mean, that is, then you come out and say that. Look, there are some things that can't be revealed at this time due to national security. I can't give you any more than that. You're just going to have to trust me on that. okay, that's different than saying, what's wrong with you people?

Why aren't you just satisfied by me saying there's nothing there? Well, because you didn't say it at first. It wasn't you. My problem really isn't with you. My problem is with Pam Bondi. My problem is really with the FBI and Pam Bondi. Which one of, who bungled this? I think it's Pam, but who bungled this?

And if you can't at least admit the PR, rollout of this is leading to all of this stuff. It's leading to that. And I think it just needs to be vetted and solved one way or another. And you're not going to do it by telling people shut up and sit down. Isn't that what the left has done to us forever? Shut up and sit down. Nothing to see here. I don't want to believe this about our government. I don't want to believe that they're making excuses knowingly for people who are abusing girls? I don't want to believe that. So help me not believe it.

Help me. We go to Travis in South Dakota. Hello, Travis. Hi, Glenn. Hi, Jason. I tell you what, guys, I feel really betrayed and I feel really, really angry. We have a president who tells us to move on from Epstein because it doesn't matter. Are you guys still talking about this?

seriously. And yet he still talks about the 2020 election fraud. He talks about the Hunter Biden laptop. He talks about all this stuff from five, six years ago. And he tells us to move on from the Epstein trial or the Epstein case. People like me will not stop talking about this. I feel so betrayed and so angry. This is not what I voted for. If we do not stand up for the children of this country, we have nothing. We have absolutely nothing. And I tell you, what, I've also lost a lot of respect for a lot of people that are prominent figures in this country because they are saying, you know what, this doesn't matter. Like, Carrie Lake came out on Saturday. She's like, you know what? What really matters is election fraud and post-election

fraud. It's like, you know what? The children of this country really, really matter. How could we just sweep them under the rug and not care? Move on, America. Move on. Travis, thank you for calling. Let me ask you, is there anything that could be said that would make you go, okay, that's as good as it's going to get for here? I want transparency and I want justice. All of them, children, all those families, everything they went through, I don't want to know their names. I pray that God would be with them and give them some sort of peace if they could ever, ever get it. I want transparency and I want justice. Is there any of...

Is there anything that anyone could produce to show you and have you go, okay, Epstein is dead, Gladwell is in prison, and that's the only justice you're going to be able to get? I want evidence. Quit telling us that, you know, oh, well, he killed himself, and we saw everything. We have the information, by the way, it doesn't exist. Show us the information. Make me believe, help me believe that he killed himself. Help me believe that maybe you don't have any evidence against people.

Then show us that stuff. I do not trust the government at all, and yet they expect me to take their word for it. I'm sorry, you lost your credibility a long time ago, government. You need to start gaining the trust of these American people back. And I really hope and pray that they can at least provide some sort of evidence. How do you prove the negative, Travis? See, that's where I'm at. I think I'm right where you are.

I don't, I'm beyond, I don't have a horse in this race. What I have is common sense. And what I have is maybe a bunch of people hyping this up for a very long time. But then I need somebody to say, hey, these people were hyping this for this reason. And here, let me show you how that was done. I need, I need, I want to believe. I want to believe in the good. So help me, but I don't know how you prove a negative.

How do you prove there is no evidence? I absolutely agree. If all these people like me are all upset about this Epstein client list and it's all been for not all these years, then help me believe that, you know what? You've been wrong this entire time. And actually there's some really good things out there. And if it's the opposite, show us that evidence too. All right now, all we have to go on is the word and trust of the United States government. And they don't tell us anything.

So this is what we found in the documents we're going to give you are going to be, you know, mostly redacted. But the information is there. We just can't show it to you. You got to help us out a little bit. There's a lot of good in this country, but you've got to help us out a little bit. Travis, I don't think anyone could have said it better than that. Thank you. Appreciate it.

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This is frustrating, you know. For me, I can't see a world in which where these documents and this evidence doesn't exist still. The main reason being it's such an amazing weapon, against anyone you detest, I guess. It's this package of goods that could be weaponized for good, for evil, for whatever. And in my head, being a high-imperation voter and really paying attention, I listen to a lot of things that consume a lot of things, a lot of difference in opinion.

And I think this information is being used to further the Trump agenda. And if this information does exist, which is my true belief that these information does exist, is that essentially if Trump releases it in the beginning of his administration, he loses a point of leverage and that a lot of this stuff is going to roll out here the second half at the end of his administration where it's no longer useful to him

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and I don't like that at all. So I hope you're not right. I do feel like any of this kind of speculation is kind of like, you know what, you know what Chief Justice Roberts is doing with the Obamacare ruling. He's got a plan. Now, he really didn't. He even. just he just screwed it up. He just did what he wanted to do or what someone leaned on him to do. Again, I don't know the truth there. I hope that's not true, but I could see that happening. You know, somebody, we're gathering all kinds of information on everybody. It's way beyond what you think it is. The NSA is just gathering information nonstop on all of us, and it's only going to get worse. And I said to somebody, I don't even remember who it was at this point.

but I was talking to somebody offline and I said, how do we stop this? We got to stop this. How about if we elect Donald Trump? And he said to me, Glenn, no president is going to say no to this. No president. Because all of the other countries have all of this information on every American. England, everybody, they're gathering all of it because they can. So they're gathering all this information.

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But they briefed me and I'm satisfied with it. I'm satisfied with it. They should have had somebody in the building. That was a mistake. They should have had communications with the local police. They weren't tied in. And they should have been tied in. So there were mistakes made.

And that shouldn't have happened. And that building was a prime building in terms of what they were trying to do. But I was satisfied in terms of the bigger plot, the larger plot. I was satisfied. And, you know, I've great confidence in these people. I know the people, and they're very talented, very capable. They had a bad day, and I think they'll admit that. They had a rough day.

This is a very dangerous job being president. Okay. Do you accept that? Because I do. Do you accept that? He didn't say that, you know, the head of Secret Service, who is now gone, was completely cleared or anything else. just incompetent.

That's what he was saying. They had a really bad day. These are competent people who had a very, very bad day, made huge mistakes. Okay. If he said the same thing about Jeffrey Epstein, which he kind of is, look, there's nothing there, and I'm satisfied with what I see. There's nothing there. How can we accept one and not the other?

Because my gut tells me the same thing on this assassination attempt. How can you be this incompetent? But I accept that maybe that was all there was. It's very hard, very hard. But he accepts it, and his life was the one that was at stake, not mine. If anyone shouldn't accept that, it'd be him. And now he is. So what does that tell you?

Not about him, about us, about us. I accept that, even though my gut says, but I accepted. Is it just because his life is at stake on this one? Because he's saying the same thing about Jeffrey Epstein, isn't he? Look, I saw it. There's nothing there. Let's move on.

Why do we accept one and not the other? And is that right? Is that fair? Or is it just because his life is at stake? And so there's more gravitas to that decision. You know what I mean? Why would the president get involved in any of that? How could they possibly dupe him on that?

