The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 01/05/2021 - Best of The Herd

Episode Date: January 5, 2021

Colin thinks things are getting a little too noisy in Philadelphia and they’re turning into an east coast version of the Cowboys. He also made the case why Jason Garrett would be a great fit with Justin Herbert and the Chargers. Plus, Peter King with the latest on the head coaching vacancies. Bills CB Josh Norman comes on to explain his love for QB Josh Allen and why they won’t be overconfident vs Indianapolis. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Heard. This is the best of the herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Ah, it is a Tuesday, and we can't wait. We are packed today. Live in Los Angeles, this is The Hurd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we're on Fox Sports Radio, IHeart Radio, and FS1, one hour from now, our top 10, our final top 10, of the regular season.

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Let's start with that. You would never go to a restaurant three straight times, get bad service, have spotty food, and go, that's a, well-run restaurant. You would never go to a car dealership and buy three straight cars and their lemons and saying, that is really a well-run car dealership. But there's a weird thing about sports and loyalty and you put the city's name on the

uniform. And let's be honest about the Philadelphia Eagles. And we sort of predicted this, didn't we? They couldn't handle a little success. We've all had the loser brother-in-law, co-worker family member. a little lettuce job promotion. Two years later, they're a bigger mess than they've ever been. A lot of lottery winners end up selling off the time shares and jet skis now, don't they?

Philadelphia is now just Dallas, but has worse weather. They're just loud. This morning I was doing a loud meter in the NFL for our TV audience, and there is a striking similarity between the louder the teams, the more they underachieve. Jets, cowboys, brown. Eagles. Yes, the Steelers have been loud for several years, got quieter this year, but they've underachieved. And the quietest teams in the league, what a shock. Buffalo, Baltimore,

for most of the New England dynasty for the record. You didn't hear a lot of stories breaking. It was the very end when it unraveled that you did. For all the stars Tampa Bay Buccaneers have, Gronk and Brady Antonio Brown, they've got all Mike Evans, all sorts of stars. The only one we ever hear of is Bruce Ariens talks about once every two. weeks and we have to comment on it. They're pretty quiet. Let's just move the Philadelphia Eagles from well-run operation to loud operation. Here's the latest story. Multiple players were shocked and outraged that Doug Peterson, the coach, benched Jalen Hertz in the middle of a competitive game. One player, offensive starter, Jason Kelsey, questioned the coach directly

on the stunning decision. According to this story, the owner or the GM, Howie Roseman, may have ordered the benching of Jalen Hertz to get somebody involved from the bench to tank and get a better draft spot. God, this is just the classic.

They had a little success and they couldn't handle it. Everybody got a book deal, a car dealership deal, everybody got a movie roll, everybody was at the parade, drank a little too much, hung over for the last three years.

because this is what Philadelphia is. It's funny, New England had a dynasty for 20 years. And they were adults the whole time. Philadelphia won a Super Bowl. They started lecturing everybody on how to win. Remember that? You got to have fun in this league. Not really.

You got to win in this league. That's what New England did for 20 years. You did one year. Since the Super Bowl, here's what Philadelphia is. A losing team. 22 wins, 25 losses, and a tie. That's in a bad division. that's not in the NFC West or the AFC South with all those quarterback.

That's in a division where Washington and the Giants in Dallas have had chaos. Just say this out loud. Last three years. Losing team, a lot of noise, quarterback controversy, and no cap space next year. Sound like a good restaurant? If I said, bad menu, terrible service, a lot of complaints with a health board, sound like a well-run restaurant? If I said bad service department, lots of lemons,

weak sales staff, sound like a good car dealership? Philadelphia is Dallas with worse weather. That's what they've become. Cap space issues. I mean, the last time they drafted a pro bowler was Carson Wentz. And now he doesn't like the organization. What a mess. Doug Peterson taking his future star quarterback, Jalen Hurts,

pulling them out of a winnable game so that he can get a third stringer reps. By the way, I heard this yesterday on Sports Talk Radio. My ears were bleeding. Some guy called a Sports Talk Radio station. You know, they put in Nate Sudfeld to just get a spark. What? He'd been at practice for three years.

