The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 01/13/2021 - Best of The Herd

Episode Date: January 13, 2021

-Stop protecting Kyrie Irving, he's a bad teammate-The Eagles have made their head coaching position undesirable-Dolphins players admit they aren't sold on Tua-Colin matches the top coaching candidate...s with every NFL opening-James Harden is the problem, he was given everythingGuest: Nick Wright, FS1's First Things FirstBreaks: 11:50.6, 33:17.4 Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:54 Great to have them on board. They're delivering sandwiches to the crew today, and we love that. Joy Taylor, how are you? I eat Jersey mics once a week. So this is great. Right by my house. Today they're free. Add Mike's Way, add yellow mustard.
Starting point is 00:03:09 It's a delicious lunch. So let's start the show with this. The basketball culture in America is different than the football culture. There are things I like about the basketball culture, and there are things I like about the football culture. I think I was raised more. my parents were more football culture than basketball culture. I did not get my way all the time.
Starting point is 00:03:29 So the Kyrie Irving situation now is a full-blown mess in Brooklyn. I never thought it would work, but this is not about me being right or wrong. He's not shown up for multiple games. He won't be here for the rest of the week. What it really fascinates me is notice Steve Nash, the coach, walking on eggshells. Notice the media walking on eggshells. the Brooklyn General Manager, the Commissioner, walking on eggshells. There's videos, massless, Kyrie.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Last night on a political call, I don't like what happened in the Capitol either. We all got to go to work. Walking on eggshells. That, of course, is the basketball culture. Shoe companies, AAU coaches, the commissioner, coddling, worshipping basketball stars. So, of course, they think they can just take time off and be bad teammates. maybe we should stop babying narcissistic behavior. James Harden pointing fingers.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Excuse me, Houston did a marvelous job to build a roster around you. Three years ago, I thought it was the second best roster in the league, PJ Tucker and Chris Ball and James Hardin and Clint Capella. And they had a basketball coach built for you and a GM that was like an Ivy League guy. And James Hardin couldn't make any of it work. He didn't want to play defense. he wouldn't change his style and nobody ever said anything
Starting point is 00:04:54 because ooh he's a basketball star in the NFL it's different Antonio Brown was a bad teammate he got destroyed by the NFL media look at how the Kyrie Irving situation is being handled everybody's afraid to calm him out folks he's a bad teammate
Starting point is 00:05:12 what example do you need beyond Boston where the stories are legendary I made one call last night for three minutes was told the stories in Boston are outrageous, but they don't want to make them public because then players won't want to come to Boston. I've been watching the NBA for 40 years. Boston always gets players. Every decade they win a title, it feels like.
Starting point is 00:05:36 And then Kevin Durant, by the way, now he has a teammate that's bailed on him, which is just unfortunate because Kevin's a remarkable talent. But when Kevin left the Warriors, I said it at the time, would somebody stop him, please? Would somebody shake Kevin Durant? You're leaving Steph Curry, one of the most selfless superstars I've ever seen to Kyrie Irving, who's a bad teammate. Did anybody tell Kevin, Kevin, shoe company, agent, what are you doing? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:06:07 That would be like Patrick Mahomes saying, I want to go play for the Jags. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that. People would step in. The commissioner would call him. Andy Reid would call him, coaches would call him, his agent would call him, shoe companies would call him. No, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that. But everybody coddled, Katie. The commissioner coddles the stars.
