The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 01/13/2021 - HOUR 1 - Kyrie, Eagles, Dolphins, Meyer
Episode Date: January 13, 2021Kyrie Irving is simply a bad teammateEagles are rumored to want Lincoln Riley as their next Head Coach.There is a Dolphins QB controversyUrban Meyer is close to signing with the JaguarsGuest: Nick Wri...ght Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The basketball culture in America is different than the football culture.
There are things I like about the basketball culture.
And there are things I like about the football culture.
I think I was raised more.
My parents were more football culture than basketball culture.
I did not get my way all the time.
So the Kyrie Irving situation now is a full-blown
mess in Brooklyn. I never thought it would work, but this is not about me being right or wrong.
He's not shown up for multiple games. He won't be here for the rest of the week.
What it really fascinates me is notice Steve Nash, the coach, walking on eggshells.
Notice the media walking on eggshells. The Brooklyn general manager, the commissioner,
walking on eggshells. There's videos, massless, Kyrie. Last night on a
political call. I don't like what happened in the capital either. We all got to go to work.
Walking on eggshells. That, of course, is the basketball culture. Shoe companies,
AAU coaches, the commissioner, coddling, worshipping basketball stars. So, of course, they think they can
just take time off and be bad teammates. Maybe we should stop babysitting narcissistic behavior.
James Harden, pointing fingers. Excuse me, Houston did a marvelous job to build a
roster around you. Three years ago, I thought it was the second best roster in the league. P.J. Tucker
and Chris Ball and James Hardin and Clint Capella and they had a basketball coach built for you and a
GM that was like an Ivy League guy. And James Hardin couldn't make any of it work. He didn't want to
play defense. He wouldn't change his style. And nobody ever said anything because, ooh, he's a basketball
star. In the NFL, it's different. Antonio Brown was a bad teammate. He got
destroyed by the NFL media.
Look at how the Kyrie Irving situation is being handled.
Everybody's afraid to call him out.
Folks, he's a bad teammate.
What example do you need beyond Boston?
Where the stories are legendary.
I made one call last night for three minutes.
Was told the stories in Boston are outrageous,
but they don't want to make them public because then players won't want to come to Boston.
I've been watching the NBA for 40 years.
Boston always gets players.
Every decade they win a title, it feels like.
And then Kevin Durant, by the way,
now he has a teammate that's bailed on him,
which is just unfortunate because Kevin's a remarkable talent.
But when Kevin left the Warriors, I said it at the time,
would somebody stop him, please?
Would somebody shake Kevin Durant?
You're leaving Steph Curry,
one of the most selfless superstars I've ever seen,
to Kyrie Irving, who's a bad teammate.
Did anybody tell Kevin, Kevin, shoe company, agent, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
That would be like Patrick Mahalm saying, I want to go play for the Jags.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that.
People would step in.
The commissioner would call him.
Andy Reid would call him, coaches would call him, as Asia would call him, shoe companies would call him.
No, no, no, no, don't do that.
But everybody coddled, Katie.
The commissioner coddles the stars, the general managers, the coaches coddle the stars.
NBA media is charm and soft.
This is the basketball culture.
So of course, Kyrie thinks I can just be a bad teammate and not show up.
You don't do that in the NFL.
There was an understanding you are going into battle.
And Patrick Mahomes not only loves his teammates,
he buys those offensive linemen riding lawnmowers and golf bags and Rolex watches
and steak dinners because we're all in it together.
And that's the culture of football in America.
I need you and you need me.
And the NBA culture for stars is, I don't need anybody.
It's fostered from AAU on.
Shoe companies, basketball coaches.
I mean, look at how Kyrie's situation.
Nobody will say a word.
We're all petrified to alienate the star player.
Kevin Durant should still be in Golden State with Steph and Draymond and this terrific young talent, James Wiseman, and Clay would be back in a year.
The Ubre now is emerging, and Steve Kerr and Bob Myers, it's a wonderful basketball organization, and he left it, and nobody said, what are you doing?
Can you imagine Josh Allen wanting to leave Buffalo?
