The Harry Sisson Show - Epstein BOMBSHELL IMPLICATES Trump As PUBLIC MELTDOWN COLLAPSES Term

Episode Date: August 2, 2025

Trump Has PUBLIC MELTDOWN As Term COLLAPSESEpstein Lawyer IMPLICATES Trump In EPSTEIN CRIMESEpstein BOMBSHELL Proves Trump Knew EVERYTHING

There's so much coming out right now on Donald Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and what he knew about Epstein and when he knew it. And a lot of the suspicion that the American people are feeling right now is coming from Donald Trump himself and some of the recent comments he made. Like, for example, when he recently said on Air Force One that Virginia Joufrey, one of the most well-known Epstein victims, was stolen from Marlago by Epstein. and then she was, of course, subsequently sex trafficked by Epstein. This is the first time that Donald Trump has ever acknowledged this happening on record.

Previously, he's just kind of denied it outright. And so naturally, a lot of questions are being raised about what Trump knew when he knew it because he just keeps getting the timeline wrong. And so CNN just published this explosive article kind of summarizing everything we know about Trump, and they make the case that it's likely Trump knew, about what Epstein was doing at the time that Jufre was taken from Mar-a-Lago. So I want to break down this article with you and these explosive revelations that they are reigniting that have already been published but didn't get the attention that they deserve.

But before I do that, I want you to hear directly from the family of Virginia Joufrey and their response to Donald Trump's comment that Virginia was stolen from Mar-a-Lago. Have a look and then we'll break down that article. She wasn't stolen. She was prayed upon at his property, at President Trump's property. And I think it's very important that we don't treat it. Like stolen seems very impersonal. It feels very much like an object.

And these survivors are not objects. Women are not objects. What goes to my mind is that it's time to protect survivors, and it's time to protect the young women and our future generation of young women. So no, she wasn't stolen. She was preyed upon. And it certainly makes you kind of ask the question,

you know, how much he knew during that time, right? Even a couple of years later, even after he, you know, I believe he had stated something along the lines of cutting off communication or kicking him out, You know, he described Jeffrey Epstein as somebody who really enjoyed being around young women. And so she was preyed upon. She wasn't stolen.

That's a predator that came and took her and did absolutely horrible things to her and so many other women out there. You know, you can just see the pain that this family still feels, even after all these years later, they still feel this very deeply. and Trump commenting on Virginia, their sister, their relative, and calling her essentially an object saying she was stolen, like a vase being stolen out of a museum, is just so disgusting. So I want to get into this article with you now about what Trump knew about Virginia Jufre and when. And there's some pretty explosive things in here

that, as I mentioned, are just not getting the attention they deserve. Let's start here with Trump's reported conversations about Epstein and young women. Now, and while the, and they write, and while the 2002 Trump quote that Jufre's family cited about Epstein and women on the younger side is the most off-sighted one, it's not the only piece of evidence that Trump might have encountered red flags about Epstein. A Florida-based businessman told the New York Times in a 2019 interview that he raised concerns about Epstein's conduct ahead of a 1992 calendar girl event, saying, quote, I said, looked on, I know Jeff really well. I can't have him going after younger girls, the businessman, George Harani said.

The first Trump White House did not comment on that report. Here's another one. Longtime Trump advisor Roger Stone wrote in his 2016 book about a scene in which Trump talked about how Epstein's quote, swimming pool was full of beautiful young girls. How nice I thought, Trump said, according to Stone, he let the neighborhood kids use his pool. What? I mean, that quote is gross enough to send shivers down your spine. I'm certainly feeling that right now. Let's just break this down really

quickly. Let's start with the Roger Stone thing. So according to Roger Stone, who again, no liberal, this is a longtime Trump advisor still works in maga politics. By his own admission, Trump acknowledged that Epstein had his swimming pool full of young girls, the neighbor. The neighbor's, the neighbor's kids. And not only that, not only was Epstein hanging out with young girls, the neighborhood kids who were swimming in his pool, but Donald Trump also described those young kids, those neighborhood kids, as beautiful young girls. What? I mean, that is so gross, so insane. And it seems like Donald Trump was kind of dabbling in endorsing what Epstein was doing, or at least it seems like there is some knowledge there of what Epstein was doing. He's acknowledging that

neighborhood kids were hanging out at his house. But then here's another one that's really concerning. If this businessman, George Harani, knew about what Epstein was doing, so much so that he even warned Donald Trump, then how can Trump possibly claim that he had no idea? According to lawyers who represented Epstein victims, Epstein would bring in around three young girls into his house per day to commit crimes to. And anybody that was socializing with Epstein at the time would have seen. seen that and naturally raised concerns, been alarmed because this grown-ass man is hanging out