Starting point is 00:06:25 The general managers, the coaches, coddle the stars. NBA media is charm and soft. This is the basketball culture. So, of course, Kyrie thinks I can just be a bad teammate and not show up. You don't do that in the NFL. There was an understanding you are going into battle. And Patrick Mahomes not only loves his teammates, he buys those offensive linemen riding lawnmowers and golf bags and Rolex watches and steak dinners because we're all in it together.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And that's the culture of football in America. I need you and you need me. And the NBA culture for stars is I don't need anybody. It's fostered from AAU on. shoe companies, basketball coaches. I mean, look at how Kyrie's situation. Nobody will say a word. We're all petrified to alienate the star player.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Kevin Durant should still be in Golden State with Steph and Dremont and this terrific young talent, James Wiseman, and Clay would be back in a year. The Ubrae now is emerging. And Steve Kerr and Bob Myers, it's a wonderful basketball organization. And he left it. And nobody said, What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:07:49 Can you imagine Josh Allen wanting to leave Buffalo? Can you imagine Patrick Mahomes saying I'm out of here? There would be several obstacles. There would be a CBA that wouldn't allow it to happen. There would be people that would say, no, no, no, Patrick, don't implode your career. But people are petrified. This Houston situation, they gave him everything. Good God.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I was looking the other day. I have it in my note somewhere. Yeah, here was the roster three years ago in Houston. And by the way, they couldn't make it work. They had James Harden, Chris Paul, Clint Capella, Trevor Arisa, P.J.J. Tucker, Eric Gordon, Gerald Green, and a guard-friendly coach. They went and got him Dwight Howard, CP3, Westbrook, Wall. It doesn't work because of Hardin. It's not anybody.
Starting point is 00:08:39 They had the GM. They had the coach. They had the roster. They had the forwards. They had the tough guys. They had the veteran Chris Paul. Hardin didn't make it work. Nobody wants to say it. Nobody wants to call anybody out.
Starting point is 00:08:52 But this is what you get. Listen, Shaq once chose KD or Shaq once chose D Wade over Kobe. Right? And I didn't love that. But it was D. Wade committed to basketball. And it was Pat Riley. And it was the Miami Heat who had a history winning title. So I was like, don't love it.
Starting point is 00:09:10 But it is. The idea that KD chose, Kyrie over Steph. inexplicable. Nobody stopped him. Nobody called him out. And this morning, it's just a mess for everybody. It's too bad. Well, this is an interesting story. Lincoln Riley is a football coach at Oklahoma. And so far as I can tell, he is totally committed to Oklahoma. But he is, if he said tomorrow, I want to be an NFL coach, he'd be the golden goose. Everybody in the league would want him, right? You know, kind of the up and coming urban Meyer, right? Like he would be the guy. He has not said that. But according to now reports, Lincoln Riley is who the Philadelphia Eagles want.
Starting point is 00:09:49 And now suddenly, I would have thought this was a great job a year ago, great fit. But now it's not. Because now Doug Peterson is the third coach with a winning record to be fired after one bad year. And now we're finding out stories that Howie Roseman is crazy power hungry as the general manager. And this is a cautionary tale. The answer for, fans is always the same thing. Every city, every team, every franchise. Fire the coach. Fire him. Get rid of the coach. Coach, no good. Fire him. The problem is really good coaches have options and that creates an image of instability. Don't give you an example. Why is the Chargers the number one job right now? Now think about this. The Chargers is the job everybody wants.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Well, it's Justin Herbert. Well, I mean, Jackson. is going to get Trevor Lawrence. That's not considered a number one job. The reason it's a number one job, and the Spanosas aren't considered the richest owners or the most free agent-friendly owners. But it's considered a good job because they gave Anthony Lynn a job for four years.
Starting point is 00:10:58 He was a 500 coach, only went to the playoffs once, with a very good roster. And in fact, not only did he have a losing season this year, Anthony Lynn was 5 and 11 last year, with Philip Rivers and pro bowlers everywhere. And yet they brought him back. they brought him back. They said he's young, he's growing,
Starting point is 00:11:18 Phillips getting old. And so the Chargers, despite an ownership group, some question, despite an apathetic fan base, despite a losing record, it's viewed as a stable organization, and that is a job you would want.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Philadelphia is a Blue Blood franchise. This morning? You got a power-hungry, GM, an owner that admitted Monday, this guy did not deserve to be fired, but we fired him, it looks unstable. It looks a little bit like a hot mess. And so the answer should really, what you don't want to do is fire the coach. The New York Giants have a history of being a Blue Blood franchise.