Can you imagine Patrick Mahomes saying, I'm out of here?
There would be several obstacles.
There would be a CBA that wouldn't allow it to happen.
There would be people that would say, no, no, no, Patrick, don't implode your career.
But people are petrified.
This Houston situation, they gave him everything.
Good God.
I was looking the other day.
I have it in my note somewhere.
Yeah, here was the roster three years ago in Houston.
And by the way, they couldn't make it work.
They had James Harden, Chris Paul, Clint Capella, Trevor Arisa, P.J. Tucker, Eric Gordon, Gerald, Gerald, and a guard-friendly coach. They went and got him Dwight Howard, CP3, Westbrook, Wall. It doesn't work because of Hardin. It's not anybody. They had the GM. They had the coach. They had the roster. They had the forwards. They had the tough guys. They had the veteran, Chris Paul. Hardin didn't make it work. Nobody wants to say it. Nobody wants to call anybody out. But this is what you get. Listen, Shaq
once chose KD or Shaq once chose D Wade over Kobe.
Right.
And I didn't love that.
But it was D. Wade, committed to basketball.
And it was Pat Riley.
And it was the Miami Heat who had a history winning title.
So I was like, don't love it.
But it is.
The idea that KD chose, Kyrie over Steph, inexplicable.
Nobody stopped him.
Nobody called him out.
And this morning, it's just a mess for everybody.
It's too bad.
Well, this is an interesting story.
Lincoln Riley is a football coach at Oklahoma.
And so far as I can tell, he is totally committed to Oklahoma.
But if he said tomorrow, I want to be an NFL coach, he'd be the golden goose.
Everybody in the league would want him, right?
You know, kind of the up-and-coming Urban Meyer, right?
Like he would be the guy.
He has not said that.
But according to now reports, Lincoln Riley is who the Philadelphia Eagles want.
And now suddenly, I would have thought this was a great job a year ago, great fit.
but now it's not.
Because now Doug Peterson is the third coach with a winning record to be fired after one bad year.
And now we're finding out stories that Howie Roseman is crazy power hungry as the general manager.
And this is a cautionary tale.
The answer for fans is always the same thing.
Every city, every team, every franchise.
Fire the coach.
Fire him.
Get rid of the coach.
Coach no good.
Fire him.
The problem is.
really good coaches have options and that creates an image of instability.
Don't give you an example.
Why is the Chargers the number one job right now?
Now think about this.
The Chargers is the job everybody wants.
Well, it's Justin Herbert.
Well, I mean, Jacksonville is going to get Trevor Lawrence.
That's not considered a number one job.
The reason it's a number one job.
And the Spanosas aren't considered the richest owners or the most free agent-friendly owners.
but it's considered a good job because they gave Anthony Lynn a job for four years.
He was a 500 coach, only went to the playoffs once with a very good roster.
And in fact, not only did he have a losing season this year,
Anthony Lynn was 5 and 11 last year with Philip Rivers and Pro Bowlers everywhere.
And yet they brought him back.
They brought him back.
They said he's young, he's growing, Phillips getting old.
And so the Chargers, despite an owner,
group some question, despite an apathetic fan base, despite a losing record,
it's viewed as a stable organization, and that is a job you would want.
Philadelphia is a Blue Blood franchise.
This morning, you got a power-hungry GM, an owner that admitted Monday,
this guy did not deserve to be fired, but we fired him.
It looks unstable.
It looks a little bit like a hot mess.
And so the answer should really, what you don't want to do is fire the coach.
The New York Giants have a history of being a Blue Blood franchise.
They gave Tom Coughlin bad year after bad year after bad year.
Now, that's not saying they hired the right coach after him, but it did make the Giants look redeemable.
and grown up.
The Chicago Bears this morning are retaining their general manager and their coach,
Ryan Pace and Matt Aggie.
Whether you like them or not, the message, the vibe,
and all businesses send a vibe out, a signal out, and a message out to the marketplace.
The message it sends out to the Bears is, okay, ownership.