If you're an NFL head coach, practice lets you know who can play, not just games. If you thought Nate Sudfeld was going to give you some dynamic athletic spark over Jalen Hertz, you should be fired for that. For that alone, Philadelphia. All right. So, you know, Warren Buffett's a legendary stock picker in America. He's one of the most successful.

And his whole theory is by value. When stuff's beaten down and everybody no longer wants it, that's when you go in and buy it. It works that way in real estate. A lot of the richest people, you know, recessions are garage sales for the rich and well prepared. Stuff gets beaten down, loses its value, but it's still at its core principle very solid. That's when you buy it. So Jason Garrett's interviewing for the Chargers job, and I can just hear it today. I went on Twitter for five minutes. Oh, my God. And a bunch of no-nothings on Twitter. We're telling you how bad Jason Garrett was. Let me just throw this at you. Jason Garrett's

winning percentage is 56% in the NFL. Bill Parcells is 57. And, and And Jason Garrett did it with a meddling owner and his two quarterbacks. One was undrafted and one went in the fourth round. Sound like a guy who can't coach? A Princeton grad from the Ivy League, a former NFL quarterback with three division titles, with an undrafted quarterback, a fourth round quarterback, and a meddling owner. What Jason Garrett needs is a new PR person. He doesn't need to be a better coach.

Here's Jason Garrett. here's Jason Garrett's offensive ranks as coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Nine years. Points per game, sixth. Yards per game sixth. Passer rating sixth. Yards per play, second. You're telling me that guy can't coach?

By the way, he had constant drama, Jerry drama, Dez drama, Zeech drama. I mean, it's a turn style of, of, of, of, of, outspoken players, holdout. First of all, it's hard to coach the Dallas Cowboys. Texas is a state that loves football, has unrealistic expectations, and there's a lot of money and egos. It's why the Texas Longhorns and the Dallas Cowboys always seem to be changing coaches. They look like the world's best jobs, but with Longhorns and with the Cowboys in this

glamorous, well-heeled state. It's very attractive, right? You'd fly into Dallas. You see nine high school football stadiums. They look like colleges. Football's big. There's expectations. There's lots of ego.

There's lots of money. Longhorns can never quite get the program right. There's a reason. Unrealistic expectations. They just fired a coach who had his same record as Davos-Sweeney four years at Houston. Or four years at Clemson. First four years at Clemson. First four years at Texas.

Dabo and Tom Herman, same record. The difference is Tom Herman, four and Owen Bowls, Davo 2 and 2. Cowboys are hard to coach. They've had the first 33 years of their existence. They had two coaches, Jimmy Johnson and Tom Landry. And everybody's compared to those two. And everybody in Dallas hates their coach,

not named Tom Landry or Jimmy Johnson. They didn't even like Parcells, who's a top five coach in my lifetime. They don't have a real general manager. They don't have a real president. Jerry's the owner. Jerry's the GM. Jerry's the president.

You think this is easy to coach? I'll say it again. Jason Garrett, look at his offensive numbers for the last nine years. Now he gets Justin Herbert, a capable real GM. The Spanos family are non-meddling owners. They don't spend the big money like Jerry, but they don't meddle. And for the record, I don't think it's outside of playing Mahomes a couple times a year.

there's a lot of dysfunction in that organization. So this reminds me a less miles. Everybody, everybody bagged on less miles. So LSU fires less miles, who's winning 10 and a half games a year because he can't beat Nick Sabin. By the way, nobody in the SEC can beat Nick Sabin. Maybe nobody in the country can beat Nick Sabin except occasionally Clemson. So they fire him, and now they got Ed Orsra. He won a national title and won 77% of his games.

They fire him because he's a little quirky. Well, they hire Ed Orsra on. who's even quirkier, and he win 76% of his games. And I predict he won't be there in a year. Like at some point, Les Miles and Jason Garrett just need better PR people. But they can both coach. You win 10 games a year in the SEC.

You're a good coach. But everybody in the SEC can't beat Sabin. Everybody's firing everybody. The history of LSU football, they win on average about nine games. Les Miles won 10, won a national title, beat Sabin a couple times. Out the door.