Starting point is 00:12:08 They gave Tom Coughlin bad year after bad year after bad year. and what now that's not saying they hired the right coach after him but it did make the giants look redeemable and grown up the Chicago Bears this morning are retaining their general manager and their coach Ryan Pace and Matt Aggie whether you like them or not the message the vibe and all businesses send a vibe out a signal out and a message out to the marketplace the message it sends out to the Bears is, okay, ownership. I mean, the Bears, Joey and I would tell you, the Bears defense is good. The roster's not bad at all. If they had Tariq Cohen who got hurt, the offense would be better. I think they kind of whiffed on the Trubisky thing, but everybody has a right
Starting point is 00:12:57 to whiff on somebody, right? Belichick's whiff, I don't know, 100 times on wide receivers. But the messaging by the Bears this morning is stable, patient, another year, we're close, we're going to get this right. But everybody in Chicago wants to fire the GM and fire the coach. And the GM, again, I thought whiffed on the quarterback. But everybody sends signals. And in the last couple of days,
Starting point is 00:13:23 that Doug Peterson firing, and I got it. The Jalen Hurst thing was bad. But then the owner can't come out and say, he didn't deserve to be fired, but I'm firing him. And now I know the GM is crazy mad power hungry. I don't think this is a good job. If I'm Lincoln Riley, I'm like, nah, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:13:38 you. And I guess my point here is today, be very careful about always having this as an answer. Fire our coach. Philadelphia now has fired three coaches, all with winning records, two got to a Super Bowl, one won a Super Bowl, all because they had a bad year. One bad year. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all,
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Starting point is 00:15:55 Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because. of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack.
Starting point is 00:16:10 So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years
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Starting point is 00:17:26 on my new podcast, learn the hard way. Open your free, our heart radio app. Search learn the hard way and listen now. The Miami Dolphins are promising to evaluate the entire team, and some players have already evaluated Tua. According to a report in Miami, I'm going to read you this because I just got my hands on it. Tua, according to the GM and coach, with the starting quarterback next year, that caught the attention of at least three players within the team,
Starting point is 00:17:56 because they have told the Herald, the Miami Herald in recent days, They didn't see enough from two to promise him anything for next season. The players who spoke to the Herald anonymously to not suffer consequences said they're unimpressed with him. They were totally caught off guard with the comments and the commitment when he was named starter in the seventh game of the year. Players said they were concerned, although he was humble and a great kid and a great competitor, they were concerned in training camp that he didn't have any special qualities
Starting point is 00:18:29 and didn't think he would be ready for the year. They also said they don't see special traits in him beyond his accuracy. Oh my God, it's like we're watching the same games. They got frustrated, said the players. A defensive player said when Flores told the team Fitzpatrick would not be available for the season finale against Buffalo, players got frustrated, clearly thinking he was the better player. So this is what, this was my concern.
Starting point is 00:18:56 the Friday before two has started. I said, I liked him in college, but I'm watching Josh Allen and I'm watching Justin Herbert and I'm watching Burrow and I'm seeing Lamar and the league is moving. You've got to have some it here at that position beyond being accurate, which has never been the issue, and I didn't see it and I don't see it. So my first takeaway with the story is, number one, you can't lie to players. You can't fool players. Like guys figure out, you know, you can go to two basketball practice.
Starting point is 00:19:26 in the NBA. And guys know if it's a bad draft pick or a good draft pick. You can't fool players. They know who can play. That doesn't mean they should be general managers, but they understand who's got it and who doesn't. I've had several players on this show through the, I've been doing this a long time. And I've asked him, how long do you have to watch a draft pick before you're like,
Starting point is 00:19:44 dude can't play? And they're like, it's a couple practices. You can tell if a guy's a star first practice. You can tell if he's a bust by the third practice. And I'm not saying two is a bust. But the second thing is, general managers and head coaches do not want to invalidate their choices. So they tend to give their top draft picks much longer runway to succeed. Now, I do think Flores is an excellent coach and has the locker room.
Starting point is 00:20:12 But it does show you that when you look at Miami and Joy and I have both said this, if I said to you with any team in the league, oh, their defense is great. The coach is outstanding. I love their special teams. They didn't make the playoffs. You'd be like, oh, they got a quarterback issue. Yeah, that's what they appear to have in Miami. One more herd?