with little girls. If George Harani this businessman knew, how did Donald Trump possibly not? You know, these are just two pieces of evidence against Donald Trump in the sense that, you know, he claims he didn't know, but I think these speak a different story and his quote saying that Epstein liked women on the younger side. These are only a few pieces of evidence. I mean, there's more. And here's another key part of this story, which Joufrey's family, was asking in that CNN interview tonight. Did Donald Trump know what Epstein recruited her for? Another key question is about the job that Jufre was ostensibly poached for. Did Donald Trump know that Epstein recruited her to become a masseuse? In 2019 comments to the Washington Post, former Trump

aide Sam Nunberg described asking Trump about his ties to Epstein as Trump was gearing up for his 2016 presidential campaign. Nunberg said that Trump had told him he had objected to Epstein recruiting a young woman who worked at Marlago to give Epstein massages, a description that sounds very similar to Jufre's situation. He's a real creep. I banned him. Nuremberg said Trump told him. Nunberg told CNN in an email Thursday that he didn't know whether Trump was referring to Jufre specifically. Quote, I do not recall any name being mentioned, nor would it have been a concern vis-a-vis any discussion with Trump as he was not involved in any way with the Jewfrey lawsuit, which was active at the time. To the extent Trump knew Epstein recruited

Jufre for massages, that would be problematic. Jufre, after all, wasn't just a minor at the time. She also wasn't even a masseuse. She served as an attendant in the Marlago spa, according to her testimony. Her legal team also noted, she wasn't even qualified for a massage license under Florida law, which required one to be 18 years old or have a high school diploma or equivalent, all of which raises the prospect that Trump might have been aware of not just an employee being poached, but a minor employee being poached for a specific type of job that did not seem appropriate for her. Epstein was taking a minor who could not have possibly had a masseuse license, who was

working at Donald Trump's Marlago, and Trump has acknowledged this to be his masseuse. and Donald Trump is, again, pleading ignorance. He's saying he had no idea this is happening, except he's now acknowledging that it's happening. It's all very strange, how it all comes together in the timeline. And beyond that, there are the reported conversations about Epstein and young females that book into all of this. Harani's account indicates he raised concerns about Epstein going after young girls

eight years before the Jufre episode. If Harani's account is correct, Trump would have seemingly have had reason to be suspicious about Epstein recruiting a minor Mar-Lago employee in 2000, whether for massages or anything else. And Trump would go on two years after. He suggests he was alienated by this episode to praise Epstein as a terrific guy and cite how Epstein likes women on the younger side. Trump, the White House, and Nunberg have also repeatedly referenced the idea that Trump fell out with Epstein because he learned he was a creep. That includes Caroline Levitt, who said something similar, but there's no real clarity on what creep refers to.

Trump on Tuesday, bulked at providing clarity on that point. When asked by a reporter what he meant by creep, he attacked the news outlet saying NBC, NBC is fake news. I don't care. It's one of the worst. Somewhat similarly, when Trump was asked after Epstein's 2019 arrest about the reason the two of them had a falling out, he avoided a direct answer. The reason doesn't make any difference, frankly, Trump said at the time. None of it is a smoking gun, but the timeline and the president's Slow disclosures certainly suggest the questions about what he knew and when are legitimate and relevant. And it doesn't seem as though those questions are going away now that those close to Epstein's

victims are pressing them. So given all of this, it's just incredibly strange. There are weird connections between Trump and Epstein, which are now on full display. And when you factor in everything, Trump's birthday card to Epstein in 2003, photos and videos of them partying together, not only in the 1990s, but also. the 2000s. Trump's comment in 2002 that Epstein likes women on the younger side and everything we just broke down in the article, it almost seemingly implies, if not, confirms that Donald Trump knew more about Epstein than he has previously let on and that he's telling the American people

right now. A question that a lot of us are thinking about right now regarding Donald Trump and his relationship to Epstein is what did Trump know about what Epstein was doing and when did he find out? And also, why did he not tell the authorities or the American people through everything? And Donald Trump has only made these questions grow because, for example, recently saying that Virginia Jufre was stolen from Mar-a-Lago by Epstein, publicly acknowledging for the first time ever that Epstein used to use Trump's properties to prey on Yon. girls and then bring them into his world of crime. And that's a question that Sigrid McCauley, an attorney who represented a number of different Epstein victims in different cases, was discussing