So I'm telling you, as a value stock, Jason Garrett with Justin Herbert, you don't have a lot of ego. They have a real GM, non-meddling owner, Justin Herbert, all sorts of stars. This idea that Jason Garrett can't coach is silly. I mean, say what you want, but his first year with Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones got better at the end of the year. And Daniel Jones is not great, but he got a lot better, stopped all the turnovers. It's crazy. sometimes some of these coaches need better PR people. They're fine.

There's just some like thing out there. Oh, they can't coach. Oh, they just this. The Roonies with the Pittsburgh Steelers, Bill Cowher and Mike Tomlin have had a lot of disappointing seasons together. A lot of drama and a lot of disappointing seasons. But they just don't fire them. I mean, let me ask you, you watch the Dallas Cowboys this year. First year without Jason Garrett.

Did they look better coached? You tell me. Did they look better coached? Not the team I saw. That's not what I saw. Coming up next, Joe Judge of the Giant said something yesterday, but it's not even what he said. Well, it is kind of what he said.

But he stole a page from somebody he knows very well, Nick Saban. It's brilliant. It's what smart politicians do. It's what Nick Saban does. It's really brilliant. Not just what he does. said, but when he said it, and I'll talk about that coming up.

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Joe Judge yesterday ripped the Philadelphia coach Doug Peterson. But in the process of doing that, that's what everybody in the media is going to see and talk about. but it's much greater than that. So Ben McAdoo and Pat Shermer are not terrible coaches. They're weak culture creators. When Barry Alvarez took over Wisconsin, literally it was one of the worst five college football programs in the country. Now it's one of the best 10.

He's now the athletic director. He did not change the locker rooms. He said, no. love our locker rooms. We're going to learn to love ourselves. That was the culture change. It was about Wisconsin football. It wasn't about fancy stuff.

We should be proud of who we are. It's a state that produces good high school football, good college football, be proud of who we are. And Pat Shermer and Ben McAdoo, I don't know if they're bad coaches. They're very good coordinators. But they were never able to create a culture. That's what Brian Flores has done in Miami. It's what Sean McDermott. done in Buffalo. It's what Sean McVeigh changed the culture in with the L.A. Rams, not just the

playbook. So Joe Judge, it appears to me, is very good at culture creation. He's coached with Belichick and Nick Saban, two of the all-time greats. So when Judge comes out to criticize Doug Peterson, what it is is an opportunity that he uses brilliantly to spread his gospel about what the Giants are all about. There's a number of sacrifices been made by all the players and coaches in this league. There's a number of sacrifices that come along as well with the family members and the people connected to them. To disrespect the effort that everyone put forward to make this season a success for the

National Football League, to disrespect the game by going out there and not competing for 60 minutes and doing everything you can to help those players win, we will never do that as long as I'm the head coach in New York Giants. that's not just about criticizing the Eagles. He is defining to free agents. He is defining to his locker room. I'm here for you. The best I've ever seen at it is Nick Saban.

We sort of laugh at it, but two to three times a year, Nick Saban finds an opportunity to recruit to the nation without visiting your home. He'll find a crevice, an opportunity. He'll go to the podium and he'll spread his gospel. He did it a couple years ago. It's my favorite bit about a player he used to coach at Michigan State. I'm going to give a speech right now about this. Like, where do you want him to be?

Guy makes a mistake. Where do you want him to be? You want to be in the street? Or do you want them to be here graduating? You know, when I was over there at the Nogerski, Moussin Muhammad, who played 15 years for the Carolina Panthers, played for me at Michigan State. Everybody in the school, every newspaper guy, everybody was killing a guy because he got in trouble and said there's no way he should be on our team.

I didn't kick him off the team. I suspended him. I made him do stuff. He graduated from Michigan State. He played 15 years in the league. He's a president of a company now. And he has seven children and his oldest daughter goes to Princeton. So who is right?

That wasn't just about the player. That was talking to every mom and dad in North America who has a really good football player. You come to Alabama, I'll be tough on him, but I'll support him if he makes a mistake. Because you're asking him to go 800 miles from home. And mom and dad wonder, what if our son makes a mistake? The smart coaches, Sabin wouldn't just walk to a podium and talk about that story without an opportunity. Joe Judge wouldn't go out and just talk about how Grady is as a coach in his culture or Blas Peterson without an opportunity. The really smart coaches and leaders in this country see these little openings and they go to the microphone and guys like me talk about it for hours.