Starting point is 00:20:33 The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Nick right now joining us, brought to you by Mercedes-Benz the best or nothing. All right, I said top of the show is that, you know, Kyrie Irving, I don't think is committed totally to basketball and I don't think he's a great teammate. But the basketball culture has been like, all right, we'll still pay a bunch of money and you're the guy. And so I'm not shocked this has evaporated. I feel terrible for Kevin Durant, who's a remarkable talent.
Starting point is 00:21:04 But your thoughts on what's happening in Brooklyn with Kyrie Irving. Yeah, I don't know why everyone's walking on egg shells. I get why Steve Nash is, because Nash might one day again have to work with him. But I don't understand why maybe the damn broke this morning, why so few in the media had been willing to say, what I think is pretty obvious. Listen, folks, I was 17 years old once, and I had a job at foot action, and I was supposed to go in,
Starting point is 00:21:34 and I didn't because I went to a girls' high school soccer game because I thought this girl would date me. I no-showed, no-called. They called me and fired me the next day. I made $8.25 an hour. Kyrie Irving makes $420,000 a game, and Steve Nash hadn't heard from it. The hell are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:21:53 Go to work. Listen, listen, I trust me if you are gravely haunted disappointed scared all of the above and more by the insurrection at the United States Capitol it you and me to you and me both man but you got to go to work and if you are doing something bigger than basketball you are undercutting it by showing up on the gram at your sister's 30th birthday maskless in a pandemic and 15 minutes before tip, you're on with the sex and the city lady at the Manhattan
Starting point is 00:22:29 District of turning race. What are we talking about? Yeah. Like, and one last thing, Durant now is going to play tonight. I don't know what the Nets medical plan was, but I don't think it was Durant to play back to backs and five games in
Starting point is 00:22:45 seven days before the Super Bowl. And now I feel like he has to because the Nets are not winning, I know they won last night, but they don't have the record they hope they had, Kyrie's not there. Yeah. So again, go to work or at least call your boss and say why you're not coming to work.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I think that's pretty basic. You know, I didn't like Kevin Durant leaving the Warriors. I'm not jumping on the pile here. I said it a dozen times over the last year. Is if Patrick Mahomes would have said I want out of here, there are literally several layers of protection. People would say, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Kevin Durant, did anybody go to Kevin Durant? Did anybody go to Kevin Durant? Steph Curry may have limitations defensively. He may be the most selfless teammate, certainly more selfless than a Michael Jordan or other stars. I mean, I look at Kevin Durant leaving and I'm like, Nick, was this an all-time bad decision? Well, I think we got to see.
Starting point is 00:23:45 If he wins a title with the Nets, then no. Then it is the ultimate crowning achievement of his career. If they get bounced in round two and trade Kyrie, And what I'm hearing is they are willing to trade anything and everything, including Kyrie, aside from Durant, of course, to get hardened. And now I think that would be pretty dynamic, potentially. It also would be pretty explosive. And I do wonder if the new owner of the next, Josai,
Starting point is 00:24:13 wants to risk repeating the same history Mikhail Prokerov went through. Mikhail Prokerov, right when he got there, now again, very different trade because of the age of players, but traded everything. had for KG and Pierce. They won one playoff series with them, and then they were stripped naked for five years, essentially, draft pick-wise.
Starting point is 00:24:32 You would be giving away all of your ability to improve the team moving forward to try to win a title right now. I get why KD did what he did. I understand Colin why he wanted to win a title outside of Golden State. I don't
Starting point is 00:24:48 understand why of all the guys he could have attached himself to, he picked Kyrie. He could have he could have gone with Kauai. Yeah. And then your clippers pick wouldn't have looked so foolish. He could have gone with Kauai with the clippers. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:25:01 And then that's a real championship contender. I don't get it. I don't get it. Now, you have defended James Harden, but I think you've come around to my side a little in that. I do think Houston built a really nice roster. Let's take the owner out of it. I think Mike Dan Tony's good for guards.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I think Chris Paul, Dwight Howard eight years ago, Clint Capella, P.J. Tucker. And it's always somebody else's fault. And now Hardens like I did everything I did. I love the city. Fine. But doesn't Hardin? Isn't he culpable for some of this?
