The Harry Sisson Show - Tucker Carlson Just RUINED Trump's Life
Episode Date: September 25, 2026Harry Sisson breaks down Tucker Carlson leaking a private conversation he had with Donald Trump for the first time ever. ...
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All right, folks, this is a pretty big deal.
Tucker Carlson, who used to be one of Donald Trump's biggest allies and best friends who has recently turned on him,
is now leaking a private conversation they had together about the Iran war,
where Donald Trump said some incredibly concerning things to him,
such as, in the end, we're all dead anyways as a justification to go to war.
Tucker Carlson is really putting it out all on the table right now just months away from the midterm elections,
and I think that this is something the American people should see.
So I'm going to talk about all of this.
We'll talk about much more than just this clip, though.
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And let's start with this clip.
Let's hear what Taco Carlson has to say about this private conversation that he and Trump had about the Iran war before it started.
That really led to Carlson saying, I'm done.
I'm not doing this anymore.
Watch this.
Didn't know the risks.
And once again, I'm in an unusual position because I talk to Trump.
But you've quoted him as waving off the risk by saying it'll all be fine, which could almost.
You all know what he said?
Go on.
what he said, and I haven't said this, but I'm just going to tell you.
Sure. And this is a fact.
And I could look at my calendar, but it was in, it was, I had flown back from Tel Aviv,
from Ben-Gurian airport after seeing the ambassador, and two days later, it was in the Oval
with Trump alone. And he was annoyed that I had given Huckabee a hard time with this whole
conversation about Huckabee, and I said, here, your U.S. as the son of an ambassador,
I know what the job entails. And your ambassador, your representative to this nation, just called
for rearranging the Middle East and allowing Israel to take parts of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria.
Like, this is a diplomatic incident.
And so we had this whole conversation about this.
But then I said, this war is not about Iran's nuclear program, which you told me in the world that you eliminated back in last summer in June.
Yeah. This war is being pushed by Israel with three aims.
One, its own regional hegemony, take Iran off the map.
They don't have freedom of movement as long as Iran is a regional power.
Two, diminishing the power of the GCC, the six Gulf states, which are a rival to Israel
and are becoming this kind of Switzerland of the Middle East, and that's bad for Israeli interests.
And three, getting the U.S. out of the Middle East because we constrain their ambitions,
getting our bases out, destroying our bases.
Israel wants our bases out of the Middle East.
I said this to Trump, to his face in the Oval Office days before the war began.
And he looked at me and said, yes, you're right.
But in the end, we all die anyway.
So it doesn't matter.
That's exactly what he said.
In the end, we all die anyway.
And I said to him, shocked, but what about our kids and our grandkids and like our country?
And he goes, ah, that's, that's a verb.
I don't know.
He didn't respond.
That's a verbatim exchange.
And I said, and it was God watches.
said that. Okay. And I think it was, I thought it was true then, and I think it's been proven
true now. The goal was to get the U.S. out, to diminish the GCC, and obviously to take Iran
off the map and sink it into permanent internal strife into civil war, sectarian strife.
And he said, it doesn't matter because in the end, we're all dead anyway. And I was shocked
by that, because it's nihilism. And that's the last thing any leader should display or any
person should display. It does matter. Who lives?
or dies does matter. The future does matter. I mean, I don't say this often about Tucker Carlson.
He's right. That is incredibly concerning. And I actually think he is telling the truth here about
his conversation with Donald Trump, which is also not something I say often about Tucker Carlson.
I think he is a liar for the most part. But after that conversation he had with Trump was really
the downfall of their relationship. Then he started to turn on Trump. And he's right that you really
don't want a leader, especially an American president who's about to launch a war, saying, well,
we're all going to die anyway. I mean, you really should be focused on the future and the consequences
of your actions. Now, maybe Donald Trump doesn't care, and that's probably the answer. You know,
he's 80 years old. He's going to be the oldest president, assuming he serves out his term in its
entirety, which, you know, maybe not, maybe, maybe not. But he will be the oldest president to ever hold
office. He is the oldest president to ever get elected. That,
maybe it's because of his age and he doesn't really care what comes next, which is really, really
selfish of him. But it's just not something you want to hear from the American president. And
Tucker Carlson in the same interview also called for Donald Trump to be removed from office because
he threatened nuclear war, saying he should have been removed from office as soon as he did that.
Should he be removed from office if you believe, as you've said, that he effectively betrayed the
country? He should be removed. He should have been removed from office immediately when he threatened
nuclear war, threatening the offensive use of nuclear weapons, which is to say threatening the
destruction of humanity.
Okay, what about the war in Iran then?
It's enough for me to say he should be removed from office.
He should have been removed from office by his own cabinet secretaries the moment he threatened
a nuclear attack.
You're talking now about the 25th Amendment where a majority of the cabinet.
That's correct.
Yeah.
He should have been bundled up and taken out.
That's a crime.
There's no greater crime.
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I'm than that.
You think of all the people you know who go to judge.
jail for violating Farah or cheating on their taxes. Here you have a guy threatening to eliminate
the human race. And that's not considered a crime. It tells you how deranged our moral scale
has become. So he should be removed from office for threatening first use nuclear strike.
This is the first time I think Tucker Carlson has ever said that, or at least in this way,
that he thinks Donald Trump should get removed from office. And may I remind everybody?