I mean, the Bears, Joy and I would tell you, the Bears defense is good.
The roster's not bad at all.
if they had Tariq Cohen who got hurt,
the offense would be better.
I think they kind of whiffed on the Trabiski thing,
but everybody has a right to whiff on somebody, right?
Belichick's whiff, I don't know,
100 times on wide receivers.
But the messaging by the Bears this morning is stable, patient,
another year, we're close,
we're going to get this right.
But everybody in Chicago wants to fire the GM and fire the coach.
And the GM, again, I thought whiffed on the quarterback.
But everybody sends Cigman.
And in the last couple of days, that Doug Peterson firing, and I got it.
The Jalen Hurst thing was bad.
But then the owner can't come out and say he didn't deserve to be fired, but I'm firing him.
And now I know the GM is crazy mad power hungry.
I don't think this is a good job.
If I'm Lincoln Riley, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to Philadelphia.
And I guess my point here is today, be very careful about always having this as an answer.
Fire our coach.
Philadelphia now has fired three coaches, all with winning records.
Two got to a Super Bowl.
One won a Super Bowl.
All because they had a bad year.
One bad year.
All right.
Here's a story that is, holy crow.
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Coaching Carousel, top of the next hour. I'll take the seven jobs.
About 13, 14 candidates. Many really good candidates this morning I suggested at a meeting
that Jason Garrett is an excellent candidate and was almost asked to leave the room.
this idea that Jason Garrett can't coach at all is beyond me.
I won several division titles.
But I want to go to this story.
The Miami Dolphins are promising to evaluate the entire team,
and some players have already evaluated Tua.
According to a report in Miami,
I'm going to read you this because I just got my hands on it.
Tua, according to the GM and coach,
with the starting quarterback next year,
that caught the attention of at least three players within the team,
because they have told the Herald, the Miami Herald in recent days,
they didn't see enough from Tua to promise him anything for next season.
The players who spoke to the Herald anonymously to not suffer consequences said they're
unimpressed with him.
They were totally caught off guard with the comments and the commitment when he was named
starter in the seventh game of the year.
Players said they were concerned, although he was humble and a great kid and a great
competitor, they were concerned in training.
camp, that he didn't have any special qualities and didn't think he would be ready for the year.
They also said they don't see special traits in him beyond his accuracy.
Oh my God, it's like we're watching the same games.
They got frustrated, said the players.
A defensive player said when Flores told the team Fitzpatrick would not be available for the season finale against Buffalo,
players got frustrated, clearly thinking he was the better player.
So this is what I, this was my concern.
The Friday before two has started, I said, I liked him in college, but I'm watching
Josh Allen and I'm watching Justin Herbert and I'm watching Burrow and I'm seeing
Lamar and the league is moving.
You've got to have some it here at that position beyond being accurate, which has never been
the issue.
And I didn't see it and I don't see it.
So my first takeaway with the story is, number one, you can't lie to players.
You can't fool players.
Like guys figure.
out, you know, you can go to two basketball practices in the NBA and guys know if it's a bad
draft pick or a good draft pick. You can't fool players. They know who can play. That doesn't mean
they should be general managers, but they understand who's got it and who doesn't. I've had
several players on this show through the, I've been doing this a long time. And I've asked him,
how long do you have to watch a draft pick before you're like, dude can't play? And they're like,
it's a couple practices. You can tell if a guy's a star first practice. You can tell if he's
a bus by the third practice. And I'm not saying two is a bus.
But the second thing is, general managers and head coaches do not want to invalidate their choices.
So they tend to give their top draft picks much longer runway to succeed.
Now, I do think Flores is an excellent coach and has the locker room.
But it does show you that when you look at Miami and Joy and I have both said this,
if I said to you with any team in the league, oh, their defense is great.
The coach is outstanding.
I love their special teams.
They didn't make the playoffs.
You'd be like, oh, they got a quarterback issue.
Yeah, that's what they appear to have in Miami.
Joy Taylor with the news.
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Another team that has a quarterback issue is the Houston Texans.