Starting point is 00:25:31 It seems like Nick, they've bent over backwards for him for six years, seven years. And if he simply wanted a fresh start, it's like, man, my GM's gone. It's a new coach. I wish he would have given Stephen Silas a chance. It's a new coach. You know, ownership has changed since I've been here. And that owner, I understand why a lot of people would have issues with. him. That would be fine with me. There's a better way to go about it. James Harden, the first three
Starting point is 00:25:59 games of the year, reminded everyone he's still one of the best players in the league, averaging 37 and 10, then he took a night off, and then literally he took a night off, he was off, and the last five games, he's figuratively taken a night off. He's at 20 points or less in four consecutive games. That hasn't happened since he was in Oklahoma City, and he's clearly, visibly, obviously out of shape. Yeah. So you got one of two options. if you're a hardened. Like you're a hardened defender.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Either he this quickly went past his prime and he's no longer a top, forget five, top 15 player in the league, or he's mailing it in. Or he is actively not giving his best effort. I don't know what is the better option. I know what option I believe. I think it's the second option.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And again, I don't think it's a way to conduct yourself. Like Anthony Davis demanded out of New Orleans after they had failed him for the better part of a decade. But when he played, he played his hardest. Yeah. No one that's watched hard and thinks he's playing his hardest right now. Yeah. Nick Wright joining us.
Starting point is 00:27:00 So you need to be totally honest with me here. Cleveland Browns, best offensive line in football, getting no respect, being dissed by Sammy Watkins. Kansas City is rusty and musty. You're a little bit concerned this weekend with Baker and the Browns coming to town. A little concerned about how you played in December. Little? Well, I'd have to check the calendar, but I know that we went to New Orleans and two Tampa near the end of the year and we had double-digit leads in the fourth quarter of both those games. I know that, you know, until the Steelers started losing games, the Chiefs were playing
Starting point is 00:27:39 essentially perfect football, I know that you said Green Bay outside of one half had a flawless season, which I found very interesting because I looked and checked when you said it. It was like, oh, they were 13 and 3. So what were those crappy Chiefs? I was like, oh, they were 14 and 1 when Mahomes played. So what's that? season. Colin, don't do this, man. Don't. I've been the biggest Baker and the Brown supporter. They are going to get annihilated on Sunday in Arrowhead. Don't hit your wagon to them going to Arrowhead against a rested, healthy Chiefs team. Don't do that. You're going to regret it. Just like, and oh my goodness, I know they won, but Joy Taylor, you wouldn't have lost the bet,
Starting point is 00:28:20 but you might not have survived the game because of a heart condition. When Josh Allen fumbled. You know. That's what I was waiting for. All game long. He fumbles. It's right there. And then they pick it up. I still can't get over it. You'd have figuratively had to be covered in ketchup and mustard. Joy Taylor really did save you there, Colin.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Even though the bet was rescinded. Well, I will say this, though. The playoffs aren't the same. I mean, Kansas City trailed a bunch. When you watch Buffalo's ability to lose at the line of scrimmage for three and a half hours and win over probably the best
Starting point is 00:28:55 seventh seed we'll ever see in the playoffs. Little concern that Buffalo is going to win another playoff game and you're going to have a mustard bath. Oh, I'm rooting for him. I'm rooting for him. Listen, I'm in a weird spot because I'm rooting for them, but that would then make me lose the bet and I have to get covered in ketchup and mustard. I understand that. But I can recover from that.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I really, really want the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. I think Buffalo is a far easier opponent for the Chiefs Baltimore. Baltimore scares me. And Baltimore, if they beat Buffalo and they're hot and they got two playoff wins, they came back from 10 down on Tennessee and then beat Josh Allen them, that's a scary team. The Chiefs will annihilate Buffalo and Arrowhead the way they