Because, you know, people like Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Green, when they talk about
about Trump, I'm glad that they have turned on him. I'm really, really glad. It shows like the MAGA
fracture and I want the Republicans to be divided. It gives us a better chance of victory and that's my
main focus, getting Democrats into office so we can actually get this country back on track.
But when Marjorie Taylor Green and Tucker Carlson speak about this, you almost get the vibe of them
saying like, well, I told you so. Like Marjorie Taylor Green in a video we talked about on the
show the other day saying, you know, this is what you get MAGA. It's like, guys, you voted for
him not once, not twice, but three times. You campaign for him not once, not twice, but three times.
You guys are responsible for putting all of us, the country, the world, in this position. You
own some of that responsibility. And so I'm always glad to see MAGA voters being like, I got it
wrong, but they can never be like, I told you so, because we told them so. You know what I mean?
I just noticed that when they speak about these things. But Tucker Carlson is right. I mean,
Donald Trump should have been removed from office for a variety of reasons, to be clear. But
especially with the war with Iran, especially threatening nuclear strikes and threatening to genocide
Iran, yeah, I think that's grounds for removal. And to be clear, Donald Trump has threatened to
nuke Iran. This is what he said in the Oval Office recently. And there's really no other way to
interpret this other than him wanting to use a nuke. Volatile world. And the military equipment,
the power of some of this weaponry is unthinkable. You don't even want to know about it.
Oh, you could end this thing in two seconds if you wanted to.
I mean, what else could he be talking about?
You know, because these ballistic missiles, these cruise missiles or drones that we use in the Middle East, and just war generally, those are not enough to end a conflict like that unless you have like a billion of them, you know, being hyperbolic.
But like, what else could it be talking about here?
He's obviously talking about the ultimate weapon, that being a nuclear weapon.
And he's not the only time he has done that.
the other day at the UN when he was sitting in a roundtable with different Middle Eastern leaders,
many of these people, authoritarian, might I add, he kind of alluded to using a nuclear weapon as well.
Look, it's going to go one way or the other. It's either we're going to make a deal or it's going to
end very, very quickly. It'll end very so quickly your head will spin. So it'll end so quickly,
your head will spin. Once again, how else are we supposed to interpret this? How are you going to
end it so quickly that somebody's head would spin?
How do you get from A to B?
And that solution seems to be a nuclear weapon, or at least Donald Trump is kind of alluding
to that in these statements.
He's also, of course, just threatened to straight up genocide Iran.
Like, you know, I have, I dislike the Iranian government and their leaders, their
theocratic lunatics who abuse and kill their own people even when they protest, no matter what,
they just are awful leaders.
But there are millions and millions of innocent people in Iran who don't like the government
and don't like this war.
And why do they deserve to be put in?
in the fire of all of this.
But Donald Trump saying at the UN the other day,
do I annihilate the Islamic Republic of Iran,
drive them into hell with no hope for generations?
That's genocide.
That sounds like you want to use a nuclear weapon.
And that is not rhetoric that you should be using
as the president of the United States and not at the United Nations,
which is there for diplomacy,
which is there for countries to work together.
Donald Trump over here,
the American president saying,
should I just annihilate a whole country and give them no hope for generations?
And, you know, it really doesn't help that the,
partner in crime for Donald Trump, Netanyahu in this war, who helped bring the United States into it,
has been a partner in bombing Iran, is also like out of his goddamn mind. You know, he spoke at the
UN, he said devastating Iran's nuclear facilities was hard, very hard to do, but for me it was one of the
easiest decisions I've ever had to make because if we hadn't done it, we'd all be dead.
That sounds pretty crazy. Netanyahu thinks we'd all be dead right now if it weren't for him and Trump.
I mean, these two men are the most self-centered, narcissistic, egotistical, evil leaders that we have seen, at least in modern American history and in our relationship with Israel over time.
I think that is a fair thing to say.
And it's also especially disgusting because we know for a fact that there was no change in Iran's nuclear program or Iran's missile program broadly before the war.
Our own intelligence said that.
Tulsi Gabbard, when she was a member of the Trump administration, said that under oath that they had no reason to.
to believe that Iran was close to a nuclear weapon.
They hadn't made the political decision to pursue one.
They didn't have the facilities to pursue one.
There was no evidence of it.
And yet you have Donald Trump and Netanyahu threatening nuclear weapon.
Donald Trump is threatening Iran with what he says they're threatening us with.
And Netanyahu is saying, well, despite this reporting, despite American intelligence, we'd all
be dead right now.
And it really doesn't help that the Republican Party, all of these people who are meant to be
representing the people are doing the opposite and they're voting to extend Donald
Trump's war.
This is a headline.
that people should really take into the midterms.
As one of their last votes before the midterm elections,
Republicans blocked an effort to end the Iran war.
They blocked it, just like that.
The overwhelming majority of Republican senators
blocking an effort to end this war.
They're not voting on affordability.
They're not voting on bringing down gas prices
or policy that's going to make my life better, your life better.
They're voting on extending Donald Trump's war.
Like, you know, corrupt party, morally bankrupt party top down, top down.
And Tucker Carlson, number one, leaking this conversation.
is a good thing. And number two, turning on Donald Trump in this way, calling for his removal,
and being honest about the conversation he had with Trump in the Oval Office, positive. I'm happy to
hear it, even though he's still crazy and I still think he's out of his goddamn mind. But anyway,
I will leave the video there. Thank you so much for watching. Please make sure to subscribe down below,
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