Oh, boy.
Reports of Deshaun Watson's unhappiness with the current state of the Texans organization
have been running wild over the last week.
And former Texan, Andre Johnson,
publicly sided with Watson.
He took a shot at team executive Jack Easterby.
He tweeted, if I'm Deshawn Watson, I will stand my ground.
The Texans organization is known for wasting players' careers.
Since Jack Easterby has walked into the building,
nothing good has happened in or for the organization.
And for some reason, someone can't seem to see what's going on.
Pathetic.
DeAndre Hopkins weighed in on the situation,
retweeting that since said, when Dre speak, listen.
So clearly there is some.
something very strange going on here.
Well, the first thing, the messenger matters here.
Andre Johnson, classy, quiet.
Doesn't get involved in stuff.
Team guy.
So, this is like Calvin Johnson saying something.
There are athletes that do not get involved in Twitter in these kind of discussions.
So when Andre Johnson talks, it's like Larry Fitzgerald.
Yeah, I mean, it's like DeAndre Hopkins said when Dre speaks, listen.
Yeah.
So the messenger matters a lot.
And if Andre Johnson says it, my gut feeling is he sees and feels the same thing we do about the Texans,
which is the Jack Easterby situation feels almost culty down there.
And that's the word getting used now.
If you don't know what's going on here, don't feel bad because none of us knew who Jack Easterby was before a couple weeks ago.
He was an intern in Jacksonville in 2004.
He was with the Chiefs in 2011 and 2012 in a character development role.
And then he went to the Patriots in 2013 as a character coach.
And then he turned into the title of team development director.
He was also a chaplain for the Patriots.
He was named the executive vice president of football operations in Houston in January of 2020
and serves as the team executive vice president of team development in 2019.
It's the strangest professional NFL ladder climbing.
ever seen, from Team Pastor to running a franchise. And I think a lot of players in Houston are saying,
that's not really where you get GMs. And this, he is now befriended the owner, Cal McNair. And McNair
trusts him. And the players, by the way, 80, 90% are out on it. And that's a problem.
There's a couple ways to reach people. You can reach them through fear. You can reach them
through romance or some sort of, you know,
physical attraction, physical intrigue.
Yeah.
And then you can touch and change people's hearts, right?
And that forms a very strong bond.
Yeah.
When you are in that sort of religious space where you're, you know,
changing people's lives.
Yeah.
Sometimes there tends to be a little bit of a, you know,
overattachment to everything else that you say and recommend.
Where you may be giving good spiritual advice.
Doesn't mean you give good football advice.
You may be giving good personal advice to get your life on track.
I don't know what that has to do with putting together a football organization and personnel.
This is a bad situation in Houston.
We're talking about Philadelphia not being a good coaching position.
This is a terrible coaching position.
I would rather have Philly.
At least in Philly, like they just won a Super Bowl.
They have some pieces in place.
Like, you know, Carson Went's going to be there because they just fired Doug Peterson.
You don't know what's going on in Houston.
What is this?
So we're going to walk around in cloaks now?
Like, what's happening?
It feels like Scientology and cleats.
It's so weird.
It's so culty.
It's very, very strange.
So the Seahawks have parted ways with offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer.
The team announced the decision yesterday citing philosophical differences,
which is a very classy way of saying,
we are not on the same page.
Schottenheimer spent the last three seasons running the offense in Seattle.
Seattle scored over 30 points in seven of their first eight games this season.
But they scored more than 30 just once the rest of the year, and that was against the Jets.
They really took a pretty quick dive this season.
Can I have one opinion here?
Yes.
Okay, so Pete Carroll wants to run the football.
Okay, then maybe don't make the offensive line the weakness of the franchise, number one.
And then number two, don't draft Rashad Penny in the first round, who's a bust when Nick Chubb's available.
Pete Carroll wants to run the football.
Your offensive line's a liability.
And you're running backs.
I like Chris Carson.
You know, when he's available.
But you're asking, this is not a situation like Cleveland where you're like, run the football.
It's the highest graded offensive line.