Starting point is 00:29:37 annihilated them in Buffalo. I'm not worried about that. But I am, yeah, I am a little concerned that the ketchup and mustard could be coming my way. Joy didn't save me the way she saved you. Shows where loyalties lie. And so, yeah, but I'm not worried about the bills beating the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:29:53 They could beat Baltimore. I don't think they will beat the Chiefs. Come on, man. Come on, Colin. Don't do this. This is Nick right. Now, that might be me. That might be me. So tragic. That's true. It's tragic if it happened to me. It's not really. With Nick, it's It was going to be tragic. It's just bad judgment. It's tragic if it happens to me.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I may or may not have heard from the executives a good old thank you for saving you from that. May or may not. Nick Wright. I feel like I should get a race. See you guys. See you later. All right. And you do deserve a race. to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. So there's seven job openings in the NFL. Philadelphia, Chargers, Jets, Jets, Houston, Lions, Atlanta. And there's about 15, this morning
Starting point is 00:30:41 we got to about 13, 14, 15 candidates. I won't waste your time with all of them, but there's some good, some not as good. And I thought, you know, let's play. I'm not making a prediction here. I'm not being an NFL insider here. I'm just telling you, what do I think fits the best. The city, the owner, the coach, his strengths, his liabilities. Again, this is not a prediction. This is Collins coaching carousel. These are the guys that I think fit the current NFL openings. Now, this is not college football where there's 160 Division I jobs or 130. There's 32 of these babies and they're all good. If you get the right quarterback, they're all great lifetime. The NFL pension for coaches is amazing. It pays great.
Starting point is 00:31:25 You're getting coaches now making 9, 10, $12 million a year in the NFL. Urban Meyer reportedly could make 12. Joy, here we go. All right, let's start with the Los Angeles Chargers. All right, I think it's the best job. So let's go get the best candidate, Brian Daibol. He's the Buffalo Bill's offensive coordinator. Here's why it works. He worked under Sabin.
Starting point is 00:31:44 He worked under Belichick. He's had hard driving people above him. We know he can play well with others. He was successful at both. The other thing is we've seen the development of Josh Allen. Well, Justin Herbert doesn't need the development. So he's inheriting a guy that looks like Josh Allen without his coaching. So to what level can they take that?
Starting point is 00:32:04 He also went to the same high school as the Chargers General Manager Tom Telesco. So they know each other. Anthony Linolko also came from Buffalo. So these organizations work well together. Brian Daybell Chargers, to me, is the fit. All right, the Jacksonville Jaguars. I would say Urban Meyer, they need a shot of relevance. and he's it. Listen, it's an apathetic market. It's a college market, and he's a college icon.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Cap space, draft picks, they don't have a general manager, and he's going to want some say in personnel. He probably needs somebody to know the cap, not the players. He has a house in Florida. He previously called Trevor Lawrence the best college quarterback he's ever seen, and this feels like a fit to me. He's going to have the power. He wants power. He is a culture changer. This franchise needs a cultural change, not just a play caller. Urban Myers the best fit. The New York Jets. Despite my staff's misgiving, Jason Garrett, a very highly functional man, a little boring,
Starting point is 00:33:09 but a highly functional man in a highly dysfunctional organization. He went to Princeton, Columbia. He grew up in New Jersey. He just spent the year in New York. He gets the media. He's got an Eli Manning, Derek Jeter, Quartz. quality. He talks but says nothing. That's true. So he never creates fires. He just puts them out. The Cowboys had the number six scoring offense when he was there. He had a winning record,