I don't think anybody's duping this president, but how would they possibly dupe him and make him say something like that? You know what I mean? Why would he? It's his life that is at stake. Is that the only difference? 888727BECK. Let me go to Billy in California.

Hello, Billy. Well, good morning, Glenn. I tell you what, you've got another California. who doesn't know where the hell to move anymore. Seriously. Texas or Florida? You know what? My niece lives in Texas, and she keeps telling me to come there, but I got a cousin right now

that's been flooded everywhere. She's gone in Texas trying to help rescue these kids, and we all talk, and then I watch President Trump. Two things. One, you ask, how do we prove a negative? Well, they already have. They've proved that we have a negative in D.C. Nobody. The people have no voice. Number two, how do we look at this? Well, Donald Trump, everybody says, you know, he's an actor. He's all on TV. He came from Hollywood. Well, he never was an actor. He's a terrible actor. He's a wonderful speaker, but he's a terrible actor. He can't lie worth of dittle. And when he stood and said what he said about the Secret Service, that was about him. So we can say,

You know what? What the hell? If he doesn't care that they just tried to kill him, we don't believe it. We saw the guy on the roof. We saw the guy with the gun. We have our own eyes. We, the people, aren't stupid. We've been driven apart by lies.

They have now proven a negative. We can't even trust the man that we fought so hard to put in office. And when he sat at that table with Pam Bondi, if anybody doesn't think that man was lying, they're crazy. Watch his body language. Watch. And then Pam Bondy, none of us who ever have gone through what we've gone through with our homes, trust that woman in Florida. She didn't do anything to help us. And as a matter of fact, you're going to love this.

I'm a member of the total of Roge television out of D.C. We've been to D.C. talking to Doge. We thought we finally got to the right place to get to President Trump and get things fixed. Right now, there is not a damn place in this country getting anything done for we, the people. and if you listen to Santos this week's interview with Tucker about the depravity, what is more depravity than what they've done to these children? We have a nation of mothers and fathers. We have a nation who are standing up in revolution right now,

whether they want to believe it or not, and we had the one man we thought we could follow. I'm a descendant of George Washington. That man is rolling in his grave right now with our founding fathers. This is not a moral country anymore. And we have a man at the helm that we thought was going to be a moral compass. Okay, those people out there, Democrats, liberals, whatever, laugh at me all you want. But we do believe that.

Millions believe that. And as Travis said, What Travis said rang to my heart because that's how we feel. Not only do we feel betrayed, but when you got a nation of moms and dads and dudes who raise kids and the kids are lying straight to your teeth and you know it, that's a problem. And I could go on a long time here, Glenn. But I'm here to tell you, I've had it. Nothing can fix this other than jail time.

I don't care if it's Pam Bondi who goes to jail. She was ahead and cold when all this crap was going on with Epstein before. Isn't she buddies with the New York attorney or AG somewhere that was handling this? There's too much commingling. This is worse than the wickers as far as incest goes in this country. We've got to clean this up. And I'm telling you, I'm with a team of thousands of whistleblowers across this country. We handed the ability to clean this country up to Doge, and you know what ruined at all?

You know why I say now everything is compromised? It's the damn attorneys. I'd like to know what attorney, if it wasn't Dushowitz, that got in Trump's here and said, Mr. President, you can't release this. This will take our whole injury down to the ground. Well, guess what, Glenn, it needs to be down to the ground because we need to rebuild from the Ashford. This is, I'm going to stop now because I am so riveted with what,

when we're told to shut up and sit down and like Travis said, he's still talking about the stolen election. Well, guess what? We thought we finally had somebody in office that we didn't have to worry about being lied to. All right. Think about it. Billy, I don't cut her off. Don't cut her off. Thank you, Billy, for your phone call.

I have several thoughts on what Billy just said. I think everything she said, what I heard. heard her say was you can't trust anything anymore. What I heard her say was we had one shot and now that shot is over. What I heard her say was burn it to the ground. Burning something down is really easy. It's really easy. And especially, you want to burn this down to the ground?

Simple. It's simple. at this point. Trust me, there are tons of people that will help you burn it to the ground. Coming back up from the ashes

is almost, if not, impossible. I hear you, Billy, and in many ways, well, in every way, I can relate, but I have to separate myself from

your feelings of burn it down to the ground. This is there couldn't be anything more dangerous. This is why I hope that we will find our way back to one another through this because we have to. If we separate ourselves, we're in trouble. This has not made me turn on MAGA.

This has not made me turn on the president. this has made me I feel exactly like Travis said. What he said that really connected with me was help me help you. Help me, believe. I want to believe. Help me believe.

And that's not happening. And it is the most critical thing. There are going to be things that have. that we don't like. There are going to be conclusions that you may not agree with. You may say, well, I don't think that's what actually happened. That is going to happen. Everything that we believe cannot be true.

The odds are against that. Just because we believe it doesn't make it true. We need the evidence. We need the evidence to show us one way or another. And then we need to have the guts to say, you know what, it goes against everything that I thought, but the truth is the truth. And I have to accept that. And that's what I got out of Travis. Help me believe. Help me. Because I don't want to be in this situation. I don't, you know, when Elon Musk and Donald Trump were fighting, I said at the time, I like both Elon and I like Donald Trump. I don't want to see them fight. we can't afford to pull ourselves apart. I'm doing everything I can to keep my principles, to make sure that I continue to tell you exactly what I feel

while not doing any more damage, while not, you know, I'm going to piss the president off no matter what I do. So it doesn't matter. But I'd rather not. I'd rather I am on his side because, I want him to be the guy. I need him to be. And by isolating him, there's no chance of that. By turning on him, there's no chance. There's a chance if we can help him hold the line. And on this particular case, convince him to help us understand. But I really, there are times. There are times. times I'm on the air and I know what I'm saying is not coming from me. There are times when I'm on the air and I know, stop.

When Billy was talking, I felt strongly worn. So maybe I've messed this up because I've put too many of my own words in between her call and what I have to say to you. Warning, do not go down that road. We are going to disagree on an awful lot. But this is the last chance we have. And there are people that are everywhere trying to separate us, trying to make, look at the left what they're doing with this. All of a sudden, you're for pedophilia?

You're for, okay, so I got it. You're for terrorism. You're for Hamas. You're for illegal aliens. you're for terror in the streets, and now you're also for Epstein? I mean, it couldn't be more clear. They are pushing to have us separate from one another.

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I think Pam Bondi is like every supervillain James Bond ever went after, you know, where they have him strapped to a table and they got a laser and it's going to cut his head off as soon as the bad guy goes away. Don't worry, Mr. Bond, this time. The laser will cut you in half, but I've got to go. That's Pam Bondi. It's like she's got somebody strapped to the table and she's got some elaborate plan, but we all know. Now he's going to get out of it. I'm not going to cut him in half. So I take it with a grain of salt, but it is some good news, I think, from John Solomon. We talk to him in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about Z Factor. I want to talk to you about something that can help you get to sleep. It's Z Factor. Do you have a hard time sleeping? You don't have to get

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I just look at the last time you were on with me was 2023, and I'm thinking we have got to have John Solomon on more than that. I would love it. Count me in any time you want. You're the best. Okay. So I saw this report and give me some hope. I so desperately want to believe, John, give me some hope.