And you got Kareem Hunt and Nick Chubb.
You can do that.
Or Cowboys a few years ago, run the football.
Tyron Smith, you know, Travis Frederick.
Yeah, you have the best offensive line in football.
You have Ezekiel Elliott.
So if you want to run the football, draft better running backs.
You'll whiff on a first round pick like three years ago.
And puts together an offensive line.
Yeah.
Outside of the Wayne Brown left.
I do like, they got a rookie at an LSU, right guard,
Jamal, I'm forgetting his last name.
Damien Lewis, my bad.
I think he's got a lot of potential.
He's a big kid.
But I mean, again, the offensive line and the running backs are an issue,
rarely healthy, underachieve, but that's what Pete wants.
And I think Schottenheimer probably said, I think we should let,
this is a Russ offense.
Let's, let's, you know.
Well, to your point, like, it is a Russ.
Well, to Schottenheimer's point, I guess, if that's what he wanted,
it is Russ's offense.
but offenses need balance.
Like, yes, we know what Russ can do when things fall apart.
That's why we know he's spectacular.
That's why we know Deshawn Watson's spectacular,
because he makes something out of nothing.
But that is not a sustainable offense.
Like, if you want to do those things,
which Peach Carroll has literally said he wants to run the ball.
To your point, put the pieces in place so that you can do that.
Everybody wants to run the ball.
We know that.
So the Rams held a walk through Tuesday as they prepare for the Packers Saturday.
If there had been a full practice,
Jared Gough would have been able to participate.
But John Wolford would have been a,
held out. Sean McVeigh is still not giving any update on who the starter will be. And according to Fox bet,
the Packers will be seven point favorites over the Rams if golf starts. But if Wolford gets the nod,
the Packers will move to eight and a half point favorites. I like the Packers here. The other thing is
there's an Aaron Donald concern, cartilage rib issue, which I know a lot about, because this is now
what I have. I cracked a couple of ribs skiing and I have a cartilage rib issue. I'm 16 days past
it and it still hurts to move.
Now, Aaron Donald's much bigger,
more talented, and stronger than I am,
but it happened like two days ago.
So if that's the issue, here's another big issue.
Aaron Donald is the key
to disrupting Aaron Rogers' tempo.
If Aaron Donald is 60% or 50%,
I give the Rams no chance here.
None.
Well, I mean, even if he is,
he's not going to be 100%.
So we know that.
So you're not going to have him at 100%.
Even if Jared Goff is available,
he's not going to be at 100%.
You're getting Cooper Cupback, but they just feel
very banged up. They feel like they're kind of
sputtering to the end of the season
here. It's going to take the Packers
falling apart for the Rams to win this game.
That's right. That's right. Exactly. It's going to take
miscue. Green Bay is going to have to play poorly.
Yes. And they haven't done that
in three months. Even if
they play average, they will win this game. Yes, they will.
Joy with the news.
Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.
The Herd Line News.
To your point, Green Bay basically had a flawless season
except one bad two and a half hour spurt in Tampa.
That was it.
They were almost flawless all year.
They had a really bad windy day in Tampa.
That was it.
They had one bad, they didn't even play badly early.
It was like they had a bad stretch.
So I like Green Bay in that game.
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All right, I said top of the show is that, you know, Kyrie Irving, I don't think is committed
totally to basketball.
And I don't think he's a great teammate.
But the basketball culture has been like.
like, all right, we'll still pay a bunch of money and you're the guy. And so I'm not shocked
this has evaporated. I feel terrible for Kevin Durant, who's a remarkable talent, but your
thoughts on what's happening in Brooklyn with Kyrie Irving. Yeah, I don't know why everyone's
walking on eggshells. I get why Steve Nash is, because Nash might one day again have to work
with him, but I don't understand why may, and maybe the damn broke this morning, why so few
in the media had been willing to say what I think is pretty obvious. Listen,
folks. I was 17 years old once and I had a job at foot action and I was supposed to go in and I didn't
because I went to a girls high school soccer game because I thought this girl would date me.