They get hundreds of millions of YouTube and Facebook views and they're defining publicly their culture. That's Nick Saban recruiting to America. without having to visit any state, without having to leave his office. It's free recruiting, an unbelievable message. And Joe Judge on the free agent market, spreading his gospel. That's why he'll win,

Shermer McAdoo didn't. They could coach. They couldn't spread the gospel. They didn't have the ability, at least at this point in their career, to create a culture. And that's what I see Joe Judge doing. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd,

weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Peter King, brought to you by Mercedes-Benz, the best or nothing, joining us, NBCSports.com. Hall of Fame voter since 1992, and Peter King is joining us. You know, I said to start the show, what Jason Garrett needs is a better PR person because he won 56% of his games, parcells at 57. And you can say what you want about Jason Garrett, who reportedly is up for the Chargers job. But we do this all the time. We just bail on people. And I'm like, timeout.

Meddling owner, three-division-tiles. titles. By the way, we went and gave you stats for nine years, number two in yards per play in the NFL. I don't know. I look at Jason Garrett with the Spanos's Tom Telesco and Justin Herbert. I'm not sure you can do better. Am I wrong? I don't think that's a bad fit at all. I don't think it's a bad fit, but, you know, look, the Chargers are casting a wide net. You know, I think a lot of times when people say, oh, Chargers want to interview Jason Garrett, Chargers want to hire Jason Garrett. I don't think that's the case at all.

I think they want to fact find about Jason Garrett, and then they'll decide whether he's going to be on their very short list. The fact that he's getting an interview, I think is very encouraging for him, but I don't take interview lists as being very important at this time of year. because look, I think it's the Jaguars are attempting to interview five different general managers, or it might be six. You know, the Falcons have cast a very wide net, both in GM and now coming up in coaches. So I don't know, we'll see what happens.

Usually I like to see who gets the second interview. You know, two years ago, the Browns interviewed a bunch of people, and then Freddie Kitchens and Kevin Stefansky got the second interviews. And it was very, very close division in the organization. And they hired Freddie Kitchens. So, you know, I want to see if somebody gets a second interview. So I saw Chris Mortensen. We both know him, respect him well.

He said he'd never gotten more feedback about what happened during an NFL game, negative feedback than what Doug Peterson did. The one thing I didn't like is I do believe that Jalen Hertz, I thought it would have been a nice come from behind win for him against the potential playoff team. I think for young quarterbacks, those instances, those opportunities are rare. I didn't like them pulling him. There's also the league integrity stuff.

Joe Judge fired back. What did your sources say? What did your people say the reaction to Doug Peterson benching Jalen Hertz and a winnable game became an unwinnable game? I haven't talked to anybody who said they thought it was. a good decision. There are sometimes clearly, look, they love, in that organization, they love Nate Sudfeld. You know, going back to 2017, 2018, he's always been a very trusted backup soldier. So now in a meaningless game, Doug Peterson wanted to do him a solid and give him some time.

And I get that. The biggest problem is this is you've got two teams in the NFL who are, the precipice of making the playoffs. And I don't want to hear anybody say, oh, they got bad records. I don't care if they're one in 15. You know, they were both on the verge of making the playoffs. And Doug Peterson put a guy in the game who hasn't played football in 105 weeks or in a football game. And I just thought it was terrible.

If there is anything like an unwritten honor code among code. among coaches in the NFL, he broke it. Yeah. Are you, you know, in basketball, we've seen it multiple times where LeBron James not only goes to an organization and they win, but the organization he leaves unravels. Brady just did a LeBron where New England lacks some offensive personnel. I'm almost shocked, Peter, how they went 12 and 4 last year and how in God's name they were a top 10 offense. has the divorce been as, I don't even think I can get my arms quite around how good Brady has been with no OTAs in the preseason camp. The dire consequences for New England and the elevation, Tampa's now an eight-point playoff favorite.