on CNN last night. And she dropped a pretty major bombshell in this interview saying that it's incredibly likely that Donald Trump knew Epstein was doing the things that he was and likely saw Epstein with young women. So I want to get into this interview that Aaron Burnett on CNN conducted with McCauley. But before I do that, I want to show you this clip of Representative Dan Goldman, a Democrat, asking this very question and theorizing on what Donald Trump might have known and when he found out. Take a look. Worked as a prosecutor and in partisan investigations for a long time. Virginia Jafre's family is saying, you know, it makes us ask a lot of questions. Based on the president's statement

that Jafre was stolen from the spa at Mar-a-Lago, what questions would that raise if you were investigating this now? Well, this is a totally new swing on this issue, John. Virginia Joufrey was a victim, a minor victim of Jeffrey Epstein's horrific child sex trafficking ring. If Jeffrey Epstein stole her from the Mar-a-Lago spa, then she was working at the Mar-a-Lago spa when she was underage. And it begs the questions, given Donald Trump's other statements, about how much was he in knowing what was going on with Jeffrey Epstein and how much was he potentially involved? He has used other excuses for why his falling out with Jeffrey Epstein occurred, but there's no question from his comments that he knew that Jeffrey Epstein liked younger

women, and now we have this new allegation that he stole a younger girl from his spot. This is not like spa to spa here. Jeffrey Epstein had a child sex trafficking right. Exactly right. And look, you know, the timeline, the actual established timeline, not the one that Donald Trump has made up, is really bad for Trump because Virginia Jufre was stolen, according to Donald Trump. It's a weird word to use.

But taken from Marlago by Epstein in the year 2000. And then in 2002, Donald Trump described Epstein as a great guy who likes women on the younger side. So did Donald Trump know that Epstein was using Mar-Lago to prey on young women and was he leaving these women vulnerable to Donald Trump? All of these questions have been raised in the past couple of days because of Donald Trump's new comments. And this is something, as I mentioned, that Sigrid McCauley was talking about in her interview with CNN last night, not only touching on the comment that Donald Trump made about Virginia Joufrey, but also the fact that it's probably very likely that Donald Trump knew exactly what Epstein was doing.

doing and saw him hanging around with young women. So let's take a look at this interview and we'll talk about it after. I want to go now as promised to Sigrid McCauley. She represented Virginia Joufrey in her lawsuits against Jeffrey Epstein and Galane Maxwell. Also, she helped recover $365 million in a class action lawsuit for Epstein victims against two major financial institutions. I mentioned in this context again, Tara Palmeri's reporting that there are a thousand or more women in these files who were victims of Jeffrey Epstein and others. Now, we heard Virginia Jufre's family response to what President Trump said about her. Sigrid, you know, they say, it makes us ask if he was aware of Jeffrey

Epstein and Galane Maxwell's criminal actions. Now, Sigrid, you have been there in the room and through the testimony, through the documentation relating to Epstein. Would someone like Trump, who was close friends with Epstein for many years, well over a decade, close to two perhaps, have likely been aware of Epstein's lifestyle. Well, certainly anybody who was operating that sphere, who was socializing with him, would have seen him with young individuals. I mean, he had, as his house staff testified, up to three individual young girls coming into his home every single day. So this was part of his world. This was how he operated. He had a regular stream of young victims that were in his space every single day, whether that was in floor.

in New York, overseas. It was constant. So you have to imagine that anybody who's, you know, spending time with him would have seen those those women around, around Epstein. And in that context, does Trump's comments to New York Magazine in 2002 and he said, and it said he likes them on the younger side, that's Trump referring to Epstein? Does that, does that stand out to you, given what you just said, given what you know that he would have actually said that? I think anybody who was around would have observed those young girls and would have been suspicious that there was something happening. And why did he have all of these very young individuals around him? Why was he parading

them around with him on a regular basis? So, and I don't think Trump's the exception there. I think there were many people who he socialized with who frankly turned a blind eye to what was an over 20 year long sex trafficking operation. Wow. So I just want to quickly pause it right there before we hear her next answer and question. But what she just said is incredibly significant. Epstein was, according to this lawyer who has seen all the documents, seen everything in this case, was bringing around, around three young women, young girls, I should say, into his home every day, regardless of wherever he was, New York, Florida, Paris, whatever, bringing these young girls into his home every day. And people who are hanging around Epstein in his orbit, socializing

with him, they absolutely saw these young girls hanging out with him. him. And if you're a rational person, you see three different young girls coming into this house every day, hanging out with a older man. You're going to be freaked out. There are some red flags that are going to be raised. And so if Epstein was doing this on a daily basis in Florida, in New York, around the world, it is almost certain. Now, we don't know this for certain, but I theorize it's almost certain that Donald Trump must have seen something at some point. They were friends for decades. And so Donald Trump's argument is that, yeah, Epstein was doing this every single day, bringing in around three young girls every single day. But he's trying to tell us that he never saw anything.

