The Harry Sisson Show - Trump Employee LEAKS His Biggest Epstein Secret...

Episode Date: December 27, 2025

Harry Sisson reacts to the major development in the Epstein case surrounding Donald Trump.

All right, folks, this is a very big deal, and it could be the thing that we are all missing about the story surrounding Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. Of course, we are all focused on the files right now. Rightfully so, there are some explosive allegations against Donald Trump in them. But I think it goes much deeper, something that we really haven't explored yet. The man on your screen right now, his name is Steve. And he published a bombshell video just the other day saying how he used to be a judge for the beauty pageants Donald Trump used to run. Miss USA, Miss Teen USA, and he says the media is missing the mark. We are missing the mark.

People need to look at these beauty pageants deeper for potential crimes that Donald Trump might have committed himself, might have committed with Epstein. And he's blowing the whistle, essentially. So we're going to look at this video and hear what he has to say. But I also did a deep dive in preparation for this to see more about Donald Trump's beauty pageant history. And it gets worse. We're going to talk about all of it in just a moment.

Before I do any of that, make sure to subscribe. down below, drop a like on the video, comment. Let me know what you think about this story. And let's hear from Steve. Let's see what he has to say. I think this is pretty damning. Have a look. When it comes to Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, the media is missing the smoking gun.

Now, I've sat on this information for years, and I really didn't want to get into this because this is not in my job description, and it's very dangerous to come out with this publicly. The smoking gun is Miss USA and Miss Teen U.S. the pageants which Donald Trump owned for years. Now, how do I know? Because I was one of the judges in these pageants. I trained dozens and dozens of the winners and the runners up in public speaking to promote their platform. This is all I'm going to say about this. If you're in the media and you're looking for information, start with Billy Bush. Billy Bush hosted the Miss USA, Miss Teen USA multiple times. Nancy O'Dell is another one and then go down the rabbit hole from there.

There are people that know a lot more than those two, but start there. They're celebrities and start there, go down the rabbit hole. And I think what you're going to find is going to be very, very upsetting. Don't call me. I'm not going to comment. I'm not going on TV and talking about this. This is very dangerous to sit on. If you decide to pursue this in the media, be very, very careful. these people are dangerous. Wow. I wish he would speak more about it. He is hesitant.

He seems pretty nervous. And only a few publications I, you know, in research for this video, have covered this story, have covered this video. But some explosive things here. And I was wondering in my mind, like, who are the people he mentioned? And in my research, I realized, remember this quote where Donald Trump was saying, you know, I moved on her, I failed. I did try and blank her.

She was married. I moved on her very heavily. this is that explosive tape that came out in 2016 of Donald Trump speaking in 2005 about a married woman. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, I'll show you where they have some nice furniture. I took her out. I moved on her like a, but I couldn't get there. And she was married.

Then all of a sudden I see her. Now she's got these big, you know, you've heard the quote before. But the most infamous one in it says, you know, you can do anything. You can grab them by the blank. You can do anything. So Trump admitting to assault. And that quote that Donald Trump said that too was to Billy Bush. the man who Steve just talked about.

That was said to Billy Bush. That's first and foremost. And it was also said about Nancy O'Dell. So these two people that he mentioned, that he's saying the media should look into more, are the two people involved in that Hollywood access tape where Trump is saying awful things about women talking disgustingly with Billy Bush.

And so I think both of them who do have some connections to Donald Trump and these beauty pageants, maybe somebody should reach out to them and see what they have to say about this and what they have to say about Trump and the pageants. But as I mentioned, I did a deeper dive and I remember this story that we covered on the show over the summer. And it's Donald Trump in 1991 when he was in the prime of being best friends with Epstein, judging a beauty pageant that had participants as young as 14 years old. So we're talking about beauty pageants, the ones that Donald Trump participated in, judge hosted, being the smoking gun, well, there's some evidence to back that up. Whether Steve is being honest and telling the truth about his experiences, which I, for so far,

I don't have any reason to doubt, but let's just say he is. The evidence is still overwhelming for there being some concerning things that Donald Trump did. This is from Midas Touch. They covered it over the summer. The date was July 18th. It just came to my mind in research for this video. Donald Trump judges the 1991 look-of-the-year modeling competition organized by elite model management. Remember that name.

featuring participants as young as 14 years old. A 2020 Guardian investigation into elites look-of-the-year competition uncovered allegations from former contestants and industry insiders that the competition was used by founder John Casablancus and others to engage in inappropriate relationships with vulnerable young models, some of whom were teenagers. And again, the competition had people as young as 14 years old. And this is a video from that competition.