Are you a little shocked by how pro- Brady this divorce went? Well, Colin, I think you're assuming that if Brady stayed in New England, they'd have won 11 games and found a way into the playoffs. I don't necessarily think that. The New England Patriots, it's either one, two, or three have either the worst second or third worst skill position group in the NFL. That's Bill Belichick's fault. Bill Belichick, the general manager. When I sat with Brady one year ago last night after the wild card loss to Tennessee, I just,

you know, he was just despondent, despondent. And he was, you know, he was, he said all the right things, all the right things. But you could just tell, okay, you could just tell watching him, watching his body language, he was disgusted with what had happened in New England. And I think now in retrospect, as I look back on that night, that 10 minutes I spent with him that night, that was Tom Brady basically saying, I can't deal with no talent around me anymore. And, you know, there's a reason why, you know, the Bucks are eight-point favorites in a playoff game this weekend. Because the combination of Tom Brady still was something left

and a great skill position group, you're going to be a heavy favorite in a playoff game. So Kevin Stofansky is out coaching this week. It's starting to unravel Olivier Vernon's injury. Kevin Stafansky can't coach. You know, the good news in Cleveland never seems to last very long. It does feel like to me it makes Pittsburgh a prohibitive favorite. You tell me, how fluid could a situation be with no head coach on the sideline, especially a new guy. He's not Belichick. He doesn't have the same coordinators for nine years. This just feels like doomed to me. Am I hyperbolic here? I mean, it's not good, especially you're playing on the road. You're playing against a team that has had your number over the years.

in the Steelers. And this was a two-point win at home against Mason Rudolph against that team. And a two-point conversion away maybe from playing in overtime. And now you're playing Ben Rothesberger, who was on the couch on Sunday. And so he'll be rested and ready to go in this game. And I guess the way I look at it, Colin, is I could see the Brown's winning this game. But everything has to go well. And the one name you didn't mention, Joel Betonio, the guard who's also going to be out with a positive COVID test.

Yep. About two hours ago, I finished filling out my Associated Press All-Pro ballot. Joel Betonio is my left guard. And so that's not just any loss. That's a loss of one of the best players on the team. So it isn't just the coach. It's the loss of a very difficult to replace player. By the way, finally, Urban Meyer to Jacksonville rumors are hot and heavy.

Do you buy him? What do you think of that? I mean, it strikes me because I know that Shot Khan has got a pretty tight circle around him. It strikes me that somebody in Myers camp wittingly or unwittingly, you know, got this out. And look, Colin, I'll just say the same thing. I would love to interview Urban Meyer for an NFL head coaching vacancy, but I would probably spend the majority of my time in the interview saying you left coaching for various reasons at age 45, 46, and 54. You know, why should we think that you won't be another Nick Sabin?

A guy who came in to save the dolphins and 23 months later is asking Wayne Heisenga to be let out of his contract. because he's miserable. So I, you know, and Colin, this guy has been a great coach on the college level, Urban Meyer. He's never been less than three games over 500 in any year he's ever coached. And I just would ask this question, you know, how are you going to like losing in Jacksonville? And I'm not saying you can't win in Jacksonville, you can. But you will undergo significant days. and weeks and maybe months of losing.

That's just the way it is. Can you take that? Are you ready for that? And are you in for four or five or six years at least? Or at the first sign of two and fourteen, are you out? Yeah. Great. It's really legitimate points.

And I know Urban well and I love him. But the other thing that worries me a little bit is that, you know, Tom Coughlin was a wide receiver coach in the NFL for years. Then he went to college. Then he came back to the NFL. Same with Jim Harbaugh. He'd been a Raiders, like quarterback coach or receiver coach. Matt Rule had been in the NFL.

Urban's a college guy. Even Sabin, by the way, was with that Belichick staff in Cleveland. So he'd done some college. Right. Yeah, I do worry about when a guy's just strictly college. Then he goes to the NFL because, man, the game is different. The game is different. Rules are different.

It's frustrating. You can sit at Ohio State and Florida and have a great recruiting. class just as a matter of course. Yeah. In the NFL, nobody cares. You can draft Trevor Lawrence. But other than DJ Chark and James Robinson, can you put enough great players around of great players to win 10 to 12 games every year?