I no show, no called me. They called me and fired me the next day. I made $8.25 an hour.
Kyrie Irving makes $420,000 a game and Steve Nash hadn't heard from it. The hell are we talking about.
Go to work. Listen, I trust me, if you are,
gravely haunted, disappointed, scared all of the above and more by the insurrection at the
United States Capitol, you and me too, you and me both, man, but you got to go to work.
And if you are doing something bigger than basketball, you are undercutting it by showing up
on the gram at your sister's 30th birthday, maskless in a pandemic, and 15 minutes before tip,
you're on with the sex and the city lady
at the Manhattan District Attorney
Race. What are we talking about?
Yeah. Like, and one last
thing, Durant
now is going to play tonight.
I don't know what the Nets medical plan
was, but I don't think it was
Durant to play back-to-backs
and five games in seven days
before the Super Bowl.
And now I feel like he has to
because the Nets are not winning,
I know they won last night, but they don't have the record
they hope they had. And Kyrie's not
So again, go to work or at least call your boss and say why you're not coming to work.
I think that's pretty basic.
You know, I didn't like Kevin Durant leaving the Warriors.
I'm not jumping on the pile here.
I said it a dozen times over the last year.
Is if Patrick Mahomes would have said I want out of here, there are literally several layers of protection.
People would say, no, no, no, no, no.
You're not going to do that.
Kevin Durant.
Did anybody go to Kevin Durant?
Steph Curry may have limitations defensively.
He may be the most selfless teammate,
certainly more selfless than a Michael Jordan or other stars.
I mean, I look at Kevin Durant leaving and I'm like,
Nick, was this an all-time bad decision?
Well, I think we got to see.
If he wins a title with the Nets, then no.
Then it is the ultimate crowning achievement of his career.
If they get bounced in round two and trade Kyrie.
and what I'm hearing is they are willing to trade anything and everything,
including Kyrie, aside from Durant, of course, to get hardened.
And now I think that would be pretty dynamic, potentially.
It also would be pretty explosive.
And I do wonder if the new owner of the next, Josai,
wants to risk repeating the same history Mikhail Prokerov went through.
Mikhail Prokerov, right when he got there,
now again, very different trade because of the age of players,
but traded everything they had for KG and Pierce.
They won one playoff series with them,
and then they were stripped naked for five years, essentially, draft pick-wise.
You would be giving away all of your ability to improve the team moving forward to try to win a title right now.
I get why KD did what he did.
I understand, Colin, why he wanted to win a title outside of Golden State.
I don't understand why, of all the guys he could have attached himself to,
he picked Kyrie. He could have gone with Kauai.
And then your clippers pick wouldn't have looked so foolish.
He could have gone with Kauai with the clippers.
And then that's a real championship contender.
I don't get it. I don't get it.
Now, you have defended James Harden, but I think you've come around to my side a little
in that. I do think Houston built a really nice roster.
Let's take the owner out of it. I think Mike Dan Tony is good for guards.
I think Chris Paul, Dwight Howard eight years ago, Clint Capella, P.J. Tucker.
And it's always somebody else's fault.
And now Hardens like I did everything I did.
I love the city.
Fine.
But doesn't Harden?
Isn't he culpable for some of this?
It seems like Nick, they've bent over backwards for him for six years, seven years.
And if he simply wanted a fresh start, it's like, man, my GM's gone.
It's a new coach.
I wish he would have given Stephen Silas a chance.
It's a new coach.
You know, ownership has changed since I've been here.
and that owner, I understand why a lot of people would have issues with him.
That would be fine with me.
There's a better way to go about it.
James Harden, the first three games of the year, reminded everyone he's still one of the
best players in the league, averaging 37 and 10.
Then he took a night off, and then literally he took a night off.
He was off.
And the last five games, he's figuratively taken a night off.
He's at 20 points or less in four consecutive games.
That hasn't happened since he was in Oklahoma City.
And he's clearly, visibly, obviously out of shape.
So you got one of two options if you're a hardened.
Like you're a hardened defender.