Starting point is 00:33:35 but what I really like about it, he is a teacher. He is not a hype master. He's the opposite of Rex Ryan, who burned really hot in New York for about three years and then was sort of an eye roll. He's a grown man, Ivy League educated, played in the league, and whether they stay with Sam Donald or go to Justin Fields, both have consistency issues. I think he can shore that up Jason Garrett Jets. Atlanta Falcons. To meet Arthur Smith works. First of all, he has a house in Nashville, Southern guy, his dad, of course, the founder
Starting point is 00:34:08 of FedEx in Memphis, knows the South. The Falcons are the team in the South. And by the way, Matt Ryan's there for the next two, three years anyway. So this is a guy that makes quarterbacks better. Look what he did with Ryan Tannihill. The other thing is he runs a similar offense to Kyle, Manahan, Matt Ryan knows the offense and flourished under the offense. I think he wants to stay that side of the Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I think he has family there. In fact, I kind of know somebody in his family. I think this is a perfect fit. And by the way, it's nothing against Rahim Morris. But can we give Matt Ryan an offensive head coach for a change? He's had a couple. He's had Dan Quinn. He's had Mike Smith.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I think it's time to give Matt Ryan, who you're going to be stuck with for a couple years. And there's worse guys to be stuck with. Right. But I think he deserves an offensive head. coach. The Detroit Lions. I'm going to go with Robert Saul. I don't think it's a great job. He has a history in Michigan. First of all, their defense is terrible. And so they hire a defensive guy who knows defensive personnel. He is a motivator. I think he has a chance to be a
Starting point is 00:35:08 culture changer. He's a big personality, good-looking big energy guy. This is not an organization that just needs a play caller. They need somebody to shake stuff up, walk into a room. He's a man's man, very alpha. And the Lions, he began his coached. career in Michigan, so he's got history there. He's close friends with Matt LaFleur, the Packers head coach, so I'm sure they've been talking for years about the division. It feels like a good fit. It's not a great job, but it feels like a good fit. Houston Texans. Eric Bienemy seems obvious. First, Deshaun Wantson Watson. He wants him. Secondly, this is an organization where he's apparently not going to have, the coach is not going to have a ton of power, but what you're looking for
Starting point is 00:35:50 is a bit of a play caller. I don't need a GM here. That's not what BNME does. He dials up plays. And when Deshawn Watson, I think offensively, the Houston Texans led the NFL in yards per play. They've got a Kansas City field to them. They've got a star quarterback.
Starting point is 00:36:05 They have good offensive line, at least on the left side. And the feeling is you're not going to have power there as a coach. But can you have a working relationship with your star player and elevate him? And I think he can't. Remember, you just brought up. Patriots guy down, so you're not going to have say in personnel. That's not, and by the way, Bienemy doesn't want that. B'Enemy also worked with Patrick Mahomes, a young quarterback who likes to play sometimes
Starting point is 00:36:32 off script, and Bienemy's a former player who can handle the ego of a player, handle the independence of a star quarterback, I think he works. Finally, the Philadelphia Eagles. I'm going to go with a wild card. I'm going to say 31-year-old Joe Brayney. Now he feels young, but so did Sean McVeigh. Here's what I would say. You're going to get no personnel say here.
Starting point is 00:36:55 True. Joe Brady's fine with that. Urban wouldn't be. Doug Peterson wasn't. There's a lot of coaches that want personnel say. You're not going to get it in Philly. And this is what Joe Brady is. By the way, Sean McVey, we never hear about him wanting personnel say with less need.
Starting point is 00:37:14 He's a coach. Brady's a coach. The other thing is they're really bad at wide receiver and they have a quarter. quarterback controversy. His strength is quarterback wide receiver symmetry. That's what he does well. Right now, the Eagles need to draft quarterbacks wide receivers better. They were last in the NFL, lowest graded wide receiver group. And I know people freak out he's young, but Joe Judge is pretty young and Sean McVeigh is pretty young. Lincoln Riley's up for jobs. He's really young. Remember, we always say this. My son's much smarter than I was at 14.