It's a challenge. Ask NFL coaches. Yeah. Ask Bella check this year, NBCSports.com, Peter Kring. Great seeing you on a Tuesday, Peter. Thanks. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart Radio app.

Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Hurd hierarchy. Time is now. Let's go. The top 10 NFL teams, according to college. Number 10. Well, I left a lot of good teams out, but I'm going to give Cleveland number 10. And the reason being is Kevin Stefansky in this offensive line.

Now, they have a negative point differential. You're not going to win playoff games with a negative point differential. It's hard to get to the playoffs and have that. and they're the only playoff team of the 14 with that. So it tells you when they win it's narrow, when they lose, it's ugly. But their offensive line, which will now be missing their top guard, was the top rated. And I do think they do a good job mostly of masking their bad and young secondary

by controlling the line of scrimmage. So they are number 10. Number nine. Pittsburgh Steelers, and I've been rough on them all year. But I've always had a rule in the NFL. Here's how you win. a quarterback, protect him, and then get players who will attack their quarterback. And the Steelers right now have the fewest sacks taken in the NFL 14, and yet they have the most sacks

56 given, meaning they protect their quarterback and they get after yours. Quarterbacks that faced the Steelers this year had a passer rating of 76. That is astounding. So for all the running game issues I have, they protect their quarterback and they sack yours and that puts them at number nine. Number eight. Seattle is a very shaky number eight and a very shaky number three seed. First of all, Russell Wilson, two of the last three games, under 200 yards passing. They are struggling throwing the football.

Worst passing offense in the entire league over the last three weeks. Do they snap out of it? I certainly wouldn't want the playoffs to be a place where I find my passing game. Jamal Adams is now dinged up back into the secondary. There's so much I like about this team. I do not like where they're at. I don't like the Rams matchup, which is a ferocious defense, a great coach. And you just beat him a couple weeks ago so they know exactly what you do.

I think this is a possible upset by the Rams this weekend. Number seven. A team I haven't shown any love to. Finally, the Colts are in. Here's the thing, is that we know their defense and their coaching's good, but they couldn't really run the football, and that's what they have to do with Philip Rivers. And with no preseason, it took them forever to figure out their running game. They figured it out in the last month.

They've won six of eight. They figured out Jonathan Taylor spearheads behind this great offensive line or running game, and I think this is the key to them, is they take the ball away from Philip, who's pretty good on scripted plays in the first half, but if you ask him to be dynamic in the second, you're very limited. Jonathan Taylor, with no preseason, it took them until November, now into December, in January. I like the Colts at 7.

Number six. Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I am worried because they are one in five against playoff teams. We're not very good at night. Maybe Brady goes to bed early. But they are very good against the run. They take big chances defensively. I like that.

They're aggressive sometimes to a fault. And you can't deny that Tom Brady is hot. Antonio Brown, remember about four or five games? We couldn't figure out what he was. They figured out how to integrate him into the offense. When Ronald Jones is healthy, they have a very explosive running back. Brady's got 40 touchdown passes this year, the most in Buck's history. And let's be honest.

And you can't Bruce Ariens and Tom Brady have a lot of playoff experience. And that accounts for something. Number five. Baltimore. he sold their stock, I didn't. 200 plus rushing yards in four of their last five games. Only team in the NFL that averages more rushing

than passing yards. I'm okay with that because they have an identity. They know what they are. This year they're playing with no pressure. Don't tell me Lamar Jackson, who's younger than Joe Burrow, isn't getting better. He was better in the red zone this year. Every year, Lamar got a little bigger in year two. Now he's a little

better in the red zone. And every time I show highlights of Lamar Jackson, he's throwing touchdown passes. Don't tell me can't throw. Doesn't throw like Justin Herbert. It doesn't throw like Kyler Murray. But don't tell me he can't throw. He can and situationally, I think this team is a nightmare because you cannot duplicate them at practice all week with Lamar's special talent. Number four. Kansas City, my eyes tell me something's not right. Yes, they're four and all against playoff teams. So I know they've got the ability to pop. But folks, Mahomes, four straight games with a passer rating under a hundred

longest of his career. They're the worst red zone defense. They don't run the ball consistently. And I just don't feel they're playing particularly well right now. There's something doesn't look right to me. And it can be running back health. Mahomes maybe is not 100%. There's something not meshing on this offense.