Either he this quickly went past his prime and he's no longer a top, forget five, top 15 player in the league,
or he's mailing it in.
Or he is actively not giving his best effort.
I don't know what is the better option.
I know what option I believe.
I think it's the second option.
And again, I don't think it's a way to conduct yourself.
Like Anthony Davis demanded out of New Orleans after they had failed him for the better part of a decade,
But when he played, he played his hardest.
Yeah.
No one that's watched Harden thinks he's playing his hardest right now.
Yeah.
Nick Wright, joining us.
So you need to be totally honest with me here.
Cleveland Browns, best offensive line in football, getting no respect, being dissed by
Sammy Watkins.
Kansas City is rusty and musty.
You're a little bit concerned this weekend with Baker and the Browns coming to town.
a little concerned about how you played in December. Little?
Well, I'd have to check the calendar, but I know that we went to New Orleans and two Tampa
near the end of the year and we had double-digit leads in the fourth quarter of both those games.
I know that, you know, until the Steelers started losing games, the Chiefs were playing
essentially perfect football, I know that you said Green Bay outside of one half had a flawless
season, which I found very interesting because I looked and checked when you said it.
It was like, oh, they were 13 and 3. So what were those crappy chiefs?
I was like, oh, they were 14 and 1 when Mahomes played.
So what's that season?
Colin, don't do this, man.
Don't.
I have been the biggest baker and the brown supporter.
They are going to get annihilated on Sunday in Arrowhead.
Don't hit your wagon to them going to Arrowhead against a rested, healthy Chiefs team.
Don't do that.
You're going to regret it.
Just like, and oh, my goodness, I know they won.
But Joy Taylor, you wouldn't have lost the bet, but you might not have survived
to the game because of a heart condition.
When Josh Allen fumbled, you know.
That's what I was waiting for.
All game long, he fumbles.
It's right there.
And then they pick it up.
I still can't get over it.
You'd have figuratively had to be covered in ketchup and mustard.
Joy Taylor really did save you there, Colin.
Even though the bet was recent.
Well, I will say this, though.
The playoffs aren't the same.
I mean, Kansas City trailed a bunch.
When you watch Buffalo's ability to lose at the line of scrimmage
for three and a half hours and win over probably the best seven seed we'll ever see in the
playoffs, little concern that Buffalo is going to win another playoff game and you're going to
have a mustard bath little.
Oh, I'm rooting for him.
I'm rooting for him.
Listen, I'm in a weird spot because I'm rooting for them, but that would then make me lose
the bet and I have to get covered in ketchup and mustard.
I understand that.
But I can recover from that.
I really, really want the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl.
I think Buffalo is a far easier opponent for the Chiefs than Baltimore.
Baltimore scares me.
And Baltimore, if they beat Buffalo and they're hot and they got two playoff wins,
they came back from 10 down on Tennessee and then beat Josh Allen.
That's a scary team.
The Chiefs will annihilate Buffalo and Arrowhead the way they annihilated them in Buffalo.
I'm not worried about that.
But I am, yeah, I am a little concerned that the ketchup and mustard could be coming my way.
Joy didn't save me the way she saved you.
Shows where her loyalties lie.
And so, yeah, but I'm not worried about it.
the bills beating the chiefs.
They could beat Baltimore.
I don't think they will.
Beat the Chiefs. Come on, man.
Come on, Colin.
Don't do this.
This is Nick Wright.
Now, that might be me.
That might be me.
So tragic.
It's true.
It's tragic if it happened to me.
It's not really.
With Nick, it's just bad judgment.
It's tragic if it happens to me.
I may or may not have heard from the executives a good old thank you for saving you from that.
May or may not.
Nick Wright, I feel like I should get a race.
See you guys.
See you later.
All right.
And you do deserve a race.
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The Urban Meyer rumors to Jacksonville are fast and they are furious.
I was told this weekend.
This is what I was told that Urban Meyer to Jacksonville was happening.
It was close to done.
I was told this weekend he has spent the last 10 days.