Yeah, listen, this is a very real thing. The FBI has opened a predicated investigation. That's the mean that there's enough evidence to support a belief that crimes. occurred on what, viewing the last 10 years as an ongoing conspiracy, an ongoing conspiracy by the deep state and Democrats to protect Democrats from possible criminal prosecution, people like Hillary Clinton and Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, and to foist upon Donald Trump and his supporters investigations that weren't warranted by the evidence. And when you go through that, you can cycle through this and be again to put a very clear pattern and timeline.

Hillary Clinton gets let off on the email case, even though the FBI got new intelligence early, just a few weeks before James Comey cleared her that said that maybe she, there was a criminal matter. They ignore it. They clear her on the same day, they start working towards putting Donald Trump under the bogus Russia collusion investigation. Fast forward to 2020. There are three events that protect Democrats, the effort to call Hunter Biden's laptop disinformation, the impeachment scandal to make it look like Donald Trump had a Ukraine problem when it is Joe Biden.

And in August of 2020, the FBI gets an extraordinary piece of intelligence that China is trying to hijack the election by creating bogus mail-in ballots for Joe Biden. And they don't investigate it. They pull back and actually turn a blind eye to it. Then you go all the way down to 2022, the Jack Smith theft, Joe Biden, sicking the prosecutors on Donald Trump when he himself has a classified documents bomb. but instead they're going to project that on Donald Trump. And you can go all the way to 24, where Joe Biden's mental decline is covered up by the White House to try to influence the election.

Cash Patel's document or the FBI's document treats this as an ongoing conspiracy. Now, why is that important? It allows you to go back and charge events that are outside the statute of limitations. And you don't have to do this in D.C. Many of the overt acts occurred in Florida with the raid of President Trump's home. so you could potentially have a grand jury in a trial in Florida where the jury is probably more likely to consider the evidence fairly. Okay. I don't want to get my hopes up. Yeah.

I heard this in the ongoing conspiracy that is remarkable. That will take care of everything that we have. I mean, because nobody has been prosecuted for anything. And you just list a lot of really important possible crimes. And most of those are past the statute of limitations. But if they say this is an ongoing conspiracy, they can go all the way back past that statute of limitations and charge everybody. However, and the other good part is you could possibly do it in Florida. So if you're not doing it in Washington, D.C. or in New York, you have a chance of actually a fair trial.

but we have been let down over and over and over again. Oh, yeah. Many more times than we've ever been given a moment of relief and hope. I think this is going to turn on two very important events, and they'll have to happen soon in the next week or two. The first is will Pam Bondi appoint a special prosecutor and give them the full authority and resources you do? You can't do this at the FBI while you're also trying to stop criminals

and the counterintelligence threats. You've got to break this off. give a person who focuses on it full time the ability to do it and panel that grand jury and then treat this like a real investigation. The second is there are two pieces of evidence. It's remarkable given all the Russia Gate and other documents that we've gotten that these two highly classified documents have never been released. But they are the ignition point. They are the events that would help a jury understand the beginning and then the repetition of this pattern. in there is a set of documents and a classified annex and the inspector DOJ inspector general report about Hillary Clinton being let off in the email scandal that show that just before James Comey cleared her

intelligence came in that suggested there was a serious criminal matter and the FBI chose under James Comey not to investigate that. The Democrat gets off in the face of perhaps really damning evidence. The second piece is a document. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Do we know what that evidence? evidence was. Do we? We only have the description of Chuck Grassley in one letter. Chuck Grassley has spent eight years trying to get this information released, and I think he is about to succeed with President Trump. But basically it just says foreign intelligence came in that the FBI should have investigated and it didn't. And instead of just waved a magic wand and exonerated Hillary Clinton. We don't know more than that. It's highly classified. I believe it's at the top secret compartmentalized

level. So it's sensitive, but I think Chuck Grassy may have the president's attention, and this may happen. Now you know that maybe Hillary Clinton, there's another piece of evidence that we didn't know about that Hillary Clinton perhaps got off on when, in fact, she might have been prosecuted. That establishes Democrats getting off like Hunter Biden afterwards and all the other things happen. The flip side is a piece of evidence that John Durham, the special prosecutor, who tried to indict some people in D.C. but couldn't get him convicted. he writes in his final report about the Clinton plan intelligence. It's an intercept that the United States intelligence intercepted in July before,

before the FBI opened up the clearly corrupt crossfire hurricane investigation, an unwarranted investigation of Russia collusion. A couple of days before that, the U.S. intelligence community intercepts that Hillary Clinton has personally approved a plan to hang a Russian shingle on Donald Trump's campaign. has to basically concoct a scandal to make it look like Russia is trying to help Donald Trump win the election so that they can get by Hillary Clinton's own Russia problems. Remember Bill Clinton that takes the $500,000 speech fee from Russia and they got all the money for the foundation from Russian interest. So the government knows before it opens up on Donald Trump,

before it opens up on Donald Trump, that Hillary Clinton is concocting the very thing they're about to investigate and they go ahead and proceed with that. Now, we don't know what the intercept is specifically, but I think if we get that released, and John Durham clearly was begging for it to be released in his report, those two pieces give us the ignition of this recurring cycle, let Democrats off and pin down Republicans with bogus scandal. The FBI has both of those? They do.

They're both. Well, they're both, believe it or not, in classified annexes of reports. So the first one is in the possession of the Justice Department, Inspector. General. He got access to that intelligence, and that would be the easiest place to declassify it from. Pam Bondi and the president could do that. The second is in the John Durham report. He also created a classified annex to his report that has that explosive Clinton plan intelligence. So Pam Bondi and the president could do that. The FBI is well aware of this. It's part of the reason why the Cash Patel FBI opened up the conspiracy case. But unless you can share it with a grand

jury because it's declassified, you're going to keep the grandeurs in the dark and what may be two of the most explosive pieces of evidence we haven't had. What makes you believe, I'm really trying, I'm trying to keep hope alive here. What makes you believe that this will actually happen? Oh, listen, I'm a reporter. I start with a cynical look at everything. I don't know if it will happen. I do know that the events that I identify in the story have happened. Now, the investigative was opened about three months ago by the FBI. I have talked to some people who were consulted by the Justice Department. Would you consider being a special counsel or a deputy special counsel?

Now, remember, special counsels have to be Senate confirmed. So it would be better to have a U.S. attorney. And if you don't have a U.S. attorney, maybe you go and name someone who's a cabinet secretary, who's a former prosecutor. Lee Zeldon at EPA was a prosecutor earlier in his life. He's Senate confirmed. He was part of the team. that broke the Russia collusion delusion out in the public.

What if you named him and you just sped things up? Those are the things that have happened. Now, the only reason I'm going to believe it is if Donald Trump declassifies and Pam Bondi appoints a special counsel. We'll see if they do that. It won't take long. Listen, this is not rocket science. They could do this tomorrow if they chose to.