They've become very dependent on the big explosive play. And those are harder to get against better teams and coaches and rosters. playoffs. Number three. Green Bay Packers. They did answer the physicality question this year with Tennessee. They don't beat themselves. They have the fewest giveaways in the NFL. They don't get penalized much. They don't give you the ball, so you have to beat them. And they play, they're a great team with a lead. Because with Aaron Jones and play action, you don't want to fall behind against Green Bay. And frankly, that's what everybody's doing. Because Matt LaFleur, he did it last year as a rookie. And this year, too, very good on script. He's very good at dialing up plays and scripting the first 15 in the game and they take leads and they're hard to beat because they've got at times a pretty decent pass rush Packers 3.

Number two. Saints, best roster in the NFL. 20 plus points in 24 straight games. We talk about the Chiefs offense, but actually this one's actually more consistent. Just the weapons. Alvin Kamara and Drew Brees and Taysam Hill and Michael Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders. But it's the defense. that's amazing. Top five in scoring, rushing, past defense. This is really a story of defense, even with all those weapons. And again, I get Sean Peyton Drew Brees experience in the postseason. Number one. Third four straight week Buffalo Bills. I'm just going to give you a little something to simmer on for you chief fans. They're the first team in the NFL to win their last three games by over 25 points entering the playoffs. Since the 96 Packers who won the the Super Bowl. When you're good and you're on fire, you are no fun to play. They can attack you from any angle. Stefan Diggs was the best wide receiver. Alan looks like the best quarterback in the

league. They're protecting him. They can run when they need to. They're excellent situationally on defense late in games. What they did to Miami was jaw dropping. Everybody struggled against Miami's Defense, they dropped a 50 burger on them for the third, maybe four straight week. I think Buffalo, the Bills, and the Bills Mafia number one team in the NFL, and that's where we stand today. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

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And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense.

And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He run up the court licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Big Money Players and IHeart Podcast

Presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne. This is my best friend Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later. We're still joined at the hip.

Just a little bit bigger hips. Wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drink. Sidebar.

Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Well, then you got it. Do you want a white collar or something here? Just take it. What are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would.

Come on. How did you move? I would buy it. Cut through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You are.

I'm lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the I Heart Radio. Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, Josh Norman, great player down in Carolina. And one of the coaches on that staff was Sean McDermott, the defensive coordinator. McDermott goes to Buffalo, gets the head coaching job, calls Josh Norman, says,

get up here. We got something good going. And Josh Norman used to work with us at Fox now is joining us live from Buffalo. I believe, and I've said it for a month, the best team in the NFL. So let's start with this. You've been to a Super Bowl. You've been in the playoffs. Half of your roster or more has not.

You've got some young kids. What have you told the younger players about the difference between a regular season game and the playoffs, Josh? It's go time. It really is go time. It's a different mindset. You know, coming into the playoffs is taking another notch up from where you're playing in the regular season. so obviously everything is much more heightened this is literally where late

legends are you know born and made during this time you've spent a lot of things in the playoffs and so therefore you have to take it that much more pressing in your details and your approach to your assignments so you'd seen Josh Allen and then you come up to Buffalo and when he first broke into the league he was a little wild

he was a big kid running around and all of a sudden this year, wow. When was the first player the first moment? Maybe it was early in the season that you watched Josh Allen and you were facing him in practice or something, and you thought, oh, wow, this kid is something special. Just seeing his arm, you know, coming in from the draft, I think just watching him and how he was able to sling the ball.

I mean, the guy has got a cannon. Release is so quick. So it's almost like it's like a dart like. But, you know, watching him from afar and then coming into the building and seeing how he approached the game, he's just getting better and better every year. This year, he just went off. You had a guy like, you know, digs and smoke and, you know, Cole Beasley in the slot and see what you can do.

And he has those weapons now, and he's, I'm talking about gun slinging the ball everywhere. Yeah. And it's amazing to see. It really is. It's a beauty. You know, Josh, you've always been the guy that you have to go out and guard the best receiver. So there's a lot of good receivers. There's small guys who are quick.