I call BS. And she is absolutely right that it's not just a Trump thing. Anybody that was hanging around Epstein at the time likely witnessed this. And Trump was, of course, hanging around Epstein at the time. Let's continue. And that's the real injustice here. I mean, there were so many people who knew. And that, and the real question on that, you know, given how Virginia Joufrey and the depositions, the knowledge of the case, the settlement with Prince Andrew, what happened with a royal family there, right? I mean, Donald Trump knows who she is, okay? So, and he knows that she died by suicide just a few months ago. So when Trump says that he stole, that Epstein stole Virginia Joufrey from the Mar-a-Lago spa, to use that word.

now with all of that context from Trump. What do you think when you hear that? I think it was really hard for her family to hear that, obviously. You know, it's a very tender time for them right now. They're, you know, reeling from the loss of their beloved sister, as all of us are, as the survivors are. I mean, she was really at the forefront of calling out Maxwell and Epstein for these crimes. And to be clear, it was not Epstein who recruited Virginia from Mara Lago. It was actually Gieland Maxwell. And so I think it's even adding insult to injury that the government is now giving her this microphone to discuss things with them. So I think the family is just facing a lot right now with respect to what's transpiring. Yeah, I mean,

and that's a major point as well that the Trump administration is actively entertaining Gielaine Maxwell, kind of flirting with the idea of giving her a pardon. Donald Trump has not closed the door. And yet she's a known liar, a known press. a known perjurer, might I add, being charged with two counts of perjury throughout the investigation and subsequent cases against her. That's who the Trump administration is engaging with right now and believing as well, sending the number two at the DOJ, Todd Blanche, to go meet with her over a number of different days. So this interview with Sigrid McCauley is stunning. And I think that we've all like kind of theorized that Trump must have seen something over the years when he was friends with

Epstein, but the numbers she was providing, the facts of like, yeah, this was an everyday thing. Epstein was bringing in at least three girls a day. That really blows the whole case open, along with everything else that we've been talking about on this channel. I've been covering it extensively trying to bring as much information to you folks as possible when I get it. But wow. All right, so check this out. Donald Trump is having yet another full-blown meltdown right now on social media, just nonstop, relentless all day posting. And look, these meltdowns from Donald Trump are nothing new. We see them all the time. It feels like an almost daily occurrence at this point. We know who Trump is. We know what he does. We see these rants. But here's the difference. Trump's normal

rants, they kind of just apply to his MAGA base, his very niche corner of the internet where people worship him no matter what. And it doesn't really affect me or you. This rant in particular will have implications for not only my life, but your life, the lives of every American, America's standing on the world stage, America's economy, and more. Because Trump's not just posting on social media now, he's actually taking action as well. So I want to get into some of these posts that Donald Trump has let fly on social media today. But in order to give you some context, we have to start here. Because Trump's spiral really started with this report that we got earlier today. The job market for last month in July were really, really poor.

They indicate that people don't trust the United States economy that much. They're uncertain about Trump's economic plans and the tariffs are really, really hurting a lot of people. So the New York Times and other outlets, of course, are reporting that employers have pulled back on hiring as uncertainty weighs on plans. The labor market showed signs of weakening with 73,000 jobs added in July and gains for the previous two months revised significant. significantly lower, only 73,000 jobs added in July. And when you look at this on a graph, it really tells you the story of the Trump economy. You can see from July 24, July 2024 that is, until Biden left office in July 2025. The numbers were great. I mean, we had some lower months. We had some great months. But the numbers for the economy and the jobs added were fantastic. And that was a pretty

consistent theme throughout the Biden presidency. Then as soon as Donald Trump gets into office, the numbers are significantly lower than Biden's average numbers. They're kind of steady. And then they plummet in May and June and now July because Donald Trump's economic plans are really kicking in. And initially, in May of 2025, it was reported that we had 144,000 jobs. In this new report, it's been revised down to only 19,000. In June, it was 147,000 jobs. Now it's been revised down to only 14,000. And of course, this new jobs, report, we're at 73,000. The revision for this report won't be coming out until next month. But if this trend tells us anything, this 19 to 14,000, then it's probably not going to be great. And this, these numbers, this data, the people around the world and, of course, in the United

States, who have no confidence in the American economy is what sent Trump into a spiral. So this is one of the posts he put out, which is a major breaking news headline because of the implications it's going to have, which I'll break down in just a second. He said, quote, I was just informed that our country's job numbers are being produced by a Biden appointee, Dr. Erica McIntyre, the commissioner of labor statistics who faked the job numbers before the election to try and boost Kamala's chances of victory. This is the same Bureau of Labor Statistics that overstated the job growth in March of 2024 by approximately 818,000 and then right again before the election in

2024. These were records. No one can beat that wrong. No, excuse me, no one can be that wrong. We need accurate job numbers. I've directed my team to fire this Biden political appointee immediately. She'll be replaced with someone much more competent and qualified.