Do they have to do it before the statute of limitation runs out on people like Brennan? Well, a lot of the events on Brandon go back to 16, Comey go back to 16. But they would be wrapped into a conspiracy. You can bring them forward. There's plenty of events that have occurred in 2022, 23, and 24 that keep the statute alive for several years. The raid on Mar-a-Lago over the objections of the FBI. That could be an overt act. There's a very small window left on the China intelligence.

The China intelligence comes in in August. still about six or eight weeks out. If you open the investigation now, you might be able to toll the statute on that. But there are several events that occur between 2022 and 2024, the cover-up of Joe Biden's mental decline, that keep a long window for a special prosecutor to bring the whole kitchen in. This is basically a kitchen sink conspiracy case. But that's how you went after the mob back in the 80s and 90s with Rudy Giuliani. You can tie events together. There's several years of statute on some events that are part of the alleged conspiracy. So they'd have time to do this, but time's a ticking.

And it's up to President Trump and Pam Bondi. If they want to pursue what Cash Patel has started, just announce it this week. Get it going. Is there any reason you can think of that Donald Trump would not want to do this? I haven't talked to them yet. I'm going to try to interview them the next day or two if they'll allow me to, but I'd like to find out. Will you do classify it?

What do you think about it? At the end of the day, the president usually will keep a hands-off thing on the Justice Department. So it's going to come down to Pam Bondi, who's had a bumpy start to her tenure for sure. You think? But at the same time, you know, she is smart. She understands things. This could be a gift horse that just showed up at her door.

And if she runs with it, I think the American public will get an accounting that they've never gotten for and potentially accountability to some of these bad actors who had a spin cycle. It just kept going over and over again. Commit a crime, project the crime on the other guys. create a false scandal. They did that several times. Now is it time to unravel that create punishment so it doesn't happen again in the future. John, I got to stop for a break for 60 seconds. Can you hang for just 60 seconds? All right, back in just a minute with John Solomon from Just the News. Let me tell you about tunnel to towers. When a first responder or a member of

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10 seconds, station ID. John, I started the podcast earlier today with a phone call from somebody who I think really expressed what a lot of us are feeling about the Pambandi, you know, debacle here on Epstein. And he said, look, there's nothing more important than crimes against children. And all of our guts are saying, this is, there's something really wrong here. And now we're being told to shut up and sit down. And, and we're, and we're being told this without giving us, as he said, help me believe. I want to believe. Help me believe. What is your take on the Epstein thing and why it's, I mean, is it just Pam Bondi that has bungled this thing or what is it? Listen, the FBI turned over everything it has. There's no doubt about that. I've done reporting on that.

I think Pam Bondi simply raised the expectation of this maybe to have a Fox News moment or just to have one of those sort of excitement moments. and it wasn't well prepared. And so overstated what was there. And then they've been rolling backwards ever since. Now, I think there are two places that President Trump, Pam Bondi, and the American public could benefit by focusing on. We've focused on what the FBI got. But probably the most interesting evidence is still under seal in the grand jury in the Southern District of New York. Every time you see someone talking about this, those documents aren't mentioned.

I think that that's what people like the lawyers for Epstein were talking about Alan Dershowitz was talking about this the other day. I think that you look at the grand juries, and there are two grand juries. There's one in the state of Florida, and then there's one in Southern District of New York. State of Florida is out of Pambandhi's control now, though it would have been under control back then. Get that information out. Get the information at the Southern District of New York. create a Vaughn index of all the documents that the people see what's been released, what's not being released, the reason it isn't being released,

you'd have a moment of transparency that would reboot the confidence of the American people to trust going forward. The second place to look is that it is clear that Jeffrey Epstein had some interactions with United States intelligence. I don't not believe he was an asset. He wasn't a knock. He wasn't a controlled source for the CIA. But at various times, he would have had interactions.

with the CIA and the people around the CIA by Jeffrey Epstein's own admission in a interview he did several years ago before his death, he admitted that he was working with a Saudi Arabian businessman named Khashoggi back in the 1980s when Khashoggi was the main man for the Iran contra transactions between the Reagan administration Iran and the contra rebels. It's impossible that Jeffrey Epstein with that level of relationship didn't run into the CIA and most likely ran into the CIA, excuse me, again, a few times. And my sources tell me there's a few other interactions. Let's get that out too.

He's dead. There's no reason to hide this information. So Florida Grand Jury, Southern District, New York grand jury, unsealed, and whatever the CIA has on Epstein, I think that would give a great accountability. It would get Bam Bondi, Donald Trump, and the FBI focused on other bigger things than this. I don't think there's going to be a lot of surprises, but the lack of trust that they've created can be easily fixed with that. Thank you. Thank you.

That's why I had John on today. Thank you. You gave me hope on Friday. You gave me hope again today. Thank you, John. I love your show. Thanks, God. You got it.

Bye-bye. John Solomon, Just the News. If you don't follow his reports, you should. JustTheNews.com. JusttheNews.com. He's also on X. J. Solomon reports. You know, he worked for the New York Times and the Washington Post and the Wall

Street Journal. And he finally said enough is enough. left and he started his own thing because they wouldn't let him cover things and uh he does an outstanding job an outstanding job um that's what we should be asking for i wrote those things down though those are the things we should be asking for and i think we should also uh perhaps uh start to ask the president and pam bondi uh to open a grand jury on a grand conspiracy um they'll know exactly what we're talking about. And the FBI has done all

the groundwork. Now it's just up to Pam Bondi and the president to allow those two documents to be unsealed or to be declassified. When it comes to EBCN, unseal the documents in the courts. And I don't

need to know everybody's name. You can redact all of the names. You know, when it comes to the, you know, anybody who is a possible victim, it stacks out their name. I have no problem with that. I don't think anybody wants to know that. We just need help us help you. Please. Help us help you. Because there is a real lack of trust. And if we don't repair this, the Republic is once again at stake as much and if not worse than it was before. Because

we're now taking all of the people who believe in the country and we're dividing them even more. We can't continue to divide. All right, back in just a minute. This is Glenn Beck. Right now there are families in Israel who are living in fear, not just because of what might happen, because of what has happened. Homes have been destroyed, loved ones have been lost, entire communities have been torn apart by war and terror,

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Check out glenbeck.com today. Welcome to the Glennbeck program. You know, for years I have been doing this work, covering stories, asking questions, watching how people respond when you ask those questions. And also noticing how people respond when the narrative doesn't go their way. And I have done this with hubris. I have done this sometimes with comedy. I have rarely done it the way I should have done it the whole time, and that is with real humility.

And as I get older, I realize there's only one thing I truly know. And the only thing I'm truly certain of is I'm not certain of anything. And that is troubling because it means, wait, I may not ever get the answer. And I'm probably not going to get the answer that I like. And it's my job to dig in, to analyze, and to explain. And more and more, I find myself in a place to where I can't explain.

I can explain things in a way that makes sense to me, makes sense to you, but doesn't necessarily mean it's true. We are living in a very fragile world right now. Certainty has never been a reliable guide, not in a world that is this contradictory, this fragile, this complex. But I know if we are going to survive not just as a country, but as a species, we have to question. And that is one of the things that really scares me about AI is, I'm afraid it's going to stop us from questioning. We will just ask it.