I'm going to play very briefly for you so you can see Trump actually judging it. Just watch. There he is. I don't even have to play it more. There's Donald Trump. A exhaustive round of personal interviews designed to help our judges discover what makes each one. And there he is right there. You're five and a lady?

Serious, huh? We may measure again tonight before you can. Okay. Okay. There he is again. Having conversations. So this is Donald Trump judging these competitions. It gets much worse because Elite is not a good organization, was not a good organization.

Here's some more info regarding the alleged conduct of Elite's boss, Gerald Marie, that occurred during this 1991 look-of-the-year event that Donald Trump was at. This is from the Guardian investigation. In 1991, the couple were among the celebrity guests at the final look of the year. Elite's annual international modeling contest in New York. Evangelista wore her hair in a striking red bob with a heavy fringe and towered over Marie, that's Gerald Marie, the boss of Elite, who wore a black suit and tie. His hair slicked back.

Evangelista joined Naomi Campbell to present a prize, while Marie sat with fellow judges, Casablancus, and Donald Trump. And there are some incredibly serious allegations against Elite. Not only have five women, according to the Guardian, come forward to say that they were assaulted by other men who worked with or for Marie, some of them were as young as 15 years old. And Marie has had his own allegations against him. This is somebody that Donald Trump was associating with judging the competitions. And you can pause right here to read more if you'd like.

But, I mean, for example, Swedish model Ebba Carlson, who was 20 in 1990, alleges that she was assaulted that year by a different elite scout. and that days later, she was introduced to Marie. This guy that Donald Trump was associated with, again, the boss of elite. Trump is seen speaking here in the footage from the 1990, there he is, from the 1991 look of the year, quote, a look of the year contest is the ultimate contest for women who want to go all the way in the modeling business. Again, he's talking about people as young girls, as young as 14. The person all the way to the right in this infamous photo of Donald Trump and Epstein is John Kosovo.

Blankus, the founder of elite model management, who organized the competition. There he is, hanging out with Trump and Epstein. Really weird stuff going on here. Despite the long day behind them and the work that lay ahead, the girls just didn't want to quit, says Donald Trump. And of course, the Guardian investigation is a must read. Elite models boss, Gerald Marie, was one of the most powerful men in fashion. Was he also a predator as French prosecutors investigate four women tell their stories for the first time. And there's Donald Trump in the photo, more images from the event where you can

see very, very young people, very, very young people. And these were the people that Donald Trump was judging, was judging. So point is, and by the way, there's so much more than what we're covering right now. There are so many different clips of Donald Trump talking about walking in on young women. He did it on the Howard Stern show. I have a clip here. It's long, but I'm sure you've all heard the clip of Donald Trump speaking about it. Let's see if I can find it really here. Let's just play it right here. I would create a TV show for you where all you did was just judge women. Now, that may be the best idea of all.

It's a simple thing. It's a half hour and we strip it out all over the country. I would say I'm the all-time judge. You own this pageant. You go over. You're meeting the girls as that. One of them comes up to you and says, Mr. Trump. You're very sexy man. You're a beautiful man. You have fantastic hair. You're a powerful man. Right? Right. You're a powerful. man, I want to sleep with you. Now, you're not the type that would say no. I don't want to hurt their feelings. Right. No, but I mean, you see a beautiful woman. You want to, you want to have that.

You're a guy who likes to have everything. Well, could that be construed, however, as a conflict? Yes. I don't. I don't see there as a conflict. It could be a conflict of interest, but you know, it's the kind of thing you worry about later. Oh, I think. And it gets worse. You, oh my God, it gets worse. So it could be the smoking gun. Point is, I think there's a lot of evidence here. It's something that maybe we should be looking into. I'll look into. I'll continue to look into this. But the existing evidence to suggest something, I'm not, again, not proven. We don't know for sure, not 100%. But the evidence to suggest that something is there, I think is pretty compelling. So look, I will leave the video there. Thank you so much for watching. Make sure to subscribe down below.

Drop a like on the video as well. Comment. Let me know what you think about this. If you think there's any credibility here whatsoever or, you know, maybe it's just an overreaction. You let me know. Of course, I would like to hear from you. But as I always say, have an amazing rest of your day, and we will talk soon.