Important numbers like this must be fair and accurate. They can't be manipulated for political purposes. She said there were only 73,000 jobs added. A shock. But more importantly, that a major mistake was made by them, 258,000 jobs downward in the prior two months. Similar things happened in the first part of the year, always to the negative. The economy is booming under Trump, despite a Fed that also plays games, this time with interest rates,

where they lowered them twice and substantially just before the presidential election, I assume in hopes of getting Kamel elected. How did that work out? Jerome Too Le Powell should also be put out to pasture. Thanks for your attention to the matter. Okay, so a lot wrong with this post, obviously. But how can the American people trust the job numbers from? the Bureau of Labor Statistics if Donald Trump is doing crap like this.

This political appointee by Biden was confirmed by the Senate with around 86 votes. One of the people that voted for her, J.D. Vance. A bunch of Republicans viewed her as competent that she could do the job. She's obviously very skilled. She's a doctor in her field, right? She's very skilled to what she does. Just because Donald Trump's economy sucks, he's now firing people and going to appoint them, or I should say replace them,

with a loyalist who will just report whatever numbers Donald Trump wants them to. So how can people, and by the way, not just Democrats, how can investors who keep the American economy going by investing in our companies, in markets and things like that, how can these investors be confident that the numbers next month are going to be real, are going to be accurate? Because it's just going to be a Trump political appointee. And these revisions for all these different numbers you see this month and, of course, last month, or I should say last month

in the month before that, are very common. It happens all the time with job numbers. It happened during Biden's presidency as well. It's not mistakes being made. It's just how these things work. It's not to hurt Donald Trump. It's just how these reporting's work. And yet Donald Trump is saying,

uh-uh, we're going to fire her and cause even more panic. Genuinely, the question is, how can people trust these numbers if Donald Trump is taking action like this? And he followed up on this post in another one saying, in my opinion, today's job numbers were rigged in order to make the Republicans and me look bad. Just like when they had three great days around the 2024 presidential election and then those numbers were taken away right after the election, revised massively downward.

Jerome two Powell, sorry, too late Powell's no better. But the good news is our country is doing great. He's now claiming that the numbers were just rigged with no evidence. There's absolutely no evidence to report or to back up his claim that the numbers were rigged, but that's just how Donald Trump operates and just claiming that the numbers were fake to make him look bad, but they were obviously not. Donald Trump just can't possibly admit that his economic policies, the tariffs, the fighting with our trading partners, the alienating allies is not that successful of a policy. And it's actually hurting the American people.

So instead of just acknowledging that, he's claiming that the numbers were rigged, firing the commissioner for these things. It's insane. Here's another one, unrelated to all this, but still part of the meltdown nonetheless, Trump is announcing that he's putting nuclear submarines near Russia. Why? You might ask, well, let's dive in. Based on the highly provocative statements of the former president of Russia, Dmitri Medvedev, who is now the deputy chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, I've ordered two nuclear submarines to be positioned in the appropriate regions, just in case these foolish and inflammatory statements are more than just that. Words are very important and can often lead to unintended

consequences. I hope this will not be one of those instances. Thanks for your attention. to this matter. So Donald Trump is in the process of not only escalating tensions because of words by putting nuclear submarines near Russia, he's also crashing the American economy. And if you look at the markets today, they're not only reacting to the terrible job numbers and the revisions downward, but they're also reacting to Donald Trump just firing people trying to put the onus, the blame on them, not on the fact that his policies just suck. His policies are just terrible. And he increased a terrorist by 10% on Canada last night from 25% to 35% he's not backing down. You know, this is genuinely, and it's kind of hard to stress this, but this is genuinely really bad for the American economy.

Because if investors can't trust the numbers next month, if investors can't trust the numbers that we're talking about right now and the subsequent job numbers that will be reported as Trump's presidency goes on, then they won't invest in the United States. They won't invest in companies here. And that hurts all of us.