It will give us one answer and we'll go, yep, that's the truth. Questioning fearlessly, honestly, that's hard. Yes, it means questioning power. Yes. And for the first time in my life in the last 10 years, I see what questioning power does.

Questioning institutions. Yes, narratives, experts, yes. But the most important thing, that we can question because it's the only thing we actually have control of is questioning ourselves and what we believe. And there is nothing harder than that. And that's why I would ask that you keep an open mind on everything. Don't become wishy-washy. It doesn't mean to become well, well, I don't really know. It could be anything. Could be, could be that that's a woman. Could be that that's a man. No, no, you don't have to be wishy-washy. And you have to question your

own beliefs. And that doesn't mean that you don't stand fast. It makes your belief stronger if you throw honest questions at it all the time. Because it will burn away any of the little imperfections or little things that you kind of, a lot of people, when there's a nagging doubt on something, they just dismiss it. And that just makes it. And that just makes, their ideology stronger, but their argument weaker. When you start looking for confirmation and start looking for clarity, it will shake you. It will. It reshapes you.

And it may not change what you believe, but it certainly the hell changes the way and how you believe it. But it becomes yours. I don't know what the answers are on a lot. of things and I'm finding myself not knowing the answer on more and more every day. But I know that certain things are true. I know that God exists. I know that God is involved. I know that God is good. I know that God holds us accountable, not just the really bad guys that we see like, how come they're not being held accountable? Oh, they will be. They will be. But so will we. I know I know what we're asked to do.

I know that we're asked to be better than we were yesterday. And that doesn't mean more righteous, more of a zealot. That means better and perhaps less of a zealot. More righteous by being more humble. More righteous by being more understanding. I had somebody say something to me recently. That is one of the more hurtful things that has ever been said to me. and I am trying really hard to be a better person.

And I had a really hard time with dealing with it. And I said, I was on the phone and I said, I'm going to end the conversation right now. Thank you. Where maybe the old me would have argued. But I'm not going to argue lies. I'm not going to, I'm just not, I'm not. at least in that forum. And when I took the time, and I prayed about it,

I saw how that individual might see things and how they arrived at that. And what was going on perhaps in their life that made them feel that? And it was even harder because as I did that, I realized that person had not done that and given me the benefit of the doubt or given me the time at all in their life

to think about from my perspective. but that's not for me to worry about. It's not about presenting both sides of any argument. It's about seeking the truth, especially when it contradicts what you want to be true, or when it hurts. And, you know, one of the things that was so hurtful about what was said to me was,

it's not something I hadn't thought myself. it isn't something that any honest person, if you're really trying to be better, wouldn't go, well, wait a minute, is it this? And if you're really doing that and you're really tearing yourself apart in a good way and you're really trying to find answers, when the self-righteous walk in the door,

it's difficult because you've already accused yourself of that. and you've gone through all of that. As I don't want to be comforted by my truth or our truth. Because I don't want a warm blanket. I know what's coming. I know what we're going to have to stand against. And we all have to be just dirt strong. But that doesn't mean if we're going to be warriors in Christ and

for Christ, boy, that means being humble and kind. I guess everything we would hope an American soldier is in the end. The one who can fight and can fight to the death if they have to, but the one that really doesn't want to and the one who heals all the way along the way, their enemy. But if we turn to a warm blanket and we refuse to learn, if we refuse to question things, if we refuse to,

and in both ways, if we refuse to open up our mind, we have to have it our way. That is the day we stop growing. That is the day we stop thinking. And that is the day that we are at the end of our nation. And, you know, I've seen, like the New York Times

backed off this Mamdani story a couple of weeks ago. And they were like, He's not a communist. And then somebody dared to write in the New York Times. Well, actually, he is saying a lot of, and the people went nuts. The readers went out of their mind, nuts. Well, you know what?

The truth is going to set you free. It's going to make you miserable at first, but it will eventually set you free. Facts upset people. You can't soften the truth. Oh, it's going to upset people. Yeah, it is going to upset people. Some people might be triggered. If you use the word trigger, that's a trigger.

compassion matters sensitivity matters but truth raw unsettling sometimes deeply inconvenient is what we do for a living journalism that's what it's about it's not here to soothe it is here to seek and that's not just journalism aren't isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing we're all supposed to be seeking the truth. I said earlier today, I'm having a really hard time because I'm trying to, everybody's trying to divide us. I'm trying to tell you the truth without dividing. And that is really difficult. Because the minute you say, now wait a minute, oh, you're on the, you're with them. Oh, you just want to. No, no. I'm with the Republic. That's who I'm with. I'm with. I'm with common decency.

I'm with the Constitution. I'm with every founding principle that we all either believe in or should believe in. And that, unfortunately, is putting us all in a very uncomfortable and controversial place. But we have to get past ourselves and just seek the truth and ask the questions that are uncomfortable, not to stir the pot. But comfort is easy. Certainty is easy. and easy and certainty never changed anything for the better, ever. So no matter how you feel today, no matter what your opinion is today, do me one favor,

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Common sense ain't common anymore, is it? Time to wake up and wrangle the sheep. Glenn Beck continues next. You know, I think the one thing you could say about Supreme Court Justice Jackson Brown is that she's a thing. thinker. You know, she's a thinker. She just said at a luncheon in the Indianapolis Bar Association, quote, I didn't think I realized how formal the court really is. I thought when, you know, when the justice go into conference, they let their hair down a little bit. You didn't know how they wear black robes. I mean, I don't think it could get more formal than that. I mean, yeah, it's kind of a traditional thing they got going on. she's like there's a lot of there's a lot of tradition there

we speak in order seniority order we vote in seniority order we shake each other's hands every time it's a ritual that we do just before going out to the bench but also if we're having a conference day or before a conference every time we shake each other's hand

it's kind of interesting and neat but it's a formal institution yeah again I go back to the black robes that's kind of what caught my eye there, you know. They might be a little stickler on tradition. Might be just a little bit, you know, Jackson Brown. But it's neat.

Another thing that I think is sticks out. I don't, I'm not sure the rest of the justices use the word neat an awful lot. You know, unless that's how they're asking for their scotch, I'm guessing. but other than that, no, I don't think they're like, hey, you know, I was listening to that case today. I was kind of neat, you know, but it's good to have a real thinker on the court with the Supreme Court Justice Katanji Jackson Brown. So you got that going for us, America, on the right track at least there.

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And they are calling it a grand conspiracy. And the FBI has opened an investigation on this grand conspiracy. And the reason why grand conspiracy is so important is it knocks down all of the walls of, what do you call it? Statute of limitations. Because it's all part of a conspiracy. One leads to another, leads to another, leads to another, leads to another. So you can go back as far as you need to go. And so this scoops up everything from when Hillary Clinton was running and saying, oh, look at this Russian information that we've gotten.

And remember, it was blamed on a Republican. This was funded by a Republican. You remember that? It wasn't. It was funded by Hillary Clinton and her crew. And the FBI knew that. Then the FBI started getting information that showed. that Hillary was doing it intentionally to thwart Donald Trump and to protect her flank.