14 days, assembling a staff. That's what I'm told. His concerns are about health. That has always been the issue.
And I can say this. I have multiple times in my career, I have moved cross country for jobs.
And I think about it for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks. And it always comes down to a moment.
Every single time. It comes down to a phone call or a moment. So Urban could be in that phone call moment situation.
that is go either way, at least in my, the idea that, you know, like LeBron going to the Miami heat,
LeBron admits now, it's like everybody around him admits he thought about it for months,
but it came down to a moment or a conversation.
And so I think Urban's in that space.
I think he's going to take the job.
Now, there's a lot of things I like about the job.
There's a ton of cap space.
He's got the number one pick.
It's generally a winnable division.
He's going to have some control over personnel, although probably not all.
And it's not a local, vicious, powerful media.
You know, like talk radio is driving GMs and owners mad.
You can have a lot of control.
It's a college football market, and he is absolutely beloved in that city.
Jacksonville is Florida Gator Territory, and he won national titles there.
So it makes a lot of sense.
And I also think what's happened, and he's had a lot of, it's going to come down to this.
In college football, you have to answer to a lot of people.
You've got to answer to the chancellors and your school president and some needy boosters and the NCAA.
And in the NFL, you've got to answer to one guy, the owner.
If you're a powerful coach and reportedly, Urban's going to make $10, $12 million a year.
He's going to have a lot more power than the general manager there, okay?
So he's going to have to answer to Shod Khan.
And if that works, if that relationship's good, then it's fine.
I would rather deal with one really powerful person than the constant.
web of neediness at college, where it's just boosters and this car dealer and this web designer
and the NCAA and your PAC 12 or Big 12 commissioner.
And then you've got the TV networks leaning on you to move your games tonight.
So it's like, yeah, yeah.
The other thing, though, that's real here is that when we mention the great football coaches
of all time, we don't mention bare brown.
or Woody Hayes.
And we don't mention Nick Saban.
We mention Belichick and Don Shula and Bill Walsh and Mike Shanahan.
Because it's harder to win in the NFL.
In the NFL, the better you are, the worst draft picks you get.
The better you are, the tougher your schedule is the next year.
College football, there is a system that's almost rigged.
But once you figure out the Rubik's cube of it,
You can dominate your schedule, put a bunch of Mercer's and Panera bread and roast beef tech on your schedule, put the buys wherever you want.
And if you win one or two games a year at one of these traditional powers like Ohio State and Oklahoma and Alabama and Georgia, you can pretty much run 10-11 wins every single year.
You've got bigger budgets.
You've got geographical advantages.
You've got booster advantages and budget advantages.
And so we don't consider.
we don't consider college football legends.
Barry Switzer was kind of an NFL eye roll, right?
Jimmy Johnson won at college.
But what made Jimmy a legend is the Dallas Cowboys.
And Urban Meyer can kind of separate from all the other college football legends by going to Jacksonville.
And I do think for his personality, it's a great fit.
He's got a home there.
Okay, he's beloved there.
The salary he's getting, he's going to have a lot of power and say in personnel.
It's not a market.
It's going to be a media that's more fawning than feisty.
He's going to get Trevor Lawrence.
It's also kind of a weird division where every year it's sort of up for grabs.
There's no Patrick Mahomes here.
There's no Belichick here.
You know, I mean, I like Tennessee, but they're going to lose their offensive coordinator now.
Montana Hill can win the division.
It's just this division is always up.
There's a lot of dysfunction in this division.
Okay.
And so it's not the NFC West where you got Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson and Sean
McVey and Kyle Shanahan.
You don't deal with six games like that every year.
So I think it's going to happen.
I do think he's in that really short window where he's going to sit and talk it over with
his family and they'll make the call.
He'll make the call.
I hope he takes it.
I do.
I think he makes it more interesting.
And I think there's a handful of NFL franchises.
Not many.
Jacksonville's one that needs a shot of interesting.
They need a B-12 shot of interesting.
And I think Trevor Lawrence and Urban Meyer are just what the doctor ordered.
All right.
I'm so excited for this.
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