There's big guys who are physical. There's fast guys. Stefan Diggs is probably the best receiver this morning in the NFL. So what makes him great? Why is he hard to defend? What separates him from guys you've guarded? His craft, he's a craftman of his work. very meticulous and detailed in how he sets this opponents up.

I mean, his steps are just like crossovers. And it's like he's playing basketball out there on the football field. He's very twitchy, very twitchy. And he's deceptive speed. Like the guy can, like he believes he is the fastest guy on the field that day. Whether you want to think that or not, how he plays is, definitely not his time on his 40-yard dash. I bet he's faster than what he ran. I guarantee you that because he's electric every time he, you know, touches the ball. I mean, he set offenders up. And he's

so much so gracious of the awards that he is going to be receiving this year. And he has so far breaking all these records. I'm just part of, I'm just glad to be a part of, you know, the team with this guy. I'm going against him kind of every day and doing different mirror drills and stuff. He's very much so impressive in his approach to the game. And every time he steps on the field. You know, you were with Washington and there was a lot of chaos. Washington's a noisy franchise. There's a lot of stuff happening. Ownership. And then you go to Buffalo and it's a small city and it's quiet and McDermott's quiet. You never hear him. And I, you know, you probably as a kid never thought, I'm going to love playing in Buffalo. But, you know, you know, you probably, you

You're a perfect fit. It works. I mean, are you surprised that you ended up in Buffalo? You know, I always said that this would be the last team I would ever complain for it. I was not thought I would be here. It's cold. My life's cold. But it's almost like you make plans for yourself and God laughs at them.

Right. I always finds a way to laugh at those plans because look at me now. I'm in the last place I thought I would be in Buffalo. But it has truly turned out to be one of the best places I've ever been. And I'm not just saying that because I'm here. I'm honestly like saying that because it's true. I mean, it's a lot of hidden gems here in Buffalo. And when you sit back here and you look at it all and how much we've been able to help the community

with the Buffalo business splits we're doing out here, helping small businesses and just going around and getting the warmth from the people and how excited it is about this football team. It's something to actually live in and go through doing this time. So I'm excited for the future and going forth for what this team has and what it has to offer. So it's been great. Finally, you are favored over the Colts. Do you worry at all that the team, Buffalo, you'll be a little tight. You're the favorite.

You're supposed to win. How do you keep the team loose? because loose teams are confident teams in the playoffs? Absolutely. Just because you favorite, it means nothing. It means absolutely nothing. We have to play the game, and we have to go out there and put our best foot forward.

I mean, you go back to what D.C. says. He always come out there, less razor out of D.C. What's the most important game of the week this one? It's this game. this one not last week not the week we looking down no it's this week and so we have to take care of our business we have to go through the proper steps each and every day of getting our work done and then when it's sunday comes or saturday which is this week we have to go out there and put on a show and and i always like to say the sunday best but we're going to have to put on our Saturdays best because we really

have a good team that's coming into this stadium and they're going to put them their best effort because I'm hearing. I know they're hearing a lot of noise and talking about how good we are and how this, but nobody's really giving them that, you know, props and praise at this point. But that's when those people come in and that opponent and they have an upset. And we don't feel like that is going to happen because of how we approach the game. But we always got to have that key in the backer our head. It's like, hey, we got to take care of us, not worry about nothing else. Josh Norman.

Pro Boulder, decade in the NFL. Good luck. I think you're part of the best team in the NFL. You're on fire. It is nice to win in the NFL. It just makes life a little smoother, driving to work a little easier. It's good to seeing you again, man. Congratulations.

Oh, man, thanks, God, man. It absolutely makes life a whole lot better out here. Definitely in this weather. I love it, though. Thanks, man. Thanks. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends.

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I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, and on my new podcast, How Hard Can It Be? I call on my Gen X squad from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate Midlife's most fantastic BS. Unfiltered conversations from night sweats to futas to scheduling sex. Wait, what sex? Is it just me or does every woman my age want to look at Pinterest instead of having sex sometimes?

They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears, or tears of laughter. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Deanna Maria Riva on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments.

If we didn't talk ever again, I was calling it. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis keep coming to him. He's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs.

This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.