They did nothing about it. All this stuff happened. And all the way along, there were things that happened that they had intel on that the FBI dismissed. There are two documents in particular that John Solomon talked about last hour in the podcast that he made it very, very clear. if Donald Trump and Pam Bondi decide to declassify this, this whole thing is going to come undone, and you'll be able to have a court, a case in Florida, not in Washington, D.C.,

because it involves the Florida case of them going in and trying to take that document from Donald Trump while Joe Biden already had the same documents in his house, and it shows that, you know, again, it was a good. conspiracy to take Donald Trump down. That is really good news. Yeah, some of these things that just to kind of refresh the audience's mind, I'm sure a lot of people remember some of this stuff, but in the special counsel report

from John Durham, there are parts in that that were just completely classified that we couldn't hear about. And some things that sounded as crazy as, and this is a quote, this is one of the things that John Somm was hint talking about. It's called the quote, Clinton Plan Intelligence. This is talking about Russiagate, the things that they did not disclose, which we know are part of this classified tranche of information that we just don't know about. And the FBI apparently back then just dismissed it. Just dismissed it.

Why? Why do you suppose? This is why. This is deep state. Yeah, and that's why we need an overall grand conspiracy. We need to go into all these things. Because even, I mean, even if, you know, you could even mention parts of Donald Trump, the president over the weekend, said that this is, part of, you know, efforts by Democrats. He mentioned Hillary Clinton. He mentioned all these other

people. That's great. Maybe that's an actual signal that they're opening this up to something much, much larger. I hope so. Which would be great. Look, the thing that we, I started talking about, I opened up the phones and I got, did we pull that phone call from Trevor by any chance? I want you to listen to this phone call from Trevor because I asked the audience, how are you feeling today? What is it that is on your mind about this Epstein thing and how are you feeling? And how are you feeling and this I think this call says says everything at least everything I'm feeling listen we go to Travis in south Dakota hello Travis uh um hi Glenn hi jason um I tell you what guys I feel really betrayed and I feel really really angry um we have a president who tells us to move on from Epstein because it doesn't

matter are you guys still talking about this seriously and yet he still talks about the yet he still talks about the 2020 election fraud. He talks about the Hunter Biden laptop. He talks about all this stuff from five, six years ago. And he tells us to move on from the Epstein trial or the Epstein case. I, people like me will not stop talking about this. I feel so betrayed and so angry. This is not what I voted for. If we do not stand up for the children of this country, we have nothing. We have absolutely nothing. And I tell you what, I've also lost a lot of respect for a lot of people that are prominent figures in this country because they are saying, you know what, this doesn't matter. Like, Carrie Lake came out on Saturday.

She's like, you know what? What really matters is election fraud and post-election fraud. It's like, you know what? The children of this country really, really matter. How could we just sweep them under the rug and not care? Move on, America. Move on. Travis, thank you for calling.

Let me ask you, is there anything that could be said? that would make you go, okay, that's as good as it's going to get for here. I want transparency and I want justice. All of them, all of them, children, all those families, everything they went through, I don't want to know their names. I pray that God would be with them and give them some sort of peace if they could ever, ever get it. I want transparency and I want justice.

Is there anything that would, that anyone could produce to show you, and have you go, okay, Epstein is dead, Gladwell is in prison, and that's the only justice you're going to be able to get. I want evidence. Quit telling us that, you know, oh, well, he killed himself, and we saw everything. We have the information, by the way, it doesn't exist. Show us the information. Make me believe, help me believe that he killed himself.

Help me believe that maybe you don't have any evidence against people. then show us that stuff. I do not trust the government at all, and yet they expect me to take their word for it. I'm sorry, you lost your credibility a long time ago, government. You need to start gaining the trust of these American people back. And I really hope and pray that they can at least provide some sort of evidence. How do you prove the negative, Travis? See, that's where I'm at. I think I'm right where you are. I don't, I'm beyond, I don't have a horse in this race. What I have is common sense.

And what I have is maybe a bunch of people hyping this up for a very long time. But then I need somebody to say, hey, these people were hyping this for this reason. And here, let me show you how that was done. I need, I need, I want to believe. I want to believe in the good. So help me, but I don't know how you prove a negative. How do you prove there is no evidence? I absolutely agree.

If all these people like me are all upset about this Epstein client list and it's all been for not all these years, then help me believe that, you know what, you've been wrong this entire time and actually there's some really good things out there. And if it's the opposite, show us that evidence too. All right now, all we have to go on is the word and trust of the United States government. and they don't tell us anything. So this is what we... So that call happened earlier today.

That says everything right there. He was passionate. He sounded like he was on the verge of tears a couple of times. He's compassionate about the victims. But he's angry because he's been led to believe one thing. And now he doesn't. And the most important thing is I want to believe.

Show it to me. Help me. This is the first thing I said when the videotape came out. That's not helpful. I mean, it's a step in the right direction, but it's not helpful. And it seems to have been falling apart, even though, again, let's look at the videotape that came out. It's been edited.

Wired says it was edited. No, is that true? I'm not sure if it was edited as much as it was, it was pulled. put in an editing program. Now, what was changed? We don't know. We don't know. Maybe things were cleaned up so it was more visible.

Maybe it was edited. I don't know. And it seems to me that there could be a logical explanation on why it was transferred into a program that is commonly used to push things out. You put it in there. You get it. Make sure it's, you know, you make it. you make sure it looks right, et cetera, et cetera, and then you push it out.

Well, if you did that, you should have led with that. By the way, this went into Adobe. Here's why. Here's what we did. These are the only things we did. And here are the tail-tale markers on that. If you would have told us that first, all these problems would have gone away. But they're not, they're shooting themselves in their foot every single time.

I just want them to stop, you know, it's like Pam Bondi. Can you stop talking? Just stop talking. You're only making things worse. And then to be told, no, sit down, shut up, you shouldn't care about this. Well, maybe I shouldn't. Maybe you're right. But help me arrive there.

Don't just tell me that's where I should be. Help me arrive there. and I've never seen this from this president before. Never. Have you? No. And the only explanation that I can come up with on this is that they are just as disappointed as we are. Yes.

It's like that scene out of a few good men where Tom Cruise is so passionate talking to Demi Moore and he's like, it's not what we know. It's what we can prove. And at this point, what they have, this is Glenn, this is almost. to what a 15 year old case. Yes. We don't know how many people have touched all this information. We don't know how many people might have altered the information. We don't know if they did that or not.

We have no clue. So now it's like what we have is common sense. We know there is more to the story, but we don't have all the information. My best case scenario is this is they are in the exact same boat as we are. And they're trying to figure it out and manage. The chain of custody alone is a mess. Oh my gosh. can you believe anything with just the chain of custody.

But that's all I would want him to say. That's all of what I'm saying. Look, this thing has been bungled for 15 years. It has 400 different fingerprints on it. I don't know what's true. All I can tell you right now is I can't prove anything. Right. You know, if I had the proof, I would release it.