Starting point is 00:37:48 31 is kind of the new 39 or 41 and I think he works He doesn't bring the ego and the cachet of other coaches And I think right now that team Just need somebody that can fix the offensive side of the ball
Starting point is 00:38:02 Because they got two stars on defense They got to fix the quarterback, fix the receivers So there he go Those are my NFL fit These are not predictions by the way I'm just playing matchmaker It's really strong
Starting point is 00:38:14 You might have a future in that Not terrible I think that was pretty good, to be honest. Philadelphia is the wild card. I just thought to myself... Well, no, it makes sense because he is young. You're not going to come in with the same cachet as a coach who has either been a head coach before
Starting point is 00:38:31 or has been working through the coaching ranks for a very long time to get this opportunity and wants more say. It makes sense because you're right. You're not going to get any control there. No. So you have to be completely cool with it. And the coolest guys, young people getting an opportunity, Sean McVeigh,
Starting point is 00:38:46 Sean McVeyas never once pushback on personnel. We've never even heard that story. Sean wants to coach. He wins a Super Bowl. Maybe he wants more say, but he hasn't gotten there yet. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:39:31 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clever Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.
Starting point is 00:40:17 So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right what you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to? to do a little kill. Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but yeah, yeah, literally.
Starting point is 00:41:07 But just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS. on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year
Starting point is 00:41:21 for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking. Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase
Starting point is 00:41:54 that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross. Because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Kear Gaines, is we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free, our Heart Radio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now.
Starting point is 00:42:34 James Hardin, situation's interesting. I've always, I didn't like Hardin when he came in the league initially. I think he's kind of a one-trick pony. I do think he moved his game a little to try to be a little better defensive player. But it is remarkable. Last night, he's gone for about five, six games. He's not in shape. He's dogging it.
Starting point is 00:42:55 He's not putting up the numbers. And last night, it came to an end after their blowout loss to the Lakers. He finally admitted, I'm out of here. Which is not good enough. You know, we just, we don't, obviously, chemistry, talent-wise. It's just everything. And it was clear. Like I said, these last few games, I love this city.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I literally, you know, I've done everything that I can. You know, I mean, this situation is crazy. You know, it's something that I don't think can be fixed. So, yeah, thanks. Okay, this is not in Houston a Deshawn Watson situation where you've got like this weird cult-like sensibility. they've made really bad trades. The roster is uneven. You let go of a star. No, no, no, no. That's not the Rockets. The Rockets had the 65 wins and 17 losses just three years ago. Their roster was stacked.
Starting point is 00:44:00 James Harden, Chris Paul, Clint Capella, PJ Tucker, Trevor Arisa, Eric Gordon, Gerald Green, with a guard-friendly head coach. James Harden had a perfect. NBA coach and back court for him. Chris Paul's the guy that wants to defend. Clint Capella wants to defend. Trevor Arezzo wants to defend. P.J. Tucker wants to defend. Eric Gordon will defend. You didn't even have to defend much. This is not Deshawn Watson. DeShon Watson's unhappy because weird stuff is going on. They built him the palace to win. And he can't work with anybody. Nobody's ever called him out. Like, I'll say it again. James wants a title, but doesn't want to put the work in for the title. Whenever you win in the NBA, you got to sacrifice something.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Kevin Durant goes to the Warriors, you sacrifice shots. LeBron goes to Miami. It's his city, not really yours. You got to sacrifice something. James, what are you giving up? Because you want a title, what are you giving up? because LeBron has had to give things up. He gave up money in Miami.
Starting point is 00:45:16 He went to, by the way, he gave up a roster and went to a free agent deathbed in Cleveland, then a dysfunctional Laker franchise. You think LeBron's going to the best place. No, he's not. LeBron's got Miami was good. Okay, I'll give you that. But Cleveland and the Lakers, LeBron sacrificed things. He didn't go to the best roster in L.A.
Starting point is 00:45:38 He didn't go to the best roster in Cleveland. So what are you willing to give up, James? Because I've seen Steph Curry sacrifice shots and money. I've seen Kevin Durant sacrifice money. I've seen LeBron sacrifice money and functional franchises. They did everything for him. Everything for him. They built the palace.
Starting point is 00:45:58 And he's not willing to give up the ball or give up the attitude. This is on James, not everybody else. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?
Starting point is 00:46:26 We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not. not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at a podcast.
Starting point is 00:47:09 That was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year.
Starting point is 00:47:25 I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
Starting point is 00:47:53 This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford, and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. This is an IHeart podcast, guaranteed human.

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