I can't prove anything. And let's go with the video. Okay, like that is one of the major bungles. Let's forget about the missing minute. Just for a second. Let's go for a minute. Let's go back to another, a few good men reference where there were two airmen in the courtroom.

And they were like, afterwards, he was like, why were they there? And he was like, well, they were here to testify that they had no evidence of anything. Well, you mentioned the video. The mistake was actually saying that was evidence of something. Because the only thing that video was evidence of is that it had no visible view of Epstein's cell. It is evidence that this proves nothing. Correct. That didn't prove anything. Why even mention that? I don't know. Why show, why even show it? I mean, well, I'm glad they showed it. Show everything that you have, but that was nothing. Okay. So, and that's the way it should have been

that's, look, we're going to release what we have. I don't think it shows anything, but I'm going to, in the interest of, of, you know, full disclosure, here's what we do have. And, and then show the video. That I accept. That I accept. Oh, and by the way, it went through, you know, some sort of editing process. Tell me why it went through that process. Oh, and it's missing a minute.

Tell me it. Tell me in advance. Don't let me question and then come back. It looks bad. It just looks horrible. And I don't know what the truth is on that. But let me show you what it's doing. Let me show you what it's doing and why this has to be solved right now.

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news decision desk polls shows in mid-June, 57% of voters held an unfavorable view of the Democratic Party. The parties, this is from NBC, the party's radical messaging on illegal aliens and deportations is not helping their cause. Okay. Donald Trump has huge support on border security and the handling of immigration. Look at what they're doing. Look at what they're doing. They are now fighting for illegals.

They're now fighting for radicals on the street. They're now fighting for a communist to be the mayor. They're fighting for everything that average Americans are against. And I think this is where Donald Trump's frustration is coming from. He hears people like me on the air talking to people like you on the air saying, you know, we've got to solve this Epstein thing. And he's like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

And in the grand scheme of things, he may be right with the evidence that we either had or don't have. But that is a huge problem. We have to come together. We have to solve that or we're not going to be able to come back together

because what he is doing is really, really good. We are making really great progress and they are the ones completely falling apart. completely falling apart. But he won because he had a new group of young people. Young people don't believe the government even more than I don't believe the government.

And they had their faith in him. And he's got to keep that faith in him and in the government. He's got to grow that faith, not diminish that faith. People have got to believe, oh, you know what? Things are getting better in the government. I can trust because you lose somebody who's voting for the first time and they're voting for you because they think you're going to change things, which he is. But he makes one big error, or in my opinion, Pam Bondi makes several big errors on this one thing. And you can't just deny it out of existence.

It's here. Can we stop feeding it? Yeah. But I think the way to defeat it and kill it is take. all of your antibiotics. You've convinced us we have cancer on this issue. You can't just say, why are you keep asking me about cancer? You don't have any.

Can I see the test? No, you don't have cancer. I told you this. But you were convinced last week I had cancer. Ah! Why do you keep bringing this cancer thing up? Well, I'd like to believe I don't have cancer. Would you show me the tests?

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know if that makes it better, does it, Jason? No, it's basically the same thing. I mean, I guess it's not, you know, we know they're not going to be sold into corruption. Not going to go to some Nazi. Right. That's an upgrade. It's actually a very

good point because there was no, you know, transparency at all. None. Talk about chain of custody. We have no clue. I saw, was it Lindsey Graham over the weekend talking about, you know, that he was expecting an announcement today. I don't know if this is what it is or not. Yeah, I didn't think it is. I think that we know, we all know at the core what President Trump's all about, which is stopping war, which is not having it happen. I've seen a lot of negotiating power shifted in his corner, especially after the Iran Israel thing. Yes. He has definitely got the, I don't know, it's hard to describe his negotiation, or the way he does foreign policy. It's almost like shock, shock foreign policy to

where. It's overton window. They don't really know what to expect. Correct. And that's very, good. I think this is feeding into that. I think it's part of it. We know Trump doesn't want to go to war, but now Vladimir Putin is not so sure. So I think that this is the president testing the waters here, letting that, you know, what he's done, especially with Iran and Israel, let that kind of speak for himself and see if this moves the needle. This is one of the things that kills me about the critics of Donald Trump, the ones who like him. I heard all kinds of people saying, oh, now look, we're going to go to war. Do you really think that that's what Donald Trump is doing? No. You really think he spent his whole life talking about two things, his hatred for foreign wars and

his love for tariffs. And he's going to get on that, that's been a lifetime ruse just so he could get in and then bring us to war. He, he is doing everything you can to stop this war. You, you saw it in the frustration that he had, what was it a week ago where he let the F bomb fly at the reporters as he's going into Marine One. He, he just thinks this is just stupid. This is just stupid in Israel and Hamas and Iran.

And also with Ukraine and Russia. But he's got to be, you know, you, he understands peace through strength. He's not going to send, you know, a pallet of cash to our enemy. They'll be like, hey, Vladimir Putin, look what showed up on your tarmac, a trillion dollars. And expect that to work. It's not going to work. It's not going to work. No.

He knows he has to be tough. And that's what's happening. I don't like sending arms to Ukraine. I guess I'm better with him going to NATO, but then NATO is going to give them to Ukraine. So what difference does that make? You know what I mean? I don't understand that one.

But I will tell you that he's meeting with the NATO Secretary General at the White House right now, and he's talking about this. And, you know, you got to give the guy some credit on being a negotiator. Oh, absolutely. He's set all this up through how he's dealt with all the rest of the situations that has come before this one. He's in actually a very, very good position. He's shown that he's willing to, not only willing to, but prefers to go to the negotiating table. He tried to force Vladimir Putin, which he did a little bit, got some concessions,

but they did something that they have not done since Russia invaded Ukraine. They sat down and talked. He should just, if anything, he should get credit for that right there. But now, since this is not really working, he's also shown that he's willing to get tough. He's willing to say, okay, fine, that's not working. Then this has to work. So now the Russians are having to weigh these two things. I don't want to see a B2 flying over some area, you know, anytime in the near future.

Nobody wants to see that. Maybe we should start looking at this negotiating thing a little bit more. Right now, all the options appear to be on the table, and that's a good thing. the confusion is a good thing on the Russian side. So there's a lot of talk about, you know, from our side on Donald Trump, man, he's really, and I got to tell you, I don't see it this way. I see Pam Bondi making some bad, and, you know, maybe I'm singling her out unfairly. I don't think so, but maybe I am.

I see a real problem on that, real problem. And that's not a problem they can't correct. they just have to do it. But I see, you know, now people are saying, oh, see, he's just getting us into a foreign war. You really, maybe it's just me. You don't understand what this guy is doing. And quite honestly, tell me one thing that is easy for him to solve.

How is he going to solve the, how do you solve the immigration thing? How do you solve that? He's already solved. Nobody's coming in. He solved that. Now he's got to fight with these kangaroo courts all over the country where the Supreme Court has said, you can't do it. They're still doing it.

You're dealing with actual Marxists and communists who are funded by our own government, in some cases, who are putting radicals on the streets to burn things down and to cause havoc and chaos. You have people now in the press who would rather take down Donald Trump. and start some sort of a ground war against ice by using video of children running from ice, most likely not because of ice, but because they were trying to escape. They were there without any parents. They were there as individual children. God only knows what these people have, what these kids have gone through.

And they were working illegally in the pot fields. So, I mean, it's bad enough, California. You've got pot fields. On top of that, now you've got children, you know, picking the pot fields for you. And you're still standing with the communist radicals. I mean, what do you do? I mean, it's easy for an authoritarian. They say, well, he's an authoritarian.

He's, you know, he's Mussolini. He's Hitler. You know, Hitler would have had all this taken care of a long time ago. Trains would be running on time by this point. He's not. He's doing everything he can constitutionally. And, I mean, tell me the thing that is going his way. We wouldn't have to, we wouldn't, he wouldn't have had to waste his time today on Ukraine and Russia.

He wouldn't have had to waste his time on Iran and Israel. Had Biden not screwed both those places up, he'd be working on other things. Look how much time it's taken. And they love it. They love it. and they love it that we are tearing each other apart. It's hard because you've got to question these things, but you also have to question them in a way where you're not tearing each other apart.

And I don't know how to do that. I don't know if I'm doing a good job or a really bad job. I don't know if you perceive me as a giant sellout or, you know, too tough. I have no idea. No idea. I don't really care because I'm just saying what I believe to be the right thing. But the one thing I don't want to do is cause more problems. Because look at the problems that the left is causing.

And nobody, we're not paying attention to it. We're not paying attention to it. We've got Mom Donnie, who is, he might be the, he's a communist. They're shooting themselves in the foot over and over and over again. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, you know, we talked earlier about there are some things that we can do that we should be doing. I think that you always said to me way back when I started doing this job when I just came on with your chief researchers.

When you are finally, if you're stuck, just start falling in the money. Yeah. That will tell you so much. I feel like right now we're stuck with this Epstein thing, whether it's because of chain of custody, whether it's because it's been 15 years. Whatever it is. Whatever it is. I think that's something that a special counsel and a grand, a grand, a grand, a grand of, a grand jury focused on weaponization of government as a whole.

So rush a gate everything. I think a lot of the Epstein stuff will come out with that. I think that if you started following the money, just on the Epstein stuff, we can block out a lot of the other things that, you know, seem suspicious. Let's say the intelligence connections, things like that, that we can't prove. We probably will never prove,

but we all kind of think are there. Let's not go there. Right now, let's just concentrate on following the money. That could lead us to the intelligence connections. That could lead us to a lot of other things. Look at Epstein's financial network, for instance. It is a maze. This is not how things are supposed to go.

Offshore shell companies, these are facts. Offshore shell companies in places like Bermuda, where we get money coming in by the millions, and then they go black. They're black coming in, they're black going out. Why is that, Glenn? Isn't that something that our financial, you know, experts and nerds can go, wait a minute, let's focus on that.

Maybe that will lead us to what we want to know. The question is to the Treasury, were there any warnings from banks? Because banks are supposed to warn this is like a black site. That's what happened with Hunter Biden. Remember, there were like 80 some or 180 some warnings to the Treasury from banks saying this looks like money laundering. I'd like to know from the Treasury.

Were there any warnings on that? Because with that many offshore accounts, that's what those are for. You know, it's either sheltering money against taxes or something really nefarious is going on. Money is going in and out that shouldn't be going in and out. And where is this money coming from? And where is this money going to? Yeah, like banks that were supposedly just turning a blind eye to some of these transactions. Maybe we look at some of those.

what about the charities? This is another thing. And I want to put maybe some of these things we can show on Wednesday for our TV show. I mean, just the money alone will is just a total mind screw. It is insane. But like charities, why were major billionaires going to Epstein to then funnel money or not if I want to want to say funnel money, but then to have Epstein do major contributions to some of these charities?

Why? Why would major billionaires after Epstein is. already been outed through a case, what was that, 2008, 2009. He's already been outed as this person. Would you then go to this guy and then say, let's funnel money into some of these charities? Why? Unless you're trying to hide money. Unless you're trying to direct it in certain ways. Again, these are tangible things that we can follow. This is money. It tells a story. We can follow it. Now, why isn't the mainstream media concentrating on that? Why isn't the New York Times saying, Bermuda, there's monies and show companies in Bermuda, the U.S. Virgin Islands, this makes no sense.

This is like Cyprus and gangsters in Ukraine for crying out loud. Which they also didn't cover. It's right there, which they didn't cover. I mean, come on, guys. I know, I know. I know. Well, we'll cover it on Wednesday. On the Wednesday night special, don't miss it this Wednesday, only on Blaze TV and my YouTube channel, YouTube.com.

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Saving those children is how we all go home. From binge all episodes exclusively on Paramount Plus. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. So there's another story I have a real big problem with this mountain lion in Rochester, New York. Okay, for me, enough said there. Mountain lion in Rochester, New York, what? But some guy saw it. on his doorbell, on his ring doorbell, and grabbed a baseball bat.

Now they can't find the mountain line. Do I have this right? Yeah, the police, they had like a full lockdown for the vicinity, but the police couldn't confirm whether it was still there. I'm looking at the ring camera image right now. And it, let me see that. It looks like a mountain line. Look at that sucker.

Coming in from, wow, that's a mountain lion. That looks like a mountain lion. That's a mountain line. That's a mountain line. There's somebody took, put that in a car. Somebody's like, hey, you know what to be funny? Let's put a mountain lion in the car. take it up to New York. New York doesn't have mountains, let alone a mountain lion. How do they have

mountain lions up there? You got to watch the dude that did the interview. He is the coolest guy ever. I've got to go out of the baseball bat. He's like, he does the interview with the baseball back because he said that he's staying prepared. I want him on the show. I want him on the show tomorrow. I also want on the show the guy who found the baby, the infant on the sidewalk. Did you hear about this in Chicago? Somebody just left a baby on the sidewalk in Chicago. This guy's having a really bad day. he's driving along in his car and it's really super hot and his air conditioning is out. So he has his windows rolled down. And he's just,

it's not a good day. And then he hears a baby crying. And he's sitting at a stoplight and he's like, where the hell can the baby? And he looks over and he sees this package on the ground. It's a little baby. He gets out of the car and he rescues this baby. I mean,

if you want to talk about, you know, Providence, to me that's Providence. Dude, you're, your air condition. was a sign from God.

I mean, I know you might look at that as a real hassle, but that was the luckiest thing that ever happened in your life. Save a baby. How great is that? I want to have him on the show tomorrow, too, if we can get him. I also like to have Jesus on the show. I don't know what he's up to lately. Probably a little busy, but I'd like to have him on the show.

The guy that spotted the mountain line, I'll just give you a preview of what we might get. This is a quote. They told the local news station, I heard the roar. I felt the rar. I know he'd be pushing. I know that.

In my head, I'm like, no, I got to go, man. I'm out. I don't understand. Is this the Wizard of Oz? Rar. He says it multiple times. You've got to hear this. It's